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| neilkpd | Hi. Can anyone comment on this hosting provider, http://www.arvixe.com/WebGUI_hosting | 18:07 |
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| +patspam | cool - haven't seen them before but someone else here might know | 18:09 |
| scrottie3 | haven't heard of them. | 18:57 |
| scrottie3 | come back and let us know how it is? | 18:58 |
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| scrottie3 | danny_mk! | 18:50 |
| +danny_mk | yes? | 18:51 |
| scrottie3 | hello. | 18:53 |
| +danny_mk | ah, Hi | 18:54 |
| +danny_mk | what are you working on? | 18:56 |
| scrottie3 | some bike count chores. | 18:58 |
| scrottie3 | met with the data analysis last night. | 18:58 |
| scrottie3 | there are four analysis now and all but one of them thinks that emailing around .xls files is a great way to share data. | 18:59 |
| +danny_mk | You have one of those huh? | 18:59 |
| scrottie3 | Three of 'em. | 19:27 |
| +danny_mk | too bad | 19:33 |
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| van | Help, I have inherited a custom content handler, pulling data from a Thingy table, and calling a Detail Template and passing the result of that up to a Style Template. | 23:02 |
| van | Only, I need to pass custom contents of <title> and a custom meta description up to the Style template somohow, with data from the Thingy. | 23:03 |
| van | Here's what I've added so far: http://pastebin.com/w4ueYHZn (because the old style template is using a macro called SEOTitle which pulls from the Scratch object, that works, but the "synopsis" part is not creating a <meta> element for the description. | 23:08 |
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| scrottie3 | between lingering Bike Count stuff and lingingering $paid_project stuff, there goes my day. I started at 8am, too. bah. | 00:51 |
| scrottie3 | van, what I am looking at in there? | 00:51 |
| scrottie3 | re: "synopsis" not creating a <meta> element, there's an extraHeadTags thing, I think it's called, that might be what you want | 00:53 |
| scrottie3 | I don't know what's in that template | 00:53 |
| scrottie3 | $session->style->setMeta() may also be what you want | 00:55 |
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| +danny_mk | Good day everyone, I thought most of the content at YAPC was free. | 17:00 |
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| scrottie3 | most of the content at YAPC is, except for the "workshops", which are basically training sessions | 20:19 |
| scrottie3 | a small percentage of people goes to those | 20:19 |
| scrottie3 | what the heck am I doing... I don't even know | 20:36 |
| +danny_mk | I was registering for the advanced Moose and the testing one. | 20:52 |
| +danny_mk | wonder if it would be worth the money | 20:52 |
| scrottie3 | hard to say, but if you are going to get training, then there's a lot to be said for getting it from key people behind the projects. | 20:52 |
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| elnino | how do I change the time zone for the install? | 07:17 |
| elnino | ok. I have to modify the visitor's profile. | 07:22 |
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| ckotil | http://pastebin.com/En7Ymp9Z | 19:40 |
| ckotil | Im trying to auto login a user when the REMOTE_USER environment variable is set. | 19:40 |
| haarg | maybe you want $auth->authenticate($ENV{REMOTE_USER}); ? | 19:42 |
| haarg | i don't remember what the api looks like, but that would make more sense than what you have | 19:43 |
| ckotil | ok, ill try it. | 19:45 |
| ckotil | hrmm, no dice. but it has to be close. | 19:55 |
| ckotil | login instead of authenticate seems to work. | 20:48 |
| ckotil | very cool. | 22:13 |
| ckotil | Is there some variable that contains the list of all users? I need to not autologin if the REMOTE_USER environment variable is a username, that does not exist. | 22:31 |
| haarg | there will be some method on WebGUI::User that will search for user | 22:31 |
| haarg | docs should help | 22:32 |
| ckotil | newByUsername? | 22:32 |
| haarg | yeah | 22:32 |
| haarg | and it should return undef if the user doesn't exist | 22:33 |
| ckotil | that should work. thanks! | 22:33 |
| ckotil | put this into a content handler | 22:42 |
| ckotil | http://pastebin.com/wRRhLkxL | 22:42 |
| ckotil | also i have some code in the same content handler to prevent users from stealing each others sessions | 22:46 |
