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CIA-38 | WebGUI: perlmonkey2 * r10600 /WebGUI/ (5 files in 4 dirs): Survey sections now have logical section type, which is never shown to the user, only used for silently checking gotos. | 00:15 |
CIA-38 | WebGUI: colin * r10601 /branch/WebGUI_7.6/lib/WebGUI/Asset/Sku/Product.pm: Backport removal of dead code in the Product Sku. | 00:15 |
CIA-38 | WebGUI: graham * r10602 /WebGUI/docs/upgrades/upgrade_7.7.4-7.7.5.pl: fix compile warnings | 00:15 |
CIA-38 | WebGUI: graham * r10603 /WebGUI/t/Asset/Wobject/Thingy.t: fix thingy test for field type being provided provided | 00:15 |
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@Haarg | bad monkey | 00:20 |
perlmonkey21 | what's up? | 00:35 |
@Haarg | broke a test. i have a fix already. | 00:36 |
perlmonkey21 | but I ran all the survey tests? | 00:36 |
@Haarg | https://svn.webgui.org/svnweb/plainblack/revision/?rev=10605 | 00:37 |
@Haarg | not sure why they passed for you | 00:37 |
CIA-38 | WebGUI: translation * r10604 /translations/German/German/Asset_StockData.pm: Update from translation server | 00:40 |
CIA-38 | WebGUI: graham * r10605 /WebGUI/t/Asset/Wobject/Survey/SurveyJSON.t: fix survey test | 00:40 |
CIA-38 | WebGUI: translation * r10606 /translations/German/German/Asset_Thingy.pm: Update from translation server | 00:40 |
@preaction | woot go German! | 00:40 |
perlmonkey21 | well crap it fails now. Must have missed that in the scroll. | 00:41 |
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+perlDreamer | perlmonkey21, how do you run tests? | 01:01 |
perlmonkey21 | perlDreamer: I go to the correct direction the type "perl file.t" | 01:02 |
perlmonkey21 | directory | 01:02 |
+perlDreamer | right at the bottom, it should tell you how many tests failed | 01:02 |
+perlDreamer | that way you don't have to scroll | 01:02 |
@Haarg | if you use prove it will be color coded | 01:02 |
@Haarg | prove alone will only report if it passed/failed, prove -v will show all the output but color coded | 01:03 |
+perlDreamer | Germans at 78.8% | 01:04 |
+perlDreamer | but the Dutch is clean down to 94.6 | 01:04 |
perlmonkey21 | hmm, I like prove | 01:05 |
perlmonkey21 | heh, nice prove -r *.t | 01:05 |
@Haarg | prove -r t | 01:06 |
@preaction | if you get cpan App::Prove, you'll get the latest prove which has the color coding | 01:20 |
@preaction | the one that comes with the WRE and perl 5.8 doesn't have as many fun features | 01:21 |
+perlDreamer | Using Crud's built in methods (getAll*), there doesn't appear to be a way to compare columns against one another using the constraints | 01:21 |
+perlDreamer | am I missing something? | 01:21 |
@preaction | try "col1 = col2" => [] maybe? | 01:22 |
+perlDreamer | sneaky. very sneaky | 01:22 |
+perlDreamer | preaction, Haarg, what do y'all think of this: http://jquelin.blogspot.com/2009/04/on-coders-and-translators.html | 01:29 |
@preaction | i think it's a great idea, especially the crowd-sourcing aspect | 01:30 |
@preaction | our i18n app is a good demonstration of that, and perhaps the code for our translationserver could be used by these guys to collect i18n strings | 01:31 |
+perlDreamer | I'll drop him a note | 01:32 |
+perlDreamer | At the very least, we could get a French translation | 01:32 |
+perlDreamer | apeiron is on the ironman elightened perl blog aggregator | 01:35 |
@Haarg | rather annoying when test modules have bugs in them | 01:48 |
+perlDreamer | which one is that? | 01:50 |
@Haarg | trying to add tests to wgdev and Test::Warn can't test warnings like warn "message\n" because the \n prevents the filename/line number from being added | 01:50 |
+perlDreamer | that's not Test::Warn's fault | 01:50 |
+perlDreamer | that's perl's fault | 01:50 |
@Haarg | how so? | 01:51 |
@Haarg | that's expected behavior of perl | 01:51 |
@Haarg | Test::Warn assumes the filename/line number will always be there | 01:51 |
+perlDreamer | oh, now I see | 01:52 |
@Haarg | i guess i can adjust my code to all be print {STDERR} instead | 01:53 |
+perlDreamer | what about just not appending \n to the end of your warnings? | 01:55 |
@Haarg | kind of ugly | 01:55 |
@Haarg | and what module and line it came from isn't relevant when it is a user error | 01:55 |
+perlDreamer | except most of your users are all developers who are on the command line | 01:56 |
@Haarg | that doesn't make the information any more relevant | 01:57 |
@Haarg | i guess i can use warning_like instead of warning_is | 02:00 |
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+perlDreamer | let's try this out | 02:29 |
+perlDreamer | patspam patspam patspam | 02:29 |
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+perlDreamer | mmmm, shiny new wgdev | 02:40 |
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@Haarg | i still have to do a lot of work on the intro command. it's pretty much empty, and isn't referenced anywhere like it needs to be. | 02:44 |
CIA-38 | WebGUI: graham * r10607 /WebGUI/docs/create.sql: preparing for 7.7.5 release | 02:46 |
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+patspam | praction: ping | 02:48 |
+perlDreamer | preaction: ping, too | 02:49 |
+perlDreamer | rerouting for patspam@webgui | 02:49 |
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CIA-38 | WebGUI: colin * r10608 /WebGUI/t/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Test clean-up for users and groups in Shop/Vendor and all Macro tests. | 03:06 |
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+perlDreamer | Haarg, since User, Group and Storage all have delete methods, would it make sense to just have objectsToDelete? | 03:10 |
+perlDreamer | hm, maybe not | 03:11 |
+perlDreamer | because in storagesToDelete, I set it up to accept objects or GUIDs | 03:11 |
+perlDreamer | oh well | 03:11 |
@Haarg | yeah | 03:11 |
@Haarg | aside from guids, it could work to just have a single method that detected the object type if needed | 03:11 |
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+perlDreamer | maybe we could have objectsToDelete, which takes objects | 03:20 |
+perlDreamer | and guidsToDelete, which takes guids and object types as an array ref | 03:20 |
@preaction | HA! I just figured out why I hate the admin accordian! In order to move between panes, you need to move your mouse the entire height of the page! | 03:20 |
+perlDreamer | that's a bummer, all right | 03:20 |
@preaction | but is it better than a fly-out menu? | 03:21 |
+perlDreamer | well, what if there were buttons on the top, and workspace down below in a fixed pattern? | 03:21 |
+perlDreamer | same idea, different spatial setup | 03:21 |
@preaction | and the active pane is highlighted somehow | 03:22 |
+perlDreamer | sure, indented, colored, blinking | 03:22 |
@preaction | reserve a max of 1/3 for the pane titles, and 2/3 for the pane content (i'm envisioning a world with more panes, like the quicklinks that dhelsten wants) | 03:23 |
+perlDreamer | guidsToDelete would get processed first, and just push more objects onto objects to delete | 03:23 |
+perlDreamer | preaction, how about instead of fixed buttons, a dropdown? | 03:24 |
+perlDreamer | that leaves the most screen real estate in the pane content | 03:24 |
@preaction | ahhhhh, very nice | 03:24 |
@preaction | and easy to do with YUI Menu | 03:24 |
+perlDreamer | what will the chief say? | 03:24 |
@preaction | i don't know | 03:24 |
@preaction | i'm thinking i build it and submit for approval | 03:25 |
+perlDreamer | well, if he doesn't like it, blame me since I can't be fired | 03:25 |
+perlDreamer | if he does like it, take all the credit for it | 03:25 |
+patspam | preaction: is CSS/JavaScript::Packer better than JavaScript/CSS::Minifier[::XS]? | 03:27 |
@preaction | patspam: HTML::Packer does JS and CSS automatically if the JS::Packer and CSS::Packer are installed | 03:27 |
@preaction | that's why i picked it | 03:27 |
+patspam | ah ok | 03:28 |
+perlDreamer | what about speed? | 03:28 |
@preaction | wasn't a factor in my decision. the ::Minifier and ::Packer were the only ones I found acceptable | 03:28 |
@preaction | also ::Packer supports de-minifying (for CSS at least) | 03:28 |
@preaction | and JS looks like, but not HTML | 03:29 |
@preaction | i want to add buttons to Template and Snippet to run their content through a tidy program someday | 03:31 |
@preaction | i should add the RFEs for that | 03:31 |
@preaction | when pb.com comes back from the 7.7.5 upgrade | 03:32 |
@Haarg | database has been restoring for 30 minutes :/ | 03:32 |
@preaction | it died that bad? | 03:33 |
@Haarg | upgrade crashed | 03:33 |
+perlDreamer | too many assetIds | 03:33 |
@Haarg | actually something with rssfromparent | 03:33 |
+perlDreamer | eek | 03:34 |
+perlDreamer | wait a sec | 03:34 |
+perlDreamer | that should have been dead a long time ago | 03:34 |
@Haarg | yes | 03:34 |
perlmonkey21 | wow, please tell me you can turn off html compression. | 03:35 |
+perlDreamer | in SVN, nothing except the 7.7.2 upgrade script references that | 03:36 |
@Haarg | it's due to some assets that still exist in the database | 03:36 |
@preaction | perlmonkey21: you can, on a per-template basis. i'm thinking of making the Debug Mode automatically turn off all compression | 03:37 |
@Haarg | oh fun | 03:37 |
@Haarg | the database is too large to restore or something | 03:37 |
+perlDreamer | that's bad | 03:37 |
+perlDreamer | how do you recover from that? | 03:37 |
@Haarg | not sure yet | 03:38 |
@preaction | Haarg: did you shut down everything except mysql on the box/ | 03:38 |
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* patspam goes to a meeting | 03:43 |
perlmonkey21 | This is the most incredible thing. Only my old survey templates will load. wgd reverting has brought up old templates. When I edit them, the new ones are there. But when I actually run the stupid thing, the old templates show up. | 03:46 |
@preaction | caching? | 03:47 |
perlmonkey21 | no, this started after I did svn revert | 03:48 |
perlmonkey21 | then wgd revert | 03:48 |
@preaction | browser cache? | 03:48 |
perlmonkey21 | been working for days with the new templates. | 03:48 |
@preaction | weirdness | 03:48 |
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@tavisto | preaction, we upgrading pb/wg sites right now? | 03:52 |
@Haarg | yeah | 03:53 |
@Haarg | a bit more painful that usual | 03:53 |
perlmonkey21 | patspam: I think there is something darker going on here. Look at the section edit template at the 4th from last line. That textarea should have a name "text" and id "texteditortarget", but when you go to edit a survey it will have an id of "sectiontext". Why would we both be seeing old templates? | 03:53 |
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@tavisto | ah okay, just wondering since both are unresponsive | 03:59 |
@tavisto | *tavis pulls out his rifle and decides if he should aim at haarg or preaction* | 03:59 |
@tavisto | hmmmm | 03:59 |
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perlmonkey21 | anyone with latest want to create a survey, try to edit it, see what the id is on the textarea in the form that shows up? | 04:09 |
@preaction | one sec | 04:09 |
perlmonkey21 | thanks | 04:09 |
@preaction | okay, which "Edit" button do you mean? the asset edit? | 04:12 |
perlmonkey21 | no | 04:13 |
perlmonkey21 | the edit the survey link | 04:13 |
@preaction | the id="sectionText"? | 04:13 |
perlmonkey21 | hah | 04:13 |
@preaction | is that good? | 04:14 |
+Radix-wrk | http://images.huffingtonpost.com/gen/77627/original.jpg | 04:14 |
perlmonkey21 | if you look at the template you will see that is texteditortarget or some such | 04:14 |
perlmonkey21 | something has gone *wrong* | 04:14 |
perlmonkey21 | the template is Section Edit | 04:14 |
perlmonkey21 | 4th from last line | 04:14 |
perlmonkey21 | Default Section Edit | 04:14 |
perlmonkey21 | Radix-wrk: that is hilarious | 04:15 |
perlmonkey21 | preaction: how could the latest template not be showing up? | 04:16 |
@tavisto | with the new widgets in wG, is it possible for people to use applications from a wG site externally on another website? | 04:17 |
@preaction | tavisto: they can fill out the form, but the form submits to the wG site | 04:18 |
@tavisto | (just a regular html website/intranet) | 04:18 |
@tavisto | is it only for dataforms then? | 04:18 |
@preaction | no, it's for any asset | 04:18 |
@preaction | you can see one page of it, but any links or forms will bring the user back to the wG site | 04:18 |
@tavisto | here is the question I was asked.... if I am understanding this correctly, the answer would be yes. (at least to some degree_ | 04:19 |
@tavisto | I have a question about WebGUI integration with a current HTML/CSS/ColdFusion built intranet. We are currently looking for a project and file management package that will work flawlessly with our current intranet. In regards to WebGui, does this package require one to remove all HTML built pages or can WebGui work side by side with them? We have spent a lot of time building and designing our new intranet and completely replaci | 04:19 |
+perlDreamer | it can work side by side with them, using passThruUrls and HttpProxy | 04:19 |
@preaction | webgui can work side-by-side, and yes even INSIDE of an existing site | 04:20 |
@preaction | and webgui can be a wrapper around an existing site | 04:20 |
@tavisto | my response is that they can install the WRE on the same or separate server and then it would be possible for people to widgetize assets or externally link to the pages, or even do an iframe to the content | 04:20 |
@preaction | really any way they want to do it they can get it done | 04:20 |
@tavisto | alright coolio, thanks. It's for accuquote.com so that would be neat to reel them in | 04:21 |
@preaction | perlmonkey21: i deleted the revision that the id="surveyText" was in, and it STILL shows up | 04:22 |
perlmonkey21 | I've wgd'd reverted it, and there is no revision except the good one. | 04:22 |
@preaction | tavisto: yeah that'd be great! upsell the training! | 04:23 |
@preaction | SEND ME, WEBGUI EVANGELIST, AROUND THE WORLD! | 04:23 |
@tavisto | well we may need to start with a developer call with them.. | 04:23 |
@tavisto | a free pre-sales one.. because I don't know what they want really | 04:23 |
perlmonkey21 | preaction: I mean where is it getting the text? There is only a single assetId for that template, and only a single entry in Templates with that assetId. How is it magically getting something else. | 04:24 |
@tavisto | they need to specify what the crap they want to do.. and then you or rizen can give thumbs up down blah blah | 04:24 |
@preaction | i'd offer myself to you, but you have to go through the proper channels | 04:24 |
@preaction | MY LIFE FOR YOU tavisto | 04:24 |
@preaction | perlmonkey21: there has to be a simple explanation for this | 04:24 |
@tavisto | yeah it's no problemo. I usually have Rizen in on those calls anyway. If he can't make it then you're next in line | 04:25 |
perlmonkey21 | magic | 04:25 |
@preaction | there is no magic, just technology we don't understand | 04:25 |
perlmonkey21 | an evil dark magic. the kind that originates in Texas. | 04:25 |
@tavisto | and I shall call him...... Mini-Riz | 04:25 |
perlmonkey21 | preaction: if there is only a single template in the db with that assetId, where would it be getting this old template from? | 04:26 |
@preaction | perhaps the ID is being set by some other method? | 04:26 |
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perlmonkey21 | naw, not unless someone has sabotaged the code. | 04:28 |
perlmonkey21 | it doesn't change its templates | 04:28 |
perlmonkey21 | and the default template in code matches the one in the databse. | 04:28 |
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perlmonkey21 | I mean there are only 3 templates in the database with the correct namespace. 1 is the correct, and the 2 others would at least get that element correct. | 04:30 |
@Haarg | it would be nice if they stopped making the sourceforge website worse all the time | 04:30 |
perlmonkey21 | github will make it obsolete | 04:31 |
@preaction | select assetId from template where template LIKE "%sectionText%" | 04:31 |
@preaction | Empty set (0.02 sec) | 04:31 |
@preaction | wtf is this noise? | 04:31 |
perlmonkey21 | Texas | 04:31 |
@preaction | the template DOES NOT EXIST | 04:31 |
@preaction | i even did "ack sectionText lib www" and nothing comes up | 04:32 |
@preaction | my browser cache has been cleaned, and is disabled | 04:32 |
@preaction | i've cleared the webgui cache | 04:32 |
@tavisto | preaction, I'm not sure about the training in DC... I just heard back from the contact and they're trying to install wG on solaris | 04:32 |
perlmonkey21 | Not even Darth Vader could pull this off. Something fowl is afoot. I blame Donald Duck! | 04:32 |
perlmonkey21 | preaction: yes, I did all that. I've rm'd the cache in both locations from the CLI, just to make sure. | 04:33 |
@preaction | tavisto: so that's what all the stuff on the forums is. shouldn't be a problem really | 04:33 |
@tavisto | they are interested in a support contract but it looks like we aren't really keen on doing that | 04:33 |
@tavisto | not sure, I'm entirely too busy to check the forums lately. However, they are really interested in using WebGUI.. it's just tough since they want to use that. | 04:34 |
@tavisto | And they're doing a source install | 04:34 |
perlmonkey21 | preaction: what is exceptionally crazy, is this is happening to everyone. Not limited to a single instance. | 04:34 |
@preaction | tavisto: that also shouldn't be a real problem, provided they know what they're doing. someone on-site for a day or three of training could tell them what they're doing ;) | 04:34 |
@tavisto | that's the problem | 04:35 |
@tavisto | I don't think the install is going at all. | 04:35 |
perlmonkey21 | crap, i guess I should start putting in traces in the calls for the template | 04:35 |
@tavisto | and when I asked them if they're willing to switch to another platform.. the answer was.... uh.... don't think so | 04:35 |
perlmonkey21 | frak me | 04:35 |
@tavisto | however, the good news is that they are approved to use WebGUI. Sounds like that's quite a bit of work to get to that point | 04:36 |
* perlDreamer calls the oklahoma chapter of the Frak Perlmonkey Brotherhood | 04:36 |
@tavisto | my contact had a friend in the NSA who was like... "webgui... oh yeah we use it and love it" | 04:36 |
@tavisto | so it helps to have those friends in high level secret security organizations | 04:36 |
@preaction | afaik there isn't any real problems with Apache 2 and mod_perl2 on a modern solaris | 04:36 |
@tavisto | rizen said that previously we only had 1 client who used solaris... then they switched b/c they couldn't keep mysql stable | 04:37 |
@preaction | ah, so mysql is the problem | 04:37 |
@tavisto | yep | 04:38 |
@tavisto | and since this is going to be a high profile govie site.. we can't really risk it | 04:38 |
@tavisto | and I can't exactly sell someone a best-effort support contract :) | 04:38 |
+perlDreamer | what arcane perl incantation is supposed to remove a session object from the database | 04:39 |
@preaction | yeah, there are a lot of fun notes about Solaris and MySQL | 04:39 |
@preaction | perlDreamer: $session->delete maybe? | 04:39 |
@tavisto | i was surprised that there wasn't any solaris install instructions on the wiki.. | 04:40 |
+perlDreamer | nope | 04:40 |
+perlDreamer | tavisto, Sun is being bought for a reason | 04:40 |
+Radix-wrk | should be easy since they're all owned by sun, but never that easy really is it | 04:40 |
+perlDreamer | and it's not solaris | 04:40 |
@preaction | yeah, even making solaris open-source is not saving it | 04:40 |
+Radix-wrk | I have a friend who works for sun on mysql - if you tell me what the problem is specifically I can ask him about it at least and see what he knows. | 04:41 |
+perlDreamer | hm it says that var->end is supposed to do it | 04:41 |
@preaction | yeah, that's what the Delete Expired Sessions does | 04:41 |
perlmonkey21 | is the htmlpacker cacheing thsi stuff on disk? | 04:42 |
@Haarg | the asset with sectionText in it is 1oBRscNIcFOI-pETrCOspA | 04:42 |
@preaction | perlmonkey21: template and templatePacked in the database | 04:42 |
@preaction | hell | 04:42 |
@preaction | there it is | 04:42 |
@preaction | but why | 04:42 |
@preaction | is there some limitation of the "filter" property in the definition? | 04:43 |
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@Haarg | i think html::packer is going to have to go | 04:44 |
@Haarg | there are too many possible problems with it that aren't obvious | 04:44 |
@preaction | i've got it: when update() gets called, the filter gets called, but then the templatePacked gets updated | 04:45 |
CIA-38 | WebGUI: graham * r10609 /releases/WebGUI_7.7.5-beta: Release 7.7.5-beta | 04:45 |
+perlDreamer | needs tests | 04:45 |
* perlDreamer is starting to sound like a broken record | 04:45 |
+perlDreamer | I don't even listen to myself anymore! | 04:45 |
@preaction | i was thinking how to test it without using it | 04:46 |
@Haarg | i don't think there's a reasonable way it can ever be enabled for templates | 04:46 |
@preaction | why? they work. the only problem is that the templatePacked is getting overwritten with bad data right now | 04:46 |
+perlDreamer | you know, just something simple like s/^\s+//; would be good | 04:46 |
@Haarg | http://www.plainblack.com/pr <- or that templates are not html | 04:46 |
@preaction | so set that template to not use the packed version | 04:47 |
perlmonkey21 | I have no idea what's going on. | 04:47 |
@Haarg | after you see the problem | 04:47 |
@preaction | we can update the upgrade to not set the usePacked flag | 04:47 |
@Haarg | and happen to know that it is due to packing | 04:47 |
@preaction | so packing will still happen, but it would have to be explicitly enabled to avoid problems like that | 04:48 |
@Haarg | maybe | 04:48 |
@preaction | you can fix pb.com by doing "UPDATE template SET usePacked=0" and "delete from cache" | 04:48 |
@Haarg | still seems too problematic to me | 04:48 |
@preaction | with setting usePacked=0, nothing has changed at all | 04:48 |
perlmonkey21 | Haarg: I just looked at that template and there is no sectionText in it. | 04:48 |
@preaction | perlmonkey21: look at templatePacked, that's where it is | 04:49 |
perlmonkey21 | ah crap | 04:49 |
@preaction | i'm working on a fix and a test | 04:49 |
perlmonkey21 | that's what you guys were talking about | 04:49 |
perlmonkey21 | okay...whew. | 04:49 |
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perlmonkey21 | groovy | 04:49 |
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+perlDreamer | Haarg, I'm guessing you're up to your eyebrows in bugs. The SQL queries for bugs and RFEs on the participate page are borked. | 04:50 |
@Haarg | hmm | 04:50 |
@Haarg | those were definitely working at some point | 04:50 |
+perlDreamer | sure, just earlier today | 04:50 |
@Haarg | working now? | 04:52 |
@preaction | yes | 04:53 |
+perlDreamer | no | 04:53 |
+perlDreamer | look at the top 2 RFEs | 04:54 |
+perlDreamer | they haven't been touched in months or longer | 04:54 |
+perlDreamer | yet they show up above things that were submitted today | 04:54 |
+perlDreamer | similar with bugs | 04:54 |
+perlDreamer | similarly with bugs | 04:54 |
+perlDreamer | oh, this is totally evil! | 04:56 |
+perlDreamer | I guess I'm going to make sessionToDelete next | 04:57 |
@Haarg | i think version tag would be good | 04:57 |
@Haarg | since it would take care of cleaning up assets as well | 04:57 |
+perlDreamer | if you make an object that takes a session variable, and delete that session variable, and then try to delete the object, it revivifies the session object! | 04:58 |
@Haarg | i think i ran into that before | 04:59 |
+perlDreamer | if this is true, then I think we have a problem | 04:59 |
+perlDreamer | because session->var is not the last thing destroyed | 05:00 |
+perlDreamer | in session->close | 05:00 |
@Haarg | it depends on the object | 05:01 |
@Haarg | it's only going to cause a problem if they try to do work when destroyed/deleted/etc | 05:01 |
@Haarg | errorhandler doesn't do anything on destroy | 05:01 |
+perlDreamer | yeah, I think I'm just worrying too much about the circular nature of the references | 05:03 |
+perlDreamer | well, time to build sessionsToDelete | 05:03 |
@Haarg | need a break. been dealing with this upgrade for at least 6 hours today. | 05:07 |
+perlDreamer | take 50, you've earned it | 05:09 |
CIA-38 | WebGUI: colin * r10610 /WebGUI/t/ (5 files in 3 dirs): | 05:22 |
CIA-38 | WebGUI: Add method to clean up test sessions. This has to be done | 05:22 |
CIA-38 | WebGUI: after ALL other types of objects have been cleaned up. | 05:22 |
CIA-38 | WebGUI: More test clean-up for users, groups and sessions. | 05:22 |
CIA-38 | WebGUI: colin * r10611 /WebGUI/t/ (6 files in 5 dirs): | 05:38 |
CIA-38 | WebGUI: Test cleanups. | 05:38 |
CIA-38 | WebGUI: Fix a leaking group in Asset/Post/permission.t. Threads do not clean | 05:38 |
CIA-38 | WebGUI: up their groups when they are purged. | 05:38 |
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@preaction | is there a standard way to prevent a property from being updated through update()? | 06:05 |
CIA-38 | WebGUI: colin * r10612 /WebGUI/t/Asset/ (6 files in 4 dirs): Another batch of clean-ups for users and groups. | 06:11 |
@preaction | nm, it has to be during addRevision | 06:11 |
+perlDreamer | it's hopeless | 06:25 |
@preaction | hmm? | 06:26 |
+perlDreamer | trying to get shipping API documentation | 06:26 |
@preaction | bastards | 06:26 |
+perlDreamer | preaction, thank you for being so conscientious in cleaning up things made in your test. | 06:28 |
@preaction | you mean fixing how i broke all of webgui? | 06:29 |
+perlDreamer | no | 06:31 |
+perlDreamer | I've been looking at some of your gallery tests, and mech tests | 06:31 |
+perlDreamer | and you do a good job of cleaning up users, groups, assets and version tags | 06:32 |
@preaction | ahh, yeah | 06:32 |
+perlDreamer | no, what happened today was almost worthy of a Kuskie-level mess | 06:32 |
+perlDreamer | close, but not quite | 06:32 |
+perlDreamer | you didn't destroy any websites and no one cursed at you | 06:32 |
@preaction | yeah, i've borked webgui worse than this | 06:34 |
@preaction | this was easy to fix even | 06:34 |
@preaction | the upgrade problems weren't the fault of this | 06:34 |
+perlDreamer | 37 files later... | 06:36 |
+perlDreamer | the User and Group clean-ups are done | 06:36 |
+perlDreamer | now, to go back and look for Storage | 06:37 |
+perlDreamer | maybe another night, between struggling with the government, kids, cats and just regular work, I'm beat | 06:40 |
CIA-38 | WebGUI: colin * r10613 /WebGUI/t/ (7 files in 6 dirs): Last batch of User and Group cleanups. | 06:40 |
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CIA-38 | WebGUI: doug * r10614 /WebGUI/docs/ (3 files in 2 dirs): reverted usePacked. you can re-enable it carefully. | 07:05 |
CIA-38 | WebGUI: doug * r10615 /WebGUI/lib/WebGUI.pm: Beginning 7.7.6 dev | 07:05 |
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CIA-38 | WebGUI: translation * r10616 /translations/German/German/ (5 files): Update from translation server | 08:22 |
CIA-38 | WebGUI: translation * r10617 /translations/German/German/Asset.pm: Update from translation server | 08:22 |
CIA-38 | WebGUI: translation * r10618 /translations/German/German/Asset_Event.pm: Update from translation server | 08:22 |
CIA-38 | WebGUI: translation * r10619 /translations/German/German/ (PayDriver_Cash.pm Shop.pm): Update from translation server | 08:45 |
CIA-38 | WebGUI: translation * r10620 /translations/German/German/ (WebGUI.pm PayDriver.pm): Update from translation server | 08:45 |
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CIA-38 | WebGUI: translation * r10621 /translations/German/German/ (2 files): Update from translation server | 09:09 |
CIA-38 | WebGUI: translation * r10622 /translations/German/German/Shop.pm: Update from translation server | 09:09 |
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CIA-38 | WebGUI: translation * r10623 /translations/German/German/Shop.pm: Update from translation server | 09:35 |
CIA-38 | WebGUI: translation * r10624 /translations/German/German/Shop.pm: Update from translation server | 10:01 |
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CIA-23 | WebGUI: translation * r10625 /translations/German/German/ (6 files): Update from translation server | 11:49 |
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CIA-23 | WebGUI: translation * r10626 /translations/German/German/Shop.pm: Update from translation server | 12:18 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: translation * r10627 /translations/German/German/PassiveAnalytics.pm: Update from translation server | 12:18 |
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CIA-23 | WebGUI: translation * r10629 /translations/German/notes.txt: Update from translation server | 13:01 |
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CIA-23 | WebGUI: translation * r10630 /translations/French/ (9 files in 2 dirs): Update from translation server | 13:22 |
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CIA-23 | WebGUI: translation * r10631 /translations/French/French/ (Account_Profile.pm Account_Shop.pm Account_Friends.pm): Update from translation server | 14:09 |
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CIA-23 | WebGUI: translation * r10632 /translations/Russian/ (31 files in 2 dirs): Update from translation server | 14:40 |
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CIA-23 | WebGUI: translation * r10633 /translations/French/French/ (Account_Contributions.pm Account_Friends.pm): Update from translation server | 15:18 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: translation * r10634 /translations/French/French/Workflow_Activity_PurgeOldInboxMessages.pm: Update from translation server | 15:18 |
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CIA-23 | WebGUI: translation * r10639 /translations/French/French/Workflow_Activity_ExpireIncompleteSurveyResponses.pm: Update from translation server | 16:14 |
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CIA-23 | WebGUI: translation * r10641 /translations/French/French/Account_User.pm: Update from translation server | 16:14 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: translation * r10642 /translations/French/French/Account_Contributions.pm: Update from translation server | 16:14 |
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+perlDreamer | hey, BartJol! | 17:47 |
+BartJol | jo | 17:47 |
+BartJol | this time I really am here | 17:48 |
+BartJol | ho's life? | 17:48 |
+perlDreamer | Life is okay | 17:48 |
+perlDreamer | been sick the last week | 17:48 |
+BartJol | not good | 17:48 |
+BartJol | but better now? | 17:48 |
+perlDreamer | No, but it is over | 17:48 |
+perlDreamer | How about you? | 17:49 |
+BartJol | good | 17:49 |
+perlDreamer | Putting big holes into the new house? | 17:49 |
+BartJol | well, my house is going ok | 17:49 |
+BartJol | yeah | 17:49 |
+BartJol | seen the pictures? | 17:49 |
+BartJol | I put some on my site wednesday | 17:49 |
+perlDreamer | no, I'll go look | 17:49 |
+BartJol | maybe I should internationalise my site | 17:49 |
+BartJol | it a big mess right now | 17:50 |
+BartJol | but I like the missing walls | 17:50 |
+BartJol | it looks a lot more roomy now | 17:50 |
+perlDreamer | what's this one: http://www.bartjol.nl/uploads/58/18/581890edd90e252bcd2b487db7d00f73/DSC00491.JPG | 17:51 |
+perlDreamer | is that the main electrical panel? | 17:52 |
+BartJol | my old electricity meter | 17:52 |
+BartJol | yeah | 17:52 |
+BartJol | but that one is mostly gone now | 17:52 |
+perlDreamer | it is good to have friends to help | 17:55 |
+BartJol | I know | 17:55 |
+BartJol | well, and I helped a lot of people in the past, which helps me now, good brings good | 17:57 |
+BartJol | there is even a guy that wants to come from Romania especially to help me move | 17:58 |
+perlDreamer | that's awesome! | 17:58 |
+BartJol | but his movement was a really tough one | 17:58 |
+perlDreamer | danger, danger. chicks with splitting mauls! | 17:59 |
+BartJol | we have a group of friends that get insulted when you don't let them help[ moving | 17:59 |
+BartJol | yeah, that's the girlfriend of my roommate | 18:00 |
+BartJol | they were so kind to move 2 walls into a more dispersed pile of rubble, enlarging the enthropy in my house | 18:02 |
+perlDreamer | well, even though you've moved your hacking into another realm, it's good to see that you're keeping up | 18:12 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: translation * r10645 /translations/German/German/ (4 files): Update from translation server | 18:13 |
+BartJol | :) | 18:25 |
+BartJol | going to coomk | 18:25 |
+BartJol | cook | 18:25 |
+perlDreamer | went to eat breakfast | 18:27 |
+perlDreamer | Haarg, svn del https://svn.webgui.org/plainblack/branch/WebGUI_Story look right to you? | 18:40 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: translation * r10646 /translations/German/German/ (Shop.pm Asset_Template.pm): Update from translation server | 18:45 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: translation * r10647 /translations/German/German/Asset_Product.pm: Update from translation server | 18:45 |
+perlDreamer | BartJol, somebody is doing a huge amount of work translating German | 18:45 |
+perlDreamer | they are nearing 79% | 18:46 |
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+BartJol | perlDreamer: 79? oops | 18:50 |
+BartJol | getting skakky | 18:50 |
+BartJol | slakky | 18:50 |
+perlDreamer | no, the Germans are doing great | 18:50 |
+perlDreamer | Dutch is only down to about 92.4% or so | 18:50 |
+BartJol | I know | 18:50 |
+perlDreamer | but you have a house to work on, so keep your priorities straight | 18:51 |
+BartJol | but I am getting too far behinf | 18:51 |
+BartJol | I will | 18:51 |
+perlDreamer | maybe we should make your student perlmonkey2 do some Dutch translating while you're on brake | 18:52 |
+BartJol | stable is up to 98.1 | 18:52 |
+perlDreamer | stable is fine, it's just beta | 18:53 |
+perlmonkey2 | nee | 18:53 |
+perlmonkey2 | nee ik zal niet | 18:53 |
+BartJol | yeah and rory and Bob from alpha mega will help | 18:53 |
+BartJol | wat zal je niet perlmonkey2? | 18:54 |
+perlmonkey2 | Heeft uw hond zoals de banjo? | 18:54 |
+BartJol | I got that message a lot in the survey... | 18:54 |
+perlmonkey2 | vertalen | 18:54 |
+perlmonkey2 | hahaha | 18:54 |
+BartJol | but a nice outsourcing to the Netherlands will be nice, won't it? | 18:55 |
+perlmonkey2 | In het jaar 2020, disco zal de wereld regeren. | 18:55 |
+perlmonkey2 | but of course | 18:56 |
+perlmonkey2 | If I spoke Dutch. | 18:56 |
+BartJol | well, a laptop with connection and bablefish will get you somewhere | 18:56 |
+BartJol | probably the hospital | 18:56 |
+perlmonkey2 | yeah, with people wondering why the hover help is asking them if their dogs likes the banjo :P | 18:57 |
+BartJol | like was translated in the wrong manner btw | 18:57 |
+BartJol | more in "it's like that" | 18:57 |
+BartJol | instead of "I like perlmonkey2 for his deep voice" | 18:58 |
+perlmonkey2 | Ah, I see the difference. | 18:58 |
+perlmonkey2 | That's what all the tall vikings say, though. | 18:59 |
+BartJol | now it's "has your dog in a manner of a banjo" | 18:59 |
+perlDreamer | only when he's properly tuned | 18:59 |
+BartJol | how do protect yourself from vikings perlmonkey2? | 19:01 |
+perlmonkey2 | I sing softly to them. | 19:01 |
+perlDreamer | in his deep voice | 19:01 |
