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| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * rcb8c8da / (2 files in 2 dirs): Per item shipping. - http://bit.ly/cjR4ML | 02:42 |
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| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r0179930 / lib/WebGUI/Shop/Cart.pm : Give the perItem dropdowns the same class name. - http://bit.ly/9oWXbZ | 02:45 |
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| bsdwarrior2 | What is the most common used/working os/distro for webgui? have been having trouble installing under freebsd | 04:08 |
| +perlDreamer | bsdwarrior2, most people use either a red hat-ish, or a debian-ish | 04:22 |
| +perlDreamer | a lot of the devs use Mac OS X | 04:22 |
| bsdwarrior2 | i downloaded the freebsd binary and it bombs all over the place .specifically about config::json | 04:22 |
| +perlDreamer | hm, that's actually good news | 04:23 |
| +perlDreamer | the WRE does not contain EVERY module that WebGUI needs | 04:23 |
| +perlDreamer | but only those that were needed when it was last released | 04:23 |
| +perlDreamer | did you try running the testEnvironment.pl script, in /data/WebGUI/sbin? | 04:23 |
| +perlDreamer | pass it the --simpleReport switch to get a listing of what is out of data for the installed version of WebGUI | 04:25 |
| bsdwarrior2 | dont have that script only have setenvironment.pl | 04:25 |
| +perlDreamer | do you have a /data/WebGUI directory? | 04:25 |
| bsdwarrior2 | yes | 04:25 |
| +perlDreamer | and, inside it, there's a sbin sub-directory? | 04:25 |
| bsdwarrior2 | yes | 04:25 |
| +perlDreamer | /data/WebGUI/sbin/testEnvironment.pl | 04:25 |
| +perlDreamer | that's what you want | 04:26 |
| +perlDreamer | you have to run it from that directory | 04:26 |
| +perlDreamer | it's kind of picky that way | 04:26 |
| bsdwarrior2 | that file does not exist in wre-0.9.3-freebsd-6.2-ia32.tar.gz | 04:27 |
| bsdwarrior2 | plus Im already running perl & mysql. I dont need to run that two times on my system. It almost seems like this software should be put in a vm. | 04:28 |
| +perlDreamer | you could run it in a vm | 04:28 |
| +perlDreamer | also, you don't have to run the WRE to use WebGUI | 04:29 |
| +perlDreamer | but it's very tightly integrated and tuned to work well | 04:29 |
| +perlDreamer | so it's either all or none | 04:29 |
| +perlDreamer | can't use just pieces of the WRE | 04:29 |
| bsdwarrior2 | which distro is the most updated? debian, ubuntu? | 04:30 |
| +perlDreamer | neither, both? | 04:31 |
| +perlDreamer | they're all released as a set | 04:31 |
| +perlDreamer | for all platforms | 04:31 |
| +perlDreamer | you might want to check out these instructions for installing the WRE: http://www.webgui.org/wiki/wre-installation | 04:32 |
| +perlDreamer | there's also a wiki page for building the WRE on BSD | 04:32 |
| bsdwarrior2 | well it dont work on freebsd 8.0 this does not seem very freebsd friendly. Will have to put this in a vm with linux. I can't have this software take over a production system. Dont mean to be a smart ass, thanks for the help | 04:34 |
| +perlDreamer | well, like I mentioned earlier, you don't have to use the WRE to use WebGUI | 04:35 |
| +perlDreamer | but as you will. | 04:35 |
| bsdwarrior2 | the source still packages perl mysql,etc. what good does that do me? | 04:36 |
| +perlDreamer | that's the WRE source | 04:38 |
| +perlDreamer | try downloading the WebGUI source itself | 04:38 |
| bsdwarrior2 | ok | 04:38 |
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| kimd | Morning preaction! Logging the channel? Or did you fall asleep in front of your computer? | 10:29 |
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| +perlDreamer | upgraded to Ubuntu 10.4 | 19:47 |
| +perlDreamer | not too shabby | 19:47 |
| +perlDreamer | but the debian webgui package was a big pain | 19:47 |
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| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r69a2710 / t/Shop/TaxDriver/EU.t : Update the EU tax test for new Cart code. - http://bit.ly/cCGxR9 | 08:57 |
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| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * rd2d50d8 / lib/WebGUI/Content/Wizard.pm : POD for Content/Wizard - http://bit.ly/cFymaL | 09:24 |
| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r3eb479c / lib/WebGUI/Content/Setup.pm : Fix module usage. - http://bit.ly/cwlPvs | 09:26 |
| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * rb2cf1cc / docs/upgrades/packages-7.9.4/greenportal.wgpkg : Fix bad extras in the greenportal package. - http://bit.ly/cieVnH | 09:30 |
| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * rcbad514 / (3 files): Fix bad gateway macros in the new style templates. - http://bit.ly/9GYKNm | 09:35 |
| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r6a77eb0 / docs/upgrades/packages-7.9.4/greenportal.wgpkg : Fix bad extras macros in the greenportal style. - http://bit.ly/cq126J | 09:37 |
| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r884e61a / lib/WebGUI/Help/PayDriver_ITransact.pm : Fix broken ITransact template variable help - http://bit.ly/bERZ2r | 09:39 |
| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r02c4c5c / (t/Macro/MiniCart.t t/Shop/PayDriver.t): Cleanup tests that were leaking carts. - http://bit.ly/9I1uVs | 09:54 |
| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * rc6b3438 / t/lib/WebGUI/Test.pm : Add cleanup for Workflow Instances. - http://bit.ly/blZuLj | 10:17 |
| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * rdbca5b3 / (2 files in 2 dirs): Cleanup more tests that are leaking carts due to address book useId issues. - http://bit.ly/9iKGFU | 10:17 |
| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r4a9a46f / (lib/WebGUI/Cache/CHI.pm t/Cache/CHI.t): Add missing module to Cache::CHI. Fix tests to add a cache config if the current config file does not have one. - http://bit.ly/dbbQmW | 10:28 |
| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r8fe4c33 / t/Content/Setup.t : Update Content::Setup test for new WebGUI::Wizard - http://bit.ly/bUUvip | 10:37 |
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| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r29d0d72 / t/Shop/PayDriver/Ogone.t : Fix a syntax error I introduced into the Ogone test. - http://bit.ly/bm87JW | 10:51 |
| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r42a6b61 / (2 files in 2 dirs): Fix a bad delete button in the view inbox template. Fixes bug #11547 - http://bit.ly/baIQLd | 10:56 |
| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.8 * r5df334b / (2 files in 2 dirs): Fix a bad delete button in the view inbox template. Fixes bug #11547 - http://bit.ly/9zIxDC | 10:58 |
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| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * rb9c2a3b / (3 files in 3 dirs): Make the Date macro handle leading and trailing whitespace. Fixes bug #11542. - http://bit.ly/cdSPjq | 11:08 |
| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.8 * r0f4066c / (3 files in 3 dirs): Make the Date macro handle leading and trailing whitespace. Fixes bug #11542. - http://bit.ly/d3pGma | 11:08 |
| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.8 * rdc60d01 / (2 files in 2 dirs): Really make the wiki sort by popularity (then lineage). Fixes bug #11537 - http://bit.ly/9AKae2 | 11:18 |
| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r1c70821 / (2 files in 2 dirs): Really make the wiki sort by popularity (then lineage). Fixes bug #11537 - http://bit.ly/910Mva | 11:18 |
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| @preaction | what if the WRE did not include the CPAN dependencies? | 02:43 |
| +perlDreamer | the WRE needs some base modules to start with, like Config::JSON | 02:45 |
| +perlDreamer | JSON | 02:45 |
| +perlDreamer | It would prevent people from trying to install the WRE and then start WebGUI right away | 02:45 |
| +perlDreamer | what other advantage do you see? | 02:45 |
| +perlDreamer | it would slow down the install though | 02:46 |
| @preaction | it would allow me to make the WRE. right now I can't | 02:50 |
| @preaction | unless we drop OS X as a supported WRE platform | 02:51 |
| +perlDreamer | what won't build on Mac OS X now? | 03:09 |
| @preaction | Class::MOP in 32-bit compatibility mode | 03:12 |
| @preaction | but then it's been a few months since i've tried | 03:12 |
| +perlDreamer | preaction: just as a heads up | 03:38 |
| +perlDreamer | spent about an hour last night cleaning up the new style | 03:38 |
| +perlDreamer | bad macros, bad URLs and other issues | 03:38 |
| @preaction | which new style? | 03:38 |
| +perlDreamer | crystalx, underground, and the green one | 03:38 |
| +perlDreamer | none of them were i18n'ed | 03:38 |
| +perlDreamer | and still aren't | 03:38 |
| +perlDreamer | also, they're currently all deployed into the root/import | 03:39 |
| +perlDreamer | is that where they should live hierarchially, or should them be in some sub-folder? | 03:39 |
| @preaction | i don't know what's been decided yet, the TWG thread has been dead since i posted that i had completed my work | 03:39 |
| +perlDreamer | we need to make a decision before Tuesday's release | 03:44 |
| +perlDreamer | I'll bump the thread tomorrow | 03:44 |
| @preaction | i'm not even sure those styles will remain in the distro at all | 03:45 |
| +perlDreamer | so they'll be out before Tuesday? | 03:46 |
| @preaction | no, because nobody from TWG has responded to me | 03:46 |
| +perlDreamer | something that totally blows me away | 04:12 |
| +perlDreamer | having the formatCurrency method in the cart throw an exception if it is passed an empty string or undef has exposed tons of cart bugs | 04:13 |
| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * rd92347b / lib/WebGUI/Shop/Cart.pm : Use a method rather than reinventing the getPaymentGateway method. - http://bit.ly/cJGPR0 | 04:13 |
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| +bartjol | aaah sometimes I forget features of webgui | 18:22 |
| +perlDreamer | it _is_ big | 18:27 |
| ckotil | and beautiful | 18:31 |
| +bartjol | I almost volunteered for writing a plugin (it's a syndication project), till I realized a httpproxy wobject would do the trick | 18:35 |
| +bartjol | ah, and I see that I conclude the same as other people on the anonymous registration forum posts | 18:36 |
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| @scrottie | life is good. | 20:24 |
| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r24b1682 / (3 files in 2 dirs): i18n for the PayDriver summary variables. - http://bit.ly/cl0J8h | 20:27 |
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| @preaction | good is okay, but amazing would be good | 20:30 |
| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r127e963 / docs/upgrades/packages-7.9.4/shopping-cart-collateral-items.wgpkg : Change location of yesNo and i18n for chooseing same shipping and billing addresses. - http://bit.ly/cFimRH | 20:49 |
| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r9e2e39c / docs/upgrades/packages-7.9.4/shopping-cart-collateral-items.wgpkg : Fix a template typo. - http://bit.ly/cd9J7j | 20:53 |
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| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r0c4cb91 / (3 files in 2 dirs): Update template variables for ITransact payment driver. - http://bit.ly/9AixML | 23:45 |
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| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r36169ef / (3 files in 2 dirs): Template variable help docs for the Ogone template. - http://bit.ly/aV348f | 00:06 |
| kimd | Is it possible to execute macros in "extra head tags" under metadata? | 00:08 |
| +perlDreamer | I can't remember in which order that's done, kimd | 00:09 |
| kimd | At the moment, macros seem to return nothing. | 00:09 |
| kimd | The problem I have is that I want to add meta data to my site for sharing functions. | 00:10 |
| +perlDreamer | they can't return nothing unless they're being executed | 00:10 |
| kimd | Well, in that case they seem to be executed. | 00:10 |
| kimd | I have the following in the header section: | 00:11 |
| kimd | <meta name="description" content="<tmpl_var synopsis escape="html">" /> | 00:11 |
| kimd | And I get the following in the page source: | 00:11 |
| kimd | <meta name="description" content="" /> | 00:11 |
| +perlDreamer | that means there is no synopsis for the page | 00:11 |
| kimd | Ah. I meant tamplate vars, of course. | 00:11 |
| kimd | Nothing to do with macros at all. | 00:12 |
| +perlDreamer | no | 00:12 |
| +perlDreamer | and in a style template, synopsis would probably be the synopsis of the template | 00:12 |
| kimd | But isn't the synopsis auto-generated? I am talking about the collaboration system here. | 00:12 |
| +perlDreamer | not the page that's using it | 00:12 |
| kimd | Hm. Anyway I can get the synopsis of the thread being rendered into the html header? | 00:13 |
| kimd | Any way ... | 00:13 |
| +perlDreamer | yes | 00:14 |
| kimd | ? | 00:14 |
| +perlDreamer | thinking... | 00:14 |
| kimd | Am I supposed to think? | 00:14 |
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| kimd | I am no longer capable of doing that. It is past 11 over here and I spent two hours on finding a solution for this. | 00:15 |
| +perlDreamer | In Asset.pm, processStyle adds the synopsis to the style template automatically | 00:15 |
| +perlDreamer | so it surprises me that it isn't happening already | 00:15 |
| kimd | Are you saying, that the template var should get replaced with the synopsis in fact? | 00:16 |
| +perlDreamer | no | 00:16 |
| +perlDreamer | it should show up along with all the other automatically made extra head tags | 00:16 |
| kimd | Why should it show up in head tags? It is definitely not there. Only a title element providing some information. | 00:17 |
| kimd | And that is auto-generated. | 00:17 |
| +perlDreamer | so, for a little context, you built a CS | 00:18 |
| +perlDreamer | added threads and posts | 00:18 |
| +perlDreamer | and when you view a post, you want to see the synopsis from the post show up in the head tags? | 00:19 |
| xdanger | ^Page(synopsis); ? | 00:19 |
| kimd | perlDreamer, that is exactly what I want to do. | 00:20 |
| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * re21ce2c / (2 files in 2 dirs): Template variable help docs for the Cash plugin - http://bit.ly/c006Hd | 00:21 |
| kimd | When using AddThis.com sharing functionality expects the respective information provided via head meta tags. | 00:21 |
| kimd | Facebook expects... | 00:21 |
| +perlDreamer | kimd, I'd have to build one (probably using a demo site) to see what's going on. | 00:22 |
| +perlDreamer | If it doesn't show the Synopsis from the Thread in the head tags, it is definitely a bug | 00:22 |
| +perlDreamer | but WebGUI doesn't let you display just 1 post | 00:22 |
| +perlDreamer | so if it's the Post you're looking for, it will not work | 00:23 |
| +perlDreamer | whenever you view a post, it always shows the Thread that contains it | 00:23 |
| kimd | No, it's fine to get the synopsis of the thread. | 00:23 |
| kimd | But the respective template var seems to be empty. | 00:23 |
| +perlDreamer | it wouldn't show up in the synopsis variable | 00:24 |
| +perlDreamer | it would show up in... | 00:24 |
| kimd | @xdanger: ^Page(synopsis); returns the expected result, btw | 00:24 |
| +perlDreamer | head.tags template variable | 00:25 |
| kimd | Ok. So, it's not possible to access regular template variables of an arbitrary asset in the extra head tags session? | 00:26 |
| +perlDreamer | no, because those template variables aren't available there | 00:27 |
| kimd | Oh, that is making everything a lot more complicated. In addition to the synopsis I would require thumbnails as well. | 00:28 |
| kimd | But the page macro should work, correct? | 00:28 |
| +perlDreamer | you sure you don't want an RSS Feed? | 00:28 |
| kimd | No. Definitely not. These are in place already. Some users have requested "Share on..." functionality. | 00:28 |
| kimd | AddThis is taking care of pretty much everything. Except for thumbnails. | 00:29 |
| kimd | Those need to be specified in the header. | 00:29 |
| @preaction | you could override getMetaDataAsTemplateVariables in the asset you're using to put some template vars in the head block | 00:31 |
| kimd | Ok. Going to bed. Thanks for your time, perlDreamer. Very much appreciated. | 00:31 |
| kimd | I am going to write a few tests in return ;-) | 00:31 |
| +perlDreamer | I wish I had a better answer for you, kimd | 00:32 |
| +perlDreamer | I'm sorry | 00:32 |
| @preaction | but really, why don't we have the same set of vars in the head block as the body? | 00:32 |
| @preaction | it would take like 5 minutes to do | 00:32 |
| +perlDreamer | preaction, they're _supposed_ to be in the head tags already, from what I can see | 00:32 |
| +perlDreamer | both prepareView and processStyle add the synopsis | 00:32 |
| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r4933e5d / (5 files in 2 dirs): Template variable help for the Pay Pal modules, and name the ITransact template better. - http://bit.ly/918Kbp | 00:33 |
| @preaction | i'm looking at WebGUI::Asset::Template->prepare | 00:33 |
| +perlDreamer | Asset->processStyle says the synopsis is added | 00:36 |
| +perlDreamer | likewise with prepareView | 00:36 |
| kimd | preaction, would that be possible? Should I submit an RFE on that? | 00:41 |
| kimd | One could at least add those variables provided through prepareView, right? | 00:41 |
| @preaction | yes, but it changes where the computationally expensive stuff happens | 00:42 |
| @preaction | i would say it's a bug in AddThis that they require something from the head block and can't get it passed in | 00:42 |
| @preaction | alternatively, you could add the extra tag in the head block through javascript | 00:43 |
| kimd | In fact, it seems to be an issue with facebook. There is a mechanism for passing such data. The "description" metadata, however, is being ignored. And for thumbnails you need to link them inside the header. | 00:45 |
| kimd | Very stupid, very inconvenient to handle. | 00:45 |
| kimd | But JS may be a solution to that. I will have a look at it tomorrow. | 00:46 |
| @preaction | so it's facebook grabbing the page and grepping for a meta tag with the image? | 00:46 |
| @preaction | if so, JS won't work, as it probably won't be a web browser | 00:46 |
| kimd | It seems so. | 00:46 |
| kimd | Hm. If you look at it that way. Yeah, you are right. | 00:47 |
| kimd | Does it make sense to submit that RFE? Or would it get rejected due to performance issues? | 00:47 |
| @preaction | this would make a good rfe though: http://wiki.developers.facebook.com/index.php/Facebook_Share/Specifying_Meta_Tags | 00:47 |
| @preaction | being able to specify extra head tags stuff. you could just write it directly in prepareView | 00:48 |
| kimd | I cannot follow. Do you suggest to have these tags be auto-generated? | 00:49 |
| @preaction | yes. have the asset generate the tags itself | 00:49 |
| kimd | Can we have that in the core? I mean, it's only facebook and probably a view community sites that require those tags. And possible Google... | 00:50 |
| @preaction | it's one of those things probably nobody thought to ask for, they don't know they want it yet | 00:52 |
| kimd | Well, I will write an RFE tomorrow and wait for your / JTs reply. | 00:53 |
| kimd | But now I am definitely going to bed. Good night everyone. | 00:53 |
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| +perlDreamer | preaction, I'm still neck deep in Cart 1.5, and soon the wiki, but I think that what he wants should already work | 00:53 |
| @preaction | it doesn't. only metadata variables are available in the extra head tags block of a template | 00:54 |
| +perlDreamer | synopsis is treated like a metadata variable | 00:54 |
| @preaction | but synopsis doesn't have the storage location | 00:55 |
| +perlDreamer | that's a separate problem, and one that can be solved with a macro? | 00:56 |
| +perlDreamer | ^Page(storageId); | 00:56 |
| @preaction | but why force users to go through that when they just want facebook sharing to work? | 00:57 |
| @preaction | and it's more: ^StorageUrl(^Page(storageId);,"thumb"); | 00:57 |
| +perlDreamer | sure, once you have the storageId it's all downhill from there | 00:57 |
| +perlDreamer | about users, I guess it's just a balance between how much processing it takes, how much extra data it is to download, versus how many people use it | 00:58 |
| +perlDreamer | you wouldn't see many intranet pages being posted on Facebook :) | 00:58 |
| @preaction | that could be a config setting "enable social networking features" | 01:00 |
| +perlDreamer | yeah | 01:02 |
| +perlDreamer | or like mobileStyle | 01:02 |
| @preaction | i think it might be a good idea to have packs of these kinds of things, mixins that extend current asset behaviors. plack middlewares will make this easy, as long as we pass around objects instead of HTML | 01:05 |
| @preaction | that way you can have a bare-bones WebGUI with nothing, or you can layer on features you want and leave out features you don't | 01:05 |
| +perlDreamer | I like that | 01:08 |
| @preaction | imagine being able to hack additional template tags into an existing asset without having to subclass or edit the asset itself | 01:13 |
| +perlDreamer | like via a role? | 01:13 |
| +perlDreamer | I guess that's editing the asset... | 01:13 |
| @preaction | well, you could force extra stuff into the class, but i was thinking more like pre- or post-processing to change behaviors | 01:14 |
| @preaction | it's... kinda possible in the 7x, but it's easier in Plack, and even easier once we get really lazy about how a response is constructed | 01:15 |
| +perlDreamer | the cat's out of the bag, now | 01:17 |
| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * rec2d6a8 / (docs/changelog/7.x.x.txt docs/gotcha.txt): Document Shop and Cart changes for users. - http://bit.ly/aqkASW | 01:17 |
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| CIA-104 | webgui: Paul Driver master * re26723f / (lib/WebGUI/Shop/Cart.pm www/extras/shop/cart.js): handling per-item shipping dropdowns in js - http://bit.ly/cCzhV1 | 03:06 |
| CIA-104 | webgui: Paul Driver master * ra6a7c6c / www/extras/shop/cart.js : fixing possible price summary update bug - | 03:24 |
| CIA-104 | webgui: Paul Driver master * r10d86db / www/extras/shop/cart.js : send billing info as shipping in updateSummary if box is checked - | 03:33 |
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| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.8 * ref53ad0 / (2 files in 2 dirs): Add the missing documentation for the by keyword template in the WikiMaster. - http://bit.ly/9zjcbh | 04:55 |
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| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * rb2dd613 / (2 files in 2 dirs): Add the missing documentation for the by keyword template in the WikiMaster. - http://bit.ly/aQuTP1 | 05:10 |
| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r5afdefe / lib/WebGUI/Asset/Wobject/WikiMaster.pm : Foundational work for wiki sub-keywords. - http://bit.ly/ar3lCt | 05:10 |
| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r3ea9f29 / lib/WebGUI/Asset/Wobject/WikiMaster.pm : add a method to save the new keywords from the from in www_byKeyword. - http://bit.ly/atJcsw | 05:30 |
| @preaction | Dancer got a lot of things right, but it's got a lot of growing to do | 05:57 |
| @preaction | and damnit, like everyone else it seems to think "app == site" | 06:01 |
| +perlDreamer | you like app == url better, right? | 06:18 |
| ckotil | im content with app=iphone | 06:22 |
| ckotil | and spirit rocks. for jailbreaking my stupid phone | 06:22 |
| ckotil | i accidentally let it uprgrade itself a few months ago, and ive been unable to jailbreak it until today | 06:23 |
| @preaction | i like "app == set of URLs" | 06:28 |
| @preaction | app == way to display content. site == set of apps | 06:28 |
| ckotil | an app to me is a set of tool(s) that does what i need | 06:31 |
| @preaction | well that could describe a site too, so what's unique about an app? | 06:34 |
| ckotil | nothing. a site can be ana pp | 06:41 |
| ckotil | app too | 06:41 |
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| @preaction | "can be", yes, but not "must be". so a site has other things that distinguish it from just an app (like, perhaps, other apps) | 06:42 |
| ckotil | yeah | 06:58 |
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| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r7dd02d6 / lib/WebGUI/Asset/Wobject/WikiMaster.pm : Pull hierarchial keywords from the wiki, instead of pages in it. - http://bit.ly/98aBIa | 07:28 |
| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r3096054 / (2 files in 2 dirs): Template variable help for the new wiki sub-keywords. - http://bit.ly/ao5FXg | 07:34 |
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| SDuensin | Howdy. | 17:15 |
| +bartjol | rawhide! | 17:19 |
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| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r9840031 / (2 files in 2 dirs): Shade the buttons with CSS. Don't show per-item shipping if there's only 1 item in the cart. - http://bit.ly/bNPcvf | 20:21 |
| +perlDreamer | I learned something new about WebGUI today | 20:21 |
| +perlDreamer | for years, I've set ID's on HTML form elements using the extras parameter | 20:21 |
| +perlDreamer | extras => q|id="myId"| | 20:21 |
| +perlDreamer | but today I learned that you can set it directly | 20:21 |
| +perlDreamer | id => "myId" | 20:22 |
| +perlDreamer | Form::Control takes that and does the right thing | 20:22 |
| +perlDreamer | and, unlike the extras, if you give the form element a name, it won't override the id | 20:23 |
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| Diggy | greetz to all! | 20:57 |
| +perlDreamer | yo, Diggy | 20:57 |
| * perlDreamer is heading to the library, be back in a bit | 20:58 | |
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| Diggy | brb | 21:00 |
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| Diggy | yeesh, i had to work! | 21:23 |
| Diggy | ok, i'm ready to pull the trigger on buying a couple of webgui books | 21:24 |
| Diggy | using OPM, of course | 21:24 |
| Diggy | but, i forgot which ones would be most useful | 21:25 |
| Diggy | (sex, drugs, and rock 'n' roll have killed off all but 3 brain cells) | 21:26 |
| Diggy | i think pD mentioned Content Manager's Guide, and the Designer's Guide | 21:26 |
| Diggy | i DO need the steenkeeng manuals! | 21:27 |
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| @bopbop | diggy: what is your role... what kind of work will you be doing on the site? Content Managers will give instructions on how to use all the assets and give a brief intro to workflow. Design Guide will give tips for templating said assets. | 21:28 |
| Diggy | well, we're a 75-person (and growing) shop, so i do it all | 21:28 |
| Diggy | i thing Designer's Guide, for sure | 21:29 |
| @bopbop | you can get a preview of each on lulu-- it'll give you glimpse at the table of contents for each | 21:29 |
| @bopbop | might help | 21:29 |
| Diggy | i'll do that | 21:29 |
| Diggy | at least i'm fairly sure that i'll get the Designer's Guide | 21:30 |
| Diggy | btw, do any of the proceeds from sale of books go to support the project? | 21:30 |
| @bopbop | to be honest, there isn't much overhead | 21:31 |
| @bopbop | they're really expensive to publish | 21:31 |
| Diggy | ok. i do like to support foss when i can | 21:32 |
| @bopbop | but yes, anything you purchase from plainblack does funnel back in - in some way or the other | 21:32 |
| Diggy | good 2 know | 21:32 |
| Diggy | just took a look at the toc's of the various books | 21:38 |
| Diggy | i guess Administrator's Guide would be useful, 2 | 21:38 |
| Diggy | (2 books blows my budget :-) | 21:39 |
| @bopbop | yeah- it's a bit outdated, but still relevant | 21:39 |
| Diggy | do you have any idea how often they're updated? | 21:39 |
| @bopbop | normally, we update about once a year- the admin guide has been about two years | 21:39 |
| @bopbop | however, it's still current enough | 21:40 |
| Diggy | ok | 21:40 |
| @bopbop | there aren't too many major changes | 21:40 |
| Diggy | as i mentioned last chat, i need to get up 2 speed pretty quickly | 21:41 |
| Diggy | am just smart enough to figure many thing out myself | 21:41 |
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| Diggy | sorry i can't chat some more; gotta do work | 22:15 |
| Diggy | l8r | 22:15 |
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| @preaction | perlDreamer: did you merge the spectre fix into the last 7.8 release? | 22:50 |
| +perlDreamer | I believe so | 22:50 |
| @preaction | k, just wondering | 22:50 |
| * perlDreamer will check the changelog | 22:50 | |
| +perlDreamer | 18b679d2 | 22:51 |
| +perlDreamer | that's it | 22:51 |
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| @tavisto | perlDreamer, is this interesting to you? http://packages.ubuntu.com/hu/lucid/webgui | 23:22 |
| @tavisto | This looks like a Master of the Universe @ Ubuntu devs is maintaining a wG package? | 23:23 |
| @tavisto | dionak, I wonder if William knows about this | 23:24 |
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| carogray | hi | 23:25 |
| dionak | hi carogray | 23:25 |
| dionak | perlDreamer, I'll mention it to him | 23:25 |
| carogray | can you remove sort order from a folder and organize files according to how you want | 23:25 |
| carogray | hi Dionak! | 23:25 |
| dionak | you are on my list to email. | 23:25 |
| carogray | me too | 23:26 |
| carogray | on the phone with someone who needs my help | 23:26 |
| carogray | know the answer to this one? | 23:26 |
| dionak | i think what you're looking for can be accomplished by using Rank | 23:27 |
| carogray | we did that - it works if you are logged in, but not logged in just does ascending order. | 23:27 |
| carogray | tried clearing cache - no luck | 23:27 |
| dionak | off the top of my head, i'm not sure | 23:28 |
| dionak | anyone else? | 23:28 |
| carogray | also when she first tried this, she made the new file be 1 in rank, WebGUI assigned it null! | 23:30 |
| carogray | also - this does not seem to be versioned | 23:30 |
| dionak | are you using a folder asset or the asset manager? | 23:30 |
| carogray | files are in folder | 23:31 |
| dionak | or a folder asset in the asset manager? | 23:31 |
| carogray | using asset manager for folder | 23:31 |
| dionak | k | 23:31 |
| carogray | to rank files | 23:31 |
| carogray | not sure how to do it in folder on page | 23:31 |
| carogray | cannot drag | 23:32 |
| dionak | to rank, update the numbers and click 'update' | 23:34 |
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| +perlDreamer | carogray, you cannot change the "real" order of files in a folder | 23:41 |
| +perlDreamer | the folder will only display them in lineage order (rank) or alphabetically | 23:41 |
| +perlDreamer | dionak is right on with changing the order using the AssetManager | 23:42 |
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| xdanger | Was there at some point a way to have user assigned richeditors? I have a vague memory of something like that, but was that in an older version that was dropped out or just on some design plan? | 00:07 |
| +perlDreamer | xdanger, that was back in WebGUI 5 | 00:09 |
| +perlDreamer | in 7 and above, it's sitewide | 00:09 |
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| @preaction | well, sitewide unless an asset allows for its own | 00:11 |
| xdanger | was there a reason for this? | 00:13 |
| xdanger | I have a client who wants to have different for adminis and content managers | 00:13 |
| carogray | back again | 00:19 |
| carogray | I used rank in asset manager | 00:19 |
| carogray | when logged in files display in order I ranked them | 00:20 |
| carogray | when I log out files displayed only in ascending order | 00:20 |
| carogray | have to drain potatoes back in sec | 00:20 |
| carogray | back | 00:25 |
| +perlDreamer | carogray, sounds like site caching | 00:33 |
| +perlDreamer | or, browser caching | 00:33 |
| +perlDreamer | maybe both? | 00:33 |
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| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r39b4450 / (3 files in 3 dirs): Finish wiki sub-category API code, with upgrade sub and tests. - http://bit.ly/cvFYLC | 01:05 |
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| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r960ff22 / (3 files in 3 dirs): Tests, bugfixes, and adding synopsis to the byKeyword template. - http://bit.ly/9CJuHf | 01:50 |
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| CIA-104 | webgui: khenn master * rac7ce44 / (docs/changelog/7.x.x.txt lib/WebGUI/i18n/English.pm): Added support for utf-8 characters in urls for English language pack - http://bit.ly/a0EEQl | 02:46 |
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| carogray | anyone home | 03:24 |
| carogray | ? | 03:24 |
| @scrottie | carogray, ask the question. someone will answer if and when they can. | 03:26 |
| carogray | I would like to know if, in a data form, there is a way not to have the yes no form field default to either answer, even if the answer is required AND if I have a date field if it can display as empty also. At the minute the yes no field defaults to no and the date field is already filled with today's date. I would prefer to have the date completely empty and let people pick yes or no rather than have one answer already in | 03:28 |
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| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r491c302 / (6 files in 4 dirs): Finish rework of hierarchial keywords/categories. - http://bit.ly/arWK0y | 06:44 |
| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r16cca1f / t/Asset/Wobject/WikiMaster.t : Update the test for the isTopLevel variables. - http://bit.ly/dBaWzJ | 07:11 |
| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * rd055474 / (167 files in 79 dirs): Preparing for 7.9.4 release - http://bit.ly/btuDKE | 07:18 |
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| +perlDreamer | ah, preaction | 07:39 |
| +perlDreamer | the excitement of the upgrade keeping you awake, too? | 07:39 |
| @preaction | not really, i should be in bed. | 07:40 |
| +perlDreamer | I'd like to be there myself | 08:05 |
| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r41575d2 / (4 files in 4 dirs): ready for 7.9.5 development - http://bit.ly/aUQt0f | 08:19 |
| +Radix_ | hey guys.. question for you.. I've currently got both the modproxy and modperl logging to the same file - and it means I'm getting heaps of 127.0.0.1 references in there. Should I just point modperl to another file or is there a way to turn it off? | 08:30 |
| +Radix_ | save to /dev/null I guess | 08:37 |
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| +perlDreamer | Radix_: I would try the apache docs: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/logs.html | 08:42 |
| +perlDreamer | looks like you can setup filters | 08:42 |
| +perlDreamer | check out the "Conditional logs" entry | 08:42 |
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| +Radix_ | Cool - that seems to work a treat :) | 08:50 |
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| kaare_ | Can I find any documentation about the dispatcher in Webgui? | 12:19 |
| CIA-104 | WebGUI: translation * r12487 /translations/German/German/ (Asset_MapPoint.pm Asset_WikiMaster.pm Asset_WikiPage.pm): Updating German on translation server | 12:31 |
| CIA-104 | WebGUI: translation * r12488 /translations/German/German/Asset_Template.pm: Updating German on translation server | 12:31 |
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| SDuensin | Drinko de Mayo! | 17:09 |
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| +perlDreamer | morning, folks | 18:35 |
| @preaction | morning perlDreamer! | 18:42 |
| * perlDreamer is waiting for the big one to drop | 18:42 | |
| @preaction | so am i, but i have to wait to use the restroom | 18:48 |
| +perlDreamer | having problems with the new house? | 18:52 |
| @preaction | no, just need more coffee and to work | 18:52 |
| @tavisto | preaction, the new wizard.. I've never seen languages listed as Nederlands and Deutsch in the software that I've used in the past. Is that common these days? I normally see them listed as Dutch and German | 18:52 |
| @preaction | tavisto: eh, i didn't touch that part, those are set by the translators | 18:53 |
| @tavisto | I'm guessing that those words are the titles in the respective languages, but I've just never seen that before | 18:53 |
| @tavisto | the translation server shows Dutch and German for the languages | 18:54 |
| +perlDreamer | that's because the translation server works in English only | 18:54 |
| @preaction | different choices, i dunno. that was the choice made by the developer of the dropdown thing | 18:54 |
| SDuensin | This is kinda crazy and cool: http://narwhaljs.org/ | 18:55 |
| @tavisto | Well, IMHO, it's strange and not standard | 18:56 |
| @preaction | OS X displays language names in their native text / language | 18:57 |
| SDuensin | Seems to be becoming one. | 18:57 |
| @tavisto | I guess as long as the dutch team thinks it's fine, then it's irrelevant what I think | 18:57 |
| SDuensin | Oh. Wrong conversation. :-) | 18:57 |
| @tavisto | yep good point, they do | 18:58 |
| @tavisto | perlDreamer, Australian is close at 98.9% | 18:59 |
| +perlDreamer | we do have them slotted for inclusion, but they need to show they can keep it well translated first | 18:59 |
| @tavisto | yep, I'm glad to see Russian and Polish starting to come up too | 19:00 |
| +perlDreamer | Arabic is still in freefall | 19:00 |
| +perlDreamer | hard to believe it used to be 90% | 19:00 |
| @tavisto | yeah ehab must not be very active | 19:01 |
| @preaction | there's an arabic guy on the forums right now, maybe he'll put it back up | 19:01 |
| @tavisto | preaction, that wG logo in the startup wizard is really pixelated around the edge..looks nasty on my screen | 19:09 |
| @preaction | yes, because it's supposed to have a white background, and i'm supposed to have a designer. | 19:09 |
| @preaction | transparent gifs/pngs simply do not work | 19:10 |
| @tavisto | do you mean that the purple is going away and will be white? | 19:18 |
| @preaction | no, i mean that someone's gonna have to look at it with a designer's eye, and i don't have one (or anyone with one) | 19:18 |
| @tavisto | or just that the original background on the logo was white. I have enough designer experience where I can still fix things like that | 19:18 |
| +perlDreamer | dangerous words, tavisto | 19:21 |
| +perlDreamer | run for the hills! | 19:21 |
| @tavisto | yeah well back in the day I was chief designer, developer, and consultant | 19:22 |
| +perlDreamer | developer? | 19:23 |
| +perlDreamer | you code, too? | 19:23 |
| @tavisto | unfortunately, I've moved away from all that kinda stuff these days but I still dabble when needed.. And there's much to do with Doug's new toys | 19:23 |
| @tavisto | HTML/CSS yeah | 19:23 |
| +perlDreamer | hack on, brother | 19:23 |
| @tavisto | not real programming languages though.. I leave Perl and C++ and VB to the uber nerds | 19:23 |
| @tavisto | <--- poser | 19:23 |
| +perlDreamer | aw, hackin' is hackin' | 19:24 |
| +perlDreamer | only true hackers deserve Brazilian BBQ | 19:24 |
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| +perlDreamer | seems like a year ago I was working on WebGUI 88, which is our port to Elk, or something like that | 19:46 |
| @preaction | que? | 19:51 |
| +perlDreamer | no, it was definitely WebGUI 8 | 19:52 |
| +perlDreamer | it's been so long... | 19:52 |
| +perlDreamer | and not Elk, but Antelope | 20:04 |
| +perlDreamer | Deer | 20:04 |
| +perlDreamer | Oqapi? | 20:04 |
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| +perlDreamer | hi, patspam | 20:15 |
| +patspam | hey perlDreamer | 20:15 |
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| +perlDreamer | you missed all the excitement | 20:15 |
| +perlDreamer | we hacked the Cart | 20:15 |
| +perlDreamer | and rewrote the wiki keywords/sub-categories thing | 20:15 |
| +patspam | cool! | 20:15 |
| +perlDreamer | and WebGUI will do UTF-8 urls | 20:16 |
| @preaction | and redid the setup wizard completely | 20:16 |
| +perlDreamer | and added new style templates | 20:16 |
| +patspam | far out! | 20:16 |
| +patspam | you guys have been busy | 20:16 |
| +perlDreamer | how are you doing? | 20:16 |
| @preaction | oh, and a new cache driver for 7.x that supports FastMmap and memcached | 20:17 |
| +patspam | sleepy :) | 20:17 |
| +patspam | I flew in from australia last night | 20:17 |
| +patspam | preaction: looking forward to playing with that | 20:17 |
| +patspam | I brought my road bike over this time | 20:19 |
| +perlDreamer | now you're talking! | 20:21 |
| +perlDreamer | okay, I think this finalizes it | 20:24 |
| +perlDreamer | Australian people are funnier than Americans | 20:24 |
| +perlDreamer | http://blog.oregonlive.com/commuting/2010/05/australian_distracted-driving.html | 20:24 |
| @tavisto | how much did that cost patspam!!! | 20:26 |
| @tavisto | on the airplane? | 20:26 |
| +patspam | free! | 20:26 |
| +patspam | counted as one of my bags | 20:27 |
| @tavisto | wow, that's amazing. | 20:27 |
| @tavisto | you fly Quantas? | 20:27 |
| +patspam | yeah | 20:27 |
| +patspam | I used their official bike box (cardboard) | 20:27 |
| @tavisto | they got decent rates from NYC? | 20:27 |
| +patspam | was pretty paranoid they were going to damage my bike, packed it full of padding | 20:27 |
| @tavisto | yeah I would definitely think that as well | 20:27 |
| @tavisto | and I didnt know they made special bike boxes.. hehe | 20:27 |
| +patspam | yeah it was really cheap this time around, about 1k return | 20:27 |
| +patspam | bought with about 3 days notice! | 20:28 |
| @tavisto | WOW!!!! | 20:28 |
| +patspam | I was expected 2-3 times that for such short notice | 20:28 |
| @tavisto | You realize that a normal flight from say.. Michigan to NYC last minute... would run about 1k | 20:28 |
| +patspam | must've been lucky with the season | 20:28 |
| @tavisto | let alone... an international flight | 20:28 |
| +patspam | webjet.com ftw! | 20:28 |
| @tavisto | dang. | 20:29 |
| +patspam | my last flight in feb was about 1600, and that was bought 2 months ahead of time | 20:29 |
| +perlDreamer | speaking of which, I need to set one of those up for the September time frame | 20:29 |
| +patspam | Portland -> NY -> MSN | 20:30 |
| +patspam | =p | 20:30 |
| +perlDreamer | how many bottles of scotch did you want? | 20:30 |
| +patspam | heh just one! | 20:30 |
| +patspam | people will think I'm an alcoholic ;) | 20:30 |
| +perlDreamer | at those prices, it's an investment | 20:31 |
| @tavisto | yeah best bet on flights is to keep watching from like 3 months out. Best deals are typically in between the 1-2 month time out | 20:31 |
| +patspam | interesting.. didn't know that | 20:31 |
| @tavisto | I watched George Clooney in "Up in the Air" and was like.... Yeah, this is how I try to live my life. | 20:31 |
| @tavisto | well that's the case with Delta anyway. I typically only fly with them cuz I've got status | 20:31 |
| @tavisto | although since the merger with NWA they have been absolutely dreadful most of the time... | 20:32 |
| @tavisto | NWA was a great airline. I miss it dearly. | 20:32 |
| +perlDreamer | preaction: does WebGUI8 still need Memcached::libmemcached ? | 20:33 |
| @preaction | no | 20:33 |
| +patspam | tavisto: I flew them a few times to Aus, they were cheap and good but I switched to qantas because delta don't fly direct to Melbourne | 20:34 |
| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie WebGUI8 * rd758bce / sbin/testEnvironment.pl : Remove unneeded module from testEnvironment.pl - http://bit.ly/bs2JEW | 20:34 |
| @tavisto | Quantas has cooler planes so I would rather fly with them... Their first class cabins look AMAZING (although I don't have $5-8k burning a hole in my pocket so I wouldn't do it) | 20:36 |
| @tavisto | speaking of cool, my old mighty mouse died and I got one of the new mice from apple. The touch sensors are amazing.... if anyone was doubting, definitely pick one up and give it a whirl. You'll love it | 20:37 |
| +patspam | does it have more than one button? | 20:38 |
| +perlDreamer | patspam: I upgraded to Ubuntu 10.04 | 20:41 |
| +perlDreamer | it doesn't like the WebGUI package any longer | 20:41 |
| +patspam | oh dang | 20:41 |
| +patspam | yeah I upgraded this morning too | 20:41 |
| +perlDreamer | now, after every package I add or upgrade, I get dpkq errors and warnings | 20:41 |
| +patspam | spent 10 minutes playing with empathy's IRC support and then went back to Pidgin | 20:41 |
| +patspam | hmm that's weird | 20:41 |
| +patspam | webgui borked your system? | 20:42 |
| +perlDreamer | that's the odd part | 20:42 |
| +perlDreamer | everything works | 20:42 |
| +perlDreamer | it just seems to be line noise | 20:42 |
| +patspam | what's the error? | 20:42 |
| +perlDreamer | I'll make and paste one | 20:42 |
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| +perlDreamer | http://gist.github.com/391158 | 20:45 |
| +patspam | wrong return code? | 20:46 |
| +perlDreamer | probably | 20:47 |
| +patspam | or maybe that's legit - looks like it couldn't start apache and mysql wasn't running | 20:47 |
| +perlDreamer | they're both currently running | 20:47 |
| +perlDreamer | I've been using them this morning | 20:48 |
| +patspam | oh right, mysql running, but access denied | 20:48 |
| +patspam | was something else bound to port 80? | 20:48 |
| +perlDreamer | I don't think so, but I'll ask netstat | 20:49 |
| +perlDreamer | nope | 20:50 |
| +patspam | weird | 20:50 |
| +patspam | does "/etc/init.d/apache2 restart" work now? | 20:51 |
| +perlDreamer | nope | 20:51 |
| +patspam | that's possibly a good thing - you can debug it | 20:52 |
| +patspam | those Cart improvements sound really good | 20:53 |
| +patspam | oh nice! I like underscore.js | 20:54 |
| +perlDreamer | the problem is my WebGUI8 branch install is messed up | 20:55 |
| +patspam | ah | 20:55 |
| +perlDreamer | WebGUI::Paths | 20:56 |
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| +perlDreamer | WebGUI 8 is in good shape. Only 3 failing tests from the Test::Class suite, and all in WebGUI::Asset::Story | 21:10 |
| @preaction | awesome | 21:11 |
| @preaction | you're in a race to doing the psgi test work ;), if Scott starts before you're ready, you'll be doing it together | 21:11 |
| @preaction | though perhaps that will be nice | 21:11 |
| +perlDreamer | psgi test work? | 21:12 |
| +perlDreamer | you mean for the merge? | 21:12 |
| @preaction | WebGUI::PseudoRequest needs to mock Plack::Request not Apache2::Request | 21:12 |
| +perlDreamer | ah | 21:12 |
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| @preaction | and we may have other fun things to do with the testing stuff once that happens (like no "LIVE TESTS" anymore) | 21:13 |
| +perlDreamer | you sure about that? Isn't there a null server request for Plack? | 21:13 |
| @preaction | well, there are methods that plack expects that we don't have | 21:13 |
| @preaction | "logger" is the one it's currently hung up on | 21:13 |
| +perlDreamer | between Scrottie's Perl and Plack awesomeness, and my WebGUI knowledge, we'll get it done | 21:19 |
| @preaction | well, plus you can help him navigate the weirdnesses, and hopefully you'll both come out with some ideas to fix them (or at least some troublespots to look at) | 21:20 |
| +perlDreamer | what, WebGUI and weirdness? I know not of what you speak. | 21:25 |
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| @scrottie | oh, stop... | 21:36 |
| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie WebGUI8 * r3e168b1 / (2 files in 2 dirs): Trap calls to newById inside getParent. StoryArchive should use cloneFromDb. - http://bit.ly/bMzJZ5 | 21:51 |
| +perlDreamer | that's it, we're all passing now again | 21:51 |
| +perlDreamer | except for that stupid attempt to try and run the support library | 21:51 |
| +perlDreamer | preaction, I would hazard a guess at this point, that WebGUI 8 will make content | 21:52 |
| +perlDreamer | do we need to take a step back, evaluate what's ahead of us and current status? | 21:52 |
| @preaction | no, there's a problem with the admin interface and version tags | 21:52 |
| +perlDreamer | well, I'll see about the regular test suite then | 21:53 |