| ckotil | http://pastebin.com/2rjLk5gr | 22:46 |
| ckotil | we use the ssoViaSessionId a lot, and users would accidentally (or not) become other users. | 22:46 |
| ckotil | while copy/pasting URLs | 22:49 |
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| scrottie3 | yarr | 01:29 |
| scrottie3 | just back in. hope everything is under control. | 01:29 |
| scrottie3 | I'll backlog in a bit here (after cutting up strawberries to freeze) | 01:36 |
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| qwebirc30743 | hello | 23:35 |
| qwebirc30743 | anybody here can help me install webgui using mamp | 23:36 |
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| neilkpd | Good morning. Its been a while since there was a WebGUI 8 update. Could someone provide any news! | 17:16 |
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| ckotil | http://www.yapcna.org/yn2013/talk/4650 | 17:28 |
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| scrottie3 | I really need to go to less lame conferences than YAPC. | 19:15 |
| scrottie3 | the ingenuity, creativity, humor, execution, ... everything... in DEFCON talks puts YAPC to shame | 19:15 |
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| scrottie3 | hi neilkpd, wG8 is essentially a community project now. you give me a status update =) | 19:17 |
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| scrottie3 | man, I still go off on two hour benders to figure out why things aren't working in cases where one simple error message would have saved me. | 00:58 |
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| gry | scrottie3: the preferences have a tick to show debug messages, I gather you have tried that already? | 03:03 |
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| scrottie3 | gry, thanks for the thought, but in this case, there is litterally no code to generate a debug message. | 04:31 |
| scrottie3 | wgd on an asset that's still pending fails with a generic message rather than telling you that it couldn't find an acceptable version of the asset. | 04:33 |
| scrottie3 | the code is half wgd and half wG, in this case. | 04:33 |
| scrottie3 | I'm probably going to wake Haarg from his slumber talking about wgd. | 04:33 |
| haarg | who did what now | 04:33 |
| scrottie3 | STAY INSIDE THE PENTAGRAM! | 04:33 |
| * scrottie3 hisses and waves holy water | 04:33 | |
| scrottie3 | I was just remarking that I still stumble over lack of diagnostic output and spend multiple hours tracing the problem down. | 04:34 |
| scrottie3 | in wG | 04:34 |
| haarg | yeah | 04:34 |
| haarg | with wgd i ended up papering over a lot of things to provide a "friendly" command line interface, because usually you wouldn't get much useful out of webgui itself | 04:35 |
| scrottie3 | well, this scenario is getting diagnostics in my fork | 04:36 |
| haarg | for something still pending, it could certainly do better. iirc webgui roughly acted the same, so it would be an extra check which it never occurred to me to implement. | 04:37 |
| scrottie3 | I really should make an Acme module that gives you a full-screen register dump on error | 04:37 |
| haarg | perl exceptions may be painful, but dumping something to a log file and returning undef is definitely worse | 04:39 |
| haarg | it was one of the first things i mentioned to jt when working on webgui | 04:40 |
| scrottie3 | there is code in here for reporting when it can't find an asset, but for some reason, it doesn't run | 04:41 |
| haarg | which code? | 04:42 |
| scrottie3 | http://pastie.org/7595317 | 04:42 |
| scrottie3 | $session->errorHandler->warn("The URL $url was requested, but does not exist in your asset tree."); in WebGUI::Asset runs if you give it a URL, but if you gave wgd an assetId | 04:45 |
| scrottie3 | (er, that's in newByUrl) | 04:45 |
| scrottie3 | but if you give wgd an assetId, new() runs (unless there's a newById(), which there isn't in this case), WebGUI::AssetVersioning::getCurrentRevisionDate returns undef, and new() returns undef without any warn/log/info/debug/nothin' | 04:46 |
| scrottie3 | getCurrentRevisionDate() checks the status and ignores pending things | 04:47 |
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| sbaur | i'm trying to figure out how dataforms deal with attachments. I see a guid in the DB for the attached file, but that doesn't seem to match an assetId or storageId, at least not that I can find any ideas? | 19:42 |
