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SDuensin | Morning. | 16:54 |
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zylopfa | Good morning Sir | 17:09 |
SDuensin | Oooo - "Sir" | 17:13 |
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+BartJol | getLineage (from AssetLineage) should only get the latest revision, right? | 18:04 |
Haarg | there are options for what status to allow iirc | 18:05 |
Haarg | but without stuff like that specified, yes | 18:05 |
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+BartJol | ok, thanks | 18:11 |
+BartJol | because I have a view that seems to return multiple instances of an asset | 18:13 |
+BartJol | the is an orderByClause with the revisiondate | 18:13 |
+BartJol | so that might need some more debugging on the custom code | 18:14 |
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CIA-82 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r1cc7ac2 / (lib/WebGUI/Form/List.pm lib/WebGUI/Form/SelectBox.pm): Fix some POD spelling areas. - https://github.com/plainblack/webgui/commit/1cc7ac2578a607cc4a5560b8eb31073d589ae98d | 20:28 |
CIA-82 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * ra3ff0fb / (docs/changelog/7.x.x.txt lib/WebGUI/HTML.pm t/HTML.t): Fix replacements (again). Add tests to test words and sequences with punctuation. Fixes bug #12208. - https://github.com/plainblack/webgui/commit/a3ff0fb7a5e51ccd6033a9965e85a48f73ec7eea | 20:28 |
CIA-82 | webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.9 * r662f6bf / (docs/changelog/7.x.x.txt lib/WebGUI/HTML.pm t/HTML.t): Fix replacements (again). Add tests to test words and sequences with punctuation. Fixes bug #12208. - https://github.com/plainblack/webgui/commit/662f6bf65c262aef3a0d912eff0946d48c7ff3a9 | 20:30 |
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CIA-82 | webgui: Colin Kuskie WebGUI8 * r37b8d15 / lib/WebGUI/Session/Id.pm : Add a little POD to the decimated Session/Id.pm module. - https://github.com/plainblack/webgui/commit/37b8d15c0f0b365ad525357b05b328ae9466a25b | 21:10 |
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SquOnk | Greetings. | 22:00 |
SquOnk | perlDreamer: Long time no see | 22:23 |
SquOnk | Question. I have a Page Layout /foo with an Asset Report /foo/bar in it. | 22:30 |
SquOnk | Said Asset Report is set to paginate. | 22:31 |
SquOnk | The Page Layout /foo has some other content. When I click on any of the pagination links, I end up in /foo/bar. Is there a way to remain in /foo *but* have the Asset Report paginate? | 22:31 |
+perlDreamer | no | 22:31 |
+perlDreamer | it's called asset focus | 22:32 |
+perlDreamer | if you do something other than www_view on an asset (including pagination), then the asset itself handles that and you "lose" the page level view | 22:32 |
SquOnk | :/ | 22:34 |
SquOnk | What if the rest of the content in /foo becomes hardcoded in /foo/bar style template. | 22:35 |
SquOnk | ? | 22:36 |
+perlDreamer | if /foo/bar uses that style template, then it would "look like" you were still on foo | 22:42 |
+perlDreamer | Using javascript, you could make a funky ajax call to manually paginate the content | 22:42 |
+perlDreamer | but it wouldn't be easy | 22:43 |
+perlDreamer | and it would likely be fragile, too | 22:43 |
SquOnk | perlDreamer: That's what I figured... | 22:50 |
SquOnk | perlDreamer: The use case is a main page for a multimedia collection page. They want to have a "main story" (manually placed Shortcut), a menu sporting the sections (Navigation, piece of cake), and a list of all available stories per topic (Asset Report, paginated). | 22:51 |
@preaction | it wouldn't be difficult: ?func=ajaxInlineView;pn=2 | 22:52 |
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@preaction | in theory you could even do that in an iframe | 22:55 |
@preaction | hmm... but ?func=ajaxInlineView wouldn't be sticky, so iframe wouldn't work | 22:56 |
@preaction | so the asset report would need a blank style template of some kind | 22:56 |
SquOnk | What's ajaxInlineView? That's the AJAX thing I have to code, right? | 22:56 |
@preaction | no, it exists in WebGUI already | 22:57 |
SquOnk | preaction: Oh, really? | 22:57 |
SquOnk | preaction: Please tell me what to read. | 22:57 |
@preaction | it's not documented anywhere | 22:57 |
SquOnk | preaction: Does it work in 7.9? | 22:57 |
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@preaction | http://www.webgui.org/promote/inthenews?func=ajaxInlineView <- contrast the difference between the normal view | 22:57 |
@preaction | it's existed for a long time, so yes | 22:58 |
SquOnk | preaction: Each pagination link on the Asset Report should have that appended? | 22:59 |
@preaction | no. the pagination links will need to be javascript that uses ajax with ?func=ajaxInlineView to update the content | 22:59 |
@preaction | if you just want them to remain links, an iframe with a blank style will work | 23:00 |
SquOnk | preaction: The Asset Report has to pull URLs, title and images from Articles, so a blank style will not work. | 23:05 |
@preaction | i'm not sure how the two are related. i mean that the Asset Report inside the iframe should not have the site style template around it, because it's in an iframe | 23:06 |
@preaction | the asset report still has its own report template which displays the URLs, titles, and images from the Articles its reporting on | 23:07 |
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SquOnk | preaction: I see it now. I wonder if the designer/JS-programmer will be able to do so. | 23:09 |
@preaction | you don't need to ping me with every reply | 23:09 |
SquOnk | I'm used to it, sorry if it bothers you. | 23:10 |
SquOnk | preaction: How would you define what ajaxInlineView does, in one sentence? | 23:23 |
@preaction | it writes view() without the style template, which is www_view() | 23:24 |
SquOnk | preaction: Thanks | 23:25 |
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CIA-82 | webgui: Doug Bell WebGUI8 * r1992f33 / (2 files in 2 dirs): fix adding new WikiPage assets - https://github.com/plainblack/webgui/commit/1992f33de99ce9e961c465e301bf93d3a50151d6 | 00:36 |
CIA-82 | webgui: Doug Bell WebGUI8 * raabb464 / lib/WebGUI/Asset.pm : | 00:36 |
CIA-82 | webgui: allow edit templates without attached forms | 00:36 |
CIA-82 | webgui: This lets authors not use FormBuilder unless they really want to... for now. - https://github.com/plainblack/webgui/commit/aabb4648d653d4747d496f89751a900d244f7c19 | 00:36 |
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elnino | hello again! | 00:38 |
elnino | my captcha is missing the image... where are they supposed to be? in the /uploads? | 00:38 |
elnino | oh. maybe I'm supposed to do this? http://www.webgui.org/wiki/enabling-recaptcha | 00:39 |
elnino | the captcha i'm looking at is on a dataform v7.9.33 | 00:40 |
@preaction | they should be in /uploads/temp, but check the error log | 00:46 |
elnino | but that's only if I configured recaptcha, right? or is recaptcha an alternative to what you use in webgui by default? | 00:46 |
@preaction | recaptcha is an alternative to the default | 00:51 |
@preaction | most would consider it a better solution | 00:51 |
elnino | oh.. good to know. Thanks preaction! | 00:51 |
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+perlDreamer | preaction: I'm working on changing Post to use getEditTemplate | 01:06 |
+perlDreamer | this commit 1992f33de99ce9e961c465e301bf93d3a50151d6 broke mobile style processing on the edit page for the WikiPage | 01:08 |
@preaction | then so did a lot of other places | 01:10 |
@scrottie | I need to set up a fake recaptcha-look-alike that only generates captchas that are olde tyme insults. | 01:10 |
+perlDreamer | are you opposed to a getStyleTemplateId which is return $self->session->style->useMobileStyle ? mobile : regular; ? | 01:12 |
@preaction | no, that should work fine | 01:13 |
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CIA-82 | webgui: Colin Kuskie WebGUI8 * r4ac894d / (2 files in 2 dirs): Add a method that returns either the standard style template or the mobile style template based on the Session. - https://github.com/plainblack/webgui/commit/4ac894d98174959ff476fdb53ae47756993e0a84 | 02:06 |
+perlDreamer | the whole test suite takes more than 30 minutes to run | 02:06 |
+perlDreamer | that's almost enough time to watch Voltron Force on the DVR | 02:06 |
CIA-82 | webgui: Colin Kuskie WebGUI8 * r469250f / lib/WebGUI/Asset/WikiPage.pm : Update WikiPage to use the right style template. - https://github.com/plainblack/webgui/commit/469250fd76c892e910cf3b8d55feebecc0b638d0 | 02:06 |
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elnino | so if I have a user expriationo set on a group, and they login before they expire. how so I make it so that they can "reup" their status? I'm not selling any subscriptions or anything. just want them to login once in a while. | 05:25 |
@scrottie | someone on this channel was looking at auth login hooks a while back... | 05:26 |
elnino | oh so nothign in webgui.. the admin settings make it look like it will reup automatically, or can be configured to do such. | 05:27 |
@scrottie | I'd have to investigate... | 05:30 |
@scrottie | perhaps | 05:30 |
@scrottie | that was on the subject of other login-actions | 05:30 |
elnino | don't worry. I'll just try a short expiration and see what happens. | 05:30 |
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zylopfa | Hello WebGUIans | 13:59 |
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SDuensin | Greetings. | 16:48 |
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zylopfa | Hello Webguians | 18:03 |
* BartJol is having that strange feeling of deja vu | 18:04 | |
zylopfa | Haa! | 18:04 |
+BartJol | strange stuff today, renamed a method with a dutch name and then suddenly my code worked | 18:06 |
zylopfa | haa thats medicin-man work | 18:07 |
zylopfa | Ik hou van koeien! | 18:07 |
+BartJol | well, the english version did seem to work yesterday | 18:07 |
zylopfa | thats trange as hell | 18:08 |
zylopfa | is it in webgui? | 18:08 |
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+BartJol | yes, well custom code | 18:19 |
zylopfa | ahh fair enough | 18:19 |
+BartJol | so, it is late enough, dinnertime | 18:27 |
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SquOnk | Greetings. | 18:28 |
zylopfa | Greetings SquOnk | 18:29 |
