WebGUI irc logs from: 2012-09.log

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@scrottieyarr.20:55
sbaurscrottie, are you practicing for Talk Like a Pirate Day?21:17
@scrottieaye, that blight be nary upon us!21:18
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elninoscrottie you awake?05:52
@scrottiehuh?  wha?  who's there?05:54
elninome.... I got a doozy.05:57
elninoI'm workign on 7.4.05:57
@scrottiebefore my time.05:57
elninobefore mine too. It doesn't have the capability to move versions from one verstion tag to another. I thought maybe I would write a update query, but I'm a bit of a lost as to how I would do that. I was hoping to move changes by assetID.05:58
@scrottiehrm.05:59
@scrottieselect max(revisionDate) from assetData where assetId=whatever05:59
@scrottieno single query since data is spread across tables06:00
@scrottiewait... "move versions from one version tag to another...moves changes by assetID"06:00
@scrottieso you aren't taking everything from one version tag and dumping it into another version tag... you're only taking certain things from one version tag and dumping it into another?06:01
@scrottieI didn't know that you there was UI for doing anything like that in modern wGs06:01
elninoyep, it's really COOLL and CRITICAL. I've basically worked my self into a very deep hole. Can't do anything anymore and I really cant commit right now. sigh.06:03
@scrottiewhen desprete, always make sure you have good backups or you're liable to find yourself more desprete.06:03
elninoI suppose I can look atthe source, not even sure where that is anymore06:03
@scrottiegithub.  you should be able to list all of the 'tags' and then check out the correct version tag.06:04
@scrottieit's just a previous version of the same project.06:04
@scrottiedo you know what version tag you want to move from and to?06:04
@scrottiethey're stored as epochs in the database (number of seconds since midnight 1970 GMT)06:04
@scrottieselect distinct revisionDate from assetData where assetId=whatever06:05
elninooh. I'm afraid I'm confused. versoin tag with in webgui, not webgui's basecode version tags.06:06
elninoyes, I know the version tags from and to.06:06
@scrottieor select from_unixtime(revisionDate) from assetData where assetId=wahtever06:06
elninoI would move all changes to a particular assetID at a time.06:07
@scrottieright.06:07
@scrottieinternally, versions of assets are keyed off of revision date.06:07
@scrottieso you need to figure out what the current revision date and the target revision date.06:07
elninohttp://www.webgui.org/dev/db-schema but there is a assetData.tagId, can't I do that?06:09
@scrottieyeah, I was just looking for basically that06:10
elninook, so I should search for the assetId and update the tagid to the new tag id, right?06:10
@scrottieare you making this change to the current versions of the assets?06:11
@scrottieselect from_unixtime(revisionDate), tagId from assetData where assetId=whatever order by revisionDate desc;06:11
@scrottiethere are multiple entries in that table (and most tables) for each asset, one for each revision of it06:12
@scrottiegenerally, it's bad form to update all of them.06:12
@scrottieyou want to update one specific one -- probably the current one -- but it's worth double checking.06:12
@scrottieare you going to roll back to previous version of the assets in question?06:12
elnino so I should search for the assetId that is in the "from tagId" and update the tagid to the "new tag id", right?06:12
@scrottiefeel free to nopaste the output of that query run on one of your assets06:12
@scrottiebasically, yeah.  the tagIds are keys into the assetVersionTag table06:13
@scrottiebut you still need to figure out *which* revision of the asset you want to update!06:13
@scrottieare you updating the latest revision?06:14
@scrottietechnically, you could do all of them.  but again, that's bad form.06:14
elninono no, just the ones in the "old tagId"06:14
@scrottieyou really don't want every revision of the asset belonging to the same version tag =P06:14
@scrottieokay.06:14
@scrottieas long as you're aware that there are multiple entries for each assetId and you guard against updating them all in your where clause ;)06:15
@scrottieselect tagId from assetVersionTag where name='whatever version tag name'06:16
@scrottieif you do that for the old tag name and the new tag name, then you should be able to use those values to do:06:16
@scrottieupdate assetData set tagId=<new tagId> where tagId=<old tagId> and assetId=<assetId>06:16
elninoyep, that was what i was thinking ... almost htere.06:17
