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@snapcount | yeah | 00:09 |
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@snapcount | I saw that | 00:09 |
@snapcount | I'm not sure how to duplicate that | 00:09 |
+perlDreamer | Actually, MD5.pm will output %2F, "/", but session->id is supposed to replace it with a different character. | 00:10 |
@snapcount | oh poop | 00:13 |
@snapcount | gotta go... I have a date | 00:13 |
@snapcount | (go snapcount, it's ya birthday) | 00:13 |
@snapcount | woot | 00:13 |
@snapcount | =) | 00:13 |
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+crythias | bout to ask the same thing | 21:57 |
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snapcoun1 | hey | 21:58 |
snapcoun1 | that would be cool | 21:58 |
snapcoun1 | even cooler if it were v7.7 | 21:58 |
+crythias | wait a year...? :) :) | 21:58 |
snapcoun1 | hehe | 21:58 |
snapcoun1 | http://homestarrunner.com/asdfkj | 22:00 |
snapcoun1 | == 404 | 22:00 |
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lenthamen | looks like everyone is having a party ;) | 00:36 |
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lenthamen | hey Colin ! | 01:17 |
+perlDreamer | hey, len! | 01:17 |
+perlDreamer | 7 is out! | 01:17 |
+perlDreamer | woot! | 01:17 |
lenthamen | Long time no see :) | 01:17 |
+perlDreamer | i'm in and out | 01:17 |
lenthamen | Yeah I saw 7 is out. Unbelievable :) | 01:17 |
lenthamen | No more upgrade nightmares | 01:18 |
lenthamen | or API changes | 01:18 |
lenthamen | or confused customers ;) | 01:18 |
+perlDreamer | oh no | 01:18 |
+perlDreamer | we'll have those for a while | 01:18 |
+perlDreamer | as they upgrade | 01:18 |
+perlDreamer | and we forward port all contracted work | 01:18 |
+perlDreamer | Is your site holding up well to the World Cup fans? | 01:19 |
lenthamen | The rush is over... Holland lost last week. | 01:19 |
+perlDreamer | sorry about that. They probably did better than the US, though | 01:19 |
lenthamen | We received about 900K unique visitors, thats more than we ever got before. | 01:20 |
lenthamen | 26,7 million page views. | 01:22 |
+perlDreamer | that's huge | 01:22 |
+perlDreamer | I still remember the presentation you gave at last year's WUC | 01:22 |
+perlDreamer | that's some system. | 01:22 |
lenthamen | It's cool to get the opportunity to use webgui for such a site... We're planning to upgrade to 7.0 btw, but that'll be a tough one. | 01:23 |
lenthamen | lots of custom code. | 01:23 |
+perlDreamer | the regexps in the migration doc will help with coarse conversion of the code for the 6.8 to 6.9 stuff. | 01:24 |
+perlDreamer | what is the site running now? | 01:24 |
lenthamen | http://www.knvb.nl/ -> 6.2.11 | 01:24 |
+perlDreamer | So you'll have to do Asset work as well. | 01:24 |
+perlDreamer | yeah, that won't be easy | 01:25 |
lenthamen | we have lots of special stuff, like the right column which is inherited from a parent page if it is empty.... | 01:25 |
lenthamen | automatic image scaling... | 01:26 |
+perlDreamer | nice | 01:26 |
lenthamen | Check out the Ajax poll: http://www.knvb.nl/wk2006/nieuws | 01:27 |
lenthamen | on the right. | 01:27 |
+perlDreamer | that's nice. You ever think of releasing any of that code? | 01:28 |
+perlDreamer | oh, and the new AdSpace manager should help with your right column ad space. | 01:29 |
lenthamen | The poll results are outside webgui. That's the only way to keep it fast. Same for the login box on the left. | 01:31 |
+perlDreamer | so they're proxied into the site? | 01:31 |
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+MrHairgrease | Len! | 01:31 |
lenthamen | poll results are fetched via ajax. The login box is an iframe. | 01:32 |
lenthamen | Good night martin ! | 01:32 |
+MrHairgrease | What's good about it? | 01:32 |
+perlDreamer | WebGUI 7 is finally out? | 01:32 |
+MrHairgrease | That's true | 01:32 |
lenthamen | Portugal lost :D | 01:32 |
+MrHairgrease | ok | 01:32 |
+MrHairgrease | coolio | 01:32 |
+MrHairgrease | i think | 01:32 |
+MrHairgrease | =) | 01:32 |
+perlDreamer | So it's France vs Italy? | 01:33 |
+MrHairgrease | Yeah | 01:33 |
lenthamen | yep ! | 01:33 |
+MrHairgrease | I guess | 01:33 |
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+MrHairgrease | Let France win | 01:33 |
lenthamen | what are you doing so late martin ;) | 01:33 |
+MrHairgrease | studying | 01:33 |
lenthamen | ok | 01:33 |
+MrHairgrease | My last exam of the year | 01:33 |
+MrHairgrease | tomorrow | 01:33 |
+MrHairgrease | and it's about 30 something dgrees in my room | 01:34 |
+perlDreamer | Is this your last year of school? | 01:34 |
+MrHairgrease | no man | 01:34 |
+MrHairgrease | but I'm planning on starting my graduation thesis in november | 01:34 |
+MrHairgrease | so I could be finished in oktober/novermber 2007! | 01:34 |
+MrHairgrease | If everything goes according to plan | 01:35 |
* MrHairgrease loves it when plans come together | 01:35 | |
+MrHairgrease | Len | 01:35 |
lenthamen | Martin are you going to Las Vegas? | 01:35 |
+MrHairgrease | What are you doing up so late? | 01:35 |
+MrHairgrease | yes | 01:35 |
+MrHairgrease | together with joeri | 01:35 |
lenthamen | I can't be there :( | 01:35 |
+MrHairgrease | I know | 01:35 |
lenthamen | koen's not going ? | 01:36 |
+MrHairgrease | blame it on sinterklaas if I remeber correctlky? =) | 01:36 |
+MrHairgrease | Koen's was going | 01:36 |
+MrHairgrease | but decided not to | 01:36 |
+MrHairgrease | same for albert | 01:36 |
+perlDreamer | that's too bad | 01:36 |
+MrHairgrease | well | 01:36 |
+perlDreamer | my coffee consumption is up 25% since his talk last year | 01:36 |
+MrHairgrease | see it from the bright side | 01:36 |
+perlDreamer | I'm hoping for beer advice this year | 01:36 |
+MrHairgrease | it will spare you from a lot of headaches =) | 01:36 |
+MrHairgrease | hey man | 01:36 |
+MrHairgrease | I'm still going | 01:37 |
+MrHairgrease | I drink beer | 01:37 |
+perlDreamer | You're the man, then | 01:37 |
+MrHairgrease | well, at least _a_ man | 01:37 |
lenthamen | I'd love to go. Can't the WUC be postponed for 2 months or so ;) | 01:38 |
+MrHairgrease | no | 01:38 |
+MrHairgrease | we alreaqdy ordered our tiockects | 01:38 |
lenthamen | snik | 01:38 |
+MrHairgrease | it's your own fault | 01:39 |
+MrHairgrease | =) | 01:39 |
lenthamen | me time will come | 01:39 |
+perlDreamer | 2007, the Year of Len | 01:39 |
+MrHairgrease | sure | 01:39 |
lenthamen | hehe | 01:39 |
+MrHairgrease | you guys believe that | 01:39 |
lenthamen | I thought that of 2006 too | 01:39 |
lenthamen | :) | 01:39 |
+MrHairgrease | no man | 01:39 |
+MrHairgrease | I thought 2006 was mine | 01:40 |
+MrHairgrease | but I'm not entierky sure | 01:40 |
+MrHairgrease | I don't have a calendar | 01:40 |
+MrHairgrease | agenda | 01:40 |
+MrHairgrease | whatever it's called in english | 01:40 |
lenthamen | I'm going to sleep. Ttyl guys ! | 01:41 |
+perlDreamer | g'night, Len | 01:41 |
+MrHairgrease | ok | 01:41 |
+MrHairgrease | see you later | 01:41 |
lenthamen | mzl | 01:41 |
+perlDreamer | So what will you thesis be on, Martin? | 01:45 |
+MrHairgrease | dunno | 01:45 |
+MrHairgrease | yet | 01:45 |
+MrHairgrease | prolly something with transistors | 01:45 |
+MrHairgrease | or mems devices | 01:45 |
+perlDreamer | board or integrated? | 01:45 |
+MrHairgrease | integrated | 01:45 |
+MrHairgrease | like designing transitors | 01:46 |
+MrHairgrease | or characterizeing it | 01:46 |
+MrHairgrease | oh | 01:46 |
+perlDreamer | cool, I didn't know you were into fab-type stuff | 01:46 |
+MrHairgrease | or maybe something with tunnel devices | 01:46 |
+MrHairgrease | it keeps me off the street | 01:46 |
+MrHairgrease | =) | 01:46 |
+perlDreamer | I prefer designing with transistors to designing transistors | 01:47 |
+MrHairgrease | i can understand | 01:47 |
+MrHairgrease | you design opamps and that kind of stuff right? | 01:47 |
+perlDreamer | kind of | 01:47 |
+perlDreamer | we do chips for batteries | 01:48 |
+MrHairgrease | monitoring? | 01:48 |
+perlDreamer | charge monitors, safety circuits, authentication, chargers | 01:48 |
+MrHairgrease | auth through batteries? | 01:48 |
+perlDreamer | auth for batteries | 01:48 |
+perlDreamer | to prevent counterfeits | 01:48 |
+MrHairgrease | that would make a cool webgui plugin | 01:48 |
+MrHairgrease | oh i see | 01:48 |
+perlDreamer | this is one my last chips: http://www.maxim-ic.com/quick_view2.cfm/qv_pk/3019 | 01:49 |
+MrHairgrease | I'm planning on taking some additional analog design courses though | 01:49 |
+MrHairgrease | cool | 01:50 |
+MrHairgrease | so you output the auth signal troug the positive lead or so? | 01:50 |
+MrHairgrease | or do you have a seperate lead for that? | 01:50 |
+perlDreamer | On the DS2703, you put it through the positive lead. On the DS2704, it has a separate lead. | 01:50 |
+MrHairgrease | ok | 01:51 |
+MrHairgrease | but you designed the analog part of it? | 01:51 |
+MrHairgrease | or the digital core? | 01:51 |
+perlDreamer | I spec'ed the digital core, integrated memories from an existing part and built all the left-over analog and digital glue to make them all talk to one another. | 01:51 |
+perlDreamer | it was a two person chip | 01:52 |
+MrHairgrease | have you been doing this for a long time already? | 01:52 |
+perlDreamer | 10 years | 01:52 |
+MrHairgrease | hmmm | 01:52 |
+MrHairgrease | that's almost a long as I'm going to the university =) | 01:52 |
+MrHairgrease | l/k | 01:52 |
+MrHairgrease | j/k* | 01:53 |
+perlDreamer | University can be much more fun | 01:53 |
+MrHairgrease | I dunno | 01:53 |
+perlDreamer | especially when it comes time for WebGUI hacking | 01:53 |
+MrHairgrease | I'm never there =) | 01:53 |
* MrHairgrease pull all cliches out of his sleeve | 01:53 | |
+MrHairgrease | I hack webgui at procolix | 01:53 |
+MrHairgrease | and sometimes at home | 01:53 |
+MrHairgrease | however seldom at the university | 01:54 |
+MrHairgrease | If I got the timezones correctly your chatting about webgui during work | 01:54 |
+perlDreamer | yes | 01:54 |
+MrHairgrease | so it must be ok | 01:55 |
+perlDreamer | webgui chatting during work is okay | 01:55 |
+perlDreamer | webgui hackery at work is kept to an absolute minimum | 01:55 |
+MrHairgrease | hehe | 01:55 |
+perlDreamer | and webgui work is a strict no-no | 01:55 |
+MrHairgrease | and your boss knows this? | 01:55 |
+perlDreamer | yes | 01:55 |
+MrHairgrease | do you guys use webgui in your intranet or so? | 01:55 |
+perlDreamer | no | 01:55 |
+perlDreamer | we have a very small intranet site | 01:56 |
+perlDreamer | not really WebGUI-able | 01:56 |
+perlDreamer | it would need integration with our version control IC tools | 01:56 |
+MrHairgrease | ah | 01:56 |
+MrHairgrease | anyway | 01:57 |
+MrHairgrease | gotta | 01:57 |
+MrHairgrease | go | 01:57 |
+perlDreamer | g'night | 01:57 |
+MrHairgrease | exam tomorrow | 01:57 |
+MrHairgrease | later | 01:57 |
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@rizen | perlDreamer: the patch you made here https://svn.webgui.org/svnweb/WebGUI%20SVN/revision?rev=2564 looks fine to me | 03:18 |
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Christian-Marc | #join webgui.nl | 20:34 |
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ckotil | I think i found a bug. | 21:59 |
ckotil | that kills the forum. | 21:59 |
ckotil | Twice today I submited a bug | 22:00 |
ckotil | and after i submitted i cant access the bug section | 22:00 |
ckotil | subjeect was <iframe> height attribute | 22:00 |
ckotil | webgui seems to ignore height="100%" or style="height:100%;" | 22:00 |
ckotil | seems to me < and > kill it :/ | 22:01 |
ckotil | but the iframe thing is annoying. | 22:03 |
ckotil | heh http://www.plainblack.com/bugs | 22:07 |
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Radix-wrk | Anyone here? | 09:23 |
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lenthamen | hey martin | 11:54 |
+MrHairgrease | yo | 11:55 |
+MrHairgrease | ik ben er naar aan het kijken | 11:55 |
lenthamen | ok, tnx. | 11:55 |
lenthamen | laat maar weten als ik je kan helpen. | 11:55 |
+MrHairgrease | ok | 11:56 |
+MrHairgrease | ik weet zelf ook nog niets van spectre en workflow | 11:56 |
+MrHairgrease | dus het is allemaal reuze spannend =) | 11:56 |
lenthamen | de site (imt) is helemaal niet spannend, dus eigenlijk raar dat het nu opeens problemen geeft. | 11:58 |
+MrHairgrease | er gaat iets mis in het collab system | 11:59 |
+MrHairgrease | de archiveOldPosts workflow breekt | 11:59 |
+MrHairgrease | \ik ga proberen die even uit te zetten in de config | 11:59 |
lenthamen | ok | 12:00 |
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WebGUI | mogge | 12:05 |
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+MrHairgrease | len | 12:05 |
+MrHairgrease | hij gaat ook hier stuk | 12:05 |
+MrHairgrease | return $avatarUrl unless | 12:05 |
* SynQ Koen | 12:05 | |
+MrHairgrease | $self->getThread->getParent->getValue("avatarsEnabled"); | 12:05 |
+MrHairgrease | hij zegt dat $self->getThread->getParent undef is | 12:06 |
+MrHairgrease | dus ik denk dat je assettree geborked is ofzo | 12:06 |
SynQ | hoe heet len? | 12:06 |
SynQ | op irk? | 12:06 |
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SynQ | hi joeri | 12:12 |
dapperedodo | hi | 12:12 |
SynQ | I guess the feedinglanguage is greesh here | 12:13 |
SynQ | :) | 12:13 |
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lenthamen | Martin: Ik heb je gemaild. | 12:20 |
+MrHairgrease | ok | 12:20 |
+MrHairgrease | ok i logged on | 12:21 |
SynQ | brb | 13:53 |
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+MrHairgrease | len check your email | 14:07 |
lenthamen | Yes I saw it... | 14:08 |
lenthamen | cool you fixed the first problem. | 14:08 |
lenthamen | where was the thread asset ? | 14:08 |
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lenthamen | going to have lunch. ttyl. | 14:09 |
i4n | oke doei len | 14:09 |
i4n | i mean | 14:10 |
i4n | ok cya len | 14:10 |
+MrHairgrease | I think it is now on the clipboard | 14:12 |
lenthamen | martin: Admin's clipboard? | 14:37 |
+MrHairgrease | yes | 14:38 |
lenthamen | martin: This issue, is that a bug ? I mean, is it reproducable ? | 14:38 |
+MrHairgrease | I dunno | 14:38 |
+MrHairgrease | but it is a bug | 14:39 |
+MrHairgrease | it is under the IQL55 perimeter | 14:39 |
+MrHairgrease | which is on the clipboard | 14:39 |
+MrHairgrease | you have to paste it somewhere to go to it | 14:39 |
lenthamen | Could you reply on my bug report with the details so it can get fixed ? | 14:40 |
lenthamen | http://www.plainblack.com/bugs/tracker/can39t-call-method-quotgetvaluequot#NsILMqRIN6yXKSdnTUee0w | 14:41 |
+MrHairgrease | ok but later | 14:42 |
+MrHairgrease | bbl | 14:42 |
lenthamen | martin: Is spectre still dieing ? | 14:48 |
i4n | martin left to a graduation party len | 14:52 |
lenthamen | ok tnx i4n | 14:56 |
i4n | np | 14:56 |
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lenthamen | ian: Kan ik doorgeven dat IMT website weer werkt ? | 15:43 |
i4n | eh | 15:46 |
i4n | als het weer werkt dan wel :) | 15:46 |
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ckotil | Anyone familiar w/ webgui's groupware capabilities? | 17:43 |
+MrHairgrease | not really | 17:44 |
+MrHairgrease | by groupware you mean sharing calendars and stuff right? | 17:44 |
ckotil | Id like to have a file repository and task manager. ive found the collaboration system/mesage boards to fulfil the role of the file depository but its heiarchachal structure is limited. the task management function is fine. | 17:44 |
ckotil | yeah, partially | 17:44 |
ckotil | inside a message board asset users can add new forums | 17:45 |
ckotil | but we need at least 3 heirachal levels. so that would mean adding a new message board asset each time to get those 3 levels. as far as i can tell | 17:45 |
+MrHairgrease | ok so what are you missing in the collab system? | 17:45 |
ckotil | im about to post to the etc.. forum asking this. | 17:45 |
+MrHairgrease | oh | 17:45 |
ckotil | unlimited heiarchy levels | 17:45 |
ckotil | to better organize our files. | 17:46 |
+MrHairgrease | it's probably a good idea to post it on the boaard | 17:46 |
+MrHairgrease | Or maybe you can submit a rfe | 17:46 |
+MrHairgrease | and use karma to get it implemented | 17:47 |
+MrHairgrease | however | 17:47 |
+MrHairgrease | afaik there's a code freeze for some significant amaount of time | 17:47 |
+MrHairgrease | just to get 7.0.0 the best webgui ever | 17:47 |
ckotil | that'd take some time. ive got a week ;] . yeah and the feature freeeze | 17:47 |
+MrHairgrease | yeah | 17:47 |
+MrHairgrease | i meant feature freeze | 17:47 |
ckotil | wg is by far the best open source cms ive used yet | 17:47 |
+MrHairgrease | not code freeze | 17:47 |
+MrHairgrease | it's hard to fix bugs with a code freeze in effect =) | 17:48 |
