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| CIA-53 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * rbd66779 / (4 files): Macro test maintenance, up through Page.t - http://bit.ly/1zdQ0v | 00:52 |
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| CIA-53 | webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.7 * r1c536f9 / lib/WebGUI/Operation/Group.pm : Fix syntax errors in Operation/Group - http://bit.ly/4AEFzQ | 00:52 |
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| CIA-53 | webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.7 * r933598b / (4 files): Macro test maintenance, up through Page.t - http://bit.ly/3WjRFV | 00:52 |
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| CIA-53 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r7154833 / (11 files): Done with Macro test maintenance. - http://bit.ly/2L75aD | 04:01 |
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| CIA-53 | webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.7 * r8ba01ef / (10 files): Done with Macro test maintenance. - http://bit.ly/47LN20 | 04:02 |
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| +perlDreamer | Happy Halloween, fellow Gooey-ians! | 04:06 |
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| +perlDreamer | Gooeyites? | 04:06 |
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| +perlDreamer | hm | 04:06 |
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| topsub | Hey, | 05:05 |
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| topsub | I'm getting http://webgui.pastebin.com/m20b4a95 after i restarted my server and tried to boot everything | 05:05 |
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| topsub | Any idea? | 05:05 |
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| +perlDreamer | Don't restart your server? | 05:05 |
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| topsub | doh! | 05:05 |
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| +perlDreamer | you need to specify a pid file | 05:05 |
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| +perlDreamer | in spectre.conf | 05:05 |
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| +perlDreamer | so that spectre knows where to write the PID file | 05:06 |
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| topsub | but i guess i never had to do that before, why is it showing up now? | 05:06 |
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| +perlDreamer | because it's new :P | 05:06 |
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| topsub | what is a pid? | 05:06 |
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| +perlDreamer | Process ID | 05:06 |
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| +perlDreamer | kind of like httpd.pid | 05:06 |
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| +perlDreamer | mysql.pid | 05:06 |
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| topsub | do i need to just create a blank file and point it to it? | 05:06 |
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| +perlDreamer | spectre now uses a PID file for starting and stopping | 05:06 |
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| +perlDreamer | no, in spectre.conf, you need to tell spectre where to write the PID file that it wants to use | 05:07 |
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| topsub | do we have docs about this so i can catch up on this? haha | 05:07 |
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| +perlDreamer | it's in the gotcha.txt file | 05:07 |
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| topsub | I never upgraded | 05:07 |
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| topsub | ah. i didn't change my file system back | 05:07 |
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| topsub | must have tried to started changing the files | 05:07 |
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| topsub | remember it keep crashing so i left it for now | 05:07 |
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| CIA-53 | webgui: khenn master * r3958a36 / (4 files in 4 dirs): bug fixes: start date is returned in UTC instead of the proper time zone, meta data fields are not properly returned to the template - http://bit.ly/3SFOXK | 16:46 |
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| luke | hi. what's the best way to upgrade (source install) from 7.6.35 to the latest 7.7? can i do it directly? | 11:48 |
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| +BartJol | I would read the gotchas first | 12:09 |
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| +BartJol | but I believe I saw a bugfix that should make it possible to go to 7.7.24 (not 23), luke | 12:10 |
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| +BartJol | luke: http://github.com/plainblack/webgui/blob/v7.7.24/docs/gotcha.txt | 12:12 |
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| luke | thanks BartJol. i'll give it a go. | 12:13 |
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| +BartJol | luke there are quite some template changes, so checking the changelog might be wise too | 12:15 |
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| luke | i noticed that | 12:20 |
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| +BartJol | too late? | 12:32 |
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| luke | nono. i'm still procrastinating. | 12:38 |
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| +BartJol | aah very wise | 12:48 |
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| +BartJol | mmm, it seems that in the template help, the event asset reports untruly that the synopsis variable is present | 15:55 |
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| CIA-53 | webgui: Graham Knop master * r35d1fc9 / (docs/changelog/7.x.x.txt lib/WebGUI/AssetAspect/RssFeed.pm): fixed: RSS feeds generated with incorrect link for channel - http://bit.ly/1wqRNY | 17:12 |
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| SDuensin | Morning all. | 17:12 |
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| +BartJol | morning | 17:13 |
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| +perlDreamer | Haarg, the RssFeed bug fix broke a test. I'm going to backport your patch and the test fix now, so I don't forget to backport the test patch later | 18:03 |
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| @Haarg | oop, sorry, was going to check tests but wanted to get it committed quickly. | 18:03 |
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| +perlDreamer | no sweat | 18:04 |
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| CIA-53 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * rc017926 / t/Asset/Wobject/EventManagementSystem.t : Add the eventMetaData template variable back to the test. - http://bit.ly/1DFazi | 18:04 |
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| CIA-53 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * rfcab301 / t/AssetAspect/RssFeed.t : Update RssFeed test. - http://bit.ly/2aJIaU | 18:04 |
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| CIA-53 | webgui: Graham Knop webgui-7.7 * r44b05b2 / (docs/changelog/7.x.x.txt lib/WebGUI/AssetAspect/RssFeed.pm): fixed: RSS feeds generated with incorrect link for channel - http://bit.ly/aLwoS | 18:04 |
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| CIA-53 | webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.7 * r5186799 / t/AssetAspect/RssFeed.t : Update RssFeed test. - http://bit.ly/1VmRd4 | 18:04 |
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| +perlDreamer | tavisto: If I fix this Shop bug now, can you have the user try to check out again? | 18:05 |
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| @tavisto | I can reply to their email and tell them to do so | 18:06 |
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| +perlDreamer | tavisto, please make him do so | 18:41 |
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| @tavisto | ok perlDreamer will do | 18:43 |
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| +BartJol | is there a reason that userdefined tmpl_vars are not included for the storymanager? | 18:48 |
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| +BartJol | ah, dreamersgirl is in her class again | 18:49 |
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| dreamersgirl | :) | 18:50 |
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| dreamersgirl | We're learning about opioids.... | 18:50 |
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| +BartJol | doesn't sound simple | 18:51 |
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| +perlDreamer | BartJol: it doesn't have any to include? | 18:51 |
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| +BartJol | perlDreamer: yeah, but that is chicken-egg stuff | 18:52 |
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| +BartJol | I mean, why aren't they included as a feature in that whole manger | 18:53 |
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| +perlDreamer | they weren't in the spec | 18:53 |
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| +BartJol | ah | 18:53 |
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| +BartJol | so that would be an rfe | 18:53 |
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| +perlDreamer | definitely | 18:53 |
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| +BartJol | als filed | 18:57 |
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| +BartJol | and | 18:57 |
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| +BartJol | perlDreamer: so I can just leave that use_ok check out of the test, cool | 19:00 |
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| +BartJol | ? | 19:00 |
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| +perlDreamer | yeah | 19:00 |
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| +BartJol | well, let's rip it out and push it again, and then only 6 macros are completely without tests (or should we include the ones with only a use_ok test in that list......) | 19:01 |
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| +perlDreamer | yeah, I wasn't sure about separating them into categories like that | 19:02 |
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| +perlDreamer | but as long as everything is tested in the end | 19:02 |
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| CIA-53 | webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.7 * rb6f4f73 / lib/WebGUI/Asset.pm : Fix a bad comment. - http://bit.ly/1aW0O3 | 19:06 |
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| CIA-53 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * re9b11c5 / (2 files in 2 dirs): Navigation can use the default Asset getEditForm controls. Fixes bug #11188 - http://bit.ly/1fgJdb | 19:06 |
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| CIA-53 | webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.7 * r301763e / (2 files in 2 dirs): Navigation can use the default Asset getEditForm controls. Fixes bug #11188 - http://bit.ly/cdCD | 19:06 |
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| +BartJol | ok that is 1 then | 19:06 |
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| +BartJol | have fun merging | 19:07 |
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| +perlDreamer | I'll ship you the karma after I merge | 19:07 |
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| +BartJol | well, hold your horses, I intended to do more | 19:07 |
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| +perlDreamer | ah, but every time I give someone karma, I can post about it | 19:08 |
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| +perlDreamer | hopefully more people will sign up for test writing | 19:08 |
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| +perlDreamer | and then we'll have a whole herd of testers | 19:08 |
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| +BartJol | well, ok | 19:08 |
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| +perlDreamer | not that I want to give you competition or anything | 19:08 |
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| +BartJol | just give the next one, otherwise I have to choose | 19:08 |
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| +perlDreamer | it's first come, first serve | 19:09 |
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| +perlDreamer | which means you can pick the one that is easiest to test :) | 19:09 |
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| +BartJol | I already did | 19:09 |
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| +perlDreamer | I would pick StorageUrl next | 19:10 |
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| +BartJol | ok | 19:10 |
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| +BartJol | since I don't have any internet, I'll try to do that one tonight and post it tomorrow | 19:11 |
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| +perlDreamer | ah, yeha | 19:11 |
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| +perlDreamer | yeah | 19:11 |
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| +perlDreamer | no internet at Chez Jol | 19:11 |
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| +perlDreamer | is that something that is planned? | 19:11 |
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| +BartJol | no, only wireless woth passwords | 19:11 |
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| +BartJol | yeah my whole neighbourhoud put on security when I moved there | 19:12 |
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| +BartJol | it was a big operation | 19:12 |
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| +BartJol | and if I really feel like it, I might continue with a contenthandler, those are badly tested too | 19:13 |
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| +perlDreamer | yes | 19:13 |
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| +perlDreamer | most are not tested at all | 19:13 |
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| +perlDreamer | in fact, large pieces of WebGUI are not tested | 19:13 |
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| +perlDreamer | this is bad | 19:13 |
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| +BartJol | except 2 or three, including the very nice SetLanguage test | 19:13 |
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| +perlDreamer | SetLanguage is a gem | 19:13 |
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| +BartJol | :P | 19:14 |
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| +perlDreamer | for testing, I've been using this photo: http://imagebin.ca/view/5pFt3oTl.html | 19:16 |
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| +BartJol | ah, me will use this one http://blogs.bootsnall.com/pesta/archives/Peru/4.%20guinea%20pig.jpg | 19:17 |
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| +perlDreamer | mmm, french fries | 19:18 |
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| +perlDreamer | were you at the WUC where they served the pig for the luau, BartJol? | 19:18 |
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| +BartJol | no :( | 19:18 |
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| +BartJol | in vegas? | 19:18 |
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| +BartJol | or chicago> | 19:18 |
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| +perlDreamer | Vegas | 19:18 |
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| +BartJol | sounds like vegas | 19:19 |
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| +BartJol | no, only Madison WUC's for me | 19:19 |
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| +BartJol | mmmm, more than a million image results on fried guinea pig, it is a strange world, but all those pictures are making me hungry, so later | 19:21 |
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| +perlDreamer | Haarg, preaction, fellow WebGUI folk, lend me your ears | 19:22 |
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| @Haarg | ? | 19:22 |
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| +perlDreamer | why is it that editing controls are not displayed when an Image Asset is AssetProxied? | 19:22 |
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| +perlDreamer | it appears to be designed in | 19:24 |
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| @Haarg | it's meant for if it is used in a design the toolbar doesn't get in the way | 19:24 |
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| @Haarg | according to rizen | 19:24 |
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| +perlDreamer | that makes sense | 19:25 |
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| SDuensin | Interesting logic. Just turning on admin mode usually trashes my layouts. :-( | 19:26 |
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| +perlDreamer | Yay, Joeri! | 19:43 |
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| SDuensin | Perl on Windows is compiled poop. | 19:58 |
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| +perlDreamer | s/Perl on//; | 19:59 |
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| SDuensin | That's the truth. | 19:59 |
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| SDuensin | They don't give me a real computer at work. | 19:59 |
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| SDuensin | All I want is an updated CPAN. Is that asking too much? | 20:00 |
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| +perlDreamer | are you using Strawberry Perl? | 20:00 |
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| SDuensin | Cygwin | 20:01 |
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| CIA-53 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r9b94516 / lib/WebGUI/Asset/Wobject/Calendar.pm : Remove debug code from Calendar. - http://bit.ly/3ZgNeS | 20:53 |
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| topsub | Is there a way to import subscribers into webgui's Newsletter asset? | 21:06 |
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| +perlDreamer | not through the user interface | 21:06 |
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| topsub | Would i have to do straight sql? | 21:07 |
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| topsub | Is that what you mean? | 21:07 |
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| topsub | Or write a script? | 21:07 |
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| +perlDreamer | yeah | 21:07 |
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| topsub | Script would be best way you think? | 21:08 |
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| +perlDreamer | yes | 21:08 |
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| +perlDreamer | see setUserSubscriptions in Asset/Wobject/Collaboration/Newsletter.pm | 21:09 |
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| topsub | ah, nice thanks! | 21:17 |
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| +perlDreamer | Haarg, do you happen to have that benchmark data for isIn vs grep vs first laying around? | 21:37 |
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| @Haarg | nope | 21:37 |
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| ckotil | can i gracefully restart modproxy using apachectl like so? '/data/wre/prereqs/bin/apachectl -f /data/wre/etc/modproxy.conf graceful' | 22:38 |
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| @Haarg | yes | 22:41 |
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| ckotil | sweet. needs +k too, but thanks. | 22:43 |
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| daviddelikat | perlDreamer: are you going to be on later? and have a minute to look at something for me? | 02:52 |
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| * perlDreamer will be on until late tonight my time | 02:53 |
| +perlDreamer | which is tomorrow your time | 02:53 |
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| daviddelikat | I'm about to take a sort break for a ~late~ dinner and then try to fix the formatting on the EMS | 02:55 |
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| daviddelikat | its doing that thing where WG sends unproccessed pages out. so that they do not have correct formatting | 02:56 |
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| daviddelikat | anytime you feel lilkt peeking at it http://delikat.homeip.net:8080/ with the default password | 02:57 |
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| daviddelikat | look at the submission queue -> the three links on top of the datatable. | 02:57 |
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| daviddelikat | also let me know how it works for firefox. AFAIK it only works in safari. | 02:58 |
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| daviddelikat | I'll be back in about fifteen. I appretiate any input you can give. | 02:58 |
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| +perlDreamer | I'm getting called for dinner, too. I'll be back in a while | 03:22 |
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| +perlDreamer | hey, patspam! | 05:00 |
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| +perlDreamer | How are you doing? | 05:00 |
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| +perlDreamer | daviddelikat: this is what I've found | 05:35 |
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| +perlDreamer | the DataForm on the view submission queue page just sits and spins. Doesn't seem to load anything. | 05:36 |
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| +perlDreamer | The new submission form is streaming a bunch of HTML down the line. The hoverhelp isn't being rendered because it has to be done with javascript, creating a new tooltip for each one. | 05:36 |
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| +perlDreamer | A macro is rendered on the bottom of the Add Submission page | 05:37 |
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| +perlDreamer | the link "the first one", looks like it brings up a filled in Add Submission form page. | 05:38 |
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| +perlDreamer | same broken International macro | 05:39 |
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| +perlDreamer | When I click on Add Submission Form, it throws an error of some kind. | 05:39 |
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| * perlDreamer has to do some shopping, be back soon | 05:39 |
| daviddelikat | k thanks for the notes | 05:39 |
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| daviddelikat | back in he mornin | 06:53 |
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| +perlDreamer | 'night | 06:54 |
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| daviddelikat | So I got tired of Firefox... and now I'm developing in Safari | 16:14 |
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| daviddelikat | but it is giving me this error: | 16:14 |
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| daviddelikat | resource interpreted as other... | 16:14 |
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| daviddelikat | and the file appears to be empty | 16:14 |
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| +BartJol | well, I do that to, when someone sends me a file, I read another and say that I don't get it :) | 16:18 |
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| +BartJol | but what kind off file? | 16:18 |
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| +BartJol | daviddelikat: I do have konqueror, so I might check it out | 16:21 |
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| +BartJol | even got safari on my other box | 16:22 |
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| daviddelikat | well, I realized as I was typinh in IRC that I had not yet googled the message | 16:22 |
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| daviddelikat | so I did that | 16:22 |
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| daviddelikat | and found that it seems to be GASP ~a bug~ in Safari... | 16:22 |
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| daviddelikat | so I'm upgrading | 16:22 |
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| +BartJol | ah, at first I would guess wrong url copied or version tag not committed :) | 16:23 |