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CIA-82 | webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.9 * r8b505b1 / t/Asset/Asset.t : Add cleanup code for newly added tests for canAdd being called as a method. - https://github.com/plainblack/webgui/commit/8b505b1ee49e28a0692d678c8baad980e31429eb | 20:00 |
CIA-82 | webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.9 * r9c8679c / (5 files in 4 dirs): When a Sku is purged, delete it from all carts. Better handling for cartItems whose assets have been deleted. Fixes bug #12213 - https://github.com/plainblack/webgui/commit/9c8679cd4edbe71fcf95fd3cf17ea8bede799c4a | 20:00 |
zylopfa | Gogogog Colin!! | 20:01 |
CIA-82 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r44f62c9 / t/Asset/Asset.t : Add cleanup code for newly added tests for canAdd being called as a method. - https://github.com/plainblack/webgui/commit/44f62c98844c6413884a07f1ecee1a53aa80d8f5 | 20:01 |
CIA-82 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r3b7dd52 / (5 files in 4 dirs): When a Sku is purged, delete it from all carts. Better handling for cartItems whose assets have been deleted. Fixes bug #12213 - https://github.com/plainblack/webgui/commit/3b7dd524db09cee234d8b4dd400879d1859da026 | 20:01 |
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SquOnk | Greetings. | 22:25 |
* scrottie waves to SquOnk | 22:26 | |
SquOnk | scrottie: Hey there | 22:26 |
@scrottie | howdy | 22:26 |
SquOnk | How much karma can I get on my birthday? ;-) | 22:26 |
SquOnk | 'cause I need a bug fixed and all... He he he | 22:26 |
@scrottie | if they ever give me access to that server, I'm going to set up a WebGUI Karma currency exchange and give myself a cut of all transactions. which is to say that they are never going to give me access to that server. | 22:27 |
SquOnk | LOL | 22:27 |
@scrottie | if you're ever in Phoenix, I'll buy ya a beer. | 22:27 |
SquOnk | That can be arranged. Not gonna happen today, though. | 22:28 |
@scrottie | there was some micropayment service for buying people beers kicking around but I haven't heard a reference to it in a while and I forgot where it is... | 22:28 |
@scrottie | that should probably be wired in to karma as well | 22:28 |
@scrottie | karma->beer gateway | 22:29 |
SquOnk | scrottie: Well, I did try to solve the bug by myself, but am afraid I don't know enough about and don't want to screw up something :) | 22:34 |
@scrottie | https://gist.github.com/1121034 ... been meaning to do that for about a year now... | 22:49 |
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@scrottie | tell me again which bug you're stuck on? I promised knowmad I'd look at http://www.webgui.org/use/bugs/tracker/12198 when I got the chance | 23:14 |
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SquOnk | scrottie: 12176 | 23:15 |
haarg | scrottie, i suppose i should have put my iob script up somewhere. i made about the same thing a few years back. | 23:18 |
haarg | although it probably doesn't work since the csrf protection went in | 23:19 |
@scrottie | not many things actually check the csrf token even though the token gets automatically added to forms. I think. | 23:19 |
@scrottie | I think the checking is manual. | 23:20 |
haarg | it is | 23:20 |
@scrottie | next step is to set something up to ping me and clock me out when the 'net goes down. | 23:20 |
haarg | i don't remember if logins got that protections added to them | 23:20 |
@scrottie | or when I close the laptop after forgetting to clock out. | 23:20 |
@scrottie | would be silly if they didn't... | 23:21 |
haarg | could be done automatically for all post requests, but that would probably break some things as well | 23:21 |
@scrottie | I haven't looked at the reportin/admin side of the IOB. will I mess up stats if I update my iob status frequently with a "what I'm working on" type thing? | 23:21 |
@scrottie | WG8 seems like a good time to break that. | 23:22 |
haarg | i didn't think it even kept any stats | 23:22 |
@scrottie | I was only guessing that it did. | 23:22 |
haarg | could also use the csrf protection plack middleware | 23:22 |
haarg | although it relies on html parsing | 23:22 |
SquOnk | Anyone up for cake? | 23:23 |
SquOnk | :) | 23:23 |
@scrottie | munching on coffee cake already but thanks! | 23:23 |
@scrottie | I suppose if people get annoyed at me updating the iob frequently, they can yell at me. | 23:23 |
SquOnk | All right. bbl | 23:24 |
@scrottie | SquOnk, re: 12176, I'd have to do some digging into there. I haven't ever mucked about with shortcuts and the idea of expiring this cache from the target asset sounds scary/ugly, and perlDreamer sounds like he has a lead on how to do it. you can remind me later if you like but right now, I'm hoping perlDreamer fixes it ;) | 23:25 |
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SquOnk | scrottie: Good, thanks. | 00:18 |
SquOnk | bbl | 00:18 |
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sbaur | i tried checking the bug db, but my search fu is weak... In 7.6.35, when I go to search for something in the assetManager, instead of seeing results, I wind up back on the page I was on before going into the asset manager. | 02:17 |
sbaur | and now it's even weirder, it's stopped giving me the search box at all... it's just going straight to the previous page as soon as I click search | 02:17 |
sbaur | Anyone seen something like this before? | 02:18 |
sbaur | getting these 2 errors... 2011/08/02 18:19:02 - ERROR - www.csumathsuccess.org.conf - WebGUI::URL::Content::__ANON__[77] - Can't locate object method "new" via package "WebGUI::Form::CsrfToken" (perhaps you forgot to load "WebGUI::Form::CsrfToken"?) at /data/WebGUI/lib/WebGUI/Content/AssetManager.pm line 603. | 02:20 |
sbaur | 2011/08/02 18:19:02 - WARN - www.csumathsuccess.org.conf - WebGUI::Session::ErrorHandler::security[384] - sbaur (88) connecting from myip attempted to execute an invalid operation: assetManager | 02:20 |
sbaur | oh, and that was "as soon as I click search" the link, not the button | 02:22 |
CIA-82 | webgui: Colin Kuskie WebGUI8 * r6979358 / lib/WebGUI/Asset/Post.pm : Convert Post over to using getEditTemplate. Still need work on autocommit. - https://github.com/plainblack/webgui/commit/6979358d7077eec48424abb7e2f46792799ed6f7 | 02:27 |
sbaur | i need to leave, so i put in a support request for my problem... have a good $appropriateTimeOfDay everyone | 02:29 |
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elnino | hello! I need to do a custom report ona dataform.. or is the dataform, where the data is stored in json? | 08:04 |
elnino | oh yuck.... | 08:10 |
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@scrottie | hmm? | 08:36 |
elnino | hmm me? or hmm in general? | 08:36 |
@scrottie | hmm you | 08:36 |
@scrottie | it is stored in JSON? | 08:37 |
elnino | I found the data in json format. | 08:37 |
elnino | yes. | 08:37 |
elnino | so is the configuration of the dataform. | 08:37 |
elnino | yuck. | 08:37 |
@scrottie | you should see this custom reporting I did off of Survey once... | 08:37 |
elnino | oooh.. yes. | 08:37 |
elnino | hey, scrottie, have you used subscriptions? | 08:46 |
elnino | my client wants people to subscibe to be notified when a page is updated. not quite sure what to look at for that. | 08:46 |
@scrottie | yeah, I have... | 08:47 |
@scrottie | the asset has to support subscriptions, but there's a chunk of code in /data/WebGUI/lib/WebGUI/AssetAspect that various assets pull in to accomplish this. | 08:48 |
@scrottie | or at least there is in 7 | 08:48 |
@scrottie | StoryManager/StoryTopic supports it | 08:49 |
elnino | I don't have access to the code, I'm assuming that th epage layout supports subscriptions....I imagine that he just wants a user to click on something that says "notifiy me when this page is updated" - is that something that can be added to a page layout? | 08:50 |
elnino | I see that the wiki has this feature. | 08:51 |
@scrottie | WikiMaster, WikiPage support it, it looks like | 08:52 |
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elnino | hmm. looks like I can make a security group, and use the group add and group delete macro on each page.. taht would do it too I think. | 08:56 |
elnino | as long as I make a group for each page I create.. silly but if they must have it... | 08:56 |
elnino | is the ^SubscribeNow(); related to this assetaspect subscriptions? | 09:02 |
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vanjwilson | Hey does anyone know how I could change the action URL on a login form, that someone built with <tmpl_var form.header>? I can't find a clear answer in any of the docs. (When I look in the generated markup, that var is adding some hidden session-related fields that I think I need to keep, so just replacing it with hard-coding may not work.) | 16:17 |
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+BartJol | vanjwilson: that last part is very probably true | 16:32 |
+BartJol | is it that you want to redirect after the logged in? | 16:33 |
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+BartJol | then you can look in the settings, there is an option for that | 16:33 |
vanjwilson | thanks bartjol, I will check there | 16:35 |
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+BartJol | vanjwilson: in the User tab: Redirect After Login Url | 16:48 |
vanjwilson | thanks, again--can that be a relative url? (we are testing on a development server that is an a subdomain) | 16:49 |
+BartJol | I believe so | 16:50 |
+BartJol | quite sure actually, but not 100% | 16:51 |
vanjwilson | I just tested a relative URL, worked great (@Bartjol, they should pay you to revise the docs :) | 16:52 |
+BartJol | what documents? | 16:53 |
+BartJol | I am open for receiving money :) | 16:53 |
+BartJol | from most sources | 16:53 |
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SDuensin | Greetings. | 17:34 |
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elnino_ | what asset do I use to allow people to subscribe to an email list.. Is that a newsletter? | 20:44 |
@preaction | most likely a collaboration is what you want | 20:44 |
elnino_ | really? what are your thoughts behind that? cs is what I think of as a blog.... | 20:47 |
elnino_ | hmm. now that I think about that... I have one more question.. is there a macro I can use to display the "latest post" on a pagelayout? | 20:49 |
@scrottie | there should be karma for editing Wiki pages... er, there should already be. just need to work on the karma->beer gateway... | 21:30 |