ckotil | we currently use this app bscw for document repository | 17:48 |
ckotil | ;] | 17:48 |
+MrHairgrease | I thingk so too | 17:48 |
+MrHairgrease | however | 17:48 |
+MrHairgrease | I never used another cms | 17:48 |
+MrHairgrease | so I do not have much of a choice | 17:48 |
ckotil | i used mambo/joomla in the past extensively | 17:48 |
+MrHairgrease | not that that bothers me =) | 17:48 |
+MrHairgrease | yeah | 17:48 |
+MrHairgrease | ? | 17:48 |
ckotil | wg group access control blows mambo out of the water | 17:48 |
+MrHairgrease | what's the part that wg does better | 17:49 |
ckotil | thats the main reason i switched | 17:49 |
+MrHairgrease | ok | 17:49 |
ckotil | and its easy to change anything you want in wg | 17:49 |
+MrHairgrease | yeah | 17:49 |
+MrHairgrease | i know | 17:49 |
+MrHairgrease | the api rocks | 17:49 |
ckotil | for sure. | 17:50 |
+MrHairgrease | are you a programmer? | 17:50 |
ckotil | we integrated out central authentication service into it. | 17:50 |
ckotil | not really | 17:51 |
+MrHairgrease | if so you can prolly extend the collab system | 17:51 |
ckotil | a web developer | 17:51 |
+MrHairgrease | to change the hierchy | 17:51 |
+MrHairgrease | oh ok | 17:51 |
+MrHairgrease | the post it to the board i'd say | 17:51 |
ckotil | yeah. ill do that now | 17:51 |
+MrHairgrease | ok. good luck | 17:52 |
+MrHairgrease | afk | 17:54 |
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lenthamen | Martin ? | 17:55 |
bartjol | hij staat achter me | 17:55 |
lenthamen | geef 'm ff een schop dan ;) | 17:56 |
+MrHairgrease | laat maar | 17:56 |
bartjol | hij is wel lief | 17:56 |
+MrHairgrease | engels? | 17:56 |
+MrHairgrease | what is, len? | 17:56 |
lenthamen | Martin, something weird is going on. | 17:58 |
+MrHairgrease | i msged you | 17:58 |
+MrHairgrease | len? | 18:01 |
lenthamen | martin: I mailed you | 18:02 |
lenthamen | something is going wrong with the private messaging. | 18:02 |
+MrHairgrease | ok | 18:02 |
+MrHairgrease | pls wait | 18:02 |
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lenthamen | martin you dont get what I'm /msg ing you, right ? | 18:08 |
+MrHairgrease | no | 18:09 |
+MrHairgrease | do you have msn? | 18:09 |
+MrHairgrease | never mind | 18:09 |
lenthamen | yep: len_blabla@hotmai.com | 18:09 |
+MrHairgrease | i'll caal you | 18:09 |
lenthamen | +l | 18:09 |
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cheecheeo | does anyone know off the top of their head how much webgui interacts with the file system once it's up and running? Specificall writes to the file system? | 22:21 |
ckotil | data/www/public/uploads it writes to quite a bit | 22:25 |
ckotil | when adding new assets that is | 22:26 |
cheecheeo | does it write using the hashified names that are all over the place? | 22:27 |
ckotil | yes | 22:33 |
cheecheeo | cool, we're thinking we're going to use LVS to have a failover/loadbalanced webgui system and LVS uses nfs mounts for all it's shared data so that's why i was asking | 22:35 |
ckotil | nice | 22:37 |
ckotil | Are there any resources online that contain the items specific to wG that go inside the html::template variables in wG? im looking to use dreamweaver and .dwt's to design my template. | 22:41 |
ckotil | bc i think you have to define all the wG specefic variables to dreamweaver. i dunno im very uncleaar on this process | 22:41 |
ckotil | where would i find <tmpl_var icon.small> ? icon.small | 22:57 |
ckotil | ./extras/assets/small/folder.gif | 23:23 |
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mogaal | Hi, i hace a Question | 07:51 |
mogaal | WebGUI is developed under CGI? | 07:51 |
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jose17111 | hello | 00:23 |
jose17111 | anyone up? | 00:24 |
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snapcoun1 | come work with me!!!!!!! | 06:19 |
Radix-wrk | you a contractor snapcoun1? | 06:24 |
snapcoun1 | no | 06:24 |
snapcoun1 | I'm FT | 06:24 |
Radix-wrk | or one of the plainblack staff? | 06:24 |
snapcoun1 | I'm a staffer | 06:25 |
snapcoun1 | I also go by the name Roy Johnson | 06:25 |
snapcoun1 | it's just an alias =) | 06:25 |
Radix-wrk | Ahh k :) | 06:25 |
snapcoun1 | hehe | 06:25 |
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jose17111 | hello | 12:13 |
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ckotil | Thanks crythias. I tried making a package of the asset some time last week, and i couldnt figure it out. I must have overlooked the 'packages' box in the asset menu. | 22:10 |
ckotil | that was too easy. | 22:10 |
+crythias | heh | 22:47 |
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maxscience | hi | 18:31 |
+MrHairgrease | hi | 18:31 |
maxscience | I'm looking for a quote :) | 18:32 |
+MrHairgrease | for the forum auth thing? | 18:32 |
maxscience | exactly.. Not really a forum but anyway | 18:32 |
+MrHairgrease | yeah I know what you mean | 18:33 |
+MrHairgrease | If you want to hire Procolix | 18:33 |
+MrHairgrease | please send an email to management@procolix.com | 18:33 |
+MrHairgrease | containg the work you are quoting for | 18:33 |
+MrHairgrease | please also include urls to the api of the gossamer product | 18:34 |
maxscience | well gossamer APIs are inside the code so you have to download and install the product (just plain perl anyway) | 18:35 |
+MrHairgrease | ok | 18:35 |
+MrHairgrease | so provide a url to the place where the product can be downloaded =) | 18:35 |
maxscience | sure :) did that on the forum too | 18:36 |
+MrHairgrease | oh sorry | 18:36 |
+MrHairgrease | probably overlooked that | 18:36 |
+MrHairgrease | where are you located, btw? | 18:36 |
maxscience | Rome, Italy | 18:37 |
maxscience | and you? NL? | 18:37 |
+MrHairgrease | yeah | 18:37 |
maxscience | k email sent | 18:38 |
+MrHairgrease | all right | 18:38 |
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maxscience | hi | 20:48 |
ckotil | hi | 20:48 |
maxscience | are you a perl programmer? | 20:49 |
ckotil | i dabble | 20:49 |
maxscience | how do you use WebGUI ? | 21:01 |
ckotil | conventional way | 21:09 |
ckotil | apache+mod_perl mysql | 21:09 |
ckotil | Im trying to figure out how to add borders to articles | 21:10 |
ckotil | simliar to slashdot. sort of. same idea anyway | 21:10 |
ckotil | looks like class="content" is where i need to add it. and the article asset. | 21:11 |
ckotil | hrm might have uncovered a bug. or it could just be how wG handles changes to 'import node'assets | 21:31 |
ckotil | i made an edit to the default article asset (i made a copy first and edited it) then set article to use that copy. It took a good 2-5 mionutes for the change to appear. is that spectre.pl that handles those kind of changes? | 21:33 |
ckotil | any other changes i make to content are almost isntant. | 21:33 |
xdanger | cache? | 21:42 |
maxscience | xdanger, read my reply? | 21:47 |
xdanger | yup | 21:51 |
xdanger | there are some bb codes implemented (at least was at some point) | 21:51 |
maxscience | :) | 21:52 |
xdanger | mainly [b] and such... | 21:52 |
xdanger | btw, only reason that I use camino, is webgui ;) | 21:52 |
xdanger | for wverything else safari | 21:52 |
maxscience | you're on mac too? | 21:52 |
maxscience | it should have full Safari support! | 21:53 |
xdanger | yeah | 21:53 |
xdanger | you can bitch about that to moxiocode people ;) | 21:53 |
xdanger | moxiecode that is, sorry =) | 21:54 |
xdanger | http://tinymce.moxiecode.com/ | 21:54 |
maxscience | Done already ;) | 21:54 |
xdanger | I belive your not the only one ;) | 21:55 |
maxscience | it's not just TinyMCE btw.. Dragging assets doesn't work too with Safari (we can't use the Dashboard with Safari) | 21:55 |
xdanger | But they have stated that they'll be waiting on apple to fix safari | 21:55 |
maxscience | yeah I know. Typical developer attitude lol | 21:55 |
xdanger | .. and not doing some weird voodoo to get safari working... | 21:56 |
xdanger | at one point they did have full safari support, but they dropped it | 21:56 |
xdanger | Funny thing because I belive that JT also uses mac ;) | 21:56 |
maxscience | the community also donated a mac mini! | 21:56 |
maxscience | yeah nice to have a Mac distribution of the WRE | 21:57 |
xdanger | just that macs are slow.. we'll if you don't have a quad G5 or a new dual core laptop | 21:58 |
xdanger | my main computer is a 1G ibook G4, so it's not fun to run WRE on this.. | 21:59 |
maxscience | yeah. I've got a dual G5 and a new 17" Mac Book Pro | 22:01 |
maxscience | new macs are very performing | 22:02 |
ckotil | im on a new intel imac | 22:04 |
ckotil | its slick | 22:04 |
ckotil | i run windows through parallels too | 22:04 |
xdanger | I'd like to have one... | 22:04 |
maxscience | nice | 22:04 |
maxscience | you don't use mac os x? | 22:04 |
ckotil | big ass widescreeen | 22:04 |
ckotil | i do. | 22:04 |
maxscience | good ;) | 22:05 |
ckotil | then i run tis virtual machine app called parallels | 22:05 |
ckotil | which runs windows | 22:05 |
maxscience | Yeah I know it | 22:05 |
ckotil | dual monitors | 22:05 |
ckotil | its beautiful | 22:05 |
ckotil | windows on one , osx on the other | 22:05 |
ckotil | osx 10.5 will suppoort windows binaries natively | 22:07 |
ckotil | cant wait for that | 22:07 |
maxscience | not true | 22:08 |
maxscience | false rumor | 22:08 |
ckotil | damn | 22:08 |
maxscience | They will just incorporate BootCamp technology which will be final... But no virtualization yet. And this is good, better to leave it to parallelis | 22:08 |
maxscience | I can occasionallly boot Windows. That's all I need | 22:09 |
maxscience | where are you from? | 22:11 |
xdanger | finland | 22:12 |
ckotil | indiana, USA | 22:22 |
xdanger | Do you guys know anything about streaming videos? | 22:25 |
xdanger | A good solution ? FOSS... | 22:26 |
maxscience | I run streaming videos on an Xserve. QuickTime Streaming Server is the best solution imho | 22:26 |
maxscience | Also provides remote content management system and video publish on web and on Mac OS X app | 22:27 |
xdanger | must be something thats free and can run on linux | 22:27 |
maxscience | it's actually free. Comes with Mac OS X Server | 22:28 |
xdanger | that's not free =) | 22:28 |
maxscience | but there's the open source equivalent of QuickTime Streaming Server you can deploy on Linux and Windows boxes. It's Darwing Streaming Server, always from Apple | 22:28 |
maxscience | basically same thing but no pretty web interface and mac os x content management app | 22:29 |
maxscience | afterall, it's free ehehe | 22:29 |
maxscience | nothing to reply now? eheh | 22:31 |
xdanger | That I know... Just would like to have something "little" | 22:32 |
maxscience | whatever ;D | 22:32 |
maxscience | another alternative http://www.videolan.org/streaming/ | 22:33 |
xdanger | that was my other alternative =P | 22:34 |
maxscience | brb | 22:35 |
xdanger | and this is one alternative: http://www.mpeg4ip.net/ | 22:35 |
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maxscience | gtg c ya! | 23:28 |
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maxscience | hi | 12:47 |
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ckotil | aw | 19:45 |
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maxscience | Hi ckotil | 20:35 |
maxscience | I saw your reply about the CAS RFE... Many thanks! | 20:35 |
maxscience | does it work on WebGUI 7? | 20:50 |
ckotil | yeah | 20:58 |
ckotil | i use it now | 20:58 |
ckotil | it works flawlessly. i know that it doesnt meet wG standards tho. there are a lot of useless functions in that module | 20:59 |
ckotil | it'd be nice for a wG developer to take a look at it. possibly tweak it | 20:59 |
maxscience | can I ask who developed it? | 21:00 |
ckotil | myself and my coworker | 21:00 |
ckotil | it wasnt hard. | 21:00 |
ckotil | we had plenty of CAS examples to help us | 21:00 |
maxscience | ah :) so why built useless functions? | 21:00 |
ckotil | and ive implemented CAS in the past | 21:00 |
ckotil | we copied WebGUI.pm and worked from there | 21:01 |
maxscience | have you read my "dev wanted" thread? | 21:01 |
ckotil | i used php in the past tho. but it wasnt very differnet in perl | 21:01 |
ckotil | yes. | 21:01 |
ckotil | im already employeed. ;] | 21:01 |
ckotil | it'd be a conflict of inteterest | 21:01 |
maxscience | do you think your method could apply? | 21:01 |
ckotil | geocommunity seems similiar to CAS | 21:01 |
ckotil | pry wouldnt be much of a stretch | 21:01 |
maxscience | why you couldn't do that for me too then? :) | 21:02 |
ckotil | against the rules | 21:02 |
maxscience | ok :) | 21:03 |
maxscience | anyway you need to deploy that java CAS you linked first? | 21:03 |
ckotil | huh? | 21:04 |
maxscience | this one http://www.ja-sig.org/products/cas/ | 21:05 |
ckotil | ah yes. they maintain CAS | 21:05 |
ckotil | I work for indiana university | 21:07 |
ckotil | and our implementation of CAS is a little differnet than the standard yale/jasig CAS | 21:08 |
ckotil | yale developed CAS | 21:09 |
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maxscience | yeah | 21:23 |
maxscience | can I see for which section of the Indiana University website you're using WebGUI? | 21:23 |
ckotil | http://newt.grnoc.iu.edu/webgui | 21:29 |
ckotil | to replace http://globalnoc.iu.edu | 21:30 |
ckotil | we outsourced the website design to a local designer. | 21:30 |
ckotil | they did that before i came on board | 21:30 |
ckotil | kinda pissed me off | 21:30 |
ckotil | its gonna be hell turning her design into a wG template | 21:30 |
ckotil | but i think ill be able to manage | 21:31 |
maxscience | I see | 21:37 |
maxscience | the CAS login/logout images are static though | 21:37 |
ckotil | bc you dont have an iu login | 21:39 |
ckotil | you can sign up for a guest account some how | 21:39 |
ckotil | and i can add you to webgui user list and you can log in | 21:39 |
maxscience | they're not like webgui anyway.. Logout happens just if you're logged in, etc. | 21:40 |
maxscience | Logout appears | 21:40 |
ckotil | logout is always there bc i want users to be able to logout of CAS anytime | 21:40 |
ckotil | login goes away when you're logged in | 21:40 |
maxscience | oh ok | 21:41 |
ckotil | the goal is to haev a unified login system | 21:41 |
ckotil | and throughout the university system they all use CAS | 21:41 |
ckotil | so users are used to having a logout button | 21:41 |
maxscience | but you can't logout if you're not logged in so... :) | 21:41 |
maxscience | ah yes you mean with other university apps | 21:41 |
ckotil | good point. | 21:42 |
maxscience | :D | 21:42 |
ckotil | lol. i havent had any criticism or use on this system yet | 21:42 |
ckotil | ;] | 21:42 |
maxscience | eheh | 21:42 |
ckotil | hrm see that brings up another issue. wG should automatically check with the CAS server to see if the user is already authenticated | 21:43 |
ckotil | but then again, if for some reason the user doesnt want to authenticate with wG | 21:43 |
ckotil | bleh , i think its ok the way it is | 21:43 |
ckotil | 1 click login is nice. i know that much. | 21:44 |
maxscience | that's what I said so far ;) | 21:44 |
ckotil | *1 click , if you already authenticated w/ CAS | 21:44 |
ckotil | it keeps you logged into the system for 8 hours | 21:44 |
maxscience | yeah just like kerberos | 21:44 |
ckotil | so in those 8 hours you can access any univeristy system that you have priveleges too | 21:44 |
ckotil | yeah we run CAS on top of kerberos | 21:45 |
maxscience | gtg bye! | 21:56 |
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ckotil | so whats a good amount of karma? | 23:13 |
ckotil | is 500 good? | 23:13 |
ckotil | im anxious for the wG gear | 23:26 |
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jose_17_11 | hello, ping anyone? | 00:25 |
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maxscience | hi | 11:31 |
jose_17_11 | hi | 11:37 |
maxscience | you're a perl programmer? | 11:39 |
Radix-wrk | hiya | 11:46 |
maxscience | you're a perl programmer? | 11:46 |
Radix-wrk | nope.. I wish | 11:47 |
Radix-wrk | I'm a programmer, but my knowledge of perl is still very basic unfortunately | 11:48 |
Radix-wrk | sorry :( | 11:48 |
maxscience | np :) | 11:50 |
jose_17_11 | maxscience: not at all | 11:53 |
jose_17_11 | guys, which linux distribution is best for use w/ webgui? | 11:54 |
maxscience | Mac OS X ;) | 11:54 |
jose_17_11 | i have tested both slackware and archlinux and it is such a pain to install perl modules w/ CPAN | 11:54 |
maxscience | not really linux but unix | 11:54 |
jose_17_11 | dependency hell | 11:54 |
maxscience | they recommend Mac OS X too | 11:54 |
jose_17_11 | maybe therefore i put it as a linux not unix distribution | 11:54 |
jose_17_11 | oh well.. on an intel hardware.. | 11:55 |
maxscience | Apple hardware is now based on Intel anyway ;) | 11:56 |
