WebGUI irc logs from: 2009-11.log

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CIA-53webgui: Colin Kuskie master * rbd66779 / (4 files): Macro test maintenance, up through Page.t - http://bit.ly/1zdQ0v00:52
CIA-53webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.7 * r1c536f9 / lib/WebGUI/Operation/Group.pm : Fix syntax errors in Operation/Group - http://bit.ly/4AEFzQ00:52
CIA-53webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.7 * r933598b / (4 files): Macro test maintenance, up through Page.t - http://bit.ly/3WjRFV00:52
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CIA-53webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r7154833 / (11 files): Done with Macro test maintenance. - http://bit.ly/2L75aD04:01
CIA-53webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.7 * r8ba01ef / (10 files): Done with Macro test maintenance. - http://bit.ly/47LN2004:02
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+perlDreamerHappy Halloween, fellow Gooey-ians!04:06
+perlDreamerGooeyites?04:06
+perlDreamerhm04:06
topsubHey,05:05
topsubI'm getting http://webgui.pastebin.com/m20b4a95 after i restarted my server and tried to boot everything05:05
topsubAny idea?05:05
+perlDreamerDon't restart your server?05:05
topsubdoh!05:05
+perlDreameryou need to specify a pid file05:05
+perlDreamerin spectre.conf05:05
+perlDreamerso that spectre knows where to write the PID file05:06
topsubbut i guess i never had to do that before, why is it showing up now?05:06
+perlDreamerbecause it's new :P05:06
topsubwhat is a pid?05:06
+perlDreamerProcess ID05:06
+perlDreamerkind of like httpd.pid05:06
+perlDreamermysql.pid05:06
topsubdo i need to just create a blank file and point it to it?05:06
+perlDreamerspectre now uses a PID file for starting and stopping05:06
+perlDreamerno, in spectre.conf, you need to tell spectre where to write the PID file that it wants to use05:07
topsubdo we have docs about this so i can catch up on this? haha05:07
+perlDreamerit's in the gotcha.txt file05:07
topsubI never upgraded05:07
topsubah. i didn't change my file system back05:07
topsubmust have tried to started changing the files05:07
topsubremember it keep crashing so i left it for now05:07
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CIA-53webgui: khenn master * r3958a36 / (4 files in 4 dirs): bug fixes: start date is returned in UTC instead of the proper time zone, meta data fields are not properly returned to the template - http://bit.ly/3SFOXK16:46
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lukehi. what's the best way to upgrade (source install) from 7.6.35 to the latest 7.7? can i do it directly?11:48
+BartJolI would read the gotchas first12:09
+BartJolbut I believe I saw a bugfix that should make it possible to go to 7.7.24 (not 23), luke12:10
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+BartJolluke: http://github.com/plainblack/webgui/blob/v7.7.24/docs/gotcha.txt12:12
lukethanks BartJol. i'll give it a go.12:13
+BartJolluke there are quite some template changes, so checking the changelog might be wise too12:15
lukei noticed that12:20
+BartJoltoo late?12:32
lukenono. i'm still procrastinating.12:38
+BartJolaah very wise12:48
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+BartJolmmm, it seems that in the template help, the event asset reports untruly that the synopsis variable is present15:55
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CIA-53webgui: Graham Knop master * r35d1fc9 / (docs/changelog/7.x.x.txt lib/WebGUI/AssetAspect/RssFeed.pm): fixed: RSS feeds generated with incorrect link for channel - http://bit.ly/1wqRNY17:12
SDuensinMorning all.17:12
+BartJolmorning17:13
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+perlDreamerHaarg, the RssFeed bug fix broke a test.  I'm going to backport your patch and the test fix now, so I don't forget to backport the test patch later18:03
@Haargoop, sorry, was going to check tests but wanted to get it committed quickly.18:03
+perlDreamerno sweat18:04
CIA-53webgui: Colin Kuskie master * rc017926 / t/Asset/Wobject/EventManagementSystem.t : Add the eventMetaData template variable back to the test. - http://bit.ly/1DFazi18:04
CIA-53webgui: Colin Kuskie master * rfcab301 / t/AssetAspect/RssFeed.t : Update RssFeed test. - http://bit.ly/2aJIaU18:04
CIA-53webgui: Graham Knop webgui-7.7 * r44b05b2 / (docs/changelog/7.x.x.txt lib/WebGUI/AssetAspect/RssFeed.pm): fixed: RSS feeds generated with incorrect link for channel - http://bit.ly/aLwoS18:04
CIA-53webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.7 * r5186799 / t/AssetAspect/RssFeed.t : Update RssFeed test. - http://bit.ly/1VmRd418:04
+perlDreamertavisto: If I fix this Shop bug now, can you have the user try to check out again?18:05
@tavistoI can reply to their email and tell them to do so18:06
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+perlDreamertavisto, please make him do so18:41
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@tavistook perlDreamer will do18:43
+BartJolis there a reason that userdefined tmpl_vars are  not included for the storymanager?18:48
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+BartJolah, dreamersgirl is in her class again18:49
dreamersgirl:)18:50
dreamersgirlWe're learning about opioids....18:50
+BartJoldoesn't sound simple18:51
+perlDreamerBartJol: it doesn't have any to include?18:51
+BartJolperlDreamer: yeah, but that is chicken-egg stuff18:52
+BartJolI mean, why aren't they included as a feature in that whole manger18:53
+perlDreamerthey weren't in the spec18:53
+BartJolah18:53
+BartJolso that would be an rfe18:53
+perlDreamerdefinitely18:53
+BartJolals filed18:57
+BartJoland18:57
+BartJolperlDreamer: so I can just leave that use_ok check out of the test, cool19:00
+BartJol?19:00
+perlDreameryeah19:00
+BartJolwell, let's rip it out and push it again, and then only 6 macros are completely without tests (or should we include the ones with only a use_ok test in that list......)19:01
+perlDreameryeah, I wasn't sure about separating them into categories like that19:02
+perlDreamerbut as long as everything is tested in the end19:02
CIA-53webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r74f7038 / lib/WebGUI/Asset.pm : Fix a bad comment. - http://bit.ly/1mwnPs19:06
CIA-53webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.7 * rb6f4f73 / lib/WebGUI/Asset.pm : Fix a bad comment. - http://bit.ly/1aW0O319:06
CIA-53webgui: Colin Kuskie master * re9b11c5 / (2 files in 2 dirs): Navigation can use the default Asset getEditForm controls. Fixes bug #11188 - http://bit.ly/1fgJdb19:06
CIA-53webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.7 * r301763e / (2 files in 2 dirs): Navigation can use the default Asset getEditForm controls. Fixes bug #11188 - http://bit.ly/cdCD19:06
+BartJolok that is 1 then19:06
+BartJolhave fun merging19:07
+perlDreamerI'll ship you the karma after I merge19:07
+BartJolwell, hold your horses, I intended to do more19:07
+perlDreamerah, but every time I give someone karma, I can post about it19:08
+perlDreamerhopefully more people will sign up for test writing19:08
+perlDreamerand then we'll have a whole herd of testers19:08
+BartJolwell, ok19:08
+perlDreamernot that I want to give you competition or anything19:08
+BartJoljust give the next one, otherwise I have to choose19:08
+perlDreamerit's first come, first serve19:09
+perlDreamerwhich means you can pick the one that is easiest to test :)19:09
+BartJolI already did19:09
+perlDreamerI would pick StorageUrl next19:10
+BartJolok19:10
+BartJolsince I don't have any internet, I'll try to do that one tonight and post it tomorrow19:11
+perlDreamerah, yeha19:11
+perlDreameryeah19:11
+perlDreamerno internet at Chez Jol19:11
+perlDreameris that something that is planned?19:11
+BartJolno, only wireless woth passwords19:11
+BartJolyeah my whole neighbourhoud put on security when I moved there19:12
+BartJolit was a big operation19:12
+BartJoland if I really feel like it, I might continue with a contenthandler, those are badly tested too19:13
+perlDreameryes19:13
+perlDreamermost are not tested at all19:13
+perlDreamerin fact, large pieces of WebGUI are not tested19:13
+perlDreamerthis is bad19:13
+BartJolexcept 2 or three, including the very nice SetLanguage test19:13
+perlDreamerSetLanguage is a gem19:13
+BartJol:P19:14
+perlDreamerfor testing, I've been using this photo: http://imagebin.ca/view/5pFt3oTl.html19:16
+BartJolah, me will use this one http://blogs.bootsnall.com/pesta/archives/Peru/4.%20guinea%20pig.jpg19:17
+perlDreamermmm, french fries19:18
+perlDreamerwere you at the WUC where they served the pig for the luau, BartJol?19:18
+BartJolno :(19:18
+BartJolin vegas?19:18
+BartJolor chicago>19:18
+perlDreamerVegas19:18
+BartJolsounds like vegas19:19
+BartJolno, only Madison WUC's for me19:19
+BartJolmmmm, more than a million image results on fried guinea pig, it is a strange world, but all those pictures are making me hungry, so later19:21
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+perlDreamerHaarg, preaction, fellow WebGUI folk, lend me your ears19:22
@Haarg?19:22
+perlDreamerwhy is it that editing controls are not displayed when an Image Asset is AssetProxied?19:22
+perlDreamerit appears to be designed in19:24
@Haargit's meant for if it is used in a design the toolbar doesn't get in the way19:24
@Haargaccording to rizen19:24
+perlDreamerthat makes sense19:25
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SDuensinInteresting logic.  Just turning on admin mode usually trashes my layouts.  :-(19:26
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CIA-53webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r3768984 / (docs/changelog/7.x.x.txt lib/WebGUI/Macro/AssetProxy.pm): Update the POD for the AssetProxy macro, re the displaying of edit controls. Fixes bug #11189 - http://bit.ly/3IGBqS19:43
CIA-53webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.7 * rdee0954 / (docs/changelog/7.x.x.txt lib/WebGUI/Macro/AssetProxy.pm): Update the POD for the AssetProxy macro, re the displaying of edit controls. Fixes bug #11189 - http://bit.ly/4058sA19:43
+perlDreamerYay, Joeri!19:43
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SDuensinPerl on Windows is compiled poop.19:58
+perlDreamers/Perl on//;19:59
SDuensinThat's the truth.19:59
SDuensinThey don't give me a real computer at work.19:59
SDuensinAll I want is an updated CPAN.  Is that asking too much?20:00
+perlDreamerare you using Strawberry Perl?20:00
SDuensinCygwin20:01
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CIA-53webgui: Colin Kuskie master * rbaf9f3c / (4 files in 4 dirs): Make a synopsis field available to the Event edit form. Fixes bug #11190 - http://bit.ly/MuKor20:51
CIA-53webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.7 * r70d3d63 / lib/WebGUI/Asset/Wobject/Calendar.pm : Remove debug code from Calendar. - http://bit.ly/2TNfAK20:51
CIA-53webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.7 * r3ebd8f9 / (4 files in 4 dirs): Make a synopsis field available to the Event edit form. Fixes bug #11190 - http://bit.ly/3gRW2U20:51
CIA-53webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r9b94516 / lib/WebGUI/Asset/Wobject/Calendar.pm : Remove debug code from Calendar. - http://bit.ly/3ZgNeS20:53
topsubIs there a way to import subscribers into webgui's Newsletter asset?21:06
+perlDreamernot through the user interface21:06
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topsubWould i have to do straight sql?21:07
topsubIs that what you mean?21:07
topsubOr write a script?21:07
+perlDreameryeah21:07
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topsubScript would be best way you think?21:08
+perlDreameryes21:08
+perlDreamersee setUserSubscriptions in Asset/Wobject/Collaboration/Newsletter.pm21:09
topsubah, nice thanks!21:17
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+perlDreamerHaarg, do you happen to have that benchmark data for isIn vs grep vs first laying around?21:37
@Haargnope21:37
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ckotilcan i gracefully restart modproxy using apachectl like so? '/data/wre/prereqs/bin/apachectl -f /data/wre/etc/modproxy.conf graceful'22:38
@Haargyes22:41
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ckotilsweet. needs +k too, but thanks.22:43
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+perlDreamerawfully quiet today02:19
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daviddelikatperlDreamer: are you going to be on later? and have a minute to look at something for me?02:52
* perlDreamer will be on until late tonight my time02:53
+perlDreamerwhich is tomorrow your time02:53
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daviddelikatI'm about to take a sort break for a ~late~ dinner and then try to fix the formatting on the EMS02:55
daviddelikatits doing that thing where WG sends unproccessed pages out. so that they do not have correct formatting02:56
daviddelikatanytime you feel lilkt peeking at it http://delikat.homeip.net:8080/ with the default password02:57
daviddelikatlook at the submission queue -> the three links on top of the datatable.02:57
daviddelikatalso let me know how it works for firefox.  AFAIK it only works in safari.02:58
daviddelikatI'll be back in about fifteen.  I appretiate any input you can give.02:58
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+perlDreamerI'm getting called for dinner, too.  I'll be back in a while03:22
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CIA-53webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r3950611 / (3 files in 3 dirs): i18n the event recurrence form. Fixes bug #11194 - http://bit.ly/2YsjSK04:06
CIA-53webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.7 * r23b82f5 / (3 files in 3 dirs): i18n the event recurrence form. Fixes bug #11194 - http://bit.ly/4o9e8A04:06
CIA-53webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r1eeb76e / (3 files in 3 dirs): newByLineage should log its own error. Fixes bug #11192 - http://bit.ly/28faVU04:29
CIA-53webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.7 * r2a9f2c0 / (3 files in 3 dirs): newByLineage should log its own error. Fixes bug #11192 - http://bit.ly/2hFA0r04:29
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+perlDreamerhey, patspam!05:00
+perlDreamerHow are you doing?05:00
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+perlDreamerdaviddelikat: this is what I've found05:35
+perlDreamerthe DataForm on the view submission queue page just sits and spins.  Doesn't seem to load anything.05:36
+perlDreamerThe new submission form is streaming a bunch of HTML down the line.  The hoverhelp isn't being rendered because it has to be done with javascript, creating a new tooltip for each one.05:36
+perlDreamerA macro is rendered on the bottom of the Add Submission page05:37
+perlDreamerthe link "the first one", looks like it brings up a filled in Add Submission form page.05:38
+perlDreamersame broken International macro05:39
+perlDreamerWhen I click on Add Submission Form, it throws an error of some kind.05:39
* perlDreamer has to do some shopping, be back soon05:39
daviddelikatk thanks for the notes05:39
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daviddelikatback in he mornin06:53
+perlDreamer'night06:54
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daviddelikatSo I got tired of Firefox... and now I'm developing in Safari16:14
daviddelikatbut it is giving me this error:16:14
daviddelikatresource interpreted as other...16:14
daviddelikatand the file appears to be empty16:14
+BartJolwell, I do that to, when someone sends me a file, I read another and say that I don't get it :)16:18
+BartJolbut what kind off file?16:18
+BartJoldaviddelikat: I do have konqueror, so I might check it out16:21
+BartJoleven got safari on my other box16:22
daviddelikatwell, I realized as I was typinh in IRC that I had not yet googled the message16:22
daviddelikatso I did that16:22
daviddelikatand found that it seems to be GASP ~a bug~ in Safari...16:22
daviddelikatso I'm upgrading16:22
+BartJolah, at first I would guess wrong url copied or version tag not committed :)16:23
daviddelikatits a js faile in extras16:23
daviddelikats/faile/file/16:23
daviddelikatso if anything it would be mod_proxy16:23
+BartJolwell16:23
+BartJolnot per se16:23
daviddelikatand come to think of it I think I'll restart it16:24
daviddelikathow so?16:24
+BartJolextras is also a urlhandler16:24
+BartJolmight go something wrong there too, would be strange16:24
+BartJolbut not impossible16:24
daviddelikatwhats a 'urlhandler'?16:24
+BartJolwell,, look into your webgui conf at urlHandler16:25
+BartJolyou'll find some16:25
daviddelikatso its an asset or perl object of some kind16:25
+BartJolyeah16:25
+BartJolthe last16:25
+BartJolif a call comes to webgui, it first checks the urlHandlers16:26
+BartJoland handles them in the right order16:26
JDanPlBartJol: greate! You explained how webgui manage with URL's. Thanks.16:39
+BartJolehh with that short description?16:40
+BartJolit is only the first step :)16:40
+BartJolI made a contentHandler, so I had to understand it16:41
JDanPlYes, but I know now where is begining16:41
+BartJolah16:41
+BartJolin the dev book there is a nice diagram of that16:41
JDanPlI have to order this book. 16:42
+BartJolthe contenthandlers work almost the same (so order in conf is important)16:43
+BartJolso if no special case in urlhandling, it is content, then it checks whether it is a contenthandler, if yes->execute, if not->retrieve normal content16:44
JDanPlSo contentHandlers represents some actions16:45
+BartJolI can do a presentation at the wuc next year: WebGUI::TheShortWay16:45
+BartJolyes, like turning admin on16:45
+BartJolmostly it changes some session properties16:45
+BartJolI believe16:45
+BartJolor allows you to add assets16:46
+BartJolstuff like that16:47
+BartJolor set your session language (in 7.8.3)16:47
+BartJoljust check the contentHandler order for that16:48
+BartJolalso in the conf16:48
JDanPlok, I see16:50
+BartJolJDanPl: I had to dive into that with the language stuff. You wanna change it, but if you do that with a macro, that is executed when the page has almost rendered, so you have to do that before retrieving content16:50
JDanPlBartJol: I made a couple of simple macros. For example WebGUI::Macro::GroupIdTextUp which is extension to WebGUI::Macro::GroupeText. Can I send it at first to you?16:56
+BartJolsure16:56
+BartJolwhat do you want me to do with it?16:57
JDanPlCheck is it worth public and is it good prepared 16:58
+BartJolah, ok16:58
+BartJoljust e-mail me the file, tell what you want to do with it (should be clear from the POD) and what you would use it for16:59
+BartJolactually, if it passes the normal use test, it might be worthwhile to write a test for it16:59
+BartJolbut let's not go too fast17:00
JDanPlHow I can gain your emai? I don't see at sources17:00
+BartJoleven my smiley macro is downloaded17:00
+BartJolyou should have another open tab in your im client now17:00
+BartJolok, perlsyntax = ok17:11
+BartJolthat is a first important step17:11
JDanPlPerl is my home 17:11
JDanPlfrom many yers ;-)17:11
+BartJolbut often we shift all parameters in to a variable17:11
+BartJolto keep them tracked17:12
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JDanPlhm... there macros expect varius number of params17:14
+BartJolJDanPl: it might be me, but I thought 0 was a valid value, and so the !$param statement seems odd17:14
JDanPlyes, you are right17:14
+BartJolhet thenm in an array first and stuff them in a hash17:15
+BartJolI did that with mu languagepageswitch, it is on the bazaar17:15
+BartJolalmost the same handling of that hash17:15
+BartJolexcept for what you're actually doing17:16
+BartJolJDanPl: group Id 3 is not recognised17:26
+BartJolwhich is strange17:26
+BartJolit exists17:26
+BartJoland I am in it as admin17:27
+BartJolfor the groupidtextup macro17:27
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+BartJolmmm and the other gives a strange error: Macro has no process sub: WebGUI::Macro::GroupTextUp. which it has....17:31
JDanPlIt's strange. In my instance of WebGUI it works corrctly. I have to check it17:32
+BartJolwell, it might be my install17:33
+BartJolIt was more glancing17:33
+BartJolso I guess I did something wrong17:33
JDanPljuts moment17:34
+BartJolit is called, so I put it in the right dir and I got the name right in the conf17:35
JDanPlSimple test ^GroupIdTextUp('3','Group 3','1','Group 1'); showd me macro works right17:36
+BartJolmmm, then I did something, let's have a look17:38
+BartJolmmm, it parses, so that is good17:42
JDanPlI concern that spliting array to hash does not guarantee former order. For example foreach my $language (keys %assetsLanguage) { not always run in the same order17:47
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+BartJolthat is correct, since it is an hash17:48
JDanPlIn macro GroupIdTextUp order of params is important. 17:49
+BartJolok17:49
+BartJolthen leave it in the array and just shift out 2 in each loop17:49
JDanPlok17:50
+BartJolthe use use of @_ is very nice perl, but maybe not better readable17:50
+BartJoldo you have it in a custom dir?18:01
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+BartJolI do, dunno why, but it can make a difference18:02
+perlDreamerBartJol, you ready for a merge?18:02
+BartJolsorry perlDreamer didn't come around to that testing yesterday18:02
+perlDreamerno sweat18:02
+BartJolwell, I did make a fork18:02
+BartJolbut after that something was a bit strange18:03
+BartJoland I had to do other stuff18:03
+BartJolso unfortunately, no18:03
+BartJollet's have a look18:03
+BartJoldid you already did something with that BackToSite stuff? otherwise it is useless to look at it now18:04
+perlDreamerI haven't done anything  yet.18:05
+perlDreamerFrom your email this morning, I thought you might have started some new test18:05
+perlDreamerwhich means merging would get me partially done code18:05
+perlDreamerwhich is like eating half cooked pannenkoeken18:05
+BartJolthat might be true at the moment18:06
+BartJolor cooked haring18:06
+BartJolat this moment I'm getting used to working with that fork18:08
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@tavistoyo pD18:33
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daviddelikatso what is it in template processing that determines whether macros are processed or not?18:55
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@Haargmacros aren't processed as part of the template processing18:55
@Haargthey are processed on output18:56
@Haargthere are some cases where they are processed aside from output, but those are handled by the individual components, not as part of template processing18:57
daviddelikatwhats the switch that turns it on or off? 18:57
@Haargin what case?18:57
daviddelikatI have a macro that is not being' translated'18:57
daviddelikathow many cases are there?18:57
@Haargwhen you are outputting content, you can tell it not to process macros18:58
@Haargthat isn't done in a lot of places though18:58
@Haargwhat is the case you are dealing with?18:58
daviddelikatI'm returning some JSON that contains HTML 18:58
daviddelikatdo I need to run it through Macro processing manually?18:59
@Haargyou'll have to manually process the macros18:59
daviddelikatthanks19:00
daviddelikatI don't know why I didn't think of that myself19:01
@Haargif the mime type is set to something that isn't text/ it disables macro parsing19:01
@Haargbecause you can't do automatic macro parsing on json content19:02
daviddelikatHaarg: do you know what JS needs to run in order to get hoverHelp rendered correctly?19:05
@Haargthe hoverhelp stuff is all in www/extras/hoverHelp.js.  it's been a while so i don't know exactly what you need to do for stuff added after page load19:07
+perlDreamerit's evil, evil bug day19:11
daviddelikatis there any other kind of bug?19:14
+perlDreameryeah, there are cute fluffy little bugs that take 3.5 minutes to fix19:14
daviddelikatI like to call those 'typos19:14
+perlDreamerso far, I've had the 0 ne 0 bug, the duplicate database property bug and the perl array autovivifaction bug.19:14
CIA-53webgui: Colin Kuskie master * rd852602 / (docs/changelog/7.x.x.txt lib/WebGUI/Shop/Pay.pm): 19:25
CIA-53webgui: Fix small number handling in the Shop. Fixes bug #1119519:25
CIA-53webgui: Format the number to be checked against 0.00 in Shop/Pay.pm, since sometimes perl19:25
CIA-53webgui: will leave small remainders when subtracting numbers. - http://bit.ly/qzsmK19:25
CIA-53webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.7 * r16f6aa4 / (docs/changelog/7.x.x.txt lib/WebGUI/Shop/Pay.pm): 19:25
CIA-53webgui: Fix small number handling in the Shop. Fixes bug #1119519:25
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CIA-53webgui: will leave small remainders when subtracting numbers. - http://bit.ly/rMeAd19:25
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ecopunkI have a quick question... Is there any way to give a group permission to edit templates (New Content > Utilities > Templates) without putting them in the Admin group?21:03
+perlDreamerecopunk, by default all templates are owned by the group called Turn Admin On21:06
+perlDreamerbut I've never seen that menu you're talking about21:07
ecopunkHmmm... There must be a change in the setup I'm working with, as I've already tried placing the user in that group to no avail.21:09
+perlDreamerlet me double check, I could wrong21:09
+perlDreamerIt's a day that ends in Y21:09
+perlDreamerI've checked 1 Article Template, and it's owned by Turn Admin On21:10
+perlDreamerexcuse me, not owned by, but Group To Edit is Turn Admin On21:11
+perlDreamernow, adding a template is different from editing a template21:12
+perlDreameris that what you mean21:12
daviddelikatpreaction: do you happen to know how to get initHoverHelp to work from other places?21:14
+perlDreamerdaviddelikat, I think patspam or perlmonkey2 knows how to do that21:16
+perlDreamerthey've shipped stuff across XHR/JSON requests for the Survey21:16
daviddelikatvery good, are they around?21:16
+perlDreamerdon't know, but looking through the Survey JS would be a good place to start21:16
+perlDreameralso, you could look at the Thingy, since it dynamically builds the forms to add new fields to a Thingy21:17
+perlDreamerand, iirc, it has hoverhelp21:17
daviddelikatI've looked through it a bit, but there is something alluding me21:17
+perlDreamereluding21:17
daviddelikatI inserted the call but the function is not found at the call point21:18
daviddelikatyes that21:18
ecopunkperlDreamer: Yes. Or perhaps I should say create a new template.21:22
+perlDreamercreating any new asset can only be done from a place where the current user has edit privileges21:22
+perlDreamerso if they can't edit the current page/asset/whatever, they won't be able to add a new template21:23
+perlDreamerfor example, in a new install, all assets are owned by Admin, and editable by the group Content Managers21:24
+perlDreamerexcept for the home page, which is owned by Admin, and editable by Admins21:24
+perlDreamerwhich seems kind of screwy21:24
+perlDreamerand checking further, it's pretty random as to the group editing privileges on the default content21:27
+perlDreamerHaarg, should those be made consistent?21:28
+perlDreamerselect a.assetId, title, d.groupIdEdit, d.ownerUserId from asset as a join assetData as d using (assetId) where lineage like '000001000002%';21:28
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+perlDreamerit is not going to be pretty21:33
jnegativeat least you're going.  more than most can say21:33
daviddelikatpatspam or perlmonkey2: I'm having trouble with initializing hover help after a JSON transfer21:34
daviddelikatHaarg: I don't suppose you've recently added a 'grep' function for searching packages in wgd?21:36
@Haargwgd ls --filter may do what you want21:36
@Haargi haven't really used it - patspam wrote it21:37
daviddelikatI'll look at it21:37
daviddelikatI really want to look inside templates for some text21:39
daviddelikatis there any way to dump the whole thing to disk?21:39
@Haargwgd export-branch21:41
daviddelikatis that a new command?  I don't seem to have it here.21:42
@Haargrelatively new, yes21:43
daviddelikatI figured it out21:43
daviddelikatdash not underscore21:44
ecopunkperlDreamer: Weird, still can't get it to work. Thanks, though... You gave me a few more ideas to try.21:49
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+perlDreamerdaviddelikat: you can also look at docs/create.sql, but it's not easy23:32
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+perlDreamerin YUI, can a button have more than 1 listener for an event?01:53
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daviddelikatI figured out what I was missing for hoverhelp...03:21
