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CIA-53 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * rbd66779 / (4 files): Macro test maintenance, up through Page.t - http://bit.ly/1zdQ0v | 00:52 |
CIA-53 | webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.7 * r1c536f9 / lib/WebGUI/Operation/Group.pm : Fix syntax errors in Operation/Group - http://bit.ly/4AEFzQ | 00:52 |
CIA-53 | webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.7 * r933598b / (4 files): Macro test maintenance, up through Page.t - http://bit.ly/3WjRFV | 00:52 |
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CIA-53 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r7154833 / (11 files): Done with Macro test maintenance. - http://bit.ly/2L75aD | 04:01 |
CIA-53 | webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.7 * r8ba01ef / (10 files): Done with Macro test maintenance. - http://bit.ly/47LN20 | 04:02 |
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+perlDreamer | Happy Halloween, fellow Gooey-ians! | 04:06 |
+perlDreamer | Gooeyites? | 04:06 |
+perlDreamer | hm | 04:06 |
topsub | Hey, | 05:05 |
topsub | I'm getting http://webgui.pastebin.com/m20b4a95 after i restarted my server and tried to boot everything | 05:05 |
topsub | Any idea? | 05:05 |
+perlDreamer | Don't restart your server? | 05:05 |
topsub | doh! | 05:05 |
+perlDreamer | you need to specify a pid file | 05:05 |
+perlDreamer | in spectre.conf | 05:05 |
+perlDreamer | so that spectre knows where to write the PID file | 05:06 |
topsub | but i guess i never had to do that before, why is it showing up now? | 05:06 |
+perlDreamer | because it's new :P | 05:06 |
topsub | what is a pid? | 05:06 |
+perlDreamer | Process ID | 05:06 |
+perlDreamer | kind of like httpd.pid | 05:06 |
+perlDreamer | mysql.pid | 05:06 |
topsub | do i need to just create a blank file and point it to it? | 05:06 |
+perlDreamer | spectre now uses a PID file for starting and stopping | 05:06 |
+perlDreamer | no, in spectre.conf, you need to tell spectre where to write the PID file that it wants to use | 05:07 |
topsub | do we have docs about this so i can catch up on this? haha | 05:07 |
+perlDreamer | it's in the gotcha.txt file | 05:07 |
topsub | I never upgraded | 05:07 |
topsub | ah. i didn't change my file system back | 05:07 |
topsub | must have tried to started changing the files | 05:07 |
topsub | remember it keep crashing so i left it for now | 05:07 |
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CIA-53 | webgui: khenn master * r3958a36 / (4 files in 4 dirs): bug fixes: start date is returned in UTC instead of the proper time zone, meta data fields are not properly returned to the template - http://bit.ly/3SFOXK | 16:46 |
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luke | hi. what's the best way to upgrade (source install) from 7.6.35 to the latest 7.7? can i do it directly? | 11:48 |
+BartJol | I would read the gotchas first | 12:09 |
+BartJol | but I believe I saw a bugfix that should make it possible to go to 7.7.24 (not 23), luke | 12:10 |
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+BartJol | luke: http://github.com/plainblack/webgui/blob/v7.7.24/docs/gotcha.txt | 12:12 |
luke | thanks BartJol. i'll give it a go. | 12:13 |
+BartJol | luke there are quite some template changes, so checking the changelog might be wise too | 12:15 |
luke | i noticed that | 12:20 |
+BartJol | too late? | 12:32 |
luke | nono. i'm still procrastinating. | 12:38 |
+BartJol | aah very wise | 12:48 |
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+BartJol | mmm, it seems that in the template help, the event asset reports untruly that the synopsis variable is present | 15:55 |
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CIA-53 | webgui: Graham Knop master * r35d1fc9 / (docs/changelog/7.x.x.txt lib/WebGUI/AssetAspect/RssFeed.pm): fixed: RSS feeds generated with incorrect link for channel - http://bit.ly/1wqRNY | 17:12 |
SDuensin | Morning all. | 17:12 |
+BartJol | morning | 17:13 |
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+perlDreamer | Haarg, the RssFeed bug fix broke a test. I'm going to backport your patch and the test fix now, so I don't forget to backport the test patch later | 18:03 |
@Haarg | oop, sorry, was going to check tests but wanted to get it committed quickly. | 18:03 |
+perlDreamer | no sweat | 18:04 |
CIA-53 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * rc017926 / t/Asset/Wobject/EventManagementSystem.t : Add the eventMetaData template variable back to the test. - http://bit.ly/1DFazi | 18:04 |
CIA-53 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * rfcab301 / t/AssetAspect/RssFeed.t : Update RssFeed test. - http://bit.ly/2aJIaU | 18:04 |
CIA-53 | webgui: Graham Knop webgui-7.7 * r44b05b2 / (docs/changelog/7.x.x.txt lib/WebGUI/AssetAspect/RssFeed.pm): fixed: RSS feeds generated with incorrect link for channel - http://bit.ly/aLwoS | 18:04 |
CIA-53 | webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.7 * r5186799 / t/AssetAspect/RssFeed.t : Update RssFeed test. - http://bit.ly/1VmRd4 | 18:04 |
+perlDreamer | tavisto: If I fix this Shop bug now, can you have the user try to check out again? | 18:05 |
@tavisto | I can reply to their email and tell them to do so | 18:06 |
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+perlDreamer | tavisto, please make him do so | 18:41 |
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@tavisto | ok perlDreamer will do | 18:43 |
+BartJol | is there a reason that userdefined tmpl_vars are not included for the storymanager? | 18:48 |
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+BartJol | ah, dreamersgirl is in her class again | 18:49 |
dreamersgirl | :) | 18:50 |
dreamersgirl | We're learning about opioids.... | 18:50 |
+BartJol | doesn't sound simple | 18:51 |
+perlDreamer | BartJol: it doesn't have any to include? | 18:51 |
+BartJol | perlDreamer: yeah, but that is chicken-egg stuff | 18:52 |
+BartJol | I mean, why aren't they included as a feature in that whole manger | 18:53 |
+perlDreamer | they weren't in the spec | 18:53 |
+BartJol | ah | 18:53 |
+BartJol | so that would be an rfe | 18:53 |
+perlDreamer | definitely | 18:53 |
+BartJol | als filed | 18:57 |
+BartJol | and | 18:57 |
+BartJol | perlDreamer: so I can just leave that use_ok check out of the test, cool | 19:00 |
+BartJol | ? | 19:00 |
+perlDreamer | yeah | 19:00 |
+BartJol | well, let's rip it out and push it again, and then only 6 macros are completely without tests (or should we include the ones with only a use_ok test in that list......) | 19:01 |
+perlDreamer | yeah, I wasn't sure about separating them into categories like that | 19:02 |
+perlDreamer | but as long as everything is tested in the end | 19:02 |
CIA-53 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r74f7038 / lib/WebGUI/Asset.pm : Fix a bad comment. - http://bit.ly/1mwnPs | 19:06 |
CIA-53 | webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.7 * rb6f4f73 / lib/WebGUI/Asset.pm : Fix a bad comment. - http://bit.ly/1aW0O3 | 19:06 |
CIA-53 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * re9b11c5 / (2 files in 2 dirs): Navigation can use the default Asset getEditForm controls. Fixes bug #11188 - http://bit.ly/1fgJdb | 19:06 |
CIA-53 | webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.7 * r301763e / (2 files in 2 dirs): Navigation can use the default Asset getEditForm controls. Fixes bug #11188 - http://bit.ly/cdCD | 19:06 |
+BartJol | ok that is 1 then | 19:06 |
+BartJol | have fun merging | 19:07 |
+perlDreamer | I'll ship you the karma after I merge | 19:07 |
+BartJol | well, hold your horses, I intended to do more | 19:07 |
+perlDreamer | ah, but every time I give someone karma, I can post about it | 19:08 |
+perlDreamer | hopefully more people will sign up for test writing | 19:08 |
+perlDreamer | and then we'll have a whole herd of testers | 19:08 |
+BartJol | well, ok | 19:08 |
+perlDreamer | not that I want to give you competition or anything | 19:08 |
+BartJol | just give the next one, otherwise I have to choose | 19:08 |
+perlDreamer | it's first come, first serve | 19:09 |
+perlDreamer | which means you can pick the one that is easiest to test :) | 19:09 |
+BartJol | I already did | 19:09 |
+perlDreamer | I would pick StorageUrl next | 19:10 |
+BartJol | ok | 19:10 |
+BartJol | since I don't have any internet, I'll try to do that one tonight and post it tomorrow | 19:11 |
+perlDreamer | ah, yeha | 19:11 |
+perlDreamer | yeah | 19:11 |
+perlDreamer | no internet at Chez Jol | 19:11 |
+perlDreamer | is that something that is planned? | 19:11 |
+BartJol | no, only wireless woth passwords | 19:11 |
+BartJol | yeah my whole neighbourhoud put on security when I moved there | 19:12 |
+BartJol | it was a big operation | 19:12 |
+BartJol | and if I really feel like it, I might continue with a contenthandler, those are badly tested too | 19:13 |
+perlDreamer | yes | 19:13 |
+perlDreamer | most are not tested at all | 19:13 |
+perlDreamer | in fact, large pieces of WebGUI are not tested | 19:13 |
+perlDreamer | this is bad | 19:13 |
+BartJol | except 2 or three, including the very nice SetLanguage test | 19:13 |
+perlDreamer | SetLanguage is a gem | 19:13 |
+BartJol | :P | 19:14 |
+perlDreamer | for testing, I've been using this photo: http://imagebin.ca/view/5pFt3oTl.html | 19:16 |
+BartJol | ah, me will use this one http://blogs.bootsnall.com/pesta/archives/Peru/4.%20guinea%20pig.jpg | 19:17 |
+perlDreamer | mmm, french fries | 19:18 |
+perlDreamer | were you at the WUC where they served the pig for the luau, BartJol? | 19:18 |
+BartJol | no :( | 19:18 |
+BartJol | in vegas? | 19:18 |
+BartJol | or chicago> | 19:18 |
+perlDreamer | Vegas | 19:18 |
+BartJol | sounds like vegas | 19:19 |
+BartJol | no, only Madison WUC's for me | 19:19 |
+BartJol | mmmm, more than a million image results on fried guinea pig, it is a strange world, but all those pictures are making me hungry, so later | 19:21 |
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+perlDreamer | Haarg, preaction, fellow WebGUI folk, lend me your ears | 19:22 |
@Haarg | ? | 19:22 |
+perlDreamer | why is it that editing controls are not displayed when an Image Asset is AssetProxied? | 19:22 |
+perlDreamer | it appears to be designed in | 19:24 |
@Haarg | it's meant for if it is used in a design the toolbar doesn't get in the way | 19:24 |
@Haarg | according to rizen | 19:24 |
+perlDreamer | that makes sense | 19:25 |
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SDuensin | Interesting logic. Just turning on admin mode usually trashes my layouts. :-( | 19:26 |
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CIA-53 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r3768984 / (docs/changelog/7.x.x.txt lib/WebGUI/Macro/AssetProxy.pm): Update the POD for the AssetProxy macro, re the displaying of edit controls. Fixes bug #11189 - http://bit.ly/3IGBqS | 19:43 |
CIA-53 | webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.7 * rdee0954 / (docs/changelog/7.x.x.txt lib/WebGUI/Macro/AssetProxy.pm): Update the POD for the AssetProxy macro, re the displaying of edit controls. Fixes bug #11189 - http://bit.ly/4058sA | 19:43 |
+perlDreamer | Yay, Joeri! | 19:43 |
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SDuensin | Perl on Windows is compiled poop. | 19:58 |
+perlDreamer | s/Perl on//; | 19:59 |
SDuensin | That's the truth. | 19:59 |
SDuensin | They don't give me a real computer at work. | 19:59 |
SDuensin | All I want is an updated CPAN. Is that asking too much? | 20:00 |
+perlDreamer | are you using Strawberry Perl? | 20:00 |
SDuensin | Cygwin | 20:01 |
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CIA-53 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * rbaf9f3c / (4 files in 4 dirs): Make a synopsis field available to the Event edit form. Fixes bug #11190 - http://bit.ly/MuKor | 20:51 |
CIA-53 | webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.7 * r70d3d63 / lib/WebGUI/Asset/Wobject/Calendar.pm : Remove debug code from Calendar. - http://bit.ly/2TNfAK | 20:51 |
CIA-53 | webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.7 * r3ebd8f9 / (4 files in 4 dirs): Make a synopsis field available to the Event edit form. Fixes bug #11190 - http://bit.ly/3gRW2U | 20:51 |
CIA-53 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r9b94516 / lib/WebGUI/Asset/Wobject/Calendar.pm : Remove debug code from Calendar. - http://bit.ly/3ZgNeS | 20:53 |
topsub | Is there a way to import subscribers into webgui's Newsletter asset? | 21:06 |
+perlDreamer | not through the user interface | 21:06 |
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topsub | Would i have to do straight sql? | 21:07 |
topsub | Is that what you mean? | 21:07 |
topsub | Or write a script? | 21:07 |
+perlDreamer | yeah | 21:07 |
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topsub | Script would be best way you think? | 21:08 |
+perlDreamer | yes | 21:08 |
+perlDreamer | see setUserSubscriptions in Asset/Wobject/Collaboration/Newsletter.pm | 21:09 |
topsub | ah, nice thanks! | 21:17 |
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+perlDreamer | Haarg, do you happen to have that benchmark data for isIn vs grep vs first laying around? | 21:37 |
@Haarg | nope | 21:37 |
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ckotil | can i gracefully restart modproxy using apachectl like so? '/data/wre/prereqs/bin/apachectl -f /data/wre/etc/modproxy.conf graceful' | 22:38 |
@Haarg | yes | 22:41 |
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ckotil | sweet. needs +k too, but thanks. | 22:43 |
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+perlDreamer | awfully quiet today | 02:19 |
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daviddelikat | perlDreamer: are you going to be on later? and have a minute to look at something for me? | 02:52 |
* perlDreamer will be on until late tonight my time | 02:53 |
+perlDreamer | which is tomorrow your time | 02:53 |
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daviddelikat | I'm about to take a sort break for a ~late~ dinner and then try to fix the formatting on the EMS | 02:55 |
daviddelikat | its doing that thing where WG sends unproccessed pages out. so that they do not have correct formatting | 02:56 |
daviddelikat | anytime you feel lilkt peeking at it http://delikat.homeip.net:8080/ with the default password | 02:57 |
daviddelikat | look at the submission queue -> the three links on top of the datatable. | 02:57 |
daviddelikat | also let me know how it works for firefox. AFAIK it only works in safari. | 02:58 |
daviddelikat | I'll be back in about fifteen. I appretiate any input you can give. | 02:58 |
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+perlDreamer | I'm getting called for dinner, too. I'll be back in a while | 03:22 |
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CIA-53 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r3950611 / (3 files in 3 dirs): i18n the event recurrence form. Fixes bug #11194 - http://bit.ly/2YsjSK | 04:06 |
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CIA-53 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r1eeb76e / (3 files in 3 dirs): newByLineage should log its own error. Fixes bug #11192 - http://bit.ly/28faVU | 04:29 |
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+perlDreamer | hey, patspam! | 05:00 |
+perlDreamer | How are you doing? | 05:00 |
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+perlDreamer | daviddelikat: this is what I've found | 05:35 |
+perlDreamer | the DataForm on the view submission queue page just sits and spins. Doesn't seem to load anything. | 05:36 |
+perlDreamer | The new submission form is streaming a bunch of HTML down the line. The hoverhelp isn't being rendered because it has to be done with javascript, creating a new tooltip for each one. | 05:36 |
+perlDreamer | A macro is rendered on the bottom of the Add Submission page | 05:37 |
+perlDreamer | the link "the first one", looks like it brings up a filled in Add Submission form page. | 05:38 |
+perlDreamer | same broken International macro | 05:39 |
+perlDreamer | When I click on Add Submission Form, it throws an error of some kind. | 05:39 |
* perlDreamer has to do some shopping, be back soon | 05:39 |
daviddelikat | k thanks for the notes | 05:39 |
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daviddelikat | back in he mornin | 06:53 |
+perlDreamer | 'night | 06:54 |
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daviddelikat | So I got tired of Firefox... and now I'm developing in Safari | 16:14 |
daviddelikat | but it is giving me this error: | 16:14 |
daviddelikat | resource interpreted as other... | 16:14 |
daviddelikat | and the file appears to be empty | 16:14 |
+BartJol | well, I do that to, when someone sends me a file, I read another and say that I don't get it :) | 16:18 |
+BartJol | but what kind off file? | 16:18 |
+BartJol | daviddelikat: I do have konqueror, so I might check it out | 16:21 |
+BartJol | even got safari on my other box | 16:22 |
daviddelikat | well, I realized as I was typinh in IRC that I had not yet googled the message | 16:22 |
daviddelikat | so I did that | 16:22 |
daviddelikat | and found that it seems to be GASP ~a bug~ in Safari... | 16:22 |
daviddelikat | so I'm upgrading | 16:22 |
+BartJol | ah, at first I would guess wrong url copied or version tag not committed :) | 16:23 |
daviddelikat | its a js faile in extras | 16:23 |
daviddelikat | s/faile/file/ | 16:23 |
daviddelikat | so if anything it would be mod_proxy | 16:23 |
+BartJol | well | 16:23 |
+BartJol | not per se | 16:23 |
daviddelikat | and come to think of it I think I'll restart it | 16:24 |
daviddelikat | how so? | 16:24 |
+BartJol | extras is also a urlhandler | 16:24 |
+BartJol | might go something wrong there too, would be strange | 16:24 |
+BartJol | but not impossible | 16:24 |
daviddelikat | whats a 'urlhandler'? | 16:24 |
+BartJol | well,, look into your webgui conf at urlHandler | 16:25 |
+BartJol | you'll find some | 16:25 |
daviddelikat | so its an asset or perl object of some kind | 16:25 |
+BartJol | yeah | 16:25 |
+BartJol | the last | 16:25 |
+BartJol | if a call comes to webgui, it first checks the urlHandlers | 16:26 |
+BartJol | and handles them in the right order | 16:26 |
JDanPl | BartJol: greate! You explained how webgui manage with URL's. Thanks. | 16:39 |
+BartJol | ehh with that short description? | 16:40 |
+BartJol | it is only the first step :) | 16:40 |
+BartJol | I made a contentHandler, so I had to understand it | 16:41 |
JDanPl | Yes, but I know now where is begining | 16:41 |
+BartJol | ah | 16:41 |
+BartJol | in the dev book there is a nice diagram of that | 16:41 |
JDanPl | I have to order this book. | 16:42 |
+BartJol | the contenthandlers work almost the same (so order in conf is important) | 16:43 |
+BartJol | so if no special case in urlhandling, it is content, then it checks whether it is a contenthandler, if yes->execute, if not->retrieve normal content | 16:44 |
JDanPl | So contentHandlers represents some actions | 16:45 |
+BartJol | I can do a presentation at the wuc next year: WebGUI::TheShortWay | 16:45 |
+BartJol | yes, like turning admin on | 16:45 |
+BartJol | mostly it changes some session properties | 16:45 |
+BartJol | I believe | 16:45 |
+BartJol | or allows you to add assets | 16:46 |
+BartJol | stuff like that | 16:47 |
+BartJol | or set your session language (in 7.8.3) | 16:47 |
+BartJol | just check the contentHandler order for that | 16:48 |
+BartJol | also in the conf | 16:48 |
JDanPl | ok, I see | 16:50 |
+BartJol | JDanPl: I had to dive into that with the language stuff. You wanna change it, but if you do that with a macro, that is executed when the page has almost rendered, so you have to do that before retrieving content | 16:50 |
JDanPl | BartJol: I made a couple of simple macros. For example WebGUI::Macro::GroupIdTextUp which is extension to WebGUI::Macro::GroupeText. Can I send it at first to you? | 16:56 |
+BartJol | sure | 16:56 |
+BartJol | what do you want me to do with it? | 16:57 |
JDanPl | Check is it worth public and is it good prepared | 16:58 |
+BartJol | ah, ok | 16:58 |
+BartJol | just e-mail me the file, tell what you want to do with it (should be clear from the POD) and what you would use it for | 16:59 |
+BartJol | actually, if it passes the normal use test, it might be worthwhile to write a test for it | 16:59 |
+BartJol | but let's not go too fast | 17:00 |
JDanPl | How I can gain your emai? I don't see at sources | 17:00 |
+BartJol | even my smiley macro is downloaded | 17:00 |
+BartJol | you should have another open tab in your im client now | 17:00 |
+BartJol | ok, perlsyntax = ok | 17:11 |
+BartJol | that is a first important step | 17:11 |
JDanPl | Perl is my home | 17:11 |
JDanPl | from many yers ;-) | 17:11 |
+BartJol | but often we shift all parameters in to a variable | 17:11 |
+BartJol | to keep them tracked | 17:12 |
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JDanPl | hm... there macros expect varius number of params | 17:14 |
+BartJol | JDanPl: it might be me, but I thought 0 was a valid value, and so the !$param statement seems odd | 17:14 |
JDanPl | yes, you are right | 17:14 |
+BartJol | het thenm in an array first and stuff them in a hash | 17:15 |
+BartJol | I did that with mu languagepageswitch, it is on the bazaar | 17:15 |
+BartJol | almost the same handling of that hash | 17:15 |
+BartJol | except for what you're actually doing | 17:16 |
+BartJol | JDanPl: group Id 3 is not recognised | 17:26 |
+BartJol | which is strange | 17:26 |
+BartJol | it exists | 17:26 |
+BartJol | and I am in it as admin | 17:27 |
+BartJol | for the groupidtextup macro | 17:27 |
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+BartJol | mmm and the other gives a strange error: Macro has no process sub: WebGUI::Macro::GroupTextUp. which it has.... | 17:31 |
JDanPl | It's strange. In my instance of WebGUI it works corrctly. I have to check it | 17:32 |
+BartJol | well, it might be my install | 17:33 |
+BartJol | It was more glancing | 17:33 |
+BartJol | so I guess I did something wrong | 17:33 |
JDanPl | juts moment | 17:34 |
+BartJol | it is called, so I put it in the right dir and I got the name right in the conf | 17:35 |
JDanPl | Simple test ^GroupIdTextUp('3','Group 3','1','Group 1'); showd me macro works right | 17:36 |
+BartJol | mmm, then I did something, let's have a look | 17:38 |
+BartJol | mmm, it parses, so that is good | 17:42 |
JDanPl | I concern that spliting array to hash does not guarantee former order. For example foreach my $language (keys %assetsLanguage) { not always run in the same order | 17:47 |
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+BartJol | that is correct, since it is an hash | 17:48 |
JDanPl | In macro GroupIdTextUp order of params is important. | 17:49 |
+BartJol | ok | 17:49 |
+BartJol | then leave it in the array and just shift out 2 in each loop | 17:49 |
JDanPl | ok | 17:50 |
+BartJol | the use use of @_ is very nice perl, but maybe not better readable | 17:50 |
+BartJol | do you have it in a custom dir? | 18:01 |
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+BartJol | I do, dunno why, but it can make a difference | 18:02 |
+perlDreamer | BartJol, you ready for a merge? | 18:02 |
+BartJol | sorry perlDreamer didn't come around to that testing yesterday | 18:02 |
+perlDreamer | no sweat | 18:02 |
+BartJol | well, I did make a fork | 18:02 |
+BartJol | but after that something was a bit strange | 18:03 |
+BartJol | and I had to do other stuff | 18:03 |
+BartJol | so unfortunately, no | 18:03 |
+BartJol | let's have a look | 18:03 |
+BartJol | did you already did something with that BackToSite stuff? otherwise it is useless to look at it now | 18:04 |
+perlDreamer | I haven't done anything yet. | 18:05 |
+perlDreamer | From your email this morning, I thought you might have started some new test | 18:05 |
+perlDreamer | which means merging would get me partially done code | 18:05 |
+perlDreamer | which is like eating half cooked pannenkoeken | 18:05 |
+BartJol | that might be true at the moment | 18:06 |
+BartJol | or cooked haring | 18:06 |
+BartJol | at this moment I'm getting used to working with that fork | 18:08 |
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+perlDreamer | morning, tavisto | 18:26 |
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@tavisto | yo pD | 18:33 |
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daviddelikat | so what is it in template processing that determines whether macros are processed or not? | 18:55 |
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@Haarg | macros aren't processed as part of the template processing | 18:55 |
@Haarg | they are processed on output | 18:56 |
@Haarg | there are some cases where they are processed aside from output, but those are handled by the individual components, not as part of template processing | 18:57 |
daviddelikat | whats the switch that turns it on or off? | 18:57 |
@Haarg | in what case? | 18:57 |
daviddelikat | I have a macro that is not being' translated' | 18:57 |
daviddelikat | how many cases are there? | 18:57 |
@Haarg | when you are outputting content, you can tell it not to process macros | 18:58 |
@Haarg | that isn't done in a lot of places though | 18:58 |
@Haarg | what is the case you are dealing with? | 18:58 |
daviddelikat | I'm returning some JSON that contains HTML | 18:58 |
daviddelikat | do I need to run it through Macro processing manually? | 18:59 |
@Haarg | you'll have to manually process the macros | 18:59 |
daviddelikat | thanks | 19:00 |
daviddelikat | I don't know why I didn't think of that myself | 19:01 |
@Haarg | if the mime type is set to something that isn't text/ it disables macro parsing | 19:01 |
@Haarg | because you can't do automatic macro parsing on json content | 19:02 |
daviddelikat | Haarg: do you know what JS needs to run in order to get hoverHelp rendered correctly? | 19:05 |
@Haarg | the hoverhelp stuff is all in www/extras/hoverHelp.js. it's been a while so i don't know exactly what you need to do for stuff added after page load | 19:07 |
+perlDreamer | it's evil, evil bug day | 19:11 |
daviddelikat | is there any other kind of bug? | 19:14 |
+perlDreamer | yeah, there are cute fluffy little bugs that take 3.5 minutes to fix | 19:14 |
daviddelikat | I like to call those 'typos | 19:14 |
+perlDreamer | so far, I've had the 0 ne 0 bug, the duplicate database property bug and the perl array autovivifaction bug. | 19:14 |
CIA-53 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * rd852602 / (docs/changelog/7.x.x.txt lib/WebGUI/Shop/Pay.pm): | 19:25 |
CIA-53 | webgui: Fix small number handling in the Shop. Fixes bug #11195 | 19:25 |
CIA-53 | webgui: Format the number to be checked against 0.00 in Shop/Pay.pm, since sometimes perl | 19:25 |
CIA-53 | webgui: will leave small remainders when subtracting numbers. - http://bit.ly/qzsmK | 19:25 |
CIA-53 | webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.7 * r16f6aa4 / (docs/changelog/7.x.x.txt lib/WebGUI/Shop/Pay.pm): | 19:25 |
CIA-53 | webgui: Fix small number handling in the Shop. Fixes bug #11195 | 19:25 |
CIA-53 | webgui: Format the number to be checked against 0.00 in Shop/Pay.pm, since sometimes perl | 19:25 |
CIA-53 | webgui: will leave small remainders when subtracting numbers. - http://bit.ly/rMeAd | 19:25 |
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ecopunk | I have a quick question... Is there any way to give a group permission to edit templates (New Content > Utilities > Templates) without putting them in the Admin group? | 21:03 |
+perlDreamer | ecopunk, by default all templates are owned by the group called Turn Admin On | 21:06 |
+perlDreamer | but I've never seen that menu you're talking about | 21:07 |
ecopunk | Hmmm... There must be a change in the setup I'm working with, as I've already tried placing the user in that group to no avail. | 21:09 |
+perlDreamer | let me double check, I could wrong | 21:09 |
+perlDreamer | It's a day that ends in Y | 21:09 |
+perlDreamer | I've checked 1 Article Template, and it's owned by Turn Admin On | 21:10 |
+perlDreamer | excuse me, not owned by, but Group To Edit is Turn Admin On | 21:11 |
+perlDreamer | now, adding a template is different from editing a template | 21:12 |
+perlDreamer | is that what you mean | 21:12 |
daviddelikat | preaction: do you happen to know how to get initHoverHelp to work from other places? | 21:14 |
+perlDreamer | daviddelikat, I think patspam or perlmonkey2 knows how to do that | 21:16 |
+perlDreamer | they've shipped stuff across XHR/JSON requests for the Survey | 21:16 |
daviddelikat | very good, are they around? | 21:16 |
+perlDreamer | don't know, but looking through the Survey JS would be a good place to start | 21:16 |
+perlDreamer | also, you could look at the Thingy, since it dynamically builds the forms to add new fields to a Thingy | 21:17 |
+perlDreamer | and, iirc, it has hoverhelp | 21:17 |
daviddelikat | I've looked through it a bit, but there is something alluding me | 21:17 |
+perlDreamer | eluding | 21:17 |
daviddelikat | I inserted the call but the function is not found at the call point | 21:18 |
daviddelikat | yes that | 21:18 |
ecopunk | perlDreamer: Yes. Or perhaps I should say create a new template. | 21:22 |
+perlDreamer | creating any new asset can only be done from a place where the current user has edit privileges | 21:22 |
+perlDreamer | so if they can't edit the current page/asset/whatever, they won't be able to add a new template | 21:23 |
+perlDreamer | for example, in a new install, all assets are owned by Admin, and editable by the group Content Managers | 21:24 |
+perlDreamer | except for the home page, which is owned by Admin, and editable by Admins | 21:24 |
+perlDreamer | which seems kind of screwy | 21:24 |
+perlDreamer | and checking further, it's pretty random as to the group editing privileges on the default content | 21:27 |
+perlDreamer | Haarg, should those be made consistent? | 21:28 |
+perlDreamer | select a.assetId, title, d.groupIdEdit, d.ownerUserId from asset as a join assetData as d using (assetId) where lineage like '000001000002%'; | 21:28 |
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+perlDreamer | it is not going to be pretty | 21:33 |
jnegative | at least you're going. more than most can say | 21:33 |
daviddelikat | patspam or perlmonkey2: I'm having trouble with initializing hover help after a JSON transfer | 21:34 |
daviddelikat | Haarg: I don't suppose you've recently added a 'grep' function for searching packages in wgd? | 21:36 |
@Haarg | wgd ls --filter may do what you want | 21:36 |
@Haarg | i haven't really used it - patspam wrote it | 21:37 |
daviddelikat | I'll look at it | 21:37 |
daviddelikat | I really want to look inside templates for some text | 21:39 |
daviddelikat | is there any way to dump the whole thing to disk? | 21:39 |
@Haarg | wgd export-branch | 21:41 |
daviddelikat | is that a new command? I don't seem to have it here. | 21:42 |
@Haarg | relatively new, yes | 21:43 |
daviddelikat | I figured it out | 21:43 |
daviddelikat | dash not underscore | 21:44 |
ecopunk | perlDreamer: Weird, still can't get it to work. Thanks, though... You gave me a few more ideas to try. | 21:49 |
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+perlDreamer | daviddelikat: you can also look at docs/create.sql, but it's not easy | 23:32 |
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daviddelikat | I figured out what I was missing for hoverhelp... | 03:21 |
daviddelikat | it was the hoverhelp style sheet! | 03:21 |
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CIA-53 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * rb4112e8 / (t/Shop/Ship.t t/Shop/ShipDriver/UPS.t): Update tests for UPS driver. Cleanup diags. - http://bit.ly/2ItEsC | 06:56 |
+perlDreamer | that's right folks, you saw it here first | 06:57 |
+perlDreamer | WebGUI now has a UPS shipping driver | 06:57 |
CIA-53 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * rbc0a774 / docs/create.sql : Preparing for 7.8.3 release. - http://bit.ly/mObO1 | 07:20 |
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CIA-53 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r0b972be / (docs/gotcha.txt sbin/testEnvironment.pl): Document that Locales::Country is required for the new UPS shipping driver. - http://bit.ly/13vAkR | 07:35 |
