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| +perlDreamer | snapcoun1: ping | 06:36 |
| +perlDreamer | hey! where's WRE? | 06:36 |
| +perlDreamer | you leave the channel for a few weeks and everything goes haywire | 06:37 |
| +perlDreamer | snapoun1: paging all Floridians | 06:41 |
| snapcoun1 | greetings and salutations | 06:46 |
| +perlDreamer | yo, dude! | 06:46 |
| snapcoun1 | how goes it | 06:46 |
| +perlDreamer | it is okay | 06:46 |
| +perlDreamer | I've been fixing bugs | 06:46 |
| +perlDreamer | and I was wondering if you were at all familiar with the survey code? | 06:46 |
| snapcoun1 | yeah a little | 06:47 |
| snapcoun1 | but I haven't looked at in quite a while | 06:47 |
| snapcoun1 | I added the section feature to it | 06:47 |
| +perlDreamer | then you're the man I need! | 06:48 |
| snapcoun1 | heh | 06:48 |
| +perlDreamer | in the technical sense | 06:48 |
| snapcoun1 | uh oh | 06:48 |
| +perlDreamer | could you do an update and have a gander at the duplicate method, please? | 06:48 |
| snapcoun1 | sure | 06:48 |
| +perlDreamer | do you have it? | 06:50 |
| snapcoun1 | what am I looking for | 06:51 |
| +perlDreamer | sub duplicate | 06:51 |
| snapcoun1 | ok | 06:52 |
| snapcoun1 | now what | 06:52 |
| +perlDreamer | line 167 | 06:52 |
| +perlDreamer | is that the correct key for that collateral? | 06:52 |
| +perlDreamer | let me back up and fill you in | 06:53 |
| +perlDreamer | Survey's wouldn't copy | 06:53 |
| +perlDreamer | so I fixed the first bug and then got a new one | 06:53 |
| +perlDreamer | involving that line | 06:54 |
| +perlDreamer | it used to set the collateral in Survey_response | 06:54 |
| snapcoun1 | uhh | 06:54 |
| +perlDreamer | and when the setCollateral was executed it would complain that there was no comment column in that table | 06:54 |
| snapcoun1 | I don't think you can use setCollateral for this table | 06:54 |
| +perlDreamer | so I tracked down which table it should be and fixed it | 06:54 |
| +perlDreamer | so now it copies | 06:55 |
| +perlDreamer | but I'm a little worred that the key might be wrong | 06:55 |
| +perlDreamer | so I thought I'd ask an expert | 06:55 |
| snapcoun1 | it's a complex key | 06:55 |
| snapcoun1 | three columns make the record unique | 06:55 |
| snapcoun1 | I'm not sure if setCollateral can handle complex keys | 06:56 |
| snapcoun1 | well, I guess it can | 06:56 |
| +perlDreamer | Do you read SciFi? | 06:56 |
| snapcoun1 | you just tell setCollateral the key you want an id autogenerated for | 06:56 |
| snapcoun1 | but you have to make sure you set the other two also | 06:56 |
| snapcoun1 | no not really | 06:57 |
| snapcoun1 | I stayed at a Holiday Inn Express once though | 06:57 |
| +perlDreamer | ++$snapcount | 06:57 |
| +perlDreamer | The copy seems to work, but like I said, I wanted a second set of eyes | 06:58 |
| snapcoun1 | yeah | 06:58 |
| snapcoun1 | it looks right | 06:58 |
| +perlDreamer | cool, thanks | 06:58 |
| snapcoun1 | all the keyfields are being set | 06:59 |
| +perlDreamer | do you have time for another question? | 06:59 |
| snapcoun1 | sure | 06:59 |
| +perlDreamer | ever build the WRE on a 64-bit machine? | 06:59 |
| snapcoun1 | nope | 06:59 |
| snapcoun1 | shouldn't be a problem though | 07:00 |
| +perlDreamer | perl won't compile | 07:00 |
| snapcoun1 | what's the error | 07:00 |
| +perlDreamer | hang on a sec while I paste | 07:00 |
| +perlDreamer | /data/wre/prereqs/perl/lib/5.8.7/x86_64-linux/auto/DynaLoader/DynaLoader.a(DynaLoader.o): relocation R_X86_64_32 against `a local symbol' can not be used when making a shared object; recompile with -fPIC | 07:03 |
| +perlDreamer | /data/wre/prereqs/perl/lib/5.8.7/x86_64-linux/auto/DynaLoader/DynaLoader.a: could not read symbols: Bad value | 07:03 |
| +perlDreamer | collect2: ld returned 1 exit status | 07:03 |
| +perlDreamer | make[1]: *** [mod_perl.so] Error 1 | 07:03 |
| +perlDreamer | make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/src/wrebuild/source/apache/mod_perl-2.0.2/src/modules/perl' | 07:03 |
| +perlDreamer | make: *** [modperl_lib] Error 2 | 07:03 |
| +perlDreamer | WRE ERROR: mod_perl make did not complete successfully. | 07:03 |
| snapcoun1 | did you try doing what it says? | 07:04 |
| snapcoun1 | recompile with -fPIC | 07:04 |
| +perlDreamer | no | 07:04 |
| snapcoun1 | I'm not sure but I think that's a gcc flag | 07:04 |
| snapcoun1 | so you'll have to edit build.sh | 07:05 |
| snapcoun1 | and add it as a compile flag | 07:05 |
| snapcoun1 | let me look at it real quick so I can be more specific | 07:05 |
| +perlDreamer | okay | 07:05 |
| +perlDreamer | does build.sh supercede package specific build scripts, or just drive them? | 07:05 |
| snapcoun1 | it's just a big wrapper | 07:07 |
| snapcoun1 | it calls all the individual configures, and makes | 07:07 |
| snapcoun1 | in the correct order | 07:07 |
| snapcoun1 | nothing magical | 07:07 |
| +perlDreamer | so I should figure out how to pass PIC to perl and then add _that_ to the build.sh | 07:07 |
| snapcoun1 | yeah | 07:08 |
| +perlDreamer | cool | 07:08 |
| snapcoun1 | it will probably be something like | 07:08 |
| snapcoun1 | CC=gcc CFLAGS=fPIC ./Configure --blah | 07:08 |
| snapcoun1 | but ./Configure --help | 07:08 |
| snapcoun1 | should tell you | 07:08 |
| snapcoun1 | then just edit that line in build.sh that call ./Configure in the buildPerl sub | 07:09 |
| +perlDreamer | okay | 07:09 |
| +perlDreamer | thanks! | 07:09 |
| snapcoun1 | sure thing | 07:09 |
| +perlDreamer | question 3? | 07:09 |
| snapcoun1 | hopefully that will fix it | 07:09 |
| snapcoun1 | why not | 07:09 |
| +perlDreamer | uh, well it's late in Florida | 07:09 |
| +perlDreamer | you probably have many other things to do | 07:09 |
| snapcoun1 | no biggie | 07:10 |
| +perlDreamer | back to Survey.pm | 07:10 |
| snapcoun1 | ok | 07:10 |
| +perlDreamer | editSection | 07:10 |
| +perlDreamer | if ($section->{sectionName} =~ /$none/) { | 07:10 |
| +perlDreamer | return $self->session->privilege->vitalComponent; | 07:10 |
| +perlDreamer | } | 07:10 |
| +perlDreamer | that will prevent anything containing the word Security from ever being re-edited. | 07:10 |
| +perlDreamer | should that be a string comparison instead of regexp match? | 07:10 |
| snapcoun1 | the purpose of that | 07:11 |
| snapcoun1 | (may not be what it's doing) | 07:11 |
| snapcoun1 | is to ensure that there is always one section (at least) for every survey | 07:12 |
| snapcoun1 | it's called "none" | 07:12 |
| snapcoun1 | i18n'ed | 07:12 |
| snapcoun1 | this block | 07:12 |
| snapcoun1 | is to prevent people from modifying the section called "none" | 07:12 |
| +perlDreamer | with the regexp, it will match anywhere in the string because it's not anchored | 07:13 |
| snapcoun1 | oh | 07:13 |
| snapcoun1 | I'm not very good with PCRE | 07:13 |
| snapcoun1 | that's all it's supposed to do so if you can make the regex better | 07:13 |
| snapcoun1 | go for it | 07:14 |
| snapcoun1 | it's just to protect the section called "none" | 07:14 |
| snapcoun1 | remember it's i18n though | 07:14 |
| snapcoun1 | so it may be called "hooflamaba' | 07:14 |
| snapcoun1 | in leet or something | 07:14 |
| +perlDreamer | every Survey has a unique section called "none"? | 07:14 |
| snapcoun1 | yes | 07:14 |
| snapcoun1 | it's created by processPropertiesFromFormPost | 07:15 |
| +perlDreamer | so if I have two content managers with different languages, then one of them will be able to edit "none" since their language's none won't match the language of the guy who created the Survey? | 07:15 |
| snapcoun1 | I guess you're right | 07:16 |
| snapcoun1 | yeah | 07:17 |
| +perlDreamer | I think the only safe way is to do it via id's | 07:17 |
| +perlDreamer | but that means storing the id somewhere... | 07:17 |
| snapcoun1 | but having a section named jghg_89485jfjed isn't very user friendly | 07:17 |
| +perlDreamer | it can be named anything | 07:17 |
| snapcoun1 | I suppose you're right | 07:18 |
| +perlDreamer | but the assetId of the section created by pPFFP shouldn't be allowed to be edited | 07:18 |
| snapcoun1 | I can't imagine this is a very likely to happen though | 07:18 |
| snapcoun1 | but that would be better | 07:18 |
| snapcoun1 | when I wrote it I assumed the site would use one language | 07:19 |
| +perlDreamer | well, I can't figure out how to do it anyway | 07:19 |
| * snapcoun1 slaps hand | 07:19 | |
| +perlDreamer | since there's no way to lookup the section by name | 07:19 |
| snapcoun1 | now that I think about it | 07:19 |
| snapcoun1 | I think I tried to do it the way you're describing | 07:20 |
| snapcoun1 | but couldn't figure something out | 07:20 |
| snapcoun1 | don't remember what though =) | 07:20 |
| snapcoun1 | it was a while ago when I did this | 07:20 |
| +perlDreamer | I see four options: | 07:20 |
| snapcoun1 | wow | 07:21 |
| +perlDreamer | 1) store the assetId of that section in the asset | 07:21 |
| +perlDreamer | 2) add a column which says whether or not the section can be edited | 07:21 |
| +perlDreamer | 3) Post a bug and let JT fix it :) | 07:21 |
| snapcoun1 | actually I have to fix bugs tomorrow so... yeah | 07:22 |
| +perlDreamer | 4) Post a bug and let Roy fix it | 07:22 |
| snapcoun1 | doh! | 07:22 |
| +perlDreamer | I think the column would be the most robust | 07:22 |
| snapcoun1 | I think it would be the easiest | 07:24 |
| +perlDreamer | I'll post the bug | 07:24 |
| +perlDreamer | I could use the karma | 07:24 |
| snapcoun1 | lol | 07:24 |
| snapcoun1 | vote for my commerce feature | 07:24 |
| snapcoun1 | =P | 07:24 |
| snapcoun1 | kinda silly actually... I think it's going in no matter what lol | 07:25 |
| snapcoun1 | but it was fun to spend all my karma on it | 07:25 |
| snapcoun1 | kind of like splurging at Best Buy or something | 07:25 |
| +perlDreamer | it's a good idea | 07:25 |
| +perlDreamer | WebGUI for mp3/video shopping | 07:25 |
| snapcoun1 | pdf books | 07:26 |
| +perlDreamer | but it must be ranked pretty hard since the karma ranking is only 3.7 | 07:26 |
| snapcoun1 | pictures (hehe, long live pron) | 07:26 |
| +perlDreamer | how much karma do you have? | 07:26 |
| +perlDreamer | did you have? | 07:26 |
| snapcoun1 | 130 something | 07:26 |
| +perlDreamer | 130/3.7 | 07:26 |
| +perlDreamer | hmmm | 07:26 |
| snapcoun1 | I ranked it as 35 hours | 07:26 |
| snapcoun1 | so it's weighted heavy | 07:26 |
| snapcoun1 | but, that number is a SWAG | 07:27 |
| snapcoun1 | with all the Commerce changes, it could be 10 hours | 07:27 |
| snapcoun1 | but should be no more than 35 worst case | 07:27 |
| snapcoun1 | I just wrote something for BNT that's very similar (minus the commerce part) | 07:27 |
| +perlDreamer | cool | 07:28 |
| +perlDreamer | I've been working on the new variable section in the help | 07:28 |
| +perlDreamer | Did JT tell you about it? | 07:28 |
| snapcoun1 | no | 07:29 |
| snapcoun1 | what is it? | 07:29 |
| +perlDreamer | lots of people have talked about a template variable editor for wG | 07:29 |
| +perlDreamer | but there's 1 fundamental thing stopping it | 07:29 |
| +perlDreamer | there's no way to programmatically get which variables are available in a given template | 07:29 |
| snapcoun1 | the code? | 07:29 |
| snapcoun1 | oh | 07:29 |
| +perlDreamer | so JT and I schemed, and came with this idea | 07:30 |
| snapcoun1 | yeah... most people use $var but there is no requirement to do so | 07:30 |
| +perlDreamer | template variables will be documented in the Help, like fields are | 07:30 |
| +perlDreamer | and Help now has inheritance so that you can inherit other variables, fields or related items from other help entries | 07:30 |
| snapcoun1 | nice | 07:31 |
| +perlDreamer | so to get the set of template variables for a template, grab it's help and take the variables key in the hash | 07:31 |
| +perlDreamer | and voila | 07:31 |
| snapcoun1 | that's slick | 07:31 |
| snapcoun1 | did you notice that JT added autoGenerateForms to the Asset class? | 07:32 |
| +perlDreamer | no! | 07:32 |
| +perlDreamer | really? | 07:32 |
| snapcoun1 | yep | 07:32 |
| +perlDreamer | sweet | 07:32 |
| snapcoun1 | I pestered | 07:32 |
| +perlDreamer | Matt and I talked about doing that for a while | 07:32 |
| +perlDreamer | but never got around to doing it | 07:32 |
| +perlDreamer | it's good juju to have in the core | 07:32 |
| snapcoun1 | I tried to use it in my Paypal asset to learn it wasn't there | 07:33 |
| snapcoun1 | and I was like, "why isn't this here" | 07:33 |
| +perlDreamer | Paypal asset? not commerce plug-in? | 07:33 |
| snapcoun1 | yeah | 07:33 |
| snapcoun1 | I'm not sure I'm going to release it | 07:33 |
| snapcoun1 | I have the paypal stuff working | 07:33 |
| snapcoun1 | but I don't know | 07:33 |
| snapcoun1 | I don't like it | 07:33 |
| +perlDreamer | I've seen it mentioned on the boards | 07:34 |
| snapcoun1 | what's that? | 07:34 |
| +perlDreamer | brb | 07:35 |
| +perlDreamer | back | 07:37 |
| +perlDreamer | I thought I saw someone mention paypal in the Commerce | 07:38 |
| snapcoun1 | what? | 07:39 |
| snapcoun1 | in the Commerce? | 07:39 |
| +perlDreamer | yeah | 07:39 |
| snapcoun1 | what does that mean | 07:39 |
| snapcoun1 | in the code? | 07:39 |
| +perlDreamer | that a paypal plugin would be released for the Commerce | 07:39 |
| snapcoun1 | yeah it will be in wG 7.1 I think | 07:42 |
| +perlDreamer | okay | 07:42 |
| snapcoun1 | as a Payment Plugin | 07:42 |
| snapcoun1 | but maybe not | 07:42 |
| snapcoun1 | b/c Commerce is going to be rewritten | 07:42 |
| snapcoun1 | that has to happen first | 07:43 |
| snapcoun1 | it's going to be comprable to OSCommerce, ZenCart, etc | 07:43 |
| +perlDreamer | I've never used those. | 07:43 |
| snapcoun1 | those types of features | 07:43 |
| snapcoun1 | think Amazon | 07:43 |
| snapcoun1 | in WebGUI | 07:43 |
| +perlDreamer | sweet | 07:43 |
| snapcoun1 | yeah | 07:43 |
| snapcoun1 | it's going to be huge | 07:44 |
| +perlDreamer | that's definitely a 7.1 | 07:44 |
| snapcoun1 | a whole new customer base | 07:44 |
| snapcoun1 | I don't know the specifics | 07:44 |
| snapcoun1 | but it's what 7 is all about | 07:44 |
| snapcoun1 | 7.1 - whatever | 07:44 |
| +perlDreamer | speaking of new, tell JT that he needs to build a VOIP comparison site | 07:44 |
| snapcoun1 | have you told him =) | 07:45 |
| snapcoun1 | or is this a trap | 07:45 |
| snapcoun1 | lol | 07:45 |
| +perlDreamer | no, I thought it would complement the IM and other matrix sites | 07:45 |
| +perlDreamer | I wouldn't bear bait you | 07:45 |
| snapcoun1 | hehe | 07:47 |
| snapcoun1 | I know | 07:47 |
| +perlDreamer | are you still on break between classes? | 07:48 |
| snapcoun1 | no | 07:48 |
| snapcoun1 | I'm half done | 07:48 |
| snapcoun1 | 3 weeks left | 07:48 |
| snapcoun1 | this week: thermodynamics for retards | 07:49 |
| snapcoun1 | hehe | 07:49 |
| +perlDreamer | I thought you were taking business classes? | 07:49 |
| snapcoun1 | "no no, heat and temperature are not the same Sally" | 07:49 |
| snapcoun1 | sigh* | 07:49 |
| snapcoun1 | this is my last Gen-Ed | 07:50 |
| snapcoun1 | for Business | 07:50 |
| +perlDreamer | then you can get down to serious business | 07:50 |
| snapcoun1 | heh | 07:50 |
| +perlDreamer | instead of messing around with all that engineering stuff | 07:50 |
| +perlDreamer | I mean, really! | 07:50 |
| +perlDreamer | who'd use that? | 07:50 |
| snapcoun1 | I'm considering changing my major | 07:51 |
| snapcoun1 | I really don't like Business classes | 07:51 |
| snapcoun1 | but it's the safe degree | 07:51 |
| +perlDreamer | what about taking over the world? | 07:51 |
| snapcoun1 | I know | 07:51 |
| snapcoun1 | I think I can do that w/o a business degree | 07:52 |
| +perlDreamer | I think so, too | 07:52 |
| +perlDreamer | Look at Dave Thomas | 07:52 |
| snapcoun1 | my passion is Test Engineering | 07:52 |
| snapcoun1 | which == Comp. Sci, and EE | 07:52 |
| +perlDreamer | so more CS? | 07:52 |
| snapcoun1 | I'd have to basically start over if I change majors though | 07:53 |
| snapcoun1 | b/c I've taken business lvl math and science | 07:53 |
| snapcoun1 | which aren't worth crap for CS and/or Eng | 07:53 |
| +perlDreamer | but your EE level stuff should get you through the prereqs for CS | 07:53 |
| +perlDreamer | don't you already have an EE degree? | 07:53 |
| snapcoun1 | nope | 07:53 |
| snapcoun1 | I have EET certificates | 07:54 |
| snapcoun1 | vo-tech | 07:54 |
| +perlDreamer | ah | 07:54 |
| snapcoun1 | did that in High School | 07:54 |
| +perlDreamer | dude, you're smart | 07:54 |
| +perlDreamer | you can do it | 07:54 |
| snapcoun1 | it's a matter of goals at this point | 07:54 |
| snapcoun1 | I need to get a Bachelors | 07:54 |
| snapcoun1 | so I'm thinking I'll finish the Business degree | 07:55 |
| snapcoun1 | then maybe do CS or EE | 07:55 |
| +perlDreamer | either of them should be easy with your experience | 07:55 |
| snapcoun1 | I just need the degree for my piece of mind | 07:55 |
| +perlDreamer | and the salary | 07:55 |
| snapcoun1 | I'm not so good at math | 07:56 |
| snapcoun1 | which sucks | 07:56 |
| +perlDreamer | do the CS degree then | 07:56 |
| snapcoun1 | b/c it's key to the fundamental understanding of both | 07:56 |
| snapcoun1 | I like Math | 07:56 |
| snapcoun1 | but I have to work at it | 07:56 |
| +perlDreamer | I'm pretty sure that EE is more math intensive than CS | 07:56 |
| snapcoun1 | They're actually very close | 07:57 |
| snapcoun1 | at least at the school I'm going to | 07:57 |
| snapcoun1 | Calc I + II, Diff Eq, Linear Algebra | 07:57 |
| snapcoun1 | there are two more I think | 07:58 |
| snapcoun1 | can't remember | 07:58 |
| +perlDreamer | I had to take 8 classes for EE | 07:58 |
| +perlDreamer | in Math | 07:58 |
| +perlDreamer | Calc 1 and 2, Vector Calc, Diff Eq, Linear, Series and Sequences, Statistics | 07:58 |
| +perlDreamer | I forget the 8th | 07:59 |
| snapcoun1 | Stat was one of the two I couldn't think of | 07:59 |
| snapcoun1 | maybe that was it | 07:59 |
| snapcoun1 | then the science classes | 07:59 |
| snapcoun1 | may as well been math =) | 07:59 |
| +perlDreamer | most hard science is heavily math based | 07:59 |
| snapcoun1 | yeah | 08:00 |
| snapcoun1 | harder than the math I think | 08:00 |
| snapcoun1 | b/c it's applied | 08:00 |
| snapcoun1 | you have to understand it and know how to apply it | 08:00 |
| snapcoun1 | it's not abstract like it is in a math class | 08:00 |
| +perlDreamer | but if you can map the problem into a solution set, then it's just plug and chug | 08:01 |
| +perlDreamer | plus, real world stuff goes beyond hand analysis pretty quick | 08:01 |
| +perlDreamer | think about the fields in a capacitor | 08:01 |
| +perlDreamer | perpendicular fields are easy | 08:01 |
| +perlDreamer | fringe fields can be done to a certain degree | 08:02 |
| +perlDreamer | but anything complex is handled via finite element analysis and a computer program | 08:02 |
| snapcoun1 | you mean there is more to reactance and resonance then 1/2*pi*sqrt(L*C) | 08:03 |
| snapcoun1 | =) | 08:03 |
| +perlDreamer | only a little | 08:03 |
| +perlDreamer | I need to crash. | 08:04 |
| +perlDreamer | you be around later this week? | 08:04 |
| snapcoun1 | yeah should be | 08:04 |
| +perlDreamer | cool | 08:04 |
| snapcoun1 | oh | 08:04 |
| +perlDreamer | I may need you to explain how sections work so that I can document them | 08:04 |
| snapcoun1 | almost forgot | 08:05 |
| snapcoun1 | wanna see a 2 min video of me skydiving? | 08:05 |
| +perlDreamer | send me the URL | 08:05 |
| +perlDreamer | I'm still trying to get multimedia working on my laptop | 08:05 |
| snapcoun1 | heh | 08:05 |
| snapcoun1 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BaDElhcf0m4 | 08:05 |
| snapcoun1 | I need to get WRE working again | 08:06 |
| snapcoun1 | I've neglected him | 08:06 |
| +perlDreamer | one other quick thing | 08:06 |
| +perlDreamer | Matt is still in some of the session descriptions for the WUC | 08:06 |
| snapcoun1 | oh really | 08:06 |
| snapcoun1 | I'll mention it to Vrby | 08:07 |
| +perlDreamer | are you red or blue or camera-man? | 08:07 |
| snapcoun1 | red | 08:07 |
| snapcoun1 | the guy flopping around | 08:07 |
| snapcoun1 | =) | 08:07 |
| snapcoun1 | this is from last summer | 08:08 |
| +perlDreamer | nice flip | 08:08 |
| snapcoun1 | yeah, my front-flip was a failure | 08:09 |
| snapcoun1 | back flip went ok | 08:09 |
| +perlDreamer | to think that people jump out of perfectly good airplanes | 08:09 |
| +perlDreamer | tut tut tut | 08:09 |
| snapcoun1 | not anymore | 08:09 |
| snapcoun1 | been there done that =) | 08:09 |
| +perlDreamer | I like my feet on the ground | 08:11 |
| +perlDreamer | Trains are okay | 08:11 |
| +perlDreamer | slow but expensive | 08:11 |
| +perlDreamer | catch you later, Roy | 08:12 |
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| kamathl1 | what is WebGUI ?// | 23:41 |
| kamathl1 | hellooooooO! | 23:41 |
| kamathl1 | anybody home? | 23:43 |
| @snapcount | www.webgui.org | 23:43 |
| kamathl1 | thx | 23:43 |
| @snapcount | sure | 23:43 |
| +MrHairgrease | also check out the interview with jt at perlcast.com | 23:45 |
| +MrHairgrease | jt is the main webgui guy btw | 23:45 |
| kamathl1 | yeah yeah.. all that looks intresting when it comes ti the technical stff. but the legal stuff is kinda strange.. | 23:50 |
| kamathl1 | http://www.plainblack.com/legal | 23:51 |
| kamathl1 | any more legal stuff lying around anywhere else?// | 23:51 |
| @snapcount | in the source code | 23:51 |
| kamathl1 | Well. open source thuis is .. but is it really Free (as in freedom) | 23:51 |
| @snapcount | it's all GPL | 23:52 |
| @snapcount | yes and the software is free too | 23:52 |
| kamathl1 | Ha! it is strange to see that not mentioened on the website's "legal information" section.. which may drive away potential developers/users | 23:53 |
| +MrHairgrease | gotta go guys | 23:53 |
| +MrHairgrease | see you later | 23:53 |
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| kamathl1 | c ya | 23:53 |
| kamathl1 | people who are bent on "GNU and FOSS" will think it is on some otherr license and will get repelled | 23:54 |
| @snapcount | perhaps | 23:55 |
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| xdanger | I think that the legal page is about the plainblack.com site, not about the software | 00:31 |
| kamathl1 | oh | 00:31 |
| xdanger | 06.06.06 | 00:35 |
| xdanger | The fear of the number 666 is known as hexakosioihexekontahexaphobia. | 00:35 |
| kamathl1 | whats 06.06.06 ? | 00:35 |
| kamathl1 | Ah! | 00:35 |
| xdanger | just a funny quote that I found =) | 00:35 |
| xdanger | today =) | 00:35 |
| xdanger | we'll depends where in the world you are | 00:35 |
| kamathl1 | Hey! it took me full 12 seconds to pronounce it .. I like it :-P | 00:36 |
| xdanger | that's my word of the day =) | 00:36 |
| xdanger | propably don't even remember it tomorrow =) | 00:37 |
| kamathl1 | I couldn't remember the first half when i tried to pronounce the other :-P | 00:37 |
| * xdanger goes to sleep... | 00:39 | |
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| snapcoun1 | nice fix on the captcha bug martin | 15:18 |
| snapcoun1 | I spent like 2 hours on that and now I officially feel like a dummy =) | 15:18 |
| +MrHairgrease | heh | 15:18 |
| snapcoun1 | it's always the obvious that escapes me | 15:18 |
| +MrHairgrease | I knew my imagemagick had to work | 15:18 |
| +MrHairgrease | so I just figured | 15:19 |
| +MrHairgrease | maybe they have the same color | 15:19 |
| snapcoun1 | I knew the graphic was good because I checked it with the identify --verbose utility | 15:20 |
| snapcoun1 | sigh* | 15:20 |
| snapcoun1 | hours of my life wasted | 15:20 |
| +MrHairgrease | yeah | 15:20 |
| +MrHairgrease | you are very near a midlife crisis | 15:21 |
| snapcoun1 | Are you trying to cheer me up? (It's not working) lol | 15:21 |
| +MrHairgrease | have you picked up golfing with too young chicks yet? | 15:21 |
| +MrHairgrease | =) | 15:21 |
| snapcoun1 | no no... putt putt golfing | 15:21 |
| snapcoun1 | only golfing I do | 15:21 |
| +MrHairgrease | do you already dye your hair =) | 15:21 |
| snapcoun1 | lol | 15:21 |
| snapcoun1 | nope | 15:21 |
| snapcoun1 | still good there | 15:22 |
| +MrHairgrease | if your car larger than Koen's? | 15:22 |
| snapcoun1 | what kind of car does he have? | 15:22 |
| +MrHairgrease | Some bmw | 15:22 |
| +MrHairgrease | I dunno | 15:22 |
| snapcoun1 | ah | 15:22 |
| +MrHairgrease | He likes em big | 15:22 |
| snapcoun1 | no... I have a mustang | 15:22 |
| snapcoun1 | nothing fancy | 15:22 |
| +MrHairgrease | I have a bike | 15:22 |
| snapcoun1 | I want one | 15:22 |
| +MrHairgrease | bicicle | 15:23 |
| snapcoun1 | been saving =) | 15:23 |
| snapcoun1 | oh | 15:23 |
| snapcoun1 | I already have one of those =) | 15:23 |
| +MrHairgrease | it has those cute pink bag on the rear thiough | 15:23 |
| +MrHairgrease | the rest is covered in rust | 15:23 |
| snapcoun1 | pink eh? | 15:25 |
| snapcoun1 | never pictured you as the 'pink bag' kinda guy haha | 15:26 |
| snapcoun1 | I'm picturing your PBWG photo only with you having a pink bag over your shoulder | 15:26 |
| +MrHairgrease | yeah | 15:27 |
| +MrHairgrease | you do that | 15:28 |
| snapcoun1 | hah | 15:28 |
| +MrHairgrease | normally only girls are fantasizing about me | 15:28 |
| +MrHairgrease | but in your case I'll make an exeption =) | 15:28 |
| snapcoun1 | calc eurohunk | 15:28 |
| snapcoun1 | damn | 15:28 |
| snapcoun1 | need to get wre back in here I suppose | 15:28 |
| +MrHairgrease | yeah I miss it already | 15:29 |
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| +crythia1 | howdy | 02:48 |
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| Tamray | Here I am | 05:10 |
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| +crythia1 | heh. | 05:22 |
| +crythia1 | ok. where can I get the src for httpd 2.2? | 05:22 |
| +crythia1 | ryt? | 05:23 |
| +crythia1 | hi tamray | 05:25 |
| +crythia1 | cpan building apache2::request right now | 05:25 |
| Tamray | ok, what was wrong with it? | 05:27 |
| +crythia1 | you said it didn't know where apxs was? | 05:27 |
| Tamray | right | 05:27 |
| +crythia1 | well, I re-built libapreq2 from your root, and told it. | 05:28 |
| +crythia1 | then cpan seemed to "know" where it was. | 05:28 |
| Tamray | I don't know where the sourc was, where? | 05:28 |
| +crythia1 | libapreq was in root | 05:28 |
| +crythia1 | not /, but ~root | 05:28 |
| Tamray | right, but I had run make many, times | 05:28 |
| +crythia1 | but right this second, I'm sitting watching parsers do no... | 05:28 |
| +crythia1 | 1/542 | 05:29 |
| +crythia1 | but apache won't start now anyway... | 05:29 |
| Tamray | it will error out at the end | 05:29 |
| +crythia1 | grr | 05:29 |
| +crythia1 | ctrl-c is mucked up | 05:29 |
| +crythia1 | hmm | 05:30 |
| +crythia1 | apache won't start at all? | 05:31 |
| Tamray | hmm, good | 05:31 |
| Tamray | Right, if you look at error_log it complains about a .pm | 05:31 |
| +crythia1 | no. | 05:32 |
| +crythia1 | not even with the head junk removed... trying to diagnose... | 05:32 |
| +crythia1 | sigh. would be nice to know if there was an rcs available. | 05:33 |
| +crythia1 | I hate making numeric backups of files | 05:33 |
| Tamray | what do you think? | 05:34 |
| +crythia1 | if I coudl use ci, it'd rock. because I can do versions of httpd.conf, even delete it, and get it back working. | 05:34 |
| Tamray | you know more than me. | 05:34 |
| +crythia1 | please bear with me as I'm trying to get apache to work, first, then we get WebGUI :( | 05:34 |
| Tamray | al the webgui stuff is at the top of httpd.conf | 05:35 |
| +crythia1 | except for NameVirtualHosts | 05:35 |
| +crythia1 | still httpd isn't starting | 05:35 |
| Tamray | right | 05:35 |
| +crythia1 | configtest isn't working... | 05:38 |
| Tamray | service httpd start?? | 05:38 |
| +crythia1 | takes for EVEN | 05:38 |
| +crythia1 | EVER | 05:38 |
| +crythia1 | why? | 05:41 |
| +crythia1 | oh. | 05:41 |
| +crythia1 | guess 'cause no documentroot | 05:41 |
| Tamray | why service httpd start? FC5's way | 05:41 |
| +crythia1 | I did that. wasn't happening. | 05:41 |
| Tamray | the only change made from befoe webgui is the added stuff to httpd.conf, and I copied Apache2 folder to /data/WebGUI/lib | 05:42 |