@scrottieoh, if wG is running *or* if it has cached data, it might overwrite changes you make directly to the database with cached stuff, so it's safest to stop wG (wreservice.pl --stop modperl) and clear the cache (wgd reset --delcache)06:17
elninohuh. interesting thought.06:22
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elninoyoure missing all the fun daviddelikat06:31
@daviddelikathows that?06:31
elninoi'm recreating the functionaltiy in newer versions of wg that moves revisions to another version tag.06:32
elnino7.4 apparently doesn't have that.06:32
elninogrr06:32
@scrottieI bang the database directly all day long =P06:33
@scrottieif I didn't, I might have given you a more useful suggestion than that:  upgrade =P06:33
@scrottieI might add something like Microsoft Update Center to wG8 where you have to wage battle to *keep* it from updating.06:34
elninoupgrading isn't anoption at this poitn unfortunately, I'm working on a customized version of 7.4 of an old partner of plainblacks.06:36
@scrottiethe automatic update daemon is going to git add -a, git commit, then git pull --rebase, then run upgrades.  that'll be the update process.06:36
@scrottierather than people paying us to help them upgrade, they'll pay us to make the madness stop.06:37
elninodon't become like microsoft06:39
@scrottiealso, if you upgrade any hardware, it'll automatically invalidate your license and wG will refuse to start up.06:39
@scrottieand if you have the Home version of wG, you won't be able to change the site style.06:40
elninono.06:41
elninomake the bad person stop.06:41
elninolovely isn't it? http://pastebin.com/eTBysjd806:50
@scrottieheh, that looks like how a lot of my days are spent.06:51
elninotoo much fun. thanks for your help scrottie!07:20
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+Radix-wrkAnyone able to remind me where archived articles go? (and how I get them back if I forgot to change the default archive time for a collaboration forum)08:33
@scrottieI could look and try to guess...08:36
+Radix-wrkI found this posted by koen (I think) ages ago - http://www.webgui.org/bazaar/change-archive-status-op-posts-in-batch08:37
@scrottielooking at /data/WebGUI/lib/Workflow/Activity/ArchiveOldStories.pm, the status is changed to 'archived' (probably from 'published')08:57
+Radix-wrkyeah, that's what the script seems to do too - though it didn't seem to work at all from what I can see08:58
+Radix-wrkIf I look at the sql and do a 'SELECT * from wgdb.asset where parentId = "xxx"; where xxx is the assetId of the collaboration system it shows a handful of posts, but they're all still marked as 'published'09:00
+Radix-wrkyet the collaboration system on the website is empty09:01
@scrottieArchiveOldStories.pm searches lineage09:01
@scrottieif you wanted to take a shotgun approach, you could do:  update assetData set status='published' where status='archived';09:02
@scrottiebut please make backups before doing anything like that.09:02
+Radix-wrkwill do :)09:03
@scrottiealso, stop the WebGUI (wreservice.pl --stop modperl) and clear the cache (wgd reset --delcache) first, then restart it after, otherwise cached data will be used09:03
+Radix-wrkI'm using an ancient version of webgui too unfortunately - 7.0.809:07
@scrottieholy cow.09:10
@scrottiedon't do that!09:10
@scrottieelnino was in here with 7.4 earlier but you win.09:10
@scrottieI don't think that's even remotely secure against SQL injection.  you should probably upgrade that.09:11
@scrottieI was joking about Microsoft-ifying wG earlier and making it auto-update and various other things... but now I'm realizing that we really do have a Microsoft problem.  as long as Windows 98 still runs, people are going to continue using it.  you have to take it out back and shoot it before people will reluctantly upgrade.09:11
@scrottiemaybe the free versions of wG (which is all of them, right now) need a self destruct mechanism built in.09:12
+Radix-wrkI've tried a few times to look at upgrading this one.. but it's used reasonly heavily as our main website - has about 7409 assets, 22000 users09:13
+Radix-wrkWe got acquired last year to boot, so now the future is that some of the content will probably get migrated across and the rest dumped09:14
+Radix-wrkthat's going to take a while, so in the meantime I'm just trying to keep it going as much as I can ;)09:14
@scrottieieeeeeeeeeeeee.09:14
@scrottiemy friends keep asking me if I know Drupal and if I'll help them with their Drupal site.09:15
* scrottie shakes his head sadly09:15
@scrottieit's a cruel, sick world.09:15
