| --- Log opened Thu Nov 01 00:00:08 2007 |
| +MrHairgrease | oh man | 00:19 |
| +MrHairgrease | spectre is so cool! | 00:19 |
| +MrHairgrease | thanks for creating it! | 00:19 |
| +Radix_ | ? | 00:43 |
| * Radix_ likes the new WebGUI roadmap, but wonders why he got four copies of the same email. | 00:44 |
| @preaction | might've been Tavis editing it a bit, or maybe he cross-posted | 00:48 |
| +Radix_ | might want to mention to tavis that editing it does that so he knows in future :) | 00:50 |
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| +perlDreamer | mighty quiet tonight | 03:53 |
| +perlDreamer | Is everyone trick or treating? | 03:53 |
| @apeiron | Been pretty dead around here with regard to that. About 10 people the entire night. | 04:23 |
| @apeiron | And it's 10:30 here. | 04:23 |
| @apeiron | Might be because the kids have school the next day or something. I dunno. | 04:24 |
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| SDuensin | Greetings. | 15:30 |
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| AMH_bob | And greetings to you too! | 15:39 |
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| CIA-18 | WebGUI: graham * r4921 /branch/WebGUI_7.4/ (7 files in 5 dirs): Matrix hoverhelp fixes | 15:48 |
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| CIA-18 | WebGUI: graham * r4922 /branch/WebGUI_7.4/ (2 files in 2 dirs): more matrix hoverhelp fixes | 16:18 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: graham * r4923 /branch/WebGUI_7.4/docs/create.sql: preparing for 7.4.12 release | 16:33 |
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| CIA-18 | WebGUI: jt * r4924 /releases/WebGUI_7.4.12-stable: Release 7.4.12-stable | 16:48 |
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| CIA-18 | WebGUI: graham * r4925 /branch/WebGUI_7.4/ (4 files in 4 dirs): preparing for 7.4.13 dev | 17:48 |
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| CIA-18 | WebGUI: graham * r4926 /WebGUI/ (9 files in 5 dirs): merging 7.4 changes | 20:33 |
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| CIA-18 | WebGUI: colin * r4927 /WebGUI/docs/upgrades/upgrade_7.4.12-7.5.0.pl: add missing module use line to upgrade script | 21:03 |
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| CIA-18 | WebGUI: jt * r4928 /wrebuild/wre/ (docs/changelog.txt sbin/wreconsole.pl): fix: WRE 0.8 Services Controller screen lists apache's in the wrong order. | 22:03 |
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| wgGuest48 | root/tempspace, what is it used for? | 01:08 |
| @preaction_ | temporary files | 01:09 |
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| CIA-18 | WebGUI: colin * r4929 /WebGUI/ (t/lib/WebGUI/Test.pm lib/WebGUI/Session/Privilege.pm): | 06:18 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: Add a missing use line in Session/Privilege.pm. | 06:18 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: Try to completely clean up all session related stuff from each test. | 06:18 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: colin * r4930 /WebGUI/t/lib/WebGUI/Test.pm: var->end already does a scratch->deleteAll | 06:33 |
| @rizen | root/tempspace is used for temporary assets. currently just the wiki uploads | 06:34 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: colin * r4931 /WebGUI/t/ (3 files in 3 dirs): add a test stub for DeleteExpiredSessions. To be filled in soon :) | 06:48 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: colin * r4932 /WebGUI/t/Workflow/Activity/DeleteExpiredSessions.t: add plan for testing. Fill in with code later | 07:03 |
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| +Radix_ | How goes it bartjol? :) Got your license yet? | 13:03 |
| bartjol | not jet | 13:03 |
| bartjol | yet | 13:03 |
| +Radix_ | still working at it eh? :) | 13:03 |
| bartjol | how is thee gooey underwear | 13:04 |
| +Radix_ | underwear? | 13:04 |
| bartjol | sure | 13:04 |
| bartjol | gooey strings for men | 13:04 |
| +MrHairgrease | bart | 13:04 |
| +Radix_ | Umm.. I think koen is the only one with those | 13:04 |
| +MrHairgrease | time for lunch! | 13:04 |
| +Radix_ | enjoy :) | 13:04 |
| bartjol | they don't excist | 13:04 |
| bartjol | ah... | 13:05 |
| bartjol | lunch! | 13:05 |
| +MrHairgrease | yes | 13:05 |
| +MrHairgrease | lunch | 13:05 |
| bartjol | surry raqdix, I was confused | 13:07 |
| bartjol | thought you were one of them plainblack guys | 13:07 |
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| +Radix_ | lol | 13:09 |
| bartjol | bye | 13:58 |
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| SDuensin | FRIDAY!!!!! | 15:25 |
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| nutrino | TGIF | 16:11 |
| nutrino | TGIPD | 16:11 |
| @rizen | TGIPD? | 16:11 |
| nutrino | pay day | 16:13 |
| nutrino | one could even go as far as saying TGIN | 16:13 |
| nutrino | november ;) | 16:13 |
| @rizen | TGNEUAFE | 17:03 |
| @rizen | thank god not everyone uses abbreviations for everything | 17:03 |
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| wgGuest19 | What is the easiest way to load WebGUI to a linux server? | 18:09 |
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| @khenn | download the WRE 0.8.0 and run the setup | 18:29 |
| @khenn | it will download and install webgui for you | 18:29 |
| @khenn | and set up the enviornment | 18:29 |
| @khenn | environment even =p | 18:29 |
| wgGuest19 | i loaded the files onto linux with ftp server | 18:32 |
| wgGuest19 | how do I set the set environment from there? | 18:33 |
| nuba | dont you have a shell there? | 18:39 |
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| wgGuest19 | what is a shell ? | 18:40 |
| nuba | do you own the box, or have root privs there? | 18:40 |
| nuba | can you ssh to it, and "do stuff"? | 18:41 |
| wgGuest19 | its a student account | 18:41 |
| @apeiron | And they let you have modperl? | 18:42 |
| nuba | download the wre, read the included documentation, and check the webgui wiki | 18:42 |
| nuba | if you dont understand whats involved, you better get a hosted webgui somewhere else, | 18:42 |
| nuba | or get yourself someone to help you, someone who'll understand it | 18:43 |
| wgGuest19 | ok, thanks | 18:43 |
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| nuba | or else prepare yourself to spend some considerable amount of time experimenting with it and raising your level so that you'll understand it | 18:43 |
| nuba | oh he left already | 18:43 |
| nuba | bummer | 18:43 |
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| perlDreamer | Do I have to create a workflow to house a workflow activity that I want to test? | 19:33 |
| perlDreamer | or can I just have it standalone? | 19:33 |
| perlDreamer | oh, and SynQ, 3 out of 4 Kuskies love stroopwaffles | 19:34 |
| @rizen | for now you need a workflow | 19:34 |
| perlDreamer | and #4 is just being stubborn :) | 19:34 |
| @rizen | i'm working on a stand alone tester, but it doesn't work yet | 19:34 |
| perlDreamer | So I can't just do : MyActivity->new($session); $activity->execute() | 19:35 |
| @rizen | you can, but then you also have to do the work that the workflow engine does | 19:38 |
| @rizen | meaning create the objects that need to be passed in to execute | 19:38 |
| perlDreamer | This is deleteExpiredSessions, I may try the cheap way since it doesn't take any objects | 19:41 |
| perlDreamer | but I won't go crazy on testing the rest yet | 19:41 |
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| perlDreamer | Haarg: Contrary to our previous discussion, I'm working on merging my latest test fix back into 7.4 | 20:01 |
| perlDreamer | it should make testing 7.4 previous to release easier | 20:02 |
| perlDreamer | s/previous/prior/ | 20:02 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: colin * r4933 /WebGUI/ (2 files in 2 dirs): fix a session bug where, when using noFuss, user session scratch was not cleaned up | 20:03 |
| perlDreamer | yes, that's the one | 20:03 |
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| elnino | where do I find out what uilevel I need to give a user in order to give them a particluar wobject? | 20:13 |
| perlDreamer | short answer: this has been answered in the wiki and the forums before | 20:14 |
| perlDreamer | long answer: it's a combination of source code and WebGUI config file | 20:14 |
| @apeiron | I'm having issues getting the test for Spectre::Workflow (just checked in, you should see it once CIA wakes up) to properly return data. I'm absolutely certain there are active workflows (and the test adds one, just to be absolutely certain), because running spectre.pl --status shows them. Why am I getting an empty hashref in my test as a return from getJsonStatus? Yes, I've commented out the line that returns '{}' if no site is passe | 20:17 |
| perlDreamer | apeiron, I think you got clipped | 20:17 |
| @apeiron | perlDreamer: At which point, please? | 20:17 |
| perlDreamer | "if no site is passe" | 20:18 |
| perlDreamer | I've thought that sites may have been passe' | 20:18 |
| elnino | perlDreamer - I looked on the wiki, didn't see any there. And in the config file, it just has a list of wobject, and no uilevels in it....? | 20:18 |
| @apeiron | heh | 20:18 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: colin * r4934 /branch/WebGUI_7.4/ (6 files in 6 dirs): backport fix from trunk and document session scratch bugfix | 20:18 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: colin * r4935 /WebGUI/docs/changelog/7.x.x.txt: forward port changelog from user session scratch bugfix | 20:18 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: chrisn * r4936 /WebGUI/ (lib/Spectre/Workflow.pm t/Spectre/Workflow.t t/Spectre): | 20:18 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: Work towards having Spectre::Workflow::getJsonStatus return information about | 20:18 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: all sites, needed for munging workflow monitoring into wremonitor.pl. | 20:18 |
| @apeiron | perlDreamer: Looks like it's just missing a 'd.' | 20:19 |
| @apeiron | "Yes, I've commented out the line that returns '{}' if no site is passed." <-- that's the end of my statement | 20:19 |
| elnino | the only applicable wiki I could find was this: http://www.plainblack.com/community-wiki/ui-levels but it doesn't tell me anything about the levesl of each object. | 20:21 |
| perlDreamer | you're right. I was confusing that (form fields) with the overall UI level for the Asset. | 20:23 |
| perlDreamer | In that case, it looks like reading through the source code. | 20:23 |
| perlDreamer | the default is 1, unless specified in the definition sub | 20:24 |
| perlDreamer | or overridden in the WebGUI config file | 20:24 |
| elnino | hmm. second time you mentioned webgui config file.. Is there a special statement in there that can set the ui level? I didn't see anything there. I have 7.3.22, but was using 7.21 Maybe my config file doesn't have it because I've upgraded without changing my config file? | 20:26 |
| perlDreamer | that is possible | 20:27 |
| perlDreamer | when referred to the WebGUI config file, it always pays to read WebGUI.conf.original | 20:27 |
| elnino | so If I upgrade a user from 5 to 9 to get additional wojects, what else are they going to have access to other than the additional wobject. You mentioned form fields? - like?? | 20:28 |
| perlDreamer | some tabs in the edit forms have uiLevels that are higher than 5 | 20:29 |
| perlDreamer | additional settings like cache timeout | 20:29 |
| perlDreamer | which wobject would you like to give your content managers access to/ | 20:30 |
| elnino | I just did it the hardway.. by increasing the ui level one at a time to see when they would get the redirect wobject. I'll look in the original www config file to see if there are statements in there that I canadd to mine. Thanks! | 20:31 |
| perlDreamer | I'll work on adding a page to the wiki. | 20:35 |
| perlDreamer | If you'd like to help out, it would be great. | 20:35 |
| elnino | yep, I'm going thru all the ui's and documentingn it, so I can put in the wobject stuff in. I was going to put it up there on the ui-levels' page, but if you want to start a different page, that would be great too. | 20:36 |
| perlDreamer | http://www.plainblack.com/community-wiki/asset-ui-levels | 20:37 |
| perlDreamer | It could use some formatting help, but it's a start | 20:37 |
| perlDreamer | note, in order to get to the table, you have to edit the HTML directly | 20:38 |
| perlDreamer | the RTE table controls aren't enabled for the webgui.org wiki | 20:39 |
| elnino | that's fine. ok, I'm almost done. I suppose there may have some changees, but at least it documents 7.3.22 | 20:39 |
| elnino | alsmost done with my changing of ui's that is, I'll get to the wiki soon. | 20:39 |
| perlDreamer | :) | 20:39 |
| elnino | perldreamer. hmm, my results were different than yours... did you over ride yours? or maybe they are different between versions? I have 7.3.22 | 20:50 |
| @apeiron | apeiron-- # not realising I need to restart spectre and not just modperl when mucking with /data/WebGUI/lib/Spectre/* modules | 20:51 |
| @apeiron | Good thing is, the code that I could swear up down left right and sideways is right actually *is* right. :) | 20:52 |
| perlDreamer | elnino: I used a quick and dirty find/grep script to pull out the data. It could be wrong, but it should be double checked against the source code. | 20:54 |