jose_17_11 | yes but this is the opposite case | 11:57 |
Radix-wrk | I use debian | 12:07 |
jose_17_11 | Radix-wrk: seems like a reasonable choice | 12:07 |
Radix-wrk | in most cases I can apt-get the perl packages I need and it handles all of the dependencies for me | 12:08 |
Radix-wrk | and once installed - apt-get upgrade will keep them uptodate | 12:08 |
jose_17_11 | hmm.. yes, i'd like that | 12:08 |
Radix-wrk | only downside is that most of the packages webgui uses are quite new - and only in the 'testing' version of debian | 12:08 |
jose_17_11 | so i'd have to unmask/uncomment testing repository, that's all, right? | 12:09 |
Radix-wrk | which is a slightly more volatile and more updated version of debian | 12:09 |
Radix-wrk | yeah | 12:09 |
Radix-wrk | The way I've always done it is to run testEnvironment.pl that comes with webgui | 12:09 |
Radix-wrk | once it brings up a package it doesn't have I do an apt-cache search <name> for it | 12:10 |
Radix-wrk | 9/10 it's in the apt repository | 12:10 |
jose_17_11 | and the remaining 10 % via CPAN install, ay? | 12:11 |
Radix-wrk | yup.. though.. there's a guy who has written some additional debian packages for those that debian doesn't have as yet | 12:11 |
Radix-wrk | http://deb.cyberdiscordia.org/ | 12:11 |
Radix-wrk | that includes all of the packages needed for webgui 7 | 12:12 |
jose_17_11 | hmm.. impressive | 12:12 |
jose_17_11 | time to dump arch (?) | 12:12 |
Radix-wrk | I've never used archlinux myself | 12:13 |
jose_17_11 | slackware-based/like | 12:13 |
Radix-wrk | the other way is using the WRE - which builds everything for webgui | 12:13 |
Radix-wrk | I've just never had much luck with building it on debian | 12:13 |
Radix-wrk | got a copy of fedora here that I was going to try it on sometime, as there is a prebuilt package for Redhat | 12:14 |
jose_17_11 | i have tried WRE but w/o luck either | 12:14 |
Radix-wrk | since I use debian for every other system here in the office, I'm keen to keep things simple and stick with what I know tho | 12:14 |
Radix-wrk | anyhow.. I'm off home :) | 12:16 |
jose_17_11 | so you do a manual debian install everytime? | 12:16 |
Radix-wrk | every time? | 12:16 |
Radix-wrk | only got one webgui system | 12:16 |
Radix-wrk | If you do want to clone it - you can use dpkg --get-selections > package.list to grab the complete list of packages on that system | 12:17 |
Radix-wrk | and then go to the new debian system and type 'dpkg --set-selections < package.list' | 12:17 |
Radix-wrk | then do an apt-get dselect-upgrade and it will download every package on that list and install it | 12:18 |
Radix-wrk | apt-get rocks ;) | 12:18 |
Radix-wrk | I did that to create my virtual machine test bed that I've been using to test our site with webgui 7 | 12:18 |
jose_17_11 | i will give archlinux one more day.. and then | 12:19 |
Radix-wrk | Good luck! :) | 12:19 |
jose_17_11 | thank you | 12:19 |
Radix-wrk | I'm off home now.. been a long day | 12:19 |
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maxscience | hi | 18:49 |
+MrHairgrease | hi | 18:51 |
maxscience | any news on the plugin? :) | 18:52 |
+MrHairgrease | I dunno | 18:52 |
+MrHairgrease | I'm just the minion =) | 18:52 |
maxscience | k | 18:52 |
+MrHairgrease | Could take at least a week or two before you hear something | 18:52 |
+MrHairgrease | most of the management is on hollidays | 18:52 |
+MrHairgrease | sorry that I forgot to tell you that last time | 18:53 |
maxscience | oh | 18:53 |
maxscience | could you estimate a quote? | 18:53 |
+MrHairgrease | no | 18:53 |
+MrHairgrease | what is your budget? | 18:53 |
maxscience | very low unfortunately... non-profit website | 18:54 |
+MrHairgrease | very low is what $100? | 18:54 |
+MrHairgrease | $200? | 18:55 |
+MrHairgrease | $1? =) | 18:55 |
maxscience | yeah about 100 | 18:55 |
+MrHairgrease | I don't think we can do it for that | 18:55 |
+MrHairgrease | sorry | 18:55 |
maxscience | Probably 200 but I don't think more than that | 18:56 |
+MrHairgrease | I think that won't make it either | 18:56 |
maxscience | so you do have an estimate.. What it is? | 18:57 |
+MrHairgrease | No I don't | 18:57 |
maxscience | bah | 18:57 |
+MrHairgrease | but I know that $ 200 wil probably buy you 2 - 3hours of my time | 18:57 |
+MrHairgrease | so I think I won't be able to do it in that | 18:57 |
+MrHairgrease | Also | 18:58 |
+MrHairgrease | please understand that I don not rake in the deals here | 18:58 |
+MrHairgrease | I'm a programmer | 18:58 |
maxscience | well probably 3 hours are enough... Look here http://www.plainblack.com/rfe/request-for-enhancement/central-authentication-service | 18:58 |
+MrHairgrease | parttime | 18:58 |
+MrHairgrease | maybe | 18:59 |
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jose_17_11 | hella | 19:00 |
+MrHairgrease | I don't see how this is related to the gossamer product | 19:00 |
jose_17_11 | http://195.113.96.198 | 19:00 |
+MrHairgrease | and it aparently already exeists | 19:00 |
jose_17_11 | this is supposed to be a webgui running server | 19:00 |
+MrHairgrease | hmmm | 19:01 |
+MrHairgrease | i dunno | 19:01 |
jose_17_11 | WTF is 'It works?' | 19:01 |
+MrHairgrease | webgui server should look diffrent imho =) | 19:01 |
maxscience | it is related.. It's an auth module that could be very similar to the one for gossamer community | 19:01 |
+MrHairgrease | what have you done? | 19:01 |
+MrHairgrease | yeah | 19:01 |
+MrHairgrease | could be | 19:01 |
maxscience | I guess it's just the wre's apache | 19:01 |
+MrHairgrease | anyway, for a quote please wait on the reply of my bosses. | 19:02 |
+MrHairgrease | did you already create a site jose? | 19:02 |
maxscience | k | 19:02 |
jose_17_11 | i have pretty mutched followed this howto http://www.plainblack.com/gentoo_linux | 19:03 |
jose_17_11 | not everything tho, cause.. i am running archlinux not gentoo | 19:03 |
jose_17_11 | testEnvir went fine | 19:03 |
+MrHairgrease | that's a start | 19:04 |
+MrHairgrease | which webgui did you try to install | 19:04 |
+MrHairgrease | ? | 19:04 |
jose_17_11 | 7.0.0 | 19:04 |
+MrHairgrease | ok | 19:05 |
+MrHairgrease | It looks like your webserver is sending a standard page | 19:05 |
jose_17_11 | seems so | 19:05 |
+MrHairgrease | and not webgui | 19:05 |
+MrHairgrease | did you configure your virtual host section correctly? | 19:05 |
jose_17_11 | MrHairgrease: am i supposed to be at least somewhat familiar w/ apache configuring? | 19:06 |
+MrHairgrease | that would help | 19:06 |
+MrHairgrease | can you paste your httpd.conf | 19:06 |
+MrHairgrease | on rafb.net? | 19:06 |
jose_17_11 | is it any safe? | 19:06 |
+MrHairgrease | then i'll have a quick look | 19:06 |
+MrHairgrease | why not? | 19:06 |
jose_17_11 | just asking | 19:07 |
+MrHairgrease | you don't have sensitive data in there right? | 19:07 |
+MrHairgrease | one question | 19:07 |
+MrHairgrease | did you specify a server name for you vhost? | 19:07 |
jose_17_11 | http://rafb.net/paste/results/x9lheL25.html | 19:09 |
jose_17_11 | theres nothing as of now | 19:09 |
jose_17_11 | now you are talking a bit complicated language | 19:09 |
+MrHairgrease | hmm | 19:09 |
jose_17_11 | a network administration cookbook is to be seen yet | 19:10 |
+MrHairgrease | well this does not tell me much | 19:10 |
+MrHairgrease | did you do any editing of httpd.conf? | 19:10 |
+MrHairgrease | or other apache configuration? | 19:10 |
jose_17_11 | this is httpd.conf | 19:13 |
+MrHairgrease | yeah | 19:13 |
jose_17_11 | i have not made any other edits | 19:13 |
+MrHairgrease | but there's nothing webgui releated in there | 19:13 |
+MrHairgrease | you should tell apache that it has to serve webgui | 19:13 |
jose_17_11 | like DocumentRoot /opt/apache/WebGUI/www ? | 19:14 |
+MrHairgrease | not quite | 19:14 |
+MrHairgrease | wait a minute pls | 19:14 |
jose_17_11 | take your time | 19:16 |
+MrHairgrease | http://rafb.net/paste/results/PoEKJK70.html | 19:18 |
+MrHairgrease | try to put that above the includes in your apache conf | 19:18 |
+MrHairgrease | substiute all the paths for the ones in your situation | 19:19 |
+MrHairgrease | and also edit preload.perl and set the correct path in that file | 19:19 |
+MrHairgrease | at the top | 19:19 |
+MrHairgrease | gotta go now | 19:19 |
+MrHairgrease | but i'll be back later | 19:19 |
+MrHairgrease | probably at least | 19:19 |
+MrHairgrease | good luck. | 19:19 |
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+MrHairgrease | jose | 21:19 |
+MrHairgrease | did you get it to work? | 21:19 |
jose_17_11 | hello, thank you for your concern | 21:19 |
jose_17_11 | well.. not really | 21:19 |
jose_17_11 | but i'll get to that | 21:19 |
+MrHairgrease | oh | 21:20 |
+MrHairgrease | that's too bad | 21:20 |
jose_17_11 | first i put your few lines to the beginning of my httpd.conf.. restarted apache (apachectl restart). no change | 21:20 |
jose_17_11 | then i put them somewhere i thought that would be better | 21:20 |
jose_17_11 | nada.. | 21:20 |
+MrHairgrease | are you sure that's the conf file your apache is using? | 21:21 |
jose_17_11 | so what i have done finally was i took a httpd.conf from a running server (i want to migrate from) and correct the paths to webgui | 21:21 |
+MrHairgrease | oh wait | 21:21 |
+MrHairgrease | the beginning? | 21:21 |
jose_17_11 | oh well.. not quite sure | 21:21 |
+MrHairgrease | bettr put them somewhere at the end | 21:21 |
jose_17_11 | i'll do that | 21:21 |
+MrHairgrease | and try commenting out the include directive | 21:21 |
+MrHairgrease | directives* | 21:21 |
jose_17_11 | what do you mean by include directives? i see no 'include' keyword | 21:23 |
+MrHairgrease | Include | 21:24 |
+MrHairgrease | at the end of your httpd.conf | 21:24 |
+MrHairgrease | somewhere | 21:24 |
jose_17_11 | hmm. ok | 21:25 |
jose_17_11 | i guess this might be interesting. from console stdout: | 21:25 |
jose_17_11 | httpd: apr_sockaddr_info_get() failed for myhost | 21:25 |
jose_17_11 | httpd: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.0.1 for ServerName | 21:25 |
+MrHairgrease | did you use a ServerName directive in het virtualhost declaration? | 21:26 |
+MrHairgrease | it does say btw. | 21:26 |
+MrHairgrease | that you're editing the right file | 21:26 |
+MrHairgrease | can you paste the contents of you current file? | 21:27 |
jose_17_11 | ServerName my.domain.com | 21:27 |
jose_17_11 | i sure can | 21:27 |
+MrHairgrease | try making it a domain-name that exists | 21:27 |
+MrHairgrease | the name of your site | 21:27 |
+MrHairgrease | maybe that helps | 21:27 |
+MrHairgrease | still, paste your conf though | 21:28 |
jose_17_11 | gimme a sec | 21:29 |
jose_17_11 | please | 21:29 |
+MrHairgrease | sure | 21:29 |
jose_17_11 | http://phpfi.com/130936 | 21:31 |
jose_17_11 | my site does not have a DNS entry | 21:31 |
jose_17_11 | btw how did you know that we are editing the right file? | 21:31 |
+MrHairgrease | b/c the output of the httpd changes | 21:31 |
jose_17_11 | uhm, aha.. well, i am not any wiser. but nevermind | 21:32 |
+MrHairgrease | do you see something else being output? | 21:33 |
+MrHairgrease | like starting webgui 7.0.0? | 21:33 |
jose_17_11 | nope | 21:34 |
jose_17_11 | what you see is what i get | 21:34 |
jose_17_11 | after # apachectl restart | 21:34 |
+MrHairgrease | what does /var/log/httpd/error_log say? | 21:35 |
jose_17_11 | there is none | 21:36 |
+MrHairgrease | weird | 21:36 |
jose_17_11 | yes, i am a disaster | 21:36 |
+MrHairgrease | please remove the first LoadModule perl_module line frm the config | 21:37 |
+MrHairgrease | also comment out the Inlcude httpd-default.conf line | 21:37 |
jose_17_11 | oops, i must have missed that one | 21:38 |
jose_17_11 | http://195.113.96.198/ -- nichts | 21:38 |
+MrHairgrease | remove the servername directive in the virtualhost | 21:39 |
jose_17_11 | gone | 21:39 |
jose_17_11 | anything else? | 21:39 |
+MrHairgrease | dunno | 21:40 |
+MrHairgrease | try and see | 21:40 |
+MrHairgrease | it is very hard to do this kind of stuff through irc | 21:40 |
jose_17_11 | MrHairgrease: may i priv msg you? | 21:40 |
+MrHairgrease | sure | 21:40 |
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+crythias | hm | 22:02 |
maxscience | hi | 22:06 |
+crythias | hi | 22:07 |
* crythias disclaims that he is not an employee, shill, or advertisement bug for WebGUI. | 22:08 | |
maxscience | lol | 22:09 |
+crythias | btw... I also claim that digg.com is depressing. | 22:09 |
+crythias | So much so that I will endevour not to return. | 22:09 |
ckotil | i dont go to it | 22:09 |
jose1711 | hi crythias | 22:09 |
+crythias | hey jose | 22:10 |
maxscience | deploying my WRE tomorrow ;) | 22:10 |
jose1711 | so after all i am going to switch to CENTOS, cause archlinux is just no good when it comes to perl packages | 22:10 |
+crythias | digg reminds me how much democracy stinks :) | 22:10 |
maxscience | switch to Mac OS X man ;) | 22:10 |
+MrHairgrease | later guys | 22:11 |
ckotil | i do like osx. | 22:11 |
jose1711 | l8r | 22:11 |
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jose1711 | maxscience: you just don't stop teasing me | 22:11 |
ckotil | darwin ports is amazing | 22:11 |
jose1711 | let's make a deal. you are going to buy me an apple hw and i am going to run webgui on mac os x, ok? | 22:12 |
+crythias | freebsd is the kewl thing. all the snobby people are using it. | 22:12 |
* crythias disclaims that he may or may not be included as snobby because he uses FreeBSD | 22:12 | |
maxscience | expensive apple hardware is just a myth man. Do a right comparison and you'll see how cheap they are | 22:12 |
ckotil | i have 2 fbsd machines at home | 22:12 |
ckotil | i love it | 22:12 |
jose1711 | maxscience: ok, then just persuade my boss | 22:12 |
ckotil | and osx has some bsd in it | 22:13 |
jose1711 | bits and pieces | 22:13 |
maxscience | so often bosses are ignorant :D | 22:13 |
ckotil | my boss bought me a new 21" imac ;] | 22:13 |
ckotil | intel dup | 22:13 |
ckotil | duo* | 22:13 |
maxscience | well gtg guys! C ya later | 22:13 |
ckotil | i was neevr a mac man til recently | 22:13 |
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ckotil | next machine i by will be a mac | 22:14 |
+crythias | http://www.nextag.com/mac-mini/search-html | 22:15 |
ckotil | bad link? | 22:15 |
+crythias | is that right? 2MB ram? | 22:16 |
+crythias | http://www.jr.com/JRProductPage.process?Product_Id=4089316&JRSource=nextag.datafeed.APP+MA206LL%2fA | 22:16 |
+crythias | at $800, not bad | 22:17 |
ckotil | ya price is right | 22:17 |
ckotil | tho id opt for a faster chip. im running the 2ghz duo | 22:17 |
ckotil | w/ 1 gig ram . and it barely runs windows through a virtual machine without slowdown | 22:18 |
ckotil | if im running say dreamweaver or photoshop and windows. it has terrible lag | 22:18 |
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+crythias | use exit; | 00:04 |
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cheecheeo | has anyone used commerce effectively with webgui? | 02:01 |
+perlDreamer | I've seen people on the boards who have used it | 02:01 |
+perlDreamer | having problems or just wondering about usage? | 02:02 |
cheecheeo | perlDreamer: Usage. | 02:02 |
+perlDreamer | cheecheeo: have you seen the WRE on Suse bug posting? It has some nice tips for dealing with SUSE problems. | 02:32 |
cheecheeo | perlDreamer: just saw that, pretty cool | 02:39 |
+perlDreamer | but y'all had already got the WRE up and working, right? | 02:39 |
cheecheeo | yeah, do you know what the product macro is? is that something other than the product Asset/content? | 02:42 |
+perlDreamer | yes | 02:43 |
+perlDreamer | the way I understand it, and I may be wrong, the Product Asset is "old" technology. | 02:43 |
+perlDreamer | The product macro lets you display products from the commerce system. | 02:43 |
cheecheeo | i see | 02:43 |
cheecheeo | so I need a crash course on Macros I guess | 02:44 |
+perlDreamer | Macros are easy | 02:44 |
+perlDreamer | and, coincidently, are very well documented | 02:44 |
+perlDreamer | ^Macro(macro_arts); | 02:44 |
+perlDreamer | it's safest to quote all macro arguments, using double quotes | 02:44 |
+perlDreamer | and no spaces between commas and quotes in argument lists | 02:45 |
cheecheeo | where are they documented? | 02:46 |
+perlDreamer | In the help system. | 02:46 |
+perlDreamer | admin on, Admin Console, click on the life preserver icon | 02:46 |
+perlDreamer | alternately, append op=viewHelp to any URL | 02:46 |
+perlDreamer | oh, and for more people how know the commerce system well, try snapcount or MrHairGrease | 02:47 |
cheecheeo | I'm not seeing the life preserver, but I'll try to append the op | 02:48 |
+perlDreamer | the life preserver is circular, white and red stripes alternating with a question mark in the center | 02:48 |
