WebGUI irc logs from: 2006-09.log

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maxsciencehi16:41
+MrHairgreasehi16:43
maxscienceI'm still struggling with that variable img tag....16:45
maxscienceis someone willing to do this as a custom job?16:46
+MrHairgreaseno time16:46
maxscience:( But I'm surprised by this.... WebGUI Macro should solve that just fine. It's such a basic thing16:47
maxscienceand/or Navigation asset16:48
+MrHairgreaseok, you may be surprised16:48
+MrHairgreasebut I'm very busy =)16:49
maxscienceeheh ok16:49
+MrHairgreasewhat was the problem again?16:49
+MrHairgreaseyou needed two templates for one article right?16:49
maxscienceNo I solved that16:49
+MrHairgreaseoh16:49
+MrHairgreasein that case I dunno the problem16:50
maxscienceit's another problem I had...16:50
maxsciencehere http://www.plainblack.com/web_design_templates_and_themes/variable-header16:50
+MrHairgreaseuse a snippet16:52
+MrHairgreasecontaining the topheader16:52
+MrHairgreaseor even better16:52
+MrHairgreaseteh css for each topheader16:52
maxscienceyes but the top header should be variable.. That's the problem. Actually just an img tag in the header is changing from section to section of the website16:53
+MrHairgreaseok16:53
+MrHairgreaseso try this16:53
xdanger_maxscience: wanna my macro? I just stripped it for you =)16:53
maxscienceso I have to use X style templates or X snippets? I didn't want to do that.. I looked for a better solution so I just have one template16:53
maxsciencereally?? :)16:53
+MrHairgreasestep one16:54
+MrHairgreasetweak your style so the image is the background image of a div or td or so16:54
+MrHairgreaseattach an id to that element16:54
xdanger_maxscience: http://rafb.net/paste/results/kl2GQM90.html16:54
+MrHairgreasecreate a css file for each image (as a snippet)16:55
+MrHairgreaseuse javascript to select a random css file16:55
+MrHairgreaseworks like a charm16:55
maxsciencemmh is xdanger macro a simpler solution?16:55
xdanger_MrHairgrease: take a quick peek at my awesome macro ;)16:55
maxsciencethank you xdanger!! Can you please tell me how to use it?16:56
+MrHairgreaseso16:57
+MrHairgreasewhat does it do?16:57
xdanger_in that, you create a template with <tmpl_if nextToRoot.products><img src="products.jpg></tmpl_if>16:57
maxscienceit works on WebGUI 7.0.6 right?16:57
+MrHairgreaseget the toplevel page16:57
maxscienceI have this structure:16:57
maxscienceHome -> Section 1 -> Article 116:58
maxscienceHome -> Section 2 -> Article16:58
xdanger_the products being the url that you have under home16:58
maxscienceHome -> Section 3 -> Article 1 -> CS16:58
maxscienceAnd for each Section X -> Article X -> Page X I have an img tag at the header...16:59
xdanger_that only accounts for difference between sections16:59
-!- You're now known as xdanger16:59
maxscienceDoes your macro fits this case?17:00
xdangerI meant to say that that macro only accounts differences between sections17:00
xdangerif you want to have different images in different Articles, then no.17:01
maxscienceno I just want to have an image for each section and its descendants...17:01
maxscienceso Section 1 has header1.jpg17:02
maxscienceSection 1 -> Article 1 has header1.jpg17:03
maxscienceSection 2 has header 2.jpg17:03
maxscienceetc.17:03
xdangeryes, that works17:03
maxsciencewow let me try it then!! :) I'm installing it17:04
maxscienceso no other Macro in WebGUI 7.0.6 is able to do that17:04
maxsciencestandard ones I mean17:04
xdangerWe'll that is an easy solution that I used =)17:07
xdangerand it works on 6.8 and I belive that there wasn't any API changes between 6.8->7.0 in Macros17:07
maxscienceok so I can be your tester for 7! =)17:08
maxscienceI have to add this line to the mydomain.conf file right? "xnav" : "xnav"17:10
maxscienceso in my case I can use <tmpl_if nextToRoot.section1><img src="header1.jpg"></tmpl_if>17:13
maxsciencebut will it work for Section 1 -> Page 1-> Page 2?17:16
maxscienceor just for Section 1 -> Page 1?17:16
xdangerthat will work for all under section117:22
+MrHairgreaseI think you can do the same with a navigation asset17:44
+MrHairgreasebtw17:44
+MrHairgreaseset start point to root17:45
+MrHairgreaseset the offset to /a/17:45
+MrHairgreaseand select descendents17:45
xdangerbut then you have to use If macro or something like that17:47
+MrHairgreasewhy?17:47
+MrHairgreaselet's see if I understand the problem correctly17:48
+MrHairgreaseyou have root > topLevel1 > imageForLevel117:48
+MrHairgreaseso the page root> toplevel1> mypage17:48
+MrHairgreaseshould show imageForlevel117:49
+MrHairgreaseand so does root> toplevel1> mypage > yet anotherpage17:49
+MrHairgreaseright17:49
+MrHairgreaseditto for other branches17:49
+MrHairgreaseright?17:49
xdangeryep17:50
+MrHairgreasein that case the nav should work17:50
+MrHairgreasecreate a template:17:50
+MrHairgrease<tmpl_loop page_loop>17:51
+MrHairgrease<tmpl_var page.url>/image.png17:51
+MrHairgrease</tmpl_loop>17:51
+MrHairgrease<tmpl_var page.url>/image.png17:51
+MrHairgreaseshould be 17:51
+MrHairgrease<img src="<tmpl_var page.url>/image.png"> btw17:51
xdangerwell thats correct =)17:52
+MrHairgreaseit is a bit heavier than just a macro though17:52
xdangerbut I needed to have different html for each section, that's the reason I did that macro17:52
+MrHairgreasebut the upgrades will be much easier17:52
+MrHairgreaseoh ok17:52
xdangerit's not that large macro =)17:57
+MrHairgreasei was saying the macro is faster than using nav17:57
+MrHairgreaseoh wait17:57
+MrHairgreaseyou for upgrading17:57
+MrHairgreaseyeah17:57
+MrHairgreaseit isn't17:57
xdangeractually that's the stripped version, there is another function in my version17:58
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maxsciencehey I'm back19:43
maxscienceI already tried with navigation19:45
maxsciencebut it doesn't really work19:45
maxscienceso I'll try your macro xdanger19:45
maxscienceare you there xdanger?19:46
maxscienceYou have to call the macro before you can use thoe tmpl vars you indicated?19:47
xdangeryou have to have a template in the template folder20:07
xdangerand then vall the macro ^xnav(template_url);20:08
maxscienceok and the template folder should be named Macro/xnav?20:09
maxscienceI added this line to the conf file  "xnav" : "xnav"20:10
xdangeryes20:12
xdangerthat should do it20:12
maxscienceok and for the template type (namespace) I'm adding a new value Nav/xnav20:12
maxscienceis this correct?20:12
xdangerI'm not sure, but the templates namespace should also be xnav20:12
maxscienceI did Macro/xnav20:13
xdangerI don't think it matters =)20:13
maxsciencereally? oh :)20:13
xdangersince the macro calls it by url20:13
maxscienceok wow I can't wait to see if it works20:13
xdangerthe namespace is mainly to list templates under the relevant namespace20:14
maxscienceah ok :)20:14
maxsciencedamn it doesn't work :(20:15
maxscienceit seems WebGUI does not parse it... I get the the text on the html page display ^xnav(root/import/macro/xnav/xnav);20:15
maxscienceI also restarted WebGUI...20:15
maxsciencethe WRE actually20:16
xdangerdid you check the filerights?20:18
maxscienceoh true let me see20:18
maxsciencebut wait I see that there is another Macro directory in the "t" directory with all standard Macros...20:19
maxscienceyes it has the same filerights as the other macros20:23
maxscienceaha now I activated debugging mode in WebGUI and it seems that your macro has a bug20:26
maxsciencedoes not work under version 7 :(20:26
xdangerthe "t" folder is testes20:26
maxscienceyes saw that :)20:26
xdangerwhat does it say?20:26