daviddelikatit was the hoverhelp style sheet!03:21
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CIA-53webgui: Colin Kuskie master * rb4112e8 / (t/Shop/Ship.t t/Shop/ShipDriver/UPS.t): Update tests for UPS driver. Cleanup diags. - http://bit.ly/2ItEsC06:56
+perlDreamerthat's right folks, you saw it here first06:57
+perlDreamerWebGUI now has a UPS shipping driver06:57
CIA-53webgui: Colin Kuskie master * rbc0a774 / docs/create.sql : Preparing for 7.8.3 release. - http://bit.ly/mObO107:20
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CIA-53webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r0b972be / (docs/gotcha.txt sbin/testEnvironment.pl): Document that Locales::Country is required for the new UPS shipping driver. - http://bit.ly/13vAkR07:35
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+perlDreamerthanks, Radix_08:16
+Radix_It's about all I do anymore I'm afraid ;(08:16
+perlDreamerNo more webgui work?08:16
+Radix_nah, no time these days..08:17
+perlDreamerthat's a bummer man08:17
+Radix_we're still using 7.0.8 here at work and I haven't had time to go and upgrade it08:17
+Radix_that said.. it's working well still, so can't complain :)08:17
+Radix_About to get married in a few days, so will have even less time for a while ;)08:18
+perlDreamerCongratulations!08:18
+Radix_ta :)08:18
CIA-53webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r5ef8252 / (4 files in 4 dirs): Ready for 7.8.4 development cycle. - http://bit.ly/mjzRW08:20
CIA-53webgui: JT Smith master * r33f0383 / (docs/changelog/7.x.x.txt lib/Spectre/Workflow.pm): Fixed a compatibility problem between WRE and new Spectre code. - http://bit.ly/vHmWk08:39
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+BartJolKlausH: is there a UPS translator for all  that terminilogy?13:18
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SDuensinGood morning.16:26
+BartJolmorning16:58
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SDuensinWow.  I completely do not understand Microsoft.  Their home page proclaims:  "Windows 7 is pretty dope," "...my games partition survived," "after ironing out a few kinks...is my favorite OS."  Gee, glowing endorsements.17:08
+BartJolyeah the faith drips out of it17:09
SDuensinWho decided to put "my games partition *survived*" on the home page?!17:10
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+BartJolI don't know17:12
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SDuensinIf I was a developer for them, I'd be hunting that person down.17:13
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SDuensinCan you imagine?  "Hey rizen!  WebGUI 8 didn't destroy my site!" and he puts it on the home page.  :-)17:14
daviddelikatperhaps 'dope' has changed sense, like bad == good17:14
SDuensinThing is, the "dope" comment is the best one up there!17:14
daviddelikatyeah, I see the rest ow, -- took a while to load the rest... ( slow connetion )17:15
SDuensinThe other is happy it didn't destroy his other partition, and the last now likes W7 after he tweaked/fixed it.  Amazing!17:15
+BartJolwell, maybe they have a new policy for only talking about windows in understatements...17:15
daviddelikatyeah thats pretty funny17:15
daviddelikatgotta get an image of that...17:16
SDuensinhehe17:16
SDuensinI just checked.  It's a shame my MS buddy isn't online right now.  :-D17:16
+BartJolwindows 7, the windows that didn't break all stuff17:16
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daviddelikatI've got screen prints17:17
SDuensinJust amazing.17:18
SDuensinGlad someone got copies.  I'm stuck browserless halfway through an IE8 upgrade.17:19
+BartJoloh, mine went fine17:19
daviddelikathttp://dl.getdropbox.com/u/597042/survived%20win%207.jpg17:19
SDuensin(And that's pronounced "Aye-Eeeeeeeeee!")17:19
daviddelikathttp://dl.getdropbox.com/u/597042/iron%20win%207.jpg17:19
daviddelikatperhaps I should crop them a bit?17:20
+BartJolnice, that chat window in the background :)17:20
SDuensinWhat are you chatting with?  I don't recognize it.17:21
daviddelikatpidgin17:22
daviddelikatits pretty nice17:22
daviddelikateven has a facebook plugin17:22
SDuensinNever used it for IRC.  Cool.17:22
+BartJolchatting with pidgin too17:22
daviddelikatI recently found that you can very easily move you settings17:22
daviddelikatjust copy the '.purple' folder from application settings17:23
SDuensinI'm taking the scenic route to get here...  Windows->NX->SSH->LinuxBox->XChat->ZNC->IRC.  :-)17:23
daviddelikatwow!17:23
SDuensinMy IM path is even worse.  :-)17:24
daviddelikatI don't have that kind of patience17:24
SDuensinBut it lets me connect to IRC/IM from anywhere with any IRC client.  I can connect multiple times and all the windows get updated at the same time.  I can disconnect and it buffers what I miss for playback.  I can even get it on my phone.17:25
SDuensinWell, all you'd need is the ZNC part.  It's a bouncer.  For IM, I put Bitlbee behind ZNC.17:25
daviddelikatI've thought about using a VM for my stuff17:25
daviddelikatI already VM my development17:25
daviddelikatso I never have to close my sessions17:26
SDuensinThe NX/SSH stuff is how I'm punching through the firewall at work to get to my Linux desktop at home.  It also lets me suspend and resume from elsewhere later.  I've been logged in with XChat running for weeks now.  :-)17:26
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SDuensinIt's kind of neat.  It's really shown me how little I rely on OS-specific software for my day-to-day.  The only program I really miss having is 1Password.17:27
+BartJolwell, that's considered save by some17:28
+BartJolsafe17:28
SDuensinWhat's safe?17:28
+BartJolmore than 1 passwd17:28
SDuensinI mean the Mac app "1Password".17:29
+BartJolah17:29
+BartJoldidn't know that17:29
SDuensinIt's a really slick password manager.17:29
SDuensinI just need to find an open source one I like.  Been too lazy since 1P does the job.17:29
SDuensinHere's a nice example of NX being very handy.  Gotta reboot my PC.  But I'm not leaving.  :-)17:31
+BartJolmike, it's amaaaazing17:32
daviddelikatSDuensin: keeppass is open source.  just released 2.?17:32
daviddelikati'm still on 1.1 so I don't know what the new one looks like17:33
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SDuensinI'll look into it.17:34
SDuensin(See?  All rebooted!)17:34
daviddelikatvery nice17:34
daviddelikathttp://keepass.info/17:35
SDuensinMono, eh?  I guess I can live with that.  17:36
daviddelikatone of these days there will be ~real~ portability17:36
SDuensinThis box has "seahorse" password and key manager thingie on it.17:37
daviddelikatwhen people start building apps in LLVM17:37
SDuensinTechnology-wise, I like Mono.  Licensing, it's a bit spooky.17:37
daviddelikatLLVM apps you could run the same apps from USB on linux,mac,win and whatever else comes along17:38
daviddelikatI wonder how long it will be before I start seeing Win7 licenses in my E-Scrap...17:40
daviddelikattook less than a year for WinXP17:41
SDuensinYea, LLVM is neat.  A game engine I've been working on is going to use it to run under Flash.  :-)17:41
SDuensinParrot looks neat for cross-platform stuff, too.17:43
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+perlDreamerHaarg, I mistyped this: git commit -ac24e4ecc17:46
+perlDreamerand now it won't let me commit anymore17:46
+perlDreamerwhen I try to commit, it just gives me the standard command line prompt back17:46
+perlDreamerno error  messages17:46
+perlDreamernada17:46
@Haargwhat were you intending to type?17:47
@Haargand what do you get from git status17:47
+perlDreamersupposed to have typed git commit -ac 24e4ecc17:47
+perlDreamergit st shows nothing unusual: http://gist.github.com/22613817:48
+perlDreamerah, pre-commit hook tripped17:48
+perlDreamerI redirected all output to dev/null17:49
+perlDreamerbecause 1500 lines of passing is not good17:49
SDuensinWish we could direct users there.17:49
+perlDreamerbut then they wouldn't pay their bills17:50
SDuensinHalf mine don't anyway.  Bastards.17:50
+BartJolstrange, tests for SetLanguage also pass with more languages installed, it's amazing17:54
+perlDreamerNice work, BartJol17:55
+BartJolah, only the macro fails17:55
+BartJolbecause 2 sets of tmpl_vars17:55
+BartJolor double loop actually17:55
+perlDreamerwell, contact the author and report it as a bug17:56
+perlDreamerthe t/International.t installs a fake language pack that you can use to test that behavior17:56
+BartJolI don't like the author17:57
+BartJolhe pushes his own so called "features" into the core, without anyone asking but him17:57
+perlDreamerwell, that last part may not be true17:58
+perlDreamerAs part of WebGUI Statistics, JT collects which macros are enabled on a site17:58
+perlDreamerso, in a few months, you could ask him if anyone is using PickLanguage17:58
+BartJoloh, cool17:58
+BartJollet's bug him right away :)17:58
+BartJolbut no-one asked me to do it, oh no that's not true either, bepo wanted something like that, but scared her away, that seems to happen with germans18:02
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@HaargperlDreamer, is your pre-commit hook using prove?  why can't you just have it run in non-verbose mode?  that would output like 4 lines if there weren't any errors.18:10
+perlDreamerI was using perl for the hook18:10
+perlDreamera few days ago, I added this to the end: 2>&118:11
+perlDreamerthat was a mistake18:11
+perlDreamerBartJol, is it a good time to merge in your test branch?18:24
CIA-53webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r24e4ecc / (2 files in 2 dirs): Fix an i18n typo in the EMS. - http://bit.ly/3CvSZ218:24
+BartJolwell, I made a mess of all my git repo's18:24
* perlDreamer will wait then :)18:24
* SDuensin still doesn't grok git.18:24
+BartJolI use an account and have 3-4 repo's under it18:25
+perlDreamergit r0Xer$18:25
SDuensinSo I hear.18:25
+BartJolexcept the international and picklange and macrotesting repo's, it's a mess and I need to clean that up18:25
+perlDreamerlet me know when you're ready18:26
+perlDreamerSDuensin, here's just 1 killer feature of git.  It's called stash18:26
+perlDreamerlet's suppose you're in the middle of working on something18:26
+perlDreamerand you have to drop what you're doing and work on a new project18:27
+perlDreamerin SVN, you'd have to make another checkout18:27
+perlDreamerin git, you say "git stash save"18:27
+perlDreamerand it rolls you back to HEAD, and save all of your work on a stack so you can pop it off later18:27
SDuensinThat would be handy.18:28
+perlDreamerit's massively handy18:28
+perlDreamerMy stack depth averages 1 on a day to day basis18:28
SDuensinI was just about to ask.  :-)18:28
+perlDreamerpatspam++ for clueing me in18:28
* perlDreamer heads off to a coffeeshop with Mrs Dreamer. bbiaw18:29
+BartJolcoffeeshop....18:29
SDuensinI'm using Redmine for project & source control.  I knew how SVN worked in it.  GIT seems newer in their "support".18:29
SDuensinFood time here.  Back sometime.18:31
+BartJolmmm it seems that I finally got it18:37
+BartJolor that I screwed up, and when my branche is merged, the whole of webgui disappears18:40
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+perlDreamerahhh, coffeeshop!19:31
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+perlDreamermorning, patspam19:49
+perlDreameryou poor, east coast jetlagged programmer19:49
+patspamhehe19:49
+patspamhey perlDreamer!19:49
+patspamjust wired up my poor, jetlagged desktop pc19:49
+perlDreameris it liking New York?19:49
+patspamit's still acclimatising :)19:50
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+patspamas is my wifi connection19:51
+perlDreamerdid you see that I finally got in an ironman post?19:52
+perlDreamerand that someone else blogged about it?19:52
+patspamooh not yet!19:52
+patspamI'm behind on my rss feeds19:53
+perlDreamergit pre-commit hook for webgui19:53
+patspamsweet, for test suite integration?19:54
+perlDreameryeah.  although I'm just testing t/00_compile.t19:55
+patspamthat's awesome19:56
+patspamman I get so many telemarketing calls here!19:57
+perlDreamerthere's a registry called the Do Not Call List.19:57
+patspamheh yeah, just googled it19:58
+perlDreameralso, if they call you, you can tel them, "Please add me to your Do Not Call list and do not call again."19:58
+perlDreamerand they have to do that19:58
+perlDreamerwell, at least in Oregon.  Not sure if that's a national law or not19:58
+patspamexcept they're all pre-recorded messages19:58
+perlDreamerthose are illegal in Oregon, too19:59
+patspamI knew i should've moved to Oregon instead20:00
+perlDreameryeah, except for that whole girlfriend thing...20:01
* patspam heads out for lunch20:16
daviddelikathow does WG handle the numeric i18n codes?20:22
+perlDreamerdavidelikat, the same way it handles stringy i18n codes20:22
+perlDreamerexcept that you don't have to quote them in perl code20:22
daviddelikatbut where are they stored?20:23
+perlDreamerwhich namespace are they in?20:23
daviddelikatdo you need a specific i18n object?20:23
daviddelikator are they on all of them?20:23
+perlDreamerno, but the i18n objects are created with a default namespace20:23
+perlDreamerso $i18n->get('key') only works if it's in the default namespace for that object20:23
+perlDreamerso, find where the object was instanciated and you'll know what the namespace is20:24
daviddelikatwhat neamsace are the numeric codes in?20:24
+perlDreamerwhat do you mean by "numeric code"?20:24
daviddelikatcode 99 translates as untitled20:24
daviddelikatwhat namespace is it in?20:25
+perlDreameragain, you're asking the question backwards20:25
+perlDreamerto know what code 99 is, you have to know the namespace20:25
+perlDreamersince the keys are not globally unique20:25
daviddelikatI understand what you are saying20:27
daviddelikatbut I was hoping to find out that there are some standard codes like 'untitled' that are available across the board20:28
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+perlDreamerno, each key is unique to its namespace20:28
+perlDreamerso you have to go digging to find out if they're defined in other namespaces20:28
+perlDreamerthat's starting to sound like a good wgd plugin20:29
+perlDreamerwgd i18n key=9920:29
+perlDreameror wgd i18n search="some value/phrase/regex"20:29
daviddelikatdo you know what module implements the i18n object?20:29
+perlDreamerInternational.pm20:29
daviddelikatok course, why don't I ever think of that...20:30
SDuensinAnyone see this?  http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/?p=444320:30
+perlDreamernope20:31
SDuensinYet another market for them to half-ass.20:31
+perlDreamerwe'll have to see if the code lives up to the projected hype20:31
+perlDreamerbut know one thing for sure, it just got harder to sell WebGUI into Microsoft shops20:32
+perlDreamerdaviddelikat: key 99 is in the Asset and WebGUI namespaces20:32
SDuensin"Microsoft Shops" worry me.  Too much Kool-Aid drinking going around.20:33
daviddelikatyeah I found it20:33
+perlDreamerand it means Title in both cases20:33
daviddelikatI'm just wondering if I should make my own or use that one.20:33
+perlDreameruse that one20:33
+perlDreamerWe have plans to flatten the namespaces in i18n, which will result in a smaller translation pack.20:34
+perlDreamerbut for now, it makes the job of the translators easier20:34
daviddelikatsounds like a great idea20:34
+perlDreamerevery once in a while, I go through and try to prune out duplicates20:34
+perlDreamerbut it's a lot of work20:34
+perlDreamerand it almost guarantees breakage in private code20:35
daviddelikatit would be a good start to have a set of standard items which are imported into all namespaces ( possibly with numeric codes to eliminate problems )20:36
+perlDreamerthe importing into all namespaces is a problem20:36
daviddelikatnot really:  %target = ( %part1, %part2 );20:37
daviddelikatjust make sure that part1 is all text keys and part 2 is all numeric keys20:37
+perlDreamerall of the old, original WebGUI keys are numeric20:38
+perlDreamerbut a lot of the newer ones aren't20:38
daviddelikatthat is the point20:39
+perlDreamerso you wouldn't get all the useful ones20:39
daviddelikatall the new custom keys are text20:39
+perlDreamerlike month and day names20:39
daviddelikatperhaps the get function needs to have a map?20:40
+perlDreamerget was tweaked to make it really fast20:41
daviddelikatlike:   return $h1->{key} || $h2->{key} || $h1->{$map{key}}20:41
+perlDreamersince i18n is one of the bottlenecks20:41
daviddelikati guess that would eliminate many of the ways that would make it handy...20:41
daviddelikatfast and hany dont usually go together20:42
daviddelikats/hany/handy/20:42
daviddelikatI gotta git back to work20:42
+perlDreamerYES!20:43
+perlDreamerI've fixed the Survey bug20:43
+perlDreamerit was a 1-line fix20:44
+perlDreamernow I have to yard out 50-100 lines of alert and debug code...20:44
+perlDreamermaybe I should check it in IE6, too20:46
+perlDreamerare there any safari-using devs who could check out a JS patch for me?20:46
+perlDreamerwait20:46
+perlDreamerI...20:46
+perlDreamerno, my VM is out of disk space20:47
+perlDreamerstill need a safari-using dev20:47
daviddelikatI can peak 20:47
daviddelikatis this a url peak or an install and test peak?20:47
+perlDreamerinstall and test peek20:47
daviddelikatsoryr, no time20:48
+perlDreamerno swet20:48
+perlDreamersweat20:48
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+patspamperlDreamer: actually i lie, it has a basement.. does that qualify as 2 storeys?22:05
+perlDreamerno22:05
+perlDreamerstoreys are above ground22:05
daviddelikatEMS Submissions are functional22:06
daviddelikatWooHoo!22:06
+perlDreamerall right!22:06
daviddelikatits only 1.5 weeks late22:06
+perlDreamerwhat's the secret sauce for hoverhelp over JSON/XHR?22:07
daviddelikatstyle sheet22:07
+perlDreamercool22:07
daviddelikatI had wq-hoverhelp.js but not wq-hoverhelp.css22:07
daviddelikatnow I have to get the activity to commit changes...22:08
daviddelikatso if an activity returns 'WAITING' does it come back with the same session?22:09
+perlDreamerno22:12
+perlDreamerif you need persistent data, store it in the Workflow Instance's scratch22:12
daviddelikatI was trying to decide if I should commit when I return waiting or just when I return done22:12
daviddelikatI think it should commit in both cases22:13
+perlDreamerI don't know what you're trying to do, but in most cases "commit" happens way before any kind of post-processing or approval22:13
daviddelikatbecause there is no particular connection between the items created22:13
daviddelikatthe submission is approved, and an EMSTicket record needs to be created22:14
+perlDreamerthat sounds like it should be an autocommit22:14
daviddelikatif I process more than one row should I auto commit each row or just at the end?22:15
+perlDreamerthink about how a user might want to handle rolling back version tags to undo a commit22:16
daviddelikatooooh good catch22:16
daviddelikatprobably one at a time22:16
daviddelikatthanks22:17
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wgGuest72hi guys22:51
@Haarggreetings22:51
@preactionhi22:51
wgGuest72i am really new to webgui22:52
wgGuest72and am impressed by the sites that is running it right now22:52
wgGuest72want to try it 22:52
wgGuest72but wont install 22:52
wgGuest72any ideas?22:52
@preactionwhat won't install?22:53
wgGuest72i wanna start off using my wamp server22:53
@preactiondebian package? perhaps try the vmware instance?22:53
@preactionah22:53
@preactionso a source install22:53
wgGuest72yes22:53
wgGuest72am i doing something wrong22:54
@preactionwhat is happening?22:54
wgGuest72or everything wrong?22:54
@preactionhttp://www.webgui.org/community-wiki/source-install <- here's an.. okay.. document i keep meaning to update22:54
+perlDreamerthat document is pretty accurate22:55
+perlDreamerI keep using it with no problems22:55
wgGuest72ok22:55
wgGuest72i will go there right away22:55
@preactionyeah, if you skip the parts about compiling the crap you already have22:55
@preactionit clutters the real instructions, in my opinion22:55
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@preactionstart with the big header that says "WebGUI"22:55
+perlDreamermaybe we need a "distribution" install page22:55
wgGuest72oh so perl is required for it to run?22:56
+perlDreameryes22:56
@preactionyes22:56
+perlDreamerit is not a Java or PHP or .NET application22:56
@preactionit's a mod_perl system22:56
@preactionoh, wait, wamp22:57
@preactionthat's windows, no?22:57
wgGuest72yes22:57
@preactionyou're going to be better off trying the vmware appliance on http://getwebgui.org22:57
wgGuest72ok wait..i have a web server 22:57
wgGuest72so what files do i need to get it up and running22:58
+perlDreamerrunning Linux, Unix, Solaris, FreeBSD, MacOS X?22:58
wgGuest72hmm22:58
@preactiondo you have command-line access to that web server?22:58
wgGuest72no i havent had a reason to use that22:58
wgGuest72so i guess i have more problems than i thought ..lol22:59
@preactionwell, that's really the only one. 22:59
@preactionbut vmware player is free, and the vmware appliance is really easy to use22:59
+perlDreamerpreaction is right, try the VMWare appliance if you want to try WebGUI on windows22:59
@preaction(you just start it up and then visit the right IP in your web browser)22:59
@preactionotherwise demo.webgui.org works as well23:00
@preactionwell, for 24hrs at least23:00
xdangerTranslating is hard =)23:00
+perlDreamerif you need help with terms, xdanger, we can help23:00
+perlDreamerand kudos for translating!23:00
wgGuest72hmm 23:00
wgGuest72ok great guys23:00
wgGuest72now these is a community23:01
xdangerperlDreamer: I'm having hard time translating the term Asset. There is now direct translation..23:01
xdangers/is now/is not/23:02
+perlDreamerHow about "resource", or "item" ?23:02
@preactionpart?23:03
@preactionobject?23:03
+perlDreamerPiece23:03
+perlDreamerwe should add those to the context for "Asset" in the main, English i18n23:03
@preactionprobably be a good idea23:04
+perlDreamerI'm on it23:04
@preactionbut the single word "asset" is everywhere23:04
@preactionbut every little bit helps23:04
+perlDreamerhave you had a chance to think about the skipNotification thing, preaction?23:04
xdangeritem translates too closely to physical object23:05
+perlDreamerthat's how we think of them, xdanger23:05
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xdangerbut it translates to object, stuff, part23:06
+perlDreameryes23:06
xdangerit's not something that any finnish will understand23:06
xdanger=)23:06
+perlDreamerah23:06
xdangerPiece might work..23:07
+perlDreamerin that case, you'll have to pick something that doesn't translate directly, than Finn's will understand.23:07
xdangerPiece/part23:07
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@preactionperlDreamer: no. i got some crappy-looking e-mails that appear to be from the Wiki though, so it at least works23:07
xdangerlike a part for the motor23:07
+perlDreamerit works, you just can't ever turn it off23:08
@preactionyou mean skipNotification?23:09
+perlDreameryes23:09
CIA-53webgui: Colin Kuskie master * re20223c / lib/WebGUI/Shop/Pay.pm : Remove debug code. - http://bit.ly/1VKHPz23:09
CIA-53webgui: Colin Kuskie master * ra51d693 / lib/WebGUI/i18n/English/Asset.pm : Better define the word, "Asset" in the i18n. - http://bit.ly/2QkkEp23:09
CIA-53webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r0e70378 / lib/WebGUI/i18n/English/ShipDriver_USPS.pm : Clarify how the insurance rate table works. - http://bit.ly/2rYsYd23:09
@preactionsetSkipNotification doesn't work?23:09
+perlDreamermaybe you could reread my email?  I described how it's broken in there23:09
wgGuest72guys is the right one23:10
wgGuest72http://www.vmware.com/appliances/directory/129623:10
@preactionah, i haven't been checking e-mail because it means i have to perform the tasks outlined23:10
@preactionwgGuest72: lord no, it's on sourceforge, one sec23:11
wgGuest72ok23:11
@preactionit IS webgui, it's just very very old23:11
+perlDreamerisn't it time to build a new one, for 7.7?23:11
@preactionwe have one, just not there23:11
wgGuest72ok23:11
xdangerbtw. has anyone implemented a resource reservation system?23:12
@preactionhere's one for 7.6, http://sourceforge.net/projects/pbwebgui/files/VMWare%20Appliances/WebGUI%207.6.20%20_%20WRE%200.9.2%20_%20CentOS%205/webgui-7.6.20-wre-0.9.2-centos-5.zip/download23:12
wgGuest72i use inmotionhosting..would anyone know if theysupport web gui23:12
@preactionit's 1.2G, just a warning23:12
+perlDreamerI've planned one, but not built it yet, xdanger23:12
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wgGuest72great..am downloading as we speak23:13
+perlDreamerxdanger, do you want me to email you what I've planned?23:14
+perlDreamerit's fairly rough23:14
xdangerI have a possible client that would require a reservation system for their truck washing service23:14
xdangersure23:14
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wgGuest72guys i will be back tomorrow..23:17
wgGuest72wanna be part of this community..23:17
wgGuest72thanks for ur help so far23:17
+perlDreamerYou're welcome :)23:18
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@preactionbout time we got some props23:18
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+perlDreamerprops?  Are those like assets?23:19
@preactionprops respect kudos recognition high five mad props23:20
SDuensinSomeone needs to warn wgGuest72 that you already have a #1 fan.23:26
SynQmorning23:28
SynQ;)23:28
SynQdue to frequent requests by some people (patspam, joeri) I'm picking up wre development23:28
SynQis git version 1.5.6 new enough for me?23:28
+patspammorning SynQ!23:29
+perlDreamerthat'll do it, SynQ23:29
SynQheya patspam 23:29
SynQhow it the usa doing?23:29
+patspambut 1.6.x would be even better23:29
SynQwell23:30
SynQif I can use the 'out of the box' version23:30
SynQfor debian lenny23:30
SynQI'm quite satisfied23:30
@Haargit will work just fine, but whenever i use old versions i run into options that are missing23:30
+patspamyeah me too!23:31
SynQubuntu has 1.6.323:31
@Haargbut the file formats are all compatible23:31
SynQI doubt I'm going to use very much of the options23:31
@preactionyou might be surprised once you find out how useful they are ;)23:31
SynQok23:32
SynQwe'll see23:32
SynQI'll get cracking on wre 0.9.4 then23:32
SynQsince I am not the one who is going to tackle the 64bit stuff 1.x is not for me23:33
+perlDreamerSynQ: will you be addressing the bug that was assigned to you?23:33
SynQthat I will23:33
SynQand some others too23:33
@Haarggit checkout --track is always the option i miss when using git 1.5.x23:34
+perlDreamerCould someone please curse for me, for about 30 seconds?23:36
@preactiondepends on what i'm cursing you for23:37
+perlDreamerfor bad error checking, and not writing enough tests23:37
@preactionbah, happens to the best of us23:38
@preactionJT did one just the other day that you fixed, committed without even testing from the UI23:38
+perlDreamerthat's why I wrote the git pre-commit hook23:39
SynQhaving others curse for you is lame23:39
@preactioni did one a while ago, the email that gets sent out for the wiki has the wrong user23:39
* perlDreamer will never write another syntax error again that gets committed23:39
@preactionat least, i don't thin... oh wait wait, that was JT that edited that wiki page, hence "Admin"23:39
@preactionor else it was spectre that sent the message23:40
@preactionanyway, i think something's wrong23:40
SynQperlDreamer: cursing done23:41
SynQit was hard, but I made it through that 30 seconds23:41
+perlDreamerthanks, man23:41
+perlDreamerI hope Emma didn't have to hear that23:41
+perlDreamerit would blister her tender young ears23:41
SynQnope23:44
SynQshe is asleep23:44
SynQso is Tessa23:44
SynQI have allready updated quite some packages23:45
SynQlike libjpeg wich is now at version 7 (used to be 6b)23:45
SynQand apache and graphviz23:45
+perlDreamermake sure you add Locales::Country23:47
+perlDreamerand any other new ones from testEnvironment23:47
SynQI won't do 7.8 requirements in 0.9.423:48
SynQfor that I will create a different WRE23:48
SynQright now I'm only updating 0.9.3 to something that isn't broken on my systems23:49
SynQcause 0.9.3 still uses some system libraries23:49
SynQwhich isn't right23:49
SynQand which makes it break on debian lenny with all packages updated23:50
SynQI'm after my own itch today23:50
* perlDreamer passes SynQ some Calamine lotion23:50
* SynQ chops of some of his aloe vera to mix with that23:51
@preactionit's always going to need some system libs, like libc23:51
SynQbut not like openssl libraries23:52