cheecheeo | i got it, I didn't the life preserver from the main admin console window though | 02:49 |
+perlDreamer | that's weird | 02:49 |
+perlDreamer | logged in as Admin? | 02:49 |
cheecheeo | ah, no | 02:50 |
cheecheeo | as a user | 02:50 |
cheecheeo | but with admin rights | 02:50 |
+perlDreamer | really weird | 02:51 |
cheecheeo | oh duh | 02:51 |
+perlDreamer | I'll have to check it out tomorrow. | 02:51 |
cheecheeo | i was looking for a little one off in the corner | 02:51 |
cheecheeo | but it's right there with all the other stuff | 02:51 |
cheecheeo | i see it now | 02:51 |
+perlDreamer | phew | 02:51 |
+perlDreamer | I've done a little more code scrounging | 02:52 |
+perlDreamer | I'm almost positive the Product Assets and Macros are unrelated | 02:52 |
+perlDreamer | You add products to the commerce system via the Product Manager | 02:52 |
+perlDreamer | and manage the commerce settings via the Commerce Manager | 02:53 |
+perlDreamer | Product Manager is called "Products". Commerce Manager is "Commerce". | 02:53 |
cheecheeo | Cool | 02:53 |
+perlDreamer | also, if you find the docs sparse and learn some things, feel free to send in some doc patches. | 02:54 |
cheecheeo | yeah, well now that I actually know how to use the documentation, hopefully I'll be able to get this | 02:55 |
+perlDreamer | cool | 02:55 |
+perlDreamer | headin' home | 02:55 |
+perlDreamer | chat with you later, man | 02:55 |
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jose1711 | ping | 11:06 |
Radix-wrk | pong | 11:08 |
jose1711 | uhm.. well | 11:16 |
jose1711 | hardly considering a switch to CentOS here.. but | 11:17 |
jose1711 | i really do not know whether or not to repartition the disk | 11:17 |
jose1711 | sda1 - 2500 MB | 11:19 |
jose1711 | sda2 - swap 1 GB | 11:19 |
jose1711 | sda3 - 7 GB | 11:19 |
jose1711 | sda4 - 136 GB | 11:19 |
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Radix-wrk | heh.. I had a play with centos today too | 11:31 |
Radix-wrk | installed CentOS 4.3 Server CD | 11:31 |
Radix-wrk | unfortunately I found a bug in the RHEL4 WRE 0.7.1 setup script in doing so - MySQL doesn't seem to start! | 11:32 |
Radix-wrk | that hard disk setup sounds good.. 2.5GB for /boot, 1GB swap, 7GB as your system partition, and the rest is a separate data partition | 11:33 |
jose1711 | 4.3 server DVD is what i am downloading now | 11:34 |
jose1711 | 2.5 for /boot?? | 11:34 |
Radix-wrk | Fair enough.. if you want a full blown server | 11:34 |
jose1711 | i thought of 2.5 for /, 7gb for wre | 11:34 |
jose1711 | /boot contains just the kernel images, nope? | 11:35 |
Radix-wrk | 2.5GB is way too much for /boot really.. only need 100MB or so really.. | 11:35 |
Radix-wrk | yeah.. just for kernel images | 11:35 |
jose1711 | putting /boot onto a separate partition is a bit obsolete as i have read | 11:35 |
Radix-wrk | probably these days.. bit of a legacy thing I guess :) | 11:36 |
jose1711 | ok, i am gonna repartition then, 100 MB, 9.5 gb, rest | 11:36 |
Radix-wrk | I just installed mine onto a virtual machine.. so wasn't too fussed about the partitions that the install did automatically :) | 11:36 |
jose1711 | and that bug.. is it hard to fix? | 11:36 |
Radix-wrk | no idea, I've logged it as a bug in plainblack support and see what they say over the weekend | 11:37 |
jose1711 | luckily centOS is officialy supported | 11:37 |
jose1711 | i am gonna w8 then too | 11:37 |
Radix-wrk | I did set the SElinux stuff as active.. so perhaps that's stopping mysql from working.. dunno | 11:37 |
Radix-wrk | Jul 14 11:12:32 centos lsb_log_message: Couldn't find MySQL manager or server failed | 11:38 |
Radix-wrk | that comes up in the message logs on the machine | 11:38 |
Radix-wrk | no idea what it means or how to take it further | 11:39 |
jose1711 | SElinux stuff.. is it necessary? | 11:39 |
Radix-wrk | probably best not to | 11:39 |
Radix-wrk | but if it's a production server.. hmm.. hard to say.. might prove useful | 11:39 |
jose1711 | it is just security hardened kernel, right, | 11:41 |
Radix-wrk | yup | 11:45 |
Radix-wrk | it might very well be what's stopping the wre mysql from running :) | 11:45 |
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Radix-wrk | but then it might help if you're getting lots of people trying to hack into your webgui server :) | 11:46 |
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jose1711 | please is http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/pbwebgui/wre-0.7.1-rhel4-i386.tar.gz?download compatible w/ centOS4? | 13:27 |
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Radix_ | should be | 14:21 |
Radix_ | centos4 is based on rhel4 | 14:21 |
Radix_ | centos3 is based on rhel3, etc | 14:21 |
jose1711 | anyways it does not include testEnvironment.pl so i better downloaded normal wre | 14:24 |
jose1711 | what i am doing now is running testEnvironment.pl and installing all the missing modules via CPAN. if got into a trouble, i first try to find an RPM package for CentOS and if that fails run force install. is it fine? | 14:25 |
Radix_ | err.. the wre should include all the modules and everything you need! | 14:29 |
Radix_ | that's the whole idea | 14:29 |
Radix_ | you don't even need apache or anything.. just wre and webgui | 14:29 |
Radix_ | testEnvironment is in the webgui source btw.. you still need that | 14:29 |
Radix_ | read the instructions on how to install the wre on the plainblack site | 14:29 |
Radix_ | good luck!.. I'm off again | 14:30 |
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jose1711 | anyone? | 16:18 |
ckotil | hi | 16:21 |
jose1711 | hi, could you please help me w/ webGUI? | 16:23 |
ckotil | illtry. | 16:23 |
jose1711 | i need to reset my dbase apparently cause i am having troubles connecting it | 16:25 |
jose1711 | when i run addsite --admin-db.. --sitename i get: Can't create database 195.113.96.198: database exists | 16:25 |
jose1711 | access denied for user ncnlfqag@localhost | 16:25 |
ckotil | can you log into mysql via mysql client? | 16:25 |
jose1711 | i'll check | 16:26 |
ckotil | just issue drop database webgui; create database webgui; | 16:26 |
ckotil | then run the webgui create tables script | 16:26 |
jose1711 | can't connect to local mzsql server through socket 'var/lib/mysql/mysql.sock' | 16:27 |
ckotil | your server isnt running | 16:27 |
jose1711 | i issued: mysql -u root localhost -p | 16:28 |
ckotil | thats the problem | 16:28 |
ckotil | yaa | 16:28 |
jose1711 | service mysql nor mysqld did not work | 16:28 |
ckotil | ./mysqld_safe & | 16:28 |
ckotil | need to issue that to start the server | 16:28 |
jose1711 | from where? | 16:28 |
ckotil | ./usr/bin/ perhaps | 16:29 |
jose1711 | theres nothing like that | 16:29 |
ckotil | issue , locate mysqld_safe | 16:29 |
jose1711 | mysql mysqlaccess mysqladmin mysqlbinlog mysqlcheck _config dump dumpslow | 16:29 |
ckotil | see if that returns anything | 16:29 |
ckotil | are you sure the mysql server is installed? | 16:30 |
jose1711 | webgui did work a few minutes ago | 16:30 |
jose1711 | so i presume yes | 16:30 |
jose1711 | updateing locate database now | 16:30 |
ckotil | k | 16:30 |
jose1711 | its in /data/wre/prereqs/mysql/bin/mysqld_safe | 16:34 |
ckotil | oh you're running the wre | 16:34 |
ckotil | ive never used that ;] i just have an idea of how it works | 16:34 |
ckotil | but that socket error usually means the server is not running | 16:34 |
jose1711 | i have run ps aux | grep mysql and i see mysqld running | 16:36 |
jose1711 | i need some fresh air. thank you, bye for now | 16:37 |
ckotil | search for that socket error on the forums. | 16:49 |
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maxscience | yo | 17:08 |
maxscience | someone's there? | 17:11 |
ckotil | yo | 17:13 |
maxscience | Just installed WRE and WebGUI | 17:14 |
maxscience | and just found another critical bug... | 17:14 |
maxscience | anyway how do you edit templates globally, for the whole website? | 17:15 |
jose1711 | ckotil: still there? | 17:18 |
jose1711 | i've just come back from luch | 17:18 |
jose1711 | invoked ./mysql instead of mysql and seems i am in | 17:19 |
jose1711 | anyways drop database webgui; is: can't drop database webgui; database doesn't exist | 17:19 |
ckotil | ya | 17:28 |
maxscience | I get a "Problem with request" error when trying to add an article... :( | 17:29 |
ckotil | maxscience: to edit templates globally you just edit the template that everypage is using. | 17:29 |
jose1711 | ckotil: i decided to delete the whole wre folder and rerun ./setup | 17:29 |
jose1711 | what IP addresses will WebGUI be serving requests on -- what should i give him? | 17:29 |
maxscience | yeah but the point is where to do that? | 17:29 |
ckotil | so if its the default template. that will be in root > import node > webgui style 3 | 17:29 |
maxscience | oh k thx | 17:30 |
maxscience | Using the Assets menu in the Admin console? | 17:30 |
ckotil | jose1711: issue create database webgui; | 17:30 |
jose1711 | ckotil: i am running the ./setup script already | 17:30 |
ckotil | maxscience: yes via the asset menu | 17:30 |
ckotil | jose1711: ok, i might be innacurate on some points ehre , since i dont use the wre | 17:30 |
jose1711 | about that query: i'll leave default = nameserver | 17:31 |
jose1711 | ok? | 17:31 |
ckotil | see i dunno. i didnt have that step | 17:31 |
jose1711 | ok, i'll see what happens then | 17:32 |
maxscience | ckotil: I did go inside the WebGUI 7 Style 3 folder asset but... The Style 03 template has no Edit link!! | 17:32 |
maxscience | ah lol cause it's locked wait | 17:32 |
ckotil | make a copy of those files before you start editing | 17:33 |
maxscience | damn it doesn't go... | 17:34 |
maxscience | I edit it but when I save, I see again the locked image next to it | 17:34 |
jose1711 | ran ./addsite --.. and can't conect to local MySQL server again | 17:34 |
maxscience | I committed changes but it's same as before | 17:34 |
ckotil | are you sure the page layout is set to use that template? | 17:35 |
maxscience | yes! | 17:35 |
ckotil | give it a minute | 17:36 |
ckotil | sometimes it takes a while for the changes to be seen | 17:36 |
ckotil | especially with templates. they arent immediate like content changes | 17:36 |
maxscience | bah if it's that way it's not really a great thing... | 17:36 |
ckotil | uhm...you shoudlnt be editing your template all the time | 17:36 |
maxscience | But why it becomes locked after I save it? | 17:36 |
ckotil | version control | 17:37 |
jose1711 | ckotil: i created 'database webgui' | 17:37 |
ckotil | jose1711: next step is to run create.sql | 17:37 |
maxscience | version control? But I commit my changes | 17:37 |
ckotil | maxscience: shouldnt be locked then. :/ | 17:37 |
maxscience | That's what I'm saying! | 17:38 |
maxscience | But it's still locked | 17:38 |
ckotil | is spectre.pl running? | 17:38 |
maxscience | how do I check it? | 17:38 |
ckotil | ps aux | gre[ spectre.pl | 17:38 |
ckotil | ps aux | grep spectre.pl | 17:38 |
maxscience | yeah two processes | 17:39 |
maxscience | spectre.pl --daemon | 17:39 |
maxscience | and spectre.pl | 17:39 |
ckotil | k one is the ps aux | grep spectre.pl prcess itself. | 17:39 |
ckotil | the other is spectre.pl | 17:39 |
ckotil | so that seems fine | 17:39 |
ckotil | i dunno why it would still be locked after you commited the changes | 17:40 |
maxscience | yeah lol in fact for one it's written perl and for one grep | 17:40 |
ckotil | yup | 17:40 |
jose1711 | mysqlimport webgui create.sql -p | 17:40 |
jose1711 | Error: you have an error in your SQL syntax; check the manual that corresponds to your MySQL server verion for the right syntax to use near 'create 0 LINES' at lien 1, when using table: create | 17:40 |
maxscience | it's a bug? I read that version 7 had many spectre related bugs | 17:40 |
maxscience | but I installed all the latest | 17:40 |
ckotil | mysql -u webgui -p webgui < create.sql | 17:40 |
ckotil | thats assuming your user is webgui and database name is webgui | 17:41 |
maxscience | there is no other way to edit those templates? I can't edit them by hand? | 17:41 |
ckotil | mysql -u username -p database name < create.sql | 17:41 |
ckotil | cant do it by hand bc its all in the database. you COULD, but itd be a pain | 17:41 |
ckotil | do this. | 17:42 |
ckotil | copy the template files | 17:42 |
ckotil | then edit the copies | 17:42 |
ckotil | and then create a new page alyout, and in the design tab choose the new template | 17:42 |
jose1711 | and then? | 17:42 |
ckotil | chances are your new template wont show up in the list to choose from. in that case i forget how to add it to the list. but i figured it out in 5 minutes by tinkering with it. | 17:42 |
maxscience | ok so I unlock again the template? By unlocking it I have to click on the lock image and then delete my latest revision | 17:42 |
ckotil | jose1711: then yoiu should be good to go | 17:43 |
ckotil | assuming perload.perl is setup, and testEnvironment.pl pass | 17:43 |
ckotil | and your webgui.conf is ok | 17:43 |
ckotil | and spectre starts ;] | 17:43 |
jose1711 | rc.webgui start hans after mod_proxy started | 17:44 |
ckotil | are you using the wre? | 17:44 |
jose1711 | yes | 17:44 |
ckotil | crap. i may be steering you wrong then. i use the conventional method | 17:44 |
maxscience | there is some way I can easily change ports to WRE things (apache and mysql)? Can the setup files do that or I have to manually edit the confs? | 17:45 |
ckotil | port numbers? | 17:45 |
maxscience | yeah | 17:45 |
ckotil | they can easily be changed in the confs | 17:45 |
maxscience | yeah I know but where are they lol | 17:46 |
maxscience | in the prereqs folder? | 17:46 |
ckotil | conventional metthod... httpd.conf is the apache conf | 17:47 |
ckotil | im sorry. im not really of any help with the wre | 17:47 |
maxscience | I know that.. I already manage normal apache websites but there is no doc on the WRE structure | 17:48 |
ckotil | you have so much more control by not using the wre. but i can also see how it can be more difficult | 17:48 |
maxscience | oh k :) I guess I found it | 17:48 |
ckotil | hell, i didnt even know of the wre when i first stubmled onto wG a month ago | 17:48 |
maxscience | I run the existing website on MySQL 4 and Apache 1.3 so the WRE was the only go.. Waste of time to go for the source. If WebGUI 7 could have been deployed on apache 1.3 and mysql 4, I'd go with the source install | 17:49 |
ckotil | http://evhead.com/2006/07/massive-tangled-up-tubes.asp | 17:50 |
ckotil | ah. | 17:50 |
ckotil | we run Red Hat enterprise Linux Advance Server 4 | 17:50 |
ckotil | and its pretty much all up to date | 17:50 |
ckotil | via redhat sattelite system | 17:51 |
ckotil | i never liked redhat , then i started working here..... it works. | 17:51 |
ckotil | i wish there was a way to recursively change who may edit assets | 17:56 |
maxscience | mmh I run wremonitor and it says | 17:56 |
ckotil | might have to RFE that | 17:56 |
maxscience | Spectre failed to stop! | 17:56 |
maxscience | Spectre started | 17:56 |
maxscience | Stopping spectre | 17:56 |
maxscience | Spectre failed to stop"! | 17:56 |
ckotil | wierd | 17:56 |
maxscience | and again and again | 17:56 |
maxscience | lol I did a control c but it is running again! | 17:57 |
maxscience | umpf I have to kill the process | 17:57 |
ckotil | yup | 17:58 |
ckotil | i added a cron job to restart it every day | 17:58 |
maxscience | what basically is this spectre? | 17:59 |
maxscience | what it does? | 17:59 |
ckotil | i dont know the specifics, but it does background tasks | 18:00 |
jose1711 | ckotil: the site is up again.. but as before i do not see edit, cup, copy buttons in firefox | 18:00 |
ckotil | jose1711: after turning admin mode on? | 18:00 |
ckotil | are you logged in as admin? | 18:00 |
jose1711 | both: yes | 18:01 |
ckotil | thats wierd man | 18:02 |
ckotil | check your webgui log for errors | 18:02 |
jose1711 | oki | 18:02 |
maxscience | try to clear cookies | 18:02 |
ckotil | ya good call | 18:02 |
ckotil | wG cache's a lot | 18:02 |
jose1711 | ok, will do | 18:03 |
jose1711 | no, nothing | 18:04 |
jose1711 | am i supposed to check webgui.log? | 18:04 |
jose1711 | cause there i only see some spectre errors | 18:04 |
ckotil | well thats not good. | 18:04 |
ckotil | but i dunno if that would prevent edit buttons from showing up | 18:05 |
jose1711 | warning, error and warning | 18:05 |
ckotil | does that admin bar on the left appear? | 18:05 |
jose1711 | visitor conenction from .. attempted to make a spectre workflow runner request but we're only allowd to accept requests from ... | 18:05 |
jose1711 | yes, it's there | 18:05 |
ckotil | if the edit buttons dont show up, and assuming wG is working properly that means you dont have the privelages to edit | 18:05 |
jose1711 | may i msg you? | 18:05 |
ckotil | ok so your spectre isnt talking with wG right | 18:06 |