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+perlDreamer | thanks, Radix_ | 08:16 |
+Radix_ | It's about all I do anymore I'm afraid ;( | 08:16 |
+perlDreamer | No more webgui work? | 08:16 |
+Radix_ | nah, no time these days.. | 08:17 |
+perlDreamer | that's a bummer man | 08:17 |
+Radix_ | we're still using 7.0.8 here at work and I haven't had time to go and upgrade it | 08:17 |
+Radix_ | that said.. it's working well still, so can't complain :) | 08:17 |
+Radix_ | About to get married in a few days, so will have even less time for a while ;) | 08:18 |
+perlDreamer | Congratulations! | 08:18 |
+Radix_ | ta :) | 08:18 |
CIA-53 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r5ef8252 / (4 files in 4 dirs): Ready for 7.8.4 development cycle. - http://bit.ly/mjzRW | 08:20 |
CIA-53 | webgui: JT Smith master * r33f0383 / (docs/changelog/7.x.x.txt lib/Spectre/Workflow.pm): Fixed a compatibility problem between WRE and new Spectre code. - http://bit.ly/vHmWk | 08:39 |
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CIA-53 | WebGUI: translation * r12382 /translations/German/German/ (ShipDriver_UPS.pm Macro_PickLanguage.pm): Updating German on translation server | 10:53 |
CIA-53 | WebGUI: translation * r12383 /translations/German/German/Asset.pm: Updating German on translation server | 10:53 |
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CIA-53 | WebGUI: translation * r12384 /translations/German/German/Asset_Collaboration.pm: Updating German on translation server | 11:08 |
CIA-53 | WebGUI: translation * r12385 /translations/German/German/Asset_Map.pm: Updating German on translation server | 11:08 |
CIA-53 | WebGUI: translation * r12386 /translations/German/German/WebGUI.pm: Updating German on translation server | 11:08 |
CIA-53 | WebGUI: translation * r12387 /translations/German/German/Shop.pm: Updating German on translation server | 11:08 |
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CIA-53 | WebGUI: translation * r12388 /translations/German/German/Macro_PickLanguage.pm: Updating German on translation server | 11:23 |
CIA-53 | WebGUI: translation * r12389 /translations/German/German/Asset_Event.pm: Updating German on translation server | 11:23 |
CIA-53 | WebGUI: translation * r12390 /translations/German/German/Asset_EventManagementSystem.pm: Updating German on translation server | 11:38 |
CIA-53 | WebGUI: translation * r12391 /translations/German/German/ShipDriver_UPS.pm: Updating German on translation server | 11:38 |
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CIA-53 | WebGUI: translation * r12392 /translations/Dutch/Dutch/ (7 files): Updating Dutch on translation server | 12:08 |
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CIA-53 | WebGUI: translation * r12393 /translations/Dutch/Dutch/ (5 files): Updating Dutch on translation server | 12:39 |
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+BartJol | gugod: some connection problems? | 12:51 |
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CIA-53 | WebGUI: translation * r12394 /translations/Dutch/Dutch/Asset_EventManagementSystem.pm: Updating Dutch on translation server | 12:53 |
CIA-53 | WebGUI: translation * r12395 /translations/Dutch/Dutch/ShipDriver_UPS.pm: Updating Dutch on translation server | 13:09 |
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+BartJol | KlausH: is there a UPS translator for all that terminilogy? | 13:18 |
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CIA-53 | WebGUI: translation * r12396 /translations/Dutch/Dutch/ShipDriver_UPS.pm: Updating Dutch on translation server | 14:15 |
CIA-53 | WebGUI: translation * r12397 /translations/German/German/PayDriver_Ogone.pm: Updating German on translation server | 14:15 |
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SDuensin | Good morning. | 16:26 |
+BartJol | morning | 16:58 |
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SDuensin | Wow. I completely do not understand Microsoft. Their home page proclaims: "Windows 7 is pretty dope," "...my games partition survived," "after ironing out a few kinks...is my favorite OS." Gee, glowing endorsements. | 17:08 |
+BartJol | yeah the faith drips out of it | 17:09 |
SDuensin | Who decided to put "my games partition *survived*" on the home page?! | 17:10 |
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+BartJol | I don't know | 17:12 |
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SDuensin | If I was a developer for them, I'd be hunting that person down. | 17:13 |
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SDuensin | Can you imagine? "Hey rizen! WebGUI 8 didn't destroy my site!" and he puts it on the home page. :-) | 17:14 |
daviddelikat | perhaps 'dope' has changed sense, like bad == good | 17:14 |
SDuensin | Thing is, the "dope" comment is the best one up there! | 17:14 |
daviddelikat | yeah, I see the rest ow, -- took a while to load the rest... ( slow connetion ) | 17:15 |
SDuensin | The other is happy it didn't destroy his other partition, and the last now likes W7 after he tweaked/fixed it. Amazing! | 17:15 |
+BartJol | well, maybe they have a new policy for only talking about windows in understatements... | 17:15 |
daviddelikat | yeah thats pretty funny | 17:15 |
daviddelikat | gotta get an image of that... | 17:16 |
SDuensin | hehe | 17:16 |
SDuensin | I just checked. It's a shame my MS buddy isn't online right now. :-D | 17:16 |
+BartJol | windows 7, the windows that didn't break all stuff | 17:16 |
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daviddelikat | I've got screen prints | 17:17 |
SDuensin | Just amazing. | 17:18 |
SDuensin | Glad someone got copies. I'm stuck browserless halfway through an IE8 upgrade. | 17:19 |
+BartJol | oh, mine went fine | 17:19 |
daviddelikat | http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/597042/survived%20win%207.jpg | 17:19 |
SDuensin | (And that's pronounced "Aye-Eeeeeeeeee!") | 17:19 |
daviddelikat | http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/597042/iron%20win%207.jpg | 17:19 |
daviddelikat | perhaps I should crop them a bit? | 17:20 |
+BartJol | nice, that chat window in the background :) | 17:20 |
SDuensin | What are you chatting with? I don't recognize it. | 17:21 |
daviddelikat | pidgin | 17:22 |
daviddelikat | its pretty nice | 17:22 |
daviddelikat | even has a facebook plugin | 17:22 |
SDuensin | Never used it for IRC. Cool. | 17:22 |
+BartJol | chatting with pidgin too | 17:22 |
daviddelikat | I recently found that you can very easily move you settings | 17:22 |
daviddelikat | just copy the '.purple' folder from application settings | 17:23 |
SDuensin | I'm taking the scenic route to get here... Windows->NX->SSH->LinuxBox->XChat->ZNC->IRC. :-) | 17:23 |
daviddelikat | wow! | 17:23 |
SDuensin | My IM path is even worse. :-) | 17:24 |
daviddelikat | I don't have that kind of patience | 17:24 |
SDuensin | But it lets me connect to IRC/IM from anywhere with any IRC client. I can connect multiple times and all the windows get updated at the same time. I can disconnect and it buffers what I miss for playback. I can even get it on my phone. | 17:25 |
SDuensin | Well, all you'd need is the ZNC part. It's a bouncer. For IM, I put Bitlbee behind ZNC. | 17:25 |
daviddelikat | I've thought about using a VM for my stuff | 17:25 |
daviddelikat | I already VM my development | 17:25 |
daviddelikat | so I never have to close my sessions | 17:26 |
SDuensin | The NX/SSH stuff is how I'm punching through the firewall at work to get to my Linux desktop at home. It also lets me suspend and resume from elsewhere later. I've been logged in with XChat running for weeks now. :-) | 17:26 |
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SDuensin | It's kind of neat. It's really shown me how little I rely on OS-specific software for my day-to-day. The only program I really miss having is 1Password. | 17:27 |
+BartJol | well, that's considered save by some | 17:28 |
+BartJol | safe | 17:28 |
SDuensin | What's safe? | 17:28 |
+BartJol | more than 1 passwd | 17:28 |
SDuensin | I mean the Mac app "1Password". | 17:29 |
+BartJol | ah | 17:29 |
+BartJol | didn't know that | 17:29 |
SDuensin | It's a really slick password manager. | 17:29 |
SDuensin | I just need to find an open source one I like. Been too lazy since 1P does the job. | 17:29 |
SDuensin | Here's a nice example of NX being very handy. Gotta reboot my PC. But I'm not leaving. :-) | 17:31 |
+BartJol | mike, it's amaaaazing | 17:32 |
daviddelikat | SDuensin: keeppass is open source. just released 2.? | 17:32 |
daviddelikat | i'm still on 1.1 so I don't know what the new one looks like | 17:33 |
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SDuensin | I'll look into it. | 17:34 |
SDuensin | (See? All rebooted!) | 17:34 |
daviddelikat | very nice | 17:34 |
daviddelikat | http://keepass.info/ | 17:35 |
SDuensin | Mono, eh? I guess I can live with that. | 17:36 |
daviddelikat | one of these days there will be ~real~ portability | 17:36 |
SDuensin | This box has "seahorse" password and key manager thingie on it. | 17:37 |
daviddelikat | when people start building apps in LLVM | 17:37 |
SDuensin | Technology-wise, I like Mono. Licensing, it's a bit spooky. | 17:37 |
daviddelikat | LLVM apps you could run the same apps from USB on linux,mac,win and whatever else comes along | 17:38 |
daviddelikat | I wonder how long it will be before I start seeing Win7 licenses in my E-Scrap... | 17:40 |
daviddelikat | took less than a year for WinXP | 17:41 |
SDuensin | Yea, LLVM is neat. A game engine I've been working on is going to use it to run under Flash. :-) | 17:41 |
SDuensin | Parrot looks neat for cross-platform stuff, too. | 17:43 |
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+perlDreamer | Haarg, I mistyped this: git commit -ac24e4ecc | 17:46 |
+perlDreamer | and now it won't let me commit anymore | 17:46 |
+perlDreamer | when I try to commit, it just gives me the standard command line prompt back | 17:46 |
+perlDreamer | no error messages | 17:46 |
+perlDreamer | nada | 17:46 |
@Haarg | what were you intending to type? | 17:47 |
@Haarg | and what do you get from git status | 17:47 |
+perlDreamer | supposed to have typed git commit -ac 24e4ecc | 17:47 |
+perlDreamer | git st shows nothing unusual: http://gist.github.com/226138 | 17:48 |
+perlDreamer | ah, pre-commit hook tripped | 17:48 |
+perlDreamer | I redirected all output to dev/null | 17:49 |
+perlDreamer | because 1500 lines of passing is not good | 17:49 |
SDuensin | Wish we could direct users there. | 17:49 |
+perlDreamer | but then they wouldn't pay their bills | 17:50 |
SDuensin | Half mine don't anyway. Bastards. | 17:50 |
+BartJol | strange, tests for SetLanguage also pass with more languages installed, it's amazing | 17:54 |
+perlDreamer | Nice work, BartJol | 17:55 |
+BartJol | ah, only the macro fails | 17:55 |
+BartJol | because 2 sets of tmpl_vars | 17:55 |
+BartJol | or double loop actually | 17:55 |
+perlDreamer | well, contact the author and report it as a bug | 17:56 |
+perlDreamer | the t/International.t installs a fake language pack that you can use to test that behavior | 17:56 |
+BartJol | I don't like the author | 17:57 |
+BartJol | he pushes his own so called "features" into the core, without anyone asking but him | 17:57 |
+perlDreamer | well, that last part may not be true | 17:58 |
+perlDreamer | As part of WebGUI Statistics, JT collects which macros are enabled on a site | 17:58 |
+perlDreamer | so, in a few months, you could ask him if anyone is using PickLanguage | 17:58 |
+BartJol | oh, cool | 17:58 |
+BartJol | let's bug him right away :) | 17:58 |
+BartJol | but no-one asked me to do it, oh no that's not true either, bepo wanted something like that, but scared her away, that seems to happen with germans | 18:02 |
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@Haarg | perlDreamer, is your pre-commit hook using prove? why can't you just have it run in non-verbose mode? that would output like 4 lines if there weren't any errors. | 18:10 |
+perlDreamer | I was using perl for the hook | 18:10 |
+perlDreamer | a few days ago, I added this to the end: 2>&1 | 18:11 |
+perlDreamer | that was a mistake | 18:11 |
+perlDreamer | BartJol, is it a good time to merge in your test branch? | 18:24 |
CIA-53 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r24e4ecc / (2 files in 2 dirs): Fix an i18n typo in the EMS. - http://bit.ly/3CvSZ2 | 18:24 |
+BartJol | well, I made a mess of all my git repo's | 18:24 |
* perlDreamer will wait then :) | 18:24 |
* SDuensin still doesn't grok git. | 18:24 |
+BartJol | I use an account and have 3-4 repo's under it | 18:25 |
+perlDreamer | git r0Xer$ | 18:25 |
SDuensin | So I hear. | 18:25 |
+BartJol | except the international and picklange and macrotesting repo's, it's a mess and I need to clean that up | 18:25 |
+perlDreamer | let me know when you're ready | 18:26 |
+perlDreamer | SDuensin, here's just 1 killer feature of git. It's called stash | 18:26 |
+perlDreamer | let's suppose you're in the middle of working on something | 18:26 |
+perlDreamer | and you have to drop what you're doing and work on a new project | 18:27 |
+perlDreamer | in SVN, you'd have to make another checkout | 18:27 |
+perlDreamer | in git, you say "git stash save" | 18:27 |
+perlDreamer | and it rolls you back to HEAD, and save all of your work on a stack so you can pop it off later | 18:27 |
SDuensin | That would be handy. | 18:28 |
+perlDreamer | it's massively handy | 18:28 |
+perlDreamer | My stack depth averages 1 on a day to day basis | 18:28 |
SDuensin | I was just about to ask. :-) | 18:28 |
+perlDreamer | patspam++ for clueing me in | 18:28 |
* perlDreamer heads off to a coffeeshop with Mrs Dreamer. bbiaw | 18:29 |
+BartJol | coffeeshop.... | 18:29 |
SDuensin | I'm using Redmine for project & source control. I knew how SVN worked in it. GIT seems newer in their "support". | 18:29 |
SDuensin | Food time here. Back sometime. | 18:31 |
+BartJol | mmm it seems that I finally got it | 18:37 |
+BartJol | or that I screwed up, and when my branche is merged, the whole of webgui disappears | 18:40 |
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+perlDreamer | ahhh, coffeeshop! | 19:31 |
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+perlDreamer | morning, patspam | 19:49 |
+perlDreamer | you poor, east coast jetlagged programmer | 19:49 |
+patspam | hehe | 19:49 |
+patspam | hey perlDreamer! | 19:49 |
+patspam | just wired up my poor, jetlagged desktop pc | 19:49 |
+perlDreamer | is it liking New York? | 19:49 |
+patspam | it's still acclimatising :) | 19:50 |
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+patspam | as is my wifi connection | 19:51 |
+perlDreamer | did you see that I finally got in an ironman post? | 19:52 |
+perlDreamer | and that someone else blogged about it? | 19:52 |
+patspam | ooh not yet! | 19:52 |
+patspam | I'm behind on my rss feeds | 19:53 |
+perlDreamer | git pre-commit hook for webgui | 19:53 |
+patspam | sweet, for test suite integration? | 19:54 |
+perlDreamer | yeah. although I'm just testing t/00_compile.t | 19:55 |
+patspam | that's awesome | 19:56 |
+patspam | man I get so many telemarketing calls here! | 19:57 |
+perlDreamer | there's a registry called the Do Not Call List. | 19:57 |
+patspam | heh yeah, just googled it | 19:58 |
+perlDreamer | also, if they call you, you can tel them, "Please add me to your Do Not Call list and do not call again." | 19:58 |
+perlDreamer | and they have to do that | 19:58 |
+perlDreamer | well, at least in Oregon. Not sure if that's a national law or not | 19:58 |
+patspam | except they're all pre-recorded messages | 19:58 |
+perlDreamer | those are illegal in Oregon, too | 19:59 |
+patspam | I knew i should've moved to Oregon instead | 20:00 |
+perlDreamer | yeah, except for that whole girlfriend thing... | 20:01 |
* patspam heads out for lunch | 20:16 |
daviddelikat | how does WG handle the numeric i18n codes? | 20:22 |
+perlDreamer | davidelikat, the same way it handles stringy i18n codes | 20:22 |
+perlDreamer | except that you don't have to quote them in perl code | 20:22 |
daviddelikat | but where are they stored? | 20:23 |
+perlDreamer | which namespace are they in? | 20:23 |
daviddelikat | do you need a specific i18n object? | 20:23 |
daviddelikat | or are they on all of them? | 20:23 |
+perlDreamer | no, but the i18n objects are created with a default namespace | 20:23 |
+perlDreamer | so $i18n->get('key') only works if it's in the default namespace for that object | 20:23 |
+perlDreamer | so, find where the object was instanciated and you'll know what the namespace is | 20:24 |
daviddelikat | what neamsace are the numeric codes in? | 20:24 |
+perlDreamer | what do you mean by "numeric code"? | 20:24 |
daviddelikat | code 99 translates as untitled | 20:24 |
daviddelikat | what namespace is it in? | 20:25 |
+perlDreamer | again, you're asking the question backwards | 20:25 |
+perlDreamer | to know what code 99 is, you have to know the namespace | 20:25 |
+perlDreamer | since the keys are not globally unique | 20:25 |
daviddelikat | I understand what you are saying | 20:27 |
daviddelikat | but I was hoping to find out that there are some standard codes like 'untitled' that are available across the board | 20:28 |
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+perlDreamer | no, each key is unique to its namespace | 20:28 |
+perlDreamer | so you have to go digging to find out if they're defined in other namespaces | 20:28 |
+perlDreamer | that's starting to sound like a good wgd plugin | 20:29 |
+perlDreamer | wgd i18n key=99 | 20:29 |
+perlDreamer | or wgd i18n search="some value/phrase/regex" | 20:29 |
daviddelikat | do you know what module implements the i18n object? | 20:29 |
+perlDreamer | International.pm | 20:29 |
daviddelikat | ok course, why don't I ever think of that... | 20:30 |
SDuensin | Anyone see this? http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/?p=4443 | 20:30 |
+perlDreamer | nope | 20:31 |
SDuensin | Yet another market for them to half-ass. | 20:31 |
+perlDreamer | we'll have to see if the code lives up to the projected hype | 20:31 |
+perlDreamer | but know one thing for sure, it just got harder to sell WebGUI into Microsoft shops | 20:32 |
+perlDreamer | daviddelikat: key 99 is in the Asset and WebGUI namespaces | 20:32 |
SDuensin | "Microsoft Shops" worry me. Too much Kool-Aid drinking going around. | 20:33 |
daviddelikat | yeah I found it | 20:33 |
+perlDreamer | and it means Title in both cases | 20:33 |
daviddelikat | I'm just wondering if I should make my own or use that one. | 20:33 |
+perlDreamer | use that one | 20:33 |
+perlDreamer | We have plans to flatten the namespaces in i18n, which will result in a smaller translation pack. | 20:34 |
+perlDreamer | but for now, it makes the job of the translators easier | 20:34 |
daviddelikat | sounds like a great idea | 20:34 |
+perlDreamer | every once in a while, I go through and try to prune out duplicates | 20:34 |
+perlDreamer | but it's a lot of work | 20:34 |
+perlDreamer | and it almost guarantees breakage in private code | 20:35 |
daviddelikat | it would be a good start to have a set of standard items which are imported into all namespaces ( possibly with numeric codes to eliminate problems ) | 20:36 |
+perlDreamer | the importing into all namespaces is a problem | 20:36 |
daviddelikat | not really: %target = ( %part1, %part2 ); | 20:37 |
daviddelikat | just make sure that part1 is all text keys and part 2 is all numeric keys | 20:37 |
+perlDreamer | all of the old, original WebGUI keys are numeric | 20:38 |
+perlDreamer | but a lot of the newer ones aren't | 20:38 |
daviddelikat | that is the point | 20:39 |
+perlDreamer | so you wouldn't get all the useful ones | 20:39 |
daviddelikat | all the new custom keys are text | 20:39 |
+perlDreamer | like month and day names | 20:39 |
daviddelikat | perhaps the get function needs to have a map? | 20:40 |
+perlDreamer | get was tweaked to make it really fast | 20:41 |
daviddelikat | like: return $h1->{key} || $h2->{key} || $h1->{$map{key}} | 20:41 |
+perlDreamer | since i18n is one of the bottlenecks | 20:41 |
daviddelikat | i guess that would eliminate many of the ways that would make it handy... | 20:41 |
daviddelikat | fast and hany dont usually go together | 20:42 |
daviddelikat | s/hany/handy/ | 20:42 |
daviddelikat | I gotta git back to work | 20:42 |
+perlDreamer | YES! | 20:43 |
+perlDreamer | I've fixed the Survey bug | 20:43 |
+perlDreamer | it was a 1-line fix | 20:44 |
+perlDreamer | now I have to yard out 50-100 lines of alert and debug code... | 20:44 |
+perlDreamer | maybe I should check it in IE6, too | 20:46 |
+perlDreamer | are there any safari-using devs who could check out a JS patch for me? | 20:46 |
+perlDreamer | wait | 20:46 |
+perlDreamer | I... | 20:46 |
+perlDreamer | no, my VM is out of disk space | 20:47 |
+perlDreamer | still need a safari-using dev | 20:47 |
daviddelikat | I can peak | 20:47 |
daviddelikat | is this a url peak or an install and test peak? | 20:47 |
+perlDreamer | install and test peek | 20:47 |
daviddelikat | soryr, no time | 20:48 |
+perlDreamer | no swet | 20:48 |
+perlDreamer | sweat | 20:48 |
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+patspam | perlDreamer: actually i lie, it has a basement.. does that qualify as 2 storeys? | 22:05 |
+perlDreamer | no | 22:05 |
+perlDreamer | storeys are above ground | 22:05 |
daviddelikat | EMS Submissions are functional | 22:06 |
daviddelikat | WooHoo! | 22:06 |
+perlDreamer | all right! | 22:06 |
daviddelikat | its only 1.5 weeks late | 22:06 |
+perlDreamer | what's the secret sauce for hoverhelp over JSON/XHR? | 22:07 |
daviddelikat | style sheet | 22:07 |
+perlDreamer | cool | 22:07 |
daviddelikat | I had wq-hoverhelp.js but not wq-hoverhelp.css | 22:07 |
daviddelikat | now I have to get the activity to commit changes... | 22:08 |
daviddelikat | so if an activity returns 'WAITING' does it come back with the same session? | 22:09 |
+perlDreamer | no | 22:12 |
+perlDreamer | if you need persistent data, store it in the Workflow Instance's scratch | 22:12 |
daviddelikat | I was trying to decide if I should commit when I return waiting or just when I return done | 22:12 |
daviddelikat | I think it should commit in both cases | 22:13 |
+perlDreamer | I don't know what you're trying to do, but in most cases "commit" happens way before any kind of post-processing or approval | 22:13 |
daviddelikat | because there is no particular connection between the items created | 22:13 |
daviddelikat | the submission is approved, and an EMSTicket record needs to be created | 22:14 |
+perlDreamer | that sounds like it should be an autocommit | 22:14 |
daviddelikat | if I process more than one row should I auto commit each row or just at the end? | 22:15 |
+perlDreamer | think about how a user might want to handle rolling back version tags to undo a commit | 22:16 |
daviddelikat | ooooh good catch | 22:16 |
daviddelikat | probably one at a time | 22:16 |
daviddelikat | thanks | 22:17 |
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wgGuest72 | hi guys | 22:51 |
@Haarg | greetings | 22:51 |
@preaction | hi | 22:51 |
wgGuest72 | i am really new to webgui | 22:52 |
wgGuest72 | and am impressed by the sites that is running it right now | 22:52 |
wgGuest72 | want to try it | 22:52 |
wgGuest72 | but wont install | 22:52 |
wgGuest72 | any ideas? | 22:52 |
@preaction | what won't install? | 22:53 |
wgGuest72 | i wanna start off using my wamp server | 22:53 |
@preaction | debian package? perhaps try the vmware instance? | 22:53 |
@preaction | ah | 22:53 |
@preaction | so a source install | 22:53 |
wgGuest72 | yes | 22:53 |
wgGuest72 | am i doing something wrong | 22:54 |
@preaction | what is happening? | 22:54 |
wgGuest72 | or everything wrong? | 22:54 |
@preaction | http://www.webgui.org/community-wiki/source-install <- here's an.. okay.. document i keep meaning to update | 22:54 |
+perlDreamer | that document is pretty accurate | 22:55 |
+perlDreamer | I keep using it with no problems | 22:55 |
wgGuest72 | ok | 22:55 |
wgGuest72 | i will go there right away | 22:55 |
@preaction | yeah, if you skip the parts about compiling the crap you already have | 22:55 |
@preaction | it clutters the real instructions, in my opinion | 22:55 |
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@preaction | start with the big header that says "WebGUI" | 22:55 |
+perlDreamer | maybe we need a "distribution" install page | 22:55 |
wgGuest72 | oh so perl is required for it to run? | 22:56 |
+perlDreamer | yes | 22:56 |
@preaction | yes | 22:56 |
+perlDreamer | it is not a Java or PHP or .NET application | 22:56 |
@preaction | it's a mod_perl system | 22:56 |
@preaction | oh, wait, wamp | 22:57 |
@preaction | that's windows, no? | 22:57 |
wgGuest72 | yes | 22:57 |
@preaction | you're going to be better off trying the vmware appliance on http://getwebgui.org | 22:57 |
wgGuest72 | ok wait..i have a web server | 22:57 |
wgGuest72 | so what files do i need to get it up and running | 22:58 |
+perlDreamer | running Linux, Unix, Solaris, FreeBSD, MacOS X? | 22:58 |
wgGuest72 | hmm | 22:58 |
@preaction | do you have command-line access to that web server? | 22:58 |
wgGuest72 | no i havent had a reason to use that | 22:58 |
wgGuest72 | so i guess i have more problems than i thought ..lol | 22:59 |
@preaction | well, that's really the only one. | 22:59 |
@preaction | but vmware player is free, and the vmware appliance is really easy to use | 22:59 |
+perlDreamer | preaction is right, try the VMWare appliance if you want to try WebGUI on windows | 22:59 |
@preaction | (you just start it up and then visit the right IP in your web browser) | 22:59 |
@preaction | otherwise demo.webgui.org works as well | 23:00 |
@preaction | well, for 24hrs at least | 23:00 |
xdanger | Translating is hard =) | 23:00 |
+perlDreamer | if you need help with terms, xdanger, we can help | 23:00 |
+perlDreamer | and kudos for translating! | 23:00 |
wgGuest72 | hmm | 23:00 |
wgGuest72 | ok great guys | 23:00 |
wgGuest72 | now these is a community | 23:01 |
xdanger | perlDreamer: I'm having hard time translating the term Asset. There is now direct translation.. | 23:01 |
xdanger | s/is now/is not/ | 23:02 |
+perlDreamer | How about "resource", or "item" ? | 23:02 |
@preaction | part? | 23:03 |
@preaction | object? | 23:03 |
+perlDreamer | Piece | 23:03 |
+perlDreamer | we should add those to the context for "Asset" in the main, English i18n | 23:03 |
@preaction | probably be a good idea | 23:04 |
+perlDreamer | I'm on it | 23:04 |
@preaction | but the single word "asset" is everywhere | 23:04 |
@preaction | but every little bit helps | 23:04 |
+perlDreamer | have you had a chance to think about the skipNotification thing, preaction? | 23:04 |
xdanger | item translates too closely to physical object | 23:05 |
+perlDreamer | that's how we think of them, xdanger | 23:05 |
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xdanger | but it translates to object, stuff, part | 23:06 |
+perlDreamer | yes | 23:06 |
xdanger | it's not something that any finnish will understand | 23:06 |
xdanger | =) | 23:06 |
+perlDreamer | ah | 23:06 |
xdanger | Piece might work.. | 23:07 |
+perlDreamer | in that case, you'll have to pick something that doesn't translate directly, than Finn's will understand. | 23:07 |
xdanger | Piece/part | 23:07 |
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@preaction | perlDreamer: no. i got some crappy-looking e-mails that appear to be from the Wiki though, so it at least works | 23:07 |
xdanger | like a part for the motor | 23:07 |
+perlDreamer | it works, you just can't ever turn it off | 23:08 |
@preaction | you mean skipNotification? | 23:09 |
+perlDreamer | yes | 23:09 |
CIA-53 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * re20223c / lib/WebGUI/Shop/Pay.pm : Remove debug code. - http://bit.ly/1VKHPz | 23:09 |
CIA-53 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * ra51d693 / lib/WebGUI/i18n/English/Asset.pm : Better define the word, "Asset" in the i18n. - http://bit.ly/2QkkEp | 23:09 |
CIA-53 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r0e70378 / lib/WebGUI/i18n/English/ShipDriver_USPS.pm : Clarify how the insurance rate table works. - http://bit.ly/2rYsYd | 23:09 |
@preaction | setSkipNotification doesn't work? | 23:09 |
+perlDreamer | maybe you could reread my email? I described how it's broken in there | 23:09 |
wgGuest72 | guys is the right one | 23:10 |
wgGuest72 | http://www.vmware.com/appliances/directory/1296 | 23:10 |
@preaction | ah, i haven't been checking e-mail because it means i have to perform the tasks outlined | 23:10 |
@preaction | wgGuest72: lord no, it's on sourceforge, one sec | 23:11 |
wgGuest72 | ok | 23:11 |
@preaction | it IS webgui, it's just very very old | 23:11 |
+perlDreamer | isn't it time to build a new one, for 7.7? | 23:11 |
@preaction | we have one, just not there | 23:11 |
wgGuest72 | ok | 23:11 |
xdanger | btw. has anyone implemented a resource reservation system? | 23:12 |
@preaction | here's one for 7.6, http://sourceforge.net/projects/pbwebgui/files/VMWare%20Appliances/WebGUI%207.6.20%20_%20WRE%200.9.2%20_%20CentOS%205/webgui-7.6.20-wre-0.9.2-centos-5.zip/download | 23:12 |
wgGuest72 | i use inmotionhosting..would anyone know if theysupport web gui | 23:12 |
@preaction | it's 1.2G, just a warning | 23:12 |
+perlDreamer | I've planned one, but not built it yet, xdanger | 23:12 |
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wgGuest72 | great..am downloading as we speak | 23:13 |
+perlDreamer | xdanger, do you want me to email you what I've planned? | 23:14 |
+perlDreamer | it's fairly rough | 23:14 |
xdanger | I have a possible client that would require a reservation system for their truck washing service | 23:14 |
xdanger | sure | 23:14 |
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wgGuest72 | guys i will be back tomorrow.. | 23:17 |
wgGuest72 | wanna be part of this community.. | 23:17 |
wgGuest72 | thanks for ur help so far | 23:17 |
+perlDreamer | You're welcome :) | 23:18 |
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@preaction | bout time we got some props | 23:18 |
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+perlDreamer | props? Are those like assets? | 23:19 |
@preaction | props respect kudos recognition high five mad props | 23:20 |
SDuensin | Someone needs to warn wgGuest72 that you already have a #1 fan. | 23:26 |
SynQ | morning | 23:28 |
SynQ | ;) | 23:28 |
SynQ | due to frequent requests by some people (patspam, joeri) I'm picking up wre development | 23:28 |
SynQ | is git version 1.5.6 new enough for me? | 23:28 |
+patspam | morning SynQ! | 23:29 |
+perlDreamer | that'll do it, SynQ | 23:29 |
SynQ | heya patspam | 23:29 |
SynQ | how it the usa doing? | 23:29 |
+patspam | but 1.6.x would be even better | 23:29 |
SynQ | well | 23:30 |
SynQ | if I can use the 'out of the box' version | 23:30 |
SynQ | for debian lenny | 23:30 |
SynQ | I'm quite satisfied | 23:30 |
@Haarg | it will work just fine, but whenever i use old versions i run into options that are missing | 23:30 |
+patspam | yeah me too! | 23:31 |
SynQ | ubuntu has 1.6.3 | 23:31 |
@Haarg | but the file formats are all compatible | 23:31 |
SynQ | I doubt I'm going to use very much of the options | 23:31 |
@preaction | you might be surprised once you find out how useful they are ;) | 23:31 |
SynQ | ok | 23:32 |
SynQ | we'll see | 23:32 |
SynQ | I'll get cracking on wre 0.9.4 then | 23:32 |
SynQ | since I am not the one who is going to tackle the 64bit stuff 1.x is not for me | 23:33 |
+perlDreamer | SynQ: will you be addressing the bug that was assigned to you? | 23:33 |
SynQ | that I will | 23:33 |
SynQ | and some others too | 23:33 |
@Haarg | git checkout --track is always the option i miss when using git 1.5.x | 23:34 |
+perlDreamer | Could someone please curse for me, for about 30 seconds? | 23:36 |
@preaction | depends on what i'm cursing you for | 23:37 |
+perlDreamer | for bad error checking, and not writing enough tests | 23:37 |
@preaction | bah, happens to the best of us | 23:38 |
@preaction | JT did one just the other day that you fixed, committed without even testing from the UI | 23:38 |
+perlDreamer | that's why I wrote the git pre-commit hook | 23:39 |
SynQ | having others curse for you is lame | 23:39 |
@preaction | i did one a while ago, the email that gets sent out for the wiki has the wrong user | 23:39 |