+Radix-wrkI've applied some of the sql injection patches manually in the past, but doubt it's got them all09:15
+Radix-wrkit's obscure enough that it might not matter ;)09:15
@scrottieyeah.  last time I went looking, there were no metasploit plugins for it.  but I'm tempted to write some.  that would be kind of a jerk move though wouldn't it?09:16
+Radix-wrk:P09:17
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ckotilYES16:46
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@scrottie?21:54
ckotiljerk move writing a metasploit plugin for webgui22:13
@scrottieheh, ah22:14
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@scrottiewell, besides being a (sketchy) way to get wG consultaints (including PB) some potential business, it would tell sysadmins doing scans about vulnerabilities, which is always a good thing.22:30
@scrottieit's the old to disclose/not disclose debate.22:31
ckotilgood point22:36
ckotili've seen this a few times with products we run. Vendors typically say, '  you have until this date to upgrade, at which point we will disclose the vulnerability'22:37
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eirohello all09:42
eirocan webgui be git backed ? (i need endusers to use GUIs but most of us would edit with vi)09:43
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ckotilwhat's the proper way of adding new web accessible functions to webgui? so that when I perform an upgrade i dont have to hack them back in17:15
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@daviddelikatckotil: any function with a 'www_' prepended can be called via http://site/usr?func=name18:52
ckotilthat's what I've been adding to Asset.pm to do some ajax things19:13
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ckotilis there a better place for those? so that when I upgrade I wont have to add my functions back in19:14
@scrottieckotil, you could in theory put them in a content handler (WebGUI/Content/*) and have them operate on assets using the API (do things to $session->asset)19:33
@scrottieas far as dealing with upgrading, I suggest that you use git.19:33
@scrottiethen you have two options... you can just never commit your changes, but instead 'git stash' them, then 'git pull' to get the latest version, then 'git stash apply' to re-apply your changes.  or else you can commit them, and then 'git pull --rebase' to... well, do just about the same thing, except that your changes would be inside of a commit/commits19:35
@scrottiedepending on what you're doing, the content handler thing may not work so well19:35
ckotilok. 19:52
ckotilim not very comfortable with git. 19:52
ckotili thought there may be a way to have a .pm file containing the www_ functions in WebGUI/lib/WebGUI/something.pm19:52
@scrottieyou could do that, and then 'use' them to pull the logic in.19:55
@scrottiethat's what Asset.pm does with AssetVersion.pm and the other Asset*.pm files19:56
@daviddelikatckotil:  you can put the content handler in a seperate code area...19:57
@daviddelikat   /data/local/lib or somethign like that19:58
@scrottieyup.  projects we work on generally work that way.  preload.cusom lists the other directory(ies) to look in, and project-specific code goes elsewhere.  if a content handler works, that's a good way to keep things organized.19:58
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ckotilok ill try it. the 'use' idea doesn't too bad either if content handlers dont work20:39
ckotilthanks20:39
@daviddelikatI really like the content handler idea21:19
@daviddelikatI've been toying with how to make WG more ajaxable for a while now21:19
@daviddelikatI never thought of that one...21:20
ckotilI recently added some methods to Asset.pm www_addKeyword www_dropKeyword www_getKeywords www_getTagCloud21:20
ckotilit's become really easy for authenticated users to tag assets with keywords21:22
@daviddelikatwith the content handler you can just push a piece of JSON to the handler and let it do all inds of stuff21:22
ckotilim looking to expose more formerly ?func=edit stuff in the frontend21:22
ckotilwe're having a bad problem of old, and 'stale' content being forgotten. so Im also writing up some custom workflows to flag content as expired, and needing review. then another workflow to contact the owner. then the content owners can decide what to do with the stale content21:23
@scrottiedelikat, preaction did a bunch of work on an AJAX-RPC-API.  it's sitting in a fork on his github.21:45
@scrottieI'd love to see that finished.21:45