+perlmonkey2 | I find Britney Spears' songs work well. | 19:01 |
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+BartJol | :) | 19:02 |
+BartJol | hee, it's metroman | 19:02 |
+BartJol | food's in the oven, so a have half an hour to bug him! | 19:03 |
+perlDreamer | Haarg, it looks like previousVersion.sql hasn't been updated, and it may have uncovered a bug in the upgrade process | 19:03 |
+perlDreamer | I'm only getting config changes for the first upgrade script | 19:04 |
+perlDreamer | nm | 19:04 |
+perlDreamer | it's because I'm an idiot, and put my wgd switches in the wrong order | 19:04 |
+BartJol | no, you're not an idiot | 19:05 |
+perlDreamer | I'm not? | 19:05 |
+BartJol | provided you are still not using emacs | 19:05 |
+perlDreamer | bite your tongue! | 19:05 |
+perlDreamer | better yet, have perlmonkey2's dog bite your tongue | 19:05 |
+BartJol | I'll wash it with green soap | 19:05 |
+BartJol | yugh! | 19:06 |
+perlDreamer | that depends | 19:06 |
+perlmonkey2 | My dog is 18 years old and his teeth are mostly gone. | 19:06 |
+perlDreamer | is the soap normally green? | 19:06 |
+BartJol | doctors forbid me to come to close to banjo-playing dogs | 19:06 |
+BartJol | well, normally is subjective | 19:06 |
+BartJol | but for soap it is | 19:07 |
+perlDreamer | one time I found some brown/tan soap | 19:07 |
+perlDreamer | after we washed it, it was white again | 19:07 |
+BartJol | mmm | 19:07 |
+BartJol | maybe you should wash more often | 19:07 |
* perlDreamer washes twice a day | 19:08 |
+perlDreamer | once in the morning, and once after a workout | 19:08 |
ryuu_ro | BartJol: was this a call for some translating help? | 19:08 |
+perlDreamer | because Mrs. perlDreamer will not allow me into the living room after a workout without a shower | 19:08 |
+BartJol | sure, if you want it to be | 19:08 |
+BartJol | ryuu_ro: you do have a hangover I hope | 19:09 |
ryuu_ro | why? | 19:09 |
+BartJol | oh and my car is fixed | 19:09 |
+BartJol | eeh, because it was queensday yesterday | 19:09 |
ryuu_ro | yeah, but I didn't go to disco herman | 19:09 |
+BartJol | or did you strike because of the accident | 19:09 |
+BartJol | me neither | 19:10 |
ryuu_ro | so I feel perfectly fine | 19:10 |
ryuu_ro | :) | 19:10 |
ryuu_ro | no, i was working today. Only not at the office | 19:10 |
+BartJol | really starnge that my car doens't make any squeeky noices anymore | 19:10 |
+BartJol | when I shift gear | 19:10 |
ryuu_ro | did you own a black suzuki swift? ;) | 19:10 |
+BartJol | no a white opel astra, you know that! | 19:11 |
+BartJol | always thought that swift drivers were suspicious | 19:11 |
ryuu_ro | true that, but I thought that you were behind the attack of yesterday | 19:11 |
+BartJol | why? | 19:11 |
ryuu_ro | it sounded like your kind of thing :) | 19:11 |
+BartJol | I like the royal family, it gives you an excuse to get toatlly wasted once a year | 19:12 |
ryuu_ro | but then i was still thinking it was a drinking and driving accident | 19:12 |
+BartJol | me thinks tavisto is scared of me | 19:12 |
ryuu_ro | why, he has unbelievable super powers | 19:13 |
ryuu_ro | according to your comic | 19:13 |
+BartJol | well, but making people look like brad pitt doesn't scare me | 19:13 |
+BartJol | I saw him do it once | 19:13 |
ryuu_ro | but what if he want's to make you look like Brad Pitt | 19:14 |
ryuu_ro | that kinda scares me | 19:14 |
+BartJol | I'd rather look like Johnny Depp | 19:14 |
+perlDreamer | I thought you were Johnny Depp? | 19:15 |
+BartJol | no, I only share his brithday | 19:15 |
@preaction | Johnny Depp is like 5'6". you don't want to be that short | 19:15 |
+BartJol | well, I won't hit my head as often | 19:15 |
ryuu_ro | in pirates or in sweeney todd btw? | 19:15 |
@preaction | Compared to you, im as tall as Johnny Depp is compared to me | 19:15 |
@preaction | no, in real life he's 5'6", that's why he only works with short female actresses | 19:16 |
+BartJol | his birthday isn't movie depending | 19:16 |
@preaction | i live in oshkosh, where they shot some scenes for Public Enemies. they had a call for extras, but i'm too tall | 19:17 |
ryuu_ro | no but then I know if you want to be a half dead drunk pirate or a singing and murdering hairdresser | 19:17 |
+perlDreamer | he's not half dead, he's "mostly dead" | 19:17 |
+BartJol | apart from the singing, I like the hardresser better | 19:17 |
ryuu_ro | true :) | 19:18 |
+BartJol | I am not a public enemy, I didn't try to kill the royal family. I did see Public Enemy one time though | 19:19 |
+perlDreamer | close enough | 19:20 |
+BartJol | prolly I will be too tall too then | 19:20 |
+BartJol | criminals are trying to put BA's mom out of her apartment, wonder how it will finish | 19:23 |
+perlDreamer | who is "BA"? | 19:23 |
+BartJol | mr T | 19:23 |
+BartJol | in the A-team | 19:23 |
* perlDreamer guesses that BA will pity them | 19:24 |
+BartJol | he will, but my food is ready | 19:25 |
+BartJol | so till later | 19:25 |
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+perlmonkey2 | catching up on that scroll was painful. | 19:46 |
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* perlDreamer thinks it's cool that Queen Beatrix rides a bicycle. Sounds very down to earth. | 20:00 |
+BartJol | well, she doesn't do that always | 20:01 |
+BartJol | but she's cool | 20:01 |
+perlDreamer | Do they have any idea why that guy tried to run into her bus? | 20:03 |
+BartJol | it seems he held a grudge against the royal family | 20:04 |
+BartJol | but getting more info will be hard, since he died | 20:05 |
+perlDreamer | yeah, crashing your car into a bus can make that happen | 20:05 |
+BartJol | it wasn't a bus | 20:05 |
+BartJol | it was a pillar | 20:05 |
+BartJol | not less deadly | 20:06 |
+perlDreamer | pillars are worse | 20:06 |
dhelsten | you're sure he didn't have a grudge against pillars? | 20:07 |
+BartJol | no | 20:07 |
+BartJol | but it seems he said something about the royal family | 20:08 |
* perlDreamer heads off for gym and lunch, be back much later this afternoon | 20:21 |
+perlDreamer | for all you European types, happy house hacking! | 20:22 |
+BartJol | by | 20:22 |
+BartJol | ee | 20:22 |
@preaction | perlDreamer: do you have any "How-tos" on tests? | 20:31 |
+BartJol | he's out | 20:35 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: hao * r10648 /WebGUI/ (4 files in 4 dirs): RFE #9998, mark selected inbox messages as read/unread. | 20:37 |
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+BartJol | ryuu_ro: beer? | 21:19 |
@tavisto | nope, he's doing the opposite of beer... Working out at the gym | 21:19 |
ryuu_ro | unfortanely no, I have to go to my house and put a floor in | 21:19 |
+BartJol | ah | 21:20 |
ryuu_ro | see you later guys! | 21:20 |
+BartJol | perlDreamer: is working out | 21:20 |
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CIA-23 | WebGUI: graham * r10649 /WebGUI/docs/previousVersion.sql: updating previousVersion for 7.7.6 dev | 21:43 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: doug * r10650 /WebGUI/ (67 files in 11 dirs): fixed: #9897. Fixed problem with highlighting in codearea. Updated EditArea to version 0.8.1.1 | 21:43 |
dhelsten | preaction: you there? I need to upgrade but will need to change my files back. | 21:47 |
@preaction | dhelsten: do you still have the package i gave you? that should do it iirc | 21:48 |
dhelsten | you mean remove the package... | 21:48 |
@preaction | wait, what did i say? was it adding a package or deleting a revision? | 21:49 |
@preaction | i think you have to delete the revision | 21:49 |
dhelsten | that is more likely. As I recall the package didn't work. I just need to jump back to the revision that had the simple <dragger icon> or whatever it read, right? | 21:50 |
@preaction | yeah | 21:50 |
dhelsten | I also made a change in the calendar.pm file. I assume that will be overwritten with the fixed version so I don't need to do anything, right? | 21:51 |
@preaction | dhelsten: yes | 21:57 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: doug * r10651 /WebGUI/www/extras/editarea/ (21 files in 3 dirs): really fixed brainfuck problem | 22:07 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: doug * r10652 /branch/WebGUI_7.6/ (67 files in 11 dirs): merged 10650 | 22:07 |
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@tavisto | wow let's keep it PG Preaction!! | 22:23 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: doug * r10653 /branch/WebGUI_7.6/www/extras/editarea/ (21 files in 3 dirs): merged 10651 | 22:32 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: doug * r10654 /branch/WebGUI_7.6/docs/changelog/7.x.x.txt: updated changelog | 22:33 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: perlmonkey2 * r10655 /WebGUI/www/extras/wobject/Survey/editsurvey/object.js: YUI editor in the edit panel for the Survey editor now drags with the panel and hides with the panel. | 22:33 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: perlmonkey2 * r10656 /WebGUI/www/extras/wobject/Survey/editsurvey/object.js: Removed superfluous function wrappers on the yui event subscriptions. | 22:33 |
@tavisto | is it just me or are pb/wg just absolutely crawling right now... argh | 22:39 |
@tavisto | it's probably just my crappy ISP.. but I feel like I'm stuck in mud | 22:40 |
@preaction | tavisto: just you. works fine for me | 22:41 |
@tavisto | alright great. Thanks Verizon | 22:41 |
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dhelsten | I'm not familiar with IRC can someone tell me what the @ and + in front of the handles means? Also how does one indicate their status as away, etc? | 23:35 |
@preaction | dhelsten: @ = +o = channel operator. + = +v = voiced (can talk when channel is moderated, special users) | 23:37 |
@preaction | you can indicate away using /away, but normally you just don't have to | 23:37 |
dhelsten | Thanks | 23:39 |
dhelsten | I an upcoming events area for my home page using a shortcut to a calendar and overriding with the List View. At the time I thought that did it because all my events were in the future. Now I realize that this displays all events, even those in the past. Any ideas of how I can show only future events? | 23:40 |
@preaction | a SQLReport? | 23:41 |
@preaction | ooh, you could use a Template Toolkit template to only show an event if it's in the future | 23:42 |
@preaction | that might be better | 23:42 |
dhelsten | I'm not familiar with Template Toolkit | 23:43 |
@preaction | there will be a presentation at the WUC | 23:44 |
@preaction | but HTML::Template::Expr might be able to handle it too | 23:44 |
dhelsten | Is TT going to be replacing HTML::Template? | 23:46 |
dhelsten | Or will WG just support both | 23:47 |
@preaction | i believe we're moving to TT entirely, but TT supports the HTML::Template dialect | 23:47 |
+perlmonkey2 | TT is an incredible improvement. | 23:48 |
@preaction | yes | 23:48 |
@preaction | ten million percent improvement | 23:48 |
dhelsten | And in TT I could create a statement in my calendar loop such as "if event date > today then ..." | 23:49 |
dhelsten | ? | 23:49 |
@preaction | yep | 23:49 |
dhelsten | That will be great for non coders like myself who must rely only on the available variables. | 23:50 |
@preaction | yeah, steve swanson (head of our design dept.) is really excited about it | 23:52 |
dhelsten | How difficult would it be to implement a TT template for the calendar list view? Are there any examples out there I can look at? When will it be included in the core(or how do I enable it)? | 23:53 |
@preaction | i think there's a wiki article about it | 23:54 |
@preaction | dhelsten: http://www.webgui.org/community-wiki/how-to-enable-other-template-engines | 23:55 |
dhelsten | thanks. looking at it now | 23:55 |
dhelsten | what is the name of the TT CPAN Bundle? The article doesn't say | 23:57 |
@preaction | dhelsten: it's just called "Template" | 23:57 |
@preaction | http://template-toolkit.org/ <- here's the main TT2 site | 23:57 |
dhelsten | Thanks. | 23:57 |
@preaction | you'll have to look at the Plugins for Date functions | 23:58 |
dhelsten | I assume I need to install the module bundles as well, yes? | 23:59 |
@preaction | the date plugin should be part of the normal TT distribution, but maybe | 23:59 |
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dhelsten | Thanks. I'm got to get on a conf call but will play around with this later... | 00:00 |
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+perlDreamer | preaction, how does TT support H::T dialect? | 00:27 |
+perlDreamer | also, for testing resources... | 00:27 |
+perlDreamer | The Developers Guid | 00:27 |
+perlDreamer | e | 00:27 |
+perlDreamer | my testing presentation | 00:27 |
+perlDreamer | some wiki pages | 00:27 |
+perlDreamer | also, see my blog for recent developments in testing convenience methods | 00:28 |
@preaction | perlDreamer: i don't know, i'm just repeating what i were told | 00:29 |
+perlDreamer | I did some looking on that recently, and it's not exactly true | 00:30 |
+perlDreamer | that TT plugin just calls H::T, then passes the content on to the template | 00:30 |
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+perlDreamer | preaction: what kind of testing questions do you have? | 00:38 |
@preaction | none, i wanted steveo_aa to get some information on how to write tests | 00:40 |
@preaction | i'll be writing some tests for the collab system, because i need to fix part of it | 00:40 |
+perlDreamer | Do you guys have the PDF for my testing presentation, because it has lots of links to Perl testing in general | 00:41 |
@preaction | i think we do. otherwise it not up on webgui.tv yet? | 00:42 |
+perlDreamer | yes | 00:42 |
+perlDreamer | well, I figure y'all have access to those videos whether it's on wgtv or not | 00:42 |
@preaction | er, what year was it? | 00:43 |
@preaction | 08 right? | 00:43 |
+perlDreamer | 07 or 06 | 00:43 |
@preaction | 06 here it is | 00:44 |
+perlDreamer | 05 was Help, 06 was testing, 07 was community, 08 was game show and community redo | 00:44 |
+perlDreamer | 09 is Story Manager, and Clinic | 00:44 |
@preaction | heh, i don't get to do a presentation this year, so i'll be there to heckle everybody! | 00:45 |
+perlDreamer | what? | 00:46 |
@preaction | but i especially want to see the Story Manager, i've got a few clients who might be very interested in that | 00:46 |
+perlDreamer | want one of mine? | 00:46 |
@preaction | oh no, i've got other SOOPER SEKRIT projects I get to work on that I'll hopefully have done for the WUC | 00:46 |
* perlDreamer needs a USB keyboard and mouse | 00:47 |
+perlDreamer | The desk is too high | 00:47 |
+perlDreamer | (for a laptop) | 00:47 |
@preaction | go wireless! | 00:47 |
+perlDreamer | we do have one of those... | 00:47 |
@preaction | it's a business expense! | 00:47 |
+perlDreamer | that just makes it less expensive, not free | 00:48 |
+perlDreamer | preaction, does the editarea commit also fix the long standing bugs with display and resizing, by chance? | 00:50 |
@preaction | resizing doesn't have a bug taht i know of, it's just counter-intuitive | 00:50 |
@preaction | but display, no it doesn't | 00:50 |
@preaction | it fixes the blue-bar problem though | 00:50 |
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* perlDreamer goes running | 01:46 |
+perlDreamer | I know, that's two bouts of exercising today, but I didn't go on Tuesday so this makes up for it. | 01:47 |
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@preaction | i'll do zero bouts of exercising today to make up for it | 02:29 |
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CIA-23 | WebGUI: paul * r10657 /WebGUI/ (6 files in 6 dirs): template attachments (scripts and stylesheets) | 02:45 |
@preaction | does anyone want to help me with a new feature? you'll have to svn up and wgd reset | 02:53 |
@preaction | templates now allow attachments, and i want your opinion | 02:53 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: paul * r10658 /WebGUI/docs/changelog/7.x.x.txt: added a changelog note about template attachments | 03:17 |
+perlDreamer | what kind of attachments? | 03:23 |
* perlDreamer is very curiuos | 03:23 |
@preaction | CSS and JS | 03:23 |
@preaction | to fix the "double include" problem and also to allow deferred loading of some JS (to improve render times) | 03:24 |
@preaction | mostly i want an opinion on the UI, i like it, and i want to make sure other people like it too | 03:24 |
* perlDreamer will look | 03:24 |
+perlDreamer | so how does an attachment fix the double include problem? | 03:25 |
@preaction | there was no attempt at parsing or whatever, so we're going to have to eventually go in manually and change the Extra HEAD tags into Attachments (if possible) | 03:25 |
+perlDreamer | does it get registered? | 03:25 |
@preaction | because it uses $style->setScript, which doesn't allow duplicate scripts | 03:25 |
+perlDreamer | ah... | 03:25 |
@preaction | and Style->setLink, which also doesn't allow dups | 03:25 |
@preaction | in a related note, setScript can now add scripts to the body instead of the head, so there's that | 03:26 |
+perlDreamer | if I ask you if it has tests, will you shoot me? | 03:26 |
@preaction | no, because i didn't write it ;) so i don't know | 03:26 |
@preaction | also, it does | 03:26 |
@preaction | so three cheers for frodwith there | 03:27 |
+perlDreamer | frodwith++ | 03:27 |
+perlDreamer | sub prepare could do with some review | 03:34 |
+perlDreamer | and WGBP is to do @{ }, not @$ | 03:35 |
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@preaction | prepare? how so? looks okay to me, except that $self->getAttachments is called 3 times (3 DB queries, when we're getting ALL attachments anyway) | 03:37 |
@preaction | why does it take us 20 lines to determine how to sort the Threads in a collab system? my god... | 03:41 |
+perlDreamer | inside prepare, there's no need to build a variable every time through the loop | 03:51 |
+perlDreamer | and I don't think a closure needs to be built, when a loop would do | 03:51 |
@preaction | oh, that, i see | 03:51 |
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Zylopfa | Hello Webguis | 03:53 |
+perlDreamer | nice POD work in Session/Style | 03:55 |
+perlDreamer | session/style.t tests need to be updated for all the new code | 03:56 |
Zylopfa | Sweet my bazaar thing is still on most downloaded | 03:57 |
Zylopfa | makes me wanna make more stuff | 03:57 |
+perlDreamer | which bazaar thing is that, Zylopfa? | 03:59 |
Zylopfa | Workflow Activity to Create Personal User Areas, When user is created. " | 04:00 |
Zylopfa | I am realy busy atm making a story site i have into webgui | 04:00 |
Zylopfa | btw. it was a hilarious php aprils fools, just read it now as i browsed the black blog | 04:01 |
+perlDreamer | preaction, index is always 0 when I add thing to the list of attachments | 04:04 |
@preaction | not sure if that is expected behavior or not | 04:04 |
+perlDreamer | and because the way webgui works, I'd call them something else, like links or something, because attachments usually means files | 04:04 |
@preaction | good idea | 04:04 |
+perlDreamer | I see | 04:06 |
+perlDreamer | in the attachments section, if you change the index it allows you to move them around relative to one another | 04:06 |
+perlDreamer | but when you're adding them, any newly added thing gets appended to the end, regardless of the index, and it's given an index of 0 | 04:06 |
+perlDreamer | I like how you can easily edit the entries after adding them | 04:08 |
+perlDreamer | change names and types | 04:08 |
+perlDreamer | uh oh | 04:10 |
+perlDreamer | something really bad happened to the edit screen | 04:10 |
@preaction | that's not good | 04:10 |
+perlDreamer | no, wait, that's the template source | 04:10 |
* perlDreamer needs to go, it's dinner time | 04:12 |
+perlDreamer | later, all | 04:12 |
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Zylopfa | Have a good dinner | 04:13 |
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CIA-23 | WebGUI: translation * r10660 /translations/German/German/ (Account_Shop.pm Shop.pm): Update from translation server | 00:03 |
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CIA-23 | WebGUI: translation * r10661 /translations/German/German/Shop.pm: Update from translation server | 02:10 |
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CIA-23 | WebGUI: translation * r10663 /translations/German/German/Asset_Subscription.pm: Update from translation server | 02:10 |
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elnino | HI! | 06:23 |
elnino | I need to provide redirects for old URLs that are from a mambo install: /images/stories//uis%20-%20home%20inspection%20price%20schedule.pdf to a webgui url | 06:24 |
elnino | but webgui seems to want to correct the double slash and %20's. is there a way to make webgui not do that? | 06:24 |
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elnino | hello? | 08:45 |
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wgGuest43 | Hi folks | 02:19 |
wgGuest43 | anyone game to take a couple quick questions? | 02:20 |
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wgGuest43 | anyone around? | 02:27 |
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+patspam | the EditArea syntax highlighter supports branfuck? that's awesome | 02:35 |
@Haarg | kind of odd. i'm not sure how much syntax highlighting is going to help you when there are only 8 operations. | 02:51 |
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wgGuest43 | anyone tried out the underground template? | 04:15 |
@preaction | wgGuest43: i made it, what do you need? | 04:17 |
wgGuest43 | ohh | 04:20 |
wgGuest43 | cool | 04:20 |
wgGuest43 | should search be working properly? | 04:20 |
wgGuest43 | for some reason it seems like the theme isn't propagating to a few pages correctly... specifically the 'search' page and the 'view my account' pages | 04:20 |
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@preaction | the "view my account" page is controlled by the "User Function Style" in the settings | 04:21 |
@preaction | it's considered rude to private message without asking | 04:21 |
@preaction | but the "Search" page, that'd be a bug | 04:22 |
wgGuest43 | dude, I have been on irc since 1993 | 04:22 |
@preaction | yes, and since then the social contract has probably changed quite a bit. we get sounds when people private message now, like an IM, so it's more urgent (especially when you're using IRC for business and such) | 04:23 |
wgGuest43 | I suppose it depends on your client | 04:23 |
@preaction | but to fix the Search page, Turn Admin On and go to the Search page, edit the Search asset and you'll see Display tab, under the "Style Template" field, choose "Underground [style]" | 04:23 |
@preaction | i'll add it to the next revision | 04:24 |
wgGuest43 | Its a really sexy theme, I like it | 04:24 |
@preaction | thank the guy at styleshout.com, i just put it into webgui | 04:24 |
wgGuest43 | this is my first go around with webgui, I def. prefer your theme to the default.. | 04:25 |
wgGuest43 | your/his | 04:25 |
@preaction | yeah, Tavis has wanted a way to pull default themes from the bazaar during the site starter wizard, which i think would be great | 04:25 |
wgGuest43 | That seems to work, but for some reason the menu bar at the top is garbled with a bunch of links that shouldn't be there.. | 04:27 |
@preaction | that depends on where the search asset is located i suspect | 04:28 |
@preaction | if you Cut the search asset and then Paste it on a Search page under your Home page, that should fix it | 04:29 |
@preaction | i'll also find a way to fix that for this release | 04:29 |
@preaction | now i remember. i wanted to make the Navigation asset have a special "home page" start point to fix this | 04:31 |
wgGuest43 | thanks preaction, the cut/paste fix worked | 04:50 |
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dhelsten | I know that CS assets can automatically expire. Is there anyway to get an article to do this? | 05:51 |
wgGuest43 | preaction: I made a little fix to enable search from the top navigation search window after the cut/paste thing, I'll probably make a few more changes... you have this thing in svn somewhere? I could share these with you... | 06:00 |
@preaction | dhelsten: not currently, no | 06:01 |
@preaction | wgGuest43: not really, wgpkg doesn't lend itself well to diff/patch. you could just e-mail it to me doug@plainblack.com | 06:02 |
wgGuest43 | cool | 06:02 |
dhelsten | preaction: ok, thanks. | 06:08 |
+patspam | perlmonkey2: ... | 06:26 |
+patspam | perlmonkey2: I have a Survey scoring idea | 06:27 |
wgGuest43 | preaction: do you have a fix for enabling the underground theme for the "View My Account" pagee? | 06:32 |
wgGuest43 | nevermind =) | 06:44 |
+perlmonkey2 | patspam: what's the idea? | 06:50 |
+patspam | heya | 06:50 |
+patspam | well.. | 06:50 |
dhelsten | how do I get avatars to show in templates. Using <tmpl_var user_profile_avatar_value> just returns the Asset ID. I assume I need to put this in a macro to get it show up as an image... | 06:53 |
+patspam | in the general case I think you can treat scoring as an arbitrary number of rules that get evaluated | 06:53 |
+perlmonkey2 | patspam: that makes sense. | 06:53 |
+patspam | each rule evaluates to something, often just a true/false flag, but also possibly a numeric score | 06:54 |
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+perlDreamer | whoa | 06:54 |
+perlDreamer | a wgGuest | 06:54 |
* perlDreamer hopes you guys have helped them out | 06:54 |
+perlmonkey2 | my original idea was to leave that up to the report generators.....but jumping logic seems to require some rules to be solidified I guess. | 06:54 |
+patspam | what I'm thinking is.. | 06:54 |
+patspam | we can easily add a section to the UI for the survey builder to add in an arbitrary number of scoring expressions | 06:55 |
+patspam | that (at this stage) just get run at survey completion time | 06:55 |
+patspam | adding an extra 'score' data object to the response hash | 06:55 |
+patspam | each score expression can be of the form: score({ <expression>} TAG_NAME) | 06:56 |
+patspam | and then you can expose all those TAG_NAMEs as template variables on a results page | 06:56 |
+perlmonkey2 | hmm | 06:56 |
+patspam | for instance, say you're recreating one of those cheesy magazine-type surveys that tell you what category you fall into | 06:57 |
+patspam | for each category, you add a score expression: score { value(var1) > 10} CATEGORY1; score { value(var20) == 3} CATEGORY2, etc.. | 06:59 |
+perlmonkey2 | Oh, I get you, and I think it is a really clever idea. | 06:59 |
+perlmonkey2 | I'm just thinking that when this is implemented, it might be a good idea to refactor the section, question, answer paradigm into something more generalized that allows for other, more speialized objects to be added. | 06:59 |
+perlmonkey2 | specialized. | 06:59 |
+patspam | for example? | 07:00 |
+perlmonkey2 | right now a lot of very similiar code is reimplemented for all three objects. Maybe refactor that into roles, so adding a new "scoring" object won't require making 15,000 code changes. | 07:01 |
+patspam | ah, I don't think we need to add a new object to achieve this | 07:01 |
+perlmonkey2 | instead of having jumping sections, we have a jump object that can be placed anywhere. | 07:01 |
+perlmonkey2 | I mean "logical" sections. We have a logical object. | 07:02 |
+perlmonkey2 | can be an answer, question, or section. | 07:02 |
+perlmonkey2 | or placed after any of those. | 07:02 |
+patspam | yeah that'd be cool. And at the same time I'd love to be able to nest sections | 07:02 |
+perlmonkey2 | wait....hah | 07:03 |
+perlmonkey2 | you said add a section, and I thought you meant add functionality to the section objets. | 07:03 |
+perlmonkey2 | hah. | 07:03 |
+perlmonkey2 | nevermind. | 07:03 |
+perlDreamer | preaction: that guy from France added 2% to the WebGUI translation for us | 07:03 |
+perlmonkey2 | okay, yes. maybe a tab button that pops up a scoring panel where those rules are entered. | 07:03 |
+patspam | heh yeah, for the scoring expression thing the only thing we add (right at the end) is a new key in the response hash | 07:04 |
+patspam | but in general we could do lots more refactoring | 07:04 |
+perlmonkey2 | or a special scoring screen where multiple scoring lists can be created for multiple templates. | 07:04 |
+perlmonkey2 | anyways, I dig the idea. Sounds like a really powerful feature for users. Way easier than sqlreports or figuring out how to use the temptable on their own. | 07:05 |
+patspam | yeah, agreed | 07:05 |
+patspam | although nothing to stop people from pulling the responseJSON out of the db and doing whatever they like with it too | 07:06 |
+patspam | I'll implement the simplest approach with scoring expressions first, and later we can add more awesome | 07:06 |
+perlmonkey2 | absolutely.....this takes away nothing from power users, but allows a pidgin language to quickly put together a complex list of params for a template. | 07:07 |
+perlmonkey2 | man, that is just a cool idea. Seems like this could be applied to quite a few wobjects in wG. | 07:08 |
+patspam | I'd love to do a comprehensive feature comparison of Survey with the best available web-based products out there (commercial or otherwise) | 07:10 |
@preaction | what if SQLReport could deserialize JSON? | 07:10 |
@preaction | hmm... but how would it know? | 07:11 |
+perlDreamer | it would be easier in TT | 07:12 |
+perlDreamer | since you can call subroutines and methods in it | 07:12 |
@preaction | ha! right! | 07:13 |
+perlDreamer | you can do that in H::T, too | 07:13 |
+perlDreamer | they just have to be setup ahead of time | 07:13 |
@preaction | yeah, yeah, i get it | 07:14 |
@preaction | that would work | 07:14 |
* perlmonkey2 sets up to go to bed. | 07:16 |
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CIA-23 | WebGUI: patspam * r10664 /WebGUI/ (3 files in 2 dirs): | 07:37 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: Survey Branch Expressions can now test whether a question | 07:37 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: has been reached/answered, rather than just testing for the value | 07:37 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: of a response | 07:37 |
+perlDreamer | in svn, on the commandline, does anyone know how to get a listing of which files were included in a particular revision? | 08:03 |
+perlDreamer | svn log -vr | 08:06 |
@preaction | ooh nice | 08:06 |
@preaction | perlDreamer: quick question about an RFE | 08:07 |
@preaction | http://www.webgui.org/rfe/request-for-enhancement/hyperlinks-on-the-fly | 08:08 |
@preaction | should i just allow a "None" entry under a template for this, or should I specifically add an option to "Enable viewing" | 08:08 |
+perlDreamer | ...reading | 08:08 |
@preaction | basically she wants to allow Redirect asset to appear in Layout as a link | 08:09 |
@preaction | and I think that might be a good idea, especially if Layouts get used more | 08:09 |
@preaction | i don't use layouts as much as i probably should, but they're powerful tools | 08:09 |
+perlDreamer | this almost doesn't sound like a template to me | 08:10 |
+perlDreamer | more like a mode toggle | 08:10 |
+perlDreamer | Display redirect? | 08:10 |
+perlDreamer | or Force Redirect? | 08:10 |
@preaction | i want a template so that more can be done, like one of those buttons on the webgui.org page Learn, Participate, Support, or whatever | 08:10 |
+perlDreamer | If you allow a null template, you may have to subclass prepareView, view and www_view, since they assume (falsely) that the template is always accessible. | 08:12 |
@preaction | okay, so then the "Show in Layout" toggle would work better | 08:14 |
@preaction | it would explicitly say "This will only appear in page layouts" | 08:14 |
@preaction | and then clicking "yes" can enable the user to select a template | 08:14 |
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+perlDreamer | okay, it's a little more work than I thought going back through 19 revisions of template changes | 08:34 |
+perlDreamer | but Rogier has a list of all templates that changed in each revision, along with the commit comment | 08:35 |
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CIA-23 | WebGUI: patspam * r10665 /WebGUI/ (4 files in 2 dirs): (log message trimmed) | 09:36 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: Survey Branch Expressions now allow you to "tag" data along the way and store | 09:36 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: it in the response data structure along with the actual user input. Tag data | 09:36 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: can be used in subsequent expressions, in [[tag]] templated text replacement, | 09:36 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: and to classify responses in an arbitrary way. | 09:36 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: Refactored Survey expression utility subs that lookup values/scores/tags in | 09:36 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: external assets. | 09:36 |
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@plainhao | was template_attachments added recently? | 16:52 |
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+bartjol | plainhao: where is that added? | 17:05 |
@plainhao | yeah, it's in wg svn HEAD, WebGUI::Asset::Template | 17:07 |
+bartjol | ah | 17:10 |
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+bartjol | plainhao: a paul added template attachements last friday, as far as I can see | 17:14 |
@plainhao | thanks, bartjol, i just saw that :) | 17:15 |
+bartjol | not sure who paul is, but bug him about it :) | 17:16 |
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+bartjol | perlDreamer! | 17:48 |
+perlDreamer | hey, bartjol! | 17:48 |
* perlDreamer needs to take kids to school in a few minutes, but I'll be right back | 17:48 |
+bartjol | ok | 17:48 |
@tavisto | Hello Big Dutch Girlyman! | 17:48 |
+bartjol | hee tavisto! | 17:50 |
+bartjol | everything Ok? | 17:51 |
@tavisto | yep, been very busy and hopefully we'll have some of our newest leads turn into customers | 17:51 |
+bartjol | cool, was that from those latest ad:tech? | 17:52 |
@tavisto | yeah quite a few new leads from that | 17:52 |
@tavisto | and some others that just came in from the web and cmsmatrix | 17:52 |
+bartjol | nice | 17:52 |
+bartjol | also rock stars? | 17:53 |
@tavisto | one definitely has the potential | 17:53 |
+bartjol | and further, already having kids? | 17:55 |
+bartjol | I mostly have some muscle ache from sailing and "remodelling my house" with a sledgehammer | 17:57 |
@tavisto | nice... did you go on a long sailing trip? | 17:59 |
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+bartjol | no, just one day with 4 short races. but that gives you only less time to rest, so I was pretty tired | 18:01 |
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+bartjol | in 2 weeks I will be sailing to Englanf | 18:01 |
+bartjol | England | 18:01 |
+perlDreamer | wow! | 18:07 |
+perlDreamer | you have an ocean going sail boat, bartjol? | 18:08 |
@tavisto | he has a 10ft dingy | 18:10 |
+bartjol | no a 27 foot pion | 18:11 |
+bartjol | and it's not mine | 18:11 |
+bartjol | it's from a father's friend | 18:12 |
+bartjol | a friend's father | 18:12 |
+bartjol | and no tavisto, I'm not suicidal | 18:14 |
@tavisto | hehe I know, I learned to sail in like a 12ft dingy.. and it was on a lake | 18:14 |
@tavisto | it wouldn't last 5 minutes in the ocean | 18:14 |
+bartjol | http://www.pionklasse.nl/pionnenboek?wid=122&func=viewSubmission&sid=69 | 18:15 |