maxscienceProcessing failed on macro: ^xnav(root/import/macro/xnav/xnav);: Undefined subroutine &WebGUI::Macro::xnav::process called at /data/WebGUI/lib/WebGUI/Macro.pm line 145.20:26
maxsciencethis line is repeated 10 times20:27
xdangerjust a moment21:12
maxscienceok thanks :)21:13
xdangerthere _was_ a change in API =D21:13
xdangermaxscience: try this: http://rafb.net/paste/results/UfFaLh28.html21:20
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@snapcountgreetings peeps22:14
maxsciencehi snapcount22:38
maxsciencexdanger I'm back.. Thanks! I'll try that out22:38
maxsciencesame error repeated 10 times :( Processing failed on macro: ^xnav(root/import/macro/xnav/imgintestazione);: Undefined subroutine &WebGUI::Macro::xnav::process called at /data/WebGUI/lib/WebGUI/Macro.pm line 145.22:43
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xdangermaxscience: you did name it xnav.pm ?23:29
maxscienceyes I modified the previous file and it's xnav.pm23:30
xdangermaxscience: there is a typo in line 23, $sessions should be $session23:36
xdangersorry about that23:36
xdangerhad to instal 7.0 mys elf =)23:36
maxscienceyahooooo :D it works!23:39
maxscienceI also had to restart wre23:39
maxsciencelet me see if it works for other pages too23:39
maxsciencewow thanks so much xdanger!!23:43
xdangersorry about the typo thou...23:46
xdangerdon't have 7.0 myself23:46
xdangerso just improvised it23:46
maxscience:)23:46
maxsciencewhy you don't upgrade to 7? Too many dependencies on old APIs?23:47
xdangercustom asset, lazyness23:48
maxscience:)23:48
xdangerwaiting for you guys to find out the bugs, so that I don't have to fix them ;)23:48
maxscienceeheh yeah I posted some23:49
maxscienceI like WebGUI... But for some things it looks so basic...23:49
maxscienceFor example I need to display the same asset using different templates on different areas of the site... Only the Article asset has a tmpl variable to call a different template view23:51
maxscienceor I can do that using Packages?23:51
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maxsciencec you tomorrow and thanks again!00:13
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maxsciencehi12:27
maxscienceyo xdanger are you there?12:27
xdangeryup13:29
maxscienceyour macro rocks! :D13:30
xdangerand btw. for your template problem... If you use shourtcut, you can override some settings of the original asset13:31
xdangerthanks =)13:31
maxscienceit's a trick to display the same assets under different templates?13:32
xdangerI belive so13:32
xdangernot sure =)13:32
maxsciencek13:32
xdangeryes it is ;)13:37
xdangerhttp://demo.plainblack.com/demo1157193197_548/home13:37
xdangeryou have to insert the templateId in the overrides, but you can do it13:37
maxsciencein the overrides?13:39
xdangera new tab in the shourtcuts properties13:40
maxscienceaha.. I'll check that out thanks13:40
maxsciencebtw you can give RSS feeds just for your CS assets?14:31
xdangeryes14:46
maxscienceno Articles :(14:46
xdangeryou can create a navigation that does that14:47
xdangerIt's been disscussed in the boards sometime ago14:47
maxscienceyeah mmmh :( I guess it will be better to do all with CS with custom tmpls14:47
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maxsciencehi18:20
maxsciencehave you ever used the RandomThread macro?18:20
xdangernope, I've written my own with sql macro =P18:22
maxscienceoh :(18:22
maxscienceI'm looking for a method to display the last published CS or the last published Article18:23
xdangerah, sql macro it is then ;)18:25
maxsciencedarn I'm no developer :(18:26
maxscienceso the news piece you see on the homepage of plainblack.com is done using the SQL Macro...18:31
xdangeror a custom macro18:37
maxscienceso the RandomThread Macro can't do that with custom templates? :(18:39
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xdangermaxscience: I don't know19:01
maxscienceok :)19:04
maxsciencethe Message Board template has an if_ODD_ variable... And it seems to prevent the right view...19:32
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maxsciencehey16:16
maxsciencehave you played with Collaboration templates?16:16
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Radix-wrkAww.. Steve Irwin died - apparently a sting ray got him.  Bet the crocodiles are pretty annoyed - I'm sure they wanted him.10:32
+crythiasack11:01
+crythiasso sad11:01
+crythiasafter all he's been through, this is almost fitting, yet bizarre.11:02
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maxscienceyo12:41
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maxsciencehi crythias13:01
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maxsciencehey crythias16:49
maxsciencecould you help me with Message Board asset? I think there's a bug in it16:49
+crythiasperhaps16:49
maxscienceyou see here?16:50
maxsciencehttp://www.plainblack.com/discuss16:50
maxsciencebut it doesn't diplay like that...16:50
maxsciencethere an if __ODD__ tmpl variable in the Message Board template that prevents this view16:51
maxscienceI don't know what ODD refers to16:51
+crythias...?16:54
+crythiasalternating bands?16:54
maxscienceyep16:56
maxsciencemmmh got it now :)16:56
+crythiasa loop has an increment... ODD is the "count" of the loop.16:56
maxscienceok thx16:56
+crythiasevery other one.16:56
+crythias<TMPL_IF __ODD__>{blue}</TMPL_IF>16:57
+crythiasdon't forget to use it twice to close the {blue} tag, if necessary.16:58
+crythias{blue} is not a tag, btw. It's just a symbolic representation because I'm too lazy to type it out.16:59
maxscienceeheh yeah17:00
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maxsciencedo you know how WRE works when adding new sites? What's the functionality? A different webgui root?18:15
+MrHairgreaseI haven't tried it18:28
+MrHairgreasebut it prlly generates a seperate conf in the etc dir18:28
+MrHairgreaseand a seperate www root18:29
+MrHairgreaseor uploads diretory18:29
pjesiwebgui + gentoo == problems ?18:53
maxscience:D18:58
pjesiheh19:07
maxsciencethere is a mainteinance mode in WebGUI?19:13
maxscienceprobably someone made a custom script for it if I remember well19:13
pjesiare no documentation available online for webdesign in WebGUI?19:14
maxsciencehttp://www.plainblack.com/designers19:15
pjesithis says nothing19:16
pjesinot looking for XHTML/CSS guides19:16
maxsciencewhat then19:17
maxscienceyou're asking about template variables?19:17
pjesiI have XHTML/CSS template for joomla19:17
pjesiwant to migrate it to webgui19:17
maxscienceok you can find some tmpl variables documentation in WebGUI help files. But you have to install it first19:18
maxscienceMay I ask why you want to migrate from joomla?19:18
pjesidont like php19:19
pjesidont like joomla19:19
maxscienceeheh but why19:19
pjesinot unicode19:19
pjesisecurity issues19:19
maxscienceyep19:19
pjesipermissions are poor19:20
pjesionly linear19:20
pjesicore code outputs tables19:20
pjesicontent hierarchy is limited to section/cat/content19:21
xdangerhehe, I like you =)19:21
pjesiIm hoping that webgui solves my problems19:21
pjesibut I'm afraid that it is not multilingual19:22
xdangerI dislike almost everything related to php =)19:22
pjesisame19:22
xdangerhow do you mean multilingual?19:22
maxscienceit has multilanguage support... Of course you have to translate it into another language if no one did it :D19:23
maxsciencewhich language you need?19:23
pjesican one installation be in many languages?19:24
pjesineed to be able to switch languages from the site19:24
pjesiand translate content19:24
maxscienceNot really.. Each user can switch interface language19:25
maxsciencebut not content language.. You have to create a root for each language you want19:25
maxsciencewhich languages you need?19:25
