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| elnino | I have two sites on a single installation of webgui. Any idea why captcha would appear in one and not the other? I thought maybe it was my site design, but "verify your humanity" isn't seen in the underlying html... | 04:03 |
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| elnino | oh. the versions are stuck.. | 04:05 |
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| elnino | hmm. well, that's not true really. THose are from 9/22 | 04:11 |
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| elnino | I made the changes today and those version tags went thru correctly as far as I can tell. | 04:11 |
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| elnino | It's funny. I don't see the captcha, but when I submit the form, it says that it was entered incorrectly. even though there is no html code for the captcha field on the page. | 04:24 |
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| elnino | I even tried makeing a package of the form that has the captcha and tried importing it into my other site, and it wouldn't import. This site must be hosted. but I'm not getting any error messages. Im watching webgui.log with tail -f | 04:55 |
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| elnino | s/hosted/hosed | 05:03 |
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| elnino | hi I have two sites ona single installation of webgui. Site A has captcha, site B doesn't not. But Site B has it configured. I thought maybe there was a flaw in the deisgn, but there is nothing in the html showing that it's there. | 05:37 |
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| elnino | when I submit the form, it complains that I didn't enter the right word for captcha. | 05:38 |
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| elnino | I even tried making a package from site A and importing it to site b, and I couldn't even import the package.. and there were no errors in webgui.log . | 05:38 |
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| elnino | Help? Any ideas what to look at? | 05:38 |
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| elnino | I have 7.5.24 | 05:39 |
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| elnino | both sites areon the same ip address. does that have anything to do with it? | 05:40 |
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| elnino | I see that captcha uses scratch variables. | 05:41 |
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| @Haarg | captcha on what? | 05:41 |
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| elnino | a data form asset | 05:41 |
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| elnino | I'm even makeing sure that i'm a visitor. Cause I know it doesn't display if I'm a registered user. | 05:44 |
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| elnino | I'm sure it's somethign dumb, but it's got me stumped. | 05:44 |
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| elnino | btw, what is the default time that queued emails are sent? | 05:51 |
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| elnino | never mind, found it in scheduler. | 05:51 |
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| @Haarg | have you checked the template? | 05:54 |
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| @Haarg | the captcha is a separate template variable | 05:54 |
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| elnino | well. both are using the smae template by name, but I didn't look at the actuall code. Good idea. Letme look. | 05:55 |
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| elnino | you got it! Thanks! I'll have to remember that! | 05:59 |
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| elnino | Thanks Haarg - I'm now going to sleep well. | 06:01 |
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| CIA-6 | WebGUI: translation * r8232 /translations/German/German/Asset_SQLReport.pm: Update from translation server | 03:16 |
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| knowmad | Is anyone tuned in today? | 22:16 |
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| knowmad | That's pretty much what i figured for a Sunday... | 22:17 |
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| @Haarg | i'm around for a little | 22:36 |
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| knowmad | hey haarg, you still around? | 22:52 |
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| elnino | hey! recently discovered the style wizard thingy... Is there a way to setup some different layouts for the wizard? - didi I miss that chapter in th edeveloper's book? | 07:50 |
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| elnino | The other question I have is, can I setup multiple roots, each being a different subdomain? - is that a redirect in the modproxy? | 07:55 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | Anyone else notice that the RFE 'submitted by' sort doesn't really work? | 17:25 |
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| BartJo1 | perlmonkey2: seems you're right | 17:27 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | probably sorting on id or something. | 17:28 |
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| BartJo1 | prolly | 17:33 |
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| SDuensin | Greetings. | 17:34 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | If you remove an activity from a site config file, that activity will no longer be ran when the workflow is, right? And when the site is upgraded, that activity won't be magically readded? | 17:58 |
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| BartJo1 | no, I think not | 17:58 |
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| BartJo1 | the new config isn't copied over the old one | 17:59 |
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| BartJo1 | but if it's called you will get errors in your llog I think | 17:59 |
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| BartJo1 | if it's included in the hourly | 18:00 |
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| BartJo1 | or something like that | 18:00 |
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| BartJo1 | can't you remove it from the workflow? | 18:00 |
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| BartJo1 | then, you don't have to disable it | 18:01 |
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| BartJo1 | sounds like a kill -9 where a kill works too | 18:01 |
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| @rizen | perlmonkey2: the listing in the config is only for the workflow activities available to be added to workflows | 18:54 |
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| @rizen | removing it from the config will NOT stop it from being run | 18:54 |
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| @rizen | you actually have to remove it from any workflows it's part of to do that | 18:54 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | rizen: okay, that makes a lot more sense. | 18:56 |
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| +perlDreamer | wow | 18:57 |
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| +perlDreamer | knowmad has a good headshot | 18:57 |
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| CIA-6 | WebGUI: frank * r8234 /experimental/HelpDesk/lib/WebGUI/Asset/ (Ticket.pm Wobject/HelpDesk.pm): HelpDesk assets and Tickets can now be properly purged from WebGUI | 18:59 |
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| @rizen | perlDreamer: i know you asked for 1000 pictures. here's a start: http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=66383&id=565308834&ref=share | 19:39 |
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| @rizen | somebody else's pics | 19:39 |
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| @rizen | i'll post mine this week sometime | 19:39 |
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| SDuensin | Hey rizen | 19:39 |
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| @rizen | hey sd | 19:40 |
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| SDuensin | WebGUI needs to do SMTP/IMAP. I hate setting up mail servers. | 19:41 |
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| @rizen | you mean it needs to be an SMTP server? | 19:41 |
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| @rizen | rather than use an SMTP server? | 19:42 |
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| SDuensin | I mean it needs to be everything I need in one nice box. | 19:42 |
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| SDuensin | Yep. Part of my "Project Lazy". | 19:42 |
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| SDuensin | Seriously. At this point, I think it'd be easier to write my own mail server than learn to configure one. :-) | 19:42 |
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| @rizen | no it wouldn't SD | 19:43 |
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| @rizen | i guarantee you tha | 19:43 |
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| @rizen | that | 19:44 |
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| @rizen | if you don't want to configure one, you should just host with PB | 19:44 |
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| SDuensin | Says you. Written one before. Wasn't that hard. | 19:44 |
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| @rizen | we provide all that for you | 19:44 |
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| SDuensin | PB won't do all the psycho stuff I want to do. | 19:44 |
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| @rizen | writing one that handles everything that it needs to handle, isn't easy | 19:44 |
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| SDuensin | Ah, but see, that's the catch! It only needs to handle what *I* want. :-) | 19:44 |
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| @rizen | sure just doing straight routing isn't that hard, but there are about 1000 RFC's you need to implement to be a real SMTP server | 19:44 |
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| SDuensin | Yea, yea, yea. Take all the fun out of it. | 19:47 |
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| +perlDreamer | rizen, that page requires a facebook login | 19:49 |
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| @rizen | i viewed it without logging in | 19:49 |
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| @rizen | try clicking this link first: http://www.facebook.com/p.php?i=565308834&k=X41T356XV36M5D1GRKZTRU | 19:50 |
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| @rizen | maybe that gives you a session or something | 19:50 |
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| +perlDreamer | yeah, that's better. | 19:51 |
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| +perlDreamer | What's the small fuzzy that Gilligan has? | 19:51 |
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| @rizen | it's my rat | 19:52 |
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| @rizen | a fake rat | 19:52 |
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| @rizen | but it's part of the halloween decor at casa smith | 19:52 |
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| +perlDreamer | nice costume, dude | 19:53 |
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| +perlDreamer | $dayJob is exacting revenge for all that idle time | 19:53 |
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| +perlDreamer | I haven't had time to do any wG work for weeks | 19:54 |
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| @rizen | that sucks PD | 20:10 |
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| @rizen | SDuensin: your RFE is unjustified and without merit | 20:11 |
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| @rizen | and your mommy dresses you funny | 20:11 |
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| SDuensin | It's justified and you dress yourself funny. | 20:12 |
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| SDuensin | I didn't see a "Request for fixing annoying things" so I filed an RFE. | 20:12 |
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| @rizen | It's only annoying because you are trying to deprive advertisers of their cash | 20:13 |
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| @rizen | and if you are | 20:13 |
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| @rizen | then you shouldn't use the WebGUI advertising feature either. =) | 20:13 |
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| SDuensin | I'm the advertiser. Maybe I'm trying to prevent invalid impressions? Hmmmm? :-P | 20:14 |
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| @rizen | If you're an advertiser why are you using an ad blocker? | 20:14 |
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| @rizen | do you live in bizarro world? | 20:14 |
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| SDuensin | What do you think? :-D | 20:15 |
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| @rizen | I'm going to reject your RFE based upon this conversation. | 20:15 |
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| SDuensin | hehehe | 20:15 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | What about a rss asset that had plugins for all appropriate assets to grab rss entries from. This asset would contain feeds and feeds would be groups of asset URLS from which to get the RSS data form. You would get the rss feed by going to the rssAsset&feed=TheCoolFeed | 22:12 |
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| apeiron | perlmonkey2, So it'd basically be a planet implementation for one site? | 22:13 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | apeiron: yes. This way, no matter how many feeds or assets you are grabbing from, you only have one asset instance added. | 22:14 |
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| apeiron | perlmonkey2, Sounds interesting. Now the important question: why? | 22:15 |
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| @rizen | why ask why, drink bud dry | 22:15 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | apeiron: an easy way to do rss feeds | 22:16 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | most of the rss logic can be stored in a single asset, so no duplication of the rss generation or feed auth. | 22:16 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | else each asset would have to know rss. | 22:17 |
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| @preaction | why not an Aspect? | 22:17 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | let me read up on Aspects :D | 22:17 |
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| topsub | i am in WebGUI 7.4.8 and how can i send an message to anotehr user? when i go to inbox i don't have the option to send an inbox message. | 22:34 |
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| Bernd_ | Are Aspects in WebGUI related to the Aspect module on CPAN? | 22:40 |
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| Bernd_ | Or is there another good starting point? | 22:44 |
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| Bernd_ | I mean, for reading. | 22:44 |
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| @preaction | Class::C3 and WebGUI::AssetAspect | 22:46 |
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| Bernd_ | Thanks! | 22:47 |
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| @preaction | the WebGUI::AssetAspect::Installable is a simple one, if you want an example | 22:48 |
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| Bernd_ | I am going to have a look at it! | 22:49 |
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| @rizen | Don't listen to preaction, WebGUI::AssetAspect::Comments is the only aspect worth looking at | 23:53 |
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| @rizen | preaction, we're going to have to have an Aspect-off | 23:53 |
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| @preaction | Comments is bigger, more awesome, and more complex, and so harder to see what's happening | 23:59 |
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| @preaction | on the other hand, Comments has an implementing class (Wiki) | 23:59 |
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| @preaction | hm... | 23:59 |
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| @rizen | Actually, I was thinking more of a contest to see who can build the cooler aspect | 00:02 |
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| @rizen | though, i've already come up with about 100 features to add to the comment aspect | 00:03 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | preaction: can you explain the AssetAspect::Comments::get comments call? $self->next::method('comments') Is the next::method sending the call back to the object using the aspect? | 00:08 |
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| @preaction | perlmonkey2, check the Class::C3 docs for what next::method does | 00:09 |
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| slickware | hey, Jamie, you still in here? | 00:11 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | preaction: so next would send the call to the next inherited class, Asset. But Asset doesn't have a 'comments' method. | 00:14 |
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| @preaction | perlmonkey2, it detects that and doesn't cause an error | 00:15 |
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| @preaction | at least, i hope | 00:15 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | reading Class::C3 I think it might | 00:15 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | If next::method cannot find a next method to re-dispatch the call to, it will throw an exception. | 00:15 |
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| @preaction | dunno, JT wrote that aspect | 00:16 |
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| @rizen | perlmonkey2: can you point me to the line number or method name that you're talking about? | 00:17 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | preaction: yeah, I'm not getting something because that method is called with that param. | 00:17 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | rizen: sub get in AssetApect::Comments | 00:17 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | line 217 | 00:17 |
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| @rizen | yeah, it's not calling a method called "comments" | 00:18 |
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| @rizen | it's passing the string "comments" to get() | 00:18 |
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| @rizen | in SUPER:: | 00:18 |
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| @rizen | it's the same as saying | 00:18 |
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| @rizen | $self->SUPER::get('comments') | 00:18 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | so $self->next::method passes the params to the super of whatever method it is in? | 00:18 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | that is craaaazy | 00:18 |
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| @rizen | next::method is very similar to SUPER except that instead of calling vertically | 00:19 |
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| @rizen | it calls horizontally and then vertically | 00:19 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | hmm, now the example code in perldoc makes sense | 00:19 |
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| @rizen | aspects (in WebGUI) are multiple-inheritance | 00:20 |
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| @rizen | and therefore can be a bit confusing | 00:20 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | yeah, I think I understand enough to really screw something up now :D | 00:20 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | rizen: but I'm still not entirely sure rss feeds should be aspects tacked onto existing classes. Single class with plugins to existing assets, or change existing assets to use an aspect? | 00:22 |
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| @rizen | once we get a nice stable of asset aspects built, we should be able to throw together absolutely amazing assets in very little time...just because of the power aspects give us | 00:22 |
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| @preaction | the RSS Aspect is already planned | 00:22 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | rizen: heh, that has been the promise of OOP since its inception. I'm still waiting for it. | 00:23 |
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| @rizen | perlmonkey2: did you read my dev mailing list post about the death of the collaboration system? | 00:23 |
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| @rizen | webgui asset aspects will bring it about | 00:24 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | yes | 00:24 |
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| +perlDreamer | Death to the CS! | 00:24 |
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| @rizen | let's say we wanted to keep the collaboration system, but we just wanted to "aspectize" it | 00:24 |
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| @rizen | WebGUI::Asset::Post would be entirely replaced by the Comments aspect | 00:25 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | I can see them doing that. And it does seem much sexier to instead of having big heavy Blog asset, having a small light Blog asset that aspects almost all of its functionality. | 00:25 |
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| @rizen | The comments aspect would just be added to Thread | 00:25 |
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| @rizen | CS would get the RSS aspect | 00:25 |
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| @rizen | both CS and Thread would get the Subscribable aspect | 00:25 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | oh man, when you talk like that I get all excited. | 00:25 |
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| @rizen | thusly replacing about 400 lines of code in each | 00:25 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | seems like the most important part (of many important parts) is all assets start behaving much more alike. | 00:26 |
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| @rizen | CS and Thread would both get ReplyViaEmail aspect, allowing emails to come in and post to them | 00:26 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | similiar functionality will *feel* the same, because it is the sam.e | 00:26 |
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| @rizen | that's a big part of it | 00:27 |
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| @rizen | the thing is that whole objects often aren't as reusable as their parts | 00:27 |
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| @rizen | and that's where aspects come into play | 00:27 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | wow....yeah, I can see how cool this is going to be. | 00:28 |
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| @rizen | it's going to take some time, but once we have the stable of aspects...webgui assets can and will become a lot more uniform, tested and therefore stable, and easier to build | 00:29 |
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| @rizen | we owe most of this to preaction, who lit a fire under my ass to finally start pushing aspects (cuz he's been pushing the concept for about a year now) | 00:30 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | should make it easier to move more logic to the client side. Adding ajax hooks will be a lot simpler. | 00:31 |
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| @rizen | will it? | 00:31 |
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| @rizen | i don' t know about that | 00:31 |
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| @rizen | certainly some reusable ajax hooks | 00:31 |
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| @rizen | but in general, i think most ajax stuff will be just as it is now | 00:31 |
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| @rizen | WebGUI::Crud is in the same vein though | 00:33 |
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| @rizen | it's not an aspect | 00:33 |
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| @rizen | but it makes it much easier to build collateral for assets | 00:33 |
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| @rizen | and because all collateral will be from a standard base (WebGUI::Crud), all collateral will be more uniform, tested and therefore stable | 00:34 |
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| @rizen | i've already built 6 objects on WebGUI::Crud, and it has saved me hours of time because i fix a problem in one place and it fixes it in all 6 objects | 00:34 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | nice | 00:34 |
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| @rizen | not to mention the test suite keeps me informed of how the changes I make to crud impact things | 00:35 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | wow crud has really changed since I last looked at it. It is huge | 00:36 |
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| @rizen | has it? | 00:36 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | yes, it was just a few methods last I looked at it. Now its 942 lines of code with some very interesting helpers | 00:37 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | updateTable? Come on, that is just slick. | 00:38 |
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| @rizen | the only thing i don't like about the WebGUI::Crud implementation so far is the join clause in the getAll methods | 00:39 |
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| @rizen | i think i'm going to remove that | 00:39 |
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| @rizen | updateTable wasn't there when you last looked at it? man i thought that was there in the very first implementation | 00:39 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | maybe I missed it. | 00:40 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | don't know how as it is kind of the heart of the thing | 00:41 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | rizen: you dont' like the joins? Why not? | 00:45 |
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| @rizen | i don't like that you can throw raw SQL into the joins | 00:46 |
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| @rizen | it allows for sloppiness | 00:46 |
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| @rizen | mainly in field quoting | 00:46 |
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| @rizen | i like joinUsing | 00:46 |
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| @rizen | just not join | 00:46 |
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| @rizen | i have a similar problem with the where clause | 00:47 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | hmm, change the syntax of join then? | 00:47 |
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| @rizen | i really like where "fieldname = ?", $value | 00:47 |
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| @rizen | like i have it now | 00:47 |
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| @rizen | but i wish i had a way to auto-quote the field name | 00:47 |
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| @rizen | i don't mind having raw SQL in a class like this | 00:48 |
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| @rizen | i just want to be able to make it as automatic and as safe as possible | 00:48 |
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| +perlDreamer | $session->db->quoteIdentifier | 00:48 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | I keep running in circles in my head trying to think how abstract that and DBIx::Class et al is what comes to mind. | 00:49 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | which is way too slow | 00:49 |
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| @rizen | perlDreamer i know about that and use it | 00:49 |
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| @rizen | but you can't do | 00:49 |
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| @rizen | quoteIdenetifier("fieldname = ?" | 00:50 |
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| +perlDreamer | s/(\S+)(\s*=)/$db->quoteIdentifier($1).$2/eg; | 00:50 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | hahha | 00:50 |
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| @rizen | nope | 00:50 |
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| @rizen | because they can do | 00:50 |
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| @preaction | fieldname= | 00:50 |
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| +perlDreamer | I _did_ say \s* in there | 00:51 |
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| @rizen | fieldname >= this or fieldname < that or fieldname in ('this', 'foo', 'bar') | 00:51 |
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| +perlDreamer | the '> | 00:51 |
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| +perlDreamer | character won't match | 00:51 |
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| @preaction | (\S+)\b(\s*(?:=|>|<|...)) | 00:51 |
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| @preaction | i hate it | 00:52 |
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| @preaction | SQL::Abstract! | 00:52 |
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| +perlDreamer | preaction, \b is the boundary between \S and \s | 00:52 |
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| @preaction | ah | 00:52 |
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| @preaction | don't need that then | 00:52 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | perlDreamer: so why won't what you have work for sanitizing? | 00:53 |
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| @preaction | or Parse::BooleanQuery maybe? | 00:53 |
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| +perlDreamer | preaction, a more general purpose solution will always be better than my regexp-of-the-day | 00:53 |
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| @rizen | folks you can stop, the answer IS NOT parsing | 00:54 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | well, there are only so many possible cases. a short parse tree could be created. | 00:54 |
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| @rizen | we either leave it raw SQL or we make a usable interface to pass in a usable datastructure | 00:54 |
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| @rizen | my goal IS NOT to rebuild DBIx::Class | 00:54 |
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| @rizen | RoseDB | 00:54 |
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| @rizen | or any of the other bs that's out there on CPAN that's both hard to use and slow | 00:55 |
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| @rizen | for now we'll leave it as is, and if we figure out a better way to do it, we'll deprecate the current mechanism and remove it in WebGUI 8 | 00:56 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | the join syntax can be narrowed down to a single case | 00:56 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | just allow left joins | 00:57 |
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| @rizen | are you saying just allow left joins with single equality? | 00:57 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | hmm, but there are a ton of conditionals | 00:57 |
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| @rizen | cuz i already only allow left joins | 00:57 |
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| @rizen | it's the equality issue that is a problem | 00:58 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | yeah, just realized that | 00:58 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | and there are quite a few possible conditionals. | 00:58 |
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| @rizen | i could very easily say tablename, fieldInTable, fieldInCrud | 00:58 |
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| @rizen | and we have a nice usable datastructure | 00:58 |
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| @rizen | that would build | 00:58 |
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| @rizen | left join tablename on tablename.fieldIntable = crudtable.fieldInCrud | 00:59 |
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| @rizen | i'm just not sure if that's good enough for our uses | 00:59 |
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| @rizen | preaction; for the record, these are the same issues i have with the joinClass and other related options in getLineage | 01:04 |
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| @rizen | there's a lot of sanity problems | 01:04 |
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| @rizen | quoting, table prefixing, etc | 01:04 |
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| @rizen | and in getLineage it's even worse because you also have to account for versioning | 01:04 |
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| lelelele | is it difficult to use this CMS if I don't know Perl? I know only PHP. | 02:14 |
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| SDuensin | Not at all. | 02:16 |
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| +perlDreamer | To _use_ WebGUI, you don't really have to know perl at all | 02:19 |
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| +perlDreamer | Just the language for the templates | 02:19 |
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| +perlDreamer | and macros | 02:19 |
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| SDuensin | Yep. Since the WRE hit the scene, it's become MUCH easier! | 02:20 |
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| patspam | rizen: I started using crud for something yesterday :) | 02:25 |
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| @rizen | oh yeah? and how did you find it to work? | 02:26 |
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| patspam | so far so good! | 02:26 |
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| SDuensin | Crud? Like database CRUD? | 02:26 |
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| @rizen | i've been using it for a couple weeks now on a special pb project | 02:26 |
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| @rizen | have 6 objects created so far | 02:26 |
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| * SDuensin is trying to learn Thingy. | 02:26 |
| @rizen | thingy should eventually use crud | 02:27 |
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| SDuensin | WTF is crud? | 02:27 |
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| @rizen | WebGUI::Crud | 02:27 |
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| @rizen | is a new thing in 7.6 | 02:27 |
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| patspam | cool. the only thing I've noticed so far that felt like it was missing was the ability to flag fields as required in definition() | 02:27 |
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| @rizen | that allows you to build database backed WebGUI objects | 02:27 |
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| SDuensin | Can you link and stuff like Thingy? | 02:28 |
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| @rizen | SD: it's a programmer's tool, not a UI tool | 02:28 |
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| * SDuensin is using 7.5.x, but could be convinced to go bleeding edge. :-) | 02:28 |
| SDuensin | Doh. | 02:28 |
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| +perlDreamer | SDuensin, think more of a generic object base class that handles db interactions | 02:28 |
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| * SDuensin is a programmer, but he's kinda busy and can't learn WebGUI's API just yet. | 02:28 |
| +perlDreamer | rizen, I need to borrow $600,000 US. | 02:28 |
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| @rizen | Thingy's backend should eventually use WebGUI::Crud | 02:28 |
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| SDuensin | Cool. | 02:28 |
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| SDuensin | Sounds very spiffy. | 02:28 |
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| @rizen | perlDreamer: uh.... | 02:29 |
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| @rizen | patspam: that's not a bad idea | 02:29 |
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| patspam | rizen: love how much boiler-plate code i didn't have to write. crud++ | 02:31 |
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| +perlDreamer | rizen, okay, how about just $500,000 and I'll give you free rides? | 02:32 |
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| @rizen | buying a helicopter pd? | 02:32 |
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| @rizen | or a train? | 02:32 |
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| +perlDreamer | No, a used steam engine | 02:32 |
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| +perlDreamer | :) | 02:32 |
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| SDuensin | Uh? | 02:32 |
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| @rizen | how about this, i'll lend you $6, then you just need 100,000 other people to do the same thing. =) | 02:32 |
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| +perlDreamer | hm. Just let me make a quick commit to the PayDriver code | 02:33 |
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| +perlDreamer | that should fix it | 02:33 |
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| @rizen | patspam: yeah, it's saving me an absolute ton of code too...but more importantly, as i've been building these objects it's giving me ideas for additional methods in WebGUI::Crud | 02:34 |
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| @rizen | like the $self->updateFromFormPost() method I added today | 02:34 |
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| SDuensin | Crap. I lost the Things I built. Wonder what I did? | 02:35 |
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| @rizen | SD: that big button that says "DELETE" don't hit that next time | 02:37 |
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| SDuensin | I think I somehow had a version tag with no Things in the Thingy and committed that on top the one I was working on. | 02:37 |
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| SDuensin | I think. | 02:37 |
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| SDuensin | Interesting. My missing Things are in the Default Thing dropdown in my empty Thingy. | 02:42 |
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| BartJol | so missing is actually misplaced? | 02:43 |
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| SDuensin | Seems that way. Connecting to MySQL now to poke around. | 02:43 |
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| BartJol | how does Thingy show it's empty? | 02:44 |
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| SDuensin | Well, before when I went to the page with the Thingy on it, it listed my Things. Now I just have "Add Thing". | 02:45 |
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| lelelele | how does it supports GUI? | 02:47 |
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| lelelele | I mean in website or has windows app for it? | 02:47 |
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| SDuensin | Interesting. I have two Thingy entries in the database that are the same except for the revision date. That's probably not right. | 02:48 |
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| @rizen | lelelele: it's a web app. go to http://demo.webgui.org | 02:48 |
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| @rizen | create a demo | 02:48 |
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| @rizen | then click on the getting started page | 02:48 |
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| BartJol | mmm, my server doesn't produce a page, nrestarting services | 02:48 |
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| BartJol | if it has done that, I'll try to reproduce SDuensin, I', running 7.6.1 | 02:49 |
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| SDuensin | Would a dump of my Thingy related tables help? | 02:50 |
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| BartJol | restarting takes awfully long.... | 02:50 |
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| BartJol | mmm, mysql can't connect | 02:52 |
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| BartJol | SDuensin: I don't know, it doesn't harm | 02:52 |
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| BartJol | but now I've got mu own problems | 02:53 |
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| BartJol | ... | 02:53 |
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| SDuensin | :-( | 02:54 |
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| SDuensin | Well, BartJol, if you want the dump, lemme know how you want it sent. It's not super-urgent or anything. | 02:56 |
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| BartJol | ok | 02:57 |
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| * SDuensin is just hoping to use Thingy to help rule the world. | 02:57 |
| BartJol | mysql.sock is missing | 02:57 |
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| BartJol | so I'll try to start or restart | 02:57 |
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| SDuensin | Be sure an /etc/mysql/my.cnf didn't slip in. Dang updates. | 02:58 |
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| BartJol | I seem to have a clean server | 02:59 |
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| BartJol | so no other mysql | 02:59 |
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| lelelele | I dont see any GUI. | 03:06 |
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| lelelele | Only a movie. | 03:06 |
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| lelelele | Simple menubar in that movie. Simple CMS, dunno where GUI is here? | 03:06 |
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| @rizen | lelelele: that movie is telling you how to see a gooey | 03:06 |
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| @rizen | GUI | 03:06 |
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| lelelele | I thought it will be javascript. | 03:07 |
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| @rizen | in your demo | 03:07 |
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| @rizen | log in | 03:07 |
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| lelelele | just to make feel of GUI in browser. | 03:07 |
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| @rizen | using admin 123qwe | 03:07 |
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| lelelele | 0k | 03:07 |
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| @rizen | then click the "turn admin on" link | 03:07 |
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| @rizen | the movie tells you to do exactly that | 03:07 |
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| @rizen | and yes, the GUI is javascript | 03:07 |
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| lelelele | ok | 03:07 |
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| lelelele | I am not so smart | 03:07 |
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| lelelele | to see the movie for getting the pass. | 03:07 |
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| lelelele | Would be easier to write on 5em those config infos | 03:08 |
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| lelelele | :) | 03:08 |
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| lelelele | for me as I dont like flash :) | 03:08 |
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| @rizen | not possible | 03:08 |
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| @rizen | you set the username and password wehn you create your demo | 03:08 |
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| @rizen | if you leave it to the default it is then admin 123qwe | 03:08 |
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| lelelele | so how you know my ones? | 03:08 |
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| lelelele | 0k | 03:08 |
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| @rizen | i'm guessing you left the default | 03:08 |
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| @rizen | but i can't predict that everyone will do that | 03:09 |
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| lelelele | duuno | 03:09 |
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| lelelele | I am logged in . | 03:09 |
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| @rizen | click the "turn admin on" link | 03:09 |
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| lelelele | huh? | 03:10 |
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| @rizen | you said you are logged in | 03:10 |
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| @rizen | are you? | 03:10 |
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| lelelele | actually I am not sorry. | 03:10 |
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| lelelele | admin 123qwe ? | 03:10 |
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| @rizen | if you left the defaults | 03:11 |
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| @rizen | then yes that's the username and password | 03:11 |
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| lelelele | Cause there are no info about that. Dunno how people know that it is default. | 03:11 |
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| BartJol | it is quite findasble on the site | 03:11 |
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| @rizen | ok lelelele let's start from scratch because i don't think you were paying attention when you created your demo | 03:11 |
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| lelelele | what you mean about default? Design part? No, I uploaded photo for logo, and changed color. | 03:11 |
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| @rizen | i'll give you step by step directions | 03:11 |
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| lelelele | 0k | 03:11 |
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| @rizen | don't derivate even a little bit | 03:11 |
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| lelelele | 0k | 03:11 |
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| @rizen | do exactly what i say | 03:11 |
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| lelelele | 0k | 03:11 |
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| @rizen | 1) go to http://demo.webgui.org | 03:12 |
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| @rizen | 2) click "Create my personal webgui demo" | 03:12 |
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| lelelele | rizen : I am logged in | 03:12 |
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| lelelele | used your pass | 03:12 |
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| lelelele | I turned admin 0n. | 03:12 |
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| BartJol | while restarting mysql, a new socket should be created, right? | 03:13 |
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| @rizen | yes bartjol | 03:14 |
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| BartJol | mmm, something is awfully wrong then | 03:14 |
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| @rizen | is there anything in your /data/wre/var/mysqldata/servernamegoeshere.err file? | 03:15 |
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| @rizen | it usually tells you what's wrong | 03:15 |
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| lelelele | rizen : works fine | 03:15 |
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| lelelele | did you do this CMS? | 03:15 |
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| BartJol | 081104 2:15:26 [Warning] option 'max_join_size': unsigned value 18446744073709551615 adjusted to 4294967295 | 03:15 |
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| @rizen | lelelele: yes, i founded it, but many people have worked on it since then | 03:16 |
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| @rizen | BartJol: warnings don't count usually | 03:16 |
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| @rizen | BartJol: look for serious stuff | 03:16 |
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| SDuensin | BartJol - If you check the cnf, it's set to 4294967295. Go figure. | 03:16 |
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| lelelele | rizen: whas is the date of foundation, I want to count birthdays of WebGUI since that date. | 03:16 |
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| lelelele | maybe you remember exact day? | 03:16 |
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| @rizen | webgui is 7 years old | 03:17 |
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| lelelele | wow | 03:17 |
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| @rizen | i started development on it in June 2001 | 03:17 |
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| lelelele | I thought it was new. | 03:17 |
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| @rizen | and it's first release to the public is August 16, 2001 | 03:17 |
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| lelelele | nice. So why such small community? | 03:17 |
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| @rizen | it's not a small community | 03:17 |
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| BartJol | ah, can't create a PID file | 03:17 |
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| lelelele | 26 | 03:17 |
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| lelelele | ... | 03:17 |
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| SDuensin | It's "small" because it doesn't run on $5 web hosts. | 03:17 |
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| @rizen | there are more than 10,000 sites running webgui | 03:17 |
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| lelelele | I mean node community. | 03:17 |
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| BartJol | lelelele: and there's even a dutch guy online | 03:18 |
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| BartJol | on this time | 03:18 |
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| lelelele | wow | 03:18 |
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| lelelele | I am LT guy | 03:18 |
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| SDuensin | LT? | 03:18 |
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| lelelele | so OK what I need to test this . | 03:18 |
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| lelelele | Lithuania. yes. | 03:18 |
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| lelelele | I have Apache. | 03:18 |
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| @rizen | WebGUI is primarily used by businesses, not home users | 03:18 |
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| lelelele | what a difference it is CMS. | 03:18 |
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| lelelele | for me all CMS is just CMS. | 03:19 |
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| lelelele | all plenty of not flexibility. | 03:19 |
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| SDuensin | It's the BEST CMS EVER! | 03:19 |
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| lelelele | so I am testing them one after another. | 03:19 |
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| lelelele | last time I tested Drupal. | 03:19 |
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| * SDuensin learned the hard way. He strayed. Never again! | 03:19 |
| lelelele | Very annoying one... | 03:19 |
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| lelelele | The hard thing with CMS is that they are not flexible. I found this one in matrix | 03:20 |
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| BartJol | lelelele: darn, I'be only been to Estonia | 03:20 |
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| SDuensin | I ran Joomla and Drupal. Bad idea. | 03:20 |
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| lelelele | there were many Yes'es written on it. And that word "GUI" though it is not GUI. | 03:20 |
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| lelelele | GUI is win app. | 03:20 |
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| lelelele | javascript can be GUI but many job to do it. | 03:21 |
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| SDuensin | Doesn't have to be. | 03:21 |
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| lelelele | better java. ;) | 03:21 |
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| BartJol | well, deleting an old webgui and wre tar helped | 03:21 |
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| BartJol | Koen just assigned me not enough disc space... | 03:21 |
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| SDuensin | ACK! | 03:22 |
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| BartJol | now it work again | 03:22 |
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| * SDuensin cheers for BartJol | 03:22 |
| lelelele | SDuensin: how you started with WebGUI? | 03:22 |
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| @rizen | lelelele: webgui is so powerful that it actually runs the CMS Matrix | 03:22 |