| pskept | if i change the password for the webgui unix user will this have any negative effects? | 21:06 |
| scrottie3 | pskept, not that I know of | 21:09 |
| scrottie3 | and I really don't think so | 21:09 |
| scrottie3 | but if it really matters, test on another machine? | 21:09 |
| scrottie3 | sbaur, which field is that? | 21:11 |
| scrottie3 | mailAttachments is type yesNo | 21:11 |
| sbaur | DataForm_entry.entryData | 21:11 |
| sbaur | which is a JSON of the entire entry | 21:12 |
| sbaur | including this guid that somehow translates into the uploaded files | 21:12 |
| sbaur | and it's the guid that is included when you export to tab delimited | 21:13 |
| scrottie3 | hrm. okay, if Form objects get added to it that have storage locations, it takes the first file from each storage location | 21:13 |
| sbaur | (at least in 7.6) | 21:13 |
| scrottie3 | let's see | 21:13 |
| sbaur | thing is, the guid's didn't seem to be in either assetId field of the asset table or the assetId or StorageId fields of the FileAsset table | 21:14 |
| scrottie3 | my $p = WebGUI::Paginator->new($session,$self->getUrl("mode=list")); | 21:14 |
| scrottie3 | my $entryIter = $p->getPageIterator(); | 21:14 |
| scrottie3 | while ( my $entry = $entryIter->() ) { | 21:14 |
| scrottie3 | my $entryData = $entry->fields; | 21:14 |
| scrottie3 | trying to follow the scent | 21:14 |
| sbaur | thank you :-) | 21:14 |
| scrottie3 | ah, an entry is WebGUI::AssetCollateral::DataForm::Entry | 21:16 |
| sbaur | i may submit an RFE that an actual link to the file is exported in the tab delimited version, instead of the "useless" guid | 21:16 |
| scrottie3 | someone did it for a reason. it maybe a good reason or bad one, I don't know. | 21:16 |
| scrottie3 | I'd need to do more testing than I have time to right now, but that ID might be a key into the DataForm_entry table. | 21:18 |
| sbaur | mysql> desc DataForm_entry; | 21:19 |
| sbaur | +------------------+--------------+------+-----+---------+-------+ | 21:19 |
| sbaur | | Field | Type | Null | Key | Default | Extra | | 21:19 |
| sbaur | +------------------+--------------+------+-----+---------+-------+ | 21:19 |
| sbaur | | DataForm_entryId | varchar(22) | NO | PRI | NULL | | | 21:19 |
| sbaur | | userId | varchar(22) | YES | | NULL | | | 21:19 |
| sbaur | | username | varchar(255) | YES | | NULL | | | 21:19 |
| sbaur | | ipAddress | varchar(255) | YES | | NULL | | | 21:19 |
| sbaur | | assetId | varchar(22) | YES | MUL | NULL | | | 21:19 |
| sbaur | | entryData | mediumtext | YES | | NULL | | | 21:19 |
| sbaur | | submissionDate | datetime | YES | | NULL | | | 21:19 |
| scrottie3 | a wgd command that told you which table a given GUID appeared in would be useful | 21:19 |
| sbaur | yes, yes it would | 21:19 |
| sbaur | :-) | 21:19 |
| sbaur | Luckily I think I can work around my problem using some custom code written in house a few years ago | 21:19 |
| sbaur | (DataFormReport) | 21:19 |
| scrottie3 | maybe, but the best thing to do would be to use the existing API | 21:20 |
| scrottie3 | or maybe your code does | 21:20 |
| scrottie3 | perldoc WebGUI::AssetCollateral::DataForm::Entry | 21:20 |
| sbaur | It will not fix the fact that the tab delimited data does not have a useful link to the uploaded files, but it will let me display it all on screen | 21:20 |
| scrottie3 | that gets mixed into WebGUI::Asset::Wobject::DataForm, so if you create a DataForm object, you should have methods from both of those | 21:21 |
| sbaur | I don't know what the code uses, I can just tell you it seems to be working :-) | 21:21 |
| scrottie3 | so you should be able to call DataForm::Entry methods on that wobject instance and fetch and minipulate the data that way | 21:21 |
| scrottie3 | that's cleanest | 21:21 |
| scrottie3 | and most robust | 21:21 |
| sbaur | huh, i thought we'd uploaded that to the bazaar ages ago, but i can't find it when searching | 21:23 |
| sbaur | of course i know i've added macro's to the bazaar and can't find those either | 21:24 |
| scrottie3 | hrm | 21:24 |
| scrottie3 | no idea. I've never really been involved with that. | 21:25 |
| sbaur | well, the search on the bazaar has always been less than stellar | 21:25 |
| sbaur | and on the whole webgui.org site | 21:25 |