@scrottie | elnino_, I've seen the SQLReport used to summerize recent posts, but that's dipping in under the hood a bit. | 21:31 |
sbaur | elnino: there may also be a macro in the bazaar for it | 21:31 |
elnino_ | yep, I think you guys are all right, like always. I think cs is the way to go. Thanks for the idea! | 21:35 |
@scrottie | "like always"... heh, you haven't spent enough time talking to me then ;) | 21:48 |
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SquOnk | Greetings | 22:05 |
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SquOnk | I'm going to have a Worklow with a running time of over 5 minutes. Would that be a problem? | 22:05 |
SquOnk | The worklow runs a hairy summarizing query to fill a table that will then be queried trivially from an SQL Query asset. | 22:06 |
@preaction | yes, that's a problem. you should probably use WebGUI::Fork | 22:08 |
SquOnk | preaction: A Workflow that forks? | 22:11 |
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@preaction | if that's what you want, but WebGUI::Fork is a way to fork in WebGUI and see the status of the forked process | 22:12 |
@preaction | workflows aren't allowed to run more than 60 seconds, but a forked process could | 22:12 |
SquOnk | preaction: Hmm. | 22:12 |
@preaction | seriously. that did not need to ping me. | 22:13 |
SquOnk | Sorry | 22:13 |
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@scrottie | preaction, how's the RPC API thing in WebGUI 8? if it isn't done and it isn't clear from looking at the code what direction it needs to go, do you care to debrief me? | 22:37 |
@preaction | scrottie: which one? the Asset one? the ones I did were the AssetHelpers, which are done | 22:38 |
@preaction | the additional RPC stuff is left as a TODO in WebGUI::Admin/updateAsset | 22:39 |
@preaction | right now it only does Rank, which is all I needed for the Tree view | 22:40 |
@scrottie | ah, didn't know there was a plan for anything beyond Asset itself | 22:41 |
@preaction | AssetHelpers are the main bit, there are some eccentricities | 22:41 |
@preaction | though FormBuilder still needs to be refactored, the FormBuilder::Role classes combined into WebGUI::FormBuilder::Base to fix the stupidity I made | 22:42 |
@scrottie | that would make sense for supporting the admin interface but access to asset properties and lineage has the broad applicability I want to see. | 22:43 |
@scrottie | I'll check out the TODO | 22:43 |
@preaction | getAssetProperties is in there too, iirc | 22:43 |
@scrottie | bitchin'. | 22:43 |
@preaction | er.. www_getAssetData looks like | 22:44 |
@scrottie | feel free to shout random thoughts at me to write down | 22:46 |
@preaction | a simple JS API around the whole thing would be awesome | 22:50 |
@preaction | updateAsset should be able to do any asset data, i think we discussed this one a few months ago | 22:50 |
SquOnk | If I have an Article's assetId, what macro can I use to get the URL and the title? | 22:59 |
@preaction | the new AssetProperty macro | 23:09 |
SquOnk | Right. | 23:41 |
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SDuensin | Greetings! | 18:24 |
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+BartJol | howdy | 18:29 |
xootom | hi there | 18:29 |
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xootom | do assets always have to live somewhere on the asset tree? the reason I ask is I'm trying to work out the best way of giving all users on a website their own calendar | 19:16 |
xootom | if i create a new instance of a calendar for each user i guess they need to be in a unique group to give that group (themselves) editing rights so they can manage events on their calendar | 19:18 |
xootom | or should I use one calendar and having view rights to events to "owner" like with thingy | 19:19 |
xootom | I think i've answered my own question as the latter would work and be more maintainable | 19:30 |
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@scrottie | xootom, sometimes things will get thrown into a container just for the sake of somewhere to put them, and to keep them together. that container doesn't have to be viewable by anyone. it doesn't have to be a PageLayout. it can be a Folder. | 20:24 |
@scrottie | but yeah, it really does have to have a parent. | 20:25 |
xootom | I've been thinking some more about this, i could create a unique calendar for each user when they register, but this'd lose the ability of showing group events | 20:28 |
xootom | but if I give normal users the ability to only see their own events on a shared calendar I guess they'd lose this anyway | 20:29 |
xootom | perhaps using 1 calendar, if regular users could only create private events but see any other events they have permission to see | 20:35 |
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+perlDreamer | xootom, you can use iCal to subscribe calendar to one another | 20:38 |
+perlDreamer | and they all obey WebGUI permission on a per-calendar and per-event level | 20:38 |
xootom | if there were say a few thousand users, all members of one of a few hundred groups, would that create an overhead, is the ical thing more like a cron job? | 20:43 |
xootom | like fetching an rss feed | 20:44 |
xootom | or is it on demand | 20:44 |
+perlDreamer | the ical updater runs as a workflow periodically, as a WebGUI Scheduler task | 20:45 |
+perlDreamer | so, like a cron job | 20:45 |
xootom | i wonder if it'd be possible to set up the relationships between calendars automatically, i.e. if you join a group that owns a calendar, your calendar subscribes to its calendar | 20:47 |
xootom | does the event managment system generate an ical feed, would be a good way of linking the two | 21:02 |
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CIA-82 | webgui: Graham Knop WebGUI8 * r361f60c / lib/WebGUI/Upgrade/Script.pm : better upgrade script name detection - http://bit.ly/oFH2Ip | 21:28 |
CIA-82 | webgui: Graham Knop WebGUI8 * r9996f68 / t/AssetHelper/Product/ImportCSV.t : don't modify test file - http://bit.ly/orxipj | 21:28 |
haarg | perlDreamer, i'm checking on those test failures | 21:30 |
haarg | sbaur, did you ever get any help with those errors you mentioned in here the other day? | 21:31 |
sbaur | we finally figured it out haarg. Thanks for checking | 21:32 |
+perlDreamer | EMS does not generate an iCal feed | 21:51 |
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CIA-82 | webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.9 * r8682d22 / docs/gotcha.txt : Fix version labeling problem. - http://bit.ly/prCKBO | 22:00 |
@scrottie | preaction's last day is today. I haven't been told this directly, but judging from his recent activities, it seems that he has had the chance to persue an awesome opportunity, programming games, something I know to be near and dear to his otherwise black heart. | 22:36 |
@scrottie | you kicked some serious butt on WebGUI 8 and you'll be missed. | 22:38 |
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@scrottie | ~> | 22:51 |
@scrottie | ~> | 22:51 |
@scrottie | ~> | 22:51 |
@scrottie | ahem. sorry. | 22:51 |
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ckotil | ah | 23:53 |
ckotil | Thanks for everything preaction | 23:53 |
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xootom | thanks for your patience preaction, you will be missed! | 23:57 |
sbaur | preaction: it's been a pleasure working with you and good luck with the new gig | 23:57 |
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+perlDreamer | preaction: thanks for many, many awesome years of hackery | 03:06 |
@preaction | thank you all for being awesome and helping out | 03:13 |
@preaction | i'll still stick around here for awhile anyway | 03:13 |
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CIA-82 | webgui: Colin Kuskie WebGUI8 * r32a3225 / lib/WebGUI/Asset/Story.pm : Update Story to use getEditTemplate - http://bit.ly/pyY1Qq | 08:14 |
CIA-82 | webgui: Colin Kuskie WebGUI8 * rfe2aa2f / lib/WebGUI/Asset/Story.pm : Don't need www_edit anymore, either. - http://bit.ly/pX4b6K | 08:14 |
CIA-82 | webgui: Colin Kuskie WebGUI8 * r0af0bf6 / lib/WebGUI/Asset/WikiPage.pm : Remove www_edit from WikiPage and rely on the master class instead. - http://bit.ly/pZ33pK | 08:14 |
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SquOnk | Greetings. | 17:31 |
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SquOnk | I have a use case for the Asset Report where I'd like to filter on a given Asset's *parent*. | 17:36 |
SquOnk | I'm trying to figure out how to include parentId as an option in the WHERE clause. | 17:37 |
SquOnk | Where should I look? | 17:37 |
ckotil | can you use a macro in the query? | 17:39 |
SquOnk | ckotil: I mean the Asset Report's query builder. | 17:39 |
SquOnk | ckotil: You get to pick 'What to look for?' (WebGUI::Asset or specialized things) | 17:40 |
SquOnk | ckotil: And you get to set conditions on the result (creationDate, modifiedBy, etc.) | 17:40 |
SquOnk | ckotil: I'd like to have parentId on that list. | 17:40 |
SquOnk | ckotil: I want to use Asset Report to collect Shortcuts present on a given page. | 17:40 |
ckotil | ok. i have never used it. | 17:41 |
SquOnk | :/ | 17:58 |
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SquOnk | ckotil: I figured it out :) | 18:17 |
SquOnk | ckotil: RFEing and attaching patch. | 18:17 |
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@scrottie | mornin'. | 19:42 |
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qwebirc33777 | Modperl doesn't start after new install. I changed the memory...but it still doesn't start. | 19:49 |
SquOnk | scrottie: 'ternoon | 19:49 |
qwebirc33777 | Pardon me! Good afternoon. | 19:50 |
qwebirc33777 | Here's the error message, http://pastebin.com/QM4h2NGb | 19:51 |
haarg | qwebirc33777, you might try just deleting the Linux::Smaps module | 19:53 |
haarg | if it doesn't exist, Apache2::SizeLimit will use a different way to check the sizes | 19:54 |
ckotil | SquOnk: nice | 19:55 |
SquOnk | Burguer time. bbl | 19:57 |
qwebirc33777 | Thanks. It worked. | 19:58 |
qwebirc33777 | On Debian, how do I get WRE to start automatically at system boot? | 20:00 |
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@scrottie | do you have an /etc/rc.local? does it work? | 20:35 |
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qwebirc33777 | <@scrottie> Yes. It is set to - exit 0 | 21:06 |
@scrottie | you should be able to add /data/wre/sbin/wreservice.pl --start all | 21:07 |