| +crythia1 | right. ok. I renamed the Apache2 folder because it wasn't linked properly to your apache install | 05:43 |
| Tamray | k | 05:43 |
| +crythia1 | and I can't get apache to work with the current httpd.conf | 05:43 |
| Tamray | replace away | 05:44 |
| +crythia1 | dont' know what I'm missing. | 05:44 |
| +crythia1 | apache should be instant start. | 05:44 |
| Tamray | yep | 05:44 |
| +crythia1 | right. 'cause you're using bad IP addresses! | 05:45 |
| Tamray | ? | 05:45 |
| +crythia1 | your ip address (apparently) maps to news.bbe.k12.mn.us | 05:45 |
| Tamray | I used the same box that used to be that server. You can remove all traces | 05:46 |
| Tamray | should have the same host name as the other box. www.tamray.com | 05:46 |
| +crythia1 | httpd: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name | 05:47 |
| +crythia1 | this is a common error | 05:47 |
| Tamray | how can that be fixed? | 05:47 |
| +crythia1 | ServerName directive in httpd.conf. fixable later. | 05:47 |
| Tamray | k | 05:48 |
| +crythia1 | BUT that's what's taking so long. | 05:48 |
| +crythia1 | it thinks it's something.. | 05:48 |
| +crythia1 | much faster now! | 05:49 |
| +crythia1 | :) | 05:49 |
| Tamray | cool | 05:49 |
| Tamray | so apache starts without a hitch? | 05:49 |
| +crythia1 | but I still need (I think?) httpd-2.2 src... dunno. gimme a sec | 05:49 |
| +crythia1 | well, apache starts without webgui | 05:49 |
| +crythia1 | so far, that's a good thing | 05:50 |
| Tamray | if you can find a way to provide a source we should post this solution for rpm installs | 05:50 |
| +crythia1 | well, it'd be httpd-2.2.src.rpm or whatever | 05:51 |
| Tamray | you want me to find it? | 05:51 |
| +crythia1 | yes, please? :) | 05:51 |
| Tamray | k | 05:51 |
| +crythia1 | hrm. | 05:51 |
| +crythia1 | interesting mod_perl is having to be installed by cpan? the heck? | 05:52 |
| Tamray | it was installed 2.x | 05:54 |
| +crythia1 | ok. | 05:54 |
| +crythia1 | right now, sitting on parsers .....ok 1/542 | 05:55 |
| +crythia1 | where I cut out before. | 05:55 |
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| Tamray | what version of httpd do I have | 05:56 |
| +crythia1 | 2.2 | 05:57 |
| Tamray | rpm -q httpd | 05:57 |
| +crythia1 | httpd-2.2.0-5.1.2 | 05:57 |
| +crythia1 | but if you'd be good enough to remove httpd-2.2 and replace with httpd-2.0, I'd be happy | 05:58 |
| +crythia1 | or not | 05:58 |
| +crythia1 | wait. | 05:58 |
| Tamray | closest I could find ftp://rpmfind.net/linux/fedora/core/updates/testing/5/SRPMS/httpd-2.2.0-5.2.src.rpm | 05:59 |
| +crythia1 | ok. | 05:59 |
| +crythia1 | then you'd have a 5.2 .rpm | 05:59 |
| Tamray | ftp://rpmfind.net/linux/fedora/core/updates/testing/5/i386/httpd-2.2.0-5.2.i386.rpm | 06:00 |
| +crythia1 | that's testing | 06:00 |
| +crythia1 | don't think you want that. | 06:00 |
| Tamray | k | 06:00 |
| Tamray | what do I want? | 06:00 |
| +crythia1 | sec | 06:00 |
| +crythia1 | this is what you have ftp://rpmfind.net/linux/fedora/core/5/i386/os/Fedora/RPMS/httpd-2.2.0-5.1.2.i386.rpm | 06:01 |
| Tamray | I couldn't find the src rpm for that | 06:01 |
| +crythia1 | ftp://rpmfind.net/linux/fedora/core/5/source/SRPMS/httpd-2.2.0-5.1.2.src.rpm | 06:01 |
| Tamray | rpm away | 06:02 |
| +crythia1 | been ages. | 06:02 |
| Tamray | I can do it. | 06:03 |
| Radix-wrk | man, I haven't had to deal with rpm madness for years | 06:03 |
| Radix-wrk | apt-get is sooo much nicer :) | 06:03 |
| Tamray | hang on a few minutes | 06:03 |
| +crythia1 | Tamray: I'm wget on the first site | 06:04 |
| +crythia1 | then I'll sftp to the second | 06:04 |
| +crythia1 | Radix: I hear ys | 06:04 |
| +crythia1 | I'm FreeBSD. mine's portinstall | 06:05 |
| Radix-wrk | heh | 06:05 |
| Radix-wrk | that's prolly the hardest thing with webgui in some ways - all the different system configurations makes it hard to make everyone happy | 06:06 |
| +crythia1 | tamray: stop | 06:06 |
| Tamray | k, httpd is gone though | 06:07 |
| +crythia1 | yeah. 'cause I wget'd from one then sftpd to t'other. | 06:07 |
| +crythia1 | nm. | 06:07 |
| +crythia1 | but you rpm installed it? | 06:07 |
| Tamray | so you have it from here, or can we scp things to the server | 06:08 |
| +crythia1 | on second, it's in ~ | 06:08 |
| Radix-wrk | Anyways, I'll leave you guys to it and get back to work - sounds like a busy install :) | 06:08 |
| Tamray | i removed the httpd we had installed, getting ready for the new one | 06:08 |
| +crythia1 | what? | 06:08 |
| Tamray | I did a rpm -e httpd --nodeps | 06:08 |
| +crythia1 | put it back? | 06:09 |
| Tamray | :) | 06:09 |
| Tamray | its back now, and the src rom is in /root | 06:12 |
| +crythia1 | sorry. I'm trying to find out where everything is. | 06:13 |
| Tamray | I didn't install the src rpm | 06:14 |
| +crythia1 | I"m happy-er now. I think | 06:15 |
| Tamray | happy is good | 06:15 |
| +crythia1 | I don't think I installed it correct | 06:15 |
| Tamray | installed what? | 06:15 |
| +crythia1 | the sources. they came out icky | 06:15 |
| +crythia1 | pwd | 06:15 |
| +crythia1 | not password | 06:16 |
| Tamray | have to use rpmbuild --rebuild src.rpm | 06:16 |
| +crythia1 | no. | 06:16 |
| +crythia1 | I just need the source code. I think? | 06:16 |
| Tamray | where can we get it? | 06:16 |
| +crythia1 | it's now in /usr/src/redhat/SOURCES. I'm an idiot and rpm -Uv httpd...src.rpm | 06:17 |
| +crythia1 | I think I missed a flag | 06:17 |
| Tamray | why do you think that? | 06:18 |
| +crythia1 | thought it might have been dumped into its own dir structure | 06:19 |
| Tamray | and? | 06:19 |
| +crythia1 | it didn't. it went into "SOURCES" | 06:20 |
| Tamray | good | 06:20 |
| +crythia1 | nm. Like I said... | 06:20 |
| Tamray | now that you say this. It all makes perfect sense | 06:20 |
| +crythia1 | I wanted it, maybe to go into SOURCES\httpd | 06:21 |
| +crythia1 | not important right now | 06:21 |
| Tamray | right | 06:21 |
| +crythia1 | I want to install rcs, though | 06:21 |
| Tamray | install what you need. why rcs? | 06:22 |
| +crythia1 | does xtratyme mean anything to you? | 06:22 |
| Tamray | my ISP | 06:22 |
| Tamray | wireless ISP | 06:22 |
| +crythia1 | 'kay | 06:22 |
| +crythia1 | here's the thing with RCS: we can monkey around with installing and deinstalling httpd | 06:22 |
| +crythia1 | BUT it kills httpd.conf. | 06:23 |
| +crythia1 | if we use RCS, we can safely kill httpd.conf and bring it back. | 06:23 |
| Tamray | please do, and document it for me tomorrow, when you have time | 06:23 |
| +crythia1 | rpm -Uv rpmfile, right? | 06:24 |
| Tamray | yes | 06:25 |
| +crythia1 | you're editing resolv.conf? | 06:25 |
| Tamray | just checking it to see why no internet | 06:26 |
| +crythia1 | it's routing problem | 06:26 |
| +crythia1 | you have no default route | 06:26 |
| Tamray | I set this box up at my office today, and then brought it home | 06:26 |
| +crythia1 | ok. you have a default route | 06:26 |
| +crythia1 | but it's not the same as the first box | 06:27 |
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| +crythia1 | I'm sorry this is taking so long. | 06:27 |
| +perlDreamer | I know | 06:27 |
| +perlDreamer | wG 7 has taken years | 06:27 |
| +crythia1 | ah. | 06:28 |
| Tamray | both need to point to 10.10.10.1 for default | 06:28 |
| +crythia1 | rpmsave still.. | 06:28 |
| Tamray | yes | 06:28 |
| +crythia1 | tamray: but somehow ... | 06:28 |
| +crythia1 | first box says ipcop | 06:28 |
| +crythia1 | when route | 06:28 |
| Tamray | that is my firewall 10.10.10.1 | 06:29 |
| +crythia1 | route still isn't working. :( | 06:29 |
| +crythia1 | or ping doesn't work through your firewall outbound to ip address. | 06:29 |
| Tamray | subnetmask issue. different at work. | 06:30 |
| +crythia1 | yep. I'd agree | 06:30 |
| Tamray | if it is trouble I can fix the firewall to match the box | 06:30 |
| +crythia1 | well, you won't be serving pages until it's fixed. | 06:31 |
| Tamray | you will get bumped off. ok to do now? | 06:31 |
| +crythia1 | go for it | 06:31 |
| +crythia1 | think it might be faster. | 06:33 |
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| +crythia1 | ok | 06:35 |
| Tamray_Tech | k | 06:35 |
| +crythia1 | untarred the source | 06:36 |
| +crythia1 | now for cpan | 06:36 |
| Tamray_Tech | libpreq? | 06:37 |
| +crythia1 | Apache2::Request | 06:37 |
| Tamray_Tech | k | 06:37 |
| +crythia1 | however, seems to be moving a bit nicer...? | 06:37 |
| Tamray_Tech | All the little things you learn when you try to help somene:) | 06:38 |
| +crythia1 | the thing is.. | 06:38 |
| +crythia1 | why the HECK does Apache2::Request want to install mod_perl for apache1?? | 06:39 |
| Tamray_Tech | I have no idea. I saw that earlier. About the time I pulled my last hair out.. Maybe wrong vesion? | 06:39 |
| +crythia1 | think I might have help ftp://ftp.pbone.net/mirror/ftp.pld-linux.org/dists/2.0/PLD/i586/PLD/RPMS/perl-libapreq2-2.05-2.i586.rpm | 06:43 |
| Tamray_Tech | isn't that the rpm I have installed? | 06:44 |
| +crythia1 | not the perl one. | 06:44 |
| +crythia1 | maybe. | 06:44 |
| +crythia1 | still looking | 06:44 |
| Tamray_Tech | missed that. Glad you found it. I looked earlier nad never came across it | 06:45 |
| +crythia1 | ftp://fr2.rpmfind.net/linux/fedora/extras/5/i386/perl-libapreq2-2.07-2.fc5.i386.rpm | 06:46 |
| +crythia1 | sorry about another time waster. | 06:46 |
| Tamray_Tech | did you download it? | 06:46 |
| +crythia1 | cpan install cpanbundle is long | 06:46 |
| +crythia1 | not yet. | 06:46 |
| +crythia1 | wish I installed screen, though. I'd be happier | 06:47 |
| +crythia1 | screen allows you to ctrl-a ctrl-a swap between jobs | 06:47 |
| Tamray_Tech | what do you mean "installed screen" | 06:47 |
| +crythia1 | nice nice nice | 06:47 |
| Tamray_Tech | k | 06:47 |
| Radix-wrk | screen is a must for remote work :) | 06:47 |
| Tamray_Tech | send me a link | 06:48 |
| +crythia1 | it's a fc5 rpm | 06:48 |
| Tamray_Tech | no wonder I didn't know about it:) | 06:48 |
| +crythia1 | the *best* thing about screen is that it allows you to disconnect from a job (like a long compile) or because of a dropped link... then you just... reconnect! | 06:49 |
| Radix-wrk | fedora doesn't include screen? | 06:49 |
| +crythia1 | the job just keeps on going. | 06:49 |
| +crythia1 | not in his install. | 06:49 |
| +crythia1 | neither rcs | 06:49 |
| Tamray_Tech | I use Remote Desktop with putty for the same reason | 06:49 |
| +crythia1 | yeah, but if your putty disco's, you have to start anew. | 06:50 |
| +crythia1 | unless you're running your job in screen | 06:50 |
| +crythia1 | first: login. | 06:50 |
| +crythia1 | screen -rd | 06:50 |
| Tamray_Tech | yep, but I can go home at the end of the day and hope for the best:) | 06:50 |
| +crythia1 | screen allows you not to have to hope :) | 06:50 |
| Tamray_Tech | nothing more fun than running make on a 100Mb file and have to go home soon with your laptop:) | 06:51 |
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| +crythia1 | # screen | 06:52 |
| Tamray_Tech | my other login disconnected. I am still here | 06:52 |
| +crythia1 | # make 100mb file | 06:52 |
| +crythia1 | # ctl-d (disconnect) | 06:52 |
| +crythia1 | go home | 06:52 |
| +crythia1 | telnet | 06:52 |
| Tamray_Tech | :) | 06:52 |
| +crythia1 | screen -rd | 06:52 |
| +crythia1 | .... what compile options did you want? | 06:53 |
| Tamray_Tech | what are we compiling now? | 06:53 |
| +crythia1 | um. | 06:53 |
| +crythia1 | just rpm installed perl-libapreq2 | 06:53 |
| Tamray_Tech | use your judgement | 06:54 |
| Tamray_Tech | is the world perfect now? | 06:54 |
| +crythia1 | *gasp* | 06:54 |
| +crythia1 | perl preload.perl is not balking (as much) as it used to | 06:55 |
| Tamray_Tech | I couldn't even get it to balk | 06:55 |
| +crythia1 | testEnvironment.pl is better-ish | 06:55 |
| Tamray_Tech | I commented out a few things I was going to work on later | 06:56 |
| Tamray_Tech | do you need to go? | 06:56 |
| +crythia1 | getting closer | 06:57 |
| Tamray_Tech | k | 06:57 |
| +crythia1 | webgui is starting | 06:58 |
| +crythia1 | and failed. | 06:58 |
| +crythia1 | but nicer | 06:58 |
| Tamray_Tech | a nicely failed start is better than a bad failed start:) | 06:58 |
| +crythia1 | the errors are no longer the same thing | 06:59 |
| Tamray_Tech | what do they relate to? | 06:59 |
| +crythia1 | the .conf, I think? | 07:00 |
| Tamray_Tech | maybe I didn't get all the perms on the folders changed to apache? | 07:01 |
| +crythia1 | it's a parsing problem :( | 07:01 |
| Tamray_Tech | nothing is sacred in my config | 07:01 |
| +crythia1 | WebGUI runs | 07:03 |
| Tamray_Tech | whoo hoo! | 07:03 |
| * crythia1 smacks you about the head. | 07:03 | |
| +crythia1 | ok. | 07:04 |
| Tamray_Tech | ouch! | 07:04 |
| +crythia1 | one thing you didn't (couldn't?) know about: perl-libapreq2 rpm | 07:04 |
| +crythia1 | it doesn't appear to be a stock FC5 rpm. | 07:04 |
| +crythia1 | but it was what fixed what was missing | 07:05 |
| Tamray_Tech | you commented on this in another post, but I did not realize it was perl-libapreq2 | 07:05 |
| +crythia1 | the parsing errors were related to you not enclosing strings inside quotes | 07:05 |
| +crythia1 | in FreeBSD, it's p5-libapreq2 | 07:05 |
| Tamray_Tech | where, my www.tamray.com.conf? | 07:06 |
| +crythia1 | there's two: libapreq2 and p5-libapreq2 | 07:06 |
| +crythia1 | yes, your .conf | 07:06 |
| Tamray_Tech | k | 07:06 |
| +crythia1 | I fixed them and created a version history for the fixed version | 07:06 |
| Tamray_Tech | send me the links for those when you document your work | 07:06 |
| +crythia1 | I leave it to you to get your domain working,... | 07:07 |
| +crythia1 | well. | 07:07 |
| Tamray_Tech | You can email me tomorrow. if webgui is working we are good | 07:07 |
| +crythia1 | you still have that criteria for mailman to work... | 07:07 |
| Tamray_Tech | should still work if /etc/httpd/conf.d/mailman.conf is still there | 07:08 |
| +crythia1 | (hint: don't delete things with ,v) | 07:08 |
| Tamray_Tech | vi ? | 07:08 |
| +crythia1 | gotta put passthruUrls | 07:08 |
| Tamray_Tech | easy enough, and Location tag | 07:09 |
| +crythia1 | your domain isn't working via internet | 07:09 |
| +crythia1 | apache seems to be working, though. | 07:10 |
| Tamray_Tech | I will get it working, if webgui is running I am good | 07:10 |
| Tamray_Tech | so, we're finished up? | 07:11 |
| Radix-wrk | So does anyone here actually use any methods for reinstalling a whole webgui system from scratch? | 07:12 |
| Radix-wrk | I've just been working on making a clone of our current setup on a virtual machine.. partly for testing, but also just to reproduce the process and look at documenting it. | 07:12 |
| +crythia1 | Tamray: I think so. Let me know how you feel | 07:12 |
| Tamray_Tech | Thanks much. I will talk to you tomorrow when you send me your findings and advice. | 07:14 |
| +crythia1 | heh. I got neg digs on this... but here's the rcs info: http://www.plainblack.com/etcetera/ot-ci--l-rcs---easily-version-your-files | 07:14 |
| Tamray_Tech | if it will help other users you can document/share whatever you like:) | 07:15 |
| +crythia1 | np. | 07:15 |
| +crythia1 | I wasted too much time trying to do what you did. :) | 07:15 |
| +crythia1 | you were as close as perl-libapreq2 | 07:15 |
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| +crythia1 | Radix: I wasn't ignoring you.... same architecture? | 07:16 |
| Tamray_Tech | funny!, but worth a bunch. | 07:16 |
| +crythia1 | Thanks for your patience. | 07:17 |
| Tamray_Tech | That was my line:) I really appreciate your help. Have a good night! | 07:17 |
| Radix-wrk | The virtual machine (using virtualpc on windows) was mostly because I wanted something I could use to test our webgui site with the latest webgui versions - and see what errors came up, what problems were encountered (and hopefully help log some of them before 7 went live) | 07:18 |
| Tamray_Tech | great idea | 07:18 |
| +crythia1 | ok. 'cause the capitalizations will be prob. moving from win to linux | 07:18 |
| Radix-wrk | so I made a virtual machine of a bare debian install, installed everything to get it to run our current webgui site. | 07:19 |
| Radix-wrk | nah.. I didn't install it under windows - I used virtualpc on windows | 07:19 |
| Radix-wrk | VirtualPC is like vmware, etc | 07:19 |
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| +crythia1 | gotcha | 07:20 |
| +crythia1 | mysqdump data > datafile.sql | 07:20 |
| +crythia1 | tar czvf webgui.tar.gz /data | 07:21 |
| Radix-wrk | yup.. I have backups of the /data dir and mysql - so I use that to sync the clone with our virtual server | 07:21 |
| Radix-wrk | works a treat actually | 07:21 |
| Radix-wrk | got a 6.99.2 version of our server (though not had time to try 6.99.3 yet) | 07:21 |
| +crythia1 | if I crashed, I can get up and running within a bit | 07:21 |
| +crythia1 | well, 'cept nothings important so far ? :) | 07:22 |
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| Radix-wrk | I never commented btw, but I did appreciate that rcs post you made - I found it very useful | 07:26 |
| Radix-wrk | I've yet to get it into my daily processes tho - which is a bit of a shame - been too busy doing everything else. | 07:27 |
| +karma_kameleon | when I figured out what it did... | 07:58 |
| +karma_kameleon | (rcs) | 07:58 |
| +karma_kameleon | I just can't start working on .confs without it. | 07:59 |
| +karma_kameleon | and all the /etcs | 07:59 |
| +karma_kameleon | I just couldn't believe how useful and EASY it was to use. | 07:59 |
| Radix-wrk | heh | 07:59 |
| +karma_kameleon | and when you do something like rm -f /etc/passwd and then co -l passwd :) | 08:00 |
| +karma_kameleon | it's so nive | 08:00 |
| +karma_kameleon | nice | 08:00 |
| * snapcoun1 howls at the moon | 08:00 | |
| Radix-wrk | yeah.. I just have to break 10 years of habit to use it that's all ;) | 08:01 |
| +karma_kameleon | I completely understand. | 08:01 |
| snapcoun1 | crythias: what's this? you cloning yourself now? lol | 08:01 |
| +karma_kameleon | but... wow. ci -l filename.ext is just so much nicer than cp filename.ext filename.ext.today's date | 08:01 |
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| +crythia1 | heh | 08:03 |
| Radix-wrk | home account? | 08:03 |
| +crythia1 | well, yeah, but I left office on | 08:03 |
| Radix-wrk | heh | 08:04 |
| Radix-wrk | So anyone else here going to WUC? | 08:04 |
| snapcoun1 | thinking about it | 08:04 |
| snapcoun1 | =) | 08:04 |
| +crythia1 | I want to go, really. but not certain. | 08:04 |
| Radix-wrk | I've had approval from the boss, booked my ticket - just got to organise the flights :) | 08:05 |
| Radix-wrk | funnily enough, it's the same price to go to las vegas from here as it is to do a world trip.. so I'm planning a big world trip at the same time :) | 08:05 |
| snapcoun1 | either of you guys openldap experts? | 08:06 |
| +crythia1 | I may have a change in where I live... | 08:06 |
| Radix-wrk | same cost to go from perth - las vegas as it is to go perth, london, paris, new york, las vegas, san francisco, perth - tis crazy :) | 08:06 |
| +crythia1 | I don't know ldap :( I'm lame | 08:07 |
| Radix-wrk | snapcoun1: no, sorry, ldap newbie | 08:07 |
| snapcoun1 | we should start a club | 08:07 |
| Radix-wrk | heh | 08:07 |
| snapcoun1 | =P | 08:07 |
| +crythia1 | active directory works for me! Call 1800 MSN LDAP | 08:07 |
| Radix-wrk | I just use the database linkage for user management | 08:08 |
| snapcoun1 | I spent 3 hours today to figure out that if you define an index for a uid attribute that filters won't work for that attribute | 08:08 |
| snapcoun1 | I don't know if it's the posixAccount objectClass or what the fubar is | 08:08 |
| snapcoun1 | (uid=jsmith*) works | 08:08 |
| snapcoun1 | (uid=jsmith) does not | 08:08 |
| +crythia1 | gtg... ttfn | 08:08 |
| snapcoun1 | ttfn? | 08:09 |
| +crythia1 | ta ta for now | 08:09 |
| Radix-wrk | ta ta for now | 08:09 |
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| snapcoun1 | Tickle Tickle Fickle Nickle | 08:09 |
| snapcoun1 | this ldap stuff is actually pretty cool | 08:10 |
| snapcoun1 | I have a webgui site and my shell acounts authenticating against here in my test environment | 08:10 |
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| +crythias | hello | 16:37 |
| +MrHairgrease | hello | 16:39 |
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| +MrHairgrease | hey roy | 18:41 |
| +MrHairgrease | are you converted to the new dev list yet? | 18:41 |
| +MrHairgrease | if so | 18:42 |
| +MrHairgrease | how do you like it | 18:42 |
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| jiggie | hey people | 22:01 |
| jiggie | i got most of webgui installed execpt errors with perl modules | 22:01 |
| jiggie | can anyone help | 22:02 |
| jiggie | The perl module HTML::Parser is outdated, | 22:02 |
| snapcoun1 | are you doing this on your own or using wre | 22:24 |
| snapcoun1 | either way, make sure the correct perl (the one webgui uses) is in your path | 22:25 |
| snapcoun1 | and do $>perl -MCPAN -e install | 22:25 |
| snapcoun1 | install HTML::Parser | 22:25 |
| snapcoun1 | it should update it if there is a newer version | 22:25 |
| snapcoun1 | oops | 22:25 |
| snapcoun1 | perl -MCPAN -e shell | 22:25 |
| snapcoun1 | sorry | 22:26 |
| xdanger | or perl -MCPAN -e 'install HTML::Parser' | 22:26 |
| snapcoun1 | rinse and repeat for any other modules you need to update | 22:26 |
| snapcoun1 | if you're using wre and they are out of date/missing you are either using the wrong version of wre or there is a bug and you should report it | 22:27 |
| jiggie | ok going for that | 22:29 |
| jiggie | i just downloaded from source | 22:29 |
| jiggie | to follow the instructions on the site | 22:29 |
| jiggie | they seem to be easier now to read after 1 week of a break from it | 22:29 |
| jiggie | so when will you guys re-do the installation instructions | 22:31 |
| jiggie | waiting for an install to finish from cpan | 22:31 |
| jiggie | ok did that | 22:41 |
| jiggie | now missing some pod, and installing it | 22:41 |
| jiggie | it always does this Warning: prerequisite IO::Zlib 1.01 not found | 22:42 |
| jiggie | whats that | 22:42 |
| jiggie | is there a command to install all the modules it needs + dependencies | 22:55 |
| jiggie | Checking for module Archive::Tar: Install of Archive::Tar failed! | 22:55 |
| jiggie | crap again | 22:55 |
| jiggie | too many errors and it fails | 23:02 |
| jiggie | pg: Can't check signature: public key not found | 23:03 |
| jiggie | ==> BAD/TAMPERED signature detected! <== | 23:03 |
| jiggie | t/0signature....FAILED test 1 | 23:03 |
| +crythias | why aren't you using your distro's perl-Archive-Tar? | 23:07 |
| jiggie | redhat | 23:07 |
| +crythias | what? | 23:07 |
| jiggie | i'm using redhat ES 4 | 23:07 |
| jiggie | can you show me how to get that perl working | 23:08 |
| +crythias | yes. | 23:08 |
| jiggie | i'm all ears | 23:09 |
| +crythias | soon as I find where the redhat rpms are | 23:09 |
| +crythias | x86? | 23:10 |
| jiggie | i took this system and it has been ok until the perl testEn....... | 23:10 |
| +crythias | i386? | 23:10 |
| jiggie | yeah | 23:11 |
| +crythias | which of these makes sense? | 23:11 |
| +crythias | ftp://ftp.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/enterprise/4/en/ | 23:11 |
| +crythias | nm | 23:11 |
| +crythias | they're all source. | 23:11 |
| jiggie | let me check | 23:12 |
| +crythias | http://rpmfind.net/linux/rpm2html/search.php?query=perl-Archive-Tar | 23:13 |
| +crythias | but I wouldn't begin to know which (FC5?) would be useable on RHES4 | 23:14 |
| +crythias | if you've set up yum(?) repo, you should be able to yum install it | 23:14 |
| +crythias | apologies. I am not familiar with which package manager is the recommended for RHES | 23:15 |
| jiggie | let me check... which one is better | 23:15 |
| jiggie | on the first one nothing | 23:17 |
| jiggie | ok downlaoded the file | 23:21 |
| jiggie | and doing rpm -ivh filename but it does not install | 23:21 |
| jiggie | perl-Archive-Tar-1.26-1.2.el4.rf.noarch.rpm | 23:21 |
| jiggie | .done | 23:22 |
| jiggie | rpm -ivh perl-Archive-Tar-1.26-1.2.el4.rf.noarch.rpm | 23:22 |
| jiggie | works | 23:23 |
| jiggie | now what | 23:23 |
| +crythias | continue the other | 23:23 |
| jiggie | the procedure i had b4 | 23:23 |
| jiggie | it was pert testEnv....... | 23:24 |
| +crythias | perl testEnvironment | 23:24 |
| jiggie | The perl module IO::Zlib is not installed, do you want to install it now? {y|n} [y] | 23:24 |
| +crythias | yes. but if you can use your el4 modules, do it instead of cpan | 23:24 |
| jiggie | i suppose y right | 23:24 |
| jiggie | el4 modules | 23:24 |
| jiggie | how do i do that | 23:24 |
| +crythias | el4.rf.noarch.rpm | 23:24 |
| jiggie | so i have to look for that and install it | 23:25 |
| +crythias | perl-IO-Zlib | 23:25 |
| +crythias | or try to watch cpan do it. *MY* preference is to use the OS's packages as much as possible. | 23:25 |
| jiggie | searched and found it | 23:26 |
| jiggie | he perl module Tie::IxHash is not installed, do you want to install it now? {y|n} [y] | 23:26 |
| jiggie | lol | 23:26 |
| jiggie | so i should keep doing this untill all are satisfied | 23:26 |
| +crythias | IMO, yes. | 23:26 |
| +crythias | it's what I've done. | 23:27 |
| jiggie | so redhat 4 is not so easy, missing lots of stuff | 23:28 |
| +crythias | most apps are | 23:28 |
| +crythias | WebGUI relies on a lot of otherwise optional stuff | 23:29 |
| jiggie | after i understand this very good, gonna make a dummy version of how to | 23:29 |
| jiggie | what you need to look for and everything | 23:29 |
| +crythias | sure | 23:29 |
| jiggie | is there a package with all of them | 23:33 |
| +crythias | well. the wre tries | 23:34 |
| jiggie | all those files are there | 23:34 |
| jiggie | can i just downlaode the wre and copy the files | 23:35 |
| +crythias | they compile for the os | 23:35 |
| +crythias | the happy thing? you only have to install once :) and you get upgrade-ability if you use your OS's packager. | 23:36 |
| jiggie | error: Failed dependencies: | 23:36 |
| jiggie | perl(Net::XMPP) >= 1.0 is needed by perl-Net-Jabber-2.0-1.2.el4.rf.noarch | 23:36 |
| jiggie | perl(Net::XMPP::Client) is needed by perl-Net-Jabber-2.0-1.2.el4.rf.noarch | 23:36 |
| jiggie | perl(Net::XMPP::Connection) is needed by perl-Net-Jabber-2.0-1.2.el4.rf.noarch | 23:36 |
| jiggie | perl(Net::XMPP::Debug) is needed by perl-Net-Jabber-2.0-1.2.el4.rf.noarch | 23:36 |
| jiggie | perl(Net::XMPP::IQ) is needed by perl-Net-Jabber-2.0-1.2.el4.rf.noarch | 23:36 |
| jiggie | perl(Net::XMPP::JID) is needed by perl-Net-Jabber-2.0-1.2.el4.rf.noarch | 23:36 |
| jiggie | perl(Net::XMPP::Message) is needed by perl-Net-Jabber-2.0-1.2.el4.rf.noarch | 23:36 |
| jiggie | perl(Net::XMPP::Namespaces) is needed by perl-Net-Jabber-2.0-1.2.el4.rf.noarch | 23:36 |
| jiggie | perl(Net::XMPP::Presence) is needed by perl-Net-Jabber-2.0-1.2.el4.rf.noarch | 23:36 |
| jiggie | perl(Net::XMPP::Stanza) is needed by perl-Net-Jabber-2.0-1.2.el4.rf.noarch | 23:36 |
| jiggie | crazy | 23:36 |
| jiggie | so how can i do that | 23:37 |
| jiggie | what you say | 23:37 |
| +crythias | perl-Net-Jabber is required? | 23:37 |
| jiggie | yep | 23:37 |
| +crythias | which webgui? | 23:37 |
| jiggie | Failed dependencies: | 23:37 |
| jiggie | perl(Net::Jabber) >= 1.0021 is needed by perl-SOAP-Lite-0.67-1.2.el4.rf.noarch | 23:37 |
| jiggie | latest gamma | 23:38 |
| jiggie | stable | 23:38 |
| jiggie | 6.8 | 23:38 |
| +crythias | Jabber bc of SOAP-Lite | 23:38 |
| +crythias | ok. perl-Net-XMMP? | 23:38 |
| jiggie | lost m,e there buddy | 23:38 |
| +crythias | Jabber is a dependency of SOAP-Lite, which is required by WG. That's what threw me. | 23:39 |
| jiggie | so whats next' | 23:39 |
| +crythias | get the perl-Net-XMMP | 23:39 |
| jiggie | searching | 23:40 |
| +crythias | xmpp | 23:40 |
| +crythias | http://mirrors.ircam.fr/pub/dag/dries/packages/perl-Net-XMPP/el4-i386/perl-Net-XMPP-1.0-1.2.el4.rf.noarch.rpm | 23:40 |
| jiggie | erl(IO::Socket::SSL) is needed by perl-Net-Lite-XMMP-0.02-1.2.el4.rf.noarch | 23:42 |
| jiggie | just 1 | 23:42 |
| jiggie | good | 23:42 |