| sbaur | it's a side issue. I'd still like to know from a database perspective (not a programmer one) how those guid's get translated to things in the uploads dir, but it is merely an academic exercise now, not urgent. Thank you for taking some time to help me try to track it down. When my programmer is back on Monday, I'll see if he can explain it to me :-) | 21:28 |
| scrottie3 | it looks like that mix-in has logic for storing collections of Form elements and the data in them. | 21:31 |
| scrottie3 | so that GUID identifies a stored form element. | 21:31 |
| scrottie3 | part of the data for form elements that result in Storable stuff is the storableId. | 21:31 |
| sbaur | ok, I'm almost following what you are saying :-) | 21:32 |
| scrottie3 | my $wobject = WebGUI::Asset::Wobject::DataForm->new(...) | 21:33 |
| scrottie3 | my $entryIter = $wobject->entryClass->iterateAll( $wobject) # kinda odd | 21:35 |
| scrottie3 | while (my $entry = $entryIter->()) { my $entryData = $entry->fields; for my $field (@{ $fields }) { my $form = $wobject->_createForm($fieldConfig->{$field}, $entryData->{$field}); if ($form->can('getStorageLocation')) { my $storage = $form->getStorageLocation; .... do whatever you want with $storage } } | 21:36 |
| scrottie3 | that would loop over all storage stuff in all submissions | 21:37 |
| scrottie3 | if you have an "entryId", you could do: | 21:37 |
| scrottie3 | my $wobject = WebGUI::Asset::Wobject::DataForm->new(...); my $entry = $wobject->entryClass->new( $wobject, $entryId <--- your entryId there ); $wobject->getAttachedFiles( $entry ); | 21:39 |
| scrottie3 | getAttachedFiles() returns an array of results from calling $storage->getFiles->[0] on each form element that has a getStorageLocation() method | 21:39 |
| scrottie3 | the docs aren't great, but please do read the perldoc for those two classes for more ideas on how to get data out of them. | 21:40 |
| sbaur | scrottie, if i were a programmer, that would be really helpful. But I'm just taking a tab delimited file, generated by the dataform asset and trying to find the associated files that were uploaded. I know my way around a mysql db, so I thought, well, I can read table descriptions, maybe I can find the place were the translation happens, so I can do a VLOOKUP in excel and translate them into a url that my managers will be able to click on | 21:44 |
| scrottie3 | it's not stictly technically possible to find the file paths from querying the database. if you threw VBA at it (path names get transformed, hashed, and split, for example), it could be done that way. | 21:47 |
| sbaur | Lucky for me, I have a different way to get the submissions with attached supporting documents in front of the eyes of my managers. | 21:47 |
| sbaur | that is not dependent upon me writing code :-) | 21:47 |
| scrottie3 | but I would strongly discourage that and encourage you to instead to learn enough Perl to make API calls so that the existing code can fetch your data for you. | 21:47 |
| scrottie3 | ugh | 21:47 |
| sbaur | scrottie, here's the situation from my p.o.v.: Monday boss says, "Ack, we need a place for people from all 23 campuses to submit requests for transforming courses. They have 10 days to get all this data in". We say, DataForm to the rescue, and take about a day to get all the details hammered out of fields and what not. Folks upload their data and files. About 60 so far. Now boss says, "The committee needs to be able to evaluate these, right away." My first t | 21:59 |
| scrottie3 | well, I could do it in a few hours and my rate is ... oh, hmm. let's say $60/hour. | 22:06 |
| scrottie3 | (and nope, I'm PlainBlack fulltimer any more) | 22:07 |
| scrottie3 | er, not a | 22:07 |
| sbaur | If the answer is, it can't be done, I have to find a totally different solution, which in this case was to deploy our DataFormReport asset, create a report against the DataForm used above, thank $deity that it knows how to translated the attached files into pretty little assetproxy style links and icons. took me about 1.5 hours | 22:07 |
| sbaur | you're not a plainblacker anymore? | 22:07 |
| scrottie3 | nope. haven't been for months. | 22:07 |
| scrottie3 | I'm funemployed! | 22:08 |
| sbaur | hehe | 22:08 |
| sbaur | i hope you are happy in your funemployment | 22:08 |
| scrottie3 | I organized the Tempe Bike Count and a bunch of other stuff. | 22:08 |
| sbaur | sweet | 22:08 |