* perlDreamer will never write another syntax error again that gets committed | 23:39 |
@preaction | at least, i don't thin... oh wait wait, that was JT that edited that wiki page, hence "Admin" | 23:39 |
@preaction | or else it was spectre that sent the message | 23:40 |
@preaction | anyway, i think something's wrong | 23:40 |
SynQ | perlDreamer: cursing done | 23:41 |
SynQ | it was hard, but I made it through that 30 seconds | 23:41 |
+perlDreamer | thanks, man | 23:41 |
+perlDreamer | I hope Emma didn't have to hear that | 23:41 |
+perlDreamer | it would blister her tender young ears | 23:41 |
SynQ | nope | 23:44 |
SynQ | she is asleep | 23:44 |
SynQ | so is Tessa | 23:44 |
SynQ | I have allready updated quite some packages | 23:45 |
SynQ | like libjpeg wich is now at version 7 (used to be 6b) | 23:45 |
SynQ | and apache and graphviz | 23:45 |
+perlDreamer | make sure you add Locales::Country | 23:47 |
+perlDreamer | and any other new ones from testEnvironment | 23:47 |
SynQ | I won't do 7.8 requirements in 0.9.4 | 23:48 |
SynQ | for that I will create a different WRE | 23:48 |
SynQ | right now I'm only updating 0.9.3 to something that isn't broken on my systems | 23:49 |
SynQ | cause 0.9.3 still uses some system libraries | 23:49 |
SynQ | which isn't right | 23:49 |
SynQ | and which makes it break on debian lenny with all packages updated | 23:50 |
SynQ | I'm after my own itch today | 23:50 |
* perlDreamer passes SynQ some Calamine lotion | 23:50 |
* SynQ chops of some of his aloe vera to mix with that | 23:51 |
@preaction | it's always going to need some system libs, like libc | 23:51 |
SynQ | but not like openssl libraries | 23:52 |
@preaction | i'd like to know what the WRE does that the python xml parsers don't like | 23:52 |
@preaction | or App::Nopaste | 23:52 |
SynQ | perl5.10.1 ? | 23:54 |
SynQ | would you like that? | 23:54 |
@preaction | indeed | 23:54 |
@preaction | fixes Test::Class issues | 23:54 |
SynQ | ok | 23:55 |
SynQ | that is going in | 23:55 |
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xdanger | In the v2 of the admin console spec the edit function is under dropdown menu from the options of the asset? 99% of the time user wants to edit the asset, so shouldn't it be visible all the time? | 01:11 |
@preaction | xdanger: post your comments to the thread, i'm in-and-out and can't keep track of things right now | 01:12 |
CIA-53 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * rf9d97f2 / (2 files in 2 dirs): Always recreate the listener for the question and answer buttons, since their arguments change. Fixes bug #10985. - http://bit.ly/2vSuWx | 01:13 |
CIA-53 | webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.7 * re329f99 / (2 files in 2 dirs): Always recreate the listener for the question and answer buttons, since their arguments change. Fixes bug #10985. - http://bit.ly/4cUwBV | 01:13 |
+perlDreamer | woot! More javascript | 01:13 |
* perlDreamer is on a roll | 01:13 |
* preaction butters perlDreamer | 01:13 |
+perlDreamer | ew | 01:14 |
+perlDreamer | preaction, /me is going to commit the skipNotification code | 01:14 |
@preaction | k | 01:14 |
+perlDreamer | you can review it from repo sometime before 7.8.5 in 13 days? | 01:15 |
@preaction | yeah, i've kept your e-mail unread. monday i'll be catching up on everythig | 01:15 |
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+perlDreamer | howdy, xdanger | 22:40 |
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CIA-53 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r60d8ce3 / (4 files in 4 dirs): Fix name typos in the shopSaleNotificationGroupId. Fixes bug #11207 - http://bit.ly/2htwWJ | 23:15 |
CIA-53 | webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.7 * r942975d / (5 files in 4 dirs): Fix name typos in the shopSaleNotificationGroupId. Fixes bug #11207 - http://bit.ly/2L3Dbj | 23:15 |
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CIA-53 | webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.7 * r1028e37 / lib/WebGUI/Shop/Admin.pm : Supply a value, and a default value for Shop/Admin. - http://bit.ly/4dN8ZF | 01:33 |
CIA-53 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * rc3727be / lib/WebGUI/Shop/Admin.pm : Supply a value, and a default value for Shop/Admin. - http://bit.ly/1B9Snh | 01:33 |
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+perlDreamer | in git, is it possible to undo a branch merge after it's been committed? | 01:52 |
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CIA-53 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r0aab1c1 / (3 files in 2 dirs): Fix POD whitespace issues in the EMS. - http://bit.ly/1ZMkp2 | 02:29 |
CIA-53 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r924686b / (2 files in 2 dirs): Fix more POD whitespace problems in the EMS. - http://bit.ly/28b1A2 | 02:29 |
CIA-53 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * rfc68756 / (2 files in 2 dirs): Update tests for changes to skipNotification. - http://bit.ly/2uTTqi | 02:29 |
+patspam | nasty bug! | 02:39 |
+patspam | anyone know what hangs around between requests in a modperl instance? | 02:41 |
+perlDreamer | the entire perl memory? | 02:44 |
+perlDreamer | patspam: do you know how to revert branches? | 02:44 |
+patspam | yes | 02:44 |
+patspam | just committed locally? | 02:44 |
+perlDreamer | no | 02:45 |
+patspam | ouch | 02:45 |
+perlDreamer | yes | 02:45 |
+perlDreamer | I've spent 1.5 hours fixing broken code and tests, and it's time to cut bait | 02:45 |
+patspam | probably not too hard actually | 02:45 |
+patspam | the merge commit is conceptually just another commit in the branch's timeline | 02:46 |
+patspam | it's just special in that it has more than 1 parent | 02:46 |
+perlDreamer | ah, that | 02:46 |
+perlDreamer | that's where the -m comes in | 02:46 |
+patspam | if it was only committed locally you'd obviously just reset HEAD to point to the pre-merge commit | 02:47 |
+patspam | but since you can't re-write the history now that everyone else can see it | 02:47 |
+patspam | I would think the sensible thing to do is just check in a new commit that results in all the files being in their pre-merge state | 02:48 |
+perlDreamer | isn't that what git revert -m will do for me? | 02:49 |
+perlDreamer | -m takes a parent number | 02:49 |
+perlDreamer | I just don't know which one is which | 02:49 |
+patspam | yeah that looks like the right command | 02:49 |
+patspam | gitk is good for visualising the history | 02:49 |
+patspam | or git-reflog | 02:50 |
+patspam | reflog will show you where the branch tip was before the merge | 02:50 |
+perlDreamer | gitk is showing me the parents | 02:53 |
+perlDreamer | which one is "1"? :) | 02:53 |
CIA-53 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r7aa60c7 / docs/upgrades/upgrade_7.8.3-7.8.4.pl : | 02:53 |
CIA-53 | webgui: Reverting EMS Submission Form. | 02:53 |
CIA-53 | webgui: This reverts commit 69a997aff9233c4e4edc3c67ec8f70af25b1ce64. - http://bit.ly/3i2omp | 02:53 |
CIA-53 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r4597dac / (6 files in 3 dirs): | 02:53 |
CIA-53 | webgui: Reverting EMS Submissions. | 02:53 |
CIA-53 | webgui: This reverts commit 6932ddfeb3e1baf52d0e91280732f8d893e7b841. - http://bit.ly/40hlpn | 02:53 |
+patspam | Survey's ExpressionEngine has a modperl instance caching bug, just took me about a day to find it | 02:55 |
+perlDreamer | ouch | 02:55 |
+patspam | gotta try to write a test case before i fix it | 02:55 |
+perlDreamer | that's not going to be fun | 02:56 |
+perlDreamer | going to use Mech? | 02:56 |
+patspam | only if i have to! | 02:56 |
+patspam | if i can recreate the bug in a regular perl process that'll be enough | 02:57 |
+perlDreamer | true | 02:57 |
+perlDreamer | I fixed some Survey JS bugs over the last few days | 02:57 |
+patspam | yeah the front-end ain't great | 02:58 |
+perlDreamer | it's better now, and i18n'ed | 02:58 |
+perlDreamer | found an example of branch revert | 03:03 |
+perlDreamer | http://www.gitready.com/intermediate/2009/03/16/rolling-back-changes-with-revert.html | 03:03 |
+perlDreamer | actually, the front-end bug was just cosmetic, since you can drag and drop stuff where you need it | 03:03 |
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CIA-53 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r3c985a5 / (17 files in 10 dirs): | 04:47 |
CIA-53 | webgui: Finish reverting EMS Submissions. | 04:47 |
CIA-53 | webgui: This reverts commit aab3a74026d28a69de00bcd250f5b697df70d802. - http://bit.ly/4fbcYF | 04:47 |
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CIA-53 | webgui: Patrick Donelan webgui-7.7 * r2be2ab4 / (3 files in 3 dirs): | 05:31 |
CIA-53 | webgui: One-line fix for Survey ExpressionEngine bug that took over a day to find. | 05:31 |
CIA-53 | webgui: One of the file-scoped lexicals in ExpressionEngine wasn't being initialised, | 05:31 |
CIA-53 | webgui: which meant that tagged data was being cached across repeated engine runs | 05:31 |
CIA-53 | webgui: (including, would you believe, across modperl page requests). | 05:31 |
CIA-53 | webgui: The fix includes tests. - http://bit.ly/c3cEV | 05:31 |
CIA-53 | webgui: Patrick Donelan master * rbcd9994 / (3 files in 3 dirs): | 05:31 |
CIA-53 | webgui: One-line fix for Survey ExpressionEngine bug that took over a day to find. | 05:31 |
CIA-53 | webgui: One of the file-scoped lexicals in ExpressionEngine wasn't being initialised, | 05:31 |
CIA-53 | webgui: which meant that tagged data was being cached across repeated engine runs | 05:31 |
CIA-53 | webgui: (including, would you believe, across modperl page requests). | 05:31 |
CIA-53 | webgui: The fix includes tests. - http://bit.ly/6Y35B | 05:31 |
* patspam rejoices in bug fixedness | 05:31 |
+perlDreamer | patspam, that hurts. | 05:31 |
+perlDreamer | yeah, and it makes perfect sense | 05:32 |
+perlDreamer | it's almost like the parallel cache problems that we fixed in the Shop | 05:33 |
+perlDreamer | patspam, would you hate me if I ask you to revert those until after I finish the releases? | 05:33 |
+perlDreamer | it'll mess up the tagging | 05:33 |
+patspam | for sure | 05:34 |
+patspam | sorry didn't realise you were releasing | 05:34 |
+perlDreamer | it's an emergency, off-time release | 05:35 |
+perlDreamer | many bad Shop bugs | 05:35 |
CIA-53 | webgui: Patrick Donelan master * r5899fa4 / (3 files in 3 dirs): | 05:38 |
CIA-53 | webgui: Revert "One-line fix for Survey ExpressionEngine bug that took over a day to find." | 05:38 |
CIA-53 | webgui: This reverts commit bcd99945ca343db94e40676dec749c8c4744f6dd. - http://bit.ly/25a1kt | 05:38 |
CIA-53 | webgui: Patrick Donelan webgui-7.7 * r51c987d / (3 files in 3 dirs): | 05:38 |
CIA-53 | webgui: Revert "One-line fix for Survey ExpressionEngine bug that took over a day to find." | 05:38 |
CIA-53 | webgui: This reverts commit 2be2ab4428988917d11d33bec801a7264aa1fd5e. - http://bit.ly/y0kJY | 05:38 |
+perlDreamer | one down, one to go | 05:55 |
CIA-53 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * rec38f50 / (4 files in 4 dirs): Ready for 7.8.5 development cycle. - http://bit.ly/3w7HFv | 06:00 |
+patspam | perlDreamer - I'm about to crash out, are you cool to un-revert that Survey bugfix for me? | 06:06 |
+patspam | once the release is done, that is | 06:07 |
+perlDreamer | I'm not sure how to | 06:07 |
+perlDreamer | do I just revert the reversion | 06:07 |
+patspam | what's the ETA on the release? | 06:07 |
+perlDreamer | 2.5 hours more | 06:07 |
+perlDreamer | I have to release both branches | 06:08 |
@preaction | you can cherry-pick the original revision again | 06:08 |
+perlDreamer | ah, cool | 06:08 |
+perlDreamer | it's covered, patspam | 06:08 |
+perlDreamer | you are go for crash | 06:08 |
+patspam | sweet, thanks! | 06:08 |
* patspam goes crash | 06:08 |
+perlDreamer | how's DC, preaction? | 06:08 |
@preaction | much fun indeed | 06:09 |
@preaction | thinking about moving out here | 06:09 |
+perlDreamer | wow | 06:09 |
+perlDreamer | that is fun | 06:09 |
@preaction | lots of hot single chicks, nice locale, good public trans, just expensive as all get-out | 06:10 |
@preaction | but then, this could be 4 drinks talking | 06:10 |
* perlDreamer advises to look for nice, single chicks. Hot ones can burn you | 06:10 |
@preaction | but not really, cuz i was thinking like this before 4 drinks | 06:10 |
+perlDreamer | but I'm also an old, married man | 06:11 |
@preaction | oh no, no need to warn me there | 06:11 |
@preaction | Hot, Smart, Sane, pick two | 06:11 |
@preaction | (or Sexy Smart Sane, if you like alliteration) | 06:11 |
@preaction | so 7.8.4 is an emergency bugfix for the Shop bug? | 06:12 |
+perlDreamer | yes | 06:12 |
+perlDreamer | so is 7.7.25 | 06:12 |
@preaction | k | 06:12 |
+perlDreamer | we do know now that Spectre cannot handle 10,000 emails quickly | 06:13 |
@preaction | saw the panic going on at TGC | 06:13 |
@preaction | heh, i knew that ;) | 06:13 |
@preaction | 40,000 takes 3 days | 06:13 |
+perlDreamer | yeah, I've probably single handedly sunk TGC | 06:13 |
@preaction | even after maxing out sendmail settings | 06:13 |
@preaction | oh pshaw | 06:13 |
@preaction | the naysayers can go screw | 06:13 |
@preaction | it was 5 orders, maybe | 06:14 |
+perlDreamer | that's the drinks talking | 06:14 |
@preaction | now you're just being hurtful, but i'll let that go | 06:15 |
+perlDreamer | it's been a rough day, preaction, I'm sorry | 06:15 |
+perlDreamer | I was supposed to build the International USPS shipping plugin | 06:15 |
+perlDreamer | but instead spent it cleaning up bugs | 06:15 |
@preaction | no worries, relax, it's late. do what you need to and take a day off | 06:16 |
+perlDreamer | I may do that | 06:20 |
+perlDreamer | or half a day, anyway | 06:20 |
+perlDreamer | holy crap! | 06:22 |
+perlDreamer | world's most expensive board game | 06:22 |
daviddelikat | ok heres my test script: http://webgui.pastebin.com/d1b6c1ee6 | 06:23 |
daviddelikat | think it'll work? | 06:23 |
+perlDreamer | yes | 06:25 |
+perlDreamer | but how will we tell if it passed or failed? | 06:26 |
daviddelikat | by looking at the big.test.log | 06:26 |
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+perlDreamer | also, have a look at http://smoke.plainblack.com/ | 06:26 |
daviddelikat | ideally it would email the log or a link to it | 06:26 |
+perlDreamer | Haarg modified buildbot to make that site | 06:27 |
daviddelikat | so there is an automatic test system... | 06:28 |
daviddelikat | quite amazing | 06:28 |
+perlDreamer | yes, but it's broken | 06:28 |
daviddelikat | I like the way the little boxes work | 06:28 |
+perlDreamer | preaction has been wanting to build one in perl called Cradle | 06:28 |
daviddelikat | whats broken? | 06:29 |
+perlDreamer | I don't know the details, but it's not making reports anymore | 06:29 |
+perlDreamer | we can ask Mr. Haarg tomorrow what's up | 06:33 |
daviddelikat | my little tester is having lots of failures... | 06:33 |
daviddelikat | I did not restart the servers though... | 06:33 |
daviddelikat | or do a reset. | 06:34 |
+perlDreamer | since you did an addsite, you shouldn't need to | 06:34 |
daviddelikat | I won't be around tomorrow | 06:34 |
+perlDreamer | I'll ask Haarg, or you could post to the dev list | 06:34 |
daviddelikat | I think that I definitely should have reset the servers | 06:35 |
daviddelikat | getting lots of spectre errors | 06:35 |
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+perlDreamer | what's the good word, tavisto? | 06:43 |
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CIA-53 | webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.7 * re797e89 / docs/create.sql : Preparing for 7.7.25 release. - http://bit.ly/1T9tC4 | 06:47 |
+perlDreamer | yay, it's done | 07:13 |
CIA-53 | webgui: Patrick Donelan master * r804dbcf / (3 files in 3 dirs): | 07:14 |
CIA-53 | webgui: One-line fix for Survey ExpressionEngine bug that took over a day to find. | 07:14 |
CIA-53 | webgui: One of the file-scoped lexicals in ExpressionEngine wasn't being initialised, | 07:14 |
CIA-53 | webgui: which meant that tagged data was being cached across repeated engine runs | 07:14 |
CIA-53 | webgui: (including, would you believe, across modperl page requests). | 07:14 |
CIA-53 | webgui: The fix includes tests. - http://bit.ly/2RC7LQ | 07:14 |
CIA-53 | webgui: Patrick Donelan webgui-7.7 * ra396584 / (3 files in 3 dirs): | 07:14 |
CIA-53 | webgui: One-line fix for Survey ExpressionEngine bug that took over a day to find. | 07:14 |
CIA-53 | webgui: One of the file-scoped lexicals in ExpressionEngine wasn't being initialised, | 07:14 |
CIA-53 | webgui: which meant that tagged data was being cached across repeated engine runs | 07:14 |
CIA-53 | webgui: (including, would you believe, across modperl page requests). | 07:14 |
CIA-53 | webgui: The fix includes tests. - http://bit.ly/2AbNQA | 07:14 |
CIA-53 | webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.7 * rc71a910 / (4 files in 4 dirs): Ready for 7.7.26 development cycle. - http://bit.ly/1azGoE | 07:14 |
+perlDreamer | releases are all done | 07:37 |
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+BartJol | preaction? | 12:12 |
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wgGuest78 | www.webgui.org | 13:35 |
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SquOnk | Hi everyone | 16:05 |
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SDuensin | Morning | 16:29 |
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+BartJol | SDuensin: those microsoft citations are better now | 17:58 |
SDuensin | Really? They changed them? | 17:58 |
+BartJol | yeah, unfortunately | 17:59 |
+BartJol | but we have the screenshots | 17:59 |
SDuensin | Just proves how stupid they were. :-) | 17:59 |
+BartJol | can we use those for blackmailing them? | 18:00 |
SDuensin | Give 'em to /. | 18:00 |
+BartJol | ah, that might be good | 18:01 |
+BartJol | but they're not my copyright | 18:01 |
SDuensin | Yea, MS certainly has the copyright on stupid. | 18:03 |
+BartJol | well, there are different versions, which fall under differnt licences | 18:07 |
CIA-53 | webgui: JT Smith master * r1304bf3 / (docs/changelog/7.x.x.txt lib/WebGUI/Form/Captcha.pm): The captcha form control had it's built in styles removed in favor of two classes: "wg-captchaForm" and "wg-captchaImage" - http://bit.ly/tz1kc | 18:11 |
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+BartJol | well, rfe rejected, with the comment what I should ask, a rfe is quickly committed | 18:34 |
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CIA-53 | wrebuild: JT Smith master * r505ce40 / (wre/docs/changelog.txt wre/sbin/wreconsole.pl): Fixed wreconsole crashes (#11208) - http://bit.ly/3xA6y5 | 19:10 |
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+perlDreamer | morning, folks | 20:35 |
@Haarg | morning | 20:37 |
+perlDreamer | Haarg, is the github repo okay this morning? | 20:39 |
@Haarg | that tag may be off | 20:41 |
+perlDreamer | I'll look into it | 20:49 |
+perlDreamer | any suggestions on where to put the git pre-commit hook into the repository? | 20:49 |
+perlDreamer | I'm thinking a top level dev directory | 20:49 |
+perlDreamer | we can put the perltidy RC file, the Perl::Critic config file in there too | 20:49 |
SquOnk | perlDreamer: Hi there | 20:50 |
@Haarg | i think we want to leave the perltidy file where it is | 20:50 |
@Haarg | so it gets used automatically | 20:50 |
SquOnk | perlDreamer, Haarg: How's the SynCon encoding bug doing these days? | 20:50 |
@Haarg | no real progress | 20:50 |
SquOnk | :( | 20:50 |
SquOnk | Haarg: Have you pinpointed more or less what the problem is? | 20:51 |
@Haarg | i know why it happens | 20:51 |
@Haarg | but if i change that i know it is going to break another case that was fixed in the past | 20:51 |
@Haarg | i need to get the tests working, but right now i can't get it to load a file that is using cyrillic | 20:53 |
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+perlDreamer | Haarg, I'll make the directory, put the git hook in there, and update wgd to ignore the whole directory when doing a dist. | 20:54 |
+perlDreamer | we can add/move stuff in there later if we wish | 20:54 |
@Haarg | i may write another commit hook that does the same thing but only for files modified in the commit | 20:55 |
+perlDreamer | that would run faster | 20:55 |
+perlDreamer | just be sure you don't put 2>&1 at the end of it, like I did | 20:55 |
+perlDreamer | I'll hold off and let you do it, then | 20:56 |
@Haarg | well, i think it would be better to just use prove | 20:56 |
+perlDreamer | probably | 20:57 |
SDuensin | Use: 2>&1 > justincase.log | 21:23 |
+perlDreamer | no, Haarg is right. prove is designed for aggregating and summarizing TAP data | 21:23 |
+perlDreamer | what I did was just silly | 21:23 |
CIA-53 | webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.7 * rc47bc2d / (2 files in 2 dirs): Update tree nav template to open ancestors, and self. Fixes bug #11134 - http://bit.ly/1rGFHq | 21:24 |
CIA-53 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r274e82e / (2 files in 2 dirs): Update tree nav template to open ancestors, and self. Fixes bug #11134 - http://bit.ly/10RZjD | 21:24 |
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CIA-53 | webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.7 * rb8137dc / (docs/changelog/7.x.x.txt lib/WebGUI/Operation/Group.pm): Set a default for groups in addGroupsToGroupSave. Fixes bug #11203 - http://bit.ly/5s8mc | 21:34 |
CIA-53 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * rc10363b / (docs/changelog/7.x.x.txt lib/WebGUI/Operation/Group.pm): Set a default for groups in addGroupsToGroupSave. Fixes bug #11203 - http://bit.ly/2CnaH2 | 21:34 |
+perlDreamer | I'm going running | 21:47 |
SDuensin | Too good not to share. http://failblog.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/epic-fail-security-check-fail.jpg | 22:05 |
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@tavisto | wow Sduesin, what type of websites are you visiting | 23:39 |
@tavisto | j/k I see the failblog | 23:39 |
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CIA-53 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r82e7e80 / (2 files in 2 dirs): Fix bug #11101. Folders from an earlier upgrade had their package flag set. - http://bit.ly/4iNPEd | 00:06 |
CIA-53 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * rd4ca728 / docs/upgrades/upgrade_7.8.4-7.8.5.pl : Reset isPackage and isDefault on every asset from the 7.6.35 to 7.7.17 upgrade. Fixes bug #11115 and #11106 - http://bit.ly/1VDVwt | 00:06 |
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SquOnk | I need to create a special Auth plugin. I understand a subclass of WebGUI::Auth is needed. What are the minimal set of methods needed? | 00:19 |
SquOnk | Is there any documentation on the subject I can read, besides WebGUI::Auth's source? | 00:19 |
+perlDreamer | not really | 00:19 |
+perlDreamer | and wg8 will obsolete your plugin | 00:19 |
SquOnk | perlDreamer: I can live with that :-) | 00:20 |
+perlDreamer | WebGUI::Auth is not really OO based | 00:20 |
+perlDreamer | it's more plugin based | 00:20 |
+perlDreamer | you probably need to implement ALL methods that Auth::WebGUI does | 00:20 |
SquOnk | perlDreamer: I see. | 00:20 |
SquOnk | perlDreamer: This bank is going to use WebGUI for it's banking application. We'll build an Asset to do so, but authentication must be done through some webservices they provide | 00:21 |
SquOnk | perlDreamer: Using LDAP is out of the question because the online banking users aren't there and "for your security" the only way to access that info is through the webservices. | 00:23 |
+perlDreamer | makes sense | 00:23 |
SquOnk | perlDreamer: So we're writing WebGUI::Auth::Bankname | 00:23 |
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+perlDreamer | SquOnk, dannymk is the only dev I know who has written an Auth plugin in the last 5 years | 00:55 |
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vayde | hey preaction, perlDreamer | 01:21 |
vayde | how you guys been? | 01:22 |
+perlDreamer | hey, vayde! | 01:22 |
vayde | long time no type | 01:22 |
vayde | what you been up to? | 01:22 |
+perlDreamer | lots of hacking | 01:22 |
+perlDreamer | I'm fulltime now | 01:22 |
vayde | awesome | 01:22 |
vayde | same outfit? | 01:22 |
+perlDreamer | no, working for myself now | 01:23 |
+perlDreamer | www.perldreamer.com | 01:23 |
vayde | congrats! | 01:23 |
vayde | that's awesome! | 01:23 |
+perlDreamer | thanks :) | 01:23 |
+perlDreamer | how 'bout yourself? | 01:24 |
vayde | still with US Bank | 01:24 |
vayde | I'm their chief apache/linux guy I guess you could say | 01:24 |
+perlDreamer | cool | 01:25 |
vayde | sorta the resident in hose open source dark lord | 01:25 |
vayde | they really should use webgui, but they have their own thing | 01:25 |
vayde | I'm so lucky to have worked briefly with PB before coming there | 01:26 |
+perlDreamer | they'll learn | 01:26 |
vayde | no, I doubt it. | 01:26 |
+perlDreamer | really? | 01:26 |
vayde | no, they'll move off perl to some sort of java thing | 01:26 |
vayde | with a cobol backend | 01:26 |
vayde | cos that's how the suits like to think | 01:26 |
vayde | so, I'm down recoving from surgery, and finally have time to play a bit with webgui again | 01:28 |
vayde | one problem, the wre tarball doesn't seem to have a wre.conf | 01:28 |
vayde | is there a standard/basic/example somewhere? | 01:28 |
+perlDreamer | I think everyone is using the wreconsole to build that nowadays | 01:29 |
+perlDreamer | but not being a big WRE user, I couldn't tell you one way or the other | 01:29 |
vayde | yeah, it won't start withot the conf | 01:29 |
vayde | mostly you build it from source yourself? | 01:29 |
+perlDreamer | yeah | 01:30 |
vayde | yeah, I'll probably just go do that | 01:30 |
vayde | easier | 01:30 |
+perlDreamer | I still run everything on Fedora | 01:30 |
+perlDreamer | for now | 01:30 |
+perlDreamer | It's starting to make me mad | 01:30 |
vayde | heh | 01:30 |
+perlDreamer | because their perl is so slow | 01:30 |
vayde | I have to support rhel at work, and I do, but I'll stay ubuntu at home | 01:30 |
vayde | so, when did you switch from kernel hacking to webgui support? | 01:31 |
+perlDreamer | kernel hacking? | 01:31 |
+perlDreamer | I was a chip designer | 01:31 |
vayde | oh yeah, right, that was it | 01:32 |
vayde | It's been a while man, | 01:32 |
+perlDreamer | I know | 01:32 |
vayde | and I'm still not all here. | 01:32 |
vayde | majorly cut up | 01:32 |
+perlDreamer | Why did you have surgery? | 01:32 |
vayde | severe apnea | 01:32 |
vayde | strangling 106 times per hour on average while I slept | 01:32 |
vayde | makes life.... unpleasant | 01:32 |
vayde | so my whole throat area has been reconstructed | 01:33 |
vayde | it's a mess | 01:33 |
+perlDreamer | good thing we're doing this via IRC instead of Skype | 01:33 |
vayde | heh, yeah, my speaking voice aint much atm | 01:33 |
vayde | I think I sound like a muppet | 01:33 |
+perlDreamer | Hey, maybe Henson Studios is hiring | 01:34 |
vayde | could be | 01:34 |
vayde | but I'd be lost without a bash shell | 01:35 |
+perlDreamer | Lots of bashing goes on with the Muppets | 01:36 |
vayde | rofl I stand corrected | 01:36 |
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+perlDreamer | man, getting international shipping data from the USPS is hard | 01:38 |
+perlDreamer | they just vomited this huge XML chunk back at me | 01:38 |
+perlDreamer | maybe Data::Dumper will help | 01:39 |
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David_ | hello i am trygin to upgrade 7.6.35 to 7.7.x and i am getting this error Adding account activation template to settings... DBD::mysql::st execute failed: Duplicate entry 'webguiAccountActivationTemplate' for key 1 at ../lib/WebGUI/SQL/ResultSet.pm line 137. | 03:59 |
David_ | anybody can help please | 03:59 |
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+perlDreamer | daviddelikat, daviddelikat1, I'm here early | 00:00 |
+perlDreamer | does anyone know how much an ITransact merchant account costs? | 00:08 |
CIA-53 | WebGUI: translation * r12401 /translations/German/German/Asset_EventManagementSystem.pm: Updating German on translation server | 00:38 |
CIA-53 | WebGUI: translation * r12402 /translations/German/German/Asset_Survey.pm: Updating German on translation server | 00:38 |
CIA-53 | WebGUI: translation * r12403 /translations/German/German/ (ShipDriver_UPS.pm ShipDriver_USPS.pm): Updating German on translation server | 00:53 |
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elnino | hi all. isn't fedora the beta of suse? | 05:57 |
@preaction | no, fedora is the beta of redhat | 05:57 |
elnino | oh. ok. thanks. | 05:58 |
elnino | all going well? | 05:58 |
elnino | umm. I went to webgui.org, clicked on download, clicked on "webgui runtime environment" and was redirected to http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=51417&package_id=148913 and got a blank screen in FF3. Bad link? or is sourceforge down? | 06:08 |
elnino | ie doens't work either. | 06:09 |
@preaction | seems like sf is down | 06:10 |
elnino | ok. thx. | 06:10 |
elnino | there is a fedora distribution for wre, right? | 06:14 |
elnino | that's all I wanted to know. | 06:14 |
@preaction | i'm not sure, but the redhat one should work | 06:14 |
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elnino | g'nite all! | 06:21 |
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+perlDreamer | daviddelikat2, daviddelikat3, I'm here for a bit | 04:16 |
+perlDreamer | patspam, I may be ready to join the Ubuntu throng | 04:17 |
@preaction | oooh | 04:17 |
+perlDreamer | I upgraded from FC10 to FC11 | 04:18 |
+perlDreamer | and it didn't do the whole upgrade | 04:18 |
+perlDreamer | GRUB was completely broken | 04:18 |
@preaction | weird | 04:18 |
+perlDreamer | and I had to hand upgrade 500 packages | 04:18 |
@preaction | ouch | 04:18 |
+perlDreamer | how was your week in DC, preaction? | 04:19 |
@preaction | had a lot of fun, got a lot of work done | 04:19 |
@preaction | exhausting but good | 04:19 |
@preaction | wrote a whole new way to recover passwords for the Alumni group, hopefully I can see if it meets JT's muster | 04:20 |
@preaction | it's a lot more intuitive than the one we have | 04:20 |
+perlDreamer | cool | 04:20 |
@preaction | and cleaner, code-wise | 04:20 |
+perlDreamer | sounds like it might be good for 8 | 04:20 |
@preaction | i'd hope for 7.9 if possible | 04:20 |
@preaction | i've also been exploring Flex, and there are some really interesting things here | 04:21 |
+perlDreamer | someone volunteered to help write macro tests | 04:21 |
+perlDreamer | Flex? | 04:21 |
+perlDreamer | like bison? | 04:21 |
+perlDreamer | yacc? | 04:21 |
@preaction | Flex == Flash for programmers | 04:21 |
+perlDreamer | Someone just put out a Hulu viewer in HTML 5 | 04:21 |
+perlDreamer | Flash could die | 04:21 |
+perlDreamer | and it would be good | 04:22 |
@preaction | nah, it won't | 04:22 |
@preaction | with AIR, flash moved to the desktop | 04:22 |
@preaction | they're working on a flash runtime for the iPhone | 04:22 |
@preaction | i agree that flash for video is pass?, but flash for games and/or internet applications is coming up | 04:22 |
@preaction | games not like little minigames, but full MMOs and FPSs and RTS and etc... | 04:23 |
+perlDreamer | you really think so? | 04:23 |
@preaction | yep | 04:23 |
@preaction | AIR works on linux, for example, even if the flash plugins do not | 04:24 |
@preaction | imagine desktop apps that interact with WebGUI sites | 04:24 |
@preaction | and a flash app for those who don't want to install the desktop app | 04:24 |
@preaction | and i would really really like to know why Ant just does not work on my system... | 04:27 |
+perlDreamer | I'd like to know why Flash doesn't work on my system | 04:28 |
@preaction | because Adobe are jerks | 04:28 |
+perlDreamer | my kids can't play the tweetsie train game anymore | 04:30 |
+perlDreamer | that is terrible | 04:30 |
+perlDreamer | very odd | 04:46 |
+perlDreamer | ah ha! | 04:47 |
+perlDreamer | the secret to flash support under FC11 is to remove libflashsupport | 04:47 |
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@preaction | that's a little bit counter-intuitive ;) | 05:00 |
+perlDreamer | oh no it isn't | 05:01 |
+perlDreamer | oh yes it is | 05:01 |