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| lelelele | wow | 03:22 |
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| lelelele | really | 03:22 |
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| @rizen | yup | 03:22 |
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| @rizen | go to cmsmatrix.org | 03:22 |
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| lelelele | so all those intro page about most clicks is a fake :( | 03:22 |
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| @rizen | and do a view source | 03:22 |
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| @rizen | you'll see a meta tag that says the page is generated using webgui | 03:22 |
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| lelelele | I found WebGUI from that intro page from those "most clicks". | 03:23 |
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| SDuensin | lelelele - I just stumbled on it years ago. Foolishly tried other programs. Almost back to 100% WebGUI. | 03:23 |
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| lelelele | 0k | 03:23 |
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| @rizen | lelelele: no...we don't touch the site. we just let it run | 03:23 |
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| BartJol | ACK, awfully cumulated kunbicles? | 03:23 |
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| @rizen | we were the first site on the list, and we have the most clicks because we've been there from day one, and are the best | 03:23 |
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| SDuensin | I fell in love with the 5.x series. 6.x had some growing pains. Now I'm back, baby! | 03:23 |
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| lelelele | let's assume that WebGUI is so powerful and GUI is so good dev'ed that noone needs to come to smth like #drupal-support for asking "how to change theme". | 03:23 |
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| lelelele | so that is why we are here only some devs and lovers. | 03:24 |
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| lelelele | of WebGUI. | 03:24 |
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| BartJol | SDuensin: ok back to your Thingy problem | 03:24 |
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| @rizen | lelelele: you'd have to be in the community a while to understand | 03:24 |
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| BartJol | I'll open my db | 03:25 |
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| @rizen | the number of people in an IRC channel does not mean you have a good or big community | 03:25 |
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| @rizen | it just means you have a lot of people in IRC or not | 03:25 |
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| SDuensin | lelelele, like I said, it takes a bit more power to run WebGUI. All the kids with $5 a month web hosts can't install it. | 03:25 |
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| SDuensin | BartJol - How do you want me to send my dump over? | 03:25 |
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| lelelele | rizen: I want to start. I have Drupal configured easily. I configured commercial PHP/MySQL/WinApp easily. Hope my Apache/MySQL server is enough for installing WebGUI? | 03:25 |
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| @rizen | lelelele: no, you need the WebGUI Runtime Environment (WRE) | 03:26 |
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| lelelele | Also Perl community forces me to learn Perl not PHP :)) | 03:26 |
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| SDuensin | Yes. WRE! | 03:26 |
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| lelelele | but that is not the most important :) | 03:26 |
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| Radix-wrk | WRE rocks | 03:26 |
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| f00li5h | lelelele: still trolling php, i see | 03:26 |
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| lelelele | WRE reminds me JRE rofl. | 03:26 |
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| lelelele | :))) | 03:26 |
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| Radix-wrk | or even easier.. use the vmware appliance | 03:26 |
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| BartJol | SDuensin: I'm studying the tables | 03:27 |
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| BartJol | ; | 03:27 |
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| lelelele | you mean my output website will have smth like JRE? Without WRE costumers won't see the website? | 03:27 |
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| f00li5h | wut | 03:27 |
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| lelelele | f00li5h : wow you are here too. | 03:27 |
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| lelelele | Gosh, so you are dev of WebGUI? | 03:28 |
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| f00li5h | I am everywhere | 03:28 |
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| BartJol | hee Radix_ good morning | 03:28 |
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| @rizen | lelelele: no: the WRE is a server-side thing...users don't need it | 03:28 |
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| @rizen | just the server | 03:28 |
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| SDuensin | lelelele - The WRE is all the software you need to run WebGUI. | 03:28 |
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| Radix-wrk | WRE is a preconfigured MySQL, Apache, Perl, Webgui setup - ready to go and optimised | 03:28 |
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| lelelele | rizen: ok for my localhost it is ok, what about my ISP? | 03:28 |
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| lelelele | he will not like idea about WRE. | 03:28 |
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| lelelele | I mean hosting . | 03:28 |
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| @rizen | then you probably can't run webgui | 03:28 |
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| @rizen | the server runs the WRE | 03:28 |
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| lelelele | I see :( | 03:29 |
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| lelelele | Anyway for localhost that will be fun to try out. | 03:29 |
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| BartJol | SDuensin: did you assign a default Thing? | 03:29 |
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| @rizen | lelelele: don't bother installing it, just use the demo | 03:29 |
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| Radix-wrk | hopefully soon it'll be as easy as apt-get install webgui (on debian at least) | 03:29 |
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| SDuensin | BartJol - Yea | 03:29 |
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| Radix-wrk | BartJol, morning :) | 03:30 |
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| @rizen | lelelele: what do you want to see by installing it that you can't figure out by using the demo? | 03:30 |
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| SDuensin | Radix-wrk - That would make my day. | 03:30 |
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| Radix-wrk | SDuensin, mine too :) | 03:30 |
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| lelelele | rizen: I begin thinking that WRE is smth like PHP (server side). | 03:31 |
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| @rizen | yes lelelele | 03:31 |
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| lelelele | hmmm | 03:31 |
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| BartJol | SDuensin: if you can give me some rows of Thing and the Thingy that holds it, that might give me some starting info | 03:32 |
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| BartJol | say limit 10 on th e first one | 03:32 |
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| SDuensin | I dumped just the Thingy-related stuff. It's short. Like 12k. | 03:32 |
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| BartJol | keep in mind that it's half past 2 here | 03:32 |
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| SDuensin | hehee | 03:32 |
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| BartJol | in paste bin? | 03:32 |
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| SDuensin | Sure. | 03:32 |
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| lelelele | rizen: WRE is a language like PHP? Or just menubar CMS? | 03:32 |
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| lelelele | BartJol: in my place it is half past 4 | 03:33 |
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| @rizen | WRE= Perl + Apache + MySQL + Image Magick | 03:33 |
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| BartJol | lelelele: I know | 03:33 |
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| @rizen | lelelele: http://www.plainblack.com/tbb/the-case-for-the-wre | 03:33 |
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| lelelele | what about security rizen? | 03:34 |
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| SDuensin | BartJol - http://webgui.pastebin.com/m31b76002 | 03:34 |
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| lelelele | I mean big number operations (shutting down server). | 03:34 |
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| lelelele | PHP handles it by default don't allow too much for scripters. | 03:34 |
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| lelelele | Perl has sandboxes like Java do? | 03:34 |
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| BartJol | found it | 03:34 |
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| BartJol | the dump that is | 03:34 |
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| SDuensin | lelelele - mod_perl has limits like mod_php. It won't run off with your server. | 03:34 |
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| BartJol | not the problem | 03:35 |
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| lelelele | good. | 03:35 |
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| lelelele | 0k. I assume it is very good thing. | 03:35 |
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| SDuensin | lelelele, WebGUI makes everything else look like a toy. | 03:36 |
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| SDuensin | Like rizen said, create a demo account and play with it. | 03:36 |
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| f00li5h | rizen: well, i'm convinced ;) | 03:36 |
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| dionak | i've been convinced by the wre too. it makes it super simple to setup webgui, as rizen mentions in his post | 03:38 |
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| SDuensin | First time I set up WebGUI, I *compiled* *everything*. Talk about "fun"! | 03:39 |
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| Radix-wrk | heh.. been there, done that too ;) | 03:39 |
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| Radix-wrk | I went to great lengths to set up a debian server with webgui - worked great, except I remember getting wierd errors that PB couldn't duplicate.. not big ones, but wierd. Some interaction of perl modules of differing versions caused it. Since switching to the WRE everything has been rock solid stable. | 03:41 |
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| SDuensin | I run WRE on Ubuntu. It's a rock. (Which is the opposite of a brick.) | 03:42 |
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| Radix-wrk | [root@webgui ~]# uptime | 03:43 |
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| Radix-wrk | 10:42:39 up 172 days, 21:33, 1 user, load average: 0.08, 0.02, 0.01 | 03:43 |
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| SDuensin | Yea. Mine is like 6 hours. I updated the OS today. :-) | 03:43 |
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| Radix-wrk | not too bad.. think the last time I shut it down was when we reorganised the server room | 03:43 |
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| lelelele | speed.... what about speed comparing PHP/MySQL running Apache, and WRE/MySQL/Perl website/database? | 03:44 |
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| lelelele | in percents please. My company website is pretty slow with Apache/PHP/MySQL. | 03:44 |
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| Radix-wrk | Assets:5600 | 03:44 |
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| Radix-wrk | Packages:3 | 03:44 |
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| Radix-wrk | Templates:288 | 03:44 |
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| Radix-wrk | Active Sessions:840 | 03:44 |
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| Radix-wrk | Users:11147 | 03:44 |
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| Radix-wrk | Groups:1276 | 03:45 |
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| SDuensin | Can't provide percents. Depends too much on your machine, OS, etc. | 03:45 |
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| @rizen | lelelele: it's not enough to just say perl vs php. because the code running it is different | 03:45 |
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| SDuensin | But it's fast. I run about 18 sites on a low-end server. | 03:45 |
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| BartJol | mmm, SDuensin, I'm afriad it will cost me some time on a more awake and sober moment to work this out, but at the moment the only thing I see that a Thingy_3VuQpp2ZL7Mr5RyLIR7pag is created but, I don't see a relation | 03:45 |
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| Radix-wrk | how can you compare speed realistically? | 03:45 |
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| @rizen | lelelele: what i can tell you is, that WebGUI runs 300% faster on the WRE than it does on native Apache, MySQL packages that come with Red Hat Enterprise Linux | 03:45 |
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| SDuensin | BartJol - Just not sure what caused it to happen. It was fine. I committed a version tag and it blew up. | 03:46 |
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| lelelele | wow rizen, amazing numbers. | 03:46 |
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| BartJol | how's your disc space, it solved my problems 10 minutes ago :) | 03:46 |
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| SDuensin | rizen - Red Hat *finally* fixed their annoying Perl bug. About time. | 03:47 |
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| @rizen | SD yeah, i read about that | 03:47 |
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| SDuensin | Last time I ran Red Hat was before the big change to libc. That's been forever! | 03:48 |
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| @rizen | lelelele: one other thing to consider. a Plain Black employee can install WebGUI using native packages in about 2 hours. or can install WebGUI using the WRE in about 7 minutes | 03:48 |
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| lelelele | rizen: I still dont like admin panel. | 03:48 |
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| SDuensin | lelelele - Why? | 03:48 |
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| lelelele | it is not fast for company to use admin panel online. Why dont you make app for windows? | 03:49 |
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| lelelele | and then export/update database online. | 03:49 |
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| SDuensin | Because a huge part of the world can't stand Windows. :-) | 03:49 |
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| Radix-wrk | not everyone uses windows | 03:49 |
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| @rizen | lelelele: because that only covers windows | 03:49 |
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| @rizen | then we'd need to build an interface for mac, linux, iphones, blackberry's, etc | 03:50 |
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| SDuensin | I'm guessing Windows is the minority here. :-) | 03:50 |
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| @rizen | that's a lot of work | 03:50 |
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| Radix-wrk | I like being able to log into the website from anywhere in the world on any pc and be able to edit/update the website, publish changes, etc | 03:50 |
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| BartJol | SDuensin: my thingy doesn't seem to create a Thingy_id table | 03:50 |
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| SDuensin | Radix-wrk - Agreed. | 03:50 |
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| SDuensin | BartJol - That dump is from 7.5.31. | 03:51 |
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| Radix-wrk | in fact we have users all over the world who do that for our website | 03:51 |
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| SDuensin | 31? 30? | 03:51 |
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| SDuensin | 31 | 03:51 |
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| SDuensin | :-) | 03:51 |
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| lelelele | any CMS does the same `being able` from any place in the world. | 03:51 |
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| BartJol | mmm, I don't have a site I can't fiddle around with from that version | 03:51 |
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| BartJol | only have 7.6.1 | 03:51 |
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| lelelele | for company the speed of database changing is important too. | 03:52 |
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| lelelele | Sure it is not a problem, as we admins can easily make it on localhost and export database. | 03:52 |
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| lelelele | but it is not meant to be so. | 03:52 |
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| Radix-wrk | lelelele, but as soon as you force people to install an application to be able to edit it, then it provides an entry requirement and locks people out | 03:52 |
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| SDuensin | Is your connection that slow, lelelele? Why do you want it local? | 03:52 |
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| Radix-wrk | and makes it harder to change on the fly | 03:52 |
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| SDuensin | It WebGUI required Windows to use it, I'd not be here. | 03:53 |
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| Radix-wrk | neither would PB ;) | 03:53 |
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| SDuensin | hehe | 03:53 |
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| BartJol | oh, and prolly I will will be bothering you tomorrow night too, I'll try to stay awake during elections | 03:53 |
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| Radix-wrk | they all use macs there from what I've seen | 03:53 |
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| @rizen | lelelele: if you're looking for something that installs local then webgui isn't for you | 03:53 |
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| SDuensin | I use a Mac laptop, but that's for the UNIX, not the GUI. | 03:53 |
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| SDuensin | My new business is based entirely on Linux and WebGUI. | 03:54 |
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| SDuensin | :-) | 03:54 |
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| * SDuensin has Gooey sitting on a speaker watching him work. | 03:54 |
| * Radix-wrk wonders where his Gooey dolls are. | 03:54 |
| lelelele | rizen : I have nice database win app, and I compare all CMS (1Mgbit connection) with my PC database in winapp. | 03:54 |
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| lelelele | Believe me the speed of changing database is just as comparing lightning with dunno what. | 03:55 |
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| @rizen | lelelele: that's fine, webgui isn't for everybody | 03:55 |
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| @rizen | lelelele: webgui is the best cms out there for more than 10,000 businesses, but it may not be the best cms for your business | 03:55 |
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| lelelele | No I still use company website with PHP/MySQL. | 03:55 |
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| lelelele | it would be best if we re-programmed old website. | 03:56 |
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| lelelele | But it is total impossible... we using tables and many programmed modules. | 03:56 |
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| SDuensin | I wish I knew what I did to the Thingy. I really want to use it. | 03:56 |
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| lelelele | too expensive to program new modules on Perl. | 03:56 |
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| BartJol | sorry SDuensin, I feel my eyelids dropping down | 03:57 |
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| BartJol | darn gravity | 03:57 |
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| SDuensin | BartJol - That's fine BartJol. Go rest! :-) I can just delete and start over. | 03:57 |
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| SDuensin | (And be more careful!) | 03:57 |
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| BartJol | with what? | 03:57 |
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| BartJol | gooeys? | 03:58 |
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| BartJol | or thingy? | 03:58 |
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| SDuensin | Thingy. Delete them. | 03:58 |
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| BartJol | :) | 03:58 |
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| BartJol | I don't really use them (yet) | 03:58 |
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| Radix-wrk | So on different topic... We've got a famous horse race going on in Australia in a couple of hours.. and I understand there's a similar horse race going on in the USA soon too? :) | 03:59 |
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| BartJol | horses? We only have cow and other cattle races | 04:00 |
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| Radix-wrk | heh.. we race everything here.. even cane toad races | 04:00 |
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| * SDuensin has no idea | 04:00 |
| BartJol | do horses also have those build-in handbags, like all australian animals? | 04:01 |
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| BartJol | arg, my sense off humor is deteriorating | 04:01 |
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| SDuensin | hehe | 04:02 |
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| @rizen | bartjol: do you have a sense of humor? | 04:02 |
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| lelelele | rizen: WYSIWYG editor is superb. Javascript tabber principle is my favorite idea for CMS. | 04:03 |
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| BartJol | rizen: yeah, I do, only yours is so bad, that you don't notice, almost a female-male miscommunication | 04:04 |
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| lelelele | pretty fast loading images from javascript. | 04:04 |
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| BartJol | unfortunately, I would be the female... | 04:04 |
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| @rizen | bartjol: i had mine surgically removed at birth | 04:04 |
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| BartJol | and you try to judge mine? | 04:04 |
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| BartJol | in the netherland, we have a proverb for it | 04:05 |
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| BartJol | it's schoenmaker, blijf bij je leest | 04:05 |
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| BartJol | which means something like | 04:05 |
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| BartJol | shoemaker, stay with your shoe making tools | 04:06 |
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| BartJol | so "rizen: shut up and start programming would be a good equivalent" | 04:07 |
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| BartJol | rizen: you looked really qute in your joker outfit | 04:08 |
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| lelelele | BartJol: how much did you smoke today? | 04:08 |
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| lelelele | your Netherlands proverbs seems to be made from smoking narcotics. | 04:09 |
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| BartJol | only plain tabacco | 04:09 |
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| lelelele | I smoked tabacco too but I am not so rude. | 04:09 |
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| lelelele | Are you m/f? | 04:09 |
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| BartJol | lelelele: no we sell everything to france people to keep them a bit relaxed | 04:09 |
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| lelelele | :)) | 04:09 |
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| @rizen | BartJol is not rude, he's my wife's Dutch boyfriend | 04:10 |
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| lelelele | oh.... | 04:10 |
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| BartJol | and I try to adjust to rizens way off talking, so he understands | 04:10 |
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| lelelele | I see. | 04:10 |
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| lelelele | Denmark... | 04:10 |
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| lelelele | They are smart too. | 04:10 |
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| BartJol | yeah, that's a very usefull remark... Denmark | 04:11 |
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| BartJol | now I'm getting rude | 04:11 |
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| lelelele | huh? | 04:12 |
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| BartJol | and I type too much for being stoned, and believe me, I've got experience | 04:12 |
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| lelelele | D | 04:12 |
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| SDuensin | hehe | 04:12 |
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| lelelele | Dutch == Denmark, what's wrong bart? | 04:12 |
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| @rizen | Danish == Denmark | 04:13 |
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| @rizen | Dutch = Holland | 04:13 |
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| BartJol | or even better "the Netherlands" | 04:13 |
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| lelelele | What a difference, I heared in Netherlands they are mostly from Holland. | 04:13 |
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| lelelele | Even speak Dutch language mostly. | 04:14 |
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| lelelele | whoops or maybe I misunderstood the words. | 04:14 |
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| BartJol | lelelele: you might, it's a quarter past 4 for you | 04:15 |
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| lelelele | 4:14 | 04:15 |
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| BartJol | and you type quite good for this time | 04:15 |
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| lelelele | must sleep:( | 04:15 |
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| lelelele | no really I mistype too much. | 04:15 |
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| BartJol | I'm free tomorrow | 04:15 |
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| lelelele | I not only chat with you but also try to test demo online of WebGUI | 04:15 |
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| BartJol | mwahhahaha | 04:15 |
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| lelelele | hard to concenctrate | 04:15 |
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| lelelele | no need | 04:15 |
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| lelelele | I just tested | 04:16 |
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| lelelele | it is not for me sadly. | 04:16 |
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| lelelele | I will concentrate on making my own php CMS... | 04:16 |
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| lelelele | I feel to bad in all CMS'es... | 04:16 |
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| lelelele | My ideas too many for any CMS out there. Every idea has to add some functions... | 04:16 |
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| lelelele | etc u know... | 04:17 |
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| BartJol | some people here might consider PHP as a curse around here | 04:17 |
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| lelelele | ok see you | 04:17 |
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| lelelele | no not really | 04:17 |
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| BartJol | I don't | 04:17 |
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| lelelele | Perl would be good too but I am newbie | 04:17 |
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| lelelele | so began on PHP... | 04:17 |
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| BartJol | hee, I'm a newbie, don't have php experience | 04:18 |
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| lelelele | i was total newbie just 2008-05-15 | 04:18 |
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| lelelele | on that date I decided to know what does all words like HTTP/CSS means | 04:18 |
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| BartJol | that;s a year or 2 less than me | 04:18 |
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| lelelele | and at the moment I pretty much tested, even ran calculator in JRE JAVA environment | 04:18 |
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| lelelele | some Python scripts. PHP becomes comfortable. HTML tags easy. | 04:19 |
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| lelelele | I mean it is easy to learn nowadays. | 04:19 |
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| lelelele | No need of school. Only one bad thing is IRC. | 04:19 |
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| lelelele | But communication is the key of success :) | 04:19 |
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| BartJol | and I am just learning to program (coo)l stuff | 04:19 |
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| lelelele | I will catch you . | 04:19 |
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| @preaction | i've always felt that dedication and hard work are the keys to success | 04:19 |
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| lelelele | actually they are. | 04:20 |
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| lelelele | But for newbie. | 04:20 |
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| BartJol | most work for me was with tranlating | 04:20 |
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| lelelele | It was big school to get all around, to smell technologies. | 04:20 |
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| lelelele | Now I am enough with google and some .net portals of learning. | 04:20 |
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| lelelele | but node community is always very nice to come back. | 04:21 |
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| lelelele | just to look `is there any easy thing invented yet?` and again: No go learn hard way if you want become master. | 04:21 |
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| BartJol | is "Tere" also lithuanian? | 04:22 |
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| lelelele | And if to use free CMS it is no nice at all. | 04:22 |
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| lelelele | I can make html website as fast as with CMS. | 04:22 |
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| lelelele | I need many functions in portal, but those functions so different from what CMS gives today, that I must learn program/code myself. | 04:23 |
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| SDuensin | Not with forums, user management, etc. | 04:23 |
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| lelelele | sure | 04:23 |
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| lelelele | But for those was eBulletin | 04:23 |
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| lelelele | very nice one long time ago, why Drupal etc came ? Was enough of that one too. | 04:23 |
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| SDuensin | I like everything to be integrated. One account. | 04:23 |
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| lelelele | BartJol: no dunno what you mean. | 04:24 |
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| BartJol | lelelele: it means hi and goodbye in estonian | 04:24 |
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| lelelele | BartJol: in Lituanian for `hi` is "labas" and for `goodbye` is "iki" | 04:25 |
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| lelelele | spelling is without english accent though. | 04:26 |
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| lelelele | i is i, not ai. | 04:26 |
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| lelelele | :) | 04:26 |
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| BartJol | I'll try to remember, allthough it's hopeless at this time | 04:26 |
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| lelelele | a is a, not ei :) | 04:26 |
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| BartJol | ok, Dutch pronounciation is quite similar than | 04:26 |
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| lelelele | that is good ;) | 04:27 |
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| BartJol | s/than/then/ | 04:27 |
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| BartJol | nearest to Lithuania I've beenm was Parnu | 04:28 |
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| lelelele | rizen: I got idea for your new project. Make such a CMS, that from beginning would go configuration/installation of modules what we need to use. E.G. Installing what we need like import images module, changing with Search menubar, sorting database in meny ways, etc. | 04:28 |
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| BartJol | nice beach there | 04:28 |
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| lelelele | That way I could easily add modules which I need. And also translate to my own language. It will look completly cool feeling for users of database inside CMS. Cause they will feel in native CMS which I made. | 04:29 |
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| @rizen | so your idea is that i should build exactly what you need? | 04:30 |
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| lelelele | At the moment it looks ordinary CMS with many things not needed etc etc if you know what I mean. If you ever seen simple CMS made for company needs in native language of course. | 04:30 |
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| @rizen | the way you want it built? | 04:30 |
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| lelelele | yes | 04:30 |
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| lelelele | sure why not | 04:30 |
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| lelelele | like constructor | 04:30 |
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| lelelele | install module | 04:30 |
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| lelelele | delete module | 04:30 |
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| lelelele | smth like that | 04:30 |
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| lelelele | or you mean I can configure that too for certain users like in Drupal? | 04:30 |
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| @rizen | i have a better idea... i'm logging off for the night | 04:30 |
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| BartJol | lelelele: you can choose to not use modules you don't need | 04:30 |
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| @preaction | you can also choose to remove modules you don't want | 04:31 |
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| lelelele | preaction: ok ;) | 04:31 |
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| BartJol | or disable is a better word | 04:31 |
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| lelelele | rizen is cool . | 04:31 |
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| lelelele | I liked him at first sight :) | 04:31 |
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| lelelele | today :) | 04:31 |
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| @preaction | i believe the feeling is mutual even | 04:31 |
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| BartJol | His couch is nice to | 04:32 |
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| BartJol | o | 04:32 |
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| lelelele | BartJol hello | 04:32 |
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| @preaction | his old couch was nicer, that's why i have it now | 04:32 |
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| lelelele | preaction hello | 04:32 |
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| BartJol | preaction: can I sleep at your place next year? | 04:33 |
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| BartJol | the old one was better indeed | 04:33 |
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| @preaction | BartJol, i'm almost 2 hours away from madison, so no | 04:33 |
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| lelelele | hmmm | 04:33 |
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| @preaction | i'd have to be at least 3 hours away to allow you to sleep here | 04:34 |
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| lelelele | you both said His in my script it meant to be "Hi*" | 04:34 |
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| lelelele | so it was script which said hello to you both :) | 04:34 |
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| @preaction | i'd turn off that script, like now | 04:34 |
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| lelelele | what you mean couch :D | 04:35 |
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| lelelele | ok I will turn off. | 04:35 |
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| BartJol | well, I slept at JT's hoem | 04:35 |
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| lelelele | so you talk about bed? | 04:35 |
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| BartJol | home | 04:35 |
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| BartJol | no | 04:35 |
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| lelelele | dunno | 04:36 |
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| BartJol | the thing you can sit on with a couple of persons | 04:36 |
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| BartJol | bench? | 04:36 |
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| @preaction | sofa | 04:36 |
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| @preaction | davenport | 04:36 |
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| lelelele | so you are here | 04:36 |
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| lelelele | like sleeping together ? | 04:36 |
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| lelelele | some of you? | 04:36 |
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| BartJol | no, I was in august | 04:37 |
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| lelelele | you was BartJol (what you were?) and (with who?) | 04:37 |
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| BartJol | JT his wife promised that I could sleep with her, and she would kick him, out | 04:37 |
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| BartJol | I was alone :( | 04:37 |
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| BartJol | JT=rizen | 04:38 |
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| lelelele | oh... | 04:38 |
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| lelelele | rizen is m/f? | 04:38 |
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| BartJol | m/f? | 04:38 |
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| lelelele | i thought it was male. | 04:38 |
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| lelelele | yes, sex? | 04:38 |
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| BartJol | he is male | 04:38 |
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| BartJol | I am too | 04:39 |
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| lelelele | 0k | 04:39 |
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| lelelele | 0k | 04:39 |
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| BartJol | his wife isn't | 04:39 |
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| lelelele | 0k | 04:39 |
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| lelelele | BartJol hello | 04:39 |
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| lelelele | whoops again stupid script. | 04:39 |
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| BartJol | mmm | 04:39 |
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| lelelele | don't use word "his". | 04:39 |
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| BartJol | I'll just finish mu smoke and wodka, then I'll go to bed | 04:40 |
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| lelelele | I cannot go to menubar in my mIRC and turn off. cause I turned off menubar and dunno how to show menubar again. | 04:40 |
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| lelelele | I dranked two beers | 04:40 |
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| lelelele | dont want to smoke at the moment, I just am in my bad all the time with laptop. | 04:40 |
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| BartJol | I top that | 04:40 |
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| BartJol | bad is bath or bed? | 04:41 |
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| lelelele | bed | 04:41 |
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| lelelele | :)) | 04:41 |
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| lelelele | laptop on bath hah | 04:41 |
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| lelelele | would be smth new... | 04:41 |
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| BartJol | ok, otherwise I'll had too warn you for the dangers | 04:41 |
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| lelelele | :)) | 04:41 |
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| lelelele | 0k | 04:42 |
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| lelelele | tell me more | 04:42 |
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| lelelele | about that wife | 04:42 |
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| lelelele | you share same woman with r? | 04:42 |
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| BartJol | not really | 04:42 |
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| lelelele | rizen claimed you are. | 04:42 |
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| BartJol | she just called me her boyfriend | 04:43 |
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| BartJol | and that she would move to here to form my harem | 04:43 |
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| BartJol | but she didn't | 04:43 |
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| lelelele | :: | 04:43 |
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| BartJol | to make it up she wants to couple me to a friend of hers | 04:43 |
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| lelelele | WOW | 04:43 |
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| lelelele | :) | 04:43 |
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| lelelele | Interesting... | 04:44 |
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| lelelele | I have girlfriend too | 04:44 |
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| BartJol | yeah, nice a girlfriend 3000 miles from here | 04:44 |
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| BartJol | but his wife is nice to hangout with | 04:45 |
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| lelelele | but she is blond and doesn't use irc, or understand anything about html etc, she just use some final php products for communication, those slow ones...and plays some very old games :) | 04:45 |
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| lelelele | we are different, cause I like codes, etc , she likes music :D | 04:45 |
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| BartJol | ah, I had one off those | 04:45 |
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| lelelele | you left her or she left you? | 04:46 |
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| lelelele | why? | 04:46 |
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| BartJol | not to be negative | 04:46 |
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| BartJol | well, we just hadn't enough "click" | 04:46 |
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| lelelele | heh yeah | 04:47 |
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| lelelele | that is painful | 04:47 |
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| BartJol | did like each other, and that the other pone had the intrest, but didn't share enough | 04:47 |
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| lelelele | pone? | 04:48 |
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| BartJol | one | 04:48 |
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| lelelele | hmmm | 04:48 |
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| BartJol | was a nice time though | 04:48 |
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| lelelele | she didnt like computers? | 04:48 |
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| lelelele | and your coding? | 04:48 |
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| BartJol | nope | 04:48 |
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| lelelele | she didnt like you sitting near computer when you together? | 04:49 |
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| BartJol | yeah, the fatal point was that she said: I don't like the way you indent in your code | 04:49 |
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| lelelele | you tried to explain her BroodWar strategy game rules but she said she wasnt interested at all to this difficult game? | 04:49 |
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| Radix-wrk | heh.. it's funny because you're thinking of BartJol as a computer nerd - and in rl he's not ;) | 04:49 |
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| lelelele | "intend in your code" ? | 04:50 |
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| BartJol | indent | 04:50 |
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| SDuensin | In real life he's supposed to be RESTING! :-P | 04:50 |
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| lelelele | ah .... | 04:50 |
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| lelelele | BartJol : so you are not geek. | 04:50 |
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| lelelele | like me :) | 04:50 |
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| BartJol | mm, that sounds like a comment for both of us lelelele | 04:50 |
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| BartJol | ok SDq | 04:50 |
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| BartJol | SDuensin: | 04:50 |
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| * Radix-wrk enjoyed many great belgian, dutch and german beers with BartJol when he was in Holland last year. | 04:51 |
| BartJol | and haring | 04:51 |
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| lelelele | wow | 04:51 |
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| Radix-wrk | hehe.. and Haring | 04:51 |
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| lelelele | I drink lithuanian beer mostly. | 04:51 |
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| lelelele | it is very good. | 04:51 |
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| lelelele | too:) | 04:51 |
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| lelelele | I suppose all beer is good in the world :) | 04:52 |
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| Radix-wrk | Beer is good | 04:52 |
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| BartJol | not all | 04:52 |
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| Radix-wrk | not all appeals to everyone | 04:52 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | BartJol: are you a beer snob? | 04:52 |
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| BartJol | but the intention of beer is good | 04:52 |
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| BartJol | perlmonkey2: no, but even I have my limits | 04:52 |
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| Radix-wrk | Beer is liquid hope to the ugly. | 04:53 |
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| BartJol | like bud-light | 04:53 |
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| Radix-wrk | most light beers are crap tho really | 04:53 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | I love light beer | 04:53 |
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| BartJol | or doesn't that earns the label beer? | 04:53 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | you can drink it as long as you want and never get drunk | 04:53 |
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| Radix-wrk | perlmonkey2, really? why? | 04:53 |
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| * lelelele agrees perlmonkey2 | 04:53 |
| @perlmonkey2 | all the while enjoying frosty goodness | 04:54 |
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| lelelele | though I sometimes get drunk from light beer too. | 04:54 |
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| * f00li5h paws at perlmonkey2 | 04:54 |
| @perlmonkey2 | hey f00li5h :) | 04:54 |
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| f00li5h | perlmonkey2: how's things? | 04:54 |
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| lelelele | hi perlmonkey2 | 04:54 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | pretty groovy, about about you's? | 04:54 |
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| lelelele | f00li5h you are here again :)) | 04:54 |
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| BartJol | well, for drinking all day long it's good, but make sure it's chech something similar | 04:54 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | hello lelelele | 04:54 |
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| lelelele | hey perlmonkey2 | 04:55 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | BartJol: Coors light :D | 04:55 |
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| BartJol | s drinking light beer is only allowed if you drink it all day | 04:55 |
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| f00li5h | lelelele: i had to go get milk... came back with $100 worth of food goods -_- | 04:55 |
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| lelelele | wow | 04:55 |
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| BartJol | perlmonkey2: mmmm, I am not rally sure whether I want to know you anymore | 04:56 |
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| lelelele | and we are trolling here in terms of perl channed node f00li5h | 04:56 |
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| lelelele | :)) | 04:56 |
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| lelelele | trollin about beer :)) | 04:56 |
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| lelelele | but doesn't matter, we are Europe time mostly I suppose, so we are a bit relaxed. | 04:56 |
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| Radix-wrk | you guys all php advocates or something? | 04:56 |
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| f00li5h | i wish i had european beer! | 04:56 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | BartJol => beeristocat | 04:56 |
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| BartJol | tomorrow the subject will prolly be elections | 04:56 |
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| SDuensin | BartJol - I hope not. I'm sick of it. | 04:57 |
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| Radix-wrk | Will you vote though - that's the question.. | 04:57 |
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| Radix-wrk | here we're forced to vote | 04:58 |
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| SDuensin | If I get home in time. | 04:58 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | forced to vote? how strange | 04:58 |
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| lelelele | f00li5h : I have one, would like to give it to you, for some food goods from your basket... | 04:58 |
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| Radix-wrk | if you don't vote you get fined | 04:58 |
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| BartJol | perlmonkey2: yeah yeah, go ahead with your impressive booming voice, but you'll have to talk louther if you want to get me shaking | 04:58 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | that is nuts | 04:58 |