| perlDreamer | which ones do you think are wrong? | 20:54 |
| perlDreamer | Also, if anyone has a non-WRE WebGUI running on Suse, debian or Ubuntu, I'd love to see what you think of this bug: http://www.plainblack.com/bugs/tracker/failing-sql_t-test-in-nightly-smoke-tests#SETlh5pZ68XBr7GrgqmPeQ | 20:55 |
| * perlDreamer goes away for a while for lunch | 20:58 |
| perlDreamer | bbl | 20:58 |
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| elnino | I posted mine under a different column, in case your's was a different version. i'm assuming you have 7.4.x Everyone else is welcome to correct our info! | 21:10 |
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| CIA-18 | WebGUI: chrisn * r4937 /WebGUI/ (lib/Spectre/Workflow.pm t/Spectre/Workflow.t): | 21:33 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: Fixups for the tests. I moved the nested key checking into a TODO block. I'm | 21:33 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: not sure how to handle them, as they may / may not exist in the %output hash. | 21:33 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: Sometimes they'll pass, sometimes they won't, depending upon the time you run | 21:33 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: it and the status of Spectre overall. | 21:33 |
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| perlDreamer | apeiron, in your ref checks, try using ref_ok or isa_ok | 23:09 |
| perlDreamer | they will save you a lot of typing :) | 23:10 |
| @apeiron | perlDreamer++ Ah, okay, thanks. :) | 23:10 |
| perlDreamer | I've been learning tons from O'Reilly's Perl Test Developers book. I highly recommend it. | 23:11 |
| @apeiron | Ooh, the Developer's Notebook one? | 23:11 |
| perlDreamer | Yeah, by Ian Langworth and chromatic | 23:11 |
| @apeiron | Sounds good. I'll need to check into it. Thanks for the reminder. :) | 23:12 |
| perlDreamer | It's cool to see some spectre tests. I'm glad you're writing them. | 23:13 |
| perlDreamer | I hacked together a crude Workflow Activity test today, for deleteExpiredSessions to fix a bug found by mlamar | 23:14 |
| @preaction | you could build a WebGUI::Test::Maker for workflow activities, just throwing that out there | 23:15 |
| @preaction | one for Macros would probably be nice too | 23:15 |
| perlDreamer | I'll look into that. | 23:16 |
| perlDreamer | It will give me a reason to use that and really learn how it works. | 23:16 |
| @preaction | it's almost stupidly simple, but that's why it's awesome ;) | 23:16 |
| perlDreamer | apeiron, Test::Deep may be a good read, too. | 23:17 |
| perlDreamer | It's nice for easily validating data structures. | 23:17 |
| @apeiron | hmm. | 23:17 |
| @preaction | is_deeply works, no? | 23:17 |
| perlDreamer | yes, but it's kind of like hatchets instead of chain saws for cutting down trees | 23:18 |
| @preaction | ahh | 23:18 |
| @preaction | i've been using is_deeply to compare arrays or hashes mostly, nothing truly complex yet | 23:18 |
| perlDreamer | Once you move up to objects, it will help a lot. | 23:18 |
| perlDreamer | This hash key contains an array ref which may not contains any words like foo | 23:19 |
| @preaction | automatically sorts and does fun stuff like that? kind of like Storable::canonical? | 23:19 |
| @preaction | ooooooh | 23:19 |
| perlDreamer | yeah | 23:19 |
| perlDreamer | have a look at t/DatabaseLink.t | 23:20 |
| perlDreamer | near the create bank of tests for a cmp_deeply call | 23:21 |
| perlDreamer | I also like using it just for the nice diagnostics when simple data structures fail. | 23:22 |
| perlDreamer | is_deeply stops at the first difference | 23:22 |
| perlDreamer | cmp_deeply goes the next mile and checks the whole structure and tells you what's extra and/or missing | 23:23 |
| @apeiron | If I'm going to send email on behalf of WebGUI for an automated process (like, say, a monitor application), is there a method I can call to get a 'from' email address, like, say, the site administrator or something? | 23:26 |
| @preaction | $session->config->get("companyEmail") i think | 23:28 |
| @preaction | it's something in the settings, not config | 23:28 |
| @preaction | so session->settings->get | 23:29 |
| @apeiron | Ah, thank you. | 23:29 |
| @preaction | it should be that From by default though | 23:29 |
| @apeiron | (intelligent design)++ | 23:30 |
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| perlDreamer | So.... | 00:53 |
| perlDreamer | I noticed that my WRE bug hasn't been fixed yet. | 00:53 |
| perlDreamer | What are you guys doing, trying to work for a living? ;) | 00:53 |
| @preaction | s/to/to avoid/ | 00:57 |
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| @apeiron | A bit old, but nonetheless awesome: http://perlbuzz.com/project-hum/2007/10/perl-5100-nears-code-freeze-release.html | 01:02 |
| perlDreamer | Do we know when the WRE will upgrade to 5.10? | 01:06 |
| perlDreamer | or, if? | 01:06 |
| perlDreamer | Warnock applies... | 01:14 |
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| @apeiron | perlDreamer: Should've asked during the WUC. :) | 01:39 |
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| CIA-18 | WebGUI: colin * r4938 /WebGUI/t/Session/Url.t: begin converting Session/Url.t to PseudoRequest | 01:48 |
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| BartJol | Hi Radix | 15:26 |
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| CIA-18 | WebGUI: dionak * r4939 /WebGUI/lib/WebGUI/Operation/User.pm: If there are over 250 users, none are currently displayed. Added message to user in this case. | 22:48 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: dionak * r4940 /WebGUI/docs/changelog/7.x.x.txt: Added operation user rfe doc to changelog | 23:03 |
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| @apeiron | meh. itunes declared DRM-crippled. | 23:19 |
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| +MrHairgrease | hey rizen | 17:08 |
| +MrHairgrease | do you have time to think along a bit? | 17:08 |
| @rizen | i have 4 minutes before I have to leave the house. | 17:09 |
| @rizen | can you think that quickly? | 17:09 |
| +MrHairgrease | prolly not | 17:09 |
| @rizen | if so, i'm all yours | 17:09 |
| +MrHairgrease | i'll write something on the dev list | 17:09 |
| @rizen | ok. | 17:10 |
| @rizen | sorry | 17:10 |
| +MrHairgrease | it has to do with the Post/Thread thing | 17:10 |
| +MrHairgrease | no problem | 17:10 |
| +MrHairgrease | it's your weekend too =) | 17:10 |
| @rizen | ok, yeah, throw it out there and i'll read and respond later | 17:10 |
| +MrHairgrease | ok | 17:10 |
| +MrHairgrease | thanks | 17:10 |
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| wgGuest51 | Hello, anyone out there. I'm dhelsten and have been on irc a couple times. I'm having difficulty troubleshooting a problem with my site. | 22:17 |
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| wgGuest51 | The site was working fine, but about a week ago it began showing an awstats error page instead of the site. I can still reach the site by typing the IP address. | 22:20 |
| wgGuest51 | I'm on Ubuntu 6.06 and WRE 0.7.2 with WG version 7.4.11. | 22:22 |
| wgGuest51 | The domain access logs have only activity from wremonitor and when I access the site using the ip address. | 22:29 |
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| bartjol | xootom? | 15:31 |
| bartjol | already some luck with your useresonline macro? | 15:31 |
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| xootom | bartjol, no i had spectre problems recently and have had too many other things to do, but i will be back on track this week | 16:16 |
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| SDuensin | Greetings. | 18:21 |
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| bartjol | hi Sduensin | 18:42 |
| bartjol | bye | 18:42 |
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| CIA-18 | WebGUI: chrisn * r4942 /WebGUI/ (lib/Spectre/Workflow.pm t/Spectre/Workflow.t): (log message trimmed) | 19:03 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: Lots of fixes. | 19:03 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: 1. Restore original getJsonStatus functionality of returning data for just one | 19:03 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: site, if sitename is passed. | 19:03 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: 2. Add a few comments to Spectre::Workflow::getJsonStatus to help explain what's | 19:03 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: going on, and also add some whitespace to separate the code into logical pieces. | 19:03 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: 3. Add tests for this functionality, doubling the number of tests for | 19:03 |
| @apeiron | CIA-18, I added more than three fixes! grr. | 19:05 |
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| CIA-18 | WebGUI: jt * r4943 /wrebuild/wre/ (5 files in 3 dirs): added the wre upgrade system, and the first upgrade to 0.8.1 | 20:03 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: jt * r4944 /wrebuild/wre/ (docs/changelog.txt t/File.t): Added more WRE::File tests. (William McKee / Knowmad) | 20:18 |
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| CIA-18 | WebGUI: chrisn * r4945 /WebGUI/ (lib/Spectre/Workflow.pm t/Spectre/Workflow.t): Fix backwards compatability with existing code. Update the tests accordingly. | 22:18 |
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| CIA-18 | WebGUI: jt * r4946 /wrebuild/wre/ (docs/changelog.txt sbin/wreconsole.pl): fix: Can't install with non-default MySQL User on Windows | 00:18 |
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| CIA-18 | WebGUI: graham * r4947 /WebGUI/ (2 files in 2 dirs): fix EMS in IE with reset style | 00:48 |
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| CIA-18 | WebGUI: graham * r4948 /branch/ (3 files in 3 dirs): | 01:03 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: Merged revisions 4947 via svnmerge from | 01:03 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: https://svn.webgui.org/plainblack/WebGUI | 01:03 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: ........ | 01:03 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: r4947 | graham | 2007-11-05 16:32:37 -0600 (Mon, 05 Nov 2007) | 2 lines | 01:03 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: fix EMS in IE with reset style | 01:03 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: ........ | 01:03 |
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| CIA-18 | WebGUI: doug * r4949 /branch/photogallery/WebGUI/ (5 files in 4 dirs): more work. completed GalleryAlbum. started Gallery. | 06:33 |
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| dapperedodo | Is the webgui.org site down? | 09:12 |
| +Radix-wrk | Hmm.. seems like it | 09:12 |
| +Radix-wrk | plainblack.com too | 09:13 |
| +Radix-wrk | must just be that server tho.. demo.plainblack.com is up | 09:14 |
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| +Radix-wrk | It's all bob's fault! | 09:17 |
| dapperedodo | That must be the case:) | 09:17 |
| +Radix-wrk | So how was the WUC this year? good fun? | 09:18 |
| dapperedodo | yes, Madison is not so bad after all | 09:19 |
| dapperedodo | And there are a lot of new features coming | 09:19 |
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| +Radix-wrk | Cool - whoever the photographer was (s)he liked you guys - lots of photos of you, martin, koen and bart :) | 09:19 |
| +Radix-wrk | http://www.plainblack.com/uploads/y6/wE/y6wEOm2ctrVKWAt9ihAR0w/WUC-2007---10-17-07-111.jpg | 09:19 |
| +Radix-wrk | If pb.com was up then you'd be able to see that link :) | 09:19 |
| +Radix-wrk | preaction: you to blame for webgui.org and plainblack.com being dead? :) | 09:20 |
| @preaction | no | 09:20 |
| +Radix-wrk | So it WAS bob! | 09:20 |
| @preaction | that jerk, making me wake up at 1:20AM | 09:20 |
| * Radix-wrk pokes AMH_bob, saying "Cmon, no fun teasing you if you don't respond!" | 09:25 |
| dapperedodo | I think he is still waking up with a nice cup of coffee | 09:26 |
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| AMH_bob | Yep, I'm back and you better not blame me! | 10:05 |
| AMH_bob | Hi preaction, midnight movies again? | 10:06 |
| @preaction | not so much, babysitting support tickets | 10:06 |
| AMH_bob | In the middle of the night? | 10:08 |
| @preaction | not plainblack support, plainblack.com is down | 10:11 |
| @preaction | er... was down until 10 seconds ago | 10:11 |
| AMH_bob | Hmmmm, great - I had that friday night, I had to get op at 4am and lost quite a bit of sleep... | 10:17 |
| AMH_bob | But the shift is on to the next guy now and I back to a full nights sleep! | 10:20 |
| @preaction | lucky git. i think that was proposed, but it was just JT and I for a few months over the summer, and it remains us now | 10:24 |
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| CIA-18 | WebGUI: chrisn * r4950 /wrebuild/wre/ (sbin/wremonitor.pl lib/WRE/Spectre.pm): | 18:33 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: Add service-specific monitoring hooks for the four monitored aspects of the | 18:33 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: WRE, starting with Spectre. Stubs are in place for the other three and can be | 18:33 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: extended in similar fashion. | 18:33 |
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| wgGuest58 | hello folks | 22:41 |
