WebGUI irc logs from: 2006-03.log

--- Log opened Wed Mar 01 00:00:17 2006
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crythias*yawn*15:49
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crythiaswould you try something for me?19:26
MrHairgreasesure19:26
crythiasdo you have a browser that you can use the links toolbar for?19:26
MrHairgreaseI don't even know what the links took bar is19:27
MrHairgreaseI only have ff 1.0.2 available right now19:27
crythiasok. np. Actually, I gotta go to lunch.19:27
MrHairgreasebon apetit19:27
crythiascheck this out: http://www.gwy2.org/sbs/sbs.html?url=http://www.plainblack.com/discuss19:27
@WRE<crythias> http://tinyurl.com/jp65p19:27
MrHairgreasewhat is it good for?19:29
crythiastech support19:29
MrHairgreaseI can see its usefulness for that indeed19:29
crythiasI have a button that automatically adds google search to any page.19:29
MrHairgreasehow does it do that19:30
MrHairgreasejavascript?19:30
crythiasso, you just click the button for the page you're on, and you get full google search19:30
crythiasyeah19:30
crythiasand frames19:30
MrHairgreasecool19:30
MrHairgreasesubmit it19:30
crythiasI based it upon something like www.gahooyoogle.com19:30
crythiasI've always wanted an easy way to split a current page/screen19:31
crythiasand browser wasn't cutting it for me.19:31
MrHairgreaseyeah19:31
MrHairgreasefirst useful use of frames i'v ever seen19:31
crythiasyou're using firefox, right?19:31
MrHairgreaseyeah19:32
crythiasyou have the "Recent Headlines" bar, right?19:32
MrHairgreasecould be19:32
crythiasunless you've customized it.19:32
MrHairgreasenever looked into the 'advanced' features19:32
MrHairgreaseIf I can browse it ok19:32
crythias"links" bar is just a list of one-click things, where the rss feeds go.19:32
MrHairgreaseoh and I use the webdevelopers toolbar19:33
MrHairgreaseOh ok19:33
MrHairgreaseI never use rss feeds19:33
crythias!seen pbmdawg21:32
@WREpbmdawg (n=SysAdmin@CPE-65-31-211-163.kc.res.rr.com) was last seen parting #WebGUI 16 hours, 38 minutes ago stating "{}".21:32
crythiashttp://www.gwy2.org/sbs/sbsdrag.html21:38
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@snapcountso I installed base and snort on my gateway machine last night23:27
@snapcountthe internet is a dangerous place23:27
@snapcountespecially if you have MS-SQL23:27
@snapcountI've had like 90 attempts by some MS-SQL worm23:28
crythiaspeople  behind webgui? where?23:47
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@snapcountYO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!100:44
@snapcountYO00:44
crythias'lo00:44
@snapcountis a toy with string00:44
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terjegreetings00:45
terjeI'm having some trouble getting webgui going.00:45
@snapcounthi there00:45
terjeI think perhaps there's some problems w/ the sourc.e00:45
@snapcountooh boy00:45
@snapcountwhat kind of problems00:45
crythiasnah. nothing wrong with webgui *stares at ceiling.* must be user error. :-P00:45
crythiasj/k00:46
crythiasO:-)00:46
terjeheh00:46
terjeI got the sarcasam00:47
terjesarcasm, even.00:47
terjeok, here goes.00:47
terje[webgui@helo lib]$ perl -c WebGUI.pm00:47
terjeVariable "$parenthesis" is not imported at (re_eval 12) line 2.00:47
terjeGlobal symbol "$parenthesis" requires explicit package name at (re_eval 12) line 2.00:47
terjeCompilation failed in regexp at WebGUI/Macro.pm line 53.00:47
terjeCompilation failed in require at WebGUI.pm line 22.00:47
terjeBEGIN failed--compilation aborted at WebGUI.pm line 22.00:47
crythiasbecause you're using 5.5.800:47
crythiaschange our to my00:47
terjeis that all?00:47
crythiascould be.00:47
@snapcountwow00:47
@snapcountnever met someone actually using 500:47
@snapcountthat's kind of cool00:48
crythiasI've only answered this question 3 times in the past week00:48
terjeThis is perl, v5.8.6 built for i386-linux-thread-multi00:48
@snapcountoh00:48
@snapcountlol00:48
@snapcountguess I should pay more attention00:48
crythiasno. you wouldn't have known.00:48
crythias:)00:48
terjeso, I'm still not quite clear..00:49
crythiasMacro.pm00:49
terjechange 'our' to 'my' where exactly?00:49
terjeah00:49
* terje smacks forehead00:49
crythiashee00:49
crythiasnot only do I know. I can read minds :)00:49
@snapcountooh boy00:49
@snapcountself mutilation00:50
crythiasand you're killing yourself starting on 5.5.800:50
* snapcount gets some popcorn00:50
crythiasjust saying.00:50
crythiasmight want to take a look at my FAQ while you're at it :) http://www.gwy2.org/cgi-bin/fom00:50
@snapcountya know, the proper thing to do in a situation like this... is to ask our president what to do...00:50
@snapcount!dubya00:51
@WRE"I will have a foreign-handed foreign policy."00:51
@snapcountsee, there's the answer00:51
@snapcountyou need a foreign handed foreign policy00:51
crythiashttp://www.gwy2.org/pipermail/webgui/2006-March/000013.html00:51
@WRE<crythias> http://tinyurl.com/o5vmu00:51
@snapcount!bofh00:52
@WREBOFH Quick-excuse: Sysadmin accidentally destroyed pager with a large hammer.00:52
@snapcountboy, I'm in a mood today00:53
crythiasI guess :)00:53
* snapcount slaps snapcount around a bit with a large trout00:53
crythiasterje :) I hope you aren't offended by my responses :)00:53
@snapcountor mine00:53
terjeI'm not00:53
@snapcountyou can pipe me to /dev/null00:53
terjebut I'm not sure they're correct either.00:53
terje#our $parenthesis = qr /\(                      # Start with '(',00:54
terjemy $parenthesis = qr /\(                      # Start with '(',00:54
terjeis that what your saying needs to be changed?00:54
crythiasand restart apache00:54
terjeah00:54
terjebut that's not right either.00:55
crythias*gasp*00:55
crythiasbecause now what?00:55
terjeheh00:55
crythiasdifferent error?00:55
crythiaslike... Gateway Interface not perl?00:55
* snapcount observes Mr Crythias... (Miss Cleo's cousin)00:56
terjewell00:56
terjehow is restarting apache going ot affect a perl script I'm running from the command line I wonder?00:56
terjeeffect, even :)00:57
crythiasbeats me. what effect is it having?00:57
crythiasaffect is verb, effect is noun. :)00:57
terjeheh00:57
terjethanks for the correction.00:58
crythiasyou were correct in your first instance.00:58
terjeI'm simply doing a perl -c on the Macro.pm module00:58
crythiasah.00:58
crythiasgood call, that.00:58
@snapcountterje 2, crythias 100:58
crythiasyou're doing it with -I /path/to/WebGUI/lib00:58
terjechanging our $parenthesis to my $parenthesis doesn't fix the problem00:58
terjenegative, I'm not even there yet.00:59
crythiashrm.00:59
terjehere's what I'm seeing after the change:00:59
terje[webgui@helo lib]$ perl -c WebGUI/Macro.pm00:59
terjeGlobal symbol "$parenthesis" requires explicit package name at (re_eval 6) line 2.00:59
terjeCompilation failed in regexp at WebGUI/Macro.pm line 54.00:59
terjeya dig?01:00
crythiashttp://www.plainblack.com/downloads/builds/5.5.8/WebGUI/lib/WebGUI/Macro.pm01:00
@WRE<crythias> http://tinyurl.com/rbbwv01:00
crythiasthat's your original01:01
crythiashttp://www.plainblack.com/downloads/builds/6.2.11-gamma/WebGUI/lib/WebGUI/Macro.pm01:01
crythiasthat's probably close enough to what it should be01:01
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@snapcountMartin!01:01
@snapcountI checked out SQLForm01:02
@snapcountnice job01:02
MrHairgreasethanks01:02
@snapcountJT IMs me, "look at this"01:02
terjehurah[webgui@helo lib]$ perl -c WebGUI.pm01:02
terjeWebGUI.pm syntax OK01:02
terjethanks crythias!01:02
@snapcountso I look, and it's your form01:02
crythiasmy form?01:03
@snapcountthen he's like "what do you think"01:03
@snapcountno01:03
@snapcountSQLForm demo01:03
@snapcountso I play01:03
@snapcountand I'm like01:03
@snapcountthis fucking rules01:03
@snapcountso he asks, "should we put it in core"01:03
@snapcountand I say, "does the code suck, can we maintain it"01:03
@snapcountand he's like01:03
@snapcountcode looks good01:03
@snapcountthe rest is history01:04
crythiasI can't guarantee 6.2.11 macro.pm is drop-in for 5.5.8 Macro.pm, terje01:04
* MrHairgrease remebers sombody stomping his feet on the floor: I want it now! I want it now!01:04
crythiasYou should diff them just to be sure.01:04
@snapcounthehe01:04
MrHairgreasewtf!?!01:04
MrHairgreaseyou doubted my code?01:04
@snapcountI doubt everyones code01:04
MrHairgreaseyou'd better01:04
@snapcountuntil I see it01:04
MrHairgreaseanyway01:05
MrHairgreasea more ego related quetion01:05
MrHairgreasequestion*01:05
MrHairgreasewhere's this interview with me?01:05
MrHairgreaseI can't find it on wg,org01:05
@snapcountall over half the known world01:05
crythiasYeah, roy, where's the people behind webgui?01:05
@snapcountcan you not see it01:05
crythiasum ... not01:05
@snapcountuh oh01:05
MrHairgreasenot that I'm that curious01:05
@snapcountprolly set to admins01:06
@snapcountshiza01:06
MrHairgreaseI know the answers already anyway =)01:06
terjeso, I've got what I hope is one last question ..01:08
terjedoes this command:01:08
terje   mysql -e "grant all privileges on WebGUI.* to webgui@localhost identified by 'password'"01:08
terjeactually create the account for user webgui in mysql?01:08
terjeor does it simply grant access to webgui and I have to create that user account somehow?01:09
MrHairgreaseit also creates the account01:10
MrHairgreasewell sorta01:10
MrHairgreasewhat you did should work anyway01:10
terjehmm01:12
terjeI can see the webgui user account in mysql.user but still can't login using the stuff I set.01:12
terjewerid.01:13
MrHairgreasecan you do this:01:13
MrHairgreasemysql -uwebgui -p WebGUI01:13
MrHairgreaseIf you can log in with that01:13
MrHairgreasethe db is configured properly01:13
MrHairgreasealso is the tablename correct?01:15
MrHairgreasemysql is case sensitive01:15
MrHairgreaseso webgui != WebGUI01:15
terjeright, I've figured that out01:15
MrHairgreaseok01:15
terjechecking..01:15
terjeERROR 1044 (42000): Access denied for user 'webgui'@'localhost' to database 'WebGUI'01:16
@snapcountthere you are01:16
MrHairgreasehmm01:16
@snapcountthanks for pointing out my boo-boo01:16
MrHairgreasethat sucks01:16
terjeI'll have to update my pass and see if that helps.01:16
MrHairgreasedid you enter your password correctly in the grant clause01:16
MrHairgreaseroy01:16
terjewell, I thought I did :)01:16
MrHairgreaseyou don't suck01:16
terjedo you know how to update that password?01:17
MrHairgreasejust do the grant again01:17
terjeoh ok01:17
MrHairgreasethat should work01:17
MrHairgreasei think'01:17
crythiasif you're in 5.5.8 you'll need to make certain your dbi is uptodate01:17
* snapcount enjoys some little caesars pizza01:18
@snapcountmmm cheese Martin01:18
crythiasbecause mysql uses a different password mechanism01:18
* MrHairgrease pukes01:18
MrHairgreaseyeah sure01:18
MrHairgreasebut using the mysql client should work01:18
crythiasmight need to store under old password01:18
MrHairgreaseso if he cannot log in using that01:18
MrHairgreaseit's something else01:18
terjeok MrHairgrease, I thin I'm good.01:19
terjethanks!01:19
MrHairgreasenp01:19
MrHairgreaseroy01:19
MrHairgreaseI'm watching myself on the internet01:19
MrHairgreasethank man01:19
@snapcounthuh01:20
terjebtw, I like the term 'Linuxish'01:20
MrHairgreaseyeah01:20
MrHairgreaseprobably to piss of osx users =)01:20
MrHairgreaseroy: the picture01:21
@snapcountyes01:21
@snapcountyou're looking at it01:21
@snapcount?01:21
MrHairgreaseof course01:21
MrHairgreasecalc narcism01:21
@WRENo calc set for "narcism"01:21
MrHairgreasecrap01:21
MrHairgreaseno luck this time =)01:21
@snapcountcalc urine01:21
@WREurine = <pb_M-Train> Did you know that all humans can urinate through their navels?01:21
MrHairgreasehow can you do that while you're eating01:21
@snapcountI'm done eating now01:22