@scrottieas much as I hate people using mixins so that they don't actually have to *design* anything and instead just make a mess of code all over the place, they could have some application here.21:47
@scrottiedoing the Moose 'around' thing on www_edit or whatever in various assets would let people extend things.21:48
@scrottieI also keep talking about using server side JS hooks to do something similar.  that would be more explicit.21:48
ckotilheh, server side JS21:49
ckotilwas bound to happen tho21:50
@scrottieyeah, if I'm going to do that, I should support perl and JS.  the Survey "Expression Engine" does Perl, but some work was done to support JS by client request so that front-end strong people could do stuff with it more readily.21:55
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vanjwilsonweird problem, I'm updating a site someone else templated, and I added a jQuery getJSON call to document.ready to prepopulate a site-wide jQuery UI autocomplete search bar, and now whenever anyone logs in, the first thing they see is the raw JSON data coming back. If you change the URL, to any other page, the site is fine--only happens immediately after login, when a user is redirected from /home to an inside page names /dashboar19:03
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CIA-92webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.10 * r2d83f3c / lib/WebGUI/Asset/Shortcut.pm : Add the same kind of performance data for Shortcuts, as AssetProxy macros. - http://git.io/wQu5wg02:43
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ckotili wonder what kind of auth vanjwilson is using15:30
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three18tiso, what is the recommended platform for running WebGUI?  I've tried every way I can think of to install/compile on Ubuntu 12.04 but have had no luck.  Should I be installing on another distro?22:39
haargplainblack primarily uses rhel/centos for hosting, but also os x for dev.22:41
haargwhat issues did you have installing it?22:41
three18tiwell, when I installed from ubuntu packages, apache refused to start citing a segfault; trying to install the 9.2(I think, it's the last one that was released for ubuntu) WRE I get the error "-bash: /data/wre/sbin/perl does not exist", but I think that may be because I was trying to install 32 bit WRE on 64bit os.  and on source install I got the error "Cannot load /etc/apache2/modules/mod_apreq2.so into server: /etc/apache2/modules/m22:44
three18tiod_apreq2.so cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" which would indicate to me that I didn't install mod_perl properly.22:44
three18timy preferred method would be to install from packages, but I'm really open to any ideas.22:48
haargthe segfault is a bit odd.  not sure why that would happen.22:50
three18tiyea, that's what I thought.  I was doing it on an AWS instance if that makes a difference.  I could try it on a KVM VM, but I don't think the hypervisor is at issue.23:03
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@scrottiethree18ti, you might try the "source install" instructions.00:19
@scrottiewhen you said you installed from ubuntu packages, you mean you installed the webgui package?00:19
@scrottieor you installed apache, modperl, etc from packages but webgui from source?00:21
@scrottieI have an installer for 8 that I'm testing that supports Debian so far.00:26
three18tiscrottie, the very first time I installed the webgui package from repos, which automatically included apache, modperl, etc.  when I did that I got the apache segfault.  the fourth (or fifth) time I had previously had trouble getting some of the perl modules to compile, so I installed the same list of dependencies as when I installed from repos, then attempted to compile and install.  the third or fourth time I couldn't get all of the 01:00
three18tiperl modules to compile.01:00
three18tiscrottie, I'd like to give the 8 installer a shot.  I found this on github https://gist.github.com/2318748 but it doesn't look like it was written by you.01:10
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@scrottiethree18ti, I saw that someone compiled a 64bit version of the WRE for some Linux.  I don't remember which.  that was on the forums recently.04:38
@scrottiethat may be one way to go.04:38
@scrottieif the problem with the source install is that modules won't compile, then it probably makes sense to just deal with that and make them compile.04:38
@scrottieif you have perl 5.10.0, it's time to upgrade.  that should help a lot.04:38
@scrottieand nope, that's xdanger's installer.  mine is based on his.04:39