jose1711 | i am a total n00b | 18:06 |
ckotil | sounds like you need to add the right ip to spectre.conf | 18:06 |
jose1711 | even dunno what the spectre is | 18:06 |
ckotil | the guides tell you to add 127.0.0.1 but in my experiences i had to add the machines real ip address | 18:06 |
jose1711 | my i priv msg you please? | 18:06 |
ckotil | i dont either, i just know wG uses itt | 18:06 |
ckotil | sure | 18:06 |
jose1711 | do you see my message? | 18:08 |
ckotil | ya | 18:08 |
ckotil | yeah do you get my replies? | 18:08 |
jose1711 | nope | 18:09 |
ckotil | o | 18:09 |
ckotil | bc im not registered | 18:09 |
ckotil | hangon | 18:09 |
ckotil | k im out. | 18:14 |
ckotil | err. | 18:15 |
ckotil | so one thing spectre does is pull the latest news from plainblack.com ;] | 18:26 |
maxscience | lol now I don't see the list I saw before when clicking on Assets | 18:28 |
jose1711 | maxscience: still having a problem w/ locking articles? | 18:30 |
ckotil | sounds like u both have the same prob | 18:31 |
ckotil | i think the prob is spectre isnt communicating with webgui | 18:31 |
ckotil | in spectre.conf and webgui.conf make the spectre subnet the machines ip | 18:31 |
maxscience | this is buggy man... | 18:32 |
ckotil | heh | 18:32 |
maxscience | I remember JT saying that the only competitor to WebGUI is Oracle Portal LOL | 18:33 |
ckotil | there are other enterprise cms' | 18:34 |
ckotil | s | 18:34 |
ckotil | but as far as open source cms, wG is in a league of its own | 18:34 |
ckotil | version control, user/group access levels | 18:34 |
ckotil | doesnt exist anywhere else | 18:34 |
maxscience | mmh it seems that there is no spectre.conf in WRE | 18:34 |
ckotil | i used to use mambo/joomla till i got so fed up with group access | 18:34 |
ckotil | and version control. | 18:34 |
maxscience | yeah very nice things IF they work... So far seems buggy | 18:35 |
ckotil | dont blame wG | 18:35 |
ckotil | well you can pry blame the documentation. its a little sparse | 18:35 |
maxscience | I'm not talking about documentation... I'm talking about wG... I still get Bad server response and blank pages | 18:36 |
maxscience | could be WRE that's buggy but it's still plainblack.com | 18:36 |
ckotil | its not configured properly then | 18:36 |
ckotil | i havent had a single error lately | 18:36 |
maxscience | WRE setup scripts configured the thing not me | 18:36 |
ckotil | computers suck. | 18:36 |
maxscience | lol | 18:37 |
ckotil | dont trust em | 18:37 |
ckotil | ;] | 18:37 |
maxscience | Plainblack.com recommends using WRE man ;) | 18:37 |
ckotil | phuck it | 18:37 |
ckotil | i have more control my way | 18:37 |
ckotil | how's that authentication module coming along fo ryou? | 18:38 |
maxscience | again Problem with Request... | 18:38 |
ckotil | check your logs | 18:38 |
maxscience | waiting replies from other devs | 18:38 |
ckotil | you should be able to narrow down whats causing it | 18:39 |
maxscience | yeah but where are they in this WRE thing lol | 18:39 |
ckotil | i dunno | 18:39 |
ckotil | http://phpfi.com/131282 | 18:40 |
ckotil | is jose1711 's problem | 18:40 |
ckotil | and its causing the lock problem | 18:40 |
ckotil | i know it | 18:41 |
ckotil | so i told him to remove 127.0.0.1/32 and just have 195.178.88.67/32 in the config | 18:41 |
ckotil | and it will work | 18:41 |
ckotil | i had the same problem | 18:41 |
ckotil | in the non wre install it exists in two places. webgui.conf and spectre.conf | 18:42 |
maxscience | I have specified just the real ip machine | 18:42 |
ckotil | both in WegGUI/etc | 18:42 |
ckotil | wierd. | 18:42 |
ckotil | so try specifying 127.0.0.1/32 | 18:42 |
ckotil | i took the trial and error approach, and i finally got it all working | 18:43 |
jose1711 | there is 195.113.96.198.conf - is that the one i should edit? | 18:43 |
jose1711 | and under spectreSubnets i have 195.178.88.67/32 and 127.0.0.1/32. the first one is my DNS server | 18:43 |
jose1711 | which one to erase? | 18:43 |
ckotil | hrm | 18:44 |
ckotil | spectreSubnets" : [ "134.68.107.105/32" ], | 18:45 |
ckotil | 18:45 | |
ckotil | # Define the IP Address that should be used by WebGUI to connect | 18:45 |
ckotil | # to Spectre. Depending upon your cluster configuration, this may | 18:45 |
ckotil | # or may not be the same as the information in spectreSubnets. | 18:45 |
ckotil | 18:45 | |
ckotil | "spectreIp" : "134.68.107.105", | 18:45 |
ckotil | 18:45 | |
ckotil | # Define the port number WebGUI should use to connect to Spectre | 18:45 |
ckotil | 18:45 | |
ckotil | "spectrePort" : 32133, | 18:45 |
ckotil | thats my config | 18:45 |
ckotil | webgui.conf | 18:45 |
ckotil | its all gotta be consistent | 18:45 |
ckotil | then in spectre.conf | 18:45 |
ckotil | # config-file-format: JSON 1 | 18:45 |
ckotil | { | 18:45 |
ckotil | # Define the IP address that Spectre should run on. If WebGUI and | 18:45 |
ckotil | # Spectre are on the same machine, you should leave this as is. | 18:45 |
ckotil | "ip" : "134.68.107.105", | 18:45 |
ckotil | # Define a port for Spectre to run on between 1024 and 65000. | 18:45 |
ckotil | "port" : 32133, | 18:45 |
jose1711 | changed all to 127.0.0.1 and restarted webgui | 18:48 |
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jose1711 | could you please take a look on that locks? | 18:48 |
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ckotil | you can do it. then check your logs | 18:49 |
jose1711 | ok | 18:49 |
ckotil | and ifyou still see that communications error form spectre | 18:49 |
ckotil | i recommend changing the ip from 127.0.0.1 to the actual ip of the machine | 18:49 |
ckotil | 127.0.0.1 woudlnt work for me because we use virtual hosts | 18:49 |
jose1711 | hmm, i'll do that then | 18:52 |
ckotil | k | 18:52 |
ckotil | yikes, i got a scary error. /tmp not enough free space for the cache | 18:54 |
ckotil | i need to relocate my tmp dir | 18:54 |
jose1711 | couldnt connec to Spectre because Unable to connect to 193.113.96.198:32133: Connection refused | 18:55 |
jose1711 | firewall prob? | 18:55 |
ckotil | could be | 18:56 |
jose1711 | what is the command to accept all packets? | 18:56 |
jose1711 | iptables -j ACCEPT ... ? | 18:56 |
ckotil | 195.113.96.198/ is the ip you gave me earlier | 18:56 |
ckotil | not 193 | 18:56 |
ckotil | ;] | 18:56 |
maxscience | In the wremonitor.log Spectre goes down SO often!! | 18:56 |
jose1711 | yes, it's 195.. in the log | 18:56 |
ckotil | i dunno ip tables | 18:57 |
ckotil | ask your admin | 18:57 |
* jose1711 is the "admin" | 18:57 | |
ckotil | heh | 18:58 |
ckotil | brb | 18:58 |
ckotil | actually im going for lunch be back in an hour or so | 18:58 |
jose1711 | enjoy | 19:00 |
jose1711 | btw i used iptables -A INPUT -j ACCEPT | 19:00 |
jose1711 | and nothing has changed | 19:00 |
jose1711 | :-( | 19:00 |
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maxscience | hi | 19:04 |
maxscience | I'm having problems with a WRE install of WebGUI | 19:05 |
jose1711 | what sorta? | 19:05 |
maxscience | lol you read so far | 19:06 |
ckotil | you guys have the same prob i believe | 19:07 |
ckotil | im not going to lunch for another 10 minutes. | 19:08 |
jose1711 | were trouble-some guys | 19:09 |
ckotil | the cause is spectre.pl not communicating properly | 19:10 |
jose1711 | have you reported that maxscience? | 19:10 |
+MrHairgrease | oh | 19:10 |
maxscience | yeah I see in the logs that it tries to connect to 127.0.0.1 to restart spectre | 19:10 |
+MrHairgrease | does spectre give an 200 OK error? | 19:10 |
maxscience | but I indicated my real ip when installing WRE | 19:10 |
maxscience | so where to change that? | 19:10 |
+MrHairgrease | old versions of spectre have 127.0.0.1 hardcoded | 19:11 |
maxscience | I have installed latest WRE and latest WebGUI | 19:11 |
maxscience | in the wremonitor.log I see spectre and webserver going down and down | 19:11 |
maxscience | then being restarted | 19:12 |
maxscience | and a "500 Server closed connection without sending any data back" | 19:12 |
+MrHairgrease | maybe it is a firewall thingy? | 19:13 |
+MrHairgrease | I never saw that error | 19:13 |
maxscience | no firewall here | 19:14 |
maxscience | do you know where to change the spectre 127.0.0.1 bind in WRE? | 19:14 |
+MrHairgrease | just grep for it | 19:15 |
+MrHairgrease | for starters you can just replace the ip with your own | 19:15 |
jose1711 | spectre.conf? | 19:16 |
+MrHairgrease | for the hardcoded part, you should prolly check sbin/spectre.pl | 19:16 |
+MrHairgrease | also note that you have to set the correct ip in THREE place in webgui.conf | 19:16 |
+MrHairgrease | also | 19:17 |
+MrHairgrease | if you edit webgui.conf | 19:17 |
+MrHairgrease | you must stop spectre restart apache and start spectre again | 19:17 |
+MrHairgrease | and finally | 19:17 |
+MrHairgrease | when i say restart apache | 19:17 |
+MrHairgrease | i really mean stop and then start apache | 19:17 |
+MrHairgrease | or else mod_perl will leak mem | 19:18 |
maxscience | I have a WRE install not a source install | 19:18 |
+MrHairgrease | ok | 19:18 |
+MrHairgrease | so check the ip's | 19:19 |
+MrHairgrease | in webgui.conf | 19:19 |
+MrHairgrease | and in spectre.pl | 19:19 |
jose1711 | ok | 19:19 |
+MrHairgrease | did centos workl out btw? | 19:19 |
maxscience | still looking for the good webgui.conf file.. Plenty of webgui.conf.override but I guess that one is used by WRE's setup script... | 19:19 |
jose1711 | there is no webgui.conf but 195.113.96.198.conf, is that fine? | 19:19 |
+MrHairgrease | it's probably in WebGUI/etc | 19:20 |
+MrHairgrease | oh | 19:20 |
+MrHairgrease | yeah that must be it | 19:20 |
jose1711 | checked, it should be ok | 19:20 |
jose1711 | i mean - i already changed that | 19:20 |
+MrHairgrease | if you used 195.113.96.198 for your hostname | 19:20 |
jose1711 | should i better restart the whole machine? | 19:20 |
+MrHairgrease | you could do that | 19:20 |
+MrHairgrease | but it shouldn't be necesarry | 19:20 |
jose1711 | ill better do that | 19:21 |
+MrHairgrease | ok | 19:21 |
maxscience | bah when I stop all things using WRE's script, the wremonitor keeps going on because of cron job... So it's pretty useless. Should submit something like 10 bug reports lol | 19:24 |
maxscience | I changed the ip in spectre.pl but the monitor log keeps saying the same errors | 19:25 |
+MrHairgrease | if you found ten bugs than you should submit ten bugs | 19:27 |
+MrHairgrease | if you found one | 19:27 |
+MrHairgrease | ne bugreport should suffice =) | 19:27 |
+MrHairgrease | In that case I dunno what the problem might be. | 19:27 |
maxscience | :( | 19:27 |
+MrHairgrease | have you tried running spectre from the command line | 19:27 |
+MrHairgrease | perl spectre.pl --run --debug | 19:28 |
maxscience | mmh no.. | 19:28 |
+MrHairgrease | try that | 19:28 |
+MrHairgrease | from the WebGUI sbin dir | 19:28 |
+MrHairgrease | It'll give you loads of info | 19:28 |
maxscience | k | 19:28 |
maxscience | It says Can't Locate POE/Compoment/IKC/ClientLite.pm | 19:29 |
jose1711 | seems like the lock are gone!!! | 19:30 |
jose1711 | s/lock/locks | 19:30 |
maxscience | I also run Testenvironment.pl and some things are missing but damn it's a WRE install... It shouldn't include all needed? | 19:30 |
jose1711 | but need to test more | 19:30 |
+MrHairgrease | oh sry | 19:30 |
+MrHairgrease | you should use the perl supplied by the wre | 19:31 |
+MrHairgrease | dunno exactly where that is | 19:31 |
+MrHairgrease | but it's prolly something like | 19:31 |
maxscience | yeah exactly.. That's what I was thinking now.. But this means I have to change the path to perl of all WebGUI's perl scripts? | 19:31 |
+MrHairgrease | /data/prereqs/perl/bin/perl | 19:31 |
+MrHairgrease | no | 19:31 |
+MrHairgrease | just do /data/prereqs/perl/bin/perl spectre.pl --run --debug | 19:32 |
+MrHairgrease | from the WebGUI/sbin directory | 19:32 |
jose1711 | yes guys, they are gone for good | 19:32 |
jose1711 | thank you | 19:32 |
maxscience | ok but spectre.pl has /usr/bin/perl as path to perl... When it runs automatically it uses the system perl not the WRE's perl right? | 19:32 |
+MrHairgrease | don't think so | 19:33 |
+MrHairgrease | depends how the wre runs it | 19:33 |
+MrHairgrease | however | 19:33 |
+MrHairgrease | it is not neat | 19:33 |
+MrHairgrease | better file that as a bug | 19:34 |
+MrHairgrease | anyway | 19:34 |
+MrHairgrease | if you issue the command like i just posted | 19:34 |
maxscience | mmh however I did as you said and now it reports a permission denied error on webgui.log | 19:34 |
+MrHairgrease | the shebang line will be ignored | 19:34 |
+MrHairgrease | reaaly? | 19:34 |
maxscience | yep | 19:34 |
+MrHairgrease | strange | 19:34 |
+MrHairgrease | you probably must ruin spectre as root or something | 19:35 |
+MrHairgrease | at least in the wre | 19:35 |
maxscience | Use your WebGUI within minutes instead than hours by using WRE (from plainblack.com) lol | 19:35 |
+MrHairgrease | hmm well | 19:35 |
+MrHairgrease | it probably has its rough edges | 19:35 |
+MrHairgrease | I have not yet used it | 19:35 |
+MrHairgrease | so it can't really tell | 19:35 |
maxscience | jose how did you resolve the thing? | 19:36 |
maxscience | I could try to change the shebang line to /data/wre/prereqs/etc.etc. ? | 19:37 |
maxscience | the shebang line of spectre.pl | 19:38 |
+MrHairgrease | yeah you could do that | 19:38 |
+MrHairgrease | doesn't hurt anyway | 19:39 |
+MrHairgrease | but it's prbablynot your problem | 19:39 |
+MrHairgrease | or else it would have complained about POE earlier on | 19:39 |
maxscience | not if it's like what I'm saying.. The scripts are using system's perl not WRE's perl | 19:40 |
+MrHairgrease | yeah but if they were using your systems perl... | 19:40 |
+MrHairgrease | they would have complained about poe | 19:40 |
maxscience | of course it's strange... WRE testers (if there are lol) should have take care of that | 19:40 |
+MrHairgrease | which they didn't | 19:40 |
+MrHairgrease | therfore I don't think it's an issue | 19:41 |
maxscience | complained were? In the debug command it did | 19:41 |
+MrHairgrease | sure | 19:41 |
+MrHairgrease | but not when you tried to start it using the wre | 19:41 |
maxscience | ok | 19:41 |
+MrHairgrease | are you using a prebuilt binary? | 19:41 |
maxscience | oh well now I see that spectre.pl has no shebang line at all lol | 19:41 |
+MrHairgrease | or compiled from source yourselve? | 19:41 |
maxscience | no prebuilt | 19:41 |
+MrHairgrease | ok | 19:41 |
+MrHairgrease | what does the debug command say? | 19:41 |
maxscience | it has a shebang line the source equivalent of spectre.pl? | 19:42 |
+MrHairgrease | what has? | 19:43 |
maxscience | the shebang line | 19:43 |
+MrHairgrease | no | 19:43 |
+MrHairgrease | what has the equiv. shebang line? | 19:44 |
+MrHairgrease | the 7.0.0 spectre does not have a shgebang | 19:44 |
+MrHairgrease | and it doesn't need one either | 19:44 |
maxscience | ok so why you said ok when I wanted to change the shebang line of spectre.pl? :D | 19:44 |
+MrHairgrease | b/c I thought you said it had one | 19:45 |
maxscience | yeah I thought :D | 19:45 |
+MrHairgrease | I don't know those thing by hart | 19:45 |
+MrHairgrease | heart* | 19:45 |
+MrHairgrease | i'm only human =) | 19:45 |
+MrHairgrease | so run /data/....../perl/bin/perl spectre.pl --run --debug | 19:45 |
+MrHairgrease | and make sure apache is running | 19:46 |
+MrHairgrease | before you start it | 19:46 |
maxscience | I run that already.. Posted you the result | 19:46 |
+MrHairgrease | oh | 19:46 |
+MrHairgrease | i missed that | 19:46 |
+MrHairgrease | can you post it again pls? | 19:46 |
maxscience | sure | 19:46 |
maxscience | Can't open /data/wre/var/webgui.log (Permission denied) at /path/to/wre/perl/Log/Log4perl/appender/File.pl line 66 | 19:48 |
+MrHairgrease | oh yeah | 19:48 |
+MrHairgrease | so change the privs on that file | 19:48 |
+MrHairgrease | or run it as root | 19:48 |
maxscience | what do you recommed as chmod? | 19:48 |
maxscience | value | 19:48 |
+MrHairgrease | 666? | 19:49 |
maxscience | k | 19:49 |
+MrHairgrease | that should do the trick | 19:49 |
+MrHairgrease | just remember what it is now | 19:49 |
+MrHairgrease | so you can put it back | 19:49 |
maxscience | btw in the webgui.log I got some other permissions errors | 19:49 |
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maxscience | oh sorry :D | 19:49 |
maxscience | which was your last msg? | 19:49 |
+MrHairgrease | n/p | 19:49 |
+MrHairgrease | (18:48:36) maxscience: btw in the webgui.log I got some other permissions errors | 19:49 |
maxscience | yeah regarding uploads dir | 19:50 |
maxscience | in /data/domains/mywebsite.com/public/etcetera | 19:50 |
+MrHairgrease | ok | 19:51 |
maxscience | various uploads dir actually.. Guess it's the whole domains dir probably? Which should be their permissions? | 19:51 |