@preactioni'd like to know what the WRE does that the python xml parsers don't like23:52
@preactionor App::Nopaste23:52
SynQperl5.10.1 ?23:54
SynQwould you like that?23:54
@preactionindeed23:54
@preactionfixes Test::Class issues23:54
SynQok23:55
SynQthat is going in23:55
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CIA-53webgui: Colin Kuskie master * rfc6acc7 / (3 files in 3 dirs): Change how the shipping driver throws errors. Fixes bug #11202. - http://bit.ly/14UpdN00:17
CIA-53webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.7 * r340097f / (3 files in 3 dirs): Change how the shipping driver throws errors. Fixes bug #11202. - http://bit.ly/4jXX4d00:17
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xdangerIn the v2 of the admin console spec the edit function is under dropdown menu from the options of the asset? 99% of the time user wants to edit the asset, so shouldn't it be visible all the time?01:11
@preactionxdanger: post your comments to the thread, i'm in-and-out and can't keep track of things right now01:12
CIA-53webgui: Colin Kuskie master * rf9d97f2 / (2 files in 2 dirs): Always recreate the listener for the question and answer buttons, since their arguments change. Fixes bug #10985. - http://bit.ly/2vSuWx01:13
CIA-53webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.7 * re329f99 / (2 files in 2 dirs): Always recreate the listener for the question and answer buttons, since their arguments change. Fixes bug #10985. - http://bit.ly/4cUwBV01:13
+perlDreamerwoot!  More javascript01:13
* perlDreamer is on a roll01:13
* preaction butters perlDreamer01:13
+perlDreamerew01:14
+perlDreamerpreaction, /me is going to commit the skipNotification code01:14
@preactionk01:14
+perlDreameryou can review it from repo sometime before 7.8.5 in 13 days?01:15
@preactionyeah, i've kept your e-mail unread. monday i'll be catching up on everythig01:15
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+perlDreamerhowdy, xdanger22:40
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CIA-53webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r60d8ce3 / (4 files in 4 dirs): Fix name typos in the shopSaleNotificationGroupId. Fixes bug #11207 - http://bit.ly/2htwWJ23:15
CIA-53webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.7 * r942975d / (5 files in 4 dirs): Fix name typos in the shopSaleNotificationGroupId. Fixes bug #11207 - http://bit.ly/2L3Dbj23:15
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CIA-53webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.7 * r1028e37 / lib/WebGUI/Shop/Admin.pm : Supply a value, and a default value for Shop/Admin. - http://bit.ly/4dN8ZF01:33
CIA-53webgui: Colin Kuskie master * rc3727be / lib/WebGUI/Shop/Admin.pm : Supply a value, and a default value for Shop/Admin. - http://bit.ly/1B9Snh01:33
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+perlDreamerin git, is it possible to undo a branch merge after it's been committed?01:52
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CIA-53webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r0aab1c1 / (3 files in 2 dirs): Fix POD whitespace issues in the EMS. - http://bit.ly/1ZMkp202:29
CIA-53webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r924686b / (2 files in 2 dirs): Fix more POD whitespace problems in the EMS. - http://bit.ly/28b1A202:29
CIA-53webgui: Colin Kuskie master * rfc68756 / (2 files in 2 dirs): Update tests for changes to skipNotification. - http://bit.ly/2uTTqi02:29
+patspamnasty bug!02:39
+patspamanyone know what hangs around between requests in a modperl instance?02:41
+perlDreamerthe entire perl memory?02:44
+perlDreamerpatspam: do you know how to revert branches?02:44
+patspamyes02:44
+patspamjust committed locally?02:44
+perlDreamerno02:45
+patspamouch02:45
+perlDreameryes02:45
+perlDreamerI've spent 1.5 hours fixing broken code and tests, and it's time to cut bait02:45
+patspamprobably not too hard actually02:45
+patspamthe merge commit is conceptually just another commit in the branch's timeline02:46
+patspamit's just special in that it has more than 1 parent02:46
+perlDreamerah, that02:46
+perlDreamerthat's where the -m comes in02:46
+patspamif it was only committed locally you'd obviously just reset HEAD to point to the pre-merge commit02:47
+patspambut since you can't re-write the history now that everyone else can see it02:47
+patspamI would think the sensible thing to do is just check in a new commit that results in all the files being in their pre-merge state02:48
+perlDreamerisn't that what git revert -m will do for me?02:49
+perlDreamer-m takes a parent number02:49
+perlDreamerI just don't know which one is which02:49
+patspamyeah that looks like the right command02:49
+patspamgitk is good for visualising the history02:49
+patspamor git-reflog02:50
+patspamreflog will show you where the branch tip was before the merge02:50
+perlDreamergitk is showing me the parents02:53
+perlDreamerwhich one is "1"? :)02:53
CIA-53webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r7aa60c7 / docs/upgrades/upgrade_7.8.3-7.8.4.pl : 02:53
CIA-53webgui: Reverting EMS Submission Form.02:53
CIA-53webgui: This reverts commit 69a997aff9233c4e4edc3c67ec8f70af25b1ce64. - http://bit.ly/3i2omp02:53
CIA-53webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r4597dac / (6 files in 3 dirs): 02:53
CIA-53webgui: Reverting EMS Submissions.02:53
CIA-53webgui: This reverts commit 6932ddfeb3e1baf52d0e91280732f8d893e7b841. - http://bit.ly/40hlpn02:53
+patspamSurvey's ExpressionEngine has a modperl instance caching bug, just took me about a day to find it02:55
+perlDreamerouch02:55
+patspamgotta try to write a test case before i fix it02:55
+perlDreamerthat's not going to be fun02:56
+perlDreamergoing to use Mech?02:56
+patspamonly if i have to!02:56
+patspamif i can recreate the bug in a regular perl process that'll be enough02:57
+perlDreamertrue02:57
+perlDreamerI fixed some Survey JS bugs over the last few days02:57
+patspamyeah the front-end ain't great02:58
+perlDreamerit's better now, and i18n'ed02:58
+perlDreamerfound an example of branch revert03:03
+perlDreamerhttp://www.gitready.com/intermediate/2009/03/16/rolling-back-changes-with-revert.html03:03
+perlDreameractually, the front-end bug was just cosmetic, since you can drag and drop stuff where you need it03:03
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CIA-53webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r3c985a5 / (17 files in 10 dirs): 04:47
CIA-53webgui: Finish reverting EMS Submissions.04:47
CIA-53webgui: This reverts commit aab3a74026d28a69de00bcd250f5b697df70d802. - http://bit.ly/4fbcYF04:47
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CIA-53webgui: Patrick Donelan webgui-7.7 * r2be2ab4 / (3 files in 3 dirs): 05:31
CIA-53webgui: One-line fix for Survey ExpressionEngine bug that took over a day to find.05:31
CIA-53webgui: One of the file-scoped lexicals in ExpressionEngine wasn't being initialised,05:31
CIA-53webgui: which meant that tagged data was being cached across repeated engine runs05:31
CIA-53webgui: (including, would you believe, across modperl page requests).05:31
CIA-53webgui: The fix includes tests. - http://bit.ly/c3cEV05:31
CIA-53webgui: Patrick Donelan master * rbcd9994 / (3 files in 3 dirs): 05:31
CIA-53webgui: One-line fix for Survey ExpressionEngine bug that took over a day to find.05:31
CIA-53webgui: One of the file-scoped lexicals in ExpressionEngine wasn't being initialised,05:31
CIA-53webgui: which meant that tagged data was being cached across repeated engine runs05:31
CIA-53webgui: (including, would you believe, across modperl page requests).05:31
CIA-53webgui: The fix includes tests. - http://bit.ly/6Y35B05:31
* patspam rejoices in bug fixedness05:31
+perlDreamerpatspam, that hurts.05:31
+perlDreameryeah, and it makes perfect sense05:32
+perlDreamerit's almost like the parallel cache problems that we fixed in the Shop05:33
+perlDreamerpatspam, would you hate me if I ask you to revert those until after I finish the releases?05:33
+perlDreamerit'll mess up the tagging05:33
+patspamfor sure05:34
+patspamsorry didn't realise you were releasing05:34
+perlDreamerit's an emergency, off-time release05:35
+perlDreamermany bad Shop bugs05:35
CIA-53webgui: Patrick Donelan master * r5899fa4 / (3 files in 3 dirs): 05:38
CIA-53webgui: Revert "One-line fix for Survey ExpressionEngine bug that took over a day to find."05:38
CIA-53webgui: This reverts commit bcd99945ca343db94e40676dec749c8c4744f6dd. - http://bit.ly/25a1kt05:38
CIA-53webgui: Patrick Donelan webgui-7.7 * r51c987d / (3 files in 3 dirs): 05:38
CIA-53webgui: Revert "One-line fix for Survey ExpressionEngine bug that took over a day to find."05:38
CIA-53webgui: This reverts commit 2be2ab4428988917d11d33bec801a7264aa1fd5e. - http://bit.ly/y0kJY05:38
+perlDreamerone down, one to go05:55
CIA-53webgui: Colin Kuskie master * rec38f50 / (4 files in 4 dirs): Ready for 7.8.5 development cycle. - http://bit.ly/3w7HFv06:00
+patspamperlDreamer - I'm about to crash out, are you cool to un-revert that Survey bugfix for me?06:06
+patspamonce the release is done, that is06:07
+perlDreamerI'm not sure how to06:07
+perlDreamerdo I just revert the reversion06:07
+patspamwhat's the ETA on the release?06:07
+perlDreamer2.5 hours more06:07
+perlDreamerI have to release both branches06:08
@preactionyou can cherry-pick the original revision again06:08
+perlDreamerah, cool06:08
+perlDreamerit's covered, patspam06:08
+perlDreameryou are go for crash06:08
+patspamsweet, thanks!06:08
* patspam goes crash06:08
+perlDreamerhow's DC, preaction?06:08
@preactionmuch fun indeed06:09
@preactionthinking about moving out here06:09
+perlDreamerwow06:09
+perlDreamerthat is fun06:09
@preactionlots of hot single chicks, nice locale, good public trans, just expensive as all get-out06:10
@preactionbut then, this could be 4 drinks talking06:10
* perlDreamer advises to look for nice, single chicks. Hot ones can burn you06:10
@preactionbut not really, cuz i was thinking like this before 4 drinks06:10
+perlDreamerbut I'm also an old, married man06:11
@preactionoh no, no need to warn me there06:11
@preactionHot, Smart, Sane, pick two06:11
@preaction(or Sexy Smart Sane, if you like alliteration)06:11
@preactionso 7.8.4 is an emergency bugfix for the Shop bug?06:12
+perlDreameryes06:12
+perlDreamerso is 7.7.2506:12
@preactionk06:12
+perlDreamerwe do know now that Spectre cannot handle 10,000 emails quickly06:13
@preactionsaw the panic going on at TGC06:13
@preactionheh, i knew that ;)06:13
@preaction40,000 takes 3 days06:13
+perlDreameryeah, I've probably single handedly sunk TGC06:13
@preactioneven after maxing out sendmail settings06:13
@preactionoh pshaw06:13
@preactionthe naysayers can go screw06:13
@preactionit was 5 orders, maybe06:14
+perlDreamerthat's the drinks talking06:14
@preactionnow you're just being hurtful, but i'll let that go06:15
+perlDreamerit's been a rough day, preaction, I'm sorry06:15
+perlDreamerI was supposed to build the International USPS shipping plugin06:15
+perlDreamerbut instead spent it cleaning up bugs06:15
@preactionno worries, relax, it's late. do what you need to and take a day off06:16
+perlDreamerI may do that06:20
+perlDreameror half a day, anyway06:20
+perlDreamerholy crap!06:22
+perlDreamerworld's most expensive board game06:22
daviddelikatok heres my test script: http://webgui.pastebin.com/d1b6c1ee606:23
daviddelikatthink it'll work?06:23
+perlDreameryes06:25
+perlDreamerbut how will we tell if it passed or failed?06:26
daviddelikatby looking at the big.test.log06:26
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+perlDreameralso, have a look at http://smoke.plainblack.com/06:26
daviddelikatideally it would email the log or a link to it06:26
+perlDreamerHaarg modified buildbot to make that site06:27
daviddelikatso there is an automatic test system...06:28
daviddelikatquite amazing06:28
+perlDreameryes, but it's broken06:28
daviddelikatI like the way the little boxes work06:28
+perlDreamerpreaction has been wanting to build one in perl called Cradle06:28
daviddelikatwhats broken?06:29
+perlDreamerI don't know the details, but it's not making reports anymore06:29
+perlDreamerwe can ask Mr. Haarg tomorrow what's up06:33
daviddelikatmy little tester is having lots of failures...06:33
daviddelikatI did not restart the servers though...06:33
daviddelikator do a reset.06:34
+perlDreamersince you did an addsite, you shouldn't need to06:34
daviddelikatI won't be around tomorrow06:34
+perlDreamerI'll ask Haarg, or you could post to the dev list06:34
daviddelikatI think that I definitely should have reset the servers06:35
daviddelikatgetting lots of spectre errors06:35
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+perlDreamerwhat's the good word, tavisto?06:43
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CIA-53webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.7 * re797e89 / docs/create.sql : Preparing for 7.7.25 release. - http://bit.ly/1T9tC406:47
+perlDreameryay, it's done07:13
CIA-53webgui: Patrick Donelan master * r804dbcf / (3 files in 3 dirs): 07:14
CIA-53webgui: One-line fix for Survey ExpressionEngine bug that took over a day to find.07:14
CIA-53webgui: One of the file-scoped lexicals in ExpressionEngine wasn't being initialised,07:14
CIA-53webgui: which meant that tagged data was being cached across repeated engine runs07:14
CIA-53webgui: (including, would you believe, across modperl page requests).07:14
CIA-53webgui: The fix includes tests. - http://bit.ly/2RC7LQ07:14
CIA-53webgui: Patrick Donelan webgui-7.7 * ra396584 / (3 files in 3 dirs): 07:14
CIA-53webgui: One-line fix for Survey ExpressionEngine bug that took over a day to find.07:14
CIA-53webgui: One of the file-scoped lexicals in ExpressionEngine wasn't being initialised,07:14
CIA-53webgui: which meant that tagged data was being cached across repeated engine runs07:14
CIA-53webgui: (including, would you believe, across modperl page requests).07:14
CIA-53webgui: The fix includes tests. - http://bit.ly/2AbNQA07:14
CIA-53webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.7 * rc71a910 / (4 files in 4 dirs): Ready for 7.7.26 development cycle. - http://bit.ly/1azGoE07:14
+perlDreamerreleases are all done07:37
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+BartJolpreaction?12:12
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wgGuest78www.webgui.org13:35
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SquOnkHi everyone16:05
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SDuensinMorning16:29
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+BartJolSDuensin: those microsoft citations are better now17:58
SDuensinReally?  They changed them?17:58
+BartJolyeah, unfortunately17:59
+BartJolbut we have the screenshots17:59
SDuensinJust proves how stupid they were.  :-)17:59
+BartJolcan we use those for blackmailing them?18:00
SDuensinGive 'em to /.18:00
+BartJolah, that might be good18:01
+BartJolbut they're not my copyright18:01
SDuensinYea, MS certainly has the copyright on stupid.18:03
+BartJolwell, there are different versions, which fall under differnt licences18:07
CIA-53webgui: JT Smith master * r1304bf3 / (docs/changelog/7.x.x.txt lib/WebGUI/Form/Captcha.pm): The captcha form control had it's built in styles removed in favor of two classes: "wg-captchaForm" and "wg-captchaImage" - http://bit.ly/tz1kc18:11
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+BartJolwell, rfe rejected, with the comment what I should ask, a rfe is quickly committed18:34
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CIA-53wrebuild: JT Smith master * r505ce40 / (wre/docs/changelog.txt wre/sbin/wreconsole.pl): Fixed wreconsole crashes (#11208) - http://bit.ly/3xA6y519:10
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+perlDreamermorning, folks20:35
@Haargmorning20:37
+perlDreamerHaarg, is the github repo okay this morning?20:39
@Haargthat tag may be off20:41
+perlDreamerI'll look into it20:49
+perlDreamerany suggestions on where to put the git pre-commit hook into the repository?20:49
+perlDreamerI'm thinking a top level dev directory20:49
+perlDreamerwe can put the perltidy RC file, the Perl::Critic config file in there too20:49
SquOnkperlDreamer: Hi there20:50
@Haargi think we want to leave the perltidy file where it is20:50
@Haargso it gets used automatically20:50
SquOnkperlDreamer, Haarg: How's the SynCon encoding bug doing these days?20:50
@Haargno real progress20:50
SquOnk:(20:50
SquOnkHaarg: Have you pinpointed more or less what the problem is?20:51
@Haargi know why it happens20:51
@Haargbut if i change that i know it is going to break another case that was fixed in the past20:51
@Haargi need to get the tests working, but right now i can't get it to load a file that is using cyrillic20:53
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+perlDreamerHaarg, I'll make the directory, put the git hook in there, and update wgd to ignore the whole directory when doing a dist.20:54
+perlDreamerwe can add/move stuff in there later if we wish20:54
@Haargi may write another commit hook that does the same thing but only for files modified in the commit20:55
+perlDreamerthat would run faster20:55
+perlDreamerjust be sure you don't put 2>&1 at the end of it, like I did20:55
+perlDreamerI'll hold off and let you do it, then20:56
@Haargwell, i think it would be better to just use prove20:56
+perlDreamerprobably20:57
SDuensinUse:  2>&1 > justincase.log21:23
+perlDreamerno, Haarg is right.  prove is designed for aggregating and summarizing TAP data21:23
+perlDreamerwhat I did was just silly21:23
CIA-53webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.7 * rc47bc2d / (2 files in 2 dirs): Update tree nav template to open ancestors, and self. Fixes bug #11134 - http://bit.ly/1rGFHq21:24
CIA-53webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r274e82e / (2 files in 2 dirs): Update tree nav template to open ancestors, and self. Fixes bug #11134 - http://bit.ly/10RZjD21:24
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CIA-53webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.7 * rb8137dc / (docs/changelog/7.x.x.txt lib/WebGUI/Operation/Group.pm): Set a default for groups in addGroupsToGroupSave. Fixes bug #11203 - http://bit.ly/5s8mc21:34
CIA-53webgui: Colin Kuskie master * rc10363b / (docs/changelog/7.x.x.txt lib/WebGUI/Operation/Group.pm): Set a default for groups in addGroupsToGroupSave. Fixes bug #11203 - http://bit.ly/2CnaH221:34
+perlDreamerI'm going running21:47
SDuensinToo good not to share.  http://failblog.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/epic-fail-security-check-fail.jpg22:05
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@tavistowow Sduesin, what type of websites are you visiting23:39
@tavistoj/k I see the failblog23:39
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CIA-53webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r82e7e80 / (2 files in 2 dirs): Fix bug #11101. Folders from an earlier upgrade had their package flag set. - http://bit.ly/4iNPEd00:06
CIA-53webgui: Colin Kuskie master * rd4ca728 / docs/upgrades/upgrade_7.8.4-7.8.5.pl : Reset isPackage and isDefault on every asset from the 7.6.35 to 7.7.17 upgrade. Fixes bug #11115 and #11106 - http://bit.ly/1VDVwt00:06
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SquOnkI need to create a special Auth plugin. I understand a subclass of WebGUI::Auth is needed. What are the minimal set of methods needed?00:19
SquOnkIs there any documentation on the subject I can read, besides WebGUI::Auth's source?00:19
+perlDreamernot really00:19
+perlDreamerand wg8 will obsolete your plugin00:19
SquOnkperlDreamer: I can live with that :-)00:20
+perlDreamerWebGUI::Auth is not really OO based00:20
+perlDreamerit's more plugin based00:20
+perlDreameryou probably need to implement ALL methods that Auth::WebGUI does00:20
SquOnkperlDreamer: I see.00:20
SquOnkperlDreamer: This bank is going to use WebGUI for it's banking application. We'll build an Asset to do so, but authentication must be done through some webservices they provide00:21
SquOnkperlDreamer: Using LDAP is out of the question because the online banking users aren't there and "for your security" the only way to access that info is through the webservices.00:23
+perlDreamermakes sense00:23
SquOnkperlDreamer: So we're writing WebGUI::Auth::Bankname00:23
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+perlDreamerSquOnk, dannymk is the only dev I know who has written an Auth plugin in the last 5 years00:55
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vaydehey preaction, perlDreamer01:21
vaydehow you guys been?01:22
+perlDreamerhey, vayde!01:22
vaydelong time no type01:22
vaydewhat you been up to?01:22
+perlDreamerlots of hacking01:22
+perlDreamerI'm fulltime now01:22
vaydeawesome01:22
vaydesame outfit?01:22
+perlDreamerno, working for myself now01:23
+perlDreamerwww.perldreamer.com01:23
vaydecongrats!01:23
vaydethat's awesome!01:23
+perlDreamerthanks :)01:23
+perlDreamerhow 'bout yourself?01:24
vaydestill with US Bank01:24
vaydeI'm their chief apache/linux guy I guess you could say01:24
+perlDreamercool01:25
vaydesorta the resident in hose open source dark lord01:25
vaydethey really should use webgui, but they have their own thing01:25
vaydeI'm so lucky to have worked briefly with PB before coming there01:26
+perlDreamerthey'll learn01:26
vaydeno, I doubt it.01:26
+perlDreamerreally?01:26
vaydeno, they'll move off perl to some sort of java thing01:26
vaydewith a cobol backend01:26
vaydecos that's how the suits like to think01:26
vaydeso, I'm down recoving from surgery, and finally have time to play a bit with webgui again01:28
vaydeone problem, the wre tarball doesn't seem to have a wre.conf01:28
vaydeis there a standard/basic/example somewhere?01:28
+perlDreamerI think everyone is using the wreconsole to build that nowadays01:29
+perlDreamerbut not being a big WRE user, I couldn't tell you one way or the other01:29
vaydeyeah, it won't start withot the conf01:29
vaydemostly you build it from source yourself?01:29
+perlDreameryeah01:30
vaydeyeah, I'll probably just go do that01:30
vaydeeasier01:30
+perlDreamerI still run everything on Fedora01:30
+perlDreamerfor now01:30
+perlDreamerIt's starting to make me mad01:30
vaydeheh01:30
+perlDreamerbecause their perl is so slow01:30
vaydeI have to support rhel at work, and I do, but I'll stay ubuntu at home01:30
vaydeso, when did you switch from kernel hacking to webgui support?01:31
+perlDreamerkernel hacking?01:31
+perlDreamerI was a chip designer01:31
vaydeoh yeah, right, that was it01:32
vaydeIt's been a while man, 01:32
+perlDreamerI know01:32
vaydeand I'm still not all here.01:32
vaydemajorly cut up01:32
+perlDreamerWhy did you have surgery?01:32
vaydesevere apnea01:32
vaydestrangling 106 times per hour on average while I slept01:32
vaydemakes life.... unpleasant01:32
vaydeso my whole throat area has been reconstructed01:33
vaydeit's a mess01:33
+perlDreamergood thing we're doing this via IRC instead of Skype01:33
vaydeheh, yeah, my speaking voice aint much atm01:33
vaydeI think I sound like a muppet01:33
+perlDreamerHey, maybe Henson Studios is hiring01:34
vaydecould be01:34
vaydebut I'd be lost without a bash shell01:35
+perlDreamerLots of bashing goes on with the Muppets01:36
vayderofl  I stand corrected01:36
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+perlDreamerman, getting international shipping data from the USPS is hard01:38
+perlDreamerthey just vomited this huge XML chunk back at me01:38
+perlDreamermaybe Data::Dumper will help01:39
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David_hello i am trygin to upgrade 7.6.35 to 7.7.x and i am getting this error Adding account activation template to settings... DBD::mysql::st execute failed: Duplicate entry 'webguiAccountActivationTemplate' for key 1 at ../lib/WebGUI/SQL/ResultSet.pm line 137.03:59
David_anybody can help please03:59
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+perlDreamerdaviddelikat, daviddelikat1, I'm here early00:00
+perlDreamerdoes anyone know how much an ITransact merchant account costs?00:08
CIA-53WebGUI: translation * r12401 /translations/German/German/Asset_EventManagementSystem.pm: Updating German on translation server00:38
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elninohi all. isn't fedora the beta of suse?05:57
@preactionno, fedora is the beta of redhat05:57
elninooh. ok.  thanks.05:58
elninoall going well?05:58
elninoumm. I went to webgui.org, clicked on download, clicked on "webgui runtime environment" and was redirected to http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=51417&package_id=148913 and got a blank screen in FF3.  Bad link? or is sourceforge down?06:08
elninoie doens't work either.06:09
@preactionseems like sf is down06:10
elninook. thx.06:10
elninothere is a fedora distribution for wre, right?06:14
elninothat's all I wanted to know.06:14
@preactioni'm not sure, but the redhat one should work06:14
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elninog'nite all!06:21
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CIA-53webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r7b5b493 / (lib/WebGUI/Macro/NewMail.pm t/Macro/NewMail.t): Add tests for NewMail macro. Small refactoring for NewMail macro. - http://bit.ly/2R1h8w19:14
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+perlDreamerdaviddelikat2, daviddelikat3, I'm here for a bit04:16
+perlDreamerpatspam, I may be ready to join the Ubuntu throng04:17
@preactionoooh04:17
+perlDreamerI upgraded from FC10 to FC1104:18
+perlDreamerand it didn't do the whole upgrade04:18
+perlDreamerGRUB was completely broken04:18
@preactionweird04:18
+perlDreamerand I had to hand upgrade 500 packages04:18
@preactionouch04:18
+perlDreamerhow was your week in DC, preaction?04:19
@preactionhad a lot of fun, got a lot of work done04:19
@preactionexhausting but good04:19
@preactionwrote a whole new way to recover passwords for the Alumni group, hopefully I can see if it meets JT's muster04:20
@preactionit's a lot more intuitive than the one we have04:20
+perlDreamercool04:20
@preactionand cleaner, code-wise04:20
+perlDreamersounds like it might be good for 804:20
@preactioni'd hope for 7.9 if possible04:20
@preactioni've also been exploring Flex, and there are some really interesting things here04:21
+perlDreamersomeone volunteered to help write macro tests04:21
+perlDreamerFlex?04:21
+perlDreamerlike bison?04:21
+perlDreameryacc?04:21
@preactionFlex == Flash for programmers04:21
+perlDreamerSomeone just put out a Hulu viewer in HTML 504:21
+perlDreamerFlash could die04:21
+perlDreamerand it would be good04:22
@preactionnah, it won't04:22
@preactionwith AIR, flash moved to the desktop04:22
@preactionthey're working on a flash runtime for the iPhone04:22
@preactioni agree that flash for video is pass?, but flash for games and/or internet applications is coming up04:22
@preactiongames not like little minigames, but full MMOs and FPSs and RTS and etc...04:23
+perlDreameryou really think so?04:23
@preactionyep04:23
@preactionAIR works on linux, for example, even if the flash plugins do not04:24
@preactionimagine desktop apps that interact with WebGUI sites04:24
@preactionand a flash app for those who don't want to install the desktop app04:24
@preactionand i would really really like to know why Ant just does not work on my system...04:27
+perlDreamerI'd like to know why Flash doesn't work on my system04:28
@preactionbecause Adobe are jerks04:28
+perlDreamermy kids can't play the tweetsie train game anymore04:30
+perlDreamerthat is terrible04:30
+perlDreamervery odd04:46
+perlDreamerah ha!04:47
+perlDreamerthe secret to flash support under FC11 is to remove libflashsupport04:47
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@preactionthat's a little bit counter-intuitive ;)05:00
+perlDreameroh no it isn't05:01
+perlDreameroh yes it is05:01
+perlDreameroh no it isn't05:01
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elninohi!05:14
elninothis is beeen bugging me for a while, and I don't know if it's my system or not, search on cs JUST doesn't work.05:15
elninosorry, not cs, but a wiki05:15
elninoI have a wiki called blogs05:15
elninoand the search doesn't pick it up when I search blog or blogs05:15
elninodo I have to do a reindex of a search or something? or ???05:16
daviddelikat3well I just pushed the EMS sumbission system -- again06:22
daviddelikat3and it was SOME Bission06:22
daviddelikat3or was it SUB Mission06:23
daviddelikat3cant remember06:23
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+perlDreamerlet's pull and double check, just in case06:39
+perlDreamerdaviddelikat3, there are still dav::log calls in there...06:41