pjesiwhat about users that are not registered?19:25
pjesimaxscience: all the languages in the Arctic19:25
pjesi:D19:25
maxscienceYou can edit the default language value for user "Visitor" in its profile19:26
maxscienceeach non logged in user is a "Visitor" user19:26
xdangerpjesi: take a look at: http://datapartner.fi/19:26
maxscienceArctic? wow19:26
pjesimaxscience: big project19:26
maxscienceEnglish, French, Italian?19:27
xdangeronly problem is that errors and 404 are in english only...19:27
xdangerbut you can also do multible webgui sites, each for different language19:27
pjesisaami, russian, icelandic...19:27
xdangero, saami =)19:28
pjesixdanger: that seems like a too much ad-hoc solution19:28
maxscienceyep it is unfortunately19:28
maxscienceWebGUI has lots of noob gaps :D19:28
xdangermy main problems with webgui are related to multilingual sites...19:28
pjesiok19:29
maxsciencewhy not push for some more advanced multilingual options?19:29
maxsciencein future WebGUI releases19:29
xdangerThere should be a language setting for branches...19:29
maxscienceon-the-fly language switch for user...19:30
pjesiI'm also using ePrints for this project19:30
xdangeryep... Hmm... at which point are Macros run?-)19:30
pjesiit has nice multilingual support19:31
+crythiasgrr19:32
+crythiasI just spent about 2 hours working on someone's site then committed changes and they disappeared.19:32
pjesiIf I could manage to cram CMS functionality into eprints then all my problems would go farfar away :)19:33
xdangernice to have versioning ;)19:33
+crythiasactually, I don't think spectre is running on their site19:38
+MrHairgreasejust start spectre19:39
+MrHairgreaseand your content will reapear19:40
+MrHairgreasewhat is eprints btw?19:40
+MrHairgreasesome kind of document version control?19:40
pjesiit is a repository19:41
+MrHairgreasedo you have an url?19:41
pjesihttp://www.eprints.org/software/19:42
+MrHairgreaseok, thnaks19:43
+MrHairgreasehaving multilanguage support in webgui has been discussed before19:44
+MrHairgreaseon the dev list19:44
+MrHairgreasebut that time it seemed too complex for webgui purpose19:44
pjesieprints uses xml to describe all text19:44
pjesivery easy to translate19:45
+MrHairgreasethe problem is not so much the data container19:45
+MrHairgreasebut more the integration19:45
+MrHairgreaseat least19:45
+MrHairgreaseafaik19:45
+MrHairgreaseyou could submit a rfe on the plainb;acl site19:47
+MrHairgrease(if there isn't already one_19:47
+MrHairgreasenext week I'm going to the webgui users conference, and i'll talk to some guys about this thing.19:47
+MrHairgreasebut don't get any hopes up19:48
+MrHairgreaseof getting this thing implemented soon19:48
pjesiI have not hopes19:48
+MrHairgreaseor at all19:48
pjesiok that was bad english19:48
+MrHairgreasedoesn't matter19:48
pjesi:)19:48
+MrHairgreasemy english also sucks times19:48
xdangerlikewise19:49
+MrHairgreasewho cares anyway, as long as people understand my babble I'm happ =)19:49
+MrHairgreasexdanger, yeah I know =)19:49
pjesiwill I be able to construct sections that are only editable to some group without any problems?19:49
+crythiasyes19:49
+MrHairgreaseyes19:49
+MrHairgreaseha19:49
xdangerMrHairgrease: sometimes just don't want to stop to think how to write the thing, could forget it ;)19:50
+MrHairgreaseso that prolly means it is possible19:50
pjesi:)19:50
pjesiman all those perl modules...19:50
+crythiasre: languages how would you want to implement that anyway?19:50
+MrHairgreasethe only module that is a bitch to install in libapreq219:51
+crythiasyou'd have to either do manual translation or machine translation.19:51
+MrHairgreasestated better: a bitch to compile19:51
+crythiasand libapreq2 is easy if you copy the header files...19:51
+crythias:)19:51
+MrHairgreasewell, since machine translation sucks19:51
+MrHairgreasei'd opt for human translation19:52
+crythiaswhich means that you'd have to duplicate layout.19:52
+MrHairgreaseto store diffrent translations my best guess at the top of my head is19:52
+MrHairgreaseuse the versioning system for it.19:52
+MrHairgreasewhy do you need dupe layout?19:53
+crythiaspackage/redeploy/translate19:53
+crythias?19:53
+MrHairgreasei don't understand19:54
+MrHairgreaselayout is in templates19:54
+crythiascreate in english, make a package,...19:54
+MrHairgreasehtml is the same for all languages19:54
+crythiaswell, yeah, I meant something different.19:54
+MrHairgreasenow if you were to have hardcoded texts in your layout...19:54
+MrHairgreasethat's a diffrent thing19:55
+MrHairgreasebut you could solve that using snippets19:55
+MrHairgreasewhich would be a much better solution anyway19:55
+MrHairgreaseseperate content from layout19:55
+crythiasahh yeah19:55
+MrHairgreasecrythias19:56
+MrHairgreaseare you going to the wuc?19:56
+crythiasI can't :*( I want to soo bad19:56
+MrHairgreaseoh man19:56
+MrHairgreasethat sucks19:56
+crythiasyeah. too much going on here.19:56
+MrHairgreasenow you'll never know how to operate the sqlform =)19:56
+MrHairgreasehmm19:56
+MrHairgreasejob obligations?19:56
+crythiasand I was at the time of registration trying to determine if I was house hunting.19:57
+MrHairgreasehouse hunting as in moving?19:58
+crythiasyeah19:58
+crythiasI was planning to be in Houston at the time. but I can't leave to do oth things.19:59
+MrHairgreaseyour moving to houston?19:59
+MrHairgreaseyou're*19:59
+crythiaswas considering it.19:59
+MrHairgreasewhy20:00
+MrHairgreasefelt the urge to drink beers with cowboys?20:00
+MrHairgrease=)20:00
+crythiasfor a yard :) 20:00
+crythiascan't afford a yard in FL20:00
+MrHairgreaseyard as in a big garden?20:00
+MrHairgreasepls excuse my lack of english comprehension =)20:00
+crythiasas in a 1/4 acre or so plot of land that my little one can run around.20:00
+crythias(I live in a condo)20:01
+MrHairgreaseare you trying to breed an athlete? =)20:01
+crythiasmost of that would be occupied by a house :)20:01
+MrHairgreasehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Condo20:02
+MrHairgreaseaha20:02
+MrHairgreasei understand20:02
+MrHairgreasebig step to take man20:02
+crythiascondo= owned apartment.20:03
+MrHairgreasebut you postponeed the decision20:03
+MrHairgreaseyeah I figured so much20:03
+crythiaswell, postponed, not so much as lack of planning.20:03
+MrHairgreaseok20:03
+crythiashmm... hunger calls on this labor day, so I want to see who is open for food biz today..20:05
+MrHairgreaseok20:06
+MrHairgreasebon apetit20:06
+crythiasmay wee20:07
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maxsciencehey21:17
maxsciencewhat's really a prototype?21:17
+crythias?21:28
maxscienceunder the Metadata tab of an Asset21:30
+crythiasgrr22:09
+crythiasmy im isn't warning me when new posts22:09
+crythiasprototype is a configuration snapshot of an asset type to reuse, I think.22:10
+crythiasif you make configuration changes to an asset type, you can prototype it so you don't have to set those settings again.22:11
maxsciencemmh this isn't a package?22:24
+MrHairgreasenope22:35
+MrHairgreaseit's just an asset with the properties already set22:35
+MrHairgreasetry it, and it'll become clear22:36
+MrHairgreaseit can be very handy in case of collab system assets especially22:36
maxscienceyeah that's what I'm trying to use22:39
maxscienceunfortunately they don't deploy22:39
maxscienceI already posted a bug for this22:39
+crythiasit's not deploy.22:40
+crythiasit should show up as a new asset type22:40
maxsciencewell when you click on a package link the url function shows as deploy22:40
maxscienceanyway it doesn't add to the page22:41
maxsciencePoll assets packages add just fine22:41
maxscienceCS packages do not :(22:41