| +perlDreamer | and I can add more tests to the Test::Class suite, too | 21:53 |
| +perlDreamer | between both suites, we have a fair amount of coverage of the core API | 21:53 |
| +perlDreamer | so having it working would be nice | 21:54 |
| @preaction | i think it has something to do with changes i made to www_editSave, and will be making more | 21:54 |
| @preaction | we're close, yes, very close, but not quite | 21:54 |
| * perlDreamer goes running, bbiaw | 21:57 | |
| +perlDreamer | note, everything is off today | 21:57 |
| +perlDreamer | truck is at the shop | 21:58 |
| +perlDreamer | dog is at the vet's office | 21:58 |
| +perlDreamer | kid's come home early | 21:58 |
| +perlDreamer | so I'll be in and out all day | 21:58 |
| @preaction | k | 21:58 |
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| CIA-104 | webgui: Doug Bell master * ra9b4ba1 / (3 files in 2 dirs): added new wg logo - http://bit.ly/cIMekB | 22:18 |
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| CIA-104 | webgui: Doug Bell master * r38d4631 / (3 files in 2 dirs): startup cleaning - http://bit.ly/diGQaw | 23:02 |
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| +perlDreamer | rats, going to have to bodge it | 23:36 |
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| +patspam | perlDreamer: when you're back, I'd like to map out a plan for merging psgi into WebGUI8 | 00:12 |
| +patspam | plenty of work still to be done so don't want to merge too early, but keen to do it to keep the momentum up | 00:15 |
| * patspam goes back to reassembling his bike | 00:15 | |
| @preaction | it almost looks as if update() isn't working at all | 00:16 |
| @preaction | in 8 | 00:16 |
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| +perlDreamer | preaction, which update? | 00:19 |
| @preaction | Asset->update | 00:19 |
| @preaction | delegated to WebGUI::Definition::Role::Object | 00:19 |
| @preaction | or maybe it's the write that isn't working | 00:19 |
| @preaction | like, i can't run the site starter, it sets the style template ID to wrong | 00:20 |
| +perlDreamer | I have tests for it | 00:20 |
| +perlDreamer | and it verifies some data written and read back | 00:20 |
| +perlDreamer | preaction, I'd extend the test suite to duplicate what it's doing to see if we can isolate it | 00:21 |
| @preaction | of course | 00:21 |
| @preaction | no, i see. the starter is setting it to "", and webgui is accepting it | 00:25 |
| @preaction | and this is the old starter, so i should probably merge master again | 00:26 |
| @tavisto | PERLDREAMER | 00:27 |
| @tavisto | *tavis frowns and points at perlDreamer* | 00:27 |
| @tavisto | you can run but you can't hide pD | 00:29 |
| @preaction | if i'm adding tests to Test::WebGUI::Asset, what's $tag in test->getAnchoredAsset? | 00:48 |
| @preaction | nm, found it | 00:49 |
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| @preaction_ | perlDreamer: if I commit a failing test, can you help? (not necessarily now, later is fine too) | 00:57 |
| +perlDreamer | if you commit a failing test, it costs 1 tooth | 01:31 |
| @preaction_ | it looks like the session is getting completely cleared out between each call to ->session | 01:32 |
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| @preaction_ | the real problem is that addRevision creates a new version tag, even though there is a current working tag | 01:34 |
| +perlDreamer | addRevision shouldn't do that | 01:34 |
| +perlDreamer | it should use the existing tag | 01:34 |
| @preaction_ | right, but the session->stow doesn't have the existing tag, and neither does session->scratch | 01:35 |
| @preaction_ | and the damned session object is too huge to debug. | 01:36 |
| @preaction_ | ah. failing versiontag tests | 01:37 |
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| @preaction_ | do we have to always say "our $CONFIG_FILE" when we want a var declared with our now? | 01:44 |
| @preaction_ | ah. now i see: the tag was never setWorking | 01:47 |
| @preaction_ | duh. | 01:47 |
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| +perlDreamer | preaction: why does the calendar stores view types and start dates in the scratch? | 01:59 |
| @preaction_ | probably in case the user looks at an event or adds an event so they go back to the right place | 02:00 |
| +perlDreamer | that's a good reason | 02:00 |
| @preaction_ | but perhaps it should store such in a specific way to avoid the problem susan is having? | 02:03 |
| @preaction_ | and now, for some reason, version tags are working again, though i have not changed any code. | 02:04 |
| @preaction_ | ah. spoke too soon. it worked for one page view, but it must still be pending or something. | 02:04 |
| +perlDreamer | preaction_: using the calendar ical system, you can essentially do the same thing as the shortcut, without the interaction | 02:06 |
| @preaction_ | oh jesus... if it is the caching i am going to be very annoyed | 02:22 |
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| CIA-104 | webgui: Paul Driver master * rda8ebb9 / www/extras/shop/cart.js : no forms[0], we will use a real id - http://bit.ly/akATn0 | 02:36 |
| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r113c44a / (docs/changelog/7.x.x.txt lib/WebGUI/Shop/Cart.pm): Give the cart an id for the JS to work with. - http://bit.ly/afBzmQ | 02:51 |
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| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * reb9d32f / lib/WebGUI/Shop/Cart.pm : Log the correct transaction data on a $0 checkout. - http://bit.ly/dj7wNb | 03:28 |
| +perlDreamer | dinner time for old hackers | 03:29 |
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| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * rf04cf29 / (docs/changelog/7.x.x.txt lib/WebGUI/Shop/Cart.pm): Fix display of the shop credit deduction when there's a recurring item in the cart. Fixes bug #11557 - http://bit.ly/98SJcB | 04:30 |
| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.8 * r6926217 / (docs/changelog/7.x.x.txt lib/WebGUI/Shop/Cart.pm): Fix display of the shop credit deduction when there's a recurring item in the cart. Fixes bug #11557 - http://bit.ly/d7Wybv | 04:30 |
| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r17841c8 / (lib/WebGUI/Shop/Credit.pm lib/WebGUI/i18n/English/Shop.pm): Better messaging and error handling in the Shop/Credit screen. Cannot give credit to Visitor. - http://bit.ly/cK1r0Y | 04:49 |
| +perlDreamer | later,a ll | 04:50 |
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| SDuensin | Morning. | 16:43 |
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| +perlDreamer | morning, good WebGUI folks | 17:57 |
| +bartjol | hi | 17:59 |
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| Haarg | the more i think about WebGUI::Session the more i hate it | 19:49 |
| Haarg | it's like three different objects mushed together into one | 19:50 |
| Haarg | there is the site (config, database, cache), the user session (var, stash) and the request (asset, user, request, etc) | 19:53 |
| Haarg | it should really be separated out into separate classes | 19:53 |
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| Haarg | preaction, do you see any reason to let i18n modules filter URLs given that we are allowing utf8 now? | 20:10 |
| @preaction | that's what i was telling Frank yesterday: i18n shouldn't give one rat's ass what the URL is | 20:12 |
| Haarg | ok | 20:12 |
| Haarg | i'll change that then | 20:13 |
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| +perlDreamer | preaction: did you test any of the new site styles to make sure they work with modern WebGUI? | 20:58 |
| @preaction | modern? | 20:58 |
| @preaction | they worked on the default content, otherwise no | 20:58 |
| +perlDreamer | modern like all the templating and style sheet work from TWG | 20:59 |
| @preaction | nope | 20:59 |
| @preaction | they weren't supposed to stay there for long, TWG was supposed to replace them with something else | 20:59 |
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| +perlDreamer | patspam, got the urge to talk about merge? | 21:53 |
| SDuensin | Whew. The first time I read that, I saw "marriage". | 21:55 |
| +perlDreamer | You need professional help, SDuensin | 21:56 |
| SDuensin | Yea, but that's expensive! | 21:56 |
| @preaction | so's marriage | 21:57 |
| SDuensin | Well, I already did that. | 21:58 |
| +perlDreamer | marriage is much more expensive | 22:00 |
| SDuensin | Actually costs less than my technology habit. :-) | 22:01 |
| +perlDreamer | yay! | 22:01 |
| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie WebGUI8 * rc1cc94f / t/tests/My/Test/Class.pm : Do not run the test suite on the support class. - http://bit.ly/cPgici | 22:01 |
| +perlDreamer | All Test::Class tests pass | 22:02 |
| Haarg | perlDreamer, what merge are you referring to? | 22:02 |
| +perlDreamer | patspam wanted to talk about the upcoming psgi merge | 22:02 |
| Haarg | ah | 22:02 |
| ckotil | The workflow activity NotifyAdminsWithOpenVersionTags is confusing. the name suggest an email is sent to the admins notifying about an old version tag (default 3 days old), but in the description it reads 'This sends out notifications to all users that have an uncommitted tag. It only does this if the version tags are empty...' i can tell from reading the code that it does in fact send a notice to admins. | 22:13 |
| ckotil | id like to send out notices directly to the user with the uncommitted tag | 22:13 |
| ckotil | looks like ill need to modify the existing activity and make a new one. | 22:14 |
| ckotil | a lot of users new to webgui will edit an asset, and forget to commit, even tho i have big annoying button at the top of the page that says DONT FORGET TO COMMIT | 22:14 |
| +perlDreamer | eh, just write a workflow that begins to charge their credit card | 22:16 |
| SDuensin | Ooo! I want that one! | 22:16 |
| ckotil | hehe | 22:17 |
| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie WebGUI8 * r28f4605 / t/Session/Style.t : Update test due to the removal of the headBlock. - http://bit.ly/ayqrki | 22:19 |
| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * rd7ee5f0 / t/Session/Style.t : Update test due to the removal of the headBlock. - | 22:20 |
| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.8 * r65f3904 / t/Session/Style.t : Update test due to the removal of the headBlock. | 22:20 |
| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.8 * r396f0cd / t/Session/Style.t : More headBlock => extraHeadTags cleanup - http://bit.ly/9Nr8RS | 22:21 |
| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * re71a6be / t/Session/Style.t : More headBlock => extraHeadTags cleanup - http://bit.ly/dopcAi | 22:21 |
| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie WebGUI8 * rd46dcaa / t/Session/Style.t : More headBlock => extraHeadTags cleanup - http://bit.ly/abEBob | 22:22 |
| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie WebGUI8 * rb7b91a3 / t/Session/Url.t : Update test for property manipulation. - http://bit.ly/boPgMw | 22:24 |
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| +perlDreamer | preaction, how does the new caching system work with compound keys? | 22:32 |
| @preaction | the compound key must be calculated beforehand | 22:33 |
| +perlDreamer | was that done as part of the cache switch? | 22:33 |
| @preaction | yes | 22:33 |
| +perlDreamer | a test or two may have been missed | 22:34 |
| @preaction | quite possibly | 22:34 |
| +perlDreamer | All session tests are now passing | 22:35 |
| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie WebGUI8 * r5bf7f42 / t/Session/Var.t : Update the test for the new caching scheme. - http://bit.ly/an0bOi | 22:35 |
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| +perlDreamer | lunch time | 22:58 |
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| @preaction | if we move to nginx, should we also start doing ESI? it would mean writing or updating an ESI plugin for nginx, but it would make many http accelerators very very happy | 00:40 |
| SDuensin_ | WTF is ESI? | 00:42 |
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| @preaction | Edge-Side Includes. it lets a proxy cache the entire page with <esi:*> directives, then just request the esi stuff as dynamic | 00:42 |
| @preaction | so like if your site had only a "Hello <user>", it would only fetch THAT for each page load | 00:42 |
| @preaction | or it would fetch only the navs | 00:43 |
| @preaction | basically, the dynamic part that may change with different users or different times viewing the same page, but the rest is just cached | 00:43 |
| @preaction | akamai uses it, which would mean webgui sites could run on akamai's CDN | 00:44 |
| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r2fe34a2 / t/ProfileField.t : more ProfileField tests - | 00:51 |
| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie WebGUI8 * r1aeb75b / (4 files in 3 dirs): Fix POD whitespace problems. - | 00:52 |
| CIA-104 | webgui: Paul Driver master * r40d11e8 / (5 files in 5 dirs): more sorting options for SyndicatedContent - http://bit.ly/c1Og83 | 01:05 |
| +perlDreamer | He even wrote tests! | 01:07 |
| @frodwith | how else would I know if it works? | 01:18 |
| @frodwith | :-p | 01:18 |
| CIA-104 | WebGUI: translation * r12490 /translations/German/German/ (PayDriver_PayPalStd.pm Asset_WikiMaster.pm): Updating German on translation server | 01:22 |
| CIA-104 | WebGUI: translation * r12491 /translations/German/German/PayDriver_PayPalStd.pm: Updating German on translation server | 01:22 |
| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie WebGUI8 * r1c4ea8e / t/ProfileField.t : more ProfileField tests - http://bit.ly/a9oIaP | 01:51 |
| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie WebGUI8 * r7032e86 / (lib/WebGUI/SQL.pm t/SQL.t t/User.t): Change cache strategy for User.t. Fix setRow in SQL.pm to accept overrides in row identifiers. - http://bit.ly/b5daGj | 01:51 |
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| +patspam | perlDreamer: ping | 03:18 |
| +patspam | got users reporting that wg site email footer not included in emails | 03:20 |
| +patspam | my guess it's broken email clients | 03:20 |
| +patspam | multipart email: html contents + text/plain footer | 03:20 |
| +patspam | gmail and thunderbird show it fine | 03:20 |
| +patspam | time to boot up a windows vm and try outlook | 03:21 |
| +patspam | yes indeed | 03:25 |
| +patspam | outlook doesn't show the footer, adds it as a .txt attachment instead | 03:26 |
| +patspam | example at: https://gist.github.com/c25b1c0b5d2e7cc97ccf | 03:39 |
| +patspam | anyone think this is a bug? or reasonable behaviour? | 03:39 |
| @preaction | perhaps we should also send "content-disposition: inline"? | 03:40 |
| +patspam | that sounds promising | 03:41 |
| +patspam | looks like outlook might ignore that though: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/814111 | 03:42 |
| +perlDreamer | it's definitely a bug | 03:44 |
| +perlDreamer | the user should install thunderbird immediately | 03:44 |
| +patspam | heh | 03:44 |
| +perlDreamer | and here I thought you wanted to talk about something important | 03:44 |
| +perlDreamer | like the psgi merge | 03:44 |
| +patspam | oh yeah! | 03:44 |
| +patspam | been too busy to think about that for the past 24hrs | 03:45 |
| +perlDreamer | All of Session/*.t are passing | 03:45 |
| +patspam | in 8? | 03:45 |
| +perlDreamer | yes | 03:45 |
| +patspam | ok, let's set the bar for merging psgi | 03:45 |
| +patspam | all the same tests passing | 03:45 |
| +patspam | plus..? | 03:45 |
| +perlDreamer | okay | 03:45 |
| +patspam | I started adding some psgi specific tests | 03:46 |
| +perlDreamer | that's good | 03:46 |
| +patspam | most apache request/response stuff isn't tested | 03:46 |
| +perlDreamer | can we say minimum 75% test coverage of the new psgi code? | 03:46 |
| +patspam | ok | 03:46 |
| +patspam | there isn't a whole lot of new code | 03:46 |
| +perlDreamer | well, in that case | 03:46 |
| +perlDreamer | lets say minimum 90% coverage of new code | 03:47 |
| +perlDreamer | :D | 03:47 |
| +patspam | the stuff that really needs tests is all the apache req/response stuff that needs to be ported to Plack req/response methods | 03:47 |
| +patspam | there's likely to be lots of easily fixable bugs in there | 03:47 |
| +patspam | but I haven't got enough time to do all that on my own | 03:47 |
| +perlDreamer | I think I can help with that | 03:48 |
| +patspam | awesome | 03:48 |
| +perlDreamer | unless there's another emergency like last week | 03:48 |
| +perlDreamer | and the week before | 03:48 |
| +patspam | I hear ya | 03:48 |
| +patspam | the question is, do we require all that stuff to be tested before we merge? | 03:48 |
| +perlDreamer | definitely | 03:48 |
| +perlDreamer | that way we can pick up merge problems with the tests | 03:48 |
| +patspam | there won't be merge problems, since psgi is tracking 8 | 03:49 |
| +patspam | e.g. it should be a fast-foward merge | 03:50 |
| +perlDreamer | okay | 03:50 |
| +perlDreamer | so what's the status of the psgi branch? | 03:50 |
| +patspam | heh so to rephrase the above question, should wg8 devs be shielded from req/response bugs? | 03:51 |
| +perlDreamer | there are only 4 wg8 devs | 03:51 |
| +patspam | exactly | 03:51 |
| +patspam | status.. untouched for past 10 days | 03:51 |
| +patspam | by me at least | 03:51 |
| @preaction | once it's merged, we're all responsible | 03:51 |
| +patspam | exactly =p | 03:52 |
| +perlDreamer | I think it would still be best to have the tests in place before we merge | 03:52 |
| +perlDreamer | maybe not for full coverage | 03:52 |
| +patspam | yeah I think you're probably right | 03:52 |
| +perlDreamer | but to cover base functionality | 03:52 |
| +patspam | but if you can help me with the new tests that'd be ace | 03:52 |
| +patspam | I don't want momentum to drop off with it so close to being ready | 03:52 |
| +perlDreamer | won't we also need to change WebGUI::PseudoRequest into something else? | 03:52 |
| +patspam | it will disappear | 03:53 |
| +patspam | Plack::Test | 03:53 |
| +perlDreamer | that's still a lot of test rework | 03:53 |
| +patspam | maybe we can refactor WebGUI::PseudoRequest as a first step | 03:54 |
| +perlDreamer | Plack::Test is still request/response based | 03:54 |
| +perlDreamer | none of the PseudoRequest code works like that | 03:54 |
| +perlDreamer | maybe it's better that it works that way | 03:55 |
| +perlDreamer | but none of the code that is tested will return response objects | 03:55 |
| +perlDreamer | there ought to be some good examples in Session/Url.t | 03:57 |
| +patspam | I think it will fall out nicely | 03:57 |
| +patspam | Url.t creates a PseudoRequest and stores it in $session->{_request} | 03:58 |
| +perlDreamer | which we don't really need anymore | 03:58 |
| +patspam | instead, we can create a real WebGUI::Session::Request | 03:58 |
| +perlDreamer | the manual work isn't needed anymore because it's done for us by WebGUI::Test | 03:59 |
| +perlDreamer | okay, so we create a real WebGUI::Session::Request | 03:59 |
| +perlDreamer | but how does it get a request object that we can manipulate? | 03:59 |
| +patspam | WebGUI::Session::Request isa Plack::Request | 03:59 |
| +patspam | that's the response object | 03:59 |
| +patspam | er, request | 04:00 |
| +patspam | instead of being some funky xs apache thing it's a pure perl object | 04:00 |
| +patspam | created from a simple $env hash | 04:00 |
| +perlDreamer | that will be nice | 04:00 |
| +perlDreamer | and the resultant object is rw? | 04:00 |
| +patspam | sure | 04:00 |
| +patspam | but most likely you wouldn't modify the request object | 04:01 |
| +patspam | because so easy to create a new one on demand | 04:01 |
| +patspam | Plack::Request makes its accessors read-only | 04:01 |
| +perlDreamer | so we should have some sugar in WebGUI::Test for making new request objects in the session | 04:02 |
| +patspam | yeah something like that | 04:02 |
| +perlDreamer | WebGUI::Test->reRequest($session, %newHash); | 04:02 |
| +patspam | similar to the way Plack::Test lets you do it with HTTP::Request/Response objects | 04:02 |
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| +patspam | Plack::Test is pretty cool in that by setting environment variables you can get it to run the requests through an actual plack server of your choice | 04:04 |
| +perlDreamer | I need to go run some errands, but I'll keep thinking about this | 04:06 |
| +patspam | cool, ttyl | 04:06 |
| +Radix_ | So.. apt-get in ubuntu server.. or wre - hard choice | 04:51 |
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| +Radix_ | apt-get webgui on lucid: | 05:07 |
| +Radix_ | webgui: Depends: libpoe-component-client-http-perl (>= 0.88) but it is not installable | 05:07 |
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| +Radix_ | debian sid works fine though | 05:30 |
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| @preaction | Radix_: i think you need to send a message to the masters of the universe (motu@ubuntu.org iirc) | 05:33 |
| +Radix_ | looks like the libpoe component has either been removed or no longer available or something.. that's the only dependency missing | 05:34 |
| +Radix_ | okey.. need some advice.. what's the best way to migrate a 7.0.8 version of webgui to 7.8.18 | 05:37 |
| +Radix_ | I have an existing site with 6738 assets, 287 templates, 15551 users, and 1993 groups | 05:38 |
| @preaction | the normal way: stop at the highest 7.0, 7.1, 7.2, 7.3, 7.4, 7.5, 7.6, 7.7, and then 7.8 versions | 05:38 |
| @preaction | and be prepared for template changes | 05:38 |
| +perlDreamer | with all the stop versions in the middle | 05:39 |
| +perlDreamer | I started a wiki page to keep track of stop version, but it only goes back to 7.5 | 05:39 |
| +Radix_ | heh | 05:39 |
| +perlDreamer | http://www.webgui.org/wiki/stop-versions | 05:40 |
| +Radix_ | stop versions are? | 05:40 |
| @preaction | versions you have to stop at | 05:40 |
| +Radix_ | oh.. page explains | 05:40 |
| +perlDreamer | :) | 05:40 |
| +perlDreamer | Radix_: if you learn about any other ones, could you keep good notes and maybe update the wiki page? | 05:40 |
| +Radix_ | haha.. yeah sure | 05:40 |
| +Radix_ | I'm going omg.. do I really want to do this atm | 05:41 |
| +Radix_ | will latest WRE run all of the versions from 7.1-7.8? | 05:42 |
| +perlDreamer | no | 05:42 |
| +perlDreamer | there are JSON problems in 7.4.3 | 05:42 |
| +Radix_ | so I'll need to step up versions of wre too then | 05:43 |
| +perlDreamer | not necessarily, just perl modules | 05:44 |
| +Radix_ | and how would I know what to use and what not? | 05:44 |
| +Radix_ | why is the upgrade path for webgui so insanely complicated still? | 05:44 |
| @preaction | ... because we have one | 05:45 |
| +perlDreamer | well, to be fair, since 7.5 there is only one "extra" stop version | 05:45 |
| +perlDreamer | and that's 7.7.22 | 05:45 |
| @preaction | if you were on any other system, you'd be dumping and remerging sites by now | 05:45 |
| +perlDreamer | otherwise, there's just one stop point per minor version | 05:45 |
| +perlDreamer | oy, something in 8 is badly broken | 05:50 |
| +perlDreamer | it's wiping out groupNames | 05:50 |
| @preaction | fun | 05:53 |
| @preaction | maybe that's why version tag names are missing too | 05:54 |
| +perlDreamer | I didn't know that those parts of WebGUI were touched in 8 | 05:54 |
| +perlDreamer | but I'm finding lots of little things | 05:54 |
| +perlDreamer | like the bug in setRow | 05:54 |
| +perlDreamer | If we had time, I'd love to shut down WebGUI 8 for 2 days, and fix every broken bug and test | 05:54 |
| +perlDreamer | then we could start running test regressions | 05:55 |
| @preaction | well, i'm stalled until i can fix the problems with version tags and committing | 05:55 |
| +perlDreamer | they seem to work in WebGUI8 | 05:58 |
| +perlDreamer | can you revert to find out what's changed in your branch? | 05:58 |
| @preaction | no, wayyyyy too far ahead. lot of work. i think i know what happened (i changed getEditForm and processPropertiesFromFormPost) | 06:01 |
| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie WebGUI8 * re830e92 / t/User.t : Update test for new cache system. - http://bit.ly/avH1oy | 06:08 |
| +perlDreamer | this could supersede that kind of work | 06:17 |
| +perlDreamer | Users and Groups are both broken | 06:18 |
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| +perlDreamer | preaction: could you please run the User.t test and tell me if it fails for you? | 06:37 |
| +perlDreamer | preaction, I think I know why you're having problems | 06:43 |
| +perlDreamer | if I'm right, it should be fixed in about 15 minutes | 06:43 |
| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie WebGUI8 * rad88c37 / lib/WebGUI/SQL.pm : Revert back to the old setRow that handles sparse updates, like the one used by Group. - http://bit.ly/cRMMP5 | 06:49 |
| +perlDreamer | I'm going to pack it in for tonight | 06:56 |
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| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie WebGUI8 * rae43a10 / t/User.t : Update this test for the new caching system. - http://bit.ly/9BPyMi | 06:59 |
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| ckotil | Good Morning | 16:42 |
| ckotil | im looking at my show running workflows page, and ive got a bunch of suspended workflows named (no title). Id like to just delete them, but I cant find them in the database anywhere. any idea where I should look? | 16:43 |
| SDuensin | FrIdAy! | 16:46 |
| +MrHairgrease | ckotil | 16:51 |
| +MrHairgrease | they should be in the WorkflowActivityINstance table | 16:51 |
| +MrHairgrease | or somthing like that | 16:52 |
| ckotil | ive scoured those tables. | 16:54 |
| ckotil | even dumped the db and grepped for the instanceId i see in the show running workflows page. | 16:54 |
| +MrHairgrease | weird | 16:54 |
| +MrHairgrease | maybe spectre caches some stuff and has gotten out of sync somehow? | 16:54 |
| ckotil | yeah, so i dont understand how these siuspended workflows are even sticking around. unless spectre has a hold on them | 16:55 |
| +MrHairgrease | try crtl-f5 on the show running workflows page | 16:55 |
| +MrHairgrease | if that doen't help see if restarting spectre does | 16:55 |
| ckotil | k | 16:55 |
| ckotil | the restart did it | 16:57 |
| +MrHairgrease | ok | 16:58 |
| +MrHairgrease | dunnno what caused this though | 16:58 |
| +MrHairgrease | did you recently upgrade? | 16:58 |
| ckotil | i added a new activity im working on to the hourly workflow so i can run it manually via the scheduler. well i had a bug in the activity and it caused the workflow to error | 16:58 |
| +MrHairgrease | ah | 16:58 |
| ckotil | when i ran another instance of the hourly workflow it got out of sync | 16:58 |
| +MrHairgrease | that's prolly what caused the problem | 16:59 |
| ckotil | then i have to manually run each activity. when its done it shows up as no title | 16:59 |
| ckotil | when the workflow has finished all the activities that is | 16:59 |
| ckotil | there's probably a better way to develop and debug a workflow activity, but i dunno what it is :) | 16:59 |
| +MrHairgrease | yeah, let other people do ot for you =) | 17:00 |
| ckotil | i can do small things. | 17:00 |
| ckotil | the activity im working on will email users about uncommitted version tags | 17:01 |
| ckotil | hopefully i can contribute it | 17:01 |
| +MrHairgrease | you do take into account that activities can only run for about a minute at a time right? | 17:02 |
| ckotil | i wasnt aware of that. | 17:03 |
| +MrHairgrease | just grep for getTTL in WebGUI/Workflow?activity | 17:04 |
| +MrHairgrease | for examples | 17:04 |
| ckotil | but this activity just queries for all uncommitted tags, then loops through them to get the owner, tagId, and email. then sends an email with a link. shouldnt take that long. even if there are 20 uncommitted tags | 17:04 |
| +MrHairgrease | true | 17:04 |
| +MrHairgrease | espescially if you just queue the emails instead of sending them | 17:05 |
| +MrHairgrease | are you returning COMPLETE? | 17:05 |
| ckotil | ah, queuing, good idea. | 17:05 |
| ckotil | ok, i see the ttl, i can add that to my activity | 17:05 |
| +MrHairgrease | sure | 17:05 |
| ckotil | yes. | 17:05 |
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| carogray | forms question:Is it possible for a questions with a required answer of either yes or no, not to have a default answer? | 18:05 |
| carogray | I want to ask people if it is safe to get back to them? I want to make sure that they answer question - do not submit the form without answering. At the same time I do not want to have a pre-filled answer already | 18:06 |
| carogray | We could miss out on helping some people if the answer is no, and if the default answer is yes, we could be endangering others. | 18:07 |
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| +perlDreamer | MrHairgrease! | 18:14 |
| +perlDreamer | Greasings, euro-hacker | 18:14 |
| +MrHairgrease | May the Grease be with you! | 18:14 |
| +perlDreamer | is that offer for Shop/Cart help still good? | 18:15 |
| +perlDreamer | I don't have an easy way to verify the changes I made to the Ogone plugin, in 7.9.4 | 18:15 |
| +perlDreamer | I don't suppose you could do some kind of test checkout with it, to make sure it still all works correctly? | 18:16 |
| +MrHairgrease | Today I won't have time for that anymore. But I can check next wednesday | 18:17 |
| +MrHairgrease | is that ok? | 18:18 |
| +MrHairgrease | I don't have a test account handy, so I'll have to request one | 18:18 |
| +perlDreamer | that's fine. You're way more familiar with it than I am. | 18:18 |
| +MrHairgrease | Where did you get that idea =) | 18:19 |
| +perlDreamer | It's an acknowledgement of your superior sub-micron and programming skillz | 18:19 |
| +perlDreamer | Have you read the release notes and gotchas for 7.9.4? | 18:20 |
| +perlDreamer | The cart is now a 2 screen process | 18:20 |
| +perlDreamer | in screen 1, you enter in all billing and (optionally) shipping info | 18:20 |
| +perlDreamer | you also select the shipping method, and the billing gateway. | 18:21 |
| +perlDreamer | then you hit the checkout button | 18:21 |
| +perlDreamer | in screen 2, you get a summary of all charges, and a checkout button | 18:21 |
| +MrHairgrease | ok | 18:21 |
| +MrHairgrease | I've looked into it a bit | 18:21 |
| +MrHairgrease | but I'll go through it more thouroughly next wednesday | 18:22 |
| +MrHairgrease | anyway | 18:23 |
| +MrHairgrease | gotta go | 18:23 |
| +MrHairgrease | bye | 18:23 |
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| @preaction | we need to clean up the WebGUI github | 22:40 |
| @preaction | DataTable needs gone. crypt needs moved to a personal fork. fb needs gone. flux needs moved to personal fork. gh-pages i don't even know what it is. improved-asset-state needs moved to a personal fork or merged into mainline. plebgui needs moved to personal fork. psgi personal fork. template_usage dunno what is. thingy_defaultView_maxEntries seriously? usereditgroup what? | 22:45 |
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| +perlDreamer | template_usage is useful | 23:25 |
| +perlDreamer | it lets you diff changes in templates across different WebGUI versions | 23:25 |
| @preaction | so it should be merged then? | 23:26 |
| @preaction | really, if we can get wgdev to be WebGUI::Command, then we can enhance the wgpkg format to accept the wgdev file format | 23:26 |
| +perlDreamer | no, not merged | 23:28 |
| +perlDreamer | just keep track of it | 23:28 |
| +perlDreamer | in fact, it's a little out of date | 23:28 |
| +perlDreamer | Haarg, I need a brief overview of the WebGUI::Paths change | 23:39 |
| +perlDreamer | Session->open doesn't need a root dir anymore | 23:39 |
| +perlDreamer | All methods in WebGUI::Paths are class methods | 23:39 |
| +perlDreamer | anything else? | 23:39 |
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| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie WebGUI8 * rd0b17ac / lib/WebGUI/Asset/EMSSubmission.pm : Update EMSSubmission to Moose. - http://bit.ly/chok8c | 23:43 |
| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie WebGUI8 * r5992a1d / sbin/changeIobStatus.pl : Update changeIobStatus for WebGUI::Paths - http://bit.ly/djhH8D | 23:43 |
| +perlDreamer | first complete test suite run on WebGUI 8 is running | 23:48 |
| +perlDreamer | it has at least half a chance of finishing... | 23:48 |
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| +perlDreamer | for anyone who's curious: http://gist.github.com/394002 | 00:14 |
| +perlDreamer | there's still a lot of work to be done | 00:14 |
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| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie WebGUI8 * r22f9a20 / t/i18n/help.t : Update this test for new code in Operation/Help - http://bit.ly/aCpN4O | 01:03 |
| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie WebGUI8 * rea17973 / (t/Cache.t t/Cache/Database.t t/Cache/FileCache.t): There aren't any cache modules any longer. - http://bit.ly/bAPMpn | 01:03 |
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| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie WebGUI8 * ra29c6ae / t/mandatory_template_vars.t : Update mandatory_template_vars test for new Asset code. - | 01:09 |
| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie WebGUI8 * r45e1c01 / t/Help/compiled.t : Update Help/compiled for new operational code. - http://bit.ly/cgoEUp | 01:12 |
| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie WebGUI8 * rc8075d9 / lib/WebGUI/Form/Email.pm : Add a missing module use line. - http://bit.ly/aD67Gc | 01:21 |
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| SDuensin | Evening! | 03:11 |
| @preaction | perlbot .ar | 03:15 |
| perlbot | preaction: .ar is Argentina | 03:15 |
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| +perlDreamer | Whatssup, SDuensin? | 03:40 |
| SDuensin | Reading about cool network stuff and dealing with an overtired 1 year old. | 03:41 |
| SDuensin | http://www.ntop.org/n2n/ | 03:41 |
| +perlDreamer | http://www.skorks.com/2010/05/what-every-developer-should-know-about-urls/? | 03:45 |
| SDuensin | Nice. Not as cool as my URL though. :-) | 03:48 |
| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie WebGUI8 * r9162bd6 / t/lib/WebGUI/Test.pm : Return the correct path for the WebGUI lib directory in WebGUI::Test. Should probably just use WebGUI::Path instead. - http://bit.ly/bvmFMs | 03:53 |
| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie WebGUI8 * r6154044 / lib/WebGUI/Definition/Meta/Class.pm : when using goto on objects, must restore $self into @_... - http://bit.ly/aod6lp | 03:56 |
| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie WebGUI8 * r855b59f / lib/WebGUI/Definition/Meta/Asset.pm : Similar changes as to Definition::Meta::Class in --::Asset - http://bit.ly/aVQGbw | 03:58 |
| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie WebGUI8 * r2fad20d / lib/WebGUI/FilePump/Bundle.pm : Exception handling when trying to get assets for their content. - http://bit.ly/cgGCMf | 04:02 |
| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie WebGUI8 * r361299e / t/Storage.t : Use the right location for the WebGUI.pm fake file in Storage testing. - http://bit.ly/cGAvdZ | 04:14 |
| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie WebGUI8 * r3d34cf3 / t/VersionTag.t : Fix typos in VersionTag.t - http://bit.ly/9KV9fi | 04:18 |
| +perlDreamer | preaction: all VersionTag.t tests are passing | 04:18 |
| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie WebGUI8 * r1450d13 / (2 files in 2 dirs): Fix POD problems - | 04:28 |
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| +perlDreamer | Haarg: seeing Moosey weirdness: http://gist.github.com/395400 | 00:00 |
| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie WebGUI8 * r0bef2b2 / (4 files in 3 dirs): Change the core to use newById instead of new. - http://bit.ly/a3DlC8 | 00:31 |
| +perlDreamer | nm, that error is caused by having a method called new | 00:33 |
| +perlDreamer | like the one installed WebGUI::Test when we mock asset instanciators | 00:37 |
| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie WebGUI8 * r8272c2b / t/lib/WebGUI/Test.pm : Do not intstall a wrapper around new in Asset.pm - http://bit.ly/9Z84fH | 00:51 |
| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie WebGUI8 * rc471cd1 / t/Shop/AddressBook.t : Fix a test I broke. - http://bit.ly/aiUInJ | 00:59 |
| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie WebGUI8 * r10d96d3 / t/Help/related.t : Update help for new operational code. - http://bit.ly/cVlUFJ | 01:06 |
| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie WebGUI8 * r2c80c50 / lib/WebGUI/Macro/FileUrl.pm : Test assets for valid methods before calling them. - http://bit.ly/bm0MZV | 01:06 |
| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie WebGUI8 * rab64760 / lib/WebGUI/Group.pm : Add missing module use line to Group.pm - http://bit.ly/a1QURL | 01:08 |
| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie WebGUI8 * r4ecc8dc / lib/WebGUI/AssetLineage.pm : AssetLineage should throw exceptions. - http://bit.ly/dkzZyq | 01:28 |
| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie WebGUI8 * ra2feddc / lib/WebGUI/Macro/PickLanguage.pm : Exception handling. - http://bit.ly/aUXtLu | 01:35 |
| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie WebGUI8 * r97d5caa / lib/WebGUI/Macro/Thumbnail.pm : Exception handling for Thumbnail macro. - http://bit.ly/attTrb | 01:37 |
| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie WebGUI8 * r8bbf758 / t/Shop/ShipDriver/FlatRate.t : Update FlatRate test. - http://bit.ly/9gsazd | 02:15 |
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| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie WebGUI8 * r69a1b4e / t/Workflow/Activity/NotifyAboutLowStock.t : Update test for new asset instanciators. - http://bit.ly/dbPbzP | 03:25 |
| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie WebGUI8 * rd57ee62 / t/Workflow/Activity/RemoveOldCarts.t : Fixed this test. - http://bit.ly/9tjuXZ | 03:32 |
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| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie WebGUI8 * r057260f / lib/WebGUI/Asset/Wobject/Gallery.pm : fix a ->get conversion typo. - http://bit.ly/9OZPLg | 04:04 |
| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie WebGUI8 * r5be85b9 / t/Asset/Wobject/Survey.t : Cache update for a test - http://bit.ly/d2DQA6 | 04:10 |
| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie WebGUI8 * r96108ff / t/Group.t : Remove an old cache line. - http://bit.ly/bjNAxU | 04:14 |
| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie WebGUI8 * r95fe1e6 / (2 files in 2 dirs): Module use, and cache updates. - http://bit.ly/d0UmEx | 04:14 |
| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie WebGUI8 * r923e03f / (lib/WebGUI/Asset.pm t/Asset/Asset.t): Add a method for getViewCacheKey. Update number of tests. - http://bit.ly/cw8e7N | 05:03 |
| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie WebGUI8 * r4c3b615 / t/Asset/AssetLineage.t : Update this test for exception handling. - http://bit.ly/bJja5q | 05:08 |
| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie WebGUI8 * r8be3592 / lib/WebGUI/AssetPackage.pm : Drop session from get data generated by exportAssetData - http://bit.ly/cyNy3M | 05:17 |
| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie WebGUI8 * ra203ab4 / t/Asset/AssetPackage.t : Use a static time to remove 2 second sleep. Update test for new asset instanciators. - http://bit.ly/ciILPu | 05:17 |
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| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie WebGUI8 * recf1c52 / lib/WebGUI/Asset/Wobject/EventManagementSystem.pm : Updates for Moose. - http://bit.ly/clKW83 | 07:04 |
| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie WebGUI8 * r50b2b11 / (2 files in 2 dirs): Updated to Moose, and test updates. - http://bit.ly/b71vsi | 07:04 |
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| +perlDreamer | Haarg: late night ping | 07:38 |
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| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie WebGUI8 * r7ba3051 / (lib/WebGUI/Asset/Snippet.pm t/Asset/Snippet.t): Set a trigger for the snippet. Update tests for snippet packing. - http://bit.ly/boO5k3 | 07:45 |
| +perlDreamer | Haarg, I've decided for all future bugs, I'm going to come into IRC | 07:45 |
| +perlDreamer | and try and ask you a question | 07:45 |
| +perlDreamer | you just ignore me for about an hour | 07:45 |
| +perlDreamer | and I'll have it figured out by then | 07:45 |
| +perlDreamer | if not, then I'll ask again, and then you can answer it | 07:45 |
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| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie WebGUI8 * rc2cbec2 / t/VersionTag.t : Attempt to make this test more robust. - http://bit.ly/bQlhPv | 08:32 |
| +perlDreamer | There are only about 74 failing tests in WebGUI8 | 08:34 |
| +perlDreamer | some of them are collateral damage | 08:34 |
| +perlDreamer | where the tests are sensitive and need a sterile environment to run as planned | 08:35 |
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| CIA-104 | WebGUI: translation * r12492 /translations/Dutch/Dutch/ (4 files): Updating Dutch on translation server | 14:21 |
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| CIA-104 | WebGUI: translation * r12493 /translations/Dutch/Dutch/Asset_WikiMaster.pm: Updating Dutch on translation server | 15:56 |
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| SDuensin | Somebody wake me when it's over. | 16:34 |
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| +bartjol | SDuensin: what must be over? | 16:42 |
| SDuensin | Work! | 16:42 |
| +bartjol | oh, I'll be sleeping by then I guess | 16:42 |
| SDuensin | :-P | 16:42 |
| +bartjol | just 1.7 hours left for today | 16:43 |
| SDuensin | I just got here. | 16:43 |
| SDuensin | So, like 7.1 for me. :-) | 16:43 |
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| CIA-104 | WebGUI: translation * r12494 /translations/German/German/ (PayDriver_Cash.pm PayDriver.pm): Updating German on translation server | 17:41 |
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| +perlDreamer | good morning, WebGUI folks | 18:12 |
| Haarg | morning perlDreamer | 18:12 |
| @preaction | morning! | 18:12 |
| @frodwith | mornin' | 18:12 |
| +perlDreamer | we're down to only 74 failing test files in WebGUI 8 | 18:12 |
| +bartjol | afternoon | 18:14 |
| +bartjol | good | 18:15 |
| +bartjol | how much is that in percentage? | 18:15 |
| +bartjol | just interested | 18:15 |
| CIA-104 | WebGUI: translation * r12495 /translations/German/German/ (PayDriver_ExpressCheckout.pm PayDriver_Ogone.pm): Updating German on translation server | 18:15 |
| +perlDreamer | there are 324 files, so about 20% | 18:16 |
| +perlDreamer | a lot of those are simple cases of updating tests, or WebGUI packages | 18:17 |
| +perlDreamer | some of them are serious bugs caused by WebGUI 8 | 18:17 |
| +bartjol | all in all, it sounds quite reasonable | 18:17 |
| +bartjol | good job fellows! | 18:17 |
| +bartjol | back to my failing filepump thingy, let's read the bug report | 18:18 |
| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r19e497f / (2 files in 2 dirs): Fix some copy/paste errors in the Cash i18n. Fixes bug #11561 - http://bit.ly/bCx6UO | 18:20 |
| +perlDreamer | failing filepump? | 18:20 |
| +bartjol | http://www.webgui.org/etcetera/error-could-not-load-webguicontentfilepump | 18:23 |
| +bartjol | it was a forum post | 18:23 |
| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.8 * ra7a522c / (2 files in 2 dirs): Fix copy paste errors in the Cash i18n. Fixes bug #11561. - http://bit.ly/aWhbMo | 18:24 |
| +bartjol | not sure whether it appeared earlier (did an upgrade from 7.7.22 to 7.9.4) | 18:25 |
| +bartjol | but I see I do miss perl modules | 18:27 |
| +bartjol | adding, then, I'll let you know the result | 18:28 |
| +perlDreamer | I'm fixing core bugs all day | 18:32 |
| +perlDreamer | so if you find something, let me know | 18:32 |
| +perlDreamer | better yet, post a patch ;) | 18:32 |
| +bartjol | well, if it is just due to not reading gotcha's, I'll just have to tell him that | 18:33 |
| +bartjol | it might be that the gotcha's miss some modules, because I saw them in testenvironment, but not encountered them in the gotcha | 18:34 |
| +perlDreamer | that could definitely be a problem | 18:35 |
| +perlDreamer | we've had too much of that recenty | 18:35 |
| +perlDreamer | recently | 18:35 |
| +bartjol | mmm, CHI | 18:35 |
| +bartjol | seems to be a problem, lot of dpendancies too | 18:36 |
| +perlDreamer | CHI is a massive problem | 18:36 |
| +perlDreamer | HUGE | 18:36 |
| +perlDreamer | it requires Moose | 18:36 |
| +bartjol | ah | 18:36 |
| @preaction | so does Config::JSON | 18:36 |
| +perlDreamer | Config::JSON's Moose version is only a requirement for WebGUI 8 | 18:36 |
| +perlDreamer | not 7 | 18:36 |
| +bartjol | I do have moose | 18:37 |
| +perlDreamer | but if you do a new install, you get it anyway | 18:37 |
| @preaction | if you install the latest Config::JSON, you install moose | 18:37 |
| +bartjol | 0.93 | 18:37 |
| +bartjol | well, I installed 3 of the 4 missing modules, I'll have a look whether that specific error is gone now | 18:38 |
| +bartjol | mmm, after a restart I don't get it anymore | 18:39 |
| @preaction | i think the real problem is preloading modules that never get used, and thus preloading all their dependencies | 18:40 |
| +bartjol | I don't see it in my other install, the difference was Javascript::Packer an DateTime::Format::HTTP | 18:43 |
| +bartjol | I thought those were included in koen's beta wre, apparently not | 18:46 |
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| +bartjol | I have reported a bug about the missing in the gotcha | 18:54 |
| +perlDreamer | I shall fix it! | 18:56 |
| +perlDreamer | uh, after I try to eat something | 18:56 |
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| +bartjol | hey kathy | 18:57 |
| dreamersgirl | Hi! | 18:57 |
| dreamersgirl | How are ya? | 18:58 |
| +bartjol | well, a bit hungry actually | 18:59 |
| +bartjol | but I had some laugs when Koen fell in the water last friday | 18:59 |
| +bartjol | too bad it was a bit coldish to do it with all his clothes on | 18:59 |
| dreamersgirl | how'd that happen? | 19:00 |
| dreamersgirl | and where? | 19:00 |
| +bartjol | he slipped on a boat during a sailing race | 19:00 |
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| +bartjol | in Friesland | 19:00 |
| dreamersgirl | Oh, bummer. | 19:00 |
| Haarg | morning patspam | 19:00 |
| dreamersgirl | Did you get any pictures, though? | 19:00 |
| +bartjol | it was around here: http://maps.google.nl/maps?hl=nl&ie=UTF8&ll=52.924946,5.789108&spn=0.086205,0.239468&z=13 | 19:01 |
| +bartjol | no pics | 19:03 |
| +patspam | hola! | 19:04 |
| +patspam | haarg: moved house again on the weekend | 19:05 |
| +patspam | spent the last 2 days cleaning | 19:05 |
| dreamersgirl | cleaning = not fun | 19:05 |
| +patspam | but on the upside- I now have decent coffee shops within walking distance | 19:05 |
| dreamersgirl | with free wifi? | 19:05 |
| +patspam | dreamersgirl - yeah my back is sore now! | 19:05 |
| +patspam | I think so.. although I prefer to escape in the middle of the day with a book and stay offline | 19:06 |
| +patspam | dreamersgirl = kathy?> | 19:06 |
| dreamersgirl | i've become rather fond of coffeeshops with wifi | 19:06 |
| dreamersgirl | :) yes | 19:07 |
| +bartjol | yes | 19:07 |
| +patspam | hi! | 19:07 |
| dreamersgirl | Hi! | 19:07 |
| +patspam | coming to madison this year? | 19:07 |
| dreamersgirl | There's a great one near our house called Insomnia. | 19:07 |
| +patspam | very appropriate ;) | 19:07 |
| dreamersgirl | Have to see. That's finals week for me, but I don't think I have any finals! | 19:07 |
| +patspam | ah | 19:07 |
| dreamersgirl | It also depends on whether or not we have someone to watch kids. | 19:07 |
| +patspam | Helen is planning on coming on the last day and staying for the weekend | 19:08 |
| dreamersgirl | You still thinking of coming to OSCON? | 19:08 |
| +bartjol | eeh how "required" is CHI? | 19:08 |
| +perlDreamer | bartjol, optional | 19:08 |
| @preaction | bartjol: it's not | 19:08 |
| +bartjol | ah | 19:08 |
| +patspam | didn't get an email from them about my Healthcare Tech talk but it's showing as "not accepted" so I think not :( | 19:09 |
| +bartjol | good | 19:09 |
| @preaction | hence my desire to see unused WebGUI modules NOT preloaded | 19:09 |