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| daviddelikat | its a js faile in extras | 16:23 |
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| daviddelikat | s/faile/file/ | 16:23 |
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| daviddelikat | so if anything it would be mod_proxy | 16:23 |
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| +BartJol | well | 16:23 |
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| +BartJol | not per se | 16:23 |
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| daviddelikat | and come to think of it I think I'll restart it | 16:24 |
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| daviddelikat | how so? | 16:24 |
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| +BartJol | extras is also a urlhandler | 16:24 |
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| +BartJol | might go something wrong there too, would be strange | 16:24 |
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| +BartJol | but not impossible | 16:24 |
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| daviddelikat | whats a 'urlhandler'? | 16:24 |
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| +BartJol | well,, look into your webgui conf at urlHandler | 16:25 |
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| +BartJol | you'll find some | 16:25 |
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| daviddelikat | so its an asset or perl object of some kind | 16:25 |
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| +BartJol | yeah | 16:25 |
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| +BartJol | the last | 16:25 |
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| +BartJol | if a call comes to webgui, it first checks the urlHandlers | 16:26 |
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| +BartJol | and handles them in the right order | 16:26 |
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| JDanPl | BartJol: greate! You explained how webgui manage with URL's. Thanks. | 16:39 |
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| +BartJol | ehh with that short description? | 16:40 |
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| +BartJol | it is only the first step :) | 16:40 |
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| +BartJol | I made a contentHandler, so I had to understand it | 16:41 |
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| JDanPl | Yes, but I know now where is begining | 16:41 |
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| +BartJol | ah | 16:41 |
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| +BartJol | in the dev book there is a nice diagram of that | 16:41 |
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| JDanPl | I have to order this book. | 16:42 |
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| +BartJol | the contenthandlers work almost the same (so order in conf is important) | 16:43 |
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| +BartJol | so if no special case in urlhandling, it is content, then it checks whether it is a contenthandler, if yes->execute, if not->retrieve normal content | 16:44 |
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| JDanPl | So contentHandlers represents some actions | 16:45 |
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| +BartJol | I can do a presentation at the wuc next year: WebGUI::TheShortWay | 16:45 |
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| +BartJol | yes, like turning admin on | 16:45 |
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| +BartJol | mostly it changes some session properties | 16:45 |
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| +BartJol | I believe | 16:45 |
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| +BartJol | or allows you to add assets | 16:46 |
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| +BartJol | stuff like that | 16:47 |
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| +BartJol | or set your session language (in 7.8.3) | 16:47 |
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| +BartJol | just check the contentHandler order for that | 16:48 |
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| +BartJol | also in the conf | 16:48 |
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| JDanPl | ok, I see | 16:50 |
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| +BartJol | JDanPl: I had to dive into that with the language stuff. You wanna change it, but if you do that with a macro, that is executed when the page has almost rendered, so you have to do that before retrieving content | 16:50 |
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| JDanPl | BartJol: I made a couple of simple macros. For example WebGUI::Macro::GroupIdTextUp which is extension to WebGUI::Macro::GroupeText. Can I send it at first to you? | 16:56 |
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| +BartJol | sure | 16:56 |
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| +BartJol | what do you want me to do with it? | 16:57 |
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| JDanPl | Check is it worth public and is it good prepared | 16:58 |
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| +BartJol | ah, ok | 16:58 |
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| +BartJol | just e-mail me the file, tell what you want to do with it (should be clear from the POD) and what you would use it for | 16:59 |
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| +BartJol | actually, if it passes the normal use test, it might be worthwhile to write a test for it | 16:59 |
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| +BartJol | but let's not go too fast | 17:00 |
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| JDanPl | How I can gain your emai? I don't see at sources | 17:00 |
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| +BartJol | even my smiley macro is downloaded | 17:00 |
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| +BartJol | you should have another open tab in your im client now | 17:00 |
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| +BartJol | ok, perlsyntax = ok | 17:11 |
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| +BartJol | that is a first important step | 17:11 |
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| JDanPl | Perl is my home | 17:11 |
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| JDanPl | from many yers ;-) | 17:11 |
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| +BartJol | but often we shift all parameters in to a variable | 17:11 |
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| +BartJol | to keep them tracked | 17:12 |
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| JDanPl | hm... there macros expect varius number of params | 17:14 |
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| +BartJol | JDanPl: it might be me, but I thought 0 was a valid value, and so the !$param statement seems odd | 17:14 |
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| JDanPl | yes, you are right | 17:14 |
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| +BartJol | het thenm in an array first and stuff them in a hash | 17:15 |
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| +BartJol | I did that with mu languagepageswitch, it is on the bazaar | 17:15 |
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| +BartJol | almost the same handling of that hash | 17:15 |
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| +BartJol | except for what you're actually doing | 17:16 |
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| +BartJol | JDanPl: group Id 3 is not recognised | 17:26 |
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| +BartJol | which is strange | 17:26 |
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| +BartJol | it exists | 17:26 |
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| +BartJol | and I am in it as admin | 17:27 |
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| +BartJol | for the groupidtextup macro | 17:27 |
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| +BartJol | mmm and the other gives a strange error: Macro has no process sub: WebGUI::Macro::GroupTextUp. which it has.... | 17:31 |
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| JDanPl | It's strange. In my instance of WebGUI it works corrctly. I have to check it | 17:32 |
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| +BartJol | well, it might be my install | 17:33 |
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| +BartJol | It was more glancing | 17:33 |
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| +BartJol | so I guess I did something wrong | 17:33 |
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| JDanPl | juts moment | 17:34 |
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| +BartJol | it is called, so I put it in the right dir and I got the name right in the conf | 17:35 |
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| JDanPl | Simple test ^GroupIdTextUp('3','Group 3','1','Group 1'); showd me macro works right | 17:36 |
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| +BartJol | mmm, then I did something, let's have a look | 17:38 |
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| +BartJol | mmm, it parses, so that is good | 17:42 |
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| JDanPl | I concern that spliting array to hash does not guarantee former order. For example foreach my $language (keys %assetsLanguage) { not always run in the same order | 17:47 |
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| +BartJol | that is correct, since it is an hash | 17:48 |
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| JDanPl | In macro GroupIdTextUp order of params is important. | 17:49 |
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| +BartJol | ok | 17:49 |
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| +BartJol | then leave it in the array and just shift out 2 in each loop | 17:49 |
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| JDanPl | ok | 17:50 |
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| +BartJol | the use use of @_ is very nice perl, but maybe not better readable | 17:50 |
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| +BartJol | do you have it in a custom dir? | 18:01 |
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| +BartJol | I do, dunno why, but it can make a difference | 18:02 |
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| +perlDreamer | BartJol, you ready for a merge? | 18:02 |
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| +BartJol | sorry perlDreamer didn't come around to that testing yesterday | 18:02 |
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| +perlDreamer | no sweat | 18:02 |
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| +BartJol | well, I did make a fork | 18:02 |
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| +BartJol | but after that something was a bit strange | 18:03 |
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| +BartJol | and I had to do other stuff | 18:03 |
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| +BartJol | so unfortunately, no | 18:03 |
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| +BartJol | let's have a look | 18:03 |
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| +BartJol | did you already did something with that BackToSite stuff? otherwise it is useless to look at it now | 18:04 |
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| +perlDreamer | I haven't done anything yet. | 18:05 |
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| +perlDreamer | From your email this morning, I thought you might have started some new test | 18:05 |
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| +perlDreamer | which means merging would get me partially done code | 18:05 |
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| +perlDreamer | which is like eating half cooked pannenkoeken | 18:05 |
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| +BartJol | that might be true at the moment | 18:06 |
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| +BartJol | or cooked haring | 18:06 |
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| +BartJol | at this moment I'm getting used to working with that fork | 18:08 |
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| +perlDreamer | morning, tavisto | 18:26 |
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| daviddelikat | so what is it in template processing that determines whether macros are processed or not? | 18:55 |
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| @Haarg | macros aren't processed as part of the template processing | 18:55 |
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| @Haarg | they are processed on output | 18:56 |
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| @Haarg | there are some cases where they are processed aside from output, but those are handled by the individual components, not as part of template processing | 18:57 |
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| daviddelikat | whats the switch that turns it on or off? | 18:57 |
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| @Haarg | in what case? | 18:57 |
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| daviddelikat | I have a macro that is not being' translated' | 18:57 |
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| daviddelikat | how many cases are there? | 18:57 |
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| @Haarg | when you are outputting content, you can tell it not to process macros | 18:58 |
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| @Haarg | that isn't done in a lot of places though | 18:58 |
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| @Haarg | what is the case you are dealing with? | 18:58 |
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| daviddelikat | I'm returning some JSON that contains HTML | 18:58 |
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| daviddelikat | do I need to run it through Macro processing manually? | 18:59 |
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| @Haarg | you'll have to manually process the macros | 18:59 |
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| daviddelikat | thanks | 19:00 |
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| daviddelikat | I don't know why I didn't think of that myself | 19:01 |
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| @Haarg | if the mime type is set to something that isn't text/ it disables macro parsing | 19:01 |
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| @Haarg | because you can't do automatic macro parsing on json content | 19:02 |
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| daviddelikat | Haarg: do you know what JS needs to run in order to get hoverHelp rendered correctly? | 19:05 |
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| @Haarg | the hoverhelp stuff is all in www/extras/hoverHelp.js. it's been a while so i don't know exactly what you need to do for stuff added after page load | 19:07 |
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| +perlDreamer | it's evil, evil bug day | 19:11 |
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| daviddelikat | is there any other kind of bug? | 19:14 |
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| +perlDreamer | yeah, there are cute fluffy little bugs that take 3.5 minutes to fix | 19:14 |
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| daviddelikat | I like to call those 'typos | 19:14 |
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| +perlDreamer | so far, I've had the 0 ne 0 bug, the duplicate database property bug and the perl array autovivifaction bug. | 19:14 |
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| CIA-53 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * rd852602 / (docs/changelog/7.x.x.txt lib/WebGUI/Shop/Pay.pm): | 19:25 |
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| CIA-53 | webgui: Fix small number handling in the Shop. Fixes bug #11195 | 19:25 |
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| CIA-53 | webgui: Format the number to be checked against 0.00 in Shop/Pay.pm, since sometimes perl | 19:25 |
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| CIA-53 | webgui: will leave small remainders when subtracting numbers. - http://bit.ly/qzsmK | 19:25 |
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| CIA-53 | webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.7 * r16f6aa4 / (docs/changelog/7.x.x.txt lib/WebGUI/Shop/Pay.pm): | 19:25 |
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| CIA-53 | webgui: Fix small number handling in the Shop. Fixes bug #11195 | 19:25 |
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| CIA-53 | webgui: Format the number to be checked against 0.00 in Shop/Pay.pm, since sometimes perl | 19:25 |
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| CIA-53 | webgui: will leave small remainders when subtracting numbers. - http://bit.ly/rMeAd | 19:25 |
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| ecopunk | I have a quick question... Is there any way to give a group permission to edit templates (New Content > Utilities > Templates) without putting them in the Admin group? | 21:03 |
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| +perlDreamer | ecopunk, by default all templates are owned by the group called Turn Admin On | 21:06 |
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| +perlDreamer | but I've never seen that menu you're talking about | 21:07 |
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| ecopunk | Hmmm... There must be a change in the setup I'm working with, as I've already tried placing the user in that group to no avail. | 21:09 |
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| +perlDreamer | let me double check, I could wrong | 21:09 |
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| +perlDreamer | It's a day that ends in Y | 21:09 |
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| +perlDreamer | I've checked 1 Article Template, and it's owned by Turn Admin On | 21:10 |
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| +perlDreamer | excuse me, not owned by, but Group To Edit is Turn Admin On | 21:11 |
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| +perlDreamer | now, adding a template is different from editing a template | 21:12 |
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| +perlDreamer | is that what you mean | 21:12 |
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| daviddelikat | preaction: do you happen to know how to get initHoverHelp to work from other places? | 21:14 |
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| +perlDreamer | daviddelikat, I think patspam or perlmonkey2 knows how to do that | 21:16 |
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| +perlDreamer | they've shipped stuff across XHR/JSON requests for the Survey | 21:16 |
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| daviddelikat | very good, are they around? | 21:16 |
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| +perlDreamer | don't know, but looking through the Survey JS would be a good place to start | 21:16 |
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| +perlDreamer | also, you could look at the Thingy, since it dynamically builds the forms to add new fields to a Thingy | 21:17 |
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| +perlDreamer | and, iirc, it has hoverhelp | 21:17 |
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| daviddelikat | I've looked through it a bit, but there is something alluding me | 21:17 |
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| +perlDreamer | eluding | 21:17 |
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| daviddelikat | I inserted the call but the function is not found at the call point | 21:18 |
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| daviddelikat | yes that | 21:18 |
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| ecopunk | perlDreamer: Yes. Or perhaps I should say create a new template. | 21:22 |
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| +perlDreamer | creating any new asset can only be done from a place where the current user has edit privileges | 21:22 |
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| +perlDreamer | so if they can't edit the current page/asset/whatever, they won't be able to add a new template | 21:23 |
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| +perlDreamer | for example, in a new install, all assets are owned by Admin, and editable by the group Content Managers | 21:24 |
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| +perlDreamer | except for the home page, which is owned by Admin, and editable by Admins | 21:24 |
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| +perlDreamer | which seems kind of screwy | 21:24 |
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| +perlDreamer | and checking further, it's pretty random as to the group editing privileges on the default content | 21:27 |
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| +perlDreamer | Haarg, should those be made consistent? | 21:28 |
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| +perlDreamer | select a.assetId, title, d.groupIdEdit, d.ownerUserId from asset as a join assetData as d using (assetId) where lineage like '000001000002%'; | 21:28 |
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| +perlDreamer | it is not going to be pretty | 21:33 |
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| jnegative | at least you're going. more than most can say | 21:33 |
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| daviddelikat | patspam or perlmonkey2: I'm having trouble with initializing hover help after a JSON transfer | 21:34 |
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| daviddelikat | Haarg: I don't suppose you've recently added a 'grep' function for searching packages in wgd? | 21:36 |
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| @Haarg | wgd ls --filter may do what you want | 21:36 |
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| @Haarg | i haven't really used it - patspam wrote it | 21:37 |
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| daviddelikat | I'll look at it | 21:37 |
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| daviddelikat | I really want to look inside templates for some text | 21:39 |
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| daviddelikat | is there any way to dump the whole thing to disk? | 21:39 |
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| @Haarg | wgd export-branch | 21:41 |
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| daviddelikat | is that a new command? I don't seem to have it here. | 21:42 |
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| @Haarg | relatively new, yes | 21:43 |
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| daviddelikat | I figured it out | 21:43 |
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| daviddelikat | dash not underscore | 21:44 |
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| ecopunk | perlDreamer: Weird, still can't get it to work. Thanks, though... You gave me a few more ideas to try. | 21:49 |
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| +perlDreamer | daviddelikat: you can also look at docs/create.sql, but it's not easy | 23:32 |
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| daviddelikat | I figured out what I was missing for hoverhelp... | 03:21 |
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| daviddelikat | it was the hoverhelp style sheet! | 03:21 |
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| CIA-53 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * rb4112e8 / (t/Shop/Ship.t t/Shop/ShipDriver/UPS.t): Update tests for UPS driver. Cleanup diags. - http://bit.ly/2ItEsC | 06:56 |
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| +perlDreamer | that's right folks, you saw it here first | 06:57 |
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| +perlDreamer | WebGUI now has a UPS shipping driver | 06:57 |