+perlDreamer | oh no it isn't | 05:01 |
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elnino | hi! | 05:14 |
elnino | this is beeen bugging me for a while, and I don't know if it's my system or not, search on cs JUST doesn't work. | 05:15 |
elnino | sorry, not cs, but a wiki | 05:15 |
elnino | I have a wiki called blogs | 05:15 |
elnino | and the search doesn't pick it up when I search blog or blogs | 05:15 |
elnino | do I have to do a reindex of a search or something? or ??? | 05:16 |
daviddelikat3 | well I just pushed the EMS sumbission system -- again | 06:22 |
daviddelikat3 | and it was SOME Bission | 06:22 |
daviddelikat3 | or was it SUB Mission | 06:23 |
daviddelikat3 | cant remember | 06:23 |
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+perlDreamer | let's pull and double check, just in case | 06:39 |
+perlDreamer | daviddelikat3, there are still dav::log calls in there... | 06:41 |
CIA-53 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r8568323 / lib/WebGUI/Workflow/Activity/CleanupEMSSubmissions.pm : Fix syntax errors. - http://bit.ly/1KYUdr | 06:48 |
+perlDreamer | also, there were bad symlinks checked in | 06:57 |
+perlDreamer | it's all cleaned up, and I'm rerunning the test suite to double check | 06:57 |
+perlDreamer | test suite is clean | 07:07 |
CIA-53 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r736166e / t/Search.t : Use the right test with the right comment. - http://bit.ly/1PASrQ | 07:07 |
CIA-53 | webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.7 * r9178de0 / t/Search.t : Use the right test with the right comment. - http://bit.ly/1opLVl | 07:07 |
CIA-53 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * rd8af803 / lib/WebGUI/Paginator.pm : Clarify POD for the setAlphabeticalKey method. - http://bit.ly/47z9XO | 08:11 |
CIA-53 | webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.7 * r1d9ec02 / (t/DatabaseLink.t t/lib/WebGUI/Test.pm): Test cleanup and tracking of Database Links. - http://bit.ly/2FRmxl | 08:43 |
CIA-53 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * rdbf86bb / (t/DatabaseLink.t t/lib/WebGUI/Test.pm): Test cleanup and tracking of Database Links. - http://bit.ly/2zm8eV | 08:43 |
CIA-53 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r1c20f13 / (lib/WebGUI/DatabaseLink.pm t/Macro/SQL.t): 100% coverage on t/Macro/SQL.t. Refactor DatabaseLink. - http://bit.ly/277Lgq | 08:54 |
CIA-53 | webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.7 * r50474a5 / (lib/WebGUI/DatabaseLink.pm t/Macro/SQL.t): 100% coverage on t/Macro/SQL.t. Refactor DatabaseLink. - http://bit.ly/yid5l | 08:54 |
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CIA-53 | WebGUI: translation * r12405 /translations/Dutch/Dutch/ (3 files): Updating Dutch on translation server | 11:54 |
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SDuensin | Morning. | 16:03 |
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+perlDreamer | good morning, webgui folks! | 18:01 |
SDuensin | Ugh. Not so loud. | 18:01 |
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@Haarg | morning perlDreamer | 18:04 |
+perlDreamer | had any SQL cleanup epiphanies, Haarg? | 18:05 |
@Haarg | my immediate thought about that was to have addToCleanup also accept sub references and add them to the cleanup code. but that won't be ideal if we want to do SQL in a lot of places. | 18:06 |
@Haarg | the other option is just to add a new sub for SQL cleanup | 18:08 |
SDuensin | SQL cleanup? Like no JSON in the DB? :-P | 18:08 |
+perlDreamer | this is just for tests, SDuensin | 18:20 |
SDuensin | Hey, I gotta get my shots in when I can! | 18:20 |
+perlDreamer | if we can remove every END block in all the tests, we can use a certain perl module to help us speed them up | 18:20 |
+perlDreamer | Haarg, having addToCleanup accept anonymous subs would not only handle SQL issues, but all other cleanup type stuff as well | 18:27 |
@Haarg | yeah, that was my thought | 18:27 |
+perlDreamer | although I don't know how much more of that we're going to need | 18:27 |
+perlDreamer | why wouldn't it work in lots of places? | 18:28 |
@Haarg | it would work, but if we need to run arbitrary sql in a lot of places it isn't ideal | 18:29 |
CIA-53 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r0873e7a / README : Remove file imported from UPS branch - http://bit.ly/ztt0F | 18:33 |
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+perlDreamer | morning, BartJol | 19:03 |
+BartJol | g'devening sir | 19:03 |
+perlDreamer | did you see we had a new person volunteer to start writing tests? | 19:06 |
+BartJol | yes lrobinson right? | 19:07 |
+perlDreamer | yeah! | 19:07 |
+BartJol | I know her from semthing... | 19:07 |
+perlDreamer | the email said, "Luke" | 19:08 |
+BartJol | oh | 19:08 |
+perlDreamer | but perhaps you're thinking crobinson? | 19:08 |
+BartJol | then I'm totally wrong | 19:08 |
+BartJol | perlDreamer: did you hear Joeri is daddy? | 19:11 |
+perlDreamer | I did hear that | 19:11 |
+perlDreamer | does the baby have a name? | 19:11 |
+BartJol | alas, no first news | 19:11 |
+BartJol | Elsa Sophie | 19:11 |
+BartJol | Zeestraten (leonie's family name) | 19:11 |
+perlDreamer | so she doesn't have Joeri's surname? | 19:12 |
+BartJol | nope | 19:13 |
+BartJol | but, don't worry, you won't be able to pronounce that either | 19:13 |
+perlDreamer | de Bruin is easy to pronounce | 19:13 |
dreamersgirl | :) | 19:13 |
dreamersgirl | Tell him congratulations if you see him! | 19:13 |
+BartJol | I will, not sure when, but he's online now | 19:15 |
+perlDreamer | maybe we could all chip in and send Joeri one of these: http://www.thinkgeek.com/geek-kids/newborn-infant/c754/ | 19:17 |
+BartJol | mmm | 19:17 |
+BartJol | dreamersgirl: Joeri sends his regards and thanks | 19:17 |
dreamersgirl | :) | 19:18 |
dreamersgirl | I like this one better: http://www.thinkgeek.com/tshirts-apparel/kids/59cc/ | 19:18 |
+BartJol | now he's of for dinner | 19:18 |
dreamersgirl | what is his handle? | 19:19 |
+BartJol | er? | 19:19 |
+perlDreamer | dapperedodo | 19:19 |
+BartJol | eeeh, i thought lovehandle... | 19:20 |
dreamersgirl | that's what i thought. he wasn't in channel, was he? or am i losing my mind? | 19:22 |
+BartJol | no he wasn't | 19:22 |
+perlDreamer | no, he wasn't in here | 19:22 |
+BartJol | he was online, only for me | 19:22 |
+perlDreamer | you are losing your mind, though | 19:22 |
+perlDreamer | only 3 hour of sleep last night! | 19:22 |
* perlDreamer reminds dreamersgirl of the negative effects of lack of sleep on endocrine and hormonal functioning | 19:23 |
dreamersgirl | funny--topic of the day is mood disorders | 19:23 |
+BartJol | it seems I'm just confused | 19:24 |
dreamersgirl | no, BartJol. I am. And now I'm spreading confusion around. Sorry. | 19:24 |
dreamersgirl | I'm in class right now and the professor is discussing mood disorders--depression, bipolar disorder, etc. | 19:25 |
+BartJol | now, I'm getting confused, I thought I was confused, but it was only you, but now I'm getting confused, so yoiu are less confused? | 19:25 |
+BartJol | is there a balance? | 19:25 |
dreamersgirl | exactly | 19:25 |
+BartJol | ah | 19:25 |
+BartJol | didn't know that | 19:26 |
dreamersgirl | maybe i should pay more attention in class. that may help my confusion.... | 19:27 |
+BartJol | DO NOT FOCUS! | 19:27 |
+BartJol | oh, sorry | 19:27 |
dreamersgirl | sure you are | 19:28 |
+perlDreamer | stupid tomcat is yowling through the house again | 19:28 |
dreamersgirl | sorry--i kept him up late partying last night | 19:29 |
+BartJol | well, just try to explain to your teacher that a Dutch guy is bothering you | 19:29 |
+BartJol | parties are good | 19:29 |
dreamersgirl | it wasn't a fun party | 19:29 |
+perlDreamer | It was a paper-writing party | 19:29 |
dreamersgirl | well, maybe for the cat. not for me. | 19:29 |
+BartJol | it is dinner tim now | 19:30 |
+BartJol | I should get some grub\ | 19:30 |
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dreamersgirl | And I should go to class. | 19:30 |
+BartJol | ok, later | 19:31 |
dreamersgirl | Enjoy your grub! | 19:31 |
+BartJol | thanks | 19:31 |
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CIA-53 | webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.7 * r4a638d3 / (docs/changelog/7.x.x.txt lib/WebGUI/Form/HTMLArea.pm): Help HTMLArea handle odd form names. Fixes bug #11209 - http://bit.ly/33spPm | 20:00 |
CIA-53 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * rce84be0 / (docs/changelog/7.x.x.txt lib/WebGUI/Form/HTMLArea.pm): Help HTMLArea handle odd form names. Fixes bug #11209 - http://bit.ly/mWEJq | 20:00 |
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dreamersgirl | theophylline | 20:14 |
+perlDreamer | gesundheit | 20:14 |
dreamersgirl | oops, sorry. wrong window! | 20:14 |
dreamersgirl | Danke | 20:14 |
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* perlDreamer is starting to want $session->url->yui to save some typing | 20:49 |
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@preaction | i'm about to setup an ldap/ldaps server on smoke, is there any other service that the smoke tests need? | 21:02 |
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+perlDreamer | there are no LDAP tests yet | 21:06 |
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@preaction | yeah, and we regressed. hence i'm making an ldap server on smoke to make ldap tests | 21:12 |
+perlDreamer | we regressed? What happened? | 21:17 |
+perlDreamer | also, there's a way to build a fake LDAP server for testing | 21:17 |
+perlDreamer | It's on CPAN | 21:17 |
@preaction | eh, this is easier and fewer deps | 21:19 |
+perlDreamer | is smoke working again? | 21:19 |
@preaction | it should be | 21:19 |
@preaction | i think just my RSS hack isn't working right | 21:20 |
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+perlDreamer | preaction: all recent links on smoke.plainblack.com point to non-existant pages | 22:27 |
+perlDreamer | or is that the RSS hack you were talking about? | 22:27 |
@preaction | no.. damnit | 22:28 |
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elnino | any one have bugzilla, cvs and webgui on the same machine? | 22:37 |
@preaction | that doesn't sound like any fun at all | 22:37 |
elnino | no? I really want to use wre, but am tempted to opt out on it this time around. =( Don't want to mess a around to much. | 22:39 |
@preaction | i was more thinking the bugzilla and cvs support | 22:39 |
@preaction | is there a reason it's cvs and not svn or something more modern? | 22:39 |
elnino | oh, it may be svn.. hold on. I get them messed up. | 22:40 |
@preaction | bugzilla has a modperl mode, iirc, so you can just make a bugzilla.modperl file in the WRE | 22:40 |
elnino | yes. svn | 22:40 |
@preaction | okay, then we have both svn and webgui running on plainblack.com | 22:40 |
@preaction | svn is running its own httpd on a different port, and modproxy is handling the reverse proxy | 22:41 |
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elnino | I see I have some more investigation to do... | 22:46 |
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@preaction | it's mostly apache configuration acrobatics | 22:49 |
@Haarg | our svn doesn't use a reverse proxy, it runs on a different IP | 22:55 |
elnino | bugzilla shouldn't have a problem using webgui's perl, right? just as long as it's in the path? | 22:55 |
elnino | and the additional mod's it needs are installed. | 22:56 |
@Haarg | it should work fine with webgui's perl | 22:56 |
elnino | so... svn gets it's own port and it's own apache/svnserve (I dont' know what is used yet), and bugzilla uses webgui's mysql and perl instanace. | 22:57 |
elnino | right? | 22:58 |
elnino | svn has it's own propritory db so nothing to do there. | 22:58 |
@Haarg | you could do it in a number of ways, but you could run svn in either the modperl or modproxy servers | 22:58 |
+perlDreamer | what does this mean: http://gist.github.com/230286 | 23:23 |
+perlDreamer | my i18n'ed modified template attachments JS wasn't working in IE7, so I ran it through jslint | 23:23 |
+perlDreamer | and it spewed back that message | 23:24 |
@Haarg | i'm not sure about the wrapped in an if thing | 23:24 |
@Haarg | but if you do a for loop like that on objects it sometimes gives you extra items that you wouldn't expect, such as methods | 23:24 |
+perlDreamer | ah, yes. | 23:25 |
+perlDreamer | I remember that from Javascript, the Good Parts | 23:25 |
+perlDreamer | it's a very small, slim book | 23:25 |
CIA-53 | webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.7 * rff0cfa0 / (4 files in 4 dirs): | 23:28 |
CIA-53 | webgui: i18n the template attachments, fixes bug #11186 | 23:28 |
CIA-53 | webgui: Also, rework some of the JS code according to jslint. - http://bit.ly/1i56JG | 23:28 |
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+perlDreamer | OSCON is coming back to Portland | 23:39 |
+perlDreamer | pack your bags! | 23:39 |
@preaction | ooh when? | 23:51 |
+perlDreamer | July 19-23 | 23:52 |
+perlDreamer | I can probably offer a place to crash | 23:52 |
+perlDreamer | but it's a long haul in to the Convention Center | 23:52 |
+perlDreamer | about 53 minutes by lightrail | 23:52 |
dreamersgirl | not that you've timed it or anything... | 23:57 |
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+perlDreamer | oh no | 00:02 |
+perlDreamer | speaking of timing, I have to go get some kids from the store | 00:02 |
+perlDreamer | I like to get there early, so they're fresh | 00:02 |
+perlDreamer | be back in 34 minutes | 00:02 |
+perlDreamer | with a standard variance of 2.3 minutes | 00:03 |
dreamersgirl | i'll be off by then | 00:06 |
dreamersgirl | later! | 00:06 |
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@preaction | where should i put the info for connecting / using smoke's ldap server? | 00:26 |
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@preaction | we're supposed to use Scope::Guard for cleanup in tests now, right? | 00:44 |
@preaction | like if i need to delete an ldap link? | 00:44 |
@Haarg | that's probably the best way, yes | 00:45 |
@preaction | easiest way to prove we have a shitty API: Write a test for it... | 00:59 |
+perlDreamer | preaction, I added a cleanup mode for DatabaseLink's yesterday. | 01:06 |
+perlDreamer | LDAPLinks should work the same way | 01:06 |
+perlDreamer | with a test to prevent the deletion of the default one | 01:06 |
+perlDreamer | ++trex | 01:30 |
@preaction | indeed | 01:31 |
+perlDreamer | can you grab that as part of your testing work? | 01:34 |
+perlDreamer | also, here's irony. I'm installing IE8 to try and debug some javascript | 01:34 |
vayde | wow, that's like sacrificing a goat for animal rights | 01:39 |
vayde | you know about firebug dontcha pd? | 01:40 |
+perlDreamer | I do, but of course, the JS works in FF | 01:42 |
+perlDreamer | and it's not throwing any errors in IE | 01:42 |
+perlDreamer | it's just not working | 01:42 |
vayde | yeah, catch 22 there. no good debug tools in IE | 01:43 |
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@preaction | actually IE 8 has a pretty nice debugger | 01:46 |
vayde | yeah? | 01:46 |
vayde | that's nice to hear | 01:46 |
vayde | how you been preaction? | 01:46 |
@preaction | same old, working on making webgui better | 01:53 |
@preaction | trying to stem the tide of shoddy fixes and regressions with my temporary minion, Colin | 01:53 |
@preaction | yourself? | 01:53 |
+perlDreamer | that's short term, not temporary | 01:56 |
vayde | oh, resident barbarian horde in corporate america | 01:56 |
vayde | I loot, pillage and burn with appalling regularity | 01:56 |
@preaction | what does one even call a minion without a super villian? | 01:57 |
@preaction | i mean, antagonist | 01:57 |
vayde | lonely? | 01:58 |
+perlDreamer | we have a villian | 01:58 |
+perlDreamer | but we do not often speak his name | 01:58 |
+perlDreamer | He is the Regressor | 01:58 |
+perlDreamer | evil perpretator of multiple mistakes | 01:59 |
vayde | heh. yeah, I can imagine that gets to be more and more of a threat every day | 01:59 |
+perlDreamer | speaking of which, preaction, any clue as to why the DataTable doesn't output the DataTable inside a row and table cell? | 02:00 |
+perlDreamer | is that on purpose for some reason? | 02:00 |
@preaction | huh? | 02:00 |
@preaction | you mean a nested table? | 02:01 |
+perlDreamer | it's making <table><table id="DataTable_container> rows and columns </table></table> | 02:01 |
@preaction | that's... weird | 02:01 |
+perlDreamer | ya | 02:01 |
+perlDreamer | I'm looking for anything that will help with this DataTable bug that JT found | 02:02 |
+perlDreamer | it's not throwing any errors or warnings | 02:02 |
+perlDreamer | for the data table, it just draws an empty header cell | 02:02 |
+perlDreamer | with no label | 02:02 |
+perlDreamer | and no content or anything underneath it | 02:03 |
+perlDreamer | also, no buttons for help, add or delete | 02:03 |
+perlDreamer | very strange | 02:03 |
@preaction | is there a stable release tomorrow? | 02:04 |
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+perlDreamer | preaction, I've made so many releases in last 10 days I don't remember who is supposed to be next | 02:07 |
+perlDreamer | I'll check | 02:07 |
+perlDreamer | yeah, it's stable tomorrow | 02:08 |
+perlDreamer | unless I've catatrosphically mucked something else up and have to do more off-time releases | 02:08 |
CIA-53 | webgui: Doug Bell webgui-7.7 * r88a4327 / (lib/WebGUI/Auth/LDAP.pm t/Auth/LDAP.t): fixed #11218: LDAPS does not create users automatically - http://bit.ly/tbUj9 | 02:10 |
CIA-53 | webgui: Doug Bell webgui-7.7 * r26a212f / docs/changelog/7.x.x.txt : add changelog - http://bit.ly/3xwdsi | 02:10 |
CIA-53 | webgui: Doug Bell master * rd5c2275 / docs/upgrades/upgrade_7.8.4-7.8.5.pl : make the upgrade shut up - http://bit.ly/3gkSyL | 02:10 |
CIA-53 | webgui: Doug Bell master * rec30672 / (3 files in 3 dirs): fixed #11218: LDAPS does not create users automatically - http://bit.ly/tdIhi | 02:10 |
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CIA-53 | wrebuild: Colin Kuskie master * r9e0f791 / wre/docs/install.txt : Add a note about SELinux, and how it won't work with the WRE. Fixes bug #10703 - http://bit.ly/17JSeQ | 02:11 |
CIA-53 | wrebuild: Colin Kuskie master * r3f0fc60 / (7 files in 4 dirs): Merge branch 'master' of git@github.com:plainblack/wrebuild - http://bit.ly/42EYlI | 02:11 |
+perlDreamer | SynQ: I made a documentation change to the WRE, install.txt. | 02:11 |
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+perlDreamer | son of a gun | 02:21 |
+perlDreamer | that did it! | 02:21 |
+perlDreamer | but I may have found a codeEditor bug, too | 02:21 |
+perlDreamer | code-editor.js, line 289 (this._getSelection is null) | 02:22 |
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@preaction | yeah, that's been a consistent problem | 02:29 |
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+perlDreamer | should we do an existance check on that key before calling methods through it? | 02:34 |
+perlDreamer | oh, adding the TR and TD tags to the table fixed the DataTable in IE8 | 02:35 |
+perlDreamer | now checking IE7 | 02:35 |
+perlDreamer | and then I'm going to check Susan's default time zone bug | 02:35 |
+perlDreamer | and then I'm going to fix dinner | 02:35 |
+perlDreamer | which does not involve bugs | 02:38 |
CIA-53 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r9d14e8b / (3 files in 3 dirs): | 02:50 |
CIA-53 | webgui: Fix rendering of initial DataTable in IE7, IE8. Fixes bug #11205. | 02:50 |
CIA-53 | webgui: Added TR, TD tags to table containing the DataTable. Also, | 02:50 |
CIA-53 | webgui: ran dataTable.js through jslint and fixed many issues. - http://bit.ly/284pru | 02:50 |
CIA-53 | webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.7 * rab6811e / (3 files in 3 dirs): | 02:50 |
CIA-53 | webgui: Fix rendering of initial DataTable in IE7, IE8. Fixes bug #11205. | 02:50 |
CIA-53 | webgui: Added TR, TD tags to table containing the DataTable. Also, | 02:50 |
CIA-53 | webgui: ran dataTable.js through jslint and fixed many issues. - http://bit.ly/1V7FVU | 02:50 |
+perlDreamer | preaction, $session->setting will automatically restore itself at the end of the test | 02:51 |
+perlDreamer | no need to clean it up | 02:51 |
@preaction | i'm not cleaning it up, i'm making sure it doesn't interfere with the next test | 02:56 |
@preaction | (and that final test, the next test is unwritten) | 02:56 |
+perlDreamer | I see | 03:04 |
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SquOnk | Hello everyone | 15:25 |
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ryuu_ro | hi guys | 15:26 |
ryuu_ro | anybody an idea why in the extras yui dir the beta version of element is included? | 15:26 |
ryuu_ro | in 7.7.25 that is | 15:27 |
ryuu_ro | and 7.7.21 also has the beta included | 15:28 |
ryuu_ro | as far as i remember this used to be a stable version | 15:28 |
+bartjol | ah, memory, the illusionist of the mind | 15:41 |
ryuu_ro | ok Bart, time to answer my question | 15:42 |
+bartjol | you should go now | 15:42 |
ryuu_ro | thanks | 15:42 |
ryuu_ro | :) | 15:42 |
+bartjol | but, sorry, I don't | 15:42 |
+bartjol | know | 15:42 |
ryuu_ro | dev list it is | 15:43 |
+bartjol | isn't there anything in the changelog? | 15:43 |
SquOnk | Any news on the SynContent encoding bug? | 15:43 |
+bartjol | not afaik | 15:43 |
ryuu_ro | well the encoding is not working for me | 15:44 |
ryuu_ro | yet | 15:44 |
SquOnk | Meh | 15:45 |
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+perlDreamer | bartjol, I only have a little time before I need to take kids to school | 17:44 |
+perlDreamer | Next RFE day is next monday | 17:44 |
+bartjol | yes | 17:44 |
+perlDreamer | let's work on some of the international RFEs together | 17:44 |
+perlDreamer | you game? | 17:44 |
+bartjol | ooh, well, I suppose | 17:45 |
+perlDreamer | I'm thinking about the choice of language one | 17:45 |
+perlDreamer | and also Martien's one for copying language into the core | 17:45 |
+bartjol | so the base site language? | 17:45 |
+perlDreamer | yes | 17:45 |
+bartjol | yes there is some overlap in those | 17:45 |
+bartjol | I believe | 17:45 |
+perlDreamer | I'm not so sure | 17:45 |
+perlDreamer | in any case, we should be able to bust them out quickly | 17:46 |
+perlDreamer | also, how 'bout them tests? | 17:46 |
+perlDreamer | gotta scoot | 17:46 |
+bartjol | haven been able to look at that | 17:46 |
+bartjol | gotta reserve some time for it this week | 17:47 |
daviddelikat3 | I **** browser compatibility | 17:54 |
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+bartjol | I like compatibility, but dtest incompatability :P | 17:55 |
daviddelikat3 | hey perlDreamer I figured out how I should have retrieved my files last saturday | 17:55 |
daviddelikat3 | browser compatibility is like military inteligence | 17:55 |
daviddelikat3 | it looks like it but it isnt | 17:55 |
daviddelikat3 | that is compatible | 17:56 |
+bartjol | :) | 17:59 |
+perlDreamer | what's the magic invocation, daviddelikat3? | 18:00 |
daviddelikat3 | well I was trying to checkout the old versions of the files | 18:00 |
daviddelikat3 | but what I didn't do was make a branch first | 18:00 |
daviddelikat3 | you can't checkout out of a commit | 18:00 |
daviddelikat3 | but you can make a branch at any commit point | 18:00 |
daviddelikat3 | and checkout of the brance | 18:01 |
daviddelikat3 | branch | 18:01 |
daviddelikat3 | its actually very cool | 18:01 |
+perlDreamer | nice | 18:01 |
daviddelikat3 | and would have got me back on track very quickly | 18:01 |
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daviddelikat3 | but I didn't really understand branches | 18:01 |
daviddelikat3 | now I do | 18:01 |
daviddelikat3 | now I'll be using them much more | 18:02 |
+perlDreamer | branches are cool | 18:02 |
daviddelikat3 | I hope can delete branches... | 18:02 |
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daviddelikat3 | otherwise our tree is going to be pretty crowded | 18:03 |
+perlDreamer | git branch -d | 18:03 |
+perlDreamer | git branch -D | 18:03 |
+perlDreamer | either way | 18:03 |
daviddelikat3 | yeah | 18:03 |
daviddelikat3 | I've been mostly reading about creating them using checkout | 18:03 |
daviddelikat3 | I'll have to look at branch next | 18:03 |
daviddelikat3 | but first I have to check off some items from my TODO list | 18:04 |
daviddelikat3 | can i export WG users in a package? | 18:05 |
+perlDreamer | no | 18:05 |
daviddelikat3 | bummer | 18:05 |
+perlDreamer | but... | 18:05 |
+perlDreamer | you can build a SQL Report that produces a file that userImport.pl will take | 18:06 |
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daviddelikat3 | I just want to have some users that I can import to my dev system | 18:06 |
daviddelikat3 | it would be really cool if 'wgd reset' cold run a few scripts when it does a dev reset | 18:07 |
+perlDreamer | --util | 18:07 |
+perlDreamer | you need to upgrade your wgd :) | 18:07 |
daviddelikat3 | I guess so | 18:08 |
+perlDreamer | I keep a file like this laying around: http://gist.github.com/230988 | 18:08 |
daviddelikat3 | I'm falling behind on everything | 18:08 |
+perlDreamer | so that I can import a bunch of users quickly | 18:08 |
daviddelikat3 | thanks | 18:09 |
daviddelikat3 | I'll just keep that one | 18:09 |
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+perlDreamer | Haarg: good morning | 18:27 |
+perlDreamer | I have a User question for you | 18:27 |
+perlDreamer | when users are created, do they get user profile defaults from Visitor? | 18:27 |
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+perlDreamer | Haaarg, did you see my earlier question about users and profile field defaults? | 18:44 |
@Haaarg | nope | 18:44 |
+perlDreamer | when users are created, do they get user profile defaults from Visitor? | 18:44 |
+perlDreamer | note, this is a trick question | 18:45 |
@Haaarg | i know they did at one point, don't know if that has changed | 18:45 |
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+perlDreamer | if a user is created by create, it gets defaults from the user profile field | 18:46 |
+perlDreamer | but if a user is created via Operation/User, it gets defaults from Visitor | 18:46 |
@Haaarg | heh | 18:46 |
@Haaarg | fun | 18:46 |
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@preaction | if there are a bunch of things that are shared between a couple objects, should I create a role or a base-class to inherit them from? | 19:26 |
@preaction | a bunch means 2 or 3 methods | 19:26 |
+perlDreamer | like what kinds of methods? | 19:27 |
@preaction | a clone method that creates a new object by serializing and deserializing | 19:27 |
@preaction | a constructor that translates one object into another | 19:27 |
+perlDreamer | I thought that Clone provided one of those | 19:28 |
+perlDreamer | but I think it's worth having a base class for | 19:28 |
+perlDreamer | although, if we ever start using Class::DBI or Moose, we shouldn't need it anymore | 19:28 |
@preaction | that's one downside, another is the added complexity | 19:29 |
@preaction | it's the FormBuilder, there's already some weird inheritance going on there with the Roles | 19:29 |
+perlDreamer | if that's true, maybe it wants to fallback to being class based? | 19:29 |
@preaction | no, the three roles that are there should be there | 19:30 |
@preaction | otherwise it would be copy/paste code | 19:30 |
@preaction | this other stuff isn't quite copy/paste. some identifiers need to be changed between the two | 19:31 |
+perlDreamer | I don't know the details of what you're doing, but class based inheritance isn't copy/paste | 19:31 |
wgGuest65 | \nick daviddelikat_at_work | 19:34 |
+perlDreamer | wrong slash, wgGuest65 | 19:34 |
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daviddelikat_at_ | i guess theres a limit to the length of a nick... | 19:34 |
+perlDreamer | reading through ProfileField, I'm reminded of a line from the Tim Burton Batman movie | 19:38 |
+perlDreamer | This code needs an enema | 19:38 |
elnino | ew | 19:52 |
+perlDreamer | sorry | 19:52 |
+perlDreamer | potty talk in channel | 19:52 |
* perlDreamer goes to the bathroom to wash out his keyboard with soap | 19:52 |
CIA-53 | webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.7 * r0818f12 / (5 files in 4 dirs): Users always get default profile field values from the profile field. Fixes bug #11215 - http://bit.ly/3A1AtS | 20:01 |
CIA-53 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r858c148 / (5 files in 4 dirs): Users always get default profile field values from the profile field. Fixes bug #11215 - http://bit.ly/3nJkLl | 20:01 |
CIA-53 | webgui: Doug Bell formbuilder * rcef7c9c / lib/WebGUI/FormBuilder.pm : added clone to FormBuilder - http://bit.ly/19pWf5 | 20:01 |
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CIA-53 | webgui: Doug Bell webgui-7.7 * r3d4175a / (docs/changelog/7.x.x.txt lib/WebGUI/Asset/Wobject/Map.pm): fixed #11220: Map asset badly broken - http://bit.ly/16PG97 | 20:09 |
+perlDreamer | preaction++ | 20:09 |
+perlDreamer | that was fast | 20:09 |
+perlDreamer | feel up to a few other bugs, perhaps? | 20:09 |
CIA-53 | webgui: Doug Bell master * ra182524 / (docs/changelog/7.x.x.txt lib/WebGUI/Asset/Wobject/Map.pm): fixed #11220: Map asset badly broken - http://bit.ly/2XU1d | 20:10 |
@preaction | i'm gonna try to get the code editor bug at least | 20:11 |
+perlDreamer | I think i can handle the rest | 20:11 |
+perlDreamer | after I go to the gym | 20:11 |
+perlDreamer | I'd also appreciate your thoughts on my proposed fix for the cached Navigation bug | 20:11 |
+perlDreamer | which are on the dev forum | 20:12 |
@preaction | ok | 20:12 |
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@preaction | is it really too much to ask for little icons next to menu items? | 21:03 |
@preaction | or using icons with no labels and no text, no need to i18n? | 21:03 |
@preaction | or am i crazy that icons improve usability | 21:04 |
@preaction | and are everywhere in every single computer program when they shouldn't be? | 21:04 |
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+perlDreamer | ping | 22:47 |
+perlDreamer | grrr | 22:48 |
+perlDreamer | github is down | 22:48 |
SquOnk | What's the proper way to redirect to the home page on logout? | 22:57 |
+perlDreamer | currrenly, WebGUI just returns you to the current page | 22:57 |
+perlDreamer | if your plugin is general purpose, it should do that as well | 22:58 |
SquOnk | perlDreamer: So I'd need to use the runOnLogout thing in the config file. | 22:58 |
+perlDreamer | if your plugin isn't, then just set a redirect in $session->http | 22:58 |
+perlDreamer | runOnLogout is a script | 22:58 |
+perlDreamer | or a Workflow | 22:58 |
SquOnk | perlDreamer: I know | 22:58 |
+perlDreamer | that script won't allow you to change the landing page after a logout operation | 22:58 |
SquOnk | perlDreamer: I want a general way to redirect people to the home page when they logout, wherever they might be on the page. | 22:59 |
SquOnk | perlDreamer: I see | 22:59 |
+perlDreamer | I'd subclass sub logout, and do the redirect in there | 23:00 |
+perlDreamer | preaction, in t/Auth/LDAP.t, it says to always test LDAPS. why is that? | 23:25 |
@preaction | because if LDAPS works, so will LDAP | 23:27 |
+perlDreamer | okay | 23:28 |
@preaction | i mean, to be thorough we could do both, and just swapping ldap:// for ldaps:// will work, but i didn't want to create the test programmatically | 23:28 |
+perlDreamer | I'm looking at Trex's patches, and thinking about tests | 23:28 |
+perlDreamer | I just want to be sure I use smoke's LDAP server the right way | 23:28 |
@preaction | laziness mostly, well, more like "i'm already 2 weeks behind and this is not one of the tasks I was assigned, but the buck has to stop somewhere, so it stops with me" | 23:28 |
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+perlDreamer | preaction, I have a hard time ascribing the word laziness to you | 01:58 |
+perlDreamer | browser caching sucks | 02:05 |
+perlDreamer | but it doesn't suck as much as server side caching | 02:05 |
+perlDreamer | or, content last modified fields | 02:05 |
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SquOnk | perlDreamer: Are you there? | 02:51 |