+crythias   it's not a package22:43
+crythiasit's a "New Asset" of the name of the prototype22:45
+crythiasI created a new CS called it "Let's Talk" and saved it as a prototype. committed changes.22:45
+crythiasnow I have a "Let's Talk" New Content type.22:46
maxsciencewell when I click on a CS package in the Admin bar, it doesn't add to the page. While the Poll one adds just fine22:46
+crythiasdid you make a package or a prototype?22:47
+crythiasif you packaged a prototype, it shoudl likely never show up.22:47
+crythiasshould22:47
+MrHairgreasegood luck guys22:49
+MrHairgreasegotta go and drink some beers22:50
+MrHairgreaselife == good =)22:50
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maxscienceNo I just made it a package in fact it shows up in the Package tab of the Admin bar23:23
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pjesiUnsatisfied dependencies detected during [J/JO/JOESUF/libapreq2-2.07.tar.gz]11:33
pjesiwtf11:33
pjesimod_perl11:33
Radix-wrkuse the WRE :)11:33
pjesiwell11:34
pjesiif I had private server for this then yes maybe, but probably not11:34
xdangerlibapreq2 is a pain in the arse to install11:51
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pjesiemerge libapreq212:03
pjesi:)12:03
xdangerI meant to say, from cpan ;)12:04
pjesibefore I go any further with this, I have 3 column layout (1-2-1), how difficult is it to implement in webgui?12:08
xdangernot hard =)12:08
xdangerthere is a layout template and a page template12:08
pjesiand I want the calendar, navigation and such on the sides12:09
pjesiwithout any hazzle12:09
pjesistupid cpan12:16
pjesiDONE!12:43
pjesi:)12:43
pjesixdanger: now where do I find the template files?12:45
xdangerin the database =)12:45
pjesiwhat12:45
pjesireally12:45
xdangerof course12:45
pjesiand how do you edit it?12:46
xdangerin webgui12:47
xdangerweb is all you need =P12:47
xdangereverything (almost) is an asset, and you can edit pretty much everything right in webgui12:48
pjesimkay12:49
pjesilooks like I have some errors12:49
pjesithe images for copy edit delete ... are missing12:50
pjesiand the admin bar does not appear12:50
xdangerhave you Alias /extras ?12:50
pjesino12:51
xdangerin apache Alias /data/WebGUI/www/extras/ /extras12:51
xdangeror was it the other way around =)12:52
xdangeror was it extra12:52
pjesiAlias /extras12:54
pjesixdanger: can you point me to were in the admin console I modify the look and feel?12:57
pjesior to some documentation how sites are styled12:58
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xdangerpjesi: you should start with Admin Console -> Assets (manager) -> go rot root -> goto Import node -> goto Templates -> style -> copy the default style and edit it..14:46
xdangerand then apply that to your pages... edit a page, and choose that style template in the display tab14:47
xdangerpjesi: have a look at these: http://www.plainblack.com/content-managers14:47
xdangerdamn, iTransact is US-only14:52
pjesiI mangaged to get my style template into the beast :)15:10
xdangergood for you ;)15:21
pjesi:)15:22
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pjesiif you want my right column to be the same on all pages then I put it in the style template rather than layout template right?15:23
ckotilthat sounds correct15:24
xdangeryes15:24
xdangerAnd you can use the ^AssetProxy(url); macro to include dynamic stuff there15:24
pjesilet say I put ^AssetProxy(home/calendar); there and it is set to Master, will it change as I browse down the site?15:25
ckotiltheres an option called edit branch.15:26
xdangernope15:26
pjesiok15:26
ckotilthat is. if its int he style template then any asset using that styler template will see the change15:26
ckotilanyone know any good anti spam/email harvesting solutions? I want to put email addresses into an article, but dont want them to be harvested (easily)15:33
xdanger^Emask macro?-)15:34
ckotilawsome , ill check that out. thanks15:34
xdangernot sure if It's updated to v7 yet15:35
ckotilah...15:35
xdangerbut, it's not a big deal =)15:35
ckotilcuz i just searched through my conf and couldnt find it.15:35
ckotilok15:35
xdangerI can update it for you if you like15:35
ckotiloh man that would great.15:36
xdangerckotil: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/7TSGfB98.html15:44
xdangerAgain, that should work, haven't tested it =P15:44
xdangerplace it as lib/WebGUI/Macro/Emask.pm15:45
xdangerand edit conf acordingly15:45
xdangerckotil: here is the "help": https://www.plainblack.com/emask_-_email_address_masking15:47
ckotilthanks man.15:48
xdangermaybe I should post these on the contributions board =)16:03
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pjesiman this is starting to look interesting16:11
ckotilyou should ;]16:14
Radix_I'd like to see them too xdanger16:23
xdangerI'll have test them before I can "go public" =)16:31
pjesiany included breadcrumbs?16:39
ckotiltheres a crumb trail navigation asset. its nice16:40
xdangernavigation is your friend, learn to love/hate it16:44
xdangerIt's quite tricky, but test&trial will teach you =)16:44
pjesinice16:44
ckotilindeed16:47
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maxsciencehey17:34
maxscienceany clues on how to migrate an existing perl script to WRE?17:34
ckotilI also would like to know.17:42
maxscience:(17:45
ckotilcreate is a wobject is what everyone tells me17:45
ckotilbut thats hard17:45
maxscienceNo I don't mean how to migrate a script to WebGUI.. I mean to the WRE17:46
maxscienceso it runs outside of the WebGUI context17:46
ckotiloh oh17:47
ckotili dont run the wre. so i just add a new directive to apaches httpd.conf17:47
maxsciencewhich one?17:50
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pjesiI managed to screw things up :)17:52
pjesirestarted without commiting17:52
ckotil<directory> something like that17:52
xdangerOptions +ExecCGI (or something like that...)17:53
xdangeralso enable mod_cgi17:53
maxscienceyou're running WRE xdanger?17:53
ckotilexactly17:53
xdangerI'm runing a "hybrid" =P17:54
xdangerwe have a generic hosting enviroment and some domain proxy to webgui =P17:54
xdangerwich is running on WRE17:54
maxscienceoh17:55
xdanger+ couple of modifications17:55
pjesican I force unlocking?17:56
xdangerunlocking?17:57
pjesiyes I cannot edit items that I was working on before I restarted the machine17:57
xdangercheck your version tag, on the adminbar 17:58
xdangeryou can return to edit your previous edits17:58
xdangerand then have to commit them..17:58
xdangeryou have spectre running?17:58
pjesiI think so17:58
xdangeryou must have spectre running ;)17:58
xdangerperl sbin/spectre.pl --ping17:59
xdangerrun that17:59
xdangerin webgui folder17:59
maxsciencethis if he doesn't run the wre17:59
maxsciencecause if the does, the path to perl is different17:59
maxsciencehe17:59
xdangerthere should be some big blinking label if spectre isn't running =) imho17:59
pjesiit is not running17:59
xdangermaxscience: you can load the correct path to your bash session18:00
pjesiit is now18:00
xdangerrun: . sbin/setenviroment.sh (or something like that)18:00
xdangerI'm being a helpdesk again on my worktime =D18:01
maxscienceyeah I know :)18:01
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pjesiimage uploading seems to be broken18:23
pjesiI uploaded "image" under Home, but the file location returns 40418:26
pjesiUse of uninitialized value in concatenation (.) or string at /data/WebGUI/lib/WebGUI/Storage.pm line 542.18:29
xdangerwrite privileges on the uploads folder?18:50
xdangerfor apache?18:50
pjesigod18:53
pjesiis that the only folder that apache needs?18:53
pjesiid didn't make any difference18:56