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| CIA-53 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * rbc0a774 / docs/create.sql : Preparing for 7.8.3 release. - http://bit.ly/mObO1 | 07:20 |
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| -!- Radix_ changed the topic of #webgui to: [7.7.24-stable | 7.8.3-beta | WRE 0.9.3] Before you ask, check the wiki: http://wiki.webgui.org | Pastebin: http://webgui.pastebin.com | 08:16 |
| +perlDreamer | thanks, Radix_ | 08:16 |
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| +Radix_ | It's about all I do anymore I'm afraid ;( | 08:16 |
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| +perlDreamer | No more webgui work? | 08:16 |
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| +Radix_ | nah, no time these days.. | 08:17 |
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| +perlDreamer | that's a bummer man | 08:17 |
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| +Radix_ | we're still using 7.0.8 here at work and I haven't had time to go and upgrade it | 08:17 |
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| +Radix_ | that said.. it's working well still, so can't complain :) | 08:17 |
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| +Radix_ | About to get married in a few days, so will have even less time for a while ;) | 08:18 |
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| +perlDreamer | Congratulations! | 08:18 |
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| +Radix_ | ta :) | 08:18 |
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| CIA-53 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r5ef8252 / (4 files in 4 dirs): Ready for 7.8.4 development cycle. - http://bit.ly/mjzRW | 08:20 |
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| +BartJol | KlausH: is there a UPS translator for all that terminilogy? | 13:18 |
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| SDuensin | Good morning. | 16:26 |
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| +BartJol | morning | 16:58 |
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| SDuensin | Wow. I completely do not understand Microsoft. Their home page proclaims: "Windows 7 is pretty dope," "...my games partition survived," "after ironing out a few kinks...is my favorite OS." Gee, glowing endorsements. | 17:08 |
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| +BartJol | yeah the faith drips out of it | 17:09 |
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| SDuensin | Who decided to put "my games partition *survived*" on the home page?! | 17:10 |
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| +BartJol | I don't know | 17:12 |
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| SDuensin | If I was a developer for them, I'd be hunting that person down. | 17:13 |
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| SDuensin | Can you imagine? "Hey rizen! WebGUI 8 didn't destroy my site!" and he puts it on the home page. :-) | 17:14 |
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| daviddelikat | perhaps 'dope' has changed sense, like bad == good | 17:14 |
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| SDuensin | Thing is, the "dope" comment is the best one up there! | 17:14 |
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| daviddelikat | yeah, I see the rest ow, -- took a while to load the rest... ( slow connetion ) | 17:15 |
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| SDuensin | The other is happy it didn't destroy his other partition, and the last now likes W7 after he tweaked/fixed it. Amazing! | 17:15 |
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| +BartJol | well, maybe they have a new policy for only talking about windows in understatements... | 17:15 |
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| daviddelikat | yeah thats pretty funny | 17:15 |
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| daviddelikat | gotta get an image of that... | 17:16 |
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| SDuensin | hehe | 17:16 |
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| SDuensin | I just checked. It's a shame my MS buddy isn't online right now. :-D | 17:16 |
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| +BartJol | windows 7, the windows that didn't break all stuff | 17:16 |
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| daviddelikat | I've got screen prints | 17:17 |
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| SDuensin | Just amazing. | 17:18 |
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| SDuensin | Glad someone got copies. I'm stuck browserless halfway through an IE8 upgrade. | 17:19 |
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| +BartJol | oh, mine went fine | 17:19 |
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| daviddelikat | http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/597042/survived%20win%207.jpg | 17:19 |
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| SDuensin | (And that's pronounced "Aye-Eeeeeeeeee!") | 17:19 |
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| daviddelikat | http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/597042/iron%20win%207.jpg | 17:19 |
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| daviddelikat | perhaps I should crop them a bit? | 17:20 |
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| +BartJol | nice, that chat window in the background :) | 17:20 |
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| SDuensin | What are you chatting with? I don't recognize it. | 17:21 |
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| daviddelikat | pidgin | 17:22 |
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| daviddelikat | its pretty nice | 17:22 |
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| daviddelikat | even has a facebook plugin | 17:22 |
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| SDuensin | Never used it for IRC. Cool. | 17:22 |
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| +BartJol | chatting with pidgin too | 17:22 |
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| daviddelikat | I recently found that you can very easily move you settings | 17:22 |
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| daviddelikat | just copy the '.purple' folder from application settings | 17:23 |
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| SDuensin | I'm taking the scenic route to get here... Windows->NX->SSH->LinuxBox->XChat->ZNC->IRC. :-) | 17:23 |
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| daviddelikat | wow! | 17:23 |
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| SDuensin | My IM path is even worse. :-) | 17:24 |
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| daviddelikat | I don't have that kind of patience | 17:24 |
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| SDuensin | But it lets me connect to IRC/IM from anywhere with any IRC client. I can connect multiple times and all the windows get updated at the same time. I can disconnect and it buffers what I miss for playback. I can even get it on my phone. | 17:25 |
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| SDuensin | Well, all you'd need is the ZNC part. It's a bouncer. For IM, I put Bitlbee behind ZNC. | 17:25 |
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| daviddelikat | I've thought about using a VM for my stuff | 17:25 |
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| daviddelikat | I already VM my development | 17:25 |
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| daviddelikat | so I never have to close my sessions | 17:26 |
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| SDuensin | The NX/SSH stuff is how I'm punching through the firewall at work to get to my Linux desktop at home. It also lets me suspend and resume from elsewhere later. I've been logged in with XChat running for weeks now. :-) | 17:26 |
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| SDuensin | It's kind of neat. It's really shown me how little I rely on OS-specific software for my day-to-day. The only program I really miss having is 1Password. | 17:27 |
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| +BartJol | well, that's considered save by some | 17:28 |
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| +BartJol | safe | 17:28 |
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| SDuensin | What's safe? | 17:28 |
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| +BartJol | more than 1 passwd | 17:28 |
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| SDuensin | I mean the Mac app "1Password". | 17:29 |
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| +BartJol | ah | 17:29 |
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| +BartJol | didn't know that | 17:29 |
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| SDuensin | It's a really slick password manager. | 17:29 |
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| SDuensin | I just need to find an open source one I like. Been too lazy since 1P does the job. | 17:29 |
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| SDuensin | Here's a nice example of NX being very handy. Gotta reboot my PC. But I'm not leaving. :-) | 17:31 |
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| +BartJol | mike, it's amaaaazing | 17:32 |
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| daviddelikat | SDuensin: keeppass is open source. just released 2.? | 17:32 |
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| daviddelikat | i'm still on 1.1 so I don't know what the new one looks like | 17:33 |
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| SDuensin | I'll look into it. | 17:34 |
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| SDuensin | (See? All rebooted!) | 17:34 |
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| daviddelikat | very nice | 17:34 |
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| daviddelikat | http://keepass.info/ | 17:35 |
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| SDuensin | Mono, eh? I guess I can live with that. | 17:36 |
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| daviddelikat | one of these days there will be ~real~ portability | 17:36 |
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| SDuensin | This box has "seahorse" password and key manager thingie on it. | 17:37 |
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| daviddelikat | when people start building apps in LLVM | 17:37 |
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| SDuensin | Technology-wise, I like Mono. Licensing, it's a bit spooky. | 17:37 |
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| daviddelikat | LLVM apps you could run the same apps from USB on linux,mac,win and whatever else comes along | 17:38 |
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| daviddelikat | I wonder how long it will be before I start seeing Win7 licenses in my E-Scrap... | 17:40 |
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| daviddelikat | took less than a year for WinXP | 17:41 |
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| SDuensin | Yea, LLVM is neat. A game engine I've been working on is going to use it to run under Flash. :-) | 17:41 |
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| SDuensin | Parrot looks neat for cross-platform stuff, too. | 17:43 |
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| +perlDreamer | Haarg, I mistyped this: git commit -ac24e4ecc | 17:46 |
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| +perlDreamer | and now it won't let me commit anymore | 17:46 |
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| +perlDreamer | when I try to commit, it just gives me the standard command line prompt back | 17:46 |
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| +perlDreamer | no error messages | 17:46 |
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| +perlDreamer | nada | 17:46 |
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| @Haarg | what were you intending to type? | 17:47 |
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| @Haarg | and what do you get from git status | 17:47 |
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| +perlDreamer | supposed to have typed git commit -ac 24e4ecc | 17:47 |
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| +perlDreamer | git st shows nothing unusual: http://gist.github.com/226138 | 17:48 |
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| +perlDreamer | ah, pre-commit hook tripped | 17:48 |
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| +perlDreamer | I redirected all output to dev/null | 17:49 |
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| +perlDreamer | because 1500 lines of passing is not good | 17:49 |
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| SDuensin | Wish we could direct users there. | 17:49 |
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| +perlDreamer | but then they wouldn't pay their bills | 17:50 |
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| SDuensin | Half mine don't anyway. Bastards. | 17:50 |
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| +BartJol | strange, tests for SetLanguage also pass with more languages installed, it's amazing | 17:54 |
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| +perlDreamer | Nice work, BartJol | 17:55 |
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| +BartJol | ah, only the macro fails | 17:55 |
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| +BartJol | because 2 sets of tmpl_vars | 17:55 |
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| +BartJol | or double loop actually | 17:55 |
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| +perlDreamer | well, contact the author and report it as a bug | 17:56 |
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| +perlDreamer | the t/International.t installs a fake language pack that you can use to test that behavior | 17:56 |
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| +BartJol | I don't like the author | 17:57 |
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| +BartJol | he pushes his own so called "features" into the core, without anyone asking but him | 17:57 |
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| +perlDreamer | well, that last part may not be true | 17:58 |
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| +perlDreamer | As part of WebGUI Statistics, JT collects which macros are enabled on a site | 17:58 |
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| +perlDreamer | so, in a few months, you could ask him if anyone is using PickLanguage | 17:58 |
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| +BartJol | oh, cool | 17:58 |
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| +BartJol | let's bug him right away :) | 17:58 |
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| +BartJol | but no-one asked me to do it, oh no that's not true either, bepo wanted something like that, but scared her away, that seems to happen with germans | 18:02 |
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| @Haarg | perlDreamer, is your pre-commit hook using prove? why can't you just have it run in non-verbose mode? that would output like 4 lines if there weren't any errors. | 18:10 |
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| +perlDreamer | I was using perl for the hook | 18:10 |
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| +perlDreamer | a few days ago, I added this to the end: 2>&1 | 18:11 |
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| +perlDreamer | that was a mistake | 18:11 |
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| +perlDreamer | BartJol, is it a good time to merge in your test branch? | 18:24 |
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| CIA-53 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r24e4ecc / (2 files in 2 dirs): Fix an i18n typo in the EMS. - http://bit.ly/3CvSZ2 | 18:24 |
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| +BartJol | well, I made a mess of all my git repo's | 18:24 |
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| * perlDreamer will wait then :) | 18:24 |
| * SDuensin still doesn't grok git. | 18:24 |
| +BartJol | I use an account and have 3-4 repo's under it | 18:25 |
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| +perlDreamer | git r0Xer$ | 18:25 |
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| SDuensin | So I hear. | 18:25 |
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| +BartJol | except the international and picklange and macrotesting repo's, it's a mess and I need to clean that up | 18:25 |
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| +perlDreamer | let me know when you're ready | 18:26 |
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| +perlDreamer | SDuensin, here's just 1 killer feature of git. It's called stash | 18:26 |
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| +perlDreamer | let's suppose you're in the middle of working on something | 18:26 |
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| +perlDreamer | and you have to drop what you're doing and work on a new project | 18:27 |
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| +perlDreamer | in SVN, you'd have to make another checkout | 18:27 |
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| +perlDreamer | in git, you say "git stash save" | 18:27 |
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| +perlDreamer | and it rolls you back to HEAD, and save all of your work on a stack so you can pop it off later | 18:27 |
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| SDuensin | That would be handy. | 18:28 |
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| +perlDreamer | it's massively handy | 18:28 |
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| +perlDreamer | My stack depth averages 1 on a day to day basis | 18:28 |
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| SDuensin | I was just about to ask. :-) | 18:28 |
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| +perlDreamer | patspam++ for clueing me in | 18:28 |
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| * perlDreamer heads off to a coffeeshop with Mrs Dreamer. bbiaw | 18:29 |
| +BartJol | coffeeshop.... | 18:29 |
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| SDuensin | I'm using Redmine for project & source control. I knew how SVN worked in it. GIT seems newer in their "support". | 18:29 |
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| SDuensin | Food time here. Back sometime. | 18:31 |
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| +BartJol | mmm it seems that I finally got it | 18:37 |
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| +BartJol | or that I screwed up, and when my branche is merged, the whole of webgui disappears | 18:40 |
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| +perlDreamer | ahhh, coffeeshop! | 19:31 |
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| +perlDreamer | morning, patspam | 19:49 |
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| +perlDreamer | you poor, east coast jetlagged programmer | 19:49 |
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| +patspam | hehe | 19:49 |
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| +patspam | hey perlDreamer! | 19:49 |
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| +patspam | just wired up my poor, jetlagged desktop pc | 19:49 |
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| +perlDreamer | is it liking New York? | 19:49 |
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| +patspam | it's still acclimatising :) | 19:50 |
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| +patspam | as is my wifi connection | 19:51 |
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| +perlDreamer | did you see that I finally got in an ironman post? | 19:52 |
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| +perlDreamer | and that someone else blogged about it? | 19:52 |
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| +patspam | ooh not yet! | 19:52 |
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| +patspam | I'm behind on my rss feeds | 19:53 |
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| +perlDreamer | git pre-commit hook for webgui | 19:53 |
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| +patspam | sweet, for test suite integration? | 19:54 |
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| +perlDreamer | yeah. although I'm just testing t/00_compile.t | 19:55 |
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| +patspam | that's awesome | 19:56 |
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| +patspam | man I get so many telemarketing calls here! | 19:57 |
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| +perlDreamer | there's a registry called the Do Not Call List. | 19:57 |
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| +patspam | heh yeah, just googled it | 19:58 |
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| +perlDreamer | also, if they call you, you can tel them, "Please add me to your Do Not Call list and do not call again." | 19:58 |
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| +perlDreamer | and they have to do that | 19:58 |
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| +perlDreamer | well, at least in Oregon. Not sure if that's a national law or not | 19:58 |
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| +patspam | except they're all pre-recorded messages | 19:58 |
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| +perlDreamer | those are illegal in Oregon, too | 19:59 |
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| +patspam | I knew i should've moved to Oregon instead | 20:00 |
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| +perlDreamer | yeah, except for that whole girlfriend thing... | 20:01 |
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| * patspam heads out for lunch | 20:16 |
| daviddelikat | how does WG handle the numeric i18n codes? | 20:22 |
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| +perlDreamer | davidelikat, the same way it handles stringy i18n codes | 20:22 |
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| +perlDreamer | except that you don't have to quote them in perl code | 20:22 |
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| daviddelikat | but where are they stored? | 20:23 |
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| +perlDreamer | which namespace are they in? | 20:23 |
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| daviddelikat | do you need a specific i18n object? | 20:23 |
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| daviddelikat | or are they on all of them? | 20:23 |
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| +perlDreamer | no, but the i18n objects are created with a default namespace | 20:23 |
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| +perlDreamer | so $i18n->get('key') only works if it's in the default namespace for that object | 20:23 |
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| +perlDreamer | so, find where the object was instanciated and you'll know what the namespace is | 20:24 |
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| daviddelikat | what neamsace are the numeric codes in? | 20:24 |
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| +perlDreamer | what do you mean by "numeric code"? | 20:24 |
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| daviddelikat | code 99 translates as untitled | 20:24 |
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| daviddelikat | what namespace is it in? | 20:25 |
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| +perlDreamer | again, you're asking the question backwards | 20:25 |
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| +perlDreamer | to know what code 99 is, you have to know the namespace | 20:25 |
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| +perlDreamer | since the keys are not globally unique | 20:25 |
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| daviddelikat | I understand what you are saying | 20:27 |
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| daviddelikat | but I was hoping to find out that there are some standard codes like 'untitled' that are available across the board | 20:28 |