@preaction | he just left, he'll be back a little later | 02:52 |
SquOnk | Ok | 02:52 |
+perlDreamer | quick question | 03:06 |
+perlDreamer | have to leave in 5 | 03:06 |
+perlDreamer | what's up SquOnk? | 03:06 |
+perlDreamer | no change in status on the encoding bugs | 03:06 |
SquOnk | perlDreamer: It's not about that | 03:07 |
+perlDreamer | okay, Kuskie boys are off to piano lessons | 03:11 |
+perlDreamer | be back on about 8:30 pm PST for stable release | 03:11 |
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+perlDreamer | the piano teacher has been holding out on me. She was wireless! | 04:17 |
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CIA-53 | webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.7 * rc0f9403 / www/extras/yui/build/treeview/treeview.js : Backport the treeview nav autoexpand by list class code from YUI 2.8. - http://bit.ly/t2R4p | 04:24 |
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vayde | preaction? you around? | 05:20 |
@preaction | temporarily, sup | 05:20 |
vayde | just a fyi | 05:20 |
vayde | the testEnvironment.pl in the wG source install | 05:20 |
vayde | it seems to be missing dependencies | 05:20 |
vayde | for Template::Toolkit and SOAP::Lite | 05:20 |
+perlDreamer | those are all optional | 05:21 |
+perlDreamer | as long as you have your config file setup the correct way | 05:21 |
+perlDreamer | like not using the TT plugin, or the deprecated WSClient asset | 05:21 |
vayde | ahh, well, the basic conf barfed | 05:21 |
@preaction | yeah, because TT is included with the WRE | 05:21 |
@preaction | that's a bug | 05:21 |
vayde | shouldn't the conf given work with the modules listed in the env test? | 05:22 |
+perlDreamer | how is that a bug? | 05:22 |
@preaction | it's actually because WebGUI preloads WebGUI::Asset::Template::TemplateToolkit | 05:22 |
@preaction | and since it can't preload it without having TT installed, it explodes | 05:22 |
+perlDreamer | we're going to use TT anyway, I guess | 05:22 |
vayde | well, i just figure at least the default conf aught to work with the environment that passes the test | 05:23 |
@preaction | i'd say disable the TT parser. i don't see why webgui is preloading everything it can get its grubby hands on | 05:23 |
@preaction | but i don't know what the policy is here and i'm not setting any more policy today | 05:24 |
+perlDreamer | to disable it, we'd have to ship a default preload.exclude | 05:24 |
@preaction | i'm going to get brown sugar so i can make cookies | 05:24 |
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vayde | so, would you like that filed as a bug? or just take it as a fyi? | 05:26 |
+perlDreamer | file it | 05:28 |
vayde | kk, next question, where's the bugtracker these days | 05:28 |
+perlDreamer | you can't tell one bug from another without a helpdek ticket | 05:28 |
+perlDreamer | www.webgui.org/bugs | 05:28 |
vayde | (sorry, it's been a while) | 05:28 |
vayde | thanks | 05:28 |
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+perlDreamer | preaction, any pending commits? | 06:50 |
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@preaction | perlDreamer: nope, go head | 07:04 |
elnino | g'nite all. | 07:05 |
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+perlDreamer | how are the cookies? | 07:05 |
@preaction | look much better than last time, where i had to substitute the brown sugar | 07:06 |
@preaction | still gotta wait for cooldown to make the crucial test | 07:06 |
* perlDreamer predicts UTF8 problems in the next WRE | 07:09 |
+perlDreamer | either that, or Fedora just lost a customer | 07:09 |
@preaction | and now you're having charset problems too? | 07:11 |
@preaction | sheesh | 07:11 |
+perlDreamer | yup | 07:11 |
+perlDreamer | there are actually two charset tests in the suite | 07:11 |
+perlDreamer | and the literal utf8 one is failing | 07:11 |
+perlDreamer | I'm hoping it's fedora, and not core perl changes | 07:11 |
@preaction | oh yeah, the cookies are excellent as always | 07:23 |
+perlDreamer | what kind are they? | 07:38 |
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CIA-53 | webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.7 * rb3576ff / docs/create.sql : Preparing for 7.7.26 release - http://bit.ly/LUj4c | 07:43 |
+perlDreamer | oh, that rarest of upgrades with no db manipulation | 07:50 |
+perlDreamer | and we're out | 08:15 |
+perlDreamer | see y'all tomorrow | 08:15 |
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CIA-53 | webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.7 * r2f0ef5f / (4 files in 4 dirs): Ready for 7.7.27 development. - http://bit.ly/3gyaPd | 08:16 |
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slickware | morning all | 16:58 |
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+patspam | Haarg: wgdev is in the bazaar yeah? | 17:51 |
@Haarg | yes | 17:52 |
@Haarg | http://www.webgui.org/bazaar/wgdev | 17:52 |
+patspam | ta | 17:52 |
+patspam | sucks that there's no bazaar search | 17:52 |
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+BartJol | patspam: there seems no file to be attached to your bazaar post, or am I just impatient? | 17:54 |
+patspam | heh yeah sorry, just uploading it now | 17:54 |
+BartJol | :) | 17:54 |
+BartJol | nice sceenshot though | 17:55 |
+patspam | uploaded now | 17:56 |
+BartJol | got it, gonna check it out | 18:00 |
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David_ | good morning i m having the hardest time trying to fix a problem i am getting a communication error on my log and i think it has something to do with my host file can anybody tell me what needs to go there. i have the 127.0.0.1 localhost localhost.localdomain and on a second line i have the ip of server www.mydomain.com is this correct? | 19:02 |
+BartJol | that doesn't sound wrong | 19:02 |
+BartJol | we mostly add the domain without the www | 19:02 |
+BartJol | David_ what is the error? | 19:05 |
David_ | ERROR - spectre.conf - POE::Kernel::_dispatch_event[1056] - CRON: Response for job | 19:05 |
+BartJol | ah | 19:05 |
+BartJol | spectre connects from the "outside" | 19:06 |
+BartJol | what is the spectre ip> | 19:06 |
+BartJol | ? | 19:06 |
David_ | no both in same box | 19:06 |
+BartJol | maybe you should change it to your external IP | 19:06 |
+BartJol | default is 127.0.0.1 I believe | 19:06 |
David_ | yes ok | 19:07 |
David_ | let me try. because also i am trying to upload sompe wgpkg and i get nothing, the pages are not imported and i don't get errors on webgui.log | 19:07 |
+BartJol | not sure on which log level those errors are | 19:08 |
+BartJol | you can try altering your log level | 19:08 |
+BartJol | but 1 thing at a time | 19:08 |
David_ | yes | 19:09 |
David_ | working on changing spectre.conf to external ip | 19:09 |
+BartJol | you need to restart modpelr and spectre | 19:10 |
+BartJol | and change it in the webgui and spectre conf | 19:10 |
David_ | ok | 19:11 |
+BartJol | in the webgui conf you can just add it I believe | 19:11 |
+BartJol | not sure about that though, I would have to check that | 19:12 |
+BartJol | does it help? | 19:15 |
David_ | restarting | 19:15 |
+BartJol | sorry for pushing but I have a very important beer drinking appointment :P | 19:16 |
David_ | take me with you lol | 19:16 |
+BartJol | you know Delft? | 19:17 |
David_ | no | 19:17 |
+BartJol | http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=brabantse+turfmarkt+67,+delft&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=31.839416,79.013672&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Brabantse+Turfmarkt+67,+2611+Delft,+South+Holland,+The+Netherlands&ll=52.010184,4.360531&spn=0.001509,0.004823&z=18 | 19:18 |
David_ | im on the states | 19:18 |
+BartJol | it's just an 8 hour flight | 19:19 |
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+BartJol | but how are the errors doing? | 19:19 |
David_ | the communications errors went away thanks | 19:20 |
+BartJol | ok | 19:20 |
David_ | now to figure out why i can't import packages | 19:20 |
+BartJol | still can't? | 19:20 |
David_ | no | 19:20 |
David_ | and no errors on logs | 19:20 |
+BartJol | ok | 19:20 |
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+perlDreamer | good morning WebGUI folks | 19:20 |
@Haarg | morning | 19:20 |
David_ | morning | 19:21 |
+BartJol | you can try to set ypour log level to debug temporarily(!!) | 19:21 |
+BartJol | in log.conf | 19:21 |
+perlDreamer | Haarg, do you have 15 minutes to talk about multiple languages in the core? | 19:21 |
* BartJol wistles and looks up | 19:21 |
@Haarg | sure | 19:22 |
+perlDreamer | I see a couple of problems with the idea | 19:22 |
+perlDreamer | 1) we run the risk of people making changes to the git copy of the i18n | 19:22 |
+perlDreamer | 2) i18n could also fork between the stable and beta branches | 19:22 |
+perlDreamer | I think we can solve (1) by just saying the the svn version is the canonical version, and that it gets overwritten at release | 19:23 |
+perlDreamer | I haven't thought of how to handle (2) yet. | 19:23 |
+BartJol | David_ I leave you in the hands of the rest of these good people | 19:23 |
David_ | thanks a lot for the help | 19:23 |
+BartJol | np | 19:23 |
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@Haarg | if we wanted to have multiple languages in core, it seems like it would make the most sense to just have the core copy be authoritative and get rid of the separate repo | 19:24 |
+perlDreamer | so we'd pull it out of i18n.webgui.org and the SVN repo | 19:25 |
+perlDreamer | and the only way to edit it would be via commandline | 19:25 |
@Haarg | well, we'd need to make adjustments to the translation server, but that needs to happen anyway | 19:26 |
+perlDreamer | and in the changes that you'd like to make to the translation server, is it supposed to handle i18n in multiple branches? | 19:29 |
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David_ | does anybody know any reasons why wouldn't i be able to import wgpkg from same version into my current installation, no errors anywhere | 19:41 |
+perlDreamer | if the asset exists in another area, it would look like that it didn't do anything | 19:41 |
+perlDreamer | but it would be imported/updated in it's current spot | 19:41 |
+perlDreamer | we need some more details to know exactly what's going on to help you, David_ | 19:42 |
David_ | ok i have a separete server in which development is done before taking it to live, they export the content as wgpkg files | 19:42 |
David_ | both boxes are on same webgui version | 19:43 |
David_ | so im trying to imported them to my live box, content doesn't exist on live box | 19:44 |
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+perlDreamer | what kind of content are you trying to import? Have you tried to import this package on a demo server? | 19:45 |
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David_ | its just page layout with links | 19:47 |
David_ | simple content | 19:47 |
+perlDreamer | and when you import the package, it doesn't show up in the asset manager, there are no new version tags created (checking all lists of version tags in the Admin Console) and there are no error messages in the webgui log, or the apache error log. | 19:48 |
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David_ | no erros on webgui.log even when i change to debug | 19:49 |
David_ | i am trying to imported them to the same source machine | 19:49 |
David_ | just to get the correct steps to export you go to metadata and say yes to make a package and make tis asset exportable? | 19:52 |
David_ | nothing i can't even on same box | 20:01 |
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+perlDreamer | well, again, if you import a package on a box, where an asset exists with the same assetId, it will try to update that asset | 20:08 |
+perlDreamer | the only way to tell for sure what happened is to check the version tags | 20:08 |
+perlDreamer | make sure that a new version tag was created, and maybe committed, recently | 20:09 |
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SquOnk | Greetings | 20:35 |
+perlDreamer | SquOnk, greetings | 20:35 |
SquOnk | 7.7.26 already made it into Debian ;-) | 20:36 |
+perlDreamer | that was fast | 20:36 |
+perlDreamer | barring any more catastrophes, the next 7.7 will be in two weeks | 20:36 |
SquOnk | perlDreamer: Good. | 20:36 |
SquOnk | perlDreamer: When is 7.8 due to be declared stable? | 20:37 |
+perlDreamer | feature freeze is next week | 20:37 |
+perlDreamer | when we get all fixable bugs closed, then it goes stable | 20:37 |
SquOnk | perlDreamer: The Debian Freeze is expected for december/january and it would be nice if it were stable by then. | 20:37 |
+perlDreamer | we'll do the best we can, but can't make promises | 20:38 |
SquOnk | perlDreamer: I know | 20:38 |
* perlDreamer heads out for a run | 20:41 |
+perlDreamer | SquOnk, you may find this interesting: http://www.webgui.org/rfe/request-for-enhancement/11212 | 20:42 |
SquOnk | perlDreamer: Hm. Spanish could fit there too | 20:54 |
SquOnk | perlDreamer: FWIW, I'm aware of the new messages in the shipping modules, I've just not done the research on them | 21:01 |
SquOnk | perlDreamer: (We're currently on the 8th week of the term. I'm grading 40 mid-terms today, will have to grade 25 mid-terms tomorrow, plus 12 programming projects... everything before friday) | 21:01 |
SquOnk | perlDreamer: It's a good thing I can use 'prove' to grade the programming projects ;-) | 21:02 |
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dionak | does anyone know if you can use custom form controls with Thingy? | 21:28 |
@Haarg | pretty certain you can | 21:32 |
dionak | i noticed a form control must have isDynamicCompatible set to true to turn up in the list of field types | 21:36 |
dionak | sweet. it works. :) | 21:37 |
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dionak | can someone help me with a form control issue? i copied checklist.pm and made some mods. it's not saving the data in a Thing, as expected. | 22:49 |
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+perlDreamer | sure, dionak. What kind of mods did you make? | 22:50 |
dionak | let me get my code up on pastebin | 22:51 |
dionak | it'll make this easier | 22:51 |
dionak | here we go | 22:53 |
dionak | http://webgui.pastebin.com/m3916c43f | 22:53 |
dionak | i'm trying to display a list of markets in a Thing so I can create a relation, hence the checklist.pm usage | 22:54 |
+perlDreamer | It should probably inherit from Form::List instead of Form::Control, but I'm still reading | 22:54 |
dionak | k | 22:55 |
+perlDreamer | the generated HTML all looks okay, it's just not saving more than 1 checkbox at a time? | 22:56 |
dionak | it's not saving any values | 22:57 |
preaction | why not inherit from CheckList and inside new() have it set the options you want? | 22:57 |
dionak | inheriting from List makes a lot of sense | 22:57 |
+perlDreamer | preaction's idea is even better | 22:57 |
preaction | then you don't have to copy/paste any code at all ;) | 22:57 |
dionak | love the idea. looking.. | 22:58 |
preaction | I should write a blog post about that | 22:58 |
preaction | we do it a lot in our client work, form controls that pull from custom tables | 22:58 |
dionak | yes, that would make a great blog post | 22:59 |
dionak | are you thinking of overloading definition()? | 22:59 |
dionak | there's not a new() | 23:00 |
+perlDreamer | he may mean toHtml | 23:00 |
+perlDreamer | the way that Form/TimeZone does it | 23:00 |
preaction | no i mean new | 23:00 |
dionak | can you show me an example? | 23:00 |
+perlDreamer | why would you do it there, vs toHtml ? | 23:00 |
+perlDreamer | everybody calls toHtml | 23:00 |
preaction | sub new { my ( $class, $session, @args ) = @_; my $self = $class->SUPER::new( $session, @args ); # Now set your options here; return $self } | 23:01 |
preaction | everyone calls new too | 23:01 |
preaction | so after you get a $self, do $self->set({ options => \%myoptions }); | 23:02 |
preaction | you'll have to get %myoptions, of course (and Tie::IxHash it if you want ordered options) | 23:02 |
dionak | interesting. k, i have the code to get the options already | 23:03 |
+perlDreamer | everybody does call new, too, but all of our core code overrides toHtml | 23:03 |
+perlDreamer | I hate having bad example code in the core | 23:03 |
preaction | the idea is that you want the options set as soon as possible, in case it's not going to call toHtml, but instead calls "getValue" | 23:03 |
preaction | toHtml is the right thing to do when overriding how the form control looks | 23:03 |
preaction | but if you're talking the Form::Country, then it should be overriding new | 23:04 |
dionak | is there any example in the codebase where new is being overridden? | 23:05 |
preaction | let me pastebin one, just a sec | 23:05 |
preaction | http://gist.github.com/232298 | 23:09 |
dionak | that helps a lot. thanks preaction | 23:10 |
dionak | would setting the selected values be a concern for me here? or is that handled somewhere else? | 23:11 |
preaction | that would be handled by the superclass's toHtml method | 23:11 |
preaction | (which is the beauty of this method) | 23:11 |
dionak | ok | 23:11 |
preaction | also getValue handled by the superclass | 23:11 |
dionak | ok, so i really only need to set the options | 23:12 |
preaction | yup | 23:12 |
dionak | great. thanks guys | 23:12 |
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dionak | woohoo! haha...it works | 23:17 |
+perlDreamer | I hope he was able to work out his package problem... | 23:17 |
+perlDreamer | SquOnk, I agree about Spanish being a good candidate, especially if it's maintained regularly | 23:20 |
+perlDreamer | I would hate to see the Arabic Incident repeated on other languages | 23:20 |
preaction | if we could get spanish, dutch, and german all included, that'd be perfect | 23:21 |
+perlDreamer | yeah, I still don't have a solution for issues I brought up earlier though | 23:21 |
preaction | releasing with un-i18ned text? | 23:21 |
+perlDreamer | no | 23:22 |
+perlDreamer | with languages in two places (SVN and GIT), which one is canonical | 23:22 |
+perlDreamer | and, with two branches, how is that handled? | 23:22 |
+perlDreamer | if it's in the core, someone could file a bug against a translation | 23:22 |
preaction | i'd say the i18n.webgui.org is canonical | 23:22 |
preaction | and we'd have to put the translators on the spot for bugs filed against their translations | 23:23 |
preaction | or tell the bug reporter that they can fix it themselves if they want, via i18n.webgui.org | 23:23 |
+perlDreamer | so how about stable vs beta translations? | 23:23 |
preaction | if we include the beta translation w/ stable, that should be fine, no? | 23:24 |
preaction | but yeah, that's a slightly bigger issue | 23:24 |
+perlDreamer | i18n server always tracks beta | 23:24 |
+perlDreamer | which means in some cases, stable i18n is removed | 23:24 |
+perlDreamer | it's more like we need multiple branches for i18n, and allow the server to port changes between them, as requested by the translators. | 23:27 |
@Haarg | is there a reason to not just move the translations into core? | 23:29 |
+perlDreamer | download size | 23:29 |
+perlDreamer | translation server doesn't work with git yet | 23:29 |
+perlDreamer | no way to track multiple branches (stable/beta) | 23:30 |
+perlDreamer | those aren't reasons not to do it | 23:30 |
+perlDreamer | those are questions that need answers/solutions | 23:30 |
+perlDreamer | even if the answers are: | 23:32 |
+perlDreamer | download size doesn't matter | 23:32 |
+perlDreamer | can't use core languages with the translation server | 23:32 |
+perlDreamer | we only track beta on the translation server | 23:32 |
+perlDreamer | those are fine, as long as they're understood by us and all the translators | 23:32 |
+perlDreamer | The EU tax driver uses SOAP::List, and it wasn't ever added to testEnvironment.pl | 23:43 |
+perlDreamer | SOAP::Lite | 23:43 |
@Haarg | it shouldn't | 23:44 |
@Haarg | it isn't used in the code anywhere | 23:44 |
+perlDreamer | It's used in the EU tax driver | 23:44 |
+perlDreamer | it's new | 23:44 |
@Haarg | 'use SOAP::Lite' is the only refernce | 23:45 |
@Haarg | *reference | 23:45 |
@Haarg | it isn't needed | 23:45 |
+perlDreamer | and the test runs okay without it | 23:45 |
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CIA-49 | webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.7 * r053fe47 / (3 files in 2 dirs): Fix rendering treeview rendering issues with debug and minimized JS. - http://bit.ly/F3cRD | 23:53 |
CIA-49 | webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.7 * ra0d2c23 / (3 files in 3 dirs): | 23:53 |
CIA-49 | webgui: Fix module use issues. Fixes bug#11222 | 23:53 |
CIA-49 | webgui: Remove bad use line from TaxDriver/EU.pm | 23:53 |
CIA-49 | webgui: Add line for TT2 in testEnvironment.pl - http://bit.ly/48XH6I | 23:53 |
SquOnk | That means SOAP::Lite is not needed? | 23:54 |
+perlDreamer | right | 23:54 |
* SquOnk takes note that dependencies need to be re-checked for the next release | 23:58 |
+perlDreamer | we added one for Template::Toolkit 2.20 | 23:59 |
+perlDreamer | and removed a use line for SOAP::Lite, which used to be required, and then wasn't, and then was accidently required but not actually needed, and is now fixed | 23:59 |
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+perlDreamer | which I guess brings up a point | 00:00 |
SquOnk | Good | 00:00 |
+perlDreamer | HTML::Template::Expr are marked as optional, but since those plugins are loaded by the default config, they really aren't optional | 00:00 |
+perlDreamer | Template::Toolkit is/should be the same way | 00:01 |
* SquOnk working out tomorrow's class exercises | 00:01 |
* perlDreamer recommends, squats, pushups, situps and burpees | 00:01 |
@Haarg | the default config doesn't include Expr | 00:01 |
+perlDreamer | good point | 00:02 |
SquOnk | perlDreamer: Well, they tend to do that when Prolog's involved :-) | 00:02 |
+perlDreamer | but preload.perl will load them anyway | 00:02 |
preaction | right, but they're preloaded anyway | 00:02 |
+perlDreamer | maybe that's the problem there | 00:02 |
SquOnk | I'm doing 8-queens, then MxN-queens, then SEND + MORE = MONEY... | 00:02 |
SquOnk | ...then Hanoi Towers, then Antwerpen Towers... | 00:02 |
SquOnk | ...and if time permits, I'll do some generate-fail-collect examples | 00:03 |
SquOnk | I came up with an evil "initial assignment" for them. | 00:03 |
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CIA-49 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r727348a / (3 files in 3 dirs): | 00:17 |
CIA-49 | webgui: Fix module use issues. Fixes bug#11222 | 00:17 |
CIA-49 | webgui: Remove bad use line from TaxDriver/EU.pm | 00:17 |
CIA-49 | webgui: Add line for TT2 in testEnvironment.pl - http://bit.ly/1LiFQ5 | 00:17 |
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SquOnk | Is there a way to make users unable AT ALL to access their profiles (even if they knew the URL and typed it by hand)? | 00:28 |
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xdanger | hmm.. I'm doing source install (just for fun to test plebgui) and I've noticed that Net::Subnets is missing from CPAN. Is there some place that I could get it from? | 02:10 |
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xdanger | Oh, found a webgui forum post about it | 02:11 |
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daviddelikat | there seems to be a problem with hover help | 03:26 |
daviddelikat | it never hides a piece of hover text | 03:27 |
@preaction | what problem seems to be the officer? | 03:27 |
daviddelikat | it just keeps on piling them up on top of each other | 03:27 |
@preaction | what version? probably a good idea to posts a bugs about it | 03:27 |
daviddelikat | I'm in the bleading edge... | 03:27 |
daviddelikat | it just showed up recently | 03:28 |
daviddelikat | I was wondering if anybody is working in that area | 03:28 |
daviddelikat | or perhaps I have broken it myself | 03:29 |
@preaction | even if they are, better an extra bug than something that goes unnoticed | 03:29 |
+perlDreamer | where is the hoverhelp in question? | 03:31 |
+perlDreamer | oh, and here's another bug | 03:31 |
daviddelikat | its on my dev machine | 03:31 |
daviddelikat | http://delikat.homeip.net:8080/ | 03:31 |
+perlDreamer | I make a bad straight-man, daviddelikat... | 03:31 |
+perlDreamer | it is for an asset, operation, something else? | 03:31 |
daviddelikat | its in the EMS submission asset | 03:32 |
+perlDreamer | oh, well, contact the developer and let him know about it :) | 03:32 |
daviddelikat | I just put together a bunch of forms into tabs and now it ... | 03:32 |
daviddelikat | I've been talking to him all night, no response | 03:32 |
+perlDreamer | some developers... | 03:33 |
daviddelikat | I don't like talking to myself | 03:33 |
daviddelikat | its bad for business | 03:33 |
daviddelikat | i'm not sure i get the 'straight-man' thing | 03:33 |
daviddelikat | are we doing a cop sow theme? | 03:34 |
daviddelikat | s/sow/show/ | 03:34 |
daviddelikat | my dragnet is pretty rusty | 03:34 |
+perlDreamer | not a cop show, comedy stand-up | 03:35 |
daviddelikat | heres a pic http://imagebin.ca/view/Sn5FiC.html | 03:36 |
daviddelikat | thats kinda rusty too | 03:37 |
daviddelikat | last standup routine I saw was ~ 20 years ago in the smokey lounge at my frat house | 03:37 |
daviddelikat | now that I think about it I think I've seen this before | 03:40 |
daviddelikat | but as usual I can't recollect how it was fixed... | 03:40 |
+perlDreamer | is this the standard asset edit form? | 03:40 |
daviddelikat | no its malformed by my program | 03:40 |
daviddelikat | :) | 03:41 |
daviddelikat | when you click the edit button it gives the normal form and hoverhelp is fine there | 03:42 |
+perlDreamer | is this Submission, or SubmissionForm | 03:42 |
daviddelikat | so chances are i messed something up | 03:42 |
daviddelikat | 'num1' is submissionForm; 'title' is submission | 03:43 |
daviddelikat | restarting | 03:56 |
daviddelikat | i :( cache ; cache is :( | 03:57 |
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daviddelikat | I think the problem is that I have it run through process style twice... | 04:05 |
daviddelikat | no thats not it | 04:06 |
@preaction | yeah that could be a problem, esp. if the first one doesn't have a head.tags | 04:06 |
@preaction | when a style is processed, the head tags get zeroed out | 04:07 |
@preaction | (iirc) | 04:07 |
@preaction | much of webgui is very stream-based, very single-request oriented | 04:07 |
daviddelikat | one part was getting double processing | 04:10 |
daviddelikat | cross your fingers | 04:10 |
daviddelikat | brb | 04:10 |
+perlDreamer | I'm off to orchestra practice | 04:23 |
+perlDreamer | catch y'all later tonight | 04:23 |
daviddelikat | enjoy | 04:23 |
@preaction | indeed | 04:23 |
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elnino | I created a prototype with children, but when I clicked on the prototype in the admin bar,it only creatd the top level asset... How may I get it's children copied over as well? | 06:35 |
@preaction | you have to use packages for that | 06:35 |
elnino | k. let me try. | 06:36 |
elnino | hmm. ok. It would be nice if it opened the top level asset for editing, if I create an rfe for that, do I have a chance that it be implemented? | 06:38 |
elnino | or maybe an option. I can see benefits to both. | 06:39 |
CIA-49 | webgui: daviddelikat master * r3b9902e / (11 files in 7 dirs): cleaned up the EMS submission system - http://bit.ly/GhZ4o | 07:01 |
CIA-49 | webgui: daviddelikat master * rf1ccdb0 / t/Asset/Wobject/EventManagementSystem.t : fixed a test - http://bit.ly/1CB4o8 | 07:01 |
CIA-49 | webgui: daviddelikat master * rd0c8554 / (8 files in 7 dirs): Merge branch 'master' into EMS - http://bit.ly/2iR8Gz | 07:01 |
CIA-49 | webgui: daviddelikat master * rc089da4 / docs/changelog/7.x.x.txt : added comment to the changelog - http://bit.ly/2sqviV | 07:01 |
daviddelikat | off for tonight | 07:12 |
elnino | bye | 07:13 |
daviddelikat | probably bakc on Saturday | 07:13 |
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+perlDreamer | everybody went home... | 08:10 |
@preaction | you still have me to kick around | 08:31 |
@preaction | oh, wait, no, bedtime | 08:31 |
+perlDreamer | nooo....!!!! | 08:31 |
+perlDreamer | okay, bedtime | 08:32 |
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+BartJol | plainhao: can you remove items from the bazaar? | 16:26 |
+BartJol | JDanPl accidently added an iten 2 times | 16:27 |
+BartJol | his internet connection is flapping, so he asked me to ask it | 16:27 |
@plainhao | bazaar? i'll see if i can, but i might not have privileges there | 16:29 |
+BartJol | well, I'll just ask the next | 16:29 |
@plainhao | doesn't seem i have privileges, BartJol | 16:37 |
+BartJol | ok | 16:37 |
+BartJol | no problemo | 16:37 |
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+BartJol | preaction: wake? | 17:48 |
+BartJol | awake? | 17:48 |
@preaction | yep, sup? | 17:48 |
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+BartJol | JDanPl added a bazaar item twice accidently | 17:49 |
+BartJol | he asked me to remove it, but I can't | 17:49 |
@preaction | url? | 17:49 |
+BartJol | so now I'm asking you | 17:49 |
+BartJol | http://www.webgui.org/bazaar/grouptextup-and-groupidtextup2 | 17:50 |
@preaction | ooh, i like that better than the normal grouptext macro | 17:50 |
@preaction | then if the number of items is odd, the last one could be a catch-all | 17:51 |
@preaction | but okay, i'll delete this one | 17:51 |
+BartJol | yeah, the macro is nice, I saw a preview | 17:51 |
@preaction | done | 17:53 |
+BartJol | gratias | 17:53 |
+BartJol | s/t/c/ | 17:53 |
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+perlDreamer | it's time to play everybody's favorite game show | 18:35 |
+perlDreamer | how long does it take for the progress bar to die | 18:35 |
+perlDreamer | I'm your host, perlDreamer, and today's guest website is heavily loaded | 18:35 |
+perlDreamer | Will it finish, or not? | 18:35 |
+BartJol | ooh | 18:36 |
+perlDreamer | our first contestant, from the Netherlands. What do you think? | 18:36 |
+BartJol | I think it will break horribly | 18:36 |
+BartJol | leaving traces around the globe | 18:37 |
+perlDreamer | so far the process has been running for 6 minutes | 18:37 |
+perlDreamer | any rebuttals from the audience? | 18:37 |
+BartJol | what can I win? | 18:39 |
+perlDreamer | A free web-based Content Management System capable of scaling up to enterprise needs. | 18:39 |
+perlDreamer | With a newly fixed progress bar | 18:39 |
+BartJol | that's a fairytale | 18:40 |
+perlDreamer | well, at least half of it is | 18:40 |
+BartJol | well, I'm of impregnating my wall tiles | 18:42 |
+BartJol | eeeh | 18:42 |
+BartJol | that was a dutchism | 18:42 |
+BartJol | no babies of mine are on their way | 18:43 |
+BartJol | adieu | 18:43 |
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+perlDreamer | just dies at 8:45 | 18:45 |
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@preaction | what's Bart's last name? he contribued a macro to core and he's not on the docs/credits.txt | 19:15 |
@preaction | also didn't Trex contribute some fixes? | 19:16 |
@preaction | and Rogier and other people from the TWG | 19:17 |
@preaction | Patspam's contemporary, Andy contributed some icons | 19:17 |
@preaction | is that Andy Grundman? | 19:17 |
+perlDreamer | Jol | 19:21 |
+perlDreamer | Andy Smith | 19:21 |
+perlDreamer | Rogier is Rogier Voogt | 19:21 |
+perlDreamer | serif is... | 19:21 |
+perlDreamer | that tall dark haired lady from Knowmad | 19:21 |
+perlDreamer | I think Rory contributed some things as well | 19:24 |
+perlDreamer | and some people from a place called Plain Black did a few things | 19:25 |
@preaction | yeah, i'm adding Hao, Paul, and Steve Opal | 19:27 |
nuba | wasnt it pain back? ;) | 19:27 |
+perlDreamer | Also Meg, John and Tabb | 19:27 |
@preaction | they're in there | 19:27 |
@preaction | what about Lauralyn? | 19:27 |
+perlDreamer | from what I can remember, she hasn't contributed any code | 19:27 |
+perlDreamer | just huge amounts of forum posts, bugs, RFEs and wiki pages | 19:28 |
@preaction | but did Koen contribute code? | 19:28 |
@preaction | i know Laura Rummage didn't, she was a tech writer | 19:28 |