@scrottie | to it before the exit 0 | 21:07 |
@scrottie | I've seen Linux systems with /etc/rc.local not enabled, which is just brain dead | 21:07 |
@scrottie | in fact, for all of the flack HP-UX, IRIX, and those Unices took for changing things in bizarre, non-standard ways, Linux is worse. | 21:08 |
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SDuensin | Morning all. | 16:46 |
zylopfa | Good morning Sir! | 16:47 |
SDuensin | Hey zylopfa | 16:47 |
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@scrottie | mornin'... | 17:27 |
zylopfa | Greetings Sir scrottie | 17:28 |
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+BartJol | goodafternoon | 18:03 |
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zylopfa | good afternoon Sir | 18:22 |
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+BartJol | oooh, he said sir to me | 19:14 |
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@pbcj | perrrrhfect | 22:13 |
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vanjwilson | Does anyone know if I can use a <tmpl_if>...<tmpl_else>...</tmpl_if> construct in an HTML snippet for my footer? I want the contact link to go to a different contact form depending on whether user is logged in or not. <tmpl_if user.isVisitor> works in my custom login box, which is type "Template". | 22:19 |
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haarg | snippets have a setting in them to process them as a template. you can then use some of the general session variables. | 22:22 |
haarg | i don't remember where that list of variables is though. in the help somewhere. | 22:23 |
vanjwilson | in the snippet article in the wiki, it says you can choose to "Process as template", but my version has "Use packed?" in that spot... What is Use packed? | 22:28 |
haarg | it packs the html so it is a smaller download | 22:29 |
haarg | unrelated | 22:29 |
haarg | if that option isn't there, your ui level may not be high enough | 22:29 |
haarg | actually i don't think that option is effected by ui level | 22:31 |
vanjwilson | logged in as Admin | 22:32 |
haarg | in newer versions of webgui it looks like the checkbox has been replaced with a dropdown with options for which parser to use | 22:32 |
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vanjwilson | @haarg, I see the version drop down, but I'm seeing some forum posts that say very few variables are available in snippets, should I use GuestText macro instead? | 22:37 |
haarg | yeah, there aren't many available. i think there might be one for if the use is logged in though. | 22:40 |
haarg | let me check quick | 22:40 |
haarg | hmm | 22:41 |
haarg | seems not | 22:41 |
haarg | the list of things available is in the help | 22:41 |
haarg | under 'Template Variables' | 22:42 |
haarg | seems like you'll want to use the macro instead | 22:42 |
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SquOnk | Greetings. | 22:47 |
SquOnk | I'm getting a hideous | 22:48 |
SquOnk | DBD::mysql::st execute failed: Duplicate entry 'KFrVBb3QGyoEPILgXJ63fA-XC1wdid9e3phZKJU76f5dg-http://nuevo.globo' for key 'PRIMARY' at /usr/share/webgui/lib/WebGUI/SQL/ResultSet.pm line 137. | 22:48 |
SquOnk | But can't figure out *where* it is inserting. | 22:48 |
SquOnk | (Attempting to insert, actually) | 22:48 |
haarg | that's showing up in the logs? | 22:49 |
SquOnk | haarg: Yep | 22:49 |
SquOnk | haarg: Apache's error log. Apache dies miserably with Software caused connection abort | 22:49 |
haarg | what version? | 22:50 |
SquOnk | 7.9.31 | 22:50 |
SquOnk | But it has been happening since 7.9.2x and it also happens in 7.9.33 | 22:51 |
SquOnk | I think it has to do with passive profiling. | 22:51 |
haarg | the way it is failing it off though | 22:51 |
haarg | the ->execute call is dieing | 22:52 |
haarg | which should never happen | 22:52 |
SquOnk | In webgui.log I found the FATAL for insertion in passiveProfileAOI | 22:52 |
SquOnk | 2011/08/08 19:50:59 - FATAL - webgui.conf - WebGUI::SQL::ResultSet::execute[137] - Couldn't execute prepared statement: insert into passiveProfileAOI (userId, fieldId, value) | 22:52 |
SquOnk | values ('KFrVBb3QGyoEPILgXJ63fA','XC1wdid9e3phZKJU76f5dg','http://nuevo.globovision.com/inicio/nacionales/noticias/2011/06/23/difieren-imputaci3n-de-pat3logo-del-cicpc-por-muerte-de-tres-detenidos') : With place holders: . Root cause: Duplicate entry 'KFrVBb3QGyoEPILgXJ63fA-XC1wdid9e3phZKJU76f5dg-http://nuevo.globo' for key 'PRIMARY' | 22:52 |
SquOnk | There it is (sorry for the big paste) | 22:52 |
haarg | ok that makes more sense | 22:53 |
SquOnk | haarg: Correct me if I'm wrong (I haven't look at the code yet). The insert takes a fieldId (metadata?) and it's value for the current Asset, and tries to save it, right? | 22:54 |
haarg | something along those lines | 22:55 |
haarg | there is the potential for a race condition in that code but other than that i don't see what would cause the issue | 22:56 |
haarg | is this something you are seeing frequently? | 22:56 |
SquOnk | haarg: Oh yes. | 22:57 |
haarg | hmm | 22:57 |
SquOnk | haarg: And it kills the Apache server, so users end up whit a dreaded "white page" | 22:57 |
haarg | yeah database call failures are handled in a pretty shitty way in 7 | 22:58 |
SquOnk | Oh my $deity, I just saw the race... | 23:00 |
haarg | can you look in the database and give me the results from SHOW CREATE TABLE passiveProfileAOI | 23:00 |
SquOnk | Sure | 23:01 |
haarg | yeah there are race conditions along those lines in a bunch of places unfortunately. i don't think that's what is going on in this case though. | 23:01 |
SquOnk | CREATE TABLE `passiveProfileAOI` ( | 23:03 |
SquOnk | `userId` char(22) CHARACTER SET utf8 COLLATE utf8_bin NOT NULL, | 23:03 |
SquOnk | `fieldId` char(22) CHARACTER SET utf8 COLLATE utf8_bin NOT NULL, | 23:03 |
SquOnk | `value` char(100) NOT NULL, | 23:03 |
SquOnk | `count` int(11) DEFAULT NULL, | 23:03 |
SquOnk | PRIMARY KEY (`userId`,`fieldId`,`value`) | 23:03 |
SquOnk | ) ENGINE=MyISAM DEFAULT CHARSET=utf8 | 23:03 |
haarg | would be better to use a pastebin for stuff like that :) | 23:03 |
haarg | preaction isn't around to slap you for it | 23:03 |
SquOnk | Yep | 23:04 |
SquOnk | http://pastebin.com/AB3Mk4GH | 23:04 |
SquOnk | haarg: You know, I can only see that happening with a race. | 23:07 |
haarg | i'm thinking it's the index length | 23:08 |
SquOnk | haarg: And it is somewhat possible because I have the same user with many simultaneous logins looking at the same stuff. | 23:08 |
haarg | the length of the index doesn't cover the entire length of that value field | 23:08 |
SquOnk | haarg: Do you mean the index should have more/less fields? | 23:09 |
haarg | well the design expects those three fields to make a unique index | 23:10 |
haarg | the max index length is 255 | 23:10 |
SquOnk | haarg: What? | 23:11 |
haarg | but utf8 fields all take 3 bytes per character to store in mysql for some reason | 23:11 |
haarg | so with utf8 fields you are limited to 85 characters in your index | 23:12 |
haarg | -44 from the ids and it is only matching on part of that url | 23:13 |
haarg | at least, that's how i remember it working last time i looked into this | 23:13 |
SquOnk | haarg: Well, you might have a point (very sad reality for MySQL though). | 23:15 |
SquOnk | haarg: I'm checking MySQL docs to confirm. | 23:17 |
SquOnk | Well, MySQL will never cease to depress me... | 23:21 |
haarg | yeah :/ | 23:21 |
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haarg | hmm | 23:22 |
SquOnk | It's beyond crap | 23:22 |
haarg | i'm looking around for references to this | 23:22 |
haarg | and not seeing the same numbers i was thinking | 23:22 |
SquOnk | I just read 'The maximum key length is 1000 bytes. | 23:23 |
haarg | yeah that's what i saw too | 23:23 |
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haarg | so those three fields together should be ok | 23:24 |
haarg | i don't know. might make sense to fix the race condition and see if it fixes anything. | 23:24 |
SquOnk | I'm using 5.1 as per Debian Squeeze, because 5.0 had stronger limitations. | 23:25 |
SquOnk | haarg: Agreed. | 23:25 |
SquOnk | The error message truncates the key at 64 bytes. | 23:28 |
SquOnk | I mean, the truncated string shows up to the 64th character. | 23:28 |
SquOnk | That comes out of $self->errorMessage which in turn corresponds to DBD's errstr. | 23:29 |
haarg | http://gist.github.com/1132660 | 23:30 |
haarg | that's untested but looks mostly right | 23:31 |
haarg | there's probably a better way to do it but i don't feel like figuring out mysql's particular syntax for insert or replace | 23:31 |
SquOnk | omg | 23:34 |
SquOnk | I should file a bug about that, unless you already did. | 23:34 |
SquOnk | But still, the INSERT will still be the same length. | 23:34 |
haarg | now that i've looked at it more i'm thinking it wouldn't be the index thing though. 1000 bytes is plenty of room for those three fields even with the 3 byte expansion due to utf8. | 23:36 |
SquOnk | haarg: It is, assuming the 1000 is really the limit. Seems to be a compile time flag according to documentation. | 23:37 |
haarg | but it should error out if you try to create an index that is too long | 23:37 |
haarg | so i'm pretty sure that isn't the problem in this case | 23:37 |
SquOnk | haarg: I'm checking Debian's mysql-server source package to make sure it's 1000 | 23:38 |
SquOnk | haarg: Did you push the change you pasted? | 23:39 |
haarg | no | 23:39 |
haarg | and it looks like it screwed something up with it anyway | 23:40 |
SquOnk | Heh :) | 23:40 |
CIA-82 | webgui: Graham Knop WebGUI8 * r620d34b / lib/WebGUI/PassiveProfiling.pm : fix race condition in passive profiling - http://bit.ly/nXzQvo | 23:42 |
haarg | i only tested it on webgui 8 but i'm going to assume it will be ok on 7 as well | 23:43 |
haarg | pushed it to both | 23:43 |
CIA-82 | webgui: Graham Knop master * r39049e1 / lib/WebGUI/PassiveProfiling.pm : fix race condition in passive profiling - http://bit.ly/qqzIDg | 23:43 |
SquOnk | haarg: I assume you pushed to 7.10 | 23:43 |
haarg | yes | 23:43 |
SquOnk | haarg: The only chance of seeing it in 7.9 is that it's considered a critical bug, am I right? | 23:44 |
haarg | it's a bugfix so it could be included in 7.9 | 23:44 |
haarg | i can't test 7 though so i don't feel too confident messing with it, even though it's a small change | 23:44 |
SquOnk | Hm | 23:45 |