| jiggie | still looking for more packages | 23:44 |
| +crythias | http://rpmfind.net/linux/rpm2html/search.php?query=perl-IO-Socket-SSL&submit=Search+...&system=&arch= | 23:46 |
| +crythias | http://rpmfind.net//linux/RPM/dag/redhat/el4/i386/perl-IO-Socket-SSL-0.96-1.2.el4.rf.noarch.html | 23:47 |
| jiggie | :perl-Net-XMPP is installed | 23:47 |
| jiggie | soap lite is needed | 23:48 |
| jiggie | and that needs jabber | 23:48 |
| +crythias | ftp://fr2.rpmfind.net/linux/dag/redhat/el4/en/i386/dag/RPMS/perl-Net-Jabber-2.0-1.2.el4.rf.noarch.rpm | 23:49 |
| jiggie | done those two | 23:49 |
| jiggie | lol | 23:49 |
| jiggie | now datetime | 23:49 |
| jiggie | thanks for the help | 23:49 |
| +crythias | ftp://rpmfind.net/linux/dag/redhat/el4/en/i386/dag/RPMS/perl-DateTime-0.2901-1.2.el4.rf.i386.rpm | 23:50 |
| +crythias | now, if you package all these rpms in a nice big bundle, :) | 23:50 |
| jiggie | lol | 23:50 |
| +crythias | next? | 23:51 |
| jiggie | now it needs erl(DateTime::Locale) is needed by perl-DateTime-0.2901-1.1.el3.rf.i386 | 23:51 |
| jiggie | perl(DateTime::TimeZone) is needed by perl-DateTime-0.2901-1.1.el3.rf.i386 | 23:51 |
| jiggie | perl(Params::Validate) is needed by perl-DateTime-0.2901-1.1.el3.rf.i386 | 23:51 |
| jiggie | lol | 23:51 |
| +crythias | ftp://rpmfind.net/linux/dag/redhat/el4/en/i386/dag/RPMS/perl-DateTime-Locale-0.22-1.2.el4.rf.i386.rpm | 23:51 |
| +crythias | ftp://rpmfind.net/linux/dag/redhat/el4/en/i386/dag/RPMS/perl-DateTime-TimeZone-0.46-1.el4.rf.i386.rpm | 23:52 |
| +crythias | ftp://rpmfind.net/linux/dag/redhat/el4/en/i386/dag/RPMS/perl-Params-Validate-0.84-1.el4.rf.i386.rpm | 23:52 |
| jiggie | still lots more | 23:53 |
| jiggie | crap | 23:53 |
| jiggie | not so easy afterall | 23:53 |
| +crythias | doesn't RPM have some get dependencies flag? | 23:53 |
| jiggie | will check | 23:54 |
| * crythias is loving hist FreeBSD more and more each day. | 23:54 | |
| jiggie | lol | 23:56 |
| jiggie | rpm -i software-2.3.4.rpm --nodeps but that just ignores dependesies | 23:56 |
| +crythias | I gotta go. you have a source to look them up, though. hint: you might put i386 in the architecture box to narrow your searches. | 23:57 |
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| jiggie | i dont see a command to download the dependent files | 00:01 |
| jiggie | thanks | 00:01 |
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| dorel__ | hey | 11:19 |
| Radix-wrk | hiya | 11:19 |
| dorel__ | whats webgui? :P | 11:30 |
| Radix-wrk | www.plainblack.com/webgui | 11:34 |
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| dorel__ | cool | 12:18 |
| dorel__ | does webgui have templates and such? | 12:18 |
| xdanger | of course... | 12:21 |
| xdanger | it has everything =) | 12:21 |
| xdanger | well almost | 12:21 |
| xdanger | try out: demo.plainblack.com | 12:21 |
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| jiggie | back | 15:21 |
| xdanger | chansen: I tested (with ab) that the $r->sendfile(); did serve as much request as the current redirect, but the redirect does also another request to actually get the file. | 15:36 |
| xdanger | do you know some easy to use benchmark that would follow redirects ? | 15:36 |
| jiggie | brb | 15:59 |
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| jiggie | sup people | 16:19 |
| jiggie | having this problem httpd failed. The error was: Starting httpd: Syntax error on line 191 of /etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf: | 16:19 |
| jiggie | Cannot load /etc/httpd/modules/mod_apreq2.so into server: /etc/httpd/modules/mod_apreq2.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory | 16:19 |
| jiggie | [FAILED] | 16:19 |
| jiggie | anyone | 16:19 |
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| +crythias | snapcoun1 | 17:16 |
| snapcoun1 | yes | 17:16 |
| +crythias | you sen matt? | 17:16 |
| +crythias | seen | 17:16 |
| snapcoun1 | priv message | 17:17 |
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| +crythias | ack. your theme killed | 17:24 |
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| +crythias | pango is crashing | 17:25 |
| +crythias | don't know what it means but your theme kills gaim | 17:25 |
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| Dforge | Hello, I'm trying to move a webgui 5.5.8 site to a new host and I'm getting a error when trying to edit the content of a page. "[Thu Jun 08 12:29:46 2006] [error] 3027: ModPerl::Registry: Can't call method "header" on an undefined value at /www/htdocs/WebGUI/lib/WebGUI/Session.pm line 325.!" | 21:45 |
| Dforge | The host is running Centos 3.7 (RHEL 3.0) | 21:46 |
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| xdanger | snapcoun1: are you here? | 02:42 |
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| DforgeH | YHello | 02:55 |
| DforgeH | I need some help with the error "ModPerl::Registry: Can't call method "header" on an undefined value at /www/htdocs/WebGUI/lib/WebGUI/Session.pm line 325.!" | 03:06 |
| DforgeH | It looks like return $session{cgi}->header.. is null | 03:19 |
| DforgeH | ', endDate='2082801600', title='What is EntConnect?', groupIdView='7', startDate='946728000', ownerId='3', lastEdited=1149791572, editedBy=27 where wobjectId=1 : Unknown column 'templateId' in 'field list' | 03:37 |
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| snapcoun1 | someone rang | 03:51 |
| snapcoun1 | xdanger: ping | 03:51 |
| DforgeH | hello | 03:54 |
| xdanger | snapcoun1: just wondering that is there any point in reporting 6.8 bugs? | 04:06 |
| xdanger | And just got a very strange situation on my 6.8... | 04:07 |
| Radix-wrk | navigation stuff not appearing for some users? | 04:08 |
| xdanger | the db reverted to a fresh one, on it's one... | 04:08 |
| xdanger | no, a formhelper operation bug | 04:08 |
| xdanger | or a typo | 04:08 |
| Radix-wrk | ahh.. oh well.. was hoping for more reports of the bug I've encountered :) | 04:08 |
| xdanger | what's that? | 04:09 |
| Radix-wrk | http://www.plainblack.com/bugs/tracker/navigation-issues | 04:09 |
| xdanger | your bug I mean... | 04:09 |
| Radix-wrk | Just submitted it then - been frantically looking at our setup the last few days, but another user reported it on the forums - so I've determined it's not just us affected | 04:10 |
| xdanger | is this on 6.8.10 ? | 04:12 |
| Radix-wrk | yeah | 04:12 |
| xdanger | nice... | 04:12 |
| xdanger | if it really happened on it's own... | 04:12 |
| Radix-wrk | got users who can't see the areas they should be able to, and employees who can't see the navigation tree at all for our intranet | 04:12 |
| xdanger | maybe some custom template was placed in the trash, after expiring.. | 04:13 |
| xdanger | I had that problem | 04:13 |
| snapcoun1 | xdanger: depends | 04:13 |
| Radix-wrk | I can't delete the trash on this setup | 04:13 |
| snapcoun1 | if they still exist in 6.99 | 04:13 |
| snapcoun1 | then yes | 04:13 |
| xdanger | snapcoun1: nope... this was in the browse for asset form function helper operation =) | 04:14 |
| xdanger | that has changed totally in 6.99 | 04:14 |
| Radix-wrk | if I use runhourly to delete trash then the whole site goes crazy.. random stuff gets deleted | 04:14 |
| snapcoun1 | JT plans on 7 being stable on 7/1 | 04:14 |
| xdanger | You propably have the same problem that I did... content expiring.. | 04:15 |
| snapcoun1 | so I doubt there will be another 6.x release | 04:15 |
| Radix-wrk | fingers crossed :) | 04:15 |
| Radix-wrk | xdanger: any fix for that that I can test then? | 04:15 |
| xdanger | in some 6.x version the content created it had a default of 1year of expiretime | 04:15 |
| xdanger | edit brach the whole site and set the endDate to 2036 =) | 04:16 |
| xdanger | dont test in production server =) | 04:16 |
| Radix-wrk | Hmm.. might try it on a virtual machine setup then to test it out | 04:16 |
| snapcoun1 | or at the very least back the db up first | 04:16 |
| Radix-wrk | yeah.. got virtualpc running a clone of our setup - it's great for testing | 04:17 |
| xdanger | snapcoun1: and jfyi: | 04:17 |
| xdanger | 15:36 < xdanger> chansen: I tested (with ab) that the $r->sendfile(); did serve as much request as the current redirect, but the redirect does also another request to actually get the file. | 04:17 |
| xdanger | 15:36 < xdanger> do you know some easy to use benchmark that would follow redirects ? | 04:17 |
| DforgeH | Hrm... for some reason the sql database process to get my site to 5.5.8 (Before getting it to 6) didn't add the templateId field for wobject. | 04:17 |
| xdanger | the sendfile method isn't that slow after all.. | 04:17 |
| snapcoun1 | that's cool | 04:18 |
| xdanger | just don't have enough time to do proper testing | 04:18 |
| DforgeH | Hrm... It's missing the templateID column | 04:19 |
| snapcoun1 | are you following the upgrade path in gotcha.txt | 04:20 |
| DforgeH | I'm picking up the peices from someone else | 04:21 |
| snapcoun1 | you can't go from 5 straight to 6.8 | 04:21 |
| DforgeH | let me check | 04:21 |
| DforgeH | I know, I'm trying to go to 5.5.8 first | 04:21 |
| snapcoun1 | oh ok | 04:21 |
| xdanger | snapcoun1: but I'm really worried about the db of one of my sites reverting to a clean one (askin for a new admin & company info) | 04:21 |
| snapcoun1 | common mistake so I thought I'd throw it out there =) | 04:21 |
| DforgeH | :) I appreciate it. | 04:21 |
| DforgeH | It's working... mostly... | 04:21 |
| DforgeH | editing fails. | 04:21 |
| snapcoun1 | xdanger: what?! | 04:21 |
| snapcoun1 | the whole db? | 04:22 |
| DforgeH | YAY! | 04:22 |
| DforgeH | Worked | 04:22 |
| snapcoun1 | or it is showing you the config screen? | 04:22 |
| snapcoun1 | big diff | 04:22 |
| snapcoun1 | are you saying that all of your content disappeared and was replaced by the wG default content? | 04:23 |
| DforgeH | Just grepped through the upgrade scripts and found the missing table alter step. | 04:23 |
| xdanger | I earlier today installed a new site on my webgui server, did some snippeds and remover the default content and was setting a new "home" and "file not found" pages, and after that the deleted content was back, and the new content gone.. | 04:23 |
| snapcoun1 | do you have pending version tags? | 04:24 |
| xdanger | nope | 04:24 |
| snapcoun1 | did you commit your changes I mean? | 04:24 |
| xdanger | clean there also | 04:24 |
| xdanger | auto commit on | 04:24 |
| snapcoun1 | wow | 04:24 |
| snapcoun1 | this is in 6.8.10? | 04:24 |
| xdanger | the bug that I discovered reletes to setting the home/filenotfound pages, we'll the form.. | 04:25 |
| xdanger | return _outputWrapper($i18n->get('choose an asset',$output)); | 04:25 |
| xdanger | should be return _outputWrapper($i18n->get('choose an asset'),$output); | 04:25 |
| xdanger | in Operation/FormHelpers.pm | 04:25 |
| xdanger | yep... | 04:25 |
| xdanger | 6.8.10 | 04:25 |
| snapcoun1 | yeah... extra ) will fsck stuff real nice | 04:26 |
| snapcoun1 | misplaced rather | 04:26 |
| snapcoun1 | I did that the other day and it took me an hour to figure out wth was going on | 04:26 |
| snapcoun1 | no syntax error so it was fun | 04:26 |
| xdanger | that wasn't easy to find also.. | 04:27 |
| snapcoun1 | those are some of the hardest | 04:27 |
| snapcoun1 | b/c you read what *should* be there in your mind | 04:27 |
| snapcoun1 | kind of like placing missing words in a sentence as you read | 04:27 |
| xdanger | that tryies to run the whole output as a parameter to i18n =P | 04:27 |
| snapcoun1 | nice | 04:28 |
| xdanger | some nasty error in logs =) | 04:28 |
| snapcoun1 | I bet | 04:28 |
| xdanger | ::I18N->{'choose an asset'}{message} because syntax error at (eval 1869) line 1, near "$WebGUI::i18n::English::pa href" | 04:28 |
| xdanger | that was the one that guided me to the right place.. | 04:28 |
| xdanger | I'm just amazed that no one has bumped into this before | 04:29 |
| xdanger | cuz the whole form of browsing the asset tree in popup isn't workin.. | 04:29 |
| snapcoun1 | it's surprising what gets missed | 04:30 |
| snapcoun1 | try saving some settings in a 7.x site for example =) | 04:30 |
| xdanger | also, later.. I savet the setting (changin the home&404 pages again) I get asket for admin & company info again.. | 04:31 |
| xdanger | but this time my info was in them.. | 04:31 |
| xdanger | I'm just worried that some user might reset my admin password =/ | 04:32 |
| xdanger | But, waiting on 7.0 =) | 04:35 |
| xdanger | now some sleep... | 04:36 |
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| Rad | xdanger: you said that it might be content expiring and to set the endDate - where is that stored in the database if I wanted to change it? | 05:26 |
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| Rad | Ahh.. in assetData it looks like | 05:27 |
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| Rad | yeah, half the Import Node hierarchy is set to end on 2005 | 05:39 |
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| +perlDreamer | will the real snapoun* please stand up? | 05:45 |
| snapcoun2 | hello | 06:28 |
| snapcoun2 | been fighting w/ BrightHouse | 06:28 |
| snapcoun2 | I'm loosing | 06:28 |
| +perlDreamer | what is BrightHouse? | 06:28 |
| snapcoun2 | ISP | 06:28 |
| +perlDreamer | oy | 06:29 |
| snapcoun2 | owned by Time Warner | 06:29 |
| +perlDreamer | is there a #webgui on EFNet? | 06:29 |
| snapcoun2 | well, there should be | 06:29 |
| snapcoun2 | actually what the brighthouse problem is | 06:29 |
| snapcoun2 | I have two cable modems | 06:29 |
| snapcoun2 | and hence | 06:29 |
| snapcoun2 | two public ip addresses | 06:29 |
| snapcoun2 | one of them is not getting an ip | 06:29 |
| snapcoun2 | and the 'technicians' are highly confused that two cable modems exist in one residence | 06:30 |
| +perlDreamer | snapcoun2: needs more bandwidth | 06:30 |
| snapcoun2 | I actually want to play with that | 06:30 |
| snapcoun2 | one more nic in my linux gateway machine and some iptables magic | 06:31 |
| snapcoun2 | maybe I can get 15Mbps | 06:31 |
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| @snapcount | so did you check out my Survey fix | 06:32 |
| +perlDreamer | I read it, and it looks better | 06:32 |
| +perlDreamer | but I don't think there are any translations of it yet | 06:32 |
| +perlDreamer | so I can't test it | 06:32 |
| @snapcount | so you feel all warm and fuzzy now =P | 06:32 |
| @snapcount | I am actually a little nervous about it | 06:33 |
| +perlDreamer | oh yes | 06:33 |
| +perlDreamer | eeek! kittens! | 06:33 |
| @snapcount | I might have to face The Godfather's rath | 06:33 |
| @snapcount | wrath | 06:33 |
| +perlDreamer | His rath might be easier | 06:34 |
| +perlDreamer | to face | 06:34 |
| @snapcount | my fix altered the db schema | 06:34 |
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| +perlDreamer | you fixed a bug | 06:34 |
| @snapcount | which !compatible | 06:34 |
| @snapcount | it breaks compatibility though | 06:34 |
| +perlDreamer | there's an upgrade script to handle it | 06:34 |
| @snapcount | that's true | 06:35 |
| @snapcount | duh | 06:35 |
| @snapcount | wth am I thinking | 06:35 |
| @snapcount | it's not like the schema can never change | 06:35 |
| * perlDreamer and snappy are too hard on ourselves | 06:35 | |
| @snapcount | I have gotten pretty good with ldap over the past couple days | 06:35 |
| @snapcount | I'm happy about that | 06:35 |
| +perlDreamer | really? | 06:35 |
| @snapcount | yeah | 06:36 |
| @snapcount | I cleaned up a lot of the Auth/LDAP code | 06:36 |
| +perlDreamer | Do you know how to suck out all the users in a given LDAP group? | 06:36 |
| @snapcount | yep | 06:36 |
| +perlDreamer | Want to make JT's day? | 06:36 |
| * snapcount hesitates =) | 06:36 | |
| +perlDreamer | snapcount is hard on himself, but very wise ;) | 06:37 |
| +perlDreamer | here's the deal | 06:37 |
| +perlDreamer | I couldn't finish the great isInGroup work of 2006 because I don't know LDAP | 06:37 |
| +perlDreamer | we need a Group method to slurp all the users from an LDAP group | 06:37 |
| @snapcount | hmm | 06:38 |
| +perlDreamer | just like getDatabaseUsers et. al. | 06:38 |
| +perlDreamer | and, of course, it needs a set of tests | 06:38 |
| @snapcount | the problem is that it has to be configurable | 06:38 |
| @snapcount | the ldap part is easy | 06:38 |
| +perlDreamer | configurable how? | 06:38 |
| @snapcount | you build a search using a dn (starting point) and you need a filter to get the users you want | 06:38 |
| @snapcount | well, all groups would use the same base dn | 06:39 |
| @snapcount | that comes from the ldap connection in settings | 06:39 |
| @snapcount | the trick is the filter | 06:39 |
| @snapcount | I guess it could work like the RDN stuff | 06:39 |
| @snapcount | you need to be able to define the groupId attribute | 06:40 |
| @snapcount | is this making sense | 06:40 |
| @snapcount | ? | 06:40 |
| +perlDreamer | kind of | 06:40 |
| @snapcount | I think I'm rambling | 06:40 |
| @snapcount | let's try a diff way | 06:40 |
| +perlDreamer | isn't there a group field to hold that kind of stuff already? | 06:40 |
| @snapcount | I need to build this: | 06:40 |
| @snapcount | actually | 06:40 |
| @snapcount | damn | 06:41 |
| @snapcount | you need two settings | 06:41 |
| +perlDreamer | condemning things to eternal flame | 06:41 |
| +perlDreamer | 2 settings? | 06:42 |
| @snapcount | a base dn setting (for groupingroup) and a filter setting | 06:42 |
| +perlDreamer | do you need two settings in 6.8 to do the same thing? | 06:42 |
| @snapcount | does 6.8 do this already? | 06:42 |
| +perlDreamer | yes | 06:43 |
| @snapcount | really | 06:43 |
| @snapcount | I wonder how Frank did it and if it's as flexible as my idea | 06:43 |
| +perlDreamer | have a look at User.pm, line 282 in SVN head | 06:43 |
| +perlDreamer | now, that code checks that a particular user is in an LDAP group by some property. | 06:44 |
| +perlDreamer | what needs to be done is to slurp out _all_ users with that property | 06:44 |
| +perlDreamer | which should be the filter you're talking about | 06:44 |
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| +perlDreamer | Radix-wrk makes like an unlemming and implodes? | 06:46 |
| @snapcount | it's the combination of the two | 06:46 |
| @snapcount | an ldap dir is a tree structure | 06:47 |
| @snapcount | base dn is where to start | 06:47 |
| @snapcount | filter is like pruning from there down | 06:47 |
| Radix-wrk | yup.. I implode | 06:47 |
| @snapcount | to get all of them all we have to do | 06:48 |
| @snapcount | is tell it to start at the top of the tree | 06:48 |
| @snapcount | or base (if you consider it an upside down tree) | 06:48 |
| @snapcount | hence 'base dn' =) | 06:48 |
| @snapcount | so, let me look at the code again to put my ldif where my mouth is | 06:49 |
| +perlDreamer | $ldapLink->recurseProperty($group->get("ldapGroup"),$people,$group->get("ldapGroupProperty"),$group->get("ldapRecursiveProperty")); | 06:49 |
| +perlDreamer | that sounds like what you're talking about | 06:49 |
| +perlDreamer | ;) | 06:50 |
| @snapcount | looks like this method will do what you want | 06:53 |
| +perlDreamer | really? | 06:54 |
| +perlDreamer | cool | 06:54 |
| +perlDreamer | that just leaves testing then | 06:54 |
| +perlDreamer | is there any way to set up a small LDAP server via a perl module? | 06:54 |
| @snapcount | not that I'm aware | 06:55 |
| @snapcount | you could write the test though | 06:55 |
| @snapcount | and let the user set env vars to actually run it | 06:55 |
| @snapcount | (pointing to an ldap server) | 06:55 |
| @snapcount | but it's schema dependant | 06:55 |
| @snapcount | so that might be hard | 06:55 |
| +perlDreamer | yeah | 06:55 |
| @snapcount | you could include a sample schema and tell them to load it I suppose | 06:56 |
| @snapcount | there is a limitation in this method however | 06:57 |
| +perlDreamer | oh? | 06:57 |
| @snapcount | it will start dropping group members | 06:57 |
| @snapcount | starting with number 100 | 06:57 |
| @snapcount | there is a failsafe to prevent infinite recursion | 06:57 |
| @snapcount | it needs to be over-rideable | 06:57 |
| @snapcount | from the method call | 06:58 |
| +perlDreamer | so that you could have a bunch of LDAP users | 06:58 |
| @snapcount | for this you'd probably want to pass a -1 and disable that check | 06:58 |
| +perlDreamer | you'd still like to disable infinite recursion | 06:58 |
| @snapcount | well, it's kind of silly | 06:59 |
| +perlDreamer | but it should be settable, either in the Group or LDAP setups | 06:59 |
| @snapcount | it can't happen that I can see | 06:59 |
| @snapcount | I mean it's running a search on the ldap server using Net::LDAP | 06:59 |
| @snapcount | the number of itterations == number search results | 06:59 |
| +perlDreamer | sounds like a bug needs to be submitted | 07:00 |
| +perlDreamer | but it must not be a big thing among current LDAP users, otherwise they'd have found it by now | 07:00 |
| @snapcount | I need to study this | 07:03 |
| +perlDreamer | okay | 07:04 |
| @snapcount | I can do it tommorow | 07:04 |
| +perlDreamer | When you're done, close the bug for it on the board. | 07:04 |
| +perlDreamer | That will make JT's day | 07:04 |
| +perlDreamer | In the meantime, I'll keep hacking template variables | 07:04 |
| @snapcount | do you think you could make a 6.99.3 site with a survey that has a few sections | 07:05 |
| @snapcount | then upgrade it | 07:05 |
| @snapcount | to make sure my upgrade sub works | 07:05 |
| +perlDreamer | I can do that | 07:05 |
| +perlDreamer | I think ;) | 07:05 |
| @snapcount | it's the only thing I didn't test | 07:05 |
| @snapcount | all the upgrade does is find the sectionId of the section named "none" and store it in the Survey table as defaultSectionId | 07:06 |
| @snapcount | pretty simple but rather be safe | 07:06 |
| +perlDreamer | is there a schedule for .4 yet? | 07:10 |
| +perlDreamer | I mean 6.99.4? | 07:11 |
| +perlDreamer | Here's what I got: | 07:17 |
| +perlDreamer | DBD::mysql::st execute failed: Unknown column 'assetId' in 'where clause' at ../../lib/WebGUI/SQL/ResultSet.pm line 122. | 07:17 |
| +perlDreamer | snapcount: I think I can fix this, do you want me to? | 07:20 |
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| +perlDreamer | snapcount: you're getting schizo | 07:21 |
| +perlDreamer | either that, or I need new glasses | 07:21 |
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| +perlDreamer | snapcoun1: did you get any of the last several messages? | 07:22 |
| +perlDreamer | snapcoun1: ping | 07:39 |
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| Radix-wrk | Have a good weekend everyone.. I'm outta here :) | 11:07 |
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| chansen | xdanger: sorry, was AFK | 14:25 |
| chansen | xdanger: not sure what you mean, can you elaborate? | 14:25 |
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| walaki | hi folks | 15:17 |
| walaki | how can I log out a user after a he submits a form? | 15:19 |
| walaki | could somebody help me with this, please? | 15:19 |
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| walaki | anybody here? | 21:01 |
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| walaki | everybody's partying? | 02:08 |
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| walaki | hi Radix-wrk | 04:38 |
| Radix-wrk | mornin' | 04:42 |
| walaki | it depends where you live (o:, it's 3:47 am here | 04:47 |
| walaki | son I can call it morning | 04:47 |
| walaki | could you help me, please? | 04:48 |
| walaki | how can I log out a user after a he submits a form? | 04:48 |
| Radix-wrk | send him to the url "?op=auth;method=logout" once he's submitted it. | 05:12 |
| walaki | $self->getUrl('func=op=auth;method=logout'); | 05:27 |
| walaki | this is the url, right? | 05:27 |
| walaki | but how can I send him? | 05:28 |
| Radix-wrk | I don't know :( I don't use the webgui form handler much myself - and use another one that we've used for years to do our form processing called bformmail. | 05:40 |
| walaki | tx | 06:06 |
| walaki | any idea?I just need to log out the user, after the form data has been saved | 06:06 |
| walaki | reason is not to allow him to press the back button and screw things up | 06:07 |
| walaki | it is good or even in the from souce code or anything | 06:08 |
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| walaki | hello | 17:14 |
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| walaki | hello | 17:58 |
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| Jiggie | hey guis | 23:21 |
| Jiggie | guys | 23:21 |
| Jiggie | i'm deperate to try to get this webgui working | 23:21 |
| Jiggie | running fedora core 5 | 23:21 |
| Jiggie | apache2 perl module error | 23:21 |
| Jiggie | needs libapr | 23:22 |
| walaki | hey | 23:30 |
| walaki | although I can't help you it is good to see someone here | 23:31 |
| walaki | the gurus are not paying attention here, I am waiting for them also, and I am waiting for sooooo long | 23:34 |
| walaki | you want to install from source or the WRE? | 23:35 |
| Jiggie | source | 23:42 |
| Jiggie | using fc 5 | 23:42 |
| Jiggie | its just one dependency over another | 23:42 |
| Jiggie | these people should inclued all this crap on the download | 23:42 |
| Jiggie | walaki so where are you stuck | 23:43 |
| walaki | I am not installing it, I make code modifications to the survey modul to mak | 23:44 |
| walaki | to the survey modul's quiz mode, to make it point based, instead of correct/wrong answer based | 23:46 |
| walaki | I'm using old stable under a virtual machine with win2k | 23:46 |
| Jiggie | ohh | 23:46 |
| walaki | windows-zip-n-go worked lin a minute or so | 23:47 |
| Jiggie | i gopt it running under windows | 23:47 |
| Jiggie | thats easy | 23:47 |
| Jiggie | linux is the problem | 23:47 |
| walaki | there is a WRE for linux, it's like the zip-n-go under win, but I haven't tried it | 23:47 |
| Jiggie | i know | 23:48 |
| Jiggie | but source you learn from building it | 23:48 |
| walaki | but it's very possible, that you need additional perl modules from cpan | 23:48 |
| Jiggie | wre is just too window slike | 23:48 |
| Jiggie | yep thats the problem | 23:48 |
| Jiggie | its building some and some does not work | 23:48 |
| Jiggie | weird | 23:48 |
| Jiggie | why can they just have 1 module with everything included | 23:48 |
| walaki | there's reason I suppose (o: | 23:49 |
| walaki | are you in cms biz? | 23:49 |
| Jiggie | nope | 23:50 |
| Jiggie | but the company i started to work for has the intranet and website made with this perl stuff | 23:51 |
| Jiggie | and now they want me to upgrade from a very old version to the new one they purchase | 23:51 |
| walaki | which new one? the stable is not here yet! | 23:55 |
| Jiggie | 6.8 | 23:58 |
| Jiggie | the old version is 6.2 | 23:58 |
| Jiggie | i think | 23:58 |
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| Jiggie | bb tomorrow | 00:04 |
| walaki | that's not so old | 00:06 |
| walaki | I think I would wait for the new stable, it's really close | 00:07 |
| walaki | which time zone are you? | 00:08 |
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| walaki | silence of the octopuses? | 13:07 |
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| xdanger | martin, what's the weather like in holland? | 14:31 |
| +MrHairgrease | 30 degrees or so | 14:32 |
| +MrHairgrease | www.knmi.nl | 14:32 |
| xdanger | here it's only 25 or something like that | 14:32 |
| xdanger | but this is our first summer in our new office, and I have to say that things are going to be warm this summer... | 14:33 |
| +MrHairgrease | that's pretty hot for finland right? | 14:33 |
| xdanger | our summer isn't as cold as the winter ;) | 14:34 |
| +MrHairgrease | our office is also 'cooled' by open windows. | 14:34 |
| xdanger | it's normally around 20 degrees... | 14:34 |
| xdanger | http://www.fmi.fi/ | 14:34 |
| xdanger | just would like to go to the beach and drink some beer or cider =) | 14:36 |
| * MrHairgrease sips from his coffee | 14:36 | |
| xdanger | a question... How have you (if you have) done multi-lingual sites? | 14:37 |
| xdanger | a different root or a different webgui for different languages? | 14:37 |