+MrHairgrease | that prolly means that the perms are not set correctly | 19:51 |
+MrHairgrease | I don't know | 19:51 |
+MrHairgrease | well | 19:51 |
maxscience | yeah I know but WRE should have done that... Btw.. | 19:51 |
maxscience | Anyway | 19:51 |
+MrHairgrease | it should be owend by the user apache run as | 19:51 |
maxscience | oho now I set the right permission to webgui.log | 19:52 |
maxscience | run again the debug on spectre | 19:52 |
maxscience | and I'm seeing LOTS of workflow msgs | 19:53 |
maxscience | ah but wait is still complains | 19:53 |
+MrHairgrease | about... | 19:53 |
maxscience | Error Spectre cannot communicate with WebGUI for mydomain.com.conf, perhaps you need to adjust the spectreSubnets setting in this config file | 19:54 |
+MrHairgrease | first of all | 19:54 |
+MrHairgrease | is your apache runnig | 19:54 |
+MrHairgrease | can you access it | 19:54 |
maxscience | yes | 19:54 |
+MrHairgrease | w/o apache spectre won't work | 19:54 |
+MrHairgrease | ok | 19:54 |
+MrHairgrease | then is teh sitename correct in the conf file | 19:55 |
+MrHairgrease | also are the spectre ip's and subnet settings correct? | 19:55 |
maxscience | dunno.. Where to see em? | 19:55 |
maxscience | When I run spectre with debug it also said: ADMIN: Trying to bind to 127.0.0.1:32133 | 19:56 |
maxscience | But it shouldn't be since I changed that to my real ip also in spectre.pl! I missed something? | 19:57 |
+MrHairgrease | yes | 19:57 |
+MrHairgrease | you did | 19:57 |
+MrHairgrease | spectre ips are set in three places in the config file | 19:58 |
+MrHairgrease | the conf of your host | 19:58 |
+MrHairgrease | it's prolly called mydomain.conf | 19:58 |
maxscience | I haven't that file | 19:58 |
+MrHairgrease | change those to the correct ips | 19:58 |
maxscience | I got just mydomain.com.modperl | 19:58 |
+MrHairgrease | then restart apache then start spectre again | 19:58 |
maxscience | and mydomain.com.modproxy | 19:58 |
+MrHairgrease | in the WebGUI/etc dir | 19:59 |
+MrHairgrease | must be there | 19:59 |
maxscience | damn I'm really tired.. Overlooked that dir. Thanks | 19:59 |
+MrHairgrease | These are the dircetives: spectreIp and spectreSubnets | 20:00 |
+MrHairgrease | only two | 20:00 |
+MrHairgrease | not three | 20:00 |
maxscience | ok changed everything | 20:01 |
maxscience | also in spectre.conf | 20:01 |
maxscience | ok restarting everything | 20:01 |
+MrHairgrease | yeah specter.conf too indeed | 20:01 |
maxscience | now I again run spectre.pl with the debug argument? | 20:01 |
+MrHairgrease | yeah | 20:02 |
maxscience | wow wremonitor.log is not complaining anymore so I guess we've made it! | 20:03 |
+MrHairgrease | good show | 20:03 |
maxscience | many thanks | 20:03 |
+MrHairgrease | n/p | 20:03 |
maxscience | now let's see if I can get things working with the browser... Before I got really strange behaviours... Most likely cause of spectre (I hope) | 20:04 |
maxscience | btw I should control-c that process now? Because I didn't run it with the daemon argument it's flooding my terminal window :) | 20:04 |
+MrHairgrease | well | 20:05 |
+MrHairgrease | you can let it run for some time | 20:05 |
+MrHairgrease | especially if you are testing | 20:05 |
maxscience | ah right | 20:05 |
+MrHairgrease | if it all works kill it | 20:05 |
+MrHairgrease | and start it as a daemon | 20:05 |
maxscience | yeah the wremonitor will do that job.. The problem was that 127.0.0.1 didn't work... I will submit one bug on that cause WRE setup script asked me what ip to bind but didn't change to all files | 20:06 |
maxscience | lol now the wremonitor keeps saying All is well with.... :D | 20:09 |
maxscience | ah btw.. I forgot to mention that I'm running two apaches and two mysqls at the same time | 20:10 |
+MrHairgrease | ok | 20:13 |
maxscience | oh damn again that behaviour... :( | 20:13 |
+MrHairgrease | what behaviour? | 20:13 |
maxscience | I'm trying to edit the Syle03 template via the Assets admin module | 20:14 |
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maxscience | I changed a thing in the code then saved it | 20:14 |
+MrHairgrease | ok | 20:14 |
maxscience | then I clicked on commit my changes | 20:14 |
+MrHairgrease | so far so good | 20:14 |
maxscience | the prob is that it doesn't show on site! | 20:14 |
+MrHairgrease | ok what does the output of spectre say | 20:14 |
maxscience | I'm now back at the assets module and the template has a lock icon... | 20:15 |
+MrHairgrease | yeah | 20:15 |
+MrHairgrease | it's locked couase its pending | 20:15 |
+MrHairgrease | so spectre must give an error | 20:15 |
maxscience | nothing new as before... Yeah but how? I did a commit changes | 20:15 |
maxscience | no error so far it seems | 20:15 |
+MrHairgrease | if you commit | 20:15 |
+MrHairgrease | ok | 20:16 |
+MrHairgrease | shutdown spectre and start it again in the debug mode | 20:16 |
maxscience | I still got two autotags btw.. Strange.. Shouldn't they be removed when I commit changes? | 20:16 |
+MrHairgrease | they're prolly tags from some previus sessions | 20:17 |
maxscience | indeed.. | 20:18 |
maxscience | DAMN! | 20:18 |
+MrHairgrease | check out the pending versions | 20:18 |
maxscience | run again spectre with debug | 20:18 |
maxscience | and it still says Error spectre cannot communicate with Webgui, etc. | 20:18 |
maxscience | same error as before | 20:18 |
maxscience | but now it binds to the right ip.. In fact wremonitor is not complaining as before | 20:19 |
+MrHairgrease | passte your outputpls | 20:19 |
+MrHairgrease | rafb.net | 20:19 |
maxscience | spectre debug output? | 20:20 |
+MrHairgrease | yep | 20:20 |
maxscience | is that your website or just a clipboard? :) | 20:20 |
+MrHairgrease | clipboard | 20:21 |
+MrHairgrease | not mine | 20:21 |
maxscience | k ;) | 20:21 |
maxscience | lol it says I've already pasted! not true | 20:23 |
maxscience | ok here it is | 20:23 |
maxscience | www.rafb.net/paste/results/RRbleo69.html | 20:24 |
+MrHairgrease | see this: | 20:24 |
+MrHairgrease | POE::Component::IKC::Server 4128: encountered bind error 48: Address already in use 4128: IKC Address 140.125.654.32:32133 in use | 20:24 |
+MrHairgrease | i think there's already a spectre runnig | 20:24 |
+MrHairgrease | kill that first | 20:24 |
+MrHairgrease | ps auxf | grep spectre | 20:24 |
maxscience | aha nice spotting | 20:25 |
maxscience | yeah I see two of em | 20:26 |
maxscience | how to kill one? | 20:26 |
+MrHairgrease | kill pid | 20:26 |
+MrHairgrease | pid is the processid | 20:27 |
maxscience | yeah I knew that lol | 20:27 |
+MrHairgrease | ok | 20:27 |
maxscience | done | 20:27 |
+MrHairgrease | and? | 20:29 |
maxscience | what's the recommended thing to do after doing those testings? Like when I logout and then lock back again I have to delete previous tags and previous sessions, clear cache, etc.? | 20:30 |
+MrHairgrease | no | 20:30 |
+MrHairgrease | just start spectre in the debug mode agin and see what it does | 20:30 |
maxscience | ok so I go directly to the asset module? | 20:30 |
+MrHairgrease | it picks up every pending commit | 20:30 |
maxscience | ah yep | 20:30 |
maxscience | I still got that error | 20:31 |
maxscience | Can't communicate with webgui etc. | 20:31 |
+MrHairgrease | oh ic | 20:32 |
+MrHairgrease | check the sitenam in your conf | 20:32 |
maxscience | yeah did that before too but it should be right: | 20:32 |
+MrHairgrease | also check the spectreSubnets directive | 20:32 |
+MrHairgrease | what does it say | 20:32 |
maxscience | it contains: | 20:32 |
maxscience | yeah the spectresubnets contains: | 20:33 |
maxscience | 140.125.654.32 | 20:33 |
+MrHairgrease | that's not valid | 20:33 |
maxscience | 127.0.0.1/32 | 20:33 |
+MrHairgrease | 140.125.654.32 is not an ip | 20:34 |
+MrHairgrease | you made a typo there | 20:34 |
maxscience | ah yeah lol | 20:34 |
maxscience | well anyway it's the real fixed ip of the server | 20:34 |
+MrHairgrease | spectre subnets must be your ip/32 | 20:34 |
+MrHairgrease | for instance 140.125.654.32/32 | 20:34 |
maxscience | ah ok so I delete the second line? | 20:34 |
maxscience | right | 20:35 |
+MrHairgrease | but 140.125.654.32 is not an ipnr. | 20:35 |
+MrHairgrease | it does not exist | 20:35 |
maxscience | yeah I know :) | 20:35 |
+MrHairgrease | ok | 20:35 |
maxscience | btw that first line was added by wre setup script | 20:35 |
+MrHairgrease | which line is the first? | 20:36 |
maxscience | so I delete the second line and the comma at the end of the first line | 20:36 |
maxscience | 140.125.654.32 | 20:36 |
maxscience | added by wre setup script | 20:36 |
+MrHairgrease | ok | 20:37 |
+MrHairgrease | sitename should be only your hostname | 20:37 |
maxscience | ok restarted | 20:37 |
+MrHairgrease | or ip if you don't have one | 20:37 |
+MrHairgrease | understood | 20:37 |
+MrHairgrease | gotta go | 20:39 |
+MrHairgrease | see you later | 20:39 |
maxscience | damn :D | 20:39 |
maxscience | thank you very much for the help | 20:39 |
+MrHairgrease | what is damn? | 20:39 |
maxscience | like "oh, no!" :) | 20:39 |
+MrHairgrease | so it stil does not work? | 20:39 |
maxscience | no cause you have to go eheh | 20:39 |
+MrHairgrease | paste the new output to rafb and i'll have a quick look | 20:40 |
maxscience | thx | 20:40 |
maxscience | no more that error! | 20:40 |
+MrHairgrease | very good | 20:40 |
+MrHairgrease | godd luck then | 20:40 |
+MrHairgrease | later | 20:40 |
maxscience | bye! | 20:40 |
maxscience | thanks | 20:41 |
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maxscience | got another problem here umpf | 20:54 |
maxscience | anybody there? | 21:14 |
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maxscience | hi | 21:28 |
ckotil | i had that prob too. i forget how i fixied it | 21:28 |
ckotil | it was a config problem i believe | 21:28 |
ckotil | :/ sorry i cant be more help | 21:28 |
maxscience | :(( | 21:28 |
maxscience | which prob? | 21:29 |
maxscience | lol | 21:29 |
ckotil | article.pm | 21:29 |
maxscience | ah yeah | 21:29 |
maxscience | damn :( I dunno what could be | 21:29 |
ckotil | read over the install guide again | 21:29 |
ckotil | you got to still be missing something | 21:29 |
ckotil | does testEnvironment pass? | 21:29 |
maxscience | lol install guide | 21:30 |
maxscience | actually I was able to run WebGUI | 21:30 |
ckotil | http://www.plainblack.com/installing_webgui | 21:30 |
maxscience | sorry but it sucks | 21:30 |
ckotil | but its all there. | 21:30 |
maxscience | not really | 21:30 |
maxscience | I used WRE and was able to see WebGUI in less than 10 mins | 21:32 |
maxscience | but it's 4 hours I'm troubleshooting lol | 21:32 |
ckotil | ya | 21:32 |
maxscience | damn | 21:36 |
maxscience | solved all problems so far | 22:59 |
maxscience | thx to Frank too | 22:59 |
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jose1711 | hi, please how to create a submenu? | 11:13 |
jose1711 | aah, page layout i guess | 11:14 |
jose1711 | plz how to dispose any changes? | 12:17 |
Radix_ | go to version control tab and delete the version you've made | 12:19 |
jose1711 | Version Tags you mean? | 12:21 |
jose1711 | i don't see any delete function there | 12:21 |
jose1711 | aah, sorry i see it now | 12:21 |
jose1711 | in the admin section | 12:21 |
jose1711 | please where to set the template for the whole page? | 12:22 |
jose1711 | http://195.113.96.198/ - i don't like 'USTAV INF..' uppercased | 12:22 |
jose1711 | and also i am wondering if it is possible to easily combine two menus - one vertical for a 1st level entries and the second horizontal for the 2nd+3rd level entries | 12:23 |
Radix_ | If you want to change the whole page then you need to design your own style - this is your main site look and feel as such | 13:46 |
Radix_ | your style generally contains your navigation menus (top and side or something like that) | 13:47 |
Radix_ | and it has a placeholder for where the page layout goes | 13:47 |
Radix_ | read the webgui done right documentation - pretty sure (even in the free version) it covers the basics like this | 13:48 |
jose1711 | where in menu can one find the style for the whole page please? | 14:42 |
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Radix_ | each page layout has a setting for style | 16:35 |
jose1711 | yeah well.. but where is the main one? w/ the page background, menus, title of the site etc? | 16:41 |
Radix_ | I think you're a little confused. Each page can pick a style - any pages under that page will by default use that style, but it's up to you whether you keep it that way. | 16:58 |
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jose1711 | hi crythias | 16:59 |
Radix_ | the style you get by default is style 03 if you have a brand new webgui install | 16:59 |
jose1711 | ok, i think i got it but please take a look at 195.113.96.198. i have to change the ?stav informatiky and statistiky | 16:59 |
Radix_ | you can change that to one of the other ones if you want, or customise your own using one of those as the basis | 16:59 |
jose1711 | am i supposed to change style for all existing/used page templates? | 17:00 |
Radix_ | generally speaking, you shouldn't change any existing styles/templates | 17:00 |
Radix_ | you should copy an existing one, and customise it | 17:00 |
Radix_ | you do that by clicking on Manage next to style, and then using the copy option to make a copy of an existing one | 17:01 |
Radix_ | if you change an existing one - you may lose your changes if you upgrade | 17:01 |
jose1711 | hmm.. i tried backup script now and got 'gzip: /backup/*tar: No such file or directory | 17:05 |
jose1711 | Can't call method "login" on an undefined value at ./backup line 33 | 17:05 |
jose1711 | any idea? | 17:05 |
Radix_ | did you cd /data/sbin to run it? | 17:08 |
jose1711 | /data/wre/sbin | 17:13 |
Radix_ | dunno man, sorry | 17:14 |
jose1711 | well actually i see 3 new files inside /backup.. | 17:16 |
jose1711 | is that it? | 17:16 |
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p3z | aloha | 23:01 |
jose1711 | aloha friend | 23:11 |
p3z | does anybody have info on when the win zip-n-go will be available? | 23:17 |
jose1711 | no idea what's zip-n-go | 23:19 |
p3z | it's a package of all the needed sw to run webgui, as the name says you only have to unzip it and run the services to go | 23:22 |
jose1711 | how much it differs from wre? | 23:25 |
p3z | as I know it is tha equivalent of wre in windows | 23:29 |
p3z | wre needed under *nix, zip-n-go needed under windows OSes | 23:29 |
jose1711 | oh, i see... didn't know wre is only un*x thing | 23:31 |
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ckotil | that link checker is nice. | 18:09 |
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maxscience | hi | 17:03 |
ckotil | hey maxscience | 17:05 |
maxscience | I need some help with templates | 17:08 |
ckotil | heh | 17:08 |
ckotil | im about to need help on them too | 17:08 |
maxscience | :D | 17:09 |
ckotil | shit. my clipboard isnt working all of a sudden | 17:53 |
ckotil | and i see 0 errors | 17:53 |
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Radix-wrk | morning crythias | 04:10 |
+crythias | evening :) | 04:10 |
* crythias causes problems. | 04:10 | |
Radix-wrk | oh? | 04:10 |
+crythias | yeah | 04:11 |
+crythias | it's all about me. | 04:11 |
* crythias is also strangely fascinated with Naruto. | 04:13 | |
Radix-wrk | heh | 04:13 |
Radix-wrk | anime fan huh? | 04:13 |
+crythias | yeah. Now that Yu-Gi-Oh is over, and Yu-Gi-Oh GX is between seasons... :) | 04:13 |
Radix-wrk | LOL | 04:14 |
* crythias even has a subscription to yu-gi-oh online :) | 04:15 | |
+crythias | I'm such a ne'er-do-well | 04:16 |
Radix-wrk | Been to tokyo? :) | 04:17 |
+crythias | want to. | 04:17 |
Radix-wrk | heh.. it's an amazing place.. and you'd love it if you like anime :) | 04:18 |
+crythias | I think I'd be sick of Hello Kitty, though :) :) :) | 04:18 |
Radix-wrk | surprisingly enough, I had to hunt around for hello kitty stuff! | 04:18 |
Radix-wrk | (my daughter loves hello kitty) | 04:19 |
Radix-wrk | I spent many days in Akihabara too.. could've spent weeks in there really | 04:19 |
+crythias | sushi... mmm. on boats... that float... | 04:19 |
Radix-wrk | friend of mine went to some sort of Ghibli museum there when he went too.. that would've been awesome | 04:20 |
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+perlDreamer | anyone familiar with Image::Magick tonight? | 07:49 |
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libregeek | I have recently upgrade webgui to 7.0.1 from 6.6.3, I have completed all the configuration and when I run preload.perl it gives me an error like this: "Can't locate object method "server" via package "Apache2::ServerUtil" at preload.perl line 54." | 13:19 |
libregeek | what could be wrong? | 13:19 |