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| +perlDreamer | no, each key is unique to its namespace | 20:28 |
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| +perlDreamer | so you have to go digging to find out if they're defined in other namespaces | 20:28 |
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| +perlDreamer | that's starting to sound like a good wgd plugin | 20:29 |
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| +perlDreamer | wgd i18n key=99 | 20:29 |
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| +perlDreamer | or wgd i18n search="some value/phrase/regex" | 20:29 |
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| daviddelikat | do you know what module implements the i18n object? | 20:29 |
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| +perlDreamer | International.pm | 20:29 |
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| daviddelikat | ok course, why don't I ever think of that... | 20:30 |
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| SDuensin | Anyone see this? http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/?p=4443 | 20:30 |
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| +perlDreamer | nope | 20:31 |
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| SDuensin | Yet another market for them to half-ass. | 20:31 |
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| +perlDreamer | we'll have to see if the code lives up to the projected hype | 20:31 |
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| +perlDreamer | but know one thing for sure, it just got harder to sell WebGUI into Microsoft shops | 20:32 |
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| +perlDreamer | daviddelikat: key 99 is in the Asset and WebGUI namespaces | 20:32 |
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| SDuensin | "Microsoft Shops" worry me. Too much Kool-Aid drinking going around. | 20:33 |
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| daviddelikat | yeah I found it | 20:33 |
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| +perlDreamer | and it means Title in both cases | 20:33 |
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| daviddelikat | I'm just wondering if I should make my own or use that one. | 20:33 |
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| +perlDreamer | use that one | 20:33 |
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| +perlDreamer | We have plans to flatten the namespaces in i18n, which will result in a smaller translation pack. | 20:34 |
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| +perlDreamer | but for now, it makes the job of the translators easier | 20:34 |
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| daviddelikat | sounds like a great idea | 20:34 |
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| +perlDreamer | every once in a while, I go through and try to prune out duplicates | 20:34 |
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| +perlDreamer | but it's a lot of work | 20:34 |
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| +perlDreamer | and it almost guarantees breakage in private code | 20:35 |
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| daviddelikat | it would be a good start to have a set of standard items which are imported into all namespaces ( possibly with numeric codes to eliminate problems ) | 20:36 |
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| +perlDreamer | the importing into all namespaces is a problem | 20:36 |
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| daviddelikat | not really: %target = ( %part1, %part2 ); | 20:37 |
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| daviddelikat | just make sure that part1 is all text keys and part 2 is all numeric keys | 20:37 |
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| +perlDreamer | all of the old, original WebGUI keys are numeric | 20:38 |
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| +perlDreamer | but a lot of the newer ones aren't | 20:38 |
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| daviddelikat | that is the point | 20:39 |
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| +perlDreamer | so you wouldn't get all the useful ones | 20:39 |
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| daviddelikat | all the new custom keys are text | 20:39 |
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| +perlDreamer | like month and day names | 20:39 |
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| daviddelikat | perhaps the get function needs to have a map? | 20:40 |
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| +perlDreamer | get was tweaked to make it really fast | 20:41 |
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| daviddelikat | like: return $h1->{key} || $h2->{key} || $h1->{$map{key}} | 20:41 |
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| +perlDreamer | since i18n is one of the bottlenecks | 20:41 |
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| daviddelikat | i guess that would eliminate many of the ways that would make it handy... | 20:41 |
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| daviddelikat | fast and hany dont usually go together | 20:42 |
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| daviddelikat | s/hany/handy/ | 20:42 |
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| daviddelikat | I gotta git back to work | 20:42 |
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| +perlDreamer | YES! | 20:43 |
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| +perlDreamer | I've fixed the Survey bug | 20:43 |
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| +perlDreamer | it was a 1-line fix | 20:44 |
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| +perlDreamer | now I have to yard out 50-100 lines of alert and debug code... | 20:44 |
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| +perlDreamer | maybe I should check it in IE6, too | 20:46 |
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| +perlDreamer | are there any safari-using devs who could check out a JS patch for me? | 20:46 |
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| +perlDreamer | wait | 20:46 |
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| +perlDreamer | I... | 20:46 |
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| +perlDreamer | no, my VM is out of disk space | 20:47 |
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| +perlDreamer | still need a safari-using dev | 20:47 |
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| daviddelikat | I can peak | 20:47 |
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| daviddelikat | is this a url peak or an install and test peak? | 20:47 |
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| +perlDreamer | install and test peek | 20:47 |
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| daviddelikat | soryr, no time | 20:48 |
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| +perlDreamer | no swet | 20:48 |
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| +perlDreamer | sweat | 20:48 |
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| +patspam | perlDreamer: actually i lie, it has a basement.. does that qualify as 2 storeys? | 22:05 |
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| +perlDreamer | no | 22:05 |
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| +perlDreamer | storeys are above ground | 22:05 |
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| daviddelikat | EMS Submissions are functional | 22:06 |
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| daviddelikat | WooHoo! | 22:06 |
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| +perlDreamer | all right! | 22:06 |
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| daviddelikat | its only 1.5 weeks late | 22:06 |
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| +perlDreamer | what's the secret sauce for hoverhelp over JSON/XHR? | 22:07 |
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| daviddelikat | style sheet | 22:07 |
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| +perlDreamer | cool | 22:07 |
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| daviddelikat | I had wq-hoverhelp.js but not wq-hoverhelp.css | 22:07 |
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| daviddelikat | now I have to get the activity to commit changes... | 22:08 |
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| daviddelikat | so if an activity returns 'WAITING' does it come back with the same session? | 22:09 |
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| +perlDreamer | no | 22:12 |
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| +perlDreamer | if you need persistent data, store it in the Workflow Instance's scratch | 22:12 |
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| daviddelikat | I was trying to decide if I should commit when I return waiting or just when I return done | 22:12 |
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| daviddelikat | I think it should commit in both cases | 22:13 |
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| +perlDreamer | I don't know what you're trying to do, but in most cases "commit" happens way before any kind of post-processing or approval | 22:13 |
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| daviddelikat | because there is no particular connection between the items created | 22:13 |
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| daviddelikat | the submission is approved, and an EMSTicket record needs to be created | 22:14 |
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| +perlDreamer | that sounds like it should be an autocommit | 22:14 |
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| daviddelikat | if I process more than one row should I auto commit each row or just at the end? | 22:15 |
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| +perlDreamer | think about how a user might want to handle rolling back version tags to undo a commit | 22:16 |
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| daviddelikat | ooooh good catch | 22:16 |
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| daviddelikat | probably one at a time | 22:16 |
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| daviddelikat | thanks | 22:17 |
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| wgGuest72 | hi guys | 22:51 |
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| @Haarg | greetings | 22:51 |
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| @preaction | hi | 22:51 |
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| wgGuest72 | i am really new to webgui | 22:52 |
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| wgGuest72 | and am impressed by the sites that is running it right now | 22:52 |
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| wgGuest72 | want to try it | 22:52 |
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| wgGuest72 | but wont install | 22:52 |
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| wgGuest72 | any ideas? | 22:52 |
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| @preaction | what won't install? | 22:53 |
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| wgGuest72 | i wanna start off using my wamp server | 22:53 |
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| @preaction | debian package? perhaps try the vmware instance? | 22:53 |
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| @preaction | ah | 22:53 |
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| @preaction | so a source install | 22:53 |
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| wgGuest72 | yes | 22:53 |
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| wgGuest72 | am i doing something wrong | 22:54 |
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| @preaction | what is happening? | 22:54 |
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| wgGuest72 | or everything wrong? | 22:54 |
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| @preaction | http://www.webgui.org/community-wiki/source-install <- here's an.. okay.. document i keep meaning to update | 22:54 |
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| +perlDreamer | that document is pretty accurate | 22:55 |
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| +perlDreamer | I keep using it with no problems | 22:55 |
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| wgGuest72 | ok | 22:55 |
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| wgGuest72 | i will go there right away | 22:55 |
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| @preaction | yeah, if you skip the parts about compiling the crap you already have | 22:55 |
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| @preaction | it clutters the real instructions, in my opinion | 22:55 |
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| @preaction | start with the big header that says "WebGUI" | 22:55 |
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| +perlDreamer | maybe we need a "distribution" install page | 22:55 |
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| wgGuest72 | oh so perl is required for it to run? | 22:56 |
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| +perlDreamer | yes | 22:56 |
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| @preaction | yes | 22:56 |
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| +perlDreamer | it is not a Java or PHP or .NET application | 22:56 |
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| @preaction | it's a mod_perl system | 22:56 |
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| @preaction | oh, wait, wamp | 22:57 |
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| @preaction | that's windows, no? | 22:57 |
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| wgGuest72 | yes | 22:57 |
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| @preaction | you're going to be better off trying the vmware appliance on http://getwebgui.org | 22:57 |
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| wgGuest72 | ok wait..i have a web server | 22:57 |
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| wgGuest72 | so what files do i need to get it up and running | 22:58 |
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| +perlDreamer | running Linux, Unix, Solaris, FreeBSD, MacOS X? | 22:58 |
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| wgGuest72 | hmm | 22:58 |
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| @preaction | do you have command-line access to that web server? | 22:58 |
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| wgGuest72 | no i havent had a reason to use that | 22:58 |
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| wgGuest72 | so i guess i have more problems than i thought ..lol | 22:59 |
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| @preaction | well, that's really the only one. | 22:59 |
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| @preaction | but vmware player is free, and the vmware appliance is really easy to use | 22:59 |
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| +perlDreamer | preaction is right, try the VMWare appliance if you want to try WebGUI on windows | 22:59 |
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| @preaction | (you just start it up and then visit the right IP in your web browser) | 22:59 |
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| @preaction | otherwise demo.webgui.org works as well | 23:00 |
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| @preaction | well, for 24hrs at least | 23:00 |
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| xdanger | Translating is hard =) | 23:00 |
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| +perlDreamer | if you need help with terms, xdanger, we can help | 23:00 |
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| +perlDreamer | and kudos for translating! | 23:00 |
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| wgGuest72 | hmm | 23:00 |
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| wgGuest72 | ok great guys | 23:00 |
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| wgGuest72 | now these is a community | 23:01 |
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| xdanger | perlDreamer: I'm having hard time translating the term Asset. There is now direct translation.. | 23:01 |
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| xdanger | s/is now/is not/ | 23:02 |
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| +perlDreamer | How about "resource", or "item" ? | 23:02 |
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| @preaction | part? | 23:03 |
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| @preaction | object? | 23:03 |
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| +perlDreamer | Piece | 23:03 |
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| +perlDreamer | we should add those to the context for "Asset" in the main, English i18n | 23:03 |
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| @preaction | probably be a good idea | 23:04 |
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| +perlDreamer | I'm on it | 23:04 |
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| @preaction | but the single word "asset" is everywhere | 23:04 |
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| @preaction | but every little bit helps | 23:04 |
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| +perlDreamer | have you had a chance to think about the skipNotification thing, preaction? | 23:04 |
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| xdanger | item translates too closely to physical object | 23:05 |
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| +perlDreamer | that's how we think of them, xdanger | 23:05 |
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| xdanger | but it translates to object, stuff, part | 23:06 |
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| +perlDreamer | yes | 23:06 |
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| xdanger | it's not something that any finnish will understand | 23:06 |
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| xdanger | =) | 23:06 |
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| +perlDreamer | ah | 23:06 |
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| xdanger | Piece might work.. | 23:07 |
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| +perlDreamer | in that case, you'll have to pick something that doesn't translate directly, than Finn's will understand. | 23:07 |
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| xdanger | Piece/part | 23:07 |
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| @preaction | perlDreamer: no. i got some crappy-looking e-mails that appear to be from the Wiki though, so it at least works | 23:07 |
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| xdanger | like a part for the motor | 23:07 |
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| +perlDreamer | it works, you just can't ever turn it off | 23:08 |
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| @preaction | you mean skipNotification? | 23:09 |
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| +perlDreamer | yes | 23:09 |
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| CIA-53 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * re20223c / lib/WebGUI/Shop/Pay.pm : Remove debug code. - http://bit.ly/1VKHPz | 23:09 |
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| CIA-53 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * ra51d693 / lib/WebGUI/i18n/English/Asset.pm : Better define the word, "Asset" in the i18n. - http://bit.ly/2QkkEp | 23:09 |
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| CIA-53 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r0e70378 / lib/WebGUI/i18n/English/ShipDriver_USPS.pm : Clarify how the insurance rate table works. - http://bit.ly/2rYsYd | 23:09 |
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| @preaction | setSkipNotification doesn't work? | 23:09 |
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| +perlDreamer | maybe you could reread my email? I described how it's broken in there | 23:09 |
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| wgGuest72 | guys is the right one | 23:10 |
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| wgGuest72 | http://www.vmware.com/appliances/directory/1296 | 23:10 |
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| @preaction | ah, i haven't been checking e-mail because it means i have to perform the tasks outlined | 23:10 |
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| @preaction | wgGuest72: lord no, it's on sourceforge, one sec | 23:11 |
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| wgGuest72 | ok | 23:11 |
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| @preaction | it IS webgui, it's just very very old | 23:11 |
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| +perlDreamer | isn't it time to build a new one, for 7.7? | 23:11 |
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| @preaction | we have one, just not there | 23:11 |
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| wgGuest72 | ok | 23:11 |
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| xdanger | btw. has anyone implemented a resource reservation system? | 23:12 |
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| @preaction | here's one for 7.6, http://sourceforge.net/projects/pbwebgui/files/VMWare%20Appliances/WebGUI%207.6.20%20_%20WRE%200.9.2%20_%20CentOS%205/webgui-7.6.20-wre-0.9.2-centos-5.zip/download | 23:12 |
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| wgGuest72 | i use inmotionhosting..would anyone know if theysupport web gui | 23:12 |
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| @preaction | it's 1.2G, just a warning | 23:12 |
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| +perlDreamer | I've planned one, but not built it yet, xdanger | 23:12 |
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| wgGuest72 | great..am downloading as we speak | 23:13 |
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| +perlDreamer | xdanger, do you want me to email you what I've planned? | 23:14 |
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| +perlDreamer | it's fairly rough | 23:14 |
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| xdanger | I have a possible client that would require a reservation system for their truck washing service | 23:14 |
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| xdanger | sure | 23:14 |
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| wgGuest72 | guys i will be back tomorrow.. | 23:17 |
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| wgGuest72 | wanna be part of this community.. | 23:17 |
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| wgGuest72 | thanks for ur help so far | 23:17 |
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| +perlDreamer | You're welcome :) | 23:18 |
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| @preaction | bout time we got some props | 23:18 |
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| +perlDreamer | props? Are those like assets? | 23:19 |
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| @preaction | props respect kudos recognition high five mad props | 23:20 |
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| SDuensin | Someone needs to warn wgGuest72 that you already have a #1 fan. | 23:26 |
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| SynQ | morning | 23:28 |
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| SynQ | ;) | 23:28 |
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| SynQ | due to frequent requests by some people (patspam, joeri) I'm picking up wre development | 23:28 |
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| SynQ | is git version 1.5.6 new enough for me? | 23:28 |
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| +patspam | morning SynQ! | 23:29 |
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| +perlDreamer | that'll do it, SynQ | 23:29 |
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| SynQ | heya patspam | 23:29 |
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| SynQ | how it the usa doing? | 23:29 |