MrHairgreasematt's wife has an lasting impact on all of us01:22
MrHairgreasei bet you are01:22
@snapcountcalc marriage01:22
@WREmarriage = <pbmdawg> my sister just got engaged <crythias> but you're already married...01:22
@snapcountthat's the best one ever01:22
MrHairgreaselol01:22
MrHairgreasematt indeed does have all the good ones01:23
@snapcountMartin, isn't it like 3am where you are01:27
MrHairgreaseno01:27
terjeoh man01:27
MrHairgreaseit's about 501:27
MrHairgreasej/k01:27
@snapcountin the morning!?01:27
MrHairgreaseit's 00:30ish01:27
terjethere are so many errors now when I hit it from a web browser01:27
terjeI can't believe this thing ever works.01:28
@snapcountwhat "thing"01:28
terjeThere's nothing about having writable permissions on different directories in the install file.01:28
@snapcountthe only dir that needs +w is uploads01:29
MrHairgreasewg-root/www/uploads01:29
terje        WebGUI::Style::process('There is a syntax error in this template. Please correct.') called at /home/webgui/html/WebGUI/lib/WebGUI.pm line 4301:30
@snapcountwhat?01:30
MrHairgreasewhat version are you on?01:30
terjeand there's more..01:30
terje        WebGUI::_generatePage('There is a syntax error in this template. Please correct.') called at /home/webgui/html/WebGUI/lib/WebGUI.pm line 16701:30
terje        WebGUI::page('/home/webgui/html/WebGUI', 'WebGUI.conf') called at /home/webgui/html/WebGUI/www/index.pl line 2801:30
terjeWhere's the version number?01:30
MrHairgreasedid you run wg-root/sbin/testEnvironment.pl01:30
MrHairgrease?01:30
terjeyes, it run's fine.01:31
terjeLatest version ........................... You are using 6.1.1 and 6.8.7-gamma is available.01:31
@snapcountat the top of WebGUI.pm01:31
@snapcountwhoa01:31
terjeis that my problem?01:31
@snapcountholy hell man01:31
MrHairgreaseit's kinda ancient01:31
@snapcounthard to say01:31
@snapcountbut that's really old01:31
MrHairgreaseyou should try 6.7.x01:32
terjewith a name like -gamma I figured it was not ready for production.01:32
@snapcountif you go past 6.7 you'll need MP201:32
terjeMP2?01:32
terjeoh01:32
@snapcountmod-perl201:32
terjemod_perl01:32
MrHairgreasegamma = stable01:32
terjeyea, ok, so what version do you recommend then?01:32
MrHairgreaseonly the api can change01:32
terjei gotcha01:32
@snapcountthe latest 6.701:32
MrHairgreasewhat he says01:32
terjecool, thanks for your patience guys.01:32
@snapcountunless you want to reconfigure  your environment01:33
terjenah, lemme give that a shot.01:33
MrHairgreaseand compile stuff by hand01:33
terjetomorrow!01:33
terjeI'm out for now.01:33
terjethanks again.01:33
@snapcountsure thing01:33
@snapcountoy!01:33
@snapcountoy! oy!01:33
@snapcount!seen perlDreamer01:34
@snapcount!lastSeen perlDreamer01:34
@snapcountdamn it01:34
@snapcountcan't remember cmds for my own bot01:34
@snapcount!lastSpoke perlDreamer01:34
* snapcount scratches his head with a stary gaze01:35
terjehas the database schema changed since 6.1.1 ?01:35
terjeshould I just drop it and re-create it?01:35
@snapcountoh yeah01:35
MrHairgreasedrop and re-recte01:36
terjewerd.. tomorrow then.01:36
terjelater.01:36
MrHairgrease!seen perldreamer01:37
MrHairgreaselaters01:37
@snapcountmy seen script no workie01:38
@snapcountor PEBCAK01:38
MrHairgreasenot me01:38
@snapcount!lastSpoke crythias01:38
@WREcrythias last uttered a word on #webgui 20 minutes ago.01:38
@snapcount!last perlDreamer01:38
MrHairgreaseI saw crythias do a seen command on matt01:38
@snapcount!lastSeen perlDreamer01:39
MrHairgreaseit should be !seen01:39
@snapcount!seen fucker01:39
@WREsnapcount, I don't remember seeing fucker.01:39
@snapcounthey01:39
@snapcount!seen perlDreamer01:39
MrHairgrease!seen a threeheaded monkey01:39
@WREMrHairgrease, I don't remember seeing a.01:39
MrHairgreasethat's a shame01:39
@snapcountso it works for people that don't exist01:39
@snapcountnice01:39
MrHairgrease!seen pbmdawg01:39
@WREpbmdawg (n=SysAdmin@CPE-65-31-211-163.kc.res.rr.com) was last seen parting #WebGUI 20 hours, 46 minutes ago stating "{}".01:39
@snapcountoh I know why01:40
MrHairgrease!seen mrhairgrease01:40
@WREMrHairgrease, go look in a mirror.01:40
MrHairgreaseheh01:40
@snapcounthaha01:40
@snapcounttis b/c the bot knows you guys01:40
* MrHairgrease click on that beautiful picture again01:40
@snapcountit won't track ppl he don't knoweth01:40
MrHairgreasea waste it iseth01:40
@snapcountI'll have to introduce them01:41
MrHairgreaseyou do that01:41
crythias!seen a_three-toed_sloth01:52
MrHairgreaselater guys01:52
crythiasI'm ignored by wre01:52
crythiashah01:52
MrHairgreasequit01:53
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@snapcountdo you know anything about eggdrop crythias01:55
crythiasmakes great soup01:55
@snapcountaside from that?01:55
crythiassorry. no. :( At last you have come upon the limits of my knowledge :)01:56
@snapcountoh01:56
@snapcountyou should read up on it01:58
@snapcountI'll give you access to the party line01:59
@snapcountgive you more privs01:59
@snapcountfun stuff01:59
crythiasheh $7 alcy free beers02:05
@snapcountI found that funny as well02:10
crythiasSideBy Google is my new fried.02:19
crythiasfriend.02:19
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nbcccor1hey, do any of you have any experience running Jabber or any other IM server?16:50
@snapcountI logged into a jabber server yesterday16:54
@snapcountdoes that count?16:54
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nbcccor2not really.17:27
@snapcountI figured17:27
nbcccor2is my name showing as nbcccor2?17:27
@snapcountyep17:27
@snapcount<-- look here17:27
@snapcount=)17:27
nbcccor2it seems that gaim has some form of "undocumented learning opportunity".17:28
nbcccor2because it increments that number when I re-open the chat window.17:28
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nbcccor2my name should be nbcccorp17:28
@snapcountcan you issue commands?17:29
@snapcountie /stuff17:29
nbcccor2yeah but nobody listens.17:29
@snapcounttry /nick dr_evil17:29
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dr_evi1wow17:30
dr_evi1it's changing the last char to a number17:30
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@snapcountthat's weird17:31
nbcccor1I agree17:31
@snapcountI have 0 bytes of knowledge re: gaim17:31
@snapcountnot even a bit17:31
* snapcount slaps knee17:31
nbcccor1hee17:32
@snapcountgrep snapcount > /dev/null 2>/dev/null17:32
nbcccor1and to think, other people actually PAY for comedy17:32
@snapcountdon't forget the 217:33
@snapcountmost of my output goes to STDERR17:33
nbcccor1oh... so your married.17:33
@snapcountno17:33
@snapcountbut that's funny17:33
@snapcountlol17:33
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terjehi guys, I'm back.19:05
terjehaving much success with the later version.19:05
terjeI think I'm having trouble getting my dsn right in the config file.19:06
terjedoes this look right: dsn = DBI:mysql:host=localhost19:06
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terjeeh, that's not what I meant.19:08
terjeok, so I have the DSN right I think..19:11
terjebut I'm getting this error:19:11
terjeCan't connect to data source , no database driver specified and DBI_DSN env var not set at /home/webgui/html/WebGUI/lib/WebGUI/Session.pm line 31319:12
terjefrom my browser..19:12
terjeany ideas?19:12
crythiasyeah. check preload.perl19:12
terjecool, thanks.19:12
crythiasmake sure it knows data dir of webgui19:12
crythiasMatt!19:22
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terjeok19:34
terjethat was an issue..19:34
terjeand I've fixed it.. and restart apache.. same error msg.19:35
terjewhen apache starts it tells me it's loading WebGUI and the correct config file, etc.19:35
terjenot sure where to check next.19:35
crythiaslike I'm telling someone else, you're going to absolutely hate yourself when 7 comes out.19:36
terjelol19:37
crythiasbecause all this problem with 5.5.8... you're going to have to go through about 5 upgrades to get to 7.19:37
terjeI consider myself a pretty savy linux admin19:37
terjedude, I'll just reinstall from scratch.19:37
crythiashee19:37
crythiasThat's funny.19:37
terjethat's just how I roll.19:38
terje=)19:38
terjeso any more suggestions as to the cause and solution to, my problem?19:38
terjebrb, need coffee.19:38
crythiasif you can use mysql -u user -p password database and connect with the values in your webgui.conf...19:39
crythiasthat helps.19:40
crythiasbut I'm reasonably certain that your problem is related to DBI-mysql not matching mysql 4.1+19:40
terjeI can connect using mysql -u ... database19:44
terjelet's check the DBI-mysql version, thanks.19:44
terjeis there a really simply test.pl I can do to see if that's the issue?19:50
terjehmm..20:11
terjewell I have a test script that uses DBI and I can connect to the WebGUI DB just fine.20:12
* terje scratches head20:12
terjedo I need to modify this in www/index.pl20:19
terje        $configFile = "WebGUI.conf";20:19
terjeto match the config file I created?20:19
pbmdawgyes20:20
terjeok, I'm pretty close now.20:37
terje=)20:37
terjedang man20:45
terjeso close yet so far.20:45
terjeI know I'm being needy20:46
terjehere's what I'm getting now..20:46
terjeif I perl www/index.pl - works great20:46
terjeif I20:46
terje[webgui@helo etc]$ GET http://webgui/WebGUI/www/index.pl20:46
terje500 Server closed connection without sending any data back20:46
terjeand the error in my log file is20:46
terjefailed to resolve handler WebGUI20:46
terjeI've checked my virtual host container and it seems to match the install document's instructions.20:47
pbmdawgwhich install document are you using20:54
terjehttp://www.plainblack.com/installing_webgui20:54
@WRE<terje> http://tinyurl.com/4baaa20:54
terjeI think it's got something to do w/ PerlInitHandler WebGUI20:56
pbmdawgyeah.20:57
pbmdawgin your preload.perl20:57
pbmdawgdoes it use the path that WebGUI.pm is in?20:58
terjeI believe so20:59
terjeit's set to20:59
terje        $webguiRoot = "/home/webgui/html/WebGUI";20:59
pbmdawgbut does it "use" that path20:59
pbmdawgerr20:59
terjeshoudl that be /home/webgui/html/WebGUI/lib ?20:59
pbmdawgpossibly20:59
pbmdawgI don't know where you put your lib files21:00
terjeok21:00
pbmdawgwait21:00
pbmdawgno21:00
pbmdawgwhat are the files/dirs under /home/webgui/html/21:00
terjejust WebGUI21:00
pbmdawgWhat's under that dir21:01
terjedocs  etc  lib  sbin  test.pl  www21:01
pbmdawgok21:01
pbmdawgin your apache.conf21:01
pbmdawg PerlRequire /data/WebGUI/sbin/preload.perl21:01
pbmdawgdo you have that above your vhost?21:01
terje[webgui@helo WebGUI]$ grep PerlRequire /etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf21:02
terjePerlRequire /home/webgui/html/WebGUI/sbin/preload.perl21:02
pbmdawgand it's above the vhost?21:02
pbmdawgabove the virtual host in the conf file, I mean21:07
pbmdawgand what is PerlSetVar WebguiRoot set to21:08
terjeactually it's not.21:12
terjethat is, it's not in the vhost container21:12
terjebut the instructions don't say to put one in there.21:12
pbmdawgI was asking it if was above the vhost, not in it21:12
terjeoh21:12
terjeyes, it's above the vhost21:12
terjeway above the vhost though21:13
terjenear the load module section21:13
terjeI'll move it down.21:13
pbmdawgwhat about the PerlSetVar21:13
terjePerlSetVar is set to the name of my config file in etc/21:14
pbmdawgthat's in the vhost, right?21:14
pbmdawgI mean the PerlSetVar WebguiRoot21:14
terjeyes21:15
pbmdawgwhat's WebguiRoot set to (above the vhost)21:15
terjePerlSetVar WebguiRoot /home/webgui/html/WebGUI21:16
pbmdawghrm21:16
pbmdawgApache can't find WebGUI.pm21:27
pbmdawgbut it should be able to find it if preload.perl is being loaded successfully21:28
pbmdawgthis is 6.8.7, right?21:28
@snapcountwow21:55
@snapcountlooks like you guys are having a blast21:55