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| SDuensin | They're all crooks though. Sucks having to pick the lesser of two evils. | 04:58 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | BartJol: :P | 04:58 |
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| f00li5h | lelelele: you are going to give me food goods? | 04:58 |
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| Radix-wrk | voting occurs on a weekend tho - so everyone can do it.. and we have absentee voting if you're not able to make it to a polling booth on the day | 04:58 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | BartJol: I can't be too scary if I like light beer | 04:58 |
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| f00li5h | lelelele: liquid breakfast! | 04:59 |
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| Radix-wrk | You guys are making me thirsty! | 04:59 |
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| lelelele | f00li5h : just one Lithuanian beer candle. | 04:59 |
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| lelelele | hah:) | 04:59 |
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| Radix-wrk | just going on lunchtime here too.. one hour before the big race | 04:59 |
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| lelelele | ok will be fine for my little sister f00li5h :) | 04:59 |
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| lelelele | I personally prefered some american chocolade :D | 05:00 |
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| f00li5h | american chocolate? | 05:00 |
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| lelelele | not snickers/rafaelo/etc what is plenty in Europe :) | 05:00 |
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| f00li5h | oh! i have british candy, does that count? | 05:00 |
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| Radix-wrk | belgian chocolates are the best | 05:00 |
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| lelelele | yes, smth like with ment | 05:00 |
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| lelelele | I know one very tasty | 05:00 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | okay, the best mass produced ale ever made, Sam Adams Boston | 05:00 |
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| lelelele | we dont have it here :) | 05:00 |
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| lelelele | menthol | 05:00 |
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| Radix-wrk | nor here | 05:01 |
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| BartJol | perlmonkey2: it's not the physical part, only the menatl one, that someone confinced you you like it, they can convince you of everything | 05:01 |
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| Radix-wrk | Little Creatures Pale Ale is a very nice local beer where I am ;) | 05:01 |
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| lelelele | ok | 05:01 |
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| lelelele | it was fantastic night with you | 05:01 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | BartJol: I am a sheeple for beer, or more commonly know as a beeple. | 05:01 |
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| lelelele | but before I get up 10am | 05:01 |
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| lelelele | I need to sleep 5hours and counting | 05:02 |
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| lelelele | bye mates! | 05:02 |
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| BartJol | well, that's one lost soul | 05:02 |
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| SDuensin | hehe | 05:02 |
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| SDuensin | He has some technology issues to work out. :-) | 05:03 |
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| BartJol | allthough I got the feeling he liked us... | 05:03 |
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| SDuensin | How could you not!? | 05:03 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | if he is serious about his goals, he'll probably be back. | 05:03 |
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| BartJol | he even had a conversation with JT, and was not apalled with his "directness" | 05:04 |
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| Radix-wrk | heh | 05:04 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | wow, Obama is trading $9.10 for a $10 contract or 91% chance to win. | 05:05 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | seems like easy money | 05:05 |
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| BartJol | eeeh | 05:06 |
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| Radix-wrk | Does sound like he's won. But it all depends on who hits the polling booths on the day. | 05:06 |
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| BartJol | like, really buying people to vote for him? | 05:06 |
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| Radix-wrk | heh.. I suspect those are the odds for a bet | 05:07 |
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| BartJol | Radix-wrk: well, normally a democracy work like that, but in the USA? | 05:07 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | BartJol: a contract market on who will win. | 05:07 |
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| BartJol | like a bet? | 05:07 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | McCain is trading at $.90 for a $10 contract | 05:08 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | yes, except they call it a market contract | 05:08 |
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| BartJol | that's horrible that it is even legal | 05:08 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | you are trading $10 contracts that pay 0 if the terms fail or $10 if they meet. | 05:08 |
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| Radix-wrk | In the USA - anything is possible.. heck it's possible for a young black boy to turn into an old white woman. (Michael Jackson) | 05:08 |
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| SDuensin | It's like a football pool. | 05:08 |
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| BartJol | yeah, that is given me a lot of trust on US politics... | 05:11 |
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| BartJol | s/is/has/ | 05:11 |
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| * SDuensin is in the USA. Imagine the trust he has. | 05:11 |
| Radix-wrk | heh | 05:12 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | the system is horribly broken. | 05:12 |
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| SDuensin | And massively corrupt. | 05:13 |
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| BartJol | Dutch politics isn't all that, don't get strange ideas about that, but I think I've got more choice than in the US | 05:13 |
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| Radix-wrk | http://sinfest.net/comikaze/comics/2008-11-03.gif | 05:14 |
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| BartJol | but it is always choosing between a vaginal douche and a turd sandwich... | 05:14 |
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| SDuensin | Hey, I don't remember you guys starting a war to protect your personal oil interests. Can't be THAT bad. | 05:15 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | BartJol: Oh come on, we have a Chicago Politician (a pejorative) or a Good ol boy Republican (also a perjorative) to choose from. See, that is choice. | 05:15 |
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| BartJol | SDuensin: no, we just join you to remain friends, allthough we have not that many troups, just send them to win friendship from the UK and US | 05:18 |
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| BartJol | governments that is | 05:19 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | BartJol: you didn't have to do that, I already consider us friends :) | 05:19 |
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| BartJol | yeay, me and you, but our governments?? | 05:19 |
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| BartJol | I don't question all US people | 05:19 |
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| BartJol | only the "board" from the last..... let's say 8 years | 05:20 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | the "board"? | 05:21 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | what is that? | 05:21 |
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| BartJol | perlmonkey2: do you think that things will get better with one of the two president cannidates | 05:22 |
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| BartJol | ? | 05:22 |
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| BartJol | the bush administration perlmonkey2 | 05:22 |
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| BartJol | not directly the senate | 05:22 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | no | 05:23 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | I think things will get worse | 05:23 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | regardless | 05:23 |
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| BartJol | but is that just a economic fluctuation problem or more fundamental? | 05:24 |
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| BartJol | where do your concerns are eventually? | 05:24 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | I think the last 8 years have brought incredible new levels of corruption to government. That will not easily be reversed. | 05:24 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | Not unless Patrick Fitzgerald is given a secretarily position to police Congress :P | 05:25 |
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| BartJol | so a lot of "supporting"people stay or is it a trend to be bribable? | 05:26 |
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| BartJol | stay after the elections | 05:26 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | the political appoitments will mostly all change | 05:27 |
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| BartJol | and bribable has more meanings than just money | 05:27 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | I think the corruption is mostly limited to upper government. There are pretty good checks on the little people. | 05:27 |
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| BartJol | so you expect both candidates to keep that intact? | 05:29 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | How would the president police congress? impossible. | 05:29 |
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| BartJol | s/that/the crruptness/ | 05:29 |
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| SDuensin | Our government needs rebooted. | 05:30 |
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| BartJol | I would like to say thta "sense" would be an answer | 05:30 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | BartJol: here is why this is. Congress approval ratings are at an all time low. At one point they were in the single digits. Yes in the Senate only 8 of the 33 seats up are even contested. | 05:32 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | incumbants just don't lose very often no matter what they do. | 05:32 |
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| BartJol | but if you want to chance other people (than US) you should chance yourself (not meant personally), personally I think a good learning and health program would be a priority | 05:33 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | bah we can get nothing done until the corruption is dealt with. anything done now will be half-assed and full of bribery and payoffs. | 05:34 |
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| BartJol | self sustaining economy would be a help to, instead of just robbing other countries of oil | 05:34 |
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| BartJol | sorry perlmonkey2, my english is not good enough to really get what you meant with:Congress approval ratings are at an all time low. At one point they were in the single digits. Yes in the Senate only 8 of the 33 seats up are even contested. | 05:36 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | s/Yes/yet/ | 05:36 |
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| SDuensin | It's win-win over here. Our "leaders" have personal oil interests *and* private military interests. Go fight over oil and you make money no matter what. | 05:36 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | The Senate (one of the two houses of congress) only 8 people have a chance of losing their seats to a challenger. | 05:36 |
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| BartJol | is that in general? | 05:38 |
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| BartJol | no, apparently | 05:39 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | no, in general it is a lot less. In a normal year, it would be almost impossible to lose your seat in congress. | 05:39 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | so once elected they can be as criminal as they want with little chance of consequences. | 05:39 |
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| SDuensin | Remember, if "pro" is the opposite of "con", what is the opposite of "progress"? :-) | 05:40 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | Don't get me wrong. There is a lesser of two evils to pick from. | 05:40 |
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| BartJol | ah, here a new president is (normally) chosen from the political group that had the highest percentage of the votes, but the congress is renewed as a result from the votes | 05:41 |
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| BartJol | but we have 10+ "groups" | 05:42 |
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| BartJol | in our congress, there's even one that just focusses om protection of animals | 05:43 |
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| BartJol | they have only 1 seat though | 05:43 |
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| BartJol | but, just keep hope, for now... I just go to bed | 05:45 |
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| dionak | election tomorrow...the end of the bush era coming... | 06:10 |
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| dionak | i, for one, am so excited! | 06:10 |
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| @preaction | it may not be the end of the bush era, mccain may get elected ;-) | 06:10 |
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| dionak | true...but still. | 06:11 |
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| dionak | i really think obama will come out on top. we'll see | 06:11 |
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| dionak | never know. | 06:11 |
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| @preaction | http://www.truthout.org/110308A <- let's hope Obama wins | 06:12 |
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| dionak | the last two prez elections i've stayed up all night to see the results. i'm finally taking the next day off to get some rest | 06:12 |
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| dionak | let's hope not... | 06:14 |
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| apeiron | heh | 06:14 |
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| apeiron | It's bloody illegal to remove felons from the voter registration. =\ | 06:14 |
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| apeiron | Or... was. | 06:14 |
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| dionak | during election, i yell at the tele like others do at football games in the us. if it gets close, i'll lose my voice. ;) | 06:14 |
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| @preaction | that hasn't stopped the GOP in the last two presidential elections | 06:15 |
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| apeiron | preaction, Well, yeah. "If we can't win, we'll cheat!" | 06:15 |
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| dionak | there's already so much misinformation. like if you have a traffic ticket, you can't vote. | 06:15 |
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| dionak | it's ridiculous. | 06:15 |
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| apeiron | Yeah. All that's just total bull. | 06:16 |
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| apeiron | See also: http://blog.wired.com/defense/2008/11/air-force-aims.html | 06:16 |
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| dionak | yea, true but it's believed | 06:16 |
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| apeiron | ^ the USAF can't beat the people attacking their sites so they want to literally redesign TCP/IP | 06:16 |
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| apeiron | That'll go over really well with the rest of the world. | 06:17 |
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| apeiron | (for once I am thankful that businesses own our government, they won't stand for this) | 06:17 |
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| dionak | i've gotten at least 8 calls in the last 72 hours regarding voting | 06:17 |
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| apeiron | heh | 06:17 |
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| dionak | it's almost silly | 06:17 |
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| dionak | i've stopped answering | 06:17 |
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| * apeiron spent about 15 hours this weekend doing so | 06:17 |
| apeiron | That was quite the educational experience. I learned where the money goes in a campaign. | 06:18 |
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| apeiron | $400+ USD/day in just pizza. For one facility. Not counting phones or anything else. | 06:19 |
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| dionak | it's amazing how out of touch most americans are that they believe this misinformation. the internet should really be freely available to everyone so they can do their research. | 06:19 |
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| apeiron | yes, well | 06:19 |
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| apeiron | Typical American big business doesn't see things the way we hippies do. :) | 06:19 |
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| dionak | yea, we have biz acquaintances that make mad money on campaigns. quite amazing really that a biz model can be based on re-election. | 06:20 |
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| dionak | shows the machine quality of re-election, and the money behind it | 06:20 |
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| apeiron | That's... quite a lot of trust. | 06:20 |
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| dionak | obama has been campaigning for two years. imagine the capital behind that | 06:21 |
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| apeiron | Billions. | 06:21 |
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| apeiron | Easily. | 06:21 |
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| dionak | yea, silly $$ really | 06:21 |
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| apeiron | But you know what? It's money that's feeding our businesses, feeding our economy. | 06:22 |
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| dionak | true | 06:22 |
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| apeiron | They say war's great for the economy. We've got the war here that's the exception to the rule. I'd go so far to say that the campaigning is what's kept this country the milimeter it is from the economic grave. | 06:23 |
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| dionak | i think the exception is because of the interdependency of the global economy. | 06:23 |
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| apeiron | And if you look back in history at all the previous elections, this one is *huge*. All the candidates are spending enormous amounts of money on absolutely everything. | 06:24 |
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| dionak | yea, it just keeps growing | 06:24 |
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| dionak | obama has set a record | 06:24 |
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| apeiron | oh yeah, I heard about that. | 06:24 |
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| apeiron | I've seen several images around the net about his spending policy, his inexperience. One compares Clinton to Bush 1 and 2 and Reagan. Clinton was tax + spend: surplus. The rest: huge deficit. | 06:25 |
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| apeiron | The other one is a picture of Lincoln with the text "inexperienced Illinois senator" on the bottom. | 06:26 |
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| apeiron | (the latter is on cafepress if you're interested) | 06:26 |
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| dionak | either way, mcain + pailn just frickin' scares me. mostly her | 06:27 |
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| apeiron | yes. Especially considering McCain's health, we're quite possibly literally a breath away from Palin for President. | 06:28 |
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| dionak | love tina fey tho. !! | 06:28 |
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| dionak | exactly! that's why it's so scary! | 06:28 |
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| apeiron | I had a teacher in high school, six years ago (yes, I'm young) who made an interesting remark. He had said that no nation lasts forever. | 06:29 |
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| dionak | i say tina faye for prez rather than sarah. did you catch the prank on youtube? | 06:29 |
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| apeiron | And that there's a growing number of similarities between the US and Rome when it fell. | 06:29 |
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| dionak | good point. smart teacher | 06:29 |
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| apeiron | No, links? | 06:29 |
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| dionak | yea, i've heard the relation. just a sec | 06:30 |
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| dionak | honestly, i couldn't watch it all. thought it was a little cruel | 06:30 |
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| apeiron | heh. | 06:31 |
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| dionak | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMV0LKlVj8I | 06:31 |
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| * apeiron *click* | 06:31 |
| dionak | she and her staff sound so excited, then confused...then disappointed.. | 06:31 |
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| apeiron | heh | 06:32 |
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| apeiron | Have you heard what the McCain campaign is doing now? | 06:32 |
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| dionak | idk, their strategy hasn't changed much | 06:32 |
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| apeiron | They're actually using automated bots to call people and play clips of *Hillary* talking trash about Obama. | 06:33 |
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| @preaction | yeah, By Any Means Necessary doesn't really lend a supporting strategy | 06:33 |
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| apeiron | "maybe in eight years" /me shudders | 06:33 |
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| dionak | i recently heard the robocalls statistically have no effect... | 06:33 |
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| dionak | npr | 06:33 |
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| apeiron | Probably not. But still, it's really low. | 06:34 |
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| apeiron | bahaha "I can see Belgium" | 06:34 |
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| apeiron | .... wait wat | 06:34 |
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| dionak | have you been watching snl? | 06:34 |
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| dionak | lol | 06:34 |
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| apeiron | No TV for me. | 06:34 |
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| dionak | oh, nbc.com | 06:34 |
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| apeiron | It's more a choice thing than anything else. | 06:35 |
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| apeiron | Choice / principle. | 06:35 |
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| dionak | tv? | 06:35 |
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| apeiron | Too much conservativism / DMCA for me. | 06:35 |
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| apeiron | bahahaha, fox news | 06:36 |
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| apeiron | ++ | 06:36 |
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| dionak | apeiron, good to know we have something in common. an interest in us politics | 06:37 |
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| apeiron | You know, I used to be quite apolitical. Then I heard about net neutrality. | 06:38 |
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| dionak | lol | 06:41 |
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| apeiron | hm? | 06:41 |
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| dionak | net neutrality is so controversial that it can't help but motivate us geeks | 06:42 |
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| dionak | if it doesn't motivate us, there's something seriously wrong | 06:42 |
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| apeiron | Oh yes. | 06:42 |
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| dionak | glad it inspired you | 06:42 |
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| apeiron | I saw a lot of merchandise on cafepress with a slogan that says "if you're not outraged, you're not paying attention". So so so true. | 06:44 |
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| dionak | yea, so true. | 06:44 |
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| dionak | ok, i'm out. got to get some EST rest before the big day | 06:44 |
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| SDuensin | Greetings. | 16:14 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | howdy SDuensin | 17:07 |
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| SDuensin | Hey perlmonkey2 | 17:09 |
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| carogray | morning | 17:10 |
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| carogray | editor just deleted a collaboration system trying to delete a thread | 17:10 |
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| carogray | I can find it when I search but no other way | 17:11 |
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| * SDuensin is still playing with Things. | 17:11 |
| carogray | not in any directory | 17:11 |
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| carogray | any clues to restoring collaboration system that is still there in some form somehow? | 17:11 |
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| ryuu_ro | carogray: isn't it in your trashbin? | 17:12 |
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| carogray | not in mine and not in system | 17:12 |
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| ryuu_ro | hmm, that sucks | 17:12 |
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| carogray | you betcha | 17:12 |
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| carogray | wanted to go live this week | 17:12 |
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| carogray | I put in a login request... just thought if anyone were around now I might figure it out sooner | 17:13 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | rizen: any useful utility scripts I write, can they just be added to tools? | 17:14 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | For instance a script that changes the archive on date for all the CS's in a conf? | 17:14 |
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| @rizen | that's probably better to be released into the bazaar | 17:14 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | okay | 17:15 |
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| @rizen | not that you couldn't also put it in tools | 17:15 |
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| @rizen | but that one could definitely be useful to other peeps | 17:15 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | yeah, would be groovy for the bazaar and that's probably where people will lok first. | 17:15 |
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| carogray | oddly enough when I find it in search, I add the ?op=assetManager;method=manage I end up in clipboard | 17:15 |
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| carogray | oh! | 17:15 |
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| @rizen | the tools folder in svn was originally only for our release management tools | 17:15 |
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| carogray | check system clipboard and there it is! Hallelujah. | 17:15 |
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| @rizen | but it's kind of been corrupted over the years | 17:16 |
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| carogray | never mind | 17:16 |
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| ryuu_ro | carogray: good times! | 17:16 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | rizen maybe a new dir for just utilities? | 17:17 |
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| @rizen | perlmonkey2: when it becomes a problem, then we'll worry about it | 17:19 |
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| SDuensin | Hey rizen, is "Thingy" production-worthy in 7.5.31, or should I wait? | 17:21 |
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| @rizen | yes it is | 17:21 |
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| @rizen | we're using it in a few places | 17:21 |
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| SDuensin | Just kinda gunshy after last night. I *really* want to use it for a lot of management functions though. | 17:22 |
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| @rizen | patspam are you here? | 17:43 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | rizen: it'd be 2:50 in the morning there | 17:50 |
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| @rizen | that doesn't mean anything...this is patspam we're talking about | 17:51 |
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| @rizen | ok then, i have a quick poll for the devs that are here: | 17:55 |
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| @rizen | WebGUI::Crud's update() method requires that you pass in a hash reference of properties to set | 17:56 |
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| SDuensin | They all say "yes" - rename the "Advertising" icon! :-P | 17:56 |
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| @rizen | this hash reference is then used to update the database table and WebGUI::Crud's internal data structures | 17:56 |
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| @rizen | it therefore deletes any elements from the hash reference that are not part of it's definition | 17:57 |
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| @rizen | this could either be a bug or a feature | 17:57 |
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| @rizen | the other day this thing hit me because it deleted that element from my hash | 17:58 |
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| @rizen | the thing was, i was jury rigging something...so it basically caught me jury rigging and said "you shouldn't do that" | 17:58 |
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| @rizen | so from that vantage point it's a feature | 17:58 |
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| @rizen | on the other hand, i could make a copy of the hash reference that you pass in | 17:58 |
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| @rizen | which is less efficient than just using the hash reference | 17:59 |
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| @rizen | and then delete what i need to delete from the copy | 17:59 |
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| @rizen | thusly you'd never run into this problem | 17:59 |
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| @rizen | if we keep the first way, this will of course be documented in the pod | 17:59 |
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| @rizen | so my question to you is, which makes more sense? | 17:59 |
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| @rizen | delete from the hash ref, or copy the hash ref? | 18:00 |
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| @preaction | keep it how it is. if they really need to maintain the integrity of their data hashref they can make a new hashref themselves | 18:00 |
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| CIA-6 | WebGUI: perlmonkey2 * r8247 /tools/updateCollaborationArchiveDate.pl: New script that will update all the collab systems for a site (or all sites) to archive after a given period | 18:06 |
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| CIA-6 | WebGUI: jt * r8248 /WebGUI/lib/WebGUI/Crud.pm: Crud create() for specific id (#9035) | 18:06 |
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| CIA-6 | WebGUI: jt * r8249 /WebGUI/t/Crud.t: Crud create() for specific id (#9035) | 18:06 |
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| CIA-6 | WebGUI: frank * r8250 /WebGUI/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Google sitemaps index added to WebGUI | 18:06 |
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| CIA-6 | WebGUI: jt * r8251 /WebGUI/lib/WebGUI/Crud.pm: documented the deletion of elements from the properties hash ref in update() | 18:06 |
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| CIA-6 | WebGUI: frank * r8252 /WebGUI/docs/changelog/7.x.x.txt: google site index | 18:06 |
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| topsub | can i get the userId from.. ^User(userId); ? | 18:12 |
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| @rizen | yup | 18:14 |
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| @rizen | i think that ^#; also does it | 18:14 |
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| topsub | Here is a better idea. I can put a macro call inside the sql reports right? | 18:24 |
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| topsub | That way i can say like where userId = ^#():? | 18:24 |
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| topsub | ah yep this seems like its working | 18:24 |
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| elnino | good morning! I have 7.5.24, and I'm trying to figure out how to make a question on a survey with check boxes, so that people can select more than one answer. Is that possible? | 18:28 |
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| elnino | looking at the webgui site, this feature has seemed to be missing since 2005? | 18:32 |
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| CIA-6 | WebGUI: frank * r8253 /WebGUI/etc/WebGUI.conf.original: Added new content handlers to WebGUI.conf.original | 18:38 |
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| topsub | Threw the inbox system how can i send a message to a group? | 18:41 |
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| @preaction | WebGUI::Mail::Send | 18:41 |
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| topsub | I mean is there a way by default | 18:41 |
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| topsub | not doing anything custom | 18:41 |
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| @preaction | go into the Group manager, click on a group, look for "Send an Email to group" | 18:42 |
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| topsub | hmm will this show up as an "inbox" item? | 18:44 |
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| topsub | not just email them? | 18:44 |
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| @preaction | not sure, try it? | 18:44 |
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| topsub | the private message system we want to send a message to everyone not email. | 18:44 |
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| topsub | hmm doesn't seem like it. that really just emails them | 18:47 |
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| knowmad | rizen: want to hold this SEO conversation in realtime instead of via RFE? | 18:55 |
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| @rizen | for pink slips? | 18:55 |
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| knowmad | you're on, buddy! | 18:55 |
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| @rizen | i don't think that anybody uses pink slips anymore | 18:56 |
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| knowmad | so how do i get keywords field into the meta tags? i don't see any template variables for putting it in there | 18:56 |
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| @rizen | the title to my car is white paper with blue text | 18:56 |
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| knowmad | (that's why i was so quick to agree) | 18:56 |
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| @rizen | heh | 18:56 |
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| @rizen | you don't need template variables | 18:56 |
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| @rizen | just type keywords | 18:56 |
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| @rizen | and they automatically create a metatag in the head block | 18:57 |
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| elnino | rizen: i had to add: <meta etc... | 18:57 |
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| knowmad | oh | 18:57 |
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| @rizen | elnino: that's cuz you aren't using the keywords field | 18:57 |
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| @rizen | you're using the raw head tags field | 18:57 |
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| knowmad | hmm, i don't like it; seems too much like action at a distance | 18:57 |
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| elnino | what version puts the metatag in? | 18:57 |
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| knowmad | 7.5.x | 18:57 |
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| knowmad | i'd guess since that's when the new field was added to the metadata tab for all assets | 18:58 |
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| @rizen | knowmad, whether you like it or not is irrelevant, that's how it works | 18:58 |
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| @rizen | you said you wanted the easy way | 18:58 |
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| knowmad | ok, i'll take it up with template designers but it only addresses 50% of my RFE | 18:58 |
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| @rizen | to add keywords to the head block | 18:58 |
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| knowmad | LOL, you got me there | 18:58 |
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| @rizen | something that a normal user could do | 18:58 |
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| @rizen | it can't be any easier than that | 18:58 |
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| elnino | what about the description metatag? | 18:59 |
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| @rizen | the synopsis (summary) field is supposed to do that, but it doesn't appear to be working | 18:59 |
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| knowmad | but i'm a control freak and want to be able to place my keywords into the head block using a template variable | 18:59 |
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| @rizen | so that's a bug report that needs to be field | 18:59 |
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| @rizen | filed | 18:59 |
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| knowmad | oh, okay; i can do that | 18:59 |
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| @rizen | knowmad...then do it one of the 10 other ways that webgui allows you to do it | 18:59 |
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| elnino | oh. I thought the summary field was for synopis on navigation assets... | 18:59 |
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| knowmad | elnino: it's for that also | 19:00 |
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| elnino | oh. | 19:00 |
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| knowmad | and search results | 19:00 |
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| @rizen | elnino, synopsis is for many things | 19:00 |
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| knowmad | so why didn't I know about this behavior of keywords? | 19:01 |
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| @rizen | knowmad: this is why i said in the ticket that maybe we should have a chapter on SEO in the book | 19:02 |
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| @rizen | in the CM guide | 19:02 |
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| knowmad | with keywords, it's my own fault for not reading the help text | 19:02 |
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| elnino | that would be great. Because even the hover | 19:02 |
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| knowmad | I do agree about a chapter in CM Guide | 19:02 |
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| elnino | doesn't elude to what you say those two fields do. | 19:02 |
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| knowmad | actually it does for keywords but not for synopsis | 19:03 |
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| elnino | you;r right! =) | 19:03 |
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| @rizen | and as i said, synopsis is both broken and used for a lot of things | 19:03 |
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| @rizen | it can't possibly give you a list of all the things it's used in | 19:03 |
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| knowmad | but a few of the main ones wouldn't hurt ;) | 19:04 |
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| @rizen | knowmad: does this mean i get your pink? | 19:04 |
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| knowmad | no, the bug saved me | 19:05 |
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| elnino | knowmad - re seo. Something I brought upto tiffany, is having a | 19:05 |
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| elnino | separate title meta field, as opposed to using the title field on the asset. | 19:06 |
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| elnino | I have a really cool macro | 19:06 |
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| elnino | that checks to see if a title has been defined in the "extra head field" and if it exissts | 19:06 |
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| knowmad | yes, we're seeing similar needs | 19:06 |
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| elnino | it doesn't print out the title field | 19:06 |
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| knowmad | oh, that's interesting | 19:06 |
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| elnino | if one doesn't exists, it uses the asset's title | 19:06 |
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| elnino | I've been meaning to post it. | 19:07 |
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| knowmad | i could see where the Metadata tab would have an SEO section with the synopsis, title and keywords sections; if the title is not defined, it could use the Page Layout or asset title | 19:07 |
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| knowmad | thanks for sharing | 19:07 |
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| elnino | that's what I thought the metadata tab was for, only to find out it wasnt'., back in the 7.3x days. | 19:09 |
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| @rizen | don't confuse metadata with meta tags | 19:10 |
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| elnino | I know, that's what confused me.. The similarity in the name. | 19:10 |
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| elnino | I know now. =) | 19:10 |
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| elnino | I wouldn't be surprised if others got them confused. meta DATA being all that is included in the different meta TAGS. | 19:11 |
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| knowmad | yeah, those caught me up at first also | 19:11 |
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| @rizen | i wouldn't be surprised if someone didn't know what the title field is for | 19:11 |
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| elnino | knowmad, would you like that macro? | 19:12 |
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| @rizen | that's why in 7.6 you can now rename all fields and all tabs to be whatever you want them to be | 19:13 |
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| knowmad | elnino: thanks. i don't have a need for it now but it's good to know you've developed it | 19:13 |
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| knowmad | that's a nice touch | 19:13 |
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| knowmad | bug report added | 19:16 |
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| elnino | thanks knowmad | 19:16 |
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| elnino | I have 7.5.24, and I'm trying to figure out how to make a question on a survey with check boxes, so that people can select more than one answer. Is that possible? I could have sworn I've seen somewhere.. maybe it was in "thingy". but I need it in the survey. | 19:17 |
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| elnino | rizen what is the size of the keywords field? | 19:17 |
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| @rizen | probably 255 | 19:19 |
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| knowmad | rizen: i've altered the RFE to request access to the description and keywords via template variables; i've given 2 reasons why it's "a good thing" | 19:19 |
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| @preaction | i think it gets processed and parsed, so it might be unlimited | 19:19 |
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| @rizen | there isn't really a specific length because keywords aren't really stored in a single field in the database | 19:20 |
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| @rizen | but the form element itself might have a max length set | 19:20 |
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| knowmad | is there a limit in HTML specs? | 19:20 |
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| @rizen | knowmad: it will be rejected | 19:20 |
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| @preaction | no, but the <meta name="keywords"> isn't really used anymore | 19:20 |
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| knowmad | why? | 19:20 |
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| @rizen | because i disagree | 19:21 |
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| elnino | knowmad: there isn['t a limit in the html specs but there are recommendations of so many "terms" | 19:21 |
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| knowmad | that's unreasonable | 19:21 |
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| @rizen | i'm unreasonable | 19:21 |
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| knowmad | like i said... | 19:21 |
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| @rizen | now if you had said "synopsis" and "keywords" then i might agree | 19:21 |
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| @rizen | but description...not going to happen | 19:21 |
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| knowmad | oh, i'm saying the wrong thing | 19:22 |
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| knowmad | i meant synopsis | 19:22 |
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| elnino | keywords are used, just not as important in search engines as it was once. | 19:22 |
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| @rizen | you better hurry and update your RFE before i reject it then | 19:22 |
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| knowmad | it's the SEO stuff that, although search engines don't necessarily rely on, my clients want | 19:22 |
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| knowmad | going... | 19:22 |
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| elnino | same here. | 19:22 |
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| @rizen | i'm probably still going to reject it | 19:22 |
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| @rizen | just cuz it will make you angry | 19:23 |
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| elnino | if marketing thinks it's important.... | 19:23 |
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| @preaction | they only think it's important because they're idiots | 19:23 |
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| knowmad | then i'll have dionak submit | 19:23 |
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| elnino | preaction =) | 19:23 |
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| knowmad | i know you like her better anyhow | 19:23 |
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| @rizen | damn, i can't resist diona | 19:23 |
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| @rizen | =) | 19:23 |
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| knowmad | i knew it :) | 19:23 |
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| @preaction | SEO is snake-oil. if you're already following W3's guidelines on how to create accessible, proper sites then you have all the SEO you need | 19:24 |
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| * preaction insert counter-rhetoric here | 19:24 |
| * rizen must t-r-y to resist diona | 19:25 |
| knowmad | preaction: i generally agree; we're not selling it just accomodating the client who want to use it | 19:25 |
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| elnino | which rfe are you guys talking about? I only see the bug report. | 19:25 |
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| knowmad | #9036 | 19:26 |
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| knowmad | rizen: you're getting v-e-r-y sleepy; cannot resist dionak's demands... | 19:26 |
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| knowmad | poof, there she is | 19:27 |
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| @rizen | noooooooooOOOOOOO! diona is my kryptonite | 19:27 |
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| dionak | hm, my ears were burning | 19:27 |
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| knowmad | i've threatened to put you after him if he doesn't approve my RFE (#9036) | 19:27 |
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| knowmad | i knew he wouldn't say no to you :) | 19:27 |
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| knowmad | it's lunchtime! | 19:28 |
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| knowmad | ttyl | 19:28 |
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| dionak | yea, rizen finds my voice irresistable. | 19:28 |
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| dionak | lol | 19:29 |
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| elnino | anyone know when checkboxes will be added to the survey? I"m using 7.5.24, and they aren't in there. I tried every question type. | 19:32 |
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| @rizen | 7.6.3 | 19:33 |
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| @rizen | survey is completely rewritten | 19:33 |
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| @rizen | and contains multi-answer types | 19:33 |
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| elnino | is there a way to have two instances of webgui installed? | 19:34 |
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| elnino | on the same server. | 19:34 |
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| elnino | oh. 7.6.3 sin't out yet... | 19:35 |
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| elnino | and if I remember correctly, 76 sn't stable until jan? | 19:36 |
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| @rizen | there is a way to do it, but neither i nor any of my staff would ever tell you how to do it | 19:41 |
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| @rizen | because it's just a very terrible idea | 19:42 |
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| @rizen | yes, 7.6 will be stable in january | 19:42 |
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| elnino | I won't hold you to the terrible idea.. I would like hear it, because by boss needs something now. Otherwise, we'll just use survey monkey. =( | 19:43 |
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| elnino | I could probably just write one.. but that would be a waste of time, since you guys rewrote it all. | 19:44 |