| +MrHairgrease | yes | 14:41 |
| +MrHairgrease | and use apache rewrite rules to redirect | 14:41 |
| +MrHairgrease | so | 14:41 |
| +MrHairgrease | rewrite mycompany.com -> mycompany.com/en | 14:42 |
| +MrHairgrease | mycompany.nl -> mycompany.nl/nl | 14:42 |
| +MrHairgrease | however | 14:42 |
| +MrHairgrease | rewriterules used to fuck up in 6.8 | 14:42 |
| +MrHairgrease | I dunno if that's still the case | 14:43 |
| xdanger | so different root, or different webgui? :) | 14:43 |
| +MrHairgrease | it has to do with the fact that the wg handler is in an earlier apachecyclestage that the mod_rwrite handler | 14:43 |
| +MrHairgrease | so the uri is fetched before it is rewritten | 14:43 |
| +MrHairgrease | and wg doesn't take it into account | 14:44 |
| +MrHairgrease | different root | 14:44 |
| +MrHairgrease | same webgui | 14:44 |
| xdanger | we'll I can do that with mod_proxy.. | 14:44 |
| +MrHairgrease | prolly yes | 14:44 |
| +MrHairgrease | let me know how it works out | 14:44 |
| xdanger | I was thinking of using a different webgui, that way I get the right language 404 page, and errors.. | 14:45 |
| xdanger | since there isn't a "language" column in assets =) | 14:45 |
| +MrHairgrease | yeah | 14:45 |
| xdanger | (and that would be a great idea ;)) | 14:45 |
| +MrHairgrease | but you also have to duplicate collateral users groups | 14:45 |
| +MrHairgrease | etc | 14:45 |
| +MrHairgrease | two diffrent webgui instances for the same site is a bad idea imho | 14:46 |
| xdanger | That's now a problem, since there is something like 4 admins that have to be in the both.. | 14:46 |
| +MrHairgrease | language fields in the assettree have a lot of impact | 14:47 |
| xdanger | how would JT react to a request for a langeuge info for an asset? =) | 14:47 |
| +MrHairgrease | it's noteasy as you would think at first | 14:47 |
| xdanger | I know | 14:47 |
| +MrHairgrease | you can do that | 14:47 |
| +MrHairgrease | but I think I know his answer =) | 14:47 |
| xdanger | I think this was talked about in the dev-list few years ago =( | 14:47 |
| xdanger | But since wg is much more modular these days, it could be done more easily | 14:48 |
| +MrHairgrease | yeah | 14:49 |
| +MrHairgrease | but it is still very difficult | 14:49 |
| xdanger | maybe override something in session =) | 14:49 |
| +MrHairgrease | especially since we have versioning now | 14:49 |
| xdanger | based on the assets language | 14:49 |
| xdanger | that too... | 14:50 |
| xdanger | Hmm.. I'll have to do some research about this =P | 14:52 |
| Jiggie | ok back | 16:14 |
| Jiggie | morning people | 16:15 |
| +MrHairgrease | hi | 16:15 |
| +MrHairgrease | good afternoon | 16:16 |
| Jiggie | its 9 am | 16:16 |
| +MrHairgrease | no it's 3pm | 16:16 |
| +MrHairgrease | you must be confused =) | 16:16 |
| Jiggie | lo | 16:17 |
| Jiggie | time | 16:17 |
| Jiggie | NY time | 16:17 |
| Jiggie | where can i download wrebuild-x.x.x-prereqs.tar.gz | 16:18 |
| +MrHairgrease | sf.net? | 16:18 |
| +MrHairgrease | sf.net/projects/pbwebgui that is | 16:18 |
| +MrHairgrease | click on files somewhere on the page | 16:18 |
| Jiggie | ok | 16:20 |
| Jiggie | i'm giving up installing from source | 16:21 |
| Jiggie | too many dependencies with perl | 16:21 |
| Jiggie | so gonna install wre on fedora core 5 | 16:21 |
| xdanger | perl dependencies are not that hard... | 16:22 |
| +MrHairgrease | libapreq can suck very hard | 16:22 |
| xdanger | we'll that | 16:23 |
| xdanger | but the others ;) | 16:23 |
| +MrHairgrease | it can be a pain | 16:24 |
| +MrHairgrease | however i have done it so often that i can almost dream it | 16:24 |
| xdanger | haven't tried... | 16:24 |
| +MrHairgrease | bad nightmares =) | 16:24 |
| xdanger | what's the catch? | 16:24 |
| xdanger | http://ascii-wm.net/ | 16:24 |
| Jiggie | so why not provide a link to a how to | 16:26 |
| Jiggie | cause every time i get one , it dependos on another one | 16:26 |
| Jiggie | too much of a hassle | 16:26 |
| +MrHairgrease | maybe I'll make an howto some day | 16:26 |
| Jiggie | and the cpan crap does not always buiild it cause its miussing some other crap | 16:26 |
| +MrHairgrease | but right now I'm too busy | 16:26 |
| +MrHairgrease | unfortunately | 16:26 |
| Jiggie | someday soon pls | 16:26 |
| +MrHairgrease | I might add that we compile a brand new apache/perl/imagemagick/etc for each seperate wg instance we have | 16:27 |
| +MrHairgrease | so we do not interact too much with the os | 16:28 |
| +MrHairgrease | and the stuff it installs | 16:28 |
| +MrHairgrease | only some libs of course | 16:28 |
| Jiggie | if i can be of any help | 16:29 |
| Jiggie | i have fedora core 5 and rhES 4 | 16:29 |
| Jiggie | and they both require a shit load of stuff | 16:29 |
| +MrHairgrease | I think or servers run gentoo | 16:29 |
| Jiggie | now i'm at the apache2 perl module needed | 16:29 |
| +MrHairgrease | but I'm not 100% sure | 16:29 |
| Jiggie | i updated everything using yum and still | 16:30 |
| +MrHairgrease | libapreq? | 16:30 |
| +MrHairgrease | ah | 16:30 |
| Jiggie | yep | 16:30 |
| Jiggie | that needs something to install let me try again | 16:30 |
| Jiggie | maybe you can help | 16:30 |
| +MrHairgrease | I never tried to do it trhough package management stuff | 16:30 |
| +MrHairgrease | so no | 16:30 |
| +MrHairgrease | unfortunately | 16:30 |
| Jiggie | well i downlaod the perl modules manually and install one by one | 16:30 |
| Jiggie | when it ask | 16:30 |
| +MrHairgrease | I would try through the wre | 16:30 |
| +MrHairgrease | asks what? | 16:31 |
| Jiggie | he perl module Apache2::Request | 16:31 |
| Jiggie | i need that | 16:31 |
| +MrHairgrease | If you compile it by hand you need to pass it some params | 16:31 |
| +MrHairgrease | It doesn't work using cpan directly | 16:32 |
| +MrHairgrease | it sucks | 16:32 |
| Jiggie | here is what i get | 16:32 |
| Jiggie | configure: error: C preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check | 16:32 |
| Jiggie | how can i fix that | 16:32 |
| +MrHairgrease | no idea | 16:32 |
| Jiggie | lol | 16:32 |
| +MrHairgrease | never saw that error | 16:32 |
| +MrHairgrease | have you googled for it? | 16:32 |
| Jiggie | this is a fresh install of fedora | 16:32 |
| Jiggie | yep | 16:32 |
| Jiggie | compiler error | 16:32 |
| +MrHairgrease | You might try goin to the ~/.cpan/build/libapreq-etcetcetc | 16:36 |
| +MrHairgrease | directory | 16:36 |
| +MrHairgrease | then do something like ./configure --help | 16:36 |
| +MrHairgrease | and fill in most of the paths to you compiler and stuff | 16:37 |
| +MrHairgrease | using the commandline options | 16:37 |
| Jiggie | this is what i think i need glibc-devel-2.4-8 | 16:37 |
| +MrHairgrease | maybe | 16:37 |
| +MrHairgrease | I can't tell | 16:37 |
| +MrHairgrease | It's a shame but I'm not a system guru =) | 16:38 |
| Jiggie | i'm | 16:38 |
| Jiggie | an expert on breaking them | 16:38 |
| +MrHairgrease | hey, me too! | 16:38 |
| Jiggie | we can make tons of money | 16:38 |
| Jiggie | glibc-devel-2.4-8.i386.rpm is already installed | 16:38 |
| Jiggie | shit | 16:39 |
| Jiggie | when i istall it using the rpm manager it says its installed | 16:41 |
| Jiggie | when i do it command line it needs glib-headers | 16:41 |
| Jiggie | Checking for module Apache2::Request: Not Installed | 16:42 |
| Jiggie | crap | 16:42 |
| +MrHairgrease | are you sure it needs glib headers? | 16:43 |
| +MrHairgrease | it prolly also need mod_perl headers | 16:43 |
| +MrHairgrease | apache header files etc | 16:43 |
| Jiggie | Please tell me where I can find your apache src | 16:43 |
| Jiggie | thats what its asking for now | 16:44 |
| Jiggie | lol | 16:44 |
| Jiggie | after i installed the lib-headers | 16:44 |
| Jiggie | no more compiler error | 16:44 |
| Jiggie | its doing a make | 16:44 |
| +MrHairgrease | I don't think it needs the source | 16:44 |
| +MrHairgrease | only header files | 16:44 |
| Jiggie | mod_perl-1.29 | 16:44 |
| Jiggie | it seems to be working now | 16:45 |
| Jiggie | wohoo | 16:45 |
| Jiggie | doing some giverish stuff | 16:45 |
| +MrHairgrease | do not install mod[perl 1.29 !!!! | 16:45 |
| +MrHairgrease | you need m_p 2 | 16:45 |
| +MrHairgrease | you should specify --with-apxs=/my/apache/bin/apxs | 16:46 |
| Jiggie | where can i ge mod perl 2 | 16:50 |
| Jiggie | i'm very tired of looking around | 16:50 |
| +MrHairgrease | you need a package like apache-mod-perl-2.x | 16:50 |
| +MrHairgrease | dunno what the rpm is called in fedora | 16:50 |
| +MrHairgrease | just search for mod_perl | 16:51 |
| +MrHairgrease | or mod-perl | 16:51 |
| +MrHairgrease | or apache perl | 16:51 |
| +MrHairgrease | or something else =) | 16:51 |
| Jiggie | ok | 16:52 |
| Jiggie | Name : mod_perl | 16:57 |
| Jiggie | Version : 2.0.2 Vendor : Red Hat, Inc_ | 16:57 |
| Jiggie | Release : 5.1 | 16:57 |
| +MrHairgrease | that's the one | 16:57 |
| +MrHairgrease | now you might be able to install libapreq trhough yum | 16:57 |
| Jiggie | mod_perl-2.0.2-5.1.i386.rpm is already installed | 17:02 |
| Jiggie | weird | 17:02 |
| +MrHairgrease | ok | 17:02 |
| Jiggie | how do i do it using yum | 17:02 |
| Jiggie | just to make sure | 17:02 |
| Jiggie | error: package mod_perl-2.0.2-5.1.i386.rpm is not installed | 17:04 |
| Jiggie | lol | 17:04 |
| Jiggie | if i didnt hate windows | 17:04 |
| Jiggie | i would love it by now | 17:04 |
| +MrHairgrease | ha | 17:04 |
| Jiggie | all these linix crap | 17:04 |
| Jiggie | i miss my mac | 17:04 |
| +MrHairgrease | try installing it on windows | 17:04 |
| Jiggie | it works on windows | 17:04 |
| +MrHairgrease | that'll keep you busy for a looooong time | 17:05 |
| Jiggie | but i cant export the database to windows from linux | 17:05 |
| +MrHairgrease | really? | 17:05 |
| +MrHairgrease | why not? | 17:05 |
| Jiggie | dunno | 17:05 |
| Jiggie | thats what somebody here said | 17:05 |
| Jiggie | cause i had it owrking on windows | 17:05 |
| Jiggie | but then i told them the versions that i had and they said it would not work | 17:05 |
| Jiggie | because its too old | 17:05 |
| +MrHairgrease | well | 17:06 |
| +MrHairgrease | I'm not 100% sure | 17:06 |
| +MrHairgrease | but if you dump the db using mysqldump | 17:06 |
| +MrHairgrease | and insert it into your linux mysql | 17:06 |
| +MrHairgrease | using the mysql command | 17:06 |
| +MrHairgrease | i reckon it'll work | 17:06 |
| Jiggie | it should work | 17:06 |
| +MrHairgrease | yeah | 17:06 |
| Jiggie | not to worry | 17:06 |
| Jiggie | its gonna work on linux | 17:07 |
| Jiggie | it has too | 17:07 |
| Jiggie | also i'm learning this way | 17:07 |
| +MrHairgrease | heh | 17:08 |
| Jiggie | the windows way i didnt learn shit | 17:08 |
| +MrHairgrease | the glass is half full right? | 17:08 |
| +MrHairgrease | that's true | 17:08 |
| Jiggie | or half empty | 17:10 |
| Jiggie | APACHE_SRC | 17:38 |
| Jiggie | where is that | 17:38 |
| +MrHairgrease | that's an env variable right? | 17:38 |
| +MrHairgrease | you shouldn't need that | 17:39 |
| +MrHairgrease | did you install the mod_perl and apache header files? | 17:39 |
| Jiggie | mod perl is installed | 17:39 |
| Jiggie | apache header will check | 17:40 |
| +MrHairgrease | also | 17:42 |
| +MrHairgrease | try lib apache request through yum again | 17:42 |
| +MrHairgrease | it'll prolly save you trouble | 17:42 |
| +MrHairgrease | I dunno how well prcompiled apache/mod_perl goes together with manually libapreq2 | 17:43 |
| Jiggie | so do a yum search apache request | 17:46 |
| Jiggie | or what | 17:46 |
| +MrHairgrease | somthing like it | 17:48 |
| Jiggie | Missing Dependency: multiarch-utils is needed by package apache2-devel | 17:49 |
| Jiggie | Missing Dependency: perl-base is needed by package apache2-devel | 17:49 |
| Jiggie | Missing Dependency: autoconf2.5 is needed by package apache2-devel | 17:49 |
| Jiggie | Missing Dependency: automake1.7 is needed by package apache2-devel | 17:49 |
| Jiggie | lol | 17:49 |
| +MrHairgrease | =) | 17:50 |
| +MrHairgrease | linux: even more fun with a beer =) | 17:50 |
| Jiggie | i'm at work | 17:51 |
| Jiggie | so no beer for me | 17:51 |
| Jiggie | i never had problems with linux like this b4 | 17:51 |
| +MrHairgrease | yeah | 17:52 |
| +MrHairgrease | I know the feeling | 17:52 |
| Jiggie | installed 2 more dependencies | 17:58 |
| Jiggie | lol | 17:58 |
| Jiggie | libtool | 17:58 |
| Jiggie | lets see now | 17:58 |
| Jiggie | 1/3): autoconf-2.59-7.no 100% |=========================| 641 kB 00:04 | 17:58 |
| Jiggie | (2/3): automake-1.9.6-2.n 100% |=========================| 487 kB 00:03 | 17:58 |
| Jiggie | (3/3): libtool-1.5.22-2.3 100% |=========================| 678 kB 00:05 | 17:58 |
| Jiggie | where can i find ImageMagick | 18:15 |
| +MrHairgrease | package is called something like | 18:16 |
| +MrHairgrease | lib-perl-imagamagick | 18:16 |
| +MrHairgrease | prolly best to search for magick | 18:16 |
| Jiggie | libgvc.so.2 | 18:31 |
| Jiggie | need that to install imagemagik | 18:31 |
| Jiggie | hahaha | 18:31 |
| +MrHairgrease | if you say so | 18:31 |
| +MrHairgrease | don't you use yum for im? | 18:31 |
| Jiggie | i did | 18:32 |
| Jiggie | yum does not install image magik | 18:32 |
| Jiggie | now libpng12.so | 18:33 |
| Jiggie | lol | 18:33 |
| Jiggie | is only 1 | 18:33 |
| +MrHairgrease | heh | 18:33 |
| +MrHairgrease | have fun compiling | 18:33 |
| +MrHairgrease | don't forget to install freetype | 18:33 |
| +MrHairgrease | or you won't be able to have fonts | 18:33 |
| +MrHairgrease | which you need for capcha's and the ueber cool graphs | 18:34 |
| Jiggie | going to yum extender | 18:35 |
| Jiggie | and its updating | 18:35 |
| xdanger | MrHairgrease: could you help me with something... just to verify that I'm not stupid... | 18:42 |
| xdanger | we'll more stupid that I know.. | 18:42 |
| xdanger | If you have a navigation which does only include decentants, and you make it relative to root, it ignores the startpoint... thus includin decentant even if thei are "over" the startpoint? | 18:43 |
| +MrHairgrease | it should always ignore the startpoint | 18:45 |
| +MrHairgrease | if you want to include that select also self | 18:45 |
| +MrHairgrease | I guess | 18:45 |
| +MrHairgrease | =) | 18:45 |
| +MrHairgrease | long time since I really tried it | 18:45 |
| +MrHairgrease | I'll email you a presentation of mine about it | 18:46 |
| +MrHairgrease | what's your email? | 18:46 |
| xdanger | I wan't to ignore them =) | 18:47 |
| xdanger | jukka.raimovaara@axxion.fi | 18:47 |
| xdanger | I want to have one navigation that doesn't display pages under the home page, which is directly under root.. | 18:48 |
| xdanger | but it displaye desentants of thous pages when on one of thouse pages =) | 18:48 |
| +MrHairgrease | hmm | 18:48 |
| +MrHairgrease | starpoint: here | 18:49 |
| +MrHairgrease | descendants | 18:49 |
| +MrHairgrease | does that work for you | 18:49 |
| +MrHairgrease | ? | 18:49 |
| Jiggie | yum is installing a shitload of crap to satisfy dependencies | 18:49 |
| xdanger | yes, but then it'll include the desentants on the home page there... | 18:51 |
| xdanger | you'll get the point: http://beta.axxion.fi/home | 18:51 |
| +MrHairgrease | I do not understand | 18:52 |
| +MrHairgrease | You want this right | 18:52 |
| +MrHairgrease | the descendants of the page you're on | 18:52 |
| +MrHairgrease | right? | 18:52 |
| xdanger | yep, but not on the homepage... | 18:54 |
| xdanger | only after /1/2/* | 18:55 |
| xdanger | I could do a different style template for the frontpage, but I just thought that the startpoins should work the way I want to | 18:56 |
| +MrHairgrease | startpoints can be tricky | 18:59 |
| +MrHairgrease | you might try to set the startpoint to /home | 18:59 |
| +MrHairgrease | an use descendants | 18:59 |
| +MrHairgrease | with an offset of /a/ (+1) | 18:59 |
| +MrHairgrease | see the presentation I emailed you | 19:00 |
| +MrHairgrease | I contains very nice examples | 19:00 |
| xdanger | but again it will include /home/page[1-3] | 19:00 |
| xdanger | that's pretty much the opposite efect that I wan't to do =) | 19:01 |
| +MrHairgrease | you do not want to include /home/page[1-3]? | 19:01 |
| +MrHairgrease | i thought only /home | 19:01 |
| +MrHairgrease | in that case set the offset to /a/b/ | 19:02 |
| xdanger | that doesn't work | 19:02 |
| xdanger | desentants setting ignores the startpoint =) | 19:02 |
| xdanger | that's what I'm trying to say.. | 19:02 |
| xdanger | if your on /home I don't want it to include /home/page[1-3] | 19:03 |
| xdanger | but when your on /home/page1 I want it to include /home/page1/page[1-3] | 19:04 |
| +MrHairgrease | yeah I understand | 19:04 |
| +MrHairgrease | a moment | 19:04 |
| +MrHairgrease | I'll look it up | 19:04 |
| xdanger | I'm not so good in explaining myswlf in english =) | 19:04 |
| xdanger | s/mysqlf/myself/ | 19:04 |
| +MrHairgrease | i know =) | 19:06 |
| +MrHairgrease | ok | 19:06 |
| +MrHairgrease | what is your start point type? | 19:06 |
| xdanger | relative to root | 19:10 |
| xdanger | and if I set it to /a/b/c/d/e/f/g (+6) it still displaye the sameway | 19:10 |
| +MrHairgrease | oh | 19:10 |
| +MrHairgrease | set what to /a/b/c/d/e/f/g (? | 19:11 |
| +MrHairgrease | the descndant end point? | 19:11 |
| Jiggie | mod_perl-1.29 do i have to update that in order to run webgui on fc 5 | 19:12 |
| +MrHairgrease | 1.29 is NOT good | 19:13 |
| +MrHairgrease | you need two | 19:13 |
| Jiggie | thats what cpan uses | 19:13 |
| +MrHairgrease | m_p 2 that is | 19:13 |
| Jiggie | so how can i upgrade | 19:13 |
| +MrHairgrease | do you try to install Apache2::Request? | 19:13 |
| Jiggie | and make sure that cpan does not use that | 19:13 |
| Jiggie | thats what its doing right now | 19:13 |
| Jiggie | and its looking into that pod perl | 19:13 |
| +MrHairgrease | ok | 19:14 |
| +MrHairgrease | cancel | 19:14 |
| Jiggie | suggestions? | 19:14 |
| Jiggie | ok then waht | 19:14 |
| +MrHairgrease | go to ~/.cpan/build/lib-apache etc | 19:14 |
| +MrHairgrease | than do a ./configure --help | 19:14 |
| +MrHairgrease | and pass the correct parameters | 19:14 |
| +MrHairgrease | you prolly should do something like --with-apache2-apxs=/my/apache/in/apxs | 19:15 |
| Jiggie | so i should do that on a terminal.. | 19:15 |
| Jiggie | just to make sure | 19:15 |
| +MrHairgrease | yeah | 19:15 |
| +MrHairgrease | I you use cpan you must | 19:15 |
| Jiggie | ? | 19:15 |
| +MrHairgrease | you used cpan to install Apache2::Request right? | 19:16 |
| Jiggie | yeah | 19:16 |
| Jiggie | i ran perl testE.. | 19:16 |
| Jiggie | and it said apache:: requeste not installed | 19:16 |
| Jiggie | and it wanted to install | 19:16 |
| Jiggie | so i said yes | 19:16 |
| Jiggie | and its going | 19:16 |
| +MrHairgrease | ok | 19:16 |
| +MrHairgrease | but if it wants to install mod_perl 1.29 | 19:16 |
| +MrHairgrease | don't let it | 19:17 |
| +MrHairgrease | just cancel and do the stuff I just mentioned | 19:17 |
| +MrHairgrease | on a terminal | 19:17 |
| Jiggie | so i should fix it how exactly | 19:17 |
| +MrHairgrease | as root (probably) | 19:17 |
| Jiggie | ok | 19:17 |
| Jiggie | i'm root | 19:17 |
| +MrHairgrease | very good | 19:17 |
| Jiggie | and doing cd ~/.cpan/build/lib-apache | 19:17 |
| Jiggie | lib-apache not there | 19:18 |
| Jiggie | only folders in cpan are build - bundle - histfile - metadata - sources | 19:18 |
| Jiggie | what am i missing | 19:18 |
| Jiggie | hairgrease ? | 19:20 |
| +MrHairgrease | it's called something like libapreq2 or so | 19:21 |
| +MrHairgrease | do an ls -l ~/.cpan/build/* | 19:21 |
| +MrHairgrease | you should find it | 19:21 |
| Jiggie | ok | 19:23 |
| Jiggie | no file lib1preq2 | 19:23 |
| +MrHairgrease | ~/.cpan/build/libapreq2-2.07/ | 19:23 |
| +MrHairgrease | that's what it is at my place | 19:24 |
| +MrHairgrease | if it isn't there | 19:24 |
| Jiggie | ok in | 19:24 |
| +MrHairgrease | found it? | 19:24 |
| Jiggie | that directory yes | 19:24 |
| +MrHairgrease | ye | 19:24 |
| +MrHairgrease | ./configure --enable-perl-glue --with-apache2-apxs="" --with-perl="/usr/bin/perl" | 19:25 |
| +MrHairgrease | now do that | 19:25 |
| +MrHairgrease | fill in the correct path to apxs | 19:25 |
| +MrHairgrease | and perl | 19:25 |
| +MrHairgrease | of course | 19:25 |
| Jiggie | ok | 19:25 |
| Jiggie | is that default what you gave me | 19:25 |
| +MrHairgrease | yeah | 19:26 |
| Jiggie | its configuring | 19:26 |
| +MrHairgrease | well | 19:26 |
| +MrHairgrease | I guess =) | 19:26 |
| Jiggie | i dind tknow it was so complicated to get it started | 19:26 |
| Jiggie | from fedora core 5 | 19:26 |
| Jiggie | it does not come with anything | 19:26 |
| Jiggie | build/version_check.pl failed: no version_string found in '' for 'apache2'. | 19:28 |
| Jiggie | configure: error: Bad apache2 binary (/) | 19:28 |
| Jiggie | no good | 19:28 |
| +MrHairgrease | pfff | 19:28 |
| Jiggie | so i should remove apache2 and re-install it | 19:28 |
| +MrHairgrease | paste your exaxct line | 19:29 |
| +MrHairgrease | pls | 19:29 |
| Jiggie | yum remove apache2 like so? | 19:29 |
| Jiggie | or i can use the extender and remove from there | 19:29 |
| Jiggie | build/version_check.pl failed: no version_string found in '' for 'apache2'. | 19:30 |
| Jiggie | configure: error: Bad apache2 binary (/) | 19:30 |
| Jiggie | checking whether to enable maintainer-specific portions of Makefiles... no | 19:30 |
| Jiggie | ./configure: line 19919: -q: command not found | 19:30 |
| Jiggie | ./configure: line 19933: -q: command not found | 19:30 |
| Jiggie | ./configure: line 19937: -q: command not found | 19:30 |
| Jiggie | ./configure: line 19941: -q: command not found | 19:30 |
| Jiggie | ./configure: line 19941: -q: command not found | 19:30 |
| Jiggie | build/version_check.pl failed: no version_string found in '' for 'apache2'. | 19:30 |
| Jiggie | configure: error: Bad apache2 binary (/) | 19:30 |
| +MrHairgrease | no | 19:30 |
| +MrHairgrease | the ./configure line you typed. | 19:31 |
| Jiggie | the same u gave me.... | 19:31 |
| +MrHairgrease | yeah but did you put in the apxs binary in the --with-apache2-apxs | 19:31 |
| +MrHairgrease | ? | 19:31 |
| Jiggie | [root@intranet2 libapreq2-2.07]# ./configure --enable-perl-glue --with-apache2-apxs="" --with-perl="/usr/bin/perl" | 19:32 |
| +MrHairgrease | not good | 19:32 |
| Jiggie | whats missing | 19:32 |
| +MrHairgrease | --with-apache2-apxs="" | 19:32 |
| +MrHairgrease | you have to enter the path to the apxs binary | 19:32 |
| Jiggie | searching for it now | 19:32 |
| Jiggie | usr/bin | 19:33 |
| +MrHairgrease | -with-apache2-apxs="/usr/bin/apxs" | 19:33 |
| Jiggie | ok | 19:34 |
| Jiggie | running | 19:34 |
| xdanger | MrHairgrease: I was talking aput the startpoint, so I set that to /a/b/c.... | 19:34 |
| +MrHairgrease | As far as I can tell it should work | 19:36 |
| +MrHairgrease | maybe it's a bug | 19:36 |
| +MrHairgrease | you can also try to set start point type to specific url | 19:36 |
| +MrHairgrease | and use home as startpoint | 19:36 |
| +MrHairgrease | then descendants | 19:36 |
| +MrHairgrease | oh wait | 19:37 |
| +MrHairgrease | that prolly doesn't work | 19:37 |
| +MrHairgrease | b/c it includes /home/page[123] | 19:37 |
| xdanger | MrHairgrease: ok, go to a demo, change the main navigation, set the startpoint to a lower point, It changes nothing.. | 19:44 |
| xdanger | http://demo.plainblack.com/demo1150216930_416/home | 19:44 |
| Jiggie | same error | 19:45 |
| Jiggie | build/version_check.pl failed: no version_string found in '' for 'apache2'. | 19:45 |
| Jiggie | configure: error: Bad apache2 binary (/) | 19:45 |
| +MrHairgrease | Ok | 19:46 |
| +MrHairgrease | I don't know anymore | 19:46 |
| +MrHairgrease | and I have to go home | 19:46 |
| +MrHairgrease | it's about 18:45 here and 30 degrees or so | 19:47 |
| * MrHairgrease need... fresh.. air | 19:47 | |
| +MrHairgrease | succes | 19:47 |
| +MrHairgrease | later | 19:47 |
| Jiggie | humm | 19:48 |
| Jiggie | u going for a smoke | 19:48 |
| +MrHairgrease | no | 19:48 |
| +MrHairgrease | for a meal | 19:48 |
| +MrHairgrease | and a lot of booze | 19:48 |
| +MrHairgrease | =) | 19:48 |
| +MrHairgrease | bye | 19:49 |
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| Jiggie | xdanger | 19:49 |
| Jiggie | can u be of help | 19:49 |
| Jiggie | brb | 19:51 |
| Jiggie | need to reboot | 19:51 |
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| @rizen | martin...are you actually here? | 17:50 |
| +MrHairgrease | yes | 17:50 |
| @rizen | cool | 17:50 |
| @rizen | i need you to talk with one of my writers | 17:51 |
| @rizen | she's putting together an article on the new features in 7 | 17:51 |
| +MrHairgrease | ok | 17:51 |
| +MrHairgrease | when | 17:51 |
| +MrHairgrease | how | 17:51 |
| +MrHairgrease | what | 17:51 |
| @rizen | right now | 17:51 |
| @rizen | i'm getting her an irc client | 17:51 |
| +MrHairgrease | how long will it take? | 17:51 |
| @rizen | 5 minutes once she gets on | 17:52 |
| +MrHairgrease | oh | 17:52 |
| @rizen | she's downloading a client now | 17:52 |
| +MrHairgrease | that's all right | 17:52 |
| +MrHairgrease | I'm merging part of the asset tree in one database | 17:52 |
| @rizen | it's just a paragraph or two about sql form | 17:52 |
| +MrHairgrease | with one in another | 17:52 |
| @rizen | whoa | 17:52 |
| @rizen | how's that working out for you? | 17:53 |
| +MrHairgrease | very tiresome | 17:53 |
| +MrHairgrease | I had the script working | 17:53 |
| +MrHairgrease | but it did not take inaccount | 17:53 |
| +MrHairgrease | the ordering on layouts | 17:53 |
| +MrHairgrease | anyway | 17:53 |
| +MrHairgrease | I've wasted enough time on it | 17:53 |
| +MrHairgrease | oh | 17:53 |
| +MrHairgrease | and it can only handle two type of assets | 17:53 |
| +MrHairgrease | it ignores the rest | 17:54 |
| +MrHairgrease | but that suits my needs | 17:54 |
| @rizen | if they're all assets..then you should be able to import them all using the same asset ids | 17:54 |
| @rizen | and therefore your layout's won't get foobared | 17:54 |
| @rizen | guids are unique | 17:54 |
| +MrHairgrease | hmmm | 17:54 |
| +MrHairgrease | maybe | 17:55 |
| +MrHairgrease | I thought about that | 17:55 |
| +MrHairgrease | but I decided not to | 17:55 |
| +MrHairgrease | not quite sure why anymore | 17:55 |
| @rizen | that's the principle that the package exports work from | 17:55 |
| +MrHairgrease | ok | 17:55 |
| @rizen | in fact..you may be able to use the code from the packages system to do this | 17:55 |
| +MrHairgrease | but how do you handle collateral | 17:55 |
| @rizen | depending upon what assets you have | 17:55 |
| @rizen | are they both webgui 7 sites? | 17:55 |
| +MrHairgrease | and changed templateId's and stuff | 17:56 |
| +MrHairgrease | no it's 6.something -> 6.8 | 17:56 |
| @rizen | ok, so you can't literally use the packages system | 17:56 |
| +MrHairgrease | anyway | 17:56 |
| @rizen | but you could use the principles | 17:56 |
| +MrHairgrease | I have the script working | 17:56 |
| @rizen | ok | 17:56 |
| @rizen | i'll shut up now then | 17:56 |
| @rizen | =) | 17:56 |
| xdanger | rizen: in the v7 there is wgpackages... when you import one and guid:s collide, does it autogenerate a new one for the importet one? | 17:56 |
| +MrHairgrease | I only have to update the contentpositions | 17:56 |
| @rizen | no..if they collide, then it assumes it is a new version of the same asset | 17:57 |
| @rizen | and creates a new revision of it | 17:57 |
| xdanger | o, of course.. | 17:57 |
| xdanger | stupid of me =) | 17:57 |
| +MrHairgrease | but the chance of colliding guids is very slim | 17:57 |
| @rizen | it's ultra slim | 17:57 |
| @rizen | the biggest danger of colliding guids actually comes from guids that are manually entered by humans | 17:58 |
| +MrHairgrease | jt | 17:58 |
| +MrHairgrease | how do you handle lineage in the way you just described | 17:59 |
| @rizen | you have to generate a new lineage, but you use the old lineage to do the ordering | 18:00 |
| @rizen | so you order by old lineage | 18:00 |
| @rizen | and then just walk the tree | 18:00 |
| xdanger | rizen: a question... I have to do a multi-lingual site, and I'm considering that I install one site with finnish content and finnis as default language and another with english... | 18:00 |