@scrottieI wanted to make it ask for confirmation before doing things that people might not want done.  and wanted to be able to add support for CentOS and maybe later more stuff.04:39
@scrottieand set up nginx and the various things that the addsite.pl in the WRE does.04:40
@scrottiehttps://gist.github.com/297355804:40
@scrottiethat uses 'cpanm' to install Task::WebGUI to install the module modules.  if you have modules that won't build properly, then they still won't build properly.04:41
@scrottieit did work on a fresh Debian install for me though so it might work for you.04:41
@scrottiesorry I vanished earlyer.  today was gnarly.04:43
three18tiok, I might give debian a shot.  what version 6?  I'm was on ubuntu 12.04 so I'm on perl -v 5.14.2.  04:51
three18tiit's all good.  thanks for the pointers.  my day was pretty gnarly too so I can empathize, then you gotta talk to these hacks online looking for free help. ;)04:52
@scrottiewheezy/sid it says05:03
@scrottieheh, nope, don't gotta.  bug tickets on the other hand I gotta do.  iee!05:04
three18tiyea, I think that is the newest.05:15
three18tiwell, thanks scrottie.  :)  C'mon, there's only 2 pages of bug reports ;)05:17
@scrottieon wG8?  or wheezy?06:32
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three18tiawesome.  scrottie your installer worked beautifully on ubuntu 12.04.  took just over 2 hrs on an amazon instance (had some trouble running the installer a second time, just needed to drop the DB).  admin interface isn't working, but I can work on that tomorrow.09:30
three18tibed time now.  thanks again.09:30
@scrottieno shit.12:40
@scrottiethat thing is kind of like a Choose Your Own Adventure.  in that spirit, it could certainly try to deal with databases that already exists and may or may not be already loaded.12:41
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ckotil_what setting tells spectre where to post workflows to?19:57
ckotil_WORKFLOW: Posting workflow instance CJDt7IrEew3z-b-MgIlxYA to http://some.host.foo:80/.19:57
ckotil_i can't find where some.host.foo is set19:57
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sbaurdoesn't it use the first host listed in sitenames in the site's conf file?19:58
ckotilyeah! that's it. thanks20:00
ckotili had thought i changed that already, but apparently not.20:00
sbaurglad i could finally answer a question here :-) seems like I'm usually just asking them20:01
ckotilya. it feels good20:53
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+danny_mkalright scrottie, I have updated my selenium github repo with new tests.  I still have to make sure it behaves smoothly but most of the tests are done.  Remember, these are all basic tests but they work.  I start taking some time to get the OAuth2 stuff done22:52
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three18tiscrottie, well, I ran it initially without the config file directory so It puked on me when I couldn't load the nginx and mysql config files, so I created the directory and config files then re-ran the script, when it got to the point where it tried to create the DB if failed out because the DB already existed; so I dropped the db, ran the script a third time and it ran wonderfully.18:41
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@scrottiethree18ti, ah, I've been doing 'git clone' to test it/run it.  it should bundle those files with itself.22:38
three18tioh, I see, you can clone the gist.  git://gist.github.com/2973558.git23:11
three18ti...  duh.  Somewhere, I knew that.23:11
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CIA-93wgdev: Patrick Donelan survey_ee_bug * ra0912af / lib/WGDev/Command/Bug.pm : Added command used to find epass bug - http://git.io/4_9xcA06:11
CIA-93wgdev: Patrick Donelan snapshot * r9565d71 / lib/WGDev/Command/Snapshot.pm : Added 'wgd snapshot' command - http://git.io/HhqxJw06:11
CIA-93wgdev: Graham Knop master * r20bccdc / Changes : v0.1207160 (+11 more commits...) - http://git.io/w8Q8_g06:11
CIA-93wgdev: Patrick Donelan netc * rb99d7c1 / lib/WGDev/Command/Base/Webflow.pm : Improved diagnostics (+31 more commits...) - http://git.io/JCsvAQ06:11
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CIA-93webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.10 * rca78e1d / (2 files in 2 dirs): Spectre is touchy about things that die in perl. Fix the UpdateAssetSubscribers workflow activity to catch if the group in the asset does not exist. - http://git.io/E2DdvQ06:52
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three18tiso is the admin console and addon?05:40