@snapcountI love it when clients cancel login support requests21:57
@snapcountit's like an early birthday present21:57
crythiascan't use installing_webgui for 55822:37
crythiasread the docs in docs22:37
@snapcountmy god, I can't believe it22:43
pbmdawg?22:43
@snapcountI actually have time to write code now!22:43
@snapcountyipee22:43
* snapcount switches back to head22:43
@snapcountsomeone cue up the KnightRider theme song22:44
@snapcount"hello, michael"22:44
crythias... a man who does not exist.22:44
@snapcountI never did get the physics behind him driving the car onto the semi22:45
@snapcountbut I guess they are both going about the same speed22:45
@snapcountfor some reason it would seem to me that upon entry into the trailer the do vectors would combine and he would drive into the cab at 60mph22:47
@snapcounts/do/two22:47
crythiashttp://web.archive.org/web/20050401071703/http://www.plainblack.com/installing_webgui22:47
@WRE<crythias> http://tinyurl.com/rcbyt22:47
pbmdawgno22:47
crythiaswhat?22:47
@snapcountmaybe22:47
@snapcountyes22:48
@snapcountsometimes22:48
crythiasperhaps22:48
@snapcountpossibly22:48
@snapcountpbmdawg: what are you no'ing about22:48
pbmdawgas long as the firebird is rear wheel drive, he can drive up the semi ramp; he just has to put the car out of gear before the rear wheels touch the ramp22:48
* crythias gazes into the 8 ball: 8-ball: Um. Why bother asking me? I'm not sentient. 22:48
@snapcountyes, but if the tires hit the ramp22:49
@snapcountI am correct?22:49
pbmdawgno22:49
crythiasfront wheel drive shouldn't be a problem.22:49
crythiasnot if brakes function, anyway.22:50
@snapcount60 -> 0 in 52 ft22:50
@snapcountgood breaks22:50
@snapcountand that's a big trailer22:50
@snapcountand a perfect reaction time22:50
@snapcountI say he parks it in the cab22:50
crythiasWhile rear wheels are on the ground, car moves at car rate or drag rate.22:51
crythiasvectors are in the same direction, anyway.22:51
@snapcountok22:52
@snapcountso riddle me this22:52
@snapcountyou drop a baseball into a pitching machine22:52
@snapcountwhat's the difference22:52
crythiasacceleration22:52
@snapcountok22:52
@snapcountso put the pitching machine in a truck22:52
pbmdawghe's not going from 60 to 022:52
pbmdawghe's going from 60 to 5522:52
pbmdawgif the truck is at 5522:53
@snapcountgood call22:53
pbmdawgonly the wheels have to slow down their rotation.22:53
pbmdawgwhich is why he must push in the clutch22:53
crythiashttp://www.madsci.org/posts/archives/dec96/849218944.Ph.r.html22:53
pbmdawgor else break his transmission22:53
@WRE<crythias> http://tinyurl.com/ockqu22:53
@snapcountwe need to do an experiment22:53
@snapcountsounds like a job for the myth busters!22:53
pbmdawgthat post is totally wrong22:54
crythiasbecause?22:56
crythiashttp://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/browse_frm/thread/fa4309fe4d736015/a06b000140c520ee?tvc=1&q=knight+rider+car+semi&hl=en#a06b000140c520ee22:57
@snapcountsounds right to me22:57
@WRE<crythias> http://tinyurl.com/mdte222:57
crythiasthe car is going 5 mph faster than the semi relative to road22:58
pbmdawgthe wheels have to slow down from 60mph to 5mph22:58
pbmdawgbut that happens all the time, with good brakes.22:58
pbmdawgyou can easily lock your tires while travelling at 6022:59
pbmdawgif you don't have ABS22:59
pbmdawgso that's not an issue22:59
@snapcountbut you have 50 ft22:59
@snapcounttops22:59
pbmdawgwhat is an issue is if the car has *enough* inertia to get up the ramp22:59
@snapcountbut relative to the road matters not23:00
@snapcountonce the car is traveling 50 inside the semi23:00
@snapcountthen it's car relative to semi23:01
* snapcount phones Adam Savage23:01
@snapcount"we need a semi and knight rider... yes, we need them now"23:01
@snapcountthat would be a good episode23:02
pbmdawgactually the 2nd half of that post is correct23:03
crythiasKNIGHT INDUSTRIES TWO THOUSAND23:03
crythias ------------------------------23:03
crythias VEHICLE TYPE:  Front engine, rear wheel drive, two          23:03
crythias                passenger, two door coupe            23:03
crythiasfrom official faq23:03
* pbmdawg gets back to work23:04
* pbmdawg excuses himself to barf23:10
* snapcount fires up vmare and dreams of 7.023:14
pbmdawgI'm almost done with my vmware appliance: WebGUIdev23:15
@snapcountexcelllent23:15
@snapcountwhat is a vmware appliance?23:15
pbmdawg330MB compressed23:15
@snapcountgimmie a link23:15
pbmdawghttp://www.vmware.com/vmtn/appliances/challenge/23:15
@WRE<pbmdawg> http://tinyurl.com/qmd3g23:15
@snapcounthey you guys want to hear a joke23:15
@snapcountwhy are redneck murders so hard to solve?23:16
@snapcountbecause there are usually no teeth and all the dna is the same23:16
* snapcount slaps his knee and chuckles23:16
pbmdawgI'm also making a firewall appliance and an email filtering appliance23:17
crythiasKnight Rider, a shadowy flight into the dangerous world of a man  who does not exist.  Michael Knight, a young loner on a crusade to champion the cause  of the innocent, the helpless, the powerless in a world of  criminals who operate above the law.23:30
@snapcountdon't forget the cousin of knight rider23:31
@snapcountand possibly an even better show23:31
@snapcountsame time period23:31
@snapcountany guesses?23:31
pbmdawgvoltron?23:31
crythiasstreet hawk23:32
pbmdawgAirwolf23:32
@snapcountding ding ding23:32
@snapcountAirwolf was the shiznet23:32
crythiasawe23:32
crythiasStreet Hawk was cool23:32
@snapcountvoltron was also a good guess23:32
crythiasA-Team23:32
@snapcountyes23:32
crythiasBlue Thunder23:33
@snapcountyou need to leave now23:33
pbmdawgMatlock23:33
crythiasPowers of Matthew Star23:33
crythiasrr23:33
pbmdawgMiami Vice23:33
crythiasStarman23:33
@snapcountooh ooh23:33
pbmdawgMagnum PI23:33
@snapcountspeaking of rr23:33
@snapcountwe're getting bumped up tonight23:33
crythiasThe Greatest American Hero23:33
@snapcountmore speed23:33
pbmdawg?23:34
@snapcountif I pay them $$ I can get 10Mbps23:34
pbmdawgheh23:34
@snapcounteveryone is getting 7Mbps as the std package23:34
* pbmdawg has GigE metropolitan-area-network connection23:34
pbmdawg(in his dreams)23:34
@snapcountshit... I think my dog is on catnip again23:35
* pbmdawg runs off to import some phone extensions.23:35
* crythias sits on his OC48 pipe. awe, yeah.23:35
@snapcountthat's a big pipe23:35
@snapcountmy sb server had oc4823:35
crythiassmoke em if you got em23:35
@snapcountIt's gone as of today23:35
@snapcountsniffle23:36
pbmdawgmine is live for another few weeks.23:36
pbmdawgmy 1 remaining out of the 4, I mean.23:37
crythiassnapcount's KR problem has the car going 120mph.. the other views are that KR stalls23:37
pbmdawgMy view is that KR stalls or the transmission breaks; one of those :)23:37
@snapcountyes but that is due to limitations of the carr23:37
@snapcountif the car could take it, caterus parebus, the semi-drive would have a firebird up his ass asking for Micahael23:38
crythiasManual transmission is great: drop clutch.23:38
crythiasok. what if instead there was a wench pulling the car up?23:39
crythiasnot that this is the case..23:40
@snapcountthat would be fine23:40
crythiashow fast would the wench be pulling the car?23:40
@snapcountrelative to?23:40
crythiasthe ground23:40
pbmdawgyeah, I think that realistically, it would need something to pull it up, unless he approaches the semi in 2nd gear, but puts it in gear as soon as the rear wheels slow down to carVsRamp speed23:41
@snapcountwench speed + semi speed23:41
@snapcountand as soon as the car is on semi entirely23:41
@snapcountjust the wench speed23:42
crythiaswhat's the difference between wench pulling and car driving?23:42
@snapcountthe wench is attached to the truck23:42
pbmdawgBWAHAHA23:42
pbmdawgcalc wench a young girl23:42
pbmdawgcalc winch a motorized cable-puller23:42
crythiasDepends on your characterization of Bonnie, I guess :)23:42
pbmdawgcalc wench23:43
@WREwench = a young girl23:43
crythiashee23:43
crythiasoops.23:44
crythiasbtw. gotta go. Be for my son's birthday23:44
@snapcountdid you guys hear the one about the pirate who walked into the bar with a steering wheel sticking out of his crotch?23:44
pbmdawghe needed someone to turn hiim on?23:44
@snapcountbartender: wtf is that?  a steering wheel?23:44
crythiason Robot Chicken.23:44
@snapcountpirate: yarrr, tis drivin' me nuts23:45
crythiasWhat does Soylent Green taste like? Varies from person to person.23:45
crythiasl8rness23:47
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@snapcountwhoa23:48
@snapcountall of the admin bars in head are empty23:48
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pbmdawg /Roy empties the bars00:13
@snapcountheh00:14
@snapcountJT forgot to commit the new template00:15
@snapcounthey I got this vmware img from you00:15
@snapcountif you run setenvironment in /data/wre/etc00:15
@snapcountand try to use svn00:15
@snapcountdoes it puke?00:15
pbmdawghuh00:15
@snapcounton your cent-os vmware image00:16
pbmdawgI didn't give you an image00:16
pbmdawgyou made it00:16
@snapcountno I didn't00:16
@snapcountI got it from you at JT's00:16
@snapcountI copied it from your computer00:16
pbmdawgI didn't think so00:16
pbmdawgit uses my passwords00:17
pbmdawgand I wouldn't have givne you my passwords00:17
@snapcountmaybe it's jt's image00:17
@snapcountcuz it's using pb passwords00:17
@snapcountanyways00:17
@snapcounttry running /data/wre/sbin/setenvironment00:17
@snapcountthen using svn00:17
@snapcountit's fucking annoying b/c i have to open a new shell that's not using wre env vars to use svn00:18
@snapcountlinkin park is so great00:19
@snapcountdedede00:26
@snapcount...I'm in love wit a strippa00:26
@snapcountdrop it low00:26
terjeeh, I'm back again00:58
terje<pbmdawg> but it should be able to find it if preload.perl is being loaded successfully00:59
terjeyes, preload.perl is being found correctly00:59
terjeand it's able to load WebGUI.pm00:59
terje[webgui@helo WebGUI]$ perl -c sbin/preload.perl01:00
terjesbin/preload.perl syntax OK01:00
terjeso if anyone has any ideas, I'm all ears.01:00
terjeI'll keep fiddling w/ it.01:00
@snapcounthttp://www.local6.com/news/7543710/detail.html01:00
@WRE<snapcount> http://tinyurl.com/gp7ez01:00
pbmdawgterje01:01
terjeyo01:01
pbmdawgyou cannot use those intall instructions you are using with webgui 5.5.801:01
pbmdawgthose are for 6.8+01:01
terjeno, I'm not using 5.5.801:01
pbmdawgoh; what version01:01
terjeI'm using 6.7-gammaa01:01
pbmdawgcan't use those install instructions with 6.701:01
terjeoh really?01:02
pbmdawgyes really01:02
terjethe install.txt file says to use those..01:02
terjeWhat is the current stable version?01:02
pbmdawg6.8.701:02
terjealrighty.01:03
terjeI'm starting over with that src.01:03
terjethanks.01:03
pbmdawgyou don't need to start over01:03
pbmdawgjust delete the /WebGUI dir and copy 6.8.7 there01:03
pbmdawgthe rest of your setup is fine01:03
pbmdawgyou don't need index.pl in 6.8, btw'01:04
terjeok01:04
pbmdawgthen of course load the new create.sql01:07
terjek01:08
terjethis is going much more smoothly :P01:13
@snapcountmmm smoothies01:15
pbmdawgwell I either found a bug in Data::Dumper or something else is seriously wrong01:17
pbmdawg$VAR1 = [01:17
pbmdawg          'userId',01:17
pbmdawg'         'internalExtension01:17
pbmdawg        ];01:17
@snapcountheh01:18
pbmdawgbut the bad part is01:18
pbmdawgforeach (@$VAR1) { print $_ }01:18
pbmdawgonly returns 'userId'01:18
@snapcountdoes it do if you use something besides the default var01:19
pbmdawgsame01:19
@snapcountforeach my $var (@$VAR1) { print $var }01:19
pbmdawgsame01:19
@snapcountwhat is $VAR101:20
@snapcounthash ref01:20
pbmdawgarray ref01:20
@snapcountwith one element01:20
pbmdawg201:20
@snapcountwhat are the elements, scalars?01:20
pbmdawgyes01:20