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SquOnk | haarg: I don't see what could be causing it, besides your idea of truncated indexes. | 23:59 |
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SquOnk | haarg: I'm going to file a bug, anyway. | 00:08 |
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@scrottie | Arjan Widlak... | 01:48 |
@scrottie | I hate it when git blame gives the name of a person of whom I have no knowledge of character or physicals. | 01:49 |
@scrottie | defects. | 01:49 |
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@scrottie | http://www.webgui.org/use/bugs/tracker/12198 ... would anyone argue against my dropping support WebGUI letting people log in using HTTP Auth? I've only ever heard of this getting in the way. | 03:25 |
@scrottie | another option would be to make failures silent, including not trying to prompt for HTTP Basic auth again. then whatever code is trying to use HTTP Auth to log the user in would have to do the work of setting the status to HTTP Auth Failure. | 03:27 |
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preaction | scrottie, were it to me, the second option seems better | 04:11 |
preaction | the http auth was added for non-web-browser http requests, like RSS feed readers or other scrapers | 04:11 |
@scrottie | ah | 04:12 |
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haarg | iirc webgui 8 removed the http auth stuff and it was supposed to get added back in, but it hasn't happened yet | 05:39 |
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qwebirc24752 | Good morning | 16:17 |
qwebirc24752 | I'm looking for a drop & flyout menu system. I disable the #header attributes in default Underground theme and switch out the top navigation with that of CrystalX... the page breaks. Underground sidebar becomes wrapped around with the page content. | 16:18 |
qwebirc24752 | I've noticed similar results with yui 2 template framework. Have I missed something? | 16:19 |
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+BartJol | sorry qwebirc24752 I'm not a very good templater | 16:49 |
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SquOnk | Greetings. | 18:23 |
SquOnk | I'm reading http://www.webgui.org/community-wiki/deploy-cloudfront-for-webgui again. Is there something newer? | 18:24 |
@scrottie | what's out of date about it? can it be fixed? not that I'm aware of. | 19:46 |
@scrottie | of course, I wasn't aware of that page either. | 19:46 |
SquOnk | scrottie: LOL | 19:46 |
SquOnk | scrottie: I mean, it makes sense and pretty straightforward. Just wondered if there was a newer writeup. | 19:47 |
SquOnk | scrottie: (I'm about to do that, in order to have several WG machines share de /uploads via S3) | 19:47 |
SquOnk | s/de/the/ | 19:47 |
@scrottie | well, if you have to do anything special, update the Wiki. | 19:48 |
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CIA-82 | webgui: Colin Kuskie WebGUI8 * r693bccd / lib/WebGUI/Asset/File/GalleryFile/Photo.pm : Remove useless call to getGallery. - http://bit.ly/rph03s | 23:35 |
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@scrottie | I think I know why someone donated this access point to Goodwill... | 01:20 |
* scrottie sighs | 01:20 | |
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sbaur | has anyone written or know of a utility for entering csv data into a webgui dataform? | 02:20 |
sbaur | i checked the bazaar but didn't see anything | 02:20 |
@scrottie | sounds like a wonderful feature request | 02:21 |
sbaur | well, looks like we have to write something, maybe it can be the kernel of a new feature... | 02:21 |
sbaur | of course, we'll be writing it against 7.6 or 7.5 even | 02:22 |
sbaur | feature request submitted. when (in a few months) we get something together for this, I'll add it to the request | 02:26 |
@scrottie | w00t | 02:26 |
sbaur | oh hey, thingy allows imports... maybe that's good enough, of course, thingy's reporting absolutely sucks, but it may be a start | 02:27 |
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@scrottie | is wreconsole.pl known to barf all over the place? | 05:46 |
CIA-82 | webgui: Colin Kuskie WebGUI8 * rb3f5e89 / lib/WebGUI/Asset.pm : Take the object's default as a defaultValue for the form if there are no config file overrides. However, always provide one. - http://bit.ly/roUzol | 06:22 |
CIA-82 | webgui: Colin Kuskie WebGUI8 * r8277383 / lib/WebGUI/Asset/Event.pm : Convert Event to use getEditTemplate. - http://bit.ly/nKvBhR | 06:22 |
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+BartJol | frodwith: are you awake? | 10:28 |
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@frodwith | Bartjol: fat chance at 2am :) | 15:25 |
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+BartJol | :) | 15:31 |
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SDuensin | Greetings. | 16:43 |
xootom | hi there! | 16:44 |
SDuensin | Hey xootom | 16:44 |
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FNod | Hi, | 20:28 |
FNod | I've a small problem with wG URLs : | 20:29 |
FNod | I created a folder which URL was "fr" | 20:29 |
FNod | then changed it to "r/fr" | 20:29 |
FNod | however, if I type "example.com/fr" I still access that folder | 20:30 |
FNod | (example.com/r/fr is working too) | 20:30 |
FNod | thus I can't create a Page Layout with the URL "fr", it is renamed "fr2" | 20:31 |
FNod | How can I fix this ? | 20:31 |
FNod | Sorry for the noise, I've solved the problem. | 20:35 |
ckotil | yeah, Wg keeps the URL names around for 1 year by default, i think. the one way i know how to get around it is to delete your asset. purge it from trash, then try again. tho there is probably a more elegant way to do it | 20:35 |
FNod | I used the "Change URL" option to rename from "r/fr" to "r/fr" :) | 20:36 |
FNod | not elegant neither, but faster | 20:37 |
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vanjwilson | What's the best way to perserve a session variable in a webgui--I'm working on a small "dashboard" style app, and want to save the user's choices when they come back to dashboard from report page. session scratch variables may work, but do you have to use a query string (or is there some macro like PHP's $_SESSION array) ? | 20:56 |
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@scrottie | you have a few options... | 21:09 |
@scrottie | there's scratch, and there's userProfileData | 21:09 |
@scrottie | perldoc WebGUI::Session::Scratch (or perldoc /data/WebGUI/lib/WebGUI/Session/Scratch.pm), WebGUI::ProfileField | 21:10 |
@scrottie | there's a UI for maintaining profile data in the admin console | 21:10 |
+perlDreamer | why not just use the existing dashboard asset? | 21:10 |
vanjwilson | @scrottie I only want to remember the preferences for the current session and to change them based on form clicks--would userProfileData be ok to store "short-term" data like that? | 21:15 |
+perlDreamer | userProfileData would last longer than the current session | 21:15 |
@scrottie | userProfileData is long term. please read those two perldocs and let me know if you have any questions. | 21:15 |
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vanjwilson | okay, thanks @scrottie and @perldreamer (I'll check out the dashboard asset too) | 21:20 |
@scrottie | sure thing | 21:23 |
+perlDreamer | note to self: mid-project core upgrades are a bad idea | 21:44 |
@scrottie | mid-project is the only time anything happens. | 21:45 |
+perlDreamer | we need to delay the core merge until after the update | 21:47 |
+perlDreamer | since doing a merge in the development branch of the project makes it nigh on impossible to merge into WebGUI's master branch | 21:48 |
@scrottie | what core is being upgraded? sorry? | 21:48 |
+perlDreamer | Let's invent a situation | 21:49 |
+perlDreamer | A customer is using 7.9.early and wants some changes to core assets made | 21:49 |
+perlDreamer | we make a fork of 7.9.early and a dev starts making changes | 21:49 |
+perlDreamer | then, in mid-stream, we have update the custom branch to 7.9.recent | 21:50 |
+perlDreamer | so there's a commit in the custom branch which includes the upgrade | 21:50 |
+perlDreamer | doing any kind of merge back into core makes git go boom | 21:50 |
@scrottie | gotcha. | 21:50 |
+perlDreamer | so, back to extracting patches | 21:51 |
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@scrottie | Monday, I'm gone for two weeks | 01:26 |
@scrottie | oh, hello everyone | 01:27 |
@scrottie | that was going to be a /privmsg | 01:27 |
@scrottie | but since we're here, some friends and I are riding bikes across part of Europe. | 01:27 |
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CIA-82 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r428ea58 / (21 files in 16 dirs): Add better support for user profile fields for addresses to the Cart and the EMS. - http://bit.ly/ovjOfD | 02:28 |
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SDuensin | FrIdAy! | 16:32 |
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@scrottie | ieeeeeeeee! | 19:30 |
sbaur | shouldn't you be getting ready for a bicycle tour :-) | 19:31 |
@scrottie | I do need to pack for that... | 19:33 |
@scrottie | now that you mention it | 19:33 |
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Trex | Morning, folks. (for those in the western hemisphere) | 18:07 |
Trex | I was wondering if someone could help me figure out the proper use of the synopsis marker (^-;), which doesn't seem to be fully documented. | 18:08 |
Trex | I get that if you insert it into a CS post, WebGUI will create the synopsis with the text up to that point. That seems to be working for me... | 18:08 |
Trex | But I would presume that WG would also HIDE that marker when displaying the full post...but that doesn't seem to be happening for me. I'm getting the marker showing up when you view the post description itself. | 18:09 |
Trex | I don't know enough about how it SHOULD be behaving to say whether I should be using it differently or if I have a bug report to fill out. (WG version 7.9.32) | 18:11 |
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ckotil | is there a table I can query to find out the most viewed asset? | 19:28 |
ckotil | I know WikiPage.views keeps track of views for the wiki, but I'd like to have the same stats for the rest of my assets | 19:30 |
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ckotil | I got something going using passive analytics, and querying passiveLog table for uniq occurances on the URL column | 19:57 |