CIA-53webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r8568323 / lib/WebGUI/Workflow/Activity/CleanupEMSSubmissions.pm : Fix syntax errors. - http://bit.ly/1KYUdr06:48
+perlDreameralso, there were bad symlinks checked in06:57
+perlDreamerit's all cleaned up, and I'm rerunning the test suite to double check06:57
+perlDreamertest suite is clean07:07
CIA-53webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r736166e / t/Search.t : Use the right test with the right comment. - http://bit.ly/1PASrQ07:07
CIA-53webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.7 * r9178de0 / t/Search.t : Use the right test with the right comment. - http://bit.ly/1opLVl07:07
CIA-53webgui: Colin Kuskie master * rd8af803 / lib/WebGUI/Paginator.pm : Clarify POD for the setAlphabeticalKey method. - http://bit.ly/47z9XO08:11
CIA-53webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.7 * r1d9ec02 / (t/DatabaseLink.t t/lib/WebGUI/Test.pm): Test cleanup and tracking of Database Links. - http://bit.ly/2FRmxl08:43
CIA-53webgui: Colin Kuskie master * rdbf86bb / (t/DatabaseLink.t t/lib/WebGUI/Test.pm): Test cleanup and tracking of Database Links. - http://bit.ly/2zm8eV08:43
CIA-53webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r1c20f13 / (lib/WebGUI/DatabaseLink.pm t/Macro/SQL.t): 100% coverage on t/Macro/SQL.t. Refactor DatabaseLink. - http://bit.ly/277Lgq08:54
CIA-53webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.7 * r50474a5 / (lib/WebGUI/DatabaseLink.pm t/Macro/SQL.t): 100% coverage on t/Macro/SQL.t. Refactor DatabaseLink. - http://bit.ly/yid5l08:54
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SDuensinMorning.16:03
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+perlDreamergood morning, webgui folks!18:01
SDuensinUgh.  Not so loud.18:01
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@Haargmorning perlDreamer18:04
+perlDreamerhad any SQL cleanup epiphanies, Haarg?18:05
@Haargmy immediate thought about that was to have addToCleanup also accept sub references and add them to the cleanup code.  but that won't be ideal if we want to do SQL in a lot of places.18:06
@Haargthe other option is just to add a new sub for SQL cleanup18:08
SDuensinSQL cleanup?  Like no JSON in the DB?  :-P18:08
+perlDreamerthis is just for tests, SDuensin18:20
SDuensinHey, I gotta get my shots in when I can!18:20
+perlDreamerif we can remove every END block in all the tests, we can use a certain perl module to help us speed them up18:20
+perlDreamerHaarg, having addToCleanup accept anonymous subs would not only handle SQL issues, but all other cleanup type stuff as well18:27
@Haargyeah, that was my thought18:27
+perlDreameralthough I don't know how much more of that we're going to need18:27
+perlDreamerwhy wouldn't it work in lots of places?18:28
@Haargit would work, but if we need to run arbitrary sql in a lot of places it isn't ideal18:29
CIA-53webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r0873e7a / README : Remove file imported from UPS branch - http://bit.ly/ztt0F18:33
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+perlDreamermorning, BartJol19:03
+BartJolg'devening sir19:03
+perlDreamerdid you see we had a new person volunteer to start writing tests?19:06
+BartJolyes lrobinson right?19:07
+perlDreameryeah!19:07
+BartJolI know her from semthing...19:07
+perlDreamerthe email said, "Luke"19:08
+BartJoloh19:08
+perlDreamerbut perhaps you're thinking crobinson?19:08
+BartJolthen I'm totally wrong19:08
+BartJolperlDreamer: did you hear Joeri is daddy?19:11
+perlDreamerI did hear that19:11
+perlDreamerdoes the baby have a name?19:11
+BartJolalas, no first news19:11
+BartJolElsa Sophie19:11
+BartJolZeestraten (leonie's family name)19:11
+perlDreamerso she doesn't have Joeri's surname?19:12
+BartJolnope19:13
+BartJolbut, don't worry, you won't be able to pronounce that either19:13
+perlDreamerde Bruin is easy to pronounce19:13
dreamersgirl:)19:13
dreamersgirlTell him congratulations if you see him!19:13
+BartJolI will, not sure when, but he's online now19:15
+perlDreamermaybe we could all chip in and send Joeri one of these: http://www.thinkgeek.com/geek-kids/newborn-infant/c754/19:17
+BartJolmmm19:17
+BartJoldreamersgirl: Joeri sends his regards and thanks19:17
dreamersgirl:)19:18
dreamersgirlI like this one better:  http://www.thinkgeek.com/tshirts-apparel/kids/59cc/19:18
+BartJol now he's of for dinner19:18
dreamersgirlwhat is his handle?19:19
+BartJoler?19:19
+perlDreamerdapperedodo19:19
+BartJoleeeh, i thought lovehandle...19:20
dreamersgirlthat's what i thought.  he wasn't in channel, was he?  or am i losing my mind?19:22
+BartJolno he wasn't19:22
+perlDreamerno, he wasn't in here19:22
+BartJolhe was online, only for me19:22
+perlDreameryou are losing your mind, though19:22
+perlDreameronly 3 hour of sleep last night!19:22
* perlDreamer reminds dreamersgirl of the negative effects of lack of sleep on endocrine and hormonal functioning19:23
dreamersgirlfunny--topic of the day is mood disorders19:23
+BartJolit seems I'm just confused19:24
dreamersgirlno, BartJol.  I am.  And now I'm spreading confusion around.  Sorry.19:24
dreamersgirlI'm in class right now and the professor is discussing mood disorders--depression, bipolar disorder, etc.19:25
+BartJolnow, I'm getting confused, I thought I was confused, but it was only you, but now I'm getting confused, so yoiu are less confused?19:25
+BartJolis there a balance?19:25
dreamersgirlexactly19:25
+BartJolah19:25
+BartJoldidn't know that19:26
dreamersgirlmaybe i should pay more attention in class. that may help my confusion....19:27
+BartJolDO NOT FOCUS!19:27
+BartJoloh, sorry19:27
dreamersgirlsure you are19:28
+perlDreamerstupid tomcat is yowling through the house again19:28
dreamersgirlsorry--i kept him up late partying last night19:29
+BartJolwell, just try to explain to your teacher that a Dutch guy is bothering you19:29
+BartJolparties are good19:29
dreamersgirlit wasn't a fun party19:29
+perlDreamerIt was a paper-writing party19:29
dreamersgirlwell, maybe for the cat.  not for me.19:29
+BartJolit is dinner tim now19:30
+BartJolI should get some grub\19:30
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dreamersgirlAnd I should go to class.19:30
+BartJolok, later19:31
dreamersgirlEnjoy your grub!19:31
+BartJolthanks19:31
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CIA-53webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.7 * r4a638d3 / (docs/changelog/7.x.x.txt lib/WebGUI/Form/HTMLArea.pm): Help HTMLArea handle odd form names. Fixes bug #11209 - http://bit.ly/33spPm20:00
CIA-53webgui: Colin Kuskie master * rce84be0 / (docs/changelog/7.x.x.txt lib/WebGUI/Form/HTMLArea.pm): Help HTMLArea handle odd form names. Fixes bug #11209 - http://bit.ly/mWEJq20:00
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dreamersgirltheophylline20:14
+perlDreamergesundheit20:14
dreamersgirloops, sorry.  wrong window!20:14
dreamersgirlDanke20:14
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* perlDreamer is starting to want $session->url->yui to save some typing20:49
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@preactioni'm about to setup an ldap/ldaps server on smoke, is there any other service that the smoke tests need?21:02
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+perlDreamerthere are no LDAP tests yet21:06
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@preactionyeah, and we regressed. hence i'm making an ldap server on smoke to make ldap tests21:12
+perlDreamerwe regressed?  What happened?21:17
+perlDreameralso, there's a way to build a fake LDAP server for testing21:17
+perlDreamerIt's on CPAN21:17
@preactioneh, this is easier and fewer deps21:19
+perlDreameris smoke working again?21:19
@preactionit should be21:19
@preactioni think just my RSS hack isn't working right21:20
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+perlDreamerpreaction: all recent links on smoke.plainblack.com point to non-existant pages22:27
+perlDreameror is that the RSS hack you were talking about?22:27
@preactionno.. damnit22:28
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elninoany one have bugzilla, cvs and webgui on the same machine?22:37
@preactionthat doesn't sound like any fun at all22:37
elninono? I really want to use wre, but am tempted to opt out on it this time around. =( Don't want to mess a around to much.22:39
@preactioni was more thinking the bugzilla and cvs support22:39
@preactionis there a reason it's cvs and not svn or something more modern?22:39
elninooh, it may be svn.. hold on. I get them messed up.22:40
@preactionbugzilla has a modperl mode, iirc, so you can just make a bugzilla.modperl file in the WRE22:40
elninoyes. svn22:40
@preactionokay, then we have both svn and webgui running on plainblack.com22:40
@preactionsvn is running its own httpd on a different port, and modproxy is handling the reverse proxy22:41
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elninoI see I have some more investigation to do...22:46
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@preactionit's mostly apache configuration acrobatics22:49
@Haargour svn doesn't use a reverse proxy, it runs on a different IP22:55
elninobugzilla shouldn't have a problem using webgui's perl, right? just as long as it's in the path?22:55
elninoand the additional mod's it needs are installed.22:56
@Haargit should work fine with webgui's perl22:56
elninoso... svn gets it's own port and it's own apache/svnserve (I dont' know what is used yet), and bugzilla uses webgui's mysql and perl instanace.22:57
elninoright?22:58
elninosvn has it's own propritory db so nothing to do there.22:58
@Haargyou could do it in a number of ways, but you could run svn in either the modperl or modproxy servers22:58
+perlDreamerwhat does this mean: http://gist.github.com/23028623:23
+perlDreamermy i18n'ed modified template attachments JS wasn't working in IE7, so I ran it through jslint23:23
+perlDreamerand it spewed back that message23:24
@Haargi'm not sure about the wrapped in an if thing23:24
@Haargbut if you do a for loop like that on objects it sometimes gives you extra items that you wouldn't expect, such as methods23:24
+perlDreamerah, yes.23:25
+perlDreamerI remember that from Javascript, the Good Parts23:25
+perlDreamerit's a very small, slim book23:25
CIA-53webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.7 * rff0cfa0 / (4 files in 4 dirs): 23:28
CIA-53webgui: i18n the template attachments, fixes bug #1118623:28
CIA-53webgui: Also, rework some of the JS code according to jslint. - http://bit.ly/1i56JG23:28
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+perlDreamerOSCON is coming back to Portland23:39
+perlDreamerpack your bags!23:39
@preactionooh when?23:51
+perlDreamerJuly 19-2323:52
+perlDreamerI can probably offer a place to crash23:52
+perlDreamerbut it's a long haul in to the Convention Center23:52
+perlDreamerabout 53 minutes by lightrail23:52
dreamersgirlnot that you've timed it or anything...23:57
--- Day changed Tue Nov 10 2009
+perlDreameroh no00:02
+perlDreamerspeaking of timing, I have to go get some kids from the store00:02
+perlDreamerI like to get there early, so they're fresh00:02
+perlDreamerbe back in 34 minutes00:02
+perlDreamerwith a standard variance of 2.3 minutes00:03
dreamersgirli'll be off by then00:06
dreamersgirllater!00:06
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@preactionwhere should i put the info for connecting / using smoke's ldap server?00:26
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@preactionwe're supposed to use Scope::Guard for cleanup in tests now, right?00:44
@preactionlike if i need to delete an ldap link?00:44
@Haargthat's probably the best way, yes00:45
@preactioneasiest way to prove we have a shitty API: Write a test for it...00:59
+perlDreamerpreaction, I added a cleanup mode for DatabaseLink's yesterday.01:06
+perlDreamerLDAPLinks should work the same way01:06
+perlDreamerwith a test to prevent the deletion of the default one01:06
+perlDreamer++trex01:30
@preactionindeed01:31
+perlDreamercan you grab that as part of your testing work?01:34
+perlDreameralso, here's irony.  I'm installing IE8 to try and debug some javascript01:34
vaydewow, that's like sacrificing a goat for animal rights01:39
vaydeyou know about firebug dontcha pd?01:40
+perlDreamerI do, but of course, the JS works in FF01:42
+perlDreamerand it's not throwing any errors in IE01:42
+perlDreamerit's just not working01:42
vaydeyeah, catch 22 there.  no good debug tools in IE01:43
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@preactionactually IE 8 has a pretty nice debugger01:46
vaydeyeah?01:46
vaydethat's nice to hear01:46
vaydehow you been preaction?01:46
@preactionsame old, working on making webgui better01:53
@preactiontrying to stem the tide of shoddy fixes and regressions with my temporary minion, Colin01:53
@preactionyourself?01:53
+perlDreamerthat's short term, not temporary01:56
vaydeoh, resident barbarian horde in corporate america01:56
vaydeI loot, pillage and burn with appalling regularity01:56
@preactionwhat does one even call a minion without a super villian?01:57
@preactioni mean, antagonist01:57
vaydelonely?01:58
+perlDreamerwe have a villian01:58
+perlDreamerbut we do not often speak his name01:58
+perlDreamerHe is the Regressor01:58
+perlDreamerevil perpretator of multiple mistakes01:59
vaydeheh.  yeah, I can imagine that gets to be more and more of a threat every day01:59
+perlDreamerspeaking of which, preaction, any clue as to why the DataTable doesn't output the DataTable inside a row and table cell?02:00
+perlDreameris that on purpose for some reason?02:00
@preactionhuh?02:00
@preactionyou mean a nested table?02:01
+perlDreamerit's making <table><table id="DataTable_container> rows and columns </table></table>02:01
@preactionthat's... weird02:01
+perlDreamerya02:01
+perlDreamerI'm looking for anything that will help with this DataTable bug that JT found02:02
+perlDreamerit's not throwing any errors or warnings02:02
+perlDreamerfor the data table, it just draws an empty header cell02:02
+perlDreamerwith no label02:02
+perlDreamerand no content or anything underneath it02:03
+perlDreameralso, no buttons for help, add or delete02:03
+perlDreamervery strange02:03
@preactionis there a stable release tomorrow?02:04
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+perlDreamerpreaction, I've made so many releases in last 10 days I don't remember who is supposed to be next02:07
+perlDreamerI'll check02:07
+perlDreameryeah, it's stable tomorrow02:08
+perlDreamerunless I've catatrosphically mucked something else up and have to do more off-time releases02:08
CIA-53webgui: Doug Bell webgui-7.7 * r88a4327 / (lib/WebGUI/Auth/LDAP.pm t/Auth/LDAP.t): fixed #11218: LDAPS does not create users automatically - http://bit.ly/tbUj902:10
CIA-53webgui: Doug Bell webgui-7.7 * r26a212f / docs/changelog/7.x.x.txt : add changelog - http://bit.ly/3xwdsi02:10
CIA-53webgui: Doug Bell master * rd5c2275 / docs/upgrades/upgrade_7.8.4-7.8.5.pl : make the upgrade shut up - http://bit.ly/3gkSyL02:10
CIA-53webgui: Doug Bell master * rec30672 / (3 files in 3 dirs): fixed #11218: LDAPS does not create users automatically - http://bit.ly/tdIhi02:10
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CIA-53wrebuild: Colin Kuskie master * r9e0f791 / wre/docs/install.txt : Add a note about SELinux, and how it won't work with the WRE. Fixes bug #10703 - http://bit.ly/17JSeQ02:11
CIA-53wrebuild: Colin Kuskie master * r3f0fc60 / (7 files in 4 dirs): Merge branch 'master' of git@github.com:plainblack/wrebuild - http://bit.ly/42EYlI02:11
+perlDreamerSynQ: I made a documentation change to the WRE, install.txt.02:11
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+perlDreamerson of a gun02:21
+perlDreamerthat did it!02:21
+perlDreamerbut I may have found a codeEditor bug, too02:21
+perlDreamercode-editor.js, line 289 (this._getSelection is null)02:22
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@preactionyeah, that's been a consistent problem02:29
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+perlDreamershould we do an existance check on that key before calling methods through it?02:34
+perlDreameroh, adding the TR and TD tags to the table fixed the DataTable in IE802:35
+perlDreamernow checking IE702:35
+perlDreamerand then I'm going to check Susan's default time zone bug02:35
+perlDreamerand then I'm going to fix dinner02:35
+perlDreamerwhich does not involve bugs02:38
CIA-53webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r9d14e8b / (3 files in 3 dirs): 02:50
CIA-53webgui: Fix rendering of initial DataTable in IE7, IE8. Fixes bug #11205.02:50
CIA-53webgui: Added TR, TD tags to table containing the DataTable. Also,02:50
CIA-53webgui: ran dataTable.js through jslint and fixed many issues. - http://bit.ly/284pru02:50
CIA-53webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.7 * rab6811e / (3 files in 3 dirs): 02:50
CIA-53webgui: Fix rendering of initial DataTable in IE7, IE8. Fixes bug #11205.02:50
CIA-53webgui: Added TR, TD tags to table containing the DataTable. Also,02:50
CIA-53webgui: ran dataTable.js through jslint and fixed many issues. - http://bit.ly/1V7FVU02:50
+perlDreamerpreaction, $session->setting will automatically restore itself at the end of the test02:51
+perlDreamerno need to clean it up02:51
@preactioni'm not cleaning it up, i'm making sure it doesn't interfere with the next test02:56
@preaction(and that final test, the next test is unwritten)02:56
+perlDreamerI see03:04
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SquOnkHello everyone15:25
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ryuu_rohi guys15:26
ryuu_roanybody an idea why in the extras yui dir the beta version of element is included?15:26
ryuu_roin 7.7.25 that is15:27
ryuu_roand 7.7.21 also has the beta included15:28
ryuu_roas far as i remember this used to be a stable version15:28
+bartjolah, memory, the illusionist of the mind15:41
ryuu_rook Bart, time to answer my question15:42
+bartjolyou should go now15:42
ryuu_rothanks15:42
ryuu_ro:)15:42
+bartjolbut, sorry, I don't15:42
+bartjolknow15:42
ryuu_rodev list it is15:43
+bartjolisn't there anything in the changelog?15:43
SquOnkAny news on the SynContent encoding bug?15:43
+bartjolnot afaik15:43
ryuu_rowell the encoding is not working for me15:44
ryuu_royet15:44
SquOnkMeh15:45
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+perlDreamerbartjol, I only have a little time before I need to take kids to school17:44
+perlDreamerNext RFE day is next monday17:44
+bartjolyes17:44
+perlDreamerlet's work on some of the international RFEs together17:44
+perlDreameryou game?17:44
+bartjolooh, well, I suppose17:45
+perlDreamerI'm thinking about the choice of language one17:45
+perlDreamerand also Martien's one for copying language into the core17:45
+bartjolso the base site language?17:45
+perlDreameryes17:45
+bartjolyes there is some overlap in those17:45
+bartjolI believe17:45
+perlDreamerI'm not so sure17:45
+perlDreamerin any case, we should be able to bust them out quickly17:46
+perlDreameralso, how 'bout them tests?17:46
+perlDreamergotta scoot17:46
+bartjolhaven been able to look at that17:46
+bartjolgotta reserve some time for it this week17:47
daviddelikat3I **** browser compatibility17:54
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+bartjolI like compatibility, but dtest incompatability :P17:55
daviddelikat3hey perlDreamer I figured out how I should have retrieved my files last saturday17:55
daviddelikat3browser compatibility is like military inteligence17:55
daviddelikat3it looks like it but it isnt17:55
daviddelikat3that is compatible17:56
+bartjol:)17:59
+perlDreamerwhat's the magic invocation, daviddelikat3?18:00
daviddelikat3well I was trying to checkout the old versions of the files18:00
daviddelikat3but what I didn't do was make a branch first18:00
daviddelikat3you can't checkout out of a commit18:00
daviddelikat3but you can make a branch at any commit point18:00
daviddelikat3and checkout of the brance18:01
daviddelikat3branch18:01
daviddelikat3its actually very cool18:01
+perlDreamernice18:01
daviddelikat3and would have got me back on track very quickly18:01
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daviddelikat3but I didn't really understand branches18:01
daviddelikat3now I do18:01
daviddelikat3now I'll be using them much more18:02
+perlDreamerbranches are cool18:02
daviddelikat3I hope  can delete branches...18:02
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daviddelikat3otherwise our tree is going to be pretty crowded18:03
+perlDreamergit branch -d18:03
+perlDreamergit branch -D18:03
+perlDreamereither way18:03
daviddelikat3yeah18:03
daviddelikat3I've been mostly reading about creating them using checkout18:03
daviddelikat3I'll have to look at branch next18:03
daviddelikat3but first I have to check off some items from my TODO list18:04
daviddelikat3can i export WG users in a package?18:05
+perlDreamerno18:05
daviddelikat3bummer18:05
+perlDreamerbut...18:05
+perlDreameryou can build a SQL Report that produces a file that userImport.pl will take18:06
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daviddelikat3I just want to have some users that I can import to my dev system18:06
daviddelikat3it would be really cool if 'wgd reset' cold run a few scripts when it does a dev reset18:07
+perlDreamer--util18:07
+perlDreameryou need to upgrade your wgd :)18:07
daviddelikat3I guess so18:08
+perlDreamerI keep a file like this laying around: http://gist.github.com/23098818:08
daviddelikat3I'm falling behind on everything18:08
+perlDreamerso that I can import a bunch of users quickly18:08
daviddelikat3thanks18:09
daviddelikat3I'll just keep that one18:09
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+perlDreamerHaarg: good morning18:27
+perlDreamerI have a User question for you18:27
+perlDreamerwhen users are created, do they get user profile defaults from Visitor?18:27
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+perlDreamerHaaarg, did you see my earlier question about users and profile field defaults?18:44
@Haaargnope18:44
+perlDreamerwhen users are created, do they get user profile defaults from Visitor?18:44
+perlDreamernote, this is a trick question18:45
@Haaargi know they did at one point, don't know if that has changed18:45
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+perlDreamerif a user is created by create, it gets defaults from the user profile field18:46
+perlDreamerbut if a user is created via Operation/User, it gets defaults from Visitor18:46
@Haaargheh18:46
@Haaargfun18:46
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@preactionif there are a bunch of things that are shared between a couple objects, should I create a role or a base-class to inherit them from?19:26
@preactiona bunch means 2 or 3 methods19:26
+perlDreamerlike what kinds of methods?19:27
@preactiona clone method that creates a new object by serializing and deserializing19:27
@preactiona constructor that translates one object into another19:27
+perlDreamerI thought that Clone provided one of those19:28
+perlDreamerbut I think it's worth having a base class for19:28
+perlDreameralthough, if we ever start using Class::DBI or Moose, we shouldn't need it anymore19:28
@preactionthat's one downside, another is the added complexity19:29
@preactionit's the FormBuilder, there's already some weird inheritance going on there with the Roles19:29
+perlDreamerif that's true, maybe it wants to fallback to being class based?19:29
@preactionno, the three roles that are there should be there19:30
@preactionotherwise it would be copy/paste code19:30
@preactionthis other stuff isn't quite copy/paste. some identifiers need to be changed between the two19:31
+perlDreamerI don't know the details of what you're doing, but class based inheritance isn't copy/paste19:31
wgGuest65\nick daviddelikat_at_work19:34
+perlDreamerwrong slash, wgGuest6519:34
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daviddelikat_at_i guess theres a limit to the length of a nick...19:34
+perlDreamerreading through ProfileField, I'm reminded of a line from the Tim Burton Batman movie19:38
+perlDreamerThis code needs an enema19:38
elninoew19:52
+perlDreamersorry19:52
+perlDreamerpotty talk in channel19:52
* perlDreamer goes to the bathroom to wash out his keyboard with soap19:52
CIA-53webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.7 * r0818f12 / (5 files in 4 dirs): Users always get default profile field values from the profile field. Fixes bug #11215 - http://bit.ly/3A1AtS20:01
CIA-53webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r858c148 / (5 files in 4 dirs): Users always get default profile field values from the profile field. Fixes bug #11215 - http://bit.ly/3nJkLl20:01
CIA-53webgui: Doug Bell formbuilder * rcef7c9c / lib/WebGUI/FormBuilder.pm : added clone to FormBuilder - http://bit.ly/19pWf520:01
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CIA-53webgui: Doug Bell webgui-7.7 * r3d4175a / (docs/changelog/7.x.x.txt lib/WebGUI/Asset/Wobject/Map.pm): fixed #11220: Map asset badly broken - http://bit.ly/16PG9720:09
+perlDreamerpreaction++20:09
+perlDreamerthat was fast20:09
+perlDreamerfeel up to a few other bugs, perhaps?20:09
CIA-53webgui: Doug Bell master * ra182524 / (docs/changelog/7.x.x.txt lib/WebGUI/Asset/Wobject/Map.pm): fixed #11220: Map asset badly broken - http://bit.ly/2XU1d20:10
@preactioni'm gonna try to get the code editor bug at least20:11
+perlDreamerI think i can handle the rest20:11
+perlDreamerafter I go to the gym20:11
+perlDreamerI'd also appreciate your thoughts on my proposed fix for the cached Navigation bug20:11
+perlDreamerwhich are on the dev forum20:12
@preactionok20:12
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@preactionis it really too much to ask for little icons next to menu items?21:03
@preactionor using icons with no labels and no text, no need to i18n?21:03
@preactionor am i crazy that icons improve usability21:04
@preactionand are everywhere in every single computer program when they shouldn't be?21:04
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+perlDreamerping22:47
+perlDreamergrrr22:48
+perlDreamergithub is down22:48
SquOnkWhat's the proper way to redirect to the home page on logout?22:57
+perlDreamercurrrenly, WebGUI just returns you to the current page22:57
+perlDreamerif your plugin is general purpose, it should do that as well22:58
SquOnkperlDreamer: So I'd need to use the runOnLogout thing in the config file.22:58
+perlDreamerif your plugin isn't, then just set a redirect in $session->http22:58
+perlDreamerrunOnLogout is a script22:58
+perlDreameror a Workflow22:58
SquOnkperlDreamer: I know22:58
+perlDreamerthat script won't allow you to change the landing page after a logout operation22:58
SquOnkperlDreamer: I want a general way to redirect people to the home page when they logout, wherever they might be on the page.22:59
SquOnkperlDreamer: I see22:59
+perlDreamerI'd subclass sub logout, and do the redirect in there23:00
+perlDreamerpreaction, in t/Auth/LDAP.t, it says to always test LDAPS.  why is that?23:25
@preactionbecause if LDAPS works, so will LDAP23:27
+perlDreamerokay23:28
@preactioni mean, to be thorough we could do both, and just swapping ldap:// for ldaps:// will work, but i didn't want to create the test programmatically23:28
+perlDreamerI'm looking at Trex's patches, and thinking about tests23:28
+perlDreamerI just want to be sure I use smoke's LDAP server the right way23:28
@preactionlaziness mostly, well, more like "i'm already 2 weeks behind and this is not one of the tasks I was assigned, but the buck has to stop somewhere, so it stops with me"23:28
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+perlDreamerpreaction, I have a hard time ascribing the word laziness to you01:58
+perlDreamerbrowser caching sucks02:05
+perlDreamerbut it doesn't suck as much as server side caching02:05
+perlDreameror, content last modified fields02:05
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SquOnkperlDreamer: Are you there?02:51
@preactionhe just left, he'll be back a little later02:52
SquOnkOk02:52
+perlDreamerquick question03:06
+perlDreamerhave to leave in 503:06
+perlDreamerwhat's up SquOnk?03:06
+perlDreamerno change in status on the encoding bugs03:06
SquOnkperlDreamer: It's not about that03:07
+perlDreamerokay, Kuskie boys are off to piano lessons03:11
+perlDreamerbe back on about 8:30 pm PST for stable release03:11
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+perlDreamerthe piano teacher has been holding out on me.  She was wireless!04:17
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vaydepreaction?  you around?05:20
@preactiontemporarily, sup05:20
vaydejust a fyi05:20
vaydethe testEnvironment.pl in the wG source install05:20