pbmdawgsupposed to be userId and internalExtension01:20
@snapcountthat's a pretty simple structure01:20
pbmdawgyou'd think.01:21
@snapcountso dumper is reporting data that doesn't exist in the array?01:21
pbmdawgdumper is reporting data that is supposed to exist01:21
pbmdawgbut that doesn't exist when I do foreach01:21
pbmdawgbut dumper has that apostrophe in a weird place01:22
@snapcountand why is that a data dumper problem?01:22
@snapcountahh01:22
@snapcountI see that now01:22
@snapcountI bet your structure is fucked up01:22
@snapcounthow is that array ref built01:22
pbmdawgbadly/wrongly, probably.01:23
@snapcountthats a lot of *ly's01:23
@snapcount!bash01:23
@WRE|bash 76905| <jjwalker> he was right, our mom is a weirdo...I went to go play laser tag, and I didn't tell her where I was going...and when I walked in just now she fucking assaulted my ass...with fists01:23
@WRE|bash 76905| <jjwalker> then she threw a book at me 0_o01:23
@WRE|bash 76905| <_seb_> damn man she anally fisted you?01:23
@WRE|bash 76905| <_seb_> that sucks01:23
@WRE|bash 76905| <_seb_> must have hurt01:23
@snapcountthat's rather disturbing01:24
@snapcountdude01:25
@snapcountsomeone broke my shiznet01:25
@snapcountCouldn't call method addToCart on asset for url: home/untitled Root cause: Can't locate object method "user" via package "Asset_EventManagementSystem" (perhaps you forgot to load "Asset_EventManagementSystem"?) at /data/WebGUI/lib/WebGUI/International.pm line 78.01:25
@snapcountwhat. the. hell.01:25
* snapcount get's out the light saber01:25
pbmdawghum01:26
pbmdawgthat might be a bug in perl01:26
pbmdawgI changed it to use push01:26
pbmdawgand it started working correctly01:26
@snapcountah ssss push it, push it real good01:26
pbmdawgmruhaha.  it is a bug in perl01:27
@snapcountare you using version 201:27
@snapcountI need to get some new 'shoes' for my ride01:27
pbmdawgif you put a scalar with an LF as the last char of the scalar into an array, that item in the array is ignored and read incorrectly.01:28
@snapcountdid you write a simple script to dup it01:28
@snapcountoutside of wg01:28
pbmdawgno but I can01:28
@snapcountI would01:28
pbmdawgthis is a script that's not in wg01:29
@snapcountthe simple part is the important part01:29
pbmdawgthis stuff happens before a wg session is even created.01:29
@snapcountno perl developer is going to look into this unless you can dup it with like two lines of code01:30
pbmdawgI know01:30
@snapcountthat would be pretty sweet if you found a bug in perl01:30
@snapcountpbmdawg++01:30
pbmdawgbuffer overflow here we come01:31
terjeso I've installed mod_perl as an RPM on FC4 but the perl modules are asking for it's src.. and apache's src code.01:31
pbmdawgroy can you help terje01:31
terjethis has been a rough exercise for poor terje.01:31
@snapcountwhy don't you just use the wre01:31
@snapcountit's much easier01:31
terjeI guess because I don't know what that is.01:31
terje:(01:31
@snapcountall of this stuff is already compiled for you01:31
@snapcountoh01:32
@snapcountshiza01:32
@snapcountcalc wre01:32
@WREwre = WebGUI Runtime Environment01:32
@snapcountit has all this crap pre-compiled and configured01:32
terjelordy01:32
@snapcountit's on sf.net01:32
* terje googles WebGUI Runtime Environment01:32
terjeis there an FC4 version?01:32
@snapcountwww.sf.net/projects/pbwebgui01:32
@snapcountthere's an fc version that will get you close enough01:33
@snapcountyou want 0.6.x01:33
@snapcountfor WG versions 6.8.+01:33
@snapcountdownload the source01:33
@snapcountand the prereqs tarball01:33
@snapcountactually01:33
@snapcountyou don't even need those01:34
@snapcountthat's only if you want to compile yourself01:34
@snapcountsigh01:34
@snapcountI'll go look01:34
* pbmdawg pokes roy for giving bad advice01:34
@snapcountand stop being lazy01:34
terjehttp://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=51417&package_id=14891301:34
@WRE<terje> http://tinyurl.com/rtvl401:34
@snapcounttry the one for rhel401:35
@snapcountthat should work fine01:35
@snapcountI need to setup an FC server and make a wre binary for it01:36
@snapcountIf I could only do it without having to do anything...01:37
* snapcount ponders01:37
terjelol01:37
terjeuse my machine01:37
terjeyou can install it for me while you're at it.01:37
terjeI've been at this 2 days now.01:37
@snapcountheh01:37
terje:(01:37
pbmdawgroy: not a bad idea01:37
@snapcountyeah01:37
pbmdawgI have all the fc4 cds downloaded so I could do it in a vm01:37
pbmdawgbut not tonight01:37
@snapcountI'm sure that one would go over great with the HNIC01:37
pbmdawgterje: do you have all the latest patches01:38
terjeOS patches?01:38
pbmdawgyeah01:39
terjeyes01:39
terjebut this system is a mess now01:39
pbmdawgFC4 has been for what, 9 months?01:39
pbmdawgout01:39
pbmdawg1 year?01:39
@snapcountabort01:39
@snapcountabort01:39
terjeI think longer01:39
terjeyea, I think I'll reinstall the OS before trying this01:40
terjethere's all kinds of perl mods and packages I probably don't need (from webgui 6.1.1)01:40
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@snapcountterje: here's the deal01:40
@snapcountthat binary sucketh01:40
@snapcountand won't work on FC401:40
@snapcounthowever01:41
@snapcountI have good news01:41
@snapcountyou can compile it all yourself01:41
terjei could use some01:41
@snapcountand it will work fine01:41
terjedude01:41
@snapcountall the shit you need01:41
@snapcountis in the package01:41
terjethere's a ridiculous amound of dependancies01:41
@snapcountyou just have to build it01:41
@snapcountit's all in there01:41
@snapcountthat's the whole point01:41
terjehow about you bake an FC4 binary and I install that01:41
terje:)01:41
@snapcountI could do that01:42
@snapcountdo you want me to?01:42
terjeI would love that.01:42
@snapcountyou know what01:42
@snapcountI will01:42
terjehurrah01:42
@snapcounta lot of people have asked01:42
@snapcountit should be there tommorow01:42
@snapcountor late tonight01:42
terjeI'm your new friend.01:42
@snapcountheh01:42
terjeok, I'll wait for it.01:42
terjeI have some much other stuff to do now.01:42
terjethanks man.01:42
@snapcountthe checks in the mail ;=)01:42
terjeright "no go away terje and never bother us again"01:43
@snapcountnah01:43
@snapcountif you were an idiot maybe01:43
@snapcountthen I'd just kick you01:43
@snapcountwebgui is a beeotch for even the best sysadmins01:43
@snapcountwe're trying to improve on that01:43
terjecool man, well I'd sure love to beta-test the FC4 binary.01:44
@snapcountI'll git 'r done01:44
@snapcountheh01:55
@snapcountI'm downloading these cd's01:55
@snapcountall four at the same time01:55
@snapcount150Kb/s each01:55
@snapcountnot too shabby01:55
* terje mixes a martini02:05
@snapcount!dubya02:27
@WRE"Listen, Al Gore is a very tough opponent. He is the incumbent. He represents the incumbency. And a challenger is somebody who generally comes from the pack and wins, if you're going to win. And that's where I'm coming from."02:27
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@snapcounthola02:55
@snapcountcoma estas02:55
@snapcountdonde esta el bano?  el queso es viaja y ongo02:55
@snapcountcrythia02:56
@snapcountcrythias02:56
@snapcountdid I make your screen blink02:56
crythiasyeah02:56
@snapcounthah02:56
@snapcounthi02:56
crythiasor.. gaim told me you typed my name02:56
@snapcounthow are you02:56
@snapcountwhere is the bathroom02:56
@snapcountthe cheese is old and moldy02:56
crythiasfine. the cheese is old and... stinky02:56
crythiasmodly02:56
crythiasok.02:56
crythiasmoldy02:56
@snapcountencino man02:57
crythiasbueno. Me gusta ensenar cosas nuevas02:57
crythiashow may I ab^hmuse you?02:58
@snapcountjust talkin02:58
@snapcountI didn't need anything02:58
crythiaskewl02:58
@snapcountI'm building an FC4 wre02:59
@snapcountbinary02:59
@snapcountif it's possible02:59
@snapcountJT has tried with FC3 and FC4 with no luck02:59
crythiasI should consider making a FreeBSD binary.02:59
@snapcountyeah what the hell02:59
@snapcount=)02:59
crythiasnot certain I want to do zip-n-go...02:59
@snapcountpointless03:00
crythiaswell,03:00
@snapcountwe have a windows wre in the works03:00
@snapcountit will be ready in 10^-2 centuries03:00
crythiasit'd be webgui.freebsd.tar.gz03:00
crythiasready in a year?03:01
crythiastime to take your axatives... it's time for American Idol eliminations.03:01
crythiaslaxatives.03:01
@snapcountheh03:01
@snapcountforgot you're a math guy03:02
@snapcountmost people are like huh?03:02
crythias10 types of people... those who understand binary, those who don't..03:02
@snapcountreally screw with them 10^-3 centuries03:02
@snapcountexactly03:02
crythias1.2 months?03:02
@snapcount1 century = 100 years03:03
@snapcountso .1 centuries03:03
crythiaswe've established 1^-2=1 year03:03
crythias10^-203:03
@snapcount365/1003:03
crythias12 months/1003:04
@snapcount36.5 days03:04
@snapcountor 365*.103:04
crythiasalmost a month03:04
@snapcountmore than a month03:04
@snapcountsee03:04
@snapcountisn't this fun03:04
@snapcount=)03:04
@snapcounttranslation03:04
@snapcountit will be done in 36.5 days03:04
@snapcountthe cheese is old and moldy03:05
crythiaschili con queso... a fromage03:10
crythiaswith cheese03:10
crythiasWaiter, I'll have pie a la mode. Actually, I'd like some ice cream, too.03:11
crythiasI think I might submit my SideBy Google to digg03:12
crythias"That's lame. Frames are so last century"03:12
crythiasI don't want to host it on my local box03:13
@snapcountheh03:14
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pbmdawghow's it coming terje03:36
pbmdawghave you made an FC4 wre binary for us yet? :)03:36
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wouter_procolixHoi Grobbebol :-)16:02
GrobbebolDag meneer Wouter16:02
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ian_procolixhoi wouter_procolix16:18
wouter_procolixhoi ian_procolix16:19
ian_procolixalles goed?16:20
ian_procolixdag marc16:20
Grobbeboldag ian16:20
ian_procolixhallooo16:20
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@snapcountwelcome, friends from the Netherlands17:32
@snapcountor is it just martin who is in the netherlands?17:32
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@snapcountcrythias!17:34
Ian|ProcoliXcolleges17:41
Ian|ProcoliXit is17:41
Ian|ProcoliXmr snapcount17:41
Ian|ProcoliXbut martin is in the netherlands aswell :-)17:42
@snapcountso I've decided I like VMWare17:52
@snapcountso much easier than dragging another machine out of the basement17:52
Ian|ProcoliX:P17:52
@snapcounthaving a damn serverfarm in the house to run all the *nixes17:52
Ian|ProcoliXbut less cool17:52
@snapcountyes in the social sense17:52
@snapcountnot in the thermodynamic sense17:53
@snapcounthehe17:53
Ian|ProcoliXtrue =)17:53
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@snapcountso what do you do over at Procolix Ian?17:53
Ian|ProcoliXsystem and network engineer17:53
@snapcountcool17:54
Ian|ProcoliXi gotta kill the webgui's that take 100% cpu load on our servers ;)17:54
@snapcountI have a great respect for network engineers17:54
@snapcountoh haha17:54
Ian|ProcoliXI have respect for them webgui developers17:54
Ian|ProcoliXhehe17:54
@snapcountI've been learning more about networking17:54
@snapcountI recently got iptables going17:54
@snapcountfor my gateway machine at home17:54
Ian|ProcoliXiptables is cool17:55
@snapcountmy latest conquest was snort and base17:55
Ian|ProcoliXI dislike snort17:55
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@snapcountso I can see all the script-kiddies and worms trying to violate me17:55
Ian|ProcoliXtakes to much cpu load17:55
@snapcountyeah17:55
@snapcountmy little gateway server is like "ummf"17:55
@snapcountbut it's not like a business or anything17:56
Ian|ProcoliXhehe17:56
@snapcountit's just for my enjoyment and entertainment17:56