| +perlDreamer | bummer, patspam | 19:09 |
| dreamersgirl | :( | 19:09 |
| +bartjol | theni'll let it pass for now | 19:09 |
| +perlDreamer | preaction, but how do you know if they're not used? | 19:09 |
| +patspam | yeah, really sucks! | 19:09 |
| +perlDreamer | you'd have to scan every config file | 19:09 |
| @preaction | the config file | 19:09 |
| @preaction | and we DO that during preload.perl | 19:09 |
| @preaction | we preload them | 19:10 |
| dreamersgirl | Patspam: if I make it to the WUC, you'll have to give me a dumbed-down, nutshell version of your Healthcare Tech Talk. Sounds interesting. | 19:10 |
| dreamersgirl | Much more interesting than the Healthcare talk I'm currently listening to. :) | 19:11 |
| +bartjol | aah. listening and IM-ing again? bad girl ;) | 19:11 |
| +patspam | I thought I'd hit on the secret success strategy of NOT mentioning Perl or WebGUI in my proposal | 19:11 |
| dreamersgirl | she's a great speaker, just an unfortunate topic | 19:12 |
| dreamersgirl | "Oregon Nurse Practice Act: Division 47 Rules for Registered Nurse Delegation" | 19:12 |
| +perlDreamer | pay attention, dreamersgirl | 19:16 |
| +perlDreamer | there will be a test | 19:16 |
| dreamersgirl | There was. I passed. :0 | 19:16 |
| +bartjol | mmm, testEnvironment borks over the missing CHI, quite irritating | 19:16 |
| dreamersgirl | Part of the test last Friday talked about delegation. Joanne at the Virginia Garcia Clinic taught me all I know | 19:16 |
| dreamersgirl | bartjol: are you coming to the WUC this year? | 19:17 |
| +perlDreamer | it would appear that the only running I'm doing today is into the bathroom... | 19:17 |
| dreamersgirl | Oh, no! | 19:18 |
| +perlDreamer | good thing there are no children here | 19:18 |
| +perlDreamer | pushups would be handed out gratuitously | 19:18 |
| +bartjol | dreamersgirl: it is my intention | 19:18 |
| +perlDreamer | dirty little germ spreading offspring! | 19:18 |
| dreamersgirl | :) | 19:18 |
| +bartjol | but my environment has to be cooperating | 19:19 |
| +bartjol | now, it is dinner time | 19:19 |
| @preaction | is there a way we can get rid of WebGUI::Pluggable? it's annoying me today (and most days) | 19:20 |
| dreamersgirl | I say get rid of it. :) Annoying preaction is strictly not allowed. | 19:20 |
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| +bartjol | yeah, well I don't mind if doug's annoyed, I like it most when he is annoyed by Koen (less change I am :)) | 19:21 |
| +bartjol | ? | 19:21 |
| +bartjol | who is scrottie, did I miss something? | 19:22 |
| @preaction | bartjol: new hire. but he can introduce himself if he's so inclined | 19:22 |
| +bartjol | new pb employee? | 19:22 |
| @scrottie | hi bartjol | 19:23 |
| +bartjol | yeah, but my hunger isn't fading | 19:23 |
| +bartjol | hi | 19:23 |
| +perlDreamer | scrottie, bartjol is part of the Dutch team. He hacks, helps people and does the Dutch translation | 19:23 |
| Haarg | hello scrottie | 19:23 |
| @scrottie | hi Haarg | 19:23 |
| @preaction | awesome. WebGUI::pluggable doesn't like modules with more than one package (or a test script that includes its own test package) | 19:24 |
| +bartjol | cool stuff :) | 19:24 |
| +perlDreamer | modules shouldn't have more than one package. It's not WGBP | 19:24 |
| Haarg | there are lots of places that will run into problems like that preaction | 19:25 |
| @preaction | it's a test script that includes its own package. | 19:25 |
| +bartjol | well, have fun | 19:25 |
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| @scrottie | bartjol, I haven't technically started yet. I wanted to wrap up some personal projects. But I thought I'd come soak up some flavor here. my official start date is May 17. | 19:25 |
| +perlDreamer | packages should be put into t/lib/WebGUI... | 19:25 |
| Haarg | easiest solution is probably $INC{'WebGUI/Blah.pm'} = 1 | 19:25 |
| @preaction | bah. it's 4 damned lines! | 19:25 |
| @preaction | ooooooooh good idear | 19:25 |
| @scrottie | eek. | 19:25 |
| @preaction | no? | 19:26 |
| +perlDreamer | Test::Mock ? | 19:26 |
| @scrottie | no, not that... bartjol leaving abruptly = eek. | 19:26 |
| Haarg | Test::MockObject->fake_module would possibly do it | 19:26 |
| Haarg | but it often refuses to | 19:26 |
| @preaction | refuses. i like that... | 19:27 |
| Haarg | well, it won't work for packages that are already loaded | 19:28 |
| Haarg | but it also won't work for a package with a sub-package that is already loaded | 19:28 |
| Haarg | not certain if that is a bug or not | 19:28 |
| @preaction | setting the $INC{} works, and i'll leave a comment for posterity | 19:28 |
| @preaction | 97.7% coverage! yay! | 19:30 |
| @preaction | now if only we got rid of old definition in form controls in favor of new definition. that'll probably have to be one of the cleanup tasks | 19:31 |
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| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.8 * ra3266eb / (docs/changelog/7.x.x.txt lib/Spectre/Workflow.pm): If a sitename is passed, filter based on sitename for spectre status. Fixes bug #11541. - http://bit.ly/bnOSd0 | 19:56 |
| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * re6ab688 / (docs/changelog/7.x.x.txt lib/Spectre/Workflow.pm): If a sitename is passed, filter based on sitename for spectre status. Fixes bug #11541. - http://bit.ly/9QeSgS | 19:57 |
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| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.8 * rfc59716 / (docs/changelog/7.x.x.txt lib/WebGUI/VersionTag.pm): When a version tag is deleted, delete it's workflow instance, if it exists. Fixes bug #11544. - http://bit.ly/ar5qAN | 20:40 |
| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * ra03e13e / (docs/changelog/7.x.x.txt lib/WebGUI/VersionTag.pm): When a version tag is deleted, delete it's workflow instance, if it exists. Fixes bug #11544. - http://bit.ly/9jaLKB | 20:43 |
| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r007391d / (3 files in 3 dirs): Label the form field for entering in sub-keywords. - http://bit.ly/8YyIqD | 20:55 |
| CIA-104 | webgui: Graham Knop master * r06d61ec / (2 files in 2 dirs): fixed: UserList asset has SQL injection bug - http://bit.ly/bNN1JG | 21:07 |
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| CIA-104 | webgui: Graham Knop webgui-7.8 * r87f5df5 / (2 files in 2 dirs): fixed: UserList asset has SQL injection bug - http://bit.ly/dfiKTZ | 21:08 |
| CIA-104 | webgui: Graham Knop webgui-7.8 * ra3da060 / lib/WebGUI/Asset/Wobject/UserList.pm : forgot to pass param - http://bit.ly/9S4dNA | 21:13 |
| CIA-104 | webgui: Graham Knop master * rc11d195 / lib/WebGUI/Asset/Wobject/UserList.pm : forgot to pass param - http://bit.ly/dchPkk | 21:13 |
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| dionak | perlDreamer, I'm running into an issue that you might be able to help me with. I think it's more of a combination of the rich text editor and RSS than story manager. | 21:25 |
| +perlDreamer | what's the issue? | 21:25 |
| dionak | We have a story mgr setup on www.mcpolymers.com/news and a RSS feed on the homepage for the story mgr | 21:25 |
| dionak | when i edit an article, I always get a line break in the source of the html for the article which cuts off the text of the first paragraph on the home RSS feed | 21:26 |
| dionak | Can't seem to resolve this | 21:26 |
| dionak | and the issue is starting to spread into other articles | 21:26 |
| dionak | it's a pita :) | 21:26 |
| dionak | The syndicated content asset doesn't seem to read HTML markup | 21:27 |
| dionak | and treat the first html paragraph like a full paragraph. if a line break exists in the html src, that ends the first paragraph | 21:27 |
| +perlDreamer | which news article has a line break in it already? | 21:28 |
| dionak | Mallard Creek Polymers, Inc. Participates in Industry Conferences | 21:28 |
| dionak | it cuts off after part of a sentence where it says "Take a New Look" in bold | 21:28 |
| +perlDreamer | yup, there's the line break | 21:29 |
| dionak | on this page, http://www.mcpolymers.com/news, you can see it's happening in multiple articles | 21:29 |
| +perlDreamer | and this only happens when an existing article is edited? | 21:29 |
| +perlDreamer | which browser/OS ? and which version of WebGUI? | 21:30 |
| dionak | that's my current use-case. FF 3.6.3/Mac OS X 10.5 | 21:30 |
| dionak | checking WG | 21:31 |
| +perlDreamer | 7.7.22 | 21:31 |
| dionak | yes | 21:31 |
| dionak | is it a bug? | 21:32 |
| dionak | or an 'undocumented feature'? ;) | 21:32 |
| +perlDreamer | it's yet another reason to replace TinyMCE with YUI Editor | 21:33 |
| +perlDreamer | offhand, I'd guess it's a bug in TinyMCE that we'll have to workaround in the SyndicatedContent | 21:34 |
| +perlDreamer | in the item_loop in the SC template, which description template variable is being used? | 21:34 |
| dionak | descriptionFirstParagraph | 21:35 |
| dionak | it looks like \n is being stripped via a regex in SyndicatedContent.pm | 21:37 |
| dionak | maybe it needs a \r or \r\n | 21:37 |
| dionak | in addition | 21:37 |
| dionak | in sub getTemplateVariables | 21:38 |
| +perlDreamer | I think that's the problem | 21:38 |
| +perlDreamer | the paragraphs are ASCII based, instead of HTML based | 21:39 |
| +perlDreamer | are you talking line 295, dionak? | 21:40 |
| dionak | in 7.7.22 source on that server, I think it could be done on line 284 for descriptionFirst2paragraphs b/c that's used for the value of descriptionFirstParagraph on the next line down | 21:42 |
| dionak | my perl's a bit rusty when it comes to the regex | 21:43 |
| +perlDreamer | it's a non-greedy regex, pulling two sets of characters followed by a newline | 21:43 |
| +perlDreamer | dionak, it's definitely a bug | 21:49 |
| +perlDreamer | because it can make bad HTML without closing tags | 21:50 |
| dionak | good point. do you know if tinymce would use \n or \r\n in this case? | 21:50 |
| dionak | i'd like to strip that out | 21:50 |
| dionak | before it becomes a client issue | 21:50 |
| +perlDreamer | I have no idea why it's doing that | 21:50 |
| dionak | k, thanks for the help. i'll file it | 21:51 |
| dionak | probably needs a test | 21:51 |
| dionak | to expose the bug | 21:51 |
| +perlDreamer | it wouldn't hurt | 21:52 |
| +perlDreamer | and since we can use file based RSS feeds in the SC test, it should be easy to expose | 21:52 |
| dionak | um, yea.. | 21:53 |
| dionak | :) | 21:53 |
| dionak | stated like a master tester. | 21:54 |
| +perlDreamer | oh, a little testing never hurt anyone | 21:54 |
| +perlDreamer | especially someone who writes tests like the Knowmad crew | 21:55 |
| dionak | yea, you're right. I'll work on fixing my local install so i can test again. | 21:55 |
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| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * rf3d95f9 / (2 files in 2 dirs): Change how the query is persisted in Wiki search results. Fixes bug #11558. - http://bit.ly/dpFDRW | 23:23 |
| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.8 * rd070da3 / (2 files in 2 dirs): Change how the query is persisted in Wiki search results. Fixes bug #11558. - http://bit.ly/bHT2LD | 23:24 |
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| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * rf3010db / (docs/changelog/7.x.x.txt lib/WebGUI/Auth.pm): Persist data entered by the user in the registration form, but keep falling back to user profile field defaults if no user input is given. Fixes bug #11533. - http://bit.ly/9rFiCI | 00:12 |
| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.8 * re401985 / (docs/changelog/7.x.x.txt lib/WebGUI/Auth.pm): Persist data entered by the user in the registration form, but keep falling back to user profile field defaults if no user input is given. Fixes bug #11533. - http://bit.ly/d1hhXd | 00:13 |
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| @frodwith | perlDreamer, did you write WebGUI::ProgressBar? | 00:47 |
| +perlDreamer | Guilty as charged, frodwith | 00:47 |
| @frodwith | perlDreamer++. I like it. | 00:47 |
| +perlDreamer | it was really a collaboration between 4 people | 00:48 |
| +perlDreamer | rizen, patspam, preaction and me | 00:48 |
| @preaction | eh, all i did was say how JS could be used to keep updating the thing | 00:48 |
| @frodwith | $_++ for qw(rizen patspam preaction perlDreamer) | 00:48 |
| @frodwith | then | 00:48 |
| @frodwith | :) | 00:49 |
| +perlDreamer | more of WebGUI needs to be updated to use it | 00:49 |
| +perlDreamer | yeah, and all JT did was come up the original idea | 00:50 |
| +perlDreamer | and all patspam did was show us how to beat the buffering | 00:50 |
| +perlDreamer | and when we all worked together, out came something great | 00:50 |
| Haarg | preaction, with yui on a cdn, do you have an idea on how you want the API to work? | 00:52 |
| @preaction | that will be frodwith's boat. more than likely we'll have a set of JS stuff in every page that will initialize the YUI 3 loader / gallery stuff with the proper variables | 00:54 |
| Haarg | we still need a mechanism to determine the URLs to use though | 00:55 |
| @preaction | those will be in the config file | 00:55 |
| Haarg | two issues with that | 00:56 |
| Haarg | one is http vs https | 00:56 |
| @preaction | scheme-less URL | 00:56 |
| Haarg | second is using the correct version | 00:56 |
| Haarg | might make sense to just force people to include the version number in a local copy like the cdn versions do | 00:57 |
| @preaction | well, the utility we provide to set up the local copy could do so for them | 01:05 |
| Haarg | it would also help with caching | 01:06 |
| Haarg | would never have to worry about the browser using outdated yui files | 01:06 |
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| +perlDreamer | did we ever make a plan to convert the utility scripts over to being wgd run friendly? | 02:07 |
| Haarg | what problems currently exist? | 02:11 |
| Haarg | there is also wgd util | 02:12 |
| +perlDreamer | that's what I was thinking of | 02:14 |
| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r6965611 / (docs/changelog/7.x.x.txt lib/WebGUI/Shop/AddressBook.pm): Make the state field required in cart addresses. Fixes bug #11564. - http://bit.ly/dcsgsw | 02:15 |
| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r18301e3 / lib/WebGUI/Shop/AddressBook.pm : Make address form fields less sticky. If you want data saved, you must choose the Update address option. - http://bit.ly/bzNjsN | 02:44 |
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| +perlDreamer | stoopid flow-through logic cases | 03:14 |
| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r22d6806 / (lib/WebGUI/Shop/Cart.pm lib/WebGUI/i18n/English/Shop.pm): Better UI for changing addresses. Prevent bad things from happening if the user delete required fields. - http://bit.ly/amol8m | 03:19 |
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| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * rbd41360 / (lib/WebGUI/Shop/Cart.pm lib/WebGUI/i18n/English/Shop.pm): Internationalize all cart error messages. - http://bit.ly/dhhnFh | 05:22 |
| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * rd1559c0 / (docs/changelog/7.x.x.txt docs/gotcha.txt): Document new required modules. - http://bit.ly/clCC5y | 05:28 |
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| +perlDreamer | preaction, if it's optional, we can always seed preload.exclude | 07:32 |
| @preaction | then someone adds the WebGUI::Cache::CHI driver to their config and it's not preloaded | 07:33 |
| @preaction | do we add all the cache drivers? preventing preloading of them? | 07:33 |
| +perlDreamer | I'd say only the new ones | 07:33 |
| +perlDreamer | and if they can access and alter their config file, they can also change preload.exclude | 07:34 |
| @preaction | okay, so we let everyone know that "if you want something new, you can't just enable it, you also have to disable the preventing of it preloading" | 07:34 |
| +perlDreamer | yes | 07:34 |
| @preaction | unless there is no other, better solution, i don't like it | 07:35 |
| @preaction | but i'm going to bed, hence the e-mail discussion | 07:35 |
| +perlDreamer | read chromatic's recent discussion of LWP::UserAgent | 07:36 |
| +perlDreamer | I think it's applicable | 07:36 |
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| dc813 | can anyone tell me what is the op= to see a password recovery page? | 17:21 |
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| ckotil | op=auth;method=emailResetPassword ? | 17:30 |
| ckotil | or this op=auth;method=recoverPassword | 17:31 |
| dc813 | thanks | 17:33 |
| dc813 | it tells me "The function you are attempting to call is not available for this authentication module" | 17:33 |
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| ckotil | yeah i get that too. but im using a custom auth module for my SSO | 17:36 |
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| ckotil | in op=editSettings under auth do you have password recovery enabled? | 17:38 |
| dc813 | yes | 17:41 |
| dc813 | nm figured it out | 17:59 |
| dc813 | thanks ckotil | 17:59 |
| dc813 | i had the auth type set to ldap not webgui | 17:59 |
| dc813 | thanks for the help | 17:59 |
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| SDuensin | Here at last! | 18:01 |
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| +perlDreamer | this is funny: http://theoatmeal.com/comics/websites_stop | 21:13 |
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| ckotil | heh | 21:25 |
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| @scrottie | (tom oatmeal)++ | 21:52 |
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| Haarg | oh cool, i just noticed virtualbox can do branching snapshots now | 22:30 |
| Haarg | don't have to keep 3 different vms around just for ie | 22:30 |
| +perlDreamer | nice! | 22:30 |
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| Haarg | perlDreamer, for setRow, i'm thinking we need it to attempt an insert, and if that fails attempt an update | 23:11 |
| +perlDreamer | Haarg, if you think that's best, it's okay | 23:14 |
| +perlDreamer | but it absolutely must be able to handle sparse data | 23:14 |
| +perlDreamer | since there are WebGUI subsystems that use that | 23:14 |
| Haarg | yeah | 23:14 |
| +perlDreamer | the way that it was working, large parts of WebGUI were broken | 23:19 |
| +perlDreamer | so I took the most expedient solution, which was to bring over the code from master | 23:19 |
| +perlDreamer | what's wrong with using REPLACE INTO, Haarg/ | 23:19 |
| Haarg | that won't handle sparse updates | 23:20 |
| Haarg | afaik | 23:20 |
| +perlDreamer | it won't | 23:21 |
| Haarg | might be able to use ON DUPLICATE KEY UPDATE though | 23:21 |
| +perlDreamer | but the whole set of code works, even if the current code doesn't | 23:21 |
| +perlDreamer | it only does REPLACE INTO if the key is new | 23:22 |
| Haarg | yes, but that doesn't work if there are constraints | 23:22 |
| +perlDreamer | what kind of constraints? | 23:23 |
| Haarg | foreign keys or other types of things | 23:23 |
| +perlDreamer | we don't use any of those now, do we? | 23:24 |
| Haarg | we want to | 23:24 |
| +perlDreamer | ah, okay | 23:24 |
| +perlDreamer | i thought I was missing something | 23:24 |
| +perlDreamer | (again) | 23:24 |
| Haarg | my initial suggestion of insert or update on failure won't work either | 23:24 |
| Haarg | so i guess ON DUPLICATE KEY UPDATE is going to be the way to go | 23:25 |
| +perlDreamer | we should extend the test suite to check the sparse setRow call | 23:25 |
| +perlDreamer | I get to work on wg8 tomorrow, and I'll do that first | 23:26 |
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| +perlDreamer | hm | 00:06 |
| +perlDreamer | a public spectre method called "runItNowDamnIt" would be frowned upon, wouldn't it? | 00:07 |
| @preaction | prolly | 00:07 |
| +perlDreamer | I want a spectre method that can be called by approveVersionTag | 00:08 |
| +perlDreamer | it should be a thin wrapper around returnInstanceToRunnableState | 00:08 |
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| +patspam | hola | 00:51 |
| +perlDreamer | hey, patspam! | 00:51 |
| +patspam | I have cafes within walking distance again, wooh! | 00:51 |
| +patspam | re: #11560 | 00:52 |
| +patspam | mail footer not appearing in Outlook due to its handling of multipart/mixed | 00:52 |
| +perlDreamer | yes? | 00:52 |
| +patspam | it seems that the footer should be concatenated with the email body in Send.pm | 00:53 |
| +patspam | rather than using addText() | 00:53 |
| +patspam | but for that to work, you want the footer to be in html when the email body is in html | 00:53 |
| +patspam | (in Message.pm actually) | 00:53 |
| +patspam | WebGUI::Inbox::Message::create | 00:54 |
| +perlDreamer | sidebar - preaction: the caching performance needs to be rechecked, since I had to turn on 'is_size_aware' in order to make the Operation/Cache work | 00:55 |
| @preaction | i just installed the latest version on the alumni site, and it's still 20% faster | 00:55 |
| +perlDreamer | latest as in not released yet? | 00:56 |
| @preaction | yes | 00:56 |
| +perlDreamer | awesome! | 00:56 |
| @preaction | it's more faster because the alumni DB is on app2, and i benched from app1 | 00:56 |
| +patspam | guh, addText/Html followed by addFooter happens in 9 different places | 00:56 |
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| +perlDreamer | patspam, Inbox & Mail/Send are crufty | 00:56 |
| @preaction | yep! | 00:56 |
| +perlDreamer | preaction, what if addFooter didn't add a footer, but actually appended to the end of addText/Html instead? | 00:57 |
| @preaction | what if we didn't use multipart/mixed and instead only used multipart for alternatives? | 00:58 |
| +patspam | so how about this.. if it's currently addText($body) followed by addFooter, we turn it into addText($body . getFooter), and if it's addHtml(body) we turn do the same but translate \n into <br>? | 00:58 |
| @preaction | what if you addText twice? two footers? | 00:59 |
| +patspam | I mean in the places where addFooter is currently being called | 00:59 |
| @preaction | shouldn't addFooter be called automatically by send? | 00:59 |
| +patspam | should, yes! | 01:00 |
| @preaction | so let's fix it that way and anyone who has a problem with footers in outlook because of custom code can fix it that way too? | 01:00 |
| +patspam | fix it which way? | 01:00 |
| +patspam | make it called automatically? | 01:01 |
| Haarg | that's strange that outlook isn't able to handle multipart/mixed at all for signatures. doing that is fairly standard behavior. | 01:01 |
| @preaction | well, it is an old version of outlook we're talking about | 01:01 |
| +perlDreamer | Haarg: error: expectation of "standard behavior" in conjunction with Microsoft products | 01:01 |
| +patspam | I'm testing on Outlook 2007 | 01:01 |
| @preaction | that's the latest? | 01:02 |
| +patspam | no.. there's that weird version with "ribbons" | 01:02 |
| +perlDreamer | Outlook 2010 | 01:03 |
| +perlDreamer | why do we send approval notices to the person who commited a tag, instead of the person who created the tag? | 01:05 |
| @preaction | because there may be more than one person who could possible commit the tag | 01:06 |
| +patspam | I'll try it in Outlook 2010 and report back | 01:06 |
| +perlDreamer | preaction: i had a fix for the "Viewing pending assets in the trash bug" | 01:11 |
| +perlDreamer | but it breaks notifying the user who committed the tag | 01:12 |
| +perlDreamer | since it allows an admin to unlock the tag, join it, and cruise the site | 01:13 |
| +perlDreamer | and then they can commit it after making edits and such | 01:13 |
| CIA-104 | webgui: Paul Driver master * r503a378 / (6 files in 5 dirs): ProgressBar::run and now Asset->www_copy has a bar - http://bit.ly/94nf7U | 01:35 |
| +perlDreamer | frodwith, any reason that all of the progress bar code couldn't be refactored to use ->run | 02:08 |
| @frodwith | nope, that's an excellent idea | 02:08 |
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| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r55d55b4 / (3 files in 3 dirs): Install better error handling code into RequestApprovalForVersionTag. Do not generate leading commas in workflow instance scratch data. - http://bit.ly/ad5Rvk | 02:21 |
| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.8 * r429b0bf / (3 files in 3 dirs): Install better error handling code into RequestApprovalForVersionTag. Do not generate leading commas in workflow instance scratch data. - http://bit.ly/cGUZh3 | 02:25 |
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| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.8 * r34115eb / (docs/changelog/7.x.x.txt lib/WebGUI/Group.pm): Fix typos in recursive Group->getAllUsers calls. Fixes bug #11566 - http://bit.ly/cFEtw8 | 04:41 |
| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r18de531 / (docs/changelog/7.x.x.txt lib/WebGUI/Group.pm): Fix typos in recursive Group->getAllUsers calls. Fixes bug #11566 - http://bit.ly/al9sXC | 04:41 |
| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.8 * r1599c24 / docs/create.sql : Preparing for 7.8.19 release. - http://bit.ly/cgWZwW | 04:51 |
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| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.8 * r084fee6 / (4 files in 4 dirs): Ready for 7.8.20 development cycle. - http://bit.ly/ci1MsH | 05:22 |
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| +perlDreamer | Lost is on | 07:00 |
| +perlDreamer | Later! | 07:00 |
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| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie WebGUI8 * r78426b7 / t/Asset/AssetExportHtml.t : Update test assets for export tests. - http://bit.ly/9ltHuU | 08:08 |
| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie WebGUI8 * r2a6e50b / lib/WebGUI/Asset/EMSSubmissionForm.pm : Make this code readable. - http://bit.ly/9beaDo | 08:13 |
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| +bartjol | Morning | 17:07 |
| SDuensin | AM HERE! | 17:11 |
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| SquOnk | Greetings | 17:16 |
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| +bartjol | aah, free in an hour, gamenight | 17:35 |
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| * bartjol is here to annoy people that just started working | 17:36 | |
| * perlDreamer hugs bartjol, because SynQ is not here to do it | 17:37 | |
| +bartjol | perlDreamer: what are the troubles with CHI, except the dependancies when installing manually? | 17:37 |
| +bartjol | just curious | 17:37 |
| +perlDreamer | troubles? | 17:37 |
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| +perlDreamer | there was a bug fixed yesterday about working with the Cache i the UI | 17:38 |
| +bartjol | complications? | 17:38 |
| +bartjol | ah | 17:38 |
| SquOnk | perlDreamer: I have a suggestion for the upgrade script. I was hit with a couple of "border cases" today :-) | 17:39 |
| SquOnk | perlDreamer: One, if the scripts cannot connect to the database, it bombs out like there's no tomorrow... | 17:39 |
| +perlDreamer | SquOnk, that's a known WebGUI bug | 17:40 |
| SquOnk | perlDreamer: ...I had 7.8.17 installed without a database an attempted to upgrade it to 7.8.18 :-) | 17:40 |
| +perlDreamer | posted on the boards | 17:40 |
| +bartjol | other question, at the moment the wre upgrade script does not include an update for custom perl modules, might there be some options to include those | 17:41 |
| +bartjol | ? | 17:41 |
| SquOnk | perlDreamer: Two, if the script connects to the database, but it isn't a webgui database, it bombs out in an even uglier way... | 17:41 |
| SquOnk | perlDreamer: So WebGUI is bombing out, not upgrade.pl? | 17:41 |
| +perlDreamer | SquOnk: WebGUI::SQL has a tizzy fit and throws a fatal error | 17:42 |
| +perlDreamer | bartjol: it could be made to do that, by running testEnvironment.pl maybe? | 17:42 |
| +perlDreamer | SquOnk: I could be wrong about that | 17:43 |
| +bartjol | if it first looks for the custom modules and reinstalls them | 17:43 |
| +bartjol | mmm, I have to discuss this with Koen, he prefers to install modules manually | 17:43 |
| +bartjol | and this way I suppose you require CPAN | 17:44 |
| +perlDreamer | time for me to take kids to school | 17:45 |
| +perlDreamer | bbiaw | 17:45 |
| +perlDreamer | I'm back | 18:03 |
| +bartjol | yeah, you missed the most interesting discussion :) | 18:03 |
| +perlDreamer | don't y'all talk if I'm not here? | 18:03 |
| +bartjol | nope | 18:04 |
| +perlDreamer | It's not the perlDreamer channel, you know | 18:04 |
| +bartjol | yeah, but in dutch daytime it is very quiet | 18:04 |
| +bartjol | those southern americans that wanted us to do their jobs where always the first to come online | 18:05 |
| +bartjol | not meaning Squonk off course | 18:05 |
| SquOnk | lol | 18:05 |
| +bartjol | but, was I right about that cpan statement? | 18:08 |
| +perlDreamer | I didn't understand what you meant about requiring CPAN | 18:13 |
| +perlDreamer | do you mean CPAN.pm? | 18:13 |
| +perlDreamer | or access to CPAN? | 18:13 |
| +perlDreamer | or something else? | 18:13 |
| +bartjol | ah | 18:14 |
| +bartjol | because the wre upgrade scripts only reset your version setting | 18:14 |
| @preaction | bartjol: Haarg is working on a new upgrade system that would be easy to plug in extra scripts and packages | 18:15 |
| +bartjol | and if you update, let's say the perl version, it is just untarred over the old one | 18:15 |
| +bartjol | aaah | 18:15 |
| +bartjol | lovely | 18:15 |
| +bartjol | but, finishing my sentence: the custom modules don't work with the new perl and have to be reinstalled | 18:16 |
| +bartjol | had that recently | 18:16 |
| +bartjol | but I mean that if you want it the automated, you need cpan. | 18:17 |
| @preaction | yeah, nothing we can do about that | 18:18 |
| +bartjol | no, well | 18:18 |
| +bartjol | then I have to tell Koen that wre upgrading costs me hours of work | 18:18 |
| +perlDreamer | many, many hours | 18:18 |
| +perlDreamer | that could be better spent doing other things | 18:18 |
| +perlDreamer | like sailing | 18:18 |
| +bartjol | depending on the amount of custom modules | 18:18 |
| @preaction | i would like to have a better way of describing our perl module requirements, in a plaintext file or something, so that there can be a "requires.custom" file or something that testEnvironment.pl can pick up on | 18:18 |
| @preaction | because i have many sites that i don't know what it requires, and the people who do know are either gone or just away | 18:19 |
| +bartjol | like a json file with the module and optional version? | 18:19 |
| @preaction | something like that yeah | 18:19 |
| @preaction | with one file being "requires.modules" and another being "requires.custom" | 18:20 |
| @preaction | so requires.modules is WebGUI, requires.custom is anything else | 18:20 |
| +bartjol | is there also a way to actually look for obsolete modules, like checking the webgui requirements and comparing them with perldoc perllocoal? | 18:21 |
| @preaction | not automatically, but you could do it manually | 18:21 |
| +bartjol | ah, that sounds like a joyfull work | 18:22 |
| @preaction | it does indeed | 18:22 |
| @preaction | but it doesn't matter, they're just taking up a minor amount of disk space, they aren't being loaded into memory | 18:22 |
| +perlDreamer | we're reinventing the various distribution tools | 18:22 |
| +perlDreamer | Dist::Zilla, for example | 18:22 |
| @preaction | we can't use Dist::Zilla, koen won't use CPAN | 18:23 |
| +bartjol | well it might very well be that is a "tough luck" situation for me | 18:25 |
| +bartjol | I can imagine that just "reattaching" modules to a new perl isn't the way to go, if that is pssible at all | 18:26 |
| @preaction | it isn't possible | 18:27 |
| +bartjol | very well | 18:27 |
| +bartjol | well, I just dont wake up in the middle of the night, screaming "wget; tar; cd; perl Makefile.pl; make;make test;makeinstall; aaaaah another dependancy" | 18:29 |
| +bartjol | ohh, that last is earlier in the process | 18:29 |
| Haarg | i would really like to convert testEnvironment.pl to Build.PL | 18:30 |
| Haarg | that would make installing (most of) the dependancies really easy | 18:30 |
| Haarg | but there are some unresolved issues that i haven't figured out the best way to resolve yet | 18:31 |
| +bartjol | ah, but the start sounds fine | 18:31 |
| @preaction | but Build.PL probably relies on CPAN.pm to pull deps | 18:32 |
| Haarg | yes it does | 18:32 |
| Haarg | but i don't really see that as a problem | 18:32 |
| @preaction | i don't, but koen does. poor bart :( | 18:32 |
| Haarg | for a developer or similar they can use ./Build installdeps | 18:32 |
| Haarg | and if they don't want to use that | 18:33 |
| Haarg | you still have META.{yml,json} to read out the deps and handle them however you like | 18:33 |
| +bartjol | well, if the reasons for manual install are good I don't really mind | 18:33 |
| @preaction | but CPAN.pm does exactly what you describe, only it does it for you instead of making you do it manually | 18:34 |
| Haarg | yes | 18:34 |
| @preaction | Haarg: any way for developer to add custom requirements? | 18:34 |
| Haarg | they could have their own Build.PL | 18:35 |
| @preaction | ok | 18:35 |
| Haarg | hell, we could build a WebGUI::Build module they could use | 18:35 |
| Haarg | and it could automatically add paths to preload.custom | 18:35 |
| Haarg | i would really like to have everything work as standard CPAN modules, but there are problems with that | 18:36 |
| +bartjol | grmbl, I have to go, interesting stuff | 18:37 |
| +bartjol | thanks, don't worry about me too much, weeds and vermin don't get exterminated that easily | 18:38 |
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| Trex | perlDramer: I thought I'd pop online if you wanted to ask questions about the IP-group bug we've been exchanging messages on via the bug tracker. | 19:13 |
| Trex | Sorry, perlDreamer | 19:14 |
| +perlDreamer | Trex, that would be great | 19:17 |
| +perlDreamer | although I don't really have the ability to work from machines with multiple IP's | 19:17 |
| +perlDreamer | so the fact that you say that you still get cached content, after clearing the cache, sounds funny to me | 19:17 |
| +perlDreamer | either the cache isn't being cleared, or there's something in the middle which is caching for you | 19:18 |
| Trex | Yes, that is what makes me wonder whether the sessions or group memberships aren't behaving as expected. | 19:18 |
| +perlDreamer | the group memberships are cached as memory (a hash) in the session | 19:18 |
| +perlDreamer | I don't think it's possible for it to carry over from request to request | 19:19 |
| +perlDreamer | and it definitely won't carry over between different sessions | 19:19 |
| Trex | Here's a quick demo of what I was describing in my last post... | 19:20 |
| Trex | http://demo.webgui.org/demo1273673029_123/home/new-test-snippet | 19:20 |
| Trex | You should see a permission denied page. | 19:20 |
| +perlDreamer | yup | 19:20 |
| Trex | And now you should seen teh snippet's contents. | 19:20 |
| +perlDreamer | yes | 19:21 |
| Trex | ...and back to permission denied. | 19:21 |
| +perlDreamer | let's try this | 19:22 |
| +perlDreamer | in the snippet, add a macro which uses the groupText macro to print out either IN or OUT | 19:22 |
| +perlDreamer | IN if you're in the group, OUT if you're not | 19:22 |
| Trex | Can you give me the syntax for that? | 19:23 |
| Trex | (Otherwise I'd have to go look it up) | 19:23 |
| +perlDreamer | ^GroupText(groupName,IN,OUT); | 19:23 |
| +perlDreamer | and you reset it back to permission denied by clearing the cache? | 19:23 |
| Trex | OK, try now. | 19:26 |
| +perlDreamer | I see IN | 19:27 |
| Trex | The view permission and group membership macro are both set to the IP group that is based on an IP that I DO have access to. | 19:27 |
| Trex | Same here...from a variety of IPs. | 19:27 |
| Trex | OK, try again. You should see OUT | 19:28 |
| Trex | The view permissions on the snippet are the same, but the macro has been changed to the IP that no one has used. | 19:28 |
| +perlDreamer | I'm going to add some more macros to that sites config file | 19:29 |
| +perlDreamer | Let's get some more debug output, to check again for content caching versus group caching | 19:29 |
| +perlDreamer | Please add these: | 19:29 |
| +perlDreamer | ^Env(REMOTE_ADDR); | 19:29 |
| +perlDreamer | ^Env(HTTP_X_FORWARDED_FOR); | 19:30 |
| Trex | OK. I left the default admin login, so you can modify the snippet yourself if you like...but I'll proceed with these. | 19:30 |
| +perlDreamer | ^SessionId; | 19:30 |
| Trex | Those three have been added. | 19:31 |
| +perlDreamer | Is this the sessionId that you see: Uzh7J6wrtI9ckfSBgyf8BQ | 19:31 |
| Trex | Nope. I've got x_bcUxiHus6saP7SJT9WdA | 19:31 |
| +perlDreamer | I also see "OUT" | 19:32 |
| Trex | Yes, I still see OUT | 19:32 |
| Trex | The group macro is still set to the "random" IP group. | 19:33 |
| Trex | 169.99.179.39/32 | 19:33 |
| +perlDreamer | okay, I'm convinced, it's gotta be group caching somehow | 19:33 |
| Trex | Unfortunately, that's where my ability to help out probably ends. I don't have any experience with how WebGUI's caching system works. | 19:35 |
| +perlDreamer | the caching system has 3 components | 19:38 |
| +perlDreamer | WebGUI::Cache, which caches either to the filesystem or the db | 19:39 |
| +perlDreamer | WebGUI::Session::Stow, which is an in-memory cache in the Session | 19:39 |
| +perlDreamer | and WebGUI::Session::Stow, which is a database cache tied to the session, and persists as long as the session does | 19:39 |
| +perlDreamer | that last one is really WebGUI::Session::Scratch | 19:40 |
| +perlDreamer | user membership is cached in Stow | 19:40 |
| +perlDreamer | so if you ask WebGUI if a user is a member of a group, that cache only lasts for the duration of the request | 19:40 |
| +perlDreamer | but... | 19:40 |
| +perlDreamer | the set of members in a group is cached in WebGUI::Cache | 19:41 |
| Trex | Is the set of members in WebGUI::Cache session-agnostic? | 19:45 |
| Trex | The behavior seems to be that when WebGUI is deciding whether a request has permission to view content, it's checking against usernames in general, and ignoring specific sessions. | 19:46 |
| Trex | Either that, or once a user becomes a member of an IP-based group, that membership is applied to all sessions for that visitor, regardless of IP for the sessions. | 19:48 |
| +perlDreamer | It's done by userId lookup | 19:51 |
| +perlDreamer | the problem being that in almost all cases, userId is unique to a session | 19:51 |
| +perlDreamer | except for Visitor | 19:51 |
| +perlDreamer | preaction ping for future reference, or feel free to chime in | 19:54 |
| +perlDreamer | one very, very simple solution to this would be to NEVER cache Visitor in the group lookups | 19:54 |
| +perlDreamer | and to force reverification on every visitor request | 19:55 |
| +perlDreamer | but that's not going to help WebGUI go fast | 19:55 |
| +perlDreamer | a second way would be not do list of users for Scratch or IP users, and instead return sets of requirements that have to be met | 19:57 |
| Trex | Would it be possible to add some sort of condition on rendering of content that IF the view restriction is an IP or Scratch-based group and IF user is Visitor, THEN go confirm IP/Scratch for that session? | 19:59 |
| Trex | That way you'd only have a hit on WebGUI's speed if someone were using these types of groups, and then only for visitors. | 19:59 |
| +perlDreamer | that's not a bad compromise, but there are also cases where people share logins, and you still want the IP/Scratch requirements to be met in those cases as well | 20:00 |
| +perlDreamer | so having it only work for Visitor is not the most correct solution | 20:00 |
| +perlDreamer | and, while I tested that IP validation code very thoroughly, I didn't test using the SAME user from different IP addresses | 20:02 |
| Trex | You said that userId is unique to a session, except for Visitor -- so with users who share logins, would the different sessions for the same user be already taken care of? | 20:02 |
| +perlDreamer | yes, it's a rare case though | 20:03 |
| +perlDreamer | people should not do that | 20:03 |
| +perlDreamer | and I'm starting to think that people should not use scratch or IP based groups | 20:03 |
| Trex | Sadly, both are WebGUI features that I had hopes of using in various projects. | 20:04 |
| +perlDreamer | this is usually the point where patspam jumps in to advocate his WebGUI mod | 20:06 |
| +perlDreamer | because it would work perfectly in this case | 20:06 |
| Trex | What does the mod do? | 20:07 |
| +perlDreamer | it extends the basic WebGUI permission system to allow "other" kinds of membership activities | 20:07 |
| +perlDreamer | Flux! | 20:08 |
| +perlDreamer | that's what it's called | 20:08 |
| +perlDreamer | with it, you can say things like | 20:10 |
| +perlDreamer | this user is a member of a group if they're from this IP range | 20:10 |
| +perlDreamer | and have a scratch variable | 20:11 |
| +perlDreamer | and put an entry into a Thingy over there | 20:11 |
| +perlDreamer | and has at least 25 karma from this forum | 20:11 |
| +perlDreamer | and so on | 20:11 |
| +perlDreamer | very, very generalized | 20:11 |
| Trex | Is it something more complicated to implement than your average bazaar contribution? | 20:12 |
| Trex | (Just looked to see if there was an entry for "flux" there.) | 20:12 |
| +perlDreamer | it's a rework of the codebase | 20:12 |
| +perlDreamer | so it is more complicated than a plugin | 20:12 |
| Trex | Ah. Gotcha. | 20:12 |
| +perlDreamer | also has the side-effect of moving you out of core code | 20:13 |
| Trex | So...if I wanted to add functionality to a site where visitors could opt-in to seeing content that is normally not shown, that would have been something scratch variable groups could be used for... | 20:14 |
| Trex | Is there a way to have such functionality a different way? | 20:14 |
| Trex | (opting in would last the remainder of the visitor's session) | 20:15 |
| Trex | Would the session scratch variables that are available within the templating system separate from this group issue? | 20:18 |
| Trex | So if I used a <tmpl_if session.scratch.optin><tmpl_else> within various templates to show/hide content, would that remain unique to each visitor session and avoid the group membership issues? | 20:20 |
| Trex | Sadly not -- just checked, and even the scratch values in templates are shared between visitor sessions. | 20:29 |
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| Trex | Wait! No, I was wrong. The template variables seem more robust -- I just forgot to set caching to 0 when setting up a new test snippet. *facepalm* | 20:32 |
| Trex | http://demo.webgui.org/demo1273673029_123/home/scratch-snippet?op=setScratch;scratchName=optin;scratchValue=0 | 20:33 |
| Trex | vs... | 20:33 |
| Trex | http://demo.webgui.org/demo1273673029_123/home/scratch-snippet?op=setScratch;scratchName=optin;scratchValue=1 | 20:33 |
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| Trex | Thanks for your help, perlDreamer. Sorry to have pointed out what appears to be a rather challenging bug to deal with. | 20:56 |
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| +perlDreamer | eh, we'd rather find and fix them | 20:56 |
| +perlDreamer | than have them out there broken | 20:56 |
| @tavisto | yeah whatever perlDreamer, you never fix em | 20:56 |
| +perlDreamer | I'll fix you, you trash talking marketroid! | 20:57 |
| @tavisto | hehe | 20:57 |
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| +perlDreamer | were your ears burning this morning patspam? | 21:21 |
| +patspam | ooh, should I find the online backlogs? | 21:22 |
| +perlDreamer | mentalhouse.net | 21:23 |
| +perlDreamer | we were talking about flux | 21:24 |
| +patspam | ah yeah | 21:24 |
| +patspam | sleeping in a room with no windows is evil | 21:25 |
| +patspam | I accidentally overslept by 5hrs this morning | 21:25 |
| +perlDreamer | oy! | 21:25 |
| +patspam | helen was doing an all-nighter so she didn't mind | 21:26 |
| +patspam | I'm going to buy one of those sunrise simulator alarm clocks | 21:26 |
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| Haarg | preaction, perlDreamer, i thought of a possible solution to having to use FindBin in test scripts | 21:29 |
| +perlDreamer | I liked your tlib idea | 21:29 |
| +perlDreamer | but what do you have now? | 21:29 |
| Haarg | we could move WebGUI::Test into lib | 21:29 |
| +perlDreamer | I don't like that idea | 21:29 |
| Haarg | which also means you can use it easier if for any custom code | 21:29 |
| Haarg | it would need to not be preloaded, but that's pretty easy to resolve | 21:30 |
| Haarg | something that has to be solved anyway for my upgrades and WebGUI::Command stuff | 21:30 |
| Haarg | what do you not like about it? | 21:31 |
| +perlDreamer | it's like oil and water | 21:31 |
| +perlDreamer | production code and testing code | 21:31 |
| +perlDreamer | should be kept apart | 21:31 |
| Haarg | well, if it were just to due to the FindBin thing i would agree | 21:32 |
| Haarg | but it is a useful general purpose library for writing tests (against webgui) | 21:32 |
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| Haarg | custom code would be able to use it directly without doing some kind of even uglier search for WebGUI's t/lib | 21:33 |
| +perlDreamer | this is true | 21:33 |
| +perlDreamer | it would be nicer if WebGUI::Paths did the work for you, for that | 21:34 |
| Haarg | especially if we ever get closer to a CPAN style distro in which case t/ probably wouldn't even exist anymore. | 21:34 |
| +perlDreamer | huh? | 21:34 |
| +perlDreamer | t is like the defacto standard for tests | 21:34 |
| Haarg | an installed cpan module doesn't have t - it only exists during the install phase | 21:34 |
| +perlDreamer | mmmm, good point | 21:35 |
| Haarg | i'm not certain it is the way to go, but i seems reasonable | 21:36 |
| Haarg | *it | 21:36 |
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| SDuensin | Hey all you PB guys with Macs... Time to interrupt actual work. Both CrossOver Games 9.0 *AND* Steam released for the Mac today! Valve has 62 titles ready to go! | 22:35 |
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| +perlDreamer | The sacrifices I make for my wife | 23:21 |
| +perlDreamer | take care of home and family so she can attend school | 23:22 |
| +perlDreamer | make her lunches | 23:22 |
| +perlDreamer | and today, today almost broke the bank | 23:22 |
| +perlDreamer | she borrowed my laptop speakers | 23:22 |
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| @tavisto | yeah I installed Steam a few minutes ago while eating lunch | 23:35 |
| @tavisto | from what I've read, the performance and everything is about equal to the PC version. I am expecting better than PC results though :) | 23:36 |
| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * rb1221a8 / (2 files in 2 dirs): DataTable pagination is not by page, but by result number. Fixes bug #11567. - http://bit.ly/d6x7vU | 23:48 |
| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.8 * r122b5b7 / (2 files in 2 dirs): DataTable pagination is not by page, but by result number. Fixes bug #11567. - http://bit.ly/bdO8Y4 | 23:49 |
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| sbaur | Hi everyone | 02:02 |
| sbaur | sorry if this is a total newb question (I am not a programmer), but does the WG API provide any help with sorting JSON? specifically DataForm entries by field value? | 02:04 |
| Haarg | the webgui api itself doesn't but it should be pretty simple to do | 02:08 |
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| sbaur | Haarg- we may have different definitions of simple :-) | 02:22 |
| sbaur | I'd be curious how you would approach sorting data form entries by a specific field | 02:24 |
| sbaur | Heading home now. If I have a chance, I'll pop back in tomorrow. Good night all! | 02:33 |
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| +patspam | http://www.webgui.org/wiki/passive-analytics | 03:21 |
| +patspam | another belated wiki article | 03:21 |
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| +perlDreamer | patspam, your documentation skills rock! | 03:47 |
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| @tavisto | wow yeah nice wiki post brotha | 04:13 |
| @tavisto | i agree on the charts and graphs | 04:13 |