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| +patspam | but 1.6.x would be even better | 23:29 |
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| SynQ | well | 23:30 |
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| SynQ | if I can use the 'out of the box' version | 23:30 |
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| SynQ | for debian lenny | 23:30 |
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| SynQ | I'm quite satisfied | 23:30 |
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| @Haarg | it will work just fine, but whenever i use old versions i run into options that are missing | 23:30 |
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| +patspam | yeah me too! | 23:31 |
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| SynQ | ubuntu has 1.6.3 | 23:31 |
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| @Haarg | but the file formats are all compatible | 23:31 |
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| SynQ | I doubt I'm going to use very much of the options | 23:31 |
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| @preaction | you might be surprised once you find out how useful they are ;) | 23:31 |
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| SynQ | ok | 23:32 |
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| SynQ | we'll see | 23:32 |
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| SynQ | I'll get cracking on wre 0.9.4 then | 23:32 |
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| SynQ | since I am not the one who is going to tackle the 64bit stuff 1.x is not for me | 23:33 |
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| +perlDreamer | SynQ: will you be addressing the bug that was assigned to you? | 23:33 |
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| SynQ | that I will | 23:33 |
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| SynQ | and some others too | 23:33 |
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| @Haarg | git checkout --track is always the option i miss when using git 1.5.x | 23:34 |
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| +perlDreamer | Could someone please curse for me, for about 30 seconds? | 23:36 |
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| @preaction | depends on what i'm cursing you for | 23:37 |
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| +perlDreamer | for bad error checking, and not writing enough tests | 23:37 |
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| @preaction | bah, happens to the best of us | 23:38 |
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| @preaction | JT did one just the other day that you fixed, committed without even testing from the UI | 23:38 |
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| +perlDreamer | that's why I wrote the git pre-commit hook | 23:39 |
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| SynQ | having others curse for you is lame | 23:39 |
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| @preaction | i did one a while ago, the email that gets sent out for the wiki has the wrong user | 23:39 |
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| * perlDreamer will never write another syntax error again that gets committed | 23:39 |
| @preaction | at least, i don't thin... oh wait wait, that was JT that edited that wiki page, hence "Admin" | 23:39 |
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| @preaction | or else it was spectre that sent the message | 23:40 |
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| @preaction | anyway, i think something's wrong | 23:40 |
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| SynQ | perlDreamer: cursing done | 23:41 |
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| SynQ | it was hard, but I made it through that 30 seconds | 23:41 |
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| +perlDreamer | thanks, man | 23:41 |
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| +perlDreamer | I hope Emma didn't have to hear that | 23:41 |
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| +perlDreamer | it would blister her tender young ears | 23:41 |
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| SynQ | nope | 23:44 |
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| SynQ | she is asleep | 23:44 |
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| SynQ | so is Tessa | 23:44 |
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| SynQ | I have allready updated quite some packages | 23:45 |
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| SynQ | like libjpeg wich is now at version 7 (used to be 6b) | 23:45 |
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| SynQ | and apache and graphviz | 23:45 |
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| +perlDreamer | make sure you add Locales::Country | 23:47 |
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| +perlDreamer | and any other new ones from testEnvironment | 23:47 |
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| SynQ | I won't do 7.8 requirements in 0.9.4 | 23:48 |
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| SynQ | for that I will create a different WRE | 23:48 |
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| SynQ | right now I'm only updating 0.9.3 to something that isn't broken on my systems | 23:49 |
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| SynQ | cause 0.9.3 still uses some system libraries | 23:49 |
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| SynQ | which isn't right | 23:49 |
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| SynQ | and which makes it break on debian lenny with all packages updated | 23:50 |
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| SynQ | I'm after my own itch today | 23:50 |
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| * perlDreamer passes SynQ some Calamine lotion | 23:50 |
| * SynQ chops of some of his aloe vera to mix with that | 23:51 |
| @preaction | it's always going to need some system libs, like libc | 23:51 |
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| SynQ | but not like openssl libraries | 23:52 |
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| @preaction | i'd like to know what the WRE does that the python xml parsers don't like | 23:52 |
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| @preaction | or App::Nopaste | 23:52 |
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| SynQ | perl5.10.1 ? | 23:54 |
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| SynQ | would you like that? | 23:54 |
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| @preaction | indeed | 23:54 |
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| @preaction | fixes Test::Class issues | 23:54 |
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| SynQ | ok | 23:55 |
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| SynQ | that is going in | 23:55 |
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| CIA-53 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * rfc6acc7 / (3 files in 3 dirs): Change how the shipping driver throws errors. Fixes bug #11202. - http://bit.ly/14UpdN | 00:17 |
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| CIA-53 | webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.7 * r340097f / (3 files in 3 dirs): Change how the shipping driver throws errors. Fixes bug #11202. - http://bit.ly/4jXX4d | 00:17 |
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| xdanger | In the v2 of the admin console spec the edit function is under dropdown menu from the options of the asset? 99% of the time user wants to edit the asset, so shouldn't it be visible all the time? | 01:11 |
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| @preaction | xdanger: post your comments to the thread, i'm in-and-out and can't keep track of things right now | 01:12 |
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| CIA-53 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * rf9d97f2 / (2 files in 2 dirs): Always recreate the listener for the question and answer buttons, since their arguments change. Fixes bug #10985. - http://bit.ly/2vSuWx | 01:13 |
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| CIA-53 | webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.7 * re329f99 / (2 files in 2 dirs): Always recreate the listener for the question and answer buttons, since their arguments change. Fixes bug #10985. - http://bit.ly/4cUwBV | 01:13 |
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| +perlDreamer | woot! More javascript | 01:13 |
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| * perlDreamer is on a roll | 01:13 |
| * preaction butters perlDreamer | 01:13 |
| +perlDreamer | ew | 01:14 |
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| +perlDreamer | preaction, /me is going to commit the skipNotification code | 01:14 |
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| @preaction | k | 01:14 |
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| +perlDreamer | you can review it from repo sometime before 7.8.5 in 13 days? | 01:15 |
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| @preaction | yeah, i've kept your e-mail unread. monday i'll be catching up on everythig | 01:15 |
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| +perlDreamer | howdy, xdanger | 22:40 |
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| CIA-53 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r60d8ce3 / (4 files in 4 dirs): Fix name typos in the shopSaleNotificationGroupId. Fixes bug #11207 - http://bit.ly/2htwWJ | 23:15 |
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| CIA-53 | webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.7 * r942975d / (5 files in 4 dirs): Fix name typos in the shopSaleNotificationGroupId. Fixes bug #11207 - http://bit.ly/2L3Dbj | 23:15 |
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| CIA-53 | webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.7 * r1028e37 / lib/WebGUI/Shop/Admin.pm : Supply a value, and a default value for Shop/Admin. - http://bit.ly/4dN8ZF | 01:33 |
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| CIA-53 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * rc3727be / lib/WebGUI/Shop/Admin.pm : Supply a value, and a default value for Shop/Admin. - http://bit.ly/1B9Snh | 01:33 |
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| +perlDreamer | in git, is it possible to undo a branch merge after it's been committed? | 01:52 |
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| CIA-53 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r0aab1c1 / (3 files in 2 dirs): Fix POD whitespace issues in the EMS. - http://bit.ly/1ZMkp2 | 02:29 |
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| CIA-53 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r924686b / (2 files in 2 dirs): Fix more POD whitespace problems in the EMS. - http://bit.ly/28b1A2 | 02:29 |
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| CIA-53 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * rfc68756 / (2 files in 2 dirs): Update tests for changes to skipNotification. - http://bit.ly/2uTTqi | 02:29 |
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| +patspam | nasty bug! | 02:39 |
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| +patspam | anyone know what hangs around between requests in a modperl instance? | 02:41 |
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| +perlDreamer | the entire perl memory? | 02:44 |
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| +perlDreamer | patspam: do you know how to revert branches? | 02:44 |
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| +patspam | yes | 02:44 |
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| +patspam | just committed locally? | 02:44 |
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| +perlDreamer | no | 02:45 |
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| +patspam | ouch | 02:45 |
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| +perlDreamer | yes | 02:45 |
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| +perlDreamer | I've spent 1.5 hours fixing broken code and tests, and it's time to cut bait | 02:45 |
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| +patspam | probably not too hard actually | 02:45 |
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| +patspam | the merge commit is conceptually just another commit in the branch's timeline | 02:46 |
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| +patspam | it's just special in that it has more than 1 parent | 02:46 |
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| +perlDreamer | ah, that | 02:46 |
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| +perlDreamer | that's where the -m comes in | 02:46 |
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| +patspam | if it was only committed locally you'd obviously just reset HEAD to point to the pre-merge commit | 02:47 |
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| +patspam | but since you can't re-write the history now that everyone else can see it | 02:47 |
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| +patspam | I would think the sensible thing to do is just check in a new commit that results in all the files being in their pre-merge state | 02:48 |
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| +perlDreamer | isn't that what git revert -m will do for me? | 02:49 |
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| +perlDreamer | -m takes a parent number | 02:49 |
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| +perlDreamer | I just don't know which one is which | 02:49 |
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| +patspam | yeah that looks like the right command | 02:49 |
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| +patspam | gitk is good for visualising the history | 02:49 |
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| +patspam | or git-reflog | 02:50 |
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| +patspam | reflog will show you where the branch tip was before the merge | 02:50 |
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| +perlDreamer | gitk is showing me the parents | 02:53 |
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| +perlDreamer | which one is "1"? :) | 02:53 |
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| CIA-53 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r7aa60c7 / docs/upgrades/upgrade_7.8.3-7.8.4.pl : | 02:53 |
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| CIA-53 | webgui: Reverting EMS Submission Form. | 02:53 |
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| CIA-53 | webgui: This reverts commit 69a997aff9233c4e4edc3c67ec8f70af25b1ce64. - http://bit.ly/3i2omp | 02:53 |
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| CIA-53 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r4597dac / (6 files in 3 dirs): | 02:53 |
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| CIA-53 | webgui: Reverting EMS Submissions. | 02:53 |
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| CIA-53 | webgui: This reverts commit 6932ddfeb3e1baf52d0e91280732f8d893e7b841. - http://bit.ly/40hlpn | 02:53 |
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| +patspam | Survey's ExpressionEngine has a modperl instance caching bug, just took me about a day to find it | 02:55 |
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| +perlDreamer | ouch | 02:55 |
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| +patspam | gotta try to write a test case before i fix it | 02:55 |
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| +perlDreamer | that's not going to be fun | 02:56 |
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| +perlDreamer | going to use Mech? | 02:56 |
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| +patspam | only if i have to! | 02:56 |
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| +patspam | if i can recreate the bug in a regular perl process that'll be enough | 02:57 |
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| +perlDreamer | true | 02:57 |
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| +perlDreamer | I fixed some Survey JS bugs over the last few days | 02:57 |
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| +patspam | yeah the front-end ain't great | 02:58 |
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| +perlDreamer | it's better now, and i18n'ed | 02:58 |
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| +perlDreamer | found an example of branch revert | 03:03 |
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| +perlDreamer | http://www.gitready.com/intermediate/2009/03/16/rolling-back-changes-with-revert.html | 03:03 |
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| +perlDreamer | actually, the front-end bug was just cosmetic, since you can drag and drop stuff where you need it | 03:03 |
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| CIA-53 | webgui: Finish reverting EMS Submissions. | 04:47 |
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| CIA-53 | webgui: This reverts commit aab3a74026d28a69de00bcd250f5b697df70d802. - http://bit.ly/4fbcYF | 04:47 |
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| CIA-53 | webgui: Patrick Donelan webgui-7.7 * r2be2ab4 / (3 files in 3 dirs): | 05:31 |
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| CIA-53 | webgui: One-line fix for Survey ExpressionEngine bug that took over a day to find. | 05:31 |
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| CIA-53 | webgui: One of the file-scoped lexicals in ExpressionEngine wasn't being initialised, | 05:31 |
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| CIA-53 | webgui: which meant that tagged data was being cached across repeated engine runs | 05:31 |
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| CIA-53 | webgui: (including, would you believe, across modperl page requests). | 05:31 |
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| CIA-53 | webgui: The fix includes tests. - http://bit.ly/c3cEV | 05:31 |
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| CIA-53 | webgui: Patrick Donelan master * rbcd9994 / (3 files in 3 dirs): | 05:31 |
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| CIA-53 | webgui: One-line fix for Survey ExpressionEngine bug that took over a day to find. | 05:31 |
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| CIA-53 | webgui: One of the file-scoped lexicals in ExpressionEngine wasn't being initialised, | 05:31 |
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| CIA-53 | webgui: which meant that tagged data was being cached across repeated engine runs | 05:31 |
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| CIA-53 | webgui: (including, would you believe, across modperl page requests). | 05:31 |
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| CIA-53 | webgui: The fix includes tests. - http://bit.ly/6Y35B | 05:31 |
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| * patspam rejoices in bug fixedness | 05:31 |
| +perlDreamer | patspam, that hurts. | 05:31 |
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| +perlDreamer | yeah, and it makes perfect sense | 05:32 |
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| +perlDreamer | it's almost like the parallel cache problems that we fixed in the Shop | 05:33 |
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| +perlDreamer | patspam, would you hate me if I ask you to revert those until after I finish the releases? | 05:33 |
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| +perlDreamer | it'll mess up the tagging | 05:33 |
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| +patspam | for sure | 05:34 |
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| +patspam | sorry didn't realise you were releasing | 05:34 |
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| +perlDreamer | it's an emergency, off-time release | 05:35 |
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| +perlDreamer | many bad Shop bugs | 05:35 |
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| CIA-53 | webgui: Patrick Donelan master * r5899fa4 / (3 files in 3 dirs): | 05:38 |
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| CIA-53 | webgui: Revert "One-line fix for Survey ExpressionEngine bug that took over a day to find." | 05:38 |
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| CIA-53 | webgui: This reverts commit bcd99945ca343db94e40676dec749c8c4744f6dd. - http://bit.ly/25a1kt | 05:38 |
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| CIA-53 | webgui: Patrick Donelan webgui-7.7 * r51c987d / (3 files in 3 dirs): | 05:38 |
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| CIA-53 | webgui: Revert "One-line fix for Survey ExpressionEngine bug that took over a day to find." | 05:38 |
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| CIA-53 | webgui: This reverts commit 2be2ab4428988917d11d33bec801a7264aa1fd5e. - http://bit.ly/y0kJY | 05:38 |
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| +perlDreamer | one down, one to go | 05:55 |
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| CIA-53 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * rec38f50 / (4 files in 4 dirs): Ready for 7.8.5 development cycle. - http://bit.ly/3w7HFv | 06:00 |
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| +patspam | perlDreamer - I'm about to crash out, are you cool to un-revert that Survey bugfix for me? | 06:06 |
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| +patspam | once the release is done, that is | 06:07 |
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| +perlDreamer | I'm not sure how to | 06:07 |
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| +perlDreamer | do I just revert the reversion | 06:07 |
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| +patspam | what's the ETA on the release? | 06:07 |
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| +perlDreamer | 2.5 hours more | 06:07 |
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| +perlDreamer | I have to release both branches | 06:08 |
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| @preaction | you can cherry-pick the original revision again | 06:08 |
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| +perlDreamer | ah, cool | 06:08 |
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| +perlDreamer | it's covered, patspam | 06:08 |
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| +perlDreamer | you are go for crash | 06:08 |
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| +patspam | sweet, thanks! | 06:08 |
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| * patspam goes crash | 06:08 |
| +perlDreamer | how's DC, preaction? | 06:08 |
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| @preaction | much fun indeed | 06:09 |
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| @preaction | thinking about moving out here | 06:09 |
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| +perlDreamer | wow | 06:09 |
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| +perlDreamer | that is fun | 06:09 |
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| @preaction | lots of hot single chicks, nice locale, good public trans, just expensive as all get-out | 06:10 |
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| @preaction | but then, this could be 4 drinks talking | 06:10 |
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| * perlDreamer advises to look for nice, single chicks. Hot ones can burn you | 06:10 |
| @preaction | but not really, cuz i was thinking like this before 4 drinks | 06:10 |
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| +perlDreamer | but I'm also an old, married man | 06:11 |
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| @preaction | oh no, no need to warn me there | 06:11 |
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| @preaction | Hot, Smart, Sane, pick two | 06:11 |
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| @preaction | (or Sexy Smart Sane, if you like alliteration) | 06:11 |
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| @preaction | so 7.8.4 is an emergency bugfix for the Shop bug? | 06:12 |
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| +perlDreamer | yes | 06:12 |