| scrottie3 | thanks. so far so good. I want to figure out how to make it permanent. | 22:08 |
| sbaur | oh, it's lunch time, must be why my stomach is getting mad at me :-) | 22:09 |
| sbaur | ttyl | 22:09 |
| scrottie3 | ditto | 22:09 |
| scrottie3 | later | 22:09 |
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| pskept | scrottie3: solid advice. thanks. | 22:59 |
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| +BartJol | any experiences with increasing the max_allowed_packet size for modperl? Customer has a script that connects via WebGUI::SQL but needs a larger max_allowed_packet size (btw the sql server is remote, so we specifically need it for the modperl sql client) | 17:40 |
| +BartJol | I created a /data/wre/etc.my.cnf, but that doesn't seem to get used | 17:41 |
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| ckotil | i have a my.cnf file for the wre here /data/wre/etc/my.cnf | 17:43 |
| ckotil | maybe just a typo | 17:44 |
| ckotil | max_allowed_packet=100M | 17:44 |
| +BartJol | is that in the mysqld section? | 17:50 |
| +BartJol | or mysql? | 17:50 |
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| ckotil | d | 17:52 |
| +BartJol | ah, but I need it for the client | 17:58 |
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| +BartJol | and the commandline client does include my configuration option in the conf file you mention, but apparently modperl doesn't | 18:02 |
| +BartJol | modperl/webgui | 18:03 |
| +BartJol | mmm, getting dirty: I could alter Session.pm, the db connect function, to push another parameter | 18:06 |
| ckotil | was gonna suggest that, do it in the pm | 18:06 |
| ckotil | but there has to be a cleaner way | 18:06 |
| +BartJol | well, as that is the only place I can find the db connect, and it doesn't get options from configs, I am afraid it 'll get dirty | 18:14 |
| +BartJol | my first attempt didn't crash my apache :), still have to test whether it actually works | 18:21 |
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| gry | there is no l10n tools for articles with webgui is there? | 16:08 |
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| +BartJol | gry: not that I know off | 16:50 |
| gry | hrm that's pretty interesting | 16:54 |
| +BartJol | well, what do you want, coupling with the place a user who wrote an article is from? | 16:57 |
| +BartJol | you might be able to use a sql report for that | 16:59 |
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| scrottie3 | heeey danny_mk | 20:47 |
| scrottie3 | bike advocacy group stuff is soaking up way too much of my time. trying to get it in check. I suck =| | 20:48 |
| scrottie3 | still have this piece half done. | 20:48 |
| scrottie3 | and firefox just lost all of my tabs. it does it just often enough that I'm not ready for it. | 20:48 |
| +danny_mk | OK, I am still working on interface issues but making progress | 20:49 |
| scrottie3 | I also got a bit distracted with an interface to workflowy.com | 20:50 |
| +danny_mk | Looks intersting | 20:58 |
| scrottie3 | WWW::Workflowy | 20:59 |
| scrottie3 | TBAG uses it for a lot of stuff so after a point, there's a strong incentive to start tying systems together | 20:59 |
| scrottie3 | I'm wiring it up to Mailchimp so we can very easily manage some of the smaller volunteer lists | 20:59 |
| scrottie3 | have to go afk in a few for a meeting, then there's another meeting tonight | 21:00 |
| +danny_mk | OK, sometime in the near future we have to connect | 21:01 |
| scrottie3 | yeah. I need to log a few more daysont hat first. I hate having meetings about something I haven't done anything on since the last meeting =| | 21:01 |
| +danny_mk | gotit | 21:02 |
| sbaur | hi all | 21:20 |
| sbaur | does wgd have some way to verify that a files .wgaccess is in line with it's current permissions? All of a sudden, I have a ton of images that are no longer showing, but for one of them so far, just saving the image with different permissions, then saving it back seemed to fix it. (of course this is on my site with about 10 gb in the domains dir) | 21:21 |
| sbaur | let me rephrase, they are no longer showing for visitors, but logged in users see them just fine | 21:24 |
| sbaur | and their permissions say they should be visible to everyone | 21:24 |
| scrottie3 | sbaur, not that I know of. | 21:27 |
| sbaur | damn, i really, really don't want to futz with every single image on this site by hand... | 21:27 |