| @rizen | doing addChild/addRevision | 18:00 |
| xdanger | Is it possible to have the default language changed depending on the root that your in? | 18:01 |
| +MrHairgrease | I'm doing addchilds | 18:01 |
| +MrHairgrease | can you pass the assetId with that method? | 18:01 |
| @rizen | the code is simple | 18:01 |
| @rizen | sub importAssetData { | 18:01 |
| @rizen | my $self = shift; | 18:01 |
| @rizen | my $data = shift; | 18:01 |
| @rizen | my $id = $data->{properties}{assetId}; | 18:01 |
| @rizen | my $class = $data->{properties}{className}; | 18:01 |
| @rizen | my $version = $data->{properties}{revisionDate}; | 18:01 |
| @rizen | my $asset = WebGUI::Asset->new($self->session, $id, $class, $version); | 18:01 |
| @rizen | if (defined $asset) { # update an existing revision | 18:01 |
| @rizen | $asset->update($data->{properties}); | 18:01 |
| @rizen | } else { | 18:01 |
| @rizen | $asset = WebGUI::Asset->new($self->session, $id, $class); | 18:01 |
| @rizen | if (defined $asset) { # create a new revision of an existing asset | 18:01 |
| @rizen | $asset = $asset->addRevision($data->{properties}, $version); | 18:02 |
| @rizen | } else { # add an entirely new asset | 18:02 |
| @rizen | $asset = $self->addChild($data->{properties}, $id, $version); | 18:02 |
| @rizen | } | 18:02 |
| @rizen | } | 18:02 |
| @rizen | return $asset; | 18:02 |
| @rizen | } | 18:02 |
| +MrHairgrease | so you can set the assetId's to whatever you want? | 18:02 |
| @rizen | you can pass in an asset id to addChild | 18:02 |
| * MrHairgrease cheers | 18:02 | |
| +MrHairgrease | that's great | 18:03 |
| +MrHairgrease | I thought it would autogenerate | 18:03 |
| @rizen | xdanger: langauges are a user level thing, not a content level thing | 18:03 |
| @rizen | at the content level everything is UTF-8 | 18:03 |
| @rizen | and therefore you can put as many languages on the same page as you want, or on seperate pages | 18:04 |
| xdanger | Just that the i18n for a visitor is allways the same | 18:04 |
| @rizen | right | 18:04 |
| xdanger | The errors are in one language... | 18:04 |
| xdanger | logins.. | 18:04 |
| xdanger | stuff like that | 18:04 |
| @rizen | not really | 18:04 |
| @rizen | on a dual language site | 18:05 |
| @rizen | you can create your own login boxes | 18:05 |
| @rizen | and use one language in one | 18:05 |
| xdanger | we'll that ok =) | 18:05 |
| @rizen | and another language in another | 18:05 |
| xdanger | but my main problem is the errors, and "not found" page =) | 18:05 |
| @rizen | i agree that multi-lingual sites are more difficult | 18:05 |
| @rizen | and there's stuff you have to work around | 18:05 |
| @rizen | but tis the nature of working in a multi-lingual | 18:05 |
| @rizen | webgui isn't designed to do the multi lingual content object thing | 18:06 |
| @rizen | where you create one content object | 18:06 |
| @rizen | and add revisions for each language | 18:06 |
| xdanger | I just think that I'm going to set some metadata that defines on which site it is in... | 18:06 |
| xdanger | ad do some macros, so that I won't have to have to seperate webguis.. | 18:07 |
| @rizen | probably a good idea | 18:07 |
| xdanger | for one site | 18:07 |
| @rizen | i don't ever build multi-lingual sites...so i don't have any tips for you | 18:07 |
| @rizen | you should talk to some of the w3 members | 18:07 |
| xdanger | ^If(<tmpl_var url> =~ ^/en/, english, finnish); | 18:09 |
| xdanger | =D | 18:09 |
| @rizen | no if macro anymore | 18:09 |
| xdanger | I have =) | 18:09 |
| xdanger | can't live with out | 18:09 |
| @rizen | it's much safer if you create custom if macros for each occasion | 18:10 |
| xdanger | I know.. | 18:10 |
| xdanger | but, now I have to go to play some soccer (football here in the europe) | 18:10 |
| +MrHairgrease | break a leg =) | 18:11 |
| xdanger | rizen: where could I ask the some w3 member? | 18:11 |
| @rizen | webguiworldwide.org | 18:11 |
| @rizen | then follow the links to their sites | 18:12 |
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| +MrHairgrease | jt | 19:27 |
| +MrHairgrease | in layouts | 19:27 |
| +MrHairgrease | the assets in the first contentposition | 19:27 |
| +MrHairgrease | are they also in the contentpositions field in the layout table? | 19:27 |
| @rizen | they may or may not be | 19:29 |
| @rizen | if they have been explicitly moved to the first position | 19:29 |
| @rizen | then they will be | 19:29 |
| @rizen | otherwise, if they are not defined at all in any content position | 19:29 |
| @rizen | they will automatically be added to the end of the first content position | 19:29 |
| @rizen | in order of rank | 19:29 |
| +MrHairgrease | ok | 19:29 |
| +MrHairgrease | thanks | 19:29 |
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| tamray | crythias, the url is www.mrved.org. you will see the problem | 21:07 |
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| Jiggie | sup people | 21:10 |
| Jiggie | back for more questions | 21:10 |
| Jiggie | lo | 21:10 |
| Jiggie | it would be nice to insert a space here | 21:13 |
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| Jiggie | 5) Make a /data folder and make it writable by you | 21:13 |
| Jiggie | sudo mkdir /data | 21:13 |
| Jiggie | sudo chown you /data | 21:13 |
| Jiggie | 6) Run build.sh | 21:13 |
| Jiggie | ./build.sh | 21:13 |
| Jiggie | 5a) copy the files from wre to data folder | 21:14 |
| Jiggie | now tell us where build.sh is located | 21:14 |
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| Jiggie | half finised documents | 21:14 |
| Jiggie | where can i find build.sh | 21:26 |
| Jiggie | in the wqre folders | 21:26 |
| Jiggie | all i cna find is binbuild.sh under /data/source/apache/httpd | 21:26 |
| +crythias | heya | 21:36 |
| +crythias | sorry. was out for a sec | 21:36 |
| +crythias | you there, tamray? | 21:36 |
| +crythias | :) | 21:36 |
| +crythias | Jiggie: build.sh is in the wre | 21:37 |
| tamray | Here I am | 21:37 |
| +crythias | howdy | 21:38 |
| tamray | Hi there | 21:38 |
| +crythias | heh | 21:38 |
| +crythias | no menus defined | 21:38 |
| tamray | right, how do I get it back | 21:39 |
| +crythias | dunno. but I can't log on anyway :) | 21:39 |
| tamray | if you would like I can change the passwd | 21:39 |
| +crythias | coolmenu is balking | 21:40 |
| Jiggie | crythias i just did a search and its not there | 21:40 |
| Jiggie | where exaclty should i perform that ./build.sh command | 21:41 |
| +crythias | there's the wre and the wre source | 21:41 |
| Jiggie | inside what folder | 21:41 |
| +crythias | one moment please | 21:41 |
| +crythias | which wre? | 21:42 |
| Jiggie | i downloaded the wre | 21:43 |
| +crythias | 0.7.1? | 21:43 |
| Jiggie | extracted and inside it extracted the pre-req | 21:43 |
| Jiggie | wre-0.7.1-rhel-3-i386 | 21:43 |
| +crythias | don't need to build that. | 21:43 |
| +crythias | IIRC | 21:43 |
| Jiggie | so then what | 21:43 |
| Jiggie | i guess new docs are inside | 21:43 |
| +crythias | that'd be a binary install, yeah. docs inside | 21:44 |
| Jiggie | ok brb | 21:44 |
| +crythias | if I understand correctly, you'd just expand that inside your /data | 21:44 |
| +crythias | and it'd run | 21:44 |
| +crythias | well, more or less. you'd have to run the setup | 21:45 |
| tamray | the password is changed to what we used before | 21:45 |
| +crythias | fine | 21:46 |
| +crythias | I'm clicking edit on the menu | 21:46 |
| +crythias | zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz | 21:46 |
| +crythias | start point is root +1 and .. | 21:47 |
| +crythias | *snore* | 21:47 |
| +crythias | sorry. | 21:47 |
| +crythias | clicking self gave me home. | 21:47 |
| tamray | clicking home to get home would be good | 21:48 |
| +crythias | 'kay | 21:48 |
| +crythias | cache | 21:49 |
| +crythias | visitor cache is 5 minutes | 21:49 |
| +crythias | by default | 21:49 |
| tamray | and? | 21:49 |
| +crythias | I"m not certain what you want :) | 21:49 |
| +crythias | log on as admin | 21:49 |
| tamray | I am now | 21:50 |
| +crythias | Hey rizen, wassup? Wisconsin is a bit away from Chicago :) | 21:51 |
| tamray | I see it now. What did you have to do? | 21:51 |
| @rizen | indeed | 21:52 |
| +crythias | tamray: in navigation, clicked [x]self | 21:52 |
| tamray | in navigation found in assets? | 21:53 |
| +crythias | there's a compass thing on the left.. (edit) <-- click | 21:54 |
| tamray | what am I supposed to see, besides copy, manage, view? | 21:56 |
| +crythias | stuff at the bottom of the first tab of the navigation. | 21:59 |
| tamray | duh, I have never scrolled down to the bottom to see the other controls | 21:59 |
| tamray | pretty soon I will be a novice. | 22:00 |
| tamray | Thanks again | 22:00 |
| +crythias | :) | 22:01 |
| @rizen | gerald, are you coming to the wuc? | 22:04 |
| +crythias | I want to so bad | 22:07 |
| +crythias | I may be moving in or about that time. | 22:08 |
| @rizen | you really need to be there | 22:09 |
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| @rizen | incidentally | 22:09 |
| @rizen | assume for a minute that you do come | 22:09 |
| @rizen | are there any birds of a feather sessions that you'd want to run? | 22:10 |
| @rizen | i'm considering arranging that our rooms are available thursday night | 22:10 |
| @rizen | so that people that want to run BOFs can have the rooms and wifi to do it | 22:10 |
| @rizen | keep in mind that bofs don't have to necessarily be webgui related...though those will be given preference on the room space | 22:11 |
| +crythias | not off the top of my head. let me think :) | 22:12 |
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| +crythias | heya | 22:13 |
| nbcccorp | Hey Rizen, do you have a moment to discuss CVS with me? (not related to wg) | 22:13 |
| @rizen | i suppose | 22:13 |
| nbcccorp | Ok. Gerald and I were just talking and he thought you might have some comments on this. | 22:14 |
| nbcccorp | I need to keep two seperate sites in sync with each other. Each site has a 50 person engineering dept | 22:14 |
| nbcccorp | the engineers use a 3D modeling package called Solid Edge | 22:14 |
| nbcccorp | SE creates 'assemblies' which are basically sets of files which comprise the various parts of a model | 22:15 |
| nbcccorp | these assemblies are usually pretty large >100MB | 22:15 |
| nbcccorp | each file in the assembly may not be but all together they are. | 22:16 |
| nbcccorp | when SE opens an assembly it opens all files | 22:16 |
| nbcccorp | the locations are in rural locations that have only T-1's available. | 22:16 |
| nbcccorp | So I am trying to find a reliable, fairly simple way to keep the files in both locs and keep them in sync. | 22:16 |
| nbcccorp | I don't want a person in one location to be able to edit an assembly that a person in the other location is working on. | 22:17 |
| nbcccorp | Gerald suggested that cvs might work. | 22:17 |
| @rizen | cvs won't work | 22:18 |
| @rizen | because it's concurrent | 22:18 |
| nbcccorp | fair enough. | 22:18 |
| @rizen | same thing with subversion | 22:18 |
| @rizen | files don't get locked | 22:18 |
| nbcccorp | ever heard of anything that might work? | 22:18 |
| @rizen | honestly...i don't know what could possibly work for what you want to do | 22:18 |
| @rizen | rsync would work good for keeping things in sync between locations | 22:19 |
| @rizen | but that doesn't do locking | 22:19 |
| +crythias | http://subversion.tigris.org/svn_1.2_releasenotes.html | 22:19 |
| nbcccorp | that is the problem. I have tried a number of different things but we also have probs with the way that Solid Edge does file locking (real PoS) | 22:19 |
| @rizen | yeah..the only thing i can think of | 22:20 |
| @rizen | is you need to look at document managment systems | 22:20 |
| @rizen | some of them allow for remote syncrhonization | 22:20 |
| @rizen | and all of them allow for file locking | 22:20 |
| @rizen | or at least the good ones | 22:21 |
| @rizen | however, doc man sys's are expensive | 22:21 |
| @rizen | unless you can find an open source one | 22:21 |
| nbcccorp | ok. thanks for the time. | 22:21 |
| nbcccorp | money really isn't an issue on this one. | 22:21 |
| @rizen | search google for "document management system" | 22:21 |
| nbcccorp | if we could get one the client is willing to pay for a p-p T3 | 22:21 |
| +crythias | gtgttyl8r | 22:29 |
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| Jiggie | what can i do here | 23:12 |
| Jiggie | Which mirror would you like to download from? [Houston, TX] | 23:12 |
| Jiggie | Downloading from mirror: Failed! Couldn't get file. | 23:12 |
| Jiggie | Getting mirrors list: OK | 23:12 |
| @rizen | choose plain black | 23:13 |
| @rizen | it's always up | 23:13 |
| @rizen | although, plainblack will only show up in the mirrors list if you're using WRE 0.7.0 or higher | 23:13 |
| @rizen | if you're using wre 0.6 or below...you'll need to manually download the file from getwebgui.com | 23:14 |
| Jiggie | i'm using 0.7.1 | 23:14 |
| Jiggie | i chose houston TX | 23:14 |
| Jiggie | thats all it shows | 23:14 |
| Jiggie | and it says failed | 23:14 |
| @rizen | really? | 23:14 |
| @rizen | whoa | 23:14 |
| @rizen | let me check it out | 23:14 |
| Jiggie | anyway to get back to the list and choose local | 23:14 |
| Jiggie | instead | 23:15 |
| Jiggie | hich mirror would you like to download from? [local] | 23:15 |
| Jiggie | Downloading from mirror: Failed! Couldn't get file. | 23:15 |
| Jiggie | Getting mirrors list: OK | 23:15 |
| Jiggie | plainblack = Houston, TX | 23:15 |
| Jiggie | Which mirror would you like to download from? [local] plainblack | 23:15 |
| Jiggie | Downloading from mirror: Failed! Couldn't get file. | 23:15 |
| Jiggie | Getting mirrors list: OK | 23:15 |
| Jiggie | plainblack = Houston, TX | 23:15 |
| Jiggie | Which mirror would you like to download from? [plainblack] Houston, TX | 23:15 |
| Jiggie | Downloading from mirror: Failed! Couldn't get file. | 23:15 |
| Jiggie | Getting mirrors list: OK | 23:15 |
| Jiggie | plainblack = Houston, TX | 23:15 |
| Jiggie | any way to tell the installer to use local from this point | 23:16 |
| @rizen | what version number did you type in | 23:16 |
| Jiggie | like put the path of the file | 23:16 |
| @rizen | did you leave the default? | 23:16 |
| @rizen | webgui version | 23:16 |
| @rizen | 6.99.3-beta | 23:16 |
| Jiggie | no the latest gamma | 23:16 |
| @rizen | ok...that's part of the problem | 23:17 |
| @rizen | you can't use the latest gama | 23:17 |
| @rizen | with wre 0.7 | 23:17 |
| @rizen | wre 0.7 is for WebGUI 6.99 and WebGUI 7.0 | 23:17 |
| @rizen | so you need to control - C | 23:17 |
| @rizen | and kill the upgrade | 23:18 |
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| walaki | hi | 23:19 |
| @rizen | howdy | 23:19 |
| walaki | tired, have't slept for 38 hours | 23:19 |
| @rizen | haven't slept well for 6 months | 23:20 |
| @rizen | =) | 23:20 |
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| walaki | why? | 23:20 |
| @rizen | working on webgui 7 and all that it entails | 23:21 |
| @rizen | i can sleep when it goes gold in a few weeks | 23:21 |
| walaki | it's that much work? | 23:21 |
| @rizen | 20,000 hours worth of work | 23:21 |
| @rizen | between 6.0.0 and 7.0.0 | 23:22 |
| @rizen | not all mine, but mostly mine | 23:22 |
| @rizen | i'm 14,000 of that 20,000 | 23:22 |
| walaki | I just can't imagine how do you guys get yourselves work that much without force | 23:22 |
| @rizen | it's my business...i have a vested interest | 23:23 |
| @rizen | i work this hard for me, so i never have to work for anyone else again | 23:23 |
| walaki | I see | 23:23 |
| walaki | actually I have done a project with wg | 23:24 |
| walaki | and I'm afraid it will not pay off verí well considering the hours spent | 23:24 |
| @rizen | i'm sorry to hear that | 23:25 |
| walaki | but as I know better wg I got verí interested in it | 23:25 |
| @rizen | would it have cost you more hours if you did it all from scratch | 23:25 |
| @rizen | without webgin? | 23:25 |
| @rizen | webgui? | 23:25 |
| walaki | it's not so big project I just want to spread the ghost of e-learning at my school, and becaouse they bought wg to the e-l framework I tried to do some exam making with it | 23:26 |
| Jiggie | ok killed the installation | 23:26 |
| Jiggie | should i re-run it or how can i continue from that p[art getting webgui | 23:26 |
| walaki | my learning curve was soooooo long, I have to know perl, then dig into the sources, I could really use some more docs | 23:27 |
| @rizen | are you going to now get 6.99? | 23:27 |
| @rizen | walaki: yup...and they will come | 23:27 |
| @rizen | we weren't putting out new docs during 6.x | 23:27 |
| @rizen | cuz stuff was changing so rapidly | 23:27 |
| Jiggie | i guess | 23:27 |
| Jiggie | no choice right | 23:28 |
| walaki | yeah I read | 23:28 |
| @rizen | once 7 goes gold | 23:28 |
| @rizen | there will be much more | 23:28 |
| @rizen | jiggie: you can download wre 0.6 | 23:28 |
| @rizen | if you prefer to run webgui 6.8 | 23:28 |
| @rizen | jiggie: | 23:29 |
| @rizen | if you want to stick with what you have | 23:29 |
| @rizen | then do this: | 23:29 |
| @rizen | delete /data/wre | 23:29 |
| @rizen | re extract it | 23:29 |
| @rizen | run setup | 23:29 |
| Jiggie | 6.99 downloaded | 23:29 |
| @rizen | and when you get to the webgui install | 23:29 |
| @rizen | just leave the defaults | 23:29 |
| Jiggie | ok | 23:29 |
| @rizen | and it will work | 23:29 |
| Jiggie | so do everything again | 23:29 |
| Jiggie | i get it | 23:29 |
| @rizen | i just did it | 23:29 |
| @rizen | and it worked | 23:30 |
| Jiggie | this is for our intranet | 23:30 |
| Jiggie | dont want to have bugs on it | 23:30 |
| @rizen | but your site won't go live right away, right? | 23:30 |
| Jiggie | nope | 23:30 |
| Jiggie | i must import the old site 6.2 i think into this one | 23:30 |
| @rizen | ok...webgui 7.0.0 (stable) | 23:30 |
| @rizen | will be out in 2 weeks | 23:30 |
| @rizen | oh | 23:30 |
| Jiggie | to make sure that the (Paid) layout works | 23:30 |
| @rizen | well that's a different story | 23:30 |
| @rizen | upgrading from 6.2 to 7.0 takes a couple of steps | 23:31 |
| Jiggie | how much different will it be | 23:31 |
| Jiggie | and will it be different | 23:31 |
| @rizen | 6.2 -> 6.6 | 23:31 |
| Jiggie | i'm going to need lots of help | 23:31 |
| @rizen | 6.6 -> 6.8 | 23:31 |
| @rizen | 6.8 -> 6.99 (or 7.0) | 23:31 |
| @rizen | you should consider purchasing support | 23:31 |
| @rizen | if you buy phone support...we'll do the upgrade for you 100% | 23:32 |
| Jiggie | how much $$$$$ | 23:32 |
| Jiggie | i have to save money | 23:32 |
| @rizen | $5000 per year | 23:32 |
| Jiggie | this company is not that $$$$ | 23:32 |
| Jiggie | hahahah | 23:32 |
| Jiggie | they will fire my ass | 23:32 |
| Jiggie | for that kind of money | 23:32 |
| @rizen | ok...well then you'll have to work through it | 23:33 |
| @rizen | just remember the upgrade steps i said above | 23:33 |
| @rizen | you need to make those steps | 23:33 |
| @rizen | or it won't work | 23:33 |
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| Jiggie | mod_perl failed to start! | 00:04 |
| Jiggie | mod_proxy failed to start! | 00:04 |
| Jiggie | why did that happened when i used the wre | 00:04 |
| Jiggie | [root@intranet2 sbin]# ./rc.webgui start | 00:06 |
| Jiggie | Starting MySQL | 00:06 |
| Jiggie | MySQL Started | 00:06 |
| Jiggie | mod_perl failed to start! | 00:06 |
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| Jiggie | morning people | 16:38 |
| xdanger | good afternoon | 16:40 |
| Jiggie | ha | 16:49 |
| Jiggie | hey what permissions should i have on the logs folder under wre | 16:50 |
| Jiggie | mod_perl failed to start! | 16:50 |
| Jiggie | mod_proxy failed to start! | 16:50 |
| Jiggie | crythias wanted me to see log files there but they are emty folders | 16:50 |
| +MrHairgrease | rw by the user webgui runs as | 16:52 |
| +MrHairgrease | the rest r | 16:53 |
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| +crythias | rizen: what's the best way to clean formparam if it's being fed to a sql statement? | 19:30 |
| @rizen | clean? | 19:31 |
| @rizen | what do you mean by clean? | 19:31 |
| +crythias | mysql escaped | 19:31 |
| @rizen | in an sql form, or in code? | 19:31 |
| @rizen | sql report i mean | 19:31 |
| +crythias | got a user who's trying to pass formparam to sqlext. unfortunately 's make it cack | 19:32 |
| @rizen | i don't know what sqlext is | 19:32 |
| @rizen | is that a macro? | 19:32 |
| +crythias | yeah. | 19:32 |
| +crythias | it expects a statement | 19:32 |
| +crythias | so it can't parse bad values passed within the statement string | 19:33 |
| @rizen | have you tried the Quote() macro | 19:33 |
| @rizen | that's what it's there fore | 19:33 |
| @rizen | ^Quote(^FormParam(fieldName);); | 19:34 |
| +crythias | makes sens to me. thanks muchly. | 19:35 |
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| Jiggie | back | 21:01 |
| Jiggie | root@intranet2 sbin]# ./rc.webgui stop | 21:09 |
| Jiggie | Stopping Spectre | 21:09 |
| Jiggie | Spectre Stopped | 21:09 |
| Jiggie | mod_proxy failed to stop! | 21:09 |
| Jiggie | mod_perl failed to stop! | 21:09 |
| Jiggie | Stopping MySQL | 21:09 |
| Jiggie | MySQL manager or server PID file could not be found! [FAILED] | 21:09 |
| Jiggie | MySQL Stopped | 21:09 |
| Jiggie | help | 21:09 |
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| Jiggie | hey anyone around | 21:41 |
| @rizen | just barely | 21:44 |
| Jiggie | i'm still in need of some help with webgui | 21:47 |
| Jiggie | always missing something | 21:47 |
| @rizen | sorry man...i don't do free support | 21:47 |
| @rizen | you need to talk to gerald | 21:47 |
| @rizen | or someone in the community | 21:47 |
| @rizen | if you want that | 21:47 |
| +crythias | hi | 21:59 |
| +crythias | Jiggie .. wassup | 22:00 |
| +crythias | btw... rizen why isn't FormParam escaped, generally? | 22:03 |
| @rizen | cuz it isn't always used to push stuff into a database | 22:05 |
| @rizen | i can also be used to just display the contents of a form parameter on a page | 22:05 |
| @rizen | or who knows what else | 22:05 |
| +crythias | yep. that's what I thought. SQL reports that use formparam (unless ?) need to be checked for injection vulns. I think I'll write that up on my faq. | 22:06 |
| @rizen | you shouldn't use formparam on sql reports | 22:09 |
| @rizen | sql reports have something called placeholders that you should use to gather form data in a taint safe way | 22:10 |
| +crythias | yep | 22:10 |
| @rizen | btw...wasn't it you that wanted a wiki thing in webgui? | 22:10 |
| +crythias | well, I was trying to see how one might work. | 22:11 |
| @rizen | i designed one last night | 22:12 |
| @rizen | i don't know when or if i'll get around to building it | 22:12 |
| @rizen | but it shouldnt' be hard to build when the time comes | 22:12 |
| +crythias | how do you address WikiWords? | 22:12 |
| @rizen | Two assets | 22:13 |
| @rizen | two asset classes | 22:13 |
| @rizen | WikiMaster: think of this like a collaboration system | 22:13 |
| @rizen | WikiPage: think of this like CS Thread | 22:13 |
| @rizen | The titles of pages under WIkiMaster | 22:14 |
| @rizen | are all fair game as wikiwords | 22:14 |
| @rizen | that autolink | 22:14 |
| @rizen | everytime a WikiPage is added to the WikiMaster | 22:15 |
| @rizen | it updates a cache in the WikiMaster | 22:15 |
| @rizen | so that it doesn't have to search all the pages on every page view | 22:15 |
| @rizen | and from there, it's just a find and replace | 22:15 |
| @rizen | style, who can add/edit, and other global properties of the wikipages | 22:17 |
| @rizen | are inherited from the wikimaster | 22:17 |
| @rizen | just like in the collaboration system | 22:17 |
| +crythias | if someone types a wikipage with GeraldYoung in it... is it recognized as a WikiWord? | 22:20 |
| @rizen | If the page exists yes. | 22:21 |
| @rizen | I haven't figured out the autolinking of non-existant pages yet | 22:21 |
| @rizen | But i think it will be easy | 22:22 |
| @rizen | I only spent about an hour on it last night. | 22:22 |
| @rizen | But I got most of it figured out | 22:22 |
| @rizen | I also think that I wouldn't use wiki language | 22:22 |
| @rizen | Instead, use the rich editor | 22:22 |
| @rizen | Except for linking WikiWords, etc | 22:22 |
| @rizen | Take the best parts of Wiki, and replace the things that aren't as easy | 22:23 |
| @rizen | For example..Is it easier to use a rich editor to bold something. | 22:23 |
| +crythias | I'm not above/beyond rich editor for markup | 22:23 |
| @rizen | Or is it easier to type | 22:23 |
| @rizen | '''this is bold''' | 22:23 |
| +crythias | yeah. how many apostrophes? | 22:24 |
| @rizen | three for bold | 22:24 |
| @rizen | 2 for italics | 22:24 |
| @rizen | etc | 22:24 |
| @rizen | it's bs | 22:24 |
| +crythias | agree | 22:24 |
| @rizen | The reason I'm having a problem with linking non-existant wikiwords | 22:25 |
| @rizen | is because i want to do something that isn't really straight wiki | 22:25 |
| @rizen | I'm cataloging titles | 22:25 |
| @rizen | and titles can have spaces | 22:25 |
| @rizen | where wikiwords | 22:25 |
| @rizen | are just camelcase | 22:25 |
| @rizen | no spaces | 22:25 |
| @rizen | I think instead of linking non existant stuff | 22:26 |
| @rizen | in order to link it | 22:26 |
| +crythias | might I suggest at least obeying the structure of underscores for spaces? | 22:26 |
| @rizen | you must use the add link at the bottom of the page | 22:26 |
| @rizen | Why? | 22:26 |
| @rizen | Just because wiki has those limitations | 22:26 |
| @rizen | why should we be limited by it | 22:27 |
| @rizen | why not create a more powerful wiki system | 22:27 |
| +crythias | just was a thought of ... nm. just thinking out loud about the way urls are generated... | 22:27 |
| +crythias | within wg. | 22:27 |
| @rizen | webgui urls will still be generated the same way with this | 22:27 |
| @rizen | so your resulting url will be | 22:27 |
| @rizen | wiki-master-url/wiki-page-title-urlized | 22:28 |
| @rizen | but when I type | 22:28 |
| @rizen | Wiki Page Title | 22:28 |
| @rizen | it will auto link | 22:28 |
| @rizen | wiki-master-url/wiki-page-title-urlized | 22:28 |
| @rizen | so if i was to write this into webgui, do you think anyone would actually use it? | 22:39 |
| @rizen | i was thinking it might be cool to add a section like this to the documentation | 22:39 |
| @rizen | but i don't know if anyone would actually contribute | 22:39 |
| +crythias | I've had at least two people kind of sort of ask. I think GregHacke might as well | 22:40 |
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| walaki | hi | 23:02 |
| @rizen | hi | 23:02 |
| walaki | I just wonder what do you do for fun? | 23:08 |
| @rizen | me? | 23:09 |
| walaki | yep | 23:10 |
| @rizen | lots of things | 23:10 |
| @rizen | watch movies | 23:10 |
| @rizen | build robots | 23:10 |
| @rizen | tinker on alternative energy (building windmills and electric cars etc) | 23:10 |
| @rizen | make and play games | 23:11 |
| @rizen | and webgui is a hell of a lot of fun too | 23:11 |
| @rizen | at least most of the time | 23:11 |
| walaki | what movies do you like? | 23:16 |
| @rizen | mostly horror and comedy | 23:16 |
| @rizen | but generally any movie is good | 23:16 |
| @rizen | except for british period pieces | 23:16 |
| @rizen | and baliwood musicals | 23:16 |
| @rizen | what do you do? | 23:18 |
| walaki | graduating | 23:19 |
| @rizen | what did you go to school for? | 23:19 |
| walaki | so I mostly learn, IT and a what could I call it... engineer-teacher | 23:20 |
| walaki | would get a bsc and I like to go for msc | 23:20 |
| walaki | and beside I have to work, for I am old | 23:20 |
| @rizen | how old are you? | 23:22 |
| walaki | 28 | 23:22 |
| @rizen | bah | 23:22 |
| @rizen | i'm way older than you | 23:22 |
| @rizen | ok...maybe not way older | 23:22 |
| @rizen | 32 | 23:22 |
| walaki | yeah, but you are a successful business man | 23:23 |
| @rizen | businessman maybe | 23:23 |
| @rizen | successful | 23:23 |
| @rizen | not yet | 23:23 |
| @rizen | lots of work to do there | 23:23 |