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| +perlDreamer | so is 7.7.25 | 06:12 |
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| @preaction | k | 06:12 |
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| +perlDreamer | we do know now that Spectre cannot handle 10,000 emails quickly | 06:13 |
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| @preaction | saw the panic going on at TGC | 06:13 |
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| @preaction | heh, i knew that ;) | 06:13 |
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| @preaction | 40,000 takes 3 days | 06:13 |
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| +perlDreamer | yeah, I've probably single handedly sunk TGC | 06:13 |
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| @preaction | even after maxing out sendmail settings | 06:13 |
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| @preaction | oh pshaw | 06:13 |
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| @preaction | the naysayers can go screw | 06:13 |
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| @preaction | it was 5 orders, maybe | 06:14 |
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| +perlDreamer | that's the drinks talking | 06:14 |
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| @preaction | now you're just being hurtful, but i'll let that go | 06:15 |
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| +perlDreamer | it's been a rough day, preaction, I'm sorry | 06:15 |
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| +perlDreamer | I was supposed to build the International USPS shipping plugin | 06:15 |
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| +perlDreamer | but instead spent it cleaning up bugs | 06:15 |
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| @preaction | no worries, relax, it's late. do what you need to and take a day off | 06:16 |
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| +perlDreamer | I may do that | 06:20 |
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| +perlDreamer | or half a day, anyway | 06:20 |
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| +perlDreamer | holy crap! | 06:22 |
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| +perlDreamer | world's most expensive board game | 06:22 |
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| daviddelikat | ok heres my test script: http://webgui.pastebin.com/d1b6c1ee6 | 06:23 |
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| daviddelikat | think it'll work? | 06:23 |
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| +perlDreamer | yes | 06:25 |
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| +perlDreamer | but how will we tell if it passed or failed? | 06:26 |
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| daviddelikat | by looking at the big.test.log | 06:26 |
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| +perlDreamer | also, have a look at http://smoke.plainblack.com/ | 06:26 |
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| daviddelikat | ideally it would email the log or a link to it | 06:26 |
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| +perlDreamer | Haarg modified buildbot to make that site | 06:27 |
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| daviddelikat | so there is an automatic test system... | 06:28 |
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| daviddelikat | quite amazing | 06:28 |
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| +perlDreamer | yes, but it's broken | 06:28 |
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| daviddelikat | I like the way the little boxes work | 06:28 |
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| +perlDreamer | preaction has been wanting to build one in perl called Cradle | 06:28 |
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| daviddelikat | whats broken? | 06:29 |
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| +perlDreamer | I don't know the details, but it's not making reports anymore | 06:29 |
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| +perlDreamer | we can ask Mr. Haarg tomorrow what's up | 06:33 |
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| daviddelikat | my little tester is having lots of failures... | 06:33 |
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| daviddelikat | I did not restart the servers though... | 06:33 |
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| daviddelikat | or do a reset. | 06:34 |
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| +perlDreamer | since you did an addsite, you shouldn't need to | 06:34 |
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| daviddelikat | I won't be around tomorrow | 06:34 |
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| +perlDreamer | I'll ask Haarg, or you could post to the dev list | 06:34 |
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| daviddelikat | I think that I definitely should have reset the servers | 06:35 |
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| daviddelikat | getting lots of spectre errors | 06:35 |
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| +perlDreamer | what's the good word, tavisto? | 06:43 |
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| +perlDreamer | yay, it's done | 07:13 |
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| CIA-53 | webgui: Patrick Donelan master * r804dbcf / (3 files in 3 dirs): | 07:14 |
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| CIA-53 | webgui: One-line fix for Survey ExpressionEngine bug that took over a day to find. | 07:14 |
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| CIA-53 | webgui: One of the file-scoped lexicals in ExpressionEngine wasn't being initialised, | 07:14 |
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| CIA-53 | webgui: which meant that tagged data was being cached across repeated engine runs | 07:14 |
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| CIA-53 | webgui: (including, would you believe, across modperl page requests). | 07:14 |
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| CIA-53 | webgui: The fix includes tests. - http://bit.ly/2RC7LQ | 07:14 |
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| CIA-53 | webgui: Patrick Donelan webgui-7.7 * ra396584 / (3 files in 3 dirs): | 07:14 |
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| CIA-53 | webgui: One-line fix for Survey ExpressionEngine bug that took over a day to find. | 07:14 |
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| CIA-53 | webgui: One of the file-scoped lexicals in ExpressionEngine wasn't being initialised, | 07:14 |
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| CIA-53 | webgui: which meant that tagged data was being cached across repeated engine runs | 07:14 |
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| CIA-53 | webgui: (including, would you believe, across modperl page requests). | 07:14 |
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| CIA-53 | webgui: The fix includes tests. - http://bit.ly/2AbNQA | 07:14 |
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| CIA-53 | webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.7 * rc71a910 / (4 files in 4 dirs): Ready for 7.7.26 development cycle. - http://bit.ly/1azGoE | 07:14 |
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| +perlDreamer | releases are all done | 07:37 |
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| +BartJol | preaction? | 12:12 |
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| wgGuest78 | www.webgui.org | 13:35 |
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| SquOnk | Hi everyone | 16:05 |
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| SDuensin | Morning | 16:29 |
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| +BartJol | SDuensin: those microsoft citations are better now | 17:58 |
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| SDuensin | Really? They changed them? | 17:58 |
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| +BartJol | yeah, unfortunately | 17:59 |
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| +BartJol | but we have the screenshots | 17:59 |
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| SDuensin | Just proves how stupid they were. :-) | 17:59 |
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| +BartJol | can we use those for blackmailing them? | 18:00 |
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| SDuensin | Give 'em to /. | 18:00 |
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| +BartJol | ah, that might be good | 18:01 |
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| +BartJol | but they're not my copyright | 18:01 |
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| SDuensin | Yea, MS certainly has the copyright on stupid. | 18:03 |
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| +BartJol | well, there are different versions, which fall under differnt licences | 18:07 |
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| CIA-53 | webgui: JT Smith master * r1304bf3 / (docs/changelog/7.x.x.txt lib/WebGUI/Form/Captcha.pm): The captcha form control had it's built in styles removed in favor of two classes: "wg-captchaForm" and "wg-captchaImage" - http://bit.ly/tz1kc | 18:11 |
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| +BartJol | well, rfe rejected, with the comment what I should ask, a rfe is quickly committed | 18:34 |
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| CIA-53 | wrebuild: JT Smith master * r505ce40 / (wre/docs/changelog.txt wre/sbin/wreconsole.pl): Fixed wreconsole crashes (#11208) - http://bit.ly/3xA6y5 | 19:10 |
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| +perlDreamer | morning, folks | 20:35 |
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| @Haarg | morning | 20:37 |
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| +perlDreamer | Haarg, is the github repo okay this morning? | 20:39 |
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| @Haarg | that tag may be off | 20:41 |
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| +perlDreamer | I'll look into it | 20:49 |
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| +perlDreamer | any suggestions on where to put the git pre-commit hook into the repository? | 20:49 |
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| +perlDreamer | I'm thinking a top level dev directory | 20:49 |
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| +perlDreamer | we can put the perltidy RC file, the Perl::Critic config file in there too | 20:49 |
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| SquOnk | perlDreamer: Hi there | 20:50 |
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| @Haarg | i think we want to leave the perltidy file where it is | 20:50 |
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| @Haarg | so it gets used automatically | 20:50 |
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| SquOnk | perlDreamer, Haarg: How's the SynCon encoding bug doing these days? | 20:50 |
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| @Haarg | no real progress | 20:50 |
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| SquOnk | :( | 20:50 |
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| SquOnk | Haarg: Have you pinpointed more or less what the problem is? | 20:51 |
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| @Haarg | i know why it happens | 20:51 |
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| @Haarg | but if i change that i know it is going to break another case that was fixed in the past | 20:51 |
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| @Haarg | i need to get the tests working, but right now i can't get it to load a file that is using cyrillic | 20:53 |
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| +perlDreamer | Haarg, I'll make the directory, put the git hook in there, and update wgd to ignore the whole directory when doing a dist. | 20:54 |
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| +perlDreamer | we can add/move stuff in there later if we wish | 20:54 |
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| @Haarg | i may write another commit hook that does the same thing but only for files modified in the commit | 20:55 |
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| +perlDreamer | that would run faster | 20:55 |
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| +perlDreamer | just be sure you don't put 2>&1 at the end of it, like I did | 20:55 |
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| +perlDreamer | I'll hold off and let you do it, then | 20:56 |
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| @Haarg | well, i think it would be better to just use prove | 20:56 |
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| +perlDreamer | probably | 20:57 |
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| SDuensin | Use: 2>&1 > justincase.log | 21:23 |
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| +perlDreamer | no, Haarg is right. prove is designed for aggregating and summarizing TAP data | 21:23 |
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| +perlDreamer | what I did was just silly | 21:23 |
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| CIA-53 | webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.7 * rc47bc2d / (2 files in 2 dirs): Update tree nav template to open ancestors, and self. Fixes bug #11134 - http://bit.ly/1rGFHq | 21:24 |
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| CIA-53 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r274e82e / (2 files in 2 dirs): Update tree nav template to open ancestors, and self. Fixes bug #11134 - http://bit.ly/10RZjD | 21:24 |
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| CIA-53 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * rc10363b / (docs/changelog/7.x.x.txt lib/WebGUI/Operation/Group.pm): Set a default for groups in addGroupsToGroupSave. Fixes bug #11203 - http://bit.ly/2CnaH2 | 21:34 |
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| +perlDreamer | I'm going running | 21:47 |
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| SDuensin | Too good not to share. http://failblog.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/epic-fail-security-check-fail.jpg | 22:05 |
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| @tavisto | wow Sduesin, what type of websites are you visiting | 23:39 |
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| @tavisto | j/k I see the failblog | 23:39 |
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| CIA-53 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r82e7e80 / (2 files in 2 dirs): Fix bug #11101. Folders from an earlier upgrade had their package flag set. - http://bit.ly/4iNPEd | 00:06 |
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| CIA-53 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * rd4ca728 / docs/upgrades/upgrade_7.8.4-7.8.5.pl : Reset isPackage and isDefault on every asset from the 7.6.35 to 7.7.17 upgrade. Fixes bug #11115 and #11106 - http://bit.ly/1VDVwt | 00:06 |
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| SquOnk | I need to create a special Auth plugin. I understand a subclass of WebGUI::Auth is needed. What are the minimal set of methods needed? | 00:19 |
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| SquOnk | Is there any documentation on the subject I can read, besides WebGUI::Auth's source? | 00:19 |
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| +perlDreamer | not really | 00:19 |
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| +perlDreamer | and wg8 will obsolete your plugin | 00:19 |
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| SquOnk | perlDreamer: I can live with that :-) | 00:20 |
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| +perlDreamer | WebGUI::Auth is not really OO based | 00:20 |
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| +perlDreamer | it's more plugin based | 00:20 |
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| +perlDreamer | you probably need to implement ALL methods that Auth::WebGUI does | 00:20 |
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| SquOnk | perlDreamer: I see. | 00:20 |
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| SquOnk | perlDreamer: This bank is going to use WebGUI for it's banking application. We'll build an Asset to do so, but authentication must be done through some webservices they provide | 00:21 |
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| SquOnk | perlDreamer: Using LDAP is out of the question because the online banking users aren't there and "for your security" the only way to access that info is through the webservices. | 00:23 |
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| +perlDreamer | makes sense | 00:23 |
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| SquOnk | perlDreamer: So we're writing WebGUI::Auth::Bankname | 00:23 |
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| +perlDreamer | SquOnk, dannymk is the only dev I know who has written an Auth plugin in the last 5 years | 00:55 |
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| vayde | hey preaction, perlDreamer | 01:21 |
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| vayde | how you guys been? | 01:22 |
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| +perlDreamer | hey, vayde! | 01:22 |
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| vayde | long time no type | 01:22 |
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| vayde | what you been up to? | 01:22 |
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| +perlDreamer | lots of hacking | 01:22 |
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| +perlDreamer | I'm fulltime now | 01:22 |
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| vayde | awesome | 01:22 |
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| vayde | same outfit? | 01:22 |
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| +perlDreamer | no, working for myself now | 01:23 |
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| +perlDreamer | www.perldreamer.com | 01:23 |
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| vayde | congrats! | 01:23 |
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| vayde | that's awesome! | 01:23 |
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| +perlDreamer | thanks :) | 01:23 |
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| +perlDreamer | how 'bout yourself? | 01:24 |
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| vayde | still with US Bank | 01:24 |
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| vayde | I'm their chief apache/linux guy I guess you could say | 01:24 |
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| +perlDreamer | cool | 01:25 |
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| vayde | sorta the resident in hose open source dark lord | 01:25 |
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| vayde | they really should use webgui, but they have their own thing | 01:25 |
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| vayde | I'm so lucky to have worked briefly with PB before coming there | 01:26 |
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| +perlDreamer | they'll learn | 01:26 |
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| vayde | no, I doubt it. | 01:26 |
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| +perlDreamer | really? | 01:26 |
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| vayde | no, they'll move off perl to some sort of java thing | 01:26 |
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| vayde | with a cobol backend | 01:26 |
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| vayde | cos that's how the suits like to think | 01:26 |
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| vayde | so, I'm down recoving from surgery, and finally have time to play a bit with webgui again | 01:28 |
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| vayde | one problem, the wre tarball doesn't seem to have a wre.conf | 01:28 |
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| vayde | is there a standard/basic/example somewhere? | 01:28 |
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| +perlDreamer | I think everyone is using the wreconsole to build that nowadays | 01:29 |
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| +perlDreamer | but not being a big WRE user, I couldn't tell you one way or the other | 01:29 |
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| vayde | yeah, it won't start withot the conf | 01:29 |
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| vayde | mostly you build it from source yourself? | 01:29 |
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| +perlDreamer | yeah | 01:30 |
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| vayde | yeah, I'll probably just go do that | 01:30 |
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| vayde | easier | 01:30 |
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| +perlDreamer | I still run everything on Fedora | 01:30 |
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| +perlDreamer | for now | 01:30 |
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| +perlDreamer | It's starting to make me mad | 01:30 |
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| vayde | heh | 01:30 |
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| +perlDreamer | because their perl is so slow | 01:30 |
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| vayde | I have to support rhel at work, and I do, but I'll stay ubuntu at home | 01:30 |
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| vayde | so, when did you switch from kernel hacking to webgui support? | 01:31 |
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| +perlDreamer | kernel hacking? | 01:31 |
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| +perlDreamer | I was a chip designer | 01:31 |
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| vayde | oh yeah, right, that was it | 01:32 |
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| vayde | It's been a while man, | 01:32 |
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| +perlDreamer | I know | 01:32 |
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| vayde | and I'm still not all here. | 01:32 |
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| vayde | majorly cut up | 01:32 |
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| +perlDreamer | Why did you have surgery? | 01:32 |
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| vayde | severe apnea | 01:32 |
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| vayde | strangling 106 times per hour on average while I slept | 01:32 |
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| vayde | makes life.... unpleasant | 01:32 |
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| vayde | so my whole throat area has been reconstructed | 01:33 |
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| vayde | it's a mess | 01:33 |
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| +perlDreamer | good thing we're doing this via IRC instead of Skype | 01:33 |
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| vayde | heh, yeah, my speaking voice aint much atm | 01:33 |
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| vayde | I think I sound like a muppet | 01:33 |
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| +perlDreamer | Hey, maybe Henson Studios is hiring | 01:34 |
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| vayde | could be | 01:34 |
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| vayde | but I'd be lost without a bash shell | 01:35 |
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| +perlDreamer | Lots of bashing goes on with the Muppets | 01:36 |
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| vayde | rofl I stand corrected | 01:36 |
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| +perlDreamer | man, getting international shipping data from the USPS is hard | 01:38 |
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| +perlDreamer | they just vomited this huge XML chunk back at me | 01:38 |
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| +perlDreamer | maybe Data::Dumper will help | 01:39 |