| +perlDreamer | tavisto, you code that right up | 04:15 |
| +perlDreamer | and we'll fast track it into the core | 04:15 |
| @tavisto | no prob | 04:15 |
| +perlDreamer | you think you can hit next Tuesday's release? | 04:15 |
| +perlDreamer | or do you need extra time? | 04:16 |
| @tavisto | lets see... =sum(D4-D16) | 04:16 |
| @tavisto | er sorry.... "What is =sum(D4-D6)" | 04:16 |
| +perlDreamer | try this one instead, tavisto: =sum(DU-MM1) | 04:16 |
| @tavisto | hmm? I dunt git it.... | 04:16 |
| @tavisto | *Tavisto acts like Sean Connery on SNL Celebrity Jeopardy* | 04:17 |
| +perlDreamer | =sum(DU-MMY) | 04:17 |
| @tavisto | "that's the sound your motha made last night.... Trebek!" | 04:17 |
| @tavisto | "I'll take the rapists for $400 alex" | 04:17 |
| +perlDreamer | completely unable to faze the market man, perlDreamer is sent to the showers by the manager | 04:17 |
| @tavisto | muwhaha! | 04:18 |
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| SDuensin | Howdy all. | 16:51 |
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| +perlDreamer | I think it's time to buy a new battery | 18:26 |
| +perlDreamer | I just unplugged the charger for a second, and it suspended to disk automatically | 18:26 |
| +perlDreamer | either that, or Ubuntu and my Vostro are having another disagreement | 18:26 |
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| +perlDreamer | I have to drive Kathy to the school | 19:14 |
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| +perlDreamer | yay, back | 21:18 |
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| +perlDreamer | Haarg, do you have any objects about moving getFormProperties from Def::Object::Role into the meta class/ | 22:19 |
| +perlDreamer | let met try that again in English... | 22:20 |
| +perlDreamer | Do you have any objections to moving getFormProperties in the meta class? | 22:20 |
| Haarg | doesn't seem like it could be moved into the meta class | 22:21 |
| Haarg | it needs an object ref | 22:21 |
| +perlDreamer | there are some classes that do introspection into Definition | 22:22 |
| +perlDreamer | Group.pm, for cleaning up groups | 22:22 |
| +perlDreamer | EMSSubmissionForm, for building a form | 22:22 |
| +perlDreamer | it's possible that the current user could not build an Asset to do that with | 22:22 |
| +perlDreamer | and I'm not sure if a "code-only" asset (without anything in the db) would work, since properties can make calls to getParent | 22:23 |
| Haarg | where in EMSSubmissionForm are you referring to | 22:23 |
| +perlDreamer | www_editSubmissionForm | 22:23 |
| Haarg | and adding in-memory assets is needed and plannet | 22:23 |
| Haarg | *planned | 22:23 |
| Haarg | i have partial code for it somewhere | 22:24 |
| +perlDreamer | maybe I should hold off on updating the SubmissionForm for 8 until that's in | 22:24 |
| +perlDreamer | there's no lack of other tests to fix :) | 22:24 |
| Haarg | the more i work on this stuff the more i want a WebGUI::Site object that has config/db/settings/cache/maybe other things from session. | 22:28 |
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| +perlDreamer | Haarg, how's that different from having Session itself? | 23:15 |
| Haarg | no user session | 23:16 |
| Haarg | and no io stuff | 23:16 |
| +perlDreamer | and no http stuff | 23:16 |
| +perlDreamer | I see | 23:16 |
| +perlDreamer | just lighter | 23:16 |
| Haarg | it's primarily the user session stuff though | 23:16 |
| Haarg | for upgrades for example, i need to interact with settings | 23:18 |
| Haarg | but that isn't possible on an api level currently without dealing with userSession | 23:18 |
| +perlDreamer | I guess I'm so used to doing that that I don't think about it much | 23:22 |
| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie WebGUI8 * r7f23c28 / (4 files in 3 dirs): Change newByDynamicClass to newById. - http://bit.ly/c5XbNC | 23:50 |
| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie WebGUI8 * rc892e51 / (3 files): Update tests for wg8 and better cleanup. - http://bit.ly/djcMGx | 23:58 |
| --- Day changed Fri May 14 2010 | ||
| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r6dbd389 / lib/WebGUI/Asset/File/GalleryFile/Photo.pm : Remove dead code in the Photo asset. - http://bit.ly/c0nUcA | 00:05 |
| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.8 * r100ed48 / lib/WebGUI/Asset/File/GalleryFile/Photo.pm : Remove dead code in the Photo asset. - http://bit.ly/bzoKdC | 00:05 |
| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie WebGUI8 * r8a9e4c7 / lib/WebGUI/Asset/File/GalleryFile/Photo.pm : Remove dead code in the Photo asset. - http://bit.ly/94TOQ8 | 00:06 |
| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie WebGUI8 * r7db971d / t/Asset/File/GalleryFile/Photo/exif.t : Better clean-up. - http://bit.ly/awlZKm | 00:07 |
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| CIA-104 | webgui: khenn master * rb0c7c11 / (6 files in 6 dirs): Added sendNotification flag to WebGUI::Friends::rejectAddRequest. Added setting which supresses friend rejection notices from the inbox. - http://bit.ly/ahh434 | 01:18 |
| CIA-104 | webgui: khenn master * rcdc2ea2 / (2 files in 2 dirs): forgot to save a bug fix - http://bit.ly/bOn28f | 01:21 |
| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie WebGUI8 * r7258e11 / lib/WebGUI/Asset/Shortcut.pm : Move Shortcut definition methods to Moose methods. - http://bit.ly/cpFoL1 | 01:29 |
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| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie WebGUI8 * r4fef8cb / lib/WebGUI/Asset/File/GalleryFile/Photo.pm : Fix a bad sort. Clarify some POD in the Photo. - http://bit.ly/annci1 | 01:42 |
| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie WebGUI8 * r420cc3e / (4 files): A bunch of fixed Photo tests. - http://bit.ly/ckUZWc | 01:43 |
| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r2521387 / lib/WebGUI/Asset/File/GalleryFile/Photo.pm : Fix a bad sort. Clarify some POD in the Photo. - http://bit.ly/98dw0U | 01:51 |
| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.8 * r96a41d1 / lib/WebGUI/Asset/File/GalleryFile/Photo.pm : Fix a bad sort. Clarify some POD in the Photo. - http://bit.ly/9KCXRW | 01:51 |
| * perlDreamer is out for a while | 01:58 | |
| +perlDreamer | Haarg, thoughts on the test output from t/Asset/File/Image.t would be appreciated | 01:59 |
| Haarg | i'm out for a bit but i'll take a look when i get back | 02:02 |
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| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie WebGUI8 * r427fd5e / lib/WebGUI/Asset/File/Image.pm : Removing more dead code. There is no maxImageSize property. - http://bit.ly/dAD5mG | 05:47 |
| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie WebGUI8 * rc748943 / (t/Asset/File/Image/setfile.t t/Asset/File/setfile.t): Update these tests for file locations and better clean-up. - http://bit.ly/chW94d | 05:47 |
| +perlDreamer | preaction: WebGUI::Test::Maker seemed to survive the WebGUI 8 transition quite well | 06:02 |
| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie WebGUI8 * r5140ece / (17 files in 10 dirs): Large batch of test fixes, most for newByDynamicClass -> newById - http://bit.ly/aqwv4x | 06:03 |
| +perlDreamer | from 74 to 50 failing tests in two days | 06:42 |
| +perlDreamer | not too shabby | 06:42 |
| +perlDreamer | and a lot of those failures are due to fragile tests that need sterile environments to pass | 06:42 |
| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie WebGUI8 * rd690148 / lib/WebGUI/AssetTrash.pm : Fix a syntax error in the SQL to get shortcuts in the trash. - http://bit.ly/bmpxFe | 07:03 |
| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie WebGUI8 * r01ba820 / t/Asset/Shortcut/010-linked-asset.t : Update test for exception handling - http://bit.ly/cJfnub | 07:06 |
| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie WebGUI8 * rf3c1c0e / lib/WebGUI/AssetLineage.pm : Better handling of calling validParent without an asset, somewhere. - http://bit.ly/bPamw7 | 07:14 |
| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie WebGUI8 * re69a26d / t/Asset/Story.t : Update test to remove use_ok, SKIP. - http://bit.ly/avdxyo | 07:14 |
| +perlDreamer | hm | 07:46 |
| +perlDreamer | you can't build an asset from scratch with keywords | 07:46 |
| +perlDreamer | the keywords get dropped | 07:46 |
| +perlDreamer | because I disabled the init_arg for the keywords property | 07:46 |
| +perlDreamer | because it's really a placeholder for a WebGUI::Keywords object | 07:47 |
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| +perlDreamer | yo, tavisto | 07:59 |
| +perlDreamer | please tell me you're not looking for my cheerios bowl? | 07:59 |
| @tavisto | hah, no I saw your message and I need to try it | 07:59 |
| @tavisto | just got back from Ironman 2.. Was great! | 07:59 |
| +perlDreamer | really? | 07:59 |
| +perlDreamer | cool | 07:59 |
| @tavisto | not sure why people thought it wasn't as good. Was great with good action all the way through | 07:59 |
| @tavisto | I was expecting to be disappointed but was definitely not. | 08:00 |
| +perlDreamer | well, time for this old man to get to bed | 08:00 |
| +perlDreamer | WebGUI 8 is very tiring | 08:00 |
| @tavisto | nite nite :) | 08:01 |
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| SDuensin | FrIdAy! | 16:25 |
| +bartjol | well done, you made it! | 16:25 |
| SDuensin | It was close! | 16:26 |
| SDuensin | And a quote from Star Trek: "We're looking good so far, but we're not out yet." | 16:27 |
| +bartjol | :) | 16:29 |
| +bartjol | skyspeed is not a holiday in the USA? | 16:30 |
| SDuensin | Skyspeed? | 16:30 |
| +bartjol | mmm, I don't know the english name, the cristian celebration of jesus who goes to meet his maker | 16:31 |
| SDuensin | Nope. | 16:31 |
| +bartjol | ah "Ascension of Jesus" | 16:32 |
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| SDuensin | And here, that's messed up - we already had Easter, which is supposed to be the celebration of his resurrection. | 16:32 |
| +bartjol | Eatre, that's when hares start laying eggs right, when they became birds? | 16:33 |
| +bartjol | s/Eatre/Easter/ | 16:33 |
| SDuensin | Pretty much. It's when "The Church" decided they'd stomp on yet another Pagan holiday. :-) | 16:37 |
| +bartjol | aah, they love that like little boys | 16:42 |
| SDuensin | hehehe | 16:43 |
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| +patspam | hey bartjol | 17:25 |
| +bartjol | hey | 17:26 |
| +bartjol | what's up | 17:26 |
| +bartjol | what can I do you for? | 17:26 |
| +patspam | can you do my programming for today? | 17:27 |
| +patspam | I'd like to go sit in the sun | 17:27 |
| +bartjol | eeh, is it a problem if you get very little work done? | 17:27 |
| +patspam | and drink coffee | 17:27 |
| +bartjol | ah, it's beer o"clock already | 17:28 |
| +bartjol | so I think, I'll skip on the coffee | 17:28 |
| +bartjol | oh | 17:28 |
| +bartjol | what kind of programming? I can make you a macro that says: "Tough luck, I'm sitting in the sun and won't do any work" | 17:29 |
| +patspam | as long as it's exportable to SPSS that will be fine | 17:30 |
| +bartjol | mmm | 17:31 |
| +bartjol | I'm better at useless WebGUI macro'd | 17:31 |
| +bartjol | my hands are to big for my keyboard | 17:31 |
| +patspam | you're programming on an iphone? | 17:32 |
| +bartjol | no, a normal keyboard | 17:32 |
| +bartjol | arg, my own code bites me in the ass | 17:33 |
| +patspam | pity Ruud Van Nistelrooy didn't get asked to join the dutch world cup squad | 17:39 |
| +bartjol | oh, I haven't looked at the selection yet | 17:44 |
| +patspam | he offered to come out of international retirement for the world cup | 17:44 |
| +bartjol | and it would be a nice addition to have a real forward | 17:46 |
| +bartjol | but the selection for forwards doesn't look that bad | 17:46 |
| +patspam | no doubt better than australia's selection ;) | 17:48 |
| +bartjol | probably, and the ego of 1 dutch player is at least as big as that from the whole australian selection | 17:49 |
| +patspam | hehe | 17:50 |
| +bartjol | and who wrote that horrible i18n code for switching languages, it gives you some features, but in the end you have to change it all | 17:51 |
| +bartjol | worthless bastard that did that :) | 17:51 |
| +patspam | heh don't feel bad, that's true for everything.. just look what we're doing for wg8 | 17:53 |
| +patspam | and perl6 | 17:54 |
| +bartjol | you're rewrting perl? | 17:54 |
| +patspam | heh no, that was the collective "we" | 17:55 |
| +bartjol | ah | 17:57 |
| +bartjol | mmm, let's see whether we indeed have an extra tempvar | 18:02 |
| +bartjol | aaah, that's better | 18:20 |
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| * perlDreamer makes lunch for the kiddos | 22:01 | |
| +perlDreamer | patspam, if you're around this afternoon, I'd like to talk about the possibility of Flux-lite being added to the core, to fix a bug. | 22:01 |
| +patspam | now there's a sledge-hammer approach to bug fixing if ever I heard one ;) | 22:02 |
| +patspam | what would be in flux-lite? | 22:02 |
| +patspam | or fluxminus? | 22:03 |
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| +perlDreamer | patspam, for reference: http://www.webgui.org/use/bugs/tracker/11552 | 22:42 |
| +perlDreamer | the problem is that we cache by userId | 22:42 |
| +perlDreamer | and userId 1 isn't unique | 22:43 |
| +perlDreamer | also, Groups have transitory methods for membership | 22:43 |
| +perlDreamer | by IP address | 22:43 |
| +perlDreamer | and by scratch variable | 22:43 |
| +perlDreamer | the by database, by LDAP methods are more trustworthy | 22:43 |
| +perlDreamer | and we check for group membership by returning the set of all users for the group in questions, hierarchially | 22:44 |
| +perlDreamer | that's the right thing to do for native WebGUI groups, LDAP groups, and database groups | 22:44 |
| +perlDreamer | but for IP and Scratch groups, you just want to test to see if they meet the right criteria | 22:44 |
| +perlDreamer | I think that's where something flux like should come in | 22:44 |
| +perlDreamer | I'm thinking that a group could return an object | 22:47 |
| +perlDreamer | the object accepts a user object, and checks to see whether the object meets the criteria for inclusion in the group | 22:47 |
| +perlDreamer | by IP, by scratch, etc. | 22:48 |
| +perlDreamer | that reminded me of Flux | 22:48 |
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| +patspam | awesome bug report | 23:39 |
| +patspam | trex++ | 23:39 |
| +perlDreamer | totally | 23:39 |
| +perlDreamer | and he was very patient as I tried to shoot it down from every angle, too | 23:40 |
| +patspam | yeah | 23:40 |
| +perlDreamer | so new we fix it :) | 23:40 |
| +perlDreamer | er, now we fix it | 23:40 |
| +patspam | my first reaction is that visitor should be handled specially, and in other cases sharing user account for multiple users is bad practice | 23:41 |
| +patspam | or if we are to support that, there should be an option to control per-user caching of IP-based permissions | 23:41 |
| +perlDreamer | group lookups are expensive, they need to be as cached or as fast as possible. | 23:42 |
| +perlDreamer | I've recently heard of a site where uncached lookups for groups take 9 seconds | 23:43 |
| +patspam | yeah, so site user probably needs to accept some form of trade-off | 23:43 |
| +patspam | so by flux-lite you're saying some sort of simple generic mechanism for controlling dynamic/transient groups? | 23:44 |
| +perlDreamer | yes | 23:45 |
| +perlDreamer | but I may be miscontruing the original idea behind flux | 23:46 |
| +patspam | well, that's certainly the problem that flux tackles | 23:46 |
| +patspam | but you wouldn't try to port flux to do this, since it's only about 2% of flux | 23:46 |
| +patspam | flux was mainly targeted towards giving users the ability to define the dynamic rules via a UI | 23:47 |
| +patspam | but it would give us an interesting bridge towards flux | 23:47 |
| +perlDreamer | having the skeleton in place would be a good first step | 23:48 |
| +patspam | what does wG currently support for transient groups? | 23:48 |
| +perlDreamer | IP addresses, and scratch variables | 23:48 |
| +patspam | and in terms of caching? | 23:48 |
| +perlDreamer | there are two levels | 23:48 |
| +perlDreamer | level 1 is caching the set of members of the group | 23:48 |
| +perlDreamer | level 2 is the caching of whether a user is in the group, or not | 23:49 |
| +perlDreamer | level 1 is done in WebGUI::Cache, which is the problem | 23:49 |
| +perlDreamer | level 2 is done in Session->Stow | 23:49 |
| +perlDreamer | the level 1 cache is the complete set of userIds in the group | 23:50 |
| +perlDreamer | and since userId 1 isn't unique to a user.... | 23:50 |
| +perlDreamer | that's what gave me the idea of segregating static vs transient membership | 23:50 |
| +patspam | so Group needs to pull out the list of users from the L1 cache, and then apply the dynamic contraints to that list | 23:50 |
| +perlDreamer | exactly | 23:51 |
| +perlDreamer | well, mostly exactly | 23:51 |
| +patspam | which should be fairly cheap to do right? | 23:51 |
| +perlDreamer | what I'm proposing is that we no longer return a set of userIds from groups defined by transient methods | 23:51 |
| +perlDreamer | instead, we should get a set of userIds of people who belong to the group | 23:51 |
| +perlDreamer | and an object which will tell you if a user is allowed in the group | 23:52 |
| +perlDreamer | static vs transient | 23:52 |
| +patspam | object as in a filter function? | 23:52 |
| +perlDreamer | yes | 23:52 |
| +patspam | does the caller need to be able to see the filtered and unfiltered sets? | 23:52 |
| +perlDreamer | not from the context of $user->isInGroup | 23:53 |
| +perlDreamer | the filter function could be cached as well | 23:53 |
| +perlDreamer | so it only has to be generated periodically | 23:53 |
| +perlDreamer | that would be fast | 23:53 |
| +perlDreamer | except we don't seem to be able to freeze code references right now | 23:54 |
| +patspam | I don't understand why you need the filter function | 23:54 |
| +perlDreamer | so imagine we have a group of 10 groups with various hierarchy | 23:54 |
| +perlDreamer | we want to see if a member is in any group | 23:54 |
| +perlDreamer | we get a set of users from the group, where users are defined as coming from WebGUI groups natively, from LDAP, and from external databases | 23:55 |
| +perlDreamer | the user fails those checks | 23:55 |
| +perlDreamer | now we need to check IP addresses, and scratch variables | 23:55 |
| +perlDreamer | these users no longer get returned in the set of members | 23:55 |
| +perlDreamer | so they have to be checked in a boolean fashion, per group, per user | 23:56 |
| +perlDreamer | that's where the filter function comes in | 23:56 |
| +perlDreamer | the group returns it, and it contains a serialized set of checks like | 23:57 |
| +perlDreamer | return 1 if WebGUI::Utility::isInSubnet($group1->getIp, $user->session->lastIp); | 23:57 |
| +perlDreamer | return 1 if $user->session->scratch->get($group2->getScratchVar); | 23:58 |
| +perlDreamer | ... | 23:58 |
| +perlDreamer | ... | 23:58 |
| +perlDreamer | ... | 23:58 |
| +perlDreamer | return 0 | 23:58 |
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| +perlDreamer | the function would be built up as you walk through the groups to get the set of members | 00:00 |
| +perlDreamer | and would need a user object when it's done | 00:00 |
| +patspam | this is for a call to: $user->isInGroup($group_containing_10_other_groups) ? | 00:01 |
| +perlDreamer | yes | 00:01 |
| +patspam | each transient check is relevant to the specific group | 00:02 |
| +perlDreamer | yes | 00:03 |
| +perlDreamer | and could be empty/blank/null | 00:03 |
| +perlDreamer | if the group doesn't define membership via those methods | 00:03 |
| +patspam | yeah ok, I see it now | 00:04 |
| +patspam | seems we just need to cache the per-group transient checks | 00:04 |
| +patspam | then as you recurse through each group or sub-group, you pull the list of users and transient checks out of the cache, and apply the test | 00:05 |
| +perlDreamer | yeah | 00:06 |
| +perlDreamer | except that the cache doesn't let us store code references | 00:06 |
| +patspam | you could just cache the check info the same way it's stored in the db | 00:06 |
| +patspam | doesn't need to be a generic system, since the semantics about what the checks mean is already embedded in Group.pm | 00:07 |
| +perlDreamer | sure, and then deserialize and regenerate the code dynamically | 00:07 |
| +perlDreamer | yes, but if it's generic, it's extensible | 00:07 |
| +patspam | yeah, if you were making it flux you'd want it generic | 00:07 |
| +patspam | but all you're doing here is just moving the logic around a bit | 00:07 |
| +patspam | I think you'd want a bigger payoff than just this to cover the cost of serialising generic checks | 00:09 |
| +perlDreamer | I have a secret in my backpocket | 00:09 |
| +perlDreamer | someone has come up with a way to speed up the static membership checks by 14X | 00:09 |
| +patspam | noice! | 00:10 |
| +perlDreamer | and I think it can be leveraged to get the list of groups that have dynamic checks | 00:10 |
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| +perlDreamer | so it's a really big win speedwise | 00:10 |
| +perlDreamer | but, for now, IP and Scratch is just a good way to let anyone into your site's content | 00:10 |
| +patspam | sweet | 00:11 |
| +patspam | I think the non-generic approach is the correct first step to fixing IP/Scratch behaviour | 00:11 |
| +patspam | and then turning that into generic support for dynamic group checks is the logic next step | 00:11 |
| +patspam | and then once we have support for generic tests we could seriously think about adding user-driven rules | 00:12 |
| +perlDreamer | makes sense to me | 00:13 |
| +patspam | the only caching support flux currently has is "sticky" rules | 00:13 |
| +patspam | for linear progression through a site | 00:13 |
| +patspam | e.g. once you pass a rule, we never check again | 00:13 |
| +perlDreamer | how is the caching done? | 00:14 |
| +perlDreamer | in the session, in the session object, or in the WebGUI cache? | 00:14 |
| +patspam | caching as in, we don't process the flux logic for you anymore | 00:14 |
| +patspam | because I had complex, nested flux rules | 00:14 |
| +patspam | it's not really caching | 00:14 |
| +perlDreamer | any flux logic, or the currently valid set? | 00:14 |
| +patspam | the flux rule being evaluated | 00:15 |
| +patspam | for example, I might set view permissions on a page to be controlled by a flux rule that is dependent on 10 other rules | 00:15 |
| +patspam | I keep running all 10 checks until you pass, and then I just record in the database that you've made it | 00:15 |
| +perlDreamer | and how do you tell who I am? | 00:16 |
| +patspam | it hooks in at the $user->canView level | 00:16 |
| +patspam | content manager can choose flux rules instead of groups from the wG Security tab | 00:17 |
| +perlDreamer | right, but is it by userId, or sessionId? | 00:17 |
| +patspam | user | 00:17 |
| +perlDreamer | so it has exactly the same problem as the dynamic groups do now | 00:18 |
| +perlDreamer | once some Visitor has validated, they all validate? | 00:18 |
| +patspam | yeah, it just never applied to my sites because flux checks were for registered users only | 00:18 |
| +perlDreamer | that's a great idea | 00:18 |
| +patspam | and I hadn't done any IP-based stuff | 00:19 |
| +patspam | it was mostly time, group and Survey based | 00:19 |
| +perlDreamer | but groups have IP based memberships | 00:19 |
| +patspam | e.g. is in group X, and completed Survey Y at least 2 weeks ago | 00:19 |
| +perlDreamer | well, can have | 00:19 |
| +patspam | yeah, you're absolutely right | 00:19 |
| +perlDreamer | but still, if it's limited to registered users, you're safe | 00:19 |
| +perlDreamer | it's only the potential for abuse | 00:19 |
| +perlDreamer | Frank just came up with another fix | 00:20 |
| +perlDreamer | that's to add sessionId to the equation | 00:20 |
| +perlDreamer | userId and sessionId together are unique | 00:20 |
| +patspam | yeah that solves IP checks | 00:20 |
| +patspam | wouldn't be enough for generic checks though right? | 00:21 |
| +patspam | like if we had time-based ones | 00:21 |
| +perlDreamer | no, that would require a wholly different, new subsystem | 00:21 |
| +patspam | you need the dynamic checks done on every lookup (unless you have Flux-inspired sticky checks) | 00:21 |
| +patspam | (for a generic system) | 00:22 |
| +perlDreamer | yes, which means that the dynamic checks need to be fast | 00:23 |
| +perlDreamer | or, you have to accept the speed penalty for using them | 00:23 |
| +perlDreamer | it's a fairly low usage scenario | 00:23 |
| +patspam | yeah, I think once we get to that level we'd want to have a second level of customisable caching control at the dynamic checking level | 00:26 |
| +patspam | wow, three "level"s in that last sentence | 00:26 |
| +patspam | I need to go for a ride =p | 00:27 |
| +perlDreamer | I need to scoot and take the boys back to the orthodontist | 00:36 |
| @khenn | what sort of groups do you require patspam =p | 00:39 |
| @khenn | btw, I believe I have sped up group caching by 1000% | 00:39 |
| @khenn | still testing | 00:39 |
| @khenn | new bugs came in that need solving before I can continue | 00:39 |
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| @khenn | IT'S ALIVE!!!! | 21:37 |
| Haarg | are you sure it isn't undead? | 22:05 |
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| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie WebGUI8 * r4056d70 / t/Asset/Wobject/Calendar.t : Drop tests for putting an Article below a calendar. This is now permitted. - http://bit.ly/9bmG6b | 06:31 |
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| +perlDreamer | Haarg, why does the new Session/Url code remove sequences of consecutive dashes? | 06:49 |
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| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r0e7ce2c / t/Asset/Asset.t : Update Asset/Asset.t for new fixUrl code. - http://bit.ly/cQGLnZ | 06:56 |
| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r0a05907 / t/Asset/Wobject/StoryArchive.t : This test fails randomly, on the difference between 0 and undef. Update it to use bool(). - http://bit.ly/btUlYg | 06:56 |
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| Haarg | perlDreamer, mainly so if you have something like a title like "This - thing" it gets converted to this-thing instead of this---thing | 07:52 |
| +perlDreamer | but if someone foolishly typed in ------ as a URL, we'd truncate it | 07:53 |
| +perlDreamer | even though it's legal | 07:53 |
| Haarg | yes | 07:53 |
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| Haarg | it could probably be adjusted to only collapse dashes around other things it is replacing | 07:54 |
| Haarg | $url =~ s{-?[^\w/:._-]+-?}{-}g; | 07:54 |
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| Haarg | instead of the main replace line, and removing the later -- line | 07:55 |
| +perlDreamer | it's probably not a big deal | 07:56 |
| +perlDreamer | I had used dashes in a URL for a test, and was confused as to why they were being stripped out all of a sudden | 07:57 |
| +perlDreamer | but we should at least add in a gotcha | 07:57 |
| Haarg | actually that regex i pasted wouldn't work quite right | 07:58 |
| Haarg | would need to be s{-?(?:[^\w/:._-]+-?)+}{-}g i think | 07:59 |
| +perlDreamer | I fixed my failing tests to use underscores so they'd work | 07:59 |
| +perlDreamer | then added a failing test for ----- | 07:59 |
| Haarg | multiple dashes in urls are unlikely to be useful though so a gotcha may be the way to go | 08:00 |
| +perlDreamer | yeah, you're right | 08:00 |
| +perlDreamer | I'll pull the failing test, and add the gotcha | 08:03 |
| +perlDreamer | tomorrow | 08:04 |
| Haarg | if you take care of that, i'll take care of adding some more testing in for the new code | 08:11 |
| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * rd2b6a7f / (5 files in 4 dirs): Fix a bug in how groups using IP filters cache the user Visitor. Also, significant speedups in group lookups. Fixes bug #11552. - http://bit.ly/ampg2L | 08:12 |
| +perlDreamer | all done, Haarg | 08:16 |
| +perlDreamer | take it away | 08:16 |
| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r2318327 / (docs/gotcha.txt t/Asset/Asset.t): Document change in handling sequences of dashes. - http://bit.ly/djnJTN | 08:16 |
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| CIA-104 | webgui: Graham Knop upgrades * r1d8adf8 / (7 files in 5 dirs): all features implemented and basic upgrades working - http://bit.ly/dusUm5 | 12:57 |
| CIA-104 | webgui: Graham Knop master * r3ee2121 / t/Session/Url.t : test more url forms including international characters - http://bit.ly/ayLjKH | 13:26 |
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| +bartjol | perlDreamer: my wuc visit is a bit more certain now | 17:50 |
| +perlDreamer | awesome! | 17:51 |
| +bartjol | yeah | 17:51 |
| +bartjol | but I'll wait with extreme euforic behaviour until the ticket is booked | 17:52 |
| +perlDreamer | euphoric, even :) | 17:53 |
| +bartjol | well, I'm a dutchy, I'm allowed to make errors | 17:54 |
| +bartjol | in english | 17:54 |
| CIA-104 | webgui: khenn master * rd99e4cc / docs/upgrades/upgrade_7.9.4-7.9.5.pl : put checks in before alter groupGroupings table - http://bit.ly/c672gJ | 18:00 |
| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.8 * rc3ba08b / (5 files in 4 dirs): Fix a bug in how groups using IP filters cache the user Visitor. Also, significant speedups in group lookups. Fixes bug #11552. - http://bit.ly/a1iPGf | 18:00 |
| +perlDreamer | dude, in english, "dutchy" means a large piece of ground owned by a duke or duchess | 18:01 |
| +bartjol | perlDreamer: you sneaky boy, I found your easteregg: Winkelwagensamenvattingssjabloon variabelen | 18:01 |
| +bartjol | Allows user to choose a payment method. Bart Jol for Minister in 2012! | 18:02 |
| +bartjol | that one | 18:02 |
| +bartjol | copy-pasting isn't easy | 18:02 |
| +perlDreamer | huh, I figured no one read the context variables :) | 18:02 |
| +bartjol | except some people | 18:03 |
| +bartjol | I am late though | 18:03 |
| CIA-104 | WebGUI: translation * r12497 /translations/Dutch/Dutch/ (5 files): Updating Dutch on translation server | 18:09 |
| CIA-104 | WebGUI: translation * r12498 /translations/Dutch/Dutch/Shop.pm: Updating Dutch on translation server | 18:09 |
| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.8 * r2412a8d / docs/upgrades/upgrade_7.8.19-7.8.20.pl : put checks in before alter groupGroupings table - http://bit.ly/cWAA8t | 18:10 |
| +bartjol | aah, translation done again | 18:15 |
| +bartjol | ah, how is the "dutch dude" version of dutchy spelled then? | 18:17 |
| +perlDreamer | dutchie? | 18:17 |
| +perlDreamer | Dutch bro | 18:17 |
| +bartjol | ok | 18:18 |
| +bartjol | mmm, imagine, I make a small addition (an isCurrent tmpl_var) to the infamous PickLanguage macro and write tests for it, is that also an RFE? | 18:23 |
| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r414e603 / (docs/changelog/7.x.x.txt lib/WebGUI/Operation/Profile.pm): Do not allow any backdoors for Visitor to get into his account. Fixes bug #11572. - http://bit.ly/aqI93b | 18:27 |
| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.8 * r0767ba3 / (docs/changelog/7.x.x.txt lib/WebGUI/Operation/Profile.pm): Do not allow any backdoors for Visitor to get into his account. Fixes bug #11572. - http://bit.ly/bGoEtt | 18:28 |
| +perlDreamer | bartjol, it depends | 18:28 |
| +perlDreamer | is it to make it work better? | 18:28 |
| +perlDreamer | why do you want it? | 18:28 |
| +perlDreamer | in the end, it's really only a question about whether it goes into beta, or beta and stable | 18:28 |
| +bartjol | well, it sucks that all languages are shown, regardless whether they are current or not | 18:29 |
| +perlDreamer | that's a bug then | 18:29 |
| +bartjol | it isn't really a bug | 18:29 |
| +perlDreamer | the user has no way of knowing what they are currently using | 18:29 |
| +bartjol | no | 18:29 |
| +bartjol | in that line of though a <tmpl_var currentLanguage> might be a possibilty, allthough it can be created with an "if" function | 18:31 |
| +bartjol | joy, more testing | 18:31 |
| CIA-104 | WebGUI: translation * r12499 /translations/Dutch/Dutch/Shop.pm: Updating Dutch on translation server | 18:31 |
| +bartjol | prolly should add a bug report | 18:31 |
| +perlDreamer | if you want to fix it as a bug, yes | 18:33 |
| +bartjol | the assign http://www.webgui.org/use/bugs/tracker/11573 to me | 18:34 |
| +perlDreamer | so assigned | 18:35 |
| +bartjol | I fixed it friday, "only" have to write tests | 18:38 |
| +bartjol | oh, and documentation | 18:38 |
| +perlDreamer | docs are 5 minutes | 18:41 |
| +perlDreamer | and to add tests to your current tests shouldn't take that long | 18:41 |
| +bartjol | no | 18:43 |
| +bartjol | it isn't that bad | 18:43 |
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| * perlDreamer takes the dog to the vet, bbiaw | 18:53 | |
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| @scrottie | It's 10am, May 17. I've had my coffee and unclogged my mechanical pencil. I know where the keycaps on my keyboard are. | 19:58 |
| @scrottie | (Some of these facts are subjective or debatable.) | 19:58 |
| +perlDreamer | that's that I thought! | 20:17 |
| +perlDreamer | You don't HAVE a keycaps, do you!?? | 20:17 |
| @scrottie | How do I check? =( | 20:18 |
| * scrottie looks under the keyboard | 20:18 | |
| +perlDreamer | I have a keycaps button, but it doesn't work | 20:30 |
| +perlDreamer | whenever I hit it, the next key I hit is a control character | 20:30 |
| @scrottie | control-alt-shift-function-meta? | 20:31 |
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| +perlDreamer | hey, kimd! | 21:01 |
| kimd | Hi, perlDreamer! How's it going? | 21:01 |
| +perlDreamer | much better this week than last | 21:01 |
| +perlDreamer | last week I was experiencing I/O buffering issues | 21:02 |
| kimd | You personally? What would that translate into? | 21:02 |
| * scrottie suggests Metamusil. | 21:02 | |
| @scrottie | ack, bad scrottie. bad. | 21:02 |
| +perlDreamer | kimd, that would be diarrhea | 21:03 |
| kimd | I was looking for that word. | 21:03 |
| kimd | I don't want the details. | 21:03 |
| kimd | But I am glad you are back at work :-) | 21:03 |
| +perlDreamer | me, too :) | 21:03 |
| +perlDreamer | are you interested in taking on a potentially easy gallery RFE? | 21:04 |
| kimd | Work is a good keyword. I am having a 'best practice' question here. | 21:04 |
| kimd | Maybe. Shoot! | 21:04 |
| +perlDreamer | http://www.webgui.org/rfe/request-for-enhancement/11569 | 21:05 |
| +perlDreamer | adding comments to the Gallery asset itself | 21:05 |
| +perlDreamer | since Comments is an AssetAspect, it should, in theory, be very easy to do | 21:06 |
| kimd | You mean not the photos nor albums but the top level gallery asset? | 21:06 |
| kimd | The RFE has not been improved yet. | 21:07 |
| kimd | approved, I mean. | 21:07 |
| +perlDreamer | good point. | 21:07 |
| +perlDreamer | if it's approved, is that something that you'd be interested in taking on? | 21:08 |
| kimd | But Frank is JT's right hand, isn't he? | 21:08 |
| +perlDreamer | yes | 21:08 |
| kimd | Well, I can do. I was having different plans. But why not change priorities? | 21:08 |
| kimd | Is it urgent? | 21:08 |
| +perlDreamer | No | 21:08 |
| +perlDreamer | I think it would be a cool feature, so I thought to bring it up to the new resident Gallery hacker | 21:08 |
| kimd | Good. So let me finish the RFE I am working on at the moment and do #11569 next. | 21:08 |
| +perlDreamer | what is your best practice question? | 21:09 |
| kimd | I need to convert a date string from exif data. It's similar to ISO dates but different. | 21:09 |
| kimd | Let me get an example. | 21:09 |
| kimd | That is what the date strings look like: 2010:05:16 22:01:46+02:00 | 21:11 |
| kimd | In principle, I could replace colons in the date string and use WebGUI::DateTime for conversion. | 21:11 |
| kimd | At least that seems a viable option to me. | 21:11 |
| kimd | Would that be ok= | 21:11 |
| kimd | ? | 21:11 |
| +perlDreamer | is there an EXIF date parsing module on CPAN? | 21:11 |
| kimd | I will check. One moment, please... | 21:12 |
| kimd | pearlDreamer, you are a genius!!! | 21:13 |
| kimd | I have to say it once again. | 21:13 |
| +perlDreamer | well, I wasn't sure | 21:14 |
| kimd | How do I get CPAN modules into a WebGUI release? | 21:14 |
| +perlDreamer | and we do try to avoid adding in tons of modules for special purpose stuff | 21:14 |
| +perlDreamer | for a new module, you add it to testEnvironment.pl | 21:14 |
| +perlDreamer | and add a note in the gotchas | 21:14 |
| kimd | Well, but it's better than hacking the core, isn't it? | 21:14 |
| +perlDreamer | in this case, yes | 21:14 |
| kimd | Ok. I will that. Thanks a lot. | 21:15 |
| kimd | will do that. | 21:15 |
| +perlDreamer | because of things like this: 2009J04U04N09K49A08B | 21:15 |
| +perlDreamer | according to his test suite, that's valid EXIF date | 21:15 |
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| Haarg | it seems like Image::ExifTool should be able to parse the same formats | 21:23 |
| kimd | Haarg, Image::ExifTool produces the type of date strings I have given above. | 21:23 |
| kimd | At least that is all I have been able to produce at the moment. | 21:24 |
| kimd | However, what I need is an epoch timestamp. | 21:24 |
| Haarg | well, there is a sub ConvertDateTime in the code that looks like it would do what is needed | 21:26 |
| +perlDreamer | it's not documented anywhere | 21:26 |
| Haarg | but it isn't documented and the Image::ExifTool code is too horrible for me to see how you would use it | 21:26 |
| kimd | Hm. I would prefer to use that extra module from CPAN. Still ok? | 21:27 |
| Haarg | what is the actual tag you are trying to convert? | 21:29 |
| @scrottie | hi again Haarg | 21:29 |
| Haarg | hello | 21:29 |
| @scrottie | sorry I missed you last time you were on. I answered you just as you left. | 21:29 |
| kimd | time stamps returned by ExifTool have the following format: "2010:05:16 22:01:46+02:00" | 21:29 |
| @scrottie | Haarg, for what it's worth, today is my start date. I don't know what else to say about who I am but I'm happy to answer questions. I'm SWALTERS on CPAN. | 21:30 |
| Haarg | yeah, doug told me :) | 21:31 |
| @scrottie | I'm going to go offline for a bit here but should be back and on Skype within 45 minutes. | 21:34 |
| kimd | Haarg? | 21:34 |
| Haarg | ? | 21:34 |
| kimd | May I use the date parsing module from CPAN? | 21:36 |
| Haarg | seems ok to me. i'm just trying to figure out wtf the exiftool code is doing | 21:36 |
| kimd | Or do you want me to stick with Image::ExifTool exclusively? | 21:36 |
| Haarg | one thing you might try though is setting $exifTool->Options('DateFormat', 'strftime string here'); | 21:38 |
| Haarg | before retrieving the date, and see if that effects what it gives you | 21:38 |
| kimd | What is ''strftime string here'? | 21:39 |
| Haarg | a strftime formatting string. %s would give you the epoch time if you wanted that. | 21:39 |
| +perlDreamer | kimd: man strftime | 21:40 |
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| +perlDreamer | strftime == STRing Formatted TIME | 21:40 |
| kimd | Not there on my machine. I will google it. Thanks. | 21:41 |
| kimd | I am having another problem here. Module CHI does not install from CPAN. Is there a wre upgrade required? | 21:44 |
| Haarg | no | 21:44 |
| kimd | I end up with compilation errors. | 21:44 |
| Haarg | can you pastebin them? | 21:44 |
| kimd | Yes. One moment. | 21:45 |
| Haarg | WebGUI will work fine without CHI though | 21:45 |
| kimd | Haarg, check http://webgui.pastebin.com/kBWRE4LF | 21:47 |
| +perlDreamer | you need to manually install Test::Log::Dispatch | 21:47 |
| +perlDreamer | and any of it's requirements that also happen to fail | 21:48 |
| kimd | Ok. Why is that not included in testEnvironment.pl? | 21:48 |
| +perlDreamer | It's one of CHI's requirements | 21:49 |
| Haarg | it shouldn't need to be | 21:49 |
| Haarg | https://rt.cpan.org/Public/Bug/Display.html?id=57091 | 21:49 |
| kimd | "cpan Test::Log::Dispatch" fails as well | 21:49 |
| +perlDreamer | it fails due to needing Test::Builder? | 21:50 |
| +perlDreamer | Haarg, that guy's response is out of line | 21:50 |
| +perlDreamer | I had the same install problem installing on Ubuntu, so it's not just the WRe | 21:50 |
| kimd | It says "Can't locate Test/Tester.pm..." | 21:50 |
| +perlDreamer | cpan Test::Tester | 21:51 |
| Haarg | well, he did test it | 21:51 |
| Haarg | and i don't really know why it is failing | 21:51 |
| kimd | Now it's ok. | 21:51 |
| kimd | And CHI can be installed as well. | 21:52 |
| kimd | So there is Test::Tester missing as a dependency. | 21:52 |
| kimd | Bug report? | 21:52 |
| +perlDreamer | I would append to the existing one Haarg pasted | 21:52 |
| Haarg | it isn't our bug | 21:52 |
| kimd | Still we could add to testEnvironment.pl temporarily? | 21:53 |
| kimd | I mean, does it hurt? | 21:53 |
| Haarg | kimd, can you check your ExtUtils::MakeMaker version? | 21:54 |
| kimd | Sure. If you tell me how to do that. | 21:55 |
| Haarg | perl -MExtUtils::MakeMaker -le"print ExtUtils::MakeMaker->VERSION" | 21:55 |
| kimd | 6.48 | 21:56 |
| kimd | Haarg: "$exifTool->Options('DateFormat', '%s');" is doing exactly what I need. | 22:05 |
| kimd | I will go with tha. | 22:05 |
| kimd | that. | 22:05 |
| Haarg | perlDreamer, if you have some time at some point, i could use some feedback on my upgrades code | 22:08 |
| +perlDreamer | sure | 22:08 |
| +perlDreamer | I'm just beating me head against the SC asset | 22:08 |
| Haarg | http://github.com/haarg/webgui/tree/upgrades | 22:08 |
| Haarg | it needs better documentation | 22:09 |
| Haarg | the basic idea is, WebGUI::Upgrade runs the upgrades. it looks in var/upgrades/ for directories like 7.9.3-8.0.0 to find a path between the current and code version | 22:10 |
| Haarg | and uses the WebGUI::Upgrade::File::* modules to run each file in the dir based on its extension | 22:10 |
| Haarg | WebGUI::Upgrade::Script has all the magic to make the perl upgrade scripts simple | 22:10 |
| +perlDreamer | do we need another exception handler in the core? | 22:12 |
| Haarg | what are you referring to? | 22:12 |
| +perlDreamer | Try::Tiny | 22:12 |
| Haarg | it's already a prereq via Moose | 22:12 |
| Haarg | and it isn't a replacement for Exception::Class | 22:13 |
| Haarg | it's a replacement for eval | 22:13 |
| Haarg | it can (and should) be used in conjunction with Exception::Class | 22:13 |
| +perlDreamer | inside the catch block? | 22:14 |
| Haarg | yes | 22:15 |
| Haarg | there are a number of problems with "eval { blah } or do { print 'error!' }" and "eval { blah }; if ($@) { print 'error!' }" and it works around them | 22:15 |
| +perlDreamer | even though it's a prereq for Moose, we should probably call it out directly in testEnvinroment.pl | 22:17 |
| Haarg | yeah, certainly | 22:17 |
| Haarg | there are some other prereqs i need to add as well | 22:17 |
| +perlDreamer | I see why you wanted the site object now | 22:20 |
| Haarg | WebGUI::Upgrade::Script is probably a little too magic right now but it will take some thought to come up with a better way to do things. | 22:22 |
| kimd | Hey, the 7.9 style selector really rocks! | 22:27 |
| kimd | Just used it the first time and I really like it. | 22:27 |
| +perlDreamer | preaction++ | 22:29 |
| kimd | Let me add one more: preaction+++ | 22:29 |
| Haarg | i should try that out at some point. i still need to install apache/mod_perl. | 22:31 |
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| ckotil | the wiki sure does create a lot of version tags in 7.6.35 | 22:48 |
| ckotil | does that change at all in 7.7+ ? | 22:48 |
| +perlDreamer | ckotil, it's just like the CS | 22:48 |
| +perlDreamer | one tag per post, per edit | 22:48 |
| ckotil | ok | 22:48 |
| ckotil | im preppin to upgrade to 7.7.33-stable. removing orphan'd version tags and removing rows from assetData without a tagId in assetVersionTag. | 22:50 |
| ckotil | other wise the upgrade script fails | 22:50 |
| Haarg | perlDreamer, thoughts on http://gist.github.com/404151 ? allows you to do try { stuff; } catch { when ('WebGUI::Error::Database') { print "database error!" } } | 22:50 |
| +perlDreamer | overload ~~ will let you do that? | 22:51 |
| Haarg | yeah | 22:51 |
| +perlDreamer | how does it work? | 22:53 |
| Haarg | when does a smart match against $_ | 22:53 |
| Haarg | so we override smart match to be an isa check for exception objects | 22:53 |
| Haarg | so that $error ~~ 'WebGUI::Error' is equivalent to $error->isa('WebGUI::Error') | 22:54 |
| Haarg | which is really all that WebGUI::Error->caught is doing | 22:54 |
| Haarg | it's just makes catching errors a little friendlier | 22:55 |
| Haarg | instead of having catch { if ($_->isa('WebGUI::Error::Database')) { blah; } } | 22:56 |
| +perlDreamer | I'm obviously not perl 5.10 compliant | 22:56 |
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| Haarg | http://perldoc.perl.org/perlsyn.html#Smart-matching-in-detail | 22:56 |
| Haarg | for objects though the only way a smart match will pass is if the object has it overloaded | 22:57 |
| @scrottie | what's the basis of WebGUI::Error? Error.pm has unfixable memory leaks. | 22:59 |
| Haarg | Exception::Class | 22:59 |
| Haarg | the names are a little wonky | 22:59 |
| @scrottie | not familiar with it... | 22:59 |
| Haarg | you use WebGUI::Exception but all the exception classes are in WebGUI::Error | 23:00 |
| Haarg | as far as i know there aren't any major problems with it | 23:00 |
| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.8 * rb5d5892 / lib/WebGUI/HTML.pm : Add a blank line for appearances. - http://bit.ly/bOnb4u | 23:10 |
| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.8 * rbf85930 / (3 files in 3 dirs): Better handling for paragraphs in the SC. This code needs to be refactored out and generalized into a method that anything can use. Fixes bug #11563. - http://bit.ly/doxU9Z | 23:13 |
| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r3ae3684 / (3 files in 3 dirs): Better handling for paragraphs in the SC. This code needs to be refactored out and generalized into a method that anything can use. Fixes bug #11563. - http://bit.ly/bW6LdP | 23:15 |
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| +perlDreamer | Haarg: where do the environment variables get set in WebGUI::Upgrade | 23:32 |
| Haarg | WebGUI::Upgrade::File::pl | 23:32 |
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| Haarg | WebGUI::Upgrade::Script needs POD to explain how to use it and comments to explain what it is doing | 23:33 |
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| @scrottie | hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm. | 23:34 |
| kimd | Good night, everyone! Happy hacking... | 23:37 |
| scrottie1 | night kimd | 23:37 |
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| Haarg | perlDreamer, did you have any other thoughts on the upgrade stuff? the main issues i have with it right now is that it isn't obvious why WebGUI::Upgrade::Script is laid out how it is, and the actual trigger for the cleanup code is extremely non-obvious. | 00:23 |
| +perlDreamer | Haarg, it's magic enough that I had a hard time following it | 00:25 |
| Haarg | the trigger for the cleanup is actually when the imported sub gets deleted, which happens with the anonymous class goes out of scope. | 00:26 |
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| +MrHairgrease | howdy! | 00:32 |
| scrottie1 | hiya MrHairgrease | 00:33 |
| +MrHairgrease | It used to be possible to upload images from within the richtext editor right? | 00:33 |
| +MrHairgrease | I cannot find the upload thingy anymore however.... =( | 00:33 |
| +MrHairgrease | any idea as to where it has gone | 00:34 |
| Haarg | possibly not enabled on that rich editor? | 00:34 |
| +MrHairgrease | how do I enable it? | 00:35 |
| +MrHairgrease | I looked already but couldn't find the right option | 00:35 |
| +MrHairgrease | sorry for the n00bism =) | 00:35 |
| +MrHairgrease | I thought it was WebGUI Image, which looks like the screen, but doesn't have a upload box | 00:37 |
| Haarg | that should be the one | 00:37 |