@preaction | Kristi is on there too | 19:29 |
@preaction | Jamie Vrbsky | 19:29 |
@preaction | etc... | 19:29 |
@preaction | Alan Smithee... nice... | 19:29 |
+perlDreamer | Koen may indeed have done some coding | 19:31 |
+perlDreamer | Care to consult on a bug? It's the progress bar dying bug. | 19:31 |
@preaction | sure | 19:31 |
+perlDreamer | You need a big website, and to run Edit Branch on it | 19:31 |
+perlDreamer | The PB just freezes/dies | 19:32 |
+perlDreamer | Web browser says done | 19:32 |
+perlDreamer | but it doesn't do any redirecting | 19:32 |
@preaction | does the edit branch complete? | 19:32 |
+perlDreamer | no | 19:32 |
@preaction | you're running the WRE right? | 19:32 |
+perlDreamer | yes | 19:32 |
@preaction | check /data/wre/var/logs/wremonitor.log and see if wremonitor killed anything | 19:32 |
+perlDreamer | oooh! | 19:33 |
+perlDreamer | Log says all is well with MySQL, and spectre. | 19:34 |
+perlDreamer | nothing about apache in it near the times it's shutdown | 19:34 |
@preaction | does it stall before it quits? | 19:34 |
@preaction | is Bart from Procolix? | 19:35 |
+perlDreamer | I don't know, and yes | 19:35 |
+perlDreamer | it's runaway monitor | 19:35 |
@preaction | you're running that? | 19:35 |
@preaction | or the wremonitor's runaway monitor? | 19:36 |
+perlDreamer | it's some cron job | 19:36 |
@preaction | rogier is United Knowledge right? | 19:38 |
+perlDreamer | Yes | 19:38 |
CIA-49 | webgui: Doug Bell master * r3561165 / docs/credits.txt : added a bunch of nice people - http://bit.ly/Kibdl | 19:41 |
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+perlDreamer | mducharme contributed some LDAP fixes | 19:49 |
+perlDreamer | documentation rewrites | 19:49 |
+perlDreamer | also david delikat | 19:49 |
@preaction | right, David | 19:50 |
@preaction | mducharme... need a real name for that one | 19:50 |
+perlDreamer | mducharme-work: ping | 19:51 |
+perlDreamer | I really, really like template attachments | 19:52 |
+perlDreamer | I think it has one unthought of feature | 19:52 |
@preaction | that's frodwith care of the Alumni group | 19:52 |
+perlDreamer | and that is that you can now easily find out every file that a template uses | 19:52 |
+perlDreamer | so that if we wanted to change underying PB include files, you could walk through the attachments and upgrade custom templates | 19:53 |
@preaction | that was one of the reasons i wanted it ;) | 19:53 |
@preaction | hell, that was the main reason i wanted it | 19:53 |
+perlDreamer | well, you and frodwith are brilliant | 19:53 |
+perlDreamer | even if the code needed some i18n | 19:53 |
@preaction | we just need to get atachments talking to filepump and then we're golden | 19:53 |
+perlDreamer | we need a $15M grant just to work on core code for 1 year | 19:54 |
@preaction | 15M? 0.15M would be enough for 3 people | 19:56 |
+perlDreamer | You, Haarg, JT. You're going to need a designer or 2. | 20:00 |
+perlDreamer | and I'm selfish enough to want to include me, and some other non-PB folk | 20:00 |
+perlDreamer | because, hey, with $15M there should be enough to share | 20:00 |
@preaction | okay, .25M then | 20:01 |
@preaction | but really, with how things go, we don't need designers. we just need someone to put two html tags together | 20:02 |
CIA-49 | webgui: Doug Bell master * r9b4ac74 / docs/credits.txt : added some more wonderful people - http://bit.ly/1oO7Cp | 20:02 |
+perlDreamer | I was thinking they would finish the zenification of the templates | 20:05 |
+perlDreamer | in any case, I'm off to the gym | 20:06 |
+perlDreamer | maybe I'll buy a lottery ticket, too | 20:06 |
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David_ | 2008/10/04 00:09:46 - ERROR - spectre.conf - POE::Kernel::_dispatch_event[1012] - CRON: Response for job www.domain.com.conf-pbcron0000000000000004 had a communications error. <HTML>?<HEAD><TITLE>An Error Occurred</TITLE></HEAD>?<BODY>?<H1>An Error Occurred</H1>?500 Internal Server Error?</BODY>?</HTML> | 21:22 |
David_ | sorry | 21:22 |
David_ | i am getting this error everytime my forms tried to send emails | 21:22 |
David_ | and the emails do not go out | 21:22 |
David_ | anybody can help? | 21:24 |
@preaction | David_: cd /data/WebGUI/sbin; perl spectre.pl --test; and put the output in a pastebin somewhere | 21:29 |
David_ | running connecitivy test testing mydomain.conf tests completed | 21:30 |
@preaction | okay, so spectre can communicate just fine. connect to the mysql database and run "SELECT COUNT(*) FROM mailQueue", are there messages in the queue? | 21:32 |
@preaction | that 500 error is actually caused by LWP, usually because of a timeout | 21:32 |
@preaction | is your site under strain? | 21:32 |
David_ | no | 21:32 |
@preaction | no to which question? | 21:34 |
David_ | site under strain | 21:34 |
David_ | i am running the mysql coommand | 21:34 |
David_ | count 0 | 21:36 |
@preaction | then all the mail is sent out | 21:36 |
David_ | then why am i getting these errors | 21:37 |
David_ | there are constant | 21:38 |
@preaction | do "SELECT * FROM WorkflowInstance WHERE workflowId='pbcron0000000000000004'" and pastebin the output (not here, to a pastebin, www.pastebin.com) | 21:39 |
David_ | done i get empty set | 21:44 |
@preaction | then they were just temporary errors. spectre was having some trouble connecting to webgui | 21:45 |
@preaction | when a backup is running, that can happen (backups need to lock the entire site to read-only) | 21:45 |
David_ | backups are not configure on the box yet | 21:45 |
David_ | i get the same error every minute | 21:46 |
David_ | that can't be normal | 21:46 |
@preaction | always the the pbcron00000..4? and nothing in the WorkflowInstance table? try restarting spectre | 21:47 |
David_ | yes same pbcron | 21:48 |
David_ | i restarted the box multiple times | 21:48 |
David_ | doesn't matter that im commiting without approval | 21:48 |
@preaction | then if it's not affecting anything, i wouldn't worry about it | 21:49 |
@preaction | but to humor me, what does "perl spectre.pl --status" say? | 21:49 |
David_ | i pasted it | 21:50 |
@preaction | what's the URL it gave you? | 21:51 |
David_ | http://pastebin.com/m1a4660ad | 21:51 |
@preaction | and if you go into the site it says and type "SELECT * FROM WorkflowInstance" you get empty set? | 21:51 |
David_ | http://pastebin.com/mb5a5cb | 21:53 |
@preaction | okay, nothing untoward there | 21:54 |
@preaction | the pbcron 00004 is the Hourly Maintenance Tasks, which doesn't do the sending mail, so really it's most likely just a temporary hiccup | 21:55 |
David_ | ok let me try my form again | 21:55 |
@preaction | mail does not get sent immediately, it gets queued and sent every 15 minutes (the "Send Queued Mail Messages" scheduler entry) | 21:56 |
David_ | ok let me try to see what happens | 21:57 |
CIA-49 | webgui: Doug Bell master * rc9d1cba / docs/credits.txt : even more awesome people - http://bit.ly/48jGjb | 22:05 |
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@preaction | http://www.perl.org/ <- oh nice | 22:36 |
+perlDreamer | http://use.perl.org/~TeeJay/journal/39877 | 22:43 |
+perlDreamer | I like the site redesign | 22:43 |
@preaction | yeah, it's great | 22:44 |
@preaction | also, WebGUI 8 is using Moose! yay! | 22:44 |
+perlDreamer | it is? | 22:44 |
+perlDreamer | when did that happen? | 22:44 |
@preaction | yup | 22:44 |
@preaction | last week | 22:44 |
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@preaction | the new Definition stuff is gonna use Moose instead | 22:45 |
@preaction | since we're really just reimplementing it | 22:45 |
+perlDreamer | maybe I should hold off working on the Style Template stuff | 22:45 |
@preaction | so now i can use the little parts of it | 22:45 |
@preaction | style template stuff? | 22:45 |
+perlDreamer | until y'all have it all settled down | 22:45 |
+perlDreamer | yeah, I have 2 wg8 jobs | 22:45 |
@preaction | oh monkey, yeah that's put on hold for now | 22:45 |
@preaction | and the TT stuff as well | 22:45 |
+perlDreamer | 1) Split Style out of Template | 22:45 |
+perlDreamer | and 2) H::T to T::T conversion | 22:45 |
@preaction | i mean, if you want to do it that's great, but it's not a requirement anymore | 22:46 |
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+perlDreamer | huh? | 22:46 |
+perlDreamer | so, if we're using Moose, how close is DBIx::Class and the like? | 22:47 |
+perlDreamer | cuz in that link I posted, T::T and DBIx::Class were the main reasons he won't use wG | 22:48 |
@preaction | i'm replying to it now. DBIx::Class is about 50-100% slower | 22:50 |
@preaction | just for instantiating an asset | 22:50 |
+perlDreamer | ouch | 22:51 |
@preaction | but i haven't done any tweaking, and WebGUI has a huge array of caching and other performance tweaks | 22:51 |
@preaction | so there's really no real answer there yet | 22:52 |
+perlDreamer | I wonder if people take the slowdown in exchange for ease of use/programming | 22:52 |
@preaction | yeah. my time is more expensive than CPU time | 22:53 |
+perlDreamer | since we're link sharing today: http://rss.slashdot.org/~r/Slashdot/slashdot/~3/7pVj1c0lO28/HTTP-Intermediary-Layer-From-Google-Could-Dramatically-Speed-Up-the-Web | 22:54 |
@preaction | yeah, saw that. seems nice if it really works | 22:55 |
+perlDreamer | nice reply :) | 23:01 |
@preaction | it pretty much is what he wants. just not mature yet | 23:01 |
@preaction | i'm going for Django in Perl, really | 23:01 |
@preaction | because he's right. both Mojo and Catalyst are just stepping stones to a site. the same bullcrap you have to write over and over (pages, blogs, etc...) | 23:02 |
@preaction | and since nothing is in the core, upgrading is a bitch (like Drupal) | 23:02 |
@preaction | (that's the reason why CTC went with us back in 6.x instead of Drupal, JT put the basic stuff into core) | 23:04 |
+perlDreamer | it is nice to have it all rolled together | 23:06 |
@preaction | exactly | 23:06 |
@preaction | but the downside is "where do i start adding my own stuff", i want to fix that part too | 23:06 |
@preaction | my problem is i know too much about frameworks and CMS and web and blah blah blah | 23:07 |
@preaction | and i don't have enough time to implement it all | 23:07 |
+perlDreamer | that's how I feel about testing | 23:10 |
+perlDreamer | so many tests to write | 23:10 |
+perlDreamer | but not so much time | 23:11 |
+perlDreamer | but I was very encouraged by the people who stepped up to help write macro tests | 23:11 |
@preaction | indeed, that is nice | 23:12 |
@preaction | David_: please do not private message without asking. is the pbcron000000...4 still running? is it in the WorkflowInstance table? are there new errors in the log? | 23:39 |
David_ | sorry | 23:39 |
@preaction | one possible problem could be DNS resolution, is your sitename in the /etc/hosts file pointing to localhost? | 23:39 |
David_ | can i paste you my host file | 23:39 |
@preaction | shouldn't need to, does "127.0.0.1 hostname" exist as a line in there? | 23:40 |
David_ | yes | 23:40 |
David_ | first line | 23:40 |
David_ | 127.0.0.1 localhost | 23:40 |
David_ | well i have an issue with that i think | 23:41 |
@preaction | localhost is the sitename in your config file? | 23:41 |
David_ | no | 23:41 |
@preaction | the first sitename in your webgui config file | 23:41 |
@preaction | you want 127.0.0.1 sitename | 23:41 |
David_ | i guess a better question would be what exactly should be on my host file | 23:42 |
David_ | i have to 127.0.0.1 localhost | 23:42 |
@preaction | so after "localhost", add whatever your domain name is | 23:42 |
@preaction | and if there are more than one, put them all, seperated by whitespace | 23:42 |
David_ | i have a single domain and it should point to the loop address right | 23:43 |
@preaction | in the /etc/hosts file, yes | 23:43 |
David_ | so i have 127.0.0.1 localhost www.domain1.com www.domain2.com | 23:44 |
David_ | that's it | 23:44 |
@preaction | yeah. as long as "www.domain1.com" matches exactly the first item in the sitename : [ ... ] key of the webgui config | 23:45 |
David_ | well the way this is configure in the sitename is : www that's it | 23:45 |
@preaction | that's bad. the first entry in the sitename key should be the web-facing domain name | 23:46 |
@preaction | the domain name the user enters | 23:46 |
@preaction | if spectre tried to look up "www", it wouldn't find anything, and that could cause the error you see | 23:46 |
+perlDreamer | I don't believe this. | 23:47 |
+perlDreamer | I'm getting spam from somebody on the forums | 23:47 |
@preaction | nice | 23:47 |
+perlDreamer | What kind of public flaming do you think that deserves? | 23:47 |
@preaction | nuclear | 23:47 |
David_ | so preaction how do i go about changing the sitename, is it possible ? | 23:49 |
David_ | at least to match the host file | 23:49 |
@preaction | David_: yes. all you have to do is change it and then restart webgui | 23:49 |
@preaction | (and spectre too) | 23:49 |
+perlDreamer | change it in the WebGUI configuration file | 23:50 |
+perlDreamer | in the sitename entry | 23:50 |
+perlDreamer | "sitename" : [ .... ], | 23:50 |
David_ | ok change sitename to whole www.domain.com same as i have in the host file | 23:55 |
CIA-49 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r97ce509 / (8 files in 4 dirs): | 23:57 |
CIA-49 | webgui: Adding new Style templates and CSS from TWG. | 23:57 |
CIA-49 | webgui: The new css/wg-css replaces /webgui.css. It is removed in this upgrade. - http://bit.ly/1AYrND | 23:57 |
+perlDreamer | that Rogier does nice work | 23:59 |
+perlDreamer | everything packaged up and documented | 23:59 |
David_ | now at restart httpd: apr_sockaddr_info_get() failed for localhost.localdomain | 23:59 |
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David_ | and still mail sitting there | 00:00 |
* perlDreamer heads out to pick up kids from school | 00:00 |
+perlDreamer | bbiaw | 00:00 |
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+perlDreamer | preaction: may I move the LDAP credentials into WebGUI::Test so they can be used in multiple places without copying them? | 01:18 |
@preaction | sure | 01:19 |
+perlDreamer | LDAPLink needs an MVC makeover | 01:26 |
@preaction | yeah | 01:27 |
mducharme | what's happening with ldap? | 01:30 |
@preaction | how so? | 01:31 |
+perlDreamer | mducharme, there were two bugs filed against LDAP in wG. | 01:31 |
+perlDreamer | I'm just trying to build some tests to make sure we don't break anything while fixing the bugs. | 01:31 |
+perlDreamer | you can find the bugs on the bug board, on the 1st page. | 01:32 |
mducharme | ahh yes | 01:33 |
mducharme | I discovered that first one myself years ago | 01:33 |
mducharme | thought it was simply by design | 01:33 |
mducharme | the 11217 | 01:33 |
+perlDreamer | bad status reporting? | 01:33 |
+perlDreamer | I'm going to skip the part where I try to convince you to do some hacking... | 01:34 |
+perlDreamer | and just ask if there's anything else weird that you've seen | 01:34 |
mducharme | only with the registration | 01:36 |
mducharme | the fact that if webgui is set for ldap auth, that the "register for an account" link or whatever the text is, all it does is gives them a webgui account for their pre-existing ldap account | 01:37 |
+perlDreamer | instead of driving an account back to the LDAP server? | 01:37 |
mducharme | very little benefit in that since the automatic registration was put in so that the webgui account gets auotmatically created | 01:37 |
mducharme | exactly, or instead of creating it as a standard webgui auth | 01:37 |
mducharme | there are situations where corporations use this thing for their public websites, and they use LDAP inside, but don't necessarily want people on the outside to have LDAP accounts, but want them to be able to register | 01:38 |
@preaction | yeah, that's because you can't use two auth modules at the same time | 01:39 |
@preaction | at least, not fully | 01:39 |
mducharme | you can have some users in the system with ldap accounts and some with webgui accounts though | 01:39 |
@preaction | yes | 01:39 |
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mducharme | I just think that the registration link should either be not an option when using LDAP or should actually do something useful | 01:40 |
mducharme | and it's often nice to use LDAP for internal staff to be able to use their network login to get into webgui and edit stuff or whatever, but also nice to allow visitors to register for webgui auth accounts | 01:42 |
@preaction | in that case, WebGUI should be the "Auth method to use", and you should manually make LDAP accounts for those who need them | 01:43 |
mducharme | webgui registration creating the user in ldap is another option, yes, but that would have to be something that could be turned on or off | 01:43 |
@preaction | that'd be the best way for now | 01:43 |
@preaction | but yes, Auth needs to be completely revisited, and we may or may not have time for 8 (but during the 8 dev cycle it will be looked at, even if we don't get to it right away) | 01:44 |
+perlDreamer | it would only take 1 day to fix LDAPLink | 01:47 |
mducharme | if automatic ldap registration worked when the site auth method to use was set to WebGUI, that would be a big improvement | 01:49 |
mducharme | so that accounts would not have to be manually created for ldap users while still allowing the general public to register for logins | 01:50 |
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@preaction | wow, this site must have thousands of orphaned version tags | 02:15 |
+perlDreamer | I've seen that problem several times | 02:15 |
+perlDreamer | I wish I knew what was doing it | 02:15 |
@preaction | not surprising, this site probably has 100 new tags a day | 02:15 |
+perlDreamer | then it should be fairly easy to find | 02:16 |
@preaction | how many tags do each * count for? | 02:16 |
+perlDreamer | that wasn't in english | 02:17 |
@preaction | http://github.com/plainblack/webgui/blob/master/docs/upgrades/upgrade_7.7.18-7.7.19.pl | 02:17 |
@preaction | there's a * counter in that sub now | 02:17 |
@preaction | each * counts for 100 tags | 02:17 |
@preaction | 100 orphaned tags | 02:18 |
@preaction | this is how many hundreds i have so far | 02:18 |
@preaction | *********************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************** | 02:18 |
@preaction | wait, 600 more just happened | 02:18 |
mducharme | just happened just now? | 02:20 |
+perlDreamer | preaction went * | 02:20 |
mducharme | heh | 02:21 |
+perlDreamer | preaction, I ported that code from the other branch. patspam rewrote the sub to be a lot faster. | 02:21 |
+perlDreamer | maybe it needs a unless $quiet tagged to the end of it? | 02:21 |
@preaction | yeah, it was fast. there was just 20000+ tags | 02:21 |
+perlDreamer | maybe we should pull that method out, and stick it into VersionTag? | 02:22 |
+perlDreamer | sounds quite useful | 02:22 |
+perlDreamer | preaction: when you clink on LDAP Links in the Admin Bar, what happens? | 02:52 |
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+perlDreamer | stupid fedora perl | 03:31 |
+perlDreamer | that's #2 | 03:31 |
+perlDreamer | patspam, which ubuntu do you use? | 03:31 |
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topsub | hey guys | 04:52 |
topsub | whoa, you guys change the home page of webgui | 04:52 |
+patspam | perlDreamer: karmic koala | 05:48 |
+patspam | 9.10 | 05:48 |
+patspam | um, desktop | 05:49 |
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elnino | easy question I hope: how do i get a dollar sign to show up in the variant in shop? | 07:15 |
+perlDreamer | that's not an easy question | 07:15 |
+perlDreamer | WebGUI's shop is designed to be currency agnostic | 07:16 |
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elnino | doh. I guess I'll go to sleep then. =) | 07:16 |
+perlDreamer | however, I think if you look at the template variables for the variants, you'll see a way | 07:16 |
+perlDreamer | to build the dropdown by hand, and to add a dollar sign | 07:16 |
elnino | ah. I see. I think I have it. Thanks. | 07:18 |
+perlDreamer | yw :) | 07:18 |
elnino | it's too bad that donation and events can't be related products. | 07:19 |
+perlDreamer | it could be a 9 character change to Asset::Sku::Product on line 1008 | 07:25 |
elnino | cool. | 07:25 |
elnino | back ot he dollar sign... I could only change it where it lists the variants to edit, but not in the display of the drop list.. Infact, I don't see the drop list being built anywhere... must be magic | 07:26 |
elnino | oh. I see. | 07:28 |
elnino | it was magic. | 07:28 |
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+perlDreamer | wow, got kicked off | 07:53 |
elnino | what'd you do? | 07:55 |
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elnino | bye all. | 08:19 |
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CIA-49 | webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.7 * r442a5a2 / lib/WebGUI/Operation/LDAPLink.pm : Fix pagination issues in the List LDAPLinks screen. - http://bit.ly/3p53QR | 08:20 |
CIA-49 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r7c94f6f / lib/WebGUI/Operation/LDAPLink.pm : Fix pagination issues in the List LDAPLinks screen. - http://bit.ly/4fP0xd | 08:20 |
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SquOnk | Greetings | 15:41 |
SDuensin | Greetings. | 16:23 |
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SquOnk | Is there a way for the LDAP-Profile synch to happen automatically on _every_ login by the user. I've been able to synch only on registration, admin create or admin update. | 16:33 |
SquOnk | Sorry, the first sentence was a question ;-) | 16:33 |
SDuensin | Dunno that dude. I still need to set up LDAP for myself. | 16:37 |
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ckotil | sounds like a perform on login workflow would be needed to do that. | 16:49 |
SquOnk | ckotil: Oh. Haven't done anything like that before. | 17:06 |
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ckotil | Im not sure there is such a workflow trigger | 17:13 |
ckotil | SDuensin: Ive been wanting to do ldap for a while now to populate my groups. I finally am up to a version of webgui that i can do ldaps right out of the box. but so far i have only seen documentation populating groups when you use ldap authentication. problem is that we are using ldap for authorization only | 17:20 |
SDuensin | That's why I've not messed with it. LDAP just seems funky all over. | 17:21 |
ckotil | we're using it all over the place. apache, our web apps (other than webgui), and unix systems | 17:23 |
ckotil | but for authentication we still use kerberos, our cosign (SSO) with kerberos backend | 17:23 |
ckotil | s/our/or | 17:23 |
SDuensin | All I know is that I need something. Just not decided on what I want that to be yet. | 17:24 |
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@Haarg | morning patspam | 17:39 |
+patspam | hey Haarg | 17:39 |
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+perlDreamer | anyone else use OpenDNS ? | 18:37 |
SquOnk | perlDreamer: Is there a way for the LDAP-Profile synch to happen automatically on _every_ login by the user? I've been able to synch only on registration, admin create or admin update. | 18:38 |
+perlDreamer | there's a workflow for doing syn, SquOnk | 18:39 |
+perlDreamer | sync | 18:39 |
+perlDreamer | syncProfilesToLdap | 18:39 |
+perlDreamer | then all one would need is a workflow trigger | 18:39 |
+perlDreamer | or to put the workflow SyncProfilesToLdap into a frequent cron job | 18:40 |
SquOnk | perlDreamer: I know. I have it and it's enabled. | 18:40 |
SquOnk | perlDreamer: But does the sync happen on every login? | 18:40 |
+perlDreamer | no | 18:40 |
SquOnk | perlDreamer: Ok, so how do I go setting up such trigger? | 18:40 |
+perlDreamer | you can run a script on every login, but not a WebGUI workflow | 18:40 |
+perlDreamer | WebGUI::Auth, sub login | 18:41 |
+perlDreamer | setup a workflow containing the SyncProfileToLdap activity | 18:41 |
+perlDreamer | add a setting to Settings that lets you choose a workflow to run on login | 18:41 |
+perlDreamer | in the login sub, check to see if the workflow is defined, if so... | 18:42 |
+perlDreamer | see the code in createAccountSave that creates a Workflow Instance and starts it | 18:42 |
+perlDreamer | near line 336 | 18:42 |
+perlDreamer | that's a workflow trigger | 18:42 |
+perlDreamer | and then... | 18:42 |
+perlDreamer | realizing what an awesome feature it is, submit an RFE with a patch for RFE day on Monday | 18:43 |
SquOnk | Does an RFE for that makes sense or it's something not that general? | 18:43 |
+perlDreamer | it makes tons of sense | 18:43 |
SquOnk | perlDreamer: Will do then ;-) | 18:43 |
+perlDreamer | much better to run a workflow than some script | 18:43 |
SquOnk | perlDreamer: I'll try to hack it tomorrow though | 18:43 |
+perlDreamer | I'm going to drop off to reset my DNS settings. Be back quickly (I hope)... | 18:46 |
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perlDreamer1 | yeah, that worked really well... | 19:00 |
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perlDreamer1 | hey, dreamersgirl | 19:06 |
dreamersgirl | hi! | 19:07 |
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+patspam | perlDreamer: yesterday I was having dns issues so i revisited openDNS, but looks so commercial now | 19:29 |
+perlDreamer | with their for pay offering? yeah. | 19:30 |
+perlDreamer | Fortunately the free methods still works | 19:30 |
+perlDreamer | except for looking up LDAP urls that don't exist | 19:30 |
+perlDreamer | that will make httpd very unhappy | 19:30 |
+perlDreamer | had a load of 10 on my poor laptop | 19:30 |
+patspam | ah that's better, I can opt out of my isp's dumb "dns assistant" | 19:32 |
+patspam | I prefer dns lookups to fail.. since that triggers ffx to do a google search for me | 19:32 |
+perlDreamer | man, no dynamic window resizing in CentOS under VirtualBox | 19:33 |
+perlDreamer | big bummer | 19:33 |
+patspam | centos as guest or host? | 19:34 |
+perlDreamer | guest | 19:34 |
+perlDreamer | X in CentOS is too old | 19:34 |
+patspam | with virtualbox tools installed in the guest? | 19:34 |
+perlDreamer | yes | 19:34 |
+patspam | dang | 19:34 |
+perlDreamer | and unlike my host, I have to have a CentOS VM for release testing | 19:34 |
+patspam | does copy/paste work? | 19:34 |
+patspam | that's even more annoying when it isn't supported | 19:34 |
+perlDreamer | haven't tried it yet. It's what the guest additions installer told me. | 19:35 |
* patspam wanders off for lunch | 19:36 |
@Haarg | i stick to an install without X or guess additions and just use ssh | 19:36 |
+perlDreamer | I haven't figured out how to make FF connect to the httpd inside Vbox, which is useful sometimes | 19:37 |
+perlDreamer | otherwise, that's a great idea | 19:37 |
+perlDreamer | How do you tell the IP address? | 19:37 |
+perlDreamer | doesn't it create a whole virtual network to use? | 19:38 |
+perlDreamer | I mean, subnet. | 19:38 |
@Haarg | depends on how you set it up | 19:38 |
@Haarg | by default it just does nat, which doesn't work for that | 19:38 |
@Haarg | if you have it set up using a host only adapter though your machine gets a network interface for communication with the vm | 19:40 |
+perlDreamer | but using the host-only adapter, do you still get bridged access to the internet from the guest? | 19:43 |
@Haarg | yes | 19:44 |
@Haarg | it still functions as a gateway for the vm | 19:44 |
CIA-49 | webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.7 * r7e931ad / (5 files in 5 dirs): Fix status reporting for successful connects but bad binds. Fixes bug #11216 - http://bit.ly/3SB2Rk | 19:51 |
CIA-49 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * rbc21f90 / (5 files in 5 dirs): Fix status reporting for successful connects but bad binds. Fixes bug #11216 - http://bit.ly/2cuX7V | 19:51 |
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+perlDreamer | mducharme, mducharme-work, that set of commits was LDAP changes, if you're curious. | 20:06 |
+perlDreamer | there will be another set in a little while | 20:06 |
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@preaction | wow. adding Moose and running Devel::Cover makes it take a LOT longer | 20:27 |
@preaction | it's been 15 minutes now, for one module's tests | 20:28 |
+perlDreamer | is that Moose, or Devel::Cover | 20:31 |
+perlDreamer | maybe you could tell Devel::Cover to ignore Moose | 20:31 |
@preaction | oh, duh | 20:32 |
@preaction | but i think i already did tell it to only include WebGUI::* modules | 20:32 |
@preaction | that's what wgd test --cover="" should do | 20:32 |
@preaction | but i suppose i should make sure | 20:32 |
+perlDreamer | --cover="" sets up the cover_db dir | 20:34 |
+perlDreamer | coverOptions is the right thing | 20:34 |
@preaction | when was that added? i don't remember that one | 20:35 |
* perlDreamer doesn't know | 20:35 |
+perlDreamer | that's off of HEAD in master | 20:35 |
@preaction | i thought the default options were to just do webgui files | 20:35 |
@preaction | ah | 20:35 |
+perlDreamer | default options are select,WebGUI,ignore,^t | 20:35 |
+perlDreamer | I'd check the first coverage report that's generated to see if Moose crept in | 20:36 |
+perlDreamer | while you're waiting... :) | 20:36 |
@preaction | yeah, that should be "do anything in WebGUI, but ignore WebGUI/t" | 20:36 |
@preaction | heh, it's still building. i did two tests, the second one's running now, so another 20 minutes | 20:37 |
+perlDreamer | I could use some help with an LDAP test, setting up a user from inside a test | 20:37 |
@preaction | enough time to shower, i think something allergic to me is on my skin :( | 20:37 |
+perlDreamer | ugh | 20:37 |
+perlDreamer | go shower | 20:37 |
+perlDreamer | I'll keep digging | 20:37 |
@preaction | the "Samuel Norton" user is the root user | 20:37 |
@preaction | of the LDAP server | 20:37 |
@preaction | so he should be able to add users | 20:37 |
+perlDreamer | yes, I need to add a user, and then register on the test server, and then change his DN | 20:38 |
@preaction | but LDAP is still rather opaque to me | 20:38 |
@preaction | ahh | 20:38 |
@preaction | brb then | 20:38 |
+perlDreamer | how do you admin the server? | 20:38 |
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CIA-49 | webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.7 * r14682b7 / t/Auth.t : Add a test to check what the login method returns in the normal case, with no login messages. - http://bit.ly/1y5bSi | 20:44 |
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CIA-49 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * rb88a7bc / (4 files in 3 dirs): Escape single quotes sent to the ProgressBar. Fixes but #11229. - http://bit.ly/3SEXIq | 21:18 |
CIA-49 | webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.7 * rdd9d158 / (4 files in 3 dirs): Escape single quotes sent to the ProgressBar. Fixes but #11229. - http://bit.ly/1So4Ax | 21:18 |
@preaction | perlDreamer: it's rather weird. you have to create an "ldif" file and use "ldapmodify < ldif" to modify the ldap server | 21:21 |
+perlDreamer | It would be easier to do it remotely | 21:21 |
+perlDreamer | like this: http://gist.github.com/234085 | 21:22 |
+perlDreamer | see the code at the bottom | 21:22 |
+perlDreamer | connect with authority | 21:22 |
+perlDreamer | add a DN | 21:22 |
+perlDreamer | allow the user to login | 21:22 |
+perlDreamer | err, register, then login | 21:22 |
+perlDreamer | logout | 21:22 |
+perlDreamer | modify the DN | 21:22 |
+perlDreamer | then try to login in again | 21:22 |
@preaction | yes, it is easier to do it w/ Net::LDAP ;) | 21:22 |
+perlDreamer | it should fail without the patch, and auto update with the patch | 21:22 |
+perlDreamer | but what's the schema for adding a user | 21:23 |
+perlDreamer | and which users are prepopulated? | 21:23 |
+perlDreamer | could I see your default ldif file that you used for populating the users? | 21:23 |
+perlDreamer | also, it might be worth scrubbing the ldap server nightly to erase test hiccups | 21:23 |
@preaction | heh, i don't have it anymore :( | 21:23 |
@preaction | you'd be better off doing it the Net::LDAP style | 21:24 |
+perlDreamer | that's what I've done, but it's failing | 21:24 |