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| polar_action | anyone in? | 22:41 |
| +MrHairgrease | only if it's a quicky =) | 22:47 |
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| wgGuest44 | sry | 22:51 |
| wgGuest44 | dunno what happened there | 22:51 |
| wgGuest44 | missed any answer | 22:52 |
| +MrHairgrease | what was the question? | 22:52 |
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| polar_action1 | polar_action question above :o) | 22:52 |
| +MrHairgrease | you mean: 'anyone in?' | 22:53 |
| +MrHairgrease | well obviously =) | 22:53 |
| +MrHairgrease | well have to go afk | 22:55 |
| +MrHairgrease | post your question and maybe i can answer it later | 22:55 |
| polar_action1 | in the forum you mean??? | 22:55 |
| polar_action1 | ta | 22:55 |
| polar_action1 | thanks... | 22:55 |
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| wgGuest70 | any ideas how i can manually restart the spectre service in windows xp? | 00:37 |
| wgGuest70 | i try the restart/start button in the console but i get the message, that the service had already started | 00:37 |
| +Radix_ | restart windows? :) | 00:39 |
| +Radix_ | the three R's of Microsoft tech support - retry, reboot, reinstall | 00:39 |
| wgGuest70 | yeah.. i've done that a few times :o) | 00:41 |
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| CIA-18 | WebGUI: chrisn * r4951 /WebGUI/ (5 files in 5 dirs): | 01:18 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: Add the groupToEditPost field to the Collaboration system. This allows users | 01:18 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: to specify a group of users that will always be able to do edits on posts, | 01:18 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: regardless of whether they own those posts and independent of the editTimeout | 01:18 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: field. | 01:18 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: chrisn * r4952 /WebGUI/t/Asset/ (Post.t Wobject/Collaboration.t): | 01:18 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: Don't delete the groups used in the Post test, they're needed. May want to make | 01:18 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: mock groups in the future. Also clean up some commented out things from | 01:18 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: Collaboration.t. | 01:18 |
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| elnino | hi. | 01:41 |
| elnino | I have to approve commited versions, and I can't seem to figure ou how to view their changes. When I go to view the revision, the lock icon is there, so I can't view the changes to the asset's properties. Am I missing something? | 01:42 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: chrisn * r4953 /WebGUI/docs/upgrades/upgrade_7.4.12-7.5.0.pl: duh. Need to *call* the sub I added to the upgrade script. | 01:48 |
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| @preaction | elnino, go to your inbox, you'll see the message that new content awaits your approval, you'll be able to peruse it from there | 02:15 |
| elnino | Hi. Thanks for the response. That is where I've gone to view revision, and I see the page, but the changes she made were in the properties of the page layout, but I couldn't view them, because the lock icon was there in place of the edit button. | 02:17 |
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| dionak | i have a navigation element that is intended to show sub pages of a site, for instance a left nav element. i want to only show items in each sub area. how do i configure the nav asset to do this? | 05:26 |
| dionak | i've tried several settings and am not getting what i want | 05:27 |
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| polar_action | hello, is anyone alive in here? | 13:20 |
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| +Radix_ | no | 14:05 |
| polar_action | me either :o) | 14:06 |
| polar_action | im wondering if you know how to setup a simple comparison matrix example, or can point me to a help page somewhere? | 14:07 |
| +Radix_ | Never used the matrix I'm afraid | 14:07 |
| +Radix_ | I assume there's nothing in the wiki about it? | 14:07 |
| polar_action | nope :o( | 14:08 |
| polar_action | i have a matrix with some products, but don't know how to link that to any data.. | 14:09 |
| +Radix_ | not much I can suggest really.. cept play with it until you sus it out | 14:09 |
| polar_action | yeah... thats what im up to | 14:09 |
| +Radix_ | use the demo.plainblack.com site to mess around with it perhaps | 14:09 |
| +Radix_ | if you don't want to mess up your own site | 14:09 |
| +Radix_ | I know cmsmatrix.org is built using it | 14:10 |
| polar_action | will do.. i hadn;t seen that. thanks | 14:10 |
| polar_action | yeah.. it was one of the guys on the compare sites that recommended it | 14:10 |
| polar_action | its just documentation for demo users like myslef is a bit scarce | 14:10 |
| polar_action | thanks anyway.. out for lunch but will be back later... | 14:11 |
| polar_action | if anyone else in here knows about the "matrix", please get in touch, thanks :o) | 14:11 |
| +Radix_ | Yeah, well might be worth picking up the content managers guide from PB then - worthwhile having for newbies and helps PB too | 14:12 |
| bartjol | > Polar action I have an old WebGUI version, 7.3.22, which contains some information on the matrix (it's still includsed in the help) | 14:21 |
| bartjol | I can print it to pdf and email them to you | 14:22 |
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| SDuensin | Greetings. | 15:52 |
| bartjol | hi | 16:42 |
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| polar_action | hi bartjol | 16:46 |
| polar_action | that would be smashing if you could do that | 16:47 |
| polar_action | if you are there!!! | 16:47 |
| * polar_action just notices the time message was left at :o) | 16:47 |
| bartjol | I'm still here | 16:51 |
| polar_action | pheww :o) | 16:51 |
| bartjol | :) | 16:51 |
| bartjol | it's your lucky day | 16:52 |
| polar_action | it sure is!! email addy is polar_action@hotmail.com | 16:52 |
| polar_action | ive been stuggling through all the options and just don't seem to "get it" | 16:52 |
| bartjol | well, i will be printing for a while then | 16:53 |
| polar_action | :o) | 16:53 |
| bartjol | sending.... | 17:00 |
| bartjol | mind that it is for another version, so changes might occur | 17:01 |
| polar_action | ok. many thanks | 17:07 |
| bartjol | good luck | 17:07 |
| polar_action | im just trying to do something really simple like a really simplified version of http://www.comparecanines.com/ | 17:07 |
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| bartjol | ah, ok well that should be possible, but some help files are usefull | 17:09 |
| bartjol | never tried it myself though | 17:09 |
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| polar_action | here i go!! | 17:14 |
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| perlDreamer | Is there a release going out today? | 19:29 |
| perlDreamer | I was thinking of fixing a bug this morning, but don't want to booger anything up | 19:29 |
| perlDreamer | for y'all | 19:29 |
| @khenn | I'm not sure. I think JT is out. Graham might be doing a release. He's in IRC but might be busy | 19:30 |
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| perlDreamer | Haarg: ping | 19:35 |
| perlDreamer | wake up! | 19:35 |
| @Haarg | ? | 19:35 |
| @Haarg | oh | 19:35 |
| perlDreamer | release today? or is it safe to fix bugs this morning? | 19:35 |
| @Haarg | safe to fix bugs | 19:35 |
| perlDreamer | thanks, man! | 19:35 |
| @Haarg | i want to get a few more in before pushing the release | 19:35 |
| perlDreamer | what would be a good deadline for me? | 19:36 |
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| perlDreamer | I may not have spare time until this afternoon | 19:36 |
| @Haarg | 5pm central i guess | 19:36 |
| perlDreamer | I'll do what I can | 19:37 |
| perlDreamer | If there's any big changes, please email me | 19:37 |
| @Haarg | sure | 19:37 |
| perlDreamer | $dayJob is deciding whether or not IRC is legal to use | 19:37 |
| perlDreamer | grrrrrr | 19:37 |
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| CIA-18 | WebGUI: graham * r4954 /WebGUI/lib/WebGUI/Asset/Wobject/Collaboration.pm: copy CS sorting fix from branch | 19:48 |
| polar_action | hi folks | 20:24 |
| polar_action | i've started a demo webgui and see it lasts for a day... but is that 24 full hours?? or does it get binned at midnight? | 20:25 |
| polar_action | anyone know? | 20:25 |
| +MrHairgrease | dunno | 20:25 |
| @Haarg | 24 hours | 20:25 |
| +MrHairgrease | you had a question yesterday right? | 20:26 |
| +MrHairgrease | is it solved yet? | 20:26 |
| polar_action | yeah, thanks MrHair | 20:28 |
| +MrHairgrease | ok | 20:28 |
| +MrHairgrease | good | 20:29 |
| polar_action | im such a n00b, and missed a section in the forums | 20:29 |
| polar_action | thanks Haarg | 20:29 |
| polar_action | also, is it possible to export the data from the demo, to my installation? | 20:29 |
| +MrHairgrease | dunno what you're doing | 20:30 |
| +MrHairgrease | but the way to do that is to make a package of your asset | 20:30 |
| +MrHairgrease | export that | 20:30 |
| +MrHairgrease | and import in your other site | 20:30 |
| +MrHairgrease | you can make a package of asset by editing them | 20:30 |
| +MrHairgrease | going to the misc tab | 20:30 |
| +MrHairgrease | and set make package to yes | 20:30 |
| +MrHairgrease | misc tab = metadata tab | 20:31 |
| polar_action | cool.. i'll give it a try | 20:31 |
| +MrHairgrease | to export it the package | 20:32 |
| +MrHairgrease | go to the asset manager | 20:32 |
| +MrHairgrease | it'll be somewhere at the bottom of the page | 20:32 |
| +MrHairgrease | use the export button to actually export is | 20:32 |
| +MrHairgrease | importing again is also done through the asset manager | 20:32 |
| polar_action | i;ll give it a go once ive finalised my matrix | 20:36 |
| polar_action | thanks for the help | 20:36 |
| +MrHairgrease | ok | 20:36 |
| +MrHairgrease | np | 20:36 |
| polar_action | oh!! last question, i promise (for now)... | 20:41 |
| polar_action | how can i edit the default colors that were set at installation? | 20:42 |
| +MrHairgrease | you mean with the site starter? | 20:42 |
| polar_action | yes, i think so | 20:43 |
| +MrHairgrease | checking it out right now | 20:43 |
| polar_action | im not going to get into templates and stuff just now... only if the client likes the matrix | 20:43 |
| +MrHairgrease | hold on | 20:43 |
| polar_action | and if they do i'll invest in the documentation! | 20:43 |
| +MrHairgrease | hmm | 20:44 |
| +MrHairgrease | dunno | 20:44 |
| +MrHairgrease | it's pretty new | 20:44 |
| +MrHairgrease | and I have never used it | 20:44 |
| polar_action | :o) so thats good. It's not just me :oD | 20:44 |
| +MrHairgrease | sure | 20:44 |
| +MrHairgrease | i guess it just writes out some css to a snippet or so | 20:44 |
| +MrHairgrease | yeah | 20:45 |
| polar_action | yeah.. no doubt.. but im only 1 day into using this so it'll take some time for me to figure | 20:45 |
| +MrHairgrease | my-style.css | 20:45 |
| polar_action | and on the demo that'll not be available :o( | 20:45 |
| polar_action | oh well.. no worries.. i'll do that stuff on my own installation 2morrow | 20:46 |
| polar_action | once again, thanks MrH | 20:46 |
| +MrHairgrease | ok do this | 20:46 |
| +MrHairgrease | you can edit the css file like this | 20:46 |
| +MrHairgrease | add the following to the gateway of your site | 20:46 |
| +MrHairgrease | so on demo that would be after the demp123_etc/ part | 20:47 |
| +MrHairgrease | /root/import/my-style.css?func=edit | 20:47 |
| +MrHairgrease | be sure to be logged in as admin | 20:47 |
| +MrHairgrease | dunno how to get the site starter interface back (if at all possible) | 20:47 |
| +MrHairgrease | good luck | 20:48 |
| polar_action | thanks.. it turns out that the some matrix stuff is embedded html and not in the mystyle.css, | 20:51 |
| polar_action | its not that important just now | 20:51 |
| polar_action | cheers | 20:52 |
| +MrHairgrease | heh that's funny | 20:52 |
| +MrHairgrease | i was just about to go out and grab a couple of beers =) | 20:52 |
| polar_action | go and get the beers :o) | 20:53 |
| polar_action | im done for this evening anyway | 20:53 |
| +MrHairgrease | thanks for the advice | 20:54 |
| +MrHairgrease | sound quite sound | 20:54 |
| +MrHairgrease | i'll be off then | 20:54 |
| +MrHairgrease | later | 20:54 |
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| CIA-18 | WebGUI: graham * r4955 /WebGUI/ (2 files in 2 dirs): fix backslash doubling on ical import | 21:03 |
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| -!- wgGuest63 is now known as XSLord | 21:12 |
| XSLord | hello everyone! | 21:12 |
| XSLord | i have just came across WebGUI (weel 2b honest a couple of weeks ago) | 21:13 |
| XSLord | at the moment i am testing/evaluating joomla, drupal, silverstripe and also wordpress | 21:14 |
| XSLord | webgui looks quite promising, the downside is that it doesn't look like you could installed on an hosting (like joomla, drupal, etc...) | 21:16 |