| walaki | and I just have to figure out what to do in my life, for I'm interested in sooo many things | 23:24 |
| @rizen | hehe | 23:24 |
| @rizen | if i can offer any piece of advice...do something you love | 23:24 |
| walaki | hard work is good if it pays | 23:24 |
| @rizen | i used to work in a big corporate environment before building my own company | 23:24 |
| walaki | but if I do something I love then I can't do the other thing(s) I love, big problem of mine! | 23:25 |
| @rizen | i made 4 times as much as i do now | 23:25 |
| @rizen | but i love what i'm doing now | 23:25 |
| +crythias | :) | 23:25 |
| +crythias | rizen: may I inquire as to why the move to Wisconsin? | 23:25 |
| @rizen | it's where both sarah and i are from | 23:26 |
| @rizen | almost all of my employees live in wisconsin | 23:26 |
| @rizen | cost of living is quite a bit less as well | 23:26 |
| @rizen | so lots of reasons | 23:26 |
| +crythias | certainly all good ones :) | 23:27 |
| +crythias | My move (if I can sell) will be because my son should have a back yard. | 23:28 |
| +crythias | but I can't list effectively until Aug/Sep | 23:28 |
| @rizen | back yards are nice for kids | 23:28 |
| +crythias | I think I'd be closer to colin :) | 23:29 |
| @rizen | but also something nice for kids is a nearby park...and actually better for kids in my opinion | 23:29 |
| @rizen | more exercise | 23:29 |
| @rizen | more socialization | 23:29 |
| +crythias | still tough to grow up in a condo. | 23:29 |
| @rizen | i grew up on a farm | 23:29 |
| walaki | ok guys I grew up in the country, and I think there are less possibilities for kids | 23:29 |
| @rizen | lots of space to stretch my legs | 23:30 |
| @rizen | but it sucked from a social point of view | 23:30 |
| +crythias | I'm interested in culdesac living :) | 23:30 |
| @rizen | i have had to work thru lots of social problems because of lack of socialization | 23:30 |
| @rizen | ew | 23:30 |
| walaki | so I definitely will kids in the town | 23:30 |
| @rizen | i'm interested in downtown living | 23:30 |
| +crythias | give me a big Internet pipe. after that, it's all gravy. | 23:31 |
| @rizen | i agree with walaki | 23:31 |
| @rizen | two against one | 23:31 |
| +crythias | heh. | 23:31 |
| @rizen | gerald, you're wrong | 23:31 |
| @rizen | cuz there are two of us | 23:31 |
| +crythias | *gasp* | 23:31 |
| @rizen | and only one of you | 23:31 |
| +crythias | you're just saying that 'cause you're being antisocial. | 23:31 |
| +crythias | :) | 23:31 |
| +crythias | I'm not talking country livin. just suburbia. | 23:32 |
| @rizen | yeah...way worse | 23:32 |
| @rizen | it's not the best of country and town | 23:33 |
| @rizen | it's the worst of both | 23:33 |
| +crythias | hrm. no traffic and yet... near people. | 23:33 |
| @rizen | you get some space...but not much | 23:33 |
| @rizen | not close enough to walk anywhere | 23:33 |
| walaki | yeah I would dreom of that, but I just get very happy if I can get my own place in the town (will be probalbly a 30 m^2 whole) | 23:33 |
| +crythias | 4/2.5, 3000 sq ft, den, game room, wet bar, jaqcuzzi.. | 23:34 |
| walaki | the good solution IMO to get rich enough to have property in the city and in the country | 23:34 |
| +crythias | his'n'hers segways. :) | 23:35 |
| walaki | have a nece day guys, I have to go to bed | 23:37 |
| walaki | bye | 23:37 |
| @rizen | bye | 23:37 |
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| +crythias | what options to conditionally display an asset based upon a form? | 23:41 |
| +crythias | a field in a form. | 23:42 |
| @rizen | none per se | 23:42 |
| @rizen | there are a couple of ways to do it | 23:43 |
| @rizen | but not directly the way you suggest | 23:43 |
| @rizen | the options are: | 23:43 |
| @rizen | a) create a macro that calls an asset proxy conditionally | 23:43 |
| @rizen | b) set the asset to be viewable by a group the user is not in | 23:43 |
| @rizen | and then | 23:43 |
| @rizen | b1) use a scratch variable and a form to conditionally add the user to the group for the duration of their session | 23:44 |
| @rizen | b2) use auto add groups so that the user can permanently become part of the group | 23:44 |
| +crythias | slight alteration of subject ... I'm thinking of a cleansing macro... somehow pass ^cleanse(actionAssetId,[[field, filter, required],[field,filter,required]); | 23:48 |
| @rizen | to what end? | 23:49 |
| +crythias | a way to pre-vet a form before it goes to a insert-into-db macro... | 23:49 |
| @rizen | is this you building a site for someone? | 23:50 |
| @rizen | why not just build a macro that does the whole thing..beginning to end | 23:50 |
| @rizen | display the form | 23:50 |
| @rizen | retrieve the form contents | 23:50 |
| @rizen | submit to the database | 23:50 |
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| nbcccorp | anyone around who is willing to give me a hand with a javascript problem in wg? | 05:41 |
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| Jiggie | sup people back again with more questions | 18:38 |
| +crythias | hi | 18:38 |
| Jiggie | sup | 18:38 |
| Jiggie | i got mod perl to come up now | 18:38 |
| Jiggie | i decided to run it on windows first and make sure it works then go back to the linux box | 18:39 |
| Jiggie | we are changing hardware | 18:39 |
| Jiggie | anyways | 18:39 |
| Jiggie | i got the windows version up and running and i can log in and everything | 18:39 |
| Jiggie | now if i wanted to import a linux database into the windows, can it be done? | 18:40 |
| +crythias | sure | 18:40 |
| +crythias | mysqldump is your friend | 18:40 |
| Jiggie | i dont know how to use mysql | 18:46 |
| Jiggie | i know i can export it form linux but when i bring it to windows.. | 18:46 |
| Jiggie | how do i import it | 18:46 |
| Jiggie | just picked up a book on mysql | 18:47 |
| +crythias | it's like this: old: mysqldump -uuser -ppassword databasename > dumpfile.sql | 18:48 |
| +crythias | new: mysql -uuser -ppasword databasename < dumpfile.sql | 18:48 |
| +crythias | just make certain you're not overwriting something you want to keep | 18:48 |
| Jiggie | the windows system is clean just loaded the wre, so just want to import the database to see if anything breaks | 18:49 |
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| mindspin | hi, is there a wayto run WebGUI 5.8.x and 6.x together on the same machine? | 11:33 |
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| Jiggie | sup guys | 23:44 |
| +crythias | howdy | 23:44 |
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| Jiggie | yoooo | 23:45 |
| Jiggie | please help | 23:48 |
| Jiggie | power outage and webgui now wont load | 23:48 |
| Jiggie | Can't call method "prepare" on an undefined value at /data/WebGUI/lib/WebGUI/SQL.pm line 446. | 23:49 |
| +crythias | yeah. | 23:50 |
| +crythias | generally means mysql might not be running? | 23:50 |
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| Jiggie | so i should just start my sql | 00:00 |
| Jiggie | my sql is running | 00:01 |
| Jiggie | it was i mean | 00:01 |
| +crythias | generally speaking this means that index.pl doesn't know how to get to your .conf's logins | 00:04 |
| +crythias | webgui version? | 00:06 |
| Jiggie | 6.2 | 00:09 |
| Jiggie | very old | 00:09 |
| Jiggie | thats why we are trying to upgrade to the latest | 00:09 |
| +crythias | yep. index.pl can't see the .conf | 00:10 |
| Jiggie | where is that file | 00:11 |
| +crythias | in your docroot | 00:11 |
| Jiggie | what do i need to edit then | 00:11 |
| Jiggie | the index.pl or the config and what does it need to be | 00:11 |
| +crythias | do you have command line access? | 00:11 |
| Jiggie | yes | 00:12 |
| +crythias | you should perl index.pl and see if it renders as a web page or as errors | 00:12 |
| Jiggie | where can i find the index.pl | 00:14 |
| +crythias | it's in your documentroot | 00:15 |
| +crythias | DocumentRoot is defined in httpd.conf | 00:15 |
| Jiggie | ok found it | 00:15 |
| Jiggie | so now i should just do perl index.pl | 00:16 |
| Jiggie | so now i should just do "perl index.pl" | 00:16 |
| Jiggie | thanks for the help btw | 00:16 |
| +crythias | sure | 00:16 |
| +crythias | and.. yes | 00:16 |
| Jiggie | asking for some sudo password | 00:18 |
| +crythias | yeah, probably'd be good to try it as root, 'cause of the perms | 00:18 |
| +crythias | though. | 00:18 |
| +crythias | .. | 00:18 |
| +crythias | doesn't really make sense why it's asking sudo | 00:18 |
| Jiggie | telling me | 00:19 |
| Jiggie | some guy used to work here set this up and he no longer works here | 00:19 |
| +crythias | yeah... | 00:19 |
| Jiggie | you guys got to make this easier lol | 00:19 |
| Jiggie | dumb pelple like me | 00:19 |
| +crythias | it is easier in 6.8+ (no index.pl) | 00:19 |
| Jiggie | we are waiting for 7 | 00:20 |
| +crythias | but the long and short is that index.pl has a path to the .conf for the site | 00:20 |
| Jiggie | we bought a template from you guys and you guys installed it on our website | 00:20 |
| Jiggie | now we need to do the same to our intranet | 00:20 |
| +crythias | if apache can't read the .conf... | 00:20 |
| +crythias | I'm not a you guys. | 00:20 |
| +crythias | :) | 00:20 |
| Jiggie | i mean plainblack | 00:20 |
| Jiggie | lol | 00:20 |
| +crythias | I'm not an employee of plainblack. | 00:21 |
| +crythias | :) | 00:21 |
| Jiggie | u work for free | 00:21 |
| +crythias | yes | 00:21 |
| Jiggie | someone bless you | 00:21 |
| +crythias | more or less. people who want to pay me... do. | 00:21 |
| Jiggie | [root@JETS www]# perl index.pl | 00:21 |
| Jiggie | Can't connect to data source , no database driver specified and DBI_DSN env var not set at /data/WebGUI/lib/WebGUI/Session.pm line 311 | 00:21 |
| Jiggie | i'm broke | 00:22 |
| Jiggie | if i could i would | 00:22 |
| +crythias | np. and not soliciting. | 00:22 |
| Jiggie | its ok i understand | 00:22 |
| +crythias | can't connect to data source ... that'd be par | 00:22 |
| Jiggie | i used to help others with regular joe computer problems and didnt charge them | 00:22 |
| +crythias | it means that the mysql connection can't be established. | 00:22 |
| Jiggie | that'd be par ? | 00:22 |
| +crythias | par for the course. and right in line with everything else. | 00:23 |
| Jiggie | so what should i look for then | 00:23 |
| +crythias | lots. | 00:23 |
| Jiggie | we can log into mysql | 00:23 |
| Jiggie | i type mysql | 00:23 |
| +crythias | more index.pl | 00:23 |
| +crythias | find the .conf that's being referenced. | 00:23 |
| +crythias | see if it exists still in that location. | 00:23 |
| +crythias | see what perms are on that .conf | 00:24 |
| +crythias | edit the .conf and see what the db connection info is. | 00:24 |
| +crythias | try to see if you can use that connection info from the command line. | 00:24 |
| Jiggie | ok checking | 00:25 |
| +crythias | mysql -uuser -ppassword webguidatabasename | 00:25 |
| +crythias | show tables; | 00:25 |
| Jiggie | when i do a show tables i get | 00:25 |
| Jiggie | i mean show databases i get | 00:25 |
| Jiggie | mysql> show databases; | 00:26 |
| Jiggie | +---------------------------+ | 00:26 |
| Jiggie | | Database | | 00:26 |
| Jiggie | +---------------------------+ | 00:26 |
| Jiggie | | intranet_invisioninc_com | | 00:26 |
| Jiggie | | mysql | | 00:26 |
| Jiggie | | oldintranet | | 00:26 |
| Jiggie | | oldportal_invisioninc_com | | 00:26 |
| Jiggie | | test | | 00:26 |
| Jiggie | | xplan | | 00:26 |
| Jiggie | | xplanner | | 00:26 |
| Jiggie | +---------------------------+ | 00:26 |
| Jiggie | 7 rows in set (0.06 sec) | 00:26 |
| +crythias | yeah.. | 00:26 |
| +crythias | ok. so what does the .conf say the db is that needs? | 00:26 |
| Jiggie | looking for it still | 00:26 |
| +crythias | I hope it's intranet_invisioninc_com | 00:27 |
| Jiggie | it should be under webgui or wre | 00:27 |
| Jiggie | yeah is that | 00:27 |
| Jiggie | the one its supposed to be | 00:27 |
| Jiggie | but looking for the conf file | 00:27 |
| +crythias | the conf is in WebGUI/etc | 00:27 |
| +crythias | but the index.pl tells you exactly which file | 00:28 |
| Jiggie | this is from anothe rbox testing | 00:29 |
| Jiggie | our ($webguiRoot, $configFile); | 00:29 |
| Jiggie | BEGIN { | 00:29 |
| Jiggie | $configFile = "WebGUI.conf"; | 00:29 |
| Jiggie | $webguiRoot = "/data/WebGUI"; | 00:29 |
| Jiggie | unshift (@INC, $webguiRoot."/lib"); | 00:29 |
| Jiggie | } | 00:29 |
| +crythias | right. | 00:29 |
| Jiggie | sorry wrong one | 00:29 |
| Jiggie | thats from a new envronemnt | 00:30 |
| Jiggie | backup | 00:30 |
| Jiggie | is this what i have to look for dsn = DBI:mysql:www_example_com | 00:32 |
| Jiggie | but intranet_invisioninc_com | 00:33 |
| +crythias | yeah. but explicitly the .conf that is specified in index.pl in your DocumentRoot | 00:33 |
| +crythias | since you haven't mentioned that to me, I'm not sure you're going to be further successful. | 00:33 |
| Jiggie | [root@JETS etc]# mysql -uroot -pcobalt intranet_invisioninc_com | 00:35 |
| Jiggie | ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: YES) | 00:35 |
| Jiggie | we dont know the password | 00:35 |
| Jiggie | is there a way to re-set it | 00:35 |
| Jiggie | i just put a dummy passowrd there | 00:35 |
| Jiggie | for this pourpose | 00:35 |
| +crythias | whew | 00:35 |
| +crythias | well wait. | 00:36 |
| +crythias | 1) did you find the .conf mentioned in index.pl? | 00:36 |
| +crythias | 2) did the .conf exist? | 00:36 |
| +crythias | 3) did you find the db connection string in that .conf? | 00:37 |
| Jiggie | yes yes yes | 00:38 |
| +crythias | wait | 00:39 |
| +crythias | that db connection string connects as root? | 00:39 |
| +crythias | btw ... gtg soon | 00:40 |
| Jiggie | ok | 00:40 |
| +crythias | does the db connection string connect -uroot? | 00:40 |
| +crythias | if the user is root, and you can get into mysql just by typing mysql, then the root user doesn't have a pwd | 00:42 |
| +crythias | although, it'd be pretty unsafe to do that, considering root users can drop dbs. | 00:42 |
| +crythias | I'm sorry. I can't wait until you respond ... I've got to head out. mysql -e "grant all privileges on www_<font size="3">example_com.* to webgui@localhost identified by 'password'"</font> | 00:45 |
| +crythias | and change your .conf appropriately. | 00:45 |
| +crythias | but don't do this verbatim. | 00:45 |
| Jiggie | yes | 00:47 |
| Jiggie | it works with root and no password | 00:47 |
| Jiggie | but I still get the error | 00:47 |
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| chee1 | where did all the documentation for webgui administrators? | 03:05 |
| chee1 | *go | 03:05 |
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| Radix-wrk | "I'm not chansen it" said luke___, as he saw xdanger get his Jiggie on. "Yikes!" | 09:39 |
| * Radix-wrk whistles innocently. | 09:40 | |
| xdanger | =P | 11:07 |
| Radix-wrk | okay.. so sue me.. you're all so quiet and I'm bored :) | 11:09 |
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| Jiggie | anyone | 17:01 |
| Jiggie | xdanger can u help me with mysql import on a windows box | 17:02 |
| Jiggie | using wre | 17:02 |
| Jiggie | anyone | 17:11 |
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| Jiggie | anyone | 18:14 |
| Jiggie | crythias | 18:14 |
| Jiggie | do you have some time :) | 18:14 |
| Jiggie | i cant use a mysql from 6.2 with wre :( crap | 18:16 |
| Jiggie | MySQL PID file could not be found! [FAILED] | 18:20 |
| Jiggie | anyone | 18:50 |
| Jiggie | what is a MySQL PID file | 18:53 |
| Jiggie | anyone | 20:08 |
| Jiggie | we are learning this webgui stiff | 20:08 |
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| Jiggie | ohh come one | 22:02 |
| Jiggie | i know i bother a lot | 22:02 |
| Jiggie | anyone' | 22:02 |
| +crythias | hi | 22:02 |
| Jiggie | hey | 22:02 |
| +crythias | what? | 22:02 |
| Jiggie | i have been going at this since yesterday | 22:02 |
| +crythias | 'kay | 22:03 |
| Jiggie | we have done almost everything on the community pages of plainblack | 22:03 |
| Jiggie | brains are burned out | 22:03 |
| +crythias | status? | 22:03 |
| Jiggie | we can run index.pl from command line | 22:04 |
| +crythias | what does that mean? | 22:05 |
| Jiggie | dont know | 22:05 |
| Jiggie | give me a sec let me start webgui again | 22:05 |
| Jiggie | we get this | 22:10 |
| Jiggie | Can't call method "prepare" on an undefined value at /data/WebGUI/lib/WebGUI/SQL.pm line 446. | 22:10 |
| +crythias | yeah | 22:10 |
| +crythias | which means that it can't log on. | 22:10 |
| Jiggie | so the problem is with the database? | 22:11 |
| Jiggie | i do this perl test.env.... and i get | 22:11 |
| +crythias | not as far as I have been able to tell from your limited information. | 22:11 |
| +crythias | the problem is username and password | 22:11 |
| Jiggie | lets get to the info you need | 22:12 |
| Jiggie | what would you like | 22:12 |
| +crythias | root access | 22:12 |
| Jiggie | lol | 22:12 |
| +crythias | if not that, gimme the index.pl's .conf line | 22:13 |
| Jiggie | ok | 22:17 |
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| +crythias | if you're going to take 4 minutes to respond to me each time, I don't believe I'll have the patience to converse in an otherwise | 22:19 |
| +crythias | real-time conversation. | 22:19 |
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| Jiggie | sorry about that | 22:19 |
| +crythias | use http://www.rafb.net/paste | 22:19 |
| +crythias | but don't put sensitive stuff... it's public | 22:20 |
| Jiggie | http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/2CNU7P15.html | 22:21 |
| Jiggie | it is ok... Our network is firewalled | 22:21 |
| +crythias | oh.. kay | 22:21 |
| +crythias | you're at 6.2.? | 22:22 |
| +crythias | dsn = DBI:mysql:www_example_com dbuser = webgui dbpass = password | 22:23 |
| +crythias | nm, just posting | 22:23 |
| +crythias | 9 is wrong, absolutely | 22:23 |
| Jiggie | yea | 22:23 |
| Jiggie | 6.2.11 but | 22:24 |
| +crythias | dsn=DBI:mysql:databasename | 22:24 |
| Jiggie | JT has us using the WRE also | 22:24 |
| +crythias | wonderful. | 22:24 |
| Jiggie | hahaha | 22:24 |
| +crythias | don't care | 22:24 |
| Jiggie | ok | 22:24 |
| +crythias | you can command line mysql | 22:24 |
| Jiggie | yes | 22:24 |
| +crythias | doing that, it gets you root with no password | 22:24 |
| +crythias | mysql[enter] | 22:25 |
| +crythias | mysql> | 22:25 |
| +crythias | yes? | 22:25 |
| Jiggie | [root@JETS WebGUI]# mysql | 22:25 |
| Jiggie | ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO) | 22:25 |
| Jiggie | [root@JETS WebGUI]# | 22:25 |
| +crythias | 'kay | 22:25 |
| Jiggie | I added a password this morning | 22:25 |
| +crythias | and you know it? | 22:25 |
| Jiggie | yea | 22:25 |
| Jiggie | [root@JETS WebGUI]# mysql -uroot -p | 22:26 |
| Jiggie | Enter password: | 22:26 |
| Jiggie | Welcome to the MySQL monitor. Commands end with ; or \g. | 22:26 |
| Jiggie | Your MySQL connection id is 2 to server version: 4.1.10-standard | 22:26 |
| Jiggie | Type 'help;' or '\h' for help. Type '\c' to clear the buffer. | 22:26 |
| Jiggie | mysql> | 22:26 |
| +crythias | show databases | 22:26 |
| Jiggie | ok | 22:26 |
| +crythias | ; | 22:26 |
| +crythias | don't care all | 22:26 |
| Jiggie | mysql> show databases; | 22:26 |
| Jiggie | +---------------------------+ | 22:26 |
| Jiggie | | Database | | 22:26 |
| Jiggie | +---------------------------+ | 22:26 |
| Jiggie | | intranet_invisioninc_com | | 22:26 |
| Jiggie | | mysql | | 22:26 |
| Jiggie | | oldintranet | | 22:26 |
| Jiggie | | oldportal_invisioninc_com | | 22:26 |
| Jiggie | | test | | 22:26 |
| Jiggie | | xplan | | 22:26 |
| Jiggie | | xplanner | | 22:27 |
| +crythias | 8 is correct, in your .conf | 22:27 |
| Jiggie | +---------------------------+ | 22:27 |
| Jiggie | 7 rows in set (0.05 sec) | 22:27 |
| Jiggie | aahhh | 22:27 |
| Jiggie | ok | 22:27 |
| +crythias | mysql -uroot -p intranet_invisioninc_com | 22:27 |
| +crythias | it should be the value of dbpass | 22:27 |
| Jiggie | [root@JETS WebGUI]# mysql -uroot -p intranet_invisioninc_com | 22:28 |
| Jiggie | Enter password: | 22:28 |
| Jiggie | Reading table information for completion of table and column names | 22:28 |
| Jiggie | You can turn off this feature to get a quicker startup with -A | 22:28 |
| Jiggie | Welcome to the MySQL monitor. Commands end with ; or \g. | 22:28 |
| Jiggie | Your MySQL connection id is 4 to server version: 4.1.10-standard | 22:28 |
| Jiggie | Type 'help;' or '\h' for help. Type '\c' to clear the buffer. | 22:28 |
| Jiggie | mysql> | 22:28 |
| +crythias | seems reasonable. | 22:28 |
| +crythias | this command line pwd is the same as 5? | 22:28 |
| Jiggie | yea | 22:28 |
| +crythias | did you recently upgrade perl? | 22:29 |
| Jiggie | nope | 22:29 |
| Jiggie | [root@JETS WebGUI]# perl --version | 22:29 |
| Jiggie | This is perl, v5.8.0 built for i386-linux-thread-multi | 22:29 |
| Jiggie | (with 1 registered patch, see perl -V for more detail) | 22:29 |
| +crythias | need you to create a file: | 22:30 |
| Jiggie | sure | 22:30 |
| +crythias | use DBI; my $dbh = DBI->connect('DBI:mysql:intranet_invisioninc_com', 'username', 'password')) or die "Couldn't connect to database: " . DBI->errstr; | 22:32 |
| +crythias | create that as dt.pl | 22:32 |
| Jiggie | ok | 22:32 |
| +crythias | perl dt.pl | 22:32 |
| +crythias | I guess I should add $dbh->disconnect; in there as well | 22:33 |
| Jiggie | [root@JETS WebGUI]# perl dt.pl | 22:35 |
| Jiggie | syntax error at dt.pl line 1, near ")) " | 22:35 |
| Jiggie | Execution of dt.pl aborted due to compilation errors. | 22:35 |
| Jiggie | [root@JETS WebGUI]# | 22:35 |
| +crythias | delete a ) | 22:37 |
| Jiggie | ok | 22:40 |
| Jiggie | sorry | 22:40 |
| Jiggie | i ran it and it didn't do anything | 22:40 |
| +crythias | it didn't diie | 22:40 |
| Jiggie | [root@JETS WebGUI]# vi dt.pl | 22:40 |
| Jiggie | [root@JETS WebGUI]# perl dt.pl | 22:40 |
| Jiggie | [root@JETS WebGUI]# | 22:40 |
| +crythias | yeah. | 22:41 |
| +crythias | this is good. | 22:41 |
| Jiggie | cool | 22:42 |
| +crythias | so now we check webgui.log | 22:42 |
| Jiggie | it is quite large | 22:48 |
| Jiggie | http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/fpUQJl93.html | 22:49 |
| Jiggie | here is the last 200 lines | 22:50 |
| +crythias | one moment. | 22:50 |
| Jiggie | ok | 22:50 |
| Jiggie | Thanks again... by the way | 22:50 |
| +crythias | ok.. | 22:50 |
| +crythias | Mon Jun 19 12:12:46 2006 /data/domains/intranet/intranet/public/index.pl FATAL: Couldn't write to the database: insert into userSession values ('73Wd.lxpdcako', 1150737166, 1150733566, 0, '127.0.0.1', '1') : Duplicate entry '73Wd.lxpdcako' for key 1 | 22:51 |
| +crythias | :) | 22:51 |
| +crythias | doesn't seem to be ... | 22:51 |
| +crythias | ok... people are editing | 22:54 |
| +crythias | or. were yesterday | 22:54 |
| Jiggie | yea | 22:55 |
| Jiggie | it went down during the middle of the day | 22:55 |
| +crythias | I don't know if I can help you. | 22:55 |
| +crythias | I'd try to check the status of my tables... | 22:55 |
| +crythias | first, I'd try to mysqldump the db | 22:56 |
| Jiggie | i did that yesterday just to be on the safe side | 22:57 |
| +crythias | mysqldump -uroot -p intranet_invisioninc_com >iic.sql | 22:57 |
| Jiggie | how do I check the status of my tables | 22:57 |
| +crythias | this is a backup | 22:58 |
| +crythias | sorry typing at the same time | 22:58 |
| Jiggie | ahh | 22:58 |
| Jiggie | np | 22:58 |
| +crythias | in the /var/db/mysql dir, what are the extensions per db | 22:59 |
| +crythias | specifically the iic db | 22:59 |
| Jiggie | there isn't anything in /var/db | 23:01 |
| +crythias | or. it might be /var/mysql.. it might be... I dunno. | 23:02 |
| +crythias | you should read this | 23:03 |
| +crythias | http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/4.1/en/table-maintenance.html | 23:03 |
| +crythias | although I don't know at this time... | 23:03 |
| Jiggie | awesome | 23:04 |
| +crythias | I have to get back to work here. I'm sorry I can't be much more of help. the long and short is that you aren't communicating with your database. I don't really know why, but if dbpass isn't the same as what you just changed, that'd be a problem. | 23:04 |
| Jiggie | ok | 23:04 |
| Jiggie | thanks for your help | 23:04 |
| +crythias | yw | 23:04 |
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| +perlDreamer | is anybody using FC5 with WebGUI? | 23:44 |
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| Jiggie | dont work | 00:06 |
| Jiggie | too many dependencies | 00:06 |
| Jiggie | spent almost a day getting all the perl module crap | 00:06 |
| Jiggie | out | 00:07 |
| +perlDreamer | I didn't have too many problems with it, but I updated perl over the weekend and now it seems like wG is just crawling. | 00:11 |
| +perlDreamer | For example, one test script that used to run in 30 seconds now takes over 15 minutes | 00:11 |
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| Radix-wrk | hi mindspin | 11:08 |
| mindspin | hi | 11:08 |
| mindspin | its a silent channel ;-) | 11:08 |
| Radix-wrk | I know.. I just spoilt it! | 11:08 |
| Radix-wrk | doh.. next time I'll be quieter. | 11:09 |
| mindspin | do you know wther its possible to run webGUI5.8x and 6.x smultaniously? | 11:09 |
| Radix-wrk | Hmm.. wouldn't be easy | 11:09 |
| Radix-wrk | they have different perl requirements | 11:09 |
| Radix-wrk | why not use a virtual machine setup instead? | 11:09 |
| mindspin | may be I'll try xen and let two servers at all run on one machine | 11:09 |
| mindspin | ;-) | 11:10 |
| mindspin | 5.8 runs rock solid and I dont wanna switch my users | 11:10 |
| Radix-wrk | You should be able to do it really.. but you'd need two setups of apache - each on different ports or something I guess | 11:10 |
| Radix-wrk | yeah, hard problem.. we had to do the same thing | 11:11 |
| Radix-wrk | we're on 6.8.10 now, but making the leap to 7 when its finalised is the same issue | 11:11 |
| mindspin | I#ll switch from 5 to 7 I guess | 11:11 |
| Radix-wrk | I'm using virtualpc atm to run through test upgrades to the 6.99.x betas | 11:11 |
| Radix-wrk | runs surprisingly speedy really | 11:12 |
| mindspin | I will replace my server with a new machine and so there is the time to make the right decisions towards the future ;-) | 11:12 |
| mindspin | But honestly I ignored most about webgui6 and so There's a lot to learn on my side | 11:13 |
| Radix-wrk | We had issues with the editor in webgui 5.8 - was driving us crazy with no firefox support. So we made the plunge and went for 6.8.x when it was released. | 11:18 |
| mindspin | are you working for plainblack? | 11:19 |
| Radix-wrk | nah.. just a user like you :) | 11:20 |
| mindspin | I c | 11:20 |
| mindspin | where are you from ? I'm from germany | 11:21 |
| Radix-wrk | perth, australia | 11:21 |
| mindspin | far away ;-) | 11:21 |
| Radix-wrk | yah :) | 11:21 |
| mindspin | If I will find time, I'm gonna try to build webgui-ubuntu packages | 11:22 |
| Radix-wrk | there's some debian packages already | 11:23 |
| mindspin | I know | 11:23 |
| Radix-wrk | I'm using debian myself | 11:23 |
| mindspin | but they differ slightly | 11:23 |
| mindspin | me to | 11:23 |
| mindspin | but I will try ubuntu-server because its more "up to date" | 11:23 |
| Radix-wrk | not had a chance to play with ubuntu yet - guess I should sometime | 11:24 |
| mindspin | and a webgui package would be nice, ebven to spread webgui | 11:24 |
| mindspin | its really cool for the desktop | 11:24 |
| Radix-wrk | I tried ubuntu 6.06 on my old desktop pc and it kept on locking up | 11:25 |
| mindspin | the final version or the beta? | 11:25 |
| Radix-wrk | Kinda dismissed it when that happened, haven't gone any further with it | 11:25 |
| Radix-wrk | final | 11:25 |
| mindspin | nvidia card? | 11:26 |
| Radix-wrk | radeon 9700 | 11:26 |
| mindspin | ati is difficult iirc | 11:26 |
| mindspin | but the 9700 should work | 11:26 |
| Radix-wrk | I would've thought so.. it gets to the desktop, I can do a few things then random freeze | 11:27 |
| Radix-wrk | was only booting off the cd, so no logs to see why | 11:27 |
| mindspin | strange | 11:27 |