@preaction | let me work something up quick | 21:24 |
+perlDreamer | I get error code 80, "other" | 21:24 |
@preaction | your paste doesn't seem to have the code you're doing | 21:24 |
+perlDreamer | I haven't gotten past the "add user" phase yet | 21:24 |
@preaction | okay, let me try something then | 21:25 |
+perlDreamer | I stash'ed the code | 21:31 |
+perlDreamer | let me apply it and repaste | 21:31 |
+perlDreamer | http://gist.github.com/234092 | 21:31 |
+perlDreamer | that's what I was really working with, preaction | 21:32 |
+perlDreamer | running in 5 minutes | 21:32 |
@preaction | ah, you're missing the objectClass and userPassword. let me try something and get back to you | 21:34 |
+perlDreamer | preaction++ | 21:35 |
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@preaction | use strict; | 21:42 |
@preaction | use warnings; | 21:42 |
@preaction | use Net::LDAP; | 21:42 |
@preaction | my $ldap = Net::LDAP->new( 'smoke.plainblack.com' ) or die "Couldn't connect: $@"; | 21:42 |
@preaction | $ldap->bind( | 21:42 |
@preaction | 'cn=Samuel Norton,ou=Warden,o=shawshank', | 21:42 |
@preaction | password => 'gooey', | 21:42 |
@preaction | ); | 21:42 |
@preaction | my $result = $ldap->add( 'cn=Brooks Hatlen,ou=Convicts,o=shawshank', | 21:42 |
@preaction | attr => [ | 21:42 |
@preaction | cn => 'Brooks Hatlen', | 21:42 |
@preaction | givenName => 'Brooks', | 21:42 |
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@preaction | sn => 'Hatlen', | 21:42 |
@preaction | ou => 'Convicts', | 21:42 |
@preaction | o => 'shawshank', | 21:42 |
xdanger | =) | 21:42 |
@preaction | objectClass => [ qw( top inetOrgPerson ) ], | 21:42 |
@preaction | userPassword => 'BrooksHatlen', | 21:43 |
@preaction | ] | 21:43 |
@preaction | ); | 21:43 |
@preaction | $result->code && warn "failed to add entry: ", $result->error; | 21:44 |
@preaction | $ldap->delete( 'cn=Brooks Hatlen,ou=Convicts,o=shawshank' ); | 21:44 |
@preaction | $ldap->unbind; | 21:44 |
@preaction | http://pastie.org/697717 | 21:44 |
@preaction | ... nice | 21:44 |
@preaction | http://pastie.org/697717 | 21:44 |
@preaction | it was the missing objectClass that was causing the problem | 21:44 |
@preaction | LDAP... is ... weird... | 21:44 |
@preaction | it is incredibly powerful. it's like another relational database type if you want it to be | 21:44 |
@preaction | all those new databases that just store dicts/hashes of data by an ID could be implemented in an LDAP fashion | 21:44 |
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SquOnk | preaction: LDAP is not to be used as an RDBMS. It's painfully slow for writing. | 22:57 |
@preaction | really? | 22:57 |
@preaction | damn | 22:57 |
SquOnk | preaction: Yes, really. | 22:57 |
@preaction | it that just a product of the implementation? or is that a requirement of the protocol? | 22:57 |
SquOnk | preaction: If you want to have fast serializing, you'll be better of using BerkeleyDB. No relations nor joins however. | 22:58 |
SquOnk | preaction: A little bit of both. | 22:58 |
@preaction | right, but there's those new database-like systems that are just storing hashes with keys | 22:58 |
SquOnk | preaction: LDAP doesn't define the storage mechanism. You can have your directory on an SQL backend (which is NOT recommended AT ALL) | 22:58 |
@preaction | i forget what they're named now | 22:58 |
SquOnk | preaction: Since LDAP models data as a DAG (Directed Acyclic Graph), the relational model is quite bad for it. | 22:59 |
SquOnk | preaction: So, what happened was that the hierarchical model of LDAP can be deployed using several DBM databases. | 22:59 |
SquOnk | preaction: One stores the entries with a single primary key (objectID), the rest are for indexes. | 22:59 |
SquOnk | preaction: Thus, reading is blazing fast. Writing, not much. | 23:00 |
@preaction | KiokuDB, that's the one i'm thinking of | 23:00 |
SquOnk | preaction: With OpenLDAP you can even mock up a database using Perl. | 23:00 |
SquOnk | preaction: Take WebGUI, for instance: you _could_ handle all of the Profile part of it using LDAP. But the rest of it must be done inside a RDBMS. | 23:01 |
SquOnk | preaction: The hierarchichal structure of Assets in WebGUI is not exactly like the one in LDAP, and even if it were I wouldn't use LDAP to store it. | 23:01 |
@preaction | but LDAP is an ODBMS, like KiokuDB. WebGUI could be done (with much modification, of course) with an ODBMS | 23:01 |
SquOnk | preaction: Using an ORDBMS would be better, yes. That's why I push PostgreSQL so much. | 23:02 |
SquOnk | preaction: The lineage thing would be simpler, way faster and less prone to corruption, if subclassed tables were used. | 23:02 |
@preaction | i wonder if using pg would make the DBIx::Class stuff I'm doing faster than the current mysql / WebGUI::Asset | 23:04 |
@preaction | if we migrate to DBIx::Class, there's no cost to migrate to different dbms | 23:04 |
@preaction | but would we get the benefit of pg's ordbms features when using an ORM like DBIx::Class? | 23:04 |
SquOnk | preaction: Yes and no. | 23:09 |
SquOnk | preaction: You cannot use Pg extra features on the client side. | 23:10 |
SquOnk | preaction: You'd have to create stored procedures and use them as if they were tables. | 23:10 |
SquOnk | preaction: Or you have to create custom DBIx::Class methods to handle the special things Pg can do. | 23:10 |
@preaction | ah | 23:10 |
SquOnk | preaction: But the main attractive of going DBIx::Class is being able to run on almost any database, but also being able to quickly migrate from one to the other, thanks to the fairy. | 23:12 |
@preaction | right, i'm already doing it for that reason. i'd just like to be able to take advantage of ever more performance tweaks | 23:17 |
@preaction | DBIx::Class introduces some overhead, so we have to be able to do more tweaks to get it as fast or faster than our current "solution" | 23:17 |
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+perlDreamer | preaction, thanks | 23:38 |
@preaction | for? | 23:38 |
+perlDreamer | LDAP-ification | 23:39 |
@preaction | http://pastie.org/697717 <- so you got this then? | 23:39 |
+perlDreamer | yup | 23:39 |
+perlDreamer | I used the WebGUI Channel logging service | 23:39 |
@preaction | k | 23:39 |
@preaction | ah, mais oui | 23:39 |
@preaction | i believe i've got a great percentage of the FormBuilder tested now, at least as far as the object manipulation goes | 23:40 |
@preaction | just need to start messing with toHtml and the MooseX::Storage stuff (JSON serialization) | 23:40 |
+perlDreamer | cool! | 23:40 |
@preaction | once again TDD makes things easy | 23:40 |
@preaction | took me today, that was it. not even 5 hours | 23:41 |
+perlDreamer | After looking at LDAPlink code the last few days that I think we should start "sanctioned" maintenance projects | 23:41 |
+perlDreamer | like, making LDAPLink an actual enclosed object class | 23:41 |
+perlDreamer | they're things we want done, that should be small and well defined that we can hand off to anyone with tuits/time to help out | 23:42 |
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SquOnk | All right, I'm off | 01:21 |
+perlDreamer | ttyl | 01:21 |
SquOnk | perlDreamer: You'll be here tomorrow? | 01:21 |
+perlDreamer | maybe, maybe not | 01:21 |
+perlDreamer | housework calls | 01:21 |
+perlDreamer | and a model train show :) | 01:21 |
SquOnk | perlDreamer: Ok. I'm going to try the sync on login thing | 01:21 |
SquOnk | perlDreamer: Oh, you like model trains? | 01:21 |
+perlDreamer | you can email me if you have questions, too. | 01:21 |
+perlDreamer | I prefer large trains, but my sons like anything on rails | 01:21 |
SquOnk | perlDreamer: We have a local Perl monger that created a complete control system using Perl and his craftsmanship as an electrical engineer | 01:22 |
+perlDreamer | wow! | 01:22 |
SquOnk | perlDreamer: And he showed us how it works about six meetings ago. | 01:22 |
SquOnk | perlDreamer: Progressive acceleration and all... | 01:22 |
SquOnk | perlDreamer: He used his parallel port to control a home-made signal amplifier connected to the rails where he multiplexed digital pulses. | 01:23 |
SquOnk | perlDreamer: Very cool stuff. | 01:23 |
+perlDreamer | sounds like home built DCC | 01:23 |
SquOnk | perlDreamer: He's no programmer. He hacked up a PerlTk control system to move the trains around... | 01:23 |
SquOnk | ...the changers and even a home-made turntable. | 01:23 |
SquOnk | Very cool stuff. | 01:24 |
SquOnk | Anyway, I'm off. | 01:24 |
SquOnk | perlDreamer: Thanks, I'll write if I get stuck. | 01:24 |
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+perlDreamer | man, that took a very long time | 01:58 |
+perlDreamer | but LDAP DN updates are done | 02:01 |
+perlDreamer | preaction, just so you know, you can't use replace of modify to change the DN of an entry | 02:02 |
+perlDreamer | you have to use moddn | 02:02 |
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CIA-49 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * rc4e63df / (5 files in 4 dirs): Auto update user's DN if it changes on the LDAP server. Fixes bug #11217 - http://bit.ly/2ns4Y5 | 02:16 |
CIA-49 | webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.7 * r0ee28a1 / (5 files in 4 dirs): Auto update user's DN if it changes on the LDAP server. Fixes bug #11217 - http://bit.ly/1RmgNa | 02:16 |
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CIA-49 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * rc4ab124 / lib/WebGUI/Asset/File/GalleryFile/Photo.pm : i18n the Add Photo save button - http://bit.ly/2h3RJH | 02:29 |
CIA-49 | webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.7 * r7eddaab / lib/WebGUI/Asset/File/GalleryFile/Photo.pm : i18n the Add Photo save button - http://bit.ly/CP9Oy | 02:29 |
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CIA-49 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r1f49737 / (4 files in 4 dirs): Allow other users to save photos into another user's album. Fixes bug #11228. - http://bit.ly/Pxl8w | 03:15 |
CIA-49 | webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.7 * ra03d7e8 / (4 files in 4 dirs): Allow other users to save photos into another user's album. Fixes bug #11228. - http://bit.ly/2sR8ei | 03:15 |
+perlDreamer | 5 bugs fixed today | 03:17 |
+perlDreamer | not too shabby | 03:17 |
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daviddelikat | HELLO HeLlo Hello hello | 20:06 |
daviddelikat | is there anybody in there? | 20:06 |
daviddelikat | just nod if you can hear me | 20:06 |
fokat | Hi guys | 22:14 |
fokat | Squonk spoke yesterday with someone about updating the user profile on each login | 22:14 |
fokat | I have the patch ready. | 22:14 |
@preaction | fokat: if it's a new feature, you should post it to the RFE board: http://webgui.org/rfe | 23:02 |
@preaction | if it needs to be tested (anything non-GUI needs to be tested), or internationalized, that will have to be done before it can go into the core | 23:03 |
@preaction | otherwise, if it's all i18ned and templated and tested, if it gets approved it'll go right in | 23:04 |
fokat | preaction: Thanks. Will do that | 23:08 |
@preaction | but yeah, post it there and we'll help you get it in | 23:09 |
fokat | preaction: Done. RFE #11230 | 23:15 |
fokat | Also attached the patch | 23:16 |
daviddelikat | preaction: is it possible to get WG to put a stack dump in the log when an error occurs? | 23:18 |
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@preaction | daviddelikat: add %T to the Pattern in the log.conf | 00:44 |
@preaction | see the dogs for Log::Log4Perl | 00:44 |
daviddelikat | thanks | 00:44 |
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SquOnk | Greetings | 18:33 |
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elnino | need a pointer...client would like to have nightly builds posted to website... | 03:33 |
elnino | is that a workflow? activity? system cron with a macro displaying files? | 03:33 |
elnino | brb in 45 minutes | 03:35 |
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* elnino reads dev book for ideas | 04:28 |
@preaction | elnino: do you need webgui to build it? | 04:28 |
@preaction | or is it already built? is there an RSS feed with the build reports maybe? | 04:28 |
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elnino | preaction. no. webgui doesn't need to build it. it's already built. webgui has a fileimport utility script that will work well I believe. | 04:55 |
elnino | is there a way to just list all the entries in the bazaar? | 04:59 |
+perlDreamer | not yet | 04:59 |
+perlDreamer | You haven't written that RFE yet | 04:59 |
+perlDreamer | :) | 04:59 |
elnino | =) | 04:59 |
+perlDreamer | I'm working on an RFE that will change the face of WebGUI and affect the whole world | 05:00 |
elnino | I like tagging and all, but I don't like how OTHERs tag things. | 05:00 |
elnino | sounds serious. | 05:00 |
+perlDreamer | It is. | 05:00 |
+perlDreamer | I'm getting JT to shave | 05:00 |
elnino | lol | 05:00 |
+perlDreamer | no, seriously | 05:00 |
+perlDreamer | I'm adding the option to pick a language from the site starter | 05:00 |
elnino | ah. nice. | 05:01 |
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elnino | hmm. where are the system reuirements stated in the wiki? searching for "requirements" only comes up with LDAP | 05:43 |
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+perlDreamer | try searching for memory | 05:53 |
elnino | nope | 05:53 |
+perlDreamer | fokat, do you have any questions about my RFE feedback? | 05:54 |
elnino | I mean, nope, no reults. =( | 05:54 |
+perlDreamer | table of contents? | 05:54 |
+perlDreamer | maybe we don't have one yet? | 05:54 |
+perlDreamer | http://www.webgui.org/community-wiki/system-requirements | 05:56 |
elnino | ok. why didn't http://www.webgui.org/community-wiki/system-requirements come up by searching "requirement"? - I have nothign but problems with wiki searchs | 05:56 |
elnino | found it too. =) | 05:56 |
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daviddelikat1 | getting ready to push EMS submissions mach 2 | 06:06 |
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daviddelikat1 | perlDreamer: I have two test modules that are failing due to 'bad plan' | 06:28 |
daviddelikat1 | USPSInternational and Spectre/Workflow | 06:29 |
+perlDreamer | hm | 06:29 |
daviddelikat1 | any suggestions? | 06:29 |
+perlDreamer | yes. | 06:29 |
+perlDreamer | please paste me some output | 06:29 |
daviddelikat1 | do you want verbose? | 06:30 |
+perlDreamer | definitely | 06:30 |
+perlDreamer | but only for those two tests | 06:30 |
daviddelikat1 | and whats that command to send nopaste to gist? | 06:30 |
daviddelikat1 | of course | 06:30 |
+perlDreamer | nopaste -S gist | 06:30 |
daviddelikat1 | I get an error from nopaste, I'll just use the default... | 06:31 |
daviddelikat1 | oops, gotta redirect stderr... I'll get it eventlually | 06:32 |
daviddelikat1 | http://pastie.org/700562 | 06:32 |
+perlDreamer | it would be easier if you just signed up for a dev key from the USPS | 06:32 |
daviddelikat1 | theoretically... | 06:33 |
+perlDreamer | okay, USPSInternational fixed | 06:33 |
+perlDreamer | Spectre/Workflow is an awful test | 06:33 |
+perlDreamer | if spectre is running, it will fail | 06:33 |
+perlDreamer | I'm probably going to remove it | 06:33 |
daviddelikat1 | there is a skip that says 8 when there are only 7 tests | 06:33 |
daviddelikat1 | just needs to have the skip and the plan fixed | 06:34 |
daviddelikat1 | you want me to change it? | 06:34 |
+perlDreamer | yeah! | 06:34 |
daviddelikat1 | done | 06:34 |
CIA-49 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * rd14fcd9 / t/Shop/ShipDriver/USPSInternational.t : Fix test plan for SKIPS. - http://bit.ly/4ueYPG | 06:34 |
elnino | as far as templates go, h1 in styles, h2 layouts h3 assets. Is that still correct? anyone know? when did that start? | 06:35 |
+perlDreamer | it started in 7.7.15 | 06:36 |
+perlDreamer | and that sounds correct, elnino | 06:36 |
+perlDreamer | the Template Working Group forum is the place to check for that | 06:36 |
+perlDreamer | and hopefully, some wiki pages, too | 06:37 |
+perlDreamer | Template Best Working Practices? | 06:37 |
CIA-49 | webgui: daviddelikat master * r7f6c24e / (10 files in 6 dirs): rather a lot of debugging in the EMS Submission system - http://bit.ly/3w1s0m | 06:37 |
daviddelikat1 | thar she blows! | 06:37 |
CIA-49 | webgui: daviddelikat master * r4278058 / (30 files in 19 dirs): Merge branch 'master' of git@github.com:plainblack/webgui - http://bit.ly/1seGNy | 06:37 |
CIA-49 | webgui: daviddelikat master * r26ef90d / t/Shop/ShipDriver/USPSInternational.t : Merge branch 'master' of git@github.com:plainblack/webgui - http://bit.ly/1BMybq | 06:37 |
CIA-49 | webgui: daviddelikat master * r9dd7056 / (t/Asset/EMSSubmissionForm.t t/Spectre/Workflow.t): fixed tests - http://bit.ly/31j77q | 06:37 |
+perlDreamer | nice :) | 06:37 |
+perlDreamer | although, Spectre/Workflow.t tests should be backported to webgui_7.7 | 06:38 |
+perlDreamer | with that commit structure, that'll have to be done by hand | 06:38 |
daviddelikat1 | I should be able to checkout webgui_7.7 and fix it right? | 06:38 |
+perlDreamer | yes | 06:38 |
daviddelikat1 | I'll get it right now | 06:38 |
+perlDreamer | create a branch of origin/webgui_7.7 to work in | 06:38 |
+perlDreamer | just like you would master | 06:38 |
daviddelikat1 | ( otherwise it could have bene cherry picked... | 06:39 |
daviddelikat1 | right ? ) | 06:39 |
+perlDreamer | yes | 06:39 |
+perlDreamer | I make lots of and lots of small commits now | 06:39 |
+perlDreamer | because it's easier to do multiple cherry picks than to duplicate work by hand | 06:39 |
daviddelikat1 | I've been trying to remember to do that too | 06:39 |
daviddelikat1 | takes a whilel to break old habts | 06:39 |
daviddelikat1 | do I need to pull anything special to get that branch? | 06:41 |
+perlDreamer | when you make the branch, you should need to do a pull to populate it | 06:41 |
+perlDreamer | git checkout --track -b webgui_7.7 origin/webgui_7.7 | 06:41 |
+perlDreamer | I think that's the right command | 06:41 |
+perlDreamer | that will create the branch and put you into it | 06:42 |
+perlDreamer | then do a git pull | 06:42 |
+perlDreamer | and you should be good to go | 06:42 |
daviddelikat1 | it says fatal: ... update path is incomplete | 06:43 |
daviddelikat1 | did you intend to checkout 'orgin/webgui_7.7'' which cannot be resolved as a commit? | 06:44 |
daviddelikat1 | sorry I had to type it all in, no copy paste from vnc | 06:44 |
elnino | thanks perlDreamer. | 06:46 |
@preaction | remotes/origin/webgui_7.7 | 06:46 |
daviddelikat1 | same thing | 06:47 |
daviddelikat1 | http://pastie.org/700576 | 06:47 |
daviddelikat1 | perhaps I need to do something else before I can do the checkout... | 06:49 |
daviddelikat1 | perlDreamer: you probably could cherrypick that commit to 7.7 there are only two files in it and one of them won't exist in the 7.7 branch. | 06:54 |
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* perlDreamer will do the right thing | 07:55 |
+perlDreamer | but we need to get you setup for both branches | 07:55 |
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CIA-49 | webgui: Yung Han Khoe master * r7188b11 / (12 files in 8 dirs): Merge branch 'master' of git@github.com:plainblack/webgui - http://bit.ly/1spfdh | 12:51 |
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SquOnk | Greetings | 15:38 |
+BartJol | hi | 15:40 |
carogray | goodday guys - where in settings does on turn captcha for sending emails from the website on? | 15:43 |
+BartJol | what kind of e-mails? | 15:44 |
+BartJol | i mean wherefrom? | 15:45 |
+BartJol | not everything can have a captcha afaik | 15:45 |
carogray | when people are using our contact us form and replying to us, OR, sending emails to someone else. | 15:45 |
carogray | I had it turned on before, but it wasn't working - didn't hav etime to describe what wasn't working to PB so turned it back off again | 15:46 |
carogray | now I can't figure out how to turn it on, to remember what the problem was to see if it's me or WG | 15:46 |
carogray | I can only find the one captcha image in authentication tab in settings | 15:46 |
carogray | recaptcha in UI tab seems to be something different | 15:47 |
carogray | looks interesting but I don't have time to get distracted | 15:47 |
carogray | oh duh! | 15:48 |
carogray | I just didn't look at the abottom of the form | 15:48 |
+BartJol | :), sorry, i was in a short meating, but is it ok now? | 15:49 |
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+BartJol | carogray: you are ok on this? | 15:57 |
carogray | oh yeah - sometimes I am just so thick...got caught up with an office mate stopping by, always happens when I come IN to work. | 16:04 |
carogray | do you have to do anything to your templates if you have captcha for visitors turned on? | 16:05 |
+BartJol | normally not | 16:06 |
+BartJol | for default templatesa | 16:06 |
+BartJol | if think there is something like <tmpl_if ifCapcha><tmpl_var captcha></tmpl_if> in it | 16:07 |
carogray | oh - right ok. | 16:09 |
carogray | makes sense. I am just trying to do everything in hurry today. | 16:09 |
carogray | thanks | 16:09 |
+BartJol | np | 16:10 |
SDuensin | Morning. | 16:14 |
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+BartJol | thankfully, I'm back to hating IE again | 16:19 |
SDuensin | Hehehe | 16:21 |
SDuensin | You gave it up for awhile? | 16:22 |
+BartJol | yeah, with the developer tools and tabbed browsing, quite w3c compliantcy it didn't seem that bad anymore | 16:22 |
+BartJol | but a pop up blocker that you just can't turn off is terrible, even select menu's don'y open | 16:23 |
+BartJol | reinstalling now... | 16:41 |
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carogray | in the ^international macro - how can I change the language that says "Verify your humanity"? | 16:56 |
+BartJol | as far as I can see the language cannot be passed on as a parameter to the macro | 16:58 |
+BartJol | carogray: from the code: | 16:59 |
+BartJol | Note that a particular language cannot be specified. It uses either the | 16:59 |
+BartJol | current User's setting or the default language for the site. English is | 16:59 |
+BartJol | always used as a fallback. | 16:59 |
+BartJol | so instead of the macro, you can change it to just text | 17:01 |
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+BartJol | but then that is "hardcoded" | 17:01 |
+BartJol | but if you pass on the language, the same would happen | 17:01 |
+BartJol | cool, a bsod | 17:04 |
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+BartJol | carogray: is that enough answer? | 17:17 |
carogray | people keep stoppping by... sorry | 17:18 |
carogray | so I can simply replace the whole macro - it seems to have two arguments with the text I want people to read? | 17:18 |
+BartJol | i'm jsut bugging, because I had to restart my windows computer for the4th time | 17:18 |
+BartJol | yes, it's the label and namespace | 17:19 |
carogray | terrific - I suspected but wasn't sure if it was also related to the image and the box to type image letters into. what's Dutch for "wunderbar"? | 17:19 |
+BartJol | it refers to a file and a tag in the file | 17:19 |
+BartJol | wonderbaarlijk | 17:20 |
+BartJol | it shouldn't | 17:20 |
carogray | ok , then that;-) thanks again. | 17:20 |
+BartJol | well, ie works now | 17:21 |
+BartJol | so I can get back to work | 17:21 |
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+perlDreamer | whoa | 17:32 |
+perlDreamer | new thingy code | 17:32 |
+BartJol | yeah, yung has been busy | 17:33 |
+perlDreamer | let's see how the test suite survived the changes | 17:35 |
+perlDreamer | BartJol, did you see that I coded up the language choice RFE? | 17:35 |
+BartJol | yeah, great! | 17:36 |
+BartJol | but I've been struggling witj IE the whole afternoon | 17:36 |
+BartJol | but I'll try a new install | 17:36 |
+BartJol | soon | 17:37 |
+perlDreamer | IE | 17:38 |
* perlDreamer shudders | 17:38 |
+BartJol | yeah, had to reinstall it, 4 reboots and 1 bsod | 17:38 |
+BartJol | but now it opens drop down menu's.... | 17:38 |
+BartJol | it's fantastic | 17:38 |
+BartJol | and if you don't see the sarcasm dropping from that remark, you need an eye-doctor | 17:39 |
SquOnk | BartJol: It will soon drop dead menus <g> | 17:39 |
+BartJol | I expect anything now | 17:40 |
SquOnk | BartJol: Expect the unexpected | 17:40 |
SquOnk | Favorite quote from "Kentucky Fried Movie" | 17:41 |
+BartJol | I like "With a bit of luck, his life was ruined forever, always thinking that behind some narrow doors in all his favourite bars, men in red woolen shirts are getting incredible kicks of things he'll never know" from fear and loathing in las vegas | 17:43 |
+BartJol | and I don't need a text reference | 17:43 |
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@Haarg | morning patspam | 17:53 |
+patspam | hey graham | 17:53 |
+patspam | how you doin? | 17:54 |
@Haarg | well enough. still trying to wake up. | 17:54 |
+patspam | heh i feel you | 17:55 |
+patspam | today I'm house hunting | 17:56 |
+patspam | time to move off long island and into nyc | 17:56 |
+perlDreamer | make sure it's season, and that you have a license, patspam | 17:58 |
+perlDreamer | prosecution for poaching in New York has big fines | 17:58 |
+patspam | i heard they cut off your left hand? | 17:58 |
+perlDreamer | that's just for theft | 17:58 |
+patspam | hey are you using ubuntu now perlDreamer? | 18:00 |
+perlDreamer | not yet | 18:00 |
+patspam | I just discovered Gnome Do | 18:00 |
+patspam | freaking awesome.. i think OSX has something similar? | 18:01 |
* perlDreamer asks Google about Gnome Do | 18:01 |
+patspam | it sort of combines the best of command line expressiveness with gui sexiness | 18:02 |
+patspam | especially if you turn on the "docky" theme | 18:02 |
SDuensin | Do looks cool. Also looks frighteningly like Yahoo desktop widgets. | 18:07 |
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@Haarg | perlDreamer, i'm considering adding something like this http://gist.github.com/236090 | 18:20 |
@Haarg | right now, the default message for errors in many cases doesn't include much (or sometimes any) information | 18:21 |
+perlDreamer | it looks like a serializer | 18:22 |
+perlDreamer | Looks good to me | 18:22 |
+perlDreamer | is the Fields method defined somewhere? | 18:23 |
+perlDreamer | I don't see it in the Exception::Class docs | 18:24 |
@Haarg | Exception::Class::Base | 18:24 |
@Haarg | as an example, lib/WebGUI/Asset.pm line 1268 does WebGUI::Error::ObjectNotFound->throw(id => $assetId) | 18:24 |
@Haarg | when stringified, that currently becomes "" | 18:24 |
@Haarg | which is less than helpful | 18:24 |
+perlDreamer | definitely | 18:30 |
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CIA-49 | webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.7 * rfaa176d / docs/credits.txt : Give Dale credit for LDAP patches. - http://bit.ly/4ygAIa | 18:40 |
CIA-49 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * ra5880dd / docs/credits.txt : Give Dale credit for LDAP patches. - http://bit.ly/3Egh7P | 18:40 |
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+BartJol | hey | 18:48 |
dreamersgirl | Nice pics, BartJol! | 18:51 |
+BartJol | dreamersgirl: I hope you understand that more tiles to a wall eq better and newer | 18:51 |
+BartJol | in the beginning it was the other way | 18:51 |
dreamersgirl | I like the patterns. | 18:54 |
+BartJol | yeah, it took some thought, and thankfully my father is really interested in architecture and drawing | 18:56 |
+BartJol | so he helped on the interval of the tiles | 18:56 |
+BartJol | to get extra 3d effect | 18:56 |
+BartJol | perlDreamer: is there somewhere I can check your code? | 18:58 |
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+perlDreamer | I can paste a patch, but JT hasn't given the go-ahead to commit yet | 18:58 |
dreamersgirl | forget the code. you should see his pics! :) | 18:59 |
+perlDreamer | where are they? | 18:59 |
+perlDreamer | http://gist.github.com/236133 | 18:59 |
+BartJol | they're onhttp://www.bartjol.nl/home/fotoalbums/fortos/klus20091116 | 18:59 |
+BartJol | and you get to see my father | 19:02 |
+perlDreamer | you have his hair :) | 19:02 |
dreamersgirl | who's the other guy? | 19:02 |
+BartJol | Arnoud and Sjoerd, freinds of mine | 19:03 |
+BartJol | Sjoerd is the guy in the blue shirt, cleaning the tiles | 19:03 |
+BartJol | perlDreamer: thanks... | 19:04 |
dreamersgirl | cool. nice to have help on projects like that! | 19:04 |
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+BartJol | yeah, tiling is a two men job (maybe not if you're a real pro) | 19:05 |
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+perlDreamer | man the i18n RFE has tons of karma on it | 19:05 |
+BartJol | yeah, I throwed some around | 19:06 |
PCCC | good afternoon webgui people can anybody help me on a Authorization Required error | 19:06 |
+BartJol | if you want to do something else, spend all yours on another rfe | 19:06 |
+BartJol | sure pcc | 19:06 |
+BartJol | c | 19:06 |
+perlDreamer | you could throw some more if you committed your tests, BartJol :) | 19:06 |
+BartJol | yeah yeah, I know | 19:07 |
PCCC | the file is set view everyone | 19:07 |
+BartJol | PCCC: how did the file get there? | 19:07 |
PCCC | moved from another webgui dump | 19:07 |
PCCC | i'll tell you my story | 19:08 |
+BartJol | start at your birth :P | 19:08 |
+BartJol | sorry | 19:08 |
+BartJol | please do | 19:08 |
PCCC | lol well somebody here setup a webgui server super wrong, and put it live, the server had all sort of dns error and spectre, so i took the data (upload folder) and a sql dump and create a new webgui server i change the chown -Rf webgui:webgui to the upload folder | 19:09 |
+BartJol | very good | 19:10 |
+BartJol | that would be necessary | 19:10 |
PCCC | i cant' take the conf files because they are poiting to the wrong paths | 19:10 |
+BartJol | and you can use that file? | 19:10 |
PCCC | if i login to the admin , all my files work fine | 19:11 |
+BartJol | ok, so as admin on the site, it is ok, as other user it is not | 19:13 |
PCCC | correct | 19:13 |
+BartJol | well, it doesn't sound like a problem on the filesystem | 19:14 |
PCCC | both server are on the same version of webgui | 19:14 |
PCCC | could it be the www.sitename.conf file? | 19:15 |
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BartJol1 | aoops | 19:16 |
BartJol1 | network cable must be in computer | 19:16 |
BartJol1 | and you did say that security settin was set to visible for everyone | 19:16 |
PCCC | lol | 19:16 |
PCCC | yes | 19:17 |
BartJol1 | do you have anything in your error log? | 19:17 |
PCCC | webgui.log doesn't show any errors regarding that | 19:18 |
BartJol1 | perlDreamer: code looks nice | 19:18 |
+perlDreamer | thanks, BartJo1 :) | 19:18 |
PCCC | i have some rss issues but that's it | 19:18 |
BartJol1 | PCCC: modproxy/modperl error logs? | 19:19 |
PCCC | modproxy is clean | 19:19 |
PCCC | modperl linux ::smaps errors | 19:20 |
BartJol1 | mmm, that could be something | 19:21 |
@Haarg | rm /data/wre/prereqs/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.10.0/Linux/Smaps.pm | 19:21 |
BartJol1 | never seen those errors though | 19:21 |
BartJol1 | is it deprecated? or buggy? | 19:22 |
@Haarg | Linux::Smaps is a module that should allow modperl to measure its own memory more accurately but it is broken on red hat kernels | 19:22 |
BartJol1 | ah | 19:22 |
PCCC | permission denied smaps | 19:22 |
BartJol1 | that's why I haven't seen it, with debian/ubuntu | 19:22 |
BartJol1 | just throw a sudo into it | 19:23 |
BartJol1 | who doesn't want to listen, must feel | 19:23 |
PCCC | u want me rm /data/wre/prereqs/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.10.0/Linux/Smaps.pm? | 19:23 |
BartJol1 | yes | 19:23 |
@Haarg | yes | 19:23 |
BartJol1 | are you on a redhattish system? | 19:24 |
PCCC | done | 19:24 |
@Haarg | then restart modperl | 19:24 |
PCCC | it's the vm that webgui provides | 19:24 |
@Haarg | which is centos | 19:24 |
PCCC | 5.2 | 19:24 |
@Haarg | the smaps problem is something we'll be fixing in future releases | 19:24 |
@Haarg | i haven't been following the whole conversation so i don't know if that is related to whatever your earlier problem was | 19:25 |