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| @rizen | elnino...seriously, i'm not going to tell you | 19:45 |
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| @rizen | it's so bad that i'd rather you use survey monkey | 19:45 |
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| @rizen | it = installing 2 webgui's on the same production server, not the new survey in 7.6 | 19:45 |
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| elnino | if it's installing manually and changing the default installation location (from /data).. I've done that - our product is runnign that way... and I suspect that is what you were going to tell me.... | 19:46 |
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| @rizen | that's not what i was going to tell you | 19:47 |
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| @rizen | and even if it was, i still wouldn't admit it | 19:47 |
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| @rizen | don't do it | 19:47 |
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| @rizen | you are in for a nightmare | 19:47 |
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| elnino | I know. | 19:47 |
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| elnino | and top it off, i did it on a 64 bit machine. | 19:48 |
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| topsub | sending message threw inbox has agroupId so that means i can send a message to everyone in a group? | 20:08 |
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| +perlDreamer | Should the sitemap generator create a sitemap for this url: www.example.com/sitemap.xml/page2 ? | 22:12 |
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| @rizen | no | 22:13 |
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| @rizen | did frank mess up his regex? | 22:13 |
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| @rizen | and i believe it's siteindex.xml | 22:14 |
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| +perlDreamer | It's just missing an anchor at the end. | 22:14 |
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| +perlDreamer | $p =~ m/siteindex\.xml/i | 22:14 |
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| @rizen | you fixing or should i? | 22:14 |
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| +perlDreamer | I'll get it. | 22:14 |
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| @rizen | pd i have some amazing news for you | 22:14 |
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| +perlDreamer | You can hire me? | 22:15 |
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| @rizen | i discovered something (which you may have already known) | 22:15 |
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| @rizen | "theshawshankredemption" is exactly 22 characters | 22:15 |
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| +perlDreamer | no way | 22:15 |
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| +perlDreamer | That's great! | 22:15 |
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| @rizen | i used it as a test guid today | 22:15 |
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| @rizen | in crud.t | 22:15 |
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| +perlDreamer | We have to do better than that | 22:15 |
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| +perlDreamer | It should be the UID for the root node. | 22:15 |
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| @rizen | oooh | 22:15 |
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| @preaction | it's sitemap.xml | 22:15 |
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| @rizen | except...that could screw with backward compatibility | 22:16 |
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| @rizen | so we'll have to wait until webgui 8 to do it | 22:16 |
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| +perlDreamer | preaction, that was a paste from the file | 22:16 |
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| @rizen | preaction? according to the spec on sitemaps.org? | 22:16 |
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| @preaction | i was reading the FAQ on google | 22:16 |
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| @preaction | which is a copy of http://sitemaps.org/protocol.php | 22:17 |
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| @rizen | it looks like khenn is a giant fuckup then =) | 22:18 |
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| +perlDreamer | Hey now, no khenn bashing. | 22:24 |
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| @rizen | you know what | 22:24 |
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| +perlDreamer | Yeah. Nice guy. Plays second base. | 22:24 |
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| @rizen | we could change the parentId of the root asset to "theshawshankredemption" | 22:24 |
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| +perlDreamer | What a great idea! | 22:25 |
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| @rizen | the problem is 2 fold though | 22:25 |
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| +perlDreamer | but what about backwards compatibility | 22:25 |
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| @rizen | nothing uses the parent id of root | 22:25 |
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| @rizen | so it's not an issue | 22:25 |
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| @rizen | however | 22:25 |
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| @rizen | 1) shawshank's playground is supposed to be in testing, not in the rest of webgui | 22:26 |
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| @rizen | 2) if we start using 'theshawshankredemption' out in regular webgui, then we can't use it as a testing guid | 22:26 |
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| @rizen | what do you say about that mr pd? | 22:27 |
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| +perlDreamer | Shawshank is so great it can transcend it's use as solely fodder for testing in this one instance. | 22:27 |
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| @rizen | see i was thinking we should use: thedarkknightisabadass | 22:28 |
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| @rizen | which is also 22 characters | 22:28 |
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| @rizen | =) | 22:28 |
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| @khenn | eh I had that bug fixed in one of my other 1000 copies of WebGUI. I just pasted the wrong one =p | 22:28 |
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| @khenn | it was pointed out during the WUC | 22:28 |
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| +perlDreamer | whysoseriousbatmandude? | 22:29 |
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| @rizen | hehe | 22:29 |
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| +perlDreamer | -whysoseriousbatman- | 22:29 |
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| +perlDreamer | --batmandude has 24 characters. I miscounted | 22:29 |
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| +perlDreamer | idonthaveherinmypants- | 22:30 |
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| @rizen | __why-so-serious-sa__ | 22:30 |
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| @rizen | andimgonnagiveittoem- | 22:31 |
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| Bernd_ | perlDreamer, have you seen the patches for the UsersOnline macro? | 22:33 |
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| +perlDreamer | No, Bernd_. Are they attached to the bug report? | 22:36 |
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| Bernd_ | Yes. There are two of them actually. | 22:36 |
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| Bernd_ | One is for the testing function. | 22:36 |
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| Bernd_ | The other is an upgrade script for creating a new profile field. | 22:36 |
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| Bernd_ | Let me look up the URLs... | 22:37 |
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| +perlDreamer | I'll try to have both of them done by tonight. | 22:37 |
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| +perlDreamer | $dayJob is keeping me very busy these days | 22:37 |
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| Bernd_ | Cool! | 22:37 |
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| Bernd_ | Me, too! | 22:37 |
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| Bernd_ | It is so stressful to be working again :-) | 22:37 |
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| +perlDreamer | Yeah | 22:38 |
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| Bernd_ | So it's the same on the other side of the globe? | 22:38 |
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| +perlDreamer | Last Thursday, I worked 11 hours | 22:38 |
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| +perlDreamer | I worked 5 more on Saturday | 22:38 |
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| +perlDreamer | and on average, a 9-11 hours per day last week | 22:38 |
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| Bernd_ | And how much on Sunday? | 22:38 |
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| +perlDreamer | I took sunday off | 22:38 |
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| Bernd_ | Sounds great... | 22:38 |
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| Bernd_ | for your employer! | 22:38 |
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| Bernd_ | Do you want me to pitty you? | 22:39 |
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| +perlDreamer | indeed | 22:39 |
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| Bernd_ | Sunday off? | 22:39 |
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| +perlDreamer | No, I want you to hire me to work on wG full time | 22:39 |
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| Bernd_ | Hm, I am not sure if you would work for the salary I am able to pay. | 22:39 |
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| Bernd_ | What is your regular job then? | 22:39 |
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| +perlDreamer | I design chips for batteries. | 22:40 |
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| Bernd_ | Chips in batteries? | 22:40 |
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| +perlDreamer | Yeah | 22:40 |
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| Bernd_ | For charging? | 22:40 |
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| Bernd_ | Or what kind of chips? | 22:40 |
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| +perlDreamer | They keep track of serial numbers, monitor battery safety | 22:40 |
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| +perlDreamer | Do remaining capacity | 22:40 |
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| Bernd_ | Oh, you mean like notebook and cell phone batteries? | 22:40 |
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| Bernd_ | Does not sound too bad. | 22:41 |
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| Bernd_ | Deadline ahead? | 22:41 |
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| Bernd_ | Or what is keeping you busy? | 22:41 |
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| @rizen | perlDreamer: i'll offer you a job for $200k per year | 22:41 |
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| @rizen | but i can only hire you on a limited term contract of 1 week | 22:41 |
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| @rizen | =) | 22:41 |
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| Bernd_ | Is that a $200 000? | 22:41 |
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| @preaction | perlbot math 200000 / 52 | 22:42 |
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| perlbot | 3846.15384615385 | 22:42 |
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| @preaction | uh... i'll take it | 22:42 |
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| @rizen | in that one week i need you to accomplish a year's worth of work | 22:42 |
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| @rizen | do we have a deal? | 22:42 |
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| @preaction | oh... now he says | 22:42 |
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| +perlDreamer | Bernd_: Deadline passed many weeks ago. | 22:42 |
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| Bernd_ | What is the equivalent of a year's work? | 22:42 |
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| +perlDreamer | My part of the chip is finished | 22:42 |
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| +perlDreamer | but I'm trying to help others out now | 22:43 |
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| @rizen | 40*52 hours | 22:43 |
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| Bernd_ | perlDreamer, but then time does not matter any longer! | 22:43 |
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| Bernd_ | I mean, once you have started postponing it... | 22:43 |
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| Bernd_ | you can do it again and again! | 22:43 |
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| Bernd_ | That is how we usually handle it :-) | 22:43 |
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| +perlDreamer | Oh yes it does. They later the chip is, the more the bosses start yelling and swearing | 22:43 |
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| Bernd_ | I forgot you have a hire and fire system in the US. | 22:44 |
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| Bernd_ | Not going to take more of your time. | 22:44 |
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| Bernd_ | Need to get up early again. | 22:44 |
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| Bernd_ | But something else concerning all the devs: | 22:45 |
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| Bernd_ | Has anyone started to fix the UserList asset yet? | 22:45 |
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| Bernd_ | If not I will be trying to fix it during my train ride home on Friday. | 22:46 |
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| Bernd_ | So, anyone? | 22:46 |
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| +perlDreamer | I don't have any plans to work on the UserList asset. You would be doing UK a favor by fixing it for them. | 22:47 |
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| +perlDreamer | You would do us all a favor if you rewrote it from scratch. | 22:47 |
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| Bernd_ | Is it so bad? | 22:48 |
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| @preaction | there's even a Report framework you could use to rewrite it | 22:48 |
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| +perlDreamer | I don't think it's a question of badness, just lack of goodness. | 22:49 |
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| Bernd_ | One momen, I was not talking about rewriting it. | 22:49 |
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| Bernd_ | What is the reporting framework? | 22:49 |
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| Bernd_ | Can that be done in about three hours? | 22:49 |
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| @preaction | an experimental piece i've written, and probably not three hours, no | 22:49 |
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| Bernd_ | perlDreamer, that seems to be the same to me?! | 22:49 |
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| Bernd_ | In that case, I am only going to attempt to fix it. | 22:50 |
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| Bernd_ | Never mind. | 22:50 |
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| +perlDreamer | It's probably for the best. | 22:50 |
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| +perlDreamer | (just to fix) | 22:50 |
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| Bernd_ | Alright. | 22:50 |
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| Bernd_ | Let's see how far I can get. | 22:50 |
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| Bernd_ | Good night! | 22:50 |
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| +perlDreamer | Gute Nacht | 22:50 |
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| nuba | i cant believe im reading this on wikipedia: "The issues of caging lists and other techniques of voter suppression which gave rise to many 2004 United States election voting controversies have not been addressed by further legislation or a regulatory crackdown, and are predicted by Greg Palast (an American BBC reporter who has investigated these controversies) to recur to the extent that they could swing the result.[11]" | 22:52 |
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| nuba | from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._presidential_election,_2008 | 22:52 |
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| nuba | is that accurate? | 22:53 |
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| @preaction | yes | 22:53 |
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| @preaction | 100% accurate | 22:53 |
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| @preaction | 20% of the voters were purged from voter rolls in one state | 22:53 |
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| @preaction | (for this election i mean, not 2004) | 22:53 |
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| nuba | also, am I understanding right that this election starts today and goes on for many weeks? | 22:54 |
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| nuba | so its not a single-day event? | 22:54 |
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| @preaction | no, you have until 8pm most places to vote | 22:55 |
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| @preaction | today | 22:55 |
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| @preaction | there was pre-voting, so-called "absentee ballots", but up to 50% of those are rejected for one reason or another | 22:55 |
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| +perlDreamer | nuba, it will take a while to count and double check all the counts. | 22:55 |
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| @preaction | usually the losing candidate concedes the election tonight | 22:55 |
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| @preaction | otherwise, yes, it will take a while | 22:56 |
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| nuba | no electronic ballot there? | 22:56 |
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| +perlDreamer | unless he pouts and throws a fit and tries to overturn it in the courts | 22:56 |
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| @preaction | nuba, yes, some are, but those electronic ballots have proven to be unreliable (and highly inaccurate) | 22:56 |
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| @preaction | in fact, in one state in 04, almost 5% of the votes for Kerry were counted for Bush, which is more than the percentage bush won that state by | 22:57 |
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| @preaction | http://www.truthout.org/110308A <- how mccain could win | 22:57 |
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| nuba | I once met the guy who was responsible for the criptographic routines (signing, hashing, etc) in the brazilian electronic ballot | 22:57 |
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| nuba | they're in production since 2000 or so. | 22:58 |
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| nuba | and there were some people from the US coming over every once in a while to see how it was going | 22:58 |
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| nuba | so i was hoping electronic ballots would be widely used in the US by now | 22:58 |
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| @Haarg | i don't really see the advantage to purely electronic voting | 22:59 |
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| nuba | its been working fine here, and there are some international entities who audit the process | 22:59 |
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| @preaction | i don't think the majority of the US has cared about democracy in a very long time | 22:59 |
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| apeiron | Ideally, electronic voting saves time. Ideally. | 22:59 |
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| @preaction | ha! international oversight is something we would NEVER accept | 22:59 |
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| @preaction | but it IS something that we NEED | 23:00 |
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| @tavisto | interesting how the controversies on that wikipedia page only include the incorrect purging of voters.. I wonder why it doesn't mention anything about registering new false voters as that's clearly a controversy as well. | 23:00 |
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| @preaction | tavisto, registering new false voters doesn't matter, as they can't vote | 23:00 |
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| @preaction | purging existing voters is a problem, since they can't vote | 23:01 |
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| @tavisto | I'm aware preaction, but false votes can easily be tallied when they're pooled into provisional vote pools | 23:02 |
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| nuba | oh just to clarify, international entities dont have sovereignity over the election process, they're just invited as independent auditors | 23:02 |
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| @tavisto | why do you think there was so much stink about the ACORN deal. If the votes had no chance of counting then it would make no sense to pull off the fraud. | 23:02 |
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| @preaction | provisional ballots don't get counted, even provisional ballots from legitimate people | 23:03 |
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| @Haarg | i don't really think electronic voting is much faster than a well designed ballot | 23:03 |
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| nuba | preaction: (im unsure if by oversight you mean having authority over the process) | 23:03 |
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| @preaction | nuba, i just mean auditing | 23:03 |
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| nuba | okay | 23:03 |
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| CIA-6 | WebGUI: colin * r8255 /WebGUI/lib/WebGUI/Content/SiteIndex.pm: anchor the URL for checking whether or not to generate a sitemap | 23:03 |
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| @tavisto | I think WebGUI should be used for all voting machines | 23:03 |
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| nuba | hah! then by unknown reasons it turns out a guy named JT was elected.... | 23:04 |
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| @tavisto | Preaction, provisional ballots are counted but just not until a few days after the election night | 23:05 |
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| @tavisto | so if the race is too close based on regular eligible votes then these very much affect the election. | 23:05 |
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| @preaction | "The great unreported story of the 2004 election was that there were more than three million voters shunted to provisional ballots. Over a million (1,090,000) were never counted, just chucked in the dumpster." | 23:06 |
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| @tavisto | The scary thing is for the system is that the provisional votes cast really lack good methods of scrutiny and verification. According to both sides | 23:06 |
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| @Haarg | that's not really important preaction | 23:06 |
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| @Haarg | the reason they aren't counted is because they couldn't effect the outcome | 23:07 |
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| @preaction | uh... those were in battleground states where kerry lost by a small margin | 23:07 |
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| @preaction | anyway, instead of pontificating here, i'm going to go vote | 23:08 |
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| @tavisto | Yep, there were tons of votes that were tossed in 2004. If I remember right there were tons of ineligible votes for various reasons. It happens in every election. I'm not saying it's right and I'd like to see a better system. | 23:08 |
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| @Haarg | there are lots of other problems with the voting process | 23:09 |
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| @tavisto | absolutely. It's one big mess. | 23:10 |
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| @preaction | indeed, too much partisan play on both sides | 23:10 |
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| @tavisto | absolutely | 23:11 |
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| @preaction | which is why independant international oversight / auditing would benefit us immensely | 23:11 |
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| @preaction | in addition to spending money on better equipment | 23:11 |
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| @preaction | this won't happen, because partisan politics likes the fuzzy system | 23:11 |
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| @Haarg | the equipment doesn't even need to be very complex | 23:11 |
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| @tavisto | we need more prominent parties too. I'm tired of this left/right game. | 23:12 |
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| @rizen | i think the voting system should just be done away with and instead the "let JT decide" initiative should be enacted | 23:12 |
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| @Haarg | we'd probably need to get rid of plurality voting before third parties become viable | 23:13 |
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| @tavisto | I'd like to see the constitution party grow more. (and some other parties) | 23:14 |
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| +perlDreamer | Party at Tavisto's house | 23:16 |
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| @tavisto | sure, I have the campaign HQ party this year in my big ole' home theater | 23:16 |
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| @rizen | tavis, you're kidding, right? | 23:17 |
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| @rizen | about the constitution party? | 23:17 |
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| @rizen | the constitution party is the equivalent of the christian taliban | 23:18 |
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| @rizen | they want to do away with the democracy and replace it with a government rooted in biblical law | 23:19 |
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| nuba | sounds good. | 23:20 |
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| @tavisto | no, actually I'm not kidding. But that's quite a slant you are putting to it. | 23:20 |
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| +perlDreamer | that's not what wikipedia says about it | 23:20 |
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| nuba | whipping the wrongdoers? stoning them to death? AWESOME! ;) | 23:20 |
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| @tavisto | As any political platform expands into the mainstream it gets broader and a bit more mild | 23:20 |
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| @rizen | it say's that right on their web site | 23:21 |
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| @rizen | they want a theocracy | 23:21 |
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| +perlDreamer | links? | 23:21 |
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| @rizen | http://www.constitutionparty.com/ | 23:21 |
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| @rizen | It is our goal to limit the federal government to its delegated, enumerated, Constitutional functions and to restore American jurisprudence to its original Biblical common-law foundations. | 23:21 |
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| @rizen | QUOTE FROM THEIR SITE | 23:21 |
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| @tavisto | but I like several of their core values so I'd like to see them continue to grow. | 23:21 |
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| @rizen | oops, sorry about the big letters | 23:21 |
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| nuba | well, i guess core values rooted on christianism is something very agreeable | 23:22 |
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| @tavisto | if you would read more into this and not jump to your 'Religilous' type response, you'd see they aren't as you're making them out to be. But they are definitely way more conservative than you'll ever vote. | 23:23 |
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| nuba | another thing is having that enforced on you | 23:23 |
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| @rizen | agreeable to whom? religion is hate speech. (not talking about belief in god, talking about organized religion) | 23:23 |
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| @tavisto | The proper and lawful division of governmental authority among the Federal, State and local governments was an arrangement that the Founders rightly saw as necessary to preserving freedom and justice. Only after that federal, constitutional order is restored to its proper balance can we reverse America's slide into lawlessness, corruption and tyranny. | 23:23 |
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| @tavisto | The Constitution Party is the only party which is completely pro-life, pro-gun, pro-American sovereignty and independence, and in favor of a strong national defense. It is also the only party that is anti-globalist, anti-free trade, anti-deindustrialization, and anti-unchecked immigration. We also oppose special rights for homosexuals, the constantly increasing expansion of unlawful police laws,and both foreign aid and milita | 23:23 |
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| nuba | rizen: i like the "be nice to your neighbour" thingy | 23:23 |
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| +perlDreamer | Love your neighbor | 23:23 |
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| nuba | leave his wife alone | 23:23 |
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| +perlDreamer | Take care of the widow and the orphan | 23:23 |
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| nuba | dont take his lawnmower without asking | 23:23 |
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| nuba | that kind of thing | 23:23 |
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| @tavisto | yep, loving your neighbor is exactly the right phrase. And that's biblical baby. | 23:24 |
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| @rizen | you want to make love with my neighbor | 23:24 |
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| @rizen | i can tell you he's not that way | 23:24 |
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| @tavisto | I dont see the word "make" in my sentence above. | 23:25 |
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| @rizen | hehe | 23:26 |
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| @tavisto | But more parties competing in our elections and in our government would be a good thing. | 23:26 |
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| @rizen | first 2 sentences from their party platform: The Constitution Party gratefully acknowledges the blessing of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ as Creator, Preserver and Ruler of the Universe and of these United States. We hereby appeal to Him for mercy, aid, comfort, guidance and the protection of His Providence as we work to restore and preserve these United States. | 23:27 |
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| @rizen | tell me they don't want a theocracy | 23:27 |
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| +perlDreamer | If Obama says that during the national prayer breakfast, I'm going to call you on it ;) | 23:27 |
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| @rizen | second paragraph: This great nation was founded, not by religionists, but by Christians; not on religions but on the Gospel of Jesus Christ. For this very reason peoples of other faiths have been and are afforded asylum, prosperity, and freedom of worship here. | 23:27 |
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| @rizen | tell me they wouldn't engage in crusades | 23:27 |
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| nuba | its a pattern, tho, that once a economic crisis sets in, people's political views swing towards, well, not very friendly parties | 23:28 |
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| nuba | like Germany | 23:28 |
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| nuba | Italy | 23:28 |
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| nuba | did | 23:28 |
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| @tavisto | Exaggeration on your part. You know Christianity and Jesus are deeply rooted in the founding of our country. And since you don't believe it sounds extreme to you. | 23:29 |
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| @rizen | They actually aren't deeply rooted in the founding of our country. Certainly religious freedom is. But many of the founding fathers were athiests | 23:30 |
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| +perlDreamer | Given how we're arguing about religion, this seems ironic: http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20081104/wl_nm/us_religion_dialogue | 23:32 |
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| nuba | well, christian values pretty much percolated thru the building of our western civilization | 23:33 |
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| nuba | in south and central america there's still plenty of mix between religion and state | 23:34 |
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| +perlDreamer | I'm not sure rizen objects to christian values, just to theocratic extremes and religious prejudice | 23:34 |
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| @rizen | i don't at all object to christian values | 23:34 |
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| @rizen | or muslim values | 23:34 |
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| @rizen | or Buddhist values | 23:34 |
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| @rizen | values are a good thing | 23:35 |
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| @rizen | morality is a good thing | 23:35 |
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| @rizen | extremism, in any form, is a bad thing | 23:35 |
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| @rizen | hate is a bad thing | 23:35 |
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| @rizen | war is a bad thing | 23:35 |
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| @rizen | intollerance is a bad thing | 23:35 |
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| nuba | im uneducated about other religions' values, but I can assume they pretty much contribute to their follower's growth and I suppose at the core they're all good in providing guidelines | 23:35 |
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| @rizen | for the average person, i'm certain that belief in a deity helps them through the tough times | 23:36 |
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| @rizen | but i also know that the zealots that are in power of religious organizations | 23:37 |
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| @rizen | often abuse their power | 23:37 |
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| @rizen | and their followers often follow blindly | 23:37 |
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| @rizen | it's true of both religion and politics | 23:37 |
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| @rizen | because, as i see it, they are the same | 23:37 |
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| nuba | that could be said of sports fanatics to some extent, too | 23:38 |
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| nuba | the masses | 23:38 |
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| nuba | some people know how to play 'em | 23:38 |
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| @tavisto | I think that's a load of crap. While you might see that on a black/white level | 23:38 |
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| nuba | and these are dangerous guys | 23:38 |
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| @tavisto | my relationship with Jesus and God is not followed blindly and it surely isn't something on a level as my political beliefs. | 23:39 |
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| juan | i have the next error when i run the next job Send Queued Email Messages Every 5 Minutes | 23:40 |
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| juan | http://webgui.pastebin.com/m33109496 | 23:40 |
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| juan | so i have many email stored in my database | 23:40 |
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| nuba | oops. a on-topic issue! dammit. just when religious debate was about to get interesting!... ;) | 23:40 |
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| @preaction | if a workflow is undefined, it might mean the workflow is disabled | 23:42 |
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| elnino | preaction: registering false voters DOES matter - they don't do checking afterwards, nor do they tie the ballot to a person, so they can't throw the vote out if they find out that it was an illegal vote. It gets counted! | 23:43 |
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| juan | the workflow is enabled | 23:43 |
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| @preaction | elnino, i'm just saying that the person has to show a photo ID at the polling place, you can't just register and have a vote count, you have to have a person to vote | 23:44 |
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| @preaction | there is the mail-in / provisional thing as well, yes | 23:44 |
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| @preaction | both of those loopholes need to be closed. both to count bad votes or to deny good ones | 23:45 |
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| @rizen | tavisto: i said nothing about your relationship with god | 23:45 |
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| @rizen | i was talking about your relationship with your religion | 23:45 |
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| @rizen | they are two different things | 23:45 |
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| @preaction | i would say, like the criminal justice system, if we have to choose, it's better to let bad votes in than to let good votes die | 23:45 |
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| elnino | I dont' want international oversight on our voting. What the international want is not necessarily good for US. - just a little late in this non-webgui related conversation- go vote if you haven't! | 23:45 |
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| @tavisto | Rizen, we dont need to repeat this debate considering you and I have a history of like 15 years of doing it. | 23:49 |
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| @tavisto | Just realize, you're wrong, go to church blindly and be a sheep as you suggest, and join the constitutional party. The world will be a better place. Amen | 23:50 |
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| @tavisto | Oooh and release the new matrix so I can get more ad money. Amen | 23:51 |
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| elnino | I don't know. Our govenement was build with checks and balances in it. With a democratic majority in the house and senate, it only makes sense to have a republican in place for the "check and balance" The majority of the "work" of the governement is done in congress. | 23:51 |
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| +perlDreamer | Yeah, new Matrix | 23:51 |
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| @tavisto | ooh and I want a pony. amen | 23:51 |
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| elnino | preaction - yes, ID should be shown, that would help. I"m still catching up on the thread =) | 23:52 |
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| elnino | there is a lot to be improved upon, but the system was designed very well - kudo to our founding fathers. | 23:53 |
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| * preaction going voting | 23:53 |
| @rizen | tavisto: just agree that religion must die for humanity to survive and i'll buy you a pony and release matrix 2.0. =) | 23:53 |
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| @tavisto | humanity won't survive. There's an end to it. And then there could be more depending on the choices you make while you (and it) is here. | 23:55 |
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| @tavisto | But maybe perldreamer would agree to that so we can get the new matrix. | 23:56 |
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| +perlDreamer | BartJol, I have an i18n bug for you to fix | 00:00 |
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| BartJol | for me? | 00:00 |
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| BartJol | ok | 00:00 |
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| +perlDreamer | I keep getting your vacation email notice in Dutch | 00:00 |
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| +perlDreamer | It needs to do an IP check on the respondant and send them an appropriately i18n'ed message ;) | 00:01 |
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| BartJol | strange, mormally it is send only once | 00:01 |
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| BartJol | :) | 00:01 |
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| +perlDreamer | Yes, once per vacation. | 00:01 |
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| +perlDreamer | That means twice in 3 months | 00:01 |
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| BartJol | you donn't wanna know that I'm free? | 00:01 |
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| +perlDreamer | Free? | 00:02 |
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| +perlDreamer | Like no cost? | 00:02 |
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| +perlDreamer | or not working? | 00:02 |
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| BartJol | not working | 00:02 |
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| BartJol | normally I'm not that expensive | 00:02 |
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| BartJol | depends on the job | 00:02 |
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| +perlDreamer | I might need a low-cost website design. You interested? | 00:03 |
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| BartJol | if you want it to be visible it was cheap, I might be you man | 00:03 |
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| BartJol | depends also whther you arrange it via ProcoliX or not | 00:04 |
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| +perlDreamer | Koen will charge me karma for it, so might be best to work with you directly ;) | 00:04 |
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| * perlDreamer heads to the showers, bbl | 00:05 |
| BartJol | so you have plenty of time and want a really ugly design? | 00:05 |
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| +perlDreamer | ugly design? I thought you were a designer who became a programmer? | 00:05 |
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| BartJol | no a translator | 00:05 |
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| +perlDreamer | oh | 00:06 |
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| BartJol | but I have designed a website | 00:06 |
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| BartJol | and my own: www.bartjol.nl and webgui.bartjol.nl | 00:06 |
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| +perlDreamer | dude, you have hair in that picture! | 00:07 |
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| +perlDreamer | ok, I'm really going to the showers now | 00:07 |
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| @rizen | ok need opinion quick from devs that are here | 00:10 |
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| @rizen | i'm thinking about rewriting the SyndicatedContent asset this weekend | 00:10 |
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| @rizen | just for something to do | 00:10 |
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| @rizen | and i'm trying to decide between two modules: | 00:11 |
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| @rizen | http://search.cpan.org/~kawasaki/XML-FeedPP-0.36/lib/XML/FeedPP.pm | 00:11 |
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| @rizen | http://search.cpan.org/~simonw/XML-Feed-0.23/lib/XML/Feed.pm | 00:11 |
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| @rizen | the first is a pure perl version | 00:11 |
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| @rizen | the second relies on a dozen or so other libraries | 00:11 |
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| @rizen | the first is slower than the second, not that it really matters for our purposes | 00:12 |
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| BartJol | mmm, I'm not dev enough, but I do have a night of election news to go | 00:12 |
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| @rizen | the first is a self contained, small module, the second is enormous | 00:12 |
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| @rizen | the second may be more standards compliant, because it's built on the shoulders of giants | 00:12 |
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| @rizen | they both seem equally easy to use | 00:13 |
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| @rizen | both support RSS 2, 1, .9 | 00:13 |
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| @rizen | both support Atom feeds | 00:13 |
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| @rizen | the programmer in me tells me to use the one that uses a billion modules | 00:13 |
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| @rizen | the sys admin in me tells me to use the pure perl one because it will use a lot less memory | 00:14 |
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| @preaction | which of those dozen do we already use? | 00:14 |
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| @rizen | we use about 1/3 of the dozen | 00:14 |
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| @rizen | maybe as much as 1/2 | 00:14 |
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| @rizen | but certainly not more than that | 00:14 |
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| @Haarg | XML::Atom doesn't want to install for me | 00:15 |
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| @rizen | i got both to install | 00:16 |
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| @rizen | however XML::Atom does look like a pile | 00:16 |
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| @rizen | any thoughts, opinions, scathing rebuttle? | 00:17 |
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| @preaction | heh, simonw just uploaded XML::Feed 0.3 :: [16:17] * CPAN2 upload: XML-Feed-0.3 by SIMONW | 00:17 |
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| @rizen | oh and the reason i'm talking about using these two because they both have a super sweet way of merging feeds | 00:18 |
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| @preaction | depending on the amount used, most likely the XML::Feed will be more advantageous than the PP one | 00:18 |
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| @rizen | and because they both support both RSS and Atom | 00:18 |
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| @preaction | er.. amount of memory used | 00:18 |
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| @preaction | do those modules also generate feeds? | 00:19 |
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| @rizen | i guess i could write a script that tries them both out and see how big the memory difference is | 00:19 |
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| @rizen | yes | 00:19 |
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| @preaction | so whichever wins we can remove some of the other RSS modules once we create the RSSCapable aspect | 00:19 |
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| @preaction | so the total memory use might remain the same with the bigger one | 00:20 |
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| @rizen | yes | 00:20 |
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| @rizen | we'll be removing all the other RSS modules | 00:20 |
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| @rizen | but that has nothing to do with which one we choose | 00:20 |
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| @rizen | or at least shouldn't | 00:21 |
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| @rizen | i'm going to quickly write a script for each | 00:21 |
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| @rizen | and see how they do | 00:21 |
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| @rizen | ok so XML::Feed is 25% larger than XML::FeedPP | 00:32 |
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| @rizen | i suppose i should factor out perl's memory usage before i give that percentage | 00:32 |
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| @rizen | hold please | 00:32 |
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| @rizen | ok on a simple script XML::Feed is 30% larger than FeedPP | 00:34 |
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| @rizen | however | 00:35 |
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| @rizen | XML::Feed lazyloads it's prereqs | 00:35 |
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| @rizen | which means that in practice it will get bigger | 00:35 |
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| @Haarg | XML::Feed also monkey patches XML::Atom | 00:35 |
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| @rizen | XML::Feed appears to be a good module...but unfortunately it's prereq libraries are pretty terrible | 00:36 |
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| @rizen | ok from this overwhelming response, i'm going with XML::FeedPP | 00:37 |
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| @preaction | how much slower is it? just a bit or quite a bit? | 00:37 |
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| @rizen | both Haarg and I are leaning that way, and it appears to just be better | 00:37 |
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| @rizen | not noticably | 00:38 |
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| @rizen | both scripts run in under a second | 00:38 |
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| @rizen | the reason i said it would be slower is simply because it's pure perl | 00:38 |
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| @preaction | good enough for me then | 00:38 |
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| @rizen | but i'll do a Time::HiRes check on them both right now | 00:38 |
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| @rizen | to see | 00:38 |
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| @preaction | use Benchmark instead? | 00:38 |
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| @preaction | it's easier, imho | 00:38 |
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| voteobama | How large is the test data set, though? | 00:39 |
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| @rizen | ok at least on a quick test the pp one is nearly half a second faster | 00:43 |
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| @preaction | should the syndicated content asset be checking for cache integrity? as in, if the cache returns a bad object, the syndicated content asset dies (and takes the rest of the page with it) | 00:44 |
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| +perlDreamer | how about if it just logs a message and sends an email to doug@plainblack.com instead? | 00:45 |
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| @preaction | are you threatening me? i'll have your head for this! | 00:45 |
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| @rizen | XML::Feed time: 0.236068 | 00:45 |
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| @rizen | XML::FeedPP time: 0.052435 | 00:46 |
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| @rizen | that's after taking network out of it | 00:46 |
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| @preaction | dear jesus | 00:46 |
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| +perlDreamer | Has anyone rated the two modules on CPAN? | 00:46 |
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| @rizen | just loading the file from the filesystem | 00:46 |