vaydeit seems to be missing dependencies05:20
vaydefor Template::Toolkit and SOAP::Lite05:20
+perlDreamerthose are all optional05:21
+perlDreameras long as you have your config file setup the correct way05:21
+perlDreamerlike not using the TT plugin, or the deprecated WSClient asset05:21
vaydeahh, well, the basic conf barfed05:21
@preactionyeah, because TT is included with the WRE05:21
@preactionthat's a bug05:21
vaydeshouldn't the conf given work with the modules listed in the env test?05:22
+perlDreamerhow is that a bug?05:22
@preactionit's actually because WebGUI preloads WebGUI::Asset::Template::TemplateToolkit05:22
@preactionand since it can't preload it without having TT installed, it explodes05:22
+perlDreamerwe're going to use TT anyway, I guess05:22
vaydewell, i just figure at least the default conf aught to work with the environment that passes the test05:23
@preactioni'd say disable the TT parser. i don't see why webgui is preloading everything it can get its grubby hands on05:23
@preactionbut i don't know what the policy is here and i'm not setting any more policy today05:24
+perlDreamerto disable it, we'd have to ship a default preload.exclude05:24
@preactioni'm going to get brown sugar so i can make cookies05:24
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vaydeso, would you like that filed as a bug?  or just take it as a fyi?05:26
+perlDreamerfile it05:28
vaydekk, next question, where's the bugtracker these days05:28
+perlDreameryou can't tell one bug from another without a helpdek ticket05:28
+perlDreamerwww.webgui.org/bugs05:28
vayde(sorry, it's been a while)05:28
vaydethanks05:28
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+perlDreamerpreaction, any pending commits?06:50
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@preactionperlDreamer: nope, go head07:04
elninog'nite all.07:05
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+perlDreamerhow are the cookies?07:05
@preactionlook much better than last time, where i had to substitute the brown sugar07:06
@preactionstill gotta wait for cooldown to make the crucial test07:06
* perlDreamer predicts UTF8 problems in the next WRE07:09
+perlDreamereither that, or Fedora just lost a customer07:09
@preactionand now you're having charset problems too?07:11
@preactionsheesh07:11
+perlDreameryup07:11
+perlDreamerthere are actually two charset tests in the suite07:11
+perlDreamerand the literal utf8 one is failing07:11
+perlDreamerI'm hoping it's fedora, and not core perl changes07:11
@preactionoh yeah, the cookies are excellent as always07:23
+perlDreamerwhat kind are they?07:38
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CIA-53webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.7 * rb3576ff / docs/create.sql : Preparing for 7.7.26 release - http://bit.ly/LUj4c07:43
+perlDreameroh, that rarest of upgrades with no db manipulation07:50
+perlDreamerand we're out08:15
+perlDreamersee y'all tomorrow08:15
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slickwaremorning all 16:58
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+patspamHaarg: wgdev is in the bazaar yeah?17:51
@Haargyes17:52
@Haarghttp://www.webgui.org/bazaar/wgdev17:52
+patspamta17:52
+patspamsucks that there's no bazaar search17:52
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+BartJolpatspam: there seems no file to be attached to your bazaar post, or am I just impatient?17:54
+patspamheh yeah sorry, just uploading it now17:54
+BartJol:)17:54
+BartJolnice sceenshot though17:55
+patspamuploaded now17:56
+BartJolgot it, gonna check it out18:00
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David_good morning i m having the hardest time trying to fix a problem i am getting a communication error on my log and i think it has something to do with my host file can anybody tell me what needs to go there. i have the 127.0.0.1 localhost localhost.localdomain and on a second line i have the ip of server www.mydomain.com is this correct?19:02
+BartJolthat doesn't sound wrong19:02
+BartJolwe mostly add the domain without the www19:02
+BartJolDavid_ what is the error?19:05
David_ERROR - spectre.conf - POE::Kernel::_dispatch_event[1056] - CRON: Response for job19:05
+BartJolah19:05
+BartJolspectre connects from the "outside"19:06
+BartJolwhat is the spectre ip>19:06
+BartJol?19:06
David_no both in same box19:06
+BartJolmaybe you should change it to your external IP19:06
+BartJoldefault is 127.0.0.1 I believe19:06
David_yes ok19:07
David_let me try. because also i am trying to upload sompe wgpkg and i get nothing, the pages are not imported and i don't get errors on webgui.log19:07
+BartJolnot sure on which log level those errors are19:08
+BartJolyou can try altering your log level19:08
+BartJolbut 1 thing at a time19:08
David_yes19:09
David_working on changing spectre.conf to external ip19:09
+BartJolyou need to restart modpelr and spectre19:10
+BartJoland change it in the webgui and spectre conf19:10
David_ok19:11
+BartJolin the webgui conf you can just add it I believe19:11
+BartJolnot sure about that though, I would have to check that19:12
+BartJoldoes it help?19:15
David_restarting19:15
+BartJolsorry for pushing but I have a very important beer drinking appointment :P19:16
David_take me with you lol19:16
+BartJolyou know Delft?19:17
David_no19:17
+BartJolhttp://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=brabantse+turfmarkt+67,+delft&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=31.839416,79.013672&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Brabantse+Turfmarkt+67,+2611+Delft,+South+Holland,+The+Netherlands&ll=52.010184,4.360531&spn=0.001509,0.004823&z=1819:18
David_im on the states19:18
+BartJolit's just an 8 hour flight19:19
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+BartJolbut how are the errors doing?19:19
David_the communications errors went away thanks19:20
+BartJolok19:20
David_now to figure out why i can't import packages19:20
+BartJolstill can't?19:20
David_no19:20
David_and no errors on logs19:20
+BartJolok19:20
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+perlDreamergood morning WebGUI folks19:20
@Haargmorning19:20
David_morning 19:21
+BartJolyou can try to set ypour log level to debug temporarily(!!)19:21
+BartJolin log.conf19:21
+perlDreamerHaarg, do you have 15 minutes to talk about multiple languages in the core?19:21
* BartJol wistles and looks up19:21
@Haargsure19:22
+perlDreamerI see a couple of problems with the idea19:22
+perlDreamer1) we run the risk of people making changes to the git copy of the i18n19:22
+perlDreamer2) i18n could also fork between the stable and beta branches19:22
+perlDreamerI think we can solve (1) by just saying the the svn version is the canonical version, and that it gets overwritten at release19:23
+perlDreamerI haven't thought of how to handle (2) yet.19:23
+BartJolDavid_ I leave you in the hands of the rest of these good people19:23
David_thanks a lot for the help19:23
+BartJolnp19:23
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@Haargif we wanted to have multiple languages in core, it seems like it would make the most sense to just have the core copy be authoritative and get rid of the separate repo19:24
+perlDreamerso we'd pull it out of i18n.webgui.org and the SVN repo19:25
+perlDreamerand the only way to edit it would be via commandline19:25
@Haargwell, we'd need to make adjustments to the translation server, but that needs to happen anyway19:26
+perlDreamerand in the changes that you'd like to make to the translation server, is it supposed to handle i18n in multiple branches?19:29
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David_does anybody know any reasons why wouldn't i be able to import wgpkg from same version into my current installation, no errors anywhere19:41
+perlDreamerif the asset exists in another area, it would look like that it didn't do anything19:41
+perlDreamerbut it would be imported/updated in it's current spot19:41
+perlDreamerwe need some more details to know exactly what's going on to help you, David_19:42
David_ok i have a separete server in which development is done before taking it to live, they export the content as wgpkg files19:42
David_both boxes are on same webgui version19:43
David_so im trying to imported them to my live box, content doesn't exist on live box19:44
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+perlDreamerwhat kind of content are you trying to import?  Have you tried to import this package on a demo server?19:45
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David_its just page layout with links19:47
David_simple content19:47
+perlDreamerand when you import the package, it doesn't show up in the asset manager, there are no new version tags created (checking all lists of version tags in the Admin Console) and there are no error messages in the webgui log, or the apache error log.19:48
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David_no erros on webgui.log even when i change to debug19:49
David_i am  trying to imported them to the same source machine19:49
David_just to get the correct steps to export you go to metadata and say yes to make a package and make tis asset exportable?19:52
David_nothing i can't even on same box20:01
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+perlDreamerwell, again, if you import a package on a box, where an asset exists with the same assetId, it will try to update that asset20:08
+perlDreamerthe only way to tell for sure what happened is to check the version tags20:08
+perlDreamermake sure that a new version tag was created, and maybe committed, recently20:09
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SquOnkGreetings20:35
+perlDreamerSquOnk, greetings20:35
SquOnk7.7.26 already made it into Debian ;-)20:36
+perlDreamerthat was fast20:36
+perlDreamerbarring any more catastrophes, the next 7.7 will be in two weeks20:36
SquOnkperlDreamer: Good.20:36
SquOnkperlDreamer: When is 7.8 due to be declared stable?20:37
+perlDreamerfeature freeze is next week20:37
+perlDreamerwhen we get all fixable bugs closed, then it goes stable20:37
SquOnkperlDreamer: The Debian Freeze is expected for december/january and it would be nice if it were stable by then.20:37
+perlDreamerwe'll do the best we can, but can't make promises20:38
SquOnkperlDreamer: I know20:38
* perlDreamer heads out for a run20:41
+perlDreamerSquOnk, you may find this interesting: http://www.webgui.org/rfe/request-for-enhancement/1121220:42
SquOnkperlDreamer: Hm. Spanish could fit there too20:54
SquOnkperlDreamer: FWIW, I'm aware of the new messages in the shipping modules, I've just not done the research on them21:01
SquOnkperlDreamer: (We're currently on the 8th week of the term. I'm grading 40 mid-terms today, will have to grade 25 mid-terms tomorrow, plus 12 programming projects... everything before friday)21:01
SquOnkperlDreamer: It's a good thing I can use 'prove' to grade the programming projects ;-)21:02
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dionakdoes anyone know if you can use custom form controls with Thingy?21:28
@Haargpretty certain you can21:32
dionaki noticed a form control must have isDynamicCompatible set to true to turn up in the list of field types21:36
dionaksweet. it works. :)21:37
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dionakcan someone help me with a form control issue? i copied checklist.pm and made some mods. it's not saving the data in a Thing, as expected.22:49
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+perlDreamersure, dionak.  What kind of mods did you make?22:50
dionaklet me get my code up on pastebin22:51
dionakit'll make this easier22:51
dionakhere we go22:53
dionakhttp://webgui.pastebin.com/m3916c43f22:53
dionaki'm trying to display a list of markets in a Thing so I can create a relation, hence the checklist.pm usage22:54
+perlDreamerIt should probably inherit from Form::List instead of Form::Control, but I'm still reading22:54
dionakk22:55
+perlDreamerthe generated HTML all looks okay, it's just not saving more than 1 checkbox at a time?22:56
dionakit's not saving any values22:57
preactionwhy not inherit from CheckList and inside new() have it set the options you want?22:57
dionakinheriting from List makes a lot of sense22:57
+perlDreamerpreaction's idea is even better22:57
preactionthen you don't have to copy/paste any code at all ;)22:57
dionaklove the idea. looking..22:58
preactionI should write a blog post about that22:58
preactionwe do it a lot in our client work, form controls that pull from custom tables22:58
dionakyes, that would make a great blog post22:59
dionakare you thinking of overloading definition()?22:59
dionakthere's not a new()23:00
+perlDreamerhe may mean toHtml23:00
+perlDreamerthe way that Form/TimeZone does it23:00
preactionno i mean new23:00
dionakcan you show me an example?23:00
+perlDreamerwhy would you do it there, vs toHtml ?23:00
+perlDreamereverybody calls toHtml23:00
preactionsub new { my ( $class, $session, @args ) = @_; my $self = $class->SUPER::new( $session, @args ); # Now set your options here; return $self }23:01
preactioneveryone calls new too23:01
preactionso after you get a $self, do $self->set({ options => \%myoptions });23:02
preactionyou'll have to get %myoptions, of course (and Tie::IxHash it if you want ordered options)23:02
dionakinteresting. k, i have the code to get the options already23:03
+perlDreamereverybody does call new, too, but all of our core code overrides toHtml23:03
+perlDreamerI hate having bad example code in the core23:03
preactionthe idea is that you want the options set as soon as possible, in case it's not going to call toHtml, but instead calls "getValue"23:03
preactiontoHtml is the right thing to do when overriding how the form control looks23:03
preactionbut if you're talking the Form::Country, then it should be overriding new23:04
dionakis there any example in the codebase where new is being overridden?23:05
preactionlet me pastebin one, just a sec23:05
preactionhttp://gist.github.com/23229823:09
dionakthat helps a lot. thanks preaction23:10
dionakwould setting the selected values be a concern for me here? or is that handled somewhere else?23:11
preactionthat would be handled by the superclass's toHtml method23:11
preaction(which is the beauty of this method)23:11
dionakok23:11
preactionalso getValue handled by the superclass23:11
dionakok, so i really only need to set the options23:12
preactionyup23:12
dionakgreat. thanks guys23:12
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dionakwoohoo! haha...it works23:17
+perlDreamerI hope he was able to work out his package problem...23:17
+perlDreamerSquOnk, I agree about Spanish being a good candidate, especially if it's maintained regularly23:20
+perlDreamerI would hate to see the Arabic Incident repeated on other languages23:20
preactionif we could get spanish, dutch, and german all included, that'd be perfect23:21
+perlDreameryeah, I still don't have a solution for issues I brought up earlier though23:21
preactionreleasing with un-i18ned text?23:21
+perlDreamerno23:22
+perlDreamerwith languages in two places (SVN and GIT), which one is canonical23:22
+perlDreamerand, with two branches, how is that handled?23:22
+perlDreamerif it's in the core, someone could file a bug against a translation23:22
preactioni'd say the i18n.webgui.org is canonical23:22
preactionand we'd have to put the translators on the spot for bugs filed against their translations23:23
preactionor tell the bug reporter that they can fix it themselves if they want, via i18n.webgui.org23:23
+perlDreamerso how about stable vs beta translations?23:23
preactionif we include the beta translation w/ stable, that should be fine, no?23:24
preactionbut yeah, that's a slightly bigger issue23:24
+perlDreameri18n server always tracks beta23:24
+perlDreamerwhich means in some cases, stable i18n is removed23:24
+perlDreamerit's more like we need multiple branches for i18n, and allow the server to port changes between them, as requested by the translators.23:27
@Haargis there a reason to not just move the translations into core?23:29
+perlDreamerdownload size23:29
+perlDreamertranslation server doesn't work with git yet23:29
+perlDreamerno way to track multiple branches (stable/beta)23:30
+perlDreamerthose aren't reasons not to do it23:30
+perlDreamerthose are questions that need answers/solutions23:30
+perlDreamereven if the answers are:23:32
+perlDreamerdownload size doesn't matter23:32
+perlDreamercan't use core languages with the translation server23:32
+perlDreamerwe only track beta on the translation server23:32
+perlDreamerthose are fine, as long as they're understood by us and all the translators23:32
+perlDreamerThe EU tax driver uses SOAP::List, and it wasn't ever added to testEnvironment.pl23:43
+perlDreamerSOAP::Lite23:43
@Haargit shouldn't23:44
@Haargit isn't used in the code anywhere23:44
+perlDreamerIt's used in the EU tax driver23:44
+perlDreamerit's new23:44
@Haarg'use SOAP::Lite' is the only refernce23:45
@Haarg*reference23:45
@Haargit isn't needed23:45
+perlDreamerand the test runs okay without it23:45
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CIA-49webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.7 * r053fe47 / (3 files in 2 dirs): Fix rendering treeview rendering issues with debug and minimized JS. - http://bit.ly/F3cRD23:53
CIA-49webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.7 * ra0d2c23 / (3 files in 3 dirs): 23:53
CIA-49webgui: Fix module use issues. Fixes bug#1122223:53
CIA-49webgui: Remove bad use line from TaxDriver/EU.pm23:53
CIA-49webgui: Add line for TT2 in testEnvironment.pl - http://bit.ly/48XH6I23:53
SquOnkThat means SOAP::Lite is not needed?23:54
+perlDreamerright23:54
* SquOnk takes note that dependencies need to be re-checked for the next release23:58
+perlDreamerwe added one for Template::Toolkit 2.2023:59
+perlDreamerand removed a use line for SOAP::Lite, which used to be required, and then wasn't, and then was accidently required but not actually needed, and is now fixed23:59
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+perlDreamerwhich I guess brings up a point00:00
SquOnkGood00:00
+perlDreamerHTML::Template::Expr are marked as optional, but since those plugins are loaded by the default config, they really aren't optional00:00
+perlDreamerTemplate::Toolkit is/should be the same way00:01
* SquOnk working out tomorrow's class exercises00:01
* perlDreamer recommends, squats, pushups, situps and burpees00:01
@Haargthe default config doesn't include Expr00:01
+perlDreamergood point00:02
SquOnkperlDreamer: Well, they tend to do that when Prolog's involved :-)00:02
+perlDreamerbut preload.perl will load them anyway00:02
preactionright, but they're preloaded anyway00:02
+perlDreamermaybe that's the problem there00:02
SquOnkI'm doing 8-queens, then MxN-queens, then SEND + MORE = MONEY...00:02
SquOnk...then Hanoi Towers, then Antwerpen Towers...00:02
SquOnk...and if time permits, I'll do some generate-fail-collect examples00:03
SquOnkI came up with an evil "initial assignment" for them.00:03
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CIA-49webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r727348a / (3 files in 3 dirs): 00:17
CIA-49webgui: Fix module use issues. Fixes bug#1122200:17
CIA-49webgui: Remove bad use line from TaxDriver/EU.pm00:17
CIA-49webgui: Add line for TT2 in testEnvironment.pl - http://bit.ly/1LiFQ500:17
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SquOnkIs there a way to make users unable AT ALL to access their profiles (even if they knew the URL and typed it by hand)?00:28
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xdangerhmm.. I'm doing source install (just for fun to test plebgui) and I've noticed that Net::Subnets is missing from CPAN. Is there some place that I could get it from?02:10
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xdangerOh, found a webgui forum post about it02:11
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daviddelikatthere seems to be a problem with hover help03:26
daviddelikatit never hides a piece of hover text03:27
@preactionwhat problem seems to be the officer?03:27
daviddelikatit just keeps on piling them up on top of each other03:27
@preactionwhat version? probably a good idea to posts a bugs about it03:27
daviddelikatI'm in the bleading edge...03:27
daviddelikatit just showed up recently03:28
daviddelikatI was wondering if anybody is working in that area03:28
daviddelikator perhaps I have broken it myself03:29
@preactioneven if they are, better an extra bug than something that goes unnoticed03:29
+perlDreamerwhere is the hoverhelp in question?03:31
+perlDreameroh, and here's another bug03:31
daviddelikatits on my dev machine03:31
daviddelikathttp://delikat.homeip.net:8080/03:31
+perlDreamerI make a bad straight-man, daviddelikat...03:31
+perlDreamerit is for an asset, operation, something else?03:31
daviddelikatits in the EMS submission asset03:32
+perlDreameroh, well, contact the developer and let him know about it :)03:32
daviddelikatI just put together a bunch of forms into tabs and now it ...03:32
daviddelikatI've been talking to him all night, no response03:32
+perlDreamersome developers...03:33
daviddelikatI don't like talking to myself03:33
daviddelikatits bad for business03:33
daviddelikati'm not sure i get the 'straight-man' thing03:33
daviddelikatare we doing a cop sow theme?03:34
daviddelikats/sow/show/03:34
daviddelikatmy dragnet is pretty rusty03:34
+perlDreamernot a cop show, comedy stand-up03:35
daviddelikatheres a pic http://imagebin.ca/view/Sn5FiC.html03:36
daviddelikatthats kinda rusty too03:37
daviddelikatlast standup routine I saw was ~ 20 years ago in the smokey lounge at my frat house03:37
daviddelikatnow that I think about it I think I've seen this before03:40
daviddelikatbut as usual I can't recollect how it was fixed...03:40
+perlDreameris this the standard asset edit form?03:40
daviddelikatno its malformed by my program03:40
daviddelikat:)03:41
daviddelikatwhen you click the edit button it gives the normal form and hoverhelp is fine there03:42
+perlDreameris this Submission, or SubmissionForm03:42
daviddelikatso chances are i messed something up03:42
daviddelikat'num1' is submissionForm; 'title' is submission03:43
daviddelikatrestarting03:56
daviddelikati :( cache ; cache is :(03:57
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daviddelikatI think the problem is that I have it run through process style twice...04:05
daviddelikatno thats not it04:06
@preactionyeah that could be a problem, esp. if the first one doesn't have a head.tags04:06
@preactionwhen a style is processed, the head tags get zeroed out04:07
@preaction(iirc)04:07
@preactionmuch of webgui is very stream-based, very single-request oriented04:07
daviddelikatone part was getting double processing04:10
daviddelikatcross your fingers04:10
daviddelikatbrb04:10
+perlDreamerI'm off to orchestra practice04:23
+perlDreamercatch y'all later tonight04:23
daviddelikatenjoy04:23
@preactionindeed04:23
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elninoI created a prototype with children, but when I clicked on the prototype in the admin bar,it only creatd the top level asset... How may I get it's children copied over as well?06:35
@preactionyou have to use packages for that06:35
elninok. let me try.06:36
elninohmm. ok. It would be nice if it opened the top level asset for editing, if I create an rfe for that, do I have a chance that it be implemented?06:38
elninoor maybe an option. I can see benefits to both. 06:39
CIA-49webgui: daviddelikat master * r3b9902e / (11 files in 7 dirs): cleaned up the EMS submission system - http://bit.ly/GhZ4o07:01
CIA-49webgui: daviddelikat master * rf1ccdb0 / t/Asset/Wobject/EventManagementSystem.t : fixed a test - http://bit.ly/1CB4o807:01
CIA-49webgui: daviddelikat master * rd0c8554 / (8 files in 7 dirs): Merge branch 'master' into EMS - http://bit.ly/2iR8Gz07:01
CIA-49webgui: daviddelikat master * rc089da4 / docs/changelog/7.x.x.txt : added comment to the changelog - http://bit.ly/2sqviV07:01
daviddelikatoff for tonight07:12
elninobye07:13
daviddelikatprobably bakc on Saturday07:13
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+perlDreamereverybody went home...08:10
@preactionyou still have me to kick around08:31
@preactionoh, wait, no, bedtime08:31
+perlDreamernooo....!!!!08:31
+perlDreamerokay, bedtime08:32
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+BartJolplainhao: can you remove items from the bazaar?16:26
+BartJolJDanPl accidently added an iten 2 times16:27
+BartJolhis internet connection is flapping, so he asked me to ask it16:27
@plainhaobazaar? i'll see if i can, but i might not have privileges there16:29
+BartJolwell, I'll just ask the next16:29
@plainhaodoesn't seem i have privileges, BartJol16:37
+BartJolok16:37
+BartJolno problemo16:37
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+BartJolpreaction: wake?17:48
+BartJolawake?17:48
@preactionyep, sup?17:48
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+BartJolJDanPl added a bazaar item twice accidently17:49
+BartJolhe asked me to remove it, but I can't17:49
@preactionurl?17:49
+BartJolso now I'm asking you17:49
+BartJolhttp://www.webgui.org/bazaar/grouptextup-and-groupidtextup217:50
@preactionooh, i like that better than the normal grouptext macro17:50
@preactionthen if the number of items is odd, the last one could be a catch-all17:51
@preactionbut okay, i'll delete this one17:51
+BartJolyeah, the macro is nice, I saw a preview17:51
@preactiondone17:53
+BartJolgratias17:53
+BartJols/t/c/17:53
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+perlDreamerit's time to play everybody's favorite game show18:35
+perlDreamerhow long does it take for the progress bar to die18:35
+perlDreamerI'm your host, perlDreamer, and today's guest website is heavily loaded18:35
+perlDreamerWill it finish, or not?18:35
+BartJolooh18:36
+perlDreamerour first contestant, from the Netherlands.  What do you think?18:36
+BartJolI think it will break horribly18:36
+BartJolleaving traces around the globe18:37
+perlDreamerso far the process has been running for 6 minutes18:37
+perlDreamerany rebuttals from the audience?18:37
+BartJolwhat can I win?18:39
+perlDreamerA free web-based Content Management System capable of scaling up to enterprise needs.18:39
+perlDreamerWith a newly fixed progress bar18:39
+BartJolthat's a fairytale18:40
+perlDreamerwell, at least half of it is18:40
+BartJolwell, I'm of impregnating my wall tiles18:42
+BartJoleeeh18:42
+BartJolthat was a dutchism18:42
+BartJolno babies of mine are on their way18:43
+BartJoladieu18:43
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+perlDreamerjust dies at 8:4518:45
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@preactionwhat's Bart's last name? he contribued a macro to core and he's not on the docs/credits.txt19:15
@preactionalso didn't Trex contribute some fixes?19:16
@preactionand Rogier and other people from the TWG19:17
@preactionPatspam's contemporary, Andy contributed some icons19:17
@preactionis that Andy Grundman?19:17
+perlDreamerJol19:21
+perlDreamerAndy Smith19:21
+perlDreamerRogier is Rogier Voogt19:21
+perlDreamerserif is...19:21
+perlDreamerthat tall dark haired lady from Knowmad19:21
+perlDreamerI think Rory contributed some things as well19:24
+perlDreamerand some people from a place called Plain Black did a few things19:25
@preactionyeah, i'm adding Hao, Paul, and Steve Opal19:27
nubawasnt it pain back? ;)19:27
+perlDreamerAlso Meg, John and Tabb19:27
@preactionthey're in there19:27
@preactionwhat about Lauralyn?19:27
+perlDreamerfrom what I can remember, she hasn't contributed any code19:27
+perlDreamerjust huge amounts of forum posts, bugs, RFEs and wiki pages19:28
@preactionbut did Koen contribute code?19:28
@preactioni know Laura Rummage didn't, she was a tech writer19:28
@preactionKristi is on there too19:29
@preactionJamie Vrbsky19:29
@preactionetc...19:29
@preactionAlan Smithee... nice...19:29
+perlDreamerKoen may indeed have done some coding19:31
+perlDreamerCare to consult on a bug?  It's the progress bar dying bug.19:31
@preactionsure19:31
+perlDreamerYou need a big website, and to run Edit Branch on it19:31
+perlDreamerThe PB just freezes/dies19:32
+perlDreamerWeb browser says done19:32
+perlDreamerbut it doesn't do any redirecting19:32
@preactiondoes the edit branch complete?19:32
+perlDreamerno19:32
@preactionyou're running the WRE right?19:32
+perlDreameryes19:32
@preactioncheck /data/wre/var/logs/wremonitor.log and see if wremonitor killed anything19:32
+perlDreameroooh!19:33
+perlDreamerLog says all is well with MySQL, and spectre.19:34
+perlDreamernothing about apache in it near the times it's shutdown19:34
@preactiondoes it stall before it quits?19:34