Ian|ProcoliXyeah its fun to play around with when it works17:56
Ian|ProcoliXwhen it doesn't its a pain in the ass17:56
@snapcounttrue for many things17:56
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@snapcountI'm trying to compile a WRE binary for FC4 right now17:57
@snapcountso far so good17:57
Ian|ProcoliX:P17:57
Ian|ProcoliXwe're mostly into gentoo17:57
@snapcountI love gentoo17:57
@snapcountit's just cool17:57
Ian|ProcoliXyep17:57
@snapcounttakes like 10 years to install though if you compile everything17:58
Ian|ProcoliXwhaha yeah17:58
@snapcountbut that's also what makes it cool17:58
Ian|ProcoliXthats true17:58
Ian|ProcoliXwell im out18:00
Ian|ProcoliXcu later roy18:00
@snapcountlater man18:00
@snapcountnice talking with you18:00
Ian|ProcoliXlikewise18:00
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@snapcountgerald is coming18:50
@snapcountah18:50
@snapcountdamn it18:51
@snapcountyou beat me18:51
@snapcountfc 4 wre18:51
@snapcountso far so good18:51
@snapcountmysql is compiling now18:51
crythiassigh18:53
crythias6 diggs18:53
@snapcountwhat does that mean18:53
crythiashttp://digg.com/software/Mashup_any_WebPage_with_Google_at_the_click_of_a_button18:53
@WRE<crythias> http://tinyurl.com/mfktq18:53
crythiasah, well18:55
@snapcountwhat does 6 diggs mean though18:55
@snapcountare they like votes18:55
crythiasyeah18:55
@snapcountcan I vote for it18:56
crythiasI "digg" this18:56
crythiasif you have an account.18:56
@snapcounthaha18:56
@snapcount$$$18:56
@snapcount?18:56
crythiasFree18:56
@snapcountI'll promote your cause18:56
crythias:)18:56
crythiasThanks18:56
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@snapcountmaybe we can double your votes18:57
crythiasI can digg it you can digg it we can digg it :)18:57
@snapcounthow many are required for fame and fortune18:57
crythiashey ... 20 votes in an hourand I cna make it to front page :)18:57
@snapcountwe need to gather a militia for this task18:58
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@crythiasahh yeah... 'tis Matt! and welcome to .. here.19:02
@snapcountmatt19:02
@snapcountwe need your vote19:02
@snapcountdo you digg it19:03
@snapcountI just registered19:03
* pbmdawg crumples like a skyscraper19:03
@crythiasthen we'll bum rush digg for WebGUI 7 :)19:03
terjehey snapcount19:03
@snapcountuhh19:03
terjehow'd it go last night?19:03
@snapcountmy digg didn't get counted19:03
terje=)19:03
@snapcountit's still going19:03
@snapcountlooking good so far19:04
terjecool19:04
@crythiasdid your knees explode or were they hit by missiles?19:04
@snapcountmysql is compiling now19:04
terjeI'll re-image this box right now then.19:04
@snapcountI think we're over the hump19:04
@crythiasMaybe the planes had to bounce off the ground before landing in you.19:04
@snapcountapache/mp2/apr are the beeotches19:04
@snapcountand they are dizone19:05
terjeyou said hump..19:05
@crythiasWhatcha gonna do with all that junk.. all that junk in side your hump...19:05
@snapcountheh19:05
terjewhat we really need is just a WRE linux distro based on FC419:05
terjelike download and install this ISO19:05
@snapcountmatt19:05
@snapcountappliances?19:05
pbmdawghee.  I have it for Debian19:05
@crythiasu got me spendin'... spendin all my money on ye. all my time on ye.19:06
terjeyea dog19:06
pbmdawg334MB19:06
@snapcountnice19:06
@snapcountdoes it work yet19:06
pbmdawg(compressed)19:06
pbmdawgyeah19:06
@snapcountsweet19:06
pbmdawgjust not on macs19:06
terjethat is sweet.19:06
@snapcountab results?19:06
pbmdawgb/c there's no vmware player for a mac19:06
@crythias*in whiner mode* "No, not debian! I *must* have it for Ubuntu"19:06
@snapcountdoes it suck19:06
pbmdawgroyally19:06
@snapcountreally?19:06
pbmdawgno, hold on, I'll run ab19:07
@snapcountslower than crap eh19:07
@snapcountwe need to find someone with a production class machine19:07
@snapcountget the vmware player on it19:07
@snapcountsimmer, and let cool19:07
pbmdawgI have Athlon 300019:07
pbmdawg1 GB ram19:07
@snapcountcool19:08
pbmdawgthat's what I'm testing it on now19:08
@snapcountnow all we have to do is simmer, and let cool19:08
pbmdawgdo you want 100 unique visitors19:08
pbmdawg(new sessions created for each)19:08
pbmdawgor 100 of the same user19:08
@snapcountyes19:09
pbmdawggrr19:09
@snapcountI want to hear your smoke detectors go off as the cpu melts19:09
pbmdawg330KB/s19:09
@snapcountI choose a) alex19:09
@snapcount100 unique users for 30019:09
pbmdawgfor 100 unique users, 1 concurrent19:10
@crythias330 :)19:10
@snapcountmysql compiled19:11
pbmdawg6.8.7 btw19:11
@snapcountonto image magick19:11
@snapcountI'm in love wit a strippa...19:12
@snapcountdededededede19:12
@snapcountdrop it low19:12
* pbmdawg barfs all over his dog, who looks very dejected and sad as a result.19:12
@snapcountyou don't like strippers19:12
@crythiasonly when I'm painting.19:13
pbmdawg430 KB/s for -n200 -c5 with a wgSession cookie19:14
pbmdawgthat's not bad19:14
@snapcountto do a true test19:15
@snapcountyou'd need to run it native on equiv hardware19:15
pbmdawgyeah19:15
@snapcountand see the delta yo19:15
pbmdawgbut that beats plainblack.com :P19:15
pbmdawgheh19:15
* pbmdawg DOS's plainblack.com19:16
@crythiashee19:17
@crythiaswow.19:18
@snapcountmom19:19
@snapcounterr19:19
@crythiashee aay19:19
@snapcount.mom19:19
@crythias*mom19:19
pbmdawgWOWMOM19:19
@snapcountoh yeah19:19
@snapcountmy period was too low19:19
@crythiasI'm glad there's context for that statement.19:20
@snapcountlol19:20
@crythiaswoot?19:21
@snapcountman... it would be nice to have a dl380 g4 here to do this wre build with19:23
@snapcount15K scsi drives19:23
@crythiasheh19:24
pbmdawg30K19:24
@snapcounthyperthreaded cpus19:24
@snapcountlike 4GB of ram19:24
@snapcount*sigh*19:24
@crythiasbtw. my wife and I have a joke regarding "Don't end a sentence in a preposition"19:24
@crythiasA preposition isn't good to end a sentence with, dammit.19:25
@snapcountlike, "honey, do you want to go to bed early tonight, wink wink"19:25
@snapcountnone of those19:25
@snapcountoh19:25
@snapcountthat's proposition19:25
@snapcountmy bad shorty19:25
@snapcountfees19:25
@snapcountI'm segfaulting19:25
@snapcounta;alkjf19:25
@snapcountahh19:25
@snapcount$self->reboot19:26
@snapcount==(0* snapcount 1.0.59.64 ready for work --*\19:27
@crythiasheh. So the guy'd been in jail for a year. He was released, then arrested for soliciting a prostitute. The judge said, "what the heck? Don't you know you shouldn't end your sentence with a proposition?"19:27
@snapcountWould you like to play a game?19:27
@crythiasLet's play global thermonuclear war.19:27
@snapcounthow about a nice game of tic-tac-toe?19:27
@snapcountthe only winning move is... not to play19:28
@crythiasNo. Let's play global thermonuclear war.19:28
@crythiasChoose a side.19:28
@crythiasLet's play Russian19:28
@snapcountI'll go with pluto19:28
@snapcountthe planet, not the dog19:28
@crythiasjust making sure.19:28
* snapcount grabs some popcorn as earth destroys it's self19:29
@snapcountI'll go first19:29
@snapcountyou lost moscow19:29
@snapcountI win19:29
@snapcountyou sunk my battleship19:29
@snapcount!dubya19:30
@WRE"I mean, there needs to be a wholesale effort against racial profiling, which is illiterate children."19:30
@snapcountlol19:30
@snapcount!quote agthx19:30
@WREAGTHX -> 32.03 +0.10 / Last Trade  Mar  2 / Change  +0.31% / Volume  N/A / 52 Week Range N/A19:31
@snapcountgo baby go19:31
@snapcount!quote smcwx19:31
@WRESMCWX -> 38.54 +0.09 / Last Trade  Mar  2 / Change  +0.23% / Volume  N/A / 52 Week Range N/A19:31
pbmdawg!quote BC19:31
@WREBC -> 39.13 -0.63 / Last Trade  12:14pm / Change  -1.58% / Volume  39.24 / 52 Week Range 39.2819:31
* pbmdawg takes advantage of papajohns.com coupon: 1 large 2 topping for $7.9919:35
@snapcountbitch19:37
@snapcountI want some papa johns19:38
pbmdawg$7.9919:38
@snapcountand how do you expect me to come up with that kind of dough19:40
* snapcount slaps his knee19:41
@snapcountwoo19:41
pbmdawgsell your body19:41
pbmdawgshould take 2 nights19:41
@snapcountdamn19:41
@snapcountthat's not a bad idea19:41
@snapcountI only need one of these kidneys... probably stand to loose a nipple or something19:42
pbmdawgsell most of your liver; it'll grow back19:43
@snapcounttrue true19:43
@snapcountappendix, gal bladder19:44
@snapcountworthless19:44
@snapcountso I can get rid of those19:44
@snapcountbling bling19:46
@snapcountperlmodules are installing19:46
@snapcount'got new shoes on da ride... rollin' down 95'19:47
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@snapcountheh20:10
@snapcounttime for an experiment20:10
@snapcountstartkeylogger20:10
@snapcountstopkeylogger20:11
@snapcountdamn20:11
@snapcounthttp://blog.washingtonpost.com/securityfix/2006/03/keylogger_utterance_spooks_nor.html20:12
@WRE<snapcount> http://tinyurl.com/kgrwh20:12
@crythiasstartkeylogger20:41
@crythiasstopkeylogger20:41
@crythiasheh20:41
@snapcountyou all passed the test20:42
@snapcountdamn20:42
@snapcountlibapreq2 barfed20:42
@snapcountfigures20:42
@snapcountlast thing in the build20:42
@crythiaslibapreq2 inhales forcefully20:43
@snapcountI'll beat this bitch into submission20:43
* snapcount dons his gi and numbchucks20:44
@snapcountah20:44
@snapcountglue is missing a module20:45
@snapcountanyone want a dougnut?20:47
@snapcountI have cake style with chocolate glaze20:47
@crythiasglue!20:47
@snapcounttastes great, less filling20:48
@crythiashttp://mail.plainblack.com:8000/Lists/webguidev/Message/3218.html?Language=20:48
@crythiasEclair: tastes great, more filling!20:49
@snapcountI'm building glue manually20:49
@snapcountit wanted ModPerl::MM which isn't installed for some reason by wre or cpan via prereqs20:50
@snapcountappears to be compiling ok now20:50
@crythias1.fm rocks20:50
@snapcounthuh?20:50
pbmdawgECLAIRE.COM is already taken20:51
@snapcountI had a genuis plan20:51
@snapcountI was going to buy sketshooters.com20:51
@snapcountthat's what rappers are calling ejaculation now20:51
@snapcountsket20:51
@crythiasohh my beloved ice cream bar! how I love to lick your creamy filling!20:51
@snapcountso I was gonna sell it to some porn site20:51
pbmdawgskeet???????20:51
@snapcountthey spell it20:51
@snapcountsket20:52
@snapcountI looked at some lyrics20:52
@snapcountI bailed on the plan though20:52
@crythiasfountains of protein.com20:52
@snapcountlol20:52
@crythiasew20:52
@crythiasI think I'm going to be sick.20:52
@crythiaswhiteprotein.com20:53
@crythiasand it's available.20:54
@snapcountcheck sploogeblower.com20:55
@snapcountrofl20:55
@crythiasyes20:55
@snapcountwe should alias it to webgui.org20:55
pbmdawg     LOLPLATES.COM  $8.95*/yr20:55
pbmdawgavailable20:56
@crythiasheh! www.whiteprotein.com => "Welcome to plainblack.com"20:56
pbmdawgsploogeblower.com available20:56
@crythiassketshooter.com available20:56
@snapcountwhat does it mean when a test returns a result of dubious20:57
pbmdawgawwww  milfkiller.com already taken.20:57
@snapcounthow about20:57
@snapcountsoccermom.com20:57
@snapcounthas a nice ring to it20:57
@crythiasdat's just sick20:57
@crythiasdiediekitten.com20:58
@snapcountstacy's mom... has got it goin' on20:58
@snapcountso20:58
@snapcountwhat does it mean20:59
@snapcountthe test wants to smoke a dubious20:59
@snapcountI don't get it20:59
@snapcountlet's ask W21:01
@snapcount!dubya21:01
@WRE"They have miscalculated me as a leader."21:01
@snapcount!dubya21:01
@WRE"It's your money. You paid for it."21:01
@snapcount!dubya21:01
@WRE"If the East Timorians decide to revolt, I'm sure I'll have a statement."21:01
@snapcountawesome21:02
@snapcount!dubya21:02
@WRE"The California crunch really is the result of not enough power-generating plants and then not enough power to power the power of generating plants."21:02
@snapcountlol21:02
@snapcountwow21:02