| Radix-wrk | yah... I've been meaning to try it again, but not had time | 11:28 |
| mindspin | I have to work a bit.... seeya | 11:28 |
| Radix-wrk | yeah.. I'm off home too :) | 11:28 |
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| Jiggie | good morning people | 15:34 |
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| Jiggie | hey if i have webgui 6.2 and i now install wre, i wont be able to use the database? | 16:01 |
| +MrHairgrease | Jiggie | 16:06 |
| +MrHairgrease | i dunno | 16:06 |
| +MrHairgrease | does your db not work | 16:06 |
| +MrHairgrease | or are you asking if it would work? | 16:07 |
| +MrHairgrease | under the wre | 16:07 |
| Jiggie | the database was working and after a power outage webgui does not want to work anymore | 16:07 |
| Jiggie | i can connect to mysql and see the database and tables | 16:07 |
| Jiggie | but thats it | 16:07 |
| +MrHairgrease | hmm | 16:08 |
| Jiggie | also where does wre store the databases | 16:08 |
| +MrHairgrease | i dunno | 16:08 |
| +MrHairgrease | my guess is | 16:08 |
| Jiggie | we managed to "repair" some tales of the database and want to test using the wre | 16:08 |
| +MrHairgrease | under /data/var/mysql? | 16:08 |
| +MrHairgrease | or something like it | 16:08 |
| +MrHairgrease | afaik it should be in the /data tree somewhere | 16:09 |
| Jiggie | is it just me or instructins are lacking polishing | 16:09 |
| Jiggie | lets say i just installed wre on windows....and it works and i was able to log in and add an user | 16:10 |
| Jiggie | do i have to add a new site? | 16:10 |
| Jiggie | or i can just start working with that one... | 16:10 |
| Jiggie | if i had a database from another box -same version how can i use it on a new environment | 16:10 |
| +MrHairgrease | I have no idea | 16:10 |
| +MrHairgrease | i never used the wre | 16:11 |
| Jiggie | we are thinking of running dual server one for use and the other as a back up | 16:11 |
| Jiggie | we really depend on webgui for intranet info | 16:11 |
| Jiggie | and 2 days ago it broke | 16:11 |
| +MrHairgrease | i think you need replication | 16:11 |
| Jiggie | yep | 16:11 |
| +MrHairgrease | it should be very easy to set up in mysql | 16:11 |
| +MrHairgrease | like | 16:11 |
| +MrHairgrease | adding a few config directives | 16:11 |
| +MrHairgrease | google for it | 16:12 |
| +MrHairgrease | sry | 16:12 |
| +MrHairgrease | but gotta go afk | 16:12 |
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| Jiggie | i'll buy service from plainblack | 16:32 |
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| +crythias | hello | 21:24 |
| +crythias | javascript is fun | 21:24 |
| Jiggie | hey | 21:39 |
| Jiggie | crythias | 21:39 |
| +crythias | yeah | 21:39 |
| Jiggie | we got webgu up but its using old information | 21:39 |
| +crythias | ok. | 21:39 |
| Jiggie | everything seems to be pointing to the right place, but its using info form a year ago | 21:39 |
| Jiggie | weird | 21:39 |
| +crythias | sorry to hear that. | 21:40 |
| Jiggie | we are thinking of buying support... cause we can not loose any more time.....................but 5g's is kind of alot | 21:40 |
| +crythias | yeah for them to log on to their computer | 21:40 |
| +crythias | your computer | 21:40 |
| Jiggie | yep | 21:40 |
| +crythias | $500 ask as much via email | 21:40 |
| Jiggie | dont have more choices | 21:41 |
| +crythias | or $35/month and they host :) | 21:41 |
| Jiggie | we host this internal | 21:41 |
| +crythias | I recall. | 21:41 |
| Jiggie | i also downlaoded wre6.0 to install on another box, to run as a back up | 21:41 |
| Jiggie | but it cant start mod perl | 21:41 |
| +crythias | right. saw that. | 21:42 |
| Jiggie | and i read the error log and it tells me something virtual host :81 | 21:42 |
| +crythias | 'kay | 21:42 |
| +crythias | more info? | 21:44 |
| Jiggie | ok | 21:45 |
| +crythias | zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz | 21:47 |
| Jiggie | sorry | 21:47 |
| Jiggie | remoting to another box | 21:47 |
| +MrHairgrease | crythias: you should clean your keyboard | 21:48 |
| +MrHairgrease | espescially the lower-left part of it =) | 21:48 |
| Jiggie | hey crythias | 21:52 |
| +crythias | yeah | 21:52 |
| Jiggie | I fixed alot of problems with MYSQL | 21:53 |
| Jiggie | there were 2 instances | 21:53 |
| Jiggie | and alot of other issues | 21:53 |
| +crythias | oh? | 21:53 |
| Jiggie | now I am stuck on the sock file | 21:53 |
| +crythias | look for my.cnf ... everywhere | 21:54 |
| Jiggie | i did | 21:54 |
| Jiggie | i added: | 21:54 |
| Jiggie | socket=/data/wre/prereqs/mysql/var/mysql.sock | 21:54 |
| Jiggie | in every my.cnf | 21:54 |
| Jiggie | but when I type mysql | 21:55 |
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| Jiggie | it says: | 21:55 |
| Jiggie | [root@JETS root]# mysql | 21:55 |
| Jiggie | ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/tmp/mysql.sock' (111) | 21:55 |
| +crythias | yeah. | 21:55 |
| Jiggie | it is looking in the wrong place | 21:55 |
| +crythias | so mysqladmin -uroot -p shutdown | 21:55 |
| +crythias | or service mysql stop | 21:56 |
| +crythias | whatever is appropriate for your ... thing | 21:56 |
| Jiggie | ok | 21:56 |
| +crythias | and then start mysql again | 21:56 |
| +crythias | if it comes down to it, you may have to kill the process | 21:56 |
| Jiggie | [root@JETS root]# mysqladmin -uroot -p shutdown | 21:57 |
| Jiggie | Enter password: | 21:57 |
| Jiggie | mysqladmin: connect to server at 'localhost' failed | 21:57 |
| Jiggie | error: 'Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/tmp/mysql.sock' (111)' | 21:57 |
| Jiggie | Check that mysqld is running and that the socket: '/tmp/mysql.sock' exists! | 21:57 |
| +crythias | yeah. so far makes sense. | 21:57 |
| Jiggie | ok | 21:57 |
| +crythias | mysql isn't running | 21:57 |
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| Jiggie | i killed it manually with kill -9 | 21:58 |
| Jiggie | there were alot of mysqld processes running | 21:58 |
| +crythias | make sure all are gone | 21:59 |
| Jiggie | ok | 21:59 |
| Jiggie | i did | 21:59 |
| +crythias | now start mysq, | 21:59 |
| Jiggie | through the wre | 21:59 |
| Jiggie | or how | 21:59 |
| +crythias | don't know. don't care. but likely, yes | 22:00 |
| Jiggie | ok | 22:00 |
| +crythias | but ... | 22:00 |
| +crythias | you typing mysql will be the mysql in your PATH | 22:00 |
| +crythias | which mysql will tell you which one. | 22:00 |
| +crythias | if you're seeing /usr/local/mysql then you're using the wrong one. | 22:00 |
| Jiggie | [root@JETS root]# cd /data/wre/sbin/ | 22:01 |
| Jiggie | [root@JETS sbin]# ./rc.webgui start | 22:01 |
| Jiggie | MySQL Started | 22:01 |
| Jiggie | mod_perl Started | 22:01 |
| Jiggie | mod_proxy Started | 22:01 |
| Jiggie | [root@JETS sbin]# which mysql | 22:01 |
| Jiggie | /data/wre/prereqs/mysql/bin/mysql | 22:01 |
| Jiggie | [root@JETS sbin]# | 22:01 |
| +crythias | good | 22:01 |
| Jiggie | looks good so far | 22:01 |
| +crythias | spifftacular. | 22:01 |
| Jiggie | :) | 22:01 |
| Jiggie | but it stil won't connect | 22:01 |
| Jiggie | it is looking in tmp for the sock | 22:02 |
| +crythias | sigh | 22:02 |
| Jiggie | yea | 22:02 |
| +crythias | does the mysql.sock exist anywhere? | 22:03 |
| Jiggie | ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/tmp/mysql.sock' (111) | 22:03 |
| Jiggie | [root@JETS sbin]# find / -name mysql.sock | 22:03 |
| Jiggie | /tmp/mysql.sock | 22:03 |
| Jiggie | /var/lib/mysql/mysql.sock | 22:03 |
| Jiggie | /data/wre/prereqs/mysql/var/mysql.sock | 22:03 |
| +crythias | dates? | 22:03 |
| +crythias | ls -l /tmp/mysql.sock /var/lib/mysql/mysql.sock /data/wre/prereqs/mysql/var/mysql.sock | 22:04 |
| Jiggie | [root@JETS sbin]# ls -la /data/wre/prereqs/mysql/var/mysql.sock | 22:04 |
| Jiggie | srwxrwxrwx 1 mysql mysql 0 Jun 22 14:50 /data/wre/prereqs/mysql/var/mysql.sock | 22:04 |
| Jiggie | [root@JETS sbin]# ls -la /var/lib/mysql/mysql.sock | 22:04 |
| Jiggie | srwxrwxrwx 1 mysql mysql 0 Jun 22 13:57 /var/lib/mysql/mysql.sock | 22:04 |
| Jiggie | [root@JETS sbin]# ls -la /tmp/mysql.sock | 22:04 |
| Jiggie | srwxrwxrwx 1 mysql mysql 0 Jun 22 14:22 /tmp/mysql.sock | 22:04 |
| +crythias | and your date | 22:04 |
| Jiggie | [root@JETS sbin]# date | 22:05 |
| Jiggie | Thu Jun 22 14:54:42 EDT 2006 | 22:05 |
| +crythias | how many mysqls? | 22:05 |
| Jiggie | processes? | 22:05 |
| +crythias | yeah | 22:05 |
| +crythias | service mysqld stop | 22:06 |
| +crythias | I think. | 22:06 |
| Jiggie | mysql 1803 1776 0 14:50 pts/1 00:00:00 /data/wre/prereqs/mysql/libexec/mysqld --basedir=/data/wre/prereqs/mysql --datadir=/data/wre/prereqs/mysql/va | 22:06 |
| Jiggie | mysql 1804 1803 0 14:50 pts/1 00:00:00 /data/wre/prereqs/mysql/libexec/mysqld --basedir=/data/wre/prereqs/mysql --datadir=/data/wre/prereqs/mysql/va | 22:06 |
| Jiggie | mysql 1805 1804 0 14:50 pts/1 00:00:00 /data/wre/prereqs/mysql/libexec/mysqld --basedir=/data/wre/prereqs/mysql --datadir=/data/wre/prereqs/mysql/va | 22:06 |
| Jiggie | mysql 1806 1804 0 14:50 pts/1 00:00:00 /data/wre/prereqs/mysql/libexec/mysqld --basedir=/data/wre/prereqs/mysql --datadir=/data/wre/prereqs/mysql/va | 22:06 |
| Jiggie | mysql 1807 1804 0 14:50 pts/1 00:00:00 /data/wre/prereqs/mysql/libexec/mysqld --basedir=/data/wre/prereqs/mysql --datadir=/data/wre/prereqs/mysql/va | 22:06 |
| Jiggie | mysql 1808 1804 0 14:50 pts/1 00:00:00 /data/wre/prereqs/mysql/libexec/mysqld --basedir=/data/wre/prereqs/mysql --datadir=/data/wre/prereqs/mysql/va | 22:06 |
| Jiggie | mysql 1809 1804 0 14:50 pts/1 00:00:00 /data/wre/prereqs/mysql/libexec/mysqld --basedir=/data/wre/prereqs/mysql --datadir=/data/wre/prereqs/mysql/va | 22:06 |
| Jiggie | mysql 1810 1804 0 14:50 pts/1 00:00:00 /data/wre/prereqs/mysql/libexec/mysqld --basedir=/data/wre/prereqs/mysql --datadir=/data/wre/prereqs/mysql/va | 22:06 |
| Jiggie | mysql 1811 1804 0 14:50 pts/1 00:00:00 /data/wre/prereqs/mysql/libexec/mysqld --basedir=/data/wre/prereqs/mysql --datadir=/data/wre/prereqs/mysql/va | 22:06 |
| Jiggie | mysql 1812 1804 0 14:50 pts/1 00:00:00 /data/wre/prereqs/mysql/libexec/mysqld --basedir=/data/wre/prereqs/mysql --datadir=/data/wre/prereqs/mysql/va | 22:06 |
| +crythias | we need to a) stop all mysqls, b) find and rm all mysql.sock | 22:07 |
| +crythias | and I think that's service mysql stop | 22:07 |
| +crythias | or service mysqld stop | 22:07 |
| Jiggie | ok | 22:07 |
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| Jiggie | all are stopped | 22:08 |
| +crythias | find all mysql.socks | 22:09 |
| Jiggie | all mysql.sock are removed | 22:09 |
| +crythias | start webgui | 22:09 |
| Jiggie | [root@JETS sbin]# ./rc.webgui start | 22:10 |
| Jiggie | MySQL Started | 22:10 |
| Jiggie | mod_perl Started | 22:10 |
| Jiggie | mod_proxy Started | 22:10 |
| Jiggie | [root@JETS sbin]# find / -name mysql.sock | 22:10 |
| Jiggie | /data/wre/prereqs/mysql/var/mysql.sock | 22:10 |
| Jiggie | NJOW | 22:10 |
| Jiggie | [root@JETS sbin]# mysql | 22:10 |
| Jiggie | ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/tmp/mysql.sock' (2) | 22:10 |
| +crythias | fine | 22:10 |
| +crythias | symlink it | 22:10 |
| +crythias | ln -s | 22:10 |
| +crythias | ln -s /data/wre/prereqs/mysql/var/mysql.sock /tmp/mysql.sock | 22:10 |
| +crythias | for now, it should work. | 22:11 |
| +crythias | but it's a problem with a config | 22:11 |
| Jiggie | ok I did | 22:12 |
| Jiggie | [root@JETS sbin]# find / -name mysql.sock | 22:13 |
| Jiggie | /tmp/mysql.sock | 22:13 |
| Jiggie | /data/wre/prereqs/mysql/var/mysql.sock | 22:13 |
| Jiggie | That worked | 22:13 |
| +crythias | nah | 22:13 |
| Jiggie | it keeps bring up My old DB | 22:16 |
| +crythias | yeah | 22:16 |
| +crythias | then I'd check for your locations of the dbname. | 22:16 |
| Jiggie | How can I check to see what DB it is using | 22:17 |
| Jiggie | and what Config | 22:17 |
| Jiggie | Thanks again | 22:17 |
| +crythias | wre/webgui/etc/*.conf | 22:17 |
| Jiggie | ok | 22:17 |
| +crythias | anything that's not log4perl | 22:17 |
| +crythias | and then the DBI tells your what db | 22:17 |
| +crythias | and then ... well. and then, you're seeing the connection to the db in wre/prereqs/mysql/var/dbs | 22:19 |
| +crythias | although your current data might be in /var/dbs | 22:19 |
| +crythias | which means you need to find out your databasename and find / -name databasename | 22:19 |
| Jiggie | [root@JETS etc]# pwd | 22:20 |
| Jiggie | /data/wre/etc | 22:20 |
| Jiggie | [root@JETS etc]# ls -la | 22:20 |
| Jiggie | total 88 | 22:20 |
| Jiggie | drwxr-xr-x 2 awilson webgui 4096 Oct 26 2005 . | 22:20 |
| Jiggie | drwxr-xr-x 8 awilson webgui 4096 Jun 3 2005 .. | 22:20 |
| Jiggie | -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 58351 Oct 26 2005 awstats.intranet.conf | 22:20 |
| Jiggie | -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 126 Jul 29 2005 intranet.modperl | 22:20 |
| Jiggie | -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 730 Aug 3 2005 intranet.modproxy | 22:20 |
| Jiggie | -rwxr-xr-x 1 awilson webgui 1142 Jul 29 2005 logrotate.conf | 22:20 |
| Jiggie | -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 128 Jul 29 2005 stats.modproxy | 22:20 |
| Jiggie | that is under etc | 22:20 |
| +crythias | grep DBI * | 22:21 |
| Jiggie | but there is a dir here is the conf files | 22:21 |
| Jiggie | [root@JETS etc]# pwd | 22:21 |
| Jiggie | /data/WebGUI/etc | 22:21 |
| Jiggie | [root@JETS etc]# ls -la | 22:21 |
| Jiggie | total 10848 | 22:21 |
| Jiggie | drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Jun 21 17:56 . | 22:21 |
| Jiggie | drwxr-xr-x 7 root root 4096 Jun 21 15:29 .. | 22:21 |
| Jiggie | -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 11059200 Jul 27 2005 data.sql | 22:21 |
| Jiggie | -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1773 Jun 21 17:56 intranet.conf | 22:21 |
| Jiggie | -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1729 Oct 27 2005 intranet.conf.bak | 22:21 |
| Jiggie | -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1898 Jun 21 13:12 intranet.invisioninc.com.conf | 22:21 |
| Jiggie | -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1803 Oct 27 2005 intranet.invisioninc.com.conf.bak | 22:21 |
| Jiggie | -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1743 Mar 14 2005 oldportal.invisioninc.com.conf.bak | 22:21 |
| Jiggie | -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1842 Jan 28 2005 WebGUI.conf.original | 22:21 |
| +crythias | grep DBI intranet.invisioninc.com.conf | 22:22 |
| +crythias | or intranet.conf | 22:22 |
| +crythias | I can't continue. | 22:22 |
| Jiggie | ok | 22:22 |
| Jiggie | Thanks | 22:23 |
| +crythias | look. you got your db backed up, right? | 22:23 |
| Jiggie | yea | 22:23 |
| +crythias | do it now, again. | 22:23 |
| Jiggie | ok I will | 22:23 |
| +crythias | mysqldump -a -uroot -p > 062206data.sql | 22:23 |
| +crythias | then mysql -uroot -p | 22:24 |
| +crythias | then drop the database that's ref'd by the DBI of the .conf | 22:24 |
| +crythias | (only after you're SURE you've got a backup) | 22:24 |
| Jiggie | haha yea | 22:25 |
| +crythias | then mysql -uroot -p <invisionbackup.sql | 22:25 |
| +crythias | you may have to create the db first | 22:26 |
| +crythias | mysql -uroot -p | 22:26 |
| Jiggie | ok | 22:27 |
| +crythias | create database invision_database_name | 22:27 |
| +crythias | quit | 22:27 |
| +crythias | mysql -u root -p invision_database_name <invistionbackup.sql | 22:27 |
| +crythias | if you're paranoid, tar your prereqs/mysql/var/dbs first | 22:28 |
| +crythias | tar czvf mydbs.tar.gz /data/wre/prereqs/mysql/var/dbs | 22:29 |
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| Jiggie | thanks | 22:30 |
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| +crythias | is it party time? | 00:30 |
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| tamray | I have a friend who wants to start a blog. Is WebGUI a good source for this, so he can eliminate being part of a big blog community? | 05:17 |
| chee1 | tamray: have you tried the demo? | 05:17 |
| tamray | Does that mean WebGUI has a blog feature? I haven't had reason to look. | 05:18 |
| chee1 | tamray: it has a "collaboration" thingy ma-bob for a simple blog, webgui might be overkill, but it's up to you | 05:20 |
| tamray | Thanks. That is what he needs, so he has full control of things. | 05:20 |
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| chee1 | so how do you commit changes in 6.99.4? | 05:43 |
| chee1 | i.e. get rid of all the locks | 05:55 |
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| bipolar | Hey guys | 22:31 |
| bipolar | I'm trying to use ProxyPath statements in apache2 to proxy http://www.mysite.com:2000 from http://www.mysite.com/custom. the root of my web site is run by webgui. | 22:32 |
| bipolar | it seems that no matter what I do, webgui stays in control of /custom. | 22:33 |
| bipolar | is there something I'm doing wrong or is what I'm trying to do not possible? | 22:33 |
| +crythias | passthruUrl in webgui.conf | 23:39 |
| +crythias | gtg | 23:39 |
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| walaki | hi folks | 15:25 |
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| lenthame1 | crythias ? | 17:57 |
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| +crythias | hi | 21:25 |
| cheecheeo | hello | 21:34 |
| cheecheeo | so how can i create new content?, every time i make a change, nothing happens | 23:51 |
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| xdanger | cheecheeo: using the 6.99.x ? you have to commit your changes... | 00:20 |
| cheecheeo | i am, there's gotta be something wrong with my install, everything i do works fine on the demo, and won't work on my system | 00:21 |
| xdanger | you do commit the changes? | 00:21 |
| xdanger | do you have spectre running? | 00:21 |
| cheecheeo | yeah | 00:22 |
| xdanger | that's weird.. | 00:22 |
| cheecheeo | indeed | 00:22 |
| xdanger | sounds like you don't have spectre running... | 00:22 |
| xdanger | try perl spectre.pl --ping in sbin directory | 00:23 |
| xdanger | to make sure it's operating correctly | 00:23 |
| xdanger | or start it with --verbose | 00:23 |
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| walaki | hello | 00:28 |
| walaki | anbody here? | 00:29 |
| cheecheeo | walaki: yeah | 00:31 |
| walaki | you are waiting for the gurus too or you are one of them? | 00:32 |
| cheecheeo | i'm just here, not really waiting and not ready to say i'm a gurur | 00:33 |
| cheecheeo | *guru | 00:33 |
| cheecheeo | why don't you just ask your question and see what happens? | 00:34 |
| xdanger | I'm partly here ;) | 00:34 |
| xdanger | but have to go to sleep soon | 00:34 |
| walaki | ok, so I am asked the following questions | 00:34 |
| walaki | Methods for automatic close of session? | 00:35 |
| walaki | What are the relevant difference between WebGUI version 5 vs. WebGUI version 7? | 00:35 |
| xdanger | I haven't used v5 much... only tested it like 20minutes.. | 00:37 |
| xdanger | 2 years ago ;) | 00:37 |
| xdanger | atomatic close of session? do you mean in code (macro or asset) or in general? | 00:38 |
| walaki | I made an examing thingy and to prevent cheating with back button I log out the user after sending the answers | 00:49 |
| walaki | I made it using : WebGUI::Auth->logout; | 00:50 |
| walaki | in the code | 00:50 |
| walaki | so the question is pretty much every method worth mentioning | 00:51 |
| walaki | xdanger: tx for the effort, I have to go, good night to you. | 01:09 |
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| cheecheeo | okay, when i commit changes how long does it take on average? | 03:00 |
| +crythias | immediately. | 03:23 |
| +crythias | but cache-ing may say otherwise | 03:23 |
| cheecheeo | okay | 03:24 |
| +crythias | but ... you were part of that thread. | 03:24 |
| +crythias | http://www.plainblack.com/webgui/dev/discuss/caching-probs#2YdDgxYJpastahjZhzIlPg | 03:25 |
| cheecheeo | yeah, i have this install of webgui, and everytime i create a new site, i everything under root > home is locked, i say to commit changes and nothing happens, on a install of the site I changed a bunch of stuff so it seems like webgui is keeping a whole bunch of changes that I made, but not letting me make any commits, it's boggling my mind. | 03:27 |
| +crythias | version? | 03:27 |
| cheecheeo | 6.99.5 | 03:28 |
| +crythias | ok. then perhaps spectre's not running? | 03:28 |
| cheecheeo | i'll look into that, does spectre do interaction with the database? | 03:30 |
| +crythias | yeah | 03:30 |
| +crythias | it's the brains | 03:30 |
| +crythias | everything WG does is handed off to spectre to handle. | 03:31 |
| cheecheeo | fudge | 03:31 |
| +crythias | 'kay... | 03:31 |
| cheecheeo | i'm using the WRE and it has some pretty bad passing around of unquoted input, in particular when it interacts with the database, and I'm thinking if spectre does the same thing it could be why my system isn't working | 03:33 |
| cheecheeo | dinner time, bbiab | 03:38 |
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| Radix-wrk | heh.. 370000 active sessions on our site | 05:36 |
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| cheecheeo | could someone explain spectreSubnets to me? | 02:04 |
| +perlDreamer | what don't you understand? | 02:17 |
| cheecheeo | I'm wondering what they are. | 02:17 |
| +perlDreamer | spectreSubnets says which IP addresses WebGUI and spectre should expect to listen to | 02:17 |
| +perlDreamer | It's a security feature | 02:18 |
| +perlDreamer | neither will listen to requests from illegal IP addresses | 02:18 |
| cheecheeo | okay, so the default spectreSubnets seem to be 127.0.0.1/32, isn't that everything? | 02:25 |
| +perlDreamer | I thought it was only localhost | 02:25 |
| +perlDreamer | 127.0.0.1/32 is 127.0.0.1 with 32 unmasked bits? | 02:26 |
| cheecheeo | right | 02:26 |
| cheecheeo | so spectre only listens to localhost for requests? | 02:27 |
| +perlDreamer | well, technically spectre gets told to camp out on localhost, and webgui will listen to localhost | 02:27 |
| cheecheeo | is that why there's a list of 2 different IP adresses in the .conf file? | 02:30 |
| +perlDreamer | spectreIp says which IP address webGUI should use to talk back to spectre | 02:30 |
| cheecheeo | okay | 02:31 |
| cheecheeo | I think I'm getting somewhere now. | 02:31 |
| +perlDreamer | are you getting commits now? | 02:35 |
| cheecheeo | yeah, new changes are happening, but I'm still having those lock from previous installs | 02:37 |
| +perlDreamer | previous installs? | 02:38 |
| +perlDreamer | didn't you wipe the database after each install? | 02:38 |
| cheecheeo | yeah, in detail, i ran the removesite script, which seems to do a drop of the database and rm -rf /data | 02:39 |
| cheecheeo | it's still there, though :-/ | 02:39 |
| +perlDreamer | do you know how to double check the drop manually? | 02:40 |
| cheecheeo | i just did a show databases in mysql and it didn't have the database, and /var/lib/mysql didn't have it either so I figured I was safe, is there something else I need to check for? | 02:41 |
| +perlDreamer | well... | 02:42 |
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| +perlDreamer | so after you removesite, and create the site again, the same commits are pending? | 02:42 |
| +perlDreamer | hey, crythias! | 02:43 |
| +crythias | howDY | 02:43 |
| +perlDreamer | how spectre knowledgeable are you? | 02:43 |
| +crythias | chu chu chu cheeo | 02:43 |
| +crythias | :) | 02:43 |
| +crythias | left a message on the boards | 02:43 |
| +crythias | already dealt with this error for someone else | 02:43 |
| cheecheeo | perlDreamer: not really pending, just locked and there's no "commit changes" link for me to click ;-( | 02:44 |
| +crythias | or ... another question is pending? | 02:44 |
| +perlDreamer | hmmm... try explaining to crythias what you're seeing. | 02:44 |
| +perlDreamer | He holds a doctorate in WebGUI diagnostics | 02:44 |
| +crythias | non-accredited, of course. | 02:44 |
| cheecheeo | well first off, spectre starts fine with no errors, any changes i make, actually happen | 02:45 |
| * crythias scratches his head. and what should I fix? | 02:45 | |
| +perlDreamer | crythias: wait, there's more! | 02:45 |
| cheecheeo | But, I have a whole bunch of locked pages after a new install that I can't commit | 02:45 |
| +crythias | ?? | 02:46 |
| +perlDreamer | and you said the locked pages are from a _previous_ install...? | 02:46 |
| cheecheeo | it _seems_ as if they're changes from a previous install leftover from somewhere | 02:46 |
| +crythias | 'kay... | 02:46 |
| +perlDreamer | they aren't default WebGUI pages, are they? | 02:46 |
| +crythias | spectre must have a queue somwhere? | 02:46 |
| cheecheeo | nope not according to my attempts with the demo | 02:46 |
| cheecheeo | when i click on the gold lock, i get a list of committed versions, there's only one and it's the "initial import" | 02:47 |
| cheecheeo | is there a way I can just manually unlock these bad boys? | 02:47 |
| +crythias | ok. how do you know there are locks? | 02:47 |
| +perlDreamer | either in the asset or assetData tables there will be a column called "status". | 02:48 |
| +perlDreamer | cheecheeo: are you doing this as Admin? | 02:49 |
| cheecheeo | crythias: admin console > assets > Home there's a gold lock next to it | 02:49 |
| cheecheeo | perlDreamer: looking at the tables now, and yes | 02:49 |
| +crythias | not sure | 02:50 |
| +perlDreamer | cheecheeo: In the Admin Console, under Manage Versions there should be a way to list all active version tags, as well as committed versions. Check there. | 02:51 |
| +crythias | phantom locks would be something that should be checked... | 02:51 |
| +perlDreamer | I skimmed the spectre code and I don't see any caching. | 02:51 |
| +perlDreamer | crythias: I agree. But how to reproduce? | 02:51 |
| +crythias | also... I got to report a bug | 02:51 |
| +perlDreamer | better now than Thursday :) | 02:52 |
| +perlDreamer | what is it? | 02:52 |
| +crythias | /home is a pain in the butt | 02:52 |
| +perlDreamer | I know | 02:52 |
| +crythias | it shouldn't exist | 02:52 |
| +perlDreamer | all that vaccuuming, mowing, moping. | 02:52 |
| +crythias | heh | 02:52 |
| +perlDreamer | you can remove /home | 02:52 |
| +crythias | it's a pain. | 02:52 |
| +perlDreamer | just name your homepage index.html | 02:53 |
| +crythias | no | 02:53 |
| +perlDreamer | yes | 02:53 |
| +crythias | the demo is a pain | 02:53 |
| * perlDreamer is confused between home and demo | 02:53 | |
| +crythias | ok. you add a new page layout on the demo's home page. all well and good. | 02:53 |
| cheecheeo | hmm | 02:54 |
| +crythias | but if you click the webgui demo name... upper left corner.. you get taken to /home | 02:54 |
| cheecheeo | mysql> select * from assetData where status!="approved"; | 02:54 |
| cheecheeo | Empty set (0.00 sec) | 02:54 |
| +crythias | I was showing this to a coworker and the new page didn't show up | 02:54 |
| +crythias | but clicking "Getting Started" shows the page in the nav | 02:54 |
| +perlDreamer | crythias: weird | 02:55 |
| +crythias | the heck? | 02:55 |
| +crythias | and... ie doesn't do the demo well. | 02:55 |
| +crythias | at least... it didn't for my coworker behind firewall | 02:55 |
| +perlDreamer | gotta head for home. I might be back on later tonight, guys. | 02:56 |
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| cheecheeo | okay, there are no entries in the database where an assetId is not approved or asset that is unpublished. and I still have these locks | 03:02 |
| cheecheeo | wait. nevermind | 03:03 |
| cheecheeo | chao folks | 04:02 |
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| Radix-wrk | anyone awake? | 07:05 |
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| Radix-wrk | hey crythias | 07:44 |
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| jose | hello buddies | 18:10 |
| jose | are you active? | 18:10 |
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| jose___ | rc.webgui start: mysql started, enter your sudo password.. | 18:39 |
| jose___ | WTF? | 18:39 |
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| jose___ | lo | 19:11 |
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| +perlDreamer | luke__: Are you awake? | 19:12 |