@preactionis Bart from Procolix?19:35
+perlDreamerI don't know, and yes19:35
+perlDreamerit's runaway monitor19:35
@preactionyou're running that?19:35
@preactionor the wremonitor's runaway monitor?19:36
+perlDreamerit's some cron job19:36
@preactionrogier is United Knowledge right?19:38
+perlDreamerYes19:38
CIA-49webgui: Doug Bell master * r3561165 / docs/credits.txt : added a bunch of nice people - http://bit.ly/Kibdl19:41
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+perlDreamermducharme contributed some LDAP fixes19:49
+perlDreamerdocumentation rewrites19:49
+perlDreameralso david delikat19:49
@preactionright, David19:50
@preactionmducharme... need a real name for that one19:50
+perlDreamermducharme-work: ping19:51
+perlDreamerI really, really like template attachments19:52
+perlDreamerI think it has one unthought of feature19:52
@preactionthat's frodwith care of the Alumni group19:52
+perlDreamerand that is that you can now easily find out every file that a template uses19:52
+perlDreamerso that if we wanted to change underying PB include files, you could walk through the attachments and upgrade custom templates19:53
@preactionthat was one of the reasons i wanted it ;)19:53
@preactionhell, that was the main reason i wanted it19:53
+perlDreamerwell, you and frodwith are brilliant19:53
+perlDreamereven if the code needed some i18n19:53
@preactionwe just need to get atachments talking to filepump and then we're golden19:53
+perlDreamerwe need a $15M grant just to work on core code for 1 year19:54
@preaction15M? 0.15M would be enough for 3 people19:56
+perlDreamerYou, Haarg, JT.  You're going to need a designer or 2.20:00
+perlDreamerand I'm selfish enough to want to include me, and some other non-PB folk20:00
+perlDreamerbecause, hey, with $15M there should be enough to share20:00
@preactionokay, .25M then20:01
@preactionbut really, with how things go, we don't need designers. we just need someone to put two html tags together20:02
CIA-49webgui: Doug Bell master * r9b4ac74 / docs/credits.txt : added some more wonderful people - http://bit.ly/1oO7Cp20:02
+perlDreamerI was thinking they would finish the zenification of the templates20:05
+perlDreamerin any case, I'm off to the gym20:06
+perlDreamermaybe I'll buy a lottery ticket, too20:06
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David_2008/10/04 00:09:46 - ERROR - spectre.conf - POE::Kernel::_dispatch_event[1012] - CRON: Response for job www.domain.com.conf-pbcron0000000000000004 had a communications error. <HTML>?<HEAD><TITLE>An Error Occurred</TITLE></HEAD>?<BODY>?<H1>An Error Occurred</H1>?500 Internal Server Error?</BODY>?</HTML>21:22
David_sorry21:22
David_i am getting this error everytime my forms tried to send emails21:22
David_and the emails do not go out21:22
David_anybody can help?21:24
@preactionDavid_: cd /data/WebGUI/sbin; perl spectre.pl --test; and put the output in a pastebin somewhere21:29
David_running connecitivy test testing mydomain.conf tests completed21:30
@preactionokay, so spectre can communicate just fine. connect to the mysql database and run "SELECT COUNT(*) FROM mailQueue", are there messages in the queue?21:32
@preactionthat 500 error is actually caused by LWP, usually because of a timeout21:32
@preactionis your site under strain?21:32
David_no21:32
@preactionno to which question?21:34
David_site under strain21:34
David_i am running the mysql coommand21:34
David_count 0 21:36
@preactionthen all the mail is sent out21:36
David_then why am i getting these errors21:37
David_there are constant21:38
@preactiondo "SELECT * FROM WorkflowInstance WHERE workflowId='pbcron0000000000000004'" and pastebin the output (not here, to a pastebin, www.pastebin.com)21:39
David_done i get empty set21:44
@preactionthen they were just temporary errors. spectre was having some trouble connecting to webgui21:45
@preactionwhen a backup is running, that can happen (backups need to lock the entire site to read-only)21:45
David_backups are not configure on the box yet21:45
David_i get the same error every minute21:46
David_that can't be normal21:46
@preactionalways the the pbcron00000..4? and nothing in the WorkflowInstance table? try restarting spectre21:47
David_yes same pbcron21:48
David_i restarted the box multiple times21:48
David_doesn't matter that im commiting without approval21:48
@preactionthen if it's not affecting anything, i wouldn't worry about it21:49
@preactionbut to humor me, what does "perl spectre.pl --status" say?21:49
David_i pasted it21:50
@preactionwhat's the URL it gave you?21:51
David_http://pastebin.com/m1a4660ad21:51
@preactionand if you go into the site it says and type "SELECT * FROM WorkflowInstance" you get empty set?21:51
David_http://pastebin.com/mb5a5cb21:53
@preactionokay, nothing untoward there21:54
@preactionthe pbcron 00004 is the Hourly Maintenance Tasks, which doesn't do the sending mail, so really it's most likely just a temporary hiccup21:55
David_ok let me try my form again21:55
@preactionmail does not get sent immediately, it gets queued and sent every 15 minutes (the "Send Queued Mail Messages" scheduler entry)21:56
David_ok let me try to see what happens21:57
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@preactionhttp://www.perl.org/ <- oh nice22:36
+perlDreamerhttp://use.perl.org/~TeeJay/journal/3987722:43
+perlDreamerI like the site redesign22:43
@preactionyeah, it's great22:44
@preactionalso, WebGUI 8 is using Moose! yay!22:44
+perlDreamerit is?22:44
+perlDreamerwhen did that happen?22:44
@preactionyup22:44
@preactionlast week22:44
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@preactionthe new Definition stuff is gonna use Moose instead22:45
@preactionsince we're really just reimplementing it22:45
+perlDreamermaybe I should hold off working on the Style Template stuff22:45
@preactionso now i can use the little parts of it22:45
@preactionstyle template stuff?22:45
+perlDreameruntil y'all have it all settled down22:45
+perlDreameryeah, I have 2 wg8 jobs22:45
@preactionoh monkey, yeah that's put on hold for now22:45
@preactionand the TT stuff as well22:45
+perlDreamer1) Split Style out of Template22:45
+perlDreamerand 2) H::T to T::T conversion22:45
@preactioni mean, if you want to do it that's great, but it's not a requirement anymore22:46
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+perlDreamerhuh?22:46
+perlDreamerso, if we're using Moose, how close is DBIx::Class and the like?22:47
+perlDreamercuz in that link I posted, T::T and DBIx::Class were the main reasons he won't use wG22:48
@preactioni'm replying to it now. DBIx::Class is about 50-100% slower22:50
@preactionjust for instantiating an asset22:50
+perlDreamerouch22:51
@preactionbut i haven't done any tweaking, and WebGUI has a huge array of caching and other performance tweaks22:51
@preactionso there's really no real answer there yet22:52
+perlDreamerI wonder if people take the slowdown in exchange for ease of use/programming22:52
@preactionyeah. my time is more expensive than CPU time22:53
+perlDreamersince we're link sharing today: http://rss.slashdot.org/~r/Slashdot/slashdot/~3/7pVj1c0lO28/HTTP-Intermediary-Layer-From-Google-Could-Dramatically-Speed-Up-the-Web22:54
@preactionyeah, saw that. seems nice if it really works22:55
+perlDreamernice reply :)23:01
@preactionit pretty much is what he wants. just not mature yet23:01
@preactioni'm going for Django in Perl, really23:01
@preactionbecause he's right. both Mojo and Catalyst are just stepping stones to a site. the same bullcrap you have to write over and over (pages, blogs, etc...)23:02
@preactionand since nothing is in the core, upgrading is a bitch (like Drupal)23:02
@preaction(that's the reason why CTC went with us back in 6.x instead of Drupal, JT put the basic stuff into core)23:04
+perlDreamerit is nice to have it all rolled together23:06
@preactionexactly23:06
@preactionbut the downside is "where do i start adding my own stuff", i want to fix that part too23:06
@preactionmy problem is i know too much about frameworks and CMS and web and blah blah blah23:07
@preactionand i don't have enough time to implement it all23:07
+perlDreamerthat's how I feel about testing23:10
+perlDreamerso many tests to write23:10
+perlDreamerbut not so much time23:11
+perlDreamerbut I was very encouraged by the people who stepped up to help write macro tests23:11
@preactionindeed, that is nice23:12
@preactionDavid_: please do not private message without asking. is the pbcron000000...4 still running? is it in the WorkflowInstance table? are there new errors in the log? 23:39
David_sorry23:39
@preactionone possible problem could be DNS resolution, is your sitename in the /etc/hosts file pointing to localhost?23:39
David_can i paste you my host file 23:39
@preactionshouldn't need to, does "127.0.0.1 hostname" exist as a line in there?23:40
David_yes23:40
David_first line 23:40
David_127.0.0.1 localhost23:40
David_well i have an issue with that i think23:41
@preactionlocalhost is the sitename in your config file?23:41
David_no23:41
@preactionthe first sitename in your webgui config file23:41
@preactionyou want 127.0.0.1 sitename23:41
David_i guess a better question would be what exactly should be on my host file23:42
David_i have to 127.0.0.1 localhost23:42
@preactionso after "localhost", add whatever your domain name is23:42
@preactionand if there are more than one, put them all, seperated by whitespace23:42
David_i have a single domain and it should point to the loop address right23:43
@preactionin the /etc/hosts file, yes23:43
David_so i have 127.0.0.1 localhost www.domain1.com www.domain2.com23:44
David_that's it23:44
@preactionyeah. as long as "www.domain1.com" matches exactly the first item in the sitename : [ ... ] key of the webgui config23:45
David_well the way this is configure in the sitename is  : www that's it23:45
@preactionthat's bad. the first entry in the sitename key should be the web-facing domain name23:46
@preactionthe domain name the user enters23:46
@preactionif spectre tried to look up "www", it wouldn't find anything, and that could cause the error you see23:46
+perlDreamerI don't believe this.23:47
+perlDreamerI'm getting spam from somebody on the forums23:47
@preactionnice23:47
+perlDreamerWhat kind of public flaming do you think that deserves?23:47
@preactionnuclear23:47
David_so preaction how do i go about changing the sitename, is it possible ?23:49
David_at least to match the host file23:49
@preactionDavid_: yes. all you have to do is change it and then restart webgui23:49
@preaction(and spectre too)23:49
+perlDreamerchange it in the WebGUI configuration file23:50
+perlDreamerin the sitename entry23:50
+perlDreamer"sitename" : [ .... ],23:50
David_ok change sitename to whole www.domain.com same as i have in the host file 23:55
CIA-49webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r97ce509 / (8 files in 4 dirs): 23:57
CIA-49webgui: Adding new Style templates and CSS from TWG.23:57
CIA-49webgui: The new css/wg-css replaces /webgui.css. It is removed in this upgrade. - http://bit.ly/1AYrND23:57
+perlDreamerthat Rogier does nice work23:59
+perlDreamereverything packaged up and documented23:59
David_now at restart httpd: apr_sockaddr_info_get() failed for localhost.localdomain23:59
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David_and still mail sitting there00:00
* perlDreamer heads out to pick up kids from school00:00
+perlDreamerbbiaw00:00
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+perlDreamerpreaction: may I move the LDAP credentials into WebGUI::Test so they can be used in multiple places without copying them?01:18
@preactionsure01:19
+perlDreamerLDAPLink needs an MVC makeover01:26
@preactionyeah01:27
mducharmewhat's happening with ldap?01:30
@preactionhow so?01:31
+perlDreamermducharme, there were two bugs filed against LDAP in wG.01:31
+perlDreamerI'm just trying to build some tests to make sure we don't break anything while fixing the bugs.01:31
+perlDreameryou can find the bugs on the bug board, on the 1st page.01:32
mducharmeahh yes01:33
mducharmeI discovered that first one myself years ago01:33
mducharmethought it was simply by design01:33
mducharmethe 1121701:33
+perlDreamerbad status reporting?01:33
+perlDreamerI'm going to skip the part where I try to convince you to do some hacking...01:34
+perlDreamerand just ask if there's anything else weird that you've seen01:34
mducharmeonly with the registration01:36
mducharmethe fact that if webgui is set for ldap auth, that the "register for an account" link or whatever the text is, all it does is gives them a webgui account for their pre-existing ldap account01:37
+perlDreamerinstead of driving an account back to the LDAP server?01:37
mducharmevery little benefit in that since the automatic registration was put in so that the webgui account gets auotmatically created01:37
mducharmeexactly, or instead of creating it as a standard webgui auth01:37
mducharmethere are situations where corporations use this thing for their public websites, and they use LDAP inside, but don't necessarily want people on the outside to have LDAP accounts, but want them to be able to register01:38
@preactionyeah, that's because you can't use two auth modules at the same time01:39
@preactionat least, not fully01:39
mducharmeyou can have some users in the system with ldap accounts and some with webgui accounts though01:39
@preactionyes01:39
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mducharmeI just think that the registration link should either be not an option when using LDAP or should actually do something useful01:40
mducharmeand it's often nice to use LDAP for internal staff to be able to use their network login to get into webgui and edit stuff or whatever, but also nice to allow visitors to register for webgui auth accounts01:42
@preactionin that case, WebGUI should be the "Auth method to use", and you should manually make LDAP accounts for those who need them01:43
mducharmewebgui registration creating the user in ldap is another option, yes, but that would have to be something that could be turned on or off01:43
@preactionthat'd be the best way for now01:43
@preactionbut yes, Auth needs to be completely revisited, and we may or may not have time for 8 (but during the 8 dev cycle it will be looked at, even if we don't get to it right away)01:44
+perlDreamerit would only take 1 day to fix LDAPLink01:47
mducharmeif automatic ldap registration worked when the site auth method to use was set to WebGUI, that would be a big improvement01:49
mducharmeso that accounts would not have to be manually created for ldap users while still allowing the general public to register for logins01:50
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@preactionwow, this site must have thousands of orphaned version tags02:15
+perlDreamerI've seen that problem several times02:15
+perlDreamerI wish I knew what was doing it02:15
@preactionnot surprising, this site probably has 100 new tags a day02:15
+perlDreamerthen it should be fairly easy to find02:16
@preactionhow many tags do each * count for?02:16
+perlDreamerthat wasn't in english02:17
@preactionhttp://github.com/plainblack/webgui/blob/master/docs/upgrades/upgrade_7.7.18-7.7.19.pl02:17
@preactionthere's a * counter in that sub now02:17
@preactioneach * counts for 100 tags02:17
@preaction100 orphaned tags02:18
@preactionthis is how many hundreds i have so far02:18
@preaction***********************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************02:18
@preactionwait, 600 more just happened02:18
mducharmejust happened just now?02:20
+perlDreamerpreaction went *02:20
mducharmeheh02:21
+perlDreamerpreaction, I ported that code from the other branch.  patspam rewrote the sub to be a lot faster.02:21
+perlDreamermaybe it needs a unless $quiet tagged to the end of it?02:21
@preactionyeah, it was fast. there was just 20000+ tags02:21
+perlDreamermaybe we should pull that method out, and stick it into VersionTag?02:22
+perlDreamersounds quite useful02:22
+perlDreamerpreaction: when you clink on LDAP Links in the Admin Bar, what happens?02:52
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+perlDreamerstupid fedora perl03:31
+perlDreamerthat's #203:31
+perlDreamerpatspam, which ubuntu do you use?03:31
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topsubhey guys04:52
topsubwhoa, you guys change the home page of webgui04:52
+patspamperlDreamer: karmic koala05:48
+patspam9.1005:48
+patspamum, desktop05:49
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elninoeasy question I hope: how do i get a dollar sign to show up in the variant in shop?07:15
+perlDreamerthat's not an easy question07:15
+perlDreamerWebGUI's shop is designed to be currency agnostic07:16
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elninodoh. I guess I'll go to sleep then. =)07:16
+perlDreamerhowever, I think if you look at the template variables for the variants, you'll see a way07:16
+perlDreamerto build the dropdown by hand, and to add a dollar sign07:16
elninoah. I see. I think I have it. Thanks.07:18
+perlDreameryw :)07:18
elninoit's too bad that donation and events can't be related products.07:19
+perlDreamerit could be a 9 character change to Asset::Sku::Product on line 100807:25
elninocool.07:25
elninoback ot he dollar sign... I could only change it where it lists the variants to edit, but not in the display of the drop list.. Infact, I don't see the drop list being built anywhere... must be magic07:26
elninooh. I see.07:28
elninoit was magic.07:28
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+perlDreamerwow, got kicked off07:53
elninowhat'd you do?07:55
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elninobye all.08:19
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CIA-49webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.7 * r442a5a2 / lib/WebGUI/Operation/LDAPLink.pm : Fix pagination issues in the List LDAPLinks screen. - http://bit.ly/3p53QR08:20
CIA-49webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r7c94f6f / lib/WebGUI/Operation/LDAPLink.pm : Fix pagination issues in the List LDAPLinks screen. - http://bit.ly/4fP0xd08:20
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SquOnkGreetings15:41
SDuensinGreetings.16:23
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SquOnkIs there a way for the LDAP-Profile synch to happen automatically on _every_ login by the user. I've been able to synch only on registration, admin create or admin update.16:33
SquOnkSorry, the first sentence was a question ;-)16:33
SDuensinDunno that dude.  I still need to set up LDAP for myself.16:37
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ckotilsounds like a perform on login workflow would be needed to do that.16:49
SquOnkckotil: Oh. Haven't done anything like that before.17:06
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ckotilIm not sure there is such a workflow trigger17:13
ckotilSDuensin: Ive been wanting to do ldap for a while now to populate my groups. I finally am up to a version of webgui that i can do ldaps right out of the box. but so far i have only seen documentation populating groups when you use ldap authentication. problem is that we are using ldap for authorization only17:20
SDuensinThat's why I've not messed with it.  LDAP just seems funky all over.17:21
ckotilwe're using it all over the place. apache, our web apps (other than webgui), and unix systems17:23
ckotilbut for authentication we still use kerberos, our cosign (SSO) with kerberos backend17:23
ckotils/our/or17:23
SDuensinAll I know is that I need something.  Just not decided on what I want that to be yet.17:24
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@Haargmorning patspam17:39
+patspamhey Haarg17:39
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+perlDreameranyone else use OpenDNS ?18:37
SquOnkperlDreamer: Is there a way for the LDAP-Profile synch to happen automatically on _every_ login by the user? I've been able to synch only on registration, admin create or admin update.18:38
+perlDreamerthere's a workflow for doing syn, SquOnk18:39
+perlDreamersync18:39
+perlDreamersyncProfilesToLdap18:39
+perlDreamerthen all one would need is a workflow trigger18:39
+perlDreameror to put the workflow SyncProfilesToLdap into a frequent cron job18:40
SquOnkperlDreamer: I know. I have it and it's enabled.18:40
SquOnkperlDreamer: But does the sync happen on every login?18:40
+perlDreamerno18:40
SquOnkperlDreamer: Ok, so how do I go setting up such trigger?18:40
+perlDreameryou can run a script on every login, but not a WebGUI workflow18:40
+perlDreamerWebGUI::Auth, sub login18:41
+perlDreamersetup a workflow containing the SyncProfileToLdap activity18:41
+perlDreameradd a setting to Settings that lets you choose a workflow to run on login18:41
+perlDreamerin the login sub, check to see if the workflow is defined, if so...18:42
+perlDreamersee the code in createAccountSave that creates a Workflow Instance and starts it18:42
+perlDreamernear line 33618:42
+perlDreamerthat's a workflow trigger18:42
+perlDreamerand then...18:42
+perlDreamerrealizing what an awesome feature it is, submit an RFE with a patch for RFE day on Monday18:43
SquOnkDoes an RFE for that makes sense or it's something not that general?18:43
+perlDreamerit makes tons of sense18:43
SquOnkperlDreamer: Will do then ;-)18:43
+perlDreamermuch better to run a workflow than some script18:43
SquOnkperlDreamer: I'll try to hack it tomorrow though18:43
+perlDreamerI'm going to drop off to reset my DNS settings.  Be back quickly (I hope)...18:46
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perlDreamer1yeah, that worked really well...19:00
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perlDreamer1hey, dreamersgirl19:06
dreamersgirlhi!19:07
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+patspamperlDreamer: yesterday I was having dns issues so i revisited openDNS, but looks so commercial now19:29
+perlDreamerwith their for pay offering? yeah.19:30
+perlDreamerFortunately the free methods still works19:30
+perlDreamerexcept for looking up LDAP urls that don't exist19:30
+perlDreamerthat will make httpd very unhappy19:30
+perlDreamerhad a load of 10 on my poor laptop19:30
+patspamah that's better, I can opt out of my isp's dumb "dns assistant"19:32
+patspamI prefer dns lookups to fail.. since that triggers ffx to do a google search for me19:32
+perlDreamerman, no dynamic window resizing in CentOS under VirtualBox19:33
+perlDreamerbig bummer19:33
+patspamcentos as guest or host?19:34
+perlDreamerguest19:34
+perlDreamerX in CentOS is too old19:34
+patspamwith virtualbox tools installed in the guest?19:34
+perlDreameryes19:34
+patspamdang19:34
+perlDreamerand unlike my host, I have to have a CentOS VM for release testing19:34
+patspamdoes copy/paste work?19:34
+patspamthat's even more annoying when it isn't supported19:34
+perlDreamerhaven't tried it yet.  It's what the guest additions installer told me.19:35
* patspam wanders off for lunch19:36
@Haargi stick to an install without X or guess additions and just use ssh19:36
+perlDreamerI haven't figured out how to make FF connect to the httpd inside Vbox, which is useful sometimes19:37
+perlDreamerotherwise, that's a great idea19:37
+perlDreamerHow do you tell the IP address?19:37
+perlDreamerdoesn't it create a whole virtual network to use?19:38
+perlDreamerI mean, subnet.19:38
@Haargdepends on how you set it up19:38
@Haargby default it just does nat, which doesn't work for that19:38
@Haargif you have it set up using a host only adapter though your machine gets a network interface for communication with the vm19:40
+perlDreamerbut using the host-only adapter, do you still get bridged access to the internet from the guest?19:43
@Haargyes19:44
@Haargit still functions as a gateway for the vm19:44
CIA-49webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.7 * r7e931ad / (5 files in 5 dirs): Fix status reporting for successful connects but bad binds. Fixes bug #11216 - http://bit.ly/3SB2Rk19:51
CIA-49webgui: Colin Kuskie master * rbc21f90 / (5 files in 5 dirs): Fix status reporting for successful connects but bad binds. Fixes bug #11216 - http://bit.ly/2cuX7V19:51
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+perlDreamermducharme, mducharme-work, that set of commits was LDAP changes, if you're curious.20:06
+perlDreamerthere will be another set in a little while20:06
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@preactionwow. adding Moose and running Devel::Cover makes it take a LOT longer20:27
@preactionit's been 15 minutes now, for one module's tests20:28
+perlDreameris that Moose, or Devel::Cover20:31
+perlDreamermaybe you could tell Devel::Cover to ignore Moose20:31
@preactionoh, duh20:32
@preactionbut i think i already did tell it to only include WebGUI::* modules20:32
@preactionthat's what wgd test --cover="" should do20:32
@preactionbut i suppose i should make sure20:32
+perlDreamer--cover="" sets up the cover_db dir20:34
+perlDreamercoverOptions is the right thing20:34
@preactionwhen was that added? i don't remember that one20:35
* perlDreamer doesn't know20:35
+perlDreamerthat's off of HEAD in master20:35
@preactioni thought the default options were to just do webgui files20:35
@preactionah20:35
+perlDreamerdefault options are select,WebGUI,ignore,^t20:35
+perlDreamerI'd check the first coverage report that's generated to see if Moose crept in20:36
+perlDreamerwhile you're waiting... :)20:36
@preactionyeah, that should be "do anything in WebGUI, but ignore WebGUI/t"20:36
@preactionheh, it's still building. i did two tests, the second one's running now, so another 20 minutes20:37
+perlDreamerI could use some help with an LDAP test, setting up a user from inside a test20:37
@preactionenough time to shower, i think something allergic to me is on my skin :(20:37
+perlDreamerugh20:37
+perlDreamergo shower20:37
+perlDreamerI'll keep digging20:37
@preactionthe "Samuel Norton" user is the root user20:37
@preactionof the LDAP server20:37
@preactionso he should be able to add users20:37
+perlDreameryes, I need to add a user, and then register on the test server, and then change his DN20:38
@preactionbut LDAP is still rather opaque to me20:38
@preactionahh20:38
@preactionbrb then20:38
+perlDreamerhow do you admin the server?20:38
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CIA-49webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r6c62703 / t/Auth.t : Add a test to check what the login method returns in the normal case, with no login messages. - http://bit.ly/12mjfi20:44
CIA-49webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.7 * r14682b7 / t/Auth.t : Add a test to check what the login method returns in the normal case, with no login messages. - http://bit.ly/1y5bSi20:44
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CIA-49webgui: Colin Kuskie master * rb88a7bc / (4 files in 3 dirs): Escape single quotes sent to the ProgressBar. Fixes but #11229. - http://bit.ly/3SEXIq21:18
CIA-49webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.7 * rdd9d158 / (4 files in 3 dirs): Escape single quotes sent to the ProgressBar. Fixes but #11229. - http://bit.ly/1So4Ax21:18
@preactionperlDreamer: it's rather weird. you have to create an "ldif" file and use "ldapmodify < ldif" to modify the ldap server21:21
+perlDreamerIt would be easier to do it remotely21:21
+perlDreamerlike this: http://gist.github.com/23408521:22
+perlDreamersee the code at the bottom21:22
+perlDreamerconnect with authority21:22
+perlDreameradd a DN21:22
+perlDreamerallow the user to login21:22
+perlDreamererr, register, then login21:22
+perlDreamerlogout21:22
+perlDreamermodify the DN21:22
+perlDreamerthen try to login in again21:22
@preactionyes, it is easier to do it w/ Net::LDAP ;)21:22
+perlDreamerit should fail without the patch, and auto update with the patch21:22
+perlDreamerbut what's the schema for adding a user21:23
+perlDreamerand which users are prepopulated?21:23
+perlDreamercould I see your default ldif file that you used for populating the users?21:23
+perlDreameralso, it might be worth scrubbing the ldap server nightly to erase test hiccups21:23
@preactionheh, i don't have it anymore :(21:23
@preactionyou'd be better off doing it the Net::LDAP style21:24
+perlDreamerthat's what I've done, but it's failing21:24
@preactionlet me work something up quick21:24
+perlDreamerI get error code 80, "other"21:24
@preactionyour paste doesn't seem to have the code you're doing21:24
+perlDreamerI haven't gotten past the "add user" phase yet21:24
@preactionokay, let me try something then21:25
+perlDreamerI stash'ed the code21:31
+perlDreamerlet me apply it and repaste21:31
+perlDreamerhttp://gist.github.com/23409221:31
+perlDreamerthat's what I was really working with, preaction21:32