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ckotil | Can't use an undefined value as an ARRAY reference at ../lib/Spectre/Workflow.pm line 199. | 17:11 |
ckotil | Any idea whats causing that? | 17:11 |
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Radix_ | yup | 17:21 |
Radix_ | As a temporary fix you can change line 196 from: | 17:22 |
Radix_ | my $priority = $self->{_instances}{$instanceId}{priority}; | 17:22 |
Radix_ | to | 17:22 |
Radix_ | my $priority = $self->{_instances}{$instanceId}{priority} || 1; | 17:22 |
ckotil | ok ill give that a shot. | 17:22 |
ckotil | you think thats the cause of my clipboard problem? | 17:22 |
ckotil | well i reverted back to 7.0 | 17:53 |
ckotil | db and all. so im no longer having the clipboard issue | 17:53 |
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Radix-wrk | mornin' | 04:55 |
Radix-wrk | ooh.. WebGUI 7.0.2 is out | 06:29 |
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Radix-wrk | Shh.. everyone be quiet.. crythias is here. | 08:00 |
* Radix-wrk is pretty confident that noone will say anything for hours now. | 08:01 | |
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Radix_ | crythias, did you see this link - http://jamie-sam.livejournal.com/3432.html | 14:21 |
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ckotil | mmmmm gaim | 20:32 |
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ckotil | I want to integrate a web app we have that queries backbone routers. And i want webgui to control access to the app. So i cannot simply use an iframe or http proxy. since a user could just access the url directly. Do I need to turn the web app into a wobject? | 15:42 |
ckotil | i havent been able to find a good example of a 'web app' on the contributions page | 16:16 |
xdanger | can't you firewall the routers access to only to the webgui server, so then you could use the httpproxy | 16:17 |
ckotil | yes. i think we could. | 16:17 |
ckotil | but. | 16:18 |
ckotil | the http proxy can only access pages that require no authentication | 16:18 |
ckotil | see what i mean? users could just access the url http proxy is grabbing | 16:22 |
ckotil | will http://www.plainblack.com/wobject_code_template#hl2zNsWb2bjHVur5zGF4nw work with 7.0? | 16:26 |
xdanger | you can provide it with the authentivation by http://user:passwd@domain.com/ | 17:33 |
xdanger | ckotil: this is a better way to start: http://www.plainblack.com/wobject_tutorial | 17:35 |
xdanger | ckotil: there is also a skeleton for a wobject in webgui... https://www.plainblack.com/downloads/builds/7.0.2-stable/WebGUI/lib/WebGUI/Asset/Wobject/_NewWobject.skeleton | 17:40 |
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ckotil | ok. thx | 17:54 |
ckotil | ive read that tut a couple times | 17:55 |
ckotil | im not clear on how to see/import the wobject form the asset tree | 17:56 |
ckotil | about the authentication. we use CAS, central authentication system. i coudlnt come up with a way to integrate it into http proxy | 18:11 |
ckotil | CAS stores a cookie in the browser. i guess i COULD hand that off to http proxy some how | 18:11 |
ckotil | big mess tho. id rather use wG's framework for the apps | 18:13 |
ckotil | but its going to be tough to get people to develop the apps as wobjects | 18:13 |
ckotil | or it may get dumped to me and that would...suck | 18:13 |
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ckotil | the wobject template needs $my session = shift; in sub view{} | 20:37 |
ckotil | or else it errors out | 20:37 |
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ckotil | how much documention on wobject devlopment is in webgui done right? | 22:35 |
+perlDreamer | I'd look, but I think PB's site is down | 22:41 |
+perlDreamer | yup, they're down | 23:07 |
ckotil | ah. | 23:08 |
ckotil | well its the weekend now. cya monday | 23:08 |
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ckotil | Im about to put in an order for webgui done right. | 18:21 |
ckotil | how long till the wobject wizard is finished? | 20:05 |
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ckotil | The online order form for webgui done right is not working | 15:29 |
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xdanger | ckotil: you should report it in bugs | 15:51 |
ckotil | k | 15:51 |
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lenthamen | aloa | 16:17 |
ckotil | how complex can a macro be? | 17:22 |
ckotil | can you include other script files from the macro? | 17:23 |
lenthamen | hey ckotil | 17:33 |
ckotil | hi | 17:33 |
lenthamen | macro's are the easiest way of adding logic to a webgui page. | 17:34 |
ckotil | they seem easier than wobjects | 17:34 |
ckotil | i was creating a wobject and i crashed my wG instance. | 17:34 |
lenthamen | yes, you can include output of external scripts. | 17:34 |
ckotil | i can do this other than using macro or wobject? | 17:35 |
lenthamen | There's a Include(); macro | 17:36 |
lenthamen | but that only includes files | 17:36 |
lenthamen | not the output of an executed script | 17:36 |
lenthamen | wait | 17:36 |
lenthamen | there's a Execute(); macro too | 17:36 |
ckotil | ah. that could be very useful | 17:36 |
lenthamen | ^Execute('/my/script'); | 17:37 |
ckotil | see we have this app router proxy that queries backbone routers. I want to have webgui limit access to the script | 17:37 |
ckotil | oh sweet. that could be too perfect. im gonna try it now. | 17:37 |
lenthamen | be careful with passing through form parameters as that's a big security risk | 17:38 |
lenthamen | You might need to enable the Execute macro | 17:38 |
ckotil | in the webgui.conf? | 17:38 |
lenthamen | yep | 17:38 |
ckotil | k | 17:38 |
lenthamen | what version of webgui do you have? | 17:38 |
ckotil | 7 | 17:39 |
lenthamen | Execute => Execute, | 17:39 |
lenthamen | something like that | 17:39 |
ckotil | i started with 6.9 and i have just been upgrading. keeping backups of past working installs. and ive even tried going out to 7.0.2 but it didnt work properly , the upgrade. but i hear as of 7.0.3 that bug was fixed | 17:40 |
ckotil | ya im familiar with macro entries. | 17:40 |
ckotil | it ran the script but nothing got outputed. | 17:42 |
ckotil | and i got all this garbage | 17:43 |
ckotil | Stopping httpd: [ OK ] | 17:43 |
ckotil | Starting httpd: | 17:43 |
ckotil | Starting WebGUI 7.0.0 | 17:43 |
ckotil | Subroutine new redefined at /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.5/Net/TL1.pm line 17. | 17:43 |
ckotil | Subroutine close redefined at /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.5/Net/TL1.pm line 52. | 17:43 |
ckotil | Subroutine get_hashref redefined at /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.5/Net/TL1.pm line 59. | 17:43 |
ckotil | Subroutine Execute redefined at /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.5/Net/TL1.pm line 76. | 17:43 |
ckotil | Subroutine ParseSimpleOutputLines redefined at /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.5/Net/TL1.pm line 97 | 17:43 |
ckotil | ..... | 17:43 |
ckotil | Loading newt.webgui.conf | 17:43 |
ckotil | WebGUI Started! | 17:43 |
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lenthamen | did you get that messages before ? | 17:44 |
ckotil | no | 17:45 |
ckotil | just now since im using ^Execute('/my/script/index.cgi'); | 17:45 |
ckotil | i wonder, does webgui use these subroutines? | 17:45 |
ckotil | if my app is redefining them, that would screw something up | 17:46 |
lenthamen | I don't think so. | 17:46 |
ckotil | yeah some are pretty obscure. | 17:46 |
lenthamen | Why don't you use the http_proxy to embed the cgi output ? | 17:46 |
ckotil | http_proxy will work for pages that we do not conrtol access to | 17:46 |
ckotil | i know http_proxy will accept a user/pass | 17:47 |
ckotil | but we use a central authentication system | 17:47 |
lenthamen | ok. | 17:47 |
ckotil | which we integrated into wG | 17:47 |
lenthamen | Execute() is very basic | 17:47 |
lenthamen | it only runs the command and send back the output | 17:47 |
ckotil | i wonder why theres no output | 17:48 |
ckotil | now time to try to get this placed into a macro. | 17:49 |
jmorgan | is there an ETA for the next WRE release? | 17:55 |
lenthamen | WebGUI is released every wednesday... | 18:07 |
lenthamen | as long as there are bugs. | 18:07 |
lenthamen | in 7.0. | 18:07 |
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ckotil | ah signed up. | 20:48 |
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Radix-wrk | mornin' :) | 03:23 |
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snapcoun2 | grr | 18:09 |
snapcoun2 | my nick is being mamed | 18:09 |
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ckotil | Is there a way To get a list of links generated by the child assets? | 19:12 |
ckotil | So i have a page layout, with more page layots below. I would like for links to automatically be generated to those pages. | 19:13 |
xdanger | do it with navigation... | 19:15 |
xdanger | set starting point to a page, or do a relative starting point, and include children, with end point /a (+1) | 19:16 |
ckotil | ok | 19:16 |
ckotil | that works. thanks | 19:17 |
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cheecheeo | is there special configuration needed to import wgpkg's? or is it a default feature? | 22:21 |
ckotil | you turn assets into packages which you can then easily replicate throughout your asset tree | 22:30 |
ckotil | when you're editing an asset click on MetaData and its at the bottom | 22:31 |
cheecheeo | right right, but once I download them, and I want to upload to say a diffierent WebGUI instance, is there any special configuration for that feature? | 22:36 |
ckotil | hrm i dunno. | 22:37 |
ckotil | i didnt know you could download assets | 22:37 |
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cheecheeo | well, you can export them | 22:41 |
cheecheeo | packages that is | 22:42 |
ckotil | ah ok | 22:42 |
ckotil | i recall that now | 22:42 |
cheecheeo | okay, I'm having trouble successfully importing those packages into a separate WebGUI instance | 22:46 |
ckotil | you could hack it into the db if you're comfortable enough with it | 22:51 |
ckotil | i hacked the db once when i locked myself out of webgui while implementing a new authentication module | 22:51 |
cheecheeo | I see, so you can't just use import package like you would export a package? | 22:53 |
ckotil | ive never done it. i would think you could | 22:53 |
ckotil | just makes senes. ya know? | 22:54 |
cheecheeo | yeah, whenever I try it says problem with request, contact us, my company, info@mycompany.com blah blah blah | 22:54 |
ckotil | oh boy. ive seen that a few times | 22:55 |
ckotil | usually is stemmed from bad permissions in the www dir | 22:55 |
cheecheeo | mm, i see | 22:55 |
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Radix-wrk | mornin' | 03:59 |
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lenthamen | hello | 15:11 |
lenthamen | Anybody here who knows how the Workflow system works ? | 15:11 |
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lenthamen | Hey Roy | 17:23 |
snapcoun1 | hello | 18:06 |
snapcoun1 | lenthamen: still there? | 18:07 |
lenthamen | roy, do you know how the workflow system works ? | 18:36 |
lenthamen | Gotta go. Check my question here: http://www.plainblack.com/etcetera/workflow-question | 18:38 |
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Jiggie | sup monkeys | 22:03 |
snapcoun1 | haha | 22:16 |
snapcoun1 | stealing is bad | 22:16 |
snapcoun1 | http://www.ex-parrot.com/~pete/upside-down-ternet.html | 22:16 |
snapcoun1 | funny funny | 22:16 |
ckotil | thats awsome | 22:19 |
Jiggie | yep funy as hell | 22:35 |
Jiggie | now i need some help | 22:35 |
Jiggie | WebGUI modules ........................... Not Found. Perhaps you're running this script in the wrong place. | 22:35 |
Jiggie | Cannot continue without WebGUI files. | 22:35 |
Jiggie | how do i fix that | 22:35 |
Jiggie | running from inside /data/WebGui/sbin | 22:35 |
Jiggie | do i need wre? | 22:35 |
Jiggie | this is from 6.2.11 gamma | 22:35 |
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ckotil | Upgraded to 7.0.3 and on pages where i have redirects, I see a 0. | 17:07 |
ckotil | its...odd. | 17:07 |
ckotil | the redirect asset has disappeard | 17:34 |
ckotil | tho the redirects that already existed still work. | 17:34 |
Jiggie | morning monkeys | 19:01 |
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jmorgan | Jiggie: did you fix that "WebGUI modules" error? | 19:36 |
jmorgan | I had the same problem two days ago. I fixed it by going back and making sure all my perl modules were installed | 19:36 |
jmorgan | I ran perl /data/WebGUI/sbin/testEnviornment.pl | 19:37 |
jmorgan | I did a source install btw | 19:37 |
Jiggie | nope | 20:35 |
Jiggie | hummm | 20:35 |
Jiggie | i still get this | 20:35 |
Jiggie | [root@intranet1 sbin]# perl preload.perl | 20:35 |
Jiggie | Can't locate Error.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /data/WebGUI/lib /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.5/i386-linux-thread-multi /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.5 | 20:35 |
Jiggie | and still get this | 20:36 |
Jiggie | WebGUI modules ........................... Not Found. Perhaps you're running this script in the wrong place. | 20:36 |
Jiggie | Cannot continue without WebGUI files. | 20:36 |
Jiggie | i tooket webgui.2.6.11.gamma | 20:36 |
Jiggie | and extracted and did what it said in the instyall docs | 20:37 |
Jiggie | jmorgan how did u check if all the perl modules where installed | 20:37 |
Jiggie | perl testEnvironment.pl says they all OK | 20:38 |
Jiggie | hummm | 21:17 |
Jiggie | anyone around | 21:17 |
Jiggie | people | 21:23 |
Jiggie | please come around | 21:23 |
ckotil | ya | 22:03 |
ckotil | we upgraded perl on the development box today and im installing all the modules again | 22:04 |
ckotil | pain in the A | 22:04 |
ckotil | will wG work with mod_perl2.0 ? | 22:20 |
ckotil | yes. | 22:30 |
jmorgan | Jiggie: well, when I ran testEnviornment.pl, it stopped on some of the modules though I know those where installed. | 22:35 |
jmorgan | so I tried installing them via CPAN & found some dependancies where missing | 22:36 |
jmorgan | once all the dependancies where installed, testEnviornment.pl worked as expected | 22:36 |
jmorgan | I'm not sure how to check that all the modules are installed (I'm a perl newbie) but my guess is that is your issue | 22:37 |
jmorgan | Which OS are you installin on? | 22:38 |
ckotil | im on RHEL AS4 | 22:47 |
ckotil | ugh. | 22:47 |
ckotil | FREE ERROR BIND!FREE ERROR FBIND!DBI::db=HASH(0x9a58264)->disconnect invalidates 1 active statement handle (either destroy statement handles or call finish on them before disconnecting) at ../lib/WebGUI/SQL.pm line 394. | 22:47 |
ckotil | i got that nasty error after upgrading perl | 22:48 |
ckotil | and reinstalling all the modules | 22:48 |
ckotil | i get that when starting spectre | 22:48 |
jmorgan | I was using WRE-0.7.1 but upgraded WebGUI-7.0.0 to 7.0.2 but spectre wouldn't start due to a new perl module in 7.0.2 | 22:51 |
jmorgan | so now I'm doing a source install to see if that fixes it | 22:52 |
snapcoun1 | jmorgan: that won't fix it | 23:00 |
snapcoun1 | JT fixed a spectre bug in 7.0.3 that requires use of a new CPAN module | 23:00 |
snapcoun1 | and we haven't put out a WRE release that includes it yet | 23:01 |
snapcoun1 | you need to do this to fix it | 23:03 |
snapcoun1 | . /data/wre/sbin/setenvironment | 23:04 |
snapcoun1 | which perl | 23:04 |
snapcoun1 | verify that says you're using the perl at /data/wre/prereqs/perl/bin/perl | 23:04 |
snapcoun1 | then type this | 23:04 |
snapcoun1 | perl -MCPAN -e shell | 23:04 |
snapcoun1 | install POE::Component::Client::HTTP | 23:04 |
snapcoun1 | that will install the needed module and all missing deps | 23:04 |
snapcoun1 | I just released a new WRE for debian that includes this module if you're running debian | 23:05 |
jmorgan | I'm using CentOS4.3 | 23:10 |
jmorgan | I'd see why a source install won't fix my issue? | 23:10 |
snapcoun1 | because the source distro of the wre doesn't include the missing module | 23:10 |
snapcoun1 | you can install it yourself though | 23:10 |
snapcoun1 | just trying to save you the hours of compile time =) | 23:11 |
jmorgan | I mean a source install of WebGUI not WRE | 23:11 |
snapcoun1 | oh | 23:11 |
jmorgan | so If I install that module via CPAN that will fix my WRE upgrade problem? | 23:12 |
snapcoun1 | yes | 23:28 |
snapcoun1 | the one where spectre fails to start? | 23:28 |
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jmorgan | ok, I'm giving it a shop now | 23:31 |
jmorgan | are you going to the WUC? | 23:31 |
jmorgan | I am.. I'm looking forward to the WRE sessions as I'd like to learn more about it | 23:32 |