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| @rizen | both are rated | 00:46 |
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| +perlDreamer | Are there bugs logged against them that are regularly fixed? | 00:46 |
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| @rizen | both have open bugs | 00:47 |
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| +perlDreamer | Tests suites? CPAN smoke results? | 00:47 |
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| @rizen | both see regular fixes | 00:47 |
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| @rizen | though PP is fixed more regularly | 00:47 |
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| @rizen | but it's also newer | 00:47 |
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| @rizen | so that's to be expected | 00:47 |
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| @rizen | both have nice test suites | 00:48 |
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| @preaction | i put my vote in for XML::FeedPP | 00:48 |
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| @rizen | though PP has way more tests | 00:48 |
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| +perlDreamer | XML::FeedPP++ | 00:48 |
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| @preaction | well, it also handles more internally, as opposed to relying on external modules (which have their own test suites) | 00:48 |
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| @rizen | both pass on over 20 systems | 00:48 |
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| @rizen | true preaction | 00:49 |
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| @rizen | ok XML::FeedPP it is | 00:49 |
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| @rizen | seems to have votes from everyone who has chimed in | 00:49 |
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| +perlDreamer | hm | 00:50 |
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| +perlDreamer | 9 devs in the room | 00:50 |
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| +perlDreamer | 3 votes | 00:50 |
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| +perlDreamer | 33% turnout | 00:50 |
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| @preaction | 4 | 00:50 |
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| +perlDreamer | 4? | 00:50 |
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| @preaction | my vote counts damnit | 00:50 |
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| +perlDreamer | rizen, perlDreamer, preaction and... | 00:50 |
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| @preaction | rizen, haarg, perlDreamer, preaction | 00:51 |
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| +perlDreamer | 4/9 is 44% turnout | 00:51 |
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| +perlDreamer | (sorry, Haarg) | 00:51 |
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| @preaction | that's not bad | 00:51 |
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| +perlDreamer | Let's hope the American voters do better | 00:51 |
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| @preaction | probably better than today's national election | 00:51 |
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| +perlDreamer | maybe we should require a double majority | 00:52 |
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| +perlDreamer | that would get people to turn out for the presidential election | 00:52 |
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| @preaction | not really. you can't make people care | 00:52 |
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| BartJol | I would vote, but they don't let me... | 00:53 |
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| @preaction | conscript armies have never worked | 00:53 |
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| @preaction | BartJol, you could fill out a provisional ballot, just don't expect it to get counted | 00:53 |
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| BartJol | mmm, my friend that would come by an hour ago isn't here yet | 00:53 |
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| BartJol | or he's drunk, or doesn't understand how my doorbell works (we have 1 downstairs and one at our front door on the 11th) | 00:54 |
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| @rizen | BartJol, I voted on your behalf | 00:54 |
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| BartJol | ah | 00:55 |
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| BartJol | thanks | 00:55 |
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| @rizen | instead of casting my ballot for me, which is what i would have done, i cast it for who you wanted to vote for | 00:55 |
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| @rizen | =) | 00:55 |
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| BartJol | and, was it the vaginal douche or the turd sandwich? | 00:55 |
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| @rizen | the vaginal douche of course | 00:56 |
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| @preaction | the people have spoken, and we want four more years of Douchebag! | 00:56 |
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| @rizen | at least it will be clean when we're done | 00:56 |
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| BartJol | ah, who do I want to vote for? | 00:56 |
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| @rizen | BartJol, when you were here I'm pretty sure you said Obama. | 00:56 |
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| @rizen | XML::FeedPP is so damn cool that I think the whole Syndicated Content asset could be written in about 1/4 the code | 00:57 |
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| BartJol | rizen: ok your memory is ok | 00:57 |
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| +perlDreamer | with tests? | 00:58 |
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| @rizen | no the tests would take a bit more...but not much | 00:59 |
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| @rizen | since the module itself is doing most of the work | 01:00 |
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| @rizen | not many tests would have to be written | 01:00 |
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| +perlDreamer | rizen: Do you want me to fix the naming problem with SiteIndex, too? | 01:28 |
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| @rizen | sure | 01:29 |
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| @rizen | although graham is in mid-release right now i think | 01:29 |
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| @Haarg | just a sec | 01:29 |
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| +perlDreamer | okay | 01:30 |
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| +perlDreamer | Haarg, it might be better if you fix it yourself then. | 01:30 |
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| +perlDreamer | It's one less untracked/off time commit | 01:30 |
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| +perlDreamer | Because I don't think we should release it when it doesn't work right | 01:30 |
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| @Haarg | release is already done though | 01:30 |
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| @Haarg | what is the issue? | 01:30 |
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| @rizen | perlDreamer: that's what betas are for | 01:30 |
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| +perlDreamer | Naming problem with Content/SiteIndex.pm | 01:31 |
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| @rizen | pd it will go into the next release | 01:31 |
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| @rizen | your fix i mean | 01:31 |
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| +perlDreamer | s/siteindex/sitemap/; | 01:31 |
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| @rizen | he's already got the release done | 01:31 |
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| +perlDreamer | ah | 01:31 |
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| +perlDreamer | okay | 01:31 |
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| BartJol | strange, updat gives an error that it failed, but it did work | 01:44 |
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| BartJol | www_bartjol_nl 7.6.1-7.6.2 | 01:45 |
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| BartJol | Backing up www_bartjol_nl (7.6.1)...OK | 01:45 |
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| BartJol | Correcting the Manage Workflow link in configuration file... DONE! | 01:45 |
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| BartJol | Adding a pre-text property to Thingy fields... DBD::mysql::st execute failed: Duplicate column name 'pretext' at ../lib/WebGUI/SQL/ResultSet.pm line 137. | 01:45 |
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| BartJol | <h1>Problem With Request</h1> | 01:45 |
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| BartJol | We have encountered a problem with your request. Please use your back button and try again. | 01:45 |
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| BartJol | If this problem persists, please contact us with what you were trying to do and the time and date of the problem.<br /><br />Bart Jol<br />bart@bartjol.nl<br />http://www.bartjol.nlLabel not found for "last WEBGUI_FATAL" at ../lib/WebGUI/Session/ErrorHandler.pm line 235. | 01:45 |
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| BartJol | Processing upgrade executable failed! | 01:45 |
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| BartJol | The upgrade process failed and has stopped so you can either restore | 01:45 |
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| BartJol | from backup, or attempt to fix the problem and continue. | 01:45 |
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| BartJol | oops | 01:45 |
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| @tavisto | I noticed that google sitemap was added in 7.6.2. Is this configurable through an interface? | 01:46 |
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| @tavisto | er siteindex | 01:46 |
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| CIA-6 | WebGUI: jt * r8266 /releases/WebGUI_7.6.2-beta: Release 7.6.2-beta | 01:49 |
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| BartJol | mmm it first went through the same process for the same site and then it was ok | 01:51 |
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| @rizen | tavisto: no, it's just auto generated | 01:51 |
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| @rizen | it may eventually be turned into an asset | 01:51 |
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| BartJol | ah, it sees 2 config files | 01:52 |
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| @tavisto | ah okay, so it just takes the pages in the site and formats them to be included in the site index automatically? | 01:59 |
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| @tavisto | for instance if I have a site with 30 pages, how does it know which pages to include or does it include them all by default? | 02:00 |
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| elnino | when I submit a request using a dataform shouldn't I recieve an acknowledgement email? | 02:08 |
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| @preaction | only if you're in the to, cc, or bcc field | 02:11 |
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| elnino | i'm in the "from"... and there is a template for "achknowledgement" - OH. I guess that isn't an ackknowledgement email template. my bad. Sounds like a good rfe. I'll post one. =) | 02:16 |
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| @rizen | BartJol: sarah says *kiss* | 03:19 |
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| @rizen | tavisto: sorry i didn't get back to you | 03:20 |
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| @rizen | it puts in all pages that are visible by "Everybody" | 03:20 |
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| BartJol | rizen: thanks | 03:20 |
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| SDuensin | Evening. | 03:28 |
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| Radix-wrk | Hmm.. I need to create a webgui group that consists of all the users in an existing group that don't have the user profile flag 'opt out from mailing list' checked. | 03:45 |
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| @preaction | build it from an SQL query perhaps? | 03:45 |
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| Radix-wrk | yeah, that's what I was thinking.. was going to ask if that was going to work | 03:46 |
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| Radix-wrk | then I can use the email all users in this group option to send update emails to those users | 03:46 |
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| @preaction | should work | 03:46 |
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| Radix-wrk | okey.. just need to work on the sql query then | 03:47 |
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| Radix-wrk | thanks preaction.. just needed confirmation from someone that I was down the right track :) | 03:48 |
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| Radix-wrk | okey.. this _seems_ to work.. but the numbers of optouts don't add up.. so I'm definitely missing something.. anyone care to check my sql syntax? | 04:16 |
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| Radix-wrk | http://webgui.pastebin.com/m281bef74 | 04:17 |
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| @preaction | Radix-wrk, what about when that column IS NULL? | 04:18 |
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| Radix-wrk | shouldn't c.fieldData<>1 cater for that? | 04:19 |
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| @preaction | no | 04:19 |
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| Radix-wrk | Oh.. there goes my logic then | 04:19 |
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| @preaction | it's a quirk with NULL in MySQL | 04:19 |
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| @preaction | essentially, any test against NULL is false | 04:20 |
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| @preaction | except for "IS NULL" | 04:20 |
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| Radix-wrk | so what's the check in sql - 'c.fieldData=0 or c.fieldData is null' | 04:20 |
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| @preaction | try it, it sounds like it should work | 04:20 |
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| Radix-wrk | add some parens and it works a treat.. sweet.. returned 4503 rows | 04:21 |
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| Radix-wrk | cheers.. didn't know the gotcha with nulls | 04:22 |
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| Radix-wrk | Hmm.. how often does the 'User Count' change in the group list for sql groups? | 04:48 |
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| CIA-6 | WebGUI: patspam * r8267 /branch/WebGUI_flux/ (5 files in 3 dirs): Added 2 new convenience Operators: IsEmpty and IsNotEmpty | 04:48 |
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| CIA-6 | WebGUI: patspam * r8268 /branch/WebGUI_flux/ (6 files in 4 dirs): Add new report table (and sql file), and the survey now does reporting. | 04:48 |
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| CIA-6 | WebGUI: Squashed a bug where Flux wouldn't update dateRuleFirstTrue for a rule that was previously false | 04:48 |
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| @preaction | Radix-wrk, there's a "cache groups for how long" setting in the group configuration, that's how often | 04:49 |
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| Radix-wrk | but that indicates how long it's been cached for, no? | 04:50 |
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| Radix-wrk | at the moment my new groups say 0 | 04:50 |
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| @preaction | oh, SQL groups don't have any real members | 04:50 |
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| Radix-wrk | so wondering if the sql got mangled somehow in the group | 04:51 |
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| @preaction | a person's membership is calculated as necessary | 04:51 |
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| Radix-wrk | Any way I can test to see if it's working? | 04:51 |
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| @preaction | make a group that has you and only you and try to send an e-mail to it? | 04:51 |
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| @preaction | or use the "emailOverride" setting in the config to make sure only you get the e-mails? | 04:51 |
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| Radix-wrk | Hmm.. | 04:52 |
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| CIA-6 | WebGUI: patspam * r8273 /Too many paths: Merge branch '7.6.2-beta' into flux | 06:47 |
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| Radix-wrk | Congratulations President Obama - 44th President of the USA | 06:53 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | Holy crap this is an incredible night. | 07:01 |
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| +perlDreamer | whoa, where did everyone go | 07:19 |
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| CIA-6 | WebGUI: Add the profile field needed by the UsersOnline macro. | 07:21 |
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| CIA-6 | WebGUI: Internationalized the profile field label. | 07:21 |
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| Radix-wrk | hey PD | 07:21 |
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| Radix-wrk | A black skinny kid with a funny name is now President of the USA :) | 07:22 |
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| @preaction | amen to that | 07:23 |
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| Radix-wrk | Both very good speeches tho.. from McCain and Obama | 07:23 |
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| Radix-wrk | HAHAHA - http://www.flickr.com/photos/meghanplowman/3004092303/in/pool-perth_photo | 08:56 |
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| nuba | what? hussein is the new US president? didnt they kill the guy for hiding WMD in somewherekistan? | 14:53 |
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| @tavisto | let me say that the new YUI tabs are damn sexy. Excellent job guys | 17:29 |
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| ckotil | Is there a good way to see which user trashed an asset? | 18:24 |
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| @preaction | the stateChangedBy field in the assets table i think | 18:25 |
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| ckotil | ok. ive already restored it tho. so that info is probably gone now?> | 18:25 |
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| @Haarg | it will be in the assetHistory table | 18:27 |
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| ckotil | ok nice. | 18:28 |
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| ckotil | thanks | 18:28 |
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| ckotil | that is a very useful table. | 18:31 |
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| +perlDreamer | Smoke tests didn't run on webgui.org last night. | 18:55 |
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| @rizen | that's cuz preaction is a bad girl | 18:58 |
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| @preaction | says who/ | 18:58 |
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| +perlDreamer | preaction has mongo cojones, senor | 18:59 |
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| +perlDreamer | and the world's only WebGUI tie | 18:59 |
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| +perlDreamer | chicks dig the tie | 18:59 |
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| @preaction | my smoke tests got run, what happened to yours, rizen? | 18:59 |
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| @rizen | what do you mean mine? | 19:00 |
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| @rizen | yours are the ones that are supposed to do everything now | 19:00 |
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| @preaction | ah | 19:00 |
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| @preaction | doesnt do the nightly build though | 19:00 |
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| @rizen | what does your do then? | 19:00 |
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| @rizen | what's the point of running an extra box if it's not on the current svn head? | 19:01 |
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| @preaction | it is, it runs tests against SVN Head, and it could do the nightly build and upload it to plainblack.com | 19:01 |
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| +perlDreamer | they ran yesterday before the upgrade | 19:01 |
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| @preaction | it also tests against the old stable branch | 19:01 |
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| +perlDreamer | preaction, the SVN smoke test says that there is an error in test #8 of the syntax check test. | 19:27 |
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| +perlDreamer | I can't duplicate that | 19:27 |
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| +perlDreamer | Could you run it by hand and post what's up? | 19:27 |
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| @tavisto | perlDreamer, when you installed WebGUI on your Fedora laptop, which release did you use? | 20:00 |
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| @tavisto | of RHEL, the latest? | 20:00 |
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| +perlDreamer | Fedora 9. I don't use RHEL. | 20:01 |
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| @tavisto | yeah but when you installed WebGUI I mean, what version of the WRE did you use | 20:01 |
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| +perlDreamer | No WRE | 20:01 |
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| +perlDreamer | source install | 20:01 |
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| @tavisto | oh poop | 20:01 |
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| +perlDreamer | Just like Mom used to do it. | 20:01 |
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| @tavisto | well you are no help to me | 20:02 |
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| +perlDreamer | I know y'all love the WRE, but if you want to get into the distributions you'll need to get used to native installs | 20:02 |
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| +perlDreamer | What's the problem that you're having? | 20:02 |
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| @tavisto | there are platform specific notes in the WRE install but I was asked what WRE build someone should use if they're installing on Fedora | 20:02 |
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| @tavisto | and I don't think I've been asked that before. | 20:02 |
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| +perlDreamer | RHEL 5 | 20:02 |
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| @tavisto | I did see your email about how there are only 12 modules missing or outdated for WebGUI | 20:02 |
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| +perlDreamer | yeah, but that's for a native install | 20:03 |
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| +perlDreamer | I think that RHEL 5 is compatible with Fedora 9 | 20:03 |
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| @tavisto | that's great news and I have an email from JT with the contact of a guy who volunteered to work on that. Need to send a followup email | 20:03 |
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| @tavisto | alright, I'll include that in my response then | 20:03 |
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| @preaction | perlDreamer, "my" variable $q1 masks earlier declaration in same scope at /data/wre/prereqs/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8/POE/Component/IKC/Server.pm line 807. | 20:03 |
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| +perlDreamer | hm | 20:03 |
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| +perlDreamer | thanks, preaction | 20:03 |
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| +perlDreamer | I didn't anticipate that it would be a requirement | 20:03 |
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| +perlDreamer | but as long as all else is well :) | 20:04 |
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| @preaction | i'm updating that module now | 20:04 |
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| +perlDreamer | preaction, in case I haven't said it lately, thank you for setting up and maintaining that test server | 20:06 |
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| +perlDreamer | I know it's been a royal pain sometimes | 20:06 |
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| @Haarg | i guess that's something i didn't anticipate with the syntax check changes | 20:13 |
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| @Haarg | If it comes up again in the future I'll have to add a filter so it only pays attension to compile warnings in our modules | 20:14 |
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| @rizen | if i have to choose between getting into distros or using the wre, i think i choose wre | 20:24 |
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| SDuensin | WRE! | 20:26 |
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| @tavisto | JT had a typo.. he meant getting into the Discos. He's a dance machine | 20:29 |
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| @tavisto | does a mean worm for sure | 20:30 |
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| +perlDreamer | 8 billion debian users can't be all wrong | 20:31 |
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| +perlDreamer | except for not using Fedora | 20:31 |
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| +perlDreamer | bopbop: postcards should be mailed tomorrow | 20:31 |
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| @bopbop | great, thanks perldreamer! I appreciate your help. | 20:31 |
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| +perlDreamer | I'm "inviting" Peter and Tim to write one as well | 20:31 |
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| @bopbop | oh, Brennan will like that :) | 20:31 |
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| SDuensin | Go go Debian & Gang! I run my empire with Ubuntu. | 20:32 |
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| knowmad | has anyone noticed that the tabs in data form are no longer movable? | 21:50 |
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| knowmad | i've got a demo site that exhibits this behavior -- http://demo.plainblack.com/demo1225914329_522/home/untitled-data-form | 21:51 |
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| knowmad | try moving tab1 to tab2; looks like it works but then refresh the page and it's back the way it was | 21:51 |
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| knowmad | filing a bug report | 21:51 |
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| metanil | how do we specify a default template for a particular asset? | 21:53 |
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| @rizen | metanil, you have to create a prototype | 21:54 |
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| knowmad | use a prototype | 21:54 |
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| @rizen | or in 7.6 you can override the default in the config file | 21:54 |
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| knowmad | dang, beat me to the punch | 21:54 |
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| metanil | :o | 21:54 |
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| metanil | prototype? | 21:54 |
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| @rizen | metadata tab of the asset | 21:55 |
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| metanil | i didn't really get it rizen (sorry about that). | 21:57 |
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| @rizen | step 1 | 21:57 |
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| @rizen | add the asset that you want to add | 21:57 |
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| @rizen | from the new content menu | 21:57 |
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| @rizen | step 2 | 21:57 |
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| @rizen | go to the metadata tab | 21:57 |
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| @rizen | step 3 | 21:57 |
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| @rizen | set "yes" on "make prototype?" | 21:57 |
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| @rizen | step 4 | 21:57 |
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| @rizen | click "save" | 21:58 |
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| @rizen | now you have a prototype | 21:58 |
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| metanil | I am creating asset by $asset->addChild({classname=>"WebGUI::Asset::Wobject::Folder"............}): | 22:00 |
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| @rizen | oh | 22:01 |
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| @rizen | sorry, thought you were "using" webgui | 22:01 |
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| @rizen | you're programming | 22:01 |
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| @rizen | so if you want to set a template then you find out what the field is called | 22:01 |
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| @rizen | look in the definition of the asset | 22:01 |
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| @rizen | the default one is usually called templateId | 22:01 |
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| metanil | oh .. i see. | 22:02 |
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| metanil | like this one defaultValue => 'PBtmpl0000000000000078', namespace=>'Folder', | 22:03 |
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| @rizen | yup | 22:03 |
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| @rizen | so you can leave it that if you like | 22:03 |
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| @rizen | or you can override it | 22:03 |
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| @rizen | in addChild() | 22:03 |
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| metanil | rizen, this will only apply during the creation of asset, if i somehow changed in manually to different, then it doesn't matter. | 22:04 |
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| metanil | i manual change will override this default one.. (obviously). :) | 22:04 |
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| BartJo1 | so 7.6.2 is dutch, mmm, starnge way to spend my vacation | 22:35 |
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| +perlDreamer | Michael Crichton is dead | 22:51 |
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| BartJo1 | ah, is that the influence of Obama, or is Bush making some final statements? | 22:52 |
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| +perlDreamer | I think it was some alien nano-virus | 22:52 |
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| @bopbop | or cancer | 22:52 |
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| BartJo1 | oops, bad joke again, maybe I should just go drinking | 22:52 |
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| BartJo1 | so everybody here satified with the resuts of yesterday? | 22:58 |
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| @bopbop | yes yes yes | 22:58 |
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| @bopbop | yes | 22:58 |
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| BartJo1 | :) | 22:59 |
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| juan | hi | 23:01 |
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| juan | i have many attachements in a post, and i want ot sort them again, how can i do that? | 23:02 |
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| +perlDreamer | juan, there is no particular order that post attachments are put in. | 23:02 |
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| juan | there is no change to do it | 23:03 |
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| BartJo1 | juan: do you have multiple attachements in a single post? in that case I would have to agree with perlDraemer | 23:07 |
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| +perlDreamer | juan, one potential work around would be to use some javascript to do it | 23:09 |
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| @rizen | perlDreamer: just because Michael Crichton didn't write Shawshank, doesn't mean you had to kill him | 23:13 |
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| juan | yes, i have about 50 attachements in a single post | 23:15 |
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| juan | perlDreamer, put a javascript in the template? | 23:17 |
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| +perlDreamer | yes | 23:17 |
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| +perlDreamer | since the order of the attachments is random, use the template to build a javascript array and then sort it | 23:18 |
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| CIA-8 | WebGUI: graham * r8278 /WebGUI/ (lib/WebGUI.pm docs/previousVersion.sql): update versions to 7.6.3 | 23:50 |
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| metanil | in templateId, there is defaultvalue and namespace.. what is actually mean by namespace?? | 00:16 |
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| @preaction | metanil, the namespace of the template. see WebGUI::Form::Template and WebGUI::Asset::Template for more information | 00:17 |
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| @preaction | think of it as a way to label what template is used with which page | 00:18 |
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| metanil | thanks | 00:18 |
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| +perlDreamer | bopbop, I need a second opinion for a label. You have a sec? | 00:51 |
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| @bopbop | sure perldreamer | 00:53 |
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| +perlDreamer | related to this bug: http://www.webgui.org/bugs/tracker/9002 | 01:06 |
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| +perlDreamer | I originally put in a label that said: Add a variant | 01:06 |
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| +perlDreamer | Steve changed it to the English text: Set sku and price | 01:07 |
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| @bopbop | looking at bug-sec | 01:07 |
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| +perlDreamer | k | 01:07 |
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| @bopbop | was there an rfe or bug that caused Steve to change it? | 01:08 |
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| +perlDreamer | No. I think that he thought that "Add a variant" wasn't clear enough | 01:09 |
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| +perlDreamer | I'm starting to agree with him | 01:09 |
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| @bopbop | I agree, I think set SKU and Price is easier | 01:09 |
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| @bopbop | esp. for new commerce users | 01:09 |
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| +perlDreamer | Cool. I'll make it that, then remove the English text in the template. | 01:12 |
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| @bopbop | ok | 01:12 |
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| CIA-8 | WebGUI: graham * r8283 /experimental/HelpDesk/ (3 files in 3 dirs): use yui 2.5.2 datatable and datasource libs | 01:30 |
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| miloidrr | Hi I have a question about cs template | 17:09 |
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| Lisette | how to do for get the assetId of a post that find in session? | 17:09 |
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| miloidrr | How can i add two variables in a template? | 17:09 |
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| Lisette | how to do for get the assetId of a post that find in session? | 17:15 |
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| BartJo1 | hi Martin! | 17:16 |
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| BartJo1 | miloidrr: do you want two non existing tmp_vars? | 17:17 |
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| BartJo1 | then you'll have to program them in the Post | 17:17 |
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| BartJo1 | you mean vars in the post_loop? | 17:18 |
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| BartJo1 | just read the code to se how the others are added | 17:18 |
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| BartJo1 | and add yours the same | 17:18 |
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| BartJo1 | Lisette: can you rephrase that, I don't exactly understand what you're trying to do | 17:19 |
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| BartJo1 | miloidrr: the existing vars are in the following files: ./Asset/Post/Thread.pm: push (@{$var->{post_loop}}, \%replyVars); | 17:26 |
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| BartJo1 | ./Asset/Wobject/Collaboration.pm: push(@{$var->{post_loop}}, \%postVars ); | 17:26 |
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| Lisette | i have to do a macro that return the url of a atach of a post, but the parameter for to the macro is only the number of post, then i want find tha assetId of the post that called id | 17:29 |
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| Lisette | sorry the macro | 17:29 |
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| BartJo1 | Ok can you put the code in paste bin? | 17:33 |
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| BartJo1 | Lisette: or do you want the input to be the post's assetId | 17:38 |
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| John | Hey | 17:42 |
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| BartJo1 | thta is id in the <post_loop> | 17:42 |
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| BartJo1 | hi John | 17:42 |
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| Guest64427 | HI | 17:42 |
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| Guest64427 | My nickname was changed | 17:43 |
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| BartJo1 | well, we don't like you less because of that | 17:44 |
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| Guest64427 | jajajaj thanks | 17:49 |
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| +MrHairgrease | bart! | 17:52 |
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| +MrHairgrease | do we go to locus tonight? | 17:52 |
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| +MrHairgrease | as a domibo? | 17:52 |
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| BartJo1 | well, first I go to the movies with my mother | 17:52 |
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| +MrHairgrease | oh | 17:52 |
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| BartJo1 | aster that I will be available for drinking | 17:53 |
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| BartJo1 | after | 17:53 |
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| +MrHairgrease | well | 17:53 |
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| +MrHairgrease | if you like you mom better than your friends... | 17:53 |
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| BartJo1 | but you have to work tomorrow | 17:53 |
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| +MrHairgrease | i know | 17:53 |
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| +MrHairgrease | so? | 17:53 |
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| BartJo1 | I just have to divide my attention between all that people who love me | 17:53 |
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| BartJo1 | ;) | 17:54 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | anything in particular I should keep in mind when merging the new survey into [HEAD]? | 17:54 |
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| +MrHairgrease | i never said i loved you | 17:54 |
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| @rizen | Erin is not one of those people BartJo1 | 17:54 |
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| +MrHairgrease | but you're okay for the person you are =) | 17:54 |
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| @rizen | keep your damn hands off her | 17:54 |
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| @rizen | =) | 17:54 |
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| BartJo1 | not yet rizen, not yet | 17:54 |
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| +MrHairgrease | who's erin? | 17:54 |
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| BartJo1 | but she's save from my hands till may | 17:54 |
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| +MrHairgrease | oh | 17:55 |
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| +MrHairgrease | i see | 17:55 |
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| BartJo1 | so you have time enough to win her, after that, it's your own fault rizen | 17:55 |
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| @rizen | true | 17:55 |
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| @rizen | guess i better book a flight out to the east coast | 17:56 |
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| +MrHairgrease | bart, will you be at de vrijmibo? | 17:57 |
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| BartJo1 | I will | 17:57 |
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| +MrHairgrease | ok | 17:57 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | rizen: what do you have to fear from BartJo1? I mean tall, handsome, sexy accent? No threat there. | 17:57 |
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| +MrHairgrease | then, for now, let's take it easy and skip the domibo | 17:57 |
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| +MrHairgrease | pm2: are you sure you're not talking about me? | 17:57 |
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| BartJo1 | and I won't try to confince her to stop smoking | 17:58 |
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| BartJo1 | MrHairgrease: you're not tall | 17:58 |
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| +MrHairgrease | I'm tall enough | 17:59 |
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| BartJo1 | but perlmonkey2, you think I'm handsome and have a sexy accent...mmm | 18:00 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | MrHairgrease: I could be, I get all you tall sexy Netherlanders confused :P | 18:00 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | BartJo1: what are you trying to say? | 18:00 |
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| +MrHairgrease | perlmonkey2: that's perfectly understandable | 18:00 |
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| BartJo1 | well, I was a bit doubting what you were saying | 18:01 |
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| BartJo1 | but don't keep your hopes up, I'm not gay | 18:01 |
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| @rizen | BartJo1: true, you will win because you won't try to convince her to stop smoking | 18:01 |
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| @rizen | BartJo1: but then i'll be without a mistress | 18:02 |
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| BartJo1 | Sarah said you could have Kerri | 18:02 |
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| @rizen | don't want kerri | 18:02 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | BartJo1: well, even if I was gay, my wife would do incredibly harmful things to me. | 18:02 |
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| @rizen | she annoys the hell out of me | 18:02 |
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| @rizen | way too dramatic | 18:02 |
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| BartJo1 | she told me that too | 18:02 |
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| @rizen | alright, fine. you take erin, kerri, and sarah. i'll just call up some whores. =) | 18:03 |
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| BartJo1 | she didn't seem to care | 18:03 |
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| BartJo1 | that's what you wanted anyway | 18:03 |
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| @rizen | indeed | 18:03 |
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| +MrHairgrease | hehe | 18:04 |
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| BartJo1 | if you will become a pimp, they're cheaper | 18:04 |
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| +MrHairgrease | seems the whole polygamistic hippie commune plan is up and ruinning again | 18:04 |
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| BartJo1 | yoohoo! | 18:04 |
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| BartJo1 | perlmonkey2: your wife doesn't secretly wishes a threesome, or with my commune a sixsome? | 18:08 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | BartJo1: you are starting a commune? Does this signify the end of the world? | 18:09 |
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| BartJo1 | nope, just an enhancement of my sleeping conditions | 18:10 |
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| BartJo1 | and probably a lot of nagging | 18:10 |
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| CIA-8 | WebGUI: jt * r8290 /WebGUI/ (7 files in 6 dirs): Added a better mechanism for calculating when content was last modified for cache headers. | 18:11 |
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| BartJo1 | but I'll have to go to watch a French movie with my mother | 18:13 |
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| JohnRestrepo | Hi again | 18:41 |
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| JohnRestrepo | Guys | 18:54 |
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| JohnRestrepo | Anyone of you know how to use the Net::SAML extension? | 18:55 |
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| JohnRestrepo | In WebGUI | 18:55 |
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| JohnRestrepo | anyone has used it? | 18:55 |
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| apeiron | JohnRestrepo, Nope, but if you wanted to use it with wG you'd probably need to write an Auth handler. | 18:58 |
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| CIA-8 | WebGUI: perlmonkey2 * r8291 /tools/disableActivity.pl: This script will remove all activities matching an activity id or a title from every workflow in the site. A single site or all sites can be specified. | 20:01 |
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| mikekgr | hello there, is there any possibility to install webgui in a computer that have not direct connection to the internet (bihing proxy/firewall)??? | 20:32 |
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| +perlDreamer | sure | 20:32 |
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| +perlDreamer | WebGUI does not require access to the internet to function correctly | 20:32 |
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| +perlDreamer | certain functions will not work, though | 20:33 |
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| +perlDreamer | like the Weather Asset, the Stock Tracker asset. | 20:33 |
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| +perlDreamer | trying to fetch calendar feeds or RSS feeds from other external sites | 20:33 |
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| +perlDreamer | and, the little feature that tells you if you're using the most up to date version of WebGUI | 20:33 |
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| +perlDreamer | all optional | 20:33 |
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| mikekgr | yes but during installation at the update from internet phase stop installation due to no internet | 20:34 |
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| @preaction | you don't want to install that way | 20:34 |
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| mikekgr | how to install then??? | 20:34 |
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| +perlDreamer | maybe we need a "How to install WebGUI on an isolated server" wiki page | 20:34 |
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| @preaction | you'll need to download the WRE and the WebGUI versions you want, then do a Manual Install of webgui by extracting the WebGUI tarball to /data/WebGUI | 20:34 |
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| @preaction | perlDreamer, good idea. or "How to do a manual install" or something | 20:35 |
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| +perlDreamer | preaction, if you dictate, I'll wiki it | 20:35 |
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| +perlDreamer | Are there more details than you just went through? | 20:35 |
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| @preaction | not really | 20:35 |
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| mikekgr | ok give me 1-2 minutes to write after checking again | 20:35 |
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| @preaction | you go through the WRE's install procedure until it says "Installing WebGUI" and has the button for "Manual Install" | 20:36 |
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| @preaction | BEFORE hitting that button, extract WebGUI to /data/WebGUI | 20:36 |
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| @preaction | then hit that button | 20:36 |
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| @preaction | that should be it | 20:36 |
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| +perlDreamer | Okay, I'll start the page | 20:36 |
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| mikekgr | I Download and try to installed WRE (for Debian), I followed this instructions: http://www.plainblack.com/community-wiki/wre-installation the step that was not possible to finish was: " ./wreconsole.pl " Any workaround? | 20:39 |
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| @preaction | why can't you run the wreconsole? | 20:40 |
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| +perlDreamer | mikekgr: What happens when you try to run the wreconsole? | 20:41 |
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| mikekgr | No I can run it but when I go to: http://myserver:60834/setup there need to do update check and have problem here... | 20:41 |
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| @preaction | mikekgr, what step is that? | 20:41 |
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| @preaction | it should just time out and proceed normally | 20:42 |
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| mikekgr | I am not at that computer right now but this page try to setup everything and when try to "check for update" stopped here and at "server" console take an error that the update can not be done and stay there... | 20:43 |
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| mikekgr | no it does not continue after that error | 20:44 |
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| @preaction | unless i know what step that is i can't help you. was it after you clicked "Automatic Install"? | 20:44 |
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| mikekgr | yes sure | 20:45 |
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| @preaction | that's what you don't want to do. The other button on that page is "Manual Install", and that's the button you want | 20:45 |
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| @preaction | as i mentioned above, BEFORE you hit Manual Install, you unzip the WebGUI tarball to /data/WebGUI | 20:46 |
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| @preaction | that's the tarball you got from http://update.webgui.org | 20:46 |
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| mikekgr | ok I see I will try it tomorrow. Many thanks | 20:46 |
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| +perlDreamer | preaction: wiki page is up | 21:09 |
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| +perlDreamer | It could use some linkage and some indexage, but people who search should find it | 21:09 |
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| @preaction | sweet, thanks | 21:09 |
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| @preaction | uh... why does the t/Asset/Wobject/DataForm/DataForm.t test the Article asset? | 21:20 |
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| @Haarg | heh | 21:21 |
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| @Haarg | that may be my fault | 21:21 |
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| @Haarg | indeed it is | 21:22 |
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| @preaction | how is testing the DataForm going to work if it creates a new revision of itself with every action? | 21:25 |
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| @preaction | oh, nm | 21:25 |