+perlDreamer | it's not likely | 19:25 |
+perlDreamer | it's permissions problems with an uploaded file | 19:25 |
BartJol1 | he can't enter files as another user than admins | 19:25 |
BartJol1 | more delicated stated by mister Kuskie | 19:26 |
BartJol1 | delicate just isn't my middle name | 19:26 |
PCCC | ok BartJol1 no more smaps errors | 19:26 |
BartJol1 | nice | 19:27 |
+perlDreamer | to upload files, you have to have editing permission to the page where you want to upload them | 19:27 |
BartJol1 | and file access? | 19:27 |
+perlDreamer | for viewing files, that's a different story altogether | 19:27 |
BartJol1 | you need view permissions? | 19:27 |
PCCC | this file is a picture for my public web | 19:28 |
+perlDreamer | and you can't upload it, or you can't view it? | 19:28 |
CIA-49 | webgui: Yung Han Khoe master * rf3a4bd1 / docs/upgrades/upgrade_7.8.4-7.8.5.pl : Bugfix in thingy upgrade - http://bit.ly/xfPm6 | 19:29 |
PCCC | i can view the picture in the asset manager , it's there but when log of its doesn't come in my layout | 19:29 |
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BartJol1 | and if you go directly to the url of the picture? | 19:30 |
PCCC | before the guy that set it up said that he has seen this issue and he fixed it by bringing the old config files from another sever i guess to the one he set up (which sucks) | 19:30 |
PCCC | when i go directly i get the authorization required error | 19:31 |
+perlDreamer | and if you are logged in, and you go to the URL of the picture, it works fine | 19:32 |
PCCC | correct | 19:32 |
+perlDreamer | if you are logged in as some other user who is not admin, can you see the picture at that URL? | 19:33 |
PCCC | i checked both www.siten.conf files and they look the same except for the thingy part | 19:33 |
BartJol1 | that is what i understand, with no errors in the log | 19:33 |
PCCC | i have no idea what it could be, the file system has the correct rights | 19:38 |
BartJol1 | and the chmod is also correct? | 19:39 |
BartJol1 | the modus i mean? | 19:39 |
PCCC | i did chown no chmod | 19:39 |
BartJol1 | I know | 19:39 |
BartJol1 | I don't know whether that matters | 19:39 |
+perlDreamer | in the filesystem, apache is always the same user | 19:39 |
+perlDreamer | so it won't matter | 19:39 |
+perlDreamer | but... | 19:39 |
BartJol1 | ok | 19:39 |
+perlDreamer | in the upload area, there could be a small file called | 19:40 |
+perlDreamer | .wgaccess | 19:40 |
+perlDreamer | that contains WebGUI permissions | 19:40 |
+perlDreamer | if it is set wrongly, and apache cannot update it | 19:40 |
+perlDreamer | you could see the problem that you are having | 19:40 |
PCCC | i m doing a search for .wgaccess and i found 5 of them inside differente folder inside the upload folder | 19:42 |
+perlDreamer | check file level permissions on them | 19:42 |
PCCC | rw-r--r webgui | 19:43 |
PCCC | because i did a chwon -Rf webgui:webgui uploads | 19:44 |
BartJol1 | have to go now, good luck | 19:44 |
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+perlDreamer | PCCC, next thing to do is check the contents | 19:46 |
CIA-49 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r7c24012 / (4 files in 4 dirs): In the site starter, allow users to pick the default language for a site based on installed language packs. Adds RFE #10727. - http://bit.ly/3pz7B6 | 19:46 |
+perlDreamer | drat, he just missed it | 19:46 |
PCCC | by the content you mean the actual picture? | 19:48 |
+perlDreamer | the contents of the .wgaccess file | 19:48 |
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PCCC | perlDreamer am i supposed to have .wgaccess files in all my folders or can i just delete them? | 19:57 |
+perlDreamer | they denote files with special access privileges | 19:58 |
+perlDreamer | so I would not delete them | 19:58 |
PCCC | ok | 19:58 |
+perlDreamer | what you want to do is see if the file you uploaded has a .wgaccess file in it, and if so, to find the permissions that are stored in it | 19:59 |
PCCC | i checked the folder and it doesnt contain a .wgaccess file on the folder | 20:00 |
+perlDreamer | Have you cleared the Cache in WebGUI, and Temporary Internet Files on your browser? | 20:02 |
PCCC | yes sir, using 3 different pcs to test | 20:02 |
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PCCC | im looking at my modproxy config and i see a difference in "dial with port number in http_host | 20:03 |
+perlDreamer | and when you get the error message in your browser, what is the exact error message? | 20:03 |
PCCC | that section is not on my new config | 20:04 |
@Haarg | can you post your site's modproxy config on http://webgui.pastebin.com ? | 20:05 |
PCCC | http://webgui.pastebin.com/m19a2a5fe | 20:07 |
@Haarg | that all looks correct to me | 20:10 |
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@preaction | damnit. so my idea to keep tabs, fields, and fieldsets seperate in the new FormBuilder won't work | 21:17 |
@preaction | how do you get a button on both the top and bottom? for example | 21:18 |
@preaction | a captcha on the bottom and a normal keyword field on top? | 21:18 |
@preaction | it's like i need a way to put all the objects into a single array | 21:19 |
@preaction | fields, fieldsets, and tabsets | 21:20 |
+perlDreamer | you're saying they need to interrelate | 21:21 |
@preaction | not sure what interrelate means, but i need to do this: | 21:22 |
@preaction | [ WebGUI::Form::Text, WebGUI::FormBuilder::Fieldset, WebGUI::Form::Submit ] | 21:22 |
+perlDreamer | yes, they're related by sequence | 21:23 |
@preaction | i could just keep tabs somewhere special (either top or bottom, based on a configuration) | 21:23 |
@preaction | or I could make a Tabset object as well | 21:23 |
@preaction | then you could have two tabsets each containing 3 tabs with a fieldset between them | 21:24 |
@preaction | duh. the ordering can all be done in the template | 21:31 |
@preaction | but tabsets may still be a good idear | 21:32 |
CIA-49 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r1db4a7f / (3 files in 3 dirs): Allow file globbing in preload.exclude - http://bit.ly/UNHmQ | 21:49 |
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PCCC | question can anybody explain why would my modproxy would stop working after a mysql import | 22:26 |
@preaction | because it can't connect to modperl? | 22:31 |
PCCC | but all of the sudden, it was working fine 10 min ago | 22:33 |
@preaction | but immediately after a mysql import it stopped working? | 22:34 |
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PCCC | yes | 22:39 |
PCCC | as soon as i do the import i get "an error has occurred" and i try to restart the servvices and they don't work | 22:40 |
PCCC | modproxy and modperl | 22:40 |
@preaction | what says "an error has occurred", and what is a mysql import? are you trying to restore WebGUI from a backup? | 22:41 |
PCCC | however when i bring an older backup copy of the same database it works | 22:41 |
PCCC | well i m porting the files from another server to a new host | 22:41 |
@preaction | what says "an error has occurred"? what is the full error message exactly? what is the command you are running exactly? | 22:42 |
PCCC | mysql -u root -p database < sql dump file | 22:43 |
@preaction | you named your file "sql dump file"? | 22:44 |
ckotil | just sql | 22:57 |
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elnino | hi. I have fedora 2.6.30.9-96.fc11.i686.PAE installed, whiich wre do I use? rhel 5,4, or 3? | 23:35 |
+perlDreamer | 5 | 23:38 |
+perlDreamer | well... | 23:38 |
+perlDreamer | yeah, 5 | 23:38 |
elnino | how do you find that out? | 23:38 |
+perlDreamer | RHEL is based on Fedora | 23:39 |
+perlDreamer | the latest centos is 5 | 23:39 |
elnino | right | 23:39 |
elnino | centos? | 23:40 |
+perlDreamer | CentOS is RHEL recompiled without branding | 23:40 |
elnino | whoops. I though fedora was based on redhat. | 23:41 |
ckotil | it is. | 23:42 |
ckotil | oh , vice versa. :x | 23:43 |
elnino | well, what kernal does rhel 5 have? | 23:44 |
elnino | is it 2.6? | 23:44 |
ckotil | yes. | 23:45 |
elnino | ok. so I do want 5. thanks ckotil and perlDreamer | 23:46 |
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+perlDreamer | I'm off to pick up the boys from school. | 00:01 |
+perlDreamer | If all goes well, WebGUI 7.8.5 will be the first WebGUI shipped with language packs. | 00:02 |
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topsub | if i build a site in webgui. Can it change lang on the fly? Is anything like that built? | 00:08 |
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topsub | Or waht would be the best way to handle that? | 00:10 |
elnino | topsub. the content needs to be translated, so you'll have a site for each language. | 00:11 |
elnino | and there are some things on the bazaar that may help a user to switch between languages | 00:11 |
elnino | OR | 00:11 |
elnino | if you are talking about webgui's admin interface, apparantly there is translations that can be changed on the fly. | 00:12 |
elnino | but back to the bilingual content, | 00:12 |
topsub | Just the frontend | 00:12 |
topsub | We have a client that would like a site in spanish and english | 00:12 |
elnino | you can have "multiple" sites by having multiple "roots" | 00:12 |
elnino | then I'd do multiple roots. | 00:12 |
elnino | root for english, and a root for spanish. - each being their own "site" whose content has been translated. | 00:13 |
elnino | I had a site that had 18 languages each with their own root. | 00:14 |
elnino | design stays the same that way. | 00:14 |
elnino | and as far as translating the navigation assets, I had a macro pulling in the correct one based on what root the visitor was visiting. | 00:14 |
elnino | scratch that.. I had to do that for a nother reason. You shouldn't have to do that. =) | 00:15 |
topsub | ah | 00:25 |
elnino | hope that makes sense AND helps. | 00:26 |
topsub | yes it does | 00:26 |
topsub | client only wants certain pagesi n spanish | 00:26 |
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+perlDreamer | topsub, some i18n tools for doing that were just added to 7.8 | 00:31 |
+perlDreamer | and there is some stuff in the Bazaar you should look at | 00:31 |
topsub | perfect, i'm making notes now, will take a look | 00:32 |
+perlDreamer | topsub, this one in particular: http://www.webgui.org/bazaar/languagepageswitch | 00:34 |
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+perlDreamer | starting in WebGUI 7.8.5, WebGUI will ship with the Spanish translation for the front end, and have a macro that lets users change their language on the fly | 00:35 |
topsub | nice! we need a way if we are logged into "bookmark" addons, like on themeforest | 00:35 |
topsub | themeforest.net | 00:35 |
+perlDreamer | I think there's a wG bookmarks RFE. | 00:36 |
topsub | is 7.8 coming out soon? | 00:39 |
+perlDreamer | we have 7.8 releases every other week | 00:40 |
+perlDreamer | 7.8.5 is out tomorrow | 00:40 |
topsub | liek stable release? | 00:40 |
+perlDreamer | stable is in a few weeks, I believe | 00:40 |
+perlDreamer | if I can close the bug list out, sooner | 00:41 |
topsub | ah | 00:41 |
topsub | will we be able to upgrade from 7.7 up to 7.8? | 00:41 |
topsub | I'm making a new server | 00:41 |
+perlDreamer | there will be a way to upgrade from 7.7 to 7.8 | 00:41 |
+perlDreamer | as always | 00:41 |
topsub | if i remember isn't there going to have a complete rewrite were we can't upgrade i thought | 00:41 |
topsub | code changes and such | 00:42 |
@preaction | topsub: yes. that's WebGUI 8. and it will be mostly upgradable, the problem will only be if you've written custom code | 00:52 |
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+perlDreamer | it will be like wG 6, but smaller in scope. | 00:53 |
+perlDreamer | and with tests to back it up | 00:55 |
+perlDreamer | and a fixed schedule | 00:55 |
+perlDreamer | the big goal is wG8 is performance | 01:04 |
+perlDreamer | I think if you check out JT's blog there's a link in there to his keynote from WUC 2k9 | 01:05 |
topsub | nice | 01:08 |
topsub | heading home bbl | 01:08 |
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+perlDreamer | preaction: did you add downloadable MIME types to the SQL Report, back in the day? | 02:18 |
@preaction | yeah, all that download stuff is mine | 02:18 |
+perlDreamer | a bug was filed about macro processing in the download via template | 02:19 |
+perlDreamer | was there ever any intent to bypass macro processing in that code, by a particular mime type? | 02:20 |
+perlDreamer | I'm stuck between adding an option to process macros in the template, and just processing them if a template is used. | 02:20 |
+perlDreamer | the change to Session->output->print changed the default behavior | 02:22 |
CIA-49 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r67c66c8 / lib/WebGUI/Asset/Wobject/Thingy/ThingRecord.pm : Remove deprecated use of defined() on hashes. - http://bit.ly/1HV31q | 02:28 |
CIA-49 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r01e873e / (2 files in 2 dirs): i18n the download type choices in the SQL Report. - http://bit.ly/4oyqzl | 02:29 |
CIA-49 | webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.7 * re7fd10b / (2 files in 2 dirs): i18n the download type choices in the SQL Report. - http://bit.ly/25CyfW | 02:29 |
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@preaction | perlDreamer: i would say just process macros, it wasn't my intent to bypass them (it was the very first code i wrote for webgui) | 02:39 |
+perlDreamer | okay | 02:39 |
+perlDreamer | right after I uncuddle your else's | 02:39 |
CIA-49 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * rc8bda63 / t/Asset/Wobject/SQLReport.t : Test maintenance. - http://bit.ly/37WN69 | 03:02 |
CIA-49 | webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.7 * r376ae82 / t/Asset/Wobject/SQLReport.t : Test maintenance. - http://bit.ly/ztwMZ | 03:02 |
CIA-49 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r110a236 / (2 files in 2 dirs): When using a download template, macros are always processed in the output. fixes bug #11242. - http://bit.ly/4Fzlve | 03:02 |
CIA-49 | webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.7 * rbb58ce3 / (2 files in 2 dirs): When using a download template, macros are always processed in the output. fixes bug #11242. - http://bit.ly/2vEkei | 03:02 |
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elnino | hi. someone here helped me access the wreconsole using ssh or something, is that someone here? | 03:08 |
elnino | it was like some redirect using putty or something. | 03:11 |
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elnino | or perhaps there is a way to setup webgui/wre without using the wreconsole during installation. I can't seem to get thru to 60834 | 03:16 |
+perlDreamer | have you checked the wiki? | 03:22 |
+perlDreamer | or checked the logs? | 03:22 |
elnino | I dont' know what to search for... | 03:22 |
+perlDreamer | WRE setup installation | 03:22 |
elnino | and I have an bug report on the wiki search =) | 03:22 |
elnino | oh. no that page doesn't have anything about the redirect. | 03:22 |
elnino | someone here had helped me access the console without having to muck with port 60834. | 03:23 |
elnino | if I remembe correctly, it was using putty and redirecting something or ??? | 03:24 |
elnino | it was way over my head, but it worked really nice. | 03:24 |
+perlDreamer | maybe using port forwarding...? | 03:25 |
elnino | yes, that. | 03:26 |
+perlDreamer | are you sure you talked about it in channel? | 03:26 |
elnino | LONG ago. | 03:26 |
+perlDreamer | try here: http://mentalhouse.net/irc/logs/webgui/2009-03.log | 03:26 |
elnino | yep. that's me!! | 03:27 |
elnino | thanks! | 03:27 |
+perlDreamer | please wiki that? | 03:28 |
+perlDreamer | the problem and solution? | 03:28 |
elnino | absolutely. I was planning on it. | 03:28 |
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elnino | it worked! I'll write a wiki later tonight. | 04:11 |
CIA-49 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r5bf3e44 / (3 files in 3 dirs): Accept time zones with spaces or underscores to help users. - http://bit.ly/1TDEPl | 04:32 |
CIA-49 | webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.7 * re4072f1 / (3 files in 3 dirs): Accept time zones with spaces or underscores to help users. - http://bit.ly/10Xxgv | 04:32 |
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elnino | grr.. | 05:03 |
elnino | in 7.6 something, I created a package with many children and I'm importing it to 7.7.26. and I'm losing all the children except for one. | 05:05 |
elnino | in the webgui log, I'm getting: Couldn't compile asset package: WebGUI::Asset::RSSFromParent. | 05:06 |
+perlDreamer | RSSFromParent doesn't exist in 7.7 | 05:08 |
+perlDreamer | the thing to do is to upgrade the 7.6 site to the point where RSSFromParent was removed | 05:08 |
+perlDreamer | and then make the package | 05:08 |
elnino | my articles and redirects were deleted as well. | 05:09 |
elnino | I checked the system clipboard too. | 05:09 |
elnino | I also opened up the package and everything is in there. | 05:11 |
+perlDreamer | elnino, is that on the originating site, or the importing site? | 05:12 |
elnino | the file generated from the originating site has the appropriate contents (opened it with tar) | 05:13 |
elnino | when I import it, th eonly thing that gets imported is the parent (page layout) and one child (CS asset) | 05:13 |
elnino | redirects and article assets are gone. | 05:13 |
* perlDreamer reiterates the original advice. | 05:13 |
elnino | I have two packages like this. both failed the same way. | 05:13 |
+perlDreamer | the CS is not being fully imported | 05:13 |
elnino | I'm scared of 7.7. =) | 05:14 |
+perlDreamer | because of the old, deprecated RssFromParent asset | 05:14 |
+perlDreamer | you could also try turning off the RSS Feed for the CS, and then turning it back on in 7.7 | 05:14 |
elnino | the cs imported fine. (execpt fothe rss parent) There were no threads to begin with. So I don't know if they would have owrkd or not. | 05:14 |
+perlDreamer | turn it off in 7.6, export, import to 7.7, turn it back on | 05:15 |
elnino | turn off the rss parent? | 05:15 |
elnino | ok. | 05:15 |
+perlDreamer | in old 7.6, you can tell the CS whether or not you want to use RSS | 05:16 |
elnino | yep | 05:16 |
+perlDreamer | if you turn it off, it should delete the RssFromParent | 05:16 |
elnino | did navigationi assets change much? | 05:16 |
+perlDreamer | no | 05:16 |
elnino | that did it. the rss feed must of crapped out enough to prevent everything else from working. | 05:20 |
elnino | is that going to be a problem when I upgrade my sites to 7.7? | 05:22 |
+perlDreamer | no, only if you port packages from old RSS to new RSS | 05:31 |
+perlDreamer | an exported package doesn't go through the upgrade process | 05:31 |
+perlDreamer | elnino: is there really an awstats workflow, or is it the send stats workflow? | 05:38 |
elnino | Sorry. I meant the send stats worksflow. | 05:38 |
elnino | I don't know if that request is possible. | 05:39 |
elnino | because Idon't know if you know if awstats is configured or not. | 05:39 |
elnino | a brand new site, and I hosed it. grr. | 05:39 |
elnino | I can go to the asset manager for /home, but when I try to view it I get a An error was encountered while processing your request. | 05:41 |
+perlDreamer | it's not awstats, it's WebGUI Stats | 05:41 |
+perlDreamer | reset the site from create.sql? | 05:42 |
elnino | oh. what is webgui stats? | 05:43 |
+perlDreamer | It's a way to help the WebGUI developers know what all is being used in WebGUI | 05:45 |
+perlDreamer | it sends back the size of your site (users, groups, pages) which assets are being used, which macros are being used, stuff like that | 05:45 |
+perlDreamer | just statistical data | 05:46 |
elnino | oh. well, I said no to that, but the workflow was set to yes. | 05:46 |
+perlDreamer | the workflow is enabled, but the cron job that calls the workflow to send the data was never created. | 05:47 |
+perlDreamer | remember, workflows have to have a trigger | 05:47 |
elnino | you mean, activity. | 05:49 |
elnino | right? | 05:49 |
+perlDreamer | No, workflows | 05:50 |
elnino | 'cron job' = 'activity', right? | 05:50 |
elnino | grr. No, *I* meant. under the scheduler. | 05:52 |
elnino | not activity. Iknow what an activity is. | 05:52 |
+perlDreamer | sorry, elnino. I hate debating semantics. | 05:53 |
elnino | No, I'm sorry. I'm not trying to debate. I just want to make sure I'm understanding correctly. | 05:54 |
+perlDreamer | The bottom line is that it was confusing that you said "No" to Statistics, but saw that the Workflow was enabled. | 05:56 |
elnino | yes. | 05:56 |
elnino | looking in the advisories, what is the new way to access the rss feed now? | 06:23 |
+perlDreamer | you append ?func=viewRss to the URL | 06:31 |
elnino | nothign i nthe wikis either. But I'll put it there. Thanks | 06:31 |
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CIA-49 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * ra63dfa3 / docs/upgrades/packages-7.8.5/style_03.wgpkg : Fix a typo in the updated style03 template. - http://bit.ly/hzBZl | 07:42 |
elnino | will having perl and wre's perl installed on the same machine be a problem? | 07:59 |
+perlDreamer | nope | 08:00 |
+perlDreamer | just be sure you always do a setenvironment.sh | 08:01 |
+perlDreamer | except! | 08:01 |
+perlDreamer | on RHEL/CentOS, if you do setenvironment.sh, you won't be able to use yum | 08:01 |
+perlDreamer | so be careful about putting setenvironment.sh into root's .bashrc | 08:01 |
+perlDreamer | or .profile | 08:01 |
+perlDreamer | I created an alias called wreme | 08:01 |
+perlDreamer | so that normally I'm in the system | 08:01 |
+perlDreamer | and after I wreme, I'm in the WRE | 08:02 |
elnino | so removing the systme's perl and using wre's perl exclusive probably isn't a good idea on fedora. I was thinking of removing it, and then creating softlinks to perl ,perl5.10.0 ,perlbug, and perldoc to /data/wre/prereqs/bin's perl stuff | 08:03 |
@preaction | probably a bad idea, yeah | 08:04 |
elnino | yeah, I'll leave it. | 08:04 |
+perlDreamer | binary compatibility | 08:04 |
@preaction | the WRE's perl is compiled with different libs | 08:04 |
@preaction | in fact, even sourcing in the WRE is a pain sometimes, there have been forum posts about it | 08:04 |
@preaction | should make a "wreon" and "wreoff" script, that'd be nice | 08:05 |
elnino | or.. couldn't we just have a wre user? | 08:05 |
elnino | rather than running as root? | 08:06 |
@preaction | the WRE already runs as the user "webgui", but you don't want that user to have a login shell | 08:06 |
@preaction | you could do as perldreamer has done, and "wreoff" would be as simple as "reset" | 08:06 |
+perlDreamer | reset? | 08:06 |
@preaction | reset clears your environment and loads it from profile | 08:07 |
+perlDreamer | nice | 08:07 |
@preaction | so like if you even kill -9 screen, you can type "reset" and fix the lack of scrolling | 08:07 |
* elnino go looks | 08:07 |
elnino | cool! | 08:07 |
+perlDreamer | preaction, do you see any problems with changing Workflow Save to return you to the list of Workflows, instead of back to the Edit Workflow screen? | 08:08 |
+perlDreamer | it was pointed out that it's not consistent with other screens | 08:08 |
@preaction | kinda, you have to save the workflow before you can add activities to it | 08:09 |
@preaction | what it needs is a nice javascript update | 08:09 |
@preaction | if you don't save the workflow before you add activities, you lose the changes to the name/description stuff | 08:09 |
+perlDreamer | I'll move that over into the RFE section, then. | 08:09 |
+perlDreamer | you said _that word_ | 08:10 |
elnino | well, you could have the workflow ask you the question: where do you want to go next? and either go back to the list, or add an activies. Kinda like dataform. | 08:10 |
CIA-49 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r0103cba / (docs/changelog/7.x.x.txt lib/WebGUI/Operation/Statistics.pm): Disable the Send Stats workflow, to avoid confusion. Fixes bug #11245 - http://bit.ly/3WSeke | 08:18 |
CIA-49 | webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.7 * rd369899 / (docs/changelog/7.x.x.txt lib/WebGUI/Operation/Statistics.pm): Disable the Send Stats workflow, to avoid confusion. Fixes bug #11245 - http://bit.ly/xNN4v | 08:18 |
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SquOnk | Morning (VET) | 14:05 |
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bartjol | morning SquOnk | 14:16 |
SquOnk | bartjol: Hoe gaat? | 14:22 |
* SquOnk 's dutch is rusty, to say the least ;-) | 14:22 |
bartjol | it's ok, just css postioning today | 14:22 |
bartjol | Hoe gaat het?is the better way | 14:23 |
SquOnk | bartjol: Thanks | 14:23 |
bartjol | without "het" you sound like a foreigner | 14:23 |
SquOnk | bartjol: I was able to understand spoken dutch quite well, but I can't make the gutural noises needed to speak it. | 14:23 |
bartjol | like what's up without what: Is up? | 14:24 |
SquOnk | bartjol: And I never spent that much time there to be forced to learn it. | 14:24 |
bartjol | well, think off something stuck in th top of your throat, which you want to get out | 14:25 |
bartjol | if that works, try it more in the middleof your mouth | 14:25 |
SquOnk | That's what everyone said ;-) | 14:26 |
bartjol | well, unless you're coming back, it's quite useless, except for the one or two odd dutch tourists, or during the wuc | 14:28 |
SquOnk | Yeah | 14:31 |
SquOnk | I'm fond of languages, so I tried to learn a bit. | 14:31 |
SquOnk | And our business associate over there had lots of fun teaching us in exchange of spanish curse words. | 14:31 |
SquOnk | Heh | 14:31 |
bartjol | we did that with Jesse when he came over from Australia | 14:32 |
SquOnk | bartjol: We did some extensive linguistic work with our friends Jurgen and Harm over there. I wrote "words" and asked them to pronounce the words as if they were "dutch". The words were chosen so that when spoken as "dutch" they sounded exactly like spanish. | 14:33 |
SquOnk | bartjol: So they spoke "perfect spanish" withouth knowing what the hell they were saying. | 14:33 |
bartjol | :) | 14:34 |
bartjol | well, have to get back to work | 14:35 |
SquOnk | bartjol: One more question, if you have the time. | 14:39 |
SquOnk | More of a suggestion, I think. | 14:39 |
SquOnk | When you logout from WebGUI, it leaves you in the last page you visited. Is there a way to fix a "go here on logout" page? | 14:40 |
SquOnk | s/fix/set/ | 14:40 |
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bartjol | mm | 14:42 |
bartjol | not sure whether there's a default function | 14:42 |
SquOnk | bartjol: I couldn't find anything, so I guess there's some hacking involved. | 14:43 |
bartjol | but the logout link is just a link | 14:43 |
SquOnk | bartjol: The rationale from my customer is that their Intranet _must_ be entered through the front page, so they want anyone logging out to be redirected to the main page. | 14:43 |
bartjol | so you can do a href="mypage?op=auth;method=logout | 14:44 |
bartjol | but i think that must be on the site, not another webgui install | 14:44 |
bartjol | and correct syntax | 14:45 |
bartjol | it will first execute the function, then get the content | 14:45 |
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bartjol | that's why you must be on the install, otherwise you'll just get redirected to another site, instead of executing the operation | 14:46 |
SquOnk | bartjol: Yes, it's going to be in the same WebGUI install. | 14:46 |
bartjol | well, no problem there then | 14:47 |
SquOnk | bartjol: I will try that and see where it gets me. | 14:47 |
bartjol | i believe it should work | 14:47 |
SquOnk | bartjol: Thanks! | 14:47 |
bartjol | and if it's inetrnationalized, use the international macro for the Logout label | 14:47 |
bartjol | no problem | 14:47 |
SquOnk | bartjol: I'll let you know if it worked out | 14:47 |
bartjol | that'll be nice | 14:48 |
bartjol | SquOnk: I made a little mistake | 15:22 |
bartjol | you need to edit your template of the login toggle | 15:22 |
bartjol | and make the same adjustment I told you before | 15:23 |
SquOnk | bartjol: I'm doing that, don't worry. | 15:23 |
bartjol | ok | 15:23 |
bartjol | since it is a toggle | 15:23 |
SquOnk | bartjol: It works as expected. I just hardcoded "^/;?op=auth;method=logout" as the logout URL | 15:28 |
bartjol | very nice | 15:28 |
SDuensin | Morning. | 15:55 |
bartjol | mogguh | 15:57 |
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PCCC | morning | 16:54 |
* SDuensin wonders when the fun starts. | 16:55 |
PCCC | i have a weird case, maybe somebody has the answer, i restoring a sql webgui backup to my server and all services start fine , no error on logs, however i get blank pages, nothing at all, no browser errors | 16:56 |
PCCC | here is the freaky part when i bring an older sql dump in the same server, it works | 16:56 |
PCCC | it's just that day, | 16:56 |
PCCC | i check the database for errors , all is clean | 16:57 |
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bartjol | PCCC: and if you read in the db, it actually conatins stuff? | 17:07 |
PCCC | yes | 17:07 |
PCCC | it does | 17:07 |
bartjol | user passwd combi from conf works for that db | 17:07 |
PCCC | yes | 17:07 |
bartjol | so mysql -u"myuser" -p"mypasswd" mydb works | 17:08 |
PCCC | yes sir | 17:08 |
bartjol | just checking, starting at the base | 17:08 |
bartjol | thinking... | 17:10 |
bartjol | and bypassing the db by getting a direct object from the uploads dir? | 17:12 |
PCCC | ok i discovered something ,i copy the admin url from another server and pasted in the server that was giving me blanks i am able to get to the admin panel, and all my data is there however nothing shows, an all my layout have a make asset exportable option on | 17:13 |
PCCC | if i take it off , that link works | 17:13 |
bartjol | odd | 17:14 |
PCCC | weird all my layout, and content is the same "make asset exportable " on | 17:15 |
PCCC | can you do that ? recursive like that | 17:16 |
bartjol | I think that is the default setting | 17:16 |
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bartjol | | isExportable | int(11) | NO | | 1 | | | 17:17 |
bartjol | so it is default | 17:18 |
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PCCC | silly question can webgui go back and restore setting from previous days | 17:20 |
@Haarg | settings aren't versioned, so no. | 17:21 |
bartjol | morning misters | 17:21 |
bartjol | unless you have a db dump in your backup | 17:23 |
bartjol | backups are good practise | 17:23 |
PCCC | this is from a backup | 17:23 |
bartjol | and you have new settings? | 17:24 |
PCCC | yes, which is weird | 17:25 |
bartjol | it is | 17:25 |
bartjol | did you drop that db correctly first? | 17:25 |
PCCC | it was done by the backup utility from webgui | 17:25 |
bartjol | is there a backup restore utility? | 17:26 |
PCCC | no, just a backup up, but im restoring from there | 17:26 |
PCCC | but why would my pages not show | 17:26 |
PCCC | the permissions are correct | 17:26 |
bartjol | ok, so that gives you a sql file | 17:26 |
bartjol | tell me every step you take during restoring | 17:28 |
PCCC | i took the dump files that webgui backup.pl creates and move them to the server tar them and overwrite then mysql -u user - p password database < dump.sql | 17:29 |
bartjol | ah, first throw the old one away | 17:29 |
bartjol | drop comand | 17:29 |
bartjol | then create a new db with the same name | 17:29 |
bartjol | then import it again with the command you named | 17:30 |
PCCC | ok let me try that | 17:30 |
bartjol | as mysql user root | 17:30 |
PCCC | done, same result | 17:33 |
bartjol | everything as root user? | 17:33 |
bartjol | darn | 17:33 |
PCCC | yes root user | 17:34 |
bartjol | restarted services? | 17:35 |
PCCC | yep all starting fine | 17:36 |
PCCC | no errors on webgui.log | 17:36 |
bartjol | in /data/WebGUI/etc/log.conf you can set your log level | 17:36 |
bartjol | set it to debug | 17:36 |
bartjol | (with capitals) | 17:37 |
bartjol | retsart modperl | 17:37 |
PCCC | ok | 17:37 |
bartjol | i dunno what retsart is either, but just do it | 17:3 |
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