snapcoun1 | I'll be the speaker for that session actually =) | 23:32 |
snapcoun1 | but it makes me happy to know that at least one person will be there so I'm not talking to myself... lol | 23:33 |
jmorgan | ah, your Roy? | 23:34 |
snapcoun1 | yeah | 23:34 |
snapcoun1 | guilty as charged | 23:34 |
snapcoun1 | I lurk and hide | 23:34 |
jmorgan | how do I get involved with WRE development? | 23:34 |
jmorgan | Colin mentioned your name a few times | 23:35 |
snapcoun1 | how would you like to be involved? | 23:35 |
snapcoun1 | are you a bash scripter or perl programmer? | 23:36 |
snapcoun1 | doc writer | 23:36 |
snapcoun1 | tester | 23:36 |
jmorgan | i'm a perl newbie but i'm good at testing/breaking, documentation & user support | 23:37 |
jmorgan | i'm a sys admin mostly | 23:38 |
snapcoun1 | sweet | 23:39 |
snapcoun1 | then you just got involved! | 23:39 |
snapcoun1 | easy huh? | 23:39 |
snapcoun1 | if you want to improve the documentation, come up with gotchas, etc. do so | 23:40 |
snapcoun1 | then email them to me | 23:40 |
snapcoun1 | roy@plainblack.com | 23:40 |
snapcoun1 | We'll review them for accuracy and if it's better than what we have | 23:40 |
snapcoun1 | we'll put it in the core and give you credit for it | 23:40 |
snapcoun1 | you can also report bugs you find to plainblack.com/bugs | 23:41 |
snapcoun1 | if you submit a fix with the bug you find, you get credit for that too | 23:41 |
snapcoun1 | the WRE is written for sysadmins, so your perspective and feedback is also a good thing | 23:42 |
jmorgan | I already found one.. the install.txt has this line /addsite --admin-db-pass=YOURPASSWORD --sitename=www.example.com | 23:44 |
jmorgan | you need --sitename=www.example.com before --admin-db-pass=YOURPASSWORD | 23:44 |
jmorgan | othrwise you get an error | 23:44 |
jmorgan | I'll email you when I find others & I'm sure we'll have a chance to chat more at WUC | 23:45 |
Jiggie | jmorgan | 23:46 |
Jiggie | or snapcoun1 | 23:46 |
Jiggie | are you uys around | 23:46 |
Jiggie | jmorgan .. | 23:47 |
jmorgan | yeah, i'm still here | 23:47 |
snapcoun1 | eh? | 23:50 |
snapcoun1 | jmorgan: that's interesting | 23:51 |
snapcoun1 | well, that kind of stuff helps a lot | 23:51 |
snapcoun1 | see the problem is this | 23:51 |
snapcoun1 | JT and I think a lot alike | 23:51 |
Jiggie | lots of stuff like that | 23:51 |
snapcoun1 | and we wrote the WRE | 23:51 |
Jiggie | maybe a newb guide | 23:52 |
Jiggie | webgui for dummies | 23:52 |
snapcoun1 | so, that's two admins out of the entire wg community | 23:52 |
snapcoun1 | things that are obvious to us may not be to most sysadmins | 23:52 |
snapcoun1 | b/c we think alike | 23:52 |
Jiggie | like me | 23:52 |
Jiggie | i got the wre and i'm using RH ES4 | 23:53 |
Jiggie | missing s shitload of modules | 23:53 |
jmorgan | i was a gentoo dev for a year so the whole compiled/optimized is interesting | 23:53 |
Jiggie | and in windoz it works like a charm | 23:53 |
snapcoun1 | the docs are coming | 23:53 |
snapcoun1 | I know you're tired of hearing that I'm sure | 23:53 |
Jiggie | can you guys release it with perl....like a way to check for perl modules and how to install them using other than cpan | 23:54 |
Jiggie | docs lack lots of stuff | 23:54 |
snapcoun1 | release what with perl? | 23:54 |
Jiggie | like this ones | 23:54 |
Jiggie | http://www.plainblack.com/downloads/builds/6.2.11-gamma/WebGUI/docs/install.txt | 23:54 |
Jiggie | is that missing something | 23:54 |
Jiggie | cause if you follow the steps it does not work | 23:55 |
Jiggie | webgui | 23:55 |
Jiggie | webgui with the entire perl modules | 23:55 |
Jiggie | i have spent days trying to get every module | 23:55 |
Jiggie | even when the wre is used | 23:55 |
snapcoun1 | well, the wre normally has everything | 23:55 |
snapcoun1 | it's just missing one module now b/c of an emergency bug fix for spectre | 23:56 |
snapcoun1 | why are you using 6.2.11 btw? | 23:56 |
snapcoun1 | that release has alot of issues | 23:56 |
snapcoun1 | especially with navigation/page tree corruption | 23:56 |
jmorgan | so when is the next WRE coming out ;-) | 23:56 |
snapcoun1 | I'm going to try and have it out next week | 23:57 |
snapcoun1 | I'm adding some features to make install better | 23:57 |
Jiggie | like this.........5. Extract WebGUI into your webroot. | 23:57 |
Jiggie | is that onto the apache root for my sites..... | 23:57 |
Jiggie | intranet is 6.2.11 | 23:57 |
Jiggie | and will upgrade to 7 | 23:57 |
snapcoun1 | oh I see | 23:57 |
Jiggie | but want to transfer it to another box with more memory | 23:57 |
Jiggie | i can help make it dunny proof | 23:58 |
Jiggie | :) | 23:58 |
snapcoun1 | I get it | 23:58 |
Jiggie | be simple even if it sounds redundant to you.. | 23:58 |
Jiggie | because not all distros are the same | 23:58 |
Jiggie | i'm running RH es4 with all the updates | 23:58 |
Jiggie | then i followed the instructions on the plainblack documentation..now i realize that it does not apply to 6.2.11 | 23:59 |
snapcoun1 | well, I recommend using the wre ver 0.6, adding a site with addsite, then migrating the site over | 23:59 |
Jiggie | so crythias send me a how to on a post i made | 23:59 |
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Jiggie | dont now how to do that | 00:00 |
Jiggie | cant even get this site up yet | 00:00 |
Jiggie | help me with 6.2.11, at least to make it work | 00:00 |
Jiggie | i want to understand it more so i can help and not be a burden here | 00:00 |
snapcoun1 | ok I'll try | 00:00 |
Jiggie | ok i did this | 00:00 |
Jiggie | https://www.plainblack.com/etcetera/is-there-a-wre-for-12.2.11/1#x_1ZBegZfXxD5SrFb9wIjQ | 00:00 |
Jiggie | step 3. edit the preload to mach where i extracted webgui which is /data/Webgui | 00:02 |
Jiggie | step 4 done' | 00:03 |
Jiggie | step 5 copied WebGUI.conf.original to WebGUI.conf | 00:03 |
snapcoun1 | ok, is testEnvironment still giving you errors? | 00:04 |
Jiggie | and changed the user name and pass and | 00:04 |
Jiggie | sitename = intranet1.invisioninc.com, intranet1 | 00:04 |
Jiggie | dsn = DBI:mysql:intranet1.invisioninc.com | 00:04 |
Jiggie | does that sound correct | 00:04 |
snapcoun1 | so far you sound like you're on the right track | 00:05 |
Jiggie | test give me the error | 00:05 |
Jiggie | Image::Magick module (optional) .......... OK | 00:05 |
Jiggie | Authen::Smb module (optional) ............ OK | 00:05 |
Jiggie | WebGUI modules ........................... Not Found. Perhaps you're running thi | 00:05 |
Jiggie | s script in the wrong place. | 00:05 |
Jiggie | Cannot continue without WebGUI files. | 00:05 |
jmorgan | yes, it's looping on POE::Kernel... but I'm trying again | 00:05 |
Jiggie | where am i supposed to have webgui extarcted to? | 00:05 |
jmorgan | on /data | 00:06 |
Jiggie | yes | 00:06 |
Jiggie | then i run preload | 00:06 |
Jiggie | [root@intranet1 sbin]# perl preload.perl | 00:06 |
Jiggie | Can't locate Error.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /data/WebGUI/lib /usr/lib/perl5/5. | 00:06 |
Jiggie | 8.5/i386-linux-thread-multi /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.5 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.5/ | 00:06 |
Jiggie | i386-linux-thread-multi /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.4/i386-linux-thread-multi / | 00:06 |
Jiggie | usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.3/i386-linux-thread-multi /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5 | 00:06 |
Jiggie | .8.2/i386-linux-thread-multi /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.1/i386-linux-thread-mu | 00:06 |
Jiggie | lti /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.0/i386-linux-thread-multi /usr/lib/perl5/site_p | 00:06 |
Jiggie | [root@intranet1 sbin]# perl preload.perl | 00:06 |
Jiggie | so i'm stuck | 00:06 |
jmorgan | do you have error.pm installed? | 00:07 |
Jiggie | how do i check? | 00:07 |
Jiggie | is that part of perl? | 00:07 |
jmorgan | when I have this problem, I google the error mesage as I'm a perl newbie | 00:07 |
jmorgan | then I find out that I'm missing some perl module | 00:08 |
jmorgan | once said perl module is installed, it works fine | 00:08 |
Jiggie | i did | 00:08 |
Jiggie | but dont know which perl module | 00:08 |
Jiggie | now doing install Bundle::CPAN | 00:08 |
Jiggie | to see and get some errors | 00:09 |
jmorgan | good idea | 00:09 |
Jiggie | thats what i mean to have webgui check and fetch the file sfor a site you guys have, cause cpan really sucks pupu | 00:09 |
snapcoun1 | lol | 00:09 |
Jiggie | any ideas | 00:09 |
snapcoun1 | well, this is the idea behind wre. it contains every cpan module needed for webgui | 00:10 |
Jiggie | and do i need wre to run 6.2.11 | 00:10 |
snapcoun1 | no | 00:10 |
Jiggie | wre is not 100% | 00:10 |
jmorgan | ok, my install POE::Component::Client::HTTP is looping | 00:10 |
snapcoun1 | it's looping? | 00:10 |
Jiggie | it still needs some stuff | 00:10 |
Jiggie | System call "/usr/bin/wget -O - "ftp://ftp.perl.org/pub/CPAN/authors/id/A/AN/ANDK/Bundle-CPAN-1.852.tar.gz" > /root/.cpan/sources/authors/id/A/AN/ANDK/Bundle-CPAN-1.852.tar" | 00:10 |
Jiggie | returned status 1 (wstat 256) | 00:10 |
Jiggie | Warning: expected file [/root/.cpan/sources/authors/id/A/AN/ANDK/Bundle-CPAN-1.852.tar.gz] doesn't exist | 00:10 |
Jiggie | Issuing "/usr/kerberos/bin/ftp -n" | 00:10 |
Jiggie | ftp: ftp.perl.org: unknown host | 00:10 |
Jiggie | Not connected. | 00:10 |
Jiggie | Local directory now /root/.cpan/sources/authors/id/A/AN/ANDK | 00:10 |
Jiggie | Not connected. | 00:10 |
snapcoun1 | oh oh oh | 00:10 |
Jiggie | Not connected. | 00:10 |
snapcoun1 | wrong perl | 00:10 |
Jiggie | Not connected. | 00:10 |
Jiggie | Not connected. | 00:10 |
Jiggie | Not connected. | 00:11 |
Jiggie | Not connected. | 00:11 |
snapcoun1 | wait | 00:11 |
Jiggie | Not connected. | 00:11 |
Jiggie | Not connected. | 00:11 |
Jiggie | Not connected. | 00:11 |
* snapcoun1 is getting confused | 00:11 | |
Jiggie | Not connected. | 00:11 |
Jiggie | Bad luck... Still failed! | 00:11 |
Jiggie | Can't access URL ftp://ftp.perl.org/pub/CPAN/authors/id/A/AN/ANDK/Bundle-CPAN-1.852.tar.gz. | 00:11 |
Jiggie | sucks | 00:11 |
snapcoun1 | inside cpan | 00:11 |
Jiggie | yep | 00:11 |
snapcoun1 | type | 00:11 |
snapcoun1 | o conf init | 00:11 |
snapcoun1 | and select different mirrors | 00:11 |
Jiggie | what does that do | 00:11 |
snapcoun1 | reconfigures cpan | 00:11 |
jmorgan | i'm seeing a fixed number of errors repeating... for example, POE::Kernel::_dispatch_event('POE::Kernel=ARRAY(0x846d954)', 'POE::Session=ARRAY(0x89db074)', 'POE::Session=ARRAY(0x89db074)', '_signal', 16, 'ARRAY(0x8a28640)', '/data/wre/prereqs/perl/lib/site_perl/5.8.8/POE/Kernel.pm', 1020, 'undef', ...) called at /data/wre/prereqs/perl/lib/site_perl/5.8.8/POE/Kernel.pm line 1003 | 00:12 |
snapcoun1 | let's you pick different places to download from | 00:12 |
Jiggie | /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.5/CPAN/Config.pm initialized. | 00:12 |
Jiggie | Are you ready for manual configuration? [yes] | 00:12 |
Jiggie | yes or no? | 00:12 |
snapcoun1 | yes | 00:12 |
snapcoun1 | just stick with the defaults | 00:12 |
Jiggie | hall we use it as the general CPAN build and cache directory? | 00:12 |
Jiggie | CPAN build and cache directory? [/root/.cpan] | 00:12 |
Jiggie | so thats a yes | 00:12 |
snapcoun1 | yep | 00:13 |
snapcoun1 | just go with the defaults if you're unsure | 00:13 |
snapcoun1 | you'll be fine | 00:13 |
Jiggie | Where is your ncftpget program? [] | 00:14 |
Jiggie | ???? | 00:14 |
jmorgan | you don't have it & don't need it | 00:14 |
Jiggie | ok fetching stuff | 00:15 |
Jiggie | i really appreciate this | 00:15 |
Jiggie | if ya lived in the east coast, would have gotten ya some beer | 00:17 |
Jiggie | Trying with "/usr/bin/links -source" to get | 00:19 |
Jiggie | ftp://ftp.perl.org/pub/CPAN/MIRRORED.BY.gz | 00:19 |
Jiggie | ERROR at dump.c:188: Host not found | 00:19 |
Jiggie | Trying with "/usr/bin/wget -O -" to get | 00:19 |
Jiggie | ftp://ftp.perl.org/pub/CPAN/MIRRORED.BY | 00:19 |
Jiggie | --17:15:17-- ftp://ftp.perl.org/pub/CPAN/MIRRORED.BY | 00:19 |
Jiggie | Resolving ftp.perl.org... failed: Temporary failure in name resolution. | 00:20 |
Jiggie | Trying with "/usr/bin/wget -O -" to get | 00:20 |
Jiggie | ftp://ftp.perl.org/pub/CPAN/MIRRORED.BY.gz | 00:20 |
Jiggie | --17:15:57-- ftp://ftp.perl.org/pub/CPAN/MIRRORED.BY.gz | 00:20 |
Jiggie | => `-' | 00:20 |
Jiggie | Resolving ftp.perl.org... failed: Temporary failure in name resolution. | 00:20 |
Jiggie | Issuing "/usr/kerberos/bin/ftp -n" | 00:20 |
Jiggie | ftp: ftp.perl.org: unknown host | 00:20 |
Jiggie | Not connected. | 00:20 |
Jiggie | Local directory now /data/WebGUI/sbin/yes/sources | 00:20 |
Jiggie | Not connected. | 00:20 |
Jiggie | Not connected. | 00:20 |
Jiggie | Not connected. | 00:20 |
Jiggie | Not connected. | 00:20 |
Jiggie | Not connected. | 00:20 |
Jiggie | Bad luck... Still failed! | 00:20 |
Jiggie | Can't access URL ftp://ftp.perl.org/pub/CPAN/MIRRORED.BY. | 00:20 |
Jiggie | Please check, if the URLs I found in your configuration file () are valid. | 00:20 |
Jiggie | The urllist can be edited. E.g. with 'o conf urllist push ftp://myurl/' | 00:20 |
Jiggie | Could not fetch MIRRORED.BY | 00:20 |
Jiggie | CPAN.pm needs at least one URL where it can fetch CPAN files from. | 00:20 |
snapcoun1 | hmm | 00:22 |
snapcoun1 | exit cpan | 00:22 |
snapcoun1 | and try this | 00:22 |
snapcoun1 | ping www.google.com | 00:22 |
Jiggie | i can go online | 00:23 |
snapcoun1 | well, maybe for port 80 | 00:23 |
snapcoun1 | what about ftp | 00:23 |
Jiggie | ING www.l.google.com (64.233.161.104) 56(84) bytes of data. | 00:23 |
Jiggie | 64 bytes from 64.233.161.104: icmp_seq=0 ttl=246 time=52.6 ms | 00:23 |
snapcoun1 | ftp upload.sf.net | 00:23 |
Jiggie | ping that | 00:23 |
snapcoun1 | no type it | 00:23 |
Jiggie | or use that on cpan | 00:23 |
snapcoun1 | at the command prompt type | 00:24 |
snapcoun1 | ftp upload.sf.net | 00:24 |
Jiggie | KERBEROS_V4 rejected as an authentication type | 00:24 |
Jiggie | Name (upload.sf.net:root): | 00:24 |
Jiggie | it works | 00:24 |
snapcoun1 | k | 00:24 |
snapcoun1 | cpan must be screwing up | 00:24 |
Jiggie | i should look fior a cpan mirror? | 00:24 |
snapcoun1 | well, that's what it's doing | 00:24 |
snapcoun1 | it's trying to download the list of mirrors | 00:25 |
snapcoun1 | and can't get to the lisst | 00:25 |
snapcoun1 | try again in an hour or so... you can't go any farther without a working cpan | 00:25 |
Jiggie | ok | 00:26 |
snapcoun1 | I don't know if I'll be on then, but I'll be on this weekend probably | 00:26 |
Jiggie | so i have to do this again | 00:26 |
Jiggie | o conf init | 00:26 |
snapcoun1 | and definitely on monday | 00:26 |
Jiggie | monday | 00:26 |
snapcoun1 | yeah... afaik | 00:26 |
snapcoun1 | there may be a way to just change your mirrors | 00:26 |
snapcoun1 | but I don't know how | 00:26 |
snapcoun1 | only takes a few mins though | 00:27 |
Jiggie | You can add it to your /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.5/CPAN/Config.pm | 00:29 |
jmorgan | where in the admin console can I check which version of webgui I have | 00:29 |
jmorgan | ah, found it ... statistics | 00:30 |
snapcoun1 | or you can look at the top of /data/WebGUI/lib/WebGUI.pm | 00:30 |
snapcoun1 | fyi | 00:30 |
snapcoun1 | can be handy if a site is down and you have no idea what you're working with | 00:30 |
jmorgan | ok, thanks | 00:31 |
Jiggie | ok | 00:32 |
snapcoun1 | alright guys I'm outta here | 00:33 |
snapcoun1 | good luck and I'll be around next week | 00:33 |
snapcoun1 | if I'm not slammed I'll try to help you out | 00:33 |
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jmorgan | yeah... Fri Jul 28 14:33:06 2006 - All is well with the Spectre server | 00:33 |
jmorgan | bye | 00:33 |
Jiggie | adios | 00:33 |
Jiggie | c ya monday then | 00:33 |
Jiggie | i'll be here early | 00:36 |
Jiggie | out | 00:45 |
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+perlDreamer | hey, dude | 05:18 |
+perlDreamer | how hackest thou, today? | 05:19 |
+perlDreamer | snapcoun1: good evening | 05:24 |
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snapcoun1 | grr | 07:33 |
snapcoun1 | never hear anything when I'm playing WoW | 07:33 |
Radix_ | heh | 07:34 |
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Radix-wrk | mornin' | 05:29 |
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Jiggie | ddd | 16:54 |
Jiggie | yooo | 16:54 |
Jiggie | i'm back to bother you guys | 16:54 |
Jiggie | jmorgan | 16:55 |
Jiggie | crythias | 16:59 |
Jiggie | wake up people | 16:59 |
Jiggie | .. | 18:57 |
Radix_ | but I'm tired and going to sleep :P | 19:09 |
Jiggie | its 2 oclock | 20:44 |
Jiggie | sleep | 20:44 |
Jiggie | boo | 22:17 |
Jiggie | building wre | 23:17 |
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