| +MrHairgrease | then I must be going insane... | 00:38 |
| Haarg | you have to go to the media folder first though | 00:38 |
| +perlDreamer | Yup | 00:38 |
| +MrHairgrease | ohhh | 00:38 |
| +MrHairgrease | right | 00:38 |
| +MrHairgrease | didn't | 00:38 |
| +MrHairgrease | know that | 00:38 |
| +perlDreamer | How much time did you spend in the bunny suit today, MrHairgrease? | 00:38 |
| +MrHairgrease | about four hours I think =) | 00:39 |
| +perlDreamer | oh yeah, way too long | 00:39 |
| +MrHairgrease | check! | 00:39 |
| +MrHairgrease | found it | 00:39 |
| +MrHairgrease | thanks | 00:40 |
| +MrHairgrease | maybe the insert webgui image should default to the media folder? | 00:40 |
| +MrHairgrease | would that make sense? | 00:40 |
| +perlDreamer | I don't think so | 00:40 |
| +MrHairgrease | ok | 00:41 |
| +MrHairgrease | it 23:45 over here so I'm not gonna argue | 00:41 |
| +MrHairgrease | and have some wine instead | 00:41 |
| +MrHairgrease | =) | 00:41 |
| +MrHairgrease | thanks and see you guys later! | 00:41 |
| +perlDreamer | later, d00d | 00:41 |
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| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r7afb41f / (docs/changelog/7.x.x.txt lib/WebGUI/Account/Inbox.pm): Allow whitespace formatting in user invitations. Preserve text messages with newlines. Fixes bug #11538 - http://bit.ly/a8Eh9a | 02:14 |
| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.8 * r8da151e / (docs/changelog/7.x.x.txt lib/WebGUI/Account/Inbox.pm): Allow whitespace formatting in user invitations. Preserve text messages with newlines. Fixes bug #11538 - http://bit.ly/9ml1Ko | 02:15 |
| +perlDreamer | frodwith, if I ask you if you want feedback about the new UI for the helpdesk, run screaming | 02:15 |
| @frodwith | aroo? | 02:16 |
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| SDuensin | Greetings, program! | 16:52 |
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| +bartjol | program, who's that | 16:54 |
| * SDuensin sighs | 16:56 | |
| * SDuensin hands bartjol a copy of TRON. | 16:56 | |
| +bartjol | do I accept? | 16:57 |
| SDuensin | Tell me you've seen TRON! | 16:59 |
| +bartjol | ok, I've seen TRON | 17:00 |
| SDuensin | Whew. | 17:00 |
| SDuensin | Was starting to be worried about you. :-) | 17:01 |
| +bartjol | but I want to see it again, can I have that copy | 17:01 |
| +bartjol | ? | 17:01 |
| SDuensin | Uh. It's 4.5 gig. | 17:01 |
| * SDuensin keeps entire DVDs on his server. | 17:01 | |
| +bartjol | oh, mail it then, that's what e-mail is for :) | 17:02 |
| SDuensin | hehehe | 17:02 |
| +bartjol | at least, some client seem to think that way | 17:02 |
| SDuensin | Email is "magic". People don't get it. | 17:06 |
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| +bartjol | I like the people that complain when using an old box on a new computer for the first time and start complaining that their new computer is "slow" | 17:16 |
| SDuensin | Arrgh. I'm gonna smack PayPal in the head. Why won't they give me the eCheck option?! | 17:18 |
| +bartjol | to annoy you (and you specific) | 17:22 |
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| * SDuensin had to use an old-fashioned paper check. | 17:27 | |
| +bartjol | whoa, and then the receiver prolly doesn't understand it | 17:29 |
| SDuensin | I warned them. :-) | 17:29 |
| SDuensin | All this check nonsense is because the vendor is cool - since there are no credit card fees involved, they actually pass that savings on to me. $55 is worth using a check! | 17:30 |
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| ckotil | ls | 17:56 |
| ckotil | oops | 17:56 |
| +bartjol | :) | 18:07 |
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| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r9cf2a30 / (docs/changelog/7.x.x.txt lib/WebGUI/Asset/Shortcut.pm): Make the shortcut obey the modified permissions of its originating Asset. Fixes bug #11549. - http://bit.ly/bF6K5j | 18:46 |
| +perlDreamer | ckotil, that's your Shortcut fix | 18:53 |
| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.8 * r1236eea / (docs/changelog/7.x.x.txt lib/WebGUI/Asset/Shortcut.pm): Make the shortcut obey the modified permissions of its originating Asset. Fixes bug #11549. - http://bit.ly/aYWYPj | 18:53 |
| +perlDreamer | technically, the Group To View is redundant, since you can also use the Shortcut permissions to achieve the same thing | 18:54 |
| +perlDreamer | but it should work anyway | 18:54 |
| @preaction | but i thought a feature of shortcuts would be to allow the shortcut to be seen but not the actual content | 18:55 |
| +perlDreamer | yes, but it wasn't working correctly | 18:56 |
| +perlDreamer | the overridden Asset's permissions were not being considered for displaying it inside the Shortcut | 18:56 |
| +perlDreamer | it was a pretty simple fix, just adding canView checks | 18:57 |
| @preaction | i meant the shortcut can display the content, but the user can't view the non-shortcutted asset | 18:58 |
| +perlDreamer | that wouldn't work either | 18:58 |
| +perlDreamer | until this bugfix | 18:58 |
| +perlDreamer | well, it would work | 18:58 |
| +perlDreamer | and will continue to work | 18:58 |
| +perlDreamer | but you have to override the original Asset | 18:58 |
| +perlDreamer | instead of now, where the Group to View for the original Asset was ignored, completely | 18:59 |
| @preaction | okay, nevermind. i wasn't thinking right. $shortcut is the original asset + overrides, i get it now | 18:59 |
| dionak | perlDreamer, thanks for your work on the syndicated asset bug! | 19:08 |
| +perlDreamer | you're welcome :) | 19:08 |
| carogray | -hi all. | 19:08 |
| dionak | hey, carogray | 19:08 |
| +perlDreamer | Please tell serif that I didn't mean to step on any toes by fixing the bug before she could come up with a test case. | 19:08 |
| carogray | hi dionak: | 19:09 |
| dionak | she doesn't mind at all. ;) | 19:09 |
| dionak | but do we still need a test? | 19:09 |
| carogray | is there a quick and easy (haha) way to create one of those boxes that pops up when you leave a website? | 19:09 |
| dionak | or is that overkill? | 19:09 |
| +perlDreamer | I did write a test for that feature | 19:09 |
| dionak | oh, cool. thanks. | 19:09 |
| +perlDreamer | she's always free to write more, if she wishes | 19:09 |
| dionak | carogrey, that would be javascript | 19:10 |
| carogray | I hate those surveys that appear as soon as you get to website asking about your experience when you haven't even tried it yet. | 19:10 |
| @preaction | carogray: <body onunload="return confirm('Are you sure?')"> | 19:10 |
| carogray | can you point me to an example | 19:10 |
| carogray | ? | 19:10 |
| @preaction | right there, that's an example. toss that in your style template | 19:10 |
| carogray | remember, I am just a conceptual website coordinator - not actually programmer | 19:10 |
| carogray | anywhere? | 19:10 |
| @preaction | but, i might suggest, it is INCREDIBLY ANNOYING | 19:10 |
| @preaction | carogray: no, replace your existing <body> tag | 19:11 |
| @preaction | you need the onunload="..." part | 19:11 |
| carogray | go on...please | 19:11 |
| dionak | has anyone setup WebGUI on CentOS? | 19:11 |
| @preaction | dionak: yes, we do | 19:11 |
| carogray | preaction: is ther anyay to make it less annoying? | 19:11 |
| @preaction | carogray: no, the entire idea is annoying. | 19:12 |
| carogray | well, we just want it up temporarily - so much better when leaving a site than when entering | 19:12 |
| dionak | one of our clients offers an incentive for completing surveys and presents it as an Ad in the page | 19:12 |
| dionak | it's less annoying | 19:12 |
| dionak | but you may not get as many volunteering | 19:13 |
| carogray | ja.... I have just been told we haven't a penny | 19:13 |
| dionak | dunno without testing | 19:13 |
| carogray | I could always offer a weekend on the pig farm! | 19:13 |
| dionak | haha | 19:13 |
| carogray | reply now and you get to come in black fly season too! the real NH experience! | 19:14 |
| dionak | educational weekend on a quaint NH farm | 19:14 |
| dionak | ;) | 19:14 |
| carogray | think I will try annoying on leaving popup boxes... for two weeks. | 19:14 |
| CIA-104 | webgui: kimd master * r95e9e52 / (6 files in 6 dirs): Gallery: Allow specification of location when uploading ZIP archives (RFE 11502) - http://bit.ly/9W0dc9 | 19:24 |
| CIA-104 | webgui: kimd master * r8030bed / (6 files in 6 dirs): Gallery: Sorting of files uploaded in zip archives (RFE 11517) - http://bit.ly/bqOJgf | 19:24 |
| CIA-104 | webgui: Doug Bell master * r96a52c5 / (7 files in 7 dirs): Merge remote branch 'spunky/rfe11517' - http://bit.ly/aRlVE1 | 19:24 |
| scrottie1 | preaction, good morning. I'm supposed to talk to you. I just got in... still logging in to stuff. | 19:44 |
| @preaction | np, we gotta wait until colin gets back from the gym | 19:45 |
| @preaction | but we can talk, discuss some stuff i guess | 19:45 |
| @preaction | let me get my skype working | 19:45 |
| ckotil | perlDreamer: sweet. thanks | 20:12 |
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| scrottie1 | oh, boy. Chance of all tests passing 0.000% | 20:21 |
| scrottie1 | Image::Magick | 20:21 |
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| scrottie1 | installed my own perl long ago because very bad things happen when you try to mix and match vendor packages and modules installed from CPAN, and there's no way on earth I'm not going to install stuff from CPAN, and that usually works pretty well... | 20:22 |
| * perlDreamer is back | 20:26 | |
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| scrottie1 | starting to think that this is the one thing that might be the showstopper for trying to use my 5.12 install. | 20:27 |
| @preaction | imagemagick not working under 5.12? fun! | 20:28 |
| @preaction | that's our worst dependency really | 20:28 |
| +perlDreamer | 5.12 is so new, I wouldn't expect lots of things to work | 20:28 |
| scrottie1 | usually they watch smoke tests for important modules failing before a release and work with the module authors to get things resolved | 20:29 |
| scrottie1 | 5.12, they seemed to have let that practise slide a lot | 20:29 |
| scrottie1 | some of my favorites are down for the count... Data::Alias, for example | 20:29 |
| +perlDreamer | you could install the WRE scrottie | 20:29 |
| +perlDreamer | it'll get you up and going quickly | 20:30 |
| scrottie | yeah, it's looking like that would be a good idea. I'd need to figure out how to use that with git checked out versions of WebGUI. | 20:30 |
| +perlDreamer | it's pretty easy | 20:31 |
| +perlDreamer | as you install the WRE, it will ask you how you want to proceed | 20:31 |
| @preaction | i've got a symlink at /data/WebGUI that points to my currently-running codebase | 20:31 |
| +perlDreamer | either to pull the latest, or to do a manual install | 20:31 |
| +perlDreamer | then use what preaction said, the symlink to a git repo, and you're golden | 20:31 |
| @preaction | wgd has a "reset" function that will fix the database after you change git branches too | 20:32 |
| @preaction | did we update the "Getting Started Hacking" guide? do we even have one? | 20:32 |
| +perlDreamer | I think it's on the wiki, preaction | 20:32 |
| scrottie | vaguely remember seeing something like that | 20:33 |
| scrottie1 | testEnvironment.pl doesn't check whether you own the directories that modules get installed to, only that you are root. | 20:34 |
| @preaction | yes, that's a mild irritation (and if you want you can fix) | 20:34 |
| scrottie1 | woohoo! | 20:35 |
| +perlDreamer | your first WebGUI bug | 20:35 |
| @preaction | as you go you're probably gonna find lots of these little things that we've either just learned to live with or decided we didn't have time to fix yet | 20:35 |
| * perlDreamer gets tearful | 20:35 | |
| scrottie1 | such is life. | 20:35 |
| @preaction | keep track of them, even add # TODO in there and commit that, we will have 2-4 months of time to go in and do all that cleaning | 20:36 |
| @preaction | after we start releasing WebGUI 8 alphas | 20:36 |
| scrottie1 | amazing. | 20:36 |
| @preaction | yeah, we'll also be fixing 8 bugs, but i am damn tired of the little annoyances that add up to big problems | 20:37 |
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| * perlDreamer suspects we'll be fixing a few more than 8 bugs, preaction | 21:01 | |
| @preaction | damnit! what do I pay you for! | 21:01 |
| +perlDreamer | Playing straight man? | 21:02 |
| +perlDreamer | witty reparte'? | 21:02 |
| +perlDreamer | reminding you that it's 1:00pm CDT? | 21:02 |
| @preaction | yep, getting things rdy | 21:02 |
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| scrottie1 | I've been using the Cox internet but I ordered up some DSL from a local ISP for myself. that went live Friday and I did setup Monday. It doesn't work. Cox is basically awful. | 21:29 |
| @preaction | fun | 21:29 |
| +perlDreamer | FIOS ftw | 21:29 |
| scrottie1 | so, just btw, hopefully some day my Internet will start not sucking so much, but we'll see. | 21:29 |
| @preaction | i think the charter around here is rebranded cox | 21:29 |
| scrottie1 | I was hoping to get something better peered, too. | 21:30 |
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| +perlDreamer | hm, yet another CS template | 21:34 |
| scrottie1 | should I avoid wre-0.9.3-source? | 21:35 |
| @preaction | you can try it, but that requires compiling it | 21:35 |
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| +perlDreamer | lunch time | 21:49 |
| scrottie1 | time is an illusion. lunch time, doubly so. | 21:49 |
| +perlDreamer | the way the room is spinning, you could definitely be right | 21:50 |
| +perlDreamer | or left | 21:51 |
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| +perlDreamer | scrottie, you're having the hiccups | 23:39 |
| scrottie | yeah, Cox is in rare form today | 23:40 |
| scrottie | I'm actually in middle of trying to remember how to do ppp. I dug the 56k modem out of the closet. | 23:41 |
| scrottie | the local DSL provider I signed up with offers dialup too. the DSL ain't working but maybe that will. | 23:41 |
| scrottie | I paid to have this place wired for phone and by gum, I'm gunna use it! the phone wiring that was in the walls oxidized to the point where it just fell apart. depression era housing. | 23:43 |
| @preaction | fun, reminds me of my electrical | 23:43 |
| +perlDreamer | preaction, we could fix that when I'm in Mad-city | 23:45 |
| +perlDreamer | I wired my house | 23:45 |
| @preaction | i hope to have people living there before then | 23:46 |
| +perlDreamer | there == here? | 23:46 |
| @preaction | no, i don't live there anymore | 23:46 |
| +perlDreamer | ah, yes | 23:46 |
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| scrottie0 | drat, they stopped offering dialup free with DSL. they used to. | 00:50 |
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| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r22a6ce3 / (13 files): Remove 7.8 upgrade files from 7.9 - http://bit.ly/aVob4x | 01:59 |
| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * rf1ea810 / (8 files in 8 dirs): Allow users to unsubscribe via email address, without logging in. Fixes bug #11559. - http://bit.ly/9DsdcJ | 01:59 |
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| +perlDreamer | time to make dinner for the herd | 02:05 |
| scrottie0 | going to be back after that? | 02:05 |
| +perlDreamer | oh, yes | 02:06 |
| +perlDreamer | probably around 6:00pm PDT or so | 02:06 |
| scrottie0 | I'm thinking of running an errand (re: DSL going). if I can get all of this up, I'm likely to have questions as I start to look at test failures | 02:06 |
| scrottie0 | cool. | 02:06 |
| +perlDreamer | there will be no lack of test failures | 02:06 |
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| scrottie0 | cool. enjoy dinner with the grubs. | 02:07 |
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| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * re485fc3 / lib/WebGUI/i18n/English/Asset_Collaboration.pm : Add a missing i18n label for the new unsubscribe help. - http://bit.ly/9jWDHB | 03:43 |
| +perlDreamer | hm, no preaction | 03:43 |
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| CIA-104 | webgui: Graham Knop upgrades * raceec73 / lib/WebGUI/Exception.pm : allow smart matching exceptions to class names - http://bit.ly/9FVmDN | 04:35 |
| CIA-104 | webgui: Graham Knop upgrades * r68f1ed8 / (9 files in 4 dirs): more comments, support for txt and pod upgrade files - http://bit.ly/9sHmQx | 04:35 |
| Haarg | perlDreamer, i've added some comments to and reorganized WebGUI::Upgrade::Script a bit. might be more clear now. | 04:36 |
| +perlDreamer | cool | 04:38 |
| +perlDreamer | any work on the in-memory assets? | 04:38 |
| Haarg | not so far. i've been trying to get the upgrade stuff finished so i can move on to that. | 04:39 |
| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r2c75bc5 / t/Asset/Wobject/GalleryAlbum/addArchive.t : Potential test update due to ordering photos in GalleryAlbum addArchive. - http://bit.ly/aGG0Np | 04:48 |
| +perlDreamer | anyone in the channel have up to date git repo for the master branch? | 04:49 |
| +perlDreamer | I need a test verified on a different system | 04:49 |
| Haarg | i do but i don't have apache | 04:49 |
| +perlDreamer | not needed | 04:56 |
| +perlDreamer | t/Asset/Wobject/GalleryAlbum/addArchive.t | 04:56 |
| +perlDreamer | hm | 04:57 |
| +perlDreamer | I tried it on my VM, and the fileOrder it completely indeterminate | 04:57 |
| +perlDreamer | Haarg, I expect test 9 to fail | 04:57 |
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| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * re76f13b / t/Asset/Wobject/GalleryAlbum/addArchive.t : fileOrder is completely machine dependent, and the order is not determinate. Update the test to only check that all files are present, and not their order. - http://bit.ly/aczTBo | 05:02 |
| +perlDreamer | preaction: did all the tests pass when you committed the recent Gallery RFE's? | 05:02 |
| Haarg | perlDreamer, test 9 failed | 05:02 |
| +perlDreamer | thanks, Haarg | 05:02 |
| @preaction | perlDreamer: you know, I thought that because of kimd's recent success that i could skip it. i was wrong? | 05:02 |
| Haarg | i also reinstalled perl so UNIVERSAL::isa and UNIVERSAL::can are bitching at me again blah | 05:02 |
| +perlDreamer | preaction, one test is machine dependent for order | 05:03 |
| @preaction | yay! | 05:03 |
| +perlDreamer | so everything worked, but the test is wonky | 05:03 |
| @preaction | sorry | 05:03 |
| +perlDreamer | 15 push-ups | 05:03 |
| @preaction | i can only make 4 | 05:04 |
| +perlDreamer | try using both hands | 05:05 |
| CIA-104 | webgui: Graham Knop upgrades * r4df2326 / (7 files in 3 dirs): upgrade files as objects - http://bit.ly/bU1WUF | 05:15 |
| Haarg | preaction, would you be up for a code review of my upgrades branch? | 05:16 |
| Haarg | needs POD but is otherwise basically complete | 05:17 |
| @preaction | can i add it to the queue for wednesday? | 05:17 |
| Haarg | sure | 05:18 |
| @preaction | spent all day inside TGC's PDF generation code. feeling dirty | 05:19 |
| Haarg | i've spent most of the day screwing with homebrew and distroprefs so i can reinstall perl and everything else i use easily and without any intervention | 05:20 |
| Haarg | including imagemagick | 05:20 |
| @preaction | how is homebrew, btw? | 05:20 |
| Haarg | pretty nice. i had previously just been compiling everything myself into /usr/local | 05:21 |
| @preaction | oh, i've been using macports | 05:21 |
| Haarg | it basically automates that process as well as providing the right patches/config switches | 05:21 |
| Haarg | and makes uninstalling easy | 05:21 |
| Haarg | not a full package management system, but it does look at prereqs when installing | 05:22 |
| +perlDreamer | all ready for release. It'll start in an hour or so after the kiddos go to bed | 05:26 |
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| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r4969f31 / docs/create.sql : Preparing for 7.9.5 release - http://bit.ly/bSZ5ys | 06:14 |
| +perlDreamer | brb | 06:15 |
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| +perlDreamer | okay, everyone who is awake in the channel, please go hammer webgui.org | 07:05 |
| +perlDreamer | I'm looking for a subjective appraisal of speed. | 07:05 |
| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r5a0d7dd / (4 files in 4 dirs): Ready for 7.9.6 development cycle. - http://bit.ly/ce7v6y | 07:19 |
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| scrottie0 | w00t | 07:25 |
| +perlDreamer | dude! | 07:27 |
| +perlDreamer | got some bits? | 07:27 |
| scrottie0 | I sure seem to. | 07:27 |
| scrottie0 | It's 9 now... I left to visit the ISP's office at 6, I think it was. | 07:27 |
| +perlDreamer | ouch | 07:27 |
| scrottie0 | my DSL modem because an office curosity | 07:27 |
| scrottie0 | became | 07:27 |
| +perlDreamer | Richard just got scragged! | 07:29 |
| scrottie0 | who? huh? | 07:31 |
| +perlDreamer | I'm watching Lost | 07:32 |
| +perlDreamer | scrottie0: I'm getting ready to pack it in for tonight | 07:42 |
| +perlDreamer | got any last second questions? | 07:42 |
| scrottie0 | /data/WebGUI/conf/mime.types | 07:43 |
| scrottie0 | ... it's writing an error to error_log about the lack of that... that's where I left off | 07:43 |
| scrottie0 | not exactly a question but comments welcome. | 07:43 |
| scrottie0 | I'm sure I can track one down but there doesn't seem to be one in the git checkout and there's no mention of it in the src install instructions... No such file or directory: could not open mime types config file /data/WebGUI/conf/mime.types | 07:44 |
| +perlDreamer | there is no conf subdirectory in WebGUI | 07:45 |
| +perlDreamer | maybe it's a problem with your apache config file? | 07:45 |
| scrottie0 | hrm. oh. | 07:46 |
| scrottie0 | *blush* yes. | 07:47 |
| +perlDreamer | scrottie0, WebGUI is extremely difficult to setup and learn | 07:48 |
| scrottie0 | yeah. go to bed. hopefully I'll have this thing running by the morning. | 07:48 |
| +perlDreamer | that's one of the reasons we setup the WRE | 07:48 |
| +perlDreamer | and later, wgd | 07:48 |
| +perlDreamer | Lost is on for another 12 minutes | 07:48 |
| +perlDreamer | :) | 07:48 |
| scrottie0 | heh | 07:48 |
| scrottie0 | my Apache is rusty... this is the first time I've touched 2.x | 07:48 |
| +perlDreamer | would a sample config help? | 07:49 |
| scrottie0 | er, no, but thanks. | 07:49 |
| scrottie0 | haha! that and a module not checked by the dep installer and it's running. | 07:52 |
| scrottie0 | take that! | 07:52 |
| scrottie0 | afk, beer. | 07:52 |
| scrottie0 | got up at 6am to go pick apricots and peaches. going to make it an early night myself here. | 07:53 |
| +perlDreamer | cool! | 07:53 |
| +perlDreamer | you have a farm? | 07:53 |
| scrottie0 | that would be cool... nope. friend of a friend. place I'm staying at has figs, grapefruit, organes, pamegranites, mullberries, key limes... | 07:54 |
| scrottie0 | but that's not enough for me ;) | 07:54 |
| +perlDreamer | we haven't even planted up here, yet | 07:55 |
| scrottie0 | craziness. we put our summer gardens in... okra, tomatillos | 07:55 |
| scrottie0 | eggplant | 07:55 |
| scrottie0 | almost everything else has bolted and gone to seed. | 07:56 |
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| CIA-104 | WebGUI: translation * r12500 /translations/German/German/Account_Inbox.pm: Updating German on translation server | 14:41 |
| CIA-104 | WebGUI: translation * r12501 /translations/German/German/Asset.pm: Updating German on translation server | 14:41 |
| CIA-104 | WebGUI: translation * r12502 /translations/German/German/Asset_WikiMaster.pm: Updating German on translation server | 14:41 |
| CIA-104 | WebGUI: translation * r12503 /translations/German/German/Asset_Collaboration.pm: Updating German on translation server | 14:41 |
| CIA-104 | WebGUI: translation * r12504 /translations/German/German/Asset_GalleryAlbum.pm: Updating German on translation server | 14:56 |
| CIA-104 | WebGUI: translation * r12505 /translations/German/German/Asset_SyndicatedContent.pm: Updating German on translation server | 14:56 |
| CIA-104 | WebGUI: translation * r12506 /translations/German/German/WebGUI.pm: Updating German on translation server | 14:56 |
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| kimd | Morning everybody! | 15:40 |
| kimd | Is there a reason I cannot update to the current head on github? | 15:40 |
| kimd | git always aborts with the following error message "fatal: The remote end hung up unexpectedly" | 15:41 |
| +bartjol | morning kimd | 15:42 |
| kimd | Hi bartjol, how is it going? | 15:42 |
| +bartjol | I'm fine, except my setup of the picklanguage macro is/was buggie | 15:43 |
| +bartjol | but I don't know about git | 15:43 |
| kimd | Hm. So everyone has his or her own problem. | 15:44 |
| kimd | Are you trying to internationalize your private page? | 15:44 |
| +bartjol | well, the fix was fast, testing takes more time (mostly because it is not my daily job to test) | 15:44 |
| +bartjol | well, I was doing some stuff for the new procolix page | 15:45 |
| +bartjol | actually, I knew it for some time, that that was missing | 15:45 |
| kimd | I see. I hate writing testing code as well. It takes me at least twice the time required to implement the feature. | 15:45 |
| +bartjol | my site is dedicated to testing and galleries | 15:46 |
| +bartjol | well, but in the end it is best that stuff is tested | 15:46 |
| kimd | Sure. I did not want to question the necessity. | 15:47 |
| +bartjol | but, soon we will not need the Getsessionlanguage anymore, that functionality is incorporated in the PickLanguage macro | 15:49 |
| kimd | Hah. Git pull is working again. | 15:49 |
| +bartjol | ah, good | 15:50 |
| kimd | Did you write the PickLanguage macro? | 15:50 |
| +bartjol | yes | 15:51 |
| kimd | Nice. | 15:51 |
| +bartjol | and the contenthandler | 15:51 |
| kimd | Contenthandler? I have to admit I am not familiar with it. | 15:52 |
| kimd | Why is it not used on webgui.org? | 15:52 |
| +bartjol | mostly because I was presenting ¨Internationalization¨ at the wuc and that part was terrible | 15:52 |
| +bartjol | so I made more features | 15:52 |
| +bartjol | the contenthandler is the thing that actually switches the language, the macro only makes linkes to the contenthandler | 15:53 |
| +bartjol | dunno why it isn used | 15:53 |
| +bartjol | you can put ?op=setLanguage;language=German at the end of the url, that will do it | 15:53 |
| kimd | Will it change the language and/or switch to another branch? | 15:54 |
| +bartjol | at webgui.org only switch the webgui language | 15:54 |
| +bartjol | there isn another branch afaik | 15:54 |
| kimd | But can it swith to another branch as well? | 15:56 |
| +bartjol | no, not the picklanguage, that was the langguagepageswitch macro | 15:56 |
| kimd | I see. In any case, webgui seems to be ready for completely internationalized web pages. | 15:57 |
| kimd | Cool! | 15:57 |
| +bartjol | it might be worth looking whther the 2 can be merged | 15:57 |
| +bartjol | but that might be hard | 15:57 |
| kimd | I am really curious for the first example of use. | 15:58 |
| +bartjol | I haven used it myself, except for my presntation | 15:58 |
| kimd | bartjol, something else: Why has it become so silent in the forum and also the chat? | 15:59 |
| +bartjol | which is online on http://www.bartjol.nl/nl/home/wuc-2009-internationalisatie/ | 15:59 |
| kimd | I will have a look at it. | 16:00 |
| +bartjol | well, the amricans join the chat later | 16:00 |
| +bartjol | maybe webgui is better understandable | 16:00 |
| +bartjol | I don know | 16:00 |
| +bartjol | or the userbase is decreasing | 16:00 |
| kimd | I really have the impression that no one is posting in the forum anymore except for plainblack staff and the usual suspects. | 16:01 |
| kimd | I believe to remember that there was more activity in the past. | 16:01 |
| +bartjol | mmm, that isn good | 16:01 |
| kimd | No. Not at all. | 16:02 |
| +bartjol | I am skipping t´s today | 16:02 |
| kimd | That's all right. I can leave them out as well if you prefer. | 16:02 |
| +bartjol | no, thanks | 16:03 |
| kimd | Btw, I have a dutch colleague at Novartis. Very nice guy. | 16:03 |
| +bartjol | like most of us :) | 16:03 |
| kimd | Need to go for a beer with him. | 16:03 |
| kimd | Of course! | 16:03 |
| +bartjol | dutch guys and beer go very well together | 16:04 |
| kimd | That was my impression, too. I am still hoping to be able making a trip to the Netherlands this summer. | 16:04 |
| +bartjol | well, if you happen to come near Delft, let us know | 16:05 |
| kimd | I have a friend living there. I certainly would not pass. | 16:06 |
| kimd | I also have to pay a round for the two gooeys. | 16:06 |
| kimd | My daughter loves them by the way. | 16:06 |
| kimd | I am only worried since they were made in China. I hope the dyes are not too toxic. | 16:07 |
| +bartjol | oh | 16:07 |
| +bartjol | mmm | 16:07 |
| +bartjol | well, I don chew on them, but your daughter might | 16:07 |
| kimd | She will. But I am sure she will also survive. | 16:07 |
| +bartjol | oooh, interesting mail: I'm an orphan having $3,200,000 USD with a private trust company for safe keeping | 16:08 |
| kimd | Lucky you. That would mean no more work for procolix! | 16:08 |
| kimd | Now you can dedicate yourself full time to webgui development. | 16:08 |
| kimd | Congratulations! | 16:09 |
| +bartjol | oooh, cool | 16:09 |
| +bartjol | mmm, back to work | 16:09 |
| kimd | Yeah! Do something... | 16:10 |
| kimd | Hey, I just discovered the example image feature for templates. That is cool! Great work whoever has done it! | 16:12 |
| kimd | Someone online having experience with the "Add attachments" functionality in templates? | 16:15 |
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| +perlDreamer | bopbop, did you see the Shortcut changes in the 7.9 release yesterday? | 17:49 |
| @bopbop | no, but I'll run out and take a look | 17:50 |
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| kimd | pearlDreamer, thanks for fixing my testing code! | 17:58 |
| +perlDreamer | you're welcome, kimd | 17:59 |
| +perlDreamer | I've done the same thing | 17:59 |
| +perlDreamer | it's very frustrating when the test works "here", but not at some else's "here" | 17:59 |
| kimd | Oh, did it throw an error on your machine? | 18:00 |
| kimd | Well, must have. Otherwise you probably would not have noticed. | 18:00 |
| +perlDreamer | that particular test failed | 18:00 |
| +perlDreamer | because the order was different | 18:01 |
| +perlDreamer | so I tried it on a VM, and it was different again | 18:01 |
| kimd | Very interesting though. I wonder what is influencing file order on different machines. | 18:01 |
| +perlDreamer | No idea. | 18:02 |
| +perlDreamer | It's the order that the archive gets unpacked | 18:02 |
| kimd | That is what I would have thought. | 18:02 |
| kimd | And that should result in the same order when using the same unzip binary. Shouldn't it? | 18:02 |
| +perlDreamer | I would have thought so, but obviously it isn't | 18:03 |
| kimd | Well, doesn't matter. Most people will go with alphabetical sorting anyway. | 18:03 |
| kimd | Btw, I forgot to include a package in one of the patches. Did you see my note? | 18:04 |
| +perlDreamer | no | 18:04 |
| +perlDreamer | is it attached to one of the RFE's? | 18:04 |
| kimd | Yes. One moment, please... | 18:05 |
| kimd | It is here: http://www.webgui.org/rfe/request-for-enhancement/11517 | 18:05 |
| +perlDreamer | how will the system work without that template, kimd? | 18:06 |
| kimd | The radio button list for sorting is missing. That's all. | 18:07 |
| kimd | It's an update. Not a new template. | 18:07 |
| +perlDreamer | Can you please open a bug for that? To let people know that the new ordering won't work until 7.9.6? | 18:07 |
| kimd | Will do. | 18:07 |
| +perlDreamer | Thanks! | 18:12 |
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| +perlDreamer | morning, preaction | 18:20 |
| @preaction | good morning perlDreamer! | 18:20 |
| kimd | morning, preaction :-) | 18:20 |
| +perlDreamer | preaction, if static navigations are so cool, should we RFE them into the core? | 18:21 |
| +perlDreamer | by adding a cache timeout field to the nav? | 18:21 |
| +perlDreamer | and maybe a "cache only for Visitor" boolean | 18:21 |
| @preaction | won't work, period. think macros, think permissions, think IP-based groups, scratch-based groups | 18:21 |
| @preaction | it's a very limited use-case | 18:21 |
| * perlDreamer hates IP-based groups and scratch based gropus | 18:22 | |
| @preaction | yeah, tell me about it. | 18:22 |
| +perlDreamer | well, first, they're a horrible hack into the Group | 18:22 |
| +perlDreamer | they should be done through some other authentication method | 18:22 |
| +perlDreamer | they're hacky | 18:22 |
| +perlDreamer | and those scratch variables stay around forever | 18:22 |
| +perlDreamer | you never know when the IP addresses are going to change | 18:23 |
| @preaction | they predate pluggable auth probably | 18:23 |
| +perlDreamer | kimd, you rock! | 18:23 |
| kimd | Why is that? | 18:23 |
| +perlDreamer | for hacking on the Gallery | 18:23 |
| +perlDreamer | for suggesting that people adopt assets | 18:24 |
| +perlDreamer | for writing tests for your RFEs | 18:24 |
| +perlDreamer | for following up on things to make sure they get done | 18:24 |
| +perlDreamer | for translating WebGUI into German | 18:24 |
| kimd | Ooh. That is a long list. | 18:24 |
| kimd | Thank you, too. Basically for a lot more than that. | 18:24 |
| kimd | The "adopt an asset" thing wasn't that successful, was it? | 18:25 |
| kimd | Not a single reply. I have to say that I am quite disappointed. | 18:25 |
| @preaction | you tried, and i applaud your attempt, but trying to whip up the troops around here is pretty much null program | 18:25 |
| kimd | It has become quite silent in the forum. Or is that just my impression. | 18:26 |
| kimd | Sad but true. I really wonder where all the users have gone. | 18:26 |
| @preaction | no, i agree. there were a few projects i was working on that people seemed excited about but now that i need their help (that they agreed to) they're nowhere | 18:26 |
| kimd | Hm. I hope there will be better times. I am getting more excited about webgui every day. | 18:27 |
| +perlDreamer | we should try and recruit martien | 18:27 |
| +perlDreamer | he's very involved with WebGUI | 18:27 |
| +perlDreamer | we just need to find the projects that motivate him | 18:27 |
| kimd | Seems so. But he is not a team player. | 18:27 |
| @preaction | yeah, i feel bad i keep killing his i18n dreams, but they're just not feasible as he describes them | 18:27 |
| +perlDreamer | then we need to find another one | 18:28 |
| kimd | Don't worry. He will get over it. | 18:28 |
| +perlDreamer | maybe this WAI thing now | 18:28 |
| kimd | WAI? | 18:28 |
| +perlDreamer | small, targeted bugs with fixes would be great | 18:28 |
| +perlDreamer | Web Accessability Initiative | 18:28 |
| +perlDreamer | making sure that web pages are usable by people with disabilities | 18:28 |
| kimd | I see. You think Martien would be interested in taking over? | 18:29 |
| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * rd3cd81f / (2 files in 2 dirs): Upgrade the template for adding an archive to handle sorting order. Fixes bug #11577 - http://bit.ly/9M9Hxm | 18:30 |
| kimd | I really don't want to badmouth. But when I was trying to build up a German community, Martien and Klaus both let me down. | 18:30 |
| +perlDreamer | I don't know. he seems at least interested in contributing | 18:30 |
| kimd | My impression is that they are rather into their own business. | 18:30 |
| kimd | Is he contributing? | 18:30 |
| +perlDreamer | sure | 18:30 |
| +perlDreamer | forum postings | 18:30 |
| +perlDreamer | RFEs | 18:31 |
| +perlDreamer | Bazaar items | 18:31 |
| +perlDreamer | bugs | 18:31 |
| kimd | That is true. I know that he is trying to build his own German community page. | 18:31 |
| kimd | It is here: http://www.webgui-professional.de/ | 18:31 |
| kimd | He preferred that instead of internationalizing webgui.org | 18:32 |
| +perlDreamer | his ideas for user-level i18n weren't accepted, so maybe he decided to go that route instead? | 18:32 |
| kimd | Not sure. I really do not understand him. We had some discussions on the German board and never came to an agreement. | 18:33 |
| kimd | It is a pitty. | 18:33 |
| +perlDreamer | definitely | 18:34 |
| kimd | It would be so much more effective to pull on the same rope. | 18:34 |
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| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * re03f754 / (3 files in 3 dirs): Fix the name of the ConvertUTCToTZ macro in config files. Fixes bug #11576. - http://bit.ly/b8KuBB | 18:38 |
| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.8 * r1d08edf / (4 files in 3 dirs): Fix the name of the ConvertUTCToTZ macro in config files. Fixes bug #11576. - http://bit.ly/9CYuq9 | 18:40 |
| +perlDreamer | kimd, for your next volunteer milestone, we need you to recruit a French volunteer for translating and promoting WebGUI | 18:42 |
| kimd | Maybe not all that difficult. I am living right next to the French border. And I have lots of French colleagues. | 18:43 |
| kimd | Now I only need to find a web enthusiast. | 18:43 |
| kimd | perlDreamer, preaction: What about the template working group? Any progress there? It seems to me that all the complicated templates have not been touched yet. | 18:46 |
| +perlDreamer | they've started with the basics | 18:46 |
| +perlDreamer | Article, Navigation | 18:46 |
| +perlDreamer | then they did styles | 18:46 |
| +perlDreamer | I'm not sure what their current status is | 18:46 |
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| kimd | But they are still active, are they? | 18:48 |
| +perlDreamer | oh yes | 18:48 |
| +perlDreamer | maybe we could ask patspam about TWG status? | 18:48 |
| * perlDreamer mutters the arcane words that wake patspam up from his long slumber | 18:48 | |
| kimd | It seems you need to do your magic again. | 18:49 |
| * perlDreamer must be out of magic | 18:49 | |
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| @khenn | So | 18:51 |
| @khenn | I was thinking about it | 18:51 |
| @khenn | and I ran it by doug | 18:51 |
| @khenn | and I think I figured out a way to fix the slowness issue with Navigations | 18:52 |
| @khenn | The only real reason we need to instantiate each asset in navigations is to check permissions | 18:52 |
| +perlDreamer | khenn, after the Group thing, I'm all over your anti-slowness campaign | 18:52 |
| @khenn | heh | 18:52 |
| @khenn | and instantiating each asset is what slows the thing down | 18:53 |
| +perlDreamer | that and making 8000 template variables for each asset | 18:53 |
| @khenn | and the reason we have to instantiate to check permissions is because every asset can have it's own "canView" method | 18:53 |
| @khenn | so | 18:53 |
| @khenn | but most assets do not have this method | 18:53 |
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| @khenn | and they call the default | 18:54 |
| @khenn | so I ran this idea by Doug and he thinks it will work | 18:54 |
| @khenn | what if, instead of instantiating *every* asset | 18:54 |
| @khenn | we instantiate the "base asset" | 18:54 |
| @khenn | the root asset of the nav | 18:55 |
| @khenn | call Lineage on that asset to get the children / descendants | 18:55 |
| @khenn | loop over the descendants, but instead of instantiating each one | 18:55 |
| @khenn | check the class itself for two things | 18:55 |
| @khenn | 1) do I inherit directly from Wobject or from Asset | 18:55 |
| @khenn | 2) do I have my own canView method | 18:56 |
| @khenn | if both of those are false | 18:56 |
| @khenn | don't bother instantiating | 18:56 |
| @khenn | just call the *new* isInGroup for groupIdView and groupIdEdit | 18:56 |
| @khenn | or check that the user is the owner | 18:56 |
| +perlDreamer | how do you know if the class has an overridden canView method? | 18:56 |
| @khenn | that's (2) | 18:56 |
| @preaction | *{$class."::canView"} | 18:56 |
| @khenn | you only check the class itself | 18:57 |
| @khenn | you don't check any of it's superclasses | 18:57 |
| @preaction | probably need a "no strict 'refs';" before that | 18:57 |
| +perlDreamer | symbol walking can be slow | 18:57 |
| @khenn | so you are simply checking the class for that method specifically | 18:57 |
| @preaction | you're not walking, you're just checking the one class | 18:57 |
| @khenn | yeah you are just checking for the existence of 1 class | 18:57 |
| @preaction | but of course we'd need benchmarks | 18:57 |
| @khenn | so I think that will work | 18:58 |
| +perlDreamer | it's very similar to the code that Haarg yarded out of International, that sped it up so much | 18:58 |
| @khenn | yeah | 18:58 |
| +perlDreamer | even just poking in there is slow, let alone walking | 18:58 |
| @khenn | the problem is I don't have the time to do it | 18:58 |
| @khenn | so is anyone willing to take on this side project? | 18:58 |
| @preaction | the real question is: Is a symbol table lookup faster or slower than 30+ calls to $i18n->get | 18:59 |
| @preaction | and the lookup itself could be cached | 19:00 |
| @preaction | but the call to definition() could not be | 19:00 |
| +perlDreamer | how will it scale to Moose? | 19:00 |
| @preaction | moose doesn't have the definition problem | 19:00 |
| +perlDreamer | so it's fast enough that we don't need this speed-up | 19:01 |
| @preaction | well, maybe not this particular one | 19:01 |
| @preaction | patspam said he could squeek out a few thousand requests per second more than on webgui 7 | 19:01 |
| +perlDreamer | I know I'm a big downer today | 19:03 |
| +perlDreamer | but I'll believe those numbers better when wg8 actually works ;) | 19:03 |
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| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.8 * r93bbe64 / (docs/changelog/7.x.x.txt lib/WebGUI/Asset/Post.pm): The edit stamp should contain the name of the user who edited the post, not the original poster. Fixes bug #11578. - http://bit.ly/cVbgkF | 19:15 |
| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r7608200 / (docs/changelog/7.x.x.txt lib/WebGUI/Asset/Post.pm): The edit stamp should contain the name of the user who edited the post, not the original poster. Fixes bug #11578. - http://bit.ly/bDgnj5 | 19:15 |
| +perlDreamer | bbiab | 19:43 |
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| @preaction | what do i need to do to get the 32-bit WRE to work on a 64-bit system? | 20:21 |
| @preaction | i'm trying to install Bundle::CPAN and it's giving me errors: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64 | 20:22 |
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| @preaction | figured it out. i need "-arch x86" in my CCFLAGS | 20:25 |
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| @preaction | nope. that doesn't work unless i build all the modules by hand it seems... | 20:30 |
| +perlDreamer | can you throw that into a CCFLAGS env variable or something that the makefiles will pick up automatically? | 20:31 |
| @preaction | tried that | 20:31 |
| kimd | I am having a search problem here. Someone familiar with WebGUI::Search? | 21:00 |
| kimd | What I would like to do is include the "location" field in gallery searches. | 21:00 |
| kimd | If I understand correctly, the Photo table is joined into queries via the joinClass parameter. Correct? | 21:01 |
| kimd | So why can't I just add the following to the where clause: $where .= q{ AND Photo.location LIKE } | 21:01 |
| kimd | . $db->quote( '%' . $form->get("location") . '%' ) | 21:01 |
| kimd | The search always returns nothing. | 21:02 |
| kimd | No one having a clue? | 21:05 |
| +perlDreamer | kimd, each asset has a method for adding in new data fields | 21:05 |
| +perlDreamer | it's called, something Index...? | 21:05 |
| +perlDreamer | indexContent | 21:06 |
| +perlDreamer | any asset that wants to add in more data should subclass that method | 21:06 |
| +perlDreamer | and add fields to it | 21:06 |
| kimd | The field is already there. I only want to search it. | 21:06 |
| +perlDreamer | right, but the data isn't in the search index | 21:06 |
| +perlDreamer | have a peek at WebGUI/Asset/Story.pm, sub indexContent | 21:07 |
| kimd | Ok. I will. | 21:07 |
| +perlDreamer | the Story asset adds the headline, byline, highlights, and more to the search index | 21:07 |
| +perlDreamer | so you can't search only by location using WebGUI::Search | 21:07 |
| +perlDreamer | you can only add the location fields to it | 21:07 |
| +perlDreamer | so that searches will be able to consider that field (in addition to everything else) | 21:08 |
| kimd | Are you sure? If I understand the code correctly, WebGUI::Search can join in class tables. | 21:08 |
| kimd | That would allow me to search columns directly by amending the where clause. | 21:09 |
| kimd | That is exactly how the title is searched for, for example. | 21:09 |
| kimd | Just that the title is in assetIndex | 21:09 |
| kimd | No, assetData. | 21:09 |
| kimd | The following code is used: | 21:10 |
| kimd | if ( $form->get("title") ) { | 21:10 |
| kimd | $where .= q{ AND assetData.title LIKE } | 21:10 |
| kimd | . $db->quote( '%' . $form->get("title") . '%' ) | 21:10 |
| kimd | ; | 21:10 |
| kimd | } | 21:10 |
| kimd | Shouldn't that work for the location as well? | 21:10 |
| +perlDreamer | where is that code, kimd? | 21:13 |
| kimd | It is in the www_search method of WebGUI::Asset::Wobject::Gallery | 21:13 |
| kimd | Strange. I checked the join clause constructed by WebGUI::Search. The Photo tabled is joined in via 'left join Photo on assetData.assetId=Photo.assetId and assetData.revisionDate=Photo.revisionDate'. | 21:23 |
| +perlDreamer | that looks right to me | 21:24 |
| kimd | I have also checked the Photo.location column in the database. It contains the keywords I am searching for. | 21:25 |
| +perlDreamer | kimd, I'd love to see some pasted code after I come back from lunch, if you're still awake then | 21:40 |
| kimd | Sounds good. Hurry up ;-) | 21:41 |
| +perlDreamer | humph | 21:43 |
| +perlDreamer | rushing digestion could damage my fine code fixing skills | 21:43 |
| +perlDreamer | we don't want that, do we? | 21:43 |
| kimd | I would risk it :-P | 21:48 |
| @khenn | kimd you can join classes to the search | 22:10 |
| kimd | That is what I am doing. The joinClass paramter should do this job. | 22:10 |
| kimd | In addition, I have added "columns => ['Photo.location']" as a rule. | 22:11 |
| @khenn | yes | 22:11 |
| @khenn | is it working? | 22:11 |
| kimd | No. | 22:11 |
| kimd | I still get an empty result set. | 22:11 |
| kimd | I have checked the query constructed by WebGUI::Search. | 22:11 |
| kimd | It seems to be fine to me. | 22:11 |
| @khenn | pastebin the query | 22:12 |
| kimd | http://webgui.pastebin.com/uscFhaLh | 22:13 |
| kimd | I have reformatted for better understanding. | 22:13 |
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| kimd | khenn, where you able to find a bug? | 22:47 |
| @khenn | oh sorry | 22:48 |
| @khenn | I didn't see it pasted | 22:48 |
| @khenn | I'll take a look quick | 22:48 |
| @khenn | you can't join the second table | 22:48 |
| @khenn | it won't work | 22:48 |
| @khenn | it's left joining Gallery Album and then Photo | 22:49 |
| @khenn | they both can't have the same assetId | 22:49 |
| @khenn | and thus that join won't work | 22:49 |
| @khenn | you can only join one or the other | 22:50 |
| kimd | Ok. But that is what was in the code already. | 22:50 |
| +perlDreamer | where, kimd? | 22:50 |
| kimd | The join clauses are automatically generated. | 22:50 |
| kimd | http://webgui.pastebin.com/wYRT5rQF | 22:50 |
| kimd | That is my version of the www_view method. | 22:51 |
| kimd | I mean www_search method. | 22:51 |
| kimd | But the original one is simiar. | 22:51 |
| @khenn | yes | 22:51 |
| @khenn | you can't join that other table | 22:51 |
| @khenn | even though it lets you do it | 22:51 |
| kimd | Join clauses get auto-generated by WebGUI::Search due to the joinClass parameter | 22:51 |
| @khenn | try instead | 22:51 |
| @khenn | to not join either | 22:51 |
| @khenn | and search all the assets with lineage starting with the lineage of the gallery | 22:52 |
| @khenn | asset | 22:52 |
| kimd | ? | 22:52 |
| @khenn | so tell it to search all the assets beneath the root that have a lineage staring with 'root_lineage%' | 22:52 |