@preaction | i'd use awstats or google analytics or piwick for that, really | 20:25 |
@preaction | make that piwik | 20:25 |
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ckotil | wow. that table get's LARGE. | 20:33 |
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CIA-82 | webgui: Graham Knop webgui-7.9 * r0da89c3 / lib/WebGUI/PassiveProfiling.pm : fix race condition in passive profiling - http://bit.ly/n9cezZ | 23:31 |
CIA-82 | webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.9 * r894b917 / docs/changelog/7.x.x.txt : Document bugfix for Passive Profiling. - http://bit.ly/rsVgn5 | 23:31 |
CIA-82 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r62a23df / docs/changelog/7.x.x.txt : Document bugfix for Passive Profiling. - http://bit.ly/qQ2X4r | 23:39 |
CIA-82 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * rb2e3261 / (3 files in 3 dirs): Fix rendering issues with the Thing drop down list in the CrystalX theme. Fixes bug #12173 - http://bit.ly/rukOGF | 23:39 |
CIA-82 | webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.9 * ra5ca460 / (3 files in 3 dirs): Fix rendering issues with the Thing drop down list in the CrystalX theme. Fixes bug #12173 - http://bit.ly/noqhhL | 23:40 |
CIA-82 | webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.9 * ra75dd6e / (2 files in 2 dirs): Move upgrade package to the correct location. - http://bit.ly/nIf89L | 23:43 |
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CIA-82 | webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.9 * r4f99ec6 / t/Asset/editFormOverride.t : Cleanup after another leaky test. - http://bit.ly/n4Czb6 | 05:04 |
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CIA-82 | webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.9 * r49672ec / docs/create.sql : Preparing for 7.9.34 release - http://bit.ly/rp3wsm | 07:23 |
+perlDreamer | Since this is the last 7.9 release, there won't be another git commit tonight | 07:40 |
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SDuensin | Greetings. | 16:46 |
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vanjwilson | Does anyone know if the ^If(); macro can use a macro in the true condition, instead of a quoted string? I'm trying to do: ^If(^FormParam(delete-id);, ^CustomDeleteMacro(delete-id);); | 17:45 |
+BartJol | it might | 18:09 |
+BartJol | never tried it though | 18:10 |
+BartJol | well, I did use nested macros, but not the If macro | 18:10 |
+BartJol | It can break for instance when a comma is included in the result | 18:11 |
+BartJol | oh, this is a while ago, let's ping: vanjwilson | 18:11 |
vanjwilson | still here | 18:12 |
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vanjwilson | @Bartjol: my custom macro is more a procedure that manages a scratch var received through form-POST, no real ouput in production | 18:13 |
+BartJol | well, that should work I think, I see in the documentation in the macro that it can give back html | 18:15 |
+BartJol | and it does not escape macros afais | 18:17 |
+BartJol | but I have to go, good luck | 18:19 |
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CIA-82 | webgui: Chris Hanson master * r31c1671 / lib/WebGUI/AssetMetaData.pm : Added dateTime to metadata field types - http://bit.ly/peLHcr | 19:38 |
CIA-82 | webgui: Chris Hanson webgui-7.9 * r0e69b6c / lib/WebGUI/AssetMetaData.pm : Added dateTime field type to meta data - http://bit.ly/pSVB4V | 19:38 |
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CIA-82 | webgui: Chris Hanson master * r6f5a5fc / docs/changelog/7.x.x.txt : - rfe #12223: Add dateTime type to content profiling (metadata) - http://bit.ly/nkN9Ow | 21:20 |
CIA-82 | webgui: Chris Hanson webgui-7.9 * r4c6d149 / docs/changelog/7.x.x.txt : - rfe #12223: Add dateTime type to content profiling (metadata) - http://bit.ly/nssQoH | 21:20 |
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haarg | rfe in 7.9? | 23:22 |
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CIA-82 | webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.9 * r8974ec2 / lib/WebGUI/AssetMetaData.pm : | 00:01 |
CIA-82 | webgui: WebGUI 7.9 branch is closed. | 00:01 |
CIA-82 | webgui: This reverts commit 0e69b6c2232d4c88cb8d485cbd974b50576edc82. - http://bit.ly/oWi3oV | 00:01 |
CIA-82 | webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.9 * r98d99e9 / docs/changelog/7.x.x.txt : | 00:01 |
CIA-82 | webgui: WebGUI 7.9 branch is closed. | 00:01 |
CIA-82 | webgui: This reverts commit 4c6d149be65ad6db97ef1dac3d14a93b8cad1888. - http://bit.ly/r8q4Vw | 00:01 |
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CIA-82 | webgui: David Delikat master * r756ae7a / lib/WebGUI/Form/Combo.pm : remove reference to extras as requested - http://bit.ly/pYpVZ7 | 00:36 |
CIA-82 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r63aa62b / lib/WebGUI/Form/Combo.pm : | 00:36 |
CIA-82 | webgui: Merge pull request #21 from daviddelikat/master | 00:36 |
CIA-82 | webgui: textExtras in Combo object - http://bit.ly/nEbRv3 | 00:36 |
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qwebirc26827 | Hello. Please help with mail settings. Mail for the domain is managed by Google Apps. What do I need to do at Settings > Messaging | 01:30 |
CIA-82 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * racfe7e7 / docs/upgrades/upgrade_7.9.34-7.10.22.pl : Add the merged upgrade script. - http://bit.ly/neXBNu | 01:37 |
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CIA-82 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * rb5ff886 / docs/upgrades/upgrade_7.9.34-7.10.22.pl : First batch of cleanups for the merged upgrade script. - http://bit.ly/qrTid0 | 02:09 |
CIA-82 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r5a4369e / docs/upgrades/upgrade_7.9.34-7.10.22.pl : More upgrade fixes. - http://bit.ly/pR5mfS | 02:09 |
CIA-82 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * rf85c7dd / docs/upgrades/upgrade_7.9.34-7.10.22.pl : Final batch of upgrade subroutine bug fixes. - http://bit.ly/nzVMAF | 02:09 |
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CIA-82 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r5ef5267 / docs/upgrades/packages-7.9.34-7.10.22/merged.wgpkg : Added merged package for upgrading. - http://bit.ly/pDWCMO | 02:35 |
CIA-82 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r52cfc73 / docs/upgrades/upgrade_7.9.34-7.10.22.pl : Alter the merged upgrade script to accept the merged upgrade package. - http://bit.ly/mYSnz4 | 02:35 |
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CIA-82 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * re11e654 / lib/WebGUI/Form/Combo.pm : Final tweak for the definition for Form/Combo. - http://bit.ly/ou6QGD | 03:05 |
CIA-82 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * rb6f3778 / (21 files in 11 dirs): Preparing for 7.10.22 release (stable) - http://bit.ly/om97lt | 04:05 |
CIA-82 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r2886243 / lib/WebGUI.pm : 7.10 is now stable. - http://bit.ly/pDH24Z | 04:08 |
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CIA-82 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r8211232 / (4 files in 4 dirs): Ready for 7.10.23 development - http://bit.ly/q0dAVL | 04:58 |
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SDuensin | Morning. | 16:41 |
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qwebirc67678 | Good morning. Please help with mail settings. Mail for the domain is managed by Google Apps. What do I need to do at - Settings > Messaging | 17:53 |
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+BartJol | qwebirc67678: you mean the smtp server? | 18:39 |
qwebirc67678 | Yes. and SMS info? | 18:41 |
+BartJol | well, smtp server can be every smtp server, as long as authentcation is not rquired | 18:42 |
+BartJol | like localhost (if you have a postfix for instance) | 18:43 |
+BartJol | or an smtpserver from your isp | 18:43 |
qwebirc67678 | My WRE-WG installation is on a Deb 6 VPS. I didn't install any additional software. I did a basic instl of Deb 6. | 18:49 |
+BartJol | well, running postfix should not be too difficult | 18:50 |
+BartJol | and then you can use localhost | 18:50 |
+BartJol | (be sure not to accept smtp traffic from outside your server) | 18:50 |
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qwebirc67678 | Would installing Webmin make it easier intalling postfix? | 19:03 |
+BartJol | not sure | 19:03 |
+BartJol | i think it is in apt repo's | 19:03 |
+BartJol | not sure what the problem is you're having now | 19:04 |
+BartJol | but, I have to go | 19:06 |
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SDuensin | Greetings. | 16:42 |
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qwebirc18135 | Hi. How can I prevent navigating folders (themes, media, tempspace) after the domain name? | 18:11 |
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+danny_mk | Has anyone gotten WebGUI8 to work on a Mac yet? I had the hardest time trying to configure it and I eventually gave up and moved on to work projects. I would like to try again if anyone has installed it and have it running on his/her mac. | 19:31 |
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CIA-82 | webgui: Chris Hanson master * rbdec9c8 / (docs/changelog/7.x.x.txt lib/WebGUI/AssetMetaData.pm): Changed dateTime to date in content profiling type, my misinterpretation of RFE. - http://bit.ly/r0mx5y | 21:54 |
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SDuensin | FrIdAy! | 16:38 |
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ckotil | Any chance to get more granular permissions into the wiki? It's so close to being awesome as a documentation system | 22:37 |
ckotil | it would probably benefit from exposing all of the normal asset options | 22:38 |
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kynlem | what's the next step to get webgui up and running, after installing the deb package? | 16:46 |
kynlem | i enabled the spectre daemon, and tried launching webgui using its init.d script, but with no luck | 16:47 |
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CIA-82 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r8ed3eba / (2 files in 2 dirs): Allow multiple stock assets to be placed on the same page by making div ID's and JS function names unique. Fixes bug #12225. - http://git.io/4qDlAA | 05:54 |