+perlDreamerrunning in 5 minutes21:32
@preactionah, you're missing the objectClass and userPassword. let me try something and get back to you21:34
+perlDreamerpreaction++21:35
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* perlDreamer will be back later21:40
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@preactionuse strict;21:42
@preactionuse warnings;21:42
@preactionuse Net::LDAP;21:42
@preactionmy $ldap = Net::LDAP->new( 'smoke.plainblack.com' ) or die "Couldn't connect: $@";21:42
@preaction$ldap->bind( 21:42
@preaction    'cn=Samuel Norton,ou=Warden,o=shawshank', 21:42
@preaction    password        => 'gooey',21:42
@preaction);21:42
@preactionmy $result = $ldap->add( 'cn=Brooks Hatlen,ou=Convicts,o=shawshank',21:42
@preaction    attr    => [21:42
@preaction        cn              => 'Brooks Hatlen',21:42
@preaction        givenName       => 'Brooks',21:42
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@preaction        sn              => 'Hatlen',21:42
@preaction        ou              => 'Convicts',21:42
@preaction        o               => 'shawshank',21:42
xdanger=)21:42
@preaction        objectClass     => [ qw( top inetOrgPerson ) ],21:42
@preaction        userPassword    => 'BrooksHatlen',21:43
@preaction    ]21:43
@preaction);21:43
@preaction$result->code && warn "failed to add entry: ", $result->error;21:44
@preaction$ldap->delete( 'cn=Brooks Hatlen,ou=Convicts,o=shawshank' );21:44
@preaction$ldap->unbind;21:44
@preactionhttp://pastie.org/69771721:44
@preaction... nice21:44
@preactionhttp://pastie.org/69771721:44
@preactionit was the missing objectClass that was causing the problem21:44
@preactionLDAP... is ... weird...21:44
@preactionit is incredibly powerful. it's like another relational database type if you want it to be21:44
@preactionall those new databases that just store dicts/hashes of data by an ID could be implemented in an LDAP fashion21:44
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SquOnkpreaction: LDAP is not to be used as an RDBMS. It's painfully slow for writing.22:57
@preactionreally?22:57
@preactiondamn22:57
SquOnkpreaction: Yes, really.22:57
@preactionit that just a product of the implementation? or is that a requirement of the protocol?22:57
SquOnkpreaction: If you want to have fast serializing, you'll be better of using BerkeleyDB. No relations nor joins however.22:58
SquOnkpreaction: A little bit of both.22:58
@preactionright, but there's those new database-like systems that are just storing hashes with keys22:58
SquOnkpreaction: LDAP doesn't define the storage mechanism. You can have your directory on an SQL backend (which is NOT recommended AT ALL)22:58
@preactioni forget what they're named now22:58
SquOnkpreaction: Since LDAP models data as a DAG (Directed Acyclic Graph), the relational model is quite bad for it.22:59
SquOnkpreaction: So, what happened was that the hierarchical model of LDAP can be deployed using several DBM databases.22:59
SquOnkpreaction: One stores the entries with a single primary key (objectID), the rest are for indexes.22:59
SquOnkpreaction: Thus, reading is blazing fast. Writing, not much.23:00
@preactionKiokuDB, that's the one i'm thinking of23:00
SquOnkpreaction: With OpenLDAP you can even mock up a database using Perl.23:00
SquOnkpreaction: Take WebGUI, for instance: you _could_ handle all of the Profile part of it using LDAP. But the rest of it must be done inside a RDBMS.23:01
SquOnkpreaction: The hierarchichal structure of Assets in WebGUI is not exactly like the one in LDAP, and even if it were I wouldn't use LDAP to store it.23:01
@preactionbut LDAP is an ODBMS, like KiokuDB. WebGUI could be done (with much modification, of course) with an ODBMS23:01
SquOnkpreaction: Using an ORDBMS would be better, yes. That's why I push PostgreSQL so much.23:02
SquOnkpreaction: The lineage thing would be simpler, way faster and less prone to corruption, if subclassed tables were used.23:02
@preactioni wonder if using pg would make the DBIx::Class stuff I'm doing faster than the current mysql / WebGUI::Asset23:04
@preactionif we migrate to DBIx::Class, there's no cost to migrate to different dbms23:04
@preactionbut would we get the benefit of pg's ordbms features when using an ORM like DBIx::Class?23:04
SquOnkpreaction: Yes and no.23:09
SquOnkpreaction: You cannot use Pg extra features on the client side.23:10
SquOnkpreaction: You'd have to create stored procedures and use them as if they were tables.23:10
SquOnkpreaction: Or you have to create custom DBIx::Class methods to handle the special things Pg can do.23:10
@preactionah23:10
SquOnkpreaction: But the main attractive of going DBIx::Class is being able to run on almost any database, but also being able to quickly migrate from one to the other, thanks to the fairy.23:12
@preactionright, i'm already doing it for that reason. i'd just like to be able to take advantage of ever more performance tweaks23:17
@preactionDBIx::Class introduces some overhead, so we have to be able to do more tweaks to get it as fast or faster than our current "solution"23:17
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+perlDreamerpreaction, thanks23:38
@preactionfor?23:38
+perlDreamerLDAP-ification23:39
@preactionhttp://pastie.org/697717 <- so you got this then?23:39
+perlDreameryup23:39
+perlDreamerI used the WebGUI Channel logging service23:39
@preactionk23:39
@preactionah, mais oui23:39
@preactioni believe i've got a great percentage of the FormBuilder tested now, at least as far as the object manipulation goes23:40
@preactionjust need to start messing with toHtml and the MooseX::Storage stuff (JSON serialization)23:40
+perlDreamercool!23:40
@preactiononce again TDD makes things easy23:40
@preactiontook me today, that was it. not even 5 hours23:41
+perlDreamerAfter looking at LDAPlink code the last few days that I think we should start "sanctioned" maintenance projects23:41
+perlDreamerlike, making LDAPLink an actual enclosed object class23:41
+perlDreamerthey're things we want done, that should be small and well defined that we can hand off to anyone with tuits/time to help out23:42
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SquOnkAll right, I'm off01:21
+perlDreamerttyl01:21
SquOnkperlDreamer: You'll be here tomorrow?01:21
+perlDreamermaybe, maybe not01:21
+perlDreamerhousework calls01:21
+perlDreamerand a model train show :)01:21
SquOnkperlDreamer: Ok. I'm going to try the sync on login thing01:21
SquOnkperlDreamer: Oh, you like model trains?01:21
+perlDreameryou can email me if you have questions, too.01:21
+perlDreamerI prefer large trains, but my sons like anything on rails01:21
SquOnkperlDreamer: We have a local Perl monger that created a complete control system using Perl and his craftsmanship as an electrical engineer01:22
+perlDreamerwow!01:22
SquOnkperlDreamer: And he showed us how it works about six meetings ago.01:22
SquOnkperlDreamer: Progressive acceleration and all...01:22
SquOnkperlDreamer: He used his parallel port to control a home-made signal amplifier connected to the rails where he multiplexed digital pulses.01:23
SquOnkperlDreamer: Very cool stuff.01:23
+perlDreamersounds like home built DCC01:23
SquOnkperlDreamer: He's no programmer. He hacked up a PerlTk control system to move the trains around...01:23
SquOnk...the changers and even a home-made turntable.01:23
SquOnkVery cool stuff.01:24
SquOnkAnyway, I'm off.01:24
SquOnkperlDreamer: Thanks, I'll write if I get stuck.01:24
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+perlDreamerman, that took a very long time01:58
+perlDreamerbut LDAP DN updates are done02:01
+perlDreamerpreaction, just so you know, you can't use replace of modify to change the DN of an entry02:02
+perlDreameryou have to use moddn02:02
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CIA-49webgui: Colin Kuskie master * rc4e63df / (5 files in 4 dirs): Auto update user's DN if it changes on the LDAP server. Fixes bug #11217 - http://bit.ly/2ns4Y502:16
CIA-49webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.7 * r0ee28a1 / (5 files in 4 dirs): Auto update user's DN if it changes on the LDAP server. Fixes bug #11217 - http://bit.ly/1RmgNa02:16
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CIA-49webgui: Colin Kuskie master * rc4ab124 / lib/WebGUI/Asset/File/GalleryFile/Photo.pm : i18n the Add Photo save button - http://bit.ly/2h3RJH02:29
CIA-49webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.7 * r7eddaab / lib/WebGUI/Asset/File/GalleryFile/Photo.pm : i18n the Add Photo save button - http://bit.ly/CP9Oy02:29
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CIA-49webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r1f49737 / (4 files in 4 dirs): Allow other users to save photos into another user's album. Fixes bug #11228. - http://bit.ly/Pxl8w03:15
CIA-49webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.7 * ra03d7e8 / (4 files in 4 dirs): Allow other users to save photos into another user's album. Fixes bug #11228. - http://bit.ly/2sR8ei03:15
+perlDreamer5 bugs fixed today03:17
+perlDreamernot too shabby03:17
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daviddelikatHELLO HeLlo Hello hello20:06
daviddelikatis there anybody in there?20:06
daviddelikatjust nod if you can hear me20:06
fokatHi guys22:14
fokatSquonk spoke yesterday with someone about updating the user profile on each login22:14
fokatI have the patch ready.22:14
@preactionfokat: if it's a new feature, you should post it to the RFE board: http://webgui.org/rfe23:02
@preactionif it needs to be tested (anything non-GUI needs to be tested), or internationalized, that will have to be done before it can go into the core23:03
@preactionotherwise, if it's all i18ned and templated and tested, if it gets approved it'll go right in23:04
fokatpreaction: Thanks. Will do that23:08
@preactionbut yeah, post it there and we'll help you get it in23:09
fokatpreaction: Done. RFE #1123023:15
fokatAlso attached the patch23:16
daviddelikatpreaction: is it possible to get WG to put a stack dump in the log when an error occurs?23:18
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@preactiondaviddelikat: add %T to the Pattern in the log.conf00:44
@preactionsee the dogs for Log::Log4Perl00:44
daviddelikatthanks00:44
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SquOnkGreetings18:33
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elninoneed a pointer...client would like to have nightly builds posted to website...03:33
elninois that a workflow? activity? system cron with a macro displaying files?03:33
elninobrb in 45 minutes03:35
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* elnino reads dev book for ideas04:28
@preactionelnino: do you need webgui to build it?04:28
@preactionor is it already built? is there an RSS feed with the build reports maybe?04:28
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elninopreaction. no. webgui doesn't need to build it. it's already built. webgui has a fileimport utility script that will work well I believe.04:55
elninois there a way to just list all the entries in the bazaar?04:59
+perlDreamernot yet04:59
+perlDreamerYou haven't written that RFE yet04:59
+perlDreamer:)04:59
elnino=)04:59
+perlDreamerI'm working on an RFE that will change the face of WebGUI and affect the whole world05:00
elninoI like tagging and all, but I don't like how OTHERs tag things.05:00
elninosounds serious.05:00
+perlDreamerIt is.05:00
+perlDreamerI'm getting JT to shave05:00
elninolol05:00
+perlDreamerno, seriously05:00
+perlDreamerI'm adding the option to pick a language from the site starter05:00
elninoah. nice.05:01
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elninohmm. where are the system reuirements stated in the wiki? searching for "requirements" only comes up with LDAP05:43
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+perlDreamertry searching for memory05:53
elninonope05:53
+perlDreamerfokat, do you have any questions about my RFE feedback?05:54
elninoI mean, nope, no reults. =(05:54
+perlDreamertable of contents?05:54
+perlDreamermaybe we don't have one yet?05:54
+perlDreamerhttp://www.webgui.org/community-wiki/system-requirements05:56
elninook. why didn't http://www.webgui.org/community-wiki/system-requirements come up by searching "requirement"? - I have nothign but problems with wiki searchs05:56
elninofound it too. =)05:56
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daviddelikat1getting ready to push EMS submissions mach 206:06
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daviddelikat1perlDreamer: I have two test modules that are failing due to 'bad plan'06:28
daviddelikat1USPSInternational and Spectre/Workflow06:29
+perlDreamerhm06:29
daviddelikat1any suggestions?06:29
+perlDreameryes.06:29
+perlDreamerplease paste me some output06:29
daviddelikat1do you want verbose?06:30
+perlDreamerdefinitely06:30
+perlDreamerbut only for those two tests06:30
daviddelikat1and whats that command to send nopaste to gist?06:30
daviddelikat1of course06:30
+perlDreamernopaste -S gist06:30
daviddelikat1I get an error from nopaste, I'll just use the default...06:31
daviddelikat1oops, gotta redirect stderr... I'll get it eventlually06:32
daviddelikat1http://pastie.org/70056206:32
+perlDreamerit would be easier if you just signed up for a dev key from the USPS06:32
daviddelikat1theoretically...06:33
+perlDreamerokay, USPSInternational fixed06:33
+perlDreamerSpectre/Workflow is an awful test06:33
+perlDreamerif spectre is running, it will fail06:33
+perlDreamerI'm probably going to remove it06:33
daviddelikat1there is a skip that says 8 when there are only 7 tests06:33
daviddelikat1just needs to have the skip and the plan fixed06:34
daviddelikat1you want me to change it?06:34
+perlDreameryeah!06:34
daviddelikat1done06:34
CIA-49webgui: Colin Kuskie master * rd14fcd9 / t/Shop/ShipDriver/USPSInternational.t : Fix test plan for SKIPS. - http://bit.ly/4ueYPG06:34
elninoas far as templates go, h1 in styles, h2 layouts h3 assets. Is that still correct? anyone know?  when did that start?06:35
+perlDreamerit started in 7.7.1506:36
+perlDreamerand that sounds correct, elnino06:36
+perlDreamerthe Template Working Group forum is the place to check for that06:36
+perlDreamerand hopefully, some wiki pages, too06:37
+perlDreamerTemplate Best Working Practices?06:37
CIA-49webgui: daviddelikat master * r7f6c24e / (10 files in 6 dirs): rather a lot of debugging in the EMS Submission system - http://bit.ly/3w1s0m06:37
daviddelikat1thar she blows!06:37
CIA-49webgui: daviddelikat master * r4278058 / (30 files in 19 dirs): Merge branch 'master' of git@github.com:plainblack/webgui - http://bit.ly/1seGNy06:37
CIA-49webgui: daviddelikat master * r26ef90d / t/Shop/ShipDriver/USPSInternational.t : Merge branch 'master' of git@github.com:plainblack/webgui - http://bit.ly/1BMybq06:37
CIA-49webgui: daviddelikat master * r9dd7056 / (t/Asset/EMSSubmissionForm.t t/Spectre/Workflow.t): fixed tests - http://bit.ly/31j77q06:37
+perlDreamernice :)06:37
+perlDreameralthough, Spectre/Workflow.t tests should be backported to webgui_7.706:38
+perlDreamerwith that commit structure, that'll have to be done by hand06:38
daviddelikat1I should be able to checkout webgui_7.7 and fix it right?06:38
+perlDreameryes06:38
daviddelikat1I'll get it right now06:38
+perlDreamercreate a branch of origin/webgui_7.7 to work in06:38
+perlDreamerjust like you would master06:38
daviddelikat1( otherwise it could have bene cherry picked...06:39
daviddelikat1right ? )06:39
+perlDreameryes06:39
+perlDreamerI make lots of and lots of small commits now06:39
+perlDreamerbecause it's easier to do multiple cherry picks than to duplicate work by hand06:39
daviddelikat1I've been trying to remember to do that too06:39
daviddelikat1takes a whilel to break old habts06:39
daviddelikat1do I need to pull anything special to get that branch?06:41
+perlDreamerwhen you make the branch, you should need to do a pull to populate it06:41
+perlDreamergit checkout --track -b webgui_7.7 origin/webgui_7.706:41
+perlDreamerI think that's the right command06:41
+perlDreamerthat will create the branch and put you into it06:42
+perlDreamerthen do a git pull06:42
+perlDreamerand you should be good to go06:42
daviddelikat1it says fatal: ... update path is incomplete06:43
daviddelikat1did you intend to checkout 'orgin/webgui_7.7'' which cannot be resolved as a commit?06:44
daviddelikat1sorry I had to type it all in, no copy paste from vnc06:44
elninothanks perlDreamer.06:46
@preactionremotes/origin/webgui_7.706:46
daviddelikat1same thing06:47
daviddelikat1http://pastie.org/70057606:47
daviddelikat1perhaps I need to do something else before I can do the checkout...06:49
daviddelikat1perlDreamer: you probably could cherrypick that commit to 7.7 there are only two files in it and one of them won't exist in the 7.7 branch.06:54
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* perlDreamer will do the right thing07:55
+perlDreamerbut we need to get you setup for both branches07:55
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CIA-49webgui: Yung Han Khoe master * r8a978e6 / lib/WebGUI/Asset/Wobject/Thingy/ThingRecord.pm : Separating ThingRecord object from Thingy - http://bit.ly/3Bafee12:51
CIA-49webgui: Yung Han Khoe master * r7188b11 / (12 files in 8 dirs): Merge branch 'master' of git@github.com:plainblack/webgui - http://bit.ly/1spfdh12:51
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SquOnkGreetings15:38
+BartJolhi15:40
carograygoodday guys - where in settings does on turn  captcha for sending emails from the website on?15:43
+BartJolwhat kind of e-mails?15:44
+BartJoli mean wherefrom?15:45
+BartJolnot everything can have a captcha afaik15:45
carograywhen people are using our contact us form and replying to us, OR, sending emails to someone else.15:45
carograyI had it turned on before, but it wasn't working - didn't hav etime to describe what wasn't working to PB so turned it back off again15:46
carograynow I can't figure out how to turn it on, to remember what the problem was to see if it's me or WG15:46
carograyI can only find the one captcha image in authentication  tab in settings15:46
carograyrecaptcha in UI tab seems to be something different15:47
carograylooks interesting but I don't have time to get distracted15:47
carograyoh duh!15:48
carograyI just didn't look at the abottom of the form15:48
+BartJol:), sorry, i was in a short meating, but is it ok now?15:49
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+BartJolcarogray: you are ok on this?15:57
carograyoh yeah - sometimes I am just so thick...got caught up with an office mate stopping by, always happens when I come IN to work.16:04
carograydo you have to do anything to your templates if you have captcha for visitors turned on?16:05
+BartJolnormally not16:06
+BartJolfor default templatesa16:06
+BartJolif think there is something like <tmpl_if ifCapcha><tmpl_var captcha></tmpl_if> in it16:07
carograyoh - right ok.16:09
carograymakes sense. I am just trying to do everything in hurry today.16:09
carograythanks16:09
+BartJol np16:10
SDuensinMorning.16:14
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+BartJolthankfully, I'm back to hating IE again16:19
SDuensinHehehe16:21
SDuensinYou gave it up for awhile?16:22
+BartJolyeah, with the developer tools and tabbed browsing, quite w3c compliantcy it didn't seem that bad anymore16:22
+BartJolbut a pop up blocker that you just can't turn off is terrible, even select menu's don'y open16:23
+BartJolreinstalling now...16:41
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carograyin the ^international macro - how can I change the language that says "Verify your humanity"?16:56
+BartJolas far as I can see the language cannot be passed on as a parameter to the macro16:58
+BartJolcarogray: from the code:16:59
+BartJolNote that a particular language cannot be specified.  It uses either the16:59
+BartJolcurrent User's setting or the default language for the site.  English is16:59
+BartJolalways used as a fallback.16:59
+BartJolso instead of the macro, you can change it to just text17:01
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+BartJolbut then that is "hardcoded"17:01
+BartJolbut if you pass on the language, the same would happen17:01
+BartJolcool, a bsod17:04
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+BartJolcarogray: is that enough answer?17:17
carograypeople keep stoppping by... sorry17:18
carograyso I can simply replace the whole macro - it seems to have two arguments with the text I want people to read?17:18
+BartJoli'm jsut bugging, because I had to restart my windows computer for the4th time17:18
+BartJolyes, it's the label and namespace17:19
carograyterrific - I suspected but wasn't sure if it was also related to the image and the box to type image letters into. what's Dutch for "wunderbar"?17:19
+BartJolit refers to a file and a tag in the file17:19
+BartJolwonderbaarlijk17:20
+BartJolit shouldn't17:20
carograyok , then that;-) thanks again.17:20
+BartJolwell, ie works now17:21
+BartJolso I can get back to work17:21
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+perlDreamerwhoa17:32
+perlDreamernew thingy code17:32
+BartJolyeah, yung has been busy17:33
+perlDreamerlet's see how the test suite survived the changes17:35
+perlDreamerBartJol, did you see that I coded up the language choice RFE?17:35
+BartJolyeah, great!17:36
+BartJolbut I've been struggling witj IE the whole afternoon17:36
+BartJolbut I'll try a new install17:36
+BartJolsoon17:37
+perlDreamerIE17:38
* perlDreamer shudders17:38
+BartJolyeah, had to reinstall it, 4 reboots and 1 bsod17:38
+BartJolbut now it opens drop down menu's....17:38
+BartJolit's fantastic17:38
+BartJoland if you don't see the sarcasm dropping from that remark, you need an eye-doctor17:39
SquOnkBartJol: It will soon drop dead menus <g>17:39
+BartJolI expect anything now17:40
SquOnkBartJol: Expect the unexpected17:40
SquOnkFavorite quote from "Kentucky Fried Movie"17:41
+BartJolI like "With a bit of luck, his life was ruined forever, always thinking that behind some narrow doors in all his favourite bars, men in red woolen shirts are getting incredible kicks of things he'll never know" from fear and loathing in las vegas17:43
+BartJoland I don't need a text reference17:43
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@Haargmorning patspam17:53
+patspamhey graham17:53
+patspamhow you doin?17:54
@Haargwell enough.  still trying to wake up.17:54
+patspamheh i feel you17:55
+patspamtoday I'm house hunting17:56
+patspamtime to move off long island and into nyc17:56
+perlDreamermake sure it's season, and that you have a license, patspam17:58
+perlDreamerprosecution for poaching in New York has big fines17:58
+patspami heard they cut off your left hand?17:58
+perlDreamerthat's just for theft17:58
+patspamhey are you using ubuntu now perlDreamer?18:00
+perlDreamernot yet18:00
+patspamI just discovered Gnome Do18:00
+patspamfreaking awesome.. i think OSX has something similar?18:01
* perlDreamer asks Google about Gnome Do18:01
+patspamit sort of combines the best of command line expressiveness with gui sexiness18:02
+patspamespecially if you turn on the "docky" theme18:02
SDuensinDo looks cool.  Also looks frighteningly like Yahoo desktop widgets.18:07
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@HaargperlDreamer, i'm considering adding something like this http://gist.github.com/23609018:20
@Haargright now, the default message for errors in many cases doesn't include much (or sometimes any) information18:21
+perlDreamerit looks like a serializer18:22
+perlDreamerLooks good to me18:22
+perlDreameris the Fields method defined somewhere?18:23
+perlDreamerI don't see it in the Exception::Class docs18:24
@HaargException::Class::Base18:24
@Haargas an example, lib/WebGUI/Asset.pm line 1268 does WebGUI::Error::ObjectNotFound->throw(id => $assetId)18:24
@Haargwhen stringified, that currently becomes ""18:24
@Haargwhich is less than helpful18:24
+perlDreamerdefinitely18:30
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CIA-49webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.7 * rfaa176d / docs/credits.txt : Give Dale credit for LDAP patches. - http://bit.ly/4ygAIa18:40
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+BartJolhey18:48
dreamersgirlNice pics, BartJol!18:51
+BartJoldreamersgirl: I hope you understand that more tiles to a wall eq better and newer18:51
+BartJolin the beginning it was the other way18:51
dreamersgirlI like the patterns.18:54
+BartJolyeah, it took some thought, and thankfully my father is really interested in architecture and drawing18:56
+BartJolso he helped on the interval of the tiles18:56
+BartJolto get extra 3d effect18:56
+BartJolperlDreamer:  is there somewhere I can check your code?18:58
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+perlDreamerI can paste a patch, but JT hasn't given the go-ahead to commit yet18:58
dreamersgirlforget the code.  you should see his pics!  :)18:59
+perlDreamerwhere are they?18:59
+perlDreamerhttp://gist.github.com/23613318:59
+BartJolthey're onhttp://www.bartjol.nl/home/fotoalbums/fortos/klus2009111618:59
+BartJoland you get to see my father19:02
+perlDreameryou have his hair :)19:02
dreamersgirlwho's the other guy?19:02
+BartJolArnoud and Sjoerd, freinds of mine19:03
+BartJolSjoerd is the guy in the blue shirt, cleaning the tiles19:03
+BartJolperlDreamer: thanks...19:04
dreamersgirlcool.  nice to have help on projects like that!19:04
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+BartJolyeah, tiling is a two men job (maybe not if you're a real pro)19:05
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+perlDreamerman the i18n RFE has tons of karma on it19:05
+BartJolyeah, I throwed some around19:06
PCCCgood afternoon webgui people can anybody help me on a Authorization Required error19:06
+BartJolif you want to do something else, spend all yours on another rfe19:06
+BartJolsure pcc19:06
+BartJolc19:06
+perlDreameryou could throw some more if you committed your tests, BartJol :)19:06
+BartJolyeah yeah, I know19:07
PCCCthe file is set view everyone19:07
+BartJolPCCC: how did the file get there?19:07
PCCCmoved from another webgui dump19:07
PCCCi'll tell you my story19:08
+BartJolstart at your birth :P19:08
+BartJolsorry19:08
+BartJolplease do19:08
PCCClol well somebody here setup a webgui server super wrong, and put it live, the server had all sort of dns error and spectre, so i took the data (upload folder) and a sql dump and create a new webgui server i change the chown -Rf webgui:webgui to the upload folder19:09
+BartJolvery good19:10
+BartJolthat would be necessary19:10
PCCCi cant' take the conf files because they are poiting to the wrong paths19:10
+BartJoland you can use that file?19:10
PCCCif i login to the admin , all my files work fine19:11
+BartJolok, so as admin on the site, it is ok, as other user it is not19:13
PCCCcorrect19:13
+BartJolwell, it doesn't sound like a problem on the filesystem19:14
PCCCboth server are on the same version of webgui19:14
PCCCcould it be the www.sitename.conf file?19:15
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BartJol1aoops19:16
BartJol1network cable must be in computer19:16
BartJol1and you did say that security settin was set to visible for everyone19:16
PCCClol19:16
PCCCyes19:17
BartJol1do you have anything in your error log?19:17
PCCCwebgui.log doesn't show any errors regarding that 19:18
BartJol1perlDreamer: code looks nice19:18
+perlDreamerthanks, BartJo1 :)19:18
PCCCi have some rss issues but that's it19:18
BartJol1PCCC: modproxy/modperl error logs?19:19
PCCCmodproxy is clean19:19
PCCCmodperl linux ::smaps errors19:20
BartJol1mmm, that could be something19:21
@Haargrm /data/wre/prereqs/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.10.0/Linux/Smaps.pm19:21
BartJol1never seen those errors though19:21
BartJol1is it deprecated? or buggy?19:22
@HaargLinux::Smaps is a module that should allow modperl to measure its own memory more accurately but it is broken on red hat kernels19:22
BartJol1ah19:22
PCCCpermission denied smaps19:22
BartJol1that's why I haven't seen it, with debian/ubuntu19:22
BartJol1just throw a sudo into it19:23
BartJol1who doesn't want to listen, must feel19:23
PCCCu want me rm /data/wre/prereqs/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.10.0/Linux/Smaps.pm?19:23
BartJol1yes19:23
@Haargyes19:23
BartJol1are you on a redhattish system?19:24
PCCCdone19:24
@Haargthen restart modperl19:24
PCCCit's the vm that webgui provides19:24
@Haargwhich is centos19:24
PCCC5.219:24
@Haargthe smaps problem is something we'll be fixing in future releases19:24
@Haargi haven't been following the whole conversation so i don't know if that is related to whatever your earlier problem was19:25