xdangeryou should upload again18:58
xdanger;)18:58
pjesiI did18:58
xdangerIs the file in correct location?18:59
pjesiNew Content -> Image18:59
xdangerI mean do you find it from shell?18:59
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maxsciencehi19:01
+MrHairgreasehey19:01
maxsciencedo you run WRE?19:01
+MrHairgreaseno19:01
pjesi<img src="/uploads/QO/94/QO94c20Qre-cNPWa1utIfA/" style="border-style:none;" alt="logo" />19:01
maxscienceI have to migrate a perl script to the wre :(19:01
pjesiyou mean this location?19:01
+MrHairgreasebut I compiled it for kubuntu last weekend19:01
+MrHairgreasewhy is that bad19:02
+MrHairgrease?19:02
+MrHairgreaseand what kind of script is it?19:02
maxscienceMy webserver now serves this perl app under subdomain.mydomain.com19:02
xdangerpjesi: there should be a file after that =)19:02
maxscienceI already copied its database from the old mysql to the new WRE mysql19:03
xdangerdid you run the chmod with -R ?19:03
+MrHairgreaseok19:03
pjesixdanger: there is no such folder uploads/QO19:03
+MrHairgreasebut that shouldn't matter19:03
xdangerok, you have the uploads folder correctly in the conf?19:03
xdangerpoints to the right uploads folder?19:03
+MrHairgreaseit's just a normal apache/mysq/mod_perl installation19:03
maxscienceso now I have to create a mod proxy file  under wre/etc?19:03
+MrHairgreasei dunno19:03
+MrHairgreasedepends on what you want19:04
maxsciencewell now 19:04
maxscienceMy webserver now serves this perl app under subdomain.mydomain.com19:04
+MrHairgreaseif you have your webapp at antoher ip than it used to be19:04
maxscienceno it's the same ip19:04
pjesichmod -R apache:apache 19:04
+MrHairgreasethen i don't see the problem19:04
maxscienceI just want that the WRE apache is able to serve it as before19:04
+MrHairgreaseyeah i understand19:04
maxsciencethe problem is that I don't know how to do that...19:05
maxscienceI might create a mod proxy file but I don't know if it works...19:05
+MrHairgreasei would try to include the vhost section of the old httpd.conf19:05
+MrHairgreaseand include that in your new httpd.conf19:05
+MrHairgreasemaybe you should change some paths or so19:05
maxscienceyeah that's what I'm doing right now.. But I'm not including it under the new httpd.conf19:05
+MrHairgreaseapache == apache19:05
+MrHairgreaseok19:05
+MrHairgreasebut it errors somehow?19:06
maxscienceyes but the WRE apache has special settings19:06
+MrHairgreaseaha19:06
+MrHairgreaseic19:06
maxsciencewell I still have to restart it to see if it works :) But I don't want to do any mess19:06
+MrHairgreaseand those settings are conflicting with your app19:06
+MrHairgreaseif you don't try you will never know19:06
maxscienceyeah I know eheh19:07
maxsciencelet's see19:07
+MrHairgreaseanother possibility is this scenario:19:07
+MrHairgreaserun your old webserver on the same ip19:07
+MrHairgreasebut a diffrent port19:07
maxscienceI'm already doing that19:07
+MrHairgrease8080 fo instnace19:07
+MrHairgreaseok19:07
maxsciencebecause in the meantime I did the migration work from the old static site into WebGUI19:07
+MrHairgreasethen use mod_proxy to proxy the subdomin19:07
+MrHairgreaseok19:07
+MrHairgreaseeasy enough19:07
+MrHairgreasei guess =)19:07
maxsciencelet's hope/see :)19:08
+MrHairgreaseyeah19:08
+MrHairgreaselety me know how it works out19:08
maxsciencedunno if I can specify the same access_log as WebGUI... 19:09
maxsciencecan it conflict?19:09
+MrHairgreaseno19:09
maxsciencek19:09
+MrHairgreaseby default the wre runs mod_proxy19:09
+MrHairgreaseon port 8019:09
+MrHairgreaseand the webgui server on 8119:10
+MrHairgreasei meant19:10
+MrHairgreaseno I don't thinks so19:10
+MrHairgreasenot sure19:10
maxscienceyeah I know. I'm now running the WRE mod_proxy under 82 cause the old server is still serving under 8019:10
+MrHairgreaseok19:10
+MrHairgreaseyou can whatever port19:10
maxscienceyep19:10
+MrHairgreasethe acceslog of the mod_proxy prolly logs all connections19:10
+MrHairgreaseincluding those to your webapp19:11
+MrHairgreaseand the access log of your old server19:11
+MrHairgreaselogs only calls from mod_proxy19:11
+MrHairgreasei guess19:11
maxsciencenot really cause it's a parameter you specify in the Virtual Host section19:12
+MrHairgreaseyeah sure19:12
+MrHairgreasebut mod_proxy logs the actual requests19:13
maxsciencethe prob could be with the RewriteEngine.. Dunno if I will need to use it or not19:13
+MrHairgreasemod_proxy just proxies the request to the app19:13
+MrHairgreaseso the access log of the app only sees  mod_proxy19:13
+MrHairgreasehmm19:13
+MrHairgreaseusing the rewrite enginge on webgui 7 sites is tricky19:13
+MrHairgrease6.8+ actually19:14
+MrHairgreaseyou cannot use it anymore on pages that are inside webgui19:14
+MrHairgreaseonly on locations that are in the passthruUrls config option19:14
+MrHairgreasehas to do with WebGUI being a mp handler19:14
+MrHairgreasebut mod_rewrite should work as it used to on non-webgui sites,19:15
+MrHairgreaseafk19:15
pjesiOk this is kinda weird, I can't edit/create articles and I can't upload files19:16
+MrHairgreasethat is weird =)19:18
pjesiman19:19
pjesiI need logs19:20
+MrHairgreasewhich version are you on?19:21
pjesi7.0.619:21
xdangeryou propably have log /var/log/webgui.log19:21
+MrHairgreasedoes testEnvironment work?19:23
pjesinot Color::Calc19:23
pjesicant get it in19:23
pjesiCouldn't create storage location: /data/domains/arctic/public/uploads/QO/94/QO94c20Qre-cNPWa1utIfA : No such file or directory19:24
+MrHairgreaseyou need color::calc19:25
+MrHairgreasebut that's prolly not your problem19:25
pjesiit is permissions19:25
+MrHairgreaseare the provs to the www/uploads directory ok>19:25
+MrHairgreaseyes it is19:25
pjesiworks19:27
pjesistupid me19:27
+MrHairgreasecool19:27
+MrHairgreaseanyway19:27
pjesiforgot that I changed the apache user19:27
+MrHairgreasegotta go cooking19:27
+MrHairgreaseoh19:27
pjesihf19:27
+MrHairgreasesure19:27
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maxscienceumpf it doesn't work :(19:38
ckotilanyone use syndicated feeds¿ rss/xml21:34
ckotili was just playing around with some. from syndic8 and google and washington post21:34
ckotilthey all seem to display once. then nothin shows21:34
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* Radix-wrk looks forward to the WUC next week.06:19
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Radix_evenin'13:08
maxscienceyo13:19
Radix_yo's are fun13:21
maxscienceeheh yeah13:22
pjesi:o13:39
pjesihow can I change the html in search and login? the template for search at least contains no html13:40
Radix_Yeah.. sucks hey.. I was playing with that today13:42
Radix_if you want, you can view page source, copy the entire <form> bit of code, then make your own template that has that embedded with it's own style13:43
Radix_You can add your own class statements and set the form to look how you want then.13:43
pjesiI was wondering if that was the case :)13:44
Radix_of course it's hardcoded that way.. which sucks.. but handy if you just need one search box anyway13:44
Radix_Login you can customise pretty easily13:44
Radix_same way though really.. copy the <form> and place it in your page style somewhere and use css classes or the like to customise it13:45
Radix_I do that on my site13:45
pjesitell me, how do I customize ^L("","","PBtmpl0000000000000092"); &middot; ^AdminToggle; ?13:46
Radix_Oh.. that's easy.. it's a default template13:47
Radix_just make your own13:47
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maxsciencethat way you don't need to hack conf and passthrus?13:58
Radix_yup.. no mods necessary then13:59
Radix_it'll just work automagically :)13:59