carogray | bartjol: -to where in England are you sailing? I will be in Norfolk in 3 weeks! | 18:15 |
+bartjol | Wolverstone, between Harwich and Ipswitch | 18:16 |
+bartjol | http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=woolverstone&sll=37.062500,-95.677068&sspn=54.005807,127.529297&ie=UTF8&cd=1&t=h&z=14&iwloc=A | 18:17 |
@tavisto | cool | 18:17 |
carogray | aah too far south for us.. | 18:18 |
+bartjol | alas | 18:19 |
carogray | my husband will be windsurfing all over the coast when the wind is good - except only near us - in Holt. wouldn't it have been funny if you "ran" into each other:P | 18:19 |
+perlDreamer | bartjol, just keeping heading east, and you can sail to Madison | 18:20 |
+bartjol | last time I sailed there I met a friend of mine in the bathroom, he also sailed that race | 18:20 |
+bartjol | eee, you have a small little island in between: great britain | 18:20 |
+bartjol | and a few 100's of miles USA perlDreamer | 18:22 |
+perlDreamer | once you hit North America, just said up around toward Canada, and take a left | 18:23 |
+perlDreamer | that'll get you to a series of large lakes | 18:24 |
+perlDreamer | follow them until you get to michigan | 18:24 |
+perlDreamer | once you're there, we'll take care of the rest | 18:24 |
+bartjol | rent a car, follow route 90 west, I believe, get off at madison etc | 18:25 |
+bartjol | perlDreamer: Illinois also ok, at leat I know my way in Chicago | 18:31 |
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+perlDreamer | what's the good word, SynQ? | 19:04 |
SynQ | the right word is love | 20:03 |
SynQ | the good word, depends on the bad and the ugly one | 20:03 |
@preaction | wow, this year's wuc is going to be awesome | 20:34 |
@preaction | there are so many presentations i want to see... and of course some HAVE to conflict | 20:35 |
+perlDreamer | is the schedule finalized? | 20:35 |
@preaction | it's up on the site, i know that much | 20:35 |
@preaction | it's mostly the beginner courses i want to see, they're a lot about how to use webgui to accomplish goals | 20:36 |
@preaction | Lisa's "Social WebGUI" and Chris's WebGUI in Government | 20:36 |
@preaction | Roy's Enterprise WebGUI | 20:37 |
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+perlDreamer | BartJol? You're back | 21:02 |
+BartJol | I am | 21:02 |
+BartJol | got problems? | 21:03 |
+perlDreamer | I do, do you have a little time? | 21:03 |
+BartJol | sure | 21:04 |
+perlDreamer | Please read this: http://jquelin.blogspot.com/2009/04/on-coders-and-translators.html?showComment=1241409480000#c892450259529363533 | 21:04 |
+perlDreamer | I found a fellow who would help us with the french translation of WebGUI | 21:04 |
+BartJol | that's cool | 21:04 |
+perlDreamer | he has a question about international characters | 21:05 |
+perlDreamer | whether they should be HTML encoded, or straight characters | 21:05 |
* perlDreamer doesn't know | 21:05 |
+BartJol | ai | 21:05 |
@preaction | the HTML encoding should happen by the translation server itself, if it doesn't i would consider that a bug | 21:05 |
+BartJol | dutch hasn't gor that much strange characters (a lot of strange people we do have though) | 21:06 |
+perlDreamer | what about unlauts, accents, and so on? | 21:06 |
+BartJol | mostly german | 21:06 |
+BartJol | but we have some | 21:06 |
+perlDreamer | Haarg, you're our resident utf8 guru (due to long suffering experience). What do you think? | 21:07 |
+BartJol | in the last editor that wasn't a problem | 21:07 |
+BartJol | dor me | 21:08 |
+BartJol | for | 21:08 |
+BartJol | but I agree with preaction that they should be encoded by the serevr | 21:09 |
@preaction | if it's even necessary to encode them, that is | 21:09 |
@preaction | user shouldn't care | 21:09 |
* preaction imagines a world where the translation server outputs multiple types of i18n files | 21:10 |
+BartJol | how are the i18n messages encoded now? | 21:10 |
@preaction | i don't know | 21:10 |
* perlDreamer thinks that the i18n server is utf8 safe | 21:10 |
+perlDreamer | just like WebGUI | 21:10 |
@preaction | damnit, another project i want to do... make the encoder/decoder in the translation server pluggable | 21:11 |
+BartJol | it says "use utf8" in the script | 21:11 |
@preaction | that just means the code might contain utf8 characters in it | 21:11 |
+perlDreamer | no, it's for utf8 handling | 21:12 |
@preaction | which would be those i18n modules, since they're perl code | 21:12 |
+perlDreamer | the filehandles use utf8 | 21:12 |
@preaction | i thought Encode was for utf8 string handling | 21:12 |
@preaction | and "use utf8" was for utf8 inside code (like the Perl modules we use for i18n) | 21:12 |
+perlDreamer | you're right. It's for when i18n modules are required into the code. | 21:13 |
+BartJol | I do see html encoded stuff in the messages | 21:14 |
+BartJol | mm, also see messages without code for same characters | 21:18 |
+perlDreamer | that's a Data::Dumper bug | 21:21 |
+BartJol | that is on my server. now I'm seaking for the messages in my site | 21:22 |
+BartJol | both seem to work fine | 21:23 |
+perlDreamer | cool, I'll let him know that | 21:30 |
+perlDreamer | thanks, BartJol! | 21:30 |
+perlDreamer | there's another guy on that site who says he may translate some Esperanto | 21:31 |
+BartJol | ok, dinner time | 21:37 |
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knowmad | perlDreamer: i have a blocked send queued email messages workflow; got a minute to help me investigate it? | 21:43 |
+perlDreamer | knowmad, actually I have to head off for a run | 21:44 |
knowmad | ok, i'll see what i can learn | 21:44 |
knowmad | have a good run | 21:44 |
* perlDreamer guesses you will find that the currentActivityId is blank | 21:44 |
knowmad | in what table? | 21:44 |
+perlDreamer | WorkflowInstance | 21:45 |
knowmad | i've got nothing in there | 21:45 |
+perlDreamer | and the workflow still won't run? | 21:45 |
+perlDreamer | now I'm curious | 21:45 |
+perlDreamer | but I still have to head out | 21:45 |
+perlDreamer | making the running partner mad only means more miles | 21:45 |
knowmad | :) | 21:46 |
knowmad | later | 21:46 |
+perlDreamer | http://www.webgui.org/bugs/tracker/10189 for reference about the empty currentActivityid | 21:46 |
+perlDreamer | knowmad, the running partner is late, so I have 10 minutes | 21:51 |
+perlDreamer | any error messages in the webgui.log? | 21:52 |
knowmad | yes, i'm seeing spectre connection errors | 21:54 |
knowmad | was just reading over the bug report | 21:54 |
knowmad | this is happening on a site that has 2 domains operating out of a single database -- like pb and webgui.org | 21:54 |
knowmad | actually, there are more like 16 domains.... | 21:55 |
+perlDreamer | out of 1 db? | 21:55 |
+perlDreamer | wow | 21:55 |
knowmad | yep, they run training courses | 21:55 |
knowmad | we prob wouldn't do it this way again | 21:55 |
knowmad | but we do have the webgui/etc/conf files for each of these subdomains which i wonder if we really need | 21:56 |
knowmad | they are definitely causing spectre errors | 21:56 |
+perlDreamer | so it's more like the main site has 16 aliases, or 16 branches all running off of 1 "real" WebGUI site? | 21:57 |
knowmad | yes | 21:59 |
+perlDreamer | yeah, then AFAIK, you don't need conf files for the subdomains | 22:00 |
+perlDreamer | spectre will make requests for data for all of them | 22:00 |
+perlDreamer | which will make duplicates of every cron job | 22:00 |
knowmad | that might be the issue | 22:00 |
knowmad | i just restarted spectre and mail is flowing again | 22:00 |
+perlDreamer | what were the connection errors? | 22:01 |
knowmad | let me get my log | 22:01 |
knowmad | 500 Internal Server Error | 22:02 |
+perlDreamer | are there corresponding apache error log entries? | 22:03 |
knowmad | checking... | 22:03 |
knowmad | lots of db connection errors and then -- Label not found for "last WEBGUI_FATAL" at /data/WebGUI/lib/WebGUI/Session/ErrorHandler.pm line 235. | 22:06 |
knowmad | hadn't seen that one before | 22:06 |
+perlDreamer | sorry, knowmad, this makes twice that I need to run out on you. | 22:06 |
+perlDreamer | I'd file this as a new bug | 22:06 |
+perlDreamer | since the WEBGUI_FATAL label _does_ exist over in URL/Content.pm, line 58 | 22:07 |
+perlDreamer | later | 22:07 |
knowmad | ok | 22:07 |
knowmad | the problem is that this is showing up in v7.5.40 which is not supported; anyone using that version who has patched this error? | 22:10 |
@preaction | quick advice needed on refactoring the Collab system: the "sub getThreadsPaginator" is huge, and devotes nearly 20 lines to getting which column to sort by. should that be moved into its own sub? | 22:44 |
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@Haarg | preaction, that sounds like a good idea | 22:59 |
@preaction | okay, so i'll try to granulate the collab system | 23:00 |
@preaction | but i have to write the tests first, then i can granulate, then i can test the newly granulated method | 23:00 |
@preaction | evil... | 23:00 |
@Haarg | also, re: pluggable encoder/decoder in the translation server | 23:00 |
@Haarg | what are you referring to with that? | 23:00 |
@preaction | we could use the translationserver.cgi to also do GNU gettext or some other program's proprietary database i18n or something | 23:01 |
slickware | I just got the WUC2009 email - looks like it's filling up nicely | 23:01 |
@preaction | make the translation server generally useful, to lead an effort to crowd-source i18n for more programs | 23:01 |
@Haarg | hmm | 23:01 |
@preaction | like the blog post perlDreamer linked to suggests | 23:01 |
@preaction | i dunno if it's possible, or even a good idea, but probably a few projects have i18n like ours (just key => value pairs essentially) | 23:02 |
@Haarg | i've started work on a new translation server, but it can't do much yet | 23:03 |
@preaction | ooh nice | 23:04 |
@Haarg | but it's very specific to our usage - getting it to handle that would be even harder than doing so with the current translation server | 23:04 |
@preaction | aww | 23:05 |
@preaction | eh, it's not a priority | 23:05 |
@preaction | just another wall-banging idea | 23:05 |
@Haarg | i still have to adjust and finalize the design in a few places though, so i'll keep that in mind | 23:05 |
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@Haarg | i should try to get it cleaned up enough to where i could put it on github | 23:07 |
+perlmonkey2 | Anyone do anything outside on May 1st? | 23:14 |
@preaction | nope, was supposed to go for a bike ride but couldn't | 23:15 |
@preaction | today is beautiful though, so i can make it up | 23:15 |
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+perlmonkey2 | preaction: not funny? | 23:41 |
@preaction | didn't watch yet | 23:42 |
@preaction | that's beautiful | 23:44 |
+perlmonkey2 | yeah, totally made my day. | 23:44 |
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+perlDreamer | wow, so all you Plain Black guys don't have to present this year | 23:53 |
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+perlDreamer | Haarg, I'm trying to think of a way to automatically test shipping and payment drivers that require development keys | 01:07 |
+perlDreamer | is it safe to stash them in the config file? | 01:07 |
@Haarg | so anyone can run the tests? | 01:08 |
+perlDreamer | well, no | 01:11 |
+perlDreamer | developer keys are licensed on a 1/person basis | 01:12 |
+perlDreamer | so I can't hardcode a set inside the tests | 01:12 |
+perlDreamer | so the config file was the next best option I could think of | 01:12 |
@Haarg | developer keys are separate from user keys? | 01:12 |
@Haarg | or whatever the person running the site would need? | 01:13 |
+perlDreamer | yes. they go to a non-production server | 01:13 |
+perlDreamer | at least for this 1 driver setup I've found | 01:13 |
+perlDreamer | for ITransact, you tell the remote end whether it is a test or not. | 01:13 |
+perlDreamer | but for others, you get a developer key, or a user key | 01:13 |
@preaction | i like the ITransact way :p | 01:14 |
@Haarg | well, the config file seems as good as any place for a developer key. user keys would need to be in the ui of course. | 01:15 |
+perlDreamer | yeah | 01:19 |
+perlDreamer | in all likelihood, only 2-3 people will ever run the tests | 01:19 |
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zylopfa | Wouldn't it be a good idea to make the "Send Mail To Group" function be templatable? | 01:43 |
zylopfa | So you can send mail where fields in the userProfileData and user tables can be used in mails? | 01:44 |
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+perlDreamer | zylopfa, that almost sounds like something you could do with macros | 01:54 |
+perlDreamer | are they evaluated in that email? | 01:54 |
zylopfa | Its because i have a group with 400 members i wish to send an email with invitation to testdrive the site | 01:54 |
zylopfa | and in the mail i need vars such as <ttmpl_var username> <tmpl_var temppassword> | 01:55 |
zylopfa | Macros arent evaluated in the sendtogroup function | 01:55 |
zylopfa | I tested it a moment ago | 01:55 |
zylopfa | Imo it should be templatable cause when you send out to a group chance is you wish to use some fields in userProfileData | 01:56 |
zylopfa | to make the mails more personal | 01:56 |
zylopfa | I will make a Mailer.pm wobject i think to facilitate sending mail to groups with templated messages | 02:00 |
zylopfa | instead of grinding at the core of webgui | 02:00 |
zylopfa | Its the whole group mailing function that is assuming that each of the group will receive the exact same mail | 02:00 |
+perlDreamer | it would be a good RFE to add macros to the send group mail | 02:01 |
+perlDreamer | 1 line of code | 02:01 |
zylopfa | yeah perlDreamer but that dont change it | 02:01 |
+perlDreamer | and safe from security, since only admins can use that function | 02:01 |
+perlDreamer | huh? | 02:01 |
zylopfa | if you macro ^User(name); | 02:01 |
+perlDreamer | yes | 02:01 |
zylopfa | in the message you send | 02:01 |
zylopfa | it will only have Admin in it | 02:01 |
zylopfa | for all the users | 02:01 |
+perlDreamer | no :) | 02:01 |
zylopfa | yeah | 02:02 |
zylopfa | Cause the mail function send 1 mail | 02:02 |
+perlDreamer | no | 02:02 |
zylopfa | it dont iterate the messages | 02:02 |
zylopfa | it only send it with changed email address | 02:02 |
+perlDreamer | Operation/Group.pm, line 634 | 02:02 |
+perlDreamer | toGroup = $session->form->process('gid') | 02:02 |
+perlDreamer | that makes it send 1 email to each person in the group | 02:02 |
+perlDreamer | and they're processed individually | 02:02 |
zylopfa | yesh but look in the mail sender | 02:02 |
zylopfa | look in that sub | 02:03 |
zylopfa | I will make this wob | 02:03 |
zylopfa | WebGUI::Mail::Send->create | 02:03 |
+perlDreamer | it pushes 1 email into the queue | 02:03 |
zylopfa | yes | 02:03 |
+perlDreamer | but it sends 1 email to each user in the group | 02:03 |
zylopfa | and wont iterate it | 02:03 |
zylopfa | yeah but it wont change the email body | 02:03 |
+perlDreamer | that is what would need to change | 02:04 |
zylopfa | sure you can make it do it | 02:04 |
zylopfa | but its more than 1 line | 02:04 |
+perlDreamer | you're right, it is more than 1 line | 02:04 |
zylopfa | Sir | 02:05 |
zylopfa | Also you have to change the send thing | 02:05 |
+perlDreamer | yes, indeed | 02:06 |
zylopfa | and perhaps the queue function also | 02:06 |
+perlDreamer | queue would have to be modified to handle sending to a single person | 02:07 |
zylopfa | yeah | 02:07 |
zylopfa | For now i will make a wobject with a "Group" field, a HTMLArea field, subject field | 02:07 |
zylopfa | and when i send with my wobject, it will interpolate all the fields in userProfileData with <tmpl_var profilefield> | 02:08 |
zylopfa | I so love the webgui API, its simply genious | 02:09 |
zylopfa | I am calling my new wobject GroupMailer | 02:10 |
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* patspam is sad there's only 2 days of wuc talks now | 02:24 |
* zylopfa comforts patspam | 02:25 |
+perlDreamer | patspam, maybe we should hold an extra conference day on Wednesday, anyway | 02:26 |
+patspam | hackathon? | 02:26 |
+perlDreamer | sure! | 02:26 |
+patspam | sweet! | 02:27 |
+perlDreamer | JT's house has 3 levels | 02:27 |
+perlDreamer | 1 level for each track | 02:27 |
+patspam | heheh awesome | 02:27 |
+perlDreamer | API hacking on the first floor | 02:27 |
+perlDreamer | UI hacking on the 2nd floor | 02:27 |
+perlDreamer | and leftover hacking (business, management, strategy) on the 3rd floor | 02:27 |
+patspam | and lightning talks at lunch :) | 02:27 |
zylopfa | sounda awesome | 02:28 |
+perlDreamer | you coming, zylopfa? | 02:28 |
zylopfa | to bad i am no there :/ | 02:28 |
zylopfa | Its in the US isnt it ? | 02:28 |
+perlDreamer | maybe you could hitch a ride on BatJol's boat | 02:28 |
zylopfa | haha nice | 02:28 |
zylopfa | I definately wanna come some time | 02:28 |
+perlDreamer | it's like 5 times better than IRC, since you can see people | 02:33 |
* patspam heads out for coffee | 02:34 |
zylopfa | I have read all about you guys so you are the only ones I "know" | 02:35 |
zylopfa | would be awesome to meet up at wuc | 02:35 |
zylopfa | I am going for 1000+ karma this year i only have 542 atm :( | 02:41 |
+perlDreamer | how do you earn your karma? | 02:42 |
zylopfa | I have made some of the danish translation (i am the only from Denmark doing it) | 02:44 |
zylopfa | And i have fixed some small bugs | 02:44 |
* perlDreamer would give you 1000 karma for 50% completion of the Danish translation | 02:44 |
zylopfa | and i have made a thing in the bazaar that some liked | 02:44 |
zylopfa | awesome perlDreamer | 02:44 |
zylopfa | I have yet to understand why not many from Denmark use webgui | 02:45 |
zylopfa | Its gold waiting to be picked up imo | 02:45 |
+perlDreamer | it's just that people don't know about it | 02:45 |
zylopfa | yeah true | 02:45 |
zylopfa | but maybe also cause you need to know about linux to get it installed | 02:46 |
+perlDreamer | yes, installation is still hard | 02:46 |
+perlDreamer | time for me to make dinner for the kids, be back later | 02:47 |
zylopfa | I am lucky that i know everything about linux to host webgui, i have my own 1 man company that design, host and make apps for webgui | 02:47 |
zylopfa | Take care perlDreamer ! | 02:47 |
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zylopfa | If you have a variable $message containing template variable tags | 05:11 |
zylopfa | how can you prepare it, like you do normal templates? | 05:12 |
zylopfa | I want to replace all <tmpl_var something> in this variable with the $var fields | 05:12 |
+patspam | zylopfa: in your wobject code? | 05:13 |
zylopfa | yes Sir | 05:13 |
+patspam | do you want to add those vars to an existing template that's being used? | 05:13 |
+patspam | or template something that currently isn't templated? | 05:13 |
zylopfa | just a simple text scalar i wish to replace <tmpl_var something> tags with the %var things | 05:14 |
+patspam | ah ok | 05:14 |
zylopfa | return $self->processTemplate($var,$my-text); | 05:14 |
zylopfa | something like this | 05:14 |
+patspam | you use the same template engine that the rest of webgui uses | 05:14 |
zylopfa | but not with a template variable | 05:14 |
zylopfa | I just wish my $text variable containing the text from a htmlarea to be the template | 05:15 |
zylopfa | can that be done? | 05:15 |
+patspam | sure! | 05:16 |
+patspam | if I understand you correctly.. | 05:16 |
zylopfa | I GOT IT NOW :D | 05:17 |
zylopfa | sub processTemplate { | 05:17 |
zylopfa | my $self = shift; | 05:17 |
zylopfa | my $var = shift; | 05:17 |
zylopfa | my $templateId = shift; | 05:17 |
zylopfa | my $template = shift; | 05:17 |
zylopfa | sorry for spam | 05:17 |
+patspam | that's ok.. you can use pastebin | 05:17 |
+patspam | webgui.pastebin.com | 05:17 |
zylopfa | but i see that it just needs an argument more which can be the template | 05:17 |
zylopfa | in pure text | 05:17 |
zylopfa | god i love webgui all is taken care of | 05:17 |
zylopfa | patspam, I just made a GroupMailer wobject | 05:18 |
zylopfa | a simple thing that has a Group, Subject and mail message | 05:18 |
+patspam | congratulations :) | 05:19 |
zylopfa | and then it sends the mail message to all users in the group, and it also substitute template variables like <tmpl_var username> and | 05:19 |
+patspam | great to hear that you've caught the webgui bug =D | 05:19 |
zylopfa | all fields in the userProfileData | 05:19 |
zylopfa | I made a Wobject for it instead of changing the code | 05:19 |
+perlDreamer | zylopfa is porting an old website with ~10K users to WebGUI | 05:19 |
zylopfa | yeah perlDreamer | 05:20 |
+patspam | legend! | 05:20 |
zylopfa | i make this wobject to send out to 400 of the users to test the beta version | 05:20 |
zylopfa | i neede the mail i send to be like: Dear <tmpl_var username> ... bla bla here is your password <tmpl_var tmppassword> | 05:21 |
+patspam | zylopfa: doing it as a wobject is totally fine, but next time around you might want to do it as a Content Handler instead.. you still have access to the same awesome webgui API, but instead of having a wobject that conceptually is an asset to be added (possibly in multiple places) as content, you have a single interface that controls your mailouts | 05:23 |
zylopfa | ahh thanks a lot patspam, it makes more sense as you say to have 1 on the entire site instead of being able to add more of them | 05:24 |
+perlDreamer | it would be be even better if the Mail/Send API didn't suck and it was easy to evaluate Macros in emails sent from WebGUI | 05:25 |
zylopfa | yeah true perlDreamer | 05:25 |
zylopfa | I didnt wanna mess with it thats why i made the wobject | 05:25 |
zylopfa | cause its in the design that you have to change some things | 05:25 |
zylopfa | in the way the mailer was designed from the start | 05:25 |
+perlDreamer | exactly | 05:26 |
zylopfa | Its strange though that it assumes you wish to send the totaly same mail to a group of users | 05:26 |
zylopfa | ok you can send a newsletter out but i like the personalization bit | 05:26 |
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+perlDreamer | submit an RFE about it, zylopfa | 05:30 |
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zylopfa | yeah I will do it now | 05:30 |
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+perlDreamer | we'll figure it out someday | 05:30 |
+perlDreamer | unless you get to it first :) | 05:30 |
zylopfa | Also i have a question about User->profileField | 05:30 |
+perlDreamer | yes? | 05:30 |
zylopfa | it can return a users profile field using profileField(fieldname) | 05:31 |
zylopfa | I was wondering why it doesnt have a profileField() way to be called | 05:31 |
zylopfa | so it return all the profilefields as a hash | 05:31 |
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elnino | when I do a ps aux, should the number of modproxy = modperls? | 05:34 |
+perlDreamer | it could zylopfa. it just doesn't | 05:35 |
zylopfa | elnino, I think so i have equal numbers on my install | 05:36 |
elnino | I usually do too, but for somereason I do not a this time. Just happened to look. | 05:36 |
elnino | in the wre.conf file, what is the difference between wreMonitor -> modproxyAdministrativelyDown and wreMonitor->items->modproxy ? | 05:49 |
@preaction | elnino: the wremonitor keeps track if you wanted to restart mysql, (that's administratively down), and it temporarily doesn't check it | 05:53 |
elnino | preaction, then what does wreMonitor->items->modproxy control? | 05:54 |
@preaction | whether or not it should monitor modproxy at all | 05:55 |
elnino | so if I disable wreMonitor->items->modproxy, then I don't need to do wreMonitor->moproxyAdministrativelyDown? | 05:55 |
elnino | s/need to/need to disable | 05:55 |
elnino | and if I have wreMonitor->items->modproxy enabled, and modproxyAdministravelyDown disabled, what would wreMonitor do? just tell me? and not try to restart it? | 05:56 |
@preaction | right | 05:56 |
@preaction | modproxyAdministrativelyDown is set by wreservice.pl, it's not something you do manually | 05:57 |
elnino | oh. then why is it in the conf file?? =) | 05:57 |
elnino | I'll go fix my wiki. =) | 05:57 |
@preaction | probably because it was just easier to put it there for JT | 05:57 |
elnino | lol | 05:57 |
elnino | it's set by wreservice or wremonitor? | 05:59 |
@preaction | wreservice.pl | 06:01 |
elnino | preaction - do YOU konw if when ps aux is performed if the number of modproxy should equal modperls? I stopped the services on my server, double checked they were gone, and started them, and they still don't equal the same number. | 06:01 |
elnino | theres less modperls than there are modproxies. | 06:02 |
elnino | thanks for clarifying myother quesiton. I fixed my wiki | 06:02 |
elnino | . | 06:03 |
elnino | zylopfa and I were both under the impression that the number of each should equal. | 06:03 |
@preaction | modproxy should be more, since it will serve static files as well | 06:04 |
elnino | oh. ok. I used to have 10/10 and I now am noticing I have 14/7. Plus I think my modproxy is proxying an apache site (which I suspect would also affect this). I guess I never saw this before. | 06:05 |
elnino | I suppose it depends on the time of day. | 06:05 |
elnino | tomorrow, I'll be upgrading to 7.6 yippee!! | 06:06 |
elnino | long awaited. Have a good night all! | 06:07 |
+patspam | night elnino! | 06:21 |
* patspam heads off for lunch | 06:21 |
zylopfa | anyone on for a quick question? | 06:39 |
@preaction | perhaps | 06:43 |
zylopfa | I am working on making my $text variable be templated | 06:44 |
zylopfa | and i have found the function | 06:44 |
zylopfa | my $message= WebGUI::Asset::Template->processRaw($session,$tmpmsg,$var); | 06:44 |
zylopfa | but it wont do anything :( the <tmpl_var > in the text doesn't get substituted | 06:45 |
zylopfa | sure i could just do a s/<tmpl_var fieldName>/$var->{'fieldname'}/gi; | 06:52 |
zylopfa | but that seems lame when there is a template system already in place | 06:52 |
@preaction | so $tmpmsg contains "<tmpl_var something>" and $var contains { something => "some text" } ? | 06:54 |
zylopfa | Exactly | 06:54 |
@preaction | can you pastebin the actual code somewhere? or a minimal test case perhaps? | 06:55 |
zylopfa | the only thing i get in the $message is the original text with the "<tmpl_var something> in them | 06:55 |
zylopfa | so the processor return the string i gave it but doesnt seem to substitute anything | 06:55 |
zylopfa | LOL preaction i found out why!! | 07:06 |
zylopfa | sometimes i am too stupid for my own good | 07:09 |
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zylopfa | Greetings Webguians! | 16:19 |
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+perlDreamer | bopbop, preaction, Haarg: we need a SPAM post removed from the forum | 18:52 |
+perlDreamer | http://www.webgui.org/web_design_templates_and_themes/combining-response-driven-with-section-survey/5#id2sbscGbO33OJsV9eR3HM0A | 18:52 |
@bopbop | gone | 18:57 |
@bopbop | there were three users who posted a bunch of those last nige | 18:57 |
@bopbop | night | 18:57 |
+perlDreamer | grrrr | 18:57 |
@bopbop | yep | 18:58 |
+perlDreamer | what they seem to be doing is taking posts, copying the contents, and then inserting spam links into the original post. | 18:58 |
+perlDreamer | even the username is suspect, yahoohao | 18:58 |
@bopbop | yeah, not nice | 18:58 |
@bopbop | there was another called sinalong | 18:58 |
+perlDreamer | nice | 18:58 |
+perlDreamer | at first, with that yahoohao username, I thought plainhao was testing a SPAM filter | 19:01 |
+perlDreamer | then I realized that if he had, he would have deleted it after the test | 19:01 |
@bopbop | I assumed yahoohao was hao from our staff | 19:02 |
@bopbop | so I didn't look at that one | 19:02 |
@bopbop | oh yeah... what you just said | 19:02 |
@bopbop | :) | 19:02 |
* plainhao was elsewhere doing other naughty things, truly. | 19:03 |
@plainhao | how's your thumb, bopbop? | 19:04 |
@bopbop | sore | 19:04 |
@bopbop | not good | 19:04 |
@plainhao | how's your kid, failed the test? | 19:04 |
+perlDreamer | what happened to the thumb? | 19:04 |
@bopbop | failed the test-yeah! | 19:04 |
@plainhao | cool | 19:04 |
* plainhao is happy that bopbop's kid failed the official test. | 19:05 |
@bopbop | I cut off the corner of my thumb yesterday while chopping some vegetables- took off a a good chunk of the fingernail and underlying nail bed and the the side/corner | 19:05 |
+perlDreamer | ouch! | 19:05 |
@plainhao | did you go to e.r.? | 19:05 |
@bopbop | no | 19:05 |
@bopbop | probably should have | 19:06 |
+perlDreamer | yes! | 19:06 |
+perlDreamer | they can reattach if you go quickly | 19:06 |
* plainhao is amazed at cheeseheads. | 19:06 |
+perlDreamer | that happened to my mom | 19:06 |
+perlDreamer | she cut off part of her thumb with an axe | 19:06 |
+perlDreamer | (not while chopping vegetables) | 19:06 |
@bopbop | it gives me the willies every time I change the bandage - yikes, an ax? | 19:06 |
@bopbop | chopping off chicken heads instead? | 19:06 |
+perlDreamer | she was chopping wood | 19:06 |
@bopbop | ow | 19:07 |
+perlDreamer | don't ask why her hand was on the wood while chopping | 19:07 |
@bopbop | hehe | 19:07 |
* plainhao thinks she should've asked someone else to hold the wood. | 19:07 |
+perlDreamer | I was inside on a break | 19:07 |
+perlDreamer | otherwise I would have chopped it off for her | 19:07 |
@bopbop | did she get it reattached | 19:07 |
@bopbop | or was she tough | 19:08 |
+perlDreamer | she did | 19:08 |
@bopbop | like me | 19:08 |
+perlDreamer | s/tough/other adjective/; | 19:08 |
+perlDreamer | she even got the feeling back after a couple of years | 19:08 |
@bopbop | I actually was being kind of a chicken- I was afraid they would cauterize it, which I hear hurts really bad | 19:08 |
+perlDreamer | in the meantime, she used it to stir hot coffee | 19:08 |
@bopbop | yeah, my thumb is pretty numb | 19:08 |
@bopbop | nice | 19:08 |
+perlDreamer | that's my mom | 19:08 |
+perlDreamer | you should still have a doctor look at it, bopbop | 19:09 |
@bopbop | we'll see | 19:09 |
@bopbop | the bleeding has slowed way down | 19:09 |
@bopbop | so I think I'm in the clear, but if the pain picks up or things start to turn colors I'll go in | 19:10 |
@bopbop | there's not really anything they can do at this point | 19:10 |
+perlDreamer | rum | 19:11 |
+perlDreamer | good astringent and pain medication | 19:11 |
@bopbop | yeah | 19:11 |
@bopbop | It is cinco de mayo- tequila might work too | 19:11 |
+perlDreamer | there ya go | 19:11 |
+perlDreamer | so how come all the other PB guys got to wiggle out of their WUC talks but you're still on? | 19:12 |
@bopbop | cuz I'm cool | 19:12 |
@bopbop | I don't know actually | 19:12 |
@bopbop | but I'm fine with it | 19:12 |
+perlDreamer | there's not even PB&J, so you must be way cool | 19:12 |
@bopbop | obviously | 19:12 |
+perlDreamer | yeah. Just so you know, there are other ways to celebrate Cinco de Mayo instead of making the thumb red, green and white. | 19:14 |
@bopbop | oh I'm sure | 19:14 |
@bopbop | but I can wave my thumb in the air like the flag | 19:15 |
@bopbop | so it's convenient | 19:15 |
* perlDreamer thinks if he teases you much more about it that the thumb may be replaced with another finger. | 19:15 |
@bopbop | :) | 19:15 |
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zylopfa | Greetings, all the americanos are up now ;) | 19:59 |
+perlmonkey2 | Vote, worst Perl OO implementation? | 20:04 |
+perlDreamer | perlmonkey2, we need some more context for that one... | 20:06 |
+perlDreamer | gotta scoot, gym time | 20:07 |
+perlmonkey2 | perlDreamer: well, was the original OO of just blessed hashes worst? inside-out? etc? | 20:07 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: colin * r10666 /WebGUI/ (docs/changelog/7.x.x.txt lib/WebGUI/Form/Textarea.pm): Fix wrong attribute for script tag in Dataform. | 20:08 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: colin * r10667 /branch/WebGUI_7.6/ (docs/changelog/7.x.x.txt lib/WebGUI/Form/Textarea.pm): Backporting script attribute fix for Form/Textarea | 20:08 |
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topsub | Is there a way to disable emails that a user would get from buying something from webgui? | 21:26 |
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+perlDreamer | topsub, in 7.7 there will be | 22:47 |
+perlDreamer | I think | 22:47 |
+perlDreamer | in 7.7 there will be a way to configure how/if you get inbox notifications | 22:47 |
topsub | pd, ahh | 22:48 |
topsub | i think i found the sub that sends out emails that i will override if the client approves the time | 22:48 |
topsub | we have a custom pay driver that i can move the sub into and almost "null" it out | 22:48 |
* perlDreamer can't remember whether that emails directly, or whether it is an inbox message. | 22:55 |
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+perlDreamer | it goes through the inbox | 22:58 |
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+perlDreamer | hey, Haarg! | 23:03 |
@Haarg | greetings | 23:03 |
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+perlDreamer | EPO Ironman is up to 100 signups in its first month | 23:16 |
+perlDreamer | including recent submits from patspam and perlDreamer | 23:16 |
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+perlDreamer | Haarg, I think there may be a bug in Crud's serialized data types | 00:55 |
+perlDreamer | are you close to release? | 00:55 |
@Haarg | yes | 00:55 |
@Haarg | what is the bug? | 00:55 |
+perlDreamer | I have a crud field set to serialize automatically | 00:56 |
+perlDreamer | when I call update on it, it writes data to the database, then it resets the field to be the dataDefaultValue | 00:56 |
@Haarg | hrm | 00:56 |
+perlDreamer | that's what it looks like anyway | 00:56 |
+perlDreamer | and there's no use of serialize in the core so far | 00:57 |
+perlDreamer | time to start writing tests with a dummy class :) | 00:57 |
@Haarg | well, this isn't a priority for the release since crud isn't even used in core in 7.6 | 00:58 |
+perlDreamer | no, I just wanted to know how much time I had | 00:58 |
+perlDreamer | also, dataDefault for the field needs to be a string to create the database, but it needs to be a data structure when building the object | 01:00 |
@Haarg | fun | 01:02 |
@Haarg | assets have the same problems | 01:02 |
+perlDreamer | really? | 01:02 |
+perlDreamer | how do the assets handle it? | 01:02 |
@Haarg | default is used both for form controls and for update | 01:02 |
+perlDreamer | oy | 01:02 |
+perlDreamer | so it breaks for the list types, or is there a fix in there? | 01:03 |
@Haarg | form controls accept whatever they are designed to, sometimes strings, sometimes structs. update only accepts strings. | 01:03 |
@Haarg | no fix yet | 01:03 |
+perlDreamer | any opinions on "the right way" to fix Crud? | 01:03 |
@Haarg | that was the problem wgd edit Template was running into if you remember | 01:03 |
+perlDreamer | oh, yes | 01:03 |
@Haarg | we 'fixed' it by changing the default to a string instead of an array | 01:03 |
@Haarg | since there was no reason for it to be an array anyway | 01:04 |
@Haarg | but that didn't help the underlying cause | 01:04 |
@Haarg | crud should be simpler to fix i would think | 01:04 |
+perlDreamer | it's all the same codebase, so basically yes | 01:04 |
@Haarg | hmm | 01:04 |
* perlDreamer is tempted to do the other fix | 01:04 |
+perlDreamer | and make dataDefault a data structure | 01:04 |
@Haarg | does it use the forms api as well? | 01:05 |