| +perlDreamer | doesn't that say that Gallery.pm's www_search doesn't work, and that it's a bug? | 22:52 |
| @khenn | and className in ('WebGUI::Asset::Wobject::GalleryAlbum','WebGUI::Asset::File::GalleryFile::Photo' ) | 22:52 |
| kimd | That is what it's doing as far as I understand. | 22:52 |
| @khenn | it is | 22:53 |
| @khenn | but it's only searching Galleries | 22:53 |
| @khenn | it's not searching photos | 22:53 |
| kimd | No. It's searching both. | 22:53 |
| kimd | Definitely. | 22:53 |
| kimd | I get both if I search by date for example. | 22:53 |
| kimd | Only searching by location does not work so far. | 22:53 |
| @khenn | hmm | 22:54 |
| @khenn | seems to me that the left join on Photos wouldn't return anything | 22:54 |
| kimd | But as you said, the reason is probably that joining does not work. | 22:54 |
| @khenn | what was the original doing? | 22:54 |
| @khenn | was it also joining Photos? | 22:54 |
| kimd | Yes. | 22:55 |
| +perlDreamer | kimd, please try to setup a simple gallery, with two albums and some photos | 22:55 |
| kimd | Responsible code is here: | 22:55 |
| kimd | # | 22:55 |
| kimd | my $p | 22:55 |
| kimd | # | 22:55 |
| kimd | = $self->getSearchPaginator( { | 22:55 |
| kimd | # | 22:55 |
| kimd | url => $url, | 22:55 |
| kimd | # | 22:55 |
| kimd | keywords => $keywords, | 22:55 |
| kimd | # | 22:55 |
| kimd | where => $where, | 22:55 |
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| kimd | # | 22:55 |
| kimd | classes => $classes, | 22:55 |
| kimd | # | 22:55 |
| +perlDreamer | kimd, stop! | 22:55 |
| kimd | joinClass => $classes, | 22:55 |
| kimd | # | 22:55 |
| kimd | columns => $columns, | 22:56 |
| +perlDreamer | the channel will kick you out | 22:56 |
| kimd | # | 22:56 |
| kimd | creationDate => $creationDate, | 22:56 |
| kimd | # | 22:56 |
| kimd | } ); | 22:56 |
| kimd | Oh. | 22:56 |
| kimd | pearlDreamer, I have a test gallery in place. | 22:56 |
| kimd | What do you want me to do? | 22:56 |
| +perlDreamer | make sure the photos have titles, and descriptions | 22:56 |
| +perlDreamer | and try a search | 22:56 |
| +perlDreamer | if the seach fails, we have a bug to fix | 22:56 |
| +perlDreamer | if it works, we need to understand why | 22:56 |
| kimd | No. The search works fine. | 22:56 |
| +perlDreamer | and it returns photos? | 22:57 |
| kimd | Yes. It does. | 22:57 |
| kimd | And it returns albums. | 22:57 |
| kimd | No problem at all. | 22:57 |
| @khenn | could this be the culprit? | 22:57 |
| @khenn | and (creationDate between ? and ?) | 22:57 |
| kimd | Only if try to search Photo.location I get an empty result set. | 22:57 |
| kimd | I don't think so. Dates get auto-generated. | 22:58 |
| kimd | If you leave all other fields empty the whole gallery content is returned. | 22:58 |
| kimd | And that works perfectly. | 22:58 |
| @khenn | start taking stuff out of the where clause until it works I guess | 22:58 |
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| kimd | Ok. I will play with it. | 22:59 |
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| kimd | Hm. If I search for photos exclusively, only the Photo table gets joined. Still the result set is empty. | 23:03 |
| kimd | Could it be due to linking of revisionDates? | 23:04 |
| kimd | In the join clause we have 'left join Photo on assetData.assetId=Photo.assetId and assetData.revisionDate=Photo.revisionDate' | 23:04 |
| @khenn | take that out of the join and see what happens | 23:05 |
| @khenn | perhaps | 23:05 |
| kimd | In the where clause the revisionDate of assetData is limited to the most recent revision. | 23:05 |
| kimd | I can't that easily. | 23:05 |
| @khenn | I still think the way I suggested will work | 23:05 |
| @khenn | take all the joins off | 23:05 |
| kimd | As I said, it is auto-generated by WebGUI::Search. | 23:05 |
| kimd | I only pass in rules. | 23:05 |
| @khenn | so it's just joining asset and assetData | 23:06 |
| @khenn | give it a lineage like 'root_lineage%' | 23:06 |
| kimd | That is the default. | 23:06 |
| kimd | The lineage is set. | 23:06 |
| @khenn | and className in ('WebGUI::Asset::Wobject::GalleryAlbum','WebGUI::Asset::File::GalleryFile::Photo' ) | 23:06 |
| @khenn | ok | 23:06 |
| kimd | That happens in getSearchPaginator | 23:07 |
| @khenn | so perhaps you just need to pass in that className filter | 23:07 |
| kimd | That is done by setting the class rule for WebGUI::Search | 23:07 |
| @khenn | I guess I'd really need to tinker with it to figure it out | 23:07 |
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| kimd | pearlDreamer, where is indexContent defined for the first time? Is that in WebGUI::Asset? | 23:16 |
| +perlDreamer | yes | 23:17 |
| kimd | Ok. So if Gallery does not have its own indexContent method it is inherited from there. | 23:17 |
| kimd | I believe you are right that I need to add the location to keywords. | 23:18 |
| +perlDreamer | I think it's the right thing to do | 23:18 |
| kimd | If I understand the query correctly, it is looking for both: match of the location and the keywords. | 23:18 |
| kimd | That means the location must be in the keywords as well. | 23:18 |
| kimd | Otherwise the result set will be empty. | 23:19 |
| kimd | I am going to try that. | 23:19 |
| kimd | pearlDreamer, when is indexContent called at run time? | 23:36 |
| +perlDreamer | it's called in commit | 23:36 |
| kimd | I have added the following to WebGUI::Asset::File::GalleryFile::Photo: | 23:36 |
| kimd | sub indexContent { | 23:37 |
| kimd | my $self = shift; | 23:37 |
| kimd | my $indexer = $self->SUPER::indexContent; | 23:37 |
| kimd | $indexer->addKeywords($self->get("location")); | 23:37 |
| kimd | } | 23:37 |
| kimd | Still, I cannot see the location in keywords in the database. | 23:37 |
| +perlDreamer | restarted the web server? | 23:38 |
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| kimd | No. Do I have to? | 23:38 |
| kimd | Ah. Of course! | 23:39 |
| +perlDreamer | :) | 23:39 |
| kimd | It is late already. | 23:39 |
| +perlDreamer | you should take a break, have some wine | 23:39 |
| +perlDreamer | kiss your child on the forehead | 23:39 |
| +perlDreamer | snuggle up to the wife, and go at it again tomorrow | 23:39 |
| kimd | They are both not here. | 23:41 |
| kimd | And wine is not an option since I am still feeling a bit sick. I virus caught me yesterday. | 23:42 |
| kimd | Hm. The location is still not included. I don't get it. | 23:42 |
| kimd | Ok. I am giving up for today. But this won't let me sleep anyway. | 23:47 |
| kimd | pearlDreamer, one last question: | 23:47 |
| +perlDreamer | sir? | 23:47 |
| kimd | Is it possible that indexContent in WebGUI::Asset::File::GalleryFile::Photo does not get called for some reason? | 23:48 |
| kimd | Would WebGUI::Asset::Wobject::Gallery have to call it? | 23:48 |
| +perlDreamer | if Photo does not inherit commit from Asset.pm, then it is possible that it is not indexing its photos | 23:48 |
| +perlDreamer | but you have said that photos work in a search | 23:48 |
| +perlDreamer | so I don't think that's it | 23:49 |
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| kimd | Yes. But I only see the default keywords. | 23:49 |
| kimd | Wait a moment. In Story we have 'my $indexer = $self->next::method();' | 23:52 |
| kimd | In File it is 'my $indexer = $self->SUPER::indexContent;' | 23:52 |
| kimd | Does that mean anything? | 23:52 |
| +perlDreamer | it has to do with how it inherits classes | 23:53 |
| +perlDreamer | Story uses Class::C3 | 23:53 |
| +perlDreamer | and File does not | 23:53 |
| kimd | Hm. I am going to bed. Will not solve it tonight, anyway. | 23:54 |
| kimd | Thanks for all the help. | 23:54 |
| kimd | Good night everyone! | 23:54 |
| scrottie1 | night kimd | 23:55 |
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| +perlDreamer | time to go pick up the kids | 01:45 |
| +perlDreamer | bbiaw | 01:45 |
| * scrottie1 nods | 01:46 | |
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| * perlDreamer is back | 02:17 | |
| +perlDreamer | scrottie1, do you have all your bits in a row now? | 02:26 |
| scrottie1 | *all* of my bits? | 02:27 |
| scrottie1 | I fixed a trivial bug and pushed it to a WebGUI8 fork on github. | 02:27 |
| scrottie1 | along with other muddlings around | 02:27 |
| +perlDreamer | cool! | 02:28 |
| scrottie1 | but mostly I'm clocked out, waiting for backups to finish, and I'm going to roll the apt dice and see if I can get X to stop crashing so damn much | 02:28 |
| scrottie1 | I failed to activate my Cricket CDMA data modem. Cricket says it's too old. bah. | 02:28 |
| scrottie1 | I got this MiFi like device and everything so I wouldn't have to try to get it to work with Linux. | 02:29 |
| scrottie1 | I should probably be pulling from your branch too.. | 02:39 |
| +perlDreamer | I'm lazy, and I work directly in the WebGUI8 branch | 02:41 |
| +perlDreamer | if I have a lot of work to do, I make a small private branch, and then merge it in | 02:41 |
| +perlDreamer | but I don't do that very often | 02:41 |
| scrottie1 | that's cool. as long as I'm pulling from where I should be pulling from. | 02:42 |
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| scrottie1 | cool | 03:10 |
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| SDuensin | Greetings. | 16:36 |
| Haarg | morning | 16:36 |
| +bartjol | howdy | 16:37 |
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| @khenn | morning | 17:42 |
| @khenn | =) | 17:42 |
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| scrottie1 | I'm tempted to just do no warnings 'UNIVERSAL::isa'. would that be bad? | 19:40 |
| scrottie1 | I'd be reluctant to fix the UNIVERSAL::isa($mayberef, 'Whatever') calls and UNIVERSAL::isa does its job fine making those work for overriden isa-s. modules with more black magic don't emit smoke. | 19:42 |
| @preaction | is it us calling universal or some of our prereqs? | 19:46 |
| +perlDreamer | it's Test::Deep | 19:47 |
| +perlDreamer | I think | 19:47 |
| scrottie1 | ack 'UNIVERSAL::isa' => nottin' | 19:48 |
| @preaction | then we can safely ignore it. would setting no warnings 'UNIVSERAL::isa' in our test scripts even fix it? wouldn't you have to inject it into Test::Deep's scope? | 19:49 |
| @preaction | scrottie1: did you figure out if the failing test is a bad test or bad code? | 19:50 |
| scrottie1 | nope, can't turn off warnings for them. Had to try that though. | 19:51 |
| scrottie1 | well, I didn't change the test in the case of FormBuilder to see if that one change was all that was needed, but the test and code don't match. | 19:52 |
| scrottie1 | I don't know enough about the intentions there to know if either or which could be considered bad. | 19:52 |
| +perlDreamer | WebGUI has always accepted lower case aliases for form fields | 19:53 |
| @preaction | formbuilder should be avoided right now. i've got some major changes in another branch i'm waiting to merge | 19:53 |
| +perlDreamer | and all the tests will pass before the merge? ;) | 19:54 |
| scrottie1 | hrm. I could make the thing scan case insensitively but is there no point? | 19:54 |
| @preaction | yes, that's what i'm waiting for. had to do some other work but now i'm back on writing more tests and making them pass. going for 90+ coverage | 19:54 |
| +perlDreamer | awesome | 19:55 |
| scrottie1 | I could also investigate plugin systems but those tend to be bulky and come with problems of their own. | 19:55 |
| +perlDreamer | scrottie1, let's avoid the formbuilder stuff for now | 19:55 |
| scrottie1 | wait, all of the test in which branch? | 19:55 |
| @preaction | scrottie1: no point. i want people to STOP using that damned "feature". i want them to use full class names or uppercase | 19:55 |
| @preaction | in my working copy | 19:55 |
| scrottie1 | the PGSI stuff? | 19:55 |
| @preaction | no, i'm working on Asset->getEditForm, www_edit, and the Admin Console | 19:56 |
| scrottie1 | cool. just curious. | 19:56 |
| @preaction | i'm working on the biggest hangup to understanding webgui ;) i intend to break just about everything | 19:57 |
| scrottie1 | preaction++ | 19:57 |
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| +patspam | hmm just had to clear the cache (via admin console) on a production site so that a user would show up in the correct group | 20:47 |
| +patspam | that should never have to happen right? | 20:47 |
| +patspam | my custom code does its group manipulation via addToGroups and deleteFromGroups, which both call uncache() | 20:48 |
| +perlDreamer | patspam: that's correct | 20:51 |
| +perlDreamer | which version is it running? | 20:51 |
| +patspam | 7.7.21 | 20:51 |
| +patspam | can you recall any caching bugs that have been fixed in the last few months? | 20:52 |
| +perlDreamer | no | 20:52 |
| +perlDreamer | the only caching bugs I've seen are due to permission problems on the cache directory | 20:52 |
| +perlDreamer | but you used the admin console to clear it, so that shouldn't be a problem | 20:52 |
| +patspam | Group cache slip (#11574) doesn't appear to be related (I'm not using group expiry) | 20:53 |
| +perlDreamer | no, and it's only on the back end, not the front end of joining a group | 20:53 |
| +patspam | getting slammed with these sorts of bugs at the moment, probably related to the user base exceeding 5k | 20:55 |
| @preaction | but there were Group bugs fixed recently | 20:57 |
| @preaction | you might want to upgrade for those, including huge performance gains (like, astronomical) | 20:58 |
| +perlDreamer | patspam, were the groups in question using IP or scratch | 20:58 |
| +patspam | pd: no | 20:59 |
| +perlDreamer | those were the recent Group bugs | 20:59 |
| +perlDreamer | hm | 20:59 |
| +patspam | preaction: are those performance improvements in stable yet? | 20:59 |
| +perlDreamer | no, just beta | 20:59 |
| +patspam | yeah ok, will have to wait a bit for that.. but can't wait to see if it speeds up things | 20:59 |
| +patspam | sounded really good | 21:00 |
| +perlDreamer | we had to reevaluate some of the numbers due to a wonky script | 21:00 |
| @preaction | ask frodwith how he merged the changes back to 7.x perhaps? | 21:00 |
| +perlDreamer | but it's still integer factors faster | 21:00 |
| @frodwith | *sleepy grunt* uh wha? | 21:00 |
| @preaction | the new method, without cache, is faster than the old method with cache | 21:00 |
| @preaction | frodwith: did you get the new group performance stuff ported to ancient webgui versions? | 21:01 |
| @frodwith | working on that right now actually | 21:01 |
| +patspam | frodwith++ | 21:01 |
| @preaction | i will be very interested in knowing how you did it once it's done | 21:01 |
| @frodwith | well so far I've just got done reviewing the patch to make sure I understand it | 21:02 |
| @preaction | no rush, no worries, just blog-worthy | 21:02 |
| @frodwith | git diff v7.5.29 master -- lib/WebGUI/User.pm, edit edit edit, patched! | 21:03 |
| @frodwith | i should think | 21:03 |
| +perlDreamer | there are also changes to Group | 21:04 |
| @frodwith | well, yes | 21:04 |
| @frodwith | i meant in general | 21:04 |
| +perlDreamer | and the tests, but for a production site you won't need those | 21:04 |
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| @frodwith | that peer fellow is a real /jerk/ | 21:05 |
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| @preaction | just in time | 21:26 |
| CIA-104 | webgui: kimd master * r77e331a / (6 files in 6 dirs): Added more owner information to the gallery (RFE 9774) - http://bit.ly/d0rAdf | 21:26 |
| +perlDreamer | test suite | 21:26 |
| @preaction | ran it | 21:26 |
| kimd | nice | 21:27 |
| kimd | Now that you are both there - may I bug you with questions again? | 21:27 |
| +perlDreamer | sure, but I have to leave for a while | 21:27 |
| +perlDreamer | I'll be back later today | 21:28 |
| +perlDreamer | I think | 21:28 |
| kimd | preaction? | 21:28 |
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| @preaction | what? you haven't asked the question yet | 21:28 |
| kimd | No. Just wanted to check whether you are available :-) | 21:28 |
| kimd | I found out that indexContent does not get executed upon committal when added to Gallery::Asset::File::GalleryFile or Gallery::Asset::File::GalleryFile::Photo. | 21:29 |
| kimd | The last indexContent sub that seems to get executed is that of WebGUI::Asset::File. | 21:29 |
| kimd | Do you have an idea why? | 21:29 |
| @preaction | nope. did you make sure to call the SUPER::indexContent? are you trying in a test script? | 21:32 |
| @preaction | if you're in a test script you can use the Perl debugger to figure thigns out (or you can just litter the place with warn "1", warn "2", warn "3" etc... | 21:33 |
| kimd | I copied the indexContent method of WebGUI::Asset::File, removed the $indexer->addFile call and inserted $indexer->addKeywords("..."); instead. | 21:35 |
| kimd | I am adding the class names as markers in each of the three classes. | 21:36 |
| kimd | I can see the 'WebGUI::Asset::File" appear in index keywords when checking in the database. | 21:36 |
| kimd | That is how I know that the other indexContent methods do not get called. | 21:37 |
| kimd | Strange, isn't it? You would expect that execution would start with the top-level class and then go down all the inheritance tree. | 21:37 |
| kimd | Or do I have the wrong idea of perl OO? | 21:38 |
| @preaction | no, it does top-down, but you're calling the super first, before you add your keywords | 21:38 |
| @preaction | so, WebGUI::Asset::File would appear first (after WebGUI::Asset->indexContent does its thing) | 21:39 |
| kimd | Hah! And that is exactly the reason. indexContent of WebGUI::Asset::File does not return the indexer! You are a genius!! | 21:40 |
| kimd | So, now let's find the culprit. Who wrote WebGUI::Asset::File? | 21:41 |
| @preaction | everyone, it doesn't matter who did it | 21:44 |
| kimd | Just kidding. | 21:44 |
| kimd | Cool! It's really working now. Thanks a lot. | 21:46 |
| kimd | Would it be Ok to fix this bug as part of the patch implementing RFE 11504? | 21:47 |
| @preaction | yes | 21:47 |
| kimd | Or do we need a bug report + separate fix for completeness? | 21:47 |
| kimd | I mean, so that it appears in the log? | 21:47 |
| kimd | Still yes? | 21:47 |
| @preaction | still yes. it's not a problem until you try to add the RFE | 21:47 |
| kimd | I see. Will do it then. | 21:48 |
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| dionak | has anyone seen lauralyn around lately? i have forgotten her irc nick | 22:02 |
| @preaction | elnino | 22:03 |
| dionak | ah, thanks. | 22:03 |
| @preaction | and no, she's been rather absent as of the last few weeks/months | 22:03 |
| dionak | hm. know of any other skilled webgui freelancers? | 22:03 |
| @preaction | perlDreamer, kimd, patspam | 22:05 |
| kimd | here | 22:05 |
| @preaction | otherwise you're pretty limited these days | 22:05 |
| @preaction | of course, we're always available as well | 22:05 |
| @preaction | not sure, kimd do you do webgui professionally or just as a hobby? | 22:05 |
| kimd | ah, I am not a freelance though. | 22:06 |
| kimd | Not enough time. I also would have to ask my employer. | 22:06 |
| kimd | And I do not think that my supervisor would agree. | 22:06 |
| @preaction | perhaps one of the dutch teams would help dionak? | 22:06 |
| kimd | Is it something quick? Would it be of general use? | 22:07 |
| dionak | i'm looking for someone to help develop templates in the near future. nothing immediate | 22:07 |
| dionak | pretty straight-forward | 22:07 |
| kimd | Ok. Sounds like a lot of work. | 22:07 |
| kimd | What about bartjol? Is he still working full-time for procolix? | 22:08 |
| dionak | typically, it's not. we have html for a site and it gets converted into a theme | 22:08 |
| dionak | ok, i'll keep asking around. tks! | 22:08 |
| kimd | You could also ask klaus or martien. They both freelance. | 22:08 |
| dionak | ok, great. | 22:09 |
| kimd | I should have their email addresses. | 22:09 |
| kimd | Wait. I am going to search them for you. | 22:09 |
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| Haarg | preaction, you have a chance to look at my upgrades stuff? | 22:24 |
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| @preaction | Haarg: doing so now | 22:36 |
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| kimd | Is it possible to change the name of form fields via RFEs? Or is that prohibited for reasons of backward compatibility? | 22:49 |
| @preaction | backwards compatibility | 22:49 |
| kimd | Are you correcting my English? Or was that an answer? | 22:49 |
| @preaction | that's the answer | 22:49 |
| kimd | Not possible? | 22:50 |
| kimd | What about WebGUI 8? | 22:50 |
| @preaction | why? | 22:50 |
| kimd | In the Gallery we have form_keywords. But it is "tags" in the templates. | 22:51 |
| kimd | And keywords is misleading since we have keywords in the index as well. | 22:51 |
| @preaction | it will always be called keywords, because the API is called WebGUI::Keyword | 22:51 |
| kimd | Hm. But searching for keywords and searching for tags is not the same thing. | 22:51 |
| kimd | I find that very confusing. | 22:52 |
| kimd | I had to go through the code first before I was able to understand the difference. | 22:52 |
| @preaction | i don't. tags are user-entered keywords | 22:52 |
| @preaction | it's called tags only because that's what Flickr calls them and that's what the client wanted them to be called | 22:52 |
| @preaction | and calling them Tags everywhere conflicts with Version Tags | 22:53 |
| kimd | That's a good point. | 22:53 |
| kimd | What about userKeywords? | 22:53 |
| @preaction | worse | 22:53 |
| kimd | Don't get me wrong. I do not want to change that immediately. | 22:53 |
| kimd | But it would be good to have a distinction between user entered keywords and automatically generated index keywords. | 22:54 |
| kimd | still disagree? | 22:54 |
| @preaction | i don't know of any good alternatives, but i would be open to one if it were found. | 22:56 |
| @preaction | perhaps the problem is that Version Tags are called Version Tags | 22:56 |
| kimd | Hm. I will think about it. | 22:56 |
| kimd | preaction, do you think you can approve this RFE: http://www.webgui.org/rfe/request-for-enhancement/11571 ? | 22:58 |
| @preaction | yes, go ahead, in the manner stated (proceed=editParent) | 22:58 |
| kimd | Into WebGUI::Asset or only WebGUI::Asset::File::GalleryFile::Photo? | 23:00 |
| @preaction | into WebGUI::Asset. you can't easily override www_editSave | 23:00 |
| kimd | Alright. | 23:01 |
| kimd | One last question. Then you will have the rest of the day off :-) | 23:01 |
| kimd | There is no testing code for the Gallery asset. If I add a search feature, does that put me in charge to write it from scratch? | 23:02 |
| kimd | Gallery asset search function, I should say. | 23:02 |
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| @preaction | yes, just get as thorough as you can, doesn't have to be perfect just so long as what you added is tested | 23:03 |
| kimd | Ok. That will delay me a bit. Probably good exercise though. | 23:04 |
| kimd | Enjoy the rest of your day. Good night everyone! | 23:04 |
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| +perlDreamer | I need to head out get the kiddos from school | 00:11 |
| +perlDreamer | be back in 30 | 00:11 |
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| --- Log opened Fri May 21 01:58:33 2010 | ||
| scrottie1 | did you fix this thing I was looking at...? | 01:58 |
| +perlDreamer | were you looking at t/Asset/Wobject/Collaboration/getTemplateVariables.t ? | 01:59 |
| scrottie1 | no, but I haven't stopped to look at that file or pull changes from you to see what you're talking about. | 01:59 |
| +perlDreamer | so, which thing were you looking at? | 02:00 |
| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * rce8b1dc / (2 files in 2 dirs): Remove an old database column from EMS mark 1. - http://bit.ly/axPvzR | 02:01 |
| @scrottie | asset keywords, but you listed a bunch of related things. | 02:01 |
| @scrottie | wasn't sure if that was one of them. | 02:01 |
| +perlDreamer | it isn't | 02:01 |
| @scrottie | just trying to put that statement into context before evaluating it. | 02:02 |
| +perlDreamer | If i came up with an idea related to Keywords, I'd tell you first | 02:02 |
| +perlDreamer | since we talked about it | 02:02 |
| +perlDreamer | especially before committing it | 02:02 |
| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.8 * r545fd1f / (2 files in 2 dirs): Remove an old database column from EMS mark 1. - http://bit.ly/acyHV9 | 02:03 |
| scrottie1 | oh, heck, I can't hear you scrottie. we must be offline. | 02:03 |
| scrottie1 | test? | 02:03 |
| @scrottie | yeah, except I said I was going afk to hide in a dark corner with the book ;) | 02:03 |
| +perlDreamer | not a problem | 02:03 |
| +perlDreamer | I know how to type really loud | 02:04 |
| @scrottie | heh | 02:04 |
| CIA-104 | webgui: Colin Kuskie WebGUI8 * r42015a3 / t/Asset/Wobject/EventManagementSystem.t : Update the test to ignore the old database column, and to add new properties returned by get. - http://bit.ly/dgz6Rf | 02:06 |
| +perlDreamer | 47 failing tests and counting | 02:06 |
| +perlDreamer | time to make dinner | 02:06 |
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| @scrottie | okay, this stuff makes a little more sense now but I need to pick it up tomorrow... stepping out of the house tonight. | 03:08 |
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| SDuensin | Morning. | 17:04 |
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| Haarg | preaction, did you have any comments on the upgrades code? | 19:04 |
| @preaction | not yet, doing so now | 19:07 |
| @preaction | obvious one: documentation | 19:12 |
| Haarg | yeah | 19:12 |
| @preaction | especially answer "why", like "why need the mysql command line and can't use DBI" | 19:13 |
| @preaction | or "why should i use this method" | 19:13 |
| @preaction | do we need rm_lib? should an upgrade script ever delete a perl module? | 19:16 |
| Haarg | they do now | 19:16 |
| @preaction | i just remember back in 7.3 when i didn't delete the old EventsCalendar and it worked, but next version someone did and everything broke | 19:17 |
| @preaction | i mean, we overwrite modules all the time and that's fine, but why remo. | 19:17 |
| @preaction | oh, like Commerce | 19:17 |
| @preaction | which absolutely wouldn't work anymore at all | 19:17 |
| Haarg | it's mainly only a problem because we preload everything. | 19:18 |
| @preaction | which needs to go away | 19:19 |
| Haarg | yeah, the way it is done right now doesn't work out the best | 19:20 |
| Haarg | i wouldn't have a problem with getting rid of rm_lib - i was mainly just looking to add replacements for all of the things people do with current upgrades that are annoying or difficult to do. | 19:29 |
| @preaction | no, i was wrong, it's necessary | 19:30 |
| Haarg | aside from the docs (both for the upgrades api and the upgrade script instructions) is there anything else? | 19:31 |
| @preaction | the WebGUI::Upgrade::File::* don't seem to exist on github | 19:31 |
| @preaction | but i suspect they're just fine too | 19:31 |
| Haarg | http://github.com/haarg/webgui/tree/upgrades/lib/WebGUI/Upgrade/File/ ? | 19:34 |
| Haarg | the other code thing that needs to be dealt with is preloads. need to prevent this stuff from being loaded. | 19:34 |
| @preaction | yeah, i click on those files and they don't load | 19:34 |
| @preaction | "That page doesn't exist!" | 19:34 |
| Haarg | strange | 19:35 |
| Haarg | well, if it isn't obvious, txt and pod will display documentation and want for you to tell it to continue | 19:35 |
| Haarg | sql imports a complete sql script, wgpkg imports a package | 19:36 |
| @preaction | txt/pod will show up for every site? | 19:36 |
| Haarg | no, only once per upgrade | 19:36 |
| Haarg | there's a bit of code in WebGUI::Upgrade to deal with that | 19:37 |
| @preaction | and what about unattended upgrades? is there a flag to bypass them? | 19:37 |
| Haarg | http://gist.github.com/409059 | 19:37 |
| Haarg | if you specify --quiet or if there is no terminal it won't prompt | 19:38 |
| Haarg | having a separate switch for unattended would probably be good as well though | 19:38 |
| Haarg | and possibly something for logging | 19:38 |
| +perlDreamer | yeah, logging! | 19:39 |
| @preaction | perhaps we could always make a var/upgrade.log | 19:39 |
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| Haarg | i kind of love and hate how the upgrade script cleanup works. it functions fine and mostly decouples WebGUI::Upgrade::Script from the rest, but it kind of relies on some non-obvious interactions between the two parts. | 19:45 |
| Trex___ | Hi folks. I'm seeing an odd character encoding behavior that has me really puzzled. The encoding appears to change depending on not only whether I'm logged in or not, but also how I'm viewing a particular asset... | 19:45 |
| Trex___ | I'd be curious what you think of this example: | 19:46 |
| Trex___ | http://www.law.umn.edu/facultyprofiles/grosso.html#dX-lOokEgenQyKYN1zCL_A | 19:46 |
| Trex___ | Note the name at the end of the first citation (under books): Fionnuala Ní Aoláin | 19:46 |
| Trex___ | Now compare that to the article that holds this content, when viewed by itself, without the page layout wrapper: | 19:47 |
| Trex___ | http://www.law.umn.edu/facultyprofiles/grosso-publications.html#dX-lOokEgenQyKYN1zCL_A | 19:47 |
| @preaction | you're running 7.5. there were a lot of fixes to the UTF-8 problems in 7.6 | 19:47 |
| Trex___ | The name here correctly shows as Fionnuala Ní Aoláin --- but the odd thing is that it shows correctly in either case when you are logged in. | 19:47 |
| Trex___ | Heh. Oh? Well, that's good to know. I scanned the changelogs and didn't see anything that looked obvious for my specific problem, but I guess I was being too focused. | 19:48 |
| @preaction | Haarg would know more, he did them | 19:49 |
| @preaction | i still get completely confused by character encoding problems | 19:49 |
| Trex___ | This is pulling data in from a legacy system connected in such a way that it would be pretty painful to test its behavior after upgrading. | 19:49 |
| scrottie1 | umn.edu++ | 19:50 |
| Trex___ | You have an appreciation for the U of MN, scrottie1? | 19:50 |
| @preaction | Trex___: are you using database caching? it's possible the cache table isn't UTF-8? | 19:50 |
| Haarg | cache is all storable | 19:51 |
| Haarg | bytes | 19:51 |
| Haarg | utf8 shouldn't matter on the db side for it | 19:51 |
| Trex___ | I'm not sure what is going on the cache end, but what I do know is that I can edit the citation and the edit will appear immediately, but the encoding issue will remain the same. | 19:51 |
| scrottie1 | Trex___, went to school there, and worked there. | 19:52 |
| +perlDreamer | in the WRE, where does mysql log? | 19:52 |
| scrottie1 | worked in JaWS, back when it was cool ;) | 19:52 |
| Haarg | in the mysql data directory | 19:52 |
| @preaction | perlDreamer: wre/var/mysqldata/`hostname`.err | 19:52 |
| +perlDreamer | err, heh | 19:53 |
| Trex___ | scrottie1: that's cool. :) I'm in the Law School and we pretty much do everything our own way. I've met with other folks recently to talk up WebGUI, but there's a big Drupal community at the U that seems to draw everyone else in. | 19:53 |
| scrottie1 | Trex___, you know David Naughtan in the library dept by any chance? | 19:53 |
| scrottie1 | Trex___, and did you make Frozen Perl, by any other chance? | 19:54 |
| Trex___ | preaction: thanks for the confirmation that there is likely an encoding issue that will likely go away if we ever get upgraded (as I really want). However, in the meantime I have a fix that will convert the special characters to HTML entities, which seems to avoid this problem. | 19:55 |
| Trex___ | I wanted to bring it up here first to see if it was a known issue for our version. | 19:55 |
| Trex___ | scrottie1: I talked with David briefly and we'd talked about starting a Perl group, but it never went anywhere. And sadly no, I didn't make Frozen Perl. | 19:58 |
| scrottie | well, next year, WebGUI lightning talk ;) | 20:00 |
| Trex___ | In addition to occasional hacking at WebGUI, I am responsible for web design, some content management, training content managers, data management in our legacy systems -- I haven't had enough time to spend really getting proficient in Perl. | 20:01 |
| Trex___ | Frozen Perl had a lot of topics that were well above my level of understanding, and it conflicted with something else, so I didn't try terribly hard to make it. | 20:02 |
| scrottie1 | understood. those things are nice sometimes just for the people you meet. | 20:03 |
| Trex___ | Anyhow, I've filled up enough of this channel with chatter. Thanks again, preaction! I now have another reason to upgrade to throw at my colleagues at this afternoon's meeting. | 20:05 |
| scrottie1 | take care! | 20:05 |
| Trex___ | Nice to meet you, scrottie1 -- another WebGUI person with U of MN connections. | 20:07 |
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| dionak | hey tavisto | 22:55 |
| @tavisto | howdy | 22:55 |
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| +perlDreamer | yay, Thingy's not broken | 23:26 |
| +perlDreamer | strottie1: I'm going to do some more WebGUI8 work, continuing on from where I left off yesterday | 23:27 |
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| +perlDreamer | preaction, Haarg: for best practice, are we importing JSON subroutines into a module's namespace? | 23:33 |
| CIA-61 | webgui: Colin Kuskie WebGUI8 * rdab1773 / lib/WebGUI/Asset/Wobject/GalleryAlbum.pm : Change from encode/decode to to/from in JSON, and call them explicitly. Exception handling for AJAX methods in the GalleryAlbum. - http://bit.ly/cK1pYA | 23:38 |
| CIA-61 | webgui: Colin Kuskie WebGUI8 * rc56d2b9 / (3 files in 2 dirs): Fix some Gallery and GalleryAlbum tests. - http://bit.ly/bhKZY1 | 23:38 |
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| CIA-61 | webgui: Colin Kuskie WebGUI8 * r9059cf5 / lib/WebGUI/AssetLineage.pm : Exception handling for finding children in AssetLineage. - http://bit.ly/cEVUWJ | 23:59 |
| CIA-61 | webgui: Colin Kuskie WebGUI8 * rbfbe11a / t/Asset/Wobject/GalleryAlbum/delete.t : Cleanup, exception handling, fresh assets in GalleryAlbum/delete.t - http://bit.ly/a8Ua82 | 23:59 |
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| fokat | Hi | 00:21 |
| fokat | Can someone explain a bit about the changes in the authentication between 7.6 and 7.8? | 00:22 |
| Haarg | perlDreamer, i tend to not import them. i would say either don't import them, or use namespace::(auto)?clean to make sure they don't state in there. | 00:23 |
| Haarg | and all assets have namespace::autoclean used automatically | 00:23 |
| @preaction | fokat: nothing changed in auth | 00:25 |
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| fokat | preaction, I had code that provided a custom authentication method. | 00:37 |
| fokat | Now, it displays two login boxes !? | 00:37 |
| fokat | preaction, it happens when the authentication does not succeed. | 00:40 |
| +perlDreamer | thanks, Haarg | 00:50 |
| +perlDreamer | 43 failing tests | 00:50 |
| +perlDreamer | 6 of those are diagnosed | 00:51 |
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| CIA-61 | webgui: Colin Kuskie WebGUI8 * rbf268bc / lib/WebGUI/Asset/Wobject/Matrix.pm : Fix the canEdit method in the Matrix. - http://bit.ly/9Ntzyd | 01:05 |
| CIA-61 | webgui: Colin Kuskie WebGUI8 * r2aff621 / t/Asset/Wobject/Matrix.t : Cache and data updates for the Matrix test. - http://bit.ly/cYVkjO | 01:05 |
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| * perlDreamer needs to go shopping for dinner | 01:48 | |
| +perlDreamer | any last second questions from the peanut gallery? | 01:48 |
| SDuensin | What's the best way to secure GWT-RPC? | 01:49 |
| SDuensin | No? Go shopping then. :-P | 01:50 |
| SDuensin | :-) | 01:50 |
| scrottie | perlDreamer, why do good things happen to bad people? | 01:52 |
| +perlDreamer | It's due to free will and living in a fallen world, scrottie | 01:55 |
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| CIA-61 | webgui: Colin Kuskie WebGUI8 * r74c6f50 / lib/WebGUI/Definition/Asset.pm : Document init_meta in POD (I hope). - http://bit.ly/9Rodlx | 04:33 |
| CIA-61 | webgui: Colin Kuskie WebGUI8 * ra4dd6f1 / lib/WebGUI/Types.pm : POD for WebGUI::Types - http://bit.ly/aZNStg | 04:39 |
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| Haarg | perlDreamer, i did move things around a little in WebGUI::Upgrade::Script since you initially looked at it and added a few more comments. hopefully it makes a little more sense now. | 04:45 |
| +perlDreamer | Haarg, I trust you, but given the amount of cold medication I'm on I think I'll wait a little bit before deep thought and code analysis | 04:46 |
| Haarg | if there are any particular areas that don't make sense to you, please let me know so i can either clean up the code or at least add comments. the upgrades themselves are pretty straight forward, but i don't want to be the only one who know what it is doing. | 04:47 |
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| +perlDreamer | now I just need to encourage preaction to write POD for the other FormBuilder packages that need it | 04:48 |
| Haarg | no problem. it can wait a while. unless anyone on the boards has a problem with how the upgrade scripts themselves are written, it should be ready to merge as soon as i add POD. | 04:48 |
| Haarg | ready to merge into psgi that is. i really want to get back to hacking on that so it can go into WebGUI8. | 04:49 |
| +perlDreamer | Haarg, knowing why you made the design choices is probably at least as important as how it works | 04:49 |
| +perlDreamer | like, what problems does it solve | 04:49 |
| +perlDreamer | why did you implement it the way you did | 04:49 |
| +perlDreamer | I'm always pestering JT for things like that for really old code | 04:49 |
| +perlDreamer | and he's forgotten | 04:49 |
| Haarg | the main things i wanted to solve with this are: | 04:50 |
| Haarg | separate files for each upgrade step | 04:50 |
| Haarg | less boilerplate | 04:50 |
| Haarg | able to run code before session initialization | 04:50 |
| @preaction | sounds like good stuff to put in the WebGUI::Upgrade docs | 04:51 |
| Haarg | probably | 04:51 |
| +perlDreamer | xdanger is here, so we have a record | 04:51 |
| Haarg | is has no docs right now so i'll try to add and explain that when i write it | 04:51 |
| @preaction | what good is the record if it's not in a place people will look? | 04:52 |
| +perlDreamer | _I_ know where it is | 04:52 |
| +perlDreamer | so now two people know about it | 04:52 |
| +perlDreamer | besides, Haarg will document it up | 04:53 |
| Haarg | preaction, question. something i proposed to perlDreamer a bit back but we didn't come to a firm conclusion. | 04:53 |
| Haarg | what would you think about moving WebGUI::Test from t/lib to lib | 04:54 |
| +perlDreamer | not only WebGUI::Test,, but all its descendants as well | 04:54 |
| Haarg | two main motivations for that | 04:54 |
| Haarg | it first occurred to me as a way to solve the FindBin thing in tests | 04:54 |
| @preaction | that would also not be preloaded. that preloader needs to be changed before moving webgui::test | 04:54 |
| @preaction | that would be nice | 04:55 |
| Haarg | yes | 04:55 |
| Haarg | they could just use WebGUI::Test and it could take care of everything. | 04:55 |
| Haarg | that could alternatively be solved by me writing up a tlib.pm cpan module though | 04:55 |
| Haarg | (or some other name) | 04:55 |
| Haarg | the other reason that i think is actually a better reason is that then third part modules would be able to use WebGUI::Test | 04:56 |
| Haarg | *party | 04:56 |
| +perlDreamer | that's a big reason | 04:56 |
| Haarg | or any of plain black's custom code | 04:56 |
| @preaction | can we say that if you're developing those third-party modules you should have the development version of webgui? | 04:56 |
| +perlDreamer | when we were working on the Blog last year, it was very hard to write tests | 04:56 |
| +perlDreamer | because Blog was in a separate, repo on the side. | 04:56 |
| @preaction | say WebGUI goes to CPAN, you won't install it with tests | 04:56 |
| Haarg | yeah, that's kind of what i'm thinking | 04:57 |
| @preaction | ah, but you'll still want it to test just your plugin | 04:57 |
| @preaction | okay, sounds good | 04:57 |
| Haarg | exactly | 04:57 |
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| elnino | hi!!! | 04:57 |
| Haarg | preloader need to skip WebGUI::Upgrade as well, and WebGUI::Command when i get to that | 04:57 |
| Haarg | so it needs to be solved no matter what | 04:58 |
| Haarg | speaking of which | 04:58 |
| elnino | Hey, is there a way to have two price points for a product, and have a particular use group see only one of them? | 04:58 |
| @preaction | yeah, that's why i want it to stop skipping things and just load all the {assets,macros,activities,account,admin,etc} plugins defined by the config files | 04:58 |
| @preaction | elnino: two products probably. i don't think variants have permissions | 04:58 |
| @preaction | alternatively, give one group a coupon | 04:59 |
| elnino | Ididn't think so either, but didn't know if the new webgui had such thing. | 04:59 |
| elnino | ah. coupon may work. THanks | 04:59 |
| Haarg | we're already loading config stuff immediately, so that's probably a good idea | 04:59 |
| +perlDreamer | new WebGUI only has a new cart | 04:59 |
| +perlDreamer | same old crufty products | 04:59 |
| elnino | lol ok. | 05:00 |
| Haarg | while i'm thinking about it preaction, what would you think if i were to create WebGUI::Site that would have ->config, ->cache, ->db, ->setting, and maybe some other things out of session | 05:01 |
| Haarg | Session could just dispatch to all that stuff | 05:01 |
| @preaction | but then utility scripts can have all that stuff without a "Session" (which really means Request) | 05:02 |
| Haarg | yes | 05:02 |
| @preaction | yeah, go ahead | 05:02 |
| +perlDreamer | I thought that with Plack we didn't care about that so much anymore | 05:02 |
| Haarg | didn't care about what so much? | 05:02 |
| +perlDreamer | about not having a Request | 05:02 |
| +perlDreamer | they were easy to forge, or get | 05:03 |
| Haarg | having a request isn't the problem | 05:03 |
| Haarg | having a session is | 05:03 |
| * perlDreamer asks myopically, what's wrong with having a session? | 05:03 | |
| Haarg | sessions need to connect to the database, need a user, need a bunch of other stuff | 05:03 |
| Haarg | basically, we have no api for accessing the cache or database without being tied to the structure of the userSession table. | 05:04 |
| Haarg | there are other reasons i annoys me, but that's the main thing. for example, if you want to clear the cache via the api, you need to access the userSession database table. | 05:05 |
| Haarg | just doesn't make sense | 05:05 |
| Haarg | anyway, i may or may not create that. we'll see. | 05:08 |
| +perlDreamer | it doesn't sound like a bad idea | 05:08 |
| +perlDreamer | it's just anytime you touch session, you're opening a massive can of worms | 05:08 |
| Haarg | yeah | 05:09 |
| Haarg | i'd also like to moosify WebGUI::Session and merge WebGUI::Session::Var. we do some ugly things in there though which make it tricky. | 05:10 |
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| +perlDreamer | preaction, do you mind if I yard out the extra methods in SyndicatedContent that are marked "deprecated" in the WebGUI8 branch? | 05:11 |
| @preaction | go ahead | 05:12 |
| CIA-61 | webgui: Colin Kuskie WebGUI8 * r3870aea / lib/WebGUI/Asset/Wobject/SyndicatedContent.pm : Remove deprecated methods in SyndicatedContent. - http://bit.ly/aUVhfw | 05:15 |
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| CIA-61 | webgui: Colin Kuskie WebGUI8 * r3faacab / lib/WebGUI/Role/Asset/RssFeed.pm : Change prepareView to use around instead of override, so it can work with packages that also need to wrap prepareView. - http://bit.ly/a9u1vC | 05:26 |
| CIA-61 | webgui: Colin Kuskie WebGUI8 * r0fac757 / lib/WebGUI/Asset/Wobject/SyndicatedContent.pm : Actually build an array of items in getRssFeedItems. Fix several method modifiers. - http://bit.ly/9OHeCf | 05:27 |
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| CIA-61 | webgui: Colin Kuskie WebGUI8 * rd88926c / t/Asset/Wobject/SyndicatedContent.t : Update cache keys for SyndicatedContent in test. - http://bit.ly/bCppiH | 05:44 |
| +perlDreamer | When the test don't work | 05:48 |
| +perlDreamer | and you're in a lurch | 05:48 |
| +perlDreamer | who ya gonna call? | 05:48 |
| +perlDreamer | perlDreamer! | 05:48 |
| CIA-61 | webgui: Colin Kuskie WebGUI8 * rb3a6847 / t/Asset/permissions.t : Prune out duplicate tests. - http://bit.ly/92oRTz | 05:55 |
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| +perlDreamer | scrottie, I fixed some core bugs in WebGUI8. It's a good time to sync up with the main repo | 22:20 |
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| CIA-61 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r4db2408 / (docs/changelog/7.x.x.txt lib/WebGUI/AssetClipboard.pm): Pass duplicate the skipAutoCommitWorkflows switch. Fixes bug #11581. - http://bit.ly/9nKbZS | 22:43 |
| CIA-61 | webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.8 * re82a909 / (docs/changelog/7.x.x.txt lib/WebGUI/AssetClipboard.pm): Pass duplicate the skipAutoCommitWorkflows switch. Fixes bug #11581. - http://bit.ly/cI1rI9 | 22:44 |
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| +perlDreamer | howdy patspam! | 06:29 |
| CIA-61 | webgui: Colin Kuskie WebGUI8 * r5759620 / lib/WebGUI/FilePump/Bundle.pm : Add missing use line for Asset. - http://bit.ly/a873u7 | 06:41 |
| +patspam | hey perlDreamer! | 06:52 |
| +patspam | crazy week | 06:52 |
| +patspam | just to top it all off.. | 06:52 |
| +patspam | ResellerZoom decided to move our shared hosting accounts to a different server.. | 06:52 |
| +patspam | and to achieve that, they mass-renamed all primary DNS A records to the ip address of the new server | 06:53 |
| +patspam | so all the sites that were not actually hosted on RZ, but using their DNS hosting suddenly broke | 06:53 |
| +patspam | and now we have to wait for DNS caching for the problem to go away | 06:53 |
| +patspam | brilliant! | 06:53 |
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| +patspam | signing out, been on computer way to much this week already | 07:00 |
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| CIA-61 | webgui: Colin Kuskie WebGUI8 * rae88345 / lib/WebGUI/Shop/TransactionItem.pm : Revert the sense of the exception handling, to the right state. - http://bit.ly/bj1B5A | 08:28 |
| CIA-61 | webgui: Colin Kuskie WebGUI8 * r095b7c7 / lib/WebGUI/Shop/PayDriver/ITransact.pm : Add missing use lines to ITransact. - http://bit.ly/a64LGf | 08:38 |
| CIA-61 | webgui: Colin Kuskie WebGUI8 * r59f8c0c / t/Shop/PayDriver/ITransact.t : Test cleanups. Drop use_ok, change order of cleanup. - http://bit.ly/dhB9QM | 08:49 |
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| CIA-61 | webgui: khenn master * rb5e2060 / docs/upgrades/upgrade_7.9.5-7.9.6.pl : Added index to inbox_messageState. This table can grow very large on some sites and cause queries to get unread messages to slow down to 3-5 seconds. This index corrects that problem. - http://bit.ly/cCSILK | 16:26 |
| CIA-61 | webgui: khenn master * r82e52fd / lib/WebGUI/Asset/Post.pm : | 18:12 |
| CIA-61 | webgui: Fixed an issue where collaboration systems with file attachments throw an error | 18:12 |
| CIA-61 | webgui: if attachment is not an image or the attachment is an image but doesn't have an | 18:12 |
| CIA-61 | webgui: associated icon. Also removed redundant calls to $storage->isImage and | 18:12 |
| CIA-61 | webgui: $storage->getUrl - http://bit.ly/aTfbzJ | 18:12 |
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| @khenn | does anyone know what calls ajaxGetI18N | 19:17 |
| @khenn | fond it | 19:20 |
| @khenn | found it | 19:20 |
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| CIA-61 | webgui: khenn master * r5692106 / lib/WebGUI/Content/AjaxI18N.pm : | 20:15 |
| CIA-61 | webgui: Added better error handling for JSON parse errors. Scripts don't crash any | 20:15 |
| CIA-61 | webgui: longer when JSON gets a bad parse string. Instead the script receives a valid | 20:15 |
| CIA-61 | webgui: empty response and a warning is thrown to the log containing the JSON string | 20:15 |