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CIA-82 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r4f29056 / (3 files in 3 dirs): Changed urls sent to the asset indexer from using getUrl which prepends the gateway to them. Fixes bug #12229. - http://git.io/argIrg | 18:05 |
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+danny_mk | Good day everyone. Has anyone configured a WebGUI site to run https only? | 21:06 |
+danny_mk | http://pastebin.com/s5YadKid | 21:07 |
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+danny_mk | I have it configured and running that was however I am getting some spectre and workflow errors | 21:07 |
@preaction | spectre should probably point to the mod_perl instance using http. mod_proxy should be the only https handler | 21:10 |
+danny_mk | I am running a stand alone system, can't really configure wre on the server, the sysadmin is kind of possessive about software installation | 21:11 |
@preaction | okay, just ask for another instance of apache running for performance reasons | 21:13 |
+danny_mk | not sure how to configure two but OK | 21:14 |
@preaction | otherwise, keep an internal 127.0.0.1 virtualhost for spectre to use. otherwise use a rewriterule to prevent connections from spectre being moved to https | 21:14 |
@preaction | to configure two it's just another httpd.conf file | 21:15 |
+danny_mk | I will try the 127.0.0.1 internal host first | 21:15 |
+danny_mk | that sounds like an interim good solution | 21:15 |
+danny_mk | where does spectre get the url to run its workfloses spectre.conf or mysite.conf? | 21:17 |
+danny_mk | workflows | 21:17 |
@preaction | it uses the first sitename in mysite.conf | 21:18 |
+danny_mk | OK, thanks | 21:18 |
@preaction | so you'd need a series of 127.0.0.1:80 virtual hosts, one for each site, just for spectre | 21:18 |
+danny_mk | yup, doing that now | 21:19 |
@preaction | probably also make sure that you deny from all, allow from 127. or something | 21:20 |
@preaction | just to be on the safe side, belt-and-suspenders kind of thing | 21:20 |
+danny_mk | yup | 21:20 |
+danny_mk | the "Send queued message" workflow is showing some errors in the log referencing WebGUI::Asset::Wobject::WSClient that module is not available on my system. | 21:32 |
+danny_mk | I am wondering if I have an incomplete build. | 21:33 |
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@preaction | no, WSClient hasn't been part of Webgui for a while, but you may have not had it removed from your config file | 21:45 |
+danny_mk | OK | 21:45 |
+danny_mk | hmmm.. not in config file at all | 21:46 |
+danny_mk | not in config file not in filesystem | 21:48 |
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+danny_mk | preaction: since there is no real "recoverPassword" method in WebGUI::Auth::OpenId what would be the best way to make sure that a subject asking for password recovery gets redirected to the WebGUI::Auth::Webgui module? | 22:55 |
@preaction | danny_mk, in recent versions of webgui, specify the authType=WebGUI | 23:16 |
+danny_mk | preaction: yes, that means that during password recovery I have to change the template to have authType=WebGUI | 23:34 |
+danny_mk | when I create the account it gets created with authType=OpenId | 23:35 |
@preaction | authType=WebGUI in the URL i mean, ?op=auth;authType=WebGUI;method=recoverPassword. as time goes on, the user's authtype won't matter anymore | 23:35 |
@preaction | really, the user should be created with authType WebGUI and OpenID used as the alternate login scheme using ?op=auth;authType=OpenID | 23:36 |
+danny_mk | OK, thank you. | 23:36 |
+danny_mk | right, unfortunately the current implementation created the users with an authType of OpenId, I have to change them in the database manually. | 23:41 |
+danny_mk | I also have to make that change in the OpenId module. | 23:42 |
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CIA-82 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r8ab2dcc / t/Group.t : Fix cleanup and spelling issues with Group.t - http://git.io/ESvF-w | 05:19 |
CIA-82 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * re65368c / (4 files in 4 dirs): Fix group membership by scratch variables for Visitor. Fixes bug #12195. Kudos to trex for the base patch. Also fix the same problem in the IP based group membership. - http://git.io/1REYSA | 05:19 |
CIA-82 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r71a015a / t/Asset/Post.t : Remove debug output from Post.t - http://git.io/7J-MLA | 05:48 |
CIA-82 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r073093e / lib/WebGUI/User.pm : Avoid autivivifying hashes that are live references or will be cached later in User/Group. - http://git.io/BYdVhg | 06:07 |
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SDuensin | Morning. | 16:58 |
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+BartJol | grrrmmbl | 17:13 |
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sbaur | Hi everyone | 02:05 |
sbaur | I need some help trying to track down something odd | 02:05 |
sbaur | I have a dataform on a dev site that shows me the "page you have requested does not exist page" when i try to view it (admin on) | 02:06 |
sbaur | however it does not through any errors about an asset being requested that does not exist in my asset tree | 02:06 |
sbaur | in webgui.log | 02:06 |
sbaur | and the url for that asset is in assetData, and it has a parent in asset, but the parent also gives the does not exist error | 02:07 |
sbaur | neither page appears to be in the system trash or system clipboard | 02:07 |
haarg | state and status? | 02:07 |
sbaur | published and... | 02:08 |
sbaur | pending | 02:09 |
sbaur | but i don't have any outstanding versiontags | 02:09 |
sbaur | nor does it show that there are any pending ones | 02:09 |
sbaur | this is 7.6.35 in case that makes a difference | 02:09 |
haarg | i'd start by checking on the version tag for that revision. might want to force commit it through the database. not that that is very helpful finding out what went wrong. | 02:10 |
sbaur | so the tagId in assetData should be the same as the tagId in assetVersionTag? | 02:12 |
sbaur | it's saying isCommitted=1, but it's by the wrong user | 02:13 |
sbaur | assetHistory has a regular "created revision, locked, edited" set of rows for it | 02:15 |
sbaur | gonna try rebuilding the lineage... | 02:18 |
sbaur | it found an orphan, but not the asset I was looking for, though it did change the lineage for that asset | 02:21 |
sbaur | more info, the template it's trying to use, doesn't seem to exist... | 02:28 |
sbaur | I need to leave for the day. guess I'll keep digging into this tomorrow. | 02:29 |
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xdanger | scrottie: which part? | 16:23 |
xdanger | scrottie: which part of europe are you riding? | 16:23 |
SDuensin | Greetings. | 16:51 |
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+BartJol | what scrottie in europe | 17:10 |
* BartJol hides in de shadows | 17:10 | |
* SDuensin has guis in his webs! | 17:11 | |
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+BartJol | SDuensin: that's better than "gruis in je onderbroek" | 18:50 |
SDuensin | Um. K. | 18:51 |
+BartJol | just believe me | 18:51 |
ckotil | http://theoatmeal.com/comics/online_gaming | 19:08 |
ckotil | oops. | 19:10 |
ckotil | enjoy it anyway if you can | 19:10 |
+BartJol | :) | 19:11 |
sbaur | So I'm still trying to fix my "missing" dataform problem from yesterday (WG 7.6.35) | 19:36 |
sbaur | it looks like all the bits that are missing are associated with a version tag and have a status of pending | 19:36 |
sbaur | but when I look at the assetVersionTag table, the tag is committed | 19:36 |
sbaur | if i manually change the pendings to published, what kind of problems might that cause? | 19:37 |
sbaur | Luckily this is on a dev version of my site | 19:37 |
sbaur | or should i change the assetVersionTag table and set it to not committed and then go through the commit process again? | 19:38 |
sbaur | is one "safer" than the other? | 19:38 |
sbaur | s/published/approved/ | 19:44 |
haarg | might be safer to set the version tag to not committed, then try committing it | 20:23 |
haarg | also would have the advantage of possibly reproducing the issue that occurred | 20:24 |
sbaur | i wound up copying the bits that had problems from the committed tag to a new tag and then committing it. that seems to have done it | 20:33 |
sbaur | it committed the second time without incident | 20:33 |
sbaur | I'm almost wondering if I got hit with a GUID collision for the version tag ID | 20:33 |
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xdanger | hmm... why does webgui require a module that fails on every platform and seems to be abandoned? (on update in two years, even when failing on every platform) talking about Business::OnlinePayment::AuthorizeNet | 21:42 |
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xdanger | I'm always running in to problems when upgrading from 7.x to the next 7.x release. And again this time... | 00:03 |
xdanger | Do I use webgui in some strange way that newer comes up in testing phases .. | 00:04 |
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kynlem | hey | 02:14 |
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jaime | Hi. I want know about W3C WCAG (accessibility web). Webgui is compatible? | 04:37 |
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SDuensin | Morning. | 16:41 |
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+BartJol | howdy | 17:30 |
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SDuensin | FrIdAy! | 16:35 |
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ckotil | sweet. the search asset accepts GET parameters. ?keywords=myplc;doit=1 | 17:19 |
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KlausH | Hi - is there any logging / logfile for the wre backup? | 20:09 |
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sbaur | I don't think the backups have a log. What info are you looking for? | 20:28 |
KlausH | I'm looking especially for ftp transfers or tries of ftp transfers. | 20:54 |
sbaur | no, it doesn't log any of that, though it sounds like an awesome RFE to me | 20:56 |
KlausH | in deed. monitoring of the backup system would be fine :-) | 20:59 |
KlausH | with email alert if something goes wrong | 20:59 |
sbaur | I'd gladly add karma to that RFE | 21:02 |
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CIA-82 | webgui: Chris Hanson master * r8ae2457 / (2 files in 2 dirs): fixed AssetReport: "Order the results by" issues (#12227) - http://git.io/8L81dg | 23:53 |