maxsciencemmh I'll try thx13:59
pjesianyone got nice menu template such as mountaintop?14:08
Radix_mountaintop?14:10
pjesiI dont know what such menus are called in general14:11
maxscienceNavigation templates14:13
Radix_but what did you mean by mountaintop?14:15
Radix_Oh.. mountaintop corners - http://de.siteof.de/extended-menu-templates.html14:24
pjesiI dont need corners, I just need to be able to style items according to level, if active, parent and such14:24
pjesiwith li li and so on14:25
Radix_we mucked around with all sorts of different menus.. and in the end we just used css to style the normal verticalMenu one14:25
Radix_Simple, yet effective14:25
pjesiit is the best14:26
pjesiif you identify each li with class14:26
Radix_we used dtree for a while.. but with several hundred pages it just blows every page out so much14:26
pjesihehe14:26
pjesiSo you used bulleted list?14:29
pjesibahh14:49
pjesiI not getting how to organize templates, css and images14:50
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maxsciencehey xdanger16:02
maxsciencegot a prob with  your macro :(16:03
xdangerdo tell16:05
maxscienceI got a page layout under another page layout: Section 1 -> SubSection 116:06
maxscienceThe fact is that the URL of SubSection 1 is /SubSection1 and NOT /Section 1/SubSection 116:07
maxsciencethe problem is that your macro still displays the value for Section 1. Even though I specified in the tmpl a variable tmpl_if nextToRoot.SubSection 1>16:08
xdangerits a url, so nextToRoot.SubSection1 should work16:09
maxscienceyep but it doesn't :(16:10
xdangerspaces are not valid in template variables and urls16:10
xdangerO, it works only with Section116:11
maxscienceI know. I don't have any spaces.. That was an example ;)16:11
xdangerYou can't (in that version) to differ with other level of the tree16:11
maxscience:(16:12
xdangerI could write that =D16:12
xdangerbuuuut...16:12
maxsciencebut? :D16:13
xdangerdon't have time right now, maybe in the evening or tomorrow16:13
maxscienceok many thanks!! :D16:13
maxscienceRadix I don't think that the cgi-bin solution doesn't require conf hacks...16:16
maxscienceIf you type cgi-bin it's still WebGUI that handles the request... Of course without any passthru...16:17
xdangerso you need a different image for subsections?16:17
xdangerI'm just pondering how to do that on the template, cous it shouldn't interfere with the Section level..16:18
maxscienceyes.. Even though this subsection has its own "root-like" url /16:18
maxscienceI even tried to do Section1/SubSection but it doesn't work.. Because it's not a valid url, it's just the tree path... But if you enter the right url it doesn't work as expected. It sill displays the img of its ancestor16:19
pjesithis is fucked up, I loged out and now it is impossible to edit the assets that I was working on16:30
maxsciencelol16:32
maxscienceyou have to click into your last version tag16:32
pjesi:P16:32
pjesiit is still locked16:35
maxsciencecan't be if you clicked the right one16:35
pjesiI see16:35
xdangerMrHairgrease: btw, it's fileImport.pl, not fileUpload.pl that you changed ;)17:07
+MrHairgreasewell17:13
+MrHairgreaseyou are completely right17:13
+MrHairgreasebut the importamt thing is17:13
+MrHairgreaseit works17:13
+MrHairgrease=)17:13
maxsciencehey do you know how to 17:27
maxsciencemodify the body form width?17:28
maxscienceit's seems hardcoded...17:28
maxsciencesolved :D17:38
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pjesiis it possible to change the default layour template?18:11
pjesilayout18:11
maxscienceof course18:30
maxsciencelook under Import Node -> Layout18:30
pjesino I mean change what is the default layout (mine)18:38
maxscienceyou mean page layout?18:38
pjesiyes18:39
pjesiI made a new one18:39
maxscienceA template or asset?18:39
pjesiis template not an asset?18:40
xdangeredit the page asset18:40
xdangerunder display tab18:40
maxscienceDon't know what you mean.. Display -> Page Layout Template?18:40
xdangertheres a select for what template to use18:40
pjesiyes18:40
pjesiWhen in Asset, New Content -> Page Layout18:43
pjesithen I want the Page Layout Template to default to my template18:43
maxscienceThen click the edit button18:43
maxsciencethen go to the Display tab18:43
maxscienceand select your template under Page Layout Template18:44
pjesifor every single new Page Layout that I create?18:44
pjesithere must be some settings what is the default one18:45
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maxsciencehey xdanger are ya there?21:04
xdangeryup21:24
maxsciencedo you know the RandomThread macro?21:26
maxscienceI need a LastThread macro... Do you know if it already exists?21:26
+MrHairgreasedon't think so21:26
+MrHairgreasemaxscience21:26
maxscience:(21:26
+MrHairgreaseyou are from italy right?21:26
maxscienceyep21:26
+MrHairgreaseok21:26
maxsciencewhy you ask? :)21:26
+MrHairgreasecan you help me out with a translation21:27
+MrHairgreaseis this correct italian?21:27
maxsciencesure21:27
+MrHairgreasei cavalli possono pscere sicuro ancora21:27
+MrHairgreasepascere*21:27
maxsciencenot really21:27
+MrHairgreasecrap21:27
+MrHairgreasethat's not itailan either =)21:28
+MrHairgreaseso i wanna say this21:28
maxscienceyou're translating from english?21:28
+MrHairgreaseThe horses can graze safely again21:28
+MrHairgreasewell21:28
+MrHairgreasei let babelfish do the work21:28
+MrHairgrease=)21:28
+MrHairgreasemy italian not what you'd call good21:28
+MrHairgreaseor even close to that =)21:28
maxscienceeheh yeah it sounded a babelfish-like translation21:29
+MrHairgreaseyeah probably21:29
+MrHairgreasebut do you know what it should be?21:30
maxscienceYes thinking of the right sentence. Because there are several alternatives depending on the target you have21:30
+MrHairgreasehuh21:31
+MrHairgreaseno targets21:31
+MrHairgreasejust an obersvation21:31
+MrHairgreaseor am I misunderstanding?21:31
maxscienceI mean it's for everyday people. A one million dollar ad or what? :D21:31
+MrHairgreaseno, it's just for fun21:31
+MrHairgreasei am a member of this student-like club21:32
maxsciencek then I cavalli possono di nuovo mangiare indisturbati21:32
+MrHairgreaseand the current board calls itself the mafia board21:32
+MrHairgreasethat _is_ diffrent21:32
maxscienceppf the mafia-italy link is so cheap21:32
+MrHairgreasecoolio21:32
+MrHairgreasesure it is21:32
+MrHairgreaseit's ceesy21:33
maxsciencelol21:33
+MrHairgreasecheesy21:33
maxscienceyeah21:33
+MrHairgreasewhich makes it fun21:33
+MrHairgreasethanks a bunch21:33
maxsciencenp mr. Travolta! :D21:33
+MrHairgreaseon a sidenote what does pascere mean21:33
maxscienceit means "to eat"21:34
maxsciencebut in a high registry21:34
maxscienceacademic word you know21:35
maxsciencenormally used by poets and such21:35
+MrHairgreaseheh21:35
maxscienceitalian is not as plain as english eheh21:35
+MrHairgreasenever thought babelfish would be poetic21:35
+MrHairgreasei know21:35
+MrHairgreasehave been there on hollidays this year21:36
maxsciencebabelfish just sucks :D poor random21:36
maxsciencewhere?21:36
+MrHairgreasei needed some anti-muscito ich cream21:36
+MrHairgreaseso i fugured out21:36
maxsciencelol21:36
+MrHairgreaseuna crema contra purito di zanzare!21:37
+MrHairgreasei was very proud21:37
maxsciencewrong :D21:37
+MrHairgreaseunfortnately i couldn't understand the answer21:37
maxscienceuna crema contro il prurito delle zanzare21:37
+MrHairgreasedoesn't matter21:37
maxscienceeheh21:37
+MrHairgreaseiwas still proud21:37
+MrHairgreasewho cares if a word is male or female =)21:38
+MrHairgreaseanyway21:38
maxscience:D21:38
+MrHairgreaseI went to milano for one day21:38
+MrHairgreasevisiting a frioend of my girlfriend21:38
