WebGUI irc logs from: 2013-03.log

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+danny_mkI wrote a Datatables.net form component;  WebGUI::Form::DataTablesNet03:28
+danny_mkit is easy to use from within the webgui api, however i want to expose it as a macro so that it can be made available to users.03:29
+danny_mkthinking about all the options makes me a bit worried about using eval{} to parse configurable options03:29
+danny_mkwhich makes me believe I have to write some sort of a parser for my configuration options03:30
+danny_mksomeone must have done this before03:30
+danny_mkany suggestions appreciated03:31
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@scrottiedany_mk, I have a Macro in wG that displays a Form control of your choice18:37
@scrottiedanny_mk18:39
+danny_mkGREAT!  I just finished WidgetFactory...argghhhh18:39
@scrottiehmm.18:39
+danny_mkhttps://github.com/dannymk/webgui/blob/NewAdminInterface/lib/WebGUI/Macro/WidgetFactory.pm18:41
@scrottieWidgetFactory is a pretty generic name18:42
@scrottieand my macro whose name I forget does nothing special to set up datatables or their subclasses.18:43
+danny_mkmeaning???18:45
@scrottiegetDatatableConfig.18:47
@scrottieit has nothing like that.18:47
+danny_mkcontuse me via Skype to see it in action18:48
+danny_mkneed a few min of your time18:48
+danny_mkcontuse = contact18:49
@scrottieokay, one minute, let me finish this email so I'm not doing too many things at the same time ;)18:49
@scrottieokay, restroom break, then skype.  sorry, complex email.19:13
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haargon an unrelated note, scrottie you are a crazy person.  i just ran into CHI::Driver::Ping again when working on CHI.19:16
+danny_mkhaarg: the rumor is that you are great with CSS and html, I need a little help with an interface19:20
haargnot sure about that rumor, but i could take a look19:21
+danny_mkdo you use Skype at all?19:22
haargnot really19:22
@scrottieI love you too, haarg =)19:22
+danny_mkhmmm... what would be the best way to share this screen, maybe a snapshot19:24
@scrottieready when you danny_mk, but feel free to chat about CSS first19:24
+danny_mknah, this is more important19:24
+danny_mkhaarg:  I will get back to you.19:24
@scrottieno sound19:25
@scrottieoops.  user error.  ahem.19:28
+danny_mkwholly shit, why is it so hard to get all the request->params from Plack::Request , the darn thing returns a  Hash::MultiValue, so hard to get a simple hashRef... argghhh20:37
@scrottiehrm.  what exactly didn't work like it was supposed to?20:47
haargdanny_mk: http://haarg.org/p/2013-03-011VZA5wve it seems like you were after something like this20:49
haarga Hash::MultiValue object should work about the same as a hashref for most cases20:50
+danny_mkyou would think so20:50
+danny_mkhaarg:  thank you, I have to look into the changes20:52
+danny_mkwill get back to you20:52
+danny_mkoh my lord, I must be tired.  I forgot to prefix the hashRef with Dumper $hashRef....20:54
+danny_mknever mind my last comments20:55
sbaurdanny_mk: sounds like you need sleep21:01
+danny_mkLOL, have not stopped working on WebGUI stuff for about 5 days now21:07
+danny_mkeven had a meeting with the boss and he asked me what I was doing.  I had to pass it off as work.  Was not easy but did it.  Well, we use WebGUI here a lot so I guess I just lied a little21:07
* sbaur learned to not touch servers when sleep deprived -- it just leads to all sorts of WTF? later on21:08
+danny_mkthat is why I love this VM.  Works like a charm and I have a good copy plus my git repo21:08
+danny_mkI should be ok21:08
+danny_mkLord, hallelujah IT WORKS!!!, yeah....21:29
+danny_mkquick, commit before you change anything...21:31
+danny_mkdone...21:32
@scrottieteehee21:57
@scrottieit's hard to multiplex between things.  for me, at least.21:57
@scrottienice to get things finished =|21:57
@scrottiedanny_mk, you coming to YAPC::NA this year?21:58
+danny_mkwas not planning on it21:58
@scrottieoh well.  had to ask ;)21:58
+danny_mkshould I?21:58
@scrottieif you want to and can, sure.21:58
@scrottiethere's lots of great perl nerdery.21:58
@scrottieI enjoy doing lighting talks for the things I cobble up.21:59
+danny_mkLast time I went was in Chicago22:00
+danny_mkI probably can22:00
@scrottieAustin is a fun little town.22:00
+danny_mkAh, its in June, that is definitely a posibility22:02
+danny_mkmaybe we can have a good interface by then?22:02
@scrottiemaybe!22:03
+danny_mkhe...he..22:03
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grywhat changes does webgui make to nginx conf? how do I go back to using /var/www/ after closing webgui off?05:24
@scrottiewG itself doesn't change nginx.conf.  if you used the installer, it intsalled a fresh nginx.conf for you.05:24
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gryscrottie: think I did - did it make a backup?05:50
@scrottienope...06:32
@scrottiesorry06:34
* scrottie adds that to the todo06:34
gryTODOs are the Good Stuff :)06:35
gryWeb search for the distro default worked, as it wasn't something I fiddled with at that point. Luckily enough no data loss here06:36