pbmdawg!quote BC21:05
@WREBC -> 39.64 -0.12 / Last Trade  2:03pm / Change  -0.30% / Volume  39.60 / 52 Week Range 39.6521:05
@crythiascalc21:08
@crythiascalc random21:08
@WRENo calc set for "random"21:08
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@WREfoo = foobar21:08
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@snapcountgawwwddd21:09
@snapcountfreakin' idiot21:09
pbmdawgrandcalc21:10
@WREconfusion = <pb_M-Train> DUDE this ROCKS but I'm not sure what to do with it.21:10
pbmdawgrandcalc21:10
@WREabcstore = Poker in the front. Liquor in the rear. Anteater out until further notice.21:10
@snapcountrandcalc21:10
@WREpomade = <rizen> give me some of that palmade <MrHairGrease> I hope you mean pomade21:10
@snapcountrandcalc21:11
@WREtestes = here goes a new line  is it down here?21:11
@snapcountrandcalc21:11
@WREwouter = <crythias> so. is it pronounced like wooter or router?21:11
@snapcountROFL21:12
@snapcountI think that one is my new favorite21:12
@snapcount!poker21:13
pbmdawgrandcalc21:13
@WREtestes = here goes a new line  is it down here?21:13
pbmdawgrandcalc21:13
@WREmattscode = <pbmdawg> {dangit;} i broke 6.9... beyond repair, probably.21:13
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@WREurine = <pb_M-Train> Did you know that all humans can urinate through their navels?21:13
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@WREflame = Roy and Martin are lovers21:13
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@WREtwo = one21:13
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@WREbunghole = FIRE FIRE FIRE!!!21:14
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@WREabcstore = Poker in the front. Liquor in the rear. Anteater out until further notice.21:14
pbmdawgrandcalc21:14
@WREdocs = <snapcount> JT already wrote it <snapcount> currently it inserts 200 random words at a time into the database21:14
pbmdawgrandroy21:14
@snapcountd;alfkdj;a21:14
@crythiasrandcalc21:14
@WREurethra = {[23:14]} snapcount: or, you could commit it fucked up and try to get others to help you fix it21:14
@snapcountuh21:14
@snapcounterror21:14
pbmdawgrandcalc21:14
@WREmattcompile = <pb_M-Train>: I've never compiled anything before.21:15
@crythiasrandcalc21:15
@WREburn = brb self-immolation21:15
@snapcountdude21:15
@snapcountthey are screwed up21:15
pbmdawgrandcalc21:15
@WREstool = crythias: sharing stool. that's just .. gross.21:15
@snapcountthe keys don't match the values21:15
@snapcountweird21:15
pbmdawgyeah they do21:16
@snapcount!bofh21:16
pbmdawgjust that one was off21:16
@WREBOFH Quick-excuse: You can tune a file system, but you can't tune a fish, from most tunefs man pages21:16
pbmdawg!bash21:16
@WRE|bash 85565| <revision> in biochem class today, and our teacher, has the hugest fastest ass ever, massive fat ass right.21:16
@WRE|bash 85565| <revision> so hes writing on the board, and moving as he goes, when all of a sudden *WHACK*. he turned around too fast and his FAT ass hit the corner of his desk reall really hard.21:16
@WRE|bash 85565| <revision> lol drops to the ground for like 30 seconds while clutching his rump, then gets up and runs out, blubbering all the way.21:16
@WRE|bash 85565| <revision> i have never laughed so hard at someone elses expense.21:16
pbmdawg!bash21:16
@WRE|bash 88528| <Fark_Ninja> The most overlooked advantage to owning a computer is that if it fouls up there's no law against wacking it around a little.21:16
@WRE|bash 88528| <Cerebus> The same is actually true for a penis.21:16
pbmdawg!bash21:17
@WRE|bash 106602| <tr0n> OBLIQUE WROTE THE BOOK '101 HOME REMEDIES TO CURE WANKER'S CRAMP'.21:17
@WRE|bash 106602| <tr0n> AND IS NOW WORKING ON 'HOW TO RESTORE RECTAL ELASTICITY'21:17
pbmdawgcalc chirp "And I was thinking, 'chirpy chirpy chirpy'"21:17
pbmdawg!bash21:17
@WRE|bash 119073| <exo> why are redneck murders so hard to solve21:17
@WRE|bash 119073| <exo> cuz theres no dental records and all their DNA is the same21:17
@WRE|bash 119073| <fearz> HAHAHA21:17
pbmdawg!bash21:17
@snapcountheh21:18
@snapcountyou broke bash21:18
pbmdawg!bash ME21:18
@WRE!bash search results: Q# 23396 | Q# 4281 | Q# 5273 | Q# 99060 | Q# 244321 | Q# 287414 | Q# 99835 | Q# 207373 | Q# 5775 | Q# 475321:18
@snapcount!bash bash21:18
@WRE!bash search results: Q# 21516 | Q# 185361 | Q# 60469 | Q# 192531 | Q# 345144 | Q# 194647 | Q# 31 | Q# 230936 | Q# 140720 | Q# 5007021:18
pbmdawg!bash crythias21:18
@WRE!bash: no results found for search21:18
pbmdawg!bash roy21:18
@WRE!bash search results: Q# 104383 | Q# 151861 | Q# 408973 | Q# 520466 | Q# 402242 | Q# 610952 | Q# 15920 | Q# 181581 | Q# 56044 | Q# 1381321:18
pbmdawg!bash snapcount21:18
@snapcountooh21:18
@WRE!bash: no results found for search21:18
pbmdawg!bash 10438321:18
@WRE!bash: quote has too many lines to display in public channel (max 12, quote has 34): sending as privmsg instead21:19
pbmdawg!bash 15186121:19
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pbmdawg!bash21:19
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pbmdawg /kick crythias21:20
@WRE|bash| -[Conroy_Bumpus]- OH FUCK ME21:20
@WRE|bash| -[Conroy_Bumpus]- I FORGOT TO PICK UP MY 7 YEAR OLD DAUGHTER FROM SOCCER PRACTICE21:20
@WRE|bash| -[Conroy_Bumpus]- 9 HOURS AGO21:20
@WRE|bash| -[Conroy_Bumpus]- HOLY SHIT21:20
@WRE|bash| -[Conroy_Bumpus]- BYE21:20
@WRE|bash| <FoXeh> The most dangerous thing in the world is a Second Lieutenant with a map and a compass21:20
@WRE|bash| <FoXeh> Americans: Please divert your course 15 degrees to the North to avoid a collision.21:20
@WRE|bash| <FoXeh> Canadians: Recommend you divert YOUR course 15 degrees to the South to avoid a collision.21:20
@crythiaswhat?21:20
@WRE|bash| <FoXeh> Americans: This is the Captain of a US Navy ship. I say again, divert YOUR course.21:20
@WRE|bash| <FoXeh> Canadians: No. I say again, you divert YOUR course.21:20
@WRE|bash| <FoXeh> Americans: THIS IS THE AIRCRAFT CARRIER USS LINCOLN, THE SECOND LARGEST SHIP IN THE UNITED STATES' ATLANTIC FLEET. WE ARE ACCOMPANIED BY THREE DESTROYERS, THREE CRUISERS AND NUMEROUS SUPPORT VESSELS. I DEMAND THAT YOU CHANGE YOUR COURSE 15 DEGREES NORTH, THAT'S ONE FIVE DEGREES NORTH, OR COUNTER MEASURES WILL BE UNDERTAKEN TO ENSURE THE SAFETY OF THIS SHIP.21:20
@WRE|bash| <FoXeh> Canadians: This is a lighthouse. Your call.21:20
@WRE|bash 124804| <Sopabuena> I will name my children after my testicles21:20
@WRE|bash 124804| <Sopabuena> Left and Right21:20
@WRE|bash 124804| <GreenJeanz> .........21:20
@WRE|bash 124804| <Mort> I don't think 'small' and 'smaller' are very good names.21:20
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@snapcounthehe21:20
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@snapcountuh oh21:21
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@crythiasheh21:23
@crythiaslighthouse. your call21:23
@crythiasold joke.21:23
@crythiasguess he left21:24
@snapcountI privmsged him21:24
@crythiasI tried to /invite21:24
-!- mode/#webgui [+i] by crythias21:28
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@snapcountanyone care to help test wre for fc421:31
* snapcount throws a bucket of water on terje21:32
@snapcount62MB21:36
@snapcountmatt has put me on the ignore list21:38
* snapcount is ignored21:38
@snapcountcrythias, how bout it21:38
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@snapcounthe's bizack21:39
@snapcountdo you have fc4 installed matt21:39
@snapcountwanna help test21:39
pbmdawgno21:39
pbmdawgno21:39
@snapcountis that a no to both questions21:39
@snapcountor one no with strong emphasis to one of the questions21:40
pbmdawgyes21:40
@snapcounthehe21:40
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@snapcountwell fiddlesticks21:41
pbmdawgbuh roring21:44
@snapcountwhere should I stick this file21:53
pbmdawgguess21:53
@snapcountif you say up my ass21:53
@snapcountit would be funny21:53
@snapcountanyways21:53
pbmdawgSF21:53
@snapcountwhere should I put it so peeps can dl and test21:53
@snapcountyeah but21:53
@snapcountI wanna make sure it works first21:54
pbmdawgwhy; we release untested broken stuff all the time21:54
@snapcountheh21:54
@snapcountI guess my testing must suffice21:54
pbmdawgSTUFFIT22:04
@snapcountSKETSHTR22:05
@snapcountTHE HNIC22:05
pbmdawgSHIZZLE22:06
@snapcountMA GRILL22:06
@snapcountTUXNGOEY22:07
@snapcountCPANSUX22:08
pbmdawgCPANCAKE22:08
@crythiascalc urinecakes22:09
@WREurinecakes = <crythias> That's not belly lint, that's urine cakes.22:09
@snapcounthas anyone ever seen nuba speak?22:10
@crythiasI'm sorry. energy radio is probably my favorite feed ever.22:11
nubano22:11
@crythiasheh. Best way to stop people shorting your stock is to post a profit.22:13
@snapcountnuba: you're there22:14
@snapcountjust wondering22:14
@snapcountcrythias: you're failing to make sense again22:15
@crythiascomment posted to http://news.com.com/2100-1038-6045466.html?tag=tb22:15
@WRE<crythias> http://tinyurl.com/zjjk422:15
nubasnapcount: yes22:15
@crythiasson is complaining about short sellers of Overstock.com stock.22:15
@crythiascommenter says They won't do it if they post a profit.22:16
pbmdawgshort over stock stock22:16
@snapcountyeah22:16
@snapcountdon't overstock on overstock stock especially if overstock stock is selling short22:17
@crythiashttp://news.com.com/Need+your+PC+fixed+Get+ready+to+pay+up/2100-1041_3-6044445.html?tag=nefd.pulse22:17
@WRE<crythias> http://tinyurl.com/em3re22:17
nubasnapcount: sup ?22:27
@snapcountI'm building a new wre right now22:28
@crythiasa-shol-y22:30
@crythiasdunno. not making sense.22:31
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pbmdawgwouter23:07
@snapcountcalc wouter23:07
@WREwouter = <crythias> so. is it pronounced like wooter or router?23:07
wouter_procolixHi math23:07
wouter_procolixWell, some dutch people pronounce router like wooter, so that's a different question :-)23:08
wouter_procolixBut I guess it's like router :-)23:08
pbmdawgor like water23:08
pbmdawgor wuuter, as massachusets people pronounce "water"23:08
wouter_procolixHey, I have a WebGUI question:23:09
wouter_procolixabout the uploadsHandler23:09
wouter_procolixIs it always called in current WebGUI versions, or is there an option for it...23:10
pbmdawgcurrent?23:10
pbmdawg6.8.x ?23:10
wouter_procolixSVN version.23:10
wouter_procolix6.9923:10
wouter_procolixHmm, the question also for 6.8.7...23:11
wouter_procolixBecause some of our websites has problems with file permissions since it's upgraded to 6.8.7 yesterday.23:11
@snapcountfrom what?23:11
@snapcountwhat version were you at before?23:11
wouter_procolixHm, good question... I guess 6.5 or something like that... I'm not sure. I didn't do it myself.23:12
@snapcountoh23:12
@snapcountIt's not optional anymore afaik23:12
@snapcountit was in that version though23:12
pbmdawgit's probably a rewriting problem.23:12
wouter_procolixI changed the permissions using "Edit branch" but the .wgaccess files were not updated accordingly.23:13
@snapcountoh23:13
wouter_procolixAlso manual editing didn't work. So the images are still not visible :-(23:13
@snapcountthey won't be23:13
pbmdawgknown bug23:13
@snapcountevery time you edit a file23:13
wouter_procolixKnown solution??23:13
@snapcountit gets copied23:13
@snapcountand hence a new .wgaccess23:13
@snapcountbasically23:13
@snapcountthe files are being versioned23:14
@snapcountbut it's fucked up23:14
wouter_procolixYikes.. So no quick fix probably...23:14
@snapcountno.. colin and I worked on this for a while23:14
pbmdawgoh, I added a flag parameter to getFiles that gets all the files, including .wgaccess ones23:14
wouter_procolixWhat's getFiles?23:15
pbmdawgStorage::getFiles23:15
wouter_procolixokay.23:15
pbmdawgjust thought I'd throw that out there23:15
wouter_procolixmaybe a script to modify all .wgaccess files will do as a quick & dirty solution in this case.23:17