+MrHairgreaseand then to lago di como21:38
+MrHairgreaseand lago di lugano21:38
maxscienceoh to give him a punch? lol21:38
+MrHairgreasebut first we went a week to switzerland21:38
+MrHairgreaseno21:38
+MrHairgreasea former housemate21:38
+MrHairgreaseshe's a student too21:39
+MrHairgreasehe used to be21:39
+MrHairgreasebut he fell in love with an italian girl21:39
maxscienceaha21:39
maxscienceyou're from procolix?21:39
+MrHairgreaseyes21:39
maxsciencenice asked for a quote from you guys but never got the answer :D21:39
maxscienceeheh21:40
+MrHairgreaseok21:40
maxsciencedo you know if there's a european version of the Weather asset?21:40
+MrHairgreaseI don't do aquistion21:40
+MrHairgreaseso I don't know what happend to it21:40
+MrHairgreasewhat adress did you send your email to?21:40
+MrHairgreaseno that i know of..21:41
+MrHairgreaseThe horses can of new eating indisturbati21:41
maxsciencebrb21:41
+MrHairgreasebabelfish is the master =)21:41
+MrHairgreasegotta go21:41
xdangerI was lookin in to where to get internationalized weather data, and found one..21:41
+MrHairgreaseI'm gonna impress people with my  cool italian!21:41
xdangermaybe should write a fork of the weather asset21:41
+MrHairgreasesure21:41
+MrHairgreasedo that21:42
+MrHairgreaseI would've never guessed the weather asset would be so popular =)21:42
+MrHairgreaselater guys21:42
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ckotilim about to fork an asset. are there isntructions anywhere?21:50
ckotilhad to create a new DataForm.pm21:50
ckotiland forking would mean not having to edit w/ every upgrade21:50
maxsciencerespectfully, but you're wrong lol21:55
maxsciencehey xdanger!22:06
maxscienceA weather asset with european support would be awesome22:07
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maxsciencehi22:07
midellaqhi!22:08
maxscienceanyone successfully running a perl script with the WRE?22:11
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maxscienceany news on the internationalized weather asset? :)15:26
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ckotilim missing the web services client. in my add new content list17:17
ckotilwierd. it was only for my user17:19
ckotili switched to a new user and it appeard17:20
+MrHairgreaseassets have privs17:22
+MrHairgreaseso maybe one user was allowed to add that asset17:22
+MrHairgreaseand the second isn't17:23
+MrHairgreaseit's the assetAddPrivilege parameter in the config file17:25
ckotilok17:38
ckotilwierd tho, bc i dont recall ever messing with that17:38
+MrHairgreaseyeah17:48
+MrHairgreasewell17:48
+MrHairgreaseit's the only thing i can think of17:48
+MrHairgreaseit's commented out by default afaik17:49
ckotilill check17:49
ckotilnah. nothin17:52
ckotilo well, i switched users and it worked17:52
+MrHairgreaseweird17:54
+MrHairgreaseif you can reproduce this behaviour17:54
+MrHairgreaseplease put up a bug report17:54
+MrHairgreaseoh wait17:57
+MrHairgreasei know what it is17:57
+MrHairgreasethe user that doesn't see the asset17:57
+MrHairgreaseprolly has a uilevel that is too low17:58
+MrHairgreasethe wsclient requires uiLevel 9 (Guru)17:58
ckotilill check that now.17:58
ckotil;]17:59
ckotilthanks17:59
+MrHairgreasenp18:00
+MrHairgreaseckotil18:22
+MrHairgreasewas that the problem?18:22
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ckotiluiLevel18:40
+MrHairgreaseyeah18:40
+MrHairgreasedid changing it work?18:40
ckotilyes18:40
+MrHairgreasecool18:40
+MrHairgreaseare you going to the wuc?18:41
ckotilnah. i wish i were.18:41
+MrHairgreaseok18:41
ckotilboss's laughed out loud when i brought it up18:41
ckotilif it were not for another month or so i could pry swing it18:41
ckotilwe're about to launch our new webgui powered website18:42
+MrHairgreasepry swing?18:42
ckotilhttp://globalnoc.grnoc.iu.edu18:42
+MrHairgreasewhat's that18:42
ckotil'probably swing' = probably be able to attend18:42
+MrHairgreaseoh ok18:42
+MrHairgreaseso you would've had a chance if the site was finsihed already?18:43
maxsciencelol it seems a bit like a Mission Impossible thing18:43
ckotili think so bc I would have been moved on to integrating apps into the system. creating wobjects. and it would have been a good training mission18:44
+MrHairgreaseyeah, it would18:44
ckotilmaxscience: mission ;-)18:44
* ckotil sighs18:44
ckotilmaybe next year18:44
maxscienceMission, that's what I've sad :D18:44
ckotili know. thats why i said it18:45
ckotilbc you said it18:45
+MrHairgreasenow I'm confused =)18:45
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+crythia1interesting in the upgrade05:08
+crythia1you have the option of using asset vs real urls for images05:08
+crythia1among other things.05:08
+crythia1http://www.plainblack.com/news/news/webgui-7.0.7-stable-released05:08
+crythia1http://www.gwy2.org/fomfiles/cache/52.html05:10
hawkaloogieooh i like, imho some things shouldn't be controlled by my scripts05:43
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Radix-wrkyeah.. we funded that feature06:42
Radix-wrkbecause with that you can link an image in using the editor, and it uses the asset url to insert it06:43
Radix-wrkbig advantage is if you want to change the image at any time, you upload a new image and voila, all of your pages are then updated too06:43
Radix-wrkwithout it, the editor uses the /uploads/xxx/x/xx/x/x.jpg links, and it won't get updated ever unless you manually do it for every page that uses that image06:44
xdangerI think that was a bug, but thats just me06:44
Radix-wrkme too06:45
xdangerhave you tried the streamthroug feature?06:45
Radix-wrkif you update an image in webgui.. it creates a whole new /uploads/x/x/x/x/ hierarchy for it, and the old image becomes an orphan06:45
Radix-wrkyeah06:46
xdangerI wrote that =P06:46
Radix-wrkbut it didn't go far enough as the rich text editor still used the /uploads/x/x/x url's06:46
Radix-wrkcool06:46
Radix-wrkwell done then :)06:46
xdangerhad my own reasons to do it =)06:46
xdangerIt actually outperforms the redirect...06:48
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xdangerbut with redirect you can serve the file straight from the frontside proxy, so thats of course faster.. but that's only usin the /upload/xx/xxx/... urls06:49
xdangerbut now to sleep =) it's getting 7am here...06:51
Radix-wrkheh.. nite then06:56
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pjesidoes ./build.sh install everything into /data or will perl/mysql and such go under /usr?16:11
+MrHairgreaseeverything goes under /data/wre/prereqs16:12
pjesiok thanks16:12
pjesiI guess wre-0.7.1-source.tar.gz is WebGUI 7.0.7?16:16
+MrHairgreaseI'm not sure16:17
+MrHairgreasemaybe it just downloads the latest version16:17
pjesiok16:17
+MrHairgreaseanyway16:17
+MrHairgreaseit is possible to upgrade webgui from within the wre16:17
+MrHairgreasei think16:17
+MrHairgreaseI just compiled it16:17
+MrHairgreasedidn't have yet to check it out16:18
pjesiI cant say that I am confortable to ditch the package system in the os and use WRE apache/mysql/perl16:18
pjesibut lets see16:19
+MrHairgreasewhy not?16:19
+MrHairgreasefor updates?16:19
pjesifor example yes16:19
pjesiand for non-webgui applications16:20
pjesibut it does not include ldap16:21
+MrHairgreasewhy should it include LDAP?16:21
+MrHairgreaseor do you mean the LDAP perl modules16:21
pjesidoes it include the perl modules?16:21
+MrHairgreaseyes16:22
pjesiI'm not familiar with LDAP16:22
+MrHairgreaseit'll fetch them from cpan16:22
+MrHairgreasewithin its own perl16:22
+MrHairgreaseso the system-wide perl is not touched at all16:22
+MrHairgreasewhich is good of course16:22
pjesiyes it is16:22