+perlDreamer | well, you can hack it to make it do that | 01:05 |
+perlDreamer | that would mean, strings | 01:05 |
@Haarg | better for it not to really | 01:05 |
@Haarg | the correct fix for asset's problem is to have update run every value through the forms api | 01:05 |
@Haarg | which is kind of a significant change and i don't like the speed implications it will have | 01:06 |
+perlDreamer | no, that wouldn't be fast | 01:06 |
@Haarg | crud is more self contained so i would think it could just convert the default as needed | 01:06 |
+perlDreamer | from string to data? | 01:06 |
+perlDreamer | or the other way? | 01:07 |
* perlDreamer is leaning toward string, because it's very nice to have HTMLForm->dynamicForm build the forms for your Crud methods | 01:07 |
+perlDreamer | (which I'd forgotten about earlier) | 01:07 |
@Haarg | i think allowing structures in the default would be preferable | 01:09 |
+perlDreamer | why? | 01:10 |
@Haarg | because the whole point of the Crud, including the serialize flag is that you shouldn't have to think about the underlying storage mechanism | 01:12 |
@Haarg | form controls generally accept structs for value/default | 01:12 |
+perlDreamer | this is true | 01:12 |
+perlDreamer | wg8 can't come soon enough | 01:13 |
+perlDreamer | we won't have time/resources to fix it all though, will we? | 01:13 |
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@Haarg | not really | 01:13 |
+perlDreamer | I don't think data structures will work with serialize | 01:14 |
@Haarg | why not? | 01:14 |
+perlDreamer | what kind of Form type is JSON? | 01:14 |
@Haarg | this is a problem in update? | 01:14 |
+perlDreamer | we store it as text in the db | 01:15 |
@Haarg | <perlDreamer> I don't think data structures will work with serialize < you mean when using it with forms or fixing your initial problem? | 01:16 |
+perlDreamer | I mean at all | 01:16 |
+perlDreamer | I think they have to be strings | 01:16 |
@Haarg | why? | 01:16 |
@Haarg | fixing your initial problem is simple from what i see | 01:16 |
+perlDreamer | well, because of the answer to the question I posed above, "What kind of Form type is JSON?" | 01:17 |
+perlDreamer | serialized data is stored as text in the db | 01:17 |
zylopfa | Hello WebGUIans | 01:17 |
+perlDreamer | and crud_updateTable uses the form API to set column types | 01:17 |
+perlDreamer | hm, SelectList works with hashes, but not arrays | 01:20 |
+perlDreamer | and it's databaseFieldType is LONGTEXT | 01:20 |
@Haarg | the same problem of how to define column type exists whether you allow structs or not | 01:21 |
zylopfa | longtext is a big mofo with space | 01:22 |
@Haarg | you have to handle serialized structs manually anyway with form -> crud storage | 01:24 |
+perlDreamer | yes | 01:24 |
@Haarg | so i don't think it makes a difference really | 01:24 |
+perlDreamer | probably not, aside from handling update, crud_tableUpdate and everything else correctly | 01:25 |
+perlDreamer | correctly and consistently | 01:25 |
+perlDreamer | okay, I'll try data structures | 01:25 |
@Haarg | crud->updateFromFormPost looks broken though | 01:26 |
@Haarg | or maybe not | 01:26 |
@Haarg | i guess not | 01:26 |
+perlDreamer | it works okay, I've used it before, although not with a serialized data structure | 01:26 |
+perlDreamer | okay, so here's the convention I think I'm going with | 01:27 |
+perlDreamer | data structures in the crud_defintion | 01:27 |
+perlDreamer | crud_getProperties returns the definition unaltered | 01:27 |
+perlDreamer | users of crud_getProperties are expected to serialize when necessary | 01:27 |
@Haarg | i think this is actually just a typo | 01:30 |
+perlDreamer | in uFFP? | 01:30 |
+perlDreamer | maybe we need a JSON dummy form type | 01:31 |
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+perlDreamer | it is purposefully broken | 01:31 |
+perlDreamer | never processes form data | 01:31 |
@Haarg | http://gist.github.com/107254 | 01:31 |
+perlDreamer | yes, that's a typo, but then consider when create calls update with a data structure | 01:33 |
+perlDreamer | which is where I am now | 01:33 |
@Haarg | it will be encoded and stored | 01:33 |
@Haarg | i guess i don't see the problem | 01:36 |
+perlDreamer | I think the problem is that I'm tired, and not thinking straight | 01:36 |
@Haarg | i'm going to fix that typo in 7.6 | 01:37 |
zylopfa | Sweet | 01:38 |
@Haarg | i'll be back in a bit | 01:39 |
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CIA-23 | WebGUI: graham * r10668 /branch/WebGUI_7.6/t/ (23 files in 13 dirs): Change tests to use the automatic backup of Settings in END blocks. | 02:02 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: graham * r10669 /branch/WebGUI_7.6/t/lib/WebGUI/Test.pm: | 02:02 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: Only clone the data from Setting. This prevents trying to close the | 02:02 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: session dbh twice and getting odd warning messages. | 02:02 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: graham * r10670 /branch/WebGUI_7.6/t/ (Asset/Post.t Group.t Asset/Asset.t lib/WebGUI/Test.pm): | 02:02 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: Provide a way for WebGUI::Test to register groups to clean up at | 02:02 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: the end of a test. | 02:02 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: Convert several tests to use that, including Post.t, which leaked Groups. | 02:02 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: graham * r10671 /branch/WebGUI_7.6/t/lib/WebGUI/Test.pm: Forward port auto storage deletion code for WebGUI::Test. | 02:02 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: graham * r10672 /branch/WebGUI_7.6/t/lib/WebGUI/Test.pm: Handle automatically cleaning up users at the end of a test. | 02:02 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: graham * r10673 /branch/WebGUI_7.6/t/Asset/Post.t: fix Post test cleaning up core groups | 02:02 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: graham * r10674 /branch/WebGUI_7.6/ (lib/WebGUI/Session/Setting.pm t/Session/Setting.t): | 02:02 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: Have Setting's get work like other gets by returning a hashref when | 02:02 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: no param is requested. | 02:02 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: graham * r10675 /branch/WebGUI_7.6/t/ (Mail/Send.t smtpd.pl): improve handling of SMTP test server | 02:03 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: graham * r10676 /branch/WebGUI_7.6/ (docs/changelog/7.x.x.txt lib/WebGUI/Crud.pm): fixed: serialized fields in WebGUI::Crud were broken | 02:03 |
daviddelikat | I just had an upgrade fail http://webgui.pastebin.com/d39c9fd1a looking for HTML/Packer.pm | 02:14 |
daviddelikat | is that a new package from CPAN that I need to install? | 02:15 |
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CIA-23 | WebGUI: graham * r10678 /releases/WebGUI_7.6.22-stable: Release 7.6.22-stable | 03:37 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: graham * r10679 /branch/WebGUI_7.6/ (4 files in 4 dirs): preparing for 7.6.23 dev | 03:37 |
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ckotilHOME | Any one notice something funky about search results around 7.5.40? At 7.5.32 my search results would contain keywords in with the results. At 7.5.40 they only contain metadata. No more keywords. | 04:18 |
ckotilHOME | change logs are sparse from 7.5.31 - 7.6.0 | 04:20 |
ckotilHOME | i guess ill upgrade from 7.5.32 to 7.5.40 manually untill i find the culprit | 04:21 |
ckotilHOME | aha! funkiness appears at 7.5.35 | 04:30 |
ckotilHOME | ohh, i have major problems with this release. macro's arent executing. | 04:40 |
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CIA-23 | WebGUI: patspam * r10680 /WebGUI/ (5 files in 4 dirs): | 05:54 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: Added Country question type to Survey | 05:54 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: Refactored WebGUI::Form::Country so that it can be used to return a list of countries | 05:54 |
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+perlDreamer | setRow will handle sparse data, won't it? | 07:05 |
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CIA-23 | WebGUI: Refactored Survey ExpressionEngine tag() util into tag() setter and tagged() accessor. | 09:02 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: Updated i18n to reflect the fact that min/max/step are used for all numeric types, not just slider. | 09:02 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: Also updated textCols/Rows i18n. | 09:02 |
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daviddelikat | is there a perl test function/module that will do a deep comparison of a JSON data set returned from a function? | 15:19 |
+BartJol | daviddelikat: me thinks perldreamer will know | 15:36 |
daviddelikat | thanks, that seems likely, he usually drops in around 10:ish I('ll have to aska gain then. | 15:38 |
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+BartJol | to what do you want to compare it? | 15:48 |
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+BartJol | mmm, I should code more | 15:54 |
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+BartJol | happy birthday khenn_! | 15:57 |
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@khenn | thanks Bart =) | 15:57 |
+BartJol | how young are you now? | 15:57 |
@khenn | 34 years young | 15:58 |
+BartJol | oooh, so you have some more happy years tanking to go! | 15:58 |
+BartJol | very good | 15:59 |
@khenn | yep | 15:59 |
carogray | yoo hoo - how do you "force the calendar to update" to get a big webgui calendar to display feeds from little calendars? | 16:04 |
carogray | I am going round and round with scheduler and workflows and cannot figure out steps to make the calendar update | 16:05 |
carogray | I put 4 calendars in yesterday | 16:05 |
carogray | added ?func=ical to the end of each of the URLs and then put those URLs in the big calendar | 16:06 |
carogray | big calendar not showing little calendar's stuff | 16:06 |
+BartJol | carogray: sorry I don't know | 16:18 |
carogray | k- thanks | 16:18 |
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daviddelikat | carogray: in your big calendar you need to set the feed interval | 16:20 |
daviddelikat | it is on the display tab when you edit the asset. | 16:21 |
carogray | ok will have a look | 16:21 |
daviddelikat | no sorry, thats not the right bit, give me a minute... | 16:22 |
carogray | whoops - yeah that didn't seem quite right "period of time displayed in the icalendar feed" doesn't look like what I need | 16:26 |
daviddelikat | I know I've seen the setting but I cant remember quite where | 16:26 |
daviddelikat | i'll have it in a minute though | 16:26 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: translation * r10682 /translations/German/German/Shop.pm: Update from translation server | 16:27 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: translation * r10683 /translations/German/German/Shop.pm: Update from translation server | 16:27 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: translation * r10684 /translations/German/German/Shop.pm: Update from translation server | 16:27 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: translation * r10685 /translations/German/German/Shop.pm: Update from translation server | 16:27 |
daviddelikat | carogray: there is supposed to be an 'update calendar feed' but it seems to have gone AWOL. I don't know why and unfortunately don't have any more time to investigate... | 16:39 |
carogray | ok thanks... will keep it on my plate and continue asking passersby. Thanks for investigating and confirming my suspicions. | 16:40 |
daviddelikat | i found it... | 16:41 |
daviddelikat | from the adminmenu go to the workflow are | 16:41 |
daviddelikat | ...area | 16:41 |
daviddelikat | then add new workflow | 16:42 |
daviddelikat | it says 'no object' with a save butotn, click save | 16:42 |
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daviddelikat | the update cal feed is the second on the list at the bottom, select it | 16:43 |
daviddelikat | then save it | 16:43 |
daviddelikat | then put a name in for the workflow and save it also | 16:44 |
daviddelikat | don't forget to mark it as enabled | 16:45 |
daviddelikat | carogray: are you catching this? | 16:45 |
carogray | thanks - no I wasn't now I am paying attention! | 16:46 |
daviddelikat | after you save the last bit then you can go to the schedular and schedule the workflow. | 16:46 |
daviddelikat | does it make sense? | 16:47 |
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carogray | what about Mode? I was just reading about serial, parallel and singleton...I am sure I don't want parallel - running in the background when WebGUI has time, nor singleton - I think I want serial | 16:48 |
daviddelikat | I think singlton is what you want. | 16:49 |
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daviddelikat | this is like email, in that you want it to run periodically, but not overlap | 16:50 |
carogray | ok - | 16:50 |
carogray | I will make it singleton | 16:50 |
carogray | when I went to scheduler, it was already in there | 16:50 |
daviddelikat | there is another workflow that schedules items that are enabled ... | 16:52 |
carogray | aah so that workflow adds it to scheduler automatically | 16:53 |
carogray | ok - well I ran it and of course....large calendar isn't showing small calendar's events :( | 16:54 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: translation * r10686 /translations/German/German/PayDriver.pm: Update from translation server | 16:54 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: martin * r10687 /WebGUI/ (7 files in 6 dirs): Pluggable Tax: more POD, more tests, better code and less bugs | 16:54 |
carogray | cleared server cache and browser cach | 16:54 |
carogray | e | 16:54 |
daviddelikat | then check to make sure the URLs are correct. | 16:55 |
daviddelikat | the easy way to do that is to copy them from the calendar setup and paste them into the address location in your browser | 16:56 |
daviddelikat | it should try to download the ical data to your desktop | 16:56 |
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carogray | yup did that already just double checked again | 17:00 |
carogray | I right click on the edit button for the calendar | 17:00 |
carogray | then substitute 'edit' with 'ical' | 17:00 |
carogray | I tried your way | 17:00 |
carogray | ical link on calendar, save to desktop but it gives me | 17:01 |
carogray | feed.ics | 17:01 |
carogray | when I open in notepad I seem to get | 17:01 |
carogray | X-WEBGUI-URL:caroline_robinson/calendar/caroline | 17:01 |
carogray | whereas url I thought I ought to be using is: http://www.mlri.org/caroline_robinson/calendar?func=ical | 17:02 |
daviddelikat | may I click on that link? | 17:02 |
carogray | I wonder could it be something with permissions? of course, but the calendars are only visible to mlri staff | 17:03 |
carogray | I can make viewable to all for a sec if you think that might help. | 17:03 |
daviddelikat | I'd like to see the data | 17:03 |
carogray | I mean of course, click on thelink | 17:03 |
* daviddelikat needs a faster computer | 17:06 |
daviddelikat | ive got the file. | 17:06 |
daviddelikat | there is nothing in it | 17:06 |
carogray | huh. | 17:07 |
carogray | I haven't made the calendar viewable to everyone - could that be why? | 17:07 |
daviddelikat | yes | 17:07 |
daviddelikat | it could also be why your big calendar is not getting any data | 17:08 |
daviddelikat | you may need to make the calendar viewable to the user that runs the scheduled jobs | 17:08 |
daviddelikat | i don't know off hand what id that would be tyhough | 17:08 |
daviddelikat | does the big calendar show an update date for the feeds? | 17:09 |
carogray | ugh... | 17:11 |
carogray | sorry just playing with it a little | 17:11 |
carogray | just made my calendar viewable to everyone | 17:11 |
carogray | then I clicked on the link I gave you | 17:11 |
carogray | in IE | 17:11 |
carogray | asks me if I want to save or open the ics file | 17:12 |
carogray | I picked save to desktop... | 17:12 |
carogray | empty except for BEGIN:VCALENDAR | 17:12 |
carogray | PRODID:WebGUI 7.6.15-stable | 17:12 |
carogray | VERSION:2.0 | 17:12 |
carogray | END:VCALENDAR | 17:12 |
carogray | hah | 17:12 |
carogray | when I did it before from the calendar itself...I got: | 17:13 |
carogray | BEGIN:VCALENDAR | 17:13 |
carogray | PRODID:WebGUI 7.6.15-stable | 17:13 |
carogray | VERSION:2.0 | 17:13 |
carogray | BEGIN:VEVENT | 17:13 |
carogray | UID:W03J3qc4aXK6r9XweCfRNA@www.mlri.org | 17:13 |
carogray | LAST-MODIFIED:20090506T125612Z | 17:13 |
carogray | CREATED:20090505T200710Z | 17:13 |
carogray | SEQUENCE:1 | 17:13 |
carogray | DTSTART;VALUE=DATE:20090519 | 17:13 |
carogray | DTEND;VALUE=DATE:20090532 | 17:13 |
carogray | SUMMARY:Caroline on Holiday | 17:13 |
carogray | DESCRIPTION: | 17:13 |
carogray | LOCATION: | 17:13 |
carogray | X-WEBGUI-GROUPIDVIEW:26 | 17:13 |
carogray | X-WEBGUI-GROUPIDEDIT:4 | 17:13 |
carogray | X-WEBGUI-URL:caroline_robinson/calendar/caroline | 17:13 |
carogray | X-WEBGUI-MENUTITLE:Caroline | 17:13 |
carogray | END:VEVENT | 17:13 |
carogray | END:VCALENDAR | 17:13 |
carogray | oh jeez! sorry about taking up so much space in the chat room - returns I guess | 17:13 |
daviddelikat | best to uyse pastebin for any thingmore than a couple of lines... | 17:14 |
carogray | yeah! OOPS. | 17:15 |
carogray | so now that I have made my calendar public.. | 17:15 |
carogray | I looked at in IE not logged in and there are no events in the calendar | 17:15 |
daviddelikat | perhaps the events themselves are still not public... | 17:16 |
carogray | do you think that when the calendar was private, the events I added..right | 17:16 |
carogray | that's what I am thinking... | 17:16 |
carogray | so I just added another event now that it is public... | 17:18 |
carogray | doesn't show up | 17:18 |
daviddelikat | how does it look when you are logged in? | 17:18 |
carogray | May 6 - month view, Lunch with May Yoga Advocacy Meeting - each on its own line | 17:20 |
carogray | I am going to asset manager to check security on individual events | 17:22 |
daviddelikat | look at the bottom of the event in 'edit event' and see what the setting is for 'group to view this event' | 17:22 |
carogray | aah | 17:23 |
carogray | mmm | 17:24 |
carogray | I edited the branch and made security for calendar and recursively view by everyone.. | 17:24 |
carogray | when Idid what yousuggested 'everyone' was in group | 17:25 |
carogray | refreshed browser and at least events now show up in MY calendar now that it is public.. | 17:25 |
carogray | however events from my calendar still not showing up in big, MLRI - viewable only to mlri staff - calendar | 17:26 |
carogray | ran update feeds workflow activity again too | 17:26 |
daviddelikat | did you re-run the update workflow? | 17:27 |
carogray | yep | 17:27 |
daviddelikat | also check the last update date on the feeds in the big calendar | 17:28 |
daviddelikat | if the job has not finished yet they may still show up | 17:28 |
carogray | Success! 1 added, 0 updated, 0 parsing errors | 17:29 |
carogray | 2009-05-06 13:38:45 | 17:29 |
daviddelikat | yippeee! | 17:29 |
daviddelikat | now to get it to work the way you want it to | 17:29 |
carogray | that's right- except the events are not showing up in teh calendar | 17:29 |
carogray | oh | 17:29 |
daviddelikat | the callendar may be a caching issue | 17:30 |
carogray | like everything else in WebGUI ;) | 17:30 |
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daviddelikat | cache makes fast queries but painfull debgging | 17:30 |
carogray | I cleared the cache iin admin console | 17:30 |
daviddelikat | fortunately we dont always debug | 17:31 |
daviddelikat | well you dont | 17:31 |
daviddelikat | I debug every day | 17:31 |
carogray | I come across bugs every day - probably usually the same ones and this project was supposed to take my mind off the bug that has been preoccupying me for the last 5 weeks | 17:32 |
carogray | grumpf | 17:32 |
daviddelikat | which bug is that? | 17:32 |
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carogray | it's something David Huggins is working on for me to do with env('httpreferer') and mail data forms | 17:33 |
carogray | it's not probably technically a 'bug' ...yet | 17:33 |
daviddelikat | everything is a bug from some point of view | 17:34 |
carogray | then of course, you don't want to know about the bugs my son is breeding out in the garden until we manage to get a tractor to dig a whole to bury all the carcasses from the farm collected over the winter...blech gag... | 17:35 |
carogray | dig a hole | 17:35 |
daviddelikat | swounds like fun | 17:36 |
carogray | so ... back to calendars, now that the technical end of webgui seems to think our calendars are working how do get people to think the calendars are working | 17:36 |
carogray | ? | 17:36 |
carogray | it's a far cry from computers...farming | 17:36 |
daviddelikat | so did the stuff show up aftrer clearing the cache? | 17:37 |
carogray | nope | 17:37 |
xdanger | could someone verify my bug finding? is there any devs around? | 17:40 |
daviddelikat | theres folksa round, i can peek if its quick | 17:41 |
xdanger | there is a error in the upgrade script of 7.6.0 -> 7.6.1 | 17:41 |
xdanger | the column postReceivedTemplateId is updated incorrectly | 17:42 |
xdanger | in upgrade_7.5.24-7.6.0.pl: $session->db->write("ALTER TABLE Collaboration ADD COLUMN postReceivedTemplateId VARCHAR(22) DEFAULT 'default-post-received';"); | 17:42 |
daviddelikat | sorry, thats going to be beyond me | 17:42 |
xdanger | but in 7.6.0-7.6.1 there is a fixShort assetId that fixes it: 'default_post_received' => 'default_post_received1', | 17:43 |
daviddelikat | more fols pop up arount 10 though | 17:43 |
daviddelikat | s/fols/folks/ !fools | 17:43 |
daviddelikat | :) | 17:43 |
daviddelikat | carogray: can you see the events from big cal if you are logged in? | 17:45 |
carogray | nope | 17:46 |
daviddelikat | I hope you don't mind but I am trying to pull them into a calendar on my test environment | 17:46 |
daviddelikat | I wipe the DB about once a week | 17:47 |
daviddelikat | so it wont be here long | 17:47 |
carogray | of course not... | 17:47 |
carogray | when I am on holiday, the fact that I have lunch with a vietnamese translator and yoga and advocacy meeting all scheduled at once are hardly private info | 17:47 |
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carogray | just not particularly professional to be advertising to the rest of the world | 17:48 |
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+perlDreamer | Mech422, Story Manager was released with WebGUI 7.7.5, if you'd like to play with it. | 17:49 |
+perlDreamer | Haarg, I got all the bugs worked out of serialized Crud data last night | 17:50 |
+perlDreamer | I'll side port the patch and create some more test to validate it further. | 17:50 |
@Haarg | cool | 17:50 |
@Haarg | what else needed to be fixed? | 17:51 |
+perlDreamer | update | 17:52 |
+perlDreamer | update created 1 hash which was used to update the object cache, and to write to the db | 17:53 |
+perlDreamer | unfortunately, they need different kinds of data | 17:53 |
+perlDreamer | JSON => db | 17:53 |
+perlDreamer | data => object | 17:53 |
@Haarg | ah | 17:55 |
daviddelikat | carogray: the only event that transfered was the vacation item | 17:55 |
daviddelikat | it does not chow up in calendar view foer some reason | 17:55 |
daviddelikat | just found it by searching | 17:56 |
carogray | oh no.. | 17:56 |
daviddelikat | i think you are going to have to seek a higher level techie to solve this issue | 17:56 |
carogray | so much for productive diversions | 17:56 |
carogray | well thanks so much for trying so diligently...and for so long. I do appreciate it. | 17:57 |
daviddelikat | well there should be more people coming on board soon | 17:57 |
daviddelikat | the workflow is running -- thats productive... | 17:57 |
carogray | yeah...I guess so. thing is I don't want to distract WebGUI support from the big problem I mentioned earlier... will just have to put this on the back burner again for a while.. | 17:58 |
carogray | again thanks for trying...we did make a little progress. | 17:59 |
+perlDreamer | xdanger: thanks for the bug fix! | 18:07 |
xdanger | no problem | 18:08 |
xdanger | to bad that I didn't notice it before 7.6.22 was released =) | 18:09 |
+perlDreamer | it's all right, we'll get it fixed in .23 | 18:09 |
+perlDreamer | it's an easy fix | 18:10 |
xdanger | yeah, fixeded it on my sites already | 18:10 |
daviddelikat | perlDreamer: is there a perl test function to do deep comparison on JSON data returned by a perl function? | 18:17 |
+perlDreamer | JSON data is text, so you can use like($jsonData, qr/gnarly regexp/, 'JSON check'); | 18:18 |
+MrHairgrease | daviddelikat: cmp_deeply( from_json, ...) | 18:18 |
+perlDreamer | exactly | 18:18 |
+perlDreamer | cmp_deeply is provided from Test::Deep | 18:18 |
+perlDreamer | and you can find examples of it being used that way in the Shop/Tax tests | 18:19 |
+MrHairgrease | cmp_deeply( from_json( $JSONString), ...) that is | 18:19 |
daviddelikat | thanks that is what I was hoping you were saying | 18:19 |
+perlDreamer | there's also Test::JSON, but we haven't used it yet | 18:21 |
+MrHairgrease | Test::JSON seems a bit sucky | 18:22 |
+MrHairgrease | I think it's better to use Test::Deep | 18:23 |
+MrHairgrease | b/c it has muchg more powerful comparison functionality | 18:23 |
+perlDreamer | I agree. The only advantage I see in Test::JSON is that it displays the differences in the JSON, vs the data structure | 18:25 |
+perlDreamer | but that's pretty minimal | 18:25 |
+MrHairgrease | yeah but oinly 1 level deep | 18:26 |
+MrHairgrease | anyway | 18:26 |
+MrHairgrease | gotta go | 18:26 |
+MrHairgrease | later | 18:26 |
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+perlDreamer | bopbop: are you still seeing this bug happen http://www.webgui.org/bugs/tracker/9029 | 18:43 |
daviddelikat | what is the easiest way to manage revisions on an asset? | 18:47 |
daviddelikat | im selecting some items with SQL and I want to make sure that I have the latest row | 18:48 |
daviddelikat | can I exclude rows with s simple clause? | 18:48 |
daviddelikat | or do I have to go through the data with perl? | 18:48 |
+perlDreamer | you do a subselect on the revisionDate | 18:50 |
+perlDreamer | there are examples of it in Asset/Template.pm | 18:50 |
daviddelikat | do you know how much that slows down the query? | 18:52 |
daviddelikat | I'm getting EMSTicket rows and I'm told there may be thousands | 18:53 |
+perlDreamer | very well could be | 18:53 |
+perlDreamer | but you have to do that to find the latest version | 18:53 |
+perlDreamer | at one point, rizen did some profiling of the cost of the subselect, and it was small | 18:53 |
+perlDreamer | I think | 18:53 |
daviddelikat | or I could chug through it in perl and delete the old rows. | 18:53 |
+perlDreamer | that might be slower still | 18:54 |
+perlDreamer | because you'd returning huge amounts of data | 18:54 |
+perlDreamer | versus a more complex query | 18:54 |
daviddelikat | yeah | 18:54 |
daviddelikat | 'course the other bit is that i really only want data for select locations | 18:55 |
daviddelikat | and location does not seem to have an index | 18:55 |
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CIA-23 | WebGUI: colin * r10688 /branch/WebGUI_7.6/docs/ (4 files in 2 dirs): | 19:02 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: Fix a bug with the CS default post received template id. db defaults pointed | 19:02 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: to a template that does not exist. | 19:02 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: colin * r10689 /WebGUI/docs/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Forward porting CS default post received templateId fix for the db. | 19:02 |
daviddelikat | perlDreamer: do I need to include the bit about the version tag? | 19:05 |
+perlDreamer | what's the goal of what you're trying to do? | 19:06 |
daviddelikat | im selecting rows to put in a table | 19:06 |
daviddelikat | putting up the schedule for the event | 19:06 |
+perlDreamer | yes, you do | 19:07 |
daviddelikat | im asking mostly because i dont really understand how the whole rev control thing works in wg | 19:07 |
+perlDreamer | because it would let people working under version tags see what their proposed (uncommitted) tickets will do to the schedule | 19:07 |
daviddelikat | is the version tag always going to be in the scratch? | 19:07 |
+perlDreamer | yes | 19:09 |
daviddelikat | k thanks | 19:09 |
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+perlDreamer | Haarg, sounds like I'm still screwed. | 20:15 |
+perlDreamer | mysql won't let a default be set on text column types | 20:15 |
+perlDreamer | "Root cause: BLOB/TEXT column 'jsonField' can't have a default value" | 20:16 |
daviddelikat | have you considered usinga trigger? | 20:17 |
daviddelikat | or is that bad karma? | 20:17 |
+perlDreamer | yes, but killing Mysql is not the answer | 20:18 |
+perlDreamer | sorry, bad pun there. trigger/gun vs db/trigger | 20:19 |
daviddelikat | oh i see | 20:19 |
daviddelikat | i had not made that jump... | 20:19 |
+perlDreamer | it was probably better not to ;) | 20:20 |
daviddelikat | my first thought was a horse | 20:20 |
daviddelikat | i forget whos horse it was | 20:20 |
daviddelikat | i gottta go to my other job | 20:26 |
daviddelikat | back in a few hours... | 20:26 |
+perlDreamer | somebody spammed the wiki for ads for armed security guards | 20:30 |
+perlDreamer | of course, the Crud thing is not strictly due to serializing | 20:35 |
+perlmonkey2 | perlDreamer: you have any idea how Crypt::Admin is supposed to be tied into the admin panel? | 20:41 |
+perlDreamer | none | 20:41 |
+perlDreamer | probably needs a content handler for the interface, which means it goes into the config file in the admin console section | 20:41 |
+perlmonkey2 | perlDreamer: I don't see anything else in the admin panel that works like that though. | 20:42 |
+perlDreamer | Asset Manager | 20:43 |
+perlDreamer | Asset History | 20:43 |
+perlmonkey2 | ah | 20:43 |
+perlDreamer | Shop | 20:43 |
+perlmonkey2 | oh | 20:43 |
+perlmonkey2 | ic | 20:43 |
+perlmonkey2 | thanks ;) | 20:43 |
+perlDreamer | np | 20:44 |
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+perlDreamer | okay, time for an early run | 20:58 |
+perlDreamer | later, y'all | 20:58 |
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+perlmonkey2 | perlDreamer: you have any idea what's going on with the crypt branch? master has a crypt content manager but not crypt. | 22:29 |
+perlmonkey2 | has crypt dev moved to the master branch? | 22:29 |
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+perlDreamer | no idea, perlmonkey2 | 23:03 |
SynQ | ohm | 23:24 |
* SynQ is a xen buddist | 23:24 |
+perlDreamer | SynQ is an electrician | 23:24 |
SynQ | perlDreamer: congrats with your webgui-worldwide entry :) | 23:25 |
+perlDreamer | webgui worldwide? | 23:25 |
* SynQ notices everything | 23:25 |
SynQ | http://www.webgui.org/w3/webgui-worldwide/perldreamer-consulting | 23:26 |
+perlDreamer | wow! | 23:26 |
+perlDreamer | that's awesome | 23:26 |
+perlDreamer | thank you SynQ | 23:27 |
+perlDreamer | I thought you were talking about my post to the partner's list about the hackathon | 23:27 |
preaction | when did w3 come back? | 23:28 |
SynQ | w3 never went away | 23:28 |
preaction | new design then? | 23:28 |
SynQ | not really | 23:28 |
SynQ | it's been so for a while now | 23:28 |
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+perlDreamer | I really want to build some caching into Crud | 23:50 |
+perlDreamer | at least things like getTableName, getTableKey, etc. | 23:50 |
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+perlDreamer | I think the end of the world is near | 01:13 |
+perlDreamer | First, we have this swine flu stuff | 01:13 |
+perlDreamer | now I hear the several trees in a local park are going to have to be cut down | 01:13 |
+perlDreamer | because they have schwieneiggi butt rot | 01:13 |
+perlDreamer | for those of you who don't speak German, that's piggy butt rot | 01:14 |
+perlDreamer | if that crosses over like the swine flu did, we're screwed | 01:14 |
@tavisto | I think JT already has butt rot | 01:19 |
+perlDreamer | you only say that because he's not in channel, and doesn't read the IRC logs | 01:20 |
@tavisto | nah I say that because I share quite a few hotel rooms with him while I'm on the tradeshow schedule | 01:20 |
+perlDreamer | oh, well then | 01:20 |
@tavisto | I don't read the IRC logs either.. Who on earth has time to do that | 01:20 |
+perlDreamer | :) | 01:20 |
+perlDreamer | Are you going to give WWN an exclusive interview recap of AdTech? | 01:21 |
Chizad | don't read 'em, just run 'em through grep so you can see if anyone said anything about you while you weren't around. :) | 01:21 |
@tavisto | actually I thought JT was going to blog about this.. That's true we haven't posted anything about ad:tech yet. | 01:22 |
preaction | tavisto: Re: the "too hard to find source install" thing | 01:24 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: colin * r10691 /WebGUI/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Fix an i18n typo in the survey exitURL hover help. | 01:24 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: colin * r10692 /branch/WebGUI_7.6/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Backporting Survey i18n fix. | 01:24 |
@tavisto | yeah pre | 01:24 |
@tavisto | I honestly thought we did fine by hiding it a bit.. JT wanted to as well | 01:25 |
preaction | if they're asking for it, does it mean they're using it? and if they're using it, no matter how difficult it may be to install, should we not make it at least easy to find? | 01:25 |
@tavisto | We also need a new box for the Local Debian & Ubuntu installs | 01:25 |
preaction | i know we had this dicussion last month | 01:25 |
@tavisto | well, I'm okay with adding it as the 3rd box. It previously was the 2nd box | 01:26 |
@tavisto | Susan Baur and Knowmad both reported it | 01:26 |
@tavisto | which kinda scares me in a way.... that they want the source install | 01:26 |
@tavisto | but hey if they want it then I don't see any harm in putting it as the last option | 01:26 |
preaction | perhaps there's something wrong with the WRE they haven't mentioned | 01:27 |
@tavisto | good question. | 01:27 |
preaction | or perhaps they just want to work with their native package systems, and the WRE requires some workarounds for that (though we could fix that too) | 01:27 |
+perlDreamer | just make it the last box and say something like, "I wouldn't let my dog do a source install, but if you really want it..." | 01:28 |
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+perlDreamer | might be back on later tonight | 03:24 |
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+perlmonkey2 | Source isntalls wouldn't be an issue if Apache::Request wasn't such a pain. | 03:39 |
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+perlmonkey2 | perlbot: patspam | 05:13 |
+patspam | I am invisible | 05:14 |
+perlDreamer | perlmonkey2, where are you manners | 05:16 |
+perlDreamer | you always make introductions both ways... | 05:16 |
+perlDreamer | now perlbot's feelings are going to be hurt | 05:17 |
+perlmonkey2 | perlbot: perlDreamer | 05:17 |