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| David_ | hello i am trygin to upgrade 7.6.35 to 7.7.x and i am getting this error Adding account activation template to settings... DBD::mysql::st execute failed: Duplicate entry 'webguiAccountActivationTemplate' for key 1 at ../lib/WebGUI/SQL/ResultSet.pm line 137. | 03:59 |
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| David_ | anybody can help please | 03:59 |
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| +perlDreamer | daviddelikat, daviddelikat1, I'm here early | 00:00 |
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| +perlDreamer | does anyone know how much an ITransact merchant account costs? | 00:08 |
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| CIA-53 | WebGUI: translation * r12401 /translations/German/German/Asset_EventManagementSystem.pm: Updating German on translation server | 00:38 |
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| CIA-53 | WebGUI: translation * r12402 /translations/German/German/Asset_Survey.pm: Updating German on translation server | 00:38 |
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| CIA-53 | WebGUI: translation * r12403 /translations/German/German/ (ShipDriver_UPS.pm ShipDriver_USPS.pm): Updating German on translation server | 00:53 |
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| CIA-53 | WebGUI: translation * r12404 /translations/German/German/ShipDriver_UPS.pm: Updating German on translation server | 02:27 |
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| elnino | hi all. isn't fedora the beta of suse? | 05:57 |
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| @preaction | no, fedora is the beta of redhat | 05:57 |
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| elnino | oh. ok. thanks. | 05:58 |
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| elnino | all going well? | 05:58 |
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| elnino | umm. I went to webgui.org, clicked on download, clicked on "webgui runtime environment" and was redirected to http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=51417&package_id=148913 and got a blank screen in FF3. Bad link? or is sourceforge down? | 06:08 |
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| elnino | ie doens't work either. | 06:09 |
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| @preaction | seems like sf is down | 06:10 |
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| elnino | ok. thx. | 06:10 |
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| elnino | there is a fedora distribution for wre, right? | 06:14 |
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| elnino | that's all I wanted to know. | 06:14 |
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| @preaction | i'm not sure, but the redhat one should work | 06:14 |
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| elnino | g'nite all! | 06:21 |
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| CIA-53 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r7b5b493 / (lib/WebGUI/Macro/NewMail.pm t/Macro/NewMail.t): Add tests for NewMail macro. Small refactoring for NewMail macro. - http://bit.ly/2R1h8w | 19:14 |
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| +perlDreamer | daviddelikat2, daviddelikat3, I'm here for a bit | 04:16 |
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| +perlDreamer | patspam, I may be ready to join the Ubuntu throng | 04:17 |
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| @preaction | oooh | 04:17 |
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| +perlDreamer | I upgraded from FC10 to FC11 | 04:18 |
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| +perlDreamer | and it didn't do the whole upgrade | 04:18 |
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| +perlDreamer | GRUB was completely broken | 04:18 |
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| @preaction | weird | 04:18 |
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| +perlDreamer | and I had to hand upgrade 500 packages | 04:18 |
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| @preaction | ouch | 04:18 |
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| +perlDreamer | how was your week in DC, preaction? | 04:19 |
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| @preaction | had a lot of fun, got a lot of work done | 04:19 |
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| @preaction | exhausting but good | 04:19 |
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| @preaction | wrote a whole new way to recover passwords for the Alumni group, hopefully I can see if it meets JT's muster | 04:20 |
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| @preaction | it's a lot more intuitive than the one we have | 04:20 |
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| +perlDreamer | cool | 04:20 |
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| @preaction | and cleaner, code-wise | 04:20 |
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| +perlDreamer | sounds like it might be good for 8 | 04:20 |
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| @preaction | i'd hope for 7.9 if possible | 04:20 |
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| @preaction | i've also been exploring Flex, and there are some really interesting things here | 04:21 |
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| +perlDreamer | someone volunteered to help write macro tests | 04:21 |
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| +perlDreamer | Flex? | 04:21 |
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| +perlDreamer | like bison? | 04:21 |
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| +perlDreamer | yacc? | 04:21 |
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| @preaction | Flex == Flash for programmers | 04:21 |
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| +perlDreamer | Someone just put out a Hulu viewer in HTML 5 | 04:21 |
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| +perlDreamer | Flash could die | 04:21 |
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| +perlDreamer | and it would be good | 04:22 |
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| @preaction | nah, it won't | 04:22 |
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| @preaction | with AIR, flash moved to the desktop | 04:22 |
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| @preaction | they're working on a flash runtime for the iPhone | 04:22 |
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| @preaction | i agree that flash for video is pass?, but flash for games and/or internet applications is coming up | 04:22 |
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| @preaction | games not like little minigames, but full MMOs and FPSs and RTS and etc... | 04:23 |
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| +perlDreamer | you really think so? | 04:23 |
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| @preaction | yep | 04:23 |
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| @preaction | AIR works on linux, for example, even if the flash plugins do not | 04:24 |
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| @preaction | imagine desktop apps that interact with WebGUI sites | 04:24 |
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| @preaction | and a flash app for those who don't want to install the desktop app | 04:24 |
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| @preaction | and i would really really like to know why Ant just does not work on my system... | 04:27 |
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| +perlDreamer | I'd like to know why Flash doesn't work on my system | 04:28 |
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| @preaction | because Adobe are jerks | 04:28 |
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| +perlDreamer | my kids can't play the tweetsie train game anymore | 04:30 |
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| +perlDreamer | that is terrible | 04:30 |
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| +perlDreamer | very odd | 04:46 |
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| +perlDreamer | ah ha! | 04:47 |
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| +perlDreamer | the secret to flash support under FC11 is to remove libflashsupport | 04:47 |
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| @preaction | that's a little bit counter-intuitive ;) | 05:00 |
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| +perlDreamer | oh no it isn't | 05:01 |
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| +perlDreamer | oh yes it is | 05:01 |
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| +perlDreamer | oh no it isn't | 05:01 |
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| elnino | hi! | 05:14 |
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| elnino | this is beeen bugging me for a while, and I don't know if it's my system or not, search on cs JUST doesn't work. | 05:15 |
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| elnino | sorry, not cs, but a wiki | 05:15 |
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| elnino | I have a wiki called blogs | 05:15 |
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| elnino | and the search doesn't pick it up when I search blog or blogs | 05:15 |
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| elnino | do I have to do a reindex of a search or something? or ??? | 05:16 |
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| daviddelikat3 | well I just pushed the EMS sumbission system -- again | 06:22 |
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| daviddelikat3 | and it was SOME Bission | 06:22 |
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| daviddelikat3 | or was it SUB Mission | 06:23 |
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| daviddelikat3 | cant remember | 06:23 |
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| +perlDreamer | let's pull and double check, just in case | 06:39 |
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| +perlDreamer | daviddelikat3, there are still dav::log calls in there... | 06:41 |
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| CIA-53 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r8568323 / lib/WebGUI/Workflow/Activity/CleanupEMSSubmissions.pm : Fix syntax errors. - http://bit.ly/1KYUdr | 06:48 |
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| +perlDreamer | also, there were bad symlinks checked in | 06:57 |
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| +perlDreamer | it's all cleaned up, and I'm rerunning the test suite to double check | 06:57 |
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| +perlDreamer | test suite is clean | 07:07 |
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| CIA-53 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r736166e / t/Search.t : Use the right test with the right comment. - http://bit.ly/1PASrQ | 07:07 |
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| CIA-53 | webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.7 * r9178de0 / t/Search.t : Use the right test with the right comment. - http://bit.ly/1opLVl | 07:07 |
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| CIA-53 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * rd8af803 / lib/WebGUI/Paginator.pm : Clarify POD for the setAlphabeticalKey method. - http://bit.ly/47z9XO | 08:11 |
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| CIA-53 | webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.7 * r1d9ec02 / (t/DatabaseLink.t t/lib/WebGUI/Test.pm): Test cleanup and tracking of Database Links. - http://bit.ly/2FRmxl | 08:43 |
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| CIA-53 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * rdbf86bb / (t/DatabaseLink.t t/lib/WebGUI/Test.pm): Test cleanup and tracking of Database Links. - http://bit.ly/2zm8eV | 08:43 |
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| CIA-53 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r1c20f13 / (lib/WebGUI/DatabaseLink.pm t/Macro/SQL.t): 100% coverage on t/Macro/SQL.t. Refactor DatabaseLink. - http://bit.ly/277Lgq | 08:54 |
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| CIA-53 | webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.7 * r50474a5 / (lib/WebGUI/DatabaseLink.pm t/Macro/SQL.t): 100% coverage on t/Macro/SQL.t. Refactor DatabaseLink. - http://bit.ly/yid5l | 08:54 |
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| SDuensin | Morning. | 16:03 |
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| +perlDreamer | good morning, webgui folks! | 18:01 |
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| SDuensin | Ugh. Not so loud. | 18:01 |
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| @Haarg | morning perlDreamer | 18:04 |
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| +perlDreamer | had any SQL cleanup epiphanies, Haarg? | 18:05 |
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| @Haarg | my immediate thought about that was to have addToCleanup also accept sub references and add them to the cleanup code. but that won't be ideal if we want to do SQL in a lot of places. | 18:06 |
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| @Haarg | the other option is just to add a new sub for SQL cleanup | 18:08 |
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| SDuensin | SQL cleanup? Like no JSON in the DB? :-P | 18:08 |
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| +perlDreamer | this is just for tests, SDuensin | 18:20 |
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| SDuensin | Hey, I gotta get my shots in when I can! | 18:20 |
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| +perlDreamer | if we can remove every END block in all the tests, we can use a certain perl module to help us speed them up | 18:20 |
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| +perlDreamer | Haarg, having addToCleanup accept anonymous subs would not only handle SQL issues, but all other cleanup type stuff as well | 18:27 |
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| @Haarg | yeah, that was my thought | 18:27 |
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| +perlDreamer | although I don't know how much more of that we're going to need | 18:27 |
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| +perlDreamer | why wouldn't it work in lots of places? | 18:28 |
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| @Haarg | it would work, but if we need to run arbitrary sql in a lot of places it isn't ideal | 18:29 |
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| CIA-53 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r0873e7a / README : Remove file imported from UPS branch - http://bit.ly/ztt0F | 18:33 |
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| +perlDreamer | morning, BartJol | 19:03 |
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| +BartJol | g'devening sir | 19:03 |
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| +perlDreamer | did you see we had a new person volunteer to start writing tests? | 19:06 |
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| +BartJol | yes lrobinson right? | 19:07 |
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| +perlDreamer | yeah! | 19:07 |
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| +BartJol | I know her from semthing... | 19:07 |
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| +perlDreamer | the email said, "Luke" | 19:08 |
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| +BartJol | oh | 19:08 |
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| +perlDreamer | but perhaps you're thinking crobinson? | 19:08 |
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| +BartJol | then I'm totally wrong | 19:08 |
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| +BartJol | perlDreamer: did you hear Joeri is daddy? | 19:11 |
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| +perlDreamer | I did hear that | 19:11 |
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| +perlDreamer | does the baby have a name? | 19:11 |
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| +BartJol | alas, no first news | 19:11 |
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| +BartJol | Elsa Sophie | 19:11 |
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| +BartJol | Zeestraten (leonie's family name) | 19:11 |
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| +perlDreamer | so she doesn't have Joeri's surname? | 19:12 |
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| +BartJol | nope | 19:13 |
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| +BartJol | but, don't worry, you won't be able to pronounce that either | 19:13 |
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| +perlDreamer | de Bruin is easy to pronounce | 19:13 |
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| dreamersgirl | :) | 19:13 |
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| dreamersgirl | Tell him congratulations if you see him! | 19:13 |
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| +BartJol | I will, not sure when, but he's online now | 19:15 |
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| +perlDreamer | maybe we could all chip in and send Joeri one of these: http://www.thinkgeek.com/geek-kids/newborn-infant/c754/ | 19:17 |
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| +BartJol | mmm | 19:17 |
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| +BartJol | dreamersgirl: Joeri sends his regards and thanks | 19:17 |
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| dreamersgirl | :) | 19:18 |
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| dreamersgirl | I like this one better: http://www.thinkgeek.com/tshirts-apparel/kids/59cc/ | 19:18 |
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| +BartJol | now he's of for dinner | 19:18 |
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| dreamersgirl | what is his handle? | 19:19 |
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| +BartJol | er? | 19:19 |
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| +perlDreamer | dapperedodo | 19:19 |
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| +BartJol | eeeh, i thought lovehandle... | 19:20 |
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| dreamersgirl | that's what i thought. he wasn't in channel, was he? or am i losing my mind? | 19:22 |
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| +BartJol | no he wasn't | 19:22 |
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| +perlDreamer | no, he wasn't in here | 19:22 |
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| +BartJol | he was online, only for me | 19:22 |
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| +perlDreamer | you are losing your mind, though | 19:22 |
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| +perlDreamer | only 3 hour of sleep last night! | 19:22 |
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| * perlDreamer reminds dreamersgirl of the negative effects of lack of sleep on endocrine and hormonal functioning | 19:23 |
| dreamersgirl | funny--topic of the day is mood disorders | 19:23 |
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| +BartJol | it seems I'm just confused | 19:24 |
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| dreamersgirl | no, BartJol. I am. And now I'm spreading confusion around. Sorry. | 19:24 |
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| dreamersgirl | I'm in class right now and the professor is discussing mood disorders--depression, bipolar disorder, etc. | 19:25 |
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| +BartJol | now, I'm getting confused, I thought I was confused, but it was only you, but now I'm getting confused, so yoiu are less confused? | 19:25 |
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| +BartJol | is there a balance? | 19:25 |
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| dreamersgirl | exactly | 19:25 |
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| +BartJol | ah | 19:25 |
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| +BartJol | didn't know that | 19:26 |
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| dreamersgirl | maybe i should pay more attention in class. that may help my confusion.... | 19:27 |
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| +BartJol | DO NOT FOCUS! | 19:27 |
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| +BartJol | oh, sorry | 19:27 |
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| dreamersgirl | sure you are | 19:28 |
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| +perlDreamer | stupid tomcat is yowling through the house again | 19:28 |
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| dreamersgirl | sorry--i kept him up late partying last night | 19:29 |
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| +BartJol | well, just try to explain to your teacher that a Dutch guy is bothering you | 19:29 |
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| +BartJol | parties are good | 19:29 |
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| dreamersgirl | it wasn't a fun party | 19:29 |
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| +perlDreamer | It was a paper-writing party | 19:29 |
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| dreamersgirl | well, maybe for the cat. not for me. | 19:29 |
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| +BartJol | it is dinner tim now | 19:30 |
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| +BartJol | I should get some grub\ | 19:30 |
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| dreamersgirl | And I should go to class. | 19:30 |
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| +BartJol | ok, later | 19:31 |
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| dreamersgirl | Enjoy your grub! | 19:31 |
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| +BartJol | thanks | 19:31 |
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| dreamersgirl | theophylline | 20:14 |
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| +perlDreamer | gesundheit | 20:14 |
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| dreamersgirl | oops, sorry. wrong window! | 20:14 |
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| dreamersgirl | Danke | 20:14 |
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| * perlDreamer is starting to want $session->url->yui to save some typing | 20:49 |
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| @preaction | i'm about to setup an ldap/ldaps server on smoke, is there any other service that the smoke tests need? | 21:02 |
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| +perlDreamer | there are no LDAP tests yet | 21:06 |
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| @preaction | yeah, and we regressed. hence i'm making an ldap server on smoke to make ldap tests | 21:12 |
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| +perlDreamer | we regressed? What happened? | 21:17 |
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| +perlDreamer | also, there's a way to build a fake LDAP server for testing | 21:17 |
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| +perlDreamer | It's on CPAN | 21:17 |
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| @preaction | eh, this is easier and fewer deps | 21:19 |
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| +perlDreamer | is smoke working again? | 21:19 |
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| @preaction | it should be | 21:19 |
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| @preaction | i think just my RSS hack isn't working right | 21:20 |
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| +perlDreamer | preaction: all recent links on smoke.plainblack.com point to non-existant pages | 22:27 |
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| +perlDreamer | or is that the RSS hack you were talking about? | 22:27 |
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| @preaction | no.. damnit | 22:28 |
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| elnino | any one have bugzilla, cvs and webgui on the same machine? | 22:37 |