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| @preaction | those are only the www_ actions | 21:25 |
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| CIA-8 | WebGUI: perlmonkey2 * r8292 /branch/WebGUI_Survey2/lib/WebGUI/Asset/Wobject/Survey/ (SurveyJSON.pm ResponseJSON.pm): prepping for merge | 21:46 |
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| topsub | I wasn't logged into the webgui.org site and went to view a forum post and gave me permission deined. Is that correct? | 21:48 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | hmm, I'm merging the Survey2 branch to HEAD, which is all new files exept for Survey.pm. I don't want to merge it because nothing in the original should stay. Should I svn del it then readd it with the new file? | 21:48 |
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| @preaction | topsub, which forum post? | 21:49 |
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| @preaction | perlmonkey2, that should work fine | 21:50 |
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| topsub | it was ,http://www.plainblack.com/etcetera/two-proxies-pointing-to-the-same-modperl#piIfU0tfORt2TENZlGcmog | 21:50 |
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| topsub | but now i log out and try it again and it works fine | 21:51 |
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| topsub | Not sure why the first time i went to the post it said permission deined | 21:51 |
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| @preaction | yeah. not sure either... | 21:51 |
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| @preaction | i logged out and works fine for me | 21:51 |
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| @preaction | if you can reproduce, let us know so we can look deeper | 21:51 |
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| topsub | hmm ya now i just sound werid because i can't reproduce it.. lol | 21:54 |
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| topsub | Seems to be fine. not sure where it thought i was trying to go to give me permission deined. | 21:54 |
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| metanil | i think the line no 314 at file /extras/assetManager/assetManager.js should be fixed.. | 22:32 |
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| metanil | its -->> var url = "http://" + hostName + this.focusObject.metaData.url; | 22:33 |
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| metanil | hard coded "http://" | 22:33 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | If I try to merge Survey2 branch objects that didn't exist in head, I get a they don't exist error. If I try to add them, I get a they are already under source control error. | 22:33 |
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| @preaction | perlmonkey2, did you copy the .svn directories from your branch? that could be the problem | 22:33 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | hmm, I'll check | 22:33 |
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| +perlDreamer | metanil, please file that as a bug | 23:05 |
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| metanil | yeah.. | 23:07 |
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| @Haarg | perlmonkey2, did you get the survey merged? it looks like it's missing the main file | 23:46 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | Haarg: how so? | 23:54 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | Survey.pm should be there | 23:54 |
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| +perlDreamer | No Survey.pm | 23:55 |
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| @Haarg | you can't add and delete a file in one rev with svn | 23:56 |
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| @Haarg | you can change a file though | 23:56 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | whups | 23:56 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | okay, added | 23:58 |
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| Bernd_ | rizen, I just met Klaus in Mannheim at our first webgui drinks. | 00:02 |
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| Bernd_ | We have discussed about how to grow the German community. | 00:02 |
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| Bernd_ | Would it be possible to have a German forum on webgui.org? | 00:03 |
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| @rizen | if that would help you, sure | 00:03 |
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| @rizen | i'm all about growing the community | 00:03 |
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| Bernd_ | I am thinking about something like a self-assignable webgui group. | 00:03 |
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| @rizen | but...wouldn't it be better to have a full german site? | 00:03 |
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| Bernd_ | We could internationalize webgui.org at one point. | 00:04 |
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| Bernd_ | webgui-cms.de is already dead. | 00:04 |
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| Bernd_ | And Andreas Graf (the owner) does not seem to be interested that much | 00:04 |
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| Bernd_ | in revitalizing it. | 00:04 |
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| Bernd_ | A forum would be a good starting point. | 00:04 |
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| Bernd_ | What about a webgui group to which people can assign by themselves. | 00:05 |
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| @rizen | well if you want a forum i can give you that | 00:05 |
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| @rizen | what is the group for? | 00:05 |
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| Bernd_ | To make the forum visible. | 00:05 |
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| @rizen | why not just always leave it visible? | 00:05 |
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| Bernd_ | That way we can have many national groups on webgui.org | 00:05 |
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| Bernd_ | and still keep the board tidy and short. | 00:06 |
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| @rizen | i know what you're saying, but why not have all the national groups visible? i think it makes the webgui community look bigger and cooler | 00:06 |
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| Bernd_ | I mean, the German forum is probably only the beginning. | 00:06 |
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| Bernd_ | Alright. | 00:06 |
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| Bernd_ | Make it visible then. | 00:06 |
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| @rizen | could you type the name as it should appear in german? | 00:07 |
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| @rizen | so i can put it in? | 00:07 |
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| Bernd_ | Now? Or as an RFE? | 00:07 |
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| @rizen | now | 00:07 |
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| @rizen | i'll do it now | 00:07 |
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| Bernd_ | >Good. Let me think for a moment. | 00:07 |
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| @rizen | i'll also make your user account the "owner" of the CS so that you can edit it | 00:07 |
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| Bernd_ | What about the translation of "German user group"? | 00:08 |
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| Bernd_ | as title, I mean. | 00:08 |
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| @rizen | fine by me...whatever you think will attract german speaking users | 00:08 |
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| Bernd_ | Let's go with that for the moment. The German translation is "Deutsche Benutzergruppe". | 00:09 |
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| Bernd_ | We can still change it later on. | 00:09 |
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| @rizen | oh and also type up a one or two sentence description in german | 00:09 |
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| @rizen | like each other forum has | 00:09 |
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| @rizen | a description | 00:09 |
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| Bernd_ | Can I do that later on? | 00:09 |
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| @rizen | i guess so since you'll have edit rights | 00:09 |
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| Bernd_ | I am still in the train, it is late and I have had more than two beers. | 00:09 |
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| @rizen | hehe | 00:09 |
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| Bernd_ | Good. | 00:09 |
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| Bernd_ | We have also agreed on meeting regularly. | 00:10 |
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| @rizen | ok, when you sober up and wake up, post a welcome message to the board | 00:10 |
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| @rizen | sweet | 00:10 |
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| Bernd_ | That is once a month. Alternating between Heidelberg and Mannheim. | 00:10 |
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| Bernd_ | I am going to post to the calendar soon. | 00:10 |
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| Bernd_ | Hope there are more to join. | 00:10 |
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| Bernd_ | One more thing: | 00:11 |
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| Bernd_ | What about the extended demo I have suggested to tavis already? | 00:11 |
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| Bernd_ | Have you read that thread? | 00:11 |
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| @rizen | haven't read that thread | 00:11 |
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| @rizen | i'll go look for it | 00:12 |
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| Bernd_ | I think we could attract a lot more people by offering an extended demo for about one month. | 00:12 |
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| Bernd_ | That way people can play with webgui a bit more. | 00:12 |
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| Bernd_ | Klaus would be willing to fund a server for German users. | 00:12 |
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| @rizen | do you want an email address associated with it? | 00:12 |
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| @rizen | or do you want to decide that later? | 00:13 |
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| Bernd_ | e-mail? | 00:13 |
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| Bernd_ | The forum? | 00:13 |
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| @rizen | yeah so people can email in to the forum | 00:13 |
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| @rizen | yeah | 00:13 |
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| Bernd_ | Oh, yes! | 00:13 |
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| Bernd_ | E-mail is always good. | 00:13 |
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| Bernd_ | something like krauts@webgui.org | 00:13 |
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| @rizen | ok | 00:13 |
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| @rizen | i'll get it created | 00:13 |
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| Bernd_ | Cool! | 00:13 |
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| Bernd_ | Back to the extended demo... | 00:14 |
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| Bernd_ | The idea is to have some low-budget hosting | 00:14 |
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| Bernd_ | for small private sites. | 00:14 |
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| Bernd_ | Very small sites, I mean. | 00:14 |
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| Bernd_ | Just to attract users., | 00:14 |
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| Bernd_ | However, what is missing is a quota in the wre. | 00:14 |
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| Bernd_ | What do you think, | 00:15 |
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| Bernd_ | would that work for attracting more people? | 00:15 |
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| Bernd_ | Ah, KlausH! | 00:16 |
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| Bernd_ | Already discussing :-) | 00:16 |
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| Bernd_ | JT is about creating our forum!!! | 00:16 |
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| KlausH | Hi Bernd! | 00:16 |
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| KlausH | Great! | 00:16 |
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| @rizen | Bernd webgui has asset quotes | 00:16 |
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| Bernd_ | We still have come up with a description until tomorrow, | 00:16 |
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| @rizen | quotas | 00:16 |
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| @rizen | you can say...this site can only have 400 assets | 00:17 |
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| Bernd_ | I did not know. Where can I specify? In the webgui conf file? | 00:17 |
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| Bernd_ | But more importantly, do you think this could be a model for attracting more people to webgui? | 00:18 |
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| @rizen | webgui config file | 00:18 |
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| @rizen | i haven't read the forum post yet | 00:18 |
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| Bernd_ | Going to have look. | 00:18 |
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| @rizen | your forum is online now...well pending spectre committing it | 00:19 |
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| Bernd_ | Check the thread on the ct article. | 00:19 |
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| Bernd_ | It was about how to generate extra values for their customers. | 00:19 |
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| @Haarg | perlmonkey2, intentional? https://svn.webgui.org/svnweb/plainblack/revision?rev=8296#diff__WebGUI_lib_WebGUI_Workflow_Activity_ArchiveOldThreads.pm | 00:19 |
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| Bernd_ | ct did not want to publish webgui as part of their software collection | 00:19 |
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| Bernd_ | since it is free and does not come with any extra value. | 00:19 |
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| Bernd_ | My suggestion was to give hosting coupons to their reades | 00:20 |
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| Bernd_ | readers for an extended demo | 00:20 |
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| Bernd_ | But I think this would be a great think in general. | 00:20 |
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| Bernd_ | Currently, there is still too little activity on webgui.org. | 00:21 |
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| Bernd_ | We need more users. | 00:21 |
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| Bernd_ | I think students are a good target group. | 00:21 |
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| Bernd_ | They have time contribute. | 00:21 |
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| Bernd_ | But we need to get them play with webgui first. | 00:21 |
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| KlausH | Bernd, will you do the intial post on the German discussion board | 00:22 |
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| Bernd_ | The current demo is good for a first impression. | 00:22 |
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| Bernd_ | KlausH, yes! | 00:22 |
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| Bernd_ | But tomorrow. | 00:22 |
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| Bernd_ | Immediately after breakfast. | 00:22 |
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| Bernd_ | rizen, so what do you think about an extended demo and a subsequent low-budget hosting plan for private users? | 00:23 |
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| @rizen | on phone...in the mean time, can you get me the url to the discussion you're talking about | 00:23 |
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| @rizen | ok, off the phone | 00:26 |
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| Bernd_ | Ok. I found it! It was this one http://www.plainblack.com/etcetera/webgui-article-in-german-linux-magazine?pn=2 | 00:26 |
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| @rizen | where is that thread | 00:26 |
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| @rizen | k | 00:26 |
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| @rizen | reading... | 00:26 |
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| Bernd_ | KlausH, schon eine Idee f?r die Beschreibung der Gruppe? | 00:27 |
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| @rizen | my answer = exactly what tavisto said | 00:28 |
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| Bernd_ | That means, you are going to work on it? | 00:29 |
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| @tavisto | what about tavisto? | 00:30 |
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| @tavisto | why are you bouncing my Colloquy icon? | 00:30 |
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| @tavisto | :_ | 00:30 |
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| @tavisto | :) | 00:30 |
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| Bernd_ | Would it be ok, if Klaus and me took the lead? | 00:32 |
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| Bernd_ | Not that expensive to rent a root server these days. | 00:32 |
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| Bernd_ | And I do not expect users to flood us with requests. | 00:32 |
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| Bernd_ | tavisto, what is a Colloquy icon? | 00:33 |
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| @rizen | tavisto what you said regarding automated hosting and extended demos on the forum | 00:33 |
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| @tavisto | heh, on a Mac the default IRC client is colloquy | 00:33 |
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| @tavisto | gotcha Rizen, I caught up on the convo now | 00:33 |
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| Bernd_ | So, are there any plans to do that? | 00:33 |
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| @rizen | Bernd_: no that doesn't mean we're going to work on it. it means that we can't even consider working on it until the hosting automation system is fully in place | 00:33 |
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| Bernd_ | Or shall we do that as a community. | 00:33 |
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| @rizen | and it won't be in place until *at least* January 2009. | 00:34 |
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| Bernd_ | But hosting automation is being worked on? | 00:34 |
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| @rizen | yes | 00:34 |
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| @rizen | as we speak | 00:34 |
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| Bernd_ | 2009 is coming soon.# | 00:34 |
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| @rizen | i'm spending about 20 hours per week (and sometimes more) | 00:34 |
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| Bernd_ | No need to be impatient. | 00:34 |
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| Bernd_ | Good. In that case, I think we are going to wait. | 00:34 |
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| Bernd_ | Keep on working :-) ! | 00:35 |
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| Bernd_ | I am approaching my home. | 00:35 |
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| Bernd_ | Going to stop here. | 00:35 |
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| Bernd_ | Good night! | 00:35 |
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| @rizen | patspam: it appears that the first German webgui drink was a huge success | 00:37 |
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| @rizen | how's the australian one? | 00:37 |
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| @tavisto | Rizen, you do realize we will exceed 1000 CMS products by the end of 2008 right? If not by the end of this month. | 00:38 |
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| @tavisto | I think this week we've already got around 3-4 new CMS products, and I have one pending where I'm waiting to hear from a vendor | 00:38 |
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| @tavisto | according to the numbers I've seen in past articles, that means we could potentially only be reporting about half the CMS products currently available. | 00:39 |
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| @rizen | i know | 00:39 |
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| @rizen | cmsmatrix.org is exploding all over the place | 00:40 |
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| @tavisto | yeah, our visitors aren't growing inline but the amount of vendors finding us definitely is | 00:40 |
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| @tavisto | we're actually just consistent now after our last growth spurt of 10-15k to around 60k | 00:40 |
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| @rizen | it will come | 00:41 |
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| @rizen | the more data we have the more users we will have | 00:41 |
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| @tavisto | yup, I have no doubt. | 00:41 |
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| @tavisto | I think our phase 2 advertising plan must go into affect.. hot babes in bikini photo galleries | 00:42 |
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| @tavisto | I'm pretty sure no ones ever tried that technique before | 00:42 |
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| @rizen | i'm pretty sure every dating site on the internet uses ads like that | 00:43 |
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| @rizen | the hottest chicks i see on the internet are always the ads pointing to dating sites. =) | 00:43 |
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| @tavisto | yeah, just maybe.. and I even had a typo with affect... should be effect. I suck | 00:44 |
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| @tavisto | that's 100% true. | 00:44 |
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| @tavisto | BUT, I wonder if that's true on the muslim dating site you found. | 00:44 |
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| nuba | haha dating sites use imagemagik & geoip to convince people that the pics they're seeing is from local girls | 00:49 |
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| nuba | they have this 'hot babes pic database' and "burn" your city name in a random pic | 00:50 |
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| nuba | but its funny when they do that and your population's average girls are soo different than US' | 00:51 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | Haarg: oh crap...looks like I somehow edited that file instead of where I pasted teh code to. | 01:00 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | Haarg: I'm rolling it back now | 01:01 |
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| @Haarg | ok | 01:01 |
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| @Haarg | thanks | 01:01 |
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| wgGuest95 | hello there, could someone tell me how to have/use a few fonts in my webgui pages? | 01:01 |
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| @preaction | wgGuest95, most likely you'll have to edit the HTML source or create a stylesheet that has some classes for your fonts | 01:04 |
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| +perlDreamer | Doritos rock | 01:04 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | Haarg: ah, I guess checking out the last good version and then trying to check it in, isn't have you roll back. | 01:05 |
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| wgGuest95 | from admin console and using graphics I upload a few... How can edit the html source or create a stylesheet? | 01:05 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | ah, merge | 01:06 |
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| @Haarg | yeah, svn is kind of a pile | 01:06 |
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| @preaction | wgGuest95, those fonts aren't for in the page, they're for the graphs that WebGUI creates | 01:06 |
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| +perlDreamer | wgGuest95, the graphics console is only for creating graphics through WebGUI like pie charts and graphs | 01:06 |
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| @preaction | there's no good way to push those fonts to the people viewing your web site, which is why most websites just use a few default fonts like Arial, Courier, and Tahoma | 01:07 |
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| wgGuest95 | ok thanks, now only left the question how can have my defaul favorit fonts (Arial, Tahoma etc) inside webgui? | 01:08 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | svn merge -c -6258 urlToModule, right? | 01:08 |
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| @preaction | wgGuest95, you will need to edit your stylesheet (the CSS file) | 01:09 |
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| @preaction | wgGuest95, http://www.plainblack.com/community-wiki/how-to-give-webgui-your-own-style <- here's a good wiki article on how to edit style templates and stylesheets | 01:09 |
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| wgGuest95 | ok thanks I will check it!!! | 01:10 |
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| CIA-6 | WebGUI: perlmonkey2 * r8296 /WebGUI/ (28 files in 11 dirs): The new survey is here. Make sure to wg-reset your test instances to get the new DB schema. | 02:21 |
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| CIA-6 | WebGUI: perlmonkey2 * r8297 /WebGUI/lib/WebGUI/i18n/English/Asset_Survey.pm: i18n is probably important to actually seeing any text. | 02:21 |
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| elnino | I was wondering if there is a way to add some layouts to the "design wizard" in webgui... Is it using templates in webgui? or is some pl files somewhere? | 04:34 |
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| @preaction | it's some pl files somewhere i think | 04:34 |
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| elnino | ok. Thanks preaction | 05:20 |
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| elnino | will the new survey in 7.6 support conditional questions? so if you answer one way, it'll ask you one thing, if it asks you another, it asks you a different one? | 06:21 |
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| @preaction | yes | 06:22 |
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| @preaction | it calls it "branching" | 06:23 |
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| elnino | ok. Thanks preaction. | 07:08 |
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| SDuensin | Everyone must be hard at work today. No chatter! | 18:29 |
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| AMH_henry | for me weekend just started! :D | 18:31 |
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| SDuensin | Congrats. Bum. :-) | 18:31 |
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| SDuensin | If I go and build a bunch of Things and later edit them, does the data already existing inside them survive? | 18:57 |
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| @rizen | survive editing? | 18:57 |
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| @rizen | oh you mean edit the schema of them? | 18:57 |
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| SDuensin | Yea. | 18:57 |
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| @rizen | yup | 18:57 |
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| @rizen | data will survive | 18:58 |
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| @rizen | but the new fields added will be empty | 18:58 |
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| * SDuensin is still gun shy but fascinated at the same time. | 18:58 |
| @rizen | and fields that get deleted will lose their data | 18:58 |
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| SDuensin | That's cool. | 18:58 |
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| @rizen | Isn't thingy cool? | 18:58 |
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| SDuensin | I want to try and use it to build an application for my users to manage their domains. | 18:58 |
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| SDuensin | So far it seems very cool. Except for when it went haywire on me the other night. | 18:59 |
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| @rizen | Our biggest use of it currently is that we have a rolodex of all of our customers, vendors, contractors, employees, etc | 18:59 |
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| @rizen | and notes about them | 18:59 |
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| SDuensin | Sounds similar to what I want. Just the UI. All the actual work will be done by a cron job or workflow or something. | 19:00 |
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| SDuensin | Kinda like how I use WebGUI to manage my CloudCircle subscriptions. Logons are synced by a cron job on another box. | 19:00 |
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| SDuensin | I got into trouble when I started changing fields that had relationships on them. | 19:02 |
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| SDuensin | wb | 19:02 |
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| SDuensin | I got into trouble when I started changing fields that had relationships on them. | 19:02 |
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| +perlDreamer | next version is 7.6.4? | 20:10 |
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| @preaction | 763 i think | 20:11 |
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| @preaction | yeah 7.6.3, 7.6.2 is released | 20:13 |
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| +perlDreamer | cool. I'm fixing a template so I want to put the package in the right place. | 20:22 |
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| SDuensin | Can a Thing be an auto-increment value? | 20:32 |
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| +perlDreamer | no idea, sduensin | 21:15 |
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| SDuensin | I worked around it. It'd still be helpful. | 21:16 |
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| * SDuensin is working on replacing Plesk with Things. | 21:16 |
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| Bernd_ | Hey, is the HelpDesk still broken? | 21:23 |
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| Bernd_ | At least it does not work for me. | 21:23 |
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| Bernd_ | I would like to upload a patch for the UserList asset. | 21:23 |
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| Bernd_ | But I cannot see any of the bugs at the moment. | 21:24 |
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| Bernd_ | perlDreamer, I have the patch for the UserList asset ready. | 21:26 |
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| Bernd_ | But I cannot upload. | 21:27 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | perlDreamer: now what was the issue with the tests? | 21:31 |
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| +perlDreamer | i18n/help.t is using Help/Asset_Survey as a source of data | 21:32 |
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| +perlDreamer | the i18n that it was pointing to went away | 21:32 |
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| +perlDreamer | so Help/Asset_Survey needs to be updated, and have legal i18n links | 21:32 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | okay, I'll see if I can do it after $work :P | 21:33 |
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| +perlDreamer | normally, Help, i18n and templating is part of $dayJob for contracts, but I don't know your current tasking | 21:33 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | perlDreamer: how does the help.t work. I'm not seeing anything including/using anything with survey\c in it. | 21:37 |
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| +perlDreamer | it gets a list of help files, then takes the data structures from each one and makes sure that all labels have valid i18n entries | 21:38 |
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| +perlDreamer | help.t is not the problem | 21:38 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | I didn't remove any help files. I removed Asset_Survey and replaced it. | 21:39 |
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| +perlDreamer | I'll try to find a good example | 21:39 |
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| +perlDreamer | in Asset_Survey | 21:41 |
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| +perlDreamer | the survey response template looks for a title entry named 1089 | 21:41 |
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| +perlDreamer | that entry, 1089, does not exist in the i18n file | 21:41 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | ic | 21:41 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | help.t runs through all the templates and makes sure the i18n calls are there. | 21:42 |
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| +perlDreamer | no | 21:42 |
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| +perlDreamer | help.t runs through all Help files and makes sure the i18n calls are there | 21:42 |
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| +perlDreamer | I'm assuming, (probably badly) that when you replaced the i18n file, that the Help file wasn't updated at the same time. | 21:44 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | oh man....I've got a lot of work to do there. | 21:47 |
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| CIA-6 | WebGUI: perlmonkey2 * r8321 /WebGUI/lib/WebGUI/Asset/Wobject/Survey.pm: Some idiot (me) cut off a really important line of code when cleaning up this file. | 22:00 |
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| SDuensin | hehe | 22:01 |
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| SDuensin | Anybody got a recommendation for integrating an actual database with WebGUI. Like pretty web-based forms and such. Thingy is close, but not quite, what I need. | 22:10 |
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| @preaction | SQLForm maybe? SQLReport perhaps? A custom application? | 22:11 |
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| SDuensin | I'm hoping for pointy-clicky. :-) | 22:11 |
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| +perlDreamer | SDuensin, patches and RFEs for Things gratefully accepted ;) | 22:11 |
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| SDuensin | :-D | 22:12 |
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| +perlDreamer | We know that you know how to sling a text editor around | 22:12 |
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| SDuensin | Who? Me? :-P | 22:12 |
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| +perlDreamer | You can't hide behind that fresh-faced newbie exterior forever, dudely | 22:12 |
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| SDuensin | :-D | 22:12 |
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| SDuensin | I plan on helping you all to rule the world. But I need online *now* so I can afford to live. | 22:12 |
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| +perlDreamer | I see | 22:14 |
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| +perlDreamer | You need the autoincrement thing you mentioned earlier | 22:14 |
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| +perlDreamer | Or is it something else? | 22:14 |
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| SDuensin | Ideally? Build FileMaker into WebGUI. I'll wait. :-) | 22:14 |
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| +perlDreamer | FileMaker? | 22:15 |
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| @preaction | http://www.filemaker.com/ | 22:15 |
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| SDuensin | Yea. Easy pointy-clicky DB builder with web UI options. | 22:15 |
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| @preaction | what is Thingy missing that you need? | 22:16 |
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| SDuensin | Forms to customize the UI. | 22:16 |
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| @preaction | forms? like a drag-drop wizard to make the forms? | 22:17 |
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| @preaction | you can edit the templates already | 22:17 |
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| SDuensin | I know that. But it's not fast. | 22:17 |
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| @preaction | the app you want isn't easy either :p | 22:18 |
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| SDuensin | I know that. :-) | 22:18 |
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| @preaction | but it's probably easier than a generic template wizarding thing | 22:18 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | preaction: you know that SQL Report bug. Try a limit that causes multiple pages from the paginator. Then if you can figure it out, I'll owe you enough beers to see you passed out under the table. | 22:19 |
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| SDuensin | I know. I'm just "into" pointy-clicky lately. I want tools so a couple people can do the work of dozens. | 22:20 |
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| @preaction | right, but a dozen people will need to make those tools ;-) large up-front cost == smaller maintenance costs | 22:20 |
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| @preaction | perlmonkey2, i would look at how Paginator adds its own limit clause. that's most likely where the bug is | 22:20 |
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| SDuensin | Yea, but templates are my problem. Tools are YOUR problem. :-P | 22:21 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | hmm, I used to be able to replicate, but now I can't. | 22:21 |
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| @preaction | it might be prudent to build some testing for it, instead of trying to test from the frontend | 22:21 |
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| @preaction | SDuensin, i could think of some compromises that could be made to make thingy easier to template. perhaps tabbed forms like DataForm? | 22:22 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | preaction: I'd call this corrected. I have 2000 returns in my query, paginating on 5 per page, and it happens subsecond. | 22:22 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | I'll look at SVN at the paginator to see what changed. | 22:22 |
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| @preaction | perlmonkey2, i think there was something about there being a subquery as well, no? | 22:22 |
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| SDuensin | preaction - Not sure. Mainly I need more navigation tools. I'll look at the templates to see what I can do. I mainly need to drill down into data and be able to come back up. I've got a lot of many-to-one relations. | 22:23 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | preaction: oh, yeah, now I remember. It was when it was downloaded | 22:23 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | preaction: looks like the bug I'm looking at isn't the same one I looked at before (been several months). But I think there was a subquery in the previous one. I'll test it with the subquery. But if that works, I'd call this fixed. | 22:25 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | wow, that query should have set my server on fire and instead it was also subsecond. | 22:26 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | queried for everything on an unindexed column, and the subquery did the same. | 22:27 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | preaction: nevermind it isn't corrected "select * from assetData where title in (select title from assetData) limit 100" is an easy test which kills it. And from the last time I looked at this, it woudl require a serious replumbing of the paginator. | 22:31 |
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| @preaction | what would you have to do exactly? what in the paginator is the problem? | 22:44 |
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| SDuensin | perlmonkey2 - Ooo: http://www.wavemaker.com | 22:52 |
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| SDuensin | Er, preaction that is. | 22:52 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | SDuensin: community edition is AGPL | 22:56 |
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| @preaction | how dare you want rich applications without doing any work! | 22:56 |
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| SDuensin | :-P | 22:56 |
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| SDuensin | AGPL works for what I want. Not for integrating with WebGUI for release. | 22:57 |
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| @preaction | i'm saying i can make a WebGUI::Asset::Template::Wizard::Thingy, but I'm also saying to not hold your breath waiting for it | 22:57 |
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| SDuensin | I know. :-) | 22:58 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | preaction: I don't recall about the paginator. But I remember it was something where the solution was inherent in the paginator. | 22:58 |
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| @preaction | perlmonkey2, imho if you do a query like that and expect to download it, you should be prepared for it to take too long | 22:59 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | preaction: it won't take a long time, it will take forever. | 22:59 |
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| @preaction | that query would take forever at the mysql client, that's not something we can control | 23:00 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | There is a rather large param DEFINED in the paginator has to run once for each iteration. | 23:00 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | to find the problem just look for the param that is like 9999999999999999 or some such. | 23:00 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | it isn't at the mysql client. It is what the paginator is doing. | 23:00 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | I remember find that param and realizing it had to be there and there was no simple solution. | 23:01 |
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| @preaction | ok, put as much info as possible into the bug report, we'll still need to fix it, but it's a little bug not a big one | 23:02 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | preaction: okay, I'll dive back into Paginator and document what I find this time :P | 23:02 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | SDuensin: that app shows the incredible power of the CRUD concept. | 23:02 |
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| SDuensin | Yep. | 23:02 |
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| @preaction | perlmonkey2, you don't have to do that, just next time there's a problem like that | 23:03 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | preaction: yeah, it was a long time ago, I think before I was an employee. | 23:03 |
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| @preaction | if you can't fix it, at least write down as much as possible that you found out | 23:03 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | and I was trying to knock out bugs as fast as I could, and just moved along if I could fix it in a timely manner. | 23:03 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | /could/couldn't/ | 23:03 |
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| CIA-6 | WebGUI: colin * r8322 /WebGUI/ (3 files in 3 dirs): fix add variant i18n bug | 23:07 |
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| CIA-6 | WebGUI: colin * r8323 /branch/WebGUI_7.5/ (4 files in 4 dirs): backporting Sku i18n fix | 23:07 |
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| +perlDreamer | preaction, where can I find an example of the AJAX i18n calls? | 23:27 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | jsIdiot: what asset would answer the calls? | 23:41 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | www_i18n? | 23:41 |
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| snapcount | Is it possible to use a template variable from a template in the head block of the template? | 23:51 |
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| @preaction | snapcount, no. in 7.6 it's possible to pass a data structure to the template's prepare() method, which allows template vars in there, but currently assets only use it for Metadata | 00:51 |
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| snapcount | ahh | 01:16 |
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| snapcount | ok ty | 01:16 |
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| nuba | tavisto: pong | 02:38 |
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| nuba | sup? | 02:38 |
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| @tavisto | hey nuba, I was curious if this site (in .br) is a legit CMS vendor | 02:38 |
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| @tavisto | http://www.visionnaire.com.br | 02:44 |
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| nuba | [22:08] <@tavisto> Ihttp://www.visionnaire.com.br | 03:00 |
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| nuba | oops | 03:00 |
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| nuba | [22:08] <@tavisto> Ihttp://www.visionnaire.com.br | 03:00 |
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| @tavisto | is that a legit vendor? | 03:00 |
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| nuba | sucks to use other people`s terminal with configs all messed up | 03:01 |
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| nuba | messed up = different than mine`s :D | 03:01 |
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| nuba | let me check | 03:01 |
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| nuba | never heard of them before | 03:01 |
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| @tavisto | I used google translate but the site doesn't really go into much detail about CMS | 03:01 |
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| nuba | http://www.visionnaire.com.br/produtos_webp.html | 03:04 |
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| nuba | thats their CMS product | 03:04 |
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| nuba | its called Visionnaire webpublication | 03:05 |
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| nuba | it seems pretty much legit | 03:06 |
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| nuba | i mean just legit as websites go | 03:07 |
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| @tavisto | ok so the product is legigt | 03:07 |
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| nuba | they sport a list of know companies as clients | 03:07 |
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| @tavisto | legit. That's what I wanted to make sure since I can't read the context of the site where it shows the CMS info | 03:07 |
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| nuba | known* | 03:07 |
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| nuba | they also claim to be partially financed by a couple of big banks | 03:08 |
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| nuba | it all looks convincing | 03:08 |
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| nuba | not overproduced, they could have done better | 03:08 |
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| nuba | its average looking | 03:08 |
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| nuba | and theres a couple of `success stories` on http://www.visionnaire.com.br/downloads/cases/case_fiep_webp.pdf and http://www.visionnaire.com.br/downloads/cases/case_usf_webp.pdf | 03:09 |
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| nuba | thats it | 03:09 |
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| @tavisto | alright, great thanks Nuba. I can now add them as a CMS on the cmsmatrix | 03:10 |
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| @tavisto | that will put us at 980 CMS products listed | 03:10 |
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| nuba | youre welcome | 03:10 |
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| nuba | cool, every notch counts | 03:11 |
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| +crythias1 | Can I just say, "Thank You" for WebGUI? | 20:07 |
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| +crythias1 | I'm pretty much amazed at it (finally?) doing the stuff that *makes sense* ... | 20:08 |
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| +perlDreamer | preaction: need a 2nd opinion. Art thou available? | 21:38 |
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| Bernd_ | preaction, I think I am done with implementing a fallback mechanism for translations allowing local flavors. | 22:26 |
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| Bernd_ | I have modified the get function in WebGUI::International | 22:27 |
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| Bernd_ | so far. | 22:27 |
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| Bernd_ | Seems to work. | 22:27 |
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| Bernd_ | Is there anything else I need to consider? | 22:27 |
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| Bernd_ | Maybe I should explain a bit more. | 22:27 |
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| Bernd_ | You can set a fallback language in the language properties now that is preferred over English. | 22:28 |
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| Bernd_ | If an id is missing, the fallback language is checked first. | 22:28 |
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| Bernd_ | Only if the id is missing there as well, English is used as the last option. | 22:28 |
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| Bernd_ | Are there any other parts in WebGUI that may be affected? | 22:29 |
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| Bernd_ | I see. It's weekend :-) | 22:31 |
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| Bernd_ | Going to bug you again on Monday. | 22:31 |
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| patspam | looks like the upgrade to YUI 2.6 broke Thingy | 02:29 |
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| patspam | in the latest beta | 02:30 |
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| +Radix-wrk | That sounds so wrong if you say it out loud.. "YUI broke my thingy!" | 03:59 |
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| SDuensin | Greetings. | 15:59 |
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| rjacobsen | is this working? | 18:52 |
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| SDuensin | nope | 18:52 |
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| rjacobsen | kk | 18:52 |
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| rjacobsen | i have a (hopefully) real simple question | 18:52 |
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| rjacobsen | i am working inside the template of webgui - and want to check to see if the user logged in is Admin.... so i typed <tmpl_if user.isAdmin> but it is not working | 18:53 |
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| rjacobsen | what is the correct variable for the user to show it is admin? | 18:53 |
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| rjacobsen | the only ones i know are user.isModerator and user.isVisitor | 18:54 |
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| * SDuensin and templates are not a great mix. | 18:55 |
| +perlDreamer | I thought SDuensin went great with everything | 18:56 |
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| +perlDreamer | kind of like beer | 18:56 |
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| SDuensin | He is, but not when he's sick. | 18:56 |
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| SDuensin | I'm lucky to be able to type. | 18:57 |
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| rjacobsen | is there a guide somewhere to all the user variables available? | 18:57 |
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| rjacobsen | they used to be in the help of webgui, but i dont see them there anymore | 18:58 |