three18tiI see when I click "Turn Admin On!" I get a ton of 404 errors: http://paste.scsys.co.uk/207892 but all those files (or at least the ones I've spot checked) exist. so that can't be it.05:45
three18tiI can't seem to get nginx to work (it says that nginx /data/nginx.conf is not a valid operation, adding a -c to that line in webgui.sh resolves the error and starts nginx, but it only gives me the default page... I wonder if that's because my "hostname" changed when I rebooted my AWS instance...)05:46
three18timmkay...06:09
three18tilooks like I needed to add an arbitrary server name under the individual server settings for the domain (it was /data/WebGUI/etc/www_example_com.nginx line 4)06:10
three18tithen I added the -c paramenter to /data/webgui.sh (so it reads nginx -c /data/nginx.conf) 06:11
three18tikilled plackup and nginx (ps aux | grep plackup | perl -F'\s+' -anE 'say `kill -9 $F[1]`') then was able to start it and load the admin interface.06:11
three18tiso cool :)06:11
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vanjwilsonanyone know if the new WRE 0.9.4 will be available for Ubuntu 64bit?23:59
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@scrottiehi vanjwilson.00:49
@scrottieI think there was a thread on the forums recently.00:50
@scrottiedon't remember.00:50
@scrottiethere was a thread on what needed to be done to make wre-source build on some 64 bit architecture.  Ubuntu should be pretty similar.00:50
@scrottieI talked to perlDreamer not long back and he said that he didn't have the spare time to do 64 bit builds but of course if a client pays us to do them, we'll post them and share.00:51
@scrottiewhy do I never see the "*** Signoff:" lines.00:56
@scrottieit's like I'm blind to those.00:56
CIA-92webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.10 * r8aaa37e / (2 files in 2 dirs): Fix a bug in the EMS related to showing badge data when the badge data does not have related badge groups. - http://git.io/TIBdpw01:22
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ckotilre: updating rank when performing a drag and drop which calls www_setContentPosition. I modified that function to set the rank of the children based on the contentPosition. 17:27
ckotilusers wanted the drag and drop to be reflected in the order of the table of contents (nav asset) on each page layout17:28
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sbaurScrottie: Ahoy Matey!21:04
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@scrottieavast ye, sbaur, ya filthy sea dog!22:23
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CIA-93webgui: Daniel Maldonado master * r92b7463 / selenium/test.pl : added install parameter (+6 more commits...) - http://git.io/gRIYaA21:55
ckotilcompletely slipped my mind about talk like a pirate day22:01
ckotillast night i saw a twitter post about the navy referring to it tho22:01
@scrottieI didn't really have any social contact yesterday... waste of a good TLAPD22:07
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CIA-93webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.10 * re046e5a / (8 files in 7 dirs): Fix rendering of the carousel inside of a Story. Fixes bug #12386 - http://git.io/htP1ew00:02
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elninoanyone around?18:55
elninoI want to do a report of used templates for pagelayouts. I don't see a table for pagelayouts. I can look at assets for a classname, but is the style template foundin wobject table?18:57
elninoah.. Layout talbe. 18:58
elninowhat are all considered wobjects?18:59
elninodashboard, folder, messageboard, page and wiki?19:01
elninook I have a plan. hope it works.19:27
elninobye19:27
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@scrottiedelikat, when I comment on your pull requests on github, do you get a notification...?05:40
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@daviddelikatscrottie:  I got an email; I just have not looked into it.15:10
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ckotilis the edit asset interface a template?19:07
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@scrottieckotil, nope.  those forms get built dynamically.  there is a style template for them somewhere, I think.  assets can of course override the www_edit method and do custom edit forms with a template that templates in the form elements.22:33
@scrottieassets that get edited by users rather than admins tend to do that.22:33
@scrottieit would be nice if they all optionally had an edit template.22:33
ckotilok we're starting to move some of the edit functionality into the www_view of the site, was just looking for inspiration22:36