pjesiI have other applications that need the same user database, so I guess LDAP is the tool for me16:23
+MrHairgreasei guess so16:23
+MrHairgreaseI'm not familiar with ldap though16:23
pjesiyou just use webgui auth?16:24
+MrHairgreaseyes16:24
+MrHairgreaseit's good enough for our customers16:25
+MrHairgreaseI once connected webgui to an activedirectory server16:25
+MrHairgreasebut that's a looong time ago16:25
+MrHairgreasecan't remember how i did it =)16:25
pjesiI have no idea if I should configure some schema for LDAP before I connect16:25
+MrHairgreaseme neither16:26
pjesido you have subscription to the support material16:30
+MrHairgreaseno16:31
+MrHairgreaseI don't need it =)16:31
* MrHairgrease pats himself on the back =)16:31
pjesihehe16:32
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+MrHairgreaselater guys17:53
+MrHairgreasethe sun is shining17:54
+MrHairgreaseand a pint of Guinness is waiting =)17:54
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maxsciencehi all17:58
maxscienceanyone usin WRE?17:58
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pjesiWriting Makefile for Net::LDAP18:24
pjesimake: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.18:24
pjesiWRE ERROR: Net::LDAP make did not complete successfully.18:24
+crythiaswhat OS?18:24
pjesigentoo18:24
+crythiasget the package18:26
pjesinormally?18:26
+crythiasand why not?18:26
pjesidont know, will I have to run build.sh all over?18:26
+crythiasoh. wre.18:27
+crythiasthere's probably something a bit higher up in the log that is indicative of the problem.18:27
pjesiSearching krb5-config command... not found! at Makefile.PL line 94.18:27
pjesiperhaps18:27
+crythiasaptitude install krb5-config18:29
+crythiasor whatever the gentoo package install method would be18:30
+crythiasmaybe mit-krb5? http://packages.gentoo.org/search/?sstring=krb518:31
pjesiok18:41
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Jiggiesupp people23:18
Jiggiefinnaly got webgui 7 to work,23:18
Jiggieits not so hard after all. only a few weeks, trying to get it to work23:19
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Jiggiewhats the equivalent of adduser -s /sbin/nologin mysql for a debian system. As this does not seem to work23:41
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pjesihi20:28
pjesione quick question, the event template only shows fraction of the data that is instered when adding a new event, is this normal?20:28
pjesimainly, it does not show location20:46
pjesiI did test <tmpl_var location>20:46
pjesibut no luck20:47
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maxsciencehey17:05
maxscienceanyone willing to help to convert my 10 lines php script to a webgui macro? :)17:06
+crythiashey17:08
+crythiasI have to get ready for Church, but afterward, perhaps.17:09
maxscienceok thx17:09
+crythiasalthough you probably don't *have* to convert it.17:09
maxscienceyeah I know I could use PHPMacro17:09
maxsciencebut a native perl version would be better :D17:09
+crythiasor mod_php...17:09
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maxsciencesomeone's there?18:36
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cap10morganthe WRE basically refuses to start for me, and it's not logging anything to webgui.log22:33
cap10morgani'm not getting any helpful errors anywhere... this in centos 4 using the wre 0.7.1 for RHEL4 systems22:34
cap10morganwhere should i be looking for debugging output?22:34
xdangerwre doesn't log to webgui.log23:11
xdanger/data/wre/prereqs/var23:11
cap10morganthere is no /data/wre/prereqs/var23:20
cap10morganno httpd processes are running...23:21
cap10morganthe user the setup script created is not being allowed to access MySQL, it seems23:39
cap10morganoh, i think it didn't like my chosen root password. it had an ampersand in it that didn't get protected from the shell at one step23:43
cap10morgani'll file a bug23:43
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cap10morganhmm, still not working00:08
cap10morganspectre won't start00:08
cap10morganit seems the RHEL4 WRE is missing POE::Component::Client::HTTP00:41
Radix_yeah, you'll need to cpan that for wre 0.7.101:48
Radix_unfortunately they haven't released wre 0.7.2 yet that fixes that issue01:48
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Radix-wrkhey crythia1 07:10
+crythia1hi07:12
Radix-wrkHow'd your house-move go?07:15
Radix-wrkSorted or still in progress?07:16
+crythia1in progress07:16
Radix-wrkfun stuff07:16
Radix-wrk;)07:16
+crythia1just got back from Houston, though.07:19
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hawkaloogieis a wobject's view() or www_view() called if webgui is pulling a cached version?02:12
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ckotilHas anyone dealt with DNS and webgui before?21:56
ckotilI want to point domain's such as http://abilene.iu.edu to http://globalnoc.grnoc.iu.edu/abilene/index.html21:56
ckotilmake that... http://www.abilene.iu.edu/ i want this to go to   http://globalnoc.grnoc.iu.edu/abilene/index.html but still retain the domain http://www.abilene.iu.edu/21:57
ckotileww i just found a nasty bug22:31
ckotili no longe see users or groups22:32
ckotilwhile i was editing groups22:32
ckotilbummer22:32
ckotilgood thing i just made a backup22:32
ckotilhrm could have been a caching thing :/22:38
ckotileither way i overwrote the db with a backup22:38
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xdangerckotil: mod_rewrite is your friend...23:43
ckotilok.23:44
ckotili dunno anything about it23:44
ckotilbut im guessing thats gonna rewrite all the urls to go to the proper place?23:44
ckotilwell i put in a forum post to the dev's . JT will write me something good.23:45
ckotilgotta go23:45
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+crythia1Be a Rockstar!21:18
+crythia1https://www.plainblack.com/services/support/rockstar-support21:18
+crythia1I'm just saying... um. irk.21:19
ckotilDAAMNNN 60 g's21:36
ckotilbrb gotta reboot21:36
+crythia1oh.. cay.21:36
ckotilmy imac is screwing with me....21:37
ckotilit hasnt been restarted in ages21:37
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ckotil# Proxy to the abliene wg root 22:19
ckotilRewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} www.abliene.iu.edu22:19
ckotilRewriteRule ^/$ http://globalnoc.grnoc.iu.edu/abilene [P] 22:19
ckotilany idea what the [P] is?22:20
xdangerproxy22:25
ckotilah22:30
ckotildoes it have to be there?22:30
xdangerif you don't want to do a redirect22:45
ckotilk well i want http://abtest.grnoc.iu.edu to go to http://globalnoc.grnoc.iu.edu/abilene/index.html22:52
ckotilim messing with httpd.conf now22:52
ckotili entered it what JT had me enter, and its not working :/22:52
ckotilim hopefully gonna pass this on to the sysadmin and he can figure it out22:52
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Radix-wrkmornin'03:35
+crythiashowdy04:33
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camidinhello. somebody can answer me a questions of webgui?22:43
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isaacfinneganhello02:04
isaacfinneganI've got a quick question for anyone that cares to hear it02:04
isaacfinneganwhen I do $session->http->setRedirect('someurl')02:04
isaacfinneganinside a macro02:05
isaacfinneganwebgui still sends all the page content.02:05
isaacfinneganso the browser flashes the pages content, then redirects02:05
isaacfinneganfor mozilla browsers anywyas02:05
isaacfinneganwhich is interesting.02:05
isaacfinneganis there a way to tell webgui, then I'm going to redirect and stop trying to render the page?02:05
isaacfinneganoh well02:11
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