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| SDuensin | Yea, they're all on the wiki. | 18:58 |
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| SDuensin | But they change depending on what the template is. | 18:59 |
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| SDuensin | perlDreamer - I plan on ruling the world with WebGUI and my brain. As soon as my brain works again. | 18:59 |
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| rjacobsen | i just want something like <tmpl_if user.isAdmin> to check to see if the user logged in is Admin or not | 18:59 |
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| @rizen | they're all in the help | 19:00 |
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| @rizen | all template variables for all templates are in the help | 19:01 |
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| rjacobsen | i looked | 19:01 |
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| @rizen | if it's not in the help, then the variable doesn't exist | 19:01 |
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| SDuensin | Wow. I said the same thing as rizen for once. :-P | 19:01 |
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| rjacobsen | can you pls just tell me what user. i would use to see if the person logged in is admin? because I trully cannot find it (or i wouldnt be here) | 19:02 |
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| rjacobsen | :) | 19:02 |
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| rjacobsen | and i have been the past 2 hours looking through the help menu | 19:02 |
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| SDuensin | What kind of template is it? | 19:03 |
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| rjacobsen | admin toggle | 19:03 |
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| @rizen | there is no variable to tell if the current user is an admin | 19:04 |
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| rjacobsen | i dont wanna show it if the person is not admin | 19:04 |
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| @rizen | you need to use GroupText macro | 19:04 |
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| rjacobsen | ok lemme look that up | 19:04 |
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| rjacobsen | i see group add and group delete but no grouptext | 19:05 |
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| rjacobsen | ahh i see it | 19:05 |
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| @rizen | http://www.webgui.org/community-wiki/group-text-macro | 19:05 |
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| rjacobsen | but how can i use a macro in a templ_if?? | 19:05 |
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| @rizen | you can't | 19:05 |
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| @rizen | you don't need to | 19:06 |
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| @rizen | ^GroupText(3,display this thing here); | 19:06 |
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| rjacobsen | ahhh | 19:06 |
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| rjacobsen | so group 3 would see the text | 19:06 |
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| @rizen | yes | 19:06 |
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| @rizen | except don't use 3 use the name of the group | 19:06 |
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| @rizen | like Admins | 19:06 |
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| rjacobsen | but can i put a ^asset url inside the "display this thing here"? | 19:06 |
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| @rizen | yup | 19:07 |
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| rjacobsen | very nice | 19:07 |
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| rjacobsen | very very nice | 19:07 |
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| rjacobsen | thank you so much | 19:07 |
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| SDuensin | This is somewhat off-topic, but... What's the best MySQL tool you've found? I want something I can diagram with and manage FKs and such. | 19:09 |
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| @rizen | the only one I've ever used for mysql is Datanamic DeZine for Databases | 19:18 |
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| +perlDreamer | Agreed, SDuensin. Functional brain is required for world domination. | 19:19 |
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| SDuensin | rizen - Is it any good? | 19:20 |
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| @rizen | i don't like graphical tools like that, so i'm a bad one to ask | 19:21 |
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| @rizen | but for what it does, i thought it was ok | 19:21 |
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| SDuensin | I have the ever-creatively-named "SQLEditor" installed now. Undecided. | 19:22 |
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| SDuensin | Hmm. Navicat looks nice. | 19:31 |
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| rjacobsen | rizen thanks man - that was exactly what i needed | 19:50 |
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| @rizen | you're welcome - pay me back by helping someone in IRC or on the forums when they have a question | 19:50 |
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| rjacobsen | i do have one more question .... is there any way to keep "Show admin console" from showing up when editing a page? | 19:50 |
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| SDuensin | Take it out of the template. | 19:51 |
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| rjacobsen | there is a page for "edit page layout"?? | 19:52 |
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| rjacobsen | i didnt know that | 19:52 |
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| CIA-6 | WebGUI: translation * r8329 /translations/Danish/Danish/ (13 files): Update from translation server | 19:52 |
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| @rizen | it's the admin console template | 19:52 |
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| @rizen | and you better not do what SD just said | 19:52 |
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| @rizen | or you'll likely break your site | 19:52 |
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| @rizen | so the answer is "no" | 19:52 |
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| SDuensin | SD had more things to go with his statement. | 19:52 |
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| rjacobsen | lol | 19:52 |
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| SDuensin | Like create an "admin" URL that has the macro in it. :-P | 19:53 |
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| rjacobsen | so i can create my own edit page template? | 19:53 |
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| rjacobsen | lemme explain what im tryin to do and maybe that would be easier - when someone clicks edit (and they are not admin) - i do not want them to be able to do anything else but edit the text on that page and click save or cancel - is that possible? | 19:55 |
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| nuba | i suppose UI levels are what youore after | 19:56 |
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| rjacobsen | ya maybe - but it still doesnt turn everything off | 19:57 |
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| nuba | users with different UI levels see different forms while editing | 19:57 |
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| nuba | you could look into fine-tuning it accordingly to your needs | 19:57 |
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| rjacobsen | ya im a noob when it comes to groups - not sure what to put in the fields to make stuff not show and stuff | 20:00 |
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| rjacobsen | like i went in to create a new group and im not sure what to change to make the new group unique and to decide what will and will not show for that group | 20:02 |
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| knowmad | Haarg: can you talk for a minute about my support ticket? i think we can resolve it more quickly via irc | 20:08 |
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| mediak | if anyone knows, it would be cool.... how can i edit what a group can and cannot do.... i do not see that anywhere :( | 20:11 |
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| knowmad | that would be a nice feature but i don't think there's a way to do it right now | 20:12 |
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| knowmad | you could probably write an sql report to generate the info | 20:12 |
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| mediak | ok what uimode would not be able to see "Show admin console"? | 20:13 |
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| knowmad | there is a Permissions tab in admin console under Settings | 20:13 |
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| mediak | AHHHHHHHHH | 20:14 |
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| knowmad | that's not fully documented | 20:14 |
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| mediak | thanx! | 20:14 |
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| mediak | thats what i was lookin for | 20:14 |
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| knowmad | without editing the admin templates, i think that any user with turn admin on will get the ability to see admin console | 20:15 |
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| knowmad | oh, good; i thought you were talking about being able to view asset permissions assigned to a group | 20:15 |
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| mediak | crap | 20:15 |
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| mediak | they can still see "show admin console" | 20:16 |
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| mediak | have to find a uimode that cant see it | 20:16 |
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| knowmad | what are you trying to accomplish? | 20:18 |
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| mediak | trying to make it to where the user can edit the text on a page in webgui, save or cancel the changes, but nothing else | 20:19 |
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| mediak | i can get rid of everything EXCEPT "Show admin console"......... | 20:23 |
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| mediak | cant figure out how to get rid of it - or make my own page edit template | 20:24 |
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| mediak | ok ....ill just use ad managers | 20:27 |
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| mediak | seems they have the least abilities | 20:28 |
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| knowmad | mediak: sorry, got distracted | 20:35 |
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| knowmad | where do you see "Show admin console"? in the admin toolbar? | 20:35 |
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| mediak | when they click "Edit" - it opens the edit page layout window and on the right side it says "Show admin console", and I cannot find a way to get rid of it | 20:36 |
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| +perlDreamer | mediak, there's no way to do what you're asking. It's not a templatable function. | 20:36 |
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| +perlDreamer | If they can Turn On Admin (to get to editing controls) they will be able to see the Show Admin Console link | 20:37 |
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| +perlDreamer | and I take that back | 20:37 |
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| +perlDreamer | it is templatable | 20:37 |
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| mediak | i understand that - but is there a ui level that doesnt show it? | 20:37 |
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| +perlDreamer | no | 20:37 |
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| +perlDreamer | see WebGUI/AdminConsole.pm for the code that generates the editing interface that you're concerned about | 20:37 |
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| mediak | kk | 20:38 |
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| knowmad | thanks for the help pd | 20:39 |
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| +perlDreamer | mediak, a good option would be to put your restricted users in a special group | 20:39 |
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| +perlDreamer | Call it No Console | 20:39 |
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| mediak | i have made a group but dont know how to set it not to show the console | 20:40 |
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| +perlDreamer | Then, edit the default Admin Console template and use the GroupText macro to isolate that link, if that's possible | 20:40 |
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| mediak | ok i see how that can work.... but how would i make the edit page open with the admin console template that i create rather than the default? | 20:44 |
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| mediak | NEVERMIND LOL | 20:45 |
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| mediak | just figured it out | 20:45 |
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| mediak | i will use the grouptext macro to only show toggleAdminConsole() is group is Admins | 20:45 |
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| mediak | problem solved | 20:46 |
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| mediak | woot! | 20:48 |
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| mediak | that worked | 20:48 |
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| mediak | thanx perlDreamer for the idea | 20:48 |
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| @Haarg | knowmad: i'm here now | 20:52 |
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| knowmad | hey haarg | 20:53 |
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| knowmad | thanks for the reply; i've found the problem which was due to a bad sitename configuration | 20:53 |
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| knowmad | am posting a reply to the ticket | 20:54 |
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| @Haarg | ok, so it was a spectre issue? | 20:54 |
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| knowmad | well, insomuch as i had misconfigured my conf file due to some complexities involved in how we have apache configured | 20:54 |
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| knowmad | there's no bug | 20:55 |
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| knowmad | if that's what you were asking | 20:55 |
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| knowmad | however, there is a patch i'm going to submit to provide better error reporting from spectre | 20:55 |
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| @Haarg | that would be nice. i've been meaning to look at getting better error reports out of spectre | 20:55 |
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| @Haarg | the current mess of html that gets spit out is rather useless | 20:56 |
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| knowmad | well, it looks like you've already fixed this one in wG 7.5; i was running under 7.4.40 which didn't output the error results from an eval block | 20:58 |
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| knowmad | btw, i also looked up sitename in the Admin Guide and have the answer to my question in the follow-up to my ticket; unless you have more to add, you can close out that ticket | 20:59 |
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| knowmad | i concur with you about the "mess of html" being unhelpful in debugging spectre issues | 20:59 |
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| knowmad | that's a bigger problem than i have the tuits for today | 20:59 |
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| @Haarg | the thing that's most annoying | 21:00 |
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| @Haarg | is that what gets output in the log is a 500 error, even though that isn't what happened | 21:01 |
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| @Haarg | that 500 error and the html blob are generated by the http client when it can't reach the server | 21:01 |
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| CIA-6 | WebGUI: graham * r8330 /tools/ (wgd wg-build wg-reset): | 21:05 |
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| CIA-6 | WebGUI: new reset etc script, replacing wg-reset and wg-build | 21:05 |
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| CIA-6 | WebGUI: additional commands, more consistant arguments, and pluggable. | 21:05 |
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| CIA-6 | WebGUI: new wgd script is autogenerated based on a set of .pm files. | 21:05 |
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| bunniefoofoo | I would like to flush out all the 1000s of workflows that are piled up and won't finish, is it dangerous to delete the records in WorkflowInstance and WorkflowInstanceScratch? | 21:05 |
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| @Haarg | what kind of workflows are they | 21:06 |
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| @Haarg | ? | 21:06 |
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| bunniefoofoo | 90% are labeld "get syndicated content" | 21:08 |
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| bunniefoofoo | 5% are labeld (none) | 21:08 |
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| bunniefoofoo | 2% are "Sync User Profiels with LDAP" | 21:08 |
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| bunniefoofoo | priority is all 20/20 | 21:08 |
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| bunniefoofoo | I have 50 sites hosted, each has ~100-500 waiting workflows | 21:09 |
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| bunniefoofoo | pasting log extract now | 21:10 |
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| @Haarg | the get syndicated content should be ok to delete, but you still should track down what is causing the problem | 21:10 |
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| bunniefoofoo | all of them say "malformed text data" etc in webgui.log | 21:11 |
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| bunniefoofoo | http://webgui.pastebin.com/m72426015 | 21:11 |
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| @Haarg | what version are you running? | 21:12 |
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| bunniefoofoo | 7.4.40 | 21:12 |
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| bunniefoofoo | pasted line of code with the problem: http://webgui.pastebin.com/m72f53e85 | 21:22 |
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| bunniefoofoo | looking at the WorkflowInstance table, the "parameters" fields all look like this "{ "parameters" : {} }" | 21:24 |
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| bunniefoofoo | which is to say there are no parameters; so JSON::decode_json is throwing up on it? (line 150 Instance.pm) in above paste | 21:25 |
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| bunniefoofoo | maybe I need to update JSON.pm? | 21:25 |
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| @Haarg | the parameters it is trying to decode is the database field | 21:25 |
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| @Haarg | so that entire string | 21:26 |
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| @Haarg | which should decode fine | 21:26 |
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| @Haarg | seems like it is not retrieving it from the db properly | 21:26 |
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| @Haarg | i'm not certain | 21:26 |
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| bunniefoofoo | well, the field in the db does have newlines in it... | 21:26 |
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| bunniefoofoo | maybe a text encoding problem? | 21:27 |
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| @Haarg | newlines shouldn't be a problem | 21:27 |
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| @Haarg | malformed text data., at character offset 0 ["(end of string)"] | 21:27 |
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| @Haarg | means it is trying to decode an empty string | 21:28 |
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| bunniefoofoo | is {} legal? shouldn't there be something in there? | 21:28 |
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| +perlDreamer | {} is legal | 21:28 |
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| +perlDreamer | it's an empty JSON hash | 21:28 |
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| bunniefoofoo | ok | 21:28 |
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| bunniefoofoo | weird, i will print out the field before parsing to see whats in there | 21:29 |
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| @Haarg | perlDreamer, do you use anything like jt's resetdev or my wg-reset script? | 21:30 |
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| +perlDreamer | I use a slightly customized resetdev | 21:30 |
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| +perlDreamer | Should I be excited about your recent commit? :) | 21:30 |
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| @Haarg | ok, i just stuck a new version of my thing into svn/tools | 21:30 |
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| @Haarg | you might be interested | 21:31 |
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| +perlDreamer | sweet! I'll check it out | 21:31 |
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| @Haarg | it has some additional commands | 21:31 |
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| @Haarg | and has help now | 21:31 |
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| @Haarg | so it's not a complete mystery how it works | 21:31 |
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| bunniefoofoo | ok I found out more about my WorkflowInstance problem | 22:09 |
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| bunniefoofoo | when spectre starts, it looks like a whole bunch of workfowinstance objects are new'd and passed the correct field from workflowinstance thable, that is an empty parameters hash | 22:10 |
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| bunniefoofoo | but when the workflows go to run, a new workflow instance is created with empty parameters hash | 22:10 |
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| bunniefoofoo | so I need to look closer at how spectre works I guess | 22:11 |
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| bunniefoofoo | how can I print a backtrace in perl? | 22:12 |
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| Bernd_ | bopbop, do you have a minute to help me harmonize settings for the German forum? | 22:16 |
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| @bopbop | sure | 22:16 |
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| BartJol | full room again | 22:16 |
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| Bernd_ | I do not know what to set for karma and archival | 22:16 |
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| Bernd_ | What is set for the other fora? | 22:16 |
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| Bernd_ | I do not have permission to view... | 22:16 |
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| @bopbop | hang on- I'll head out there and take a look | 22:16 |
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| Bernd_ | Thanks! | 22:16 |
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| @bopbop | I'll go ahead and edit the German forum to match, instead of telling you out here | 22:17 |
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| Bernd_ | Even better. Thanks again! | 22:18 |
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| @bopbop | Bernd_: you should be set now | 22:18 |
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| @bopbop | take a look and let me know if you have any other questions | 22:18 |
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| Bernd_ | Ok, checking... | 22:19 |
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| bunniefoofoo | refresher on my workflow problem: http://webgui.pastebin.com/m72f53e85 | 22:35 |
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| bunniefoofoo | the problem appears to be that these workflow instances in the database have NULL parameters | 22:35 |
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| bunniefoofoo | the NULL is interpreted as an empty string in the resulting database query, which is passed to JSON::decode_json() which is illegal | 22:36 |
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| bunniefoofoo | the question remains how I should go about fixing this | 22:36 |
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| bunniefoofoo | I could simply assign empty parameters to all the NULLs in the WorkflowInstance table | 22:37 |
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| @Haarg | for the syndicated content workflows you should just be able to delete them | 22:38 |
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| bunniefoofoo | update WorkflowInstance set parameters='{"parameters": {}}' where parameters is NULL; | 22:44 |
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| bunniefoofoo | seems to fix the problem | 22:44 |
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| bunniefoofoo | at least no more error output, don't know if bogus workflows will continue to generate | 22:44 |
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| bunniefoofoo | is there a script written to run a query on all webgui sites? | 23:08 |
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| @Haarg | nothing i know of off hand | 23:08 |
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| BartJol | bunniefoofoo: what are you looking for? | 23:10 |
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| bunniefoofoo | I have an update query which fixes a bug and I need to run it on ~50 databases | 23:10 |
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| BartJol | ai | 23:10 |
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| BartJol | I'm not an mysql wizard, but can't you do that by logging in in mysql as the admin user? | 23:13 |
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| +perlDreamer | Sounds kind of like a WebGUI upgrade script | 23:16 |
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| +perlDreamer | it would iterate over all config files, then run the query on each one... | 23:16 |
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| Bernd_ | Yeah, upgrade script! | 23:16 |
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| +perlDreamer | there's an upgrade script skeleton in /data/WebGUI/docs/upgrades | 23:16 |
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| Bernd_ | There is a template. | 23:16 |
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| BartJol | that qould be the other option.... | 23:16 |
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| Bernd_ | Exactly that one. | 23:16 |
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| bunniefoofoo | I don't know, I'm not that familiar with mysql either, i guess I should hack the upgrade script... | 23:16 |
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| +perlDreamer | bunniefoofoo, do you know perl? | 23:17 |
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| BartJol | s/q/w | 23:17 |
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| bunniefoofoo | yes | 23:17 |
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| +perlDreamer | then you'll be fine | 23:17 |
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| @Haarg | upgrade scripts themselves don't run on multiple databases though | 23:17 |
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| +perlDreamer | no, they run on multiple config files | 23:17 |
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| @Haarg | no | 23:18 |
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| @Haarg | upgrade.pl does that | 23:18 |
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| +perlDreamer | hm | 23:18 |
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| @Haarg | the upgrade script itself only operates on a single config | 23:18 |
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| @Haarg | is there a way to get xargs to run a command once per parameter? | 23:19 |
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| +perlDreamer | sure | 23:19 |
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| +perlDreamer | ls something | xargs | 23:19 |
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| bunniefoofoo | I am looking at "wre/webguiupdate" which runs on multiple configs | 23:19 |
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| @Haarg | xargs with no params will add all the params for a single run though | 23:20 |
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| @Haarg | bunniefoofoo, you may have better luck with WebGUI/sbin/search.pl | 23:20 |
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| @Haarg | it optionally operates across multiple sites | 23:20 |
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| bunniefoofoo | offtopic, does anyone know when the arrow keys stopped working in vi, this is driving me nuts | 23:29 |
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| BartJol | maybe use vim instead | 23:29 |
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| bunniefoofoo | thanks, I always assumed vim was the default, I guess not | 23:31 |
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| BartJol | not bnecessarily | 23:31 |
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| bunniefoofoo | ubuntu defaults to vim-tiny which has the problem I guess | 23:32 |
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| @Haarg | vi will sometimes run vim instead, but in that case vim will use vi emulation mode or such | 23:32 |
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| Bernd_ | perlDreamer, can you tell were default profile fields are defined that are created whenever a new site is created? | 23:33 |
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| Bernd_ | tell me | 23:33 |
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| Bernd_ | I am asking, because the showOnline field is still not created when I a create a new site. | 23:33 |
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| Bernd_ | That is at least true for my local installation. | 23:33 |
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| Bernd_ | Did I miss some upgrade script here? | 23:33 |
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| +perlDreamer | Bernd_: for a brand new site, it would be create.sql | 23:35 |
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| +perlDreamer | but it's only in the 7.6 branch | 23:35 |
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| Bernd_ | one moment | 23:36 |
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| Bernd_ | brushing my teeth :-) | 23:36 |
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| +perlDreamer | np ;) | 23:36 |
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| +perlDreamer | I'll have some lunch | 23:36 |
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| BartJol | oh, is it personal grooming time, maybe I should hone my razor | 23:36 |
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| +perlDreamer | you hippy! | 23:37 |
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| BartJol | there's an IRC channel for that too! | 23:37 |
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| +perlDreamer | did you see that I made some i18n commits for you to fix? | 23:37 |
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| BartJol | #srp | 23:37 |
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| BartJol | well, I fixed 7.6.2 | 23:37 |
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| BartJol | but haven't looked further yet | 23:37 |
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| BartJol | can't do anthing between versions as far as I know | 23:38 |
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| Bernd_ | I am back again. | 23:38 |
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| Bernd_ | Do I have to add the field to create.sql, too? | 23:39 |
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| Bernd_ | perlDreamer, having lunch? | 23:39 |
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| Bernd_ | Can you type with one hand? | 23:40 |
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| Bernd_ | Hey, I want to go to bed! | 23:40 |
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| Bernd_ | Hm. | 23:40 |
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| Bernd_ | Going to bug you tomorrow. | 23:40 |
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| Bernd_ | Good night! | 23:40 |
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| +perlDreamer | Bernd_: Just in case you check the IRC logs | 23:56 |
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| +perlDreamer | The user profile fixes will be included in 7.6.3 | 23:57 |
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| +perlDreamer | I missed the 7.6.2 release deadline | 23:57 |
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| +perlDreamer | if you grab a copy from SVN, it will be in there | 23:58 |
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| +perlDreamer | and I hand tested that the user profile field is added to make sure that it worked correctly | 23:58 |
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| BartJol | Bernd is gone perlDreamer | 00:00 |
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| +perlDreamer | Das wich ich schoen | 00:00 |
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| @Haarg | "$self->log('wtf am I faling for');" heh | 00:00 |
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| +perlDreamer | Haarg, did the i18n english echo conversation go anywhere? | 00:01 |
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| BartJol | typing? | 00:01 |
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| bunniefoofoo | why would a completed workflow return to the runnable state?, and then run again immediately | 00:11 |
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| CIA-6 | WebGUI: perlmonkey2 * r8331 /branch/WebGUI_7.5/ (5 files in 4 dirs): Removed all instances of srand. This is called implicitily by rand and be dangerous if called mulitple times by the same process. | 00:11 |
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| CIA-6 | WebGUI: perlmonkey2 * r8332 /WebGUI/ (6 files in 5 dirs): Removed all instances of srand. This is called implicitily by rand and be dangerous if called mulitple times by the same process. | 00:11 |
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| bunniefoofoo | http://webgui.pastebin.com/m6d6300de | 00:12 |
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| BartJol | bunniefoofoo: what do you mean exactly, it only completes activities (parts of workflows) | 00:17 |
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| +perlDreamer | perlmonkey2: You are a programmer of incredible wisdom and insight. | 00:17 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | perlDreamer: ah, or someone who can read | 00:17 |
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| topsub | I am trying to write this activity but its winning.. here is my error http://webgui.pastebin.com/m36c9e645 here is my activity. http://webgui.pastebin.com/m6ed16394 | 00:19 |
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| topsub | I also can't seem to get my test to pass it keeps saying "Can't locate object method "create" via package "WebGUI::Workflow::Activity::DeleteBroadcast" at DeleteBroadcast.t line 32." but i am using base | 00:19 |
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| topsub | So am kinda confused as to what ia m doing wrong or what i am missing | 00:20 |
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| +perlDreamer | perl -wc myActivity? | 00:20 |
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| topsub | DeleteBroadcast.pm syntax OK | 00:21 |
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| +perlDreamer | can you paste the test, too? | 00:22 |
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| topsub | here is my stripped version with just trying to setup the activity.. http://webgui.pastebin.com/m7129a34 | 00:23 |
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| +perlDreamer | Do you see the problem in the test, or when spectre runs, too? | 00:23 |
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| topsub | when i run the test i get this.. Can't locate object method "create" via package "WebGUI::Workflow::Activity::DeleteBroadcast" at DeleteBroadcast.t line 32. | 00:24 |
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| topsub | that other pastebin error was from running it threw the website | 00:24 |
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| topsub | when i run the test i dont' see anyoutput into webgui.log | 00:24 |
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| +perlDreamer | I don't know why it isn't inheriting, but you can't call create without a workflow Id | 00:25 |
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| +perlDreamer | or an activity Id | 00:25 |
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| +perlDreamer | no, activity Id is fine without | 00:26 |
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| topsub | hmm i am taking this code from stuff william did | 00:26 |
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| topsub | not saying he is right | 00:26 |
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| topsub | but seems we have it in bunch of our activity test that were created before | 00:26 |
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| +perlDreamer | I wrote an activity test. t/Workflow/Activity/NotifyAboutLowStock.pm | 00:26 |
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| +perlDreamer | there are lots of pitfalls in activities | 00:26 |
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| topsub | so your saying i need an workflowID | 00:27 |
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| +perlDreamer | well, yes and no | 00:27 |
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| topsub | seems my problem now is its just not inheriting | 00:27 |
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| +perlDreamer | If it could find create, you'd need a Workflow id | 00:27 |
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| +perlDreamer | does DeleteBroadcast live in /data/WebGUI/lib or elsewhere? | 00:27 |
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| topsub | lives in /data/site/nci/lib... | 00:28 |
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| topsub | a custom directory | 00:28 |
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| +perlDreamer | just for kicks, try moving it next to the others | 00:28 |
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| topsub | like in /data/WebGUI/t/WorkflowActivity? | 00:29 |
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| +perlDreamer | like /data/WebGUI/lib/WebGUI/Workflow/Activity | 00:29 |
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| topsub | oh wait not my test | 00:29 |
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| topsub | the workflow | 00:29 |
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| +perlDreamer | right | 00:30 |
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| @Haarg | perlDreamer, i18n english echo conversation? | 00:30 |
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| +perlDreamer | Haarg, the idea that for english, i18n would simply always echo what it was sent | 00:30 |
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| @Haarg | ah | 00:30 |
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| +perlDreamer | with 4 exceptions, the i18n test will locate and tabulate all usage of i18n for you | 00:31 |
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| @Haarg | well, there's the unsolved problem of what to do for namespaces and the translation server | 00:31 |
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| @Haarg | the i18n test could be a foundation for that, but it doesn't fully work yet | 00:31 |
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| +perlDreamer | it probably won't ever fully work. But it only fails on 4 i18n calls in all of WebGUI | 00:32 |
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| +perlDreamer | Help lookups, one place in Auth/LDAP and two others that I'm forgetting about, but are documented inside the test | 00:32 |
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| topsub | ah.. i think my problem was somehow i had a copy of it in the webgui/lib/webgui... directory so it was confused | 00:32 |
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| topsub | now i get the error "Can't use string ("OZcU-NGUoDbSMnEuFHiIPQ") as an ARRAY ref while "strict refs" in use at /data/WebGUI/lib/WebGUI/SQL/ResultSet.pm line 135." Does this go back to what you were saying before pd? | 00:32 |
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| +perlDreamer | the translation server should be a no-op, since we're only changing the keys, not the values | 00:32 |
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| @Haarg | yeah, the translation server itself isn't the problem | 00:33 |
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| +perlDreamer | topsub, probably :) | 00:33 |
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| @Haarg | it's getting the list of all keys in the future | 00:33 |
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| SDuensin | Hey, is there an easy way to have the WRE send non-WebGUI requests to another Apache? Currently, I'm making a conf for each non-WebGUI site and it's a pain. | 00:33 |
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| @Haarg | i need to learn more about PPI | 00:33 |
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| @Haarg | with the wre by default, all non-webgui content is handled by the mod_proxy server | 00:34 |
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| SDuensin | Haarg - Yea, but where does it go? :-) Basically I want www.notwebgui.com to be sent to another Apache for handling. | 00:35 |
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| @Haarg | you can create a different vhost for that domain | 00:35 |
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| @Haarg | just like are in the .modproxy files | 00:35 |
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| @Haarg | then you could either have mod_proxy serve the files directly | 00:35 |
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| @Haarg | or have a redirect with a proxy to direct it to a different web server | 00:36 |
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| @Haarg | rather, have a rewrite | 00:36 |
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| +perlDreamer | Haarg, anytime i18n keys are generated programmatically, like in Auth/LDAP.pm, you will never be able to scan for them. | 00:36 |
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| @Haarg | yeah | 00:36 |
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| +perlDreamer | So I was thinking a list of exclusions that have to be done manually | 00:36 |
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| +perlDreamer | with a STRONG discouragement from doing things that way | 00:36 |
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| +perlDreamer | like losing your SVN commit access | 00:37 |
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| SDuensin | Haarg - That's what I have now. I was hoping for a "default" if a non-WebGUI site was encountered. | 00:37 |
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| @Haarg | the other case that isn't currently handled is scoping | 00:37 |
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| +perlDreamer | I know. I can't make Perl::Critic reentrant without violating the module contract | 00:37 |
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| +perlDreamer | but there are only a few scoping errors, and they can be written out | 00:38 |
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| @Haarg | well | 00:38 |
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| @Haarg | i don't have a good answer for the test | 00:38 |
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| @Haarg | but we could do whatever we want for a script using ppi | 00:38 |
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| @Haarg | it will load the first vhost if you don't have one specified with a matching servername or serveralias | 00:38 |
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| +perlDreamer | Writing the PPI by hand would not be very fun. That's why I chose Perl::Critic. | 00:39 |
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| +perlDreamer | maybe you could ask Chris Dolan's opinion at your next monger meeting | 00:39 |
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| @Haarg | well, perl::critic makes sense for a test | 00:39 |
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| @Haarg | i may | 00:39 |
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| @Haarg | so you can create a file like 000-default.modproxy | 00:39 |
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| bunniefoofoo | i am still wondering if I can kill all workflows with no ill side-effects | 00:39 |
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| @Haarg | and it will be loaded first | 00:39 |
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| bunniefoofoo | i have 11900 workflows and they aren't going anywhere | 00:39 |
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| @Haarg | bunniefoofoo, you can for the syndicated content ones | 00:39 |
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| @Haarg | and probably the ldap ones as well | 00:40 |
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| @Haarg | without knowing what the remaining ones are i couldn't say | 00:40 |
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| SDuensin | Haarg - But it only does that if it doesn't find a better match? | 00:40 |
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| @Haarg | yes | 00:40 |
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| SDuensin | Ok, coolness. :-) Thanks! | 00:40 |
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| @Haarg | so just have your default vhost in that initial file | 00:41 |
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| CIA-6 | WebGUI: yung * r8333 /branch/WebGUI_Matrix2/lib/WebGUI/Asset/Wobject/Matrix.pm: Added Compare box to Matrix v2 | 00:48 |
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| bunniefoofoo | haarg, assuming the sites are not live, can I kill the workflows? | 00:53 |
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| @Haarg | for the syndicated content ones, yes | 00:53 |
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| bunniefoofoo | well I did that and still 6600 workflows left | 00:55 |
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| bunniefoofoo | another option would be to accelerate spectre so it doesn't pause between workflows | 00:56 |
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| bunniefoofoo | since the sites won't be live when I do this | 00:56 |
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| bunniefoofoo | right now it only does 1 workflow per second, about | 00:56 |
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| @Haarg | what are the other workflows? | 00:57 |
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| @Haarg | the ldap ones should be ok to remove as well | 00:57 |
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| bunniefoofoo | they are all hourly and daily maintenance tasks | 00:57 |
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| @Haarg | ok | 00:57 |
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| @Haarg | those are all fine to kill | 00:57 |
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| elnino | hmmm. I have some things that archived in some collaboration systesm. how does someone in marketing find these and "unarchive them?" | 00:57 |
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| @Haarg | search will find them | 00:58 |
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| @Haarg | or a direct link | 00:58 |
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| elnino | assuing you remember the name or the links.... | 00:58 |
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| bunniefoofoo | example: process recurring payments, sycn user profiles with ldap, expire old subscription codes, "(none)", delete expired sessions, etc | 00:58 |
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| bunniefoofoo | most of them now are "(none)" | 00:58 |
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| bunniefoofoo | listed as hourly | 00:58 |
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| @Haarg | yeah, you can remove any of the maintenance workflows | 00:59 |
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| @Haarg | you said you are on 7.4.40 right? | 01:00 |
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| @Haarg | it would probably be a good idea to change the scheduled workflows to all be singleton | 01:00 |
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| @Haarg | we changed that in 7.5 | 01:00 |
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| bunniefoofoo | yeah | 01:02 |
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| bunniefoofoo | if I can get this running without spewing errors like crazy I will upgrade | 01:02 |
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| bunniefoofoo | well, I'm down to 450 workflows (deleted hourly/weekly/monthly maintenance workflows) | 01:07 |
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| bunniefoofoo | I'll let it run tonight and see if these things all flush out | 01:07 |
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| bunniefoofoo | thanks for the help haarg | 01:07 |
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| bunniefoofoo | do I need wre 0.8.5 to upgrade to 7.5.x or can I scrape by on wre 0.7.x | 01:10 |
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| BartJol | I would upgrade | 01:11 |
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| BartJol | not sure whether it is absolutely necessary | 01:11 |
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| bunniefoofoo | I would rather not since it may be tricky to get all the sites integrated | 01:12 |
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| bunniefoofoo | but I am worried about security issues with old apache/perl/mysql etc | 01:12 |
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| BartJol | check http://www.webgui.org/community-wiki/migration-to-wre-0.8 | 01:13 |
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| elnino | hmm. I was hoping to whip upa report that would give me a list of posts/threads that have been archived. but I see no "bit" setting for archived. How does one determine if a post is archived? | 01:19 |
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| +perlDreamer | I believe that you check the asset status. | 01:21 |
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| elnino | I see the collaboration.archiveafter db field. do you compare that with the "lastpostdate" of the thread?? | 01:22 |
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| elnino | oh. Lettme look at the asset status. | 01:22 |
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| +perlDreamer | look for "archived" | 01:22 |
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| elnino | ok. I'll take a look. Thanks! I think I'll post this on the bazzar when done, I would think this would be helpful. | 01:24 |
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| +perlDreamer | Good idea! | 01:25 |
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| elnino | hey preaction.. I'm searching for class type "WebGUI::Asset::Post::Thread:, and the three threads that I know that are archived, have a assetData.status of "published"... is there another field that you recommend I look at? | 02:28 |
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| elnino | hey preaction, don't know if you answered my last question long ago.. Kinda dropped off: I'm searching for class type "WebGUI::Asset::Post::Thread:, and the three threads that I know that are archived, have a assetData.status of "published"... is there another field that you recommend I look at? | 06:29 |
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| elnino | oh. dumb. Hold on. | 06:31 |
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| elnino | got it. I'm gonig to make a template and post it. | 06:36 |
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| Guest69129 | Hi | 17:18 |
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| danny_mk | Good day everyone | 17:26 |
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| danny_mk | anyone using the webservices wobject? | 17:27 |
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| danny_mk | three months ago got this new job and I am trying to sell webgui as a viable web development system | 17:28 |
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| danny_mk | if anyone has used the webservices wobject I could use a little help | 17:29 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | danny_mk: what's the issue? | 17:29 |