@scrottiepreaction's JSON RPC API is really the way to go.23:04
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ckotilscrottie: ive never been able to find preaction's JSON RPC API. you got a link?15:52
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@scrottieckotil, yeah, I'm not seeing a likely branch in preaction's repo either, now that I look.21:51
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ckotilHas anyone pulled off a 'most popular asset' similiar to the wiki asset's most popular? i see that the WIkiPage table has a views row, but nothing like that in assetData for other assets18:09
sbaurCould you do it with metadata? just thinking out loud...18:10
ckotilit would be difficult. here's why18:11
ckotilwhen do you increment?18:11
ckotilwith the wiki you have only a couple ways to access a document. search, or a link from most popular18:11
ckotileasy enough. 18:11
ckotilbut for say articles, you can access an article directly via  url, search, in a layout18:11
ckotilmany ways18:11
sbaurtrue...18:12
ckotili was kind of hoping to leverage passive analytics for this18:12
ckotilbut it always seems to be such a huge data set18:12
sbaurhaven't done anything with that, so I don't know what it can and can't do18:12
ckotilprobably ahve to do some post processing on the PA to get what i want and generate a new most popular once a day or a few times a day18:12
ckotiland further complicating things is , that last time i think i enabled PA on my production site, the server couldn't keep up. load went through the roof until i killed off PA18:13
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@scrottiepassive analytics, maybe.18:33
@scrottieif you turn that on and query its table.18:33
@scrottieoh, heh.  18:33
ckotilselect count(assetId),url from passiveLog group by assetId, url order by count(assetId) DESC limit 10;18:33
@scrottieyou already said that.18:33
ckotilthat one did ok18:34
ckotiltho i think ill want to make a macro out of it so i can do more with it. like scope the results to a certain branch18:34
ckotiland by time18:34
@scrottieperlDreamer did some work on making that faster but I don't know if it made into the mainline wG18:34
ckotilbc obviously / has the most hits18:34
ckotilah nice18:34
ckotiloh but that query ^ , 30 seconds to run on 600K rows18:36
ckotiltho if you modify the query to just hte last month. it takes 1 second. not too shabby18:40
@scrottieprobably don't want to do that every page view though.18:51
@scrottiedo it in a workflow activity and then just pull data from it.18:52
@scrottieselect into another table.18:52
ckotilyeah good call18:54
ckotili think this will work. thanks18:54
@scrottiecool!18:56
ckotili just hope the site doesnt get brought to a screeching halt tongiht during the PA processing 18:59
* ckotil let's the oncall know18:59
@scrottiewell, doing a month of data at a time sounds like a good idea, if that is quick.  but 30 seconds shouldn't raise an alarm either.19:00
@scrottietest first?19:04
@scrottieoh, the logging of PA data19:04
ckotil  yeah19:09
@scrottieI wonder why that would be any slower than any of the 200 other queries wG does on a single hit.19:10
ckotilthe table is hige19:11
ckotilhuge19:11
@scrottieare there indexes that you can turn off?19:11
@scrottieon that table?19:11
* ckotil looks19:11
@scrottiewow, nope.  if there aren't indexes, inserting *should* always be quick, no matter how large it is.19:12
ckotilinserting is fast19:12
@scrottiebut MySQL constantly surprises me, and not in a good way =P19:12
ckotilthat's not the problem19:12
@scrottieupgrade it to innodb from myisam?19:13
ckotilit's myisam19:13
@scrottieokay, I'm confused.19:13
ckotilthe slowdown comes when processing the PA19:13
ckotiland it's a daily workflow task19:13
ckotilor at least in the past I saw things get slow. dunno how it will do tonight19:13
ckotiltime will tell19:13
ckotilprocessing throws it into buckets.19:14
@scrottiebut you said that that was quick if you only did the last month... 1 secoknd19:14
ckotilohhhh19:14
@scrottieI don't know much about this system.19:14
@scrottiePA19:14
ckotilyeah look athe query , timestamp > 134651359619:14
@scrottiethere probably should be an index on that timestamp field19:14
ckotilwhen you query for only records within the las tmonth it goes fast19:14
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@scrottieSaTuRdAy!20:04
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@scrottieSuNdAy!  almost.09:03
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