| XSLord | still i would like to know is there any chance that there will be such a version? | 21:16 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: graham * r4956 /branch/ (3 files in 3 dirs): | 21:18 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: Merged revisions 4955 via svnmerge from | 21:18 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: https://svn.webgui.org/plainblack/WebGUI | 21:18 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: ........ | 21:18 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: r4955 | graham | 2007-11-07 12:53:40 -0600 (Wed, 07 Nov 2007) | 2 lines | 21:18 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: fix backslash doubling on ical import | 21:18 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: ........ | 21:18 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: colin * r4957 /branch/WebGUI_7.4/docs/ (changelog/7.x.x.txt upgrades/upgrade_7.4.12-7.4.13.pl): remove old Events Calendar templates | 21:48 |
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| perlDreamer | Haarg: I'm having some problems merging in the upgrade file. Any suggestions? | 21:55 |
| perlDreamer | merging from branch back to trunk, that is | 21:55 |
| @Haarg | hmm | 21:56 |
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| @Haarg | that's a bit wierd, because the upgrade script will be copied into the trunk | 21:57 |
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| elnino | Hi. anyone out there know anything about having japanese or chinese webpages? Do I have to install fonts or something on my linux machine? | 21:57 |
| perlDreamer | Haarg: maybe I should merge just the upgrade script | 21:58 |
| perlDreamer | in any case, if you don't see it in trunk when you tape out, I'm still having problems :) | 21:58 |
| @Haarg | well, i'll be copying the branch upgrade script to trunk, after the upgrade anyway | 21:59 |
| perlDreamer | I'll let you do it then. That way we won't be stepping on each others toes. | 22:00 |
| elnino | anyone out there experinced in any multi language sites and using webgui? | 22:43 |
| elnino | does webgui support UTF-8 Unicode? | 22:43 |
| perlDreamer | I think you can set the encoding in your templates. | 23:16 |
| perlDreamer | I'd recommend looking in the forums, or perhaps digging into one of the non-american | 23:17 |
| perlDreamer | WebGUI sites, like oqapi.nl, or procolix.com | 23:17 |
| elnino | hi perldreamer. after reading some more, my linux machine is utf, which I get the impression that that is a prerequisite. I searched the forums for utf and unicode with not much luck. I'll look some more. | 23:26 |
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| nutrino | any documentation on updating my puggable auth module to work with the new Auth.pm? for cross domain state, and whatever new stuff was introduced lately | 00:18 |
| nutrino | if not i can pry just make the module again based on the new Auth.pm | 00:20 |
| nutrino | uh oh. | 00:36 |
| nutrino | tried to revert back and im still seeing the error. | 00:36 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: chrisn * r4958 /WebGUI/ (2 files in 2 dirs): | 00:48 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: Fix the groupToEditPost field defaulting to the groupIdEdit field. Make sure | 00:48 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: that the added collab system in the test has a parent asset as well, to ensure | 00:48 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: that the inheritance works properly. | 00:48 |
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| nutrino | Where is the password change form? | 01:48 |
| nutrino | nvm , found the script | 01:50 |
| nutrino | had to set a static login for my users. man im ashamed. | 01:52 |
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| +perlDreamer | Any news on the release? Did it go okay? | 06:56 |
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| +perlDreamer | are there any non-bot people awake? | 06:58 |
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| +Radix-wrk | pd: no | 07:08 |
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| perlDreame1 | no, you're not awake, or no, no news on the release? | 07:23 |
| perlDreame1 | You australians confuse me! | 07:23 |
| perlDreame1 | irc seems a little touchy tonight | 07:24 |
| +Radix-wrk | It's 2.30pm here :) | 07:28 |
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| +Radix-wrk | and no, was whether there were any non-bot people awake :) | 07:28 |
| perlDreame1 | How was your sabbatical? | 07:35 |
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| perlDreame1 | preaction: ping | 07:47 |
| @preaction | sup | 07:47 |
| perlDreame1 | No release today? | 07:47 |
| @preaction | dunno, not my department anymore | 07:47 |
| perlDreame1 | What, you guys don't talk anymore? :) | 07:47 |
| perlDreame1 | I found a bad Help bug and fixed it. | 07:48 |
| @preaction | not much, i've got a one-track goal: Gallery | 07:48 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: colin * r4959 /WebGUI/ (5 files in 5 dirs): fix bad import of help template variables. Loops are now handled correctly. Added a test with supporting collateral to make sure this does not happen again | 07:48 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: colin * r4960 /branch/WebGUI_7.4/ (5 files in 5 dirs): backport Help variable fix from trunk | 07:48 |
| perlDreame1 | yup, that's the one | 07:48 |
| perlDreame1 | thanks CIA-18 | 07:48 |
| @preaction | maybe graham's waiting for a bit yet | 07:49 |
| perlDreame1 | I'll send Haarg an email. | 07:49 |
| @preaction | we've got strange sleep cycles around here, i don't know his at all | 07:49 |
| @preaction | and we're having a meeting tomorrow, so he's gotta be up 9-5, so i dunno what he's doing for that | 07:49 |
| perlDreame1 | ok | 07:51 |
| perlDreame1 | well, there are no release commits or forum posts, so maybe I made it in under the deadline. | 07:52 |
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| +Radix-wrk | Sounds like it may be changed tomorrow anyway.. but until then! :) | 08:39 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: graham * r4961 /WebGUI/ (docs/changelog/7.x.x.txt lib/WebGUI/Asset/Wobject/SQLForm.pm): fix missing field_loop in SQL Form template | 08:48 |
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| XSLord | hi everyone! | 13:19 |
| XSLord | is there anyone would be so kind to give an answer on a question on WbGUI i've got? | 13:20 |
| AMH_bob | Just give it a go, just be sure enough to wait and see if someone shows up who has the right answer | 13:23 |
| AMH_bob | (that could take a while...) | 13:23 |
| AMH_bob | :P | 13:23 |
| AMH_bob | @XSLord: I'm not kidding, just ask your question and wait a while, you most surely will get an answer. | 14:44 |
| +Radix_ | I agree with Bob.. ask.. and be patient and you'll be rewarded :) | 15:05 |
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| nutrino | Would preload.custom expect the directory my pluggable auth module resides in? | 15:19 |
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| CIA-18 | WebGUI: graham * r4962 /branch/ (3 files in 3 dirs): | 16:18 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: Merged revisions 4961 via svnmerge from | 16:18 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: https://svn.webgui.org/plainblack/WebGUI | 16:18 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: ........ | 16:18 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: r4961 | graham | 2007-11-08 00:33:40 -0600 (Thu, 08 Nov 2007) | 2 lines | 16:18 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: fix missing field_loop in SQL Form template | 16:18 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: ........ | 16:18 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: graham * r4963 /branch/WebGUI_7.4/docs/create.sql: preparing for 7.4.13 release | 16:18 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: jt * r4964 /releases/WebGUI_7.4.13-stable: Release 7.4.13-stable | 16:18 |
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| CIA-18 | WebGUI: graham * r4965 /branch/WebGUI_7.4/ (4 files in 4 dirs): preparing for 7.4.14 dev | 16:33 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: graham * r4966 /WebGUI/docs/ (4 files in 2 dirs): merging 7.4 changes | 16:33 |
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| nutrino | phew | 17:04 |
| nutrino | fixed my issue by upgrading CGI.pm | 17:04 |
| nutrino | all signs pointed to that being the issue anyway. | 17:04 |
| nutrino | but why would CGI.pm break during an upgrade??? | 17:05 |
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| @apeiron | For the PIRG work that I'm doing (groupToEditPost field for CSs), do they have a dev server set up where I can apply the patch, or is there some other way they want me to provide this to them? | 18:26 |
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| @apeiron | Crap, boss's here, gotta look like we're working! | 18:44 |
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| CIA-29 | WebGUI: colin * r4967 /WebGUI/docs/changelog/7.x.x.txt: forward change notice for earlier commit about removing old templates | 20:18 |
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| CIA-29 | WebGUI: chrisn * r4968 /WebGUI/lib/WebGUI/Asset/Wobject/Collaboration.pm: Gr. One more attempt at getting the default to work properly. | 21:48 |
| @apeiron | hmph. CIA jumped from -18 last night to -29 this afternoon. | 21:49 |
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| CIA-29 | WebGUI: graham * r4969 /WebGUI/ (docs/changelog/7.x.x.txt lib/WebGUI/Form/File.pm): fix CS posts not allowing new attachments after deleting old ones | 01:03 |
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| CIA-29 | WebGUI: dionak * r4970 /WebGUI/lib/WebGUI/Operation/Group.pm: Adding message if group count exceeds 250 | 07:33 |
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| AMH_bob | Greetings. | 16:11 |
| SDuensin | Hey AMH_bob | 16:12 |
| AMH_bob | Hi SDuensin: No Greetings today? | 16:12 |
| SDuensin | Greetings! | 16:13 |
| +MrHairgrease | Greetings! | 16:13 |
| AMH_bob | Grrrrrrreat! | 16:16 |
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| wgGuest13 | When you create a pagelayout, must the namespace be left blank? | 16:49 |
| AMH_bob | No, you can fill in an URL kind of path | 17:04 |
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| CIA-29 | WebGUI: colin * r4971 /WebGUI/lib/WebGUI/ (Operation/Group.pm i18n/English/WebGUI.pm): internationalized the high group count message | 18:18 |
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| nutrino | is there a template variable to return true if a user is logged in? | 20:52 |
| AMH_henry | There's a User macro. maybe you can use that to determine whether user is logged in | 20:56 |
| nutrino | yah, the one that returns a user name | 20:56 |
| nutrino | i guess i could check to see if that is empty | 20:56 |
| AMH_henry | according to the doc, you can get any profile field | 20:57 |
| nutrino | cool | 20:57 |
| AMH_henry | btw, username won't be empty. it will be visitor i think | 20:57 |
| nutrino | ok | 20:57 |
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| CIA-29 | WebGUI: colin * r4972 /WebGUI/ (lib/WebGUI/Session/Url.pm t/Session/Url.t): | 23:33 |
| CIA-29 | WebGUI: Start adding coverage to the getBackToSiteURL method. | 23:33 |
| CIA-29 | WebGUI: Remove the old commented out MockObject request code. It's PseudoRequest or bust. | 23:33 |
| CIA-29 | WebGUI: WGBP indent some of the Session/Url methods. | 23:33 |
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| perlDreamer | MrHairGrease: ping | 23:41 |
| perlDreamer | Art thou awake, oh European uber-hacker? | 23:41 |
| @apeiron | überhacker | 23:43 |
| perlDreamer | You're correct, of course. But finch may yack on special characters. | 23:43 |
| @apeiron | ooh, text mode. | 23:44 |
| perlDreamer | the lengths one must resort to to get on IRC | 23:44 |
| nuba | apeiron: that comes as überhacker here | 23:44 |
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| @apeiron | nuba, Should, my setup is AFAICT proper UTF-8. | 23:45 |
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| perlDreamer | well, let me ask the question generally and see what pops up. | 23:45 |
| nuba | mine isnt :) | 23:45 |
| perlDreamer | the SQL.t test needs to ask the database whether or not it has InnoDb installed in order | 23:45 |
| perlDreamer | to run tests on WebGUI's transaction handling. | 23:45 |
| perlDreamer | any ideas how to do that? | 23:45 |
| @apeiron | hmm | 23:46 |
| perlDreamer | that's why the smoke tests are failing in one place, btw | 23:46 |
| @apeiron | I'd try looking at whether you can query for it with SQL. | 23:46 |
| perlDreamer | I could try the MySQL dev site. | 23:46 |
| nuba | query is SHOW VARIABLES | 23:54 |
| nuba | or SHOW GLOBAL VARIABLES | 23:54 |
| nuba | or SHOW SESSION VARIABLES | 23:54 |
| nuba | depends on your mysql version | 23:54 |
| nuba | look for have_innodb | 23:54 |
| @apeiron | nuba++ | 23:54 |
| nuba | thx | 23:54 |
| nuba | does that actually give me some karma in webgui.org? | 23:55 |
| @apeiron | perlbot, karma nuba | 23:55 |
| perlbot | Karma for nuba: 1 | 23:55 |
| @apeiron | Not quite. | 23:55 |
| nuba | that'd be nice | 23:55 |
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| nuba | actually i can envision a future where this channel becomes a karma trading place | 23:56 |
| nuba | people coming from all around and trading features for karma etc | 23:56 |
| nuba | :) | 23:56 |