@scrottieguessing wG8 had too many problems to work out for you.06:41
@scrottiethanks for all of the good bug reports.06:41
@scrottiesorry I didn't have more time I could dedicate to helping you configure and customize things.06:42
grywell yes - it's as simple as me not deciding on funding a server for a project that doesn't seem successful. I got a quite positive impression overall06:43
@scrottiehmm.06:44
gryIf I don't die off, I'll likely set the thing up in a vm after clearing some disk space locally, assuming I handle few things properly so I don't waste time or worry about them anymore06:44
@scrottiewould be nice if it played nicely enough with things that it didn't need a VM06:45
grywhat does it change in the system - other than installing perl modules, putting stuff into /data/, and editing nginx.conf?06:48
@scrottiecan't think of anything else off of the top of my head, but I'd have to read through the installer code to see.06:48
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gryhow do I export data from webgui while it's not running?00:55
@scrottiewhat data do you want to export?01:05
grypages content (articles)01:25
@scrottielooks like articles store the data in them using wG's "storage" API01:31
@scrottieso it isn't a straight database query to get it out.  you actually have to use the API, or fake it.  I have an example around somewhere, but it would still require adaptation for your purpose.01:31
@scrottiesorry, I don't have time to write this right now.01:35
gryit's ok - I got site to load using :8081 port after borking the nginx config. I'm saving the data now01:47
@scrottiegood to hear01:51
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+danny_mkTrying to build a new interface:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hb66FfnUQ802:20
sbaurinteresting02:24
sbauri like the whole trying to keep out of your way apect of what you are trying to do02:24
+danny_mkinteresting bad or good?02:24
sbaurbut the screen resolution wasn't good enough for me to see/read the stuff you didn't click on02:24
sbauri can't say bad or good at the moment... :)02:25
+danny_mkyes, I am not very good at capturing video02:25
+danny_mkthe whole point is to make it easier to also build a mobile admin interface02:25
sbaurI like the goal of staying out of my way, but I like the goal of easy to get to what you need quickly even more02:25
+danny_mksuggestions are always welcomed02:26
+danny_mkhelp even more :-)02:26
sbaurI'm happy to suggest, but I'm nowhere near ready to get webgui 8 running anywhere02:26
* sbaur NOT a programmer02:26
+danny_mkdesigner?02:27
sbaurDesktop Support/SysAdmin, who can barely cobble together simple scripts, i can "follow" perl code but creating it is quite painful and the results are much more functional than elegant/efficient02:28
sbaurAnd I have to get to an appointment, but if there's a way I can see this without having to get 8 running first, then I'd be happy to suggest away ;)02:28
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pvanthonyIs anyone else having a problem with carousel?08:06
pvanthonyin the latest version 7.10.2708:06
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@scrottieheya danny_mk01:14
@scrottiesorry, I suck (and not in a good way)01:14
@scrottiecode project and the Tempe Bike Count are kicking my butt01:14
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pskeptman... i'm having weird problems with the search asset. when i change a search asset's Search Root field the results are not changing. what am i missing? 17:34
+BartJoljust for certainty, maybe it is in a version tag?18:10
+BartJolI can imagine that can cause some confusion18:12
pskeptwell i just took a look to see if there were any open version tags. there weren't. when searching the site i found this http://www.webgui.org/wiki/webgui-search-system18:17
pskeptit suggests reindexing. 18:17
pskeptcould that be what i need to do?18:17
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NamdIs no taint mode not supported with WebGUI?20:11
NamdTurning taint mode on rather20:11
haargi'm pretty sure that won't work20:11
NamdI just tried to turn it on but it ran into an error with preload.perl20:13
NamdI host other websites on the apache, which I was trying to turn taint mode on for20:13
NamdAny suggestions/input?20:15
NamdWouldnt you want taint mode on if you were to use WebGUI as a public site?20:16
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+danny_mkHey, you around?23:01
+danny_mkscrottie: you around?23:01
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qwebirc84931Hello. I'm looking for help. Does WebGUI have the resources built-in?  We're starting an amateur sports league and need the ability to: create zones, leagues, clubs, teams, players; display teams by zones, leagues; display players by zones, leagues, teams19:28
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pskepthi. is there an asset i can use to pull together the contents of several collaboration systems? i have tried the syndicated content assest using the rss url for collaboration systems but it doesn't provide quite flexibility i'd like when customizing the template. 20:33