perlbot | Colin Kuskie, Contributor of the Year, and jack of all trades | 05:17 |
+perlDreamer | perlbot: patspam is Patrick Donelan from SDH, and a major WebGUI Developer and community member | 05:18 |
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daviddelikat | aren't there supposed to be fireworks? | 05:18 |
daviddelikat | or at least a bottle of champagne | 05:18 |
+perlDreamer | only when we release a new version of WebGUI | 05:18 |
+perlmonkey2 | perlbot: webgui | 06:04 |
perlbot | WebGUI - an open source content management system written in Perl - http://webgui.org | Also see #webgui on irc.freenode.net | 06:04 |
+perlmonkey2 | perlbot: perl | 06:04 |
perlbot | It's Perl (for the language) or perl (for the interpreter) but NEVER 'PERL'! | 06:04 |
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+perlDreamer | I'm making a new Shipping Driver for the US Postal Service | 06:40 |
+perlDreamer | because they are very strict in XML processing, I can't use XML::Simple | 06:40 |
+perlDreamer | which means another core module for writing XML | 06:40 |
+perlDreamer | I'm heavily leaning toward XML::Writer | 06:40 |
+perlDreamer | does anyone have any experience that might sway that? | 06:41 |
+patspam | presumably XML::Tiny isn't strict enough either? | 07:12 |
+patspam | perlbot: xml | 07:12 |
perlbot | Don't parse xml with regular expressions! Use a real parser. If your response begins "that's overkill. i only want to..." you are wrong. http://perl-xml.sf.net/faq/ and http://www.xml.com/pub/a/2000/04/05/feature/ (XML parser comparisons) | 07:12 |
+patspam | perlbot: thanks! | 07:13 |
+perlDreamer | I don't think it's an emitter, only a parser | 07:13 |
perlbot | If you want to thank us, help out the perl community by sending some money (even if just a couple of dollars) to The Perl Foundation. http://donate.perlfoundation.org/ | 07:13 |
+patspam | ah sorry, just realised you want to write xml, not parse it | 07:13 |
+perlDreamer | what I really wish is that XML::Simple would not change the order of hashes that are passed to it | 07:14 |
+patspam | even when you IxHash tie them? | 07:15 |
+perlDreamer | yeah | 07:15 |
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+perlDreamer | I went and looked inside the module after I started using Tie::IxHash | 07:15 |
+perlDreamer | it sorts them on purpose | 07:16 |
+patspam | dang, you'd think they'd make that an optional thing | 07:16 |
+patspam | i guess it sorts them to make it more deterministic | 07:16 |
+patspam | since hashes are not supposed to have any sort of natural order | 07:16 |
+perlDreamer | I think it has something to do with attribute parsing. | 07:17 |
+patspam | Newer versions of XML::Simple sort elements and attributes alphabetically (*), by default. Enable this option to suppress the sorting - possibly for backwards compatibility. | 07:17 |
+patspam | * Actually, sorting is alphabetical but 'key' attribute or element names (as in 'KeyAttr') sort first. Also, when a hash of hashes is 'unfolded', the elements are sorted alphabetically by the value of the key field. | 07:17 |
+patspam | that's the "NoSort" option.. tried that? | 07:18 |
+perlDreamer | not yet | 07:18 |
+perlDreamer | you rock! | 07:18 |
+patspam | ooh, and in Hook Methods you can supply your own sorted_keys(name, hashref) function | 07:18 |
+patspam | --> Called when XMLout() is translating a hashref to XML. This routine returns a list of hash keys in the order that the corresponding attributes/elements should appear in the output. | 07:18 |
+perlDreamer | maybe I just need to take a bit and read that XML::Simple from top to bottom | 07:19 |
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+patspam | lol, just fixed my sister's macbook which she'd been told by a repair shop was dead and "not worth sending back to apple" | 07:32 |
+perlDreamer | what was the problem? bad battery? | 07:32 |
+patspam | solution: take out battery, hold down power button for 10 seconds, put battery back in & connect to power | 07:32 |
+patspam | ..and turn on | 07:32 |
+patspam | (problem was: couldn' | 07:33 |
+patspam | t turn on) | 07:33 |
+patspam | I should have added a voodoo chant in the middle for dramatic effect | 07:33 |
+perlDreamer | eh, you'd have to charge extra for the chant | 07:33 |
+perlDreamer | xkcd is too funny | 07:36 |
+patspam | heh, too many firefly references today, I'm missing all the jokes | 07:40 |
* perlDreamer is going to call it a night | 07:53 |
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CIA-23 | WebGUI: patspam * r10694 /WebGUI/ (2 files in 2 dirs): | 10:04 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: Fixed Survey jump target and jump expression precedence order across | 10:04 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: Answer, Question and Section (and improved documentation in API) | 10:04 |
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CIA-23 | WebGUI: martin * r10695 /WebGUI/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Internationalised the javascript part of the vendor payouts manager. | 15:49 |
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ckotil | I had a wiked RFE last night before i fell asleep. now i cant remember it | 16:17 |
ckotil | i knew i should have written it down | 16:17 |
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@preaction | Haarg: can you let me know when you're going to do the release? i've got a couple bugfixes for the features we added last friday | 18:31 |
@Haarg | sure | 18:31 |
@Haarg | i'm starting running the tests right now, but i can wait on the release | 18:32 |
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@preaction | ok, there's two main things i need to do quick then the rest of it can wait | 18:35 |
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@preaction | template attachments need to work with packages, and the help for the new style template vars needs to be added/updated | 18:36 |
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@Haarg | perlDreamer, t/Crud/serialize.t is failing, i think you may have missed adding a file | 18:45 |
+perlDreamer | you're right! | 18:45 |
+perlDreamer | it's the pseudo module | 18:45 |
+perlDreamer | I'll fix it now | 18:45 |
+perlDreamer | I have so many little scripts laying around that svn st is nigh on useless | 18:46 |
+perlDreamer | it's committed | 18:46 |
+perlDreamer | sorry about that, Haarg | 18:46 |
@Haarg | not a problem | 18:46 |
+perlDreamer | normally I write tests to make our lives easier :) | 18:46 |
@tavisto | perlDreamer, you are fired | 18:48 |
+perlDreamer | there's too much of that going around, tavisto | 18:48 |
@tavisto | making mistakes? how dare you. | 18:48 |
+perlDreamer | a friend of mine lost his job yesterday | 18:48 |
+perlDreamer | they did it over the phone | 18:48 |
@tavisto | did he work for that same company you did | 18:49 |
+perlDreamer | no, for all the negative things I could say about $oldDayJob, they were very polite and respectful when it came to layoffs | 18:49 |
+perlDreamer | even so, I hope the CEO forgives me for that case of boils that I prayed for. | 18:50 |
@tavisto | I thought your $oldDayJob told you to move your desk far back in your cubicle while they stole your stapler | 18:50 |
+perlDreamer | that was after I cut down the cubicle wall to get a nice window view | 18:52 |
@tavisto | *tavisto wonders if perlDreamer was Milton in Officespace* http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvGwr5wj8A8 | 18:53 |
+perlDreamer | tavisto, you haven't signed up for the hackathon yet | 18:56 |
* perlDreamer wants you to bring your mad design skills for some templating work | 18:56 |
@tavisto | since when does hackathon require design skills | 18:57 |
+perlDreamer | and someone has to keep an eye on preaction | 18:57 |
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@tavisto | all I know is that preaction promised me a pony in the next wG release... | 19:00 |
@preaction | yeah, well Avery Brooks promised me a flying car by the year 2000 | 19:01 |
@preaction | i want my flying car | 19:01 |
+perlDreamer | I don't think ponies can be licensed under the GPL | 19:02 |
@preaction | what about Acme::POE::Knee? | 19:02 |
+MrHairgrease | crap | 19:02 |
+MrHairgrease | beat me to it | 19:02 |
+perlDreamer | and I don't think we'll get flying cars before the end of the world | 19:02 |
@Haarg | perlDreamer, you're getting a bit too aggressive with the cleanup code i think | 19:02 |
+perlDreamer | what did I break? | 19:02 |
@Haarg | cleaning up default groups | 19:03 |
@Haarg | in t/Asset/Post.t | 19:03 |
@tavisto | oh dude... preaction punked me..... POE::Knee?! You gotta me kidding me | 19:03 |
@Haarg | simple to fix though | 19:03 |
+perlDreamer | we should probably fix it twice, once in t/Asset/Post.t, and again in WebGUI::Test so that it doesn't clean up default groups (like the default users code) | 19:04 |
+perlDreamer | want me to do that? | 19:04 |
@preaction | tavisto: http://search.cpan.org/~kane/Acme-POE-Knee-1.10/lib/Acme/POE/Knee.pm | 19:04 |
@Haarg | i'll do the first part | 19:04 |
+perlDreamer | maybe I was just trying to reduce the size of the create.sql file... | 19:04 |
@Haarg | heh | 19:04 |
+perlDreamer | oh, and I found a bug | 19:05 |
+perlDreamer | deleting a user does not clean up his address book(s) | 19:05 |
@Haarg | oh? | 19:05 |
+perlDreamer | I should post that so I don't forget it | 19:06 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: colin * r10696 /WebGUI/t/lib/WebGUI/Serialize.pm: Adding in pseudo-module for Crud serialization testing. | 19:08 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: graham * r10697 /WebGUI/lib/WebGUI/Workflow/Activity/ExpirePurchasedThingyRecords.pm: fix Thingy Record expiry workflow activity | 19:08 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: graham * r10698 /WebGUI/lib/WebGUI/Asset/Wobject/Survey/ResponseJSON.pm: fix pod typo | 19:08 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: graham * r10699 /WebGUI/t/Asset/Post.t: don't clean up default groups | 19:08 |
+perlDreamer | Haarg: does this list look right for default groups 1 2 3 4 6 7 8 11 12 13 14 pbgroup000000000000015 pbgroup000000000000016 pbgroup000000000000017 | 19:10 |
@Haarg | yes | 19:11 |
+perlDreamer | checked, and committed | 19:12 |
+perlDreamer | has anyone benchmarked WebGUI::Utility::isIn vs List::Utils::any? | 19:12 |
+perlDreamer | with any being written in C, you think it would be very fast | 19:13 |
+MrHairgrease | I like any better just because it's in List Utils | 19:14 |
+MrHairgrease | and isIn is home brew | 19:14 |
+MrHairgrease | but for much WG stuf I use isIn | 19:14 |
+MrHairgrease | because it's more or less the defacto stanadard in wg code | 19:15 |
@Haarg | any is in List::MoreUtils | 19:15 |
+MrHairgrease | that's what i meant | 19:15 |
+perlDreamer | what I was thinking is, if any is much faster than isIn, that we replace the guts of isIn with any | 19:15 |
@Haarg | List::Util has first | 19:15 |
@Haarg | which would work just as well | 19:15 |
+perlDreamer | well, yes and no | 19:17 |
+perlDreamer | any returns a boolean | 19:17 |
+perlDreamer | first returns the first value that matches the criterion | 19:17 |
+perlDreamer | so if you were searching for 0, you have to be careful | 19:18 |
@Haarg | defined check will take care of that though | 19:18 |
@Haarg | http://gist.github.com/108194 | 19:29 |
+perlDreamer | I'm not sure how to read that | 19:33 |
+perlDreamer | based on rate, it looks like isIn is really fast | 19:33 |
@Haarg | depending on how many elements you are searching and how fast it can short circuit, isIn is sometimes faster or slower than grep, but always faster than first and any | 19:39 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: colin * r10700 /WebGUI/t/lib/WebGUI/Test.pm: Prevent default groups from being deleted. | 19:39 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: jt * r10701 /branch/WebGUI_7.6/ (docs/changelog/7.x.x.txt lib/WebGUI/Asset.pm): fixed: URLs that shouldn't happen (#10353) | 19:39 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: jt * r10702 /WebGUI/ (docs/changelog/7.x.x.txt lib/WebGUI/Asset.pm): URLs that shouldn't happen (#10353) | 19:39 |
@preaction | i thought isIn was implemented by grep | 19:39 |
@Haarg | no | 19:39 |
@Haarg | $_ eq $key and return 1 for @_; | 19:40 |
@preaction | ah | 19:40 |
@Haarg | grep using an expression instead of a block is slightly faster than that comparison shows, but only by a little | 19:42 |
+perlDreamer | recent Asset.pm breaks Asset.t | 19:43 |
+MrHairgrease | naming question | 19:45 |
+perlDreamer | Peter and Tim for boys, Emma for girls | 19:46 |
+MrHairgrease | I have a method in the TaxDrivers that should return information that should be stored along with transactoion items | 19:46 |
+MrHairgrease | right now I've called it getConfigurationForTransactionLog | 19:46 |
+MrHairgrease | but that sound kinda sucky | 19:46 |
+MrHairgrease | any better ideas | 19:46 |
+MrHairgrease | ? | 19:46 |
+perlDreamer | getTransactionData | 19:47 |
+perlDreamer | getTaxTransactionData | 19:47 |
+MrHairgrease | get TranasctionTaxData | 19:47 |
+MrHairgrease | that's better i guess | 19:47 |
+perlDreamer | there you go! | 19:47 |
+MrHairgrease | w/o the spelling errors | 19:47 |
+MrHairgrease | mucho gracias! | 19:47 |
@preaction | it should be verbNounAdjectiveAdjectiveAdjective | 19:47 |
+MrHairgrease | I know | 19:48 |
+MrHairgrease | but I had something like getTransactionData at first | 19:48 |
+MrHairgrease | which is too confusing | 19:48 |
+MrHairgrease | does it fetch soime transaction data | 19:48 |
+MrHairgrease | or does it provide the data to store with the transaction | 19:49 |
@preaction | it fetches the Tax data for the transaction | 19:49 |
+perlDreamer | what is a parfait? | 19:50 |
+MrHairgrease | it's a desert | 19:50 |
dreamersgirl | dessert? | 19:50 |
dreamersgirl | :) | 19:50 |
+MrHairgrease | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parfait_(food) | 19:51 |
@preaction | it has layers, like an Ogre | 19:51 |
+MrHairgrease | the french version is quite good | 19:51 |
@preaction | plus everybody likes parfaits | 19:51 |
+MrHairgrease | oh wait | 19:51 |
dreamersgirl | mmmm....we were checking out these here: | 19:52 |
+MrHairgrease | I'm mixing things up | 19:52 |
dreamersgirl | http://www.oregonmomsemptynest.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=section&layout=blog&id=1&Itemid=57 | 19:52 |
dreamersgirl | they're a ways down the page | 19:52 |
+MrHairgrease | profiterole is good | 19:52 |
dreamersgirl | they look really tasty, though | 19:52 |
+MrHairgrease | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Profiterole | 19:52 |
ckotil | should testCodebase.pl complete with PASS? | 19:53 |
dreamersgirl | I like those, too | 19:53 |
+perlDreamer | ckotil, if it doesn't something is wrong | 19:54 |
ckotil | sweet. | 19:54 |
+perlDreamer | although historically there have been cases where the tests were out of date | 19:54 |
ckotil | i have a lot of .t files failing | 19:54 |
+perlmonkey2 | sweet "git config --global alias.co checkout #" | 19:54 |
+perlmonkey2 | didn't know abotu alias | 19:54 |
+perlDreamer | ckotil, what does testEnvironment.pl say? | 19:55 |
+perlDreamer | and what version are we talking about here? | 19:55 |
ckotil | testEnvironment finishes fine. | 19:55 |
ckotil | i dont have all of the optional modules tho | 19:55 |
ckotil | 7.6.22 | 19:56 |
+perlDreamer | Haarg just released that on Tuesday, which means it should run clean. | 19:56 |
+perlDreamer | which files are failing? Can you give us a paste? | 19:57 |
ckotil | sure | 19:57 |
@Haarg | which optional modules do you now have? | 19:57 |
@Haarg | *not | 19:57 |
ckotil | http://webgui.pastebin.com/m67afc5d0 | 19:57 |
ckotil | text::aspell is one | 19:57 |
* Haarg murders UNIVERSAL::can | 19:58 |
ckotil | dateTime might have a problem too | 19:58 |
ckotil | maybe whats causing the UNIVERSAL errors? | 19:58 |
ckotil | Checking for module DateTime: Called UNIVERSAL::can() as a function, not a method at /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8/DateTime/Locale.pm line 298 | 19:58 |
ckotil | OK | 19:58 |
@Haarg | they aren't really errors | 19:58 |
+perlDreamer | ckotil, did you run that on a production database? | 19:59 |
ckotil | no way. | 19:59 |
+perlDreamer | good | 19:59 |
ckotil | this is my dev host. | 19:59 |
ckotil | damn, so i did a cpan install on DateTime to update it, thinking it might clear up that UNIVERSAL::can error. it did not | 19:59 |
@preaction | Haarg: running tests before my commit, then i'm done | 19:59 |
ckotil | s/error/warning | 19:59 |
@Haarg | the universal warnings are a bug in UNIVERSAL::can as far as i'm aware | 19:59 |
+perlDreamer | ckotil: what does this say (please paste): WEBGUI_CONFIG=/data/WebGUI/sbin/../etc/globalnoc.webgui.conf CODE_COP=1 prove -v ../t/Asset/Asset.t | 20:00 |
+perlDreamer | run that from the sbin directory | 20:00 |
ckotil | k | 20:00 |
+perlDreamer | or adjust the path accordingly | 20:00 |
ckotil | do i prepend testCodebase.pl to that? | 20:01 |
+perlDreamer | no | 20:02 |
ckotil | ah ok, i see | 20:02 |
+perlDreamer | testCodebase.pl is just a somewhat handy wrapper around prove | 20:02 |
+MrHairgrease | ok, time to go home | 20:02 |
ckotil | its quite lengthy | 20:02 |
* MrHairgrease is starving | 20:02 |
+MrHairgrease | later! | 20:02 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: colin * r10703 /WebGUI/t/Asset/Asset.t: Update test to work with new fixUrl code. | 20:02 |
+perlDreamer | redirect the output into a file and paste it, please | 20:02 |
ckotil | k | 20:03 |
+perlDreamer | it will tell us exactly which tests are failing on your dev system | 20:03 |
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ckotil | http://webgui.pastebin.com/m1a68fa84 | 20:04 |
+perlDreamer | man, to test this new shipping driver I can't use Shawshank collateral, since the post office is actually going to validate the address data | 20:04 |
+perlDreamer | ckotil, tell me about your initial database setup | 20:05 |
+perlDreamer | and what's your gateway setting? | 20:05 |
ckotil | gateway is / | 20:06 |
ckotil | database is running locally on port 3306 | 20:06 |
+perlDreamer | brb | 20:06 |
+perlDreamer | the failing tests are using fixUrl | 20:08 |
+perlDreamer | and it's kind of troublesome that one that checks for /root is failing | 20:08 |
+perlDreamer | since WebGUI will break without the root node | 20:09 |
+perlDreamer | ckotil, does your dev site have a full, standard WebGUI database? | 20:10 |
ckotil | yes | 20:10 |
ckotil | i used create.sql way back when | 20:11 |
ckotil | and its a direct copy of the production site | 20:11 |
ckotil | s/copy/dump | 20:11 |
ckotil | at line 50, it says got root. then why at 51 would it expect 'root2'? | 20:15 |
ckotil | got root? now that's a nerdy shirt | 20:15 |
+perlDreamer | that's the test output | 20:19 |
+perlDreamer | what it got as test data was 'root' | 20:19 |
+perlDreamer | but it was told that the correct answer is 'root2' | 20:19 |
+perlDreamer | so that test failed | 20:19 |
+perlDreamer | and it printed those diagnostics | 20:19 |
ckotil | any idea where this root2 would be defined?/ | 20:19 |
+perlDreamer | oh no, it's the opposite of that | 20:19 |
ckotil | ./WebGUI/t/Asset/Asset.t:is($importNode->fixUrl('/root'), 'root2', 'If a node exists, appends a "2" to it'); | 20:19 |
+perlDreamer | right | 20:20 |
+perlDreamer | since it didn't append a "2" to it, the /root URL does not exist | 20:20 |
+perlDreamer | and that's bad | 20:20 |
ckotil | ohh | 20:20 |
ckotil | so get this. http://webdoc-dev.grnoc.iu.edu/root/ | 20:20 |
ckotil | page doesnt exist. that explains it | 20:20 |
+perlDreamer | how can the page not exist? | 20:20 |
+perlDreamer | that's the root node | 20:20 |
ckotil | let me check out my asset structure ;) | 20:20 |
+perlDreamer | gotcha :) | 20:20 |
ckotil | ah... heh... the .html extension! | 20:21 |
ckotil | http://webdoc-dev.grnoc.iu.edu/root.html | 20:21 |
+perlDreamer | so by default, .html is added to all URLs on your site? | 20:21 |
ckotil | yes. | 20:21 |
ckotil | as defined in the admin console > settings | 20:21 |
ckotil | its been hit or miss tho. | 20:22 |
+perlDreamer | well then, that's a test bug that has to be fixed | 20:22 |
ckotil | sometimes it works, sometimes no | 20:22 |
+perlDreamer | and your default URL, is it index.html instead of /home? | 20:22 |
ckotil | hrm, where would that be defined? | 20:22 |
ckotil | index.html takes me to the start page for my site. /home takes me nowhere | 20:23 |
+perlDreamer | also in the settings | 20:24 |
ckotil | ok. it looks like it's called default ome page | 20:25 |
+perlDreamer | right, that's it | 20:25 |
ckotil | yeah, it goes to index.html | 20:26 |
+perlDreamer | this test mistakenly assumes that the default home page is /home | 20:26 |
+perlDreamer | so the test should either change those settings to run the test, or take them into account | 20:26 |
ckotil | can't it just pulldown the values from the db? | 20:27 |
+perlDreamer | oh, it could. It just doesn't | 20:27 |
+perlDreamer | are those the only two tests that are failing? | 20:27 |
ckotil | are the tests desinged to be independent of the db? | 20:27 |
+perlDreamer | somewhat independent | 20:28 |
ckotil | nah, there are more that fail. | 20:28 |
+perlDreamer | but as you can see, there's at least two places where it makes bad assumptions | 20:28 |
ckotil | right. | 20:28 |
ckotil | ill capture the out put and past. | 20:29 |
ckotil | e | 20:29 |
ckotil | how's this for an RFE? The ability to move assets between version tags. | 20:32 |
@preaction | it's already possible | 20:33 |
+perlDreamer | I think that's already possible | 20:33 |
ckotil | ah, nice. | 20:33 |
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@preaction | Haarg: done. sorry it took so long (tests were failing). could you re-run your tests? some unrelated tests were failing and i can't figure out why | 20:43 |
@Haarg | which ones? | 20:44 |
@preaction | let me pastebin. it's a whole bunch | 20:48 |
@preaction | http://webgui.pastebin.com/m1edf5b08 | 20:49 |
@preaction | assetExportHtml.t has always failed on my system | 20:49 |
@preaction | Asset_diagnose.t was a problem with a custom asset i have in my SVN repo | 20:49 |
@preaction | and there are two new tests I'm building, but the rest are unknown status | 20:50 |
@Haarg | i don't get those failures here on a clean database | 20:51 |
@Haarg | at least, not most of them | 20:51 |
@preaction | i'll reset once more and try again | 20:52 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: doug * r10704 /WebGUI/lib/WebGUI/AssetVersioning.pm: fix bug with packed extra head tags | 20:52 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: doug * r10705 /WebGUI/lib/WebGUI/Asset/Snippet.pm: fix regeneration of packed snippet | 20:52 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: doug * r10706 /WebGUI/lib/WebGUI/Asset.pm: fix default value for packed head tags. too dangerous to make default to on right now | 20:52 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: doug * r10707 /WebGUI/ (5 files in 4 dirs): template attachments now work with packages. head_attachments and body_attachments are now documented | 20:52 |
@preaction | Haarg, perlDreamer are there any of these failing tests you haven't fixed yet? | 21:10 |
@preaction | all the macro tests are failing because the packing isn't happening anymore :p | 21:13 |
ckotil | the full test. http://webgui.pastebin.com/m51541a09 | 21:15 |
@Haarg | aside from macro tests, the only failure i see is t/Asset/Sku.t | 21:16 |
@preaction | which is a problem with the test, it needs to set isShippingRequired as weill as shipsSeperately | 21:16 |
@preaction | i'm fixing the macro tests right now | 21:16 |
@preaction | Haarg: tests should be fixed now | 21:26 |
@Haarg | cool, thanks | 21:26 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: doug * r10708 /WebGUI/t/ (9 files in 2 dirs): fixed tests | 21:47 |
@Haarg | seems the code editor is even more broken in firefox 3.5 | 22:33 |
ckotil | I couldnt resize the window :/ | 22:39 |
ckotil | but i really like how it highlights stuff | 22:39 |
+perlDreamer | I think it's time to get rid of the code editor | 22:46 |
+perlDreamer | it's fragile | 22:46 |
+perlDreamer | I love what it _could_ do, but what it actually does is heartbreaking | 22:46 |
@preaction | i'm willing to agree, until i can fork it and make it actually work | 22:46 |
+perlDreamer | no need to fork it, just send the guy a patch | 22:49 |
+perlDreamer | on whatever browsers he has, it probably works fine | 22:49 |
+perlDreamer | but how can 1 guy cover everything out there, on every platform? | 22:49 |
+perlDreamer | I'm on the soapbox again, aren't I? Sorry about that | 23:00 |
@preaction | no, but then we should keep it and report bugs against it, optionally providing patches | 23:06 |
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+perlDreamer | yay, I can make requests to the USPS! | 23:34 |
+perlDreamer | Unfortunately, the USPS hates my request :( | 23:34 |
@preaction | how dare they? | 23:35 |
+perlDreamer | well, when the URL looks like: http://production.shippingapis.com/ShippingAPI.dll | 23:37 |
+perlDreamer | it just doesn't bode well | 23:37 |
ckotil | there are some odd url extensions out there | 23:39 |
+perlDreamer | ah, it's probably a problem on my end | 23:43 |
+perlDreamer | I just got off the phone with them, and they're cool with high volume automated tests | 23:44 |
+perlDreamer | so I'll figure out what's up | 23:44 |
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+perlDreamer | yeah, my bad. GET vs POST request | 23:49 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: hao * r10709 /WebGUI/docs/changelog/7.x.x.txt: Oops, forgot to rfe #9998 in changelog. | 23:52 |
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+perlDreamer | bopbop's back! | 00:18 |
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@preaction | you scared her away! | 00:27 |
@preaction | question: if the collab's default sort order is desc, when I as a user click on a column header, would i expect that column to sort descending or ascending? | 00:27 |
@preaction | so if "unsorted" it's doing a descending sort, when i sorted it, would i expect ascending? | 00:27 |
@preaction | say i click on "title" column, the first time, unless it's already sorted by "title", i would want it sorted ascending, right? | 00:28 |
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+perlDreamer | from a (top) to z (bottom) | 00:46 |
+perlDreamer | that's what I would expect | 00:46 |
@preaction | that's not what is happening | 00:46 |
@preaction | on another note: i'm writing tests for the Collab system so I can refactor it! | 00:46 |
@preaction | yay! | 00:46 |
+perlDreamer | call a medic | 00:47 |
+perlDreamer | I think I'm having a heart attack | 00:48 |
+perlDreamer | Martha, I'm comin' to see ya, baby! | 00:48 |
@preaction | i've already found about 20 lines of useless code | 00:48 |
@preaction | uh.. how do i sort by rating? is it karmaRank? wtf? | 00:50 |
@preaction | rating is not one of the allowed configurable sortBy options, BUT you can sort by it using the form for some reason... | 00:50 |
+perlDreamer | danger, preaction. Working in the CS is known to induce fits of rage and frothing at the mouth. | 00:53 |
@preaction | yeah, imma gather up a list of all the crap so i can discuss it with people to make sure we're Doing The Right Thing | 00:54 |
+perlDreamer | is start from scratch on the list? | 00:54 |
@preaction | i think the CS is salvagable | 00:55 |
@preaction | which is why i'm building tests and refactoring | 00:55 |
@preaction | well, the real reason is I need to refactor to fix a problem with a subclass, but still | 00:56 |
+perlDreamer | we'll all benefit from the refactor, and the tests. | 01:07 |
+perlDreamer | one thing about the sorting, I think that's actually a RFE'ed feature. | 01:07 |
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+perlDreamer | crud, scared her away, too | 01:16 |
+perlDreamer | what's wrong with us, preaction? | 01:16 |
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+perlDreamer | I will never, ever start a project without branching for version control again | 01:54 |
+perlDreamer | I will never, ever, start a project without branching for version control again | 01:54 |
+perlDreamer | I will never, ever, start a project without branching for version control again. | 01:55 |
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+perlDreamer | bopbop, something to file away for writing about Account modules | 02:07 |
+perlDreamer | the Contributions page only shows unarchived contributions | 02:07 |
+perlDreamer | I did a search for a user by username, which gave me a whole list of assets | 02:08 |
+perlDreamer | then I clicked on his name to view his profile and contributions, and it was empty | 02:08 |
@preaction | git can work with svn repos, right? | 02:25 |
@preaction | so i can create a git repo of my svn repo and clone that and then commit only what i need? | 02:25 |
@preaction | perlDreamer: re: the attachment order in collab systems: Doesn't the Story Manager allow you to order attachments? | 02:26 |
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perlDreamer1 | yup, git can work on SVN repos | 02:35 |
perlDreamer1 | Haarg and patspam both know how to connect the two. | 02:43 |
+patspam | git-svn is your friend | 02:44 |
* perlDreamer1 does not like the 50 character limit on git commit messages | 02:46 |
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+perlDreamer | dinner time, hope to be back later | 03:29 |
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CIA-23 | WebGUI: patspam * r10710 /WebGUI/ (6 files in 4 dirs): (log message trimmed) | 11:22 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: Fixed Survey's handling of multi-answer questions (e.g. maxAnswers != 1) | 11:22 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: Now stores all supplied answers to multi-answer question as arrayref | 11:22 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: Variable [[var]] text replacement converts to comma-separated list | 11:22 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: Expression Engine's value() returns appropriate value depending on context | 11:22 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: Expression Engine's score() does sum of multi-answers, as you would expect | 11:22 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: Updated related i18n & hover-help, and tests | 11:22 |
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@Haarg | patspam, if there's any api enhancements i could make to wgdev to help with your padre plugin let me know. | 11:34 |
@Haarg | i can't get padre itself to install at this point | 11:34 |
+patspam | thanks Haarg! | 11:37 |
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CIA-23 | WebGUI: martin * r10711 /WebGUI/ (7 files in 6 dirs): Tax details are now stored with the transaction items they belong to. | 13:26 |
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finiteset | is webgui better than Joomla ? what are WebGUI's advantages? | 16:50 |
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CIA-23 | WebGUI: martin * r10712 /WebGUI/ (5 files in 4 dirs): Added the methods for the pluggable tax system that add templ vars to the cart and cart items. | 17:07 |
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CIA-23 | WebGUI: jt * r10713 /WebGUI/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Added more information output to EMS record importer. | 17:32 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: jt * r10714 /WebGUI/ (docs/changelog/7.x.x.txt lib/WebGUI/Asset/Wobject/Search.pm): Fixed a search results display error with synopsis. | 17:32 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: jt * r10715 /branch/WebGUI_7.6/ (docs/changelog/7.x.x.txt lib/WebGUI/Asset/Wobject/Search.pm): Fixed a search results display error with synopsis. | 17:32 |
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+perlDreamer | morning, folks | 17:52 |
+MrHairgrease | hey pd! | 17:53 |
SDuensin | Hey gang. Figured I'd poke in and prove I'm still alive. | 17:57 |
+MrHairgrease | SDuensin: I don't buy it | 18:02 |
SDuensin | :-P | 18:02 |
+MrHairgrease | everybody knows you cannot trust prove delivered over the internet | 18:02 |
SDuensin | I even have a new WebGUI site explaining my disappearance! http://www.getrosie.com | 18:03 |
+perlDreamer | SDuensin, unless it runs WebGUI, it's not that interesting :P | 18:06 |
+perlDreamer | wait a sec, the _site_ runs WebGUI. | 18:08 |
+perlDreamer | but I've seen this someplace else | 18:08 |
SDuensin | That's a standard development kit. I'm working on making our hardware better. Our software is already better than PogoPlug. :-D | 18:09 |
+perlDreamer | wait a sec, you're doing the hardware, too? | 18:16 |
+perlDreamer | SDuensin, you're a hardware hacker! | 18:16 |
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SDuensin | perlDreamer - Uh, kinda. More like I know people who are. :-) | 18:18 |
SDuensin | (But I have built an array of odd accessories for PCs over the years.) | 18:18 |
+MrHairgrease | why do you caal the thing rosie? | 18:19 |
SDuensin | Why not? :-) | 18:19 |
SDuensin | Actually, we asked around quite a bit and most people liked it. Go figure. | 18:20 |
+MrHairgrease | If it'scool you should prolly call it Martin | 18:20 |
+MrHairgrease | just my 2 ct | 18:20 |
SDuensin | :-) | 18:21 |
SDuensin | I lobbied for "Bob" just to be silly. | 18:21 |
+perlDreamer | How about Murray? | 18:21 |
+perlDreamer | He's a curmudgeonly old man with awesome hair styling, but he's very technically savvy | 18:21 |
+MrHairgrease | that would be good too | 18:22 |
SDuensin | Part of the requirement was that whatever the name ended up being, it can't scare your parents. :-) | 18:22 |
+MrHairgrease | hehe | 18:22 |
+MrHairgrease | that's one cool word perldreamer | 18:22 |
+MrHairgrease | i had to look it up | 18:22 |
SDuensin | hehe | 18:23 |
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CIA-23 | WebGUI: jt * r10716 /WebGUI/ (docs/changelog/7.x.x.txt lib/WebGUI/Form/Codearea.pm): | 18:59 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: - Fixed a load problem with Code Editor by making user toggle it on. This is | 18:59 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: better than normal anyway since many users appear not to want to use the | 18:59 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: editor in most cases. | 18:59 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: jt * r10717 /branch/WebGUI_7.6/ (lib/WebGUI/Form/Codearea.pm docs/changelog/7.x.x.txt): | 18:59 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: - Fixed a load problem with Code Editor by making user toggle it on. This is | 18:59 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: better than normal anyway since many users appear not to want to use the | 18:59 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: editor in most cases. | 18:59 |
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+perlDreamer | Chuck Norris saves a bakers: http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/story/0%2C23739%2C25441767-5013016%2C00.html | 19:36 |
+perlDreamer | bakery | 19:36 |
+perlDreamer | hey, all. Which year was the first WUC? | 19:45 |
+perlDreamer | was it 2004, or 2005? | 19:45 |
@bopbop | Yeah SwiftySite!! | 19:49 |
+perlDreamer | isn't that awesome?!! | 19:49 |
@bopbop | very cool | 19:49 |
+perlDreamer | bummer that LTR_bob isn't still in channel for some well earned kudos | 19:50 |