| elnino | hi. I have a cs system with "committ with approval" but their posts are coming thru automatically without need of approval. is this a bug, or a misunderstanding on my part? The peopel posting have edit permission and posting permissions to the cs. I'm using 7.3.22 | 23:56 |
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| perlDreamer | SHOW ENGINES is good, too, but I like nuba's solution better | 00:07 |
| perlDreamer | show global variables where Variable_name='have_innodb'; | 00:07 |
| perlDreamer | nuba: we'd need a bot that can talk to spectre, plus a custom workflow or 2 | 00:09 |
| perlDreamer | that would work | 00:09 |
| +MrHairgrease | elnino did you copmmit your version tag? | 00:23 |
| +MrHairgrease | else i dunno | 00:23 |
| +MrHairgrease | pd: pong | 00:24 |
| +MrHairgrease | but your question is answered already i presume | 00:24 |
| elnino | no, when the person saves the post, it doesn't get put into a version tag, it goes right thru. The site settings is set to "approval with commit" as well. I tried this myself, and the post goes immediately through. My understanding is that the way my settings are, that the new post should be manually approved right? Even if the poster is allowed edit permissions? | 00:25 |
| perlDreamer | MrHairGrease: that is so | 00:27 |
| +MrHairgrease | no i mean the version tag in which your cs is | 00:27 |
| +MrHairgrease | you chang the approval workflow | 00:28 |
| +MrHairgrease | after that you'll have to commit the change | 00:28 |
| @preaction | elnino, the collab system doesn't use the site's setting. you have to go to the security tab of the CS configuration to change the workflow it uses | 00:28 |
| @preaction | i believe that you should submit an RFE to have the "default" approval workflow for CSes be the site's default workflow (instead of Commit Without Approval like it is now) | 00:29 |
| @preaction | and i'm going to update the Gallery to fix that right away | 00:29 |
| elnino | right. I just mentioned it for more info. Both the site and the CS settings is the "commitwith approval" but a new post goes thru without aproval. | 00:29 |
| @preaction | is the CS committed? | 00:29 |
| @preaction | does your Commit With Approval workflow have the "Request Approval ..." workflow activity? | 00:30 |
| elnino | yes. the cs is already created, and has existing posts. New posts go thru without approval. if the post is modifed then it goes thru the approval process. | 00:30 |
| @preaction | what version are you running? | 00:30 |
| elnino | I don't know. it's the default approval workflow. I'm afraid to change those. The site changes work just great. 7.3.22 | 00:31 |
| @preaction | if you can reproduce using a demo site, it might be prudent to post a bug report | 00:31 |
| perlDreamer | lots of bugs have already been fixed between 7.3.22 and 7.4.today | 00:32 |
| +MrHairgrease | ok guys | 00:32 |
| +MrHairgrease | going to sleep | 00:32 |
| +MrHairgrease | later | 00:32 |
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| perlDreamer | Anyone have 5 minutes to try a test fix out for me? You need to have the WRE and a SVN copy of wG. | 00:42 |
| @preaction | sure | 00:43 |
| perlDreamer | you'll need to do an update | 00:43 |
| perlDreamer | WEBGUI_CONFIG=/data/WebGUI/etc/mywebgui.conf | 00:43 |
| perlDreamer | cd /data/WebGUI/t | 00:43 |
| perlDreamer | perl SQL.t | 00:43 |
| perlDreamer | you should see 7 skipped tests | 00:44 |
| perlDreamer | and no failing tests | 00:44 |
| @preaction | updating svn now | 00:44 |
| perlDreamer | preaction: did you see that I've started migrating the tests away from Test::MockObject over to | 00:45 |
| perlDreamer | your supercharted PseudoRequest? | 00:45 |
| perlDreamer | s/rted/rged/ | 00:46 |
| @preaction | looks like i got 7 failed but they show up as "skipped" to prove | 00:46 |
| @preaction | prove doesn't seem to like skip | 00:46 |
| perlDreamer | it should be okay. | 00:46 |
| perlDreamer | btw, where's rizen? | 00:46 |
| perlDreamer | haven't seen him online for a while | 00:46 |
| @preaction | ahh: it worked once, but every time afterward it's died | 00:47 |
| perlDreamer | the test? | 00:47 |
| perlDreamer | hm | 00:47 |
| @preaction | he's on IRC when he's working (usually 9-5) | 00:47 |
| perlDreamer | paste? | 00:48 |
| @preaction | yeah, reproduced: the first time it does what you described, the second time it dies | 00:48 |
| CIA-29 | WebGUI: colin * r4973 /WebGUI/t/SQL.t: add a prototype fix for not having InnoDB tables causing test errors | 00:48 |
| @preaction | perlbot pastebin | 00:49 |
| perlbot | (see paste) | 00:49 |
| @preaction | perlbot paste | 00:49 |
| perlbot | Paste your code to http://sial.org/pbot/perl http://erxz.com/pb or http://p3m.org/paste/fn/perl and #Perl will be able to view it. | 00:49 |
| @preaction | http://sial.org/pbot/28529 | 00:49 |
| perlDreamer | took a blind stab at a fix in 4974 | 00:50 |
| perlDreamer | yeah, might have been a good blind stab | 00:51 |
| perlDreamer | I left the test table in place at the end of the test, but hid the cleanup | 00:51 |
| perlDreamer | inside the SKIP | 00:51 |
| perlDreamer | should work now | 00:51 |
| @preaction | k | 00:51 |
| @preaction | seems to work now | 00:52 |
| perlDreamer | when the smoke tests work again, that should be 1 less problem | 00:52 |
| @preaction | woot! | 00:52 |
| perlDreamer | how's le galleria coming? | 00:52 |
| @preaction | quite well. almost got the perl code ready to start adding templates / debugging frontend | 00:53 |
| @preaction | still need to find a solution to the problem of not being able to use PseudoRequest to upload files | 00:53 |
| perlDreamer | would a tied filehandle help? | 00:55 |
| @preaction | i think it's more we have to mock Apache2::Upload or something, i don't know | 00:56 |
| @preaction | session uses Apache2::Upload to get the file, but that requires libapr | 00:56 |
| @preaction | once you try to load libapr, the tests will die | 00:57 |
| perlDreamer | request->upload returns a list of filehandles | 00:59 |
| perlDreamer | and the Storage just does a byte smart read on that filehandle to implement a copy | 00:59 |
| perlDreamer | See Storage.pm, line 204 or so | 00:59 |
| perlDreamer | but if session->request is a PseudoRequest, it should bypass that step | 01:00 |
| elnino | 'k - I checked the demo. It appears that you've made a distinction between new posts and new threads. I guess I was using the wrong term.. I was refering to new threads bypassing the approval process. And given that there is now a distinction, I suspect there was difference on how the two should be handled? | 01:00 |
| @preaction | elnino, i don't know. maybe that's just how the bug was fixed. | 01:01 |
| perlDreamer | preaction: I think you meant Storage, not Session | 01:02 |
| perlDreamer | can we move that load into preload.perl? | 01:02 |
| elnino | So I can only conclude that new *threads* were intended to bypass the approval process, but new posts are supposed to be approved. So if I upgrade, gosh, if there are new settings like this, how does it determine what I want? | 01:02 |
| perlDreamer | elnino: new settings defer to predetermined default during the upgrade process. | 01:03 |
| perlDreamer | if you want something different from that, you'd have to go back and alter them | 01:03 |
| CIA-29 | WebGUI: colin * r4974 /WebGUI/t/SQL.t: always, always cleanup after myself in tests. sigh. | 01:03 |
| @preaction | elnino, which are usually exactly how things were before the upgrade | 01:03 |
| @preaction | or we try to get an idea for what most people want, like good UI does | 01:04 |
| @preaction | perlDreamer, i don't remember why Apache2::Upload is there exactly, but that'd be the first step in figuring out if it can be moved | 01:04 |
| @preaction | it doesn't look like there's any real reason why it couldn't be moved, it looks like Apache2::Upload is just a mixin to add the upload() method to Apache2::Request | 01:06 |
| elnino | ok. Thanks! | 01:07 |
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| perlDreamer | we could also just mock it, using fake_module like you were suggesting earlier. | 01:16 |
| @preaction | what would that entail though? it's just a mixin for Apache2::Request | 01:21 |
| perlDreamer | it should avoid loading libapr? | 01:27 |
| perlDreamer | well, with also fake'ing Apache2::Request it would avoid that | 01:30 |
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| perlDreamer | preaction: it's done | 02:09 |
| perlDreamer | check out #4975 | 02:09 |
| @preaction | sweet, i'll have to merge that for the gallery | 02:09 |
| perlDreamer | I'm about 99% convinced that WebGUI::Test should always return a PseudoRequest'ed Session var by default | 02:10 |
| perlDreamer | It's just too handy | 02:11 |
| @preaction | i'll update WebGUI::Test->getPage to add the uploads section to it (it's documented but it doesn't work). which means updating WebGUI::Test::Maker::HTML | 02:12 |
| @preaction | they're supposed to be filehandles, right? | 02:12 |
| perlDreamer | yes/no | 02:13 |
| perlDreamer | they're really objects with methods for filename, size and fh | 02:13 |
| perlDreamer | we need another class to handle that | 02:13 |
| perlDreamer | I'll work on it | 02:13 |
| perlDreamer | sorry about jumping the gun | 02:13 |
| CIA-29 | WebGUI: colin * r4975 /WebGUI/t/ (lib/WebGUI/PseudoRequest.pm Storage.t): enable testing of $session->request->uploads through WebGUI::PseudoRequest. Now we need a good utility method for sending a list of files to a sub and having it return a list of filehandles to those files | 02:18 |
| @preaction | so something like WebGUI::Test->addUploadedFile( filepath )? | 02:30 |
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| perlDreamer | well, I stuck it in PseudoRequest | 02:31 |
| perlDreamer | and it takes a list of files | 02:31 |
| perlDreamer | rather than a directory | 02:32 |
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| CIA-29 | WebGUI: colin * r4976 /WebGUI/t/ (lib/WebGUI/PseudoRequest.pm Storage.t): (log message trimmed) | 03:03 |
| CIA-29 | WebGUI: Finish up the file upload handling by PseudoRequest. If you | 03:03 |
| CIA-29 | WebGUI: call $pseudoRequest->uploadFiles with a list of filenames, it will populate | 03:03 |
| CIA-29 | WebGUI: the upload method with upload objects, so that Storage->getFileFromFormPost | 03:03 |
| CIA-29 | WebGUI: will have an object with all the right methods. | 03:03 |
| CIA-29 | WebGUI: t/Storage.t tests this incidently. It occurs to me that we need tests | 03:03 |
| CIA-29 | WebGUI: for our PseudoRequest module, and it needs POD, and it should probably | 03:03 |
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| +perlDreamer | fire, flood foe! | 18:43 |
| +perlDreamer | raise the hue and the cry! | 18:43 |
| +perlDreamer | webgui.org is beseiged and beset upon by foul means! | 18:43 |
| +perlDreamer | in other words | 18:44 |
| +perlDreamer | it's broke | 18:44 |
| +perlDreamer | "OMG. They killed webgui.org" | 18:54 |
| +perlDreamer | Alas poor webgui.org, I knew him well | 18:56 |
| +perlDreamer | Come, let us destroy webgui.org, and rule the galaxy as father and son! | 18:57 |
| +perlDreamer | webgui.org needs food badly | 18:57 |
| +perlDreamer | webgui.org is about to die | 18:58 |
| +perlDreamer | webgui.org is dead, Jim. | 18:59 |
| +perlDreamer | Remember the webgui.org! | 19:01 |
| +perlDreamer | Give me webgui.org, or give me death! | 19:31 |
| @apeiron | Loads fine for me. So I guess you live. | 19:37 |
| +perlDreamer | I get a 500 error | 19:41 |
| * perlDreamer feels his heartbeat stutter a bit | 19:41 |
| +perlDreamer | but pb.com works fine | 19:41 |
| +Radix_ | works here | 19:44 |
| * perlDreamer must be cursed | 19:54 |
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| SynQ | hi there | 13:02 |
| SynQ | since it's weekend... | 13:03 |
| SynQ | is there a way to get the latest version of WRE from svn somewhere? | 13:03 |
| SynQ | :) | 13:10 |
| SynQ | in that case, I'll just focus on the 0.8.0 version | 13:24 |
| @preaction | SynQ, svn.webgui.org/plainblack/wrebuild | 13:44 |
| SynQ | ah | 14:00 |
| SynQ | :) | 14:00 |
| SynQ | the nicest thing about compiling the wre is that it takes for ages | 15:01 |
| SynQ | :) | 15:01 |
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| CIA-18 | WebGUI: jt * r4977 /tools/makerelease.pl: this should fix the commit problem with smoke tests | 16:48 |
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| SynQ | hi there | 23:03 |
| SynQ | is feedback on a specific svn version of the WRE valued | 23:04 |
| SynQ | ? | 23:04 |
| SynQ | syntax error at /data/wre/lib/WRE/Spectre.pm line 262, near "sum values" | 23:04 |
| @rizen | please submit a bug report and i'll look into it | 23:06 |
| @rizen | and yes | 23:06 |
| @rizen | it is valued | 23:06 |
| @rizen | i hope to put out the 0.8.1 version on monday | 23:06 |
| SynQ | great | 23:06 |
| SynQ | I will | 23:06 |
| SynQ | submit a bug report that is | 23:07 |
| SynQ | Done | 23:13 |
| @rizen | when i get out the next wre release depends greatly upon when i can resolve these pesky windows bugs that are remaining | 23:14 |
| SynQ | windows bugs | 23:16 |
| SynQ | ok, but I get my bug on debian | 23:17 |
| SynQ | not on windows | 23:17 |
| @rizen | i said nothing about your bug | 23:17 |
| SynQ | I know | 23:17 |
| SynQ | I don't care about windows | 23:17 |
| @rizen | but i've resolved to release all os versions at the same time | 23:18 |