wouter_procolixBut I still don't understand the uploadsHandler (in SVN vesion)... I added some warn() statements in the uploadsHandler (between Session->open and $session->close), but nothing shows up in the webgui log when I access a file from the uploads directory.23:19
wouter_procolixs/vesion/version/23:19
pbmdawgthen 6.8.7 was upgraded/installed incorrectly23:22
wouter_procolix:-(23:24
@snapcounthey23:44
@snapcountwhere does apache get it's path when it runs something like preload.perl23:44
@snapcountthe bastard is using the wrong perl23:45
wouter_procolixAre you referring to the uploadsHandler problem??23:47
@snapcountno23:47
@snapcountI'm off on my own little tangent here23:47
wouter_procolixokay, phew...23:47
@snapcountsorry23:47
wouter_procolixthan bastard != me :-)23:48
@snapcountoh no23:48
@snapcounthaha23:48
@snapcountbastard == apache23:48
wouter_procolixYeah, I guessed ;-)23:48
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wouter_procolixOkay, another bug... Adding new subscriptions throws an error. I traced it to this line:00:02
wouter_procolixWebGUI::Commerce::Payment->recurringPeriodValues($session)00:03
wouter_procolix(well, that's part of the line).00:03
wouter_procolix$sessions seems fine at this point in the code00:03
wouter_procolixSo it must be in recurringPeriodValues I guess.00:03
wouter_procolixhttps://svn.webgui.org/svnweb/WebGUI%20SVN/view/WebGUI/lib/WebGUI/Commerce/Payment.pm00:03
@WRE<wouter_procolix> http://tinyurl.com/s7lz600:03
wouter_procolixThen something happens with "Tie::IxHash" but I have no idea what that is or how it works. Can someone take a quick look at the function?00:04
wouter_procolixIt's only 10-15 lines and might be just a stupid typo or something like that...00:04
wouter_procolixOh, by the way, the error is as follows:00:05
wouter_procolixCouldn't execute operation : WebGUI::Operation::Subscription::www_editSubscription. Root cause: Can't locate object method "user" via package "WebGUI::Commerce::Payment" at .../WebGUI/lib/WebGUI/International.pm line 78.00:06
@snapcountI was trying to figure this out yesterday00:06
@snapcountit's breaking my wobject00:06
@snapcountmy guess is that it's a call to the user object of session somewhere00:06
wouter_procolixIn www_editSubscription is a call to $session->user->isInGroup() but that works fine...00:08
wouter_procolixHmm:00:10
wouter_procolixWebGUI::International->new($session, 'Commerce');00:10
@snapcountwhat line of what file are you talking about?00:10
wouter_procolixThat's in Paymet.pm (link a few lines above00:10
wouter_procolix)00:10
wouter_procolixI still have difficulties with understanding how way Perl works....00:11
wouter_procolixWhat's the first argument ($_) in the function new, if it's called like above?00:11
wouter_procolix$session? or $class?00:11
wouter_procolixBecause in Internationalization.pm:00:11
wouter_procolixsub new {00:11
wouter_procolixmy ($class, $session, $namespace, $language) = @_;00:11
@snapcountthe way it's called above, $class will be equal to the part before the method00:13
@snapcount$class=WebGUI::International00:13
wouter_procolixOkay, then this seems wrong:00:13
wouter_procolixWebGUI::Commerce::Payment->recurringPeriodValues($session)00:13
wouter_procolixBecause in Payment.pm:00:14
wouter_procolixsub recurringPeriodValues {00:14
wouter_procolixmy ($session) = @_;00:14
wouter_procolixSo the first argument will be "WebGUI::Commerce::Payment" , isnt' it?00:14
@snapcounttry changing that to shift00:14
@snapcountmy $session = shift;00:14
wouter_procolixNope, that doesn't solve the problem :-(00:15
wouter_procolixBut it still looks wrong to me.00:16
@snapcountoh00:16
@snapcountit is wrong00:16
@snapcountyou can't do it like that00:16
wouter_procolixAH, I think I've got it.00:17
wouter_procolixI changed it like this:00:17
wouter_procolixsub recurringPeriodValues{00:17
@snapcountit has to be WebGUI::Commerce::Payment->new($session)->recurringPeriodValues;00:17
wouter_procolixmy $class = shift;00:17
wouter_procolixmy $session = shift;00:17
wouter_procolixAnd you're solution does make even more sense :-)00:18
@snapcountunless WebGUI::Commerce::Payment->recurringPayment is a constructor00:18
@snapcountthat won't work00:18
@snapcountthe other way to do it would be00:18
@snapcountmy $payment = WebGUI::Commerce::Payment->new($session);00:19
@snapcount$payment->recurringPayment();00:19
@snapcountperiod values00:19
@snapcountwhatever the method is00:19
wouter_procolixOh:00:20
wouter_procolixCouldn't execute operation : WebGUI::Operation::Subscription::www_editSubscription. Root cause: Can't locate object method "new" via package "WebGUI::Commerce::Payment"00:20
@snapcountoh00:21
@snapcountthe constructor must be something else then00:21
wouter_procolixinit...00:21
wouter_procolix=head2 init ( namespace )00:21
wouter_procolixI'm not sure about that...00:22
@snapcountsorry00:23
@snapcountI'm wrong00:23
@snapcountthat's not a class method00:23
@snapcountit's a procedural method00:23
wouter_procolixSo than my original solution is fine?00:23
@snapcountno00:23
@snapcountthe class name is not passed to the function when it's procedural00:24
@snapcountit's just for scope resolution00:24
@snapcountThe problem is probably in i18n00:24
@snapcountlook at the changes made to the Payment i18n00:25
wouter_procolixThe strange thing is that it worked (or at least it seemed to work) with one shift before "$session = shift"00:26
@snapcountreally?00:26
wouter_procolixI looked at other occurences of "WebGUI::International->new($session [, namespace]) and they all were the same...00:26
wouter_procolixYes, I get a working form back, and no errors in the log file.00:27
@snapcountI'm no perl OO expert myself00:28
@snapcountso we should probably ask someone why that works00:28
@snapcountto make sure it's right00:28
wouter_procolixI'll ask Martin... I think he wrote the Commerce system or a big part of it.00:28
@snapcounthe would know00:29
wouter_procolixBesides that, he has a lot of Perl experience, so he'll understand it better :-)00:29
wouter_procolixI've a lot of experience in C/C++ and some other languages, but Perl is so much different...00:29
wouter_procolixBy the way, when saving the new subscription, I still get the "Can't call method "user"" error, but I'll take a look at that later...00:30
wouter_procolixEither this was no good solution, or there is another bug.00:31
wouter_procolixSo I'm gonna stop working now.. I'll mail Martin about this problem. But thanks for the help. It's very helpful to talk about this stuff, IMHO.00:32
@snapcountI agree00:32
wouter_procolixokay, see you later than :-)00:32
@snapcountlaters00:32
terjehey snapcount00:33
wouter_procolixPS: Dag Ian :p00:33
terjejust checking ing..00:33
terjeerr, in.00:33
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terjeanything test-worthy?00:33
@snapcountI'm having issues00:33
@snapcountalmost00:33
terjecool mon00:33
terjeProlly Monday then..00:34
@snapcountprolly this weekend00:34
@snapcountbut by monday for sure00:34
@snapcountmy laptop sucketh00:34
@snapcountso compiling and recompiling is slow00:34
terjewerdup00:34
terjehonestly though I have a box you can use if you like.00:34
terjeIt's pretty speedy.00:34
terjeand it's got a fresh copy of FC4 on it =) - just let me know.00:35
@snapcountthanks... I'm just about done now though00:35
terjek00:35
@snapcountI'll keep that in mind00:35
terjek00:35
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pbmdawgterje01:13
pbmdawgyou can compile it yourself if you want.  I did it on centos and I'm a linux newbie01:14
* terje terje be laazie01:24
terjeI did think about it but snap said he'd hook itup.01:24
pbmdawgI doubt he gets to it tonight; you might just go ahead and try it assuming you have the time01:39
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perlDreamerif Gerald will write POD for 5 WebGUI core files, he gets my vote06:04
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pbmdawgterje: could you exit the room so we can reset the channel and give someone ops02:24
pbmdawgchansen: also you?02:24
pbmdawgnuba: you too?02:24
pbmdawgxdanger?02:25
snapcounteveryone out! =002:25
pbmdawgFire!!!!!!02:25
snapcountif everyone but wre leaves he will cycle the channel automagically02:25
pbmdawggood for him02:25
snapcounthe's freaking amazazzzing02:26
pbmdawghe probably did that earlier, and then deoped himself or something02:26
pbmdawgBIZATCHES02:26
pbmdawgNUBA02:29
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nubasup ?03:48
nubaoh, he left..03:48
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pbmdawgNO OPS04:09
pbmdawgpart-A04:09
perlDreamer0x0004:09
pbmdawgoops04:09
pbmdawgpar-TA04:09
perlDreameror in the case of my latest chip 5a5a5a5a04:09
perlDreamerthat would be two no-ops04:10
pbmdawgEAX04:10
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pbmdawgbanillion04:11
pbmdawgfasillious04:12
perlDreamercalc E-ROD04:12
WREE-ROD = Evil Release Overlord and Destructor04:12
perlDreamergreetings, Roy04:12
pbmdawgrandcalc04:12
WREplone = lame04:12
pbmdawgrandcalc04:12
WREconfusion = <pb_M-Train> DUDE this ROCKS but I'm not sure what to do with it.04:12
perlDreamernow that's funny04:13
perlDreameror rand isn't very rand-ish04:13
snapcountgreetings04:13
snapcountI see our effort to restore ops was a complete failure04:14
pbmdawgcalc papajohns sweet nectar of tomatos, cheese, and sugary dough with salty garlic yellow goo, and BACON, and pepper-ONI04:15
pbmdawgcalc papajohns04:15
WREpapajohns = sweet nectar of tomatos, cheese, and sugary dough with salty garlic yellow goo, and BACON, and pepper-ONI04:15
pbmdawgyeah no one left04:16
perlDreamerso if no one is OP, how does one get op'ed?04:16
snapcounteveryone has to leave04:17
snapcountand the channel will be cycled by wre04:17
snapcountwhich will give him ops04:17
snapcounthe in turn04:17
snapcountwill op us04:17
snapcountthus restoring order04:17
perlDreamerbut _everyone_ has to leave04:17
perlDreamereven xdanger the schizo bot/user dude?04:20
snapcountok04:20
snapcountI'm going to resort to darker methods04:20
snapcountstartkeylogger04:20
snapcountnope04:20
snapcountlet's try this04:20
pbmdawgroy: unblock me04:23
pbmdawgor suffer the consequences04:23
pbmdawghey04:23
snapcounthey04:24
snapcountDCC SEND "byebyek" 0 0 004:24
pbmdawgcalc extort <pbmdawg>: in high school p.e. class, our "coach" took us all to the local bowling alley, and each day each person put a dollar to the winner's pot.  Guess who won every day?04:26
snapcountDCC SEND 01234568901234567804:26
snapcountfuck04:26
snapcountthe exploits aren't working04:27
snapcountno one is vulnerable04:27
perlDreamer"I am invincible!"04:27
perlDreamername that movie04:27
pbmdawgGoldeneye04:27
pbmdawgof course04:28
perlDreamerprops to the representative from Kansas04:28
pbmdawgI used to say that all the time04:28
perlDreamerwhat happened to the Floridian quote-a-matic?04:28
snapcountI'm about to DDos those who are not complying04:28
snapcounthopefully none of them are sitting at a university somewhere w/ an OC4804:29
pbmdawgI think EV1 might shutter all our servers if you use those04:29
perlDreamerif you can get the lurkers to leave, I'll go too04:29
pbmdawgDIE DIE DIE lurklers04:30
snapcountI wouldn't do that04:30
snapcountI'm not insane04:30
snapcountI have other machines for such purposes04:30
snapcountDCC SEND "byebyek" 0 0 004:30
pbmdawg0DAYWRZ04:35
perlDreamerBAKD00R04:36
snapcountok04:37
snapcountthis will take a little prep04:37
perlDreamery'all think these 17" displays are too big?04:37
snapcountjust so everyone knows04:37
snapcountthis is not malicious04:37
snapcountno harm intended04:37
snapcountyou will just fall off of freenode for a bit =)04:37
* snapcount prepares to save the day04:37