@bopbop | no kidding | 19:50 |
@bopbop | we'll kudo him later | 19:50 |
@preaction | this swiftysite designer thing is amazing | 20:11 |
@preaction | i mean, i don't understand dutch, but it works great | 20:11 |
@preaction | http://www.alphamegahosting.com/swiftysitedesigner/swiftysitedesigner.html | 20:11 |
ckotil | wow! this is awsome | 20:15 |
@bopbop | they're presenting on swiftysite at the wuc too, aren't they? | 20:18 |
@bopbop | you should go, preaction- see how it's done | 20:18 |
@preaction | i was there last year when they demoed the first rev, but this version is leaps and bounds | 20:18 |
@preaction | and i'll be there i suspect, i get to just hang around and be mostly useless | 20:18 |
@preaction | schmoozing and boozing | 20:19 |
@bopbop | it has its advantages | 20:19 |
@preaction | yeah, i get to see presentations instead of worrying about my own ;) | 20:19 |
@bopbop | much more fun | 20:20 |
@bopbop | you have to hang out in my session, in case someone shows up | 20:20 |
@bopbop | and has template questions | 20:20 |
+perlDreamer | if he's not there, I will be | 20:21 |
@bopbop | cool | 20:21 |
@bopbop | and thx | 20:21 |
@bopbop | :) | 20:21 |
@preaction | oh, the clinic, yeah that's one of the main reasons i'll be there | 20:21 |
@preaction | which means i'll miss the presentation on "The Swiftysite Technique" :'( | 20:22 |
+perlDreamer | who is this guy talking about testing? | 20:22 |
@preaction | Pluton is a dutch company | 20:22 |
@preaction | i think it's one of Synq's | 20:22 |
ckotil | i wonder if google translate would work on swifty design | 20:23 |
+perlDreamer | I'd like to attend, but I'm talking about the Story Manager at the same time | 20:23 |
@bopbop | I'm excited to see the story manager | 20:23 |
@bopbop | which means I'll be on hand to grill you w/ questions | 20:23 |
+perlDreamer | you don't have to wait until the WUC to do that | 20:24 |
@bopbop | true | 20:24 |
@bopbop | actually, you'll likely hear from me before then since I'll be trying to wrap up some more books by wuc time | 20:24 |
+perlDreamer | not a problem | 20:27 |
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@preaction | i dunno about google translate, but i might have to talk to their group about the i18n.js we have | 20:43 |
ckotil | worth a shot | 20:44 |
ckotil | then comes the swifty design asset | 20:44 |
+perlDreamer | preaction, have you blogged about that yet? | 20:52 |
+perlDreamer | I don't think anyone except a handful of people know about it yet. | 20:52 |
+perlDreamer | actually, maybe I should WNN it | 20:53 |
@preaction | no i haven't, it's on the docket as my next one | 20:53 |
@preaction | so sometime in the next week or two | 20:53 |
@preaction | then when i finally get the Map out i can blog about how the google maps API sucks | 20:53 |
+perlDreamer | I'll tease it, then | 20:53 |
+perlDreamer | unless you rather I not mention it all until after your post? | 20:54 |
@preaction | go ahead, it's in there | 20:55 |
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+perlDreamer | anyone going to see Star Trek today? | 21:48 |
@preaction | mememememememe | 21:49 |
+perlDreamer | From all the non-spoiler reviews, it's going to be good | 21:53 |
* perlDreamer heads off for a short lunch | 21:53 |
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@preaction | perlDreamer: can i ask you a quick question about Devel::Cover? what does the A, B, C and "dec" mean in the HTML output? | 22:46 |
@preaction | i want to get 100% coverage on the collab tests before i try to refactor, in case i screw something up | 22:47 |
+perlDreamer | A, B, C and dec? | 22:50 |
+perlDreamer | it's a logic table | 22:50 |
+perlDreamer | A, B, and C are the various options | 22:50 |
+perlDreamer | but it will also list what they are | 22:50 |
+perlDreamer | does that help, preaction? | 22:50 |
@preaction | $self->session->form->process('sortBy') and $self->session->form->process('func') ne 'editSave' <- so in this, A is the first part, B is the second | 22:51 |
+perlDreamer | right | 22:51 |
+perlDreamer | not sure about dec | 22:51 |
@preaction | and the logic table says that i need 3 paths through it, when both are false, when A is false and B is true, and when A is true | 22:51 |
@preaction | since when A is true, it doesn't matter what the other ones are | 22:52 |
+perlDreamer | not quite | 22:52 |
+perlDreamer | B doesn't matter if A if false | 22:52 |
+perlDreamer | since and shortcircuits | 22:52 |
@preaction | okay, now i see | 22:53 |
+perlDreamer | so for a simple 2 condition AND, you have to check !A AND !B, !A AND B, A AND !B, and A AND B | 22:53 |
@preaction | the X under B means "not checked because A is already false" | 22:53 |
+perlDreamer | right | 22:53 |
@preaction | "dec" seems to be the total value of the expression | 22:53 |
+perlDreamer | maybe it's short for "decision"? | 22:54 |
@preaction | that's what i'm thinking | 22:54 |
+perlDreamer | it will take a very long time to cover all the CS at 100% | 22:54 |
@preaction | don't want all of it, just this sub | 22:54 |
+perlDreamer | cool | 22:54 |
* perlDreamer is going to hit the showers, then head to the movie | 22:55 |
+perlDreamer | I'll check back if you have more questions | 22:55 |
@preaction | the problem is i think i need to refactor the sub in order to get some unreachable decisions | 22:55 |
@preaction | or rather, decisions that no longer apply, but may still break things if removed :p | 22:55 |
+perlDreamer | then you have to test in a larger context | 22:55 |
+perlDreamer | more than just the sub | 22:55 |
@preaction | i think removing these lines will only break people who were migrating from 6.x or earlier | 22:56 |
@preaction | since it used to be properties could be undefined, and there was no default value | 22:56 |
@preaction | anyway, have fun at the movie | 22:56 |
+perlDreamer | so this would allow them to pass additional values for sorting in the URL as a query param? | 22:56 |
+perlDreamer | things that aren't specified in the asset property? | 22:57 |
@preaction | i'm talking before CS was an asset, back when it was USS | 22:57 |
+perlDreamer | right | 22:57 |
@preaction | so there may be assets out there that do not have values for certain properties, whereas today no property goes unfilled (thanks to defaultValue and new behavior of update()) | 22:58 |
@preaction | that's easily remedied with an upgrade script, of course | 22:58 |
+perlDreamer | but if you change that behavior, it needs to go through the RFE loop? | 22:59 |
+perlDreamer | which lines are you talking about? | 22:59 |
+perlDreamer | near the 980's? | 23:00 |
@preaction | 997 and 998 | 23:00 |
@preaction | $sortBy ||= 'assetData.revisionDate' | 23:00 |
@preaction | when that's the defaultValue up in the definition | 23:00 |
@preaction | there should be no reason it reaches that point without a value | 23:00 |
+perlDreamer | I see, unless the asset doesn't have that property set | 23:01 |
@preaction | right | 23:01 |
@preaction | which was possible before, but no longer | 23:02 |
+perlDreamer | in that case, I'd do what you were talking about earlier | 23:02 |
+perlDreamer | and put something into the upgrade script, and kill those lines | 23:02 |
@preaction | upgrade? or test for it? | 23:02 |
@preaction | i think i should test for it for now | 23:02 |
@preaction | change as little as possible | 23:03 |
@preaction | (i know, i just changed my mind) | 23:03 |
+perlDreamer | it doesn't hurt to have it there. In fact, you could merge it into the statement above | 23:03 |
@preaction | but my mind is little ;) | 23:03 |
@preaction | that too | 23:03 |
+perlDreamer | it's easier to get 100% coverage on OR, since a true value cascades | 23:03 |
* perlDreamer is outta here | 23:03 |
* perlDreamer is back for a bit | 23:25 |
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@preaction | working with Devel::Cover makes testing so much more fun and easy | 23:43 |
@preaction | no guessing "am i testing this thoroughly?" | 23:44 |
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+patspam | Haarg: ping | 06:15 |
@Haarg | ? | 06:15 |
+patspam | heya! | 06:15 |
+patspam | the main thing at the moment with wgd padre plugin.. | 06:15 |
+patspam | is that i am running padre under one perl (my system perl, which is threaded), and wgd under wre perl | 06:16 |
+patspam | meaning that i can only access wgd as if it were a binary (/data/wre/prereqs/bin/perl /data/wre/prereqs/bin/wgd <cmd> <options>) | 06:16 |
@Haarg | hmm | 06:17 |
+patspam | which is obviously a lot less powerful than if i could access wgd as a perl module | 06:17 |
@Haarg | locally, i have wgd and anything else command line using a perl i compiled myself | 06:18 |
@Haarg | but apache still runs using the wre | 06:18 |
+patspam | so you're adding /data/WebGUI/lib to your custom perl lib includes? | 06:19 |
@Haarg | yeah, it's in PERL5LIB | 06:19 |
+patspam | from memory you would have also had to do something when installing DBI::mysql to let it know about wre's mysql? or not? | 06:20 |
+patspam | can't remember why i think that, but a bell in my head was ringing.. | 06:21 |
@Haarg | well, the only real problem mysql is that if the hostname is localhost it tries to connect with the socket file | 06:21 |
@Haarg | i just have it configured as 127.0.0.1 so it avoids that magic and uses tcp like you would expect | 06:21 |
+patspam | ah beautiful | 06:21 |
@Haarg | alternatively, you may be able to compile DBI::mysql against the wre's mysql libraries | 06:22 |
@Haarg | but i haven't done that | 06:22 |
@Haarg | i haven't worked extensively on some of the commands, import/export would likely work better that edit if you continue using it as a binary though | 06:22 |
@Haarg | the main problem i would see with a binary, especially if you get into something like an asset tree browser, would be speed | 06:23 |
@Haarg | loading all those libraries takes a long time if you have to do it multiple times | 06:23 |
+patspam | yeah good point | 06:24 |
@Haarg | it's unfortunate that we can't build threading into the wre, but unless we had a separate developer build i don't think that would be reasonable | 06:24 |
+patspam | that's ok, it sounds like the separate perl approach will work well | 06:25 |
+patspam | i was wondering though, xs modules are supposed to be binary incompatible between threaded/non-threaded perl | 06:26 |
+patspam | ah that's ok through, because all the xs modules are in the wre, not in /data/WebGUI/lib | 06:26 |
@Haarg | yeah | 06:26 |
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+patspam | heh damn, too exciting, i want to run off and play with it but have to prioritise $work :( | 06:34 |
@Haarg | heh | 06:36 |
@Haarg | i finally got wxWidgets to install properly so i do have padre working now | 06:36 |
@Haarg | i'll be happy to test out stuff | 06:37 |
+patspam | awesome! | 06:41 |
+patspam | i just switched over from Eclipse + EPIC to Padre as my IDE | 06:41 |
+patspam | it still has plenty of rough edges but enough cool stuff to be worthwhile | 06:42 |
+patspam | and it's improving at a ridiculous rate | 06:42 |
+patspam | when i get a chance i'll set up a git repo for the plugin so that you can play with it | 06:42 |
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CIA-23 | webgui: Patrick Donelan flux * re46e2c3 / lib/WebGUI/Asset/Wobject/Survey.pm : Improved survey www_exportStructure - http://bit.ly/1aqe59 | 09:05 |
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CIA-23 | webgui: Patrick Donelan flux * rf279bcd / lib/WebGUI/Asset/Wobject/Survey.pm : Correction to previous commit - http://bit.ly/Yq3jz | 09:15 |
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CIA-23 | WebGUI: patspam * r10720 /WebGUI/ (5 files in 4 dirs): | 11:10 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: Survey Expression Engine validation++ | 11:10 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: Survey Expression Engine now detects invalid variable names passed to value(), score(), etc.. | 11:10 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: Also now detects situations where you have jump targets/expressions defined at multiple levels - thus causing precedence rules to kick in (normally this indicates a mistake) | 11:10 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: Fixed Survey edit page bug where TextEditor would not move after gotoExpression textarea resize caused items to move | 11:10 |
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daviddelikat | any body else notice strange behaviour of the rich text editor in newer versions of WG? | 03:27 |
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elnino | does the 7.5 shop book apply to the 7.6 shop? or is the 7.6 entirely different? | 03:45 |
elnino | oh nevermind, it says 7.5 and higher, so then the question is, is 7.7 going to change the shop drasticlly? | 03:46 |
daviddelikat | hi elnino | 03:46 |
elnino | howdy! | 03:46 |
daviddelikat | sorry i can't help with your question | 03:46 |
elnino | that's ok. it's a sunday, I don't expect much activity on weekends. | 03:47 |
@preaction | elnino: no. shop is API frozen now | 03:47 |
daviddelikat | itys usually very quiet here on weekends | 03:47 |
elnino | ok. thanks for the quick response preaction. | 03:47 |
elnino | Now I wish I could ask if there is a discount if I buy two books. | 03:48 |
elnino | I dont' think anyone here would know. there isn't anything on the website. | 03:48 |
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elnino | hi dionak! haven't seen you for a while. | 03:49 |
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CIA-23 | WebGUI: patspam * r10721 /WebGUI/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Fixed Survey "copy" button on Edit Survey page | 08:36 |
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SynQ | heu joeri | 09:52 |
dapperedodo | goodmorning | 10:07 |
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CIA-23 | WebGUI: patspam * r10722 /WebGUI/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Survey Expressions can now access verbatim values | 10:20 |
+patspam | preaction: you awake? | 10:31 |
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CIA-23 | WebGUI: patspam * r10723 /WebGUI/lib/WebGUI/Asset/Wobject/Survey/ExpressionEngine.pm: Fixed Survey expression validation handling of verbatim values | 11:50 |
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ryuu_ro | hi all, is there any chance that one of you guys has a compiled WRE for CentOs 64bit? | 12:10 |
ryuu_ro | and are willing to share that with me :) | 12:10 |
+bartjol | willing? no ;) | 12:45 |
+bartjol | have not either | 12:45 |
+bartjol | sorry | 12:53 |
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ryuu_ro | bartjol: thanks for nothing then ;) | 12:55 |
+bartjol | I'm always the guy to get useless answers from :) | 12:55 |
ryuu_ro | it's almost lunchtime | 12:56 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: patspam * r10724 /WebGUI/ (4 files in 4 dirs): | 14:04 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: Added Survey Visualization | 14:04 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: Does nothing if GraphViz module not installed (the default until wre 0.9.3) | 14:04 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: Shows sections and questions as nodes, answers as edges. | 14:04 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: Branch targets also show up as edges | 14:04 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: Branch expression edges are currently disabled | 14:04 |
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CIA-23 | WebGUI: patspam * r10725 /WebGUI/ (t/Asset/Wobject/Survey.t lib/WebGUI/Asset/Wobject/Survey.pm): Added some tests for Survey visualization | 14:39 |
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+perlDreamer | plainhao, there's a typo in my user/address book bug. It should say 7.6 and 7.7 | 19:18 |
@plainhao | ok, thanks | 19:19 |
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dionak | hey, elnino! | 19:27 |
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pvanthony | where can wre ver 0.9.2 be downloaded? | 20:35 |
+perlDreamer | pvanthony, howdy. It seems to have been built, but not released yet. | 20:40 |
+perlDreamer | I would make a follow-up post to this forum thread: http://www.plainblack.com/webgui/dev/discuss/wre-0.9.2- | 20:40 |
pvanthony | Hello perlDreamer | 20:40 |
pvanthony | yes I did notice that 0.9.2 is with the VM version | 20:41 |
+perlDreamer | I'm guessing that it got lost in a wave of business and maybe a conference trip. | 20:41 |
pvanthony | ok. | 20:44 |
pvanthony | in the forum post, it states ver 0.9.3 | 20:44 |
pvanthony | maybe they would release that version. | 20:44 |
+perlDreamer | right. At the date that post was made, if anything was committed after that date (April 10, 2009), it would come out on 0.9.3 | 20:45 |
+perlDreamer | but 0.9.2 is supposed to be the current one | 20:45 |
pvanthony | ok. | 20:46 |
pvanthony | in the latest stable release, it states that it fixed email sending | 20:46 |
pvanthony | is this the issue I was having? | 20:47 |
+perlDreamer | is that the WebGUI 7.6 release? | 20:47 |
+perlDreamer | or the WRE? | 20:47 |
pvanthony | in 7.6.22 | 20:47 |
pvanthony | WebGUI | 20:47 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: doug * r10726 /WebGUI/t/Asset/Wobject/Collaboration/getThreads.t: added tests for getThreadsPaginator in Collaboration to allow future refactoring | 20:48 |
+perlDreamer | if that's bug 10210, then probably not | 20:48 |
+perlDreamer | that was a bad message-Id generation | 20:48 |
+perlDreamer | not workflow related at all, unfortunately | 20:48 |
@preaction | CIA-23: thanks, i know i'm awesome ;) | 20:49 |
pvanthony | noted. | 20:49 |
+perlDreamer | preaction++ | 20:49 |
+perlDreamer | writing tests. I always know you had it in you | 20:49 |
@preaction | there are two other "getThreads" methods that need testing yet, then we'll be good | 20:49 |
@preaction | i write tests when i'm given enough time! blame the managers (of which i am one) | 20:49 |
+perlDreamer | I know, just busting your chops | 20:50 |
@preaction | consider them busted ;_; | 20:50 |
+perlDreamer | In that base, it's time to start jumping through hoops for the USPS | 20:51 |
+perlDreamer | s/base/case | 20:52 |
* preaction breaks out his whip and fire-ring | 20:52 |
+perlDreamer | they require you to run several XML queries through their testing server | 20:52 |
+perlDreamer | even if the testing server doesn't support the service that you want to use | 20:52 |
@preaction | some days i wonder if webgui just gets lucky when it comes to not doing stupid things | 20:53 |
+perlDreamer | you mean it's not due to our awesome coding prowess? | 20:54 |
@preaction | we are awesome yes, but in any development ecosystem, there has to be some weaker "prey" animals | 20:56 |
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metanil | any ideas? --> Couldn't execute operation : WebGUI::Operation::Spectre::www_spectreStatus. Root cause: Undefined subroutine &WebGUI::Operation::Spectre::from_json | 20:56 |
@preaction | metanil: what version you running, because that's a bug | 20:57 |
@preaction | or what version of JSON you have? | 20:57 |
@preaction | we shouldn't be using from_json anymore | 20:57 |
metanil | preaction: i guess pretty old. | 20:57 |
@preaction | there's a problem running old webgui with new JSON.pm | 20:57 |
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metanil | preaction: WebGUI 7.4.17-stable | 20:58 |
@preaction | and that would be one of the versions affected | 20:58 |
@preaction | anything pre 7.5 stable would be effected | 20:58 |
@preaction | er... s/\be/a/ | 20:58 |
metanil | preaction: I just recently noticed this problem | 20:59 |
metanil | because my spectre is not working properly. | 20:59 |
@preaction | did you upgrade your WRE or your perl modules? | 21:00 |
metanil | preaction: i can't remember.. but i think i did.. | 21:00 |
@preaction | and as i said, new JSON.pm broke API with old versions | 21:01 |
@preaction | so you either need to update webgui or downgrade JSON.pm | 21:01 |
metanil | its WRE 0.8.1 | 21:01 |
metanil | preaction: is that the reason that my queued mail is not getting send? | 21:02 |
@preaction | yes | 21:02 |
metanil | preaction: but the commit is also done by Spectre, but i guess its working fine. | 21:02 |
@preaction | because commit is not a scheduled task. scheduled tasks are sent to spectre using a JSON object | 21:03 |
metanil | what about this one--> WebGUI::Workflow::Activity::CommitVersionTag? | 21:03 |
@preaction | that's the activity that commits a version tag | 21:04 |
+perlDreamer | it's run in realtime when you do a commit | 21:05 |
+perlDreamer | if it can't complete in 55 seconds, then it dispatches it to Spectre | 21:05 |
@preaction | not in 7.4. it's sent directly to spectre | 21:05 |
metanil | perlDreamer: gotcha! | 21:06 |
+perlDreamer | oh, that's right. | 21:06 |
metanil | preaction: really? | 21:06 |
@preaction | spectre gets the scheduled tasks via JSON. then it creates instances when it needs to, which get run. the problem is that spectre is not creating instances of scheduled tasks because it can't parse the JSON | 21:07 |
@preaction | so now we're back to my original comment: Upgrade WebGUI or downgrade JSON.pm | 21:07 |
metanil | i'll try to downgrade the WRE for not and see what happens. | 21:07 |
metanil | err.. s/not/now/ | 21:07 |
metanil | preaction: is it just possible to downgrade JSON thing | 21:10 |
@preaction | as i've been saying, yes | 21:11 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: translation * r10727 /translations/Arabic/ (188 files in 2 dirs): Update from translation server | 21:11 |
@preaction | huh, arabic translation is getting an update | 21:11 |
@preaction | it's now beating Spanish for 3rd place | 21:12 |
+perlDreamer | it's been ahead of Spanish always | 21:14 |
+perlDreamer | by like 0.2% | 21:14 |
+perlDreamer | if you look at that commit, it just reformats the perl and adds the use utf8 line to each file. | 21:16 |
@preaction | aww | 21:19 |
+perlDreamer | according to the WNN i18n analyzer, Arabic has been at 60% since May 3rd | 21:22 |
+perlDreamer | and, quoting the recently released 3rd issue of WNN, the only language that isn't losing ground is German. | 21:23 |
+perlDreamer | oh, and French | 21:23 |
+perlDreamer | their work has just been enough to get them some gain to offset all the new i18n going into the system | 21:24 |
+perlDreamer | awesome t-shirt: http://www.topatoco.com/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=TO&Product_Code=QW-CHEATSHEET&Category_Code=QW | 21:24 |
@preaction | yeah, this is like the "everyone should know this if the world dies" t-shirt | 21:30 |
+perlDreamer | ooh, do you have a URL for that? | 21:31 |
@preaction | you're looking at it | 21:32 |
+perlDreamer | I see. I thought you meant that it reminded you of another t-shirt _like_ that one | 21:33 |
@preaction | oh, no | 21:33 |
@preaction | though there's little chemistry info, and chemistry would probably be the second most-important knowledge after health | 21:33 |
pvanthony | was trying out the beta.webgui and notice a new item in shop catogory | 21:38 |
pvanthony | thing-record | 21:38 |
pvanthony | is this fully working? | 21:39 |
pvanthony | tried to use it but could not really get it to work | 21:39 |
pvanthony | or is this still in development | 21:40 |
+perlDreamer | it should be fully working | 21:40 |
@preaction | it should work fine | 21:40 |
pvanthony | ok then I did not do it right. | 21:40 |
pvanthony | any documentation around. | 21:41 |
pvanthony | in the wiki? | 21:41 |
@preaction | not really. do you have a Thingy with a Thing or two? | 21:41 |
pvanthony | Created a thingy. Simple one flat. | 21:41 |
@preaction | but it has a Thing in it? | 21:41 |
pvanthony | then proceeded to create thing-record | 21:42 |
pvanthony | to link to the thingy | 21:42 |
pvanthony | the idea was to create only one field to be linked to the shop | 21:43 |
pvanthony | so if the customer fills that feild then and only then they will be charged. | 21:44 |
pvanthony | I was thinking to create the thingy frist then create the thingy-record to make one of the fields in the thingy payable. | 21:45 |
@preaction | create the Thingy. create the Thing inside of it that the user should be adding records to. Then create the ThingyRecord sku to allow users to add records to that Thing | 21:47 |
* perlDreamer goes running | 21:52 |
pvanthony | lets say I create a thingy called Talents | 21:53 |
pvanthony | with feilds, name and telephone | 21:53 |
pvanthony | I want to charge $10 for the telehpone feild | 21:53 |
pvanthony | so I create a thingy-record linked to talent thingy at the telephone feild. | 21:54 |
@preaction | right | 21:55 |
pvanthony | so when the customer fills in the data in the thingy form with telephone number, the cart has 10 dollars added. | 21:55 |
@preaction | no, not right. what you're doing is linking the ThingyRecord to the Thingy, and allowing them to only fill out the Telephone field at a cost | 21:55 |
@preaction | the ThingyRecord only adds records to Thingy | 21:55 |
@preaction | it doesn't modify existing ones. you can still use Thingy as-is | 21:56 |
pvanthony | what if we allow customers to fill their names for free but what to charge if they add the telephone number? | 21:58 |
@preaction | the ThingyRecord allows users who are normally unprivileged for that Thing to add records | 21:58 |
@preaction | then make a new Thing and have it link to the first Thing with names | 21:58 |
@preaction | then the user selects their name and adds a phone number | 21:58 |
@preaction | so two things, one for names, one for phone numbers. | 21:59 |
pvanthony | ok now I get it | 21:59 |
pvanthony | thingy-record can only to charges for one thingy not one feild of a thingy | 22:00 |
pvanthony | that is, do charges for one thingy not one feild of a thingy | 22:01 |
pvanthony | so if there is a form with 5 feilds that need to be charged, 5 more thingy have to be created and linked to thingy-record. | 22:02 |
@preaction | no | 22:03 |
@preaction | thingy record charges for one record in one thingy, but it tracks its records seperately | 22:03 |
pvanthony | sorry I do not get it then | 22:03 |
@preaction | it cannot charge for a record that was not created using ThingyRecord | 22:03 |
@preaction | imagine it more like a Classified Ad system | 22:04 |
@preaction | if you want to charge seperately for each field, then yes you would need to have seperate things | 22:05 |
pvanthony | ok | 22:05 |
pvanthony | plus we have to create one more thingy to link all the feilds into one form. Correct? | 22:06 |
@preaction | you could do that, or you could make an SQLReport that would combine all the fields | 22:08 |
@preaction | alternatively, you could enhance / subclass the ThingyRecord to do what you want | 22:09 |
pvanthony | what I was hoping for is to do something like this, http://www.lsvasiadirectory.com/home/normal | 22:10 |
pvanthony | if the customer fills in the part B, then he will be charged. | 22:10 |
pvanthony | each feild has a different price | 22:11 |
@preaction | you would be far better served by making this a custom Sku, using the ThingyRecord as a base | 22:11 |
pvanthony | oh no. I am not a programmer. | 22:13 |
@preaction | or, as i mentioned, making it so each field that a user is allowed to enter has a price (so that the ThingyRecord could be used) | 22:13 |
@preaction | plain black (and others) does programming | 22:13 |
pvanthony | ok noted. | 22:13 |
@preaction | we could develop the feature and put it into webgui (at a cost, of course) | 22:13 |
@preaction | otherwise, if you want it free, you can submit an RFE to webgui.org/rfe and wait (whereas paying money will get you the feature right now) | 22:14 |
pvanthony | understand | 22:14 |
pvanthony | thanks for explaining how to use the thingy-record | 22:15 |
@preaction | np | 22:15 |
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metanil | preaction: any ways to find the current version of JSON on the wre? | 22:43 |
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@Haarg | /data/wre/prereqs/bin/perl -mJSON -le'print JSON->VERSION' | 22:48 |
metanil | Haarg: thanks | 22:54 |
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metanil | still no luck .WebGUI 7.4.17-stable WRE 0.8.1 JSON 1.1 ---> Couldn't execute operation : WebGUI::Operation::Spectre::www_spectreStatus. Root cause: Undefined subroutine &WebGUI::Operation::Spectre::from_json | 23:00 |
@Haarg | are you certain all of your files are from 7.4.17? | 23:03 |
@Haarg | from_json is from JSON 2.0, which we switched to in 7.4.22 | 23:04 |
metanil | so you mean the Operation::Spectre.pm should not be using from_json()? | 23:05 |
@Haarg | not in 7.4.17 | 23:05 |
metanil | file /data/WebGUI/docs/changelog is 7.4.17 | 23:06 |
metanil | file /data/WebGUI/lib/WebGUI.pm is also 7.4.17 | 23:07 |
@Haarg | what are you doing to see those errors? | 23:11 |
metanil | i went to admin console->settings->Spectre | 23:11 |
metanil | (moreover, my queued mail is also not being send) | 23:12 |
@Haarg | and that showed up in the error log? | 23:12 |
@Haarg | can you pastebin /data/WebGUI/lib/WebGUI/Operation/Spectre.pm ? | 23:12 |
metanil | yes and that error showed up in webgui log | 23:13 |
metanil | Haarg: http://webgui.pastebin.com/d12eea067 | 23:15 |
@Haarg | that file is not from 7.4.17 | 23:16 |
@Haarg | have you made any code modifications? | 23:17 |
metanil | oops!! .. (how can it be) | 23:17 |
metanil | yes i did lots of code modificatioh | 23:17 |
@Haarg | hmm | 23:17 |
@Haarg | you might want to do a diff with stock 7.4.17 | 23:18 |
metanil | its not like i haven't played with newer version.. but this one suppose to be 7.4.17 | 23:18 |
@Haarg | if you can do a full diff with a stock copy of 7.4.17 that would help fixing this issue | 23:21 |
metanil | Haarg: yes i just did whole project directory comparison with the stock one, they're different | 23:21 |
metanil | :( | 23:21 |
@Haarg | pastebin? | 23:21 |
metanil | stock use jsonToObj .. my version use from_json | 23:21 |
metanil | the first file i saw is Admin.pm | 23:22 |
metanil | and same goes with Operation/Spectre.pm | 23:22 |
metanil | Haarg: http://webgui.pastebin.com/d724e4068 | 23:23 |
@Haarg | i mean, can you pastebin a full diff of the dirs? | 23:23 |
metanil | everything is same. except from_json and to_json | 23:23 |
metanil | i used meld to compare them | 23:24 |
@Haarg | it might be possible to upgrade to json 2.0, but we were resolving bugs with that upgrade for a while afterward, so unless you want to upgrade to the latest 7.4, it might be easier to change them back to be compatible with json 1.x | 23:27 |
metanil | Haarg: sorry my bad.. now i remember.. last time (may be 7-8 month ago), i tried to use latest version of WRE for old WebGUI and the first place it didn't work is due to JSON call. Then i replace all with the newer call. But somehow again, it didn't work, so i reverted back to old wre. however, i pressume to revert the webgui.. :( (damn me!) | 23:30 |
metanil | err... however, i pressume i forgot to revert the webgui | 23:30 |
metanil | the current version is still 7.4.17 except the call to json is replace by the newer call. | 23:31 |
metanil | i guess should be ok, if replace the newer call with the older one (like jsonToObj) | 23:32 |
@Haarg | yeah, that should be ok | 23:32 |
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+perlDreamer | preaction: test #8 is failing on the getThreads test | 00:07 |
+perlDreamer | got: undef, expected; 'desc' | 00:07 |
@preaction | okay, that's trying to get the scratch value, which should be filled in by getThreadsPaginator | 00:08 |
@preaction | ("should" being a word to describe current behavior, i hope to excise that stupidity) | 00:08 |
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+perlDreamer | gotcha | 00:08 |
+perlDreamer | you know, if you fix enough things in the CS maybe the rumors of its demise will go away... | 00:09 |
@preaction | that's what i'm hoping. it is a good platform for building apps when you subclass it | 00:11 |
@preaction | but i still want the specific assets to be built, the Blog asset, the Story Manager, the Gallery, etc... | 00:11 |
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+perlDreamer | Yes! | 00:13 |
* perlDreamer wants to use the Blog asset | 00:13 |
@preaction | why can't the Story Manager be used for Blogging? is it too big? | 00:13 |
+perlDreamer | No comments | 00:13 |
+perlDreamer | No trackbacks | 00:13 |
+perlDreamer | No remote authentication | 00:13 |
@preaction | oh, API stuff | 00:14 |
+perlDreamer | yes | 00:14 |
+perlDreamer | It's just as bad as using the CS for blogging, probably worse | 00:14 |
@preaction | remote auth is a WebGUI tool, will be added in 8 (well, Auth will be rewritten with OpenID in mind) | 00:14 |
+perlDreamer | although the Story Manager is pretty light weight, all three assets only take 1772 lines, including POD, whitespace and comments | 00:15 |
@preaction | yeah that's like 1/3 of the CS | 00:15 |
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@preaction | but then, the CS should get reduced once i clean out some bitrot and some more aspects are made | 00:15 |
@preaction | if you can, perlDreamer, go over that getThreads.t test and see what behavior doesn't make sense to you. my plan is to test the CS as-is and let others make judgements over how stupid it's being | 00:16 |
+perlDreamer | I'll try to have a look later today. | 00:17 |
@preaction | no rush, there are plenty of tests left to write | 00:17 |
+perlDreamer | I guess I'm still not sure why that one test is failing. Is it failing on your dev setup as well? | 00:18 |
@preaction | no, they all passed when i committed. let me check though | 00:19 |
+perlDreamer | maybe it's some uncommitted CS code | 00:20 |
@preaction | yeah, all tests pass for me | 00:22 |
@preaction | it's also a pretty dangerous operation, checking the scratch like that. i only tested it because it's what the CS does, and i want to refactor that part out of getThreadsPaginator into a getSortBy | 00:22 |
+perlDreamer | from what I see, it's either going to set the sortBy, or the sortDir, never both | 00:24 |
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+perlDreamer | and there's a copy/paste error in the test comment for the failing test. I just committed a fix for that | 00:27 |
+perlDreamer | hm, since it's scratch, it can accumulate across calls in a valid set of requests | 00:28 |
+perlDreamer | but the scratch is cleared out just before the sortBy from form tests | 00:29 |
@preaction | yeah, that's why i try to delete it afterward when i am not testing if it should stay | 00:29 |
@preaction | oh wait, maybe i updated the CS to update both scratch no matter what | 00:29 |
+perlDreamer | :) | 00:29 |
+perlDreamer | svn diff tells all | 00:29 |
@preaction | that would be what i did | 00:29 |
@preaction | i'll commit that | 00:30 |
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+perlDreamer | Haarg has been back porting all new tests to help with 7.6 debug. We should let him know not to do that unless he modifies the test first. | 00:30 |
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@preaction | the problem i have is that getThreadsPaginator is what handles the flipping of sorting. if you use getThreadsPaginator twice in one request that contains a sortBy= form param, you get two different answers | 00:31 |
+perlDreamer | in other words, it would be nice to have getThreadyPaginator just get the paginator, and let some other method do all the form handling and mode flipping? | 00:32 |