| SynQ | ah | 23:18 |
| SynQ | understandable | 23:19 |
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| +perlDreamer | apeiron: ping | 02:49 |
| +perlDreamer | You can close this bug with one line of code: http://www.webgui.org/bugs/tracker/wre/spectre_pm-line-262-syntax-error | 02:49 |
| @rizen | closed | 02:51 |
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| +perlDreamer | sweet | 02:58 |
| +perlDreamer | You have proper duck alignment? | 02:58 |
| @rizen | nope still working on straightening out the foul | 02:59 |
| +perlDreamer | heh | 02:59 |
| @rizen | it's going to take a while to get that done | 03:00 |
| @rizen | i could go for some smores right now | 03:00 |
| @rizen | could you bring some over? | 03:00 |
| +perlDreamer | mmmmm | 03:00 |
| +perlDreamer | I'll start building a fire | 03:01 |
| +perlDreamer | You going to be up loate? | 03:01 |
| +perlDreamer | It will take a while to make them. | 03:04 |
| @rizen | i'm actuallying thinking about hitting some video games in a ibt | 03:05 |
| @rizen | s/ibt/bit/ | 03:05 |
| +perlDreamer | I fixed the SQL.t errors for the tests, and now looking at the graphic tests that are failing. | 03:05 |
| @rizen | so i'll be up if you want to bring them over =) | 03:05 |
| +perlDreamer | I'll put them into my DVD drive and rip them digitally, then you can reconstitute them with your Mac. | 03:05 |
| @rizen | don't spend time on the graphics tests for right now | 03:06 |
| @rizen | we're working on getting image magick to work on freebsd | 03:06 |
| @rizen | and if it does | 03:06 |
| @rizen | then we'll be ditching graphics magic | 03:06 |
| @rizen | and the tests will start working automatically again | 03:06 |
| +perlDreamer | okay. I thought we like Graphics::Magick. Stable, faster, yada yada yada | 03:06 |
| @rizen | not faster | 03:06 |
| @rizen | supposedly more stable | 03:06 |
| @rizen | and it works on freebsd | 03:07 |
| @rizen | that's the big key | 03:07 |
| @rizen | but now we have a freebsd junkie on staff | 03:07 |
| @rizen | and he's going to help get image magick working on freebsd | 03:07 |
| +perlDreamer | apeiron or Haarg? | 03:07 |
| @rizen | image magick is more powerful | 03:07 |
| @rizen | apeiron | 03:07 |
| +perlDreamer | dude, I'm sorry. Smores isn't going to work. How 'bout one of these instead? | 03:10 |
| +perlDreamer | http://www.phobe.com/sfi/accordion.html | 03:10 |
| @rizen | that's awesome | 03:12 |
| @rizen | though not as awesome as smores | 03:12 |
| @rizen | pd, i've got a problem, i have no idea how to test the new pluggable url handlers that i'm making | 03:12 |
| @rizen | it requires apache objects | 03:12 |
| @rizen | i think i'll commit without tests, once it's working and then ask for your help on how to write the tests | 03:13 |
| +perlDreamer | either mech, or Apache::Test | 03:13 |
| +perlDreamer | can you mock the objects? | 03:13 |
| +perlDreamer | eh, nevermind | 03:13 |
| +perlDreamer | they're probably integral | 03:13 |
| @rizen | i don't know. maybe. i'll have to look into that. i've never done any of the fancy tests that you've written | 03:13 |
| +perlDreamer | We finally started mocking Apache::Upload on Friday. | 03:14 |
| +perlDreamer | Now you can do actual file uploads in tests. | 03:14 |
| +perlDreamer | I made it for preaction to test the gallery | 03:14 |
| +perlDreamer | Honestly, this thing might be releasable to the public. | 03:14 |
| +perlDreamer | It's fairly handy. | 03:14 |
| @rizen | you mean to cpan? | 03:15 |
| +perlDreamer | yeah | 03:15 |
| @rizen | you should | 03:15 |
| +perlDreamer | I can't | 03:15 |
| @rizen | why? | 03:15 |
| +perlDreamer | It's not mine anymore | 03:15 |
| +perlDreamer | It's yours | 03:15 |
| @rizen | bah | 03:15 |
| @rizen | that's not how it works | 03:15 |
| @rizen | when you commit to svn you give us a license to do whatever we want with it | 03:15 |
| @rizen | but that doesn't mean we own it | 03:16 |
| @rizen | it's still yours too | 03:16 |
| +perlDreamer | as long as you don't mind, nor send your lawyers after me, nor trump my ace lead and scarf my smores | 03:16 |
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| +perlDreamer | Tim wrote to the President of the US last night | 03:21 |
| @rizen | what did he say? | 03:22 |
| +perlDreamer | He wants him to sign S294 when it comes to his desk | 03:23 |
| +perlDreamer | It's an Amtrak reform and spending bill | 03:24 |
| +perlDreamer | I told him it has to go through the House first, but he's not very patient | 03:24 |
| @rizen | that's so cool | 03:26 |
| @rizen | i haven't even ever written the president or a congressman | 03:26 |
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| @rizen | i figure they won't listen anyway | 03:26 |
| +perlDreamer | I think it will get through the House, but the Pres is not so cool on trains. | 03:27 |
| +perlDreamer | He needs wise counsel | 03:27 |
| +perlDreamer | from a 6 year old :) | 03:27 |
| +Radix-wrk | I think this video sums up our political battle atm: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAOUKX-Myc0 | 03:28 |
| +Radix-wrk | Our election is in another 12 days | 03:29 |
| +perlDreamer | Are you going to vote? | 03:29 |
| +Radix-wrk | Thankfully the election campains here are measured in weeks compared to your months of campaigning in the US. | 03:30 |
| +Radix-wrk | Voting is compulsory | 03:30 |
| +Radix-wrk | you get fined about $200 if you don't vote. | 03:30 |
| +perlDreamer | wow | 03:30 |
| +perlDreamer | now that's an idea! | 03:30 |
| @rizen | i don't know if that's a good idea or not | 03:33 |
| +perlDreamer | I asked because too many people here gripe about the system, then don't vote. | 03:33 |
| @rizen | most of the people in the US are so dumb i wouldn't want them to vote | 03:33 |
| +Radix-wrk | you get the same here | 03:33 |
| @rizen | but i guess it doesn't really matter since there's rarely ever a good candidate to vote for anyway | 03:34 |
| +perlDreamer | you're lucky Jamie isn't in channel :) | 03:34 |
| +perlDreamer | Or was that Tavis? | 03:35 |
| @rizen | tavis is the only one on staff that thinks that GW is a good president | 03:35 |
| @rizen | jamie is the one that thinks i should run for president | 03:36 |
| @rizen | and in that sentence, "one" is the operative word | 03:36 |
| +Radix-wrk | lol | 03:36 |
| +Radix-wrk | Have you seen the movie Good Luck Chuck? | 03:36 |
| +perlDreamer | but he knows you best | 03:37 |
| @rizen | nope, haven't seen it | 03:37 |
| +Radix-wrk | There's a scene with a girl with a tattoo with the letters "G. W." just above her panties was funny - the guys expression of horror. | 03:38 |
| +perlDreamer | gtg, dinner time in PDX. Se y'all tomorrow | 03:38 |
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| CIA-18 | WebGUI: Coverage tests for getBackToSiteURL brings Session/Url coverage | 07:33 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: up to 100%. | 07:33 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: colin * r4979 /WebGUI/t/Session/Url.t: leave notes as to future tests that need to be written for getBackToSiteURL | 07:33 |
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| SDuensin | Greetings. | 15:30 |
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| CIA-18 | WebGUI: https://svn.webgui.org/plainblack/WebGUI | 20:48 |
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| CIA-18 | WebGUI: r4969 | graham | 2007-11-08 16:50:59 -0600 (Thu, 08 Nov 2007) | 2 lines | 20:48 |
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| perlDreamer | hey, folks | 23:00 |
| +MrHairgrease | howdy | 23:00 |
| perlDreamer | MrHairgrease: Are you feeling well? it's only 9:00pm on a weeknight. | 23:00 |
| perlDreamer | Shouldn't you be out partying? | 23:00 |
| +MrHairgrease | oh i started partying at 10 am today | 23:01 |
| +MrHairgrease | so it's getting kinda old by now | 23:01 |
| perlDreamer | well, in that case, it's good to take a little time off | 23:01 |
| +MrHairgrease | hehe | 23:01 |
| +MrHairgrease | btw | 23:02 |
| +MrHairgrease | it 10 pm over here | 23:02 |
| +MrHairgrease | you're being uk minded =) | 23:02 |
| perlDreamer | hey, what's 15 degrees between friends? | 23:03 |
| +MrHairgrease | dunno | 23:03 |
| perlDreamer | 1 time zone? :) | 23:03 |
| +MrHairgrease | i always use radians | 23:03 |
| perlDreamer | hey, what's pi/12 radians between friends? | 23:04 |
| @rizen | i only use kelvins, regardless of whether it's heat or distance around the globe that i'm measuring | 23:04 |
| @rizen | it could be why i'm always late | 23:04 |
| * MrHairgrease always uses pi in stones per square hogshead | 23:05 |
| perlDreamer | or cold... | 23:05 |
| +MrHairgrease | or whatever | 23:05 |
| +MrHairgrease | rizen is never cold | 23:05 |
| @rizen | that is true | 23:06 |
| +MrHairgrease | he has one of the most warming personalities that i know of | 23:06 |
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| @rizen | it's 283 kelvin here today | 23:09 |
| +MrHairgrease | ah you mean 9.85 degrees celcius | 23:09 |
| +MrHairgrease | here it was a few kelvins colder i think | 23:10 |
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| perlDreamer | it's not so cold here, but we're having high winds | 23:13 |
| perlDreamer | parts of east portland are without power | 23:13 |
| perlDreamer | which can really interfere with your WebGUI development | 23:13 |
| perlDreamer | that's why I live in the West part of portland | 23:13 |
| perlDreamer | Intel gets kind of mad when the power goes out | 23:14 |
| perlDreamer | fabs and design centers and all that | 23:14 |
| +MrHairgrease | what a bunch of crybabies | 23:14 |
| +MrHairgrease | a fab only cost some billions | 23:15 |
| +MrHairgrease | you'd figure they could do without it for a day or so without complaining =) | 23:15 |
| perlDreamer | I know. Those fab/process guys are such whiners | 23:16 |
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| perlDreamer | One day they asking for self-aligned mask sets | 23:16 |
| perlDreamer | next day they want electricity | 23:16 |
| +MrHairgrease | yeah those guys suck | 23:17 |
| * MrHairgrease wonders where he was last thursday... | 23:17 |
| +MrHairgrease | oh crap =) | 23:17 |
| perlDreamer | in the fab? :) | 23:17 |
| perlDreamer | Tomorrow they'll want water. | 23:17 |
| +MrHairgrease | yeah | 23:18 |
| +MrHairgrease | only demineralised water though | 23:18 |
| perlDreamer | what? | 23:18 |
| perlDreamer | You want pure water? | 23:18 |
| perlDreamer | sheesh | 23:18 |
| +MrHairgrease | they say all the crap in normal water is bad for your process | 23:19 |
| +MrHairgrease | but they're just spoiled | 23:19 |
| +MrHairgrease | =) | 23:19 |
| perlDreamer | it gives me the squirts | 23:19 |
| +MrHairgrease | it's not for consumption | 23:19 |
| perlDreamer | that would explain a few things | 23:20 |
| perlDreamer | if they'd bring me some beer, I'd drink it instead | 23:21 |
| +MrHairgrease | see it like this | 23:21 |
| +MrHairgrease | demi water is to water what light beer is compared to beer | 23:21 |
| +MrHairgrease | it's just not for consumption | 23:22 |
| perlDreamer | makes sense | 23:22 |
| perlDreamer | so I should drink mineralwasser instead | 23:22 |
| +MrHairgrease | why not | 23:22 |
| perlDreamer | I tried some when I was in germany | 23:22 |
| +MrHairgrease | i myself consume liters of water with bubbles | 23:22 |
| +MrHairgrease | i think it's called soda water in the us | 23:23 |
| perlDreamer | but there's no minerals in soda water | 23:23 |
| +MrHairgrease | oh well | 23:23 |
| +MrHairgrease | i just care for the carbon dioxide | 23:23 |
| @khenn | unsweetened iced tea using tap water is the only way to go | 23:24 |
| @khenn | all the lead and crap they spew into the public drinking water pleasantly masked with the goodness of tea | 23:25 |
| perlDreamer | I don't know who you are, but you better stop using Frank's account | 23:25 |
| perlDreamer | He'll get mad | 23:25 |
| +MrHairgrease | hmmm lead | 23:25 |
| @khenn | I have a nice big glass of it right here | 23:26 |
| +MrHairgrease | franks hasn't been the same since his last encounter with the Dutch =) | 23:26 |
| @khenn | I killed off a large portion of brain cells that night | 23:26 |
| @khenn | thanks to Koen | 23:26 |
| +MrHairgrease | i know for a fact that that particular evening wasn't to good on koen's bc's too =) | 23:27 |
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| perlDreamer | ssshhhh. He's back | 00:54 |
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| steveo | Why does WebGUI::Asset::Post need to redefine a brand new storageId whenever it adds a revision? | 01:20 |
| +MrHairgrease | b/c if the storage would stay the same it is not possible to version different files with the same filename | 01:34 |
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| perlDreamer | suppose someone edits a post with an attachment. He leaves the attachment alone but edits the content. | 01:37 |
| perlDreamer | Now there would be two versions of the post, both pointing to the same storageId. | 01:38 |
| perlDreamer | 3 months later, the DeleteOldVersions workflow comes along and says | 01:38 |
| perlDreamer | hey, the older version of this post should be deleted | 01:38 |
| @rizen | that shouldn't be true | 01:38 |
| cap10morgan | Is there a PayPal payment plugin in 7.4? | 01:38 |
| perlDreamer | but you can't delete it without deleting the storageId | 01:38 |