| CIA-61 | webgui: passed in as well as the user who tried to execute. - http://bit.ly/cFKIr6 | 20:15 |
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| CIA-61 | webgui: Colin Kuskie WebGUI8 * r51827b9 / t/Shop/ShipDriver/UPS.t : Fix the UPS test. - http://bit.ly/bJaIN3 | 01:37 |
| CIA-61 | webgui: Colin Kuskie WebGUI8 * r9a2b3bf / t/Shop/ShipDriver/USPS.t : Update another test. - http://bit.ly/9iZTIS | 01:40 |
| CIA-61 | webgui: Colin Kuskie WebGUI8 * ra95ebdf / (2 files in 2 dirs): Fix these tests. They no longer die. - http://bit.ly/9co98k | 01:54 |
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| CIA-61 | webgui: Colin Kuskie WebGUI8 * r89302e9 / (lib/WebGUI/Asset/Sku.pm t/Asset/Sku.t): Fix taxConfiguration property for the Sku asset. - http://bit.ly/cpj9EM | 02:34 |
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| @scrottie | perldreamer, you are a fiend. | 02:35 |
| CIA-61 | webgui: Colin Kuskie WebGUI8 * rd3d0e03 / t/Shop/TaxDriver/Generic.t : Remove some unneeded declared variables. - http://bit.ly/drEzi0 | 02:35 |
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| CIA-61 | webgui: Colin Kuskie WebGUI8 * re4445a2 / t/Asset/permissions.t : Need an asset in order to check canAdd - http://bit.ly/9lgESJ | 03:59 |
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| CIA-61 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * rca1f5e1 / lib/WebGUI/Workflow/Activity/ArchiveOldStories.pm : ArchiveOldStories activity has to obey the TTL for activities. - http://bit.ly/96Hzsk | 05:04 |
| CIA-61 | webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.8 * rfaf9317 / lib/WebGUI/Workflow/Activity/ArchiveOldStories.pm : ArchiveOldStories activity has to obey the TTL for activities. - http://bit.ly/cbQnBy | 05:07 |
| CIA-61 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * rac3255e / (3 files): More workflows that need to obey the TTL. - http://bit.ly/azVWnR | 05:13 |
| +perlDreamer | time to watch lost | 06:29 |
| +perlDreamer | later, guys | 06:29 |
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| SDuensin | Good morning. (And for LOST fans, WTF!?) | 16:46 |
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| @preaction | good morning vietnam! | 18:15 |
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| +perlDreamer | morning, folks | 18:20 |
| @preaction | good morning perlDreamer! have pleasant dreamering? | 18:22 |
| +perlDreamer | suffering from post-cold and -lost letdown | 18:22 |
| SDuensin | The more I think about LOST, the more I think I like the ending. | 18:23 |
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| CIA-61 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r16927cd / (3 files in 3 dirs): Make tokens and the EMS obey the token's view permissions. Fixes bug #11583 - http://bit.ly/ceINPe | 19:24 |
| CIA-61 | webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.8 * ree50009 / (3 files in 3 dirs): Make tokens and the EMS obey the token's view permissions. Fixes bug #11583 - http://bit.ly/9hMgOj | 19:24 |
| @frodwith | The more people talk about Lost, the more strangely smug I get for not knowing anything about it. | 19:25 |
| +perlDreamer | It's like Harry Potter. | 19:27 |
| +perlDreamer | They were able to create a scenario with characters that people liked | 19:28 |
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| +perlDreamer | I gotta take a break, bbiaw | 20:18 |
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| @preaction | only in the PHP world is "open file, change line X to Y" a valid "plugin" architecture... | 20:48 |
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| +perlDreamer | yeah, at the very least you could use the file and override the code in question with a subroutine glob reference. | 21:05 |
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| CIA-59 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r760abaf / (docs/changelog/7.x.x.txt lib/WebGUI/Shop/Cart.pm): Put back a www_checkout method, to be used by the Payment plugin when displaying upstream errors. Fixes bug #11584. - http://bit.ly/cxTcAm | 21:06 |
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| CIA-59 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r5075e4f / (docs/changelog/7.x.x.txt www/extras/emailCheck.js): Add mobi TLD to list of valid parts of an email. Fixes bug #11582. - http://bit.ly/bm7903 | 21:18 |
| CIA-59 | webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.8 * r7e53401 / (docs/changelog/7.x.x.txt www/extras/emailCheck.js): Add mobi TLD to list of valid parts of an email. Fixes bug #11582. - http://bit.ly/9bDlTX | 21:19 |
| @preaction | that's the wrong solution :p | 21:20 |
| @preaction | the correct solution is rm -rf www/extras/emailCheck.js | 21:20 |
| scrottie1 | I have in the past attempted an MX check on the domain... | 21:20 |
| @preaction | how well didn't that work? | 21:21 |
| +perlDreamer | preaction, are you serious? | 21:22 |
| scrottie1 | hmm. hard data is lacking. I got far more complaints about graphic design. | 21:22 |
| @preaction | i've always been serious of getting rid of that damned JS check for e-mail "correctness" | 21:22 |
| scrottie1 | MX check on the domain part is far safer than actually trying to talk to an SMTP server and except any sort of sanity there. | 21:22 |
| * perlDreamer salutes, and unpacks git rm | 21:23 | |
| scrottie1 | that could be tricky in JS though ;) | 21:23 |
| @preaction | there will be another bug opened later when .home is added, and .name, and .cool, and .port, and .look, and .plan, and .etc and .ihaveanawesometldandyoudontneenerneenerneener | 21:23 |
| +perlDreamer | s/ner$/nerbooboo/; | 21:24 |
| @preaction | the rule i've always heard is: If you want to know if an e-mail address is valid, send an e-mail to it. | 21:24 |
| +perlDreamer | we could do that via AJAX... | 21:24 |
| +perlDreamer | but it would take a while to validate | 21:24 |
| scrottie1 | an MX check is essentially 1/10th of that. | 21:24 |
| +perlDreamer | and there would be false negatives due to server and routing problems | 21:24 |
| scrottie1 | hmm. except it wouldn't work for UUCP email addresses. | 21:25 |
| scrottie1 | less likely to have a false negative on an MX check than on trying to send an email. | 21:25 |
| +perlDreamer | scrottie1, I was referring to the end to end method of validating the email address | 21:25 |
| +perlDreamer | not knocking your solution at all | 21:25 |
| scrottie1 | ah. | 21:25 |
| @preaction | eh, either way, we just keep fixing this until i get fed up and rip it out and accept anything minorly resembling an email address [^@]+@[^@]+ | 21:26 |
| +perlDreamer | It's gone. | 21:26 |
| scrottie1 | well, my point was that it's a hard problem, not that MX check is a good idea. | 21:26 |
| scrottie1 | to be serious about it, you have to be very silly. | 21:26 |
| CIA-59 | webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.8 * r1dd12c6 / (3 files in 3 dirs): Remove the javascript check for email addresses. - http://bit.ly/di9eKh | 21:27 |
| * preaction wonders idly how long until someone complains about there being no pre-check anymore | 21:27 | |
| * perlDreamer points the finger at preaction, but remembers that git blame tells all | 21:28 | |
| scrottie1 | alternatively, you could whois lookup the domain, find the tech contact phone number, call it using Asterisk and ask whatever answers to press 1 if the email address is valid and 2 if it ain't. | 21:28 |
| @preaction | scrottie1: wow, i just stopped caring entirely ;) | 21:29 |
| scrottie1 | I have that effect. | 21:29 |
| +perlDreamer | that would require every webgui site to have its own Asterisk server | 21:29 |
| +perlDreamer | which sounds like a business opportunity for someone... | 21:29 |
| @preaction | or buy our PB-hosted Asterisk server! | 21:29 |
| scrottie1 | and probably a bodyguard too to deal with angry admins who got phone calls at 2am =) | 21:29 |
| CIA-59 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * rc668232 / (3 files in 3 dirs): Remove the javascript check for email addresses. - http://bit.ly/cBlqRA | 21:29 |
| @preaction | pfft, then they shouldn't be "Administrative Contact" | 21:30 |
| +perlDreamer | yeah, it should be "Daytime Administrative Contact" | 21:30 |
| scrottie1 | I always do this when I have too much coffee... start trolling. I better shut up and go back to perl -d now. | 21:31 |
| @preaction | Radix_: you around? mind if I fix some things with the zenlike template? | 21:39 |
| @preaction | also mind if I add it to WebGUI? | 21:40 |
| +perlDreamer | preaction, he's on Australia time | 21:42 |
| +perlDreamer | might be faster to email him | 21:43 |
| +perlDreamer | also, I tested zenlike last night | 21:43 |
| @preaction | yeah, just figured he might be here | 21:43 |
| +perlDreamer | and it works on 7.8 and 7.9 with no changes to the admin css, as originally suggested | 21:43 |
| @preaction | i had an issue with the navigation assetproxy not working correctly | 21:43 |
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| +patspam | dang seems like it's a bad idea to use user profile fields to store internal (custom code) user data | 22:29 |
| +patspam | in particular, if you're storing a Group that has showInForms=0 | 22:31 |
| +patspam | because every time you hit Save on the editUser form, you'll accidentally overwrite that groupId field with the first showInForms=1 group in the list | 22:33 |
| +perlDreamer | that's a core bug, patspam | 22:35 |
| +perlDreamer | Groups shouldn't do that | 22:35 |
| +perlDreamer | well.... | 22:35 |
| +perlDreamer | except that there's no way for them to pick that in the first place | 22:35 |
| +perlDreamer | since it has showInForms=0 | 22:36 |
| +patspam | yeah, the field is supposed to only be modified from custom code | 22:36 |
| +perlDreamer | isn't there a general purpose GUID field to use for that kind of thing? | 22:36 |
| +patspam | oh, nice quick solution! | 22:36 |
| +perlDreamer | yeah, use Form/Guid for the profile field | 22:36 |
| +patspam | perlDreamer++ | 22:37 |
| +perlDreamer | unfortunately, that won't help you recover your lost groups :/ | 22:37 |
| +perlDreamer | but it ought to be worth a quick blog posting | 22:38 |
| +perlDreamer | i had a good one last night | 22:38 |
| +patspam | the form system should do something to warn you if you ever render a Group picker where the current value is a showInForms=0 group | 22:38 |
| +perlDreamer | that's very doable | 22:38 |
| +perlDreamer | since we use namespace::autoclean everywhere now, lots of modules have broken | 22:39 |
| +perlDreamer | since they'd accidently inherit methods and namespaces for other modules | 22:39 |
| +patspam | and similarly, if you ever render another sort of picker (such as a Template picker) where the current value does not match a valid option (for example when the template doesn't exist) | 22:39 |
| +perlDreamer | well, turns out that you can get to LWP::UserAgent and Http::Response somehow, without using them | 22:39 |
| +perlDreamer | you can build objects with them, too | 22:39 |
| +patspam | that's another case where hitting save will overwrite the value to something else without you realising | 22:40 |
| +perlDreamer | but if you submit a request, it returns undef | 22:40 |
| +perlDreamer | then you can spend about an hour reading the docs, only to find that $agent->request NEVER returns undef | 22:40 |
| +perlDreamer | patspam, in their profile, is the Form visible to the user? | 22:43 |
| +patspam | no, just to admins | 22:43 |
| +patspam | doesn't seem to be a way to stop admins from seeing every field | 22:44 |
| +perlDreamer | no | 22:44 |
| +patspam | it'd be nice if you could set that, so that you can (ab)use user profile fields for purely internal stuff | 22:44 |
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| +patspam | perlDreamer: http://www.webgui.org/rfe/request-for-enhancement/11586 | 23:48 |
| ckotil | oh , ive noticed that too | 23:51 |
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| +perlDreamer | patspam, did you have the time to fix the Outlook email footer issue, or were you DNS'ed to death? | 00:59 |
| +patspam | haven't done it yet, waiting to see if I can get a client to pay for it | 00:59 |
| * perlDreamer is out to pick up the kiddos | 01:24 | |
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| +perlDreamer | patspam is having much, much more fun than perlDreamer | 02:29 |
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| +Radix_ | preaction: you're welcome to use zenlike however you like :) | 03:35 |
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| CIA-59 | webgui: Paul Driver master * ra78a9c8 / www/extras/shop/cart.js : couple of js bugs in cart in the no shipping case - http://bit.ly/bqe247 | 19:01 |
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| CIA-59 | webgui: Paul Driver master * ra6db821 / www/extras/shop/cart.js : IE8 cart js fixes (IE stringifies null as "null" instead of "") - http://bit.ly/djMOX6 | 19:28 |
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| @khenn | does anyone know a way to silence performance indicators ala WebGUI::Session::ErrorHandler::preventDebugOutput ? | 20:57 |
| @khenn | it seems that $ErrorHandler->{_preventDebugOutput} should also silence performance indicators | 20:57 |
| @khenn | but it does nto | 20:57 |
| @khenn | never mind, it doesn't work since Layout has a different instance of the ErrorHandler apparently | 20:59 |
| @preaction | khenn: check the canShowPerformanceIndicators sub, i think i put a flag in there because I was getting annoyed at something | 20:59 |
| @preaction | and that shouldn't happen, the different instance | 21:00 |
| @khenn | the 7.9 core doesn't have it in there but let me double check | 21:00 |
| @preaction | nm then. maybe it was the debug output | 21:00 |
| @khenn | yeah debug output is silenced | 21:06 |
| @khenn | but even if I add the code to performance indicators they still are output | 21:06 |
| @khenn | so the only conclusion is that Layout has a different instance of the error handler | 21:06 |
| @khenn | I'll see if I can figure it out | 21:07 |
| @preaction | no, canShowPerformanceIndicators is not dependent on canShowDebug at all | 21:07 |
| @preaction | you'd have to add that feature | 21:07 |
| @khenn | right | 21:11 |
| @khenn | what I'm saying is that adding: return 0 if $self->{_preventDebugOutput}; to canShowPerformancIndicators doesn't work the same way it does in canShowDebug for some reason | 21:12 |
| @khenn | it silences the debug output | 21:12 |
| @khenn | but not the performance indicators | 21:12 |
| @khenn | still working on it ... | 21:12 |
| @khenn | looks like it's AssetProxy doing it | 21:15 |
| @frodwith | when is it -not- assetproxy | 21:16 |
| @khenn | well I'm not positive yet | 21:16 |
| @khenn | because debug is still not going out | 21:16 |
| @khenn | no, it's coming from WebGUI::Content::Asset | 21:18 |
| @khenn | the handler is checking $errorHandler->canShowPerformanceIndicators before it hits my code to change it | 21:20 |
| @khenn | and thus the riddle is solved | 21:20 |
| @khenn | ah I figured it out | 21:27 |
| @khenn | I didn't have the right mime type set | 21:27 |
| @khenn | changed mime type to application/json and performance handlers went away | 21:27 |
| CIA-59 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r7a1487b / (5 files in 4 dirs): Added GUID and pubDate entries to Stories. Updated tests. Fixes bug #11580 - http://bit.ly/bxDkT3 | 21:43 |
| CIA-59 | webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.8 * r4006b20 / (5 files in 4 dirs): Added GUID and pubDate entries to Stories. Updated tests. Fixes bug #11580 - http://bit.ly/dzpTmK | 21:43 |
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| CIA-59 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r9cfcf84 / (docs/changelog/7.x.x.txt lib/WebGUI/Asset/Wobject/Thingy.pm): Handle the edge case where no fields are to be returned in a Thingy search. Fixes bug #11587 - http://bit.ly/cCjR2K | 22:03 |
| CIA-59 | webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.8 * rf432ace / (docs/changelog/7.x.x.txt lib/WebGUI/Asset/Wobject/Thingy.pm): Handle the edge case where no fields are to be returned in a Thingy search. Fixes bug #11587 - http://bit.ly/a4SagV | 22:03 |
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| CIA-59 | webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.8 * r517db54 / (4 files in 4 dirs): Remove HTML from SC sentences and words template variables, and any initial whitespace. Fixes bug #11589. - http://bit.ly/bwY1nF | 22:40 |
| CIA-59 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * rab0204d / (4 files in 4 dirs): Remove HTML from SC sentences and words template variables, and any initial whitespace. Fixes bug #11589. - http://bit.ly/aPmbdR | 22:41 |
| +perlDreamer | lunch time! | 22:46 |
| kimd | Guten Appetit! | 22:47 |
| +perlDreamer | Vielen danks | 22:47 |
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| CIA-59 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * rc2e6978 / (4 files in 4 dirs): Add a template variable for the current language, for better user feedback. Fixes bug #11573. - http://bit.ly/bIjSxq | 00:15 |
| CIA-59 | webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.8 * r523a6ab / (4 files in 4 dirs): Add a template variable for the current language, for better user feedback. Fixes bug #11573. - http://bit.ly/bTyh6p | 00:15 |
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| CIA-59 | webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.8 * r5565ed8 / lib/WebGUI/Help/Macro_PickLanguage.pm : Missed the template variable help for language_isCurrent. - http://bit.ly/ajcIpJ | 00:39 |
| CIA-59 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * rad4604e / lib/WebGUI/Help/Macro_PickLanguage.pm : Missed the template variable help for language_isCurrent. - http://bit.ly/dbwYST | 00:39 |
| @preaction | perlDreamer: is it 7.8 day? | 01:07 |
| +perlDreamer | today is 7.8 day | 01:11 |
| +perlDreamer | preaction, do you have Leopard? | 01:11 |
| @preaction | snow leopard | 01:12 |
| +perlDreamer | is that different than what serif says in this bug: http://www.webgui.org/use/bugs/tracker/11548 | 01:12 |
| @preaction | i've seen that bug, but only in safari 3 | 01:13 |
| @preaction | or 2, whatever that one was | 01:13 |
| +perlDreamer | I've stopped hating TinyMCE | 01:15 |
| +perlDreamer | I'm now convinced that any kind of JS based wysiwig editor is evil and wrong | 01:15 |
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| mducharme | hrm | 02:50 |
| mducharme | this hotel I am going to be staying at offers "complimentary wife for Internet access" | 02:50 |
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| CIA-59 | webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.8 * r4c05bcd / t/Asset/Wobject/StoryArchive.t : Robustify a test for boolean-ness. - http://bit.ly/c5Fucn | 05:41 |
| CIA-59 | webgui: Doug Bell webgui-7.8 * r032f03e / docs/create.sql : preparing for 7.8.20 release - http://bit.ly/aRHGob | 06:09 |
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| CIA-59 | webgui: Doug Bell webgui-7.8 * rb7465e7 / (4 files in 4 dirs): preparing for 7.8.21 dev - http://bit.ly/byR5Of | 06:59 |
| CIA-59 | webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.8 * r472eeb4 / t/Asset/Template.t : Save a second in the Template test. - http://bit.ly/dvqRRJ | 07:02 |
| CIA-59 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r5b3103e / t/Asset/Template.t : Save a second in the Template test. - http://bit.ly/cx4z6V | 07:03 |
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| @scrottie | oh, fun. I just discovered this 'property' stuff. I've followed this code through inheritance, then mixins, and then mixins that mixin other mixins, and now I'm tracing it through extensions to Moose. | 13:03 |
| @scrottie | and now I finally see what you mean. | 13:04 |
| Haarg | what stuff are you working on? | 13:04 |
| @scrottie | you were suggesting another round of mixins as a plugin mechanism for additional behavior to hook into non "property" stuff that should get accessors called when update() runs. | 13:05 |
| @scrottie | Haarg, assets with keywords provided to their constructors weren't getting the keywords initialized or the keywords stuffed in assetKeywords table | 13:06 |
| Haarg | ah | 13:07 |
| @scrottie | Moose is syntax sugar. it cleans up syntax. it does not clean up designs. | 13:07 |
| Haarg | yeah | 13:07 |
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| SDuensin | Morning. | 16:07 |
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| dionak | does anyone have elnino's contact info? | 17:13 |
| +bartjol | nope | 17:27 |
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| +bartjol | not in bug tracker mails? | 17:27 |
| +bartjol | but I cleaned up quite recently | 17:28 |
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| +perlDreamer | morning, folks! | 18:09 |
| @preaction | morning! | 18:12 |
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| +patspam | morning! | 18:20 |
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| SDuensin | Any SQL experts alive today? | 18:44 |
| SDuensin | (And in here!) | 18:44 |
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| +perlDreamer | SDuensin, ask away. Perhaps one of us inexperts can help | 18:44 |
| SDuensin | Imagine if you will, two tables. One holds details about an image, the other a list of tags associated with it. I need to locate images based on a subset of tags assigned to them... | 18:45 |
| SDuensin | I found this (the first answer): http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2000567/sql-n-to-n-matching-multiple-values | 18:45 |
| SDuensin | Is that a Good Idea(tm) or do you know better? | 18:45 |
| +perlDreamer | SDuensin, that sounds exactly like a full text search | 18:47 |
| +perlDreamer | but that means building a 3rd table... | 18:47 |
| SDuensin | And then I went and made it worse - I also have "not tags" where if an image has such a thing, it should NOT be included. | 18:47 |
| Haarg | the first answer in that link is what i initially thought of | 18:48 |
| SDuensin | I thought of my brain exploding. | 18:48 |
| * SDuensin is weak in the SQL. | 18:48 | |
| +perlDreamer | but the multiple self-join's not going to be very fast | 18:48 |
| +perlDreamer | maybe it can't be helped | 18:48 |
| Haarg | the first answer, not the initial post | 18:49 |
| Haarg | only one join | 18:49 |
| * SDuensin sees two? | 18:49 | |
| Haarg | err, well i guess | 18:49 |
| Haarg | depends on what your db layout is exactly | 18:50 |
| Haarg | so probably two joins | 18:50 |
| Haarg | but it would be fixed at two, not depending on the number of tags | 18:50 |
| SDuensin | Two tables. Master has the general details about the image, detail has the tags and an id back to the master. | 18:50 |
| Haarg | ok, so only one join. in the first answer there, the tags have their own table. | 18:51 |
| SDuensin | Can I add a "AND tags.tag NOT IN (@badTag1, @badTag2)" ? | 18:52 |
| Haarg | to that? not easily. | 18:53 |
| SDuensin | Arrgh. | 18:53 |
| Haarg | for that a text index is probably the way to go | 18:54 |
| SDuensin | So, I guess "NOT IN" isn't valid then? Or what's the issue with it? | 19:00 |
| Haarg | essentially, that first answer is generating one row for each tag that it finds that matches what you asked for, then making sure that it found the same number of matches for a given image as the number of tags you asked for. there isn't really a way to fit a 'not in' with that type of selection. it would have to be done with an additional join. | 19:03 |
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| SDuensin | OK, so basically, I'd have to do the same query across the "not tags" and then eliminate those results from the first list. | 19:05 |
| * SDuensin is wondering if this is all a really bad idea. | 19:05 | |
| * patspam wanders off for lunch | 19:10 | |
| ckotil | any idea where the hundreds of .json files come from? e.g. http://www.pastebin.org/283611 | 19:43 |
| ckotil | i think i see a lineage in the filename. | 19:43 |
| ckotil | found it searching for the lineage in assetIndex. | 19:46 |
| @preaction | that is a package in the middle of being extracted | 19:47 |
| @preaction | if something fails, they remain | 19:47 |
| ckotil | ok, it ended up being a wiki article | 19:47 |
| ckotil | i only noticed it because amanda backup showed the file as disappearing when i tried to back it up | 19:48 |
| @preaction | temp storage is cleaned up every 24 hrs. | 19:48 |
| ckotil | yeah the initial request to gather the list of files to backup happens early in the evening, then backups occur after midnight generally. | 19:49 |
| ckotil | so in between that time, the files were purged. no big deal , i was just wondering what was happening. | 19:50 |
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| +perlDreamer | the depths of my own stupidity and ignorance never cease to amaze me | 20:44 |
| +perlDreamer | uh, for those of you who depend on my code, that just means I missed something really, really obvious | 20:45 |
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| @bopbop | perldream or preaction: do you remember a bug in 7.6 that involved the crumbtrail nav in the asset manager-- if you clicked on the current location in the crumbtrail a little menu popped open; however, you can't close it unless you select something, and if you click on the page title in the crumbtrail again the menu keeps duplicating itself? | 21:03 |
| @bopbop | sorry, that should be perldreamER | 21:03 |
| @bopbop | I tried to search the bug boards | 21:04 |
| @bopbop | but that brought up a separate issue : / | 21:04 |
| +perlDreamer | bopbop, I do remember that | 21:04 |
| +perlDreamer | it was fixed | 21:04 |
| +perlDreamer | what was it.... | 21:04 |
| @bopbop | search pagination broke again | 21:04 |
| @bopbop | I posted it | 21:04 |
| +perlDreamer | Do you need a hard reference for the crumb trail issue? | 21:06 |
| +perlDreamer | like a bug number, or git commit? | 21:07 |
| +perlDreamer | or the version it was fixed in? | 21:07 |
| ckotil | heh, yeah we noticed that bug in 7.6.35. | 21:07 |
| ckotil | it's fixed in 7.8.20 | 21:08 |
| @bopbop | ok-- it's on a client's site that I noticed it, but I don't know if they have plans of upgrading any time soon | 21:09 |
| @bopbop | could they patch? (not sure how that works :) ) | 21:09 |
| +perlDreamer | they have to have a phone contract or rockstar for us patching | 21:10 |
| @bopbop | they are | 21:10 |
| +perlDreamer | in that case, I'll take a few minutes to track it down | 21:10 |
| @bopbop | I'll post the bug to them and let them take it from there | 21:11 |
| @bopbop | don't track anything down yet | 21:11 |
| +perlDreamer | too late | 21:11 |
| +perlDreamer | for reference, bug #11080 | 21:11 |
| +perlDreamer | released in 7.8.2 | 21:12 |
| ckotil | and 7.7.22 stable | 21:12 |
| +perlDreamer | it's a JS only fix, so it would be very easy to backport | 21:13 |
| +perlDreamer | git commit #27dc7731391a974090bc59483abd74c58e314764 | 21:13 |
| @bopbop | ok- I'll pass that along | 21:13 |
| +perlDreamer | re search pagination in the bug tracker, our best and brightest minds are currently working on it | 21:14 |
| +perlDreamer | the good news is that when it's fixed, the bug list shrinks by like 40-50% | 21:15 |
| ckotil | heh | 21:15 |
| +perlDreamer | I don't there there are more than a handful of actual WebGUI core bugs in there | 21:15 |
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| @scrottie | arooo! this Qwest tech is a bull in a china shop. she's unplugged the cluster, quit a browser, and worst of all, tried to touch my Linux machine. | 21:37 |
| * perlDreamer recommends a fire place poker | 21:38 | |
| @scrottie | after she has gone and I've restarted all of my machines, perlDreamer, I'd like to talk a bit about all of these roles, roles that pull in other roles, and meta object extensions and so on that you're building here. | 21:42 |
| +perlDreamer | okay | 21:42 |
| +perlDreamer | I'm a little in and out this afternoon, so the conversation will be a bit spotty | 21:43 |
| @scrottie | I *think* I understand what's going on now and why you were suggesting another role overriding set/update but maybe not. | 21:43 |
| @scrottie | or tomorrow. | 21:43 |
| +perlDreamer | let's try today, and we can do more tomorrow if necessary | 21:43 |
| +perlDreamer | but you'll have steady bits, yeah? | 21:44 |
| @scrottie | hrm. I wouldn't put money on it. | 21:44 |
| @scrottie | does DirectTV still do Internet? I think I need to cover all of the bases here... cell, DSL, cable, satellite, dialup... | 21:45 |
| * perlDreamer heads off for some lunch and a walk | 21:50 | |
| @scrottie | ha! she ruled out premise wiring. signal to the demark was poor. signal to the neighborhood box was poor. they have to tear up the major road I'm near and run new lines from the exchange to fix it. she couldn't find another better pair and it sounds like they've been heavily picked over for some time for a workable pair. | 22:23 |
| @scrottie | I'm the jerk who is going to cause road construction it sounds like. | 22:23 |
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| Haarg | scrottie, i wrote all of the base code for Definition and i'll help out with fixing stuff in it. | 22:41 |
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| @scrottie | this seems like a prime case where a regular inheritance hierachy would win out over roles in terms of being easy to follow and amount of code. I'm seeing things being wrapped multiple times in cases where ->SUPER calls seem cleaner to me. | 22:44 |
| @scrottie | my stack trace here from the creation of the asset is ten call levels deep. | 22:45 |
| @scrottie | so, very broadly, I'm wondering what I'm missing and if I'm oversimplifying in my mind. | 22:46 |
| @scrottie | that Moose is being used to create a plug-in system with 'properties' using Meta and that that in itself needs a meta-meta plugin system (for other things that need automatically setting than 'properties') horrifies me, frankly. | 22:47 |
| @scrottie | there's no hatred for these kinds of construct in Moose because we haven't yet had to maintain them five years after the fact, in a patched and re-patched form, but this strikes me as exactly the kind of code that, five or ten years down the road, would give Moose a bad name and no longer be accepted. | 22:47 |
| @scrottie | but I could be wrong =) | 22:48 |
| @scrottie | (please excuse my opinions; while strong, they do sway) | 22:48 |
| @scrottie | I need to get some food and noon coffee here now that the Qwest bull is done breaking my stuff. | 22:48 |
| @preaction | i've wondered the same points, but for now i'm giving the benefit of the doubt. it may be my undoing, but we're not doing the 5-year major version cycle. we're not writing shit in stone anymore | 22:49 |
| @scrottie | she rolled my desk chair over my switch. the wheels broke off long ago. I'm not sure how she even got it to roll. | 22:49 |
| @scrottie | she's strong. | 22:49 |
| @scrottie | understood. | 22:49 |
| @scrottie | I can accept that. | 22:49 |
| @scrottie | I have a fault of being too eager to rework things, before understanding all of the implications. the best outcome here is that this is considered an ongoing point of examination and that I *don't* start reworking things half arsedly. | 22:49 |
| @preaction | and if we do have problems with complexity, we're building in ways to have side-by-side APIs (so old code works while new is developed) | 22:50 |
| @scrottie | that's something that itself needs to be done with moderation. I've seen codebases with three object models trying to exist side by side, and three major takes on the APIs existing side by side. that's a cure that can be worse than the disease. | 22:50 |
| @preaction | because we have made these mistakes in the past, the new Shop API vs. the old Commerce. the current Auth API. the old Asset API vs. the new 8 Asset API, etc... | 22:50 |
| @preaction | yes, i agree. we won't Maintain two APIs, but we'll let the end-user run them both to support legacy code | 22:51 |
| @scrottie | no adding a third major X without removing one of the old ones first or else bed and no dinner. | 22:51 |
| @preaction | that's been drilled in my head by JT, no duplication of our efforts. you can run the old stuff if you can't afford to migrate, but it's your own head (or pay us to fix things, we won't do it free) | 22:52 |
| * scrottie kicks that around in its head | 22:53 | |
| Haarg | basically, the definition code is intended to replace the old definition system which had a lot of problems. most of what it does is to define attributes that have some specific traits included. and then it provides a way to get a list of the attributes that include those traits. | 22:54 |
| @scrottie | active development on two branches is labor intensive. | 22:54 |
| @scrottie | especially when you're trying to manage and merge fixes between them. | 22:54 |
| @preaction | but also, the new definition is still based on the old assumptions, it's not a complete break from the old system (which would be much cleaner to make) | 22:54 |
| Haarg | yeah | 22:54 |
| @scrottie | Haarg, yeah, I see. | 22:54 |
| Haarg | part of what the new definition code does would be better by moving all of our form/type code to be moose based | 22:55 |
| @scrottie | my view of the code is pretty myopic still but this get/set/update system seems pretty universal throughout the code. if everything is using it, I'd really like to see stuck somewhere high in the inheritance heirachy rather than being repeatedly wrapped. | 22:59 |
| @scrottie | if it's wrapped twice now (I _think_), the proposed solution of wrapping WG::Asset::Snippet's version yet again, and quite likely down the road another subclass or higher level class having to wrap it again... that takes something simple and easy to follow (inheritance) and turns it into a circus. | 23:00 |
| @scrottie | moving things to assets and inventing "properties"... okay... using function replacement (albiet under the hood) to re-invent inheritance... less good. | 23:01 |
| @scrottie | oh well. I better drink coffee, shut up, and let this stew some more. | 23:02 |
| Haarg | what function replacement do you mean? | 23:03 |
| @scrottie | Haarg, also, don't mean to give you a hard time for the design. no one ever does anything signficant in any ideal manner the first time. all of this is iterative. | 23:03 |
| @scrottie | around, Roles | 23:04 |
| Haarg | oh yeah, it definitely isn't perfect | 23:04 |
| @scrottie | I also don't mean to imply that I could have done any better ;) | 23:04 |
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| Haarg | the main reason set/get/update stuff is in a role is because definition was intended to be usable outside of assets | 23:04 |
| Haarg | as it is it wouldn't be a significant change to just stick it directly in WebGUI::Asset | 23:05 |
| @scrottie | yeah. and that's fine as long as things don't need specialized versions of it, more than once down the class tree. | 23:05 |
| @scrottie | not sure how anomolys this WG::Asset::Snippet class is in that regard or if super/sub classes in the future are going to need specialized versions of that again. I might be imaginating that out of paranoia. | 23:07 |
| @scrottie | far more in general, I have the concern that it can take more time to read code that someone else wrote than to write it. smart people being clever can easily leave me in the comprehension dust. | 23:09 |
| * perlDreamer is back | 23:09 | |
| Haarg | what kind of specialization are you meaning for snippet? | 23:10 |
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| @scrottie | its version of set needs to handle the keywords initialization parameter and call the non "property" attribute keywords. perhaps keywords should just be modified to be a "property". I have a lot of questions I still need to answer for myself here. | 23:11 |
| @scrottie | (or shake down someone else for answers on) | 23:11 |
| Haarg | hmm | 23:12 |
| @scrottie | I don't know if there's anything else like keywords in that regard. perhaps that's what you're refering to when you say that using Moose for more of those would help fix this. | 23:12 |
| @scrottie | perlDreamer suggested when I first talked to him about this that perhaps "we make Keywords a Role, that overrides get and update" ... "overrides/wraps" | 23:13 |
| Haarg | unless i'm missing something, snippet shouldn't handle keywords any different from any other class | 23:13 |
| @scrottie | okay. I like that suggestion better than perlDreamer's suggestion ;) | 23:13 |
| +perlDreamer | the problem is that you can't add keywords via new | 23:14 |
| +perlDreamer | and in the 7.x API, the "keywords" property was manually dispatched to the Keyword object | 23:14 |
| +perlDreamer | and that's not working the same way in 8 | 23:14 |
| Haarg | what about set? i would think that would fail too. | 23:14 |
| @scrottie | perlDreamer: right. you can in my version but the next question up is how to do this cleanly and in a way that'll work for similar problems in the codebase. | 23:14 |
| +perlDreamer | set works okay :) | 23:15 |
| @scrottie | I fixed that exact bug but I need to figure out a general fix here. | 23:15 |
| +perlDreamer | scrottie, what's "your version" | 23:15 |
| @scrottie | well, there are a few test things... the first was looking for a case... damn, can't paste between computers yet... the second was checking the attribute list if it wasn't in the "property" list and calling it... essentially, inverting the nested loops in WG::Definition::Role::Object::set so that it iterates over the stuff you pass in rather than iterating over "properties" ,and tries properties first then checks for an attribute if tha | 23:17 |
| @scrottie | t fails. | 23:17 |
| Haarg | the cleverness is a problem i'm trying to deal with in my new upgrade code. i still don't like how magical some parts of it are even though i've done my best to document it. and i don't see a better solution than i am currently using. | 23:17 |
| @scrottie | the first was just identifying the case where exists $properties->{keywords} and ! grep $_ eq 'keywords', @orderedProperties and calling the setter then. then, I wasn't aware of this "properties" extension. | 23:17 |
| Haarg | perlDreamer, what makes set work? it seems like it would refuse to set anything that wasn't a property | 23:18 |
| @scrottie | yeah. I'm having some frustration from repeatedly discovering that the normal, basic, vanilla operations traipse through code hidden off to the side. | 23:19 |
| +perlDreamer | it is a property, but it's arounded to intercept calls and send them to the Keywords object | 23:19 |
| +perlDreamer | scrottie, that seems to be the nature of Moose | 23:19 |
| Haarg | ok, that makes a bit more sense. | 23:19 |
| +perlDreamer | where you start bringing in classes, and roles | 23:19 |
| +perlDreamer | and you have to untangle them to understand the conglomerate object | 23:20 |
| Haarg | wait | 23:20 |
| @scrottie | yeah. I might have to just come to terms with that. I always myself imagined that mixins would be lesser tangetical stuff from the inheritance hierachy but the basic stuff, including object construction and initialization, would take place in the main inheritance hierachy. | 23:20 |
| Haarg | where is it defined as a property? | 23:20 |
| +perlDreamer | in Asset.pm | 23:20 |
| Haarg | has keywords => ( | 23:21 |
| +perlDreamer | yup | 23:21 |
| Haarg | has | 23:21 |
| Haarg | not property | 23:21 |
| @scrottie | but that's not a "property", just attribute | 23:21 |
| @scrottie | is there any reason that can't just be a "property"? | 23:21 |
| +perlDreamer | yes, because you don't want write to do anything with it | 23:21 |
| @scrottie | again, I *just* last night at 2am discovered the existance of this "property" thing and that it extends Moose's Meta stuff. | 23:21 |
| +perlDreamer | and write looks at properties | 23:21 |
| +perlDreamer | so it can't be a property | 23:22 |
| +perlDreamer | maybe we need a "writable" property property | 23:22 |
| @scrottie | how about a property with a write-please-ignore-me ... arg... what are attributes of attributes called? | 23:22 |
| +perlDreamer | actually, it would be "unwritable", since most everything should be a property | 23:22 |
| +perlDreamer | non-writable | 23:22 |
| @scrottie | okay, it feels good to confirm that I half way understand what's going on in here. that gives me hope ;) | 23:23 |
| Haarg | it isn't really an attribute either, we just want to have it treated like one | 23:23 |
| Haarg | in some cases | 23:23 |
| +perlDreamer | right | 23:23 |
| +perlDreamer | it's a convenience method for setting and getting the keywords of an asset | 23:24 |
| @scrottie | is there any reason set/get/update shouldn't fall back on reading to and writing from attributes if a property doesn't exist but the attribute does? | 23:24 |
| Haarg | that seems reasonable to me | 23:25 |
| +perlDreamer | isn't that what set and get do now? | 23:25 |
| Haarg | get already does iirc, it was changed to just use a 'can' check | 23:25 |
| Haarg | set specifically only handles properties | 23:25 |
| +perlDreamer | they're magic for $asset->get('name') => $asset->name | 23:25 |
| +perlDreamer | and update just takes key value pairs and calls set on them | 23:25 |
| @scrottie | hrm, yes | 23:26 |
| @scrottie | I haven't read get but looking at my strack trace, that would explain that | 23:26 |
| +perlDreamer | actually, update doesn't call set | 23:28 |
| @scrottie | I set a debugger breakpoint on keywords and was confused when it only was called without arguments =P | 23:28 |
| @scrottie | ooops, network. | 23:28 |
| +perlDreamer | it calls the method directly | 23:29 |
| @scrottie | hrm? it does in my version | 23:29 |
| +perlDreamer | dang it, I'm skimming code too quickly | 23:29 |
| @scrottie | it just calls $self->set(@_) then does if ($self->can('write')) { $self->write } return 1; | 23:29 |
| @scrottie | and that's it | 23:29 |
| @scrottie | no problem. | 23:30 |
| Haarg | perlDreamer, how important is it that properties be set in definition order? | 23:30 |
| +perlDreamer | pretty | 23:30 |
| +perlDreamer | I had a very hard time with title, menuTitles, and URLs | 23:30 |
| @scrottie | how bad would it be if set() blew up if you passed it something that wasn't a property or attribute? | 23:30 |
| +perlDreamer | and inheritUrlFromParent | 23:30 |
| @scrottie | I can answer that question myself. and I intend to ;) | 23:30 |
| @scrottie | that should be entertaining. it seems like a case of silent failure right now that it ignores things passed to it that aren't properties (or otherwise that it does nothign with). | 23:31 |
| +perlDreamer | It's probably better that get, set, and update all fall back to using whatever attribute's are available | 23:31 |
| @scrottie | but I could be wrong. | 23:31 |
| Haarg | in an ideal world scrottie, that should happen. it depends on how backward compatible we want to be. | 23:31 |
| +perlDreamer | whether they are WebGUI property's, or not | 23:31 |
| @scrottie | die "WHO IS $attribute AND WHY DO YOU HAVE 300 TEXT MESSAGES TO HER ON YOUR CELL PHONE!??!!!?!?!?!!!"; | 23:31 |
| +perlDreamer | I'm not sure the Dutch government would appreciate that message, but I'm all for it :) | 23:33 |
| @scrottie | alright. I think I should try this and I should also solicit ideas for tests to write to try to figure out if it's blowing things up. and running some legacy code under it (the bugtracker) could be interesting. | 23:35 |
| +perlDreamer | but it doesn't address the core issue, which is new | 23:36 |
| +perlDreamer | new doesn't call the setters and getters | 23:36 |
| +perlDreamer | so you can't initialize an object with keywords | 23:37 |
| @scrottie | oh | 23:37 |
| @scrottie | I need to read through code that calls the constructor and look at things from that point of view for a while to come up with anything intelligeble in that department | 23:38 |
| @scrottie | and get back to ya'll'en's'es. | 23:38 |
| +perlDreamer | everything falls back to using ->new | 23:39 |
| +perlDreamer | whether it's addChild | 23:39 |
| +perlDreamer | or newByPropertyHashRef | 23:39 |
| Haarg | that almost sounds like we would want a custom attribute metaclass for keywords, but that seems kind of horrible | 23:39 |
| +perlDreamer | yeah | 23:39 |
| * scrottie nods vigerously | 23:40 | |
| +perlDreamer | In my head, I keep wanting to use delegation, but it really doesn't work | 23:40 |
| +perlDreamer | for this application | 23:40 |
| * perlDreamer thinks its time to start throwing octopusses at the wall | 23:41 | |
| @scrottie | that's a good instinct. it's good to evaluate things in context of that first even if just to rule them out. | 23:41 |
| +perlDreamer | the problem with delegation is that it maps another object's methods into this object, and that's not what we want | 23:41 |
| +perlDreamer | we want $asset->keywords('a,b,c') to set the keywords | 23:42 |
| +perlDreamer | $asset->keywords() | 23:42 |
| +perlDreamer | to return keywords | 23:42 |
| +perlDreamer | $asset->update({keywords => 'new, keywords'}) to write them to the db | 23:42 |
| +perlDreamer | and my $asset = WebGUI::Asset->newByPropertyHashRef({className => 'WebGUI::Asset', session => $session, keywords => 'initial, keywords'}) to give me back an asset with those keywords set | 23:43 |
| @scrottie | well, it could work other ways. if you're call can or meta all of the time, that's a little bit like querying MySQL to see which rows are in a table. it's essentially non-normalized objects. | 23:43 |
| @scrottie | which is sometimes the less dirty way to do things or a good tradeoff for energies involved when the problem fundamentally is meta. | 23:43 |
| +perlDreamer | right, but I don't want to update 65 asset classes by hand to do that | 23:43 |
| @scrottie | but delegation can be normalized out more easily even if it is more verbose. | 23:43 |
| @scrottie | yeah. exactly. | 23:44 |
| @scrottie | then you have a Java-esque API. which is the other extreme. | 23:44 |
| +perlDreamer | well, those are the edge cases | 23:45 |
| @scrottie | or you can black-hole unknown methods with Class::Blackhole or otherwise with AUTOLOAD in a parent class and let subclasses define attributes as they see fit | 23:45 |
| @scrottie | or maybe Moose has a concept of AUTOLOAD too. | 23:45 |
| @scrottie | that can certainly be not too messy if you get over the hurdle of $object->$method | 23:46 |
| @scrottie | hurdle of accept that, I mean | 23:46 |
| +perlDreamer | yeah | 23:46 |
| * perlDreamer is out for a while to pick up the kiddos from school, back in 60 | 23:46 | |
| @scrottie | cool, thanks for the brainstorming | 23:47 |
| Haarg | unless we want to circumvent moose's new entirely, for asset->new({keywords => []}) to work, it would have to be an attribute | 23:48 |
| Haarg | but it really isn't an attribute. so we would have to do something ugly with around/trigger/something else, or using a custom metaclass for it. | 23:49 |
| @scrottie | around for this one thing is okay, imo. I just don't want interactions between around and inheritance as would happen if set/get were wrapped with around in multiple inheritance levels. | 23:52 |
| Haarg | http://gist.github.com/415037 this is kind of what i was thinking for ->set, but any implementation that did essentially the same thing would be fine | 23:53 |
| Haarg | if ->new bypasses around, i would think we could use initializer to make it work regardless | 23:55 |
| @scrottie | re: new, I need to do more research before I can say anything intelligent on that | 23:56 |
| @scrottie | but your set is very similar to what I've got here | 23:56 |
| @scrottie | in my second attempt at this | 23:56 |
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| +perlDreamer | Haarg, get_all_attribute is a superset of get_all_properties | 00:11 |
| Haarg | yes | 00:11 |
| Haarg | thus the grep/seen | 00:11 |
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| Haarg | get_all_properties_list is needed to maintain order, but we also want all the other attributes. another alternative would be cloning the incoming properties and deleting them from the hash as they are set as properties, then setting the remaining entries as attributes | 00:13 |
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| +perlDreamer | Haarg, speedwise it might be faster to use get_all_attributes and to sort by insertion order, like is done with properties | 01:29 |
| +perlDreamer | we'd have to benchmark both approaches | 01:29 |