@preaction | right, preferably view() would do that | 00:32 |
@preaction | web-facing methods should handle web data and web input | 00:32 |
+perlDreamer | sure | 00:33 |
+perlDreamer | www_view, even better | 00:33 |
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+perlDreamer | having done the hoop jumping manuever, our hero now calls the post office in an attempt to get his account upgraded | 00:34 |
+perlDreamer | bbiaw | 00:35 |
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CIA-23 | WebGUI: colin * r10728 /WebGUI/t/Asset/Wobject/Collaboration/getThreads.t: Fix a test comment. | 00:52 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: doug * r10729 /WebGUI/lib/WebGUI/Asset/Wobject/Collaboration.pm: collab now always sets sortOrder scratch, for better testing | 00:52 |
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+perlDreamer | yay! | 01:14 |
+perlDreamer | production access to the server | 01:14 |
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CIA-23 | WebGUI: ernesto * r10730 /branch/WebGUI_7.6/www/extras/editarea/edit_area/ (images/Thumbs.db plugins/test/images/Thumbs.db): Remove stray Windows' Thumbs.db files. | 03:07 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: ernesto * r10731 /WebGUI/www/extras/editarea/edit_area/ (images/Thumbs.db plugins/test/images/Thumbs.db): Remove stray Windows' Thumbs.db files. | 03:07 |
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CIA-23 | WebGUI: patspam * r10732 /WebGUI/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Made Survey date picker more i18n-generic until we support proper i18n | 03:44 |
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CIA-23 | WebGUI: patspam * r10733 /WebGUI/ (6 files in 4 dirs): | 16:04 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: Refactored Survey for more happy endings | 16:04 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: Refactored www_submitQuestions to use utility submitQuestions sub (for ease of testing) | 16:04 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: Replaced numeric flags, completedCode etc.. | 16:04 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: Added restart() and exitUrl() to the Expression Engine | 16:04 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: Added more Survey instance tests | 16:04 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: translation * r10734 /translations/Dutch/Dutch/ (16 files): Update from translation server | 16:57 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: translation * r10735 /translations/Dutch/Dutch/ (PayDriver_ITransact.pm Asset.pm WebGUI.pm): Update from translation server | 16:57 |
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SquOnk | Greetings everyone | 17:39 |
dionak | hi | 17:40 |
SquOnk | FYI, I've already packaged 7.6.22 for Debian _Sid_ and it's working fine | 17:41 |
SquOnk | I expect an sponsored upload to Debian next week | 17:41 |
SquOnk | The package can be made to work in Debian Lenny with little effort. | 17:42 |
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CIA-23 | WebGUI: translation * r10736 /translations/Dutch/Dutch/ (5 files): Update from translation server | 17:52 |
+perlmonkey2 | hmm, no perldreamer today | 18:03 |
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CIA-23 | WebGUI: yung * r10737 /WebGUI/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Compare form on Matrix default view screen is now generated from markup | 18:20 |
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+perlDreamer | cool! Somebody is translating Dutch again! | 19:16 |
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@tavisto | great news | 19:21 |
@tavisto | and it's not bart jol, the big dutch girly man? | 19:21 |
* perlDreamer doesn't know | 19:22 |
+perlDreamer | but he's not in IRC, so I'm guessing that he's breaking down walls or something | 19:22 |
@Haarg | bleh. i can't wait until we switch to template toolkit. | 21:22 |
@Haarg | every time i use html::template i hate it more | 21:22 |
@preaction | amen brother | 21:22 |
* SquOnk wishes for a switch to DBIx::Class instead | 21:38 |
SquOnk | That would make so many things easier... | 21:38 |
@preaction | SquOnk: there's a DBIx::Class::WebGUI you can use if you want | 21:39 |
@preaction | or there's also WebGUI::Crud | 21:39 |
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+perlDreamer | what's so cool about DBIx::Class? | 21:44 |
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+perlmonkey2 | ORM? | 22:49 |
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+perlDreamer | mmmmm, mango/vanilla protein shake | 23:11 |
+perlDreamer | it's not as good as pizza | 23:11 |
+perlDreamer | but don't tell my trainer that I said that | 23:11 |
@preaction | that actually sounds pretty good | 23:16 |
@preaction | but why not just increase protein in diet? | 23:16 |
@preaction | seafood++ | 23:16 |
@preaction | you're in Oregon! you get cheap seafood. unlike Wisconsin :p | 23:16 |
+perlDreamer | want me to bring you some at the WUC? | 23:18 |
+perlDreamer | rizen and I see eye to eye on seafood | 23:18 |
+perlDreamer | which means, when you order surf and turf, you pass the surf over to the wife | 23:19 |
@preaction | shrimp is like candy of the ocean! | 23:22 |
+perlDreamer | shrimp is good | 23:22 |
@preaction | or sushi! | 23:22 |
* perlDreamer always gets confused. sushi==raw fish, or vegetables? | 23:23 |
@preaction | sushi is the rice | 23:23 |
+perlDreamer | one is sushi, the other is sashimi | 23:23 |
@preaction | sashimi is raw fish over sushi rice | 23:23 |
+perlDreamer | in that case, I'm digging the sushi, but leave the fish bait off of it | 23:23 |
@preaction | maki is the "sushi" you know, with the fish and the veggies rolled up in sushi rice | 23:23 |
Chizad | Man, this sushi talk is making me hungry, and I just ate about an hour ago. | 23:25 |
Chizad | also, IIRC nigiri is the raw fish over sushi rice, and sashimi is just thin slices of raw fish. | 23:26 |
@preaction | yeah, that sounds right | 23:27 |
Chizad | Either way, they're both very tasty. :) | 23:29 |
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dionak | you guys are making me hungry | 23:42 |
@preaction | then i won't go into the details on how i made home-made tortellini last night | 23:43 |
@preaction | mmmmmmm | 23:44 |
@tavisto | preaction, you got Olive Garden to go. I saw you there | 23:44 |
@preaction | don't tell THEM that | 23:44 |
@tavisto | er... | 23:44 |
@preaction | besides, they don't make pasta from scratch either | 23:44 |
@preaction | they have MACHINES | 23:44 |
+perlDreamer | no one makes pasta without a machine | 23:45 |
dionak | oh, i thought they ordered it frozen (olive garden) | 23:45 |
+perlDreamer | we have this little hand crank one | 23:45 |
@tavisto | perlDreamer has fisher price play-doh machine | 23:46 |
@preaction | yeah, i want me one of thems hand-crank ones | 23:46 |
+perlDreamer | tavisto is jealous, cuz he got a Easy Bake oven instead | 23:47 |
@tavisto | why would I be jealous of you when I have an easy bake oven? are you insane! | 23:47 |
+perlDreamer | because I'll be cranking out the pasta long after you run out of chococake mix and pink frosting | 23:48 |
@tavisto | have fun poisoning your brain with blue play doh spaghetti... I'm making & eating chocolate cake and brownies! | 23:48 |
@tavisto | I think you'll be dead after 1 plate of play doh sketti | 23:48 |
+perlDreamer | blue is fine, it's the yellow you have to watch out for | 23:48 |
@tavisto | we'll bring some to WUC and you'll have to prove it to me | 23:49 |
+perlDreamer | I'll bring the marinara | 23:51 |
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ekennedy_ | I've got an RFE (#10253) that I've received permission to commit. I'm good with submitting the code changes via SVN, however, the change also adds a column to the DataForm table. Am I to add the code within an upgrade script to handle that or do I communicate it to someone else who does if for me? | 02:12 |
@preaction | ekennedy_: add the column within the appropriate upgrade script | 02:13 |
ekennedy_ | thanks. | 02:14 |
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+perlDreamer | we should have told him about RFE day tomorrow. | 02:31 |
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+perlDreamer | just committed the USPS shipping driver, and I'd love any feedback y'all have about it | 03:06 |
+perlDreamer | bbiaw | 03:06 |
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CIA-23 | WebGUI: colin * r10738 /WebGUI/ (10 files in 8 dirs): | 03:15 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: Add USPS Shipping Driver with tests, and i18n. | 03:15 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: Change the Ship, Cart to do exception handling when calling a shipping driver, | 03:15 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: as that's the message passing interface between the modules. | 03:15 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: Add a noFormProcess field property that is recognized by processPropertiesFromFormPost. | 03:15 |
@preaction | perlDreamer: code looks solid to me. why all the private methods instead of public methods? is there a special reason? | 03:35 |
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+perlDreamer | preaction, they aren't meant to be called by anyone but me | 04:04 |
+perlDreamer | so that's why I marked them private | 04:04 |
+perlDreamer | and thank you very much for the review | 04:05 |
@preaction | doesn't mean they couldn't be useful to someone else, in a macro perhaps? | 04:06 |
@preaction | the calculate one especially | 04:06 |
@preaction | i dunno how shipdrivers work, maybe i'm off-base | 04:06 |
+perlDreamer | (I think) everything a caller would need is ->calculate, rather than building the XML, submitting the request, and then reconciling XML data with the shippable units | 04:07 |
+perlDreamer | although, if getShippableUnits is as useful as I think it is, it will be promoted to ShipDriver | 04:08 |
+perlDreamer | since the UPS code will use it, too | 04:08 |
@preaction | good to know when trying to debug that the production server has code with bugfixes that SVN doesn't have... | 04:23 |
+perlDreamer | that's bad | 04:24 |
@preaction | yeah, little bit | 04:25 |
+perlmonkey2 | woohoo, my G1 comes in tomorrow. I bet android market wouldn't reject a Gallery app because the default template looks like a Polaroid. | 04:35 |
@preaction | i was under impression that android didn't have a central app server, or at least it's controlled by people who believe in a free market | 04:42 |
+Radix-wrk | Ahh.. you're getting a G1 eh.. not going to wait for the nicer sapphire/magic handset? :) | 04:55 |
+Radix-wrk | saw a video of samsung's new android handset in action yesterday - looks nice.. tho still lots of stuff to fix in their software it looks like | 04:56 |
+Radix-wrk | preaction: android has an app server.. and it's controlled, but not as much as the apple app market is from what I've heard - that may change of course | 04:58 |
@preaction | but i can install whatever i want on my android phone, w/o using their app server, right? | 05:06 |
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+perlDreamer | at what point does one throw caution aside and decide to publish the details of bad technical support? | 05:11 |
+perlmonkey2 | Radix-wrk: nicer? I didn't think the magic was going to be nicer | 05:14 |
+perlmonkey2 | lcd keyboard....fail | 05:14 |
+perlmonkey2 | and other than the lack of keyboard, giving it a slighter smaller lighter frame, and a marginally upgraded battery, it is the same machine. | 05:15 |
@preaction | perlDreamer: after one is finally satisfied | 05:15 |
+perlmonkey2 | preaction: yes, you can install whatever you want from your machine. | 05:15 |
+perlDreamer | I was having problems with the API docs. I told them that. I sent them the XML I was sending, and the response from their server. | 05:18 |
+perlDreamer | I called out the pages in the spec | 05:18 |
+perlDreamer | His response was " I have verified your account is active and everything on our side is up and running correctly. I would suggest contacting your 3rd party shopping cart for assistance." | 05:18 |
+perlDreamer | I AM the 3rd party shopping cart | 05:18 |
+perlDreamer | I don't know whether to email him back and try to explain | 05:21 |
+perlDreamer | or to publish this on my blog | 05:21 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: doug * r10739 /branch/WebGUI_7.6/ (docs/changelog/7.x.x.txt lib/WebGUI/AssetVersioning.pm): Improved performance for large numbers of asset instantiations | 05:22 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: doug * r10740 /WebGUI/lib/WebGUI/AssetVersioning.pm: merged 10739 | 05:22 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: patspam * r10741 /WebGUI/ (4 files in 4 dirs): Improved handling of Survey restart | 05:22 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: patspam * r10742 /WebGUI/ (5 files in 5 dirs): | 05:22 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: More Survey refactoring | 05:22 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: refactored out repetitive checking of takenCount | 05:22 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: added i18n template variables to Survey template so that user is told what happened for timeouts etc.. | 05:22 |
+perlDreamer | patspam++ for remembering the Help | 05:23 |
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ekennedy | Question: Is there a way to install an different version of Webgui in an existing wre installation? This is for test purposes so I'm not worried about hammering the exisitng databases. | 05:29 |
+perlDreamer | ekennedy, there's a couple of ways to do tht | 05:30 |
+perlDreamer | the most common way is to symlink directories to /data/WebGUI | 05:30 |
+perlDreamer | which would let you change between many versions | 05:31 |
+perlDreamer | another way is via git, which makes switching between branches quite painless | 05:31 |
+perlDreamer | I'd recommend the first, unless you're quite proficient with git | 05:31 |
+perlDreamer | which /me is not | 05:31 |
ekennedy | Its been a few years since I've done a source install of WebGUI but I assume that is what I will want to do to create the desired environment. | 05:32 |
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+Radix-wrk | perlmonkey2, personally not a fan of physical keyboards on phones - a good onscreen keyboard works better imho and they just add bulk to the phone. The HTC Magic looks very slim in comparison so less weight in the pocket. | 05:46 |
+perlmonkey2 | I wonder how Google is making money with Android? I read so far only 3% of handheld web traffic is via Android. Are they hoping it will eventually drive enough search traffic? | 05:52 |
@preaction | deals with vendors to provide support perhaps? | 05:53 |
+perlmonkey2 | makes sense | 05:54 |
+Radix-wrk | android has barely gotten off the ground tho | 06:00 |
+Radix-wrk | it's only available in one phone atm | 06:01 |
+Radix-wrk | and google win by just making google maps/search/etc all ubiquitous on your phone | 06:01 |
+Radix-wrk | the more phones that come out powered by android, the more google wins marketshare of the handset market | 06:02 |
@preaction | yes, but what does marketshare mean to google when android is F/OSS | 06:04 |
+perlDreamer | then doesn't it become F/OSS vs proprietary? | 06:05 |
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@preaction | the HTC Magic looks pretty nice | 06:06 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: colin * r10743 /WebGUI/lib/WebGUI/Asset/Wobject/Survey/SurveyJSON.pm: Fix a POD whitespace problem in SurveyJSON. | 06:07 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: colin * r10744 /WebGUI/lib/WebGUI/Asset/Wobject/Survey.pm: Fix POD syntax errors in Survey.pm | 06:07 |
@preaction | and now, again, i want to wait to buy a new phone because i want to see if the openness of android leads to better software than the idiots at apple | 06:07 |
+Radix-wrk | f/oss just means it's possible for other vendors to add support for their stuff - but doesn't mean they will | 06:08 |
+Radix-wrk | MS is still pushing their Windows mobile stuff.. apple still pushing iPhone. | 06:09 |
+Radix-wrk | Interestingly enough, Symbian OS is open source now too | 06:09 |
@preaction | yeah, but symbian has always sucked | 06:10 |
+Radix-wrk | yup | 06:10 |
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+Radix-wrk | So I think MS will still control the corporate market for the time being.. apple will have the artsy geeks, and android will be aimed at the hacker/geek market who want more flexibility/customisation | 06:12 |
+Radix-wrk | and of course there's a few others.. blackberries OS, Palm's WebOS | 06:13 |
@preaction | i heard BB was going to android | 06:14 |
+Radix-wrk | it's an interesting market atm.. lots of interesting developments and changes | 06:14 |
+Radix-wrk | I think android has the potential to be great.. it all depends on the next few handsets | 06:14 |
@preaction | yes, but if you want something that works well now, go with iphone | 06:15 |
+perlmonkey2 | Radix-wrk: what's wrong with the G1? | 06:15 |
@preaction | in 3 years i suspect android will be top dog | 06:15 |
+perlDreamer | you think it will appeal to the mass market? | 06:17 |
+perlmonkey2 | perlDreamer: there is only a single phone out and it accounts for 3% of online mobile traffic. That seems pretty huge to me. | 06:19 |
@preaction | i think the openness will appeal to users and vendors alike | 06:20 |
@preaction | it's basically a free OS for them to use | 06:20 |
@preaction | (provided their hardware is supported, hence building new phones to take advantage of it) | 06:20 |
+Radix-wrk | perlmonkey2, my only problem with the G1 was the keyboard.. I find those keyboards too dicky.. tiny little buttons on em | 06:20 |
@preaction | it's the ubuntu of phones, only more awesome because of the difference in the platform | 06:21 |
@preaction | android could be a huge win for f/oss | 06:21 |
+perlmonkey2 | android 1.5 has some opengl support. How long before 3D games :P | 06:21 |
+Radix-wrk | onscreen keyboards have the disadvantage in that they take up screen realestate.. but they are much better at touch typing on | 06:21 |
+Radix-wrk | windows mobile and iphone os both have opengl support also | 06:22 |
+Radix-wrk | biggest problem with the games on them has been how to interact.. touch screen or keyboard.. especially with every device being different (some having d-pad, some not) | 06:22 |
+perlmonkey2 | a visor mount and a bluetooth keyboard and it could be a workable terminal :P | 06:22 |
+Radix-wrk | I have a htc touch diamond phone atm.. will stick with this until android stabilises and more phones come out I think | 06:24 |
+Radix-wrk | love the size of this phone tho.. it's tiny | 06:24 |
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+perlmonkey2 | the only thing that would draw me to the iphone is the kindle app. | 06:25 |
+Radix-wrk | Ahh.. you read ebooks on your phone? | 06:25 |
+perlmonkey2 | I've never had a phone that could do it. | 06:25 |
+Radix-wrk | that's the #1 application for me on my existing phone - ebook reader | 06:25 |
+perlmonkey2 | But my bro-in-law showed me his iphone with the kindle app, and the text was very readable. | 06:25 |
+perlmonkey2 | I probably wouldn't kill for it, but I might consider harsh words :P | 06:26 |
+Radix-wrk | I've been reading ebooks on my phone for about 5 years now | 06:26 |
+perlmonkey2 | nice | 06:26 |
+Radix-wrk | microsoft reader and tiny ebook reader are both great | 06:26 |
+Radix-wrk | iphone has text/pdf/html ebook readers already tho | 06:28 |
+Radix-wrk | tho a dedicated reader app is a bit better than your typical app for viewing text files (remembers where you are, allows bookmarks, etc) | 06:28 |
+Radix-wrk | it's great to carry a few hundred books around me all the time tho - read on the train on the way to work.. continue reading over lunch.. read while waiting in a queue.. read while on the treadmill at the gym.. etc | 06:30 |
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+perlmonkey2 | hmm, how would you read on the treadmill? Going to drip sweat on your $400 handheld? | 06:32 |
+perlDreamer | you park it on the console | 06:32 |
+Radix-wrk | I put it on the treadmill itself on the rail in front of the display - and have a sweat towel for dealing with drips ;) | 06:33 |
+perlmonkey2 | heh, makes sense. | 06:34 |
+Radix-wrk | just gotta keep pressing the next page key regularly that's all | 06:34 |
+Radix-wrk | I don't usually run on the treadmill tho.. just a fast paced walk on an incline.. running would be too hard | 06:34 |
+perlmonkey2 | Radix-wrk: heh, I hear that brother. Once I realized how hard it was on an incline, I decided to never run again, barring velociraptors or going to see the visiting Swedish bikini team. | 06:40 |
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CIA-23 | WebGUI: colin * r10745 /WebGUI/t/Shop/Ship.t: Update this test to work with the new USPS driver. | 06:42 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: colin * r10746 /WebGUI/t/Asset/Sku.t: | 06:42 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: Fix the logic in t/Asset/Sku.t. Add tests to make sure that the | 06:42 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: shipsSeparately method is tested. | 06:42 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: colin * r10747 /WebGUI/t/Asset/Wobject/Matrix.t: | 06:42 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: Update test to make getListings work. It used the defaultSort value, which was | 06:42 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: set to an invalid column. | 06:42 |
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+perlDreamer | elnino! | 06:45 |
elnino | hi. you saw me quick! | 06:45 |
elnino | perlDreamer, before I go promising people stuff.. the SMS.. is that in webgui yet? I think we talked about this a while ago. | 06:46 |
+perlDreamer | should be in there by end of tomorrow | 06:46 |
+perlDreamer | so, in 7.7.7 | 06:46 |
elnino | ah beta | 06:46 |
elnino | ok. | 06:46 |
+perlDreamer | well, an enterprising programmer should be able to backport it if necessary | 06:46 |
elnino | and 7.7 is released when? this summer? | 06:46 |
elnino | =) | 06:47 |
* perlDreamer is not sure when it goes stable | 06:47 |
@tavisto | perldreamer, which should we apply for... integrator or provider? | 06:47 |
+perlDreamer | provider | 06:47 |
+perlDreamer | elnino, we should check the roadmap to see if it's on there | 06:49 |
elnino | not mentioned on http://www.webgui.org/webgui/roadmap | 06:50 |
+perlDreamer | nope | 06:50 |
+perlDreamer | maybe preaction will say something about it... | 06:50 |
@preaction | about what? | 06:51 |
+perlDreamer | when does 7.7 go stable? | 06:51 |
elnino | sms | 06:51 |
elnino | and that | 06:51 |
elnino | =) | 06:51 |
@preaction | right before the WUC | 06:51 |
elnino | ok. | 06:51 |
elnino | thanks. | 06:51 |
elnino | and ... sms doesn't cost US (the sender) anything right? she wants a work flow that sends text messages on a particular frequency | 06:51 |
+perlDreamer | I think it depends on the provider | 06:52 |
elnino | ...so I just write a workflow for a subscription. right | 06:52 |
elnino | oh. | 06:52 |
+perlDreamer | most providers get you coming and going | 06:52 |
@preaction | why aren't we just using an SMS-email gateway? | 06:52 |
elnino | thats what I thought (email gateway) | 06:52 |
elnino | cell to cell costs money. but email to cell? | 06:53 |
+perlDreamer | that would only cost the receiver? | 06:53 |
@preaction | right | 06:53 |
elnino | cool. thanks for confirming. | 06:53 |
@preaction | i'm not confirming anything, i didn't write it | 06:53 |
elnino | confirming the email gateway thing/and only costing the receiver. | 06:54 |
elnino | whether webgui works is another store. =) | 06:54 |
elnino | s/store/story | 06:54 |
@preaction | there are SMS-email gateways and they only cost the reciever, dunno if we'll use them | 06:54 |
elnino | so Ihave to sign up for an sms email gateway. | 06:54 |
elnino | I vaguely remember this converstaion. | 06:54 |
elnino | sorry if it's repeat. | 06:55 |
@preaction | no, providers each have their own sms-email gateway | 06:55 |
@preaction | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SMS_gateways#Carrier-Provided_E-Mail_or_Web_to_SMS_Gateways | 06:55 |
elnino | ok. backup. my customer wants people to sign up for a subscription of some sort, that will periodically send them (the customer) a text message. (think weather report for your area) | 06:56 |
elnino | I imagine that the customer wil provide their own email gateway to their cell phone | 06:56 |
elnino | and I just write a workflow to send the text message to the customer's cell. | 06:57 |
@preaction | they could, sure | 06:57 |
@preaction | you'd be sending an e-mail though | 06:57 |
@preaction | the gateway would make it into an SMS message and send it to the user | 06:57 |
elnino | right. like #####@tmobile.com - which the customer will have in their profile somewhere I imagine. | 06:57 |
@preaction | alternatively, you can have them type in their mobile phone number, and give their carrier, and you can try to figure out what their SMS gateway e-mail address is | 06:58 |
@preaction | having them provide the e-mail address is safer though | 06:58 |
@tavisto | yeah those are usually in a standardized format | 06:58 |
+perlDreamer | so there's no general gateway, that would map any cell phone number to the provider? | 06:59 |
elnino | correct | 06:59 |
elnino | one for tmoble, one for verizon, http://www.mutube.com/projects/open-email-to-sms/gateway-list/ | 07:00 |
+perlDreamer | hm | 07:02 |
elnino | should webgui be listed on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SMS_gateways#Carrier-Provided_E-Mail_or_Web_to_SMS_Gateways under "SMS Gateway Software"? | 07:02 |
elnino | whatcha thinkin? | 07:02 |
@preaction | no, it's not itself an SMS gateway | 07:03 |
* perlDreamer is thinking that the SMS system that I am thinking of is more along the lines of these: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SMS_gateway#API_based_3rd_Party_Bulk_SMS_Gateways | 07:03 |
@preaction | a gateway implies that it transforms a submitted message into an SMS message and sends it out over the phone network | 07:04 |
@preaction | so, like, using a modem | 07:06 |
elnino | I guess, using that definition, the modem is the actuall cell phone. no? | 07:09 |
elnino | or the cell phone provider themselves. | 07:10 |
@preaction | the modem is the phone, the gateway takes a request and transfers it to the phone | 07:17 |
elnino | k. | 07:18 |
* elnino goes to bed to think more. | 07:20 |
ekennedy | Is there anyone on-line that can help with an SVN password reset? | 07:25 |
+perlDreamer | ekennedy: that would be Haarg, preaction or rizen | 07:26 |
* perlDreamer would recommend coming back tomorrow morning at 9:00pm CDT for RFE day. | 07:27 |
+perlDreamer | there will be a whole lot of hacking going on | 07:27 |
ekennedy | The day job will be in the way. I've got an RFE to commit and wanted to try to get it before a bunch of other changes are submitted assuming that the RFE day is productive. | 07:28 |
+perlDreamer | ekennedy, can you send me a SVN diff? I'll commit it for you. | 07:29 |
+perlDreamer | but we should get your SVN password cleared up anyway | 07:29 |
ekennedy | perlDreamer - I'll see if I can't find a newer password somewhere on my system and if I don't I send a note to JT to get a new one. If he sees it in the morning maybe I can get it in before taking off. Thanks for your help! | 07:31 |
+perlDreamer | you bet, ekennedy | 07:31 |
@preaction | i'd help, but i'm afraid i don't know who you are | 07:35 |
+perlDreamer | preaction, I'll vouch for ekennedy | 07:38 |
+perlDreamer | same IRC nick as username on the site, see the RFE about reply filter | 07:39 |
+perlDreamer | time for this old man to go to bed. | 07:40 |
+perlDreamer | happy hacking, all | 07:40 |
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ekennedy | preaction: I was just drafting a message to JT. Can I e-mail you the original message I had from JT giving me svn access as some kind of proof? Or would you rather than I just send a note to JT? I get it if that is your preference. Thanks. | 07:49 |
@preaction | ekennedy: perlDreamer vouches for you. what you want your new password to be? | 07:54 |
@preaction | ekennedy: email it to doug@plainblack.com, that way i have an audit trail to CMA | 07:54 |
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CIA-23 | WebGUI: yung * r10748 /WebGUI/ (3 files in 3 dirs): adding listings caching to Matrix | 11:03 |
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CIA-23 | WebGUI: patspam * r10749 /WebGUI/ (7 files in 6 dirs): | 12:16 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: Added Survey feedback template | 12:16 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: Added survey feedback template and method for returning the templated feedback for a given response | 12:16 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: Used this to clean up the default survey template, and updated the i18n and help | 12:16 |
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CIA-23 | WebGUI: patspam * r10750 /WebGUI/lib/WebGUI/Asset/Wobject/Survey.pm: Added www_showFeedback to Survey so that you can dial up response feedback on demand | 12:42 |
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carogray | can anyone answer questions about website statistics - awstats in particular and being hosted on Plain Black servers? | 16:17 |
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CIA-23 | WebGUI: martin * r10751 /WebGUI/ (4 files in 3 dirs): Refactored genereation of tranasaction related tmpl_vars into WG::Shop::Transaction->getTransactionVars. | 17:09 |
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CIA-23 | WebGUI: graham * r10752 /branch/WebGUI_7.6/ (docs/upgrades/upgrade_7.6.22-7.6.23.pl t/Asset/Asset.t): test and upgrade cleanups | 17:33 |
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+perlDreamer | great change, MrHairgrease! | 17:52 |
+MrHairgrease | huh | 17:53 |
+MrHairgrease | what change | 17:53 |
+MrHairgrease | did I change? | 17:53 |
+perlDreamer | refactoring out those template variables | 17:53 |
+MrHairgrease | oh yeah | 17:53 |
+perlDreamer | so they aren't copy/pasted | 17:53 |
+MrHairgrease | they were _almost_ copy/pasted =) | 17:53 |
+MrHairgrease | they differed both one line or so | 17:54 |
+MrHairgrease | but both could use each others missing line | 17:54 |
+MrHairgrease | =) | 17:54 |
+MrHairgrease | I was about to add a tmpl_var to the skus called pricePlusTax | 17:55 |
+MrHairgrease | which would contain the getPrice plus the dafult tax that is applied to it | 17:55 |
+MrHairgrease | default tax being the tax that would be applied when no shipping address is given | 17:56 |
+MrHairgrease | I though it would be easy, but there's no centralized tmpl_var generation thingy in all skus | 17:56 |
+perlDreamer | no, there's not :( | 17:56 |
+MrHairgrease | so I prolly have to add it everywhere | 17:56 |
+MrHairgrease | which sucks | 17:56 |
+MrHairgrease | I did add a getPriceWithTax sub to WG::A::Sku in my working tree already | 17:57 |
+MrHairgrease | but I'm wondering if there would be a better way | 17:57 |
+MrHairgrease | any ideas? | 17:58 |
+perlDreamer | MrHairgrease, this is what I'd do. | 18:01 |
+perlDreamer | I'd start making such a subroutine | 18:01 |
+perlDreamer | and make sure that all the child classes call it | 18:01 |
+perlDreamer | that way it only has to be done once | 18:01 |
+perlDreamer | and we can begin moving common stuff back up into Sku->getTemplateVariables as needed/when time permits | 18:02 |
* perlDreamer has to run to a meeting | 18:02 |
+MrHairgrease | yeah, that was what I was planning on | 18:02 |
+MrHairgrease | ok | 18:02 |
+MrHairgrease | thanks | 18:02 |
+perlDreamer | trying to get some school loans for Kathy | 18:02 |
+MrHairgrease | suck em dry pd | 18:02 |
+perlDreamer | the EU way of higher education is much less expensive, but I hear they tax y'all to death | 18:02 |
+perlDreamer | l8r | 18:02 |
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@tavisto | perldreamer | 18:23 |
@tavisto | I got back the USPS provider account info | 18:23 |
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+perlmonkey2 | accounts | 19:50 |
+perlDreamer | tavisto, how does it sound? | 19:53 |
+perlDreamer | onerous? | 19:55 |
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@tavisto | well doesn't mean much to me but I passed it on to Graham and JT so that they can play with it | 20:06 |
+perlDreamer | Haarg, I need to commit a template that is going to end up in a weird place because of the import/parent problem. | 20:18 |
+perlDreamer | would it be safer to export the whole subfolder? | 20:18 |
@Haarg | hrm | 20:19 |
@Haarg | we should probably just fix the root problem | 20:19 |
@Haarg | for now just do the single template | 20:19 |
+perlDreamer | Okay. If i can come back around and look at the import/parent issue, I'll let you know. | 20:20 |
+perlDreamer | as long as I get it fixed by 7.7.7 release time, it won't matter | 20:20 |
+perlDreamer | er, 7.7.6 rather | 20:20 |
zmk | is there an intended way to make the default view of a gallery the thumbnail view? Can't figure out how to do it except by manually linking to ?func=thumbnails .. | 20:27 |
@preaction | zmk: not presently, no. but there's an RFE out there for it I believe | 20:28 |
+perlDreamer | RFE++ | 20:29 |
+perlDreamer | (meaning I just committed one) | 20:29 |
+perlDreamer | anybody seen RFESlasherMcGurk today? | 20:29 |
@Haarg | yes, over there -> | 20:31 |
zmk | preaction: thanks! | 20:31 |
@Haarg | bunch of crap came up today though | 20:31 |
+perlDreamer | I'll be committing 4 RFEs today | 20:31 |
+perlDreamer | if all goes well ;) | 20:31 |
@preaction | bunch of crap my ass, this week has been a hellstorm | 20:32 |
+perlDreamer | it's been pretty constant the last month | 20:32 |
@preaction | nah, yesterday JT's world exploded, of course he was off-world at the time (as usual for these things to happen), so there were some fun things | 20:33 |
@preaction | one day the world will fear him enough to not explode when he stops looking, but until that day... | 20:33 |
+perlDreamer | hopefully he was heading to a small blue/green world where the rays of the sun will evoke his latent alien powers | 20:34 |
@preaction | well, that's what Graham and I are for :p | 20:34 |
+perlDreamer | indeed | 20:34 |
+perlDreamer | have you pointed out to him that bad things happen when he goes away? | 20:34 |
+perlDreamer | hoster fires | 20:34 |
+perlDreamer | exploding planets | 20:34 |
+perlDreamer | might be better just to stay at home | 20:35 |
+perlDreamer | that happens to my boss | 20:35 |
+perlDreamer | when he goes to Florida there's some major terrorist issue that comes up and disrupts airline travel | 20:35 |
+perlDreamer | ex-boss, I should say | 20:37 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: sno * r10753 /WebGUI/lib/WebGUI/Workflow/Activity/CleanLoginHistory.pm: | 20:41 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: Add retain last login yesNo option. If configured to retain, workflow will determine if | 20:41 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: the last login would be removed from the login history and will skip deleting that entry. | 20:41 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: colin * r10754 /WebGUI/ (8 files in 8 dirs): | 20:41 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: RFE for making an user's inbox filterable by the person who sent it. | 20:41 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: Includes template changes, i18n, help and tests. | 20:41 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: colin * r10755 /WebGUI/ (lib/WebGUI/Session/Setting.pm t/Session/Setting.t): | 20:41 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: Add a has method to Session/Setting, so that it's easy to check if a setting | 20:41 |