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| @preaction | heh, it's a hunk of junk :p | 17:30 |
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| danny_mk | just the "SOAP Call Parameters" I wanted to use the FormParam macro but even when I put a static value in the box | 17:30 |
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| danny_mk | the webservice does not seem to receive the parameter | 17:31 |
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| danny_mk | I wrote a small script to test the webservice and it works | 17:31 |
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| danny_mk | hmmm... maybe I should test a public webservice first huh? | 17:31 |
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| danny_mk | Hey preaction, has there been any progress on the chat wobject? | 17:32 |
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| @preaction | danny_mk, none. there are still the two prototypes. one doesn't have many features, but is stable and fast. the other has lots of specific features and is slow and poorly-coded | 17:33 |
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| danny_mk | Would you guys mind if I did it my way? I would like to take it on as it is a much needed wobject in my book | 17:34 |
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| danny_mk | I was given the code once but it did not even run on my development system | 17:36 |
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| danny_mk | maybe I need to play with it some more | 17:36 |
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| @preaction | yes, that was the second prototype i mentioned. the first one was only given at the WUC'07 | 17:37 |
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| danny_mk | which one do you prefer? | 17:37 |
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| @preaction | i wrote them both and they both fulfill exactly what i wanted them to | 17:37 |
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| danny_mk | LOL | 17:37 |
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| @preaction | i would think it easier to change the smaller one into something more powerful than to hack the larger one into a more generally useful application | 17:38 |
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| danny_mk | are they available now in the bazaar area? | 17:38 |
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| @preaction | no | 17:39 |
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| @preaction | the one you have will never be in the bazaar | 17:39 |
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| @preaction | unless you modify it extensively | 17:39 |
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| danny_mk | OK, where can I get a copy of the small one? | 17:39 |
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| @preaction | the other one is on http://webgui.tv in the Writing With YUI presentation | 17:40 |
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| danny_mk | Shoutbox.pm ??? | 17:41 |
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| @preaction | the Shoutbox.pm | 17:41 |
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| danny_mk | ah, ok, thank you. | 17:41 |
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| @preaction | also, YMMV. that code was written for 7.4 | 17:44 |
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| @preaction | as you can see though, it's insanely small | 17:44 |
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| danny_mk | it is ok, I can work with that. Will give you an update when I make some progress | 17:44 |
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| wgGuest | I have a blog related question, is there someone who might be able to help? | 18:07 |
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| @preaction | perlbot ask | 18:07 |
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| @preaction | perlbot? | 18:07 |
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| @preaction | hell | 18:07 |
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| @preaction | wgGuest, just ask, don't ask to ask. | 18:07 |
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| wgGuest | I've got a blog setup on a site, but when I go to add a post I can add a subject, but the WYSIWYG editor doesn't allow me to click into it. It's unresponsive. Any ideas? | 18:08 |
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| @preaction | is it loading? what's changed? what browser are you using? was it ever working? | 18:09 |
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| wgGuest | The editor is showing up, I just can't get focus in it actually edit. the only change was adding the collaboration system. I've tried this in FF3, IE7, and some early version of Chrome. And no, it has not worked since I added it this morning, this is the first time I've tried to add a blog. | 18:12 |
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| @preaction | Are you sure it doesn't have focus? have you tried typing things into it? What version of WebGUI are you using? | 18:13 |
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| wgGuest | nope, no focus. tried clicking into it and typing and got nothing. my curson also doesn't switch from an arrow to a text curson when I mouseover the text box. The meta tag in my headers is saying "WebGUI 7.5.27". | 18:16 |
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| @preaction | can you reproduce on the demo server? | 18:16 |
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| wgGuest | I haven't tried | 18:17 |
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| wgGuest | let me give that a shot. | 18:17 |
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| wgGuest | I'm just wondering if it has something to do with our custom theme | 18:17 |
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| @preaction | it's possible, which is why you try to reproduce on a different site | 18:18 |
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| wgGuest | sure, setting it up now. | 18:19 |
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| wgGuest | Able to edit in the demo environment. | 18:21 |
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| wgGuest | I'm wondering if maybe there's some sort of onLoad/onDOMReady type JS stuff that I've failed to add to our theme. | 18:21 |
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| wgGuest | I know I had a similar issue once with Drupal, where I had failed to include something like that. | 18:22 |
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| @preaction | the javascript for the tinymce editor should get loaded automatically. it is possible that something could be clobbering it before it has a chance to load though | 18:23 |
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| wgGuest | What sort of things might do that? | 18:24 |
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| wgGuest | JavaScript | 18:24 |
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| wgGuest | or layout stuff? | 18:24 |
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| @preaction | javascript | 18:24 |
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| @preaction | hm... deja-vu | 18:24 |
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| wgGuest | I guess, being unfamiliar with the WG internals or TinyMCE, what should I be looking for? | 18:25 |
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| +perlDreamer | preaction, when making a js i18n object, do you have to specify all the labels that you want to fetch? | 18:27 |
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| @preaction | perlDreamer, presently, yes | 18:27 |
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| +perlDreamer | okay. | 18:28 |
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| +perlDreamer | I'm going to try a foray into js this week with some i18n | 18:28 |
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| @preaction | there are some revisions i want to make, where you can just specify the namespace and get them all back, some page-level caching, and some more intelligent lazy-loading, but that's in the future | 18:28 |
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| @preaction | wgGuest, i would first check for any JS errors by using Firebug, barring that, i would start set some breakpoints to make sure the tinyMCE was getting initialized properly. | 18:29 |
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| wgGuest | I see no errors in my Error Console on FF3. | 18:29 |
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| wgGuest | Firebug makes my computer almost unusable unfortunately | 18:30 |
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| wgGuest | or at least did when I tried it last, maybe I'm not setting something up correctly though. | 18:30 |
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| wgGuest | incorrectly, rather. | 18:30 |
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| wgGuest | preaction, would my having JS in the body's onload conflict with some handler for TinyMCE? | 18:34 |
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| @preaction | it might | 18:34 |
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| wgGuest | any idea on a workaround to get my JS and the TinyMCE JS to both do things onLoad? | 18:36 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | hmm, I seem to recall that there is another event you want to hook into for onLoad, since you can clobber other onLoads. Can't remember what it is. | 18:43 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | onDOMReady | 18:44 |
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| @preaction | wgGuest, did you first just try removing your stuff to see if the tinymce loads? | 18:50 |
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| wgGuest | no, I will do that. | 18:51 |
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| wgGuest | that has enabled the TineMCE editor, so I guess it's now just a question of figuring out how to do the various onLoad things for mine and TinyMCE's JS. | 18:55 |
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| wgGuest | Thanks for helping with this. | 18:56 |
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| Mech422 | wgGuest: Plone uses a 'register()' type js function to allow multiple functions to be called when onLoad() fires... | 19:21 |
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| Mech422 | wgGuest: perhaps you can do something like that ? | 19:21 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | Tricky question about the SQLReports and the direct access hash for the template db columns. row.field.name with spaces.value will never work. So if you want to use a direct access to a column, outside of a loop, of a name with spaces, it won't work. Is there any reason we can't replaces \s with _ ? | 19:21 |
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| wgGuest | Mech422, I actually removed my initialization stuff from the onLoad | 19:21 |
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| wgGuest | and used setTimeout | 19:21 |
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| wgGuest | to call that | 19:21 |
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| wgGuest | but it's still hosing the editor | 19:21 |
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| wgGuest | TinyMCE loads and is usable for a 2 seconds (the length of the timer on my setTimeout) but as soon as my code runs, TinyMCE stops working, and I'm not sure why. | 19:22 |
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| wgGuest | my code basically sets up some clouds scrolling in the background | 19:23 |
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| wgGuest | so I'm not sure if it's because it's modifying the DOM by adding elements | 19:23 |
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| wgGuest | or what. | 19:23 |
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| wgGuest | but something in there is doing something TinyMCE can't cope with. | 19:24 |
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| Mech422 | wgGuest: Hmm - adding elements might piss it off... have you tried running your code FIRST, then tinymce ? | 19:24 |
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| Mech422 | this way, the dom doesn't change after tinymce is initialized ? | 19:25 |
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| wgGuest | I'm not sure how to do that, TinyMCE is adding it's onload (or whatever) handler somewhere in its code and I don't have access to that | 19:28 |
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| wgGuest | it's be added by WG. | 19:28 |
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| wgGuest | unless you know of a way to tweak that? | 19:28 |
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| Mech422 | wgGuest: oh - its not a custom template ? | 19:33 |
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| Mech422 | wgGuest: I thought you had a custom template you were hacking and could just reverse the includes :-P | 19:34 |
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| wgGuest | no, it is custom, but the blog editor that uses TinyMCE is generated by WG and it's adding in all of the JS includes | 19:37 |
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| wgGuest | is there a way to tweak that stuff? | 19:37 |
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| wgGuest | I am by no means a WG expert. | 19:37 |
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| wgGuest | but I'm sure that's fairly obvious. | 19:37 |
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| Mech422 | my understanding is that you can change the template used to display each type of content, as well as the overall page... | 19:39 |
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| Mech422 | I would probably create a 'custom template' for the blog stuff, and manually build up the js stuff just so I could see what was going on | 19:40 |
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| wgGuest | I guess I'll have to do some reading on that, I'm not at all familiar with the process. | 19:40 |
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| +perlDreamer | perlmonkey2: I think you're good to go with that. No problems with backwards compatibility :) | 20:09 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | perlDreamer: that's what knowmad and I concluded | 20:10 |
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| +perlDreamer | well, y'all are the pros | 20:10 |
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| CIA-6 | WebGUI: doug * r8334 /WebGUI/ (2 files in 2 dirs): fixed: DataForm now allows you to edit existing tabs | 20:21 |
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| CIA-6 | WebGUI: perlmonkey2 * r8335 /branch/WebGUI_7.5/ (2 files in 2 dirs): SQLReport now replaces field name spaces with hyphens for the direct access template params. | 20:21 |
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| CIA-6 | WebGUI: perlmonkey2 * r8336 /WebGUI/ (2 files in 2 dirs): SQLReport now replaces field name spaces with hyphens for the direct access template params. | 20:21 |
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| +perlDreamer | perlmonkey2, perlmonkey2 | 20:33 |
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| +perlDreamer | He's our man | 20:33 |
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| +perlDreamer | If he can't | 20:33 |
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| +perlDreamer | do it | 20:33 |
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| +perlDreamer | We're in deep shit | 20:33 |
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| knowmad | Aye! Go perlmonkey2! | 20:33 |
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| +perlDreamer | ...That should be an indicator of just how crappy $dayJob is currently. | 20:33 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | hahahahaha | 20:33 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | perlDreamer: I hear there is always a place for you in Madison. | 20:34 |
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| +perlDreamer | I have thought a lot about that, perlmonkey2. | 20:35 |
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| knowmad | hey, perlDreamer hope you're tunneling this IRC conversation :) | 20:35 |
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| +perlDreamer | No. They know that morale is poor. | 20:35 |
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| knowmad | that sucks but i like that chatter i'm hearing here.... | 20:36 |
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| bunniefoofoo | is there a way to increase the rate the spectre processes workflows, I don't think it is fast enough to keep up with 70 sites | 20:54 |
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| bunniefoofoo | I had 120 workflows waiting last night, now I have 940 | 20:57 |
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| bunniefoofoo | the sites are not live so I am wondering whats wrong | 20:58 |
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| knowmad | you sure spectre is working? | 21:18 |
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| knowmad | have you run spectre --test? | 21:18 |
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| @rizen | bunniefoofoo are your maxworkers set to 5, and seconds between workflows set to 1? | 21:20 |
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| +perlDreamer | preaction: How do I attach the i18n object to a master/container object? | 21:32 |
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| +perlDreamer | I made a half-hearted attempt to port what was in DataTable for i18n to the AssetManager | 21:37 |
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| @preaction | perlDreamer, in your constructor do something like this.i18n = new WebGUI.i18n(); | 21:43 |
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| @preaction | then you can put the namespace and keys you need in that new WebGUI.i18n( ... ) call | 21:43 |
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| +perlDreamer | yes | 21:44 |
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| @preaction | you can also have it run something when it gets the answer back from the server, like your object's real init function | 21:44 |
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| +perlDreamer | preaction: http://webgui.pastebin.com/m72f6c3f6 | 21:49 |
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| +perlDreamer | Lines 332-344 is the init code | 21:49 |
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| +perlDreamer | and I try to use it on line 64 to i18n the Edit label | 21:49 |
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| @preaction | ah, that's not OO code, that's functional code | 21:50 |
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| @preaction | so instead of this, try something like WebGUI.AssetManager.i18n = | 21:51 |
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| @preaction | then use that to refer to it | 21:51 |
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| @preaction | ill admit it's a bit clunky | 21:51 |
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| +perlDreamer | for access, WebGUI.AssetManager.i18n.get | 21:51 |
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| +perlDreamer | ? | 21:51 |
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| @preaction | yeah | 21:51 |
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| +perlDreamer | I was feeling my oats this morning with the i18n issues, but I think for now I'll leave the declunkification of the AssetManager to the masters | 21:52 |
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| bunniefoofoo | rizen, it was on workers 3 time between 4, I changed to 5/1 and I'll see if that works, thanks | 21:57 |
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| @rizen | that will work | 21:57 |
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| +perlDreamer | preaction, no go. I'll repaste some more code. | 21:59 |
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| +perlDreamer | after lunch | 22:01 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | preaction: what should happen when a user clicks on a package in the assetManager? | 22:51 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | shoudl it deploy that package to the parent of hte page? | 22:52 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | or is the problem it deploys to that page, but then also shows view on the new asset? | 22:53 |
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| @Haarg | sounds like the problem is that it views the new asset | 23:00 |
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| @Haarg | instead of returning to the asset manager | 23:01 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | assets containing other assets is done through lineage, right? So if there is a bug where moving an asset to another asset causes all of its revisions to also move, that would be something altering the lineage of all versions? | 00:00 |
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| @preaction | perlmonkey2, lineage isn't versioned | 00:00 |
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| @preaction | somehow all the revisions are being placed under the same tagId (located in the assetData table) | 00:01 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | and it is also how assets know their child/parent relation? | 00:01 |
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| @preaction | lineage and parentId are how they know, yes | 00:01 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | if lineage isn't versioned, then when an asset is moved, all of its versions are also moved, rigth? | 00:02 |
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| @Haarg | moved in the tree, yes | 00:02 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | then is http://www.webgui.org/bugs/tracker/8837 a bug then? | 00:03 |
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| @preaction | i wouldn't think of it like that, lineage and versioning do not interact. that's why cut and copy warn you "this change is not versioned" | 00:03 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | oh, I'm misreading the bug. Its about moving an asset into a version, not under a new asset. | 00:03 |
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| @preaction | yeah, it's the WebGUI::Operation::VersionTag screen | 00:04 |
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| @preaction | www_manageRevisionsInTag or something | 00:04 |
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| @preaction | quick OT question: Is it RFC822 / 2822 legal to not have a From: header in an e-mail? | 00:10 |
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| @Haarg | perlmonkey2: looks like it's a problem in Asset::setVersionTag | 00:16 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | ah, someone with higher privs than me, can you tell me if force ssl login is set at pb.com? | 00:18 |
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| Lisette | how to do to get the total price of the cart? | 00:18 |
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| +perlDreamer | Lisette: perldoc WebGUI::Shop::Cart | 00:25 |
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| +perlDreamer | preaction, no luck with clunky assignment | 00:33 |
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| +perlDreamer | WebGUI.AssetManager.i18n = new WebGUI.i18n( { | 00:33 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | can an asset get its version id? | 00:33 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | $self->session->db->write("update assetData set tagId=? where assetId=?", [$tagId, $self->getId]); needs to only update the tagId of the selected tagId, not all assetId's. | 00:34 |
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| +perlDreamer | perlmonkey2, that's exactly right | 00:34 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | so now I need to find out how to get the current version tag id. | 00:35 |
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| +perlDreamer | in sql or in perl? | 00:35 |
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| +perlDreamer | in sql, I'd use max versionDate | 00:35 |
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| @Haarg | ->get('tagId') | 00:35 |
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| @Haarg | or ->get('revisionDate') | 00:36 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | where assetId = $self->getId() and tagId = $self->get('tagId') | 00:36 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | that will get the current version's info and not the last version's info? | 00:36 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | I guess so. only makes sense. | 00:37 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | else versioning wouldn't work :) | 00:37 |
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| @Haarg | hmm | 00:38 |
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| @Haarg | well, from the look of the ui, it is revision based, not asset based | 00:38 |
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| @Haarg | so you'd want to follow what it says in the pod for setVersionTag - change only the current revision | 00:39 |
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| @preaction | perlDreamer, the issue is that it makes an AJAX call, so you need to wait for that to return before you can use any labels. | 00:39 |
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| @preaction | AJAX is async, so you have to have a callback, hence the "onpreload" event | 00:40 |
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| @preaction | question for the crowd: Is it Good that we allow multiple revisions of the same asset in a single version tag, or should those be consolidated into one revision? | 00:41 |
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| @preaction | imho it's more confusing than anything | 00:41 |
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| @preaction | (having multiple revisions of the same asset in a version tag) | 00:42 |
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| @Haarg | i'm not sure | 00:42 |
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| @preaction | i understand the benefits, but i don't think the added complexity is worth it | 00:43 |
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| @Haarg | added complexity for the user you mean? | 00:43 |
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| @Haarg | because changing it would involve extra complexity in the code unless i'm missing something | 00:43 |
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| @preaction | yeah for the end-user | 00:44 |
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| @preaction | it wouldn't be too much complexity in the code, a hook in addRevision, no? | 00:44 |
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| @preaction | well, some code in there at least | 00:44 |
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| @preaction | that may not be the ideal solution of course | 00:44 |
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| +perlDreamer | preaction, I'm going to need some help with the callback, too. | 01:09 |
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| @preaction | perlDreamer, okay. basically take everything that was in that initialization function and put it in a new function (initDataTable perhaps). then create the i18n in the original init function and have it have the following additional config: | 01:11 |
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| @preaction | onpreload : WebGUI.AssetManager.initDataTable | 01:12 |
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| @preaction | that should work | 01:12 |
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| @preaction | if it doesn't, try -- onpreload : { fn: WebGUI.AssetManager.initDataTable } | 01:12 |
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| +perlDreamer | so the only thing in WebGUI.AssetManager.initManager should be the i18n instanciation? | 01:12 |
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| @preaction | yup | 01:13 |
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| @preaction | unless there's something you don't need i18n for | 01:13 |
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| @preaction | i realize it's kind of a roundabout way to do this, but imho it's cleaner maintenance: it keeps everything in JS. there's more of the asset manager that could be in the JS, and just the data methods are AJAX calls written in Perl | 01:14 |
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| +perlDreamer | I agree. And I like the wholesale prefetch better than a post-init, fetch on demand | 01:16 |
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| +perlDreamer | but it's not working | 01:16 |
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| +perlDreamer | now the whole data table is gone | 01:16 |
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| +perlDreamer | and the error console is empty of everything but sam warnings | 01:16 |
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| +perlDreamer | Here's a paste: http://webgui.pastebin.com/m7054bc48 | 01:18 |
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| @preaction | perlDreamer, trailing comma line 221 | 01:19 |
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| @preaction | also line 217 | 01:19 |
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| @preaction | and 351-363 aren't needed | 01:20 |
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| @Haarg | perlmonkey2, you around? | 01:36 |
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| +perlDreamer | preaction: http://webgui.pastebin.com/m555e3f21 | 01:46 |
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| +perlDreamer | still no datatable | 01:46 |
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| @preaction | caching problem perhaps? firebug active? | 01:50 |
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| +perlDreamer | no firebug | 02:01 |
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| +perlDreamer | I'll kill my caches on server and client and try agani | 02:01 |
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| +perlDreamer | again | 02:01 |
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| SDuensin | Evening all. | 02:03 |
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| +perlDreamer | Howdy, SDuensin | 02:08 |
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| SDuensin | What's the word? I've been out. | 02:10 |
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| * perlDreamer does not know JS. That's the word. | 02:11 |
| @preaction | Thunderbird! | 02:11 |
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| SDuensin | JS isn't too bad once you get the hang of it. | 02:12 |
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| SDuensin | Go crazy and just use ObjJ. :-) | 02:17 |
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| CIA-6 | WebGUI: graham * r8337 /WebGUI/lib/WebGUI/Asset/ (Wobject/SyndicatedContent.pm Event.pm Wobject/Survey.pm): clean up pod, syntax, warning problems | 03:48 |
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| CIA-6 | WebGUI: graham * r8338 /WebGUI/ (8 files in 8 dirs): improved performance of file uploads and changed format of created uploads locations, avoiding case sensitivity problems | 03:48 |
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| CIA-6 | WebGUI: graham * r8339 /WebGUI/docs/create.sql: preparing for 7.6.3 release | 03:48 |
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| CIA-6 | WebGUI: graham * r8340 /WebGUI/ (25 files in 11 dirs): Backing out Survey for now | 04:59 |
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| CIA-6 | WebGUI: graham * r8341 /WebGUI/docs/create.sql: preparing for 7.6.3 release | 04:59 |
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| +perlDreamer | No Survey2? | 05:01 |
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| +perlDreamer | What's up? | 05:02 |
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| @khenn | I believe survey2 is getting a manicure | 05:02 |
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| @Haarg | upgrade is messed up | 05:02 |
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| +perlDreamer | I see. Cuticles, nails, buff and polish? | 05:02 |
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| @Haarg | i'm not going to be able to get it working tonight, so i'm pulling it out so i can release | 05:03 |
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| @khenn | or that | 05:03 |
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| +perlDreamer | You were close, khenn | 05:04 |
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| @khenn | close only counts in horseshoes, hand grenades, and nuclear bombs | 05:05 |
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| @khenn | =) | 05:05 |
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| +perlDreamer | What about bean farts? | 05:05 |
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| @khenn | nope | 05:06 |
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| +perlDreamer | or is that included in the nuclear bomb category? | 05:06 |
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| @khenn | heh | 05:06 |
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| +perlDreamer | time to transform from overworked chip designer into child hygiene specialist | 05:06 |
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| +perlDreamer | bbiaw | 05:06 |
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| @khenn | I suppose | 05:06 |
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| CIA-6 | WebGUI: jt * r8342 /releases/WebGUI_7.6.3-beta: Release 7.6.3-beta | 05:31 |
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| CIA-6 | WebGUI: graham * r8343 /WebGUI/ (4 files in 4 dirs): preparing for 7.6.4 dev | 05:31 |
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| CIA-6 | WebGUI: graham * r8344 /WebGUI/ (25 files in 10 dirs): adding survey back in | 05:31 |
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| SDuensin | Greetings. | 16:22 |
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| ckotil | Any ideas on this workflow error Im seeing after upgrading? http://webgui.pastebin.com/m7a55d78d | 16:31 |
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| ckotil | could the 'wait until' activity be the reason for the undefined value as a scalar reference? | 16:39 |
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| ckotil | the wait until activity is missing from my workflows. | 16:39 |
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| BartJol | I think it cam | 16:40 |
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| BartJol | can | 16:40 |
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| ckotil | i sure hope so | 16:40 |
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| BartJol | if it's undefined | 16:40 |
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| ckotil | will i need to recreate my workflows to incorporate hte new activity? | 16:40 |
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| BartJol | if that is the problem, yes | 16:41 |
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| BartJol | :) | 16:41 |
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| ckotil | THanks | 16:42 |
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| Lisette | anyone knows in which table of database of webgui keeps the data when i add a product in the cart? | 16:42 |
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| BartJol | well, thank me when it helped | 16:42 |
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| BartJol | Lisette: several | 16:43 |
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| Lisette | you can tell me? | 16:43 |
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| BartJol | depends on what you need | 16:44 |
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| BartJol | Products are assets, so in the assetData table, in the Product table | 16:45 |
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| BartJol | maybe more | 16:45 |
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| Lisette | i need knows that user add a product in the cart | 16:47 |
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| Lisette | how to do to knows that user add a product in the cart and which? | 16:55 |
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| topsub | you want to know when a user adds a product to the cart and what product? | 16:56 |
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| Lisette | yes | 16:57 |
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| topsub | One way might to alter the add to cart function to call a macro or something to let you know what just got added | 17:05 |
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| @rizen | Lisette at any time you can query the cart to find out what's in it | 17:05 |
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| SDuensin | Hey rizen - Sorry I missed your message yesterday. I was busy being unconscious. | 17:06 |
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| @rizen | but to have it trigger an event in your code...that's not really likely unless you write your own sku's | 17:06 |
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| Lisette | the table is called cart? | 17:08 |
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| Lisette | he cart does not distinguish a cart for each user? | 17:10 |
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| @bopbop | Lisette: I think the cart distinguishes by session, not user | 17:13 |
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| @bopbop | but that's about all I know | 17:13 |
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| SDuensin | Hey rizen_ - Sorry I missed your message yesterday. I was busy being unconscious. (Resent since you pinged out.) | 17:13 |
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| rizen_ | Lisette: if you call my $cart = WebGUI::Shop::Cart->newBySession($session); | 17:15 |
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| rizen_ | that will get you a cart object | 17:15 |
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| rizen_ | and then you can call getItems() on the cart object | 17:15 |
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| @rizen | that will get you a list of items that are in the cart | 17:16 |
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| @rizen | for the current user | 17:16 |
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| Lisette | thanks | 17:20 |
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| Lisette | and how to do to know when the checkout is successful, the keeps in any table? | 17:22 |
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| @preaction | Lisette, once the checkout is successful it's not a cart anymore, it's a transaction. you can use WebGUI::Shop::Transaction to get at it | 17:27 |
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| Lisette | i can use this in a macro? | 17:31 |
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| Lisette | alls transactions are in the table transaction? | 17:34 |
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| @rizen | yes, but don't query the table directly | 17:34 |
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| @rizen | use the API | 17:34 |
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| Lisette | if i need consult that user buy a specific item in any time, i can use the api? | 17:36 |
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| Lisette | ? | 17:46 |
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| carogray | quick question on looking at list of users in Admin Console | 17:53 |
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| carogray | good morning/afternoon | 17:53 |
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| carogray | in the column that says "status" 2 people have "success" in their row | 17:54 |
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| carogray | what does "success" mean and what about the people who have nothing in the "status" column in their row - what is going with them? | 17:54 |
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| +MrHairgrease | lisette: you can use the api for virtually anything you want to ask webgui | 17:56 |
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| +MrHairgrease | if you are writing sql queries againt the webgui tables there's a big chance you should be using the api | 17:57 |
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| @rizen | success means they have successfully logged in | 17:57 |
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| @rizen | at some point | 17:57 |
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| Lisette | but how to create the new object? i have do a query with the id? | 17:58 |
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| +MrHairgrease | no | 17:58 |
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| +MrHairgrease | just read the documentation | 17:58 |
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| Lisette | ok | 17:58 |
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| @rizen | carogray...it shows you whether their last login was successful, a failure, or if they never tried to log in | 17:58 |
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| +MrHairgrease | you proilly want to look at WebGUI::Shop::transaction | 17:58 |
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| +MrHairgrease | and WG::S::TransactionItem | 17:59 |
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| +MrHairgrease | anyway | 17:59 |
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| +MrHairgrease | bye | 17:59 |
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| Lisette | i can know the transaction specific of an user of a item specific? | 18:46 |
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| carogray | rizen: thanks for the answers, but does this information get updated when we get an upgrade? One of my editors just tried to login, he has been logging in not frequently but has done so a number of times in the last 2 years and there is no "success" next to his name? | 18:47 |
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| carogray | in fact..he phoned me cause He couldn't login - wouldn't that constitute a 'failure" he had the right user name but not the right pw | 18:48 |
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| Lisette | or i have to do process all transaction for a specified user and process all items for each transaction? | 18:49 |
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| @rizen | carogray: for a full detailed list check the user login history in the admin console | 18:49 |
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| @rizen | carogray: also note that the user login history only lasts for 90 days, there is a workflow the cleans it up...but you can change that if you like | 18:50 |
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| topsub | is there an api to add keywords to an asset? | 18:50 |
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| @rizen | $asset->update(keywords=>"list of keywords goes here" | 18:50 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | Anyone have any novel ideas on how to resolve this bug? I've look through the db and logs and just don't see how it happened. http://www.webgui.org/bugs/tracker/authentication-problem | 18:52 |
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| @rizen | it's likely a problem with SSO.pm in Operation or the two SSO buttons in the upper right corner of the plainblack / webgui site | 18:54 |
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| topsub | ahh thanks rizen | 18:54 |
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| @rizen | if those buttons got cached somehow..they could cause the problem i suppose | 18:55 |
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| Lisette | ??? | 18:55 |
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| @rizen | Lisette: i have no idea what you're asking, and unfortunately i now have to leave | 18:58 |
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| @rizen | read the API | 18:58 |
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| @Haarg | perlmonkey2, i've looked at that bug several times and still can't come up with anything | 19:06 |
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| @perlmonkey2 | Haarg: close it as unrepeatable? | 19:06 |
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| @Haarg | my only thought is that the random number generator created two duplicate session ids, but that seems very unlikely | 19:07 |
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| @Haarg | i guess | 19:07 |
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| @Haarg | best i can dome up with | 19:07 |
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| +perlDreamer | preaction, willing to have another go at it? | 19:30 |
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| +perlDreamer | I'll start trying to get firebug installed | 19:30 |
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| @preaction | perlDreamer, i can try to help, but i've got this pesky server performance problem to work out today | 19:35 |
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| +perlDreamer | Okay. I'm just not sure how to go about debugging the js from here. | 19:36 |
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| +perlDreamer | the DataTable in the AssetManager is not showing up at all | 19:36 |
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| +perlDreamer | and the Error Console is empty | 19:36 |
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| @preaction | perlDreamer, firstly, open Firebug and choose the "Script" tab, then on one of the Options menus there is "Break on all errors", select that and reload | 20:11 |
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| @preaction | be careful though, that may cause firefox itself to start locking up, so have your Force Quit ready | 20:11 |
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| +perlDreamer | kill -9 fixes all evils ;) | 20:12 |
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| @preaction | doesn't fix init :P | 20:14 |
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| +perlDreamer | preaction: var postJson = 'request=' + YAHOO.lang.JSON.stringify( obj ) ; ---> YAHOO.lang.JSON has no properties" | 20:30 |
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| @preaction | perlDreamer, you need to include $session->url->extras( 'yui/build/json/json-min.js' ); in the page | 20:31 |
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| +perlDreamer | you mean that JS doesn't drag it its own dependencies, and they have to be manually resolved at the top? | 20:53 |
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| @preaction | essentially yes | 20:53 |
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| @preaction | i developed that code before the YUI Loader went stable | 20:54 |
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| @preaction | and not sure if it is stable yet technically | 20:54 |
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| carogray | rizen: thanks | 20:56 |
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| +perlDreamer | Just came across a good one I thought that I'd share | 22:05 |
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| +perlDreamer | I tried to start apache and got this: | 22:06 |
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| +perlDreamer | [Wed Nov 12 11:09:08 2008] [crit] (28)No space left on device: mod_rewrite: could not create rewrite_log_lock | 22:06 |
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| +perlDreamer | Googling says that I'm out of sockets, but none of the recommended scripts worked correctly, so I hacked them up to get this: | 22:06 |
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| +perlDreamer | ipcs -s | perl -ane 'next unless /apache/; print `ipcrm sem $F[1]`;' | 22:06 |
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| +perlDreamer | and it worked | 22:06 |
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| SDuensin | That's voodoo, man! | 22:07 |
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| +perlDreamer | SDuensin, I'm a command-line voodoo shaman | 22:09 |
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| +perlDreamer | for perl | 22:09 |
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| SDuensin | Nice. WebGUI + Mac = Painless. | 22:11 |
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| +perlDreamer | All the PB guys dev on Macs. That's why. | 22:11 |
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| SDuensin | They're geniuses. I knew it. | 22:11 |
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| +perlDreamer | I heard that Jobs gives them a kickback | 22:14 |
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| SDuensin | Hell. I should get one. Even got my M$ Vista Fanboy coworker using a Mac. :-) | 22:15 |
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| -!- rizenisaway is now known as rizen | 22:20 |
| SDuensin | He's back! | 22:23 |
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| SDuensin | That was a hell of a lunch. :-) | 22:23 |
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| Lisette | i can save data in a different database of webgui in an utility? | 22:35 |
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| @preaction | Lisette, you can use DBI to connect to whatever database you want, sure | 22:36 |
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| Lisette | how to do, with $session->dbh? | 22:36 |
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| Lisette | off course i have $databaseLink | 22:37 |
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| @preaction | Lisette, if you have a databaselink then do $databaseLink->dbh | 22:42 |
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| @preaction | er... $databaseLink->db (it's a WebGUI::SQL object, just like $session->db) | 22:43 |
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| @preaction | or you could use DBI directly: use DBI; my $dbh = DBI->connect( ... ); | 22:43 |
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| +perlDreamer | preaction: no more JS errors, but no DataTable either | 22:44 |
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| Lisette | ok! then i don't need to add of webgui! thanks | 22:46 |
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| @preaction | perlDreamer, i would next try to make sure my code was being run. By using the Script tab, you can view the scripts (click on the text next to Inspect to see a list of scripts). You can set a breakpoint on the far left clicking in the gutter. | 22:50 |
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| +perlDreamer | roger that, coach | 22:51 |
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| @preaction | if the initDataTable isn't getting run, it means something's up with the i18n | 22:51 |
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| @preaction | also, check the Console tab, it should have a list of all the AJAX calls made, along with the response and request data for them | 22:51 |
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| @preaction | if the i18n ajax call failed, that might cause what you're seeing | 22:52 |
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| +perlDreamer | what do green line numbers mean? | 22:55 |
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| @preaction | where? in the console? | 22:55 |
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| +perlDreamer | when inspecting a script | 22:55 |
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| @preaction | dunno, don't think i've seen a green line number | 22:55 |
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| @preaction | looks like green line numbers are executable lines | 22:57 |
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| @preaction | maybe that means you could enter them into the console command-line? | 22:57 |
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| +perlDreamer | I only have green line numbers in the top 20 lines of the file. | 22:59 |
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| +perlDreamer | No dangling comments or anything | 22:59 |
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| +perlDreamer | I'll set the breakpoint, in any case. | 22:59 |
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| +perlDreamer | After setting the breakpoint, how do I rerun the JS? | 22:59 |
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| @preaction | reload the page | 23:00 |
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| @preaction | the firebug will keep across reloads or clicked links | 23:00 |
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| +perlDreamer | BP1 hit okay | 23:02 |
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| +perlDreamer | but... | 23:02 |
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| +perlDreamer | a 2nd breakpoint inside the initDataTable function is not hit | 23:02 |
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| +perlDreamer | it's like the preload callback inside the i18n isn't being called | 23:02 |
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| +perlDreamer | onpreload : { fn : WebGUI.AssetManager.initDataTable222 } | 23:03 |
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| +perlDreamer | no 222's there | 23:03 |
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| +perlDreamer | onpreload |
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