@scrottiepskept, nothing comes to mind.  seems like it would be fun to write, though.  you could give it a URL and an HTML element id to extract all the contents under.21:21
pskeptyou are suggesting it would be fun for me to write or fun for you to write? i agree that it would be fun for me to write but i have not dove further into webgui than the templating language. where do i start? 21:26
pskeptso i would implement an asset in perl?21:26
@scrottiewell, I do enjoy coding on wG.  it would be fun for me.  but I have no spare capacity at the moment.  doing a contract project, running the Tempe Bike Count, and I promised danny_mk I'd help him with something he's doing that's *extremely* cool.21:27
@scrottieyup, assets are perl.21:27
@scrottiethe _Developer's Guide_ on webgui.org is the next step.21:27
@scrottieand ask lots of questions.21:27
@scrottiestart by making an asset that does nothing but remember and let you edit data.21:27
pskeptright, just making sure i understand your suggestion. i am interested so i'll start on the developer's guide now. thanks!21:27
@scrottiethat's the foundation that you're working off of.21:27
@scrottiewG is a CMS but it's also a sort of ORM21:27
pskeptok. 21:27
pskeptobject relational mapping?21:28
@scrottiethe asset fields get persisted in the database, and it can automatically make an edit screen foryou.  you have to template the output though.21:28
@scrottieyeah.21:28
pskeptcool. thanks for the direction. i'll definitely have some questions. 21:29
@scrottieand the usuals in here can help answer stuff too.21:29
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@scrottie=(21:36
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@scrottieyay!21:37
sbaurseems like thingy could be a good starting point, but what i remember about thingy is that it was really difficult to display data after it had been entered in22:14
pskepti'll take a look at it. thanks all. see you(r typing) tomorrow. 22:31
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ckotilhttp://www.webgui.org/web_design_templates_and_themes/data-form-submission-button ++16:12
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ryuu_roHey guys, long time no see23:30
ryuu_rolittle question, does anyone how to do the following23:31
ryuu_roI have a photo gallery for the "normal" website23:32
ryuu_roand I have a mobile website23:32
ryuu_roon the mobil photo gallery page I have a shortcut asset with an override value for the "list albums" view23:33
ryuu_roso that it looks better on the mobile page23:33
ryuu_robut then I want to click on one of the thumbs displayed on the mobile page's albums23:34
ryuu_roand I get redirected to the original photo gallery23:34
ryuu_roI completely understand why23:34
ryuu_robut it's not the behaviour I want23:34
ryuu_roI want to get redirected to the album with one of the override templates I set on the shortcut23:35
ryuu_rodoes anyone know if this is possible at the moment?23:35
sbaurI don't know if it's possible, but, you're already in a custom template, right? so can you add something to the query string in the link that specifies the template?23:36
sbauri don't know if it will work, but i think I've seen that in some of the assets so it might be worth exploring???23:37
ryuu_rothanks sbaur, I will have a look into it23:57
sbauri do wish scrottie or daviddelikat was around to give a second opinion...23:58
ryuu_rootherwise I'll just extend the shortcut asset to keeps it's "shortcut" context23:58
ryuu_royeah no worries 'bout that, I know my way in WebGUI hacking :)23:58
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@daviddelikatryuu_ro: are you using webgui's mobile content settings for your mobile version of the gallery?00:04
ryuu_royep, what I'm doing a the moment is use the mobile page layout to assetproxy the shortcut of the gallery00:07
ryuu_roshould I not be using the asset proxy and just make a better css stylesheet?00:08
ryuu_roor should I not have a gallery on a page layout?00:08
ryuu_robut just as the "page" container itself00:09
ryuu_roin the latter I would have to move and link a couple of articles which are also in the page layout00:10
ryuu_robut that's not to big of a worry00:10
ryuu_rothe answer I'm really looking for is:00:11
ryuu_rohow do I keep mobile context in a photo gallery after being redirected from the initial photo gallery view to another00:11
ryuu_roso from a "list albums" view to a "view album" view00:12
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ryuu_roredirected isn't the right word here btw00:14
ryuu_roit's not via a redirection but via a direct link in an anchor tag00:14
@daviddelikatunfortunately the amount of customization that can be done for mobile content is rather small.00:22
ryuu_roI understand, I think I'm gonna extend the shortcut asset with a "keepContext" property. Maybe more people would like it right?00:23
@daviddelikatare you using html template or template toolkit?00:24