| @rizen | on every edit it creates a copy of the storage id | 01:38 |
| @rizen | storage location | 01:39 |
| @rizen | cap: no, but it's coming sometime in 7.5 | 01:39 |
| perlDreamer | rizen: this is postulating not making a copy each time. That's what steveo asked about | 01:39 |
| cap10morgan | rizen: cool, thanks | 01:39 |
| perlDreamer | anyway, the end result is that your db ends up full of old cruft that you can't safely delete | 01:40 |
| perlDreamer | it's a small price to pay to for an extra storage Id | 01:40 |
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| perlDreamer | each version is completely self contained | 01:40 |
| xootom | hi all, i mistakenly set 'archive after' on some photo galleries to 0, thinking that would disable archiving. but it's instantly archived lots of photos.. i can't see them in asset manager but can find them through search. is there a way of unarchiving them in bulk? | 01:41 |
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| perlDreamer | xootom: I can't think of any through the user interface or admin interface to do that | 01:43 |
| perlDreamer | rizen: but speaking of archive, so is it a bug if you check the state of an asset for archived, since it will never be true? | 01:43 |
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| xootom | thanks pd | 01:45 |
| @rizen | why do you think archive will never be true? | 01:45 |
| perlDreamer | in your email that wasn't one of the valid values for state, only for status. | 01:46 |
| xootom | it's status, not state | 01:47 |
| xootom | i'm just going to sql everything from archive to approved on my galleries | 01:47 |
| @rizen | oh right | 01:47 |
| @rizen | yeah, state never uses archived | 01:47 |
| @rizen | only status | 01:47 |
| perlDreamer | so should the logic be reduced to just state=published (and ignore state) or does it need to be state=published OR status=archived? | 01:48 |
| perlDreamer | i.e. AssetLineage line 195 | 01:49 |
| @rizen | actually | 01:54 |
| @rizen | it needs to be changed to state='published' and (status='approved' or status='archived') | 01:54 |
| perlDreamer | asset.state='published' and (assetData.status in ('approved','archived')) | 01:57 |
| * perlDreamer begins to wish for views | 01:57 |
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| perlDreamer | rizen: we'll need more test code before I feel comfortable making those changes | 02:06 |
| perlDreamer | it will take me a while | 02:06 |
| @rizen | time for me to be done for the day methinks | 02:11 |
| @rizen | brain hurts | 02:11 |
| perlDreamer | and you didn't even go drinking with Koen and Frank | 02:11 |
| @rizen | no just being pulled in 14000 directions per day will make your brain hurt | 02:12 |
| perlDreamer | indeed | 02:12 |
| @rizen | you never get to concentrate on any one thing for more than 5 minutes at a time | 02:12 |
| @rizen | Hi. My name is JT and I'm an addict. | 02:16 |
| perlDreamer | Hi, JT | 02:16 |
| @rizen | I killed 2 people last night and I really got off on it. | 02:16 |
| @rizen | I need your help so I don't do it again | 02:17 |
| perlDreamer | Were they bad people? | 02:17 |
| +Radix-wrk | only 2? | 02:17 |
| @rizen | If you've never seen Mr. Brooks, you should. Amazing. | 02:17 |
| perlDreamer | Didn't make you an advocate of 12-step programs? | 02:17 |
| @rizen | Actually I haven't been of fan of them for a long time. | 02:18 |
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| @rizen | Staistically only about 5% of people that use 12 step programs stick with it. | 02:18 |
| @rizen | Which is co-incidentally, the same number of people that stick with it even if they aren't in a 12 step program | 02:18 |
| perlDreamer | So what do they recommend for kicking an addiction? | 02:19 |
| @rizen | because common wisdom is that it should work | 02:19 |
| @rizen | and no 12 step programs publish their statistics. you can only get it through inside whistleblowers. | 02:20 |
| @rizen | the 5% is from a leaked report in 1989 | 02:20 |
| @rizen | which is the last time that the statistics have gotten out | 02:20 |
| @rizen | most often the 12 step programs are used for recruitment | 02:20 |
| @rizen | in most cases, it's for religious organizations, but sometimes it's also for political orgs | 02:21 |
| perlDreamer | Hi, I'm Ray and I'm addicted to cigarettes. Hi, Ray. Quit smoking and hand out these campaign buttons. | 02:22 |
| @rizen | maybe political is the wrong word | 02:22 |
| @rizen | "activist" would be a better word | 02:22 |
| @rizen | although activist has a liberal tint to it | 02:22 |
| @rizen | and these orgs aren't always liberal | 02:22 |
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| @rizen | rule 1: wrap your hand and the murder weapon in a plastic bag | 02:44 |
| @rizen | rule 2: never kill somone you know, it's the fastest way to get caught | 02:44 |
| @rizen | rule 3: vacuum the house afterward and take the bag with you | 02:45 |
| @rizen | rule 4: burn your clothes and all other evidence afterward | 02:45 |
| @rizen | rule 5: take the slugs with you | 02:45 |
| perlDreamer | rule 6, don't kill anyone in your house if your neighbor is a professional photographer with a busted leg | 02:46 |
| @rizen | my rules are from mr brooks. where's yours from? | 02:47 |
| perlDreamer | rear window | 02:47 |
| perlDreamer | Jimmy Stewart and Grace Kelly. Oh, and Raymond Burr | 02:47 |
| perlDreamer | time to go home and switch to Dad mode | 02:48 |
| perlDreamer | Catch y'all tomorrow | 02:48 |
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| CIA-18 | WebGUI: chrisn * r4982 /wrebuild/wre/sbin/wremonitor.pl: Remove unneeded subs that don't do anything at the moment. | 04:33 |
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| SDuensin | Greetings. | 15:39 |
| +MrHairgrease | greetings | 15:42 |
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| CIA-18 | WebGUI: graham * r4983 /WebGUI/ (docs/changelog/7.x.x.txt lib/WebGUI/Asset.pm): fix broken SSL redirection | 20:33 |
| @preaction | http://www.sabi.co.uk/Notes/linuxHelpAsk.html <- "how to ask smart questions" without ESR's attitude | 21:18 |
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| xdanger | rizen: I just posted a rfe with diff in it. If I have a small enhancement that I have done and would like to be included for webgui is this the right way? | 01:29 |
| @rizen | yup | 01:30 |
| xdanger | I think I still have commit rights to svn, but I don't want to put anything there without someones approval =) | 01:31 |
| @rizen | good cuz that would be a fast way to lose your commit rights | 01:32 |
| @rizen | i'll review the patch this week | 01:33 |
| @rizen | and post my response | 01:33 |
| xdanger | It's really small thing... label for RadioList and CheckList, so you can select the item by clicking the text | 01:35 |
| @rizen | so let me get this straight | 01:43 |
| @rizen | if you click on the label after this patch is applied | 01:43 |
| @rizen | then it will check the box or radio button | 01:43 |
| @rizen | as if you clicked on the radio button or check box | 01:44 |
| xdanger | yes | 01:44 |
| @rizen | approved | 01:44 |
| xdanger | so, do I add them, or somebody else will use the diff's? | 01:46 |
| @rizen | you should do it | 01:47 |
| @rizen | but if you don't, someone will eventually do it | 01:47 |
| @rizen | and if you do it, then reply to your rfe to say that you have done so | 01:47 |
| xdanger | ok, I don't have svn of webgui checkouted at the moment... | 01:48 |
| xdanger | maybe later if I remember, have something else to do right now | 01:48 |
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| SDuensin | Greetings. | 15:46 |
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| +MrHairgrease | hehe | 17:33 |
| +MrHairgrease | "I think webgui lite is a waste of time for you developers" -> "I think webgui lite is not a priority for you developers" | 17:34 |
| @preaction | he doesn't know that all the provisions that JT described are already in there | 17:59 |
| +MrHairgrease | that's not the point | 18:00 |
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| @rizen | is fathertorque the same as maxscience? | 20:40 |
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| perlDreamer | okay, who wants to volunteer to answer my silly newbie questions today? | 20:47 |
| @rizen | if it's quick i'll do it | 20:47 |
| @rizen | have to leave in 5 | 20:47 |
| perlDreamer | it's javascript related | 20:47 |
| @rizen | what you don't think i know js? | 20:47 |
| perlDreamer | how does the dragger code update the Layout asset content positions? | 20:47 |
| perlDreamer | no, just to warn you that it won't be straight forward for me :) | 20:47 |
| @rizen | you mean how does it communicate back to the server? | 20:48 |
| perlDreamer | yes | 20:48 |
| @rizen | it's old school | 20:48 |
| @rizen | when we wrote that we couldn't rely upon ajax | 20:48 |
| @rizen | so it's posting back through a hidden iframe | 20:48 |
| perlDreamer | okay | 20:49 |
| @rizen | look at the top of the view method | 20:49 |
| @rizen | it spits out the iframe there | 20:49 |
| perlDreamer | Cool. I was taking a crack the the SQL Report Asset Rank bug, and not getting anywhere tracing the JS directly | 20:49 |
| perlDreamer | http://www.plainblack.com/bugs/tracker/sqlreport-asset-rank2 | 20:50 |
| @rizen | asset rank is not related to page position | 20:50 |
| @rizen | it's only used as a last resort if the asset has not been manually positioned on the page, then it defaults to asset rank | 20:51 |
| @rizen | in the first position | 20:51 |
| @rizen | but since page layouts can have multiple positions | 20:51 |
| @rizen | rank cannot be used | 20:51 |
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| @rizen | so the bug is not a bug | 20:51 |
| @rizen | he just doesn't understand how it works | 20:51 |
| perlDreamer | So it's accidently working for most assets, and not working at all the the SQL Report | 20:52 |
| @rizen | right | 20:53 |
| @rizen | it's "defaulting" | 20:53 |
| @rizen | but he's already positioned the sql report at some point | 20:53 |
| @rizen | and so positioning takes over for rank | 20:53 |
| perlDreamer | Okay. I was confused by that too, so I'm going to play with it a bit more. Then I'll post back and close the bug. | 20:55 |
| perlDreamer | I didn't know that the dragger had copy and paste keys | 20:55 |
| perlDreamer | I like that better than the dragging | 20:55 |
| @rizen | that's an undocumented feature | 20:58 |
| @rizen | i'm not sure whether we'll be able to keep it when we rebuild the dragger using yui so i haven't told anybody about it yet | 20:58 |
| @rizen | even though it's been in there since v5 | 20:58 |
| perlDreamer | I'll hold off on the wiki page then :) | 20:58 |
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| perlDreamer | too cool! | 22:41 |
| perlDreamer | WRE on EC2 | 22:41 |
| perlDreamer | http://www.plainblack.com/install/upgrade_help/fyi---wre0_8-on-amazon-ec2#idVqZltAyfPXXgtLvV-1DAtw | 22:42 |
| @khenn | cool, but isn't EC2 just a computing environment? | 22:48 |
| @khenn | ie: you don't get a default OS | 22:48 |
| @khenn | I don't know much about it really | 22:48 |
| perlDreamer | No, I think that's it exactly | 22:48 |
| perlDreamer | but if you want more processors, you just buy them. | 22:49 |
| perlDreamer | and if you want less, you pay less | 22:49 |
| @khenn | cool nontheless | 22:49 |
| perlDreamer | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amazon_Elastic_Compute_Cloud | 22:50 |
| perlDreamer | I think I could use this for automated wG testing | 22:52 |
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| perlDreamer | hm | 23:00 |
| perlDreamer | $0.10/instance hour | 23:00 |
| perlDreamer | 1 instance is 132/month | 23:00 |
| perlDreamer | that's a bit steep, it seems | 23:00 |
| @khenn | guess it depends on your needs | 23:02 |
| perlDreamer | Well, I miscalculated. 24*30 = 720, so it's 72/month | 23:03 |
| perlDreamer | maybe people are willing to pay a premium for the elasticity and real time nature of it | 23:03 |
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| wgGuest16 | i need some help setting up wre 8 and webgui on windows | 23:08 |
| wgGuest16 | i have it up and running but having issues with spectre.conf | 23:08 |
| perlDreamer | what kind of issues? (note, I'm not a WRE user) | 23:08 |
| wgGuest16 | this is some of the webgui.log error ERROR - spectre.conf - POE::Kernel::_dispatch_event[1012] | 23:08 |
| perlDreamer | it that all? nothing preceding or following that? | 23:09 |
| wgGuest16 | did have this before it http://webgui.pastebin.com/d68a388b3 | 23:10 |
| wgGuest16 | i created a article then commited it | 23:10 |
| wgGuest16 | then it shoot out these errors | 23:10 |
| perlDreamer | did the commit work? | 23:10 |
| wgGuest16 | yes | 23:11 |
| wgGuest16 | i just got it set up few minutes ago | 23:11 |
| wgGuest16 | and testing it | 23:11 |
| perlDreamer | Offhand I'd say you're seeing log "noise" then, rather than real problems. | 23:11 |
| wgGuest16 | my console is at http://topsub:60834/ but spectre conf has port 32133 | 23:12 |
| wgGuest16 | should they be the same | 23:12 |
| wgGuest16 | ? | 23:12 |
| wgGuest16 | well also i tried ti import a package and it created the folder and nothing under it | 23:12 |
| perlDreamer | which version of WebGUI? | 23:12 |
| perlDreamer | that would be a completely separate issue from spectre, in any case. | 23:13 |