| jose___ | hi guys, rc.webgui start asks for a sudo password | 19:19 |
| jose___ | but i have no idea what that is supposed to be | 19:19 |
| jose___ | != superuser password as i found out | 19:19 |
| +perlDreamer | when you're prompted for a sudo password, it's asking you for __your__ password, not root's | 19:39 |
| +crythias | heya | 19:57 |
| jose___ | elo folks | 19:57 |
| jose___ | i think the password was after all accepted. then the problem w/ mod_perl came | 19:57 |
| +crythias | heh | 19:58 |
| jose___ | so i decided to run build.sh one more time | 19:58 |
| jose___ | time hungry process even on a 3000 processor | 19:59 |
| jose___ | anyways in error log there was a note about log/log4perl.pm that could not be located | 20:01 |
| jose___ | and /data/WebGUI/sbin/preload.perl for server blablabla:0 either | 20:01 |
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| * crythias isn't a fan of WRE | 20:05 | |
| jose___ | hmm, well.. /me is a beginner | 20:07 |
| +crythias | if log/log4perl.pm can't be located, it was a problem with build.sh | 20:07 |
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| cheecheeo | perlDreamer: I use-tested that new module you put up on the church website, I didn't find any bugs, is there any other testing you'd like done? | 20:10 |
| jose___ | hmm, i see.. well i had a problem the first run (lftp could not be located even it is present on the system) but the 2nd run seems to be fine now | 20:10 |
| jose___ | and now it failed again - ltdl/.libs/ltdl.o: no such file or directory, erro 1, iamge magick make did not complete successfully | 20:15 |
| jose___ | guess i should install it first | 20:15 |
| jose___ | should i delete wre after each build failure? | 20:38 |
| cheecheeo | jose___: IMHO, yes | 20:38 |
| jose___ | ouch.. thats gonna hurt | 20:39 |
| jose___ | fine then | 20:39 |
| cheecheeo | jose___: the first time you build the WRE you'll probably 5 or 6 of those errors because you haven't installed the dependencies, there used to be a list of the WRE dependencies floating around somewhere though | 20:42 |
| +perlDreamer | cheecheeo: no, and thanks for the tests. The wG 7.0 version will be much more featureful and GPL'ed | 20:44 |
| jose___ | welll.. i guess everything 'cept for imagemagick was already in | 20:44 |
| cheecheeo | perlDreamer: no problem, can't wait to see it | 20:45 |
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| jose___ | do i want sasl module? | 21:26 |
| jose___ | says it is optional | 21:26 |
| +perlDreamer | are you going to do encrypted web pages? | 21:26 |
| jose___ | maybe later, yes | 21:26 |
| +perlDreamer | then install it | 21:26 |
| jose___ | gssapi? | 21:27 |
| +perlDreamer | gesundheit | 21:27 |
| jose___ | health? | 21:28 |
| +perlDreamer | bad pun. I don't know what gssapi is for | 21:28 |
| +crythias | gssapi ... dyslexic asthmatics? | 21:44 |
| cheecheeo | dependencies for libsasl2 on Debian: | 21:46 |
| cheecheeo | libgssapi-dev - header files and docs for libgssapi | 21:46 |
| cheecheeo | libgssapi1 - A mechanism-switch gssapi library | 21:46 |
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| jose___ | do i want xml:saax to alter parserdetails.ini? | 22:17 |
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| walaki | hi | 22:20 |
| jose___ | said yes | 22:23 |
| jose___ | walaki: hi | 22:23 |
| jose___ | WRE ERROR: libapreq2 make did not complete successfully | 22:31 |
| cheecheeo | jose___: you'll have to post more than that | 22:34 |
| cheecheeo | *pase | 22:34 |
| cheecheeo | *paste | 22:34 |
| jose___ | false | 22:36 |
| jose___ | makefile error 1 | 22:36 |
| jose___ | leaving dir /..glue/perl | 22:36 |
| jose___ | error 2 | 22:36 |
| jose___ | leaving dir ../glue | 22:36 |
| jose___ | not very verbose i tell you | 22:36 |
| +perlDreamer | go into the perl directory and type make to see the actual error | 22:37 |
| walaki | bye all | 22:39 |
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| jose___ | the compilation went fine in this case | 22:40 |
| jose___ | in wrebuild/source/perl/modules/liapreq.. | 22:41 |
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| wouter_procolix | Hi all :) | 23:09 |
| +perlDreamer | hey, wouter! | 23:09 |
| wouter_procolix | A (hopefully) short question: | 23:09 |
| wouter_procolix | since the cache settings per asset are gone.... | 23:09 |
| wouter_procolix | How do I disable the cache for one page? | 23:09 |
| +perlDreamer | Off the top of my head, I don't know | 23:10 |
| wouter_procolix | I made a Search macro, but after the first query it always returns the same results :( | 23:10 |
| +perlDreamer | but JT may have discussed it on the dev list a while ago | 23:10 |
| +perlDreamer | when the he first proposed the topic | 23:10 |
| wouter_procolix | Hmm, then I'll check my mailbox... Can't remember though. | 23:10 |
| +perlDreamer | wouldn't you need to disable caching anywhere that your macro was used? | 23:11 |
| +perlDreamer | that won't be easy | 23:11 |
| wouter_procolix | Yes, preferably in the Macro itself, but since it's only one page, and only a temporary solution (until the search functionality of WebGUI 7 works fine), it's not a big deal to disable the cache for that page. | 23:12 |
| wouter_procolix | In WebGUI 6.8.x it works just fine. | 23:12 |
| +perlDreamer | what's wrong with the wG 7 search? | 23:12 |
| wouter_procolix | As far as I know it doesn't work. | 23:14 |
| wouter_procolix | That's what I heard, from different people.. | 23:14 |
| +perlDreamer | I've seen people posting bugs about it, that it displays objects that are deleted, but aside from that it's supposed to work. | 23:14 |
| wouter_procolix | And there are some clients of us running WG6.8.x who can't wait until WG7. | 23:15 |
| +perlDreamer | I see | 23:15 |
| wouter_procolix | I haven't tried it yet, I should do that soon :) | 23:15 |
| wouter_procolix | By the way, perlDreamer == Colin ? | 23:15 |
| +perlDreamer | yes | 23:15 |
| +perlDreamer | it's me | 23:15 |
| wouter_procolix | About your call for docs.... | 23:16 |
| wouter_procolix | I had on my list (but no time yet) to clarify the explanations of "Start Month" and "End Month" in the EventsCalendar. | 23:16 |
| +perlDreamer | I can take a look at that | 23:16 |
| wouter_procolix | It took me a while to figure out what all the options were. It's a little bit confusing if you're not familiar with it. | 23:16 |
| +perlDreamer | yeah, very | 23:16 |
| +perlDreamer | I'll add it to my TODO list | 23:17 |
| wouter_procolix | Because it really is more of a restriction, a filter so to say... | 23:17 |
| wouter_procolix | Not really where the calendar will start. | 23:17 |
| wouter_procolix | Okay, thanks. | 23:17 |
| wouter_procolix | I also added a "owner" variable a while ago. | 23:17 |
| +perlDreamer | to the calendar? | 23:17 |
| wouter_procolix | Maybe you can check if I explained the meaning of that good enough. | 23:17 |
| wouter_procolix | Yes. | 23:17 |
| +perlDreamer | I'll have a good look at it, then. | 23:17 |
| wouter_procolix | So you can do something like <span class="<tmpl_var owner>">.... </span> | 23:18 |
| wouter_procolix | We have different colors for different people :) | 23:18 |
| wouter_procolix | It's pretty ugly at the moment (our Intranet calender), but usefull nevertheless ;-) | 23:18 |
| wouter_procolix | Oh, about the caching: | 23:19 |
| wouter_procolix | I think it's possible to control or disable caching for wobjects. | 23:19 |
| wouter_procolix | But it's more difficult to do it for individual pages or macro's. | 23:19 |
| +perlDreamer | but not impossible? | 23:20 |
| wouter_procolix | I hope not... | 23:20 |
| +perlDreamer | ;) | 23:20 |
| wouter_procolix | In the worst case it might require a major hack in the way caching is processed now. | 23:20 |
| wouter_procolix | Well, I'll re-read the old mails, maybe I'll find some usefull comments in it. | 23:21 |
| wouter_procolix | Thanks for your help. | 23:21 |
| +perlDreamer | you're welcome | 23:21 |
| wouter_procolix | okay, bye bye | 23:21 |
| +perlDreamer | bye | 23:21 |
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| ckotil | hey i was the one blowing up the boards today about group inheritance. i simply cannot get it to work. | 01:25 |
| +perlDreamer | which version of wG are you using? | 01:34 |
| ckotil | 6.99.5 | 01:35 |
| +perlDreamer | group inheritance works in 6.99.5 | 01:35 |
| +perlDreamer | it's been very extensively tested | 01:35 |
| ckotil | in my latest post i setup a demo site. | 01:35 |
| ckotil | yeah. i understand i must be doing something wrong. | 01:35 |
| +perlDreamer | so by no access you mean your users can't see the page or is it some other action? | 01:36 |
| ckotil | do you have time to take a look at the demo site and see what im doing wrong? perhaps setup an example of group inheritance | 01:36 |
| ckotil | my users cant see the page | 01:37 |
| ckotil | unless they are explicitly in the group | 01:37 |
| +perlDreamer | I have some time, so let's try a compromise | 01:37 |
| +perlDreamer | 1) Set up 5 users named one, two, three, four and five | 01:37 |
| +perlDreamer | 2) set up 3 groups, leaf, branch, tree | 01:37 |
| +perlDreamer | 3) make branch be a member of tree | 01:37 |
| +perlDreamer | 4) make leaf be a member of branch | 01:38 |
| +perlDreamer | add user one to branch | 01:38 |
| +perlDreamer | add user two to leaf | 01:38 |
| +perlDreamer | and user three to tree | 01:38 |
| +perlDreamer | leave users four and five alone | 01:38 |
| +perlDreamer | create a page with 3 articles, 1 article for each group to view. | 01:38 |
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| +perlDreamer | each article should say something like "Hi leaf" or "Hi branch" or "Hi tree". | 01:39 |
| +perlDreamer | and have appropriate groupToView settings | 01:39 |
| +perlDreamer | each test user should have a password that is the same as his user name | 01:40 |
| ckotil | k , users and groups are created. now til populate the gruops | 01:40 |
| ckotil | http://demo.plainblack.com/demo1151527769_30/home is wehre im working btw | 01:40 |
| ckotil | Admin/123qwe | 01:40 |
| ckotil | done | 01:44 |
| +perlDreamer | which page has the three articles? | 01:45 |
| ckotil | group inheritance | 01:45 |
| ckotil | top menu all the way to the right | 01:45 |
| +perlDreamer | and you set up the group hierarchy? | 01:49 |
| +perlDreamer | because I'm not seeing them | 01:49 |
| +perlDreamer | I'm looking at branch, and it says it has no member groups | 01:49 |
| ckotil | i didnt , sorry, ill do it now | 01:50 |
| +perlDreamer | that should make a big difference :) | 01:50 |
| ckotil | ;] | 01:51 |
| +perlDreamer | let me know when you're ready | 01:51 |
| ckotil | ready | 01:52 |
| ckotil | its setup. | 01:52 |
| ckotil | it works . | 01:52 |
| +perlDreamer | cool! | 01:52 |
| ckotil | i apreciate it | 01:52 |
| +perlDreamer | no problem. | 01:52 |
| ckotil | i hope i can replicate this on my webgui install | 01:52 |
| +perlDreamer | shouldn't be too hard | 01:52 |
| ckotil | tho this is how i understood it to work | 01:52 |
| ckotil | ya | 01:53 |
| +perlDreamer | but I think you found a bug | 01:53 |
| +perlDreamer | I see two admin entries under branch | 01:53 |
| +perlDreamer | go file it as a bug, and get 10 karma | 01:53 |
| ckotil | Admin gets added in by default to every new group. | 01:53 |
| ckotil | killer. | 01:53 |
| +perlDreamer | right, but only once | 01:53 |
| ckotil | will do. | 01:53 |
| ckotil | heh i made dinner while doing all this just now | 01:53 |
| ckotil | made fish and salad | 01:53 |
| +perlDreamer | once you get it, wG is supposed to be easy | 01:54 |
| +perlDreamer | and for the most part it is | 01:54 |
| +perlDreamer | it's getting up the learning curve that's hard | 01:54 |
| +perlDreamer | it's a big, complex, powerful system | 01:54 |
| ckotil | im just setting up the site structure right now. im waiting on our web designer to deliver the site design.then the real fun starts. when i try to turn her design into a webgui template | 01:54 |
| ckotil | im loving it so far | 01:55 |
| ckotil | i used mambo/joomla in the past | 01:55 |
| ckotil | and its gruop access control was.... limited | 01:55 |
| +perlDreamer | is that why you switched? | 01:55 |
| ckotil | yes. had to | 01:55 |
| ckotil | i work for indiana university and the global research NOC | 01:55 |
| ckotil | http://globalnoc.iu.edu | 01:55 |
| ckotil | redesigning these pages. consolidating them into one system | 01:56 |
| ckotil | and webgui fit the mold | 01:56 |
| +perlDreamer | cool | 01:56 |
| ckotil | im going to put an order in for web gui done right soon | 01:56 |
| ckotil | may even attend the Vegas conference | 01:57 |
| +perlDreamer | I'd highly recommend the conference. | 01:57 |
| +perlDreamer | and not only because I'll be speaking there. | 01:57 |
| +perlDreamer | it's a very cost effective way to get trained on the whole system. | 01:57 |
| ckotil | ah. excellent | 01:58 |
| +crythias | sigh | 01:58 |
| +crythias | I'm sorry I've not been as helpful as I could have ben. | 01:58 |
| +perlDreamer | it's okay, ben understands | 01:58 |
| +crythias | heh | 01:58 |
| +crythias | that ben. | 01:59 |
| +crythias | I feel for the people who have been installing reqs on their own. | 01:59 |
| +crythias | I've done it on several systems, and it's just one after another... | 02:00 |
| ckotil | is that for systems that you guys manage? | 02:00 |
| +crythias | Not on my side. I just help people get installed. I don't work for plainblack. | 02:01 |
| ckotil | ah nice. | 02:01 |
| ckotil | i like the idea behind there business model. | 02:01 |
| ckotil | very innovative | 02:01 |
| +crythias | it's not as if it's impossible, but it certainly isn't the easiest. | 02:02 |
| +crythias | Personally, I'm waiting for the screams of the 5.x'rs who can't upgrade. | 02:02 |
| +perlDreamer | do you mean who can't figure it out, or who are unable? | 02:03 |
| +crythias | it'll be a slow and arduous journey. | 02:03 |
| +crythias | to answer your question: both. | 02:04 |
| +crythias | most won't be able to upgrade for one reason or another. Starting with running MySQL 3.x | 02:04 |
| +crythias | or even IIS/postgresql | 02:04 |
| +perlDreamer | they made those choices, and PB has been very public about letting people know what wG does now. | 02:05 |
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| +perlDreamer | at least an upgrade path exists, right? | 02:09 |
| +crythias | well... kinda | 02:09 |
| +crythias | not an obvious path. | 02:09 |
| +perlDreamer | I guess I don't get the "obvious" part. | 02:10 |
| +perlDreamer | everything is documented in gotchas. | 02:10 |
| +perlDreamer | some people using IIS or postgresql will either need to switch to Apache/mySQL or stay where they are | 02:10 |
| +crythias | we're talking about at least three major steps | 02:10 |
| +perlDreamer | yes, but they're well defined | 02:10 |
| +crythias | 6.2 is ok, but then it's 6.5, 6.8, then 7 | 02:10 |
| +perlDreamer | I run a pretty vanilla wG, and I thought that aside from running the upgrades that we'd need to hack 4-5 templates | 02:11 |
| +perlDreamer | that's not too bad. | 02:11 |
| ckotil | hey perlDreamer those 2 Admin entrys under branch you saw....One is on the same level as branch and the other is in leaf | 02:28 |
| ckotil | i think its working fine. | 02:29 |
| +perlDreamer | ah, okay | 02:29 |
| +perlDreamer | although it shouldn't show users from member groups | 02:29 |
| ckotil | Admin is a group | 02:31 |
| +perlDreamer | and a user | 02:31 |
| ckotil | every new group you make Admin is there by deault | 02:31 |
| +perlDreamer | yup | 02:32 |
| +perlDreamer | but he shouldn't be there twice | 02:32 |
| ckotil | do you mind filing the bug then? | 02:32 |
| +perlDreamer | no, I'll do it | 02:33 |
| ckotil | cool. | 02:33 |
| ckotil | OK there is a bug | 02:35 |
| ckotil | http://demo.plainblack.com/demo1151527769_30/home login as two/two | 02:36 |
| +perlDreamer | need a few minutes | 02:36 |
| ckotil | no articles are shown. and two should show up. | 02:36 |
| ckotil | no prob | 02:36 |
| +perlDreamer | during the day I build chips for cellphone batteries | 02:36 |
| +perlDreamer | and use a little time for wG hackery | 02:36 |
| +perlDreamer | okay, logged in | 02:37 |
| ckotil | user two is in group leaf | 02:39 |
| ckotil | the leaf article requires group leaf | 02:39 |
| ckotil | yet nothing shows. | 02:39 |
| ckotil | cool | 02:40 |
| ckotil | now the fact that there is a group Leaf and leaf | 02:41 |
| ckotil | might be throwing it off. | 02:41 |
| +perlDreamer | I hope not | 02:41 |
| ckotil | but there is also Tree and tree | 02:41 |
| +perlDreamer | the names are for display. The ID's behind them are unique | 02:41 |
| ckotil | so i doubt thats it | 02:41 |
| ckotil | right, i figured that | 02:41 |
| ckotil | long ID ;] | 02:41 |
| ckotil | this scares me. | 02:53 |
| ckotil | well at least user one works. user two doesnt :/ hope i dont run into this problem on my site. | 02:58 |
| ckotil | only real problem i have been having is that www_edituser bug. I need to add that function to my pluggable authentication module | 02:59 |
| ckotil | and user three also works as it should. | 03:01 |
| +perlDreamer | headin' home. I might have some time tonight to look at this again. | 03:03 |
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| ckotil | cool man. | 03:03 |
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| Radix-wrk | Anyone here use WRE? | 05:07 |
| ckotil | I didnt know about it when i first learned of wG. So i went the conventional method | 06:22 |
| Radix-wrk | yeah, me neither, using debian myself, but encountered a wierd bug with navigation that only exhibits itself on this setup (some perl library is doing something wierd) - so wondering if the WRE is a better way to go. | 06:23 |
| Radix-wrk | Thing is.. it's never worked for me (on debian) | 06:24 |
| Radix-wrk | so wondering who is using the WRE and what platform they're using | 06:24 |
| ckotil | im not sure | 06:24 |
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| +perlDreamer | ckotil: I'm trying to dupe your test here at home on my laptop | 06:53 |
| +perlDreamer | I'll let you know how it goes | 06:53 |
| Radix-wrk | hey perldreamer - do you use the wre? if so, what platform have you used it on? | 07:04 |
| +perlDreamer | sorry, I wre-less | 07:04 |
| +perlDreamer | haven't used it yet | 07:04 |
| Radix-wrk | ahh k | 07:04 |
| Radix-wrk | any of you guys going to the WUC? | 07:07 |
| +perlDreamer | yup | 07:07 |
| Radix-wrk | where ya staying? :) | 07:07 |
| Radix-wrk | I'm just looking at hotels atm | 07:08 |
| +perlDreamer | for the first few days, at the conference site | 07:08 |
| +perlDreamer | we booked them a while ago | 07:08 |
| Radix-wrk | fair enough | 07:08 |
| Radix-wrk | Well I'll be there - just haven't organised accomodation yet :) | 07:11 |
| +perlDreamer | good luck | 07:12 |
| +perlDreamer | booking hotels in Vegas seems hard | 07:12 |
| Radix-wrk | why? | 07:13 |
| +perlDreamer | we wanted to stay an extra night at the hotel, but they would only book us two nights | 07:13 |
| +perlDreamer | they said some big motorcycle convention is in town and that everyone was doing that | 07:14 |
| Radix-wrk | this the friday, saturday thing? | 07:14 |
| +perlDreamer | yeah | 07:14 |
| Radix-wrk | I'll be staying until sunday anyway, so that suits me fine | 07:14 |
| Radix-wrk | was hoping to see some of the sights while I'm there, so will use saturday/sunday for that | 07:15 |
| Radix-wrk | will be the first time to the US for me | 07:15 |
| +perlDreamer | where are you coming from? | 07:15 |
| Radix-wrk | perth, western australia | 07:16 |
| +perlDreamer | wow | 07:16 |
| Radix-wrk | long way away :) | 07:16 |
| +perlDreamer | I'm just flying down from Oregon to Nevada | 07:16 |
| Radix-wrk | will be a ~25 hour flight for me | 07:17 |
| Radix-wrk | should be fun anyway :) | 07:18 |
| +perlDreamer | good hacking time | 07:18 |
| +perlDreamer | oy | 07:51 |
| +perlDreamer | just found a major bug in wG | 07:51 |
| Radix-wrk | oh? | 08:08 |
| +perlDreamer | it looks like a bug in groups; I just added it to the bug list | 08:09 |
| +perlDreamer | actually, ckotil found it, I just documented it. | 08:09 |
| Radix-wrk | this to do with sql lookups not working? | 08:09 |
| +perlDreamer | I don't think so. | 08:09 |
| Radix-wrk | or rather.. not working the first time, but working afterwards? | 08:09 |
| +perlDreamer | nope, definitely not that | 08:10 |
| +perlDreamer | check out the bug for all the gory details | 08:10 |
| +perlDreamer | http://www.plainblack.com/bugs/tracker/user/group-problem#FK1VSFpx8alFpm7FnnGYog | 08:10 |
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| newtrino | i knew something wierd was going on with groups. | 08:26 |
| newtrino | time for bed. I work in the morning. | 08:26 |
| +perlDreamer | the weird part is that the main Group test still passes | 08:26 |
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| +perlDreamer | yo! | 21:18 |
| @snapcount | kind of lonely in here | 21:18 |
| @snapcount | howdy ho neighbor | 21:18 |
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| ckotil | perlDreamer: i jsut grabbed the nightly build, and group inheritance works flawlessly | 21:22 |
| ckotil | thanks for the help | 21:22 |
| @snapcount | Colin, you know anything about uControllers and LCD | 21:22 |
| +perlDreamer | ckotil: you're welcome | 21:22 |
| +perlDreamer | you still need to go back and fix any group that you've already created to give it a non-zero expireTime | 21:23 |
| +perlDreamer | snapcount: I know a little about uCs, not much about LCD | 21:23 |
| ckotil | k | 21:23 |
| +perlDreamer | are you branching out again? | 21:23 |
| @snapcount | I have a uController that's using an ADC to measure a voltage | 21:23 |
| +perlDreamer | yes | 21:23 |
| @snapcount | I normalize/scale the value to volts in a word sized variable | 21:24 |
| +perlDreamer | w | 21:24 |
| @snapcount | the LCD is expecting half a char at a time in ASCII | 21:24 |
| @snapcount | sorry | 21:24 |
| @snapcount | it's a byte, not a word | 21:24 |
| @snapcount | so the upper four bits | 21:25 |
| @snapcount | latch | 21:25 |
| @snapcount | lower 4 | 21:25 |
| @snapcount | latch | 21:25 |
| @snapcount | then it displays it | 21:25 |
| @snapcount | so, to convert the number to ASCII | 21:25 |
| @snapcount | I'm adding 48 to my measurement | 21:25 |
| @snapcount | but I got all kinds of funky chars | 21:26 |
| +perlDreamer | how many digits of display in the LCD? | 21:26 |
| @snapcount | it's a two row, 18 char I think | 21:26 |
| @snapcount | my measurement is only 4 digits | 21:26 |
| @snapcount | If I send it a fixed value | 21:27 |
| @snapcount | it displays | 21:27 |
| @snapcount | so, 53 for example displays a 3 | 21:27 |
| +perlDreamer | what is the full scale of the ADC? | 21:27 |
| @snapcount | It has to have something to do with the math | 21:27 |
| +perlDreamer | yeah | 21:27 |
| @snapcount | 0 - 255 | 21:28 |
| +perlDreamer | and you'd like to display binary 0 to 255 or volts? | 21:28 |
| @snapcount | volts | 21:28 |
| +perlDreamer | what is the full scale input voltage of the ADC? | 21:28 |
| @snapcount | so 0 is 0 volts | 21:28 |
| @snapcount | and 255 is 5vdc | 21:28 |
| @snapcount | so like 18.9mV / step | 21:28 |
| @snapcount | if I remember right | 21:28 |
| +perlDreamer | sounds right | 21:29 |
| @snapcount | I think the problem is that my converted number in mV is not stored in the way I think it is | 21:29 |
| +perlDreamer | so the problem is how to convert an 8-bit byte into 4 digit decimal with decimal point | 21:29 |
| @snapcount | so when I add 48 to it, I'm getting a funky number | 21:29 |
| @snapcount | an 8 bit byte into a single ascii digit | 21:30 |
| @snapcount | (just loop for the other numbers) | 21:30 |
| @snapcount | I can't even get one digit to work =) | 21:30 |
| @snapcount | so 3 -> 53 | 21:30 |
| @snapcount | 4 -> 54 | 21:30 |
| @snapcount | etc | 21:30 |
| +perlDreamer | are you sure you have the nibbles in the correct order (big endian vs little endian) | 21:31 |
| @snapcount | actually | 21:31 |
| @snapcount | maybe my measurement isn't stored in the same order as a constant | 21:32 |
| @snapcount | I define a byte called char | 21:32 |
| @snapcount | set it = 3 | 21:32 |
| @snapcount | then set char = char + 48 | 21:32 |
| @snapcount | send that to lcd | 21:32 |
| @snapcount | one nib at a time | 21:32 |
| @snapcount | and I get a 3 | 21:32 |
| @snapcount | on the display | 21:32 |
| @snapcount | if I use the measured value to set char | 21:33 |
| @snapcount | I get funkyness | 21:33 |
| +perlDreamer | do you have any other interface into the part, like a serial port/ SMB/ oscilloscope/logic analyser? | 21:33 |
| +perlDreamer | so that you could dump out the contents of the measurement? | 21:33 |
| @snapcount | I wish =) | 21:34 |
| @snapcount | my garage electronics lab is limited lol | 21:34 |
| +perlDreamer | build a quick one with LED's, or use two chars in the LCD to show you what you're getting | 21:34 |
| +perlDreamer | gotta go, it's running time in Oregon. | 21:34 |
| +perlDreamer | I'll check back later. | 21:34 |
| @snapcount | ok man | 21:34 |
| @snapcount | thanks | 21:34 |
| +perlDreamer | no problem. | 21:34 |
| +perlDreamer | I'm an all purpose perlhacker :) | 21:35 |
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| cheecheeo | does anyone have experiencing setting up multiple webgui instances on seperate machines to do failover? | 22:06 |
| ckotil | That's something I would like to do with my site. | 22:18 |
| ckotil | But i havent put any thouht or research into it. | 22:19 |
| cheecheeo | okay, i guess one possibility would be to round robin domain request scheme (like distfiles.gentoo.org) and have identical webgui instances all pulling from the same database on each domain. That's my first guess at least. | 22:22 |
| ckotil | but if the same db goes down. *GASP* | 22:22 |
| cheecheeo | failover DB (though only one time failover) | 22:24 |
| cheecheeo | that's a little bit easier, may cause some network saturation though | 22:24 |
| ckotil | how do you keep them in sync? | 22:24 |
| cheecheeo | master/slave MySQL databases (I think) | 22:25 |
| ckotil | the 'failover db' , seems very possible | 22:25 |
| ckotil | Id keep asking around to see if its been done b4 | 22:25 |
| ckotil | the guys in here will respond when they come around. | 22:25 |
| cheecheeo | yeah, i've been reading up on it, the issue isn't reading, but updates and writes, you end up having to set up one of the databases as a master and the other as a slave, and since we're not going to be using networked storage, it's hard to guarantee that both databases are always in sync. | 22:28 |
| +perlDreamer | there was a lot of talk at last year's WUC about doing that. | 22:37 |
| +perlDreamer | you should see if you can find a conference CD | 22:37 |
| cheecheeo | perlDreamer: would you want to take on the task as a webgui consultant? | 22:41 |
| +perlDreamer | I do perl and WebGUI. Sysadmin stuff isn't my bag. | 22:41 |
| +perlDreamer | plus I'm currently engaged by someone else | 22:41 |
| +perlDreamer | if I were to recommend someone, it would be Len Kranendonk | 22:42 |
| cheecheeo | okay, we need 6 failover webgui instances all pulling from the same database (seperate system and architecture) in case anyone interested is listening. | 22:44 |
| ckotil | i/quit | 23:30 |
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| +perlDreamer | snapcount: How's the hardware hacking? | 23:43 |
| @snapcount | Been bug fixing and taking support calls | 23:46 |
| @snapcount | this is a night time project | 23:46 |
| @snapcount | =) | 23:46 |
| +perlDreamer | I see | 23:46 |
| +perlDreamer | I've been looking at the session id bug, have you had a chance to look at it? | 23:47 |
| +perlDreamer | he says he found a session with %2F in it | 23:52 |
| +perlDreamer | except %2F isn't supposed to be allowed as a session id | 23:52 |
| +perlDreamer | MD5.pm isn't supposed to output it, like ever. | 23:52 |
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