+perlDreamerit's not likely19:25
+perlDreamerit's permissions problems with an uploaded file19:25
BartJol1he can't enter files as another user than admins19:25
BartJol1more delicated stated by mister Kuskie19:26
BartJol1delicate just isn't my middle name19:26
PCCCok BartJol1  no more smaps errors19:26
BartJol1nice19:27
+perlDreamerto upload files, you have to have editing permission to the page where you want to upload them19:27
BartJol1and file access?19:27
+perlDreamerfor viewing files, that's a different story altogether19:27
BartJol1you need view permissions?19:27
PCCCthis file is a picture for my public web19:28
+perlDreamerand you can't upload it, or you can't view it?19:28
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PCCCi can view the picture in the asset manager , it's there but when log of its doesn't come in my layout19:29
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BartJol1and if you go directly to the url of the picture?19:30
PCCCbefore the guy that set it up said that he has seen this issue and he fixed it by bringing the old config files from another sever i guess to the one he set up (which sucks)19:30
PCCCwhen i go directly i get the authorization required error19:31
+perlDreamerand if you are logged in, and you go to the URL of the picture, it works fine19:32
PCCCcorrect19:32
+perlDreamerif you are logged in as some other user who is not admin, can you see the picture at that URL?19:33
PCCCi checked both www.siten.conf files and they look the same except for the thingy part19:33
BartJol1that is what i understand, with no errors in the log19:33
PCCCi have no idea what it could be, the file system has the correct rights19:38
BartJol1and the chmod is also correct?19:39
BartJol1the modus i mean?19:39
PCCCi did chown no chmod19:39
BartJol1I know19:39
BartJol1I don't know whether that matters19:39
+perlDreamerin the filesystem, apache is always the same user19:39
+perlDreamerso it won't matter19:39
+perlDreamerbut...19:39
BartJol1ok19:39
+perlDreamerin the upload area, there could be a small file called19:40
+perlDreamer.wgaccess19:40
+perlDreamerthat contains WebGUI permissions19:40
+perlDreamerif it is set wrongly, and apache cannot update it19:40
+perlDreameryou could see the problem that you are having19:40
PCCCi m doing a search for .wgaccess and i found 5 of them inside differente folder inside the upload folder19:42
+perlDreamercheck file level permissions on them19:42
PCCCrw-r--r webgui19:43
PCCCbecause i did a chwon -Rf webgui:webgui uploads19:44
BartJol1have to go now, good luck19:44
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+perlDreamerPCCC, next thing to do is check the contents19:46
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+perlDreamerdrat, he just missed it19:46
PCCCby the content you mean the actual picture?19:48
+perlDreamerthe contents of the .wgaccess file19:48
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PCCCperlDreamer am i supposed to have .wgaccess files in all my folders or can i just delete them?19:57
+perlDreamerthey denote files with special access privileges19:58
+perlDreamerso I would not delete them19:58
PCCCok19:58
+perlDreamerwhat you want to do is see if the file you uploaded has a .wgaccess file in it, and if so, to find the permissions that are stored in it19:59
PCCCi checked the folder and it doesnt contain a .wgaccess file on the folder 20:00
+perlDreamerHave you cleared the Cache in WebGUI, and Temporary Internet Files on your browser?20:02
PCCCyes sir, using 3 different pcs to test20:02
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PCCCim looking at my modproxy config and i see a difference in "dial with port number in http_host20:03
+perlDreamerand when you get the error message in your browser, what is the exact error message?20:03
PCCCthat section is not on my new config 20:04
@Haargcan you post your site's modproxy config on http://webgui.pastebin.com ?20:05
PCCChttp://webgui.pastebin.com/m19a2a5fe20:07
@Haargthat all looks correct to me20:10
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@preactiondamnit. so my idea to keep tabs, fields, and fieldsets seperate in the new FormBuilder won't work21:17
@preactionhow do you get a button on both the top and bottom? for example21:18
@preactiona captcha on the bottom and a normal keyword field on top?21:18
@preactionit's like i need a way to put all the objects into a single array21:19
@preactionfields, fieldsets, and tabsets21:20
+perlDreameryou're saying they need to interrelate21:21
@preactionnot sure what interrelate means, but i need to do this:21:22
@preaction[ WebGUI::Form::Text, WebGUI::FormBuilder::Fieldset, WebGUI::Form::Submit ]21:22
+perlDreameryes, they're related by sequence21:23
@preactioni could just keep tabs somewhere special (either top or bottom, based on a configuration)21:23
@preactionor I could make a Tabset object as well21:23
@preactionthen you could have two tabsets each containing 3 tabs with a fieldset between them21:24
@preactionduh. the ordering can all be done in the template21:31
@preactionbut tabsets may still be a good idear21:32
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PCCCquestion can anybody explain why would my modproxy would stop working after a mysql import22:26
@preactionbecause it can't connect to modperl?22:31
PCCCbut all of the sudden, it was working fine 10 min ago22:33
@preactionbut immediately after a mysql import it stopped working?22:34
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PCCCyes22:39
PCCCas soon as i do the import i get "an error has occurred" and i try  to restart the servvices and they don't work22:40
PCCCmodproxy and modperl22:40
@preactionwhat says "an error has occurred", and what is a mysql import? are you trying to restore WebGUI from a backup?22:41
PCCChowever when i bring an older backup copy of the same database it works22:41
PCCCwell i m porting the files from another server to a new host22:41
@preactionwhat says "an error has occurred"? what is the full error message exactly? what is the command you are running exactly?22:42
PCCCmysql -u root -p database < sql dump file22:43
@preactionyou named your file "sql dump file"?22:44
ckotiljust sql22:57
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elninohi. I have fedora 2.6.30.9-96.fc11.i686.PAE installed, whiich wre do I use? rhel 5,4, or 3?23:35
+perlDreamer523:38
+perlDreamerwell...23:38
+perlDreameryeah, 523:38
elninohow do you find that out?23:38
+perlDreamerRHEL is based on Fedora23:39
+perlDreamerthe latest centos is 523:39
elninoright23:39
elninocentos?23:40
+perlDreamerCentOS is RHEL recompiled without branding23:40
elninowhoops. I though fedora was based on redhat.23:41
ckotilit is.23:42
ckotiloh , vice versa. :x23:43
elninowell, what kernal does rhel 5 have?23:44
elninois it 2.6?23:44
ckotilyes.23:45
elninook. so I do want 5. thanks ckotil and perlDreamer23:46
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+perlDreamerI'm off to pick up the boys from school.00:01
+perlDreamerIf all goes well, WebGUI 7.8.5 will be the first WebGUI shipped with language packs.00:02
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topsubif i build a site in webgui. Can it change lang on the fly? Is anything like that built?00:08
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topsubOr waht would be the best way to handle that?00:10
elninotopsub. the content needs to be translated, so you'll have a site for each language.00:11
elninoand there are some things on the bazaar that may help a user to switch between languages00:11
elninoOR00:11
elninoif you are talking about webgui's admin interface, apparantly there is translations that can be changed on the fly.00:12
elninobut back to the bilingual content,00:12
topsubJust the frontend00:12
topsubWe have a client that would like a site in spanish and english00:12
elninoyou can have "multiple" sites by having multiple "roots"00:12
elninothen I'd do multiple roots.00:12
elninoroot for english, and a root for spanish. - each being their own "site" whose content has been translated.00:13
elninoI had a site that had 18 languages each with their own root. 00:14
elninodesign stays the same that way.00:14
elninoand as far as translating the navigation assets, I had a macro pulling in the correct one based on what root the visitor was visiting.00:14
elninoscratch that.. I had to do that for a nother reason. You shouldn't have to do that.  =)00:15
topsubah00:25
elninohope that makes sense AND helps.00:26
topsubyes it does00:26
topsubclient only wants certain pagesi n spanish00:26
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+perlDreamertopsub, some i18n tools for doing that were just added to 7.800:31
+perlDreamerand there is some stuff in the Bazaar you should look at00:31
topsubperfect, i'm making notes now, will take a look00:32
+perlDreamertopsub, this one in particular: http://www.webgui.org/bazaar/languagepageswitch00:34
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+perlDreamerstarting in WebGUI 7.8.5, WebGUI will ship with the Spanish translation for the front end, and have a macro that lets users change their language on the fly00:35
topsubnice! we need a way if we are logged into "bookmark" addons, like on themeforest00:35
topsubthemeforest.net00:35
+perlDreamerI think there's a wG bookmarks RFE.00:36
topsubis 7.8 coming out soon?00:39
+perlDreamerwe have 7.8 releases every other week00:40
+perlDreamer7.8.5 is out tomorrow00:40
topsubliek stable release?00:40
+perlDreamerstable is in a few weeks, I believe00:40
+perlDreamerif I can close the bug list out, sooner00:41
topsubah00:41
topsubwill we be able to upgrade from 7.7 up to 7.8?00:41
topsubI'm making a new server00:41
+perlDreamerthere will be a way to upgrade from 7.7 to 7.800:41
+perlDreameras always00:41
topsubif i remember isn't there going to have a complete rewrite were we can't upgrade i thought00:41
topsubcode changes and such00:42
@preactiontopsub: yes. that's WebGUI 8. and it will be mostly upgradable, the problem will only be if you've written custom code00:52
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+perlDreamerit will be like wG 6, but smaller in scope.00:53
+perlDreamerand with tests to back it up00:55
+perlDreamerand a fixed schedule00:55
+perlDreamerthe big goal is wG8 is performance01:04
+perlDreamerI think if you check out JT's blog there's a link in there to his keynote from WUC 2k901:05
topsubnice01:08
topsubheading home bbl01:08
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+perlDreamerpreaction: did you add downloadable MIME types to the SQL Report, back in the day?02:18
@preactionyeah, all that download stuff is mine02:18
+perlDreamera bug was filed about macro processing in the download via template02:19
+perlDreamerwas there ever any intent to bypass macro processing in that code, by a particular mime type?02:20
+perlDreamerI'm stuck between adding an option to process macros in the template, and just processing them if a template is used.02:20
+perlDreamerthe change to Session->output->print changed the default behavior02:22
CIA-49webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r67c66c8 / lib/WebGUI/Asset/Wobject/Thingy/ThingRecord.pm : Remove deprecated use of defined() on hashes. - http://bit.ly/1HV31q02:28
CIA-49webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r01e873e / (2 files in 2 dirs): i18n the download type choices in the SQL Report. - http://bit.ly/4oyqzl02:29
CIA-49webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.7 * re7fd10b / (2 files in 2 dirs): i18n the download type choices in the SQL Report. - http://bit.ly/25CyfW02:29
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@preactionperlDreamer: i would say just process macros, it wasn't my intent to bypass them (it was the very first code i wrote for webgui)02:39
+perlDreamerokay02:39
+perlDreamerright after I uncuddle your else's02:39
CIA-49webgui: Colin Kuskie master * rc8bda63 / t/Asset/Wobject/SQLReport.t : Test maintenance. - http://bit.ly/37WN6903:02
CIA-49webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.7 * r376ae82 / t/Asset/Wobject/SQLReport.t : Test maintenance. - http://bit.ly/ztwMZ03:02
CIA-49webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r110a236 / (2 files in 2 dirs): When using a download template, macros are always processed in the output. fixes bug #11242. - http://bit.ly/4Fzlve03:02
CIA-49webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.7 * rbb58ce3 / (2 files in 2 dirs): When using a download template, macros are always processed in the output. fixes bug #11242. - http://bit.ly/2vEkei03:02
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* perlDreamer heads off to fix dinner03:07
elninohi. someone here helped me access the wreconsole using ssh or something,  is that someone here?03:08
elninoit was like some redirect using putty or something.03:11
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elninoor perhaps there is a way to setup webgui/wre without using the wreconsole during installation. I can't seem to get thru to 6083403:16
+perlDreamerhave you checked the wiki?03:22
+perlDreameror checked the logs?03:22
elninoI dont' know what to search for... 03:22
+perlDreamerWRE setup installation03:22
elninoand I have an bug report on the wiki search =)03:22
elninooh. no that page doesn't have anything about the redirect.03:22
elninosomeone here had helped me access the console without having to muck with port 60834. 03:23
elninoif I remembe correctly, it was using putty and redirecting something or ???03:24
elninoit was way over my head, but it worked really nice.03:24
+perlDreamermaybe using port forwarding...?03:25
elninoyes, that.03:26
+perlDreamerare you sure you talked about it in channel?03:26
elninoLONG ago.03:26
+perlDreamertry here: http://mentalhouse.net/irc/logs/webgui/2009-03.log03:26
elninoyep. that's me!!03:27
elninothanks!03:27
+perlDreamerplease wiki that?03:28
+perlDreamerthe problem and solution?03:28
elninoabsolutely. I was planning on it.03:28
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elninoit worked! I'll write a wiki later tonight.04:11
CIA-49webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r5bf3e44 / (3 files in 3 dirs): Accept time zones with spaces or underscores to help users. - http://bit.ly/1TDEPl04:32
CIA-49webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.7 * re4072f1 / (3 files in 3 dirs): Accept time zones with spaces or underscores to help users. - http://bit.ly/10Xxgv04:32
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elninogrr..05:03
elninoin 7.6 something,  I created a package with many children and I'm importing it to 7.7.26. and I'm losing all the children except for one. 05:05
elninoin the webgui log, I'm getting: Couldn't compile asset package: WebGUI::Asset::RSSFromParent.05:06
+perlDreamerRSSFromParent doesn't exist in 7.705:08
+perlDreamerthe thing to do is to upgrade the 7.6 site to the point where RSSFromParent was removed05:08
+perlDreamerand then make the package05:08
elninomy articles and redirects were deleted as well.05:09
elninoI checked the system clipboard too.05:09
elninoI also opened up the package and everything is in there.05:11
+perlDreamerelnino, is that on the originating site, or the importing site?05:12
elninothe file generated from the originating site has the appropriate contents (opened it with tar)05:13
elninowhen I import it, th eonly thing that gets imported is the parent (page layout) and one child (CS asset)05:13
elninoredirects and article assets are gone.05:13
* perlDreamer reiterates the original advice.05:13
elninoI have two packages like this. both failed the same way.05:13
+perlDreamerthe CS is not being fully imported05:13
elninoI'm scared of 7.7.  =)05:14
+perlDreamerbecause of the old, deprecated RssFromParent asset05:14
+perlDreameryou could also try turning off the RSS Feed for the CS, and then turning it back on in 7.705:14
elninothe cs imported fine. (execpt fothe rss parent) There were no threads to begin with. So I don't know if they would have owrkd or not.05:14
+perlDreamerturn it off in 7.6, export, import to 7.7, turn it back on05:15
elninoturn off the rss parent?05:15
elninook.05:15
+perlDreamerin old 7.6, you can tell the CS whether or not you want to use RSS05:16
elninoyep05:16
+perlDreamerif you turn it off, it should delete the RssFromParent05:16
elninodid navigationi assets change much?05:16
+perlDreamerno05:16
elninothat did it.  the rss feed must of crapped out enough to prevent everything else from working.05:20
elninois that going to be a problem when I upgrade my sites to 7.7?05:22
+perlDreamerno, only if you port packages from old RSS to new RSS05:31
+perlDreameran exported package doesn't go through the upgrade process05:31
+perlDreamerelnino: is there really an awstats workflow, or is it the send stats workflow?05:38
elninoSorry. I meant the send stats worksflow.05:38
elninoI don't know if that request is possible.05:39
elninobecause Idon't know if you know if awstats is configured or not.05:39
elninoa brand new site, and I hosed it. grr.05:39
elninoI can go to the asset manager for /home, but when I try to view it I get a An error was encountered while processing your request.05:41
+perlDreamerit's not awstats, it's WebGUI Stats05:41
+perlDreamerreset the site from create.sql?05:42
elninooh. what is webgui stats?05:43
+perlDreamerIt's a way to help the WebGUI developers know what all is being used in WebGUI05:45
+perlDreamerit sends back the size of your site (users, groups, pages) which assets are being used, which macros are being used, stuff like that05:45
+perlDreamerjust statistical data05:46
elninooh. well, I said no to that, but the workflow was set to yes. 05:46
+perlDreamerthe workflow is enabled, but the cron job that calls the workflow to send the data was never created.05:47
+perlDreamerremember, workflows have to have a trigger05:47
elninoyou mean, activity.05:49
elninoright?05:49
+perlDreamerNo, workflows05:50
elnino'cron job' = 'activity', right?05:50
elninogrr. No, *I* meant. under the scheduler.05:52
elninonot activity. Iknow what an activity is.05:52
+perlDreamersorry, elnino.  I hate debating semantics.05:53
elninoNo, I'm sorry. I'm not trying to debate. I just want to make sure I'm understanding correctly. 05:54
+perlDreamerThe bottom line is that it was confusing that you said "No" to Statistics, but saw that the Workflow was enabled.05:56
elninoyes.05:56
elninolooking in the advisories, what is the new way to access the rss feed now?06:23
+perlDreameryou append ?func=viewRss to the URL06:31
elninonothign i nthe wikis either. But I'll put it there. Thanks06:31
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CIA-49webgui: Colin Kuskie master * ra63dfa3 / docs/upgrades/packages-7.8.5/style_03.wgpkg : Fix a typo in the updated style03 template. - http://bit.ly/hzBZl07:42
elninowill having perl and wre's perl installed on the same machine be a problem?07:59
+perlDreamernope08:00
+perlDreamerjust be sure you always do a setenvironment.sh08:01
+perlDreamerexcept!08:01
+perlDreameron RHEL/CentOS, if you do setenvironment.sh, you won't be able to use yum08:01
+perlDreamerso be careful about putting setenvironment.sh into root's .bashrc08:01
+perlDreameror .profile08:01
+perlDreamerI created an alias called wreme08:01
+perlDreamerso that normally I'm in the system08:01
+perlDreamerand after I wreme, I'm in the WRE08:02
elninoso removing the systme's perl and using wre's perl exclusive probably isn't a good idea on fedora. I was thinking of removing it, and then creating softlinks to perl ,perl5.10.0 ,perlbug, and perldoc  to /data/wre/prereqs/bin's perl stuff08:03
@preactionprobably a bad idea, yeah08:04
elninoyeah, I'll leave it.08:04
+perlDreamerbinary compatibility08:04
@preactionthe WRE's perl is compiled with different libs08:04
@preactionin fact, even sourcing in the WRE is a pain sometimes, there have been forum posts about it08:04
@preactionshould make a "wreon" and "wreoff" script, that'd be nice08:05
elninoor.. couldn't we just have a wre user?08:05
elninorather than running as root?08:06
@preactionthe WRE already runs as the user "webgui", but you don't want that user to have a login shell08:06
@preactionyou could do as perldreamer has done, and "wreoff" would be as simple as "reset"08:06
+perlDreamerreset?08:06
@preactionreset clears your environment and loads it from profile08:07
+perlDreamernice08:07
@preactionso like if you even kill -9 screen, you can type "reset" and fix the lack of scrolling08:07
* elnino go looks08:07
elninocool!08:07
+perlDreamerpreaction, do you see any problems with changing Workflow Save to return you to the list of Workflows, instead of back to the Edit Workflow screen?08:08
+perlDreamerit was pointed out that it's not consistent with other screens08:08
@preactionkinda, you have to save the workflow before you can add activities to it08:09
@preactionwhat it needs is a nice javascript update08:09
@preactionif you don't save the workflow before you add activities, you lose the changes to the name/description stuff08:09
+perlDreamerI'll move that over into the RFE section, then.08:09
+perlDreameryou said _that word_08:10
elninowell, you could have the workflow ask you the question: where do you want to go next? and either go back to the list, or add an activies. Kinda like dataform.08:10
CIA-49webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r0103cba / (docs/changelog/7.x.x.txt lib/WebGUI/Operation/Statistics.pm): Disable the Send Stats workflow, to avoid confusion. Fixes bug #11245 - http://bit.ly/3WSeke08:18
CIA-49webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.7 * rd369899 / (docs/changelog/7.x.x.txt lib/WebGUI/Operation/Statistics.pm): Disable the Send Stats workflow, to avoid confusion. Fixes bug #11245 - http://bit.ly/xNN4v08:18
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SquOnkMorning (VET)14:05
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bartjolmorning SquOnk14:16
SquOnkbartjol: Hoe gaat?14:22
* SquOnk 's dutch is rusty, to say the least ;-)14:22
bartjolit's ok, just css postioning today14:22
bartjolHoe gaat het?is the better way14:23
SquOnkbartjol: Thanks14:23
bartjolwithout "het" you sound like a foreigner14:23
SquOnkbartjol: I was able to understand spoken dutch quite well, but I can't make the gutural noises needed to speak it.14:23
bartjollike what's up without what: Is up?14:24
SquOnkbartjol: And I never spent that much time there to be forced to learn it.14:24
bartjolwell, think off something stuck in th top of your throat, which you want to get out14:25
bartjolif that works, try it more in the middleof your mouth14:25
SquOnkThat's what everyone said ;-)14:26
bartjolwell, unless you're coming back, it's quite useless, except for the one or two odd dutch tourists, or during the wuc14:28
SquOnkYeah14:31
SquOnkI'm fond of languages, so I tried to learn a bit.14:31
SquOnkAnd our business associate over there had lots of fun teaching us in exchange of spanish curse words.14:31
SquOnkHeh14:31
bartjolwe did that with Jesse when he came over from Australia14:32
SquOnkbartjol: We did some extensive linguistic work with our friends Jurgen and Harm over there. I wrote "words" and asked them to pronounce the words as if they were "dutch". The words were chosen so that when spoken as "dutch" they sounded exactly like spanish.14:33
SquOnkbartjol: So they spoke "perfect spanish" withouth knowing what the hell they were saying.14:33
bartjol:)14:34
bartjolwell, have to get back to work14:35
SquOnkbartjol: One more question, if you have the time.14:39
SquOnkMore of a suggestion, I think.14:39
SquOnkWhen you logout from WebGUI, it leaves you in the last page you visited. Is there a way to fix a "go here on logout" page?14:40
SquOnks/fix/set/14:40
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bartjolmm14:42
bartjolnot sure whether there's a default function14:42
SquOnkbartjol: I couldn't find anything, so I guess there's some hacking involved.14:43
bartjolbut the logout link is just a link14:43
SquOnkbartjol: The rationale from my customer is that their Intranet _must_ be entered through the front page, so they want anyone logging out to be redirected to the main page.14:43
bartjolso you can do a href="mypage?op=auth;method=logout14:44
bartjolbut i think that must be on the site, not another webgui install14:44
bartjoland correct syntax14:45
bartjolit will first execute the function, then get the content14:45
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bartjolthat's why you must be on the install, otherwise you'll just get redirected to another site, instead of executing the operation14:46
SquOnkbartjol: Yes, it's going to be in the same WebGUI install.14:46
bartjolwell, no problem there then14:47
SquOnkbartjol: I will try that and see where it gets me.14:47
bartjoli believe it should work14:47
SquOnkbartjol: Thanks!14:47
bartjoland if it's inetrnationalized, use the international macro for the Logout label14:47
bartjolno problem14:47
SquOnkbartjol: I'll let you know if it worked out14:47
bartjolthat'll be nice14:48
bartjolSquOnk: I made a little mistake15:22
bartjolyou need to edit your template of the login toggle15:22
bartjoland make the same adjustment I told you before15:23
SquOnkbartjol: I'm doing that, don't worry.15:23
bartjolok15:23
bartjolsince it is a toggle15:23
SquOnkbartjol: It works as expected. I just hardcoded "^/;?op=auth;method=logout" as the logout URL15:28
bartjolvery nice15:28
SDuensinMorning.15:55
bartjolmogguh15:57
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PCCCmorning16:54
* SDuensin wonders when the fun starts.16:55
PCCCi have a weird case, maybe somebody has the answer, i restoring a sql webgui backup to my server and all services start fine , no error on logs, however i get blank pages, nothing at all, no browser errors16:56
PCCChere is the freaky part when i bring an older sql dump in the same server, it works16:56
PCCCit's just that day, 16:56
PCCCi check the database for errors , all is clean16:57
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bartjolPCCC: and if you read in the db, it actually conatins stuff?17:07
PCCCyes17:07
PCCCit does17:07
bartjoluser passwd combi from conf works for that db17:07
PCCCyes17:07
bartjolso mysql -u"myuser" -p"mypasswd" mydb works17:08
PCCCyes sir17:08
bartjoljust checking, starting at the base17:08
bartjolthinking...17:10
bartjoland bypassing the db by getting a direct object from the uploads dir?17:12
PCCCok i discovered something ,i copy the admin url from another server and pasted in the server that was giving me blanks i am able to get to the admin panel, and all my data is there however nothing shows, an all my layout have a make asset exportable option on17:13
PCCCif i take it off , that link works17:13
bartjolodd17:14
PCCCweird all my layout, and content is the same "make asset exportable " on 17:15
PCCCcan you do that ? recursive like that17:16
bartjolI think that is the default setting17:16
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bartjol| isExportable         | int(11)    | NO   |     | 1        |       |17:17
bartjolso it is default17:18
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PCCCsilly question can webgui go back and restore setting from previous days17:20
@Haargsettings aren't versioned, so no.17:21
bartjolmorning misters17:21
bartjolunless you have a db dump in your backup17:23
bartjolbackups are good practise17:23
PCCCthis is from a backup17:23
bartjoland you have new settings?17:24
PCCCyes, which is weird17:25
bartjolit is17:25
bartjoldid you drop that db correctly first?17:25
PCCCit was done by the backup utility from webgui17:25
bartjolis there a backup restore utility?17:26
PCCCno, just a backup up, but im restoring from there17:26
PCCCbut why would my pages not show17:26
PCCCthe permissions are correct17:26
bartjolok, so that gives you a sql file17:26
bartjoltell me every step you take during restoring17:28
PCCCi took the dump files that webgui backup.pl creates and move them to the server tar them and overwrite then mysql -u user - p password database < dump.sql17:29
bartjolah, first throw the old one away17:29
bartjoldrop comand17:29
bartjolthen create a new db with the same name17:29
bartjolthen import it again with the command you named17:30
PCCCok let me try that17:30
bartjolas mysql user root17:30
PCCCdone, same result17:33
bartjoleverything as root user?17:33
bartjoldarn17:33
PCCCyes root user17:34
bartjolrestarted services?17:35
PCCCyep all starting fine17:36
PCCCno errors on webgui.log17:36
bartjolin /data/WebGUI/etc/log.conf you can set your log level17:36
bartjolset it to debug17:36
bartjol(with capitals)17:37
bartjolretsart modperl17:37
PCCCok17:37
bartjoli dunno what retsart is either, but just do it17:3