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| @preaction | that doesn't sound like any fun at all | 22:37 |
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| elnino | no? I really want to use wre, but am tempted to opt out on it this time around. =( Don't want to mess a around to much. | 22:39 |
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| @preaction | i was more thinking the bugzilla and cvs support | 22:39 |
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| @preaction | is there a reason it's cvs and not svn or something more modern? | 22:39 |
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| elnino | oh, it may be svn.. hold on. I get them messed up. | 22:40 |
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| @preaction | bugzilla has a modperl mode, iirc, so you can just make a bugzilla.modperl file in the WRE | 22:40 |
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| elnino | yes. svn | 22:40 |
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| @preaction | okay, then we have both svn and webgui running on plainblack.com | 22:40 |
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| @preaction | svn is running its own httpd on a different port, and modproxy is handling the reverse proxy | 22:41 |
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| elnino | I see I have some more investigation to do... | 22:46 |
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| @preaction | it's mostly apache configuration acrobatics | 22:49 |
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| @Haarg | our svn doesn't use a reverse proxy, it runs on a different IP | 22:55 |
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| elnino | bugzilla shouldn't have a problem using webgui's perl, right? just as long as it's in the path? | 22:55 |
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| elnino | and the additional mod's it needs are installed. | 22:56 |
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| @Haarg | it should work fine with webgui's perl | 22:56 |
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| elnino | so... svn gets it's own port and it's own apache/svnserve (I dont' know what is used yet), and bugzilla uses webgui's mysql and perl instanace. | 22:57 |
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| elnino | right? | 22:58 |
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| elnino | svn has it's own propritory db so nothing to do there. | 22:58 |
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| @Haarg | you could do it in a number of ways, but you could run svn in either the modperl or modproxy servers | 22:58 |
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| +perlDreamer | what does this mean: http://gist.github.com/230286 | 23:23 |
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| +perlDreamer | my i18n'ed modified template attachments JS wasn't working in IE7, so I ran it through jslint | 23:23 |
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| +perlDreamer | and it spewed back that message | 23:24 |
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| @Haarg | i'm not sure about the wrapped in an if thing | 23:24 |
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| @Haarg | but if you do a for loop like that on objects it sometimes gives you extra items that you wouldn't expect, such as methods | 23:24 |
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| +perlDreamer | ah, yes. | 23:25 |
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| +perlDreamer | I remember that from Javascript, the Good Parts | 23:25 |
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| +perlDreamer | it's a very small, slim book | 23:25 |
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| CIA-53 | webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.7 * rff0cfa0 / (4 files in 4 dirs): | 23:28 |
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| CIA-53 | webgui: i18n the template attachments, fixes bug #11186 | 23:28 |
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| CIA-53 | webgui: Also, rework some of the JS code according to jslint. - http://bit.ly/1i56JG | 23:28 |
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| +perlDreamer | OSCON is coming back to Portland | 23:39 |
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| +perlDreamer | pack your bags! | 23:39 |
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| @preaction | ooh when? | 23:51 |
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| +perlDreamer | July 19-23 | 23:52 |
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| +perlDreamer | I can probably offer a place to crash | 23:52 |
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| +perlDreamer | but it's a long haul in to the Convention Center | 23:52 |
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| +perlDreamer | about 53 minutes by lightrail | 23:52 |
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| dreamersgirl | not that you've timed it or anything... | 23:57 |
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| --- Day changed Tue Nov 10 2009 |
| +perlDreamer | oh no | 00:02 |
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| +perlDreamer | speaking of timing, I have to go get some kids from the store | 00:02 |
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| +perlDreamer | I like to get there early, so they're fresh | 00:02 |
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| +perlDreamer | be back in 34 minutes | 00:02 |
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| +perlDreamer | with a standard variance of 2.3 minutes | 00:03 |
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| dreamersgirl | i'll be off by then | 00:06 |
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| dreamersgirl | later! | 00:06 |
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| @preaction | where should i put the info for connecting / using smoke's ldap server? | 00:26 |
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| @preaction | we're supposed to use Scope::Guard for cleanup in tests now, right? | 00:44 |
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| @preaction | like if i need to delete an ldap link? | 00:44 |
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| @Haarg | that's probably the best way, yes | 00:45 |
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| @preaction | easiest way to prove we have a shitty API: Write a test for it... | 00:59 |
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| +perlDreamer | preaction, I added a cleanup mode for DatabaseLink's yesterday. | 01:06 |
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| +perlDreamer | LDAPLinks should work the same way | 01:06 |
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| +perlDreamer | with a test to prevent the deletion of the default one | 01:06 |
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| +perlDreamer | ++trex | 01:30 |
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| @preaction | indeed | 01:31 |
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| +perlDreamer | can you grab that as part of your testing work? | 01:34 |
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| +perlDreamer | also, here's irony. I'm installing IE8 to try and debug some javascript | 01:34 |
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| vayde | wow, that's like sacrificing a goat for animal rights | 01:39 |
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| vayde | you know about firebug dontcha pd? | 01:40 |
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| +perlDreamer | I do, but of course, the JS works in FF | 01:42 |
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| +perlDreamer | and it's not throwing any errors in IE | 01:42 |
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| +perlDreamer | it's just not working | 01:42 |
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| vayde | yeah, catch 22 there. no good debug tools in IE | 01:43 |
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| @preaction | actually IE 8 has a pretty nice debugger | 01:46 |
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| vayde | yeah? | 01:46 |
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| vayde | that's nice to hear | 01:46 |
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| vayde | how you been preaction? | 01:46 |
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| @preaction | same old, working on making webgui better | 01:53 |
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| @preaction | trying to stem the tide of shoddy fixes and regressions with my temporary minion, Colin | 01:53 |
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| @preaction | yourself? | 01:53 |
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| +perlDreamer | that's short term, not temporary | 01:56 |
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| vayde | oh, resident barbarian horde in corporate america | 01:56 |
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| vayde | I loot, pillage and burn with appalling regularity | 01:56 |
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| @preaction | what does one even call a minion without a super villian? | 01:57 |
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| @preaction | i mean, antagonist | 01:57 |
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| vayde | lonely? | 01:58 |
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| +perlDreamer | we have a villian | 01:58 |
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| +perlDreamer | but we do not often speak his name | 01:58 |
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| +perlDreamer | He is the Regressor | 01:58 |
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| +perlDreamer | evil perpretator of multiple mistakes | 01:59 |
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| vayde | heh. yeah, I can imagine that gets to be more and more of a threat every day | 01:59 |
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| +perlDreamer | speaking of which, preaction, any clue as to why the DataTable doesn't output the DataTable inside a row and table cell? | 02:00 |
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| +perlDreamer | is that on purpose for some reason? | 02:00 |
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| @preaction | huh? | 02:00 |
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| @preaction | you mean a nested table? | 02:01 |
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| +perlDreamer | it's making <table><table id="DataTable_container> rows and columns </table></table> | 02:01 |
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| @preaction | that's... weird | 02:01 |
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| +perlDreamer | ya | 02:01 |
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| +perlDreamer | I'm looking for anything that will help with this DataTable bug that JT found | 02:02 |
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| +perlDreamer | it's not throwing any errors or warnings | 02:02 |
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| +perlDreamer | for the data table, it just draws an empty header cell | 02:02 |
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| +perlDreamer | with no label | 02:02 |
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| +perlDreamer | and no content or anything underneath it | 02:03 |
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| +perlDreamer | also, no buttons for help, add or delete | 02:03 |
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| +perlDreamer | very strange | 02:03 |
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| @preaction | is there a stable release tomorrow? | 02:04 |
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| +perlDreamer | preaction, I've made so many releases in last 10 days I don't remember who is supposed to be next | 02:07 |
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| +perlDreamer | I'll check | 02:07 |
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| +perlDreamer | yeah, it's stable tomorrow | 02:08 |
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| +perlDreamer | unless I've catatrosphically mucked something else up and have to do more off-time releases | 02:08 |
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| CIA-53 | webgui: Doug Bell webgui-7.7 * r88a4327 / (lib/WebGUI/Auth/LDAP.pm t/Auth/LDAP.t): fixed #11218: LDAPS does not create users automatically - http://bit.ly/tbUj9 | 02:10 |
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| CIA-53 | webgui: Doug Bell webgui-7.7 * r26a212f / docs/changelog/7.x.x.txt : add changelog - http://bit.ly/3xwdsi | 02:10 |
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| CIA-53 | webgui: Doug Bell master * rd5c2275 / docs/upgrades/upgrade_7.8.4-7.8.5.pl : make the upgrade shut up - http://bit.ly/3gkSyL | 02:10 |
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| CIA-53 | webgui: Doug Bell master * rec30672 / (3 files in 3 dirs): fixed #11218: LDAPS does not create users automatically - http://bit.ly/tdIhi | 02:10 |
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| CIA-53 | wrebuild: Colin Kuskie master * r9e0f791 / wre/docs/install.txt : Add a note about SELinux, and how it won't work with the WRE. Fixes bug #10703 - http://bit.ly/17JSeQ | 02:11 |
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| CIA-53 | wrebuild: Colin Kuskie master * r3f0fc60 / (7 files in 4 dirs): Merge branch 'master' of git@github.com:plainblack/wrebuild - http://bit.ly/42EYlI | 02:11 |
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| +perlDreamer | SynQ: I made a documentation change to the WRE, install.txt. | 02:11 |
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| +perlDreamer | son of a gun | 02:21 |
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| +perlDreamer | that did it! | 02:21 |
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| +perlDreamer | but I may have found a codeEditor bug, too | 02:21 |
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| +perlDreamer | code-editor.js, line 289 (this._getSelection is null) | 02:22 |
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| @preaction | yeah, that's been a consistent problem | 02:29 |
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| +perlDreamer | should we do an existance check on that key before calling methods through it? | 02:34 |
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| +perlDreamer | oh, adding the TR and TD tags to the table fixed the DataTable in IE8 | 02:35 |
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| +perlDreamer | now checking IE7 | 02:35 |
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| +perlDreamer | and then I'm going to check Susan's default time zone bug | 02:35 |
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| +perlDreamer | and then I'm going to fix dinner | 02:35 |
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| +perlDreamer | which does not involve bugs | 02:38 |
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| CIA-53 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r9d14e8b / (3 files in 3 dirs): | 02:50 |
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| CIA-53 | webgui: Fix rendering of initial DataTable in IE7, IE8. Fixes bug #11205. | 02:50 |
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| CIA-53 | webgui: Added TR, TD tags to table containing the DataTable. Also, | 02:50 |
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| CIA-53 | webgui: ran dataTable.js through jslint and fixed many issues. - http://bit.ly/284pru | 02:50 |
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| CIA-53 | webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.7 * rab6811e / (3 files in 3 dirs): | 02:50 |
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| CIA-53 | webgui: Fix rendering of initial DataTable in IE7, IE8. Fixes bug #11205. | 02:50 |
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| CIA-53 | webgui: Added TR, TD tags to table containing the DataTable. Also, | 02:50 |
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| CIA-53 | webgui: ran dataTable.js through jslint and fixed many issues. - http://bit.ly/1V7FVU | 02:50 |
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| +perlDreamer | preaction, $session->setting will automatically restore itself at the end of the test | 02:51 |
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| +perlDreamer | no need to clean it up | 02:51 |
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| @preaction | i'm not cleaning it up, i'm making sure it doesn't interfere with the next test | 02:56 |
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| @preaction | (and that final test, the next test is unwritten) | 02:56 |
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| +perlDreamer | I see | 03:04 |
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| SquOnk | Hello everyone | 15:25 |
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| ryuu_ro | hi guys | 15:26 |
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| ryuu_ro | anybody an idea why in the extras yui dir the beta version of element is included? | 15:26 |
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| ryuu_ro | in 7.7.25 that is | 15:27 |
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| ryuu_ro | and 7.7.21 also has the beta included | 15:28 |
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| ryuu_ro | as far as i remember this used to be a stable version | 15:28 |
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| +bartjol | ah, memory, the illusionist of the mind | 15:41 |
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| ryuu_ro | ok Bart, time to answer my question | 15:42 |
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| +bartjol | you should go now | 15:42 |
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| ryuu_ro | thanks | 15:42 |
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| ryuu_ro | :) | 15:42 |
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| +bartjol | but, sorry, I don't | 15:42 |
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| +bartjol | know | 15:42 |
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| ryuu_ro | dev list it is | 15:43 |
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| +bartjol | isn't there anything in the changelog? | 15:43 |
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| SquOnk | Any news on the SynContent encoding bug? | 15:43 |
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| +bartjol | not afaik | 15:43 |
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| ryuu_ro | well the encoding is not working for me | 15:44 |
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| ryuu_ro | yet | 15:44 |
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| SquOnk | Meh | 15:45 |
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| +perlDreamer | bartjol, I only have a little time before I need to take kids to school | 17:44 |
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| +perlDreamer | Next RFE day is next monday | 17:44 |
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| +bartjol | yes | 17:44 |
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| +perlDreamer | let's work on some of the international RFEs together | 17:44 |
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| +perlDreamer | you game? | 17:44 |
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| +bartjol | ooh, well, I suppose | 17:45 |
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| +perlDreamer | I'm thinking about the choice of language one | 17:45 |
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| +perlDreamer | and also Martien's one for copying language into the core | 17:45 |
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| +bartjol | so the base site language? | 17:45 |
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| +perlDreamer | yes | 17:45 |
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| +bartjol | yes there is some overlap in those | 17:45 |
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| +bartjol | I believe | 17:45 |
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| +perlDreamer | I'm not so sure | 17:45 |
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| +perlDreamer | in any case, we should be able to bust them out quickly | 17:46 |
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| +perlDreamer | also, how 'bout them tests? | 17:46 |
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| +perlDreamer | gotta scoot | 17:46 |
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| +bartjol | haven been able to look at that | 17:46 |
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| +bartjol | gotta reserve some time for it this week | 17:47 |
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| daviddelikat3 | I **** browser compatibility | 17:54 |
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| +bartjol | I like compatibility, but dtest incompatability :P | 17:55 |
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| daviddelikat3 | hey perlDreamer I figured out how I should have retrieved my files last saturday | 17:55 |
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| daviddelikat3 | browser compatibility is like military inteligence | 17:55 |
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| daviddelikat3 | it looks like it but it isnt | 17:55 |
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| daviddelikat3 | that is compatible | 17:56 |
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| +bartjol | :) | 17:59 |
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| +perlDreamer | what's the magic invocation, daviddelikat3? | 18:00 |
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| daviddelikat3 | well I was trying to checkout the old versions of the files | 18:00 |
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| daviddelikat3 | but what I didn't do was make a branch first | 18:00 |
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| daviddelikat3 | you can't checkout out of a commit | 18:00 |
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| daviddelikat3 | but you can make a branch at any commit point | 18:00 |
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| daviddelikat3 | and checkout of the brance | 18:01 |
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| daviddelikat3 | branch | 18:01 |
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| daviddelikat3 | its actually very cool | 18:01 |
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| +perlDreamer | nice | 18:01 |
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| daviddelikat3 | and would have got me back on track very quickly | 18:01 |
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| daviddelikat3 | but I didn't really understand branches | 18:01 |
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| daviddelikat3 | now I do | 18:01 |
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| daviddelikat3 | now I'll be using them much more | 18:02 |
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| +perlDreamer | branches are cool | 18:02 |
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| daviddelikat3 | I hope can delete branches... | 18:02 |
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| daviddelikat3 | otherwise our tree is going to be pretty crowded | 18:03 |
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| +perlDreamer | git branch -d | 18:03 |
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| +perlDreamer | git branch -D | 18:03 |
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| +perlDreamer | either way | 18:03 |
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| daviddelikat3 | yeah | 18:03 |
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| daviddelikat3 | I've been mostly reading about creating them using checkout | 18:03 |
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| daviddelikat3 | I'll have to look at branch next | 18:03 |
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| daviddelikat3 | but first I have to check o |
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