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CIA-82 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * rd400484 / lib/WebGUI/Asset/Wobject/Collaboration.pm : Always take the latest revision of the Asset when updating subscribers, since it will always be locked in a version tag. - http://git.io/bbDFHQ | 02:45 |
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elnino | help? | 07:25 |
elnino | anyone still here? | 07:25 |
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+perlDreamer | morning, folks | 19:41 |
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CIA-82 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r7a89bf1 / (5 files in 5 dirs): Remove a template attachment in the Search namespace. Add tests to check all other template attachments. Fixes bug #12238. - http://git.io/kiTPxw | 03:29 |
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SDuensin | Greetings. | 16:45 |
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SquOnk | Greetings. | 18:29 |
SquOnk | I found something wrong with <tmpl_var head.tags> | 18:29 |
SquOnk | I'm getting a bunch of <link href="/article.css" rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" /> when one will suffice. | 18:30 |
SquOnk | Look at http://nuevo.globovision.com and ask for page source. | 18:30 |
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SquOnk | It looks like it's including article.css for each article showing up in the page, but I can't figure out where that is happening :/ | 18:51 |
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+perlDreamer | haarg, please don't merge the PageLoad plugin yet | 19:04 |
+perlDreamer | it needs some help with user permissions, because it overwrites cache files that then become owned by root | 19:04 |
+BartJol | SquOnk: well, the article template sounds most lotigal | 19:14 |
+BartJol | logical | 19:14 |
+BartJol | sometimes that stuff is in the metadata tab | 19:15 |
SquOnk | BartJol: Right, but how does it end being a part of <tmpl_var head.tags> | 19:16 |
SquOnk | ? | 19:16 |
+BartJol | well, if it is in the metadata I can imagine that it is put in there | 19:16 |
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SquOnk | BartJol: I mean, what goes into head.tags doesn't get checked for duplicates, right? | 19:18 |
+BartJol | oh, like that | 19:18 |
+BartJol | won a beerbrewing competition yesterday, maybe i'm not up to par yet | 19:18 |
SquOnk | BartJol: Heh :) | 19:19 |
+BartJol | but I wouldn't know about that | 19:19 |
* SquOnk misses dutch and belgian beer | 19:19 | |
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+BartJol | well it was an american pale ale | 19:19 |
SquOnk | BartJol: But no, the Articles don't have extra head tags. | 19:22 |
+BartJol | mmm, strange | 19:23 |
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SquOnk | If I wanted Articles to have some default templates, I would have to use a Prototype, right? Is there another way? | 20:15 |
+perlDreamer | SquOnk, if you don't want duplicates in your head tags, then use template attachments for JS and CSS | 20:20 |
+perlDreamer | that's what it's for | 20:20 |
SquOnk | perlDreamer: I see. I was trying to figure out where would be the right place to attempt duplicate detection for head.tags | 20:21 |
+perlDreamer | a lot is already done via setScript and setLink | 20:21 |
+perlDreamer | but if people add things to extraHeadTags in an asset | 20:21 |
+perlDreamer | they are added raw | 20:21 |
SquOnk | perlDreamer: I'm checking for extraHeadTags, but I have nothing. | 20:29 |
SquOnk | perlDreamer: So I'm still wondering where did they came from. | 20:29 |
+perlDreamer | you checked all the assets and their templates? | 20:30 |
SquOnk | perlDreamer: The page (in case you looked at it) is build with a dozen Shortcut to Artciles. | 20:30 |
SquOnk | perlDreamer: The Assets, yes. The Templates, on to it. | 20:30 |
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+perlDreamer | any luck hunting, SquOnk? | 21:12 |
SquOnk | perlDreamer: Not really, had to go. | 21:43 |
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+perlDreamer | frodwith, would you please +op daviddelikat? | 00:16 |
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+perlDreamer | thank you sir | 00:17 |
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SDuensin | Greetings. | 16:45 |
@scrottie | mornin' | 16:55 |
@scrottie | daviddelikat, I didn't say hi to you before I took off. so, here's a belated welcome to the circus. | 16:57 |
@scrottie | m | 17:19 |
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* scrottie waves hullo to perlDreamer | 18:30 | |
+perlDreamer | scrottie! | 18:30 |
+perlDreamer | You're alive | 18:30 |
+perlDreamer | How was Europe? | 18:31 |
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@scrottie | Europe was awesome. The Dutch drive like Germans. The French are way chill as long as you're not being inconsiderate. | 18:41 |
@scrottie | diverse. | 18:42 |
@scrottie | WiFi, especially free WiFi, is hard to come by. | 18:45 |
CIA-82 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r36f818e / (docs/changelog/7.x.x.txt lib/WebGUI/Shop/Cart.pm): Check for mixed items in the cart AFTER processing delete requests. Fixes bug #12239. - http://git.io/4MPN_g | 18:47 |
@scrottie | did Iceland Air and had a 24 hour layover there and especially enjoyed that. | 18:47 |
@scrottie | Iceland is crawling with backpackers and there are campgrounds, inexpensive casual breakfest joints and all sorts of stuff catering to them. it's a really easy, friendly place to go bumming around for a while. everywhere I went in Europe, people were awesome, though. | 18:49 |
+perlDreamer | I had no problems getting WiFi in Germany, but we mainly spent time in Stuttgart | 18:53 |
@scrottie | the Thalys high speed train was my favorite. 10 euros for Internet for the trip. it took 10 minutes to re-train on the satellite after going through a tunnel. it went through a tunnel every 15 minutes. | 18:59 |
@scrottie | only the British can give a train the feel of a sophisticated nightclub, though. | 19:00 |
+perlDreamer | heh | 19:07 |
+perlDreamer | someday, when I'm rich, I want to travel Europe by train in a sleeper car | 19:07 |
@scrottie | we were thinking Amsterdam<->Paris by sleeper too but high speed rail seems to have put them out of business | 19:10 |
@scrottie | I think they're still around for different places | 19:11 |
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@scrottie | Sartak just walked in to this coffee shop and sat down. | 20:40 |
+perlDreamer | Be sure to tell him about WebGUI | 20:43 |
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SquOnk | Greetings. | 22:17 |
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@daviddelikat1 | question: | 23:22 |
SquOnk | answer: | 23:22 |
@daviddelikat1 | if you | 23:23 |
@daviddelikat1 | HAVE to have a memorable secure password | 23:23 |
@daviddelikat1 | how do you select it? | 23:23 |
SquOnk | Memorable secure... | 23:23 |
SquOnk | ...as in really hard to guess, but really easy for you to remember? | 23:23 |
@daviddelikat1 | exactly | 23:23 |
SquOnk | And also, statistically sound (as in good entropy)? | 23:23 |
@daviddelikat1 | yes | 23:24 |
SquOnk | daviddelikat1: Well, there are two schools of tought regarding that. | 23:24 |
SquOnk | daviddelikat1: First idea. | 23:24 |
SquOnk | Take this password | 23:24 |
SquOnk | Gabpqeyl! | 23:24 |
SquOnk | Looks absolutely random, right? | 23:24 |
@daviddelikat1 | yes | 23:25 |
SquOnk | However, it stands for 'Gloria al bravo pueblo que el yugo lanzó!' | 23:25 |
SquOnk | ...first verse of the venezuelan national anthem. | 23:25 |
SquOnk | Quite hard for me to forget :) | 23:25 |
@daviddelikat1 | and that means something to you, rhgit? | 23:25 |
SquOnk | So take any song, poem, or phrase you're fond of and use it. | 23:26 |
@daviddelikat1 | and you don't expect too many venezuelans to try it | 23:26 |
SquOnk | Add a bang or do the usual l33t translations and you're onto something. | 23:26 |
SquOnk | Not really, no :) I use that as an example of good password creation to my fellow venezuelan citizens so they "click" | 23:26 |
SquOnk | They end up using their favorite song or phrase. | 23:27 |
SquOnk | Ifyl0fd! | 23:27 |
@daviddelikat1 | I've heard of that system | 23:27 |
SquOnk | "I find your lack of faith disturbing!" | 23:27 |
SquOnk | (note zero replacing oh) | 23:27 |
SquOnk | So, that's one idea. | 23:28 |
@daviddelikat1 | my problem is that I don't have any one song or such that I'm that fond of | 23:28 |
SquOnk | The other idea is to use four dictionary words that are usually unrelated but create a "picture" in your mind that you can recall easily | 23:28 |
SquOnk | naked women playing banjo | 23:29 |
SquOnk | There, you won't be able to forget that ever. | 23:29 |
SquOnk | Statistically, there's more entropy in the second method, although it seems that a brute force attack would be easier. It's not :) | 23:29 |
SquOnk | If you go the extra mile and capitalize, dash the words together or l33t them, it's even better. | 23:30 |
@daviddelikat1 | thanks | 23:31 |
@daviddelikat1 | I'll have to spend some time picking new passwords now. | 23:31 |
@daviddelikat1 | I've been using my current set foe way too long | 23:31 |
@daviddelikat1 | I gotta head out | 23:32 |
SquOnk | daviddelikat1: You're welcome. | 23:32 |
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SquOnk | Greetings. | 15:51 |
SDuensin | Morning. | 16:44 |
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vanjwilson | strange, I'm been developing a small web app with webgui on a development server and every 2 weeks, I've been backing up the database and the uploads folder and pushing them to a production server, worked fine last 2 times, but today, all my pages except the home page come up as missing URLs (and I can see the changes on the home page). Anybody have any ideas? | 22:12 |
@scrottie | how are you backing up the database? | 22:14 |
@scrottie | are you doing a mysqldump? | 22:14 |
vanjwilson | I am using wgd to backup the db on the dev server, and wgd on the staging server to delete the old db and restore the new one | 22:25 |
vanjwilson | (wgd worked the last 2 times) | 22:26 |
@scrottie | alright, that should work. that uses mysqldump under the hood. | 22:33 |
@scrottie | anything in the webgui.log or httpd's error_log? | 22:33 |
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