@preaction | oh lord. i'm checking out the svn repo with git-svn. and it's at r50. of 10754... | 20:41 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: already exists. Very handy for upgrade scripts. | 20:41 |
@preaction | r500 of 10756... this might take a while... | 20:46 |
+perlDreamer | hm 10:52 - 10:47/(500-50) ~ 5 minutes for 450 commits | 20:50 |
+perlDreamer | roughly 25X more commits to go | 20:51 |
+perlDreamer | so 135 minutes | 20:51 |
+perlDreamer | that's enough time to meet a friend for 5 mile run, drive back home, shower and eat lunch | 20:57 |
+perlDreamer | RFE ++ | 20:59 |
+perlmonkey2 | preaction: you are a brave soul. | 21:00 |
@preaction | i need it. i can't handle keeping all these changes in one SVN repo in limbo like i do | 21:01 |
@preaction | i end up committing half of them erroneously, or having to make absolutely sure, or not being able to work on two features in one file... | 21:02 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: sno * r10756 /WebGUI/lib/WebGUI/i18n/English/Workflow_Activity_CleanLoginHistory.pm: Option messages for Admin panel. | 21:08 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: colin * r10757 /WebGUI/ (4 files in 4 dirs): Add an Inbox setting to send the user a copy of messages that they send. | 21:08 |
@preaction | and if people keep adding revisions, my git-svn clone will NEVER FINISH | 21:09 |
+perlDreamer | sorry :/ | 21:09 |
+perlDreamer | the good news is that they're small, and it's pulling revs faster than we can make them | 21:09 |
+perlDreamer | until RFESlasherMcGurk shows up | 21:09 |
@preaction | er... well after 2200 it decided to do some compressing thing. | 21:11 |
+perlDreamer | going faster? | 21:17 |
@preaction | 2800 now, i suspect it' will be usable by tonight | 21:19 |
+perlDreamer | it'll be faster once we're all in git | 21:22 |
+perlDreamer | RFE ++ | 21:24 |
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@Haarg | preaction, i could give you my repo | 21:27 |
@Haarg | when i built it, i downloaded a copy of the full repo off the server to make it go at a reasonable speed | 21:29 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: colin * r10758 /WebGUI/lib/WebGUI/ProfileCategory.pm: Remove some whitespace. | 21:41 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: colin * r10759 /WebGUI/lib/WebGUI/Account.pm: Document the store method in POD for Account. | 21:41 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: colin * r10760 /WebGUI/lib/WebGUI/Inbox/Message.pm: Only use 1 i18n object. | 21:41 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: colin * r10761 /WebGUI/ (5 files in 5 dirs): Add templated inbox notifications. | 21:41 |
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perlDreamer1 | am I back? | 21:47 |
perlDreamer1 | phew | 21:47 |
* perlDreamer1 goes running | 21:48 |
perlDreamer1 | be back before preaction's git-svn download finishes | 21:48 |
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@Haarg | also, it will take much longer than you think to build a webgui git repo if you include the branches. | 22:00 |
@Haarg | there is one branch that was made by mistake that is a copy of svn root | 22:00 |
@Haarg | so it rebuilds the whole history again | 22:01 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: jt * r10762 /WebGUI/docs/ (2 files in 2 dirs): - Fixed a search tickets problem in the EMS badge builder template. | 22:06 |
@Haarg | preaction, i'm uploading my git repo to dusk. eta 87 minutes. goes back to webgui 0.9. | 22:12 |
@preaction | i just checked out https://svn.webgui.org/plainblack/WebGUI, so it should be just waht i need | 22:14 |
@preaction | i'm already up to 6300 | 22:14 |
@Haarg | ah | 22:14 |
@Haarg | yeah, that goes a lot faster | 22:14 |
@preaction | and your git repo in dusk won't commit back to svn will it? or could you add an auto-hook that would git-svn dcommit | 22:15 |
@preaction | i'm pulling a master and i'll make local branches for all my changes, then push back to master and then dcommit | 22:15 |
@Haarg | what i'm uploading is just a tarball of what i'm using basically | 22:15 |
@Haarg | so yes it will commit back to svn | 22:15 |
@preaction | ohh, i get it | 22:17 |
@Haarg | it's basically just a git svn checkout that's been massaged a bit to have more data and so i can rebuild it faster | 22:19 |
@tavisto | preaction, I need your l33t gallery sk1llz | 22:22 |
@tavisto | er kn0wl3dge | 22:22 |
@preaction | tavisto: wat j00 n33d | 22:22 |
@tavisto | hehe | 22:22 |
@tavisto | I have been tasked with grouping the webgui sightings into categories that match our solutions section | 22:22 |
@tavisto | therefore, business, gov, non-prof, education | 22:23 |
@preaction | individual galleries? | 22:23 |
@tavisto | yessir, so I'm curious if I can just go in and manage the current monster gallery for sightings and cut/paste the albums | 22:23 |
@tavisto | I don't think this is a problem but I wasn't sure since I've never done anything like this before | 22:23 |
@preaction | yes, cut/paste should work fine | 22:33 |
@tavisto | that is great news | 22:33 |
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CIA-23 | WebGUI: jt * r10763 /WebGUI/ (docs/changelog/7.x.x.txt lib/WebGUI/Asset/Sku/EMSTicket.pm): | 22:54 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: - Fixed a problem in the EMS calculating prices on tickets with a badge that | 22:54 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: has an existing ribbon. | 22:54 |
@preaction | IT'S DONE! YAY! | 23:06 |
@preaction | only 2 hours, not bad | 23:06 |
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CIA-23 | WebGUI: joeri * r10764 /WebGUI/ (11 files in 10 dirs): add PayPal paydriver | 23:20 |
carogray | webstatistics question | 23:21 |
carogray | ? | 23:21 |
carogray | hosted on plainblack when we look at webstatistics for hosts - we are assuming that the hosts are the the hosts of our visitors? or the ip addresses of people looking at our website | 23:22 |
carogray | Plain Black is "looking" at our pages more than anyone else - way more than anyone else? | 23:22 |
carogray | doesn't this then skew all of the results of our statistics like how many pages are looked at? | 23:23 |
dapperedodo | I think that will be spectre who is looking | 23:23 |
carogray | ok - but it isn't people who are using our information right? | 23:23 |
dapperedodo | Well, you never know that for sure if you put things on the internet | 23:24 |
@preaction | carogray: that's probably spectre, yes. what IP address specifically? | 23:26 |
@preaction | or what hostname? | 23:26 |
@preaction | we can make it so those don't show up anymore, if you post to the support board and ask | 23:26 |
carogray | ugh! have to go! 15 minutes ago! will you guys still be aorund in a couple of hours or tomorrow? | 23:27 |
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@preaction | i really need to stop giving PB help here... | 23:34 |
@Haarg | preaction, if you want a more complete git repo, it's on dusk in my home dir | 23:40 |
@preaction | okay, thanks. i might replace my SVN.master with it | 23:41 |
ckotil | so i just lost some perl modules which broke webgui after a restart of httpd. i rerean testEnvironment, and it downloaded what i had lost. so its working again | 23:45 |
ckotil | so far i cant figure out why/how i lost the perl modules. | 23:45 |
@preaction | wrong environment? | 23:45 |
@preaction | new WRE? | 23:45 |
ckotil | wrong env maybe. but i called the apache restart script via sudo like i always do | 23:46 |
ckotil | its a source install | 23:46 |
@preaction | perhaps someone else did it and didn't know they were doing wrong? perhaps the version numbers we needed got bumped up? | 23:48 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: sno * r10765 /WebGUI/lib/WebGUI/ (Content/AssetManager.pm Search.pm): | 23:48 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: Admin Panel asset search extension: allow searching by assetId with the inclusion of a helper keyword: | 23:48 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: assetid: <an_asset_id> | 23:48 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: assetId search is performed using a logical OR so multiple helper:key pairs can be applied | 23:48 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: and normal keywords can also be used in the same query | 23:48 |
ckotil | impossible to say. i just hope i stumble accross something that explains what just happened. | 23:48 |
ckotil | my heart always drops when i see service unavailable. | 23:49 |
ckotil | saw this in apache logs. Can't locate object method "open" via package "WebGUI::Session" at /gnoc/globalnoc/htdocs/WebGUI/lib/WebGUI/URL/Content.pm line 54.\n | 23:49 |
ckotil | saw nothing in webgui log. | 23:49 |
@preaction | missing modules will do that | 23:49 |
ckotil | ya | 23:50 |
ckotil | so that tipped me off to rerun the testEnv script | 23:50 |
ckotil | MIME::Tools was one missing package, and i forget the others. | 23:50 |
@Haarg | i think i'm going to add and use Scope::Guard as a way to deal with session's tendancy to leak | 23:51 |
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ckotil | modules installed via testEnv dont update the history file for cpan | 23:52 |
ckotil | or maybe im lookin int he wrong place | 23:52 |
@preaction | ckotil: that's weird. it uses CPAN.pm to do it | 23:52 |
ckotil | ah, at least i can see the build files in .cpan/build. File::Temp, MIME::Tools, File::Path were reinstalled | 23:55 |
@preaction | File::Path is a standard module, same as File::Temp | 23:56 |
@preaction | so whatever happened, it's pretty weird | 23:56 |
@preaction | wooo! go joeri! paypal driver! | 23:57 |
dapperedodo | no that would be woo go Paul Wrightson, he created it | 23:57 |
@preaction | oh, then WOOOOO! | 23:58 |
@preaction | yay for new committers! | 23:58 |
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@preaction | so how could i justify this patch i made to allow Redirect to show up in Page Layout with a template? | 00:00 |
@preaction | elnino asked for the feature, didn't make an RFE, but i did it anyway because i was bored one night | 00:01 |
@Haarg | preaction, if you do use my git repo, you'll note it maps svn users to real names. if new names show up you'll have to add them to the authors file it uses. alternatively, you could just remove that from the config file. | 00:01 |
@preaction | and now i get this strange sense of deja vu like she asked for this before and was rejected... like i've argued for it before... | 00:01 |
@preaction | Haarg: it doesn't happen automatically? | 00:02 |
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@Haarg | it will refuse to continue updating until you add an entry to the authors file | 00:02 |
@preaction | ah, nice | 00:02 |
perlDreamer1 | Haarg, you think Session is leaking? | 00:04 |
@Haarg | not currently | 00:04 |
@Haarg | but it's easy to write code that does leak it | 00:04 |
@Haarg | and depending on the design of the code, fixing the leaks can be painful | 00:04 |
@Haarg | export code specifically | 00:05 |
perlDreamer1 | too true :/ | 00:05 |
@Haarg | would be much friendlier to be able to just throw an error or return | 00:05 |
@Haarg | instead of having to close the session before doing that | 00:05 |
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perlDreamer1 | ugh | 00:27 |
perlDreamer1 | merging code from old versions of wG into HEAD is hard! | 00:27 |
@preaction | yes, yessir it is | 00:30 |
@preaction | easier to merge back to older versions imho | 00:30 |
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@preaction | so i made a Form::SelectAsset control, but i don't know if it works :( | 00:30 |
perlDreamer1 | you _do_ know what I'm going to say to that, right? | 00:31 |
@preaction | OMG NO, WUT | 00:31 |
perlDreamer1 | How about writing a test? :) | 00:31 |
@preaction | OMGYES | 00:31 |
perlDreamer1 | tests are easy, friendly, and have two major benefits | 00:31 |
perlDreamer1 | 1) they make sure that the codes works today and will work tomorrow | 00:32 |
@preaction | but tomorrow or something. i've got real work to do and i'm sitting here cleaning out my SVN repo of all the bits of code i've written and told nobody about | 00:32 |
perlDreamer1 | 2) They get annoying, insistent, berating code maintainers off yer back | 00:32 |
perlDreamer1 | Of course, if Haarg weren't so nice all the time, I wouldn't have to be annoying, insistent, berating, impatient and voluble all the time, either. | 00:33 |
@preaction | sweet. now i have git clones for each of my in-progress features (only 4, not counting the other full SVN clones and my Doug's Experimental branch) | 00:34 |
@preaction | oh, wait, 5 | 00:34 |
@Haarg | what do you mean by git clones? | 00:34 |
@preaction | git clone WebGUI_SVN.master <some name> | 00:35 |
@Haarg | ah | 00:35 |
@preaction | then i can git push WebGUI_SVN.master, and then git-svn dcommit in my .master | 00:35 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: dwrandall * r10766 /WebGUI/ (8 files in 6 dirs): Content Delivery Network (CDN) - optional, for either uploads only or both uploads & extras (rfe 9134) | 00:35 |
@preaction | wait, who? | 00:36 |
@Haarg | not sure how you installed git, but the source archive includes a script in contribs that will create symlinked working directories | 00:36 |
@Haarg | then you could dcommit from any of the directories | 00:36 |
perlDreamer1 | yeah, who? | 00:37 |
@preaction | Haarg: yeah, but there was a huge disclaimer about "HYRE BE DRAGYNS" that i didn't want to deal with | 00:38 |
@Haarg | ah | 00:38 |
@Haarg | it's worked mostly fine for me | 00:38 |
@preaction | i didn't understand, something about deleting branches and corrupting the clone repo | 00:38 |
@Haarg | are you sure you mean the same thing? | 00:38 |
@preaction | most likely it's someone being too thorough on the manpage, but a two-step commit is fine for me | 00:38 |
@Haarg | there are some options you can give to the clone command to do some odd things | 00:39 |
@preaction | man git-clone, the --shared option | 00:39 |
@Haarg | the script i'm using is different | 00:39 |
@Haarg | it just symlinks all the relevant files/dirs | 00:39 |
perlDreamer1 | it's not bad code | 00:40 |
perlDreamer1 | there's tests | 00:40 |
perlDreamer1 | POD | 00:40 |
@preaction | but wouldn't symlinks cause me to edit both the clone and the source repo? | 00:40 |
perlDreamer1 | code formatting is strange. Random indents and cuddled elses | 00:40 |
@Haarg | depends on what you mean | 00:40 |
@Haarg | as long as they are working on different branches, it doesn't matter | 00:41 |
@Haarg | the repo as a whole would be shared, but the data is all still kept separate | 00:41 |
@preaction | oh, ohhhh, OHHHHH. i didn't have to do this, i could have just done "git branch" | 00:41 |
@Haarg | for most things, yeah | 00:41 |
@preaction | i'm still thinking like SVN, where branching is a stupid and dangerous thing | 00:42 |
@Haarg | although sometimes it's nice to have separate working directories for things | 00:42 |
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perlDreamer1 | only thing that's bad is that he didn't put a notice in the changelog | 00:43 |
perlDreamer1 | but he wrote 38 tests to validate his new CDN storage code | 00:43 |
perlDreamer1 | which is cool! | 00:43 |
@preaction | indeed | 00:44 |
perlDreamer1 | each new method added to Session/Url and Session/Id got a test | 00:44 |
@preaction | it'd be nice to see some examples of how to use it with S3 or whatever other CDN are out there | 00:45 |
@preaction | otherwise i like it, it adds some wonderful features in a nice way into a very old part of WebGUI | 00:46 |
perlDreamer1 | someone needs to let him know about the changelog and general coding standards | 00:46 |
@preaction | i can ask who dunnit so we can mention it | 00:47 |
perlDreamer1 | u da man, dawg | 00:47 |
@Haarg | perlDreamer1, are there any particular rough spots you noticed when working on exporting in story manager? | 00:48 |
perlDreamer1 | nope | 00:48 |
perlDreamer1 | worked fine | 00:48 |
@Haarg | looks like i'm going to end up refactoring some parts of the export code | 00:48 |
perlDreamer1 | AssetExport code, or Story* export code? | 00:49 |
@Haarg | AssetExport | 00:49 |
perlDreamer1 | that would be very good | 00:49 |
@Haarg | it won't be all that different, but at least cleaned up in some ways | 00:49 |
perlDreamer1 | is t/Mail/Send.t working for you, Haarg? | 00:50 |
@Haarg | 7.6 or 7.7? | 00:50 |
perlDreamer1 | 7.7 | 00:51 |
perlDreamer1 | I'm neck deep in merging RFE code | 00:51 |
perlDreamer1 | that test was acting funny last night | 00:51 |
@Haarg | works for me | 00:51 |
@Haarg | although i have seen it act odd from time to time | 00:51 |
perlDreamer1 | random pairs of tests would fail | 00:51 |
@preaction | the only suitable course is for me to commit ritual seppuku to absolve myself of the sin of t/Mail/Send.t | 00:59 |
@Haarg | heh | 01:00 |
perlDreamer1 | preaction, it's a great test | 01:00 |
perlDreamer1 | there are things that we couldn't test without it | 01:00 |
@preaction | TELL ME LIES TELL ME SWEET LITTLE LIES | 01:00 |
perlDreamer1 | instead of sepuku, you must find a way to refactor it to make it more testable | 01:00 |
@preaction | anyway, real work now! | 01:00 |
perlDreamer1 | I have read the PayPal code | 01:00 |
perlDreamer1 | and it's not going to pass the POD tests | 01:01 |
perlDreamer1 | Haarg, I'm going to start running regressions now | 01:01 |
perlDreamer1 | maybe we'll get done by Friday | 01:01 |
@Haarg | heh | 01:01 |
@Haarg | thanks | 01:01 |
@Haarg | i still have a number of things to commit | 01:01 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: colin * r10767 /WebGUI/docs/changelog/7.x.x.txt: Add missing changelog entry for rfe #9134 | 01:07 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: dagitz * r10768 /WebGUI/www/extras/assets/sharefolder.gif: Addes sharefolder.gif | 01:07 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: dagitz * r10769 /WebGUI/www/extras/assets/story.gif: added story.gif | 01:07 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: dagitz * r10770 /WebGUI/www/extras/assets/storyarchive.gif: added storyarchive.gif | 01:07 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: dagitz * r10771 /WebGUI/www/extras/assets/storytopic.gif: added storytopic.gif | 01:07 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: dagitz * r10772 /WebGUI/www/extras/assets/small/storytopic.gif: added small storytopic.gif | 01:07 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: dagitz * r10773 /WebGUI/www/extras/assets/small/storyarchive.gif: added small storyarchive.gif | 01:07 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: dagitz * r10774 /WebGUI/www/extras/assets/small/story.gif: added small story.gif | 01:07 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: dagitz * r10775 /WebGUI/www/extras/assets/small/sharefolder.gif: added small sharefolder.gif | 01:07 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: colin * r10776 /WebGUI/ (8 files in 8 dirs): Enable WebGUI sites to send SMS messages as inbox notifications. | 01:07 |
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@tavisto | I WEAR MY SUNGLASSES AT NIGHT | 01:12 |
@tavisto | *Tavisto snaps out of 80's karaoke night* ... preaction, did you solve the case? | 01:12 |
@Haarg | perlDreamer1, preaction, http://gist.github.com/111343 if you care to look | 01:13 |
@Haarg | still incomplete | 01:13 |
@preaction | The Case of the Missing Millionaire? well, i recovered 500,000, and i'll return the 300,000 to the authorities | 01:13 |
@tavisto | um no.. Nancy Drew... I'm talking about your staff email | 01:14 |
@preaction | no | 01:15 |
@tavisto | what is the "new hotness" feature you're talking about | 01:15 |
perlDreamer1 | Haarg, doesn't it still need to output messages back to the user, in addition to the throw? | 01:15 |
@preaction | i had heard it was someone from Donorware | 01:15 |
@Haarg | that's handled by the method that calls it | 01:15 |
perlDreamer1 | cool | 01:15 |
@tavisto | Colin that's very cool about the SMS messages | 01:15 |
@preaction | tavisto: the Content Delivery Network thing? allows you to use Amazon S3 or some other CDN to speed up requests | 01:16 |
@preaction | i forget what that other big CDN is | 01:16 |
@preaction | inktomi? | 01:16 |
@preaction | alexa? | 01:16 |
@tavisto | yeah must be... I had not heard of this... | 01:16 |
perlDreamer1 | tavisto: cool features today: CDN handling for wG, SMS messaging, PayPal driver | 01:16 |
perlDreamer1 | akamai is a CDN? | 01:16 |
@tavisto | oooh paypal! | 01:16 |
@preaction | akamai, that's the one | 01:16 |
perlDreamer1 | isn't all core code supposed to have the copyright sent back to PB? | 01:17 |
@tavisto | someone must have big plans if they're going to use amazon s3 or akamai servers for their content | 01:17 |
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@preaction | it's Donorware, they're big, and they have plans, so they're big plans ;) | 01:18 |
@tavisto | that's awesome... I can only hope that some of their wG clients want to move to that | 01:18 |
@preaction | indeed. especially for world-wide sites it will improve response times (since CDNs usually do geocaching) | 01:19 |
@tavisto | so perldreamer1, I take it we could add a new option to allow password recovery to be an sms message | 01:21 |
@tavisto | I know my bank (Chase) seems to favor that option | 01:21 |
* perlDreamer1 would have to think about that. Right now only inbox notifications are setup with that route | 01:21 |
perlDreamer1 | it could be done | 01:21 |
@preaction | that would be nice actually. requires they have the phone instead of an e-mail account one can login to wherever | 01:23 |
@tavisto | yep I'm sure it could be now that you've got some of it in place | 01:23 |
@tavisto | it's a nice option to have.. assuming they already have their phone # in their profile. Otherwise it's a miserable failure | 01:23 |
@preaction | well, we'd only send the pw to sms if they can, otherwise we'd go back to e-mail :p | 01:24 |
@tavisto | I would like a snail mail option too please. ;) | 01:24 |
@preaction | hmm... that might be an idea. an email to snail-mail gateway, like paycheques | 01:25 |
@preaction | they just get printed and sent, almost no user interaction (afaik) | 01:25 |
@tavisto | nooo.. | 01:25 |
@preaction | they're special paper and printers, it's like an envelope with carbon-paper inside | 01:26 |
@preaction | use the special printer to print one side, then laser the address on the other | 01:26 |
* preaction gets head out of the clouds | 01:27 |
@preaction | we could add an e-mail to fax gateway though | 01:27 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: colin * r10777 /WebGUI/lib/WebGUI/Asset/ (Wobject/StoryTopic.pm Wobject/StoryArchive.pm Story.pm): Make the Story Manager assets use the new icons. | 01:33 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: colin * r10778 /WebGUI/lib/WebGUI/Shop/PayDriver/PayPal/PayPalStd.pm: Fix POD whitespace problem in the new PayPal driver. | 01:33 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: colin * r10779 /WebGUI/docs/upgrades/upgrade_7.7.5-7.7.6.pl: Fix syntax errors in the upgrade script. | 01:33 |
@Haarg | perlDreamer1, what would you think of changing tests to use Scope::Guard instead of an END block | 01:33 |
@Haarg | it would take a while to change all the tests, but the main advantage would be allowing the tests to run through something like Test::Aggregate | 01:34 |
@Haarg | which would speed up running all the tests substantially | 01:35 |
perlDreamer1 | Haarg, I'm not familiar with Scope::Guard, how does it make removing the END block work? | 01:36 |
@preaction | it runs some code when the scope ends | 01:36 |
@Haarg | well, it basically just returns an object with a destroy method | 01:36 |
@preaction | i think, that's what i read | 01:36 |
@Haarg | and the destroy method calls an arbitrary sub | 01:37 |
@Haarg | so instead of having an end block, you would have at the top of the test 'my $guard = Scope::Guard->new(sub { cleanup; });' | 01:38 |
@Haarg | Test::Aggregate is kind of hackish, but it runs all the tests in the same perl interpreter | 01:39 |
@Haarg | so you don't have to re-load modules | 01:39 |
@Haarg | that wouldn't work at all with all the cleanup code in the end blocks though, since many of the tests rely on having a clean db | 01:39 |
perlDreamer1 | I stuck it in an END block because for many errors, the tests clean themselves up anyway | 01:41 |
perlDreamer1 | but it doesn't always work | 01:41 |
@preaction | does Scope::Guard / DESTROY get called in case of a die? | 01:43 |
@Haarg | well, i think using something like Scope::Guard you get similar guarantees that the code will be run compared to and END | 01:43 |
@Haarg | yes | 01:43 |
perlDreamer1 | then we only have the problems of updating every single test, seeing how well they work run in aggregate, and all the script support to make it work. | 01:44 |
@Haarg | yeah | 01:45 |
@Haarg | not a small amount of work certainly | 01:45 |
perlDreamer1 | updating the tests is not that much work, I've already been doing that for the object clean-up | 01:45 |
@Haarg | i'd say we should use Test::Class instead, but it's hard to know when that will be working again | 01:45 |
perlDreamer1 | yeah | 01:46 |
@Haarg | have to go, be back in a little | 01:46 |
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@preaction | good lord what happened to donorware? | 01:46 |
perlDreamer1 | huh? | 01:46 |
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@preaction | donor.com is their new site, and it's... incredible | 01:46 |
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@preaction | and it's a WebGUI site | 01:47 |
@tavisto | oooh ooh ooooh! | 01:47 |
@tavisto | oh yeah that's not new | 01:47 |
@tavisto | good site though | 01:47 |
@preaction | okay, i remember their olllld old site | 01:48 |
@preaction | back when i was upgrading them to 6.8 | 01:48 |
@tavisto | yeah it was ugh | 01:48 |
@preaction | it was functional, but not so much the pretty | 01:48 |
@preaction | well. it wasn't so much the functional either... | 01:48 |
@preaction | they had three sites they merged into one | 01:48 |
@tavisto | i like the iDasco app they have hehe | 01:48 |
* preaction wrote the "Splitting and Merging WebGUI Sites" presentation from that experience | 01:48 |
@tavisto | sounds like a blast | 01:49 |
@preaction | the experience was nice. the presentation sucked | 01:50 |
@tavisto | anyone have an idea about this? | 01:51 |
@tavisto | I was able to widgetize a webgui calendar by starting the new demo you gave me and using the macro but when I copied the code over to my site it displayed the entire webgui page housing the calendar within the set dimensions rather than just the calendar. Ideas? | 01:51 |
@preaction | style template maybe? or wrong URL? | 01:52 |
@tavisto | isnt the widget function only supposed to bring over the asset? | 01:52 |
@tavisto | hmm... think it could be the page url instead of the actual calendar? :) | 01:52 |
perlDreamer1 | widget is broken, it's a known bug | 01:53 |
perlDreamer1 | however, try the beta server instead to see if it works differently | 01:53 |
@tavisto | I just looked and it's the correct url | 01:54 |
@tavisto | oh crap | 01:54 |
@tavisto | you just peed on my cheerios perlDreamer | 01:54 |
perlDreamer1 | do try the beta server, tavisto | 01:54 |
@tavisto | yep will do.. the widget isn't enabled on the regular demo.plainblack server though | 01:54 |
perlDreamer1 | well, let me be blunt | 01:55 |
perlDreamer1 | I had a prototype fix for the Widget | 01:55 |
perlDreamer1 | it seemed to work for me | 01:55 |
perlDreamer1 | but it got accidently committed before I was fully convinced that it worked the way the widget was supposed to | 01:55 |
perlDreamer1 | when I left it last, it showed just the content, not a whole page | 01:56 |
perlDreamer1 | it would be in 7.7.5 or .6 | 01:56 |
perlDreamer1 | maybe another dev could look at it in HEAD and let me know how close I got? | 01:56 |
@tavisto | just like on the other demo server, widgets are not enabled | 01:58 |
@tavisto | er the macro is not | 01:58 |
perlDreamer1 | preaction: can you take a peek at it? | 01:59 |
@preaction | i can't right now, but perhaps in the future | 02:02 |
@tavisto | perlDreamer1, I don't see a bug report on this. I see one about the templating being broken | 02:03 |
perlDreamer1 | it's the same one | 02:03 |
perlDreamer1 | same thing | 02:03 |
perlDreamer1 | without a template, it's broken | 02:03 |
perlDreamer1 | with a template, it's kind of broken | 02:03 |
@tavisto | oh okay.. | 02:03 |
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@preaction | hm.. wonder if/when donorware will upgrade to the new Shop. they've got some old Commerce plugins that would need updating | 02:06 |
perlDreamer1 | there was a guy in the forum asking if there were plans to reintroduce the multiple variant category into the Shop. | 02:09 |
@preaction | i don't see why really, since it's just another level of complexity that's not really necessary | 02:09 |
perlDreamer1 | oh, ask SDuensin | 02:09 |
@preaction | though perhaps an easy UI to add/edit variants that does levels like that | 02:10 |
perlDreamer1 | if you have a high number of variants, it helps a lot | 02:10 |
perlDreamer1 | he was making one for a jewelry shop, where you can order rings by one of like 30 sizes, in several metals and with different stone options | 02:10 |
perlDreamer1 | 30*X*Y is a big number to add | 02:10 |
@preaction | ah, true | 02:10 |
@preaction | perhaps easier would be to add a Size to the Ring product when the ring is purchased | 02:11 |
@preaction | okay, maybe not easier | 02:11 |
perlDreamer1 | worth thinking about, though | 02:14 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: colin * r10780 /WebGUI/lib/WebGUI/i18n/English/Asset_Survey.pm: Fix a missing help title for the Survey. | 02:19 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: colin * r10781 /WebGUI/etc/WebGUI.conf.original: Fix bad JSON in the new CDN section | 02:19 |
@tavisto | perlDreamer, I added extra description and a screenshot to that bug report. In case other people (like me) are out there and aren't understanding the bug | 02:26 |
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CIA-23 | WebGUI: colin * r10782 /WebGUI/t/Shop/ (4 files in 3 dirs): Add a basic test for the PayPalStd driver. | 03:06 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: ekennedy * r10783 /WebGUI/ (4 files in 4 dirs): Implemented RFE 10253 - Select DataForm HTMLArea Rich Text Editor - Provides ability to specify the Rich Editor to be used for htmlArea fields on a given DataForm Wobject | 03:06 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: patspam * r10784 /WebGUI/docs/upgrades/packages-7.7.6/root_import_survey_default-feedback.wgpkg: Fixed bad i18n call in Survey feedback template | 03:06 |
@preaction | wow, today was huge RFE day | 03:07 |
perlDreamer1 | 6-7 big RFEs | 03:08 |
@preaction | i still haven't gotten my RFE in yet | 03:09 |
perlDreamer1 | I'll quit bothering you | 03:10 |
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perlDreamer1 | hm, the new DataForm code needs i18n | 03:13 |
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@preaction | okay, the Visual mode in vim just became my new best friend | 03:16 |
perlDreamer1 | :) | 03:16 |
@preaction | do capital-V, select some lines, then :s/Something/SomeOtherThing/g<Enter> <- MAGIC | 03:16 |
perlDreamer1 | yup | 03:16 |
@preaction | no more guessing line numbers and putting in stupid :.,.+20s/.../.../g | 03:16 |
perlDreamer1 | v is even better | 03:16 |
@preaction | i like line-wise, i work line-wise more | 03:17 |
perlDreamer1 | for s///, I do too | 03:17 |
perlDreamer1 | but v is great for inserting the same thing in the same place | 03:17 |
perlDreamer1 | or for changing variable names when they are all lined up | 03:17 |
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@preaction | i like . as well, especially with "c"hange | 03:18 |
@preaction | i just forget to use change a lot | 03:18 |
* perlDreamer1 is going to take break before getting back to RFE merging central | 03:22 |
@preaction | humph. now i want a unified web services API for WebGUI | 03:23 |
@preaction | for consistency and code re-use's sake | 03:23 |
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CIA-23 | WebGUI: colin * r10785 /WebGUI/t/Inbox.t: Clean up users in the new Inbox tests. | 03:31 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: colin * r10786 /WebGUI/lib/WebGUI/ (i18n/English/Asset_DataForm.pm Asset/Wobject/DataForm.pm): i18n the choices for the new DataForm Rich Editor selector. | 03:31 |
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CIA-23 | WebGUI: dwrandall * r10787 /WebGUI/ (6 files in 5 dirs): CDN: perltidy on new/changed code | 03:53 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: dwrandall * r10788 /WebGUI/docs/changelog/7.x.x.txt: Attributions for rfe #9134 | 03:53 |
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+patspam | hmm, crud seems to be creating all entries with sequenceNumber=1, and then promote/demote doesn't work | 04:56 |
@preaction | that's not good | 04:56 |
+patspam | using a sequenceKey (assetId) | 04:56 |
+perlDreamer | almost have all tests cleaned up | 04:59 |
+perlDreamer | with so many commits today, it's hard to tell what I've broken, vs other code. | 05:00 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: colin * r10789 /WebGUI/t/Shop/TaxDriver/EU.t: | 05:04 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: Cleanup the sku created for testing. | 05:04 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: Use the new WebGUI::Test->usersToDelete for user cleanup. | 05:04 |
+perlDreamer | sounds like Crud needs more tests | 05:07 |
+patspam | mea culpa | 05:10 |
+patspam | i wasn't passing in the sequenceKey when the empty crud item was created for the "Add" action | 05:11 |
+perlDreamer | you have to do that? | 05:12 |
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CIA-23 | WebGUI: colin * r10790 /WebGUI/t/Shop/TaxDriver/EU.t: Better cart cleanup, so it also removes the CartItems. | 05:20 |
CIA-23 | WebGUI: colin * r10791 /WebGUI/t/ (Inbox Inbox/Message.t): Add a test for Inbox/Message, for status codes. | 05:20 |
+perlDreamer | getting closer to clean | 05:21 |
@preaction | wtf is WebGUI::Session::Env->clientIsSpider? | 05:27 |
+perlDreamer | daviddelikat cooked that up | 05:27 |
+perlDreamer | it's a way of preventing bots | 05:28 |
+perlDreamer | that disobey robots.txt | 05:28 |
+perlDreamer | _I think_ | 05:28 |
@preaction | but it works based on useragent, and is thus completely innacurate | 05:28 |
@preaction | what if i have a plugin in firefox called "webcrawler toolbar"? | 05:29 |
@preaction | i'm a spider? | 05:29 |
+perlDreamer | actually, there's a $username eq 'preaction' for that. | 05:29 |
@preaction | omg where? | 05:29 |
+perlDreamer | ack preaction /data/WebGUI/lib | 05:29 |
@preaction | nothing | 05:30 |
@preaction | you lied | 05:30 |
+perlDreamer | who? /me? | 05:30 |
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