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| CIA-59 | webgui: Colin Kuskie WebGUI8 * re924f9d / t/Asset/Wobject/Search.t : Dump the dumping. - http://bit.ly/977txz | 01:58 |
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| SDuensin | Morning. | 16:13 |
| @khenn | morning | 16:14 |
| SDuensin | Where's the coffee? | 16:17 |
| Haarg | yesterday i finally received the espresso machine i bought in january. and it is good. | 16:18 |
| SDuensin | Dang. Sounds like all the tech I've ordered lately. Been weeks since I ordered my phone. Headed rapidly to multiple weeks on my laptop as well. | 16:20 |
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| +perlDreamer | bartjol, I fixed the language bug | 17:28 |
| +perlDreamer | If you have a little time to make tests, it would be cool | 17:28 |
| +perlDreamer | if not, we'll get it later or something | 17:29 |
| +bartjol | I saw it | 17:29 |
| +bartjol | yeah, I have been working on the tests, just have to figure a way of making it indpendent on the # of installed languages | 17:30 |
| +perlDreamer | hm | 17:30 |
| +perlDreamer | you could override getLanguages, in International.pm | 17:30 |
| +bartjol | that is a reasonable idea, but not ideal | 17:32 |
| +bartjol | I'll think about it | 17:32 |
| +bartjol | but not now I'm afraid | 17:32 |
| +perlDreamer | no, as I said no rush | 17:33 |
| +perlDreamer | maybe we should hack on it together at the WUC? | 17:33 |
| +bartjol | that'll be fine | 17:33 |
| +bartjol | but if I manage it earlier, that'll be ok too, I suppose? | 17:34 |
| +perlDreamer | oh sure | 17:34 |
| +perlDreamer | time to take the kiddos to school, back in 20 or so | 17:38 |
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| CIA-59 | WebGUI: translation * r12507 /translations/German/German/ (WebGUI.pm Asset_Collaboration.pm Account_Inbox.pm): Updating German on translation server | 17:57 |
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| +bartjol | oh, and a positive thing about the bugfix, it makes the getsessionlanguage macro from the bazaar obsolete | 18:54 |
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| * perlDreamer is off to the gym | 19:11 | |
| @scrottie | w00t. | 19:33 |
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| SquOnk | Greetings | 19:58 |
| SquOnk | Quick question. | 19:58 |
| SquOnk | I'm seeing 401 response codes on logout or on first visit. | 19:58 |
| SquOnk | 7.8.18 | 19:58 |
| SquOnk | Is that normal? | 19:58 |
| SquOnk | We are not using HTTP AUTH, that's why I ask ;-) | 19:58 |
| SquOnk | Ideas? | 20:00 |
| @preaction | 401 is unauthorized. webgui sends that if you're not authorized to view the page | 20:00 |
| SquOnk | preaction: And it does that all the time. | 20:01 |
| SquOnk | ? | 20:01 |
| @preaction | when you're not authorized to view a page, yes. | 20:01 |
| @preaction | 401 unauthorized doesn't cause the http basic auth dialog to show up, a different header causes that | 20:02 |
| SquOnk | preaction: 403 | 20:02 |
| @preaction | no, that's forbidden | 20:02 |
| @preaction | different header, not different status code | 20:02 |
| SquOnk | Yep, I meant 407 | 20:02 |
| @preaction | proxy auth required? that's a totally different thing | 20:03 |
| SquOnk | Yeah, I mixed two different things... | 20:03 |
| SquOnk | But I get now that 401 is normal when you're not authorized to view a page. | 20:04 |
| SquOnk | Fixed. Thanks for the hint. | 20:05 |
| SquOnk | Parts of / are not for Visitor to see, but the _whole_ page had been blocked for Visitor :/ | 20:06 |
| SquOnk | ...and there was a proxy in between, to make things easier to debug | 20:06 |
| SquOnk | ...not! | 20:06 |
| Haarg | technically, sending back a 401 in those cases is incorrect. it is only supposed to be used with HTTP auth | 20:06 |
| SquOnk | Haarg: That's what I thought. I don't think is forbidden to send 401, anyway. | 20:07 |
| +perlDreamer | SquOnk: howdy! Long time no see. | 20:43 |
| +perlDreamer | SquOnk: have you seen the Ubuntu package ticket on the bug board? | 20:43 |
| SquOnk | perlDreamer: Hey there. I've been oughly busy | 20:43 |
| SquOnk | perlDreamer: Yes, but it's quite old. 7.7.something | 20:43 |
| SquOnk | perlDreamer: Debian Squeeze carries 7.8.19 and Sid 7.8.20 | 20:44 |
| +perlDreamer | SquOnk: any idea how to track down the Ubuntu package maintainer, or did they pull an old version of your package from Debian? | 20:44 |
| SquOnk | perlDreamer: They are tracking and old version from Debian. That's what they usually do... | 20:45 |
| +perlDreamer | SquOnk: I'll post the bug upstream, and suggest that they upgrade | 20:48 |
| SquOnk | perlDreamer: :-) | 20:48 |
| SquOnk | Off to have lunch. | 20:48 |
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| CIA-59 | webgui: Paul Driver master * r99fbe6d / lib/WebGUI/AssetTrash.pm : escape asset titles in manageTrash - http://bit.ly/9j1idQ | 21:33 |
| CIA-59 | webgui: Paul Driver master * r3341153 / docs/changelog/7.x.x.txt : changelog note for my last commit - http://bit.ly/b9bXda | 21:50 |
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| CIA-59 | webgui: Paul Driver webgui-7.8 * r77c5bbc / (docs/changelog/7.x.x.txt lib/WebGUI/AssetTrash.pm): fixing manageTrash and newlines (#11597) - | 21:52 |
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| bipolar | I'm using "Hierarchical Top Nav" for my navigation menu. Is there a better way to make sure that 'Home' is always on the left of the menu other then adding a redirect to the home page and making it visible to navigation? | 22:01 |
| +perlDreamer | bipolar: most people leave Home out of the nav, and make a dedicated link via a logo in the top part of the design | 22:15 |
| bipolar | perlDreamer: ok. I can work with that :) | 22:15 |
| * perlDreamer takes a lunch break. Back in 60 or so. | 22:16 | |
| @khenn | Does anyone know if there is a script out there to migrate collab systems to story manager? | 22:21 |
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| +perlDreamer | not yet, khenn | 23:03 |
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| +perlDreamer | khenn, it would be pretty straight forward, just translating properties from one to the other | 23:46 |
| +perlDreamer | but since stories don't do comments yet, any posts to a thread would be lost | 23:46 |
| @khenn | ok | 23:47 |
| @khenn | yeah we have to add comments first | 23:47 |
| @khenn | before migrating | 23:47 |
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| @khenn | perlDreamer : fix my bugs! | 05:40 |
| @khenn | =) | 05:40 |
| +perlDreamer | khenn, you have to stand in line like the rest of them | 06:10 |
| +perlDreamer | I'm not even sure some of them are fixable | 06:10 |
| @khenn | I'm trying to get you to fix those inbox bugs so I don't have to =p | 06:11 |
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| +perlDreamer | Bug fixing days are Monday and Tuesday | 06:12 |
| +perlDreamer | on Wed, Thurs, Fri, I work on WebGUI 8, which is the future of the world! | 06:12 |
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| CIA-59 | webgui: Colin Kuskie WebGUI8 * r0ae4882 / t/tests/Test/WebGUI/Asset.pm : Give tests prefixes so they run in a predictable order. - http://bit.ly/9I3xKs | 06:54 |
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| @scrottie | $properties->{state} gets set in two places but, as far as I can tell, not read anywhere. am I missing something? I'm playing with a little sanity check to make sure that attributes aren't passed to update() that don't exist as properties or attributes in the target asset. | 07:52 |
| +perlDreamer | scrottie, which version of wg are we talking here? | 07:52 |
| @scrottie | 8.0 | 07:53 |
| +perlDreamer | which module? | 07:53 |
| +perlDreamer | state may not be read via the object, but directly in SQL queries and such | 07:54 |
| @scrottie | ... yeah. grepping further, that looks to be the case. not sure how that happens. | 07:54 |
| @scrottie | WG::AssetLineage.pm line 92-ish sets $properties->{state} = 'published' | 07:54 |
| @scrottie | WG::Shop::AddressBook.pm 402 sets it from $user->profileField( $copyFrom . 'State' ) ... other kind of state, it seems | 07:55 |
| +perlDreamer | State, as in province | 07:55 |
| +perlDreamer | geographical locale | 07:55 |
| +perlDreamer | valid states are published, trash, trash-limbo, clipboard, clipboard-limbo | 07:56 |
| @scrottie | and I do see $self->("state") calls. okay, it just isn't an attribute in WG::Asset::Keyword. | 07:56 |
| @scrottie | cool. thanks. | 07:56 |
| +perlDreamer | Asset::Keyword? | 07:56 |
| +perlDreamer | WebGUI::Keyword perhaps? | 07:56 |
| +perlDreamer | or is this prototype work? | 07:57 |
| @scrottie | erm... no, not a prototype | 07:57 |
| @scrottie | WG::Asset::Snippet. sorry. | 07:57 |
| +perlDreamer | the other thing to know about state, is that it applies to EVERY version of an Asset | 07:58 |
| @scrottie | ... okay... | 07:59 |
| @scrottie | saw stuff in there for versions but I don't yet know how or why they're used. | 07:59 |
| +perlDreamer | there are a subset of Asset properties which are versioned | 08:00 |
| +perlDreamer | but state is not one of them | 08:00 |
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| SDuensin | FRIIIIIIIDAAAAAAY! | 16:30 |
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| +bartjol | well, have a nice weekend | 17:33 |
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| +perlDreamer | morning, folks! | 17:57 |
| +perlDreamer | It's Friday | 17:57 |
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| +perlDreamer | bipolar, did you get your navigation all figured out? | 18:45 |
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| CIA-59 | webgui: Graham Knop upgrades * rf958736 / (8 files in 3 dirs): more complete pod - http://bit.ly/91Cvw1 | 18:48 |
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| bipolar | perlDreamer: For the most part, yeah. thanks! | 18:58 |
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| +patspam | hey perlDreamer | 19:14 |
| +patspam | I think it's lunchtime | 19:14 |
| +perlDreamer | yo, patspam! | 19:14 |
| +perlDreamer | it is? | 19:14 |
| +patspam | YES! | 19:14 |
| +perlDreamer | lunch on, then, dude! | 19:14 |
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| @frodwith | morning perldreamer. It -is- friday! | 19:18 |
| +perlDreamer | It's time for the 5 days of insanity to begin | 19:21 |
| +perlDreamer | today, Birthday party for the 11-year old | 19:22 |
| +perlDreamer | Sunday, orchestra performance | 19:22 |
| +perlDreamer | Monday, kids are off from school | 19:22 |
| +perlDreamer | Tuesday, wife's graduation ceremony | 19:22 |
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| @preaction | scrottie: can you merge that spectre change into master and webgui-7.8 please? that's something that has bugged me since we put the PID in there | 19:47 |
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| @scrottie | preaction, sure. | 20:47 |
| @preaction | thanks | 20:48 |
| @scrottie | NO PROBLEMO SENIOR!! | 20:53 |
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| +patspam | perlDreamer: congrats to kathy! | 21:15 |
| +perlDreamer | thanks, patspam, I'll pass that on :) | 21:15 |
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| CIA-59 | webgui: Scott Walters WebGUI8 * r14d249d / sbin/spectre.pl : stale PID file detection -- previous patch cleanup and supress uninit warning - http://bit.ly/aRBgdC | 21:27 |
| CIA-59 | webgui: Scott Walters master * r83d5f55 / sbin/spectre.pl : | 21:28 |
| CIA-59 | webgui: PID files contain the PID so that on next run, we can test to see | 21:28 |
| CIA-59 | webgui: if that PID is still alive. If it isn't, the daemon was kill -9'd, | 21:28 |
| CIA-59 | webgui: the system crashed, or similar. It isn't running any more and it's | 21:28 |
| CIA-59 | webgui: safe to start up again. Don't die on startup unless the PID in the | 21:28 |
| CIA-59 | webgui: PID file is valid. - http://bit.ly/dmvyFf | 21:28 |
| CIA-59 | webgui: Scott Walters master * rdc14b06 / sbin/spectre.pl : stale PID file detection -- previous patch cleanup and supress uninit warning - http://bit.ly/9pUyef | 21:28 |
| @scrottie | today is going to be short. This morning had some distractions and I discovered that I need to leave punctually this evening. Hopefully hours and everything are on track. | 21:32 |
| @scrottie | DSL seems to be working. I didn't realize it, but there are *poles* tucked away down an easement in the middle of the block, so no road construction was needed... just the lineman knocking on the door for access. DSL bloody works. It's amazing. | 21:33 |
| @scrottie | there was some madness with setting-attributes-and-properties with read-only attributes and hopefully the fix doesn't break things. test failures/successes didn't change because of it. | 21:34 |
| @scrottie | anyone know offhand what the test coverage is approximately (not that that's a perfect metric)? | 21:34 |
| Haarg | i don't know but i know it's not very well covered | 21:35 |
| @scrottie | talked to Frank yesterday; looks like one strategy for me is a few more days on bugs and then using the issuetracker re-work to learn app development in the WebGUI7 environment and then work with frodwith on AJAX-y frontend on the same. | 21:37 |
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| @scrottie | no graduations of close friends or relatives or birthday parties. other than YAPC looming, it's pretty tame here. | 21:37 |
| @frodwith | YAPC::NA falls -exactly- on the dates of a 3-day family reunion we've had planned for like a year. Go figure, eh? I wanted to go this time. :-/ | 21:41 |
| @frodwith | (to YAPC::NA, i mean) | 21:41 |
| @frodwith | (I'm going to the reunion :-p) | 21:41 |
| @scrottie | bleah! | 21:41 |
| @scrottie | yeah, a good friend and long time co-conspiritor has a wedding he has to go to. | 21:41 |
| @frodwith | last (and only) time I went to a YAPC I got horrifically sick and had to leave early. | 21:42 |
| @frodwith | next year. Next year! | 21:42 |
| @scrottie | you went drinking with mst? bad move. | 21:43 |
| @frodwith | that would have been an excellent move | 21:43 |
| @frodwith | I had some sort of weird stomach flu actually | 21:43 |
| @frodwith | not fun. | 21:43 |
| @scrottie | I've seen strong men destroyed on pub crawls with mst. | 21:43 |
| @scrottie | seriously though, that bites. | 21:44 |
| @scrottie | there's PPW too. I haven't made one yet but they are supposed to be 7/10ths the fun. | 21:44 |
| @frodwith | ppw? | 21:44 |
| @frodwith | ah | 21:45 |
| @scrottie | Pittsbugh Perl Workshop | 21:45 |
| @frodwith | are you speaking at yapc scrottie? | 21:46 |
| @scrottie | sure am. | 21:47 |
| @frodwith | what on? | 21:47 |
| @scrottie | muahahahaa | 21:47 |
| @scrottie | using single-image clustering to scale Plack webapps | 21:47 |
| @frodwith | single image clustering | 21:47 |
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| @scrottie | have you ever seen a picture of a machine such as The Earth Simulator? it's gorgeous. if you haven't, google image search it now. | 21:48 |
| @scrottie | tens or hundreds of thousands of processors. | 21:48 |
| @frodwith | oh lord what is it | 21:48 |
| @scrottie | but what you don't tend to see in the pictures is the thing with the cabinet doors open. | 21:48 |
| @scrottie | for three or four years, it was the fastest supercomputer in the world. | 21:48 |
| @scrottie | it ran climate simulations. | 21:48 |
| @scrottie | Japan is having some concerns about possibily being under water. | 21:49 |
| @frodwith | so what is single image clustering? | 21:49 |
| @scrottie | these beasts usually run automative simulations, protien folding simulations, geological data analysis for oil exploration, nuclear physics simulations and a few other things | 21:49 |
| @scrottie | getting to that part. | 21:49 |
| @frodwith | k | 21:49 |
| @scrottie | the Earth Simulator (which I hope you googled pics for) looks like long rows of panels but if you open the panels, it's actually a bunch of racks with rack mount compute nodes in it and a whole heck of a lot of wires connecting the nodes. | 21:50 |
| @scrottie | physically, it's thousands of computers; to the programmer, it's one computer with a crazy amount of RAM and CPUs. | 21:50 |
| @frodwith | yes, it's purty | 21:50 |
| @scrottie | that's a single image cluster. | 21:50 |
| @scrottie | that's actually one better... it's a "global shared memory" computer. | 21:51 |
| @frodwith | how do plack webapps in particular scale with that, as opposed to ... anything | 21:51 |
| @scrottie | a single image system typically lets a fork migrate to a different compute node (IPC, open files, file locks, filesystem stuff, etc, etc) but not threads. on a global shared memory such as that, threads and processes that have the same data mmap'd in can span compute nodes. | 21:52 |
| @scrottie | they scale by virtue of not being Apache, mostly. | 21:52 |
| @scrottie | and not running afoul of the mmap restrictions and other nasty stuff Apache does... if you use a server like Starman. | 21:53 |
| @frodwith | forking fantasti | 21:53 |
| @frodwith | c | 21:53 |
| @scrottie | forks.pm gives you a Threads API but across forks. guess what that means =) | 21:53 |
| @scrottie | so, you can write webapps that run on lots of CPUs without having to use the database to store session data (because all of the large number of server processes can see the session data in memory already, and without having to use memcached or otherwise serializing the data) | 21:55 |
| @scrottie | and you can keep a whole pile of stuff in memory in general without worrying about distributed caches or caches that replicate things across the memory of a large number of machines | 21:55 |
| @frodwith | well, -you- don't have to serialize it. I'm sure whatever makes the ssi work still has -some- overhead | 21:55 |
| @frodwith | but it would sure simplify writing the app | 21:56 |
| @scrottie | sure it has some overhead. if you have an NEC SX-6 or other globally shared memory machine, accessing memory on a node one or two or three "hops" away has performance penalties, but it's a heck of a lot less than serializing things and moving it over Ethernet. | 21:56 |
| @frodwith | right | 21:57 |
| @frodwith | i mean, I don't know anything about shared memory machines, so I don't know how it's implemented | 21:57 |
| @scrottie | and it doesn't get serialized. you really hit RAM on a globally shared memory machine as an extension of the RAM bus. | 21:57 |
| @frodwith | so what's the catch, why don't people do this more often | 21:57 |
| @frodwith | it sounds too good to be true | 21:58 |
| @scrottie | two things | 21:58 |
| @scrottie | globally shared memory machines are really, really frickin' expensive | 21:58 |
| @frodwith | ah. | 21:58 |
| @scrottie | and also, companies like NEC that make the SX 6 that the Earth Simulator was built from and SGI and Cray have terrible marketing | 21:58 |
| @frodwith | well, how expensive though | 21:58 |
| @scrottie | they've managed to keep the whole tech community from knowing what these things *are* but constantly writing shitty press releases for middle management and never making these things available in any way shape or form to the tech community to play with. | 21:59 |
| @scrottie | last bid I saw, one SGI compute node with four processors, back when x86 machines weren't four CPU/core and those things were still MIPS RISC, was $20,000. | 21:59 |
| @frodwith | mrhmph. | 22:00 |
| @scrottie | physically what you're paying for is the "interconnect hardware" which has insane bandwidth for connecting that node to several other nodes directly (and those to other nodes, in some kind of topology/mesh network) and crazy fast memory on a "crossbar bus" topology so other CPUs on the net, CPUs on the machine, and your 36megs (back then, probably much larger now) of L3 cache can all band four memory buses at the same time | 22:01 |
| @scrottie | ... so that all of the CPUs in all of the machines can actually get at the memory they're trying to access. | 22:01 |
| @scrottie | this is porn for me. | 22:01 |
| CIA-59 | webgui: Colin Kuskie WebGUI8 * r636ca8a / (lib/WebGUI/AssetHelper/Lock.pm t/AssetHelper/Lock.t): Update AssetHelper/Lock test. Missing use line in the module itself. - http://bit.ly/d796eb | 22:02 |
| CIA-59 | webgui: Colin Kuskie WebGUI8 * reeef1a2 / t/Asset.t : Add tests for setVersionLock, no more test plans. - http://bit.ly/b4ATf1 | 22:02 |
| CIA-59 | webgui: Colin Kuskie WebGUI8 * rc31fee5 / t/Definition/Asset.t : No test planning. - http://bit.ly/921Y2B | 22:02 |
| @scrottie | btw, "Beowulf" is something less than either of these, despite Slashdot memes. it's a library/API for sending messages over the network for software explicitly written to scale by sending messages over the network. | 22:02 |
| @scrottie | boring. | 22:02 |
| @scrottie | frodwith: anyway, check out openssi.org/cgi-bin/view?page=features.html | 22:04 |
| +perlDreamer | scrottie, getReadableMethods should probably be moved back into a meta class, instead of being in AssetVersioning.pm | 22:04 |
| +perlDreamer | and it needs some tests | 22:05 |
| @scrottie | back into? or into? I need to re-survey the aspects floating aorund. things keep getting pushed out of my brain. | 22:05 |
| +perlDreamer | back, as in short for backwards | 22:05 |
| @scrottie | okay. I need to read more about where this meta stuff is currently getting set up. | 22:07 |
| +perlDreamer | Definition/Role/Object.pm should do it | 22:07 |
| +perlDreamer | so that objects can introspect themselves | 22:07 |
| @scrottie | also I need to search around for examples of constructing objects directly via the Moose constructor. my first naive attempt was thwarted by a custom BUILDARGS. but keywords passed to new() *should* work since there's around around on keywords | 22:08 |
| +perlDreamer | I'm running a regression now, so I'll let you know. | 22:08 |
| +perlDreamer | and it we don't have direct tests for that, I'll write some. | 22:08 |
| @scrottie | frodwith: also btw, SGI, Cray, and other vendors selling global shared memory systems now days are building them around x86 hardware. except for NEC maybe. | 22:10 |
| @scrottie | hmm? regression? | 22:10 |
| +perlDreamer | prove | 22:10 |
| @scrottie | direct tests for creating objects directly you mean? | 22:10 |
| +perlDreamer | there are direct tests for creating objects already | 22:11 |
| @scrottie | talking about too many things at once | 22:11 |
| @scrottie | okay. cool. I'll find them. | 22:11 |
| @scrottie | thanks. | 22:11 |
| +perlDreamer | I was talking about calling new with keywords | 22:11 |
| @scrottie | gotcha. | 22:11 |
| +perlDreamer | t/Definition/Asset.t | 22:11 |
| +perlDreamer | t/Asset.t | 22:11 |
| +perlDreamer | t/tests/Test/WebGUI/Asset.pm | 22:11 |
| @scrottie | that's just kinda where I left off, that's all. | 22:12 |
| @scrottie | stumbling around the codebase like an idiot =) | 22:12 |
| +perlDreamer | it's a lot of code | 22:12 |
| @scrottie | not bad. and not braindamaged either. | 22:12 |
| +perlDreamer | it is all starting to make some kind of twisted sense? | 22:13 |
| @scrottie | more comments would be good. I might work on that. even terse ones here are there saying why things are done this way or why something is needed would help. long comments tend to get out of sync anywya. | 22:13 |
| @scrottie | perhaps only because of my extremely myopic view of it. | 22:13 |
| @preaction | yeah, "why" a method exists or an algorithm does what it does is our biggest missing bit | 22:13 |
| +perlDreamer | yeah | 22:14 |
| +perlDreamer | preaction, I think there's a caching bug with Asset->new, and revisionDates | 22:14 |
| +perlDreamer | but I'll write a test to expose it | 22:14 |
| @preaction | i've updated most of our Session stuff to explicitly weaken, but couldn't find the memory leak i've been looking for | 22:15 |
| @preaction | given 400 assets, we leak about 2-3M | 22:16 |
| @preaction | during the export HTML stuff | 22:16 |
| @scrottie | ugh | 22:16 |
| @scrottie | using Devel::LeakTrace? | 22:16 |
| @preaction | using Devel::Cycle and Devel::Gladiator so far, haven't tried leaktrace yet | 22:17 |
| @scrottie | Devel::Gladiator is fun, fun, fun | 22:17 |
| @preaction | indeed. we had about 15000 scalars in the arena at global destruction. changing to explicit weaken dropped that to 4000 | 22:18 |
| * scrottie whistles appreciatively | 22:18 | |
| +perlDreamer | scrottie, did you run the test suite before committing? | 22:23 |
| +perlDreamer | it wasn't passing before, but there are a whole lot of basic tests failing now | 22:24 |
| @scrottie | before which commit? argh | 22:27 |
| @scrottie | I ran it before/after the get-set-update changes and saw no change other than in t/Keyword.t | 22:27 |
| @scrottie | the "cleanup" patch I didn't. | 22:27 |
| @scrottie | did I fat finger it? | 22:27 |
| +perlDreamer | I've only looked at 1 thing so far, but addRev seems to be pretty badly boogered up | 22:28 |
| +perlDreamer | try small, and just run t/Asset.t until it passes | 22:28 |
| @scrottie | okay, I know just the change that would have done that | 22:28 |
| @scrottie | look at line 129 in lib/WebGUI/AssetVersioniong.pm, where it creates %mergedProperties | 22:29 |
| +perlDreamer | yup | 22:30 |
| +perlDreamer | when a revision is added, it makes a baseline entry in the db for the next version | 22:30 |
| @scrottie | that's the change that made me nervous. I worked around the need for it but left it changed as a possible cleanup. | 22:30 |
| +perlDreamer | properties from the old version were brought in by ->get | 22:30 |
| @scrottie | oh, wait, I actually changed it back again. | 22:31 |
| +perlDreamer | the committed change has the ->get line commented out | 22:31 |
| +perlDreamer | with a nice comment, of course :) | 22:31 |
| @scrottie | that change shouldn't be in effect. hmm. in that case, I don't know why it would be mucked up. | 22:31 |
| +perlDreamer | this is the version in the WebGUi8 repo: http://gist.github.com/417617 | 22:32 |
| @scrottie | yeah, I keep contradicting myself. I just ran git diff realizing maybe I didn't save then commit =P | 22:32 |
| @scrottie | trying to figure out if having that change in effect does wedge things | 22:33 |
| @scrottie | running test... hmm. | 22:33 |
| +perlDreamer | I'd write the test for keywords, but without addRev.... | 22:34 |
| Haarg | perlDreamer, when you have a chance, can you take a look at the POD for my WebGUI::Upgrades stuff? | 22:38 |
| +perlDreamer | branch URL? | 22:38 |
| Haarg | http://github.com/haarg/webgui/tree/upgrades | 22:38 |
| Haarg | WebGUI::Upgrade and WebGUI::Upgrade::* | 22:39 |
| Haarg | i need to figure out what i'm going to do for logging/output. aside from that it should basically be complete. | 22:41 |
| Haarg | then i can get back to finishing anything needed for psgi merge | 22:41 |
| +perlDreamer | you wove it inline! | 22:41 |
| +perlDreamer | Are you feeling well? | 22:41 |
| +perlDreamer | for psgi merge, in-memory assets | 22:41 |
| Haarg | is that a prereq? | 22:41 |
| +perlDreamer | if all tests passing is a pre-req, yes | 22:42 |
| +perlDreamer | There are still some modules looking through the Definition | 22:42 |
| +perlDreamer | like EMSSubmissionForm, Group | 22:42 |
| Haarg | that's already a problem in WebGUI8 though isn't it? | 22:43 |
| Haarg | not psgi specific | 22:43 |
| Haarg | still hating the inline pod. and WebGUI::Upgrade::Script doesn't have it inline, but it really can't. | 22:43 |
| +perlDreamer | I'm learning to like the separated style | 22:45 |
| Haarg | the preloader needs to be fixed as well, but i'm thinking that i'll end up just hard coding some modules to skip for the time being. the preloader is a bit more involved, and i think it's worth focussing on getting psgi settled before tackling that. | 22:46 |
| +perlDreamer | sure, makes sense to me | 22:46 |
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| @scrottie | no, doesn't seem to be that line... let's try without @settable having $self->getReadableAttributes | 23:05 |
| @scrottie | changing that back only makes one other test pass. | 23:15 |
| @scrottie | dag nabbit. | 23:15 |
| +perlDreamer | scrottie, maybe the thing to do would be to roll your branch back to the point where you started, and keep running t/Asset.t until it starts failing | 23:29 |
| @scrottie | yeah. | 23:29 |
| +perlDreamer | that way you can track down which commit did it in | 23:29 |
| +perlDreamer | Haarg, for version comparisons, won't a smart match do the right thing? | 23:32 |
| +perlDreamer | hm, but this isn't a match | 23:32 |
| +perlDreamer | Haarg: http://gist.github.com/417706 | 23:34 |
| +perlDreamer | should it use report instead of print? | 23:35 |
| +perlDreamer | Also, I think I'm sticking the gotchas for a version into every upgrade directory | 23:39 |
| +perlDreamer | to make people read them | 23:40 |
| +perlDreamer | Haarg, the POD looks great | 23:41 |
| +perlDreamer | aside from the Sub::Exporter magic, the code is clean and well-written (as always :) | 23:41 |
| +perlDreamer | I'm good with it | 23:41 |
| * perlDreamer is out for lunch, and kid pick up | 23:42 | |
| +perlDreamer | be back in 45 or so | 23:42 |
| @scrottie | one t/Asset.t test starts passing again. | 23:48 |
| @scrottie | I'm not seeing the lots of additional misc tests failures... or else I am seeing them unconditionally of version. | 23:48 |
| @scrottie | should have saved the test output before touching anything. | 23:48 |
| @scrottie | could be junk lingering in the database. | 23:49 |
| @frodwith | have I mentioned lately how much I love git add -i? | 23:51 |
| @scrottie | I just want to make sure that I'm seeing the same thing you're seeing... guess I should no-paste test output. | 23:51 |
| @scrottie | not lately, no. I think when I pick a git favorite feature, it'll have to be something suitably obscure. | 23:53 |
| @scrottie | but I still suck at it enough that that isn't yet possible... liking it or having an obscure favorite ;) | 23:54 |
| @frodwith | i don't know if it's my -favorite-, but it sure helps with backporting crap from trunk | 23:54 |
| @frodwith | "I'll take this hunk, and this one, but heavens no not that one" | 23:54 |
| @scrottie | multiple checkouts in different places and cherry picking between them is pretty damn cool. | 23:55 |
| @frodwith | can you cherry-pick parts of a commit? | 23:55 |
| @frodwith | i don't think you can | 23:55 |
| @scrottie | hrm? no, cherry picking commits... but between different clones of the repo | 23:56 |
| @scrottie | I can leave five or ten WebGUI checkouts laying around. | 23:56 |
| @scrottie | er, clones. | 23:56 |
| @scrottie | checkout in the CVS sense. bah. | 23:56 |
| @frodwith | i always feel kind of dirty having more than one clone | 23:56 |
| @frodwith | sometimes it's damn useful though | 23:57 |
| @scrottie | I love me some hot clone on clone kompare action. | 23:57 |
| @scrottie | http://webgui.pastebin.com/znLP62e5 ... t/Asset.t and other test failures. | 23:59 |
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| @scrottie | are my WebGUI8 test failures about on par for what you're seeing (perlDreamer, when you get back)? | 00:00 |
| @scrottie | think I'm going to go afk in a minute here and de-stink myself a bit. | 00:00 |
| Haarg | frodwith, git cherry-pick $commit && git reset HEAD && git add -i | 00:01 |
| Haarg | err | 00:01 |
| Haarg | git cherry-pick -n $commit && git reset HEAD && git add -i | 00:02 |
| @frodwith | what's the -n do | 00:02 |
| Haarg | short for --no-commit | 00:02 |
| @frodwith | ahso | 00:02 |
| @frodwith | yes, spose that would work :) | 00:03 |
| @scrottie | I'm pretty sure git is Turing complete. And I'm pretty sure I have absolutely no desire to prove it. | 00:03 |
| Haarg | like many things with git, the plumbing can do what you want with a bit of scripting | 00:04 |
| Haarg | you should see the scripts i have for converting the DBIx-Class repo from svn to git | 00:05 |
| Haarg | once that project is complete i'll have to post them somewhere | 00:06 |
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| +perlDreamer | scrottie, t/Asset.t should pass every test | 00:53 |
| +perlDreamer | it did this morning, and last night before I sync'ed up with the master repo | 00:53 |
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| @scrottie | that's fine... I can investigate and make sure it does, and pull those back out until it does... I just want to make sure that I'm seeing the same test failures you are and that I'm not causing failures for you that I'm not seeing myself. | 01:05 |
| +perlDreamer | off the top of my head, all these should pass: | 01:09 |
| +perlDreamer | t/Asset.t | 01:09 |
| +perlDreamer | t/Definition.t, t/Definition/Asset.t | 01:09 |
| +perlDreamer | run_asset.t | 01:09 |
| @scrottie | for some reason, it wasn't running t/Asset.t in the older version | 01:09 |
| +perlDreamer | odd | 01:09 |
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| @preaction | It's a good WebGUI day! | 17:32 |
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| +perlDreamer | Happy Memorial Day, all | 18:07 |
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| @preaction | do we have Try::Tiny in core yet? | 18:13 |
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| +perlDreamer | in WebGUI8, in the upgrades branch | 18:17 |
| +perlDreamer | although, I wouldn't doubt that some requirement for Moose uses it, too | 18:17 |
| @preaction | eh, not gonna rely then in 7.9 | 18:18 |
| +perlDreamer | got time to brainstorm about the Calendar, and all-day events? | 18:18 |
| @preaction | actually i gotta grep the codebase and migrate to getLineageIterator wherever possible | 18:19 |
| +perlDreamer | k | 18:19 |
| @preaction | i've already weakened all the session refs. and i'm running Devel::LeakTrace::Fast over the Export HTML process (which is a good exercise) | 18:20 |
| @preaction | i'd say check the DB to see if the asset got added multiple times, otherwise it's a problem with the getEventsIn method | 18:20 |
| +perlDreamer | I know | 18:20 |
| +perlDreamer | the problem is how to deal with i | 18:20 |
| +perlDreamer | it | 18:20 |
| +perlDreamer | preaction: is that a WebGUI8 project, or 7? | 18:22 |
| @preaction | 7.9 | 18:22 |
| @preaction | one of our clients is having problem with the export. it gets killed by the WRE monitor because it goes over memory budget | 18:22 |
| +perlDreamer | oy | 18:23 |
| @preaction | yeah, there's probably a blog post about all this testing i've been doing and stuff | 18:23 |
| @preaction | is the problem the timezone adjustment? all-day event lookup shouldn't be adjusted for timezone | 18:25 |
| +perlDreamer | yeah | 18:25 |
| +perlDreamer | I'm thinking it should pass dt objects to getEventsIn, and let it adjust for timezones for specific time events | 18:25 |
| @preaction | it should already accept that | 18:26 |
| @preaction | or at least, that was part of the plan | 18:26 |
| +perlDreamer | I don't think that part of the plan was implemented | 18:26 |
| +perlDreamer | and of course, during the great getEventsIn rewrite, I tested for all conditions, except that problem... | 18:30 |
| @preaction | didn't tavis say working with the Matrix during long ops tended to die? i think i'm fixing that right now | 19:05 |
| @preaction | perlDreamer: was Shelf you? | 19:22 |
| @preaction | no, but these lines are. line 294: my $properties = $child->get; do we need to push the full object onto @childSelves? | 19:23 |
| @preaction | 73 of 124 getLineage calls checked :p | 19:27 |
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| @scrottie | every time my linode goes down, I secretly hope that it's because Texas has succeeded from the union. | 19:44 |
| @scrottie | alas, it's always just datacenter woes. | 19:44 |
| @preaction | punintentional? | 19:44 |
| * scrottie spends 15 minutes looking for the pun... | 19:45 | |
| @preaction | succeeded/seceded | 19:45 |
| @scrottie | no. spelling ignorance. | 19:45 |
| @scrottie | thanks. | 19:46 |
| @preaction | damn. i'd consider it a success if they left ;p | 19:46 |
| @scrottie | yay! texas is gone, time to party! | 19:46 |
| @preaction | then we can finally release the Cure To All Diseases to the US! | 19:46 |
| +perlDreamer | preaction, the call to get was there originally | 19:58 |
| * perlDreamer only accepts blame for reformatting | 19:58 | |
| @preaction | right, but it looks like then we're putting the object itself into the array that goes to the template | 19:58 |
| @preaction | that can't be right | 19:58 |
| @preaction | i just touched almost every asset in webgui, so i got a lot of tests to write i expect... | 19:59 |
| @preaction | for being called ::Fast, Devel::LeakTrace::Fast isn't very fast... | 19:59 |
| +perlDreamer | s/$child/$properties/ | 20:01 |
| @preaction | okay, i'll add that as a seperate commit before the getLineageIterator migration | 20:02 |
| +perlDreamer | I can do it | 20:02 |
| +perlDreamer | I'll file a bug for it, and fix and then close it | 20:02 |
| @preaction | alright, then i'll revert mine | 20:02 |
| +perlDreamer | preaction, you're using the recommended coding style for getLineageIterator? | 20:02 |
| +perlDreamer | where you check for exceptions, and then undef? | 20:03 |
| @preaction | so in other words we just managed to add more obfuscation, not less | 20:03 |
| @preaction | no, i'll go back. is there an example somewhere? | 20:04 |
| +perlDreamer | see Asset.pm, getIsa | 20:05 |
| +perlDreamer | http://gist.github.com/420020 | 20:05 |
| +perlDreamer | sounds like my turn for a blog post... :) | 20:05 |
| @preaction | uh. getIsa isn't using getLineageIterator | 20:06 |
| +perlDreamer | of course not | 20:06 |
| +perlDreamer | it doesn't care about lineage | 20:07 |
| +perlDreamer | it gets EVERY asset in the db | 20:07 |
| +perlDreamer | it's faster than getLineageIterator that way | 20:07 |
| +perlDreamer | and more flexible, too | 20:07 |
| @preaction | okay, awesome, but 7 lines of boilerplate to use it? | 20:08 |
| +perlDreamer | it throws an exception if you can't instanciate the asset | 20:08 |
| +perlDreamer | it returns undef when it's done | 20:08 |
| +perlDreamer | if you can do it in fewer lines, that's awesome | 20:08 |
| @preaction | right, why do i need to catch? | 20:08 |
| +perlDreamer | what do you return if you can instanciate? | 20:08 |
| +perlDreamer | it's an iterator, you can't always loop internally | 20:09 |
| @preaction | the asset? i don't understand, loop internally? | 20:09 |
| +perlDreamer | Pretend you're an iterator | 20:10 |
| +perlDreamer | you've been asked to return an asset | 20:10 |
| +perlDreamer | so you call new on it | 20:10 |
| +perlDreamer | new pukes | 20:10 |
| +perlDreamer | which, depending on which new you use, either returns undef, or throws an exception | 20:11 |
| @preaction | but it doesn't work right, i throw an exception, why does my parent in the stack need to catch absolutely? can't i decided if i need to catch or not? | 20:11 |
| @preaction | getLineageIterator checks for undef and doesn't eval{} the ->new | 20:11 |
| @preaction | so it'll throw | 20:11 |
| +perlDreamer | it'll pass | 20:11 |
| @preaction | pass? | 20:11 |
| +perlDreamer | if it doesn't eval, it can't catch | 20:12 |
| @preaction | right, that's what i want. if something goes wrong i want it to throw | 20:12 |
| @preaction | and then i get to choose whether or not to catch | 20:12 |
| +perlDreamer | sure. But the right thing to do is catch in most cases | 20:12 |
| @preaction | why? | 20:13 |
| +perlDreamer | I don't want my Navigation to blow up if there's a damaged asset in my lineage | 20:13 |
| +perlDreamer | Neither my Folders, shelves, CS'es, Story Manager, Calendar | 20:13 |
| +perlDreamer | right now, before using the iterator, they work fine and log if there's a problem | 20:15 |
| +perlDreamer | using the iterator, undef is overloaded | 20:15 |
| +perlDreamer | it now means "done" and "error" | 20:15 |
| +perlDreamer | so you have to find a new way to signal "error" | 20:16 |
| @preaction | i understand, really. i'm just extremely pissed off at our database integrity | 20:16 |
| CIA-59 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r5a4bded / (docs/changelog/7.x.x.txt lib/WebGUI/Asset/Wobject/Shelf.pm): Fix a bug with Shelf template variables. Fixes bug #11603. - http://bit.ly/aA3RNU | 20:17 |
| +perlDreamer | I came up with another sekrit stealth project | 20:17 |
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| +perlDreamer | I want to build a Workflow Activity that checks all assets for integrity, and emails when it finds bad ones | 20:17 |
| +perlDreamer | so they can be cleaned up | 20:17 |
| @preaction | why couldn't it try to clean them up itself? | 20:18 |
| +perlDreamer | I guess it could, but it would make it harder to recover data | 20:18 |
| @preaction | and then notify that Asset X of type Y with title A and URL B (if I know them) was corrupt and cleaned up | 20:18 |
| @preaction | so keep it somewhere, just get rid of it from the normal flow of things | 20:19 |
| CIA-59 | webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.8 * rb2a7b87 / (docs/changelog/7.x.x.txt lib/WebGUI/Asset/Wobject/Shelf.pm): Fix a bug with Shelf template variables. Fixes bug #11603. - http://bit.ly/cdRg4V | 20:20 |
| +perlDreamer | it _is_ already gone from the site | 20:24 |
| @preaction | and if they were actually missing it, why haven't we got bug reports about this problem? | 20:25 |
| @preaction | perhaps it's a purge/trash not working correctly? | 20:25 |
| +perlDreamer | I don't know, but I haven't seen busted assets in a long time. | 20:25 |
| +perlDreamer | they pop-up during upgrades | 20:25 |
| +perlDreamer | and nothing I've upgraded from the 7.x series has shown that | 20:26 |
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| @preaction | just tested on Frozen, a whole slew of helpdesk tickets are completely screwed | 20:40 |
| +perlDreamer | core | 20:40 |
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| +perlDreamer | the words "helpdesk" and any negative adjective should not be a surprise | 20:40 |
| @preaction | oh. maybe because i didn't load the helpdesk libs | 20:42 |
| +perlDreamer | why should the helpdesk libs affect the brokenness of a ticket in the db? | 20:43 |
| @preaction | because ->new will return undef if the class can't be loaded | 20:44 |
| @preaction | so assetId exists, but ->new returns undef -- exact symptoms of broken asset | 20:44 |
| +perlDreamer | yup | 20:46 |
| +perlDreamer | maybe auto-delete isn't that good of an idea then | 20:46 |
| @preaction | probably not | 20:46 |
| +perlDreamer | although I did figure out where to store the left-over data | 20:46 |
| +perlDreamer | we could stash it as JSON in a cache somewhere | 20:46 |
| @preaction | right | 20:46 |
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| @preaction | pb.com doesn't have any broken assets, checking wg.org | 20:47 |
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| +perlDreamer | hey, Haarg! | 20:49 |
| Haarg | hey | 20:49 |
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| @khenn | preaction: frozen will probably require the bazaar stuff too | 21:17 |
| @khenn | if you haven't already run into that one | 21:18 |
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| @scrottie | I think I need to re-init the database or something drastic. Previously, it was finding one asset where it should have been finding two, on a keyword search. Now, both the pre-my-mucking-around version and the post-my-mucking-around version find zero. | 21:25 |
| @scrottie | I'd like to think its brain damage is self inflincted. | 21:25 |
| @khenn | do you have the resetdev script? | 21:25 |
| @preaction | wgd reset -d | 21:25 |
| @khenn | not sure if you are working with seeded data or not | 21:25 |
| @khenn | or that | 21:26 |
| @preaction | resetdev is deprecated, and has been for a year at least | 21:26 |
| @scrottie | yeah, was thinking of running wgd if that theory wasn't shot down. | 21:26 |
| @khenn | I rarely have a need for it any longer | 21:26 |
| @scrottie | okay, so far, so saner | 21:27 |
| +perlDreamer | scrottie, tests that die leave around assets, that will interfere with future tests | 21:28 |
| +perlDreamer | we also have testing code that checks for "leaky" tests that pass, but leave around assets | 21:28 |
| +perlDreamer | env WEBGUI_TEST_DEBUG=1 before running a test will enable the accounting code | 21:29 |
| @scrottie | yeah. I was "cleaning" by hand with the mysql shell. hmm, given that, self inflincted brain damage seems unlikely. I inflicted it. | 21:29 |
| +perlDreamer | or "wgd test" perhsaps? | 21:29 |
| @scrottie | interesting. | 21:29 |
| +perlDreamer | it tracks Assets, users, groups, workflows, workflow activities, carts, addresses, address books and a whole bunch of other things now | 21:29 |
| +perlDreamer | scrottie: see t/lib/WebGUI/Test.pm for details | 21:32 |
| @scrottie | okay, the %mergedProperties thing doing essentially $self->set( %{ $self->get } ) is needed to make that Asset.t test pass. that "cleanup" broke that. next time, I'm writing a bisect script with wgd reset -d in it. | 21:37 |
| @scrottie | still have some tests to write, tickets to create, etc. | 21:38 |
| +perlDreamer | Asset.t is good now? | 21:45 |
| @scrottie | going to do some lunch here. | 21:45 |
| @scrottie | yeah. do you want a push now? | 21:46 |
| +perlDreamer | let's check some more tests after lunch | 21:47 |
| @scrottie | sounds prudent. | 21:47 |
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| @preaction | i started wanting to fix a memory leak, and now i'm migrating stuff to new APIs and checking to make sure all assets on our hosted sites aren't broken | 21:57 |
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| @preaction | okay, how about I include an sbin utility that will interactively check all assets and let a sysadmin delete them after getting as much information as possible? | 22:00 |
| @preaction | that way when they start getting ObjectNotFound errors we can fix their database? | 22:00 |
| @preaction | i don't want to keep sweeping this problem under the rug, i want to reduce the number of code kludges | 22:00 |
| +perlDreamer | preaction, that sounds like the Workflow Activivity I was talking about earlier | 22:04 |
| +perlDreamer | I like it better as a workflow activity, because many users don't have shell access | 22:04 |
| @preaction | but then they also don't have the ability to fix their site | 22:05 |
| +perlDreamer | not until you add the "fix these assets" link to the Activity :P | 22:05 |
| @preaction | elitedesigns has broken assets from 2005, but nothing more recent | 22:05 |
| +perlDreamer | at least we have access to a corpus of sites for research like this | 22:06 |
| @preaction | exactly | 22:06 |
| @preaction | ... and the assetIds are the same across multiple sites... weird... | 22:09 |
| +perlDreamer | packages? | 22:11 |
| @preaction | i'm thinking templates someplace under the import node | 22:11 |
| @preaction | hmm... their parent doesn't exist | 22:12 |
| +perlDreamer | sounds like a broken purge | 22:12 |
| +perlDreamer | you can check the assetHistory table for that | 22:12 |
| +perlDreamer | since only the unbroken parts get logged | 22:12 |
| @preaction | which makes sense, as this box has a runaway monitor, and purge workflow doesn't have time checks | 22:13 |
| +perlDreamer | "didn't" have any time checks | 22:13 |
| @preaction | if i have a revisionDate i must have data in assetData, right? | 22:17 |
| +perlDreamer | yup | 22:17 |
| +perlDreamer | it's a pain, you have to check every table for multiple constraints | 22:18 |
| +perlDreamer | t/Asset/AssetDiagnose might be a good place to start | 22:18 |
| Haarg | http://gist.github.com/420173 | 22:20 |
| +perlDreamer | that's like doing WebGUI::Asset->getIsa() | 22:21 |
| +perlDreamer | although getIsa doesn't give you those nice diagnostics | 22:21 |
| Haarg | it also attempts to do a rudimentary job of repairing. enough to let you delete the asset at least. | 22:23 |
| Haarg | it should probably use previous revision data instead of nulls, but i never bothered to write that | 22:23 |
| * perlDreamer is reading Calendar->viewWeek, and having apopleptic fits | 22:25 | |
| @preaction | i'll add your fix stuff and add a "delete" function. | 22:29 |
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| +perlDreamer | six weeks since the spectre fix, and all seems to be well | 23:04 |
| @preaction | awesome! | 23:09 |
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| +perlDreamer | all through the gooey-verse, cron jobs are trembling in fear | 23:19 |
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