ryuu_rohtml template00:24
ryuu_rottk no problem btw00:24
@daviddelikatsomething you can try would be to set an indicator in the mobile style sheet template00:25
@daviddelikatand then test for that indicator in later templates00:25
@daviddelikatthat would allow you to customize in more detail at lower levels00:26
@daviddelikatnot sure if html template allows you to do things like that00:26
@daviddelikatbut I belive template toolkit would00:26
ryuu_rook so a temp store for a possible value.... something in the likes of "useShortcutContext = 1", but still, I use the <tmpl_var url> template var in "list albums" template. How would it know to grab the original uri with the override value... I really have no idea of how to tell a template to parse a uri with a different template then added as default in the asset. Is there a way to do this, or am I missing something in your explenation00:31
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gryif folks here happen to be nginx wizards, how do I make the webgui instance show up when user goes to foo1.com but not foo2.com while they both point to the same box webgui is on?03:01
haargcreate another server { } block for foo2.com with server_name foo2.com03:03
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grythe server_name_here.nginx in /data/WebGUI/ has a comment at the top, ##Force all domain requests, mysite.com, to go to www.mysite.com03:40
grywhat part of that server block makes *all* of them go somewhere? it has a server_name, but I type different domains pointing to that box and webgui shows up at all times even though one of them has a second server block in sites-enabled/03:41
gryhmm, looks like I actually got it to work03:45
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@scrottieyarrr.21:33
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NamdI seem to be having some issues with setting up a ldap connection for authentication. Whats the best way to debug the connection? The connection status says its valid. and when im on debug mode I dont really see anything that seems to help. Also my log file is not reporting any issues19:57
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@scrottieyarrrrr.20:42
@scrottieNamd, you'd probably have to set the log level to debug, and then you'd have to know what you're looking for in the log.20:43
@scrottiesorry, I don't know anything about LDAP setup in wG.20:43
@scrottiemaybe someone else does20:43
@scrottiedanny_mk, sorry to vanish there.  short deadline and project started to spin out of control.  as usual.  then another obligation surfaced.  I have a bit of time today if you want me to look at anything.  tomorrow I'll actually check out code and look at it more properly.20:45
@scrottiedanny_mk, I'm going to ask you all of my Java questions =)20:45
+danny_mkscrottie:  OK, we can look now if you wish?20:45
@scrottielater on, I mean.20:45
+danny_mkah, OK20:46
@scrottieer, later on for Java, I mean.20:46
+danny_mkSkype20:46
* scrottie nods20:46
NamdI wasnt aware there was a place to change the debug level21:21
@scrottiewell, there's the webgui log, and there's the debug output on the screen21:21
@scrottieer, in the web page21:21
@scrottiethe log level setting in /data/WebGUI/etc/logger.conf I think it is sets how much stuff is shown21:22
Namdoh21:22
Namdty ill check that21:22
@scrottiebut if you set it to log level debug, you'll get a wall of output every hit, and it's hard to find anything unless you know what you're looking for, so you have to read the source of the related part of the system and find what it logs, and then search for that.21:23
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+BartJolmmm, I don't see String::Random in de gotcha of 7.10.2810:53
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+BartJolluckily I do run testEnvironment.pl :)11:08
+BartJolmmm, used by the wre.... I don't use wre11:11
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+danny_mkdoes patrick donelan still come around or is he here now?16:56
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haargdanny_mk: that's patspam_21:59
haargnot sure if he watches the channel at all though21:59
+danny_mkwould really like to get a video together of WebGUI and development using Padre22:00
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+danny_mkFor those of you who are brave enough to try new things in WebGUI8 here you go:  https://github.com/dannymk/webgui/tree/NewAdminInterface23:30
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@scrottieheey danny_mk19:04
+danny_mkhey19:04
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ckotilCan pagination for search or sql report assets be set dynamically? Perhaps in a GET/POST variable?14:12
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ckotilthis works , for now. http://pastebin.com/htcVh03315:13
ckotilthink it could get merged?15:13
ckotilI was inspired by the searchRootOverride found in Search.pm15:13
ckotilhttp://pastebin.com/w8ERA1Vk for SQLReport.pm15:37
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