| scrottie3 | I'm sure that it can be automated. | 21:32 |
| sbaur | this poor old site | 21:36 |
| sbaur | and, it's not throwing any errors into the log | 21:39 |
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| sbaur | phew, most of my problem images were all in one images folder in the asset Manager. I was able to change permissions with Edit Branch and then change them back. Still don't know why they went wonky in the first place, but it seems to be fixed for now. | 00:40 |
| scrottie3 | good news! | 00:40 |
| scrottie3 | large enough site and you're going to start exposing the well hidden wG bugs. | 00:41 |
| sbaur | and old enough. This site probably started life as a 5.x site | 00:41 |
| scrottie3 | sorry if my instinct is to want to nuke it from orbit ;) | 00:42 |
| scrottie3 | on the other hand, it's kind of awesome that that worked at all | 00:42 |
| sbaur | I feel that way about some of my sites some of the time too | 00:42 |
| scrottie3 | heh | 00:42 |
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| scrottie | slowass.net crashed after nearly 1000 days. | 23:55 |
| sbaur | oh yay, a box that never gets patched :) | 23:56 |
| scrottie | hrm. not exactly. would be interesting to see if ksplice works on Xen kernels. | 23:56 |
| scrottie | but ssh/sshd got upgraded about three times during that time. | 23:56 |
| scrottie | I haven't read any Cert advisories for remote exploits in the Linux kernel in that time but I may have missed one. | 23:57 |
| scrottie | local exploits are a different matter. | 23:57 |
| sbaur | too true | 23:58 |
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| scrottie | one of the users did share a password and the thing got pwnd once. I hand audited it, diffing the entire machine against the last backup and verfiying every changed file. so I do know that if someone gets user level access, they've got root. | 00:00 |
| scrottie | that was probably the last reboot, nearly three years ago ;) | 00:00 |
| sbaur | that sounds like a tedious process, verifying all changed files | 00:00 |
| scrottie | yup. I have way too much hand built software installed to want to re-install everything, though. | 00:01 |
| scrottie | typical. | 00:01 |
| scrottie | laptop is the same way. | 00:01 |
| scrottie | I have an OpenSSI (on top of Debian) system where /usr/bin/perl is 5.16, and apt still works ;) | 00:02 |
| scrottie | and OpenSSI's Debian host is now a deprecated version of Debian. | 00:02 |
| scrottie | I also backported security fixes to the OpenSSI kernel. | 00:09 |
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| +BartJol | pfff altering the dbi handler also does not seem to work | 15:18 |
| ckotil | for max packet size? | 15:20 |
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| +BartJol | ckotil: yes, I've given up and referred the client to plainblack or perldreamer | 16:48 |
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| eleger81 | hey everyone... question RE: a recent upgrade to 7.10.28 and not sure if anyone would be able to help at all (hopefully this is the right place). In the calendar when adding an event and specifying a time, there used to be a new popup box to select the time (hour/minute/second) via dropdowns. This is no longer functioning since upgrade. Is this intentional or is this some sort of bug? Now the only way to add the event time is to m | 17:25 |
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| eleger81 | hey everyone... question RE: a recent upgrade to 7.10.28 and not sure if anyone would be able to help at all (hopefully this is the right place). In the calendar when adding an event and specifying a time, there used to be a new popup box to select the time (hour/minute/second) via dropdowns. This is no longer functioning since upgrade. Is this intentional or is this some sort of bug? Now the only way to add the event time is to m | 18:06 |
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| eleger81 | Hi all, hopefully someone can help with a question I have since upgrading to 7.10.28. In the previous version when entering an event in the calendar, clicking on the specific start/end time fields opened a new window to select the time via drop downs. This doesn't work anymore and now we can only type the times manually. Was this an intentional update or might it be some sort of bug? | 22:22 |
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