| perlDreamer | it sounds like a permissions problem in your uploads directory | 23:13 |
| @preaction | looks like you're trying to re-import a package that didn't get imported correctly the first time | 23:13 |
| wgGuest16 | looking.. i know its in settings somewere | 23:13 |
| wgGuest16 | believe its 12 but still looking | 23:14 |
| perlDreamer | In the Admin Console, choose Statistics | 23:14 |
| perlDreamer | it will tell you | 23:14 |
| wgGuest16 | ah ya. 7.4.13-stable | 23:15 |
| wgGuest16 | i went to demo.webgui and imported same package there.. just the javascript folder | 23:16 |
| wgGuest16 | just to be sure | 23:16 |
| perlDreamer | same problem? Or did it work there? | 23:16 |
| wgGuest16 | it worked | 23:16 |
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| @preaction | there's an error before the one you showed probably | 23:16 |
| @preaction | dur... | 23:16 |
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| perlDreamer | then I'd wipe your current site, double check the permissions in the uploads directory, and try again. | 23:17 |
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| wgGuest41 | oops sry back | 23:17 |
| wgGuest41 | in Spectre it tells me it has There are 4 scheduled tasks | 23:17 |
| wgGuest41 | which might be the things i commited to mess around | 23:18 |
| wgGuest41 | do you know if in the spectre.conf the port number needs to be the same as whats beisde my console window? | 23:18 |
| perlDreamer | it needs to be the same number as in the webgui.conf file | 23:18 |
| @preaction | no, that would be bad | 23:18 |
| wgGuest41 | hehe k preaction | 23:19 |
| wgGuest41 | webgui.conf in data/webgui/etc? | 23:19 |
| perlDreamer | yes | 23:19 |
| @preaction | rather <sitename>.conf | 23:19 |
| wgGuest41 | ahyes.. topsub.conf | 23:19 |
| @preaction | henceforth referred to as webgui.conf | 23:20 |
| wgGuest41 | ah yes they are the same.. | 23:20 |
| wgGuest41 | hmm | 23:20 |
| @preaction | if spectre says it has workflows waiting, then it's configured correctly | 23:20 |
| wgGuest41 | ERROR - spectre.conf - POE::Kernel::_dispatch_event[1012] - WORKFLOW: Response for topsub - uZAjHmjQZLG8bGujWm6Ncg had a communications error. | 23:20 |
| wgGuest41 | error still showing up | 23:21 |
| @preaction | is topsub in your /etc/hosts? rather, can the system resolve it? | 23:21 |
| wgGuest41 | let me check | 23:22 |
| @preaction | might want to shut down spectre and then run it in debug mode with: cd /data/WebGUI/sbin; perl spectre.pl --run --debug; | 23:22 |
| @preaction | use the WRE shell.bat file, where ever that it | 23:22 |
| wgGuest41 | k i will try that | 23:22 |
| wgGuest41 | i will stop spectre from console then try that | 23:23 |
| @preaction | i still say it was a package problem | 23:23 |
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| cap10morgan | I have a WRE 0.8.0 tarball for Ubuntu gutsy, where should I upload that? | 23:23 |
| wgGuest41 | well i also created an article and commited that and it didn't show up also | 23:24 |
| wgGuest41 | still get the communication error | 23:24 |
| wgGuest41 | going to try the debug mode see what happens | 23:25 |
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| wgGuest41 | still getting this error.. http://webgui.pastebin.com/m4d8df63a | 23:28 |
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| perlDreamer | yay, I'm a hero | 01:55 |
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| perlDreamer | I just uploaded the world's first small calendar (month) template | 01:57 |
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| CIA-18 | WebGUI: graham * r4984 /WebGUI/ (docs/changelog/7.x.x.txt lib/WebGUI/Asset/Shortcut.pm): fix shortcuts not copying overrides with asset or removing them on purge | 09:48 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: graham * r4985 /branch/ (3 files in 3 dirs): | 09:48 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: Merged revisions 4983 via svnmerge from | 09:48 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: https://svn.webgui.org/plainblack/WebGUI | 09:48 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: ........ | 09:48 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: r4983 | graham | 2007-11-13 12:25:26 -0600 (Tue, 13 Nov 2007) | 2 lines | 09:48 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: fix broken SSL redirection | 09:48 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: ........ | 09:48 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: graham * r4986 /branch/ (3 files in 3 dirs): | 09:48 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: Merged revisions 4984 via svnmerge from | 09:48 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: https://svn.webgui.org/plainblack/WebGUI | 09:48 |
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| CIA-18 | WebGUI: r4984 | graham | 2007-11-15 01:30:15 -0600 (Thu, 15 Nov 2007) | 2 lines | 09:48 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: fix shortcuts not copying overrides with asset or removing them on purge | 09:48 |
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| CIA-18 | WebGUI: graham * r4987 /WebGUI/ (docs/changelog/7.x.x.txt lib/WebGUI/AssetClipboard.pm): fix: Copy operations create version tags even with auto-commit turned on | 10:33 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: graham * r4988 /branch/ (3 files in 3 dirs): | 10:33 |
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| CIA-18 | WebGUI: fix: Copy operations create version tags even with auto-commit turned on | 10:33 |
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| CIA-18 | WebGUI: graham * r4989 /WebGUI/ (docs/changelog/7.x.x.txt lib/WebGUI/Setup.pm): fix: Site starter style displays incorrectly in IE | 11:33 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: graham * r4990 /branch/ (3 files in 3 dirs): | 11:33 |
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| SDuensin | Are we having fun yet? | 16:34 |
| nutrino | yes. lots. | 16:47 |
| nutrino | importing files :/ | 16:47 |
| nutrino | using siteImport script. | 16:47 |
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| cap10morgan | is there a way to enable anonymous checkout in the commerce system? | 22:34 |
| @preaction_ | no | 23:01 |
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| nutrino | is there a known working import script for 7.4.x? | 23:25 |
| nutrino | siteimport.pl is busted. | 23:25 |
| nutrino | assets are created and files are imported, but the content is never imported. | 23:26 |
| @preaction_ | what's "siteimport.pl"? | 23:39 |
| @preaction_ | most likely you're going to have to roll-your-own import script, there's a billion ways to do it | 23:39 |
| nutrino | i thought it was a script that came packaged with webgui. | 23:39 |
| nutrino | i must of picked it up somewhere then... | 23:39 |
| @preaction_ | there's sbin/fileImport.pl, but that's about it | 23:40 |
| BartJol | and user import | 23:42 |
| BartJol | .pl | 23:42 |
| @preaction_ | i wonder how hard it would be to write an htmlImport.pl script that would parse a directory of html files | 23:45 |
| @preaction_ | might be kinda ugly, considering the URL problem | 23:46 |
| BartJol | isn't it easier to use packages? | 23:47 |
| BartJol | can be difficult between version though maybe | 23:47 |
| @preaction_ | or a ZipArchive? | 23:47 |
| @preaction_ | packages are for moving things from one WebGUI to another | 23:47 |
| @preaction_ | not importing things into webgui from html or another system | 23:47 |
| @preaction_ | a ZipArchive could do the HTML importing | 23:48 |
| BartJol | mmm | 23:48 |
| BartJol | well, i wouldn't know | 23:48 |
| BartJol | but it would be great to be able to migrate html into webgui sites | 23:49 |
| BartJol | should be possible | 23:49 |
| @preaction_ | that's what ziparchives do | 23:49 |
| BartJol | lol | 23:49 |
| @preaction_ | or am i channelling some sort of Future WebGUI that doesn't exist yet | 23:50 |
| BartJol | but would css be a pain? | 23:50 |
| BartJol | if it is in the html | 23:50 |
| BartJol | some people do strange things | 23:50 |
| @preaction_ | not sure how the CSS is handled, inline CSS would be fine. not sure about <link rel="stylesheet"> | 23:50 |
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| +Radix_ | http://www.dilbert.com/comics/dilbert/archive/images/dilbert2007166671115.gif | 01:28 |
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| +perlDreamer | one of you PB types may want to have a look at the demo server. there may be some config file problems with spectre. | 05:07 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: colin * r4995 /branch/WebGUI_7.4/ (lib/WebGUI/Operation/Spectre.pm t/Utility.t): | 06:48 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: A whole bunch of coverage tests for Utility.pm, including the | 06:48 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: heretofore untested isInSubnet. | 06:48 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: Better handling of bad config data in Operation/Spectre.pm | 06:48 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: colin * r4996 /WebGUI/ (lib/WebGUI/Operation/Spectre.pm t/Utility.t): forward port of branch work with Utility.pm and isInSubnet | 06:48 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: colin * r4997 /WebGUI/ (lib/WebGUI/Utility.pm t/Utility.t): add a test for makeArrayTabSafe and add comments to WebGUI::Utility | 07:33 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: colin * r4998 /branch/WebGUI_7.4/ (lib/WebGUI/Utility.pm t/Utility.t): backport new Utility tests and POD docs | 07:33 |
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| CIA-18 | WebGUI: graham * r4999 /WebGUI/ (2 files in 2 dirs): fix: Calendar feed list doesn't display in IE | 09:18 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: graham * r5000 /branch/ (3 files in 3 dirs): | 09:33 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: Merged revisions 4999 via svnmerge from | 09:33 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: https://svn.webgui.org/plainblack/WebGUI | 09:33 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: ........ | 09:33 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: r4999 | graham | 2007-11-16 01:11:04 -0600 (Fri, 16 Nov 2007) | 1 line | 09:33 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: fix: Calendar feed list doesn't display in IE | 09:33 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: ........ | 09:33 |
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| SDuensin | Morning. | 15:33 |
| +MrHairgrease | hi | 15:33 |
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| nutrino | OK. anyone else getting cannot connect to DB errors since upgrading to 7.4.11? | 17:19 |
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| perlDreamer | O'Reilly is launching a new conference, for web performance and operations | 23:47 |
| perlDreamer | http://radar.oreilly.com/archives/2007/11/oreilly_launche_1.html | 23:47 |
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| chris_punches | Anyway, it won't happen again. Please lift the ban. I'm asking you in here because you aren't responding to my pm's, and are using that as an excuse to rationalize the ban. | 02:46 |
| chris_punches | preaction, plz unban me in #css, I didn't do anything wrong. I'm just looking for documentation on how to fix my problem. I don't know if you've had a bad day or what, but that's a little uncalled for. I pmed you the url because I haven't protected my site against mysql injection attacks. sorry for pmming it to you, but I don't think that's worthy of a ban. I understand #CSS is a busy channel, but I really need help on ho | 02:46 |
| chris_punches | w to figure out my problem. Please be more understanding. | 02:46 |
| chris_punches | hello? | 02:52 |
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| cap10morgan | Has anyone seen a "child pid #### exit signal Bus error (10)" when trying to start the modproxy server in 0.8.0 in OS X 10.5 intel? | 02:39 |
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| Acolytee | anyone home? | 00:05 |
| Acolytee | guys, when I start visual studio, where does .wgx file is located at? | 00:10 |
| +MrHairgrease | you must be posting your question in the wrong channel. | 00:13 |
| +MrHairgrease | This is the webgui channel | 00:13 |
| Acolytee | yes.. | 00:17 |
| Acolytee | that's what I'm using. | 00:17 |
| Acolytee | public partial class Form1 : Gizmox.WebGUI.Forms.Form | 00:17 |
| Acolytee | using visual studio to create the form. then run it. but when I run, it doesn't have images in sub-folder. | 00:18 |
| +MrHairgrease | i don't know what you are talking about | 00:18 |
| +MrHairgrease | what is your webgui related question? | 00:19 |
| Acolytee | when I start the page (i.e. its opened in Internet Explorer), where is the physical folder is located in which Form1.wgx is? | 00:19 |
| Acolytee | i.e. c:\docs & settings\etc | 00:20 |
| nuba | maybe not talking about the same WebGUI.. | 00:20 |
| +MrHairgrease | that could be indeed | 00:20 |
| Acolytee | visual webgui? | 00:20 |
| +MrHairgrease | this is the channel about the webgui web application framework | 00:20 |
| +MrHairgrease | webgui.org | 00:20 |
| +MrHairgrease | no | 00:20 |
| +MrHairgrease | not visual webgui | 00:20 |
| Acolytee | damn | 00:20 |
| +MrHairgrease | hehe | 00:20 |
| nuba | ditch visual stdio, |
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