pbmdawghow is saving the day going04:58
snapcountslowly04:58
snapcountI have to setup a few more bots04:58
snapcountit's going to be cool04:58
snapcountit might suck if they have a script to auto rejoin or something04:59
snapcountor a lot of bandwidth04:59
snapcountbut hey04:59
snapcountworth a shot04:59
pbmdawgAccidental Damage Protection (Except in Florida)05:03
pbmdawgyou can't get ADP in florida05:03
snapcountwhat?05:03
pbmdawgthrough dell05:04
snapcountoh05:04
pbmdawgyou can't but accidental damage protection05:04
pbmdawgbuy05:04
pbmdawgoh well.05:23
pbmdawgit wasn't meant to be05:23
pbmdawg(with me here, tonight, at least)05:23
snapcountwhat's that05:23
pbmdawgl8r05:24
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snapcountheh05:24
snapcounthe's going to miss the fun05:24
snapcountmy army is compiling as we speak05:24
perlDreamerwhat hackery are you brewing?05:47
perlDreamerand why didn't you use perl?05:47
snapcounthehe05:54
perlDreamerstill here06:16
snapcountyrs06:16
perlDreameryrs?06:16
snapcounty06:17
perlDreamerwhat's yrs?06:17
perlDreamerwhat does it mean?06:17
snapcountredneck for yes06:17
perlDreamerroger06:17
perlDreamerI didn't know that you spoke rednect.06:31
perlDreamerredneck06:31
snapcountheh06:32
snapcountyou must learn at least one foreign language in college06:33
perlDreamerthat's not a foreign language, it's a dialect06:33
perlDreamerI mean, do you really think an oregon redneck and florida redneck could communicate with one another?06:33
snapcounthmm06:34
snapcountperhaps06:34
perlDreameroh, sure.  there are commonalities, like tobacco spitting etiquette06:34
perlDreamermonster truck discussion06:34
perlDreamerand talk about how to sight in your new rifle06:34
perlDreamerbut how do they talk about swamp boats, or snow mobiles06:34
perlDreamerit just wouldn't work06:35
snapcountsigh06:35
snapcountI think you're right06:35
perlDreamerare you about ready to nuke us?06:35
snapcountI couldn't make it work on one server06:35
snapcountI'm trying it on another one now06:36
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snapcounthehehe06:43
snapcountthere's one06:44
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perlDreamertwo06:48
snapcountwre counts as well06:48
snapcountso that's three06:48
snapcountI'm going to make one more06:48
perlDreamerso what's the strategy?06:48
snapcountthey all are connecting from the same host so I have to be carefull06:48
snapcountflood06:49
snapcountall the bots will ping them simultaneously06:49
snapcountwhen they attempt to reply to all of them06:49
snapcountirc will think they are flooding the channel06:49
snapcountand kick them06:49
snapcountI have to install the script that will cooridinate the ping06:50
perlDreamerand the channel gets cleared and you can be OP06:50
perlDreamercool06:50
snapcountwell, when everyone is gone06:50
snapcountI will leave also with the bots06:50
snapcountthen when I join06:50
snapcountI'll have ops06:50
snapcountbasically I'll be creating the channel06:51
snapcountif it works06:51
snapcount=)06:51
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perlDreamerhmmm06:57
perlDreamer$#bots == $#people06:57
perlDreamerwe're about 12 files away from the test run being setup06:58
snapcountsweeet06:59
perlDreamerone small problem, though06:59
perlDreamerall mixin packages fail the POD test06:59
perlDreamereven though they have POD06:59
perlDreamerit's because their package namespace differs from the filename06:59
perlDreamerhaven't figured out a way around it yet07:00
snapcountah07:00
perlDreamersounds like you're not having much luck either07:25
snapcountjust about ready07:26
snapcount!rp_channels07:43
perlDreamerahhh07:43
perlDreamerAAAAHHHHHHHH07:43
snapcounthuh?07:43
perlDreamerI was preparing for Armageddon07:44
snapcountnot quite07:44
perlDreamerbut nothing is happening07:44
snapcountheh07:45
perlDreamerten files and counting, plus 8 mixins07:48
snapcountcool07:48
snapcountcolin07:49
perlDreameryeah07:49
snapcountcut and past like 30 lines into the channel07:49
perlDreamer30 lines, okay07:49
snapcountyou'll prolly get kicked07:49
snapcountbut come back07:49
perlDreamerok 238 - WebGUI::Session::Style07:49
perlDreamerok 239 - WebGUI::Session::Url07:49
perlDreamerok 240 - WebGUI::Session::Var07:49
perlDreamerok 241 - WebGUI::Storage07:49
perlDreamerok 242 - WebGUI::Storage::Image07:49
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snapcountI think I loaded the wrong script07:49
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perlDreameryup, kicked07:50
snapcountwrong script then07:51
snapcountI'll continue this in the morning08:00
snapcountlater08:00
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xdangernothing yet =(17:06
snapcountare'nt you on the chanserv as an op?17:06
snapcountyou registered the channel right?17:08
xdangerno i didn't17:12
snapcountI thought I saw freenode op you17:12
* snapcount shrugs17:12
xdangerthat was propably after a network split17:12
snapcountoh17:12
snapcountI tried registering the channel and someone has already17:12
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crythiasok.17:24
* snapcount puts17:24
snapcountyou don't have to leave17:24
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crythiasputs, putts, pouts?17:24
snapcountpouts17:24
crythiasstats p not working in gaim17:24
crythiasno /who either17:24
crythiashi17:25
snapcountdamn idlers17:25
crythiasum. yeah17:25
snapcountI'm going to set the bot to start kicking them17:25
crythiasxdanger disappeared17:25
snapcountso this doesn't happen again17:25
crythiaschansen17:26
crythiasterje17:26
snapcountI'm kind of grumpy17:26
crythiasunderstood17:26
snapcountwe lost a pretty important server last night17:26
snapcounttwas a late night17:26
crythiasoh? ick.17:26
snapcounthad to buy a new server17:26
snapcountand17:26
snapcountthe one that died17:26
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snapcounthosted about 80 sites and our primary dns17:27
crythiasI've been warned that my traffic was too much on my free host.17:27
crythiasack! ack! ack!17:27
snapcountyeah17:27
snapcountit sucked hard17:27
snapcounthi bear17:27
snapcountfor some reason libapreq is using the wrong perl17:28
snapcountI'm so close to having this fc4 wre17:28
crythiash17:28
snapcounti17:29
snapcountj17:29
snapcountk17:29
snapcountl17:29
crythiassanpcount: http://freenode.net/group_registration.shtml17:29
WRE<crythias> http://tinyurl.com/7yvxk17:29
crythiasI think it's time to check it out.17:29
xdangerBearPerson is a freenode staffer, and could help us get ops back17:29
snapcountoh17:29
crythiaskewl17:29
snapcountthanks x17:29
BearPersonI'm not sure if you'd quite qualify for primary group, let me see17:29
snapcountwe usually have more peeps17:30
BearPersondoes any of you run/own something called "webgui" ?17:30
snapcountthey all left b/c we're trying to cycle the channel17:30
snapcountyes17:30
BearPersonhmm17:30
snapcountI work for Plainblack17:30
snapcountthe comapany that makes WebGUI17:30
crythiashttp://www.plainblack.com/webgui17:30
crythiashttp://www.plainblack.com/staff snapcount is roy johnson17:31
crythiasI'm a volunteer.17:31
BearPersonhmm17:31
* snapcount dcc's some dna to BearPerson =)17:31
BearPersonokay, looking good so far then17:31
BearPersonhmm17:32
BearPersonyeah, http://freenode.net/group_registration.shtml it will be then17:33
WRE<BearPerson> http://tinyurl.com/7yvxk17:33
snapcountI need to read through this?17:33
BearPersonhow high op the food chain can we get someone to fill out an approving group form for one of the people in here?17:33
BearPersons/op/up/17:33
BearPersonyeah, would help 8-)17:34
snapcountok17:34
crythiasProbably JT17:34
snapcountI'm in charge or all our community stuff17:34
snapcountbut I could get my boss to do it17:34
snapcounthe owns the company17:34
BearPersonthat'll work 8-)17:34
snapcountk17:34
snapcountso after we fill this out17:34
snapcountwe'll have ops again =)17:34
BearPersonif you could get him to fill out one form as "approving contact" and you fill one out as "being approved" with his name in the "approved by", we should be fine17:35
snapcountok cool17:35
snapcountappreciate the help17:35
snapcounthe's still sleeping b/c of last nights server episode, so we'll have to wait a bit17:40
xdangerwhat kind of episode ?-)17:40
snapcountcomplete hardware failure17:41
snapcountprimary dns17:41
snapcountabout 80 sites17:41
snapcountwe got it back up pretty fast17:41
chansenwhatsup?17:41
chansencrythias: you called?17:42
snapcountchristian!17:42
snapcountnobody has ops17:42
crythiasyeah, that17:42
crythiasnuba17:42
chansenwho need ops? ;P17:42
snapcountwe were trying to get everyone to leave so we could cycle the channel17:42
snapcounthehe17:42
xdangerthose are nice... especially sunday evenings =)17:42
snapcountxdanger: no doubt17:42
snapcountI was just about to crawl into bed17:43
snapcountand my phone starts going off with messages from the server17:43
snapcount'help me, I'm dying'17:43
chansencat FreeNode provide some assistant?17:43
chansens/cat/can't/17:43
snapcountyeah17:43
crythiasyeah but it's paperwork :)17:43
snapcountBearPerson is a fn staffer17:43
snapcountwe're going to register the channel17:44
snapcountbut we have to wait for JT to wake up17:44
snapcounthaha17:44
chansenit's kind of rude to ask people to leave, and even worse, cursing them.17:45
xdangerhey, I actually have a question about wg... Is anyone doing anything to tempalate pagination ?17:46
snapcounttemplate it how?17:48
snapcountso the links are templatable you mean17:49
xdangeryes... We have a "multilingual" site that has event calendars on every language and "Previous 6 months - Next 6 months"17:50
xdangerIt would also be nice to have CS with out >> or << marks..17:50
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snapcounthey matt17:51
pbmdawghey drivel-tongue17:51
xdangersomeone could bread down the pagination.nextPage variable to pagination.nextPageUrl .nextPageText or something like that17:52
snapcountdo you have perl skillz?17:54
xdangerlittle hacking now and then...17:54
snapcountwell, if you want to implement it using 6.9917:54
snapcountyou can submit your patch to the dev list17:54
snapcountand we could get it in 717:55
snapcountI'll answer questions and stuff17:55
xdangerThere was some talks about convertion pagination to utility asset ?17:55
snapcountbut I don't have time to do it myself17:55
snapcountI never heard that discussion17:55
xdangerrfe 122946617:55
xdangersnapcount: http://tinyurl.com/zw5gy17:56
snapcountthat looks like matt's baby17:58
pbmdawgmore like my tarbaby17:59
snapcountpfft17:59
pbmdawgoh wait, that's the calendar.17:59
snapcountdid you ever run this idea by JT?17:59
snapcountxdanger: I would suggest posting to the dev list referencing the rfe18:00
snapcountif you're willing to try and implement it18:00
snapcountmake sure you state the end goal18:00
snapcountas JT may no like the proposed implementation18:00
snapcountbut he will suggest alternatives18:01
snapcountif you tell him what you're trying to accomplish18:01
xdangerpagination is just about the last thing in webgui that hasn't been templated =)18:02
snapcountI agree18:02
snapcountI think it would be cool18:02
snapcountyou better do it fast though... in about two months no new features are going in for quite some time18:03
snapcountnow is the time to do it18:03
pbmdawgnot quite the last thing.18:03
pbmdawgthe form controls are not templatable (programmatically)18:03
pbmdawgnor is the edit profile screen.18:03
pbmdawgnor is the admin console (enough)18:03
snapcountbah18:03
xdangerpbmdawg: you remember this:18:04
xdanger15:46 <@xdanger> since we're using mod_perl2 shouldn't we use something like $r->filename($storage->getPath($self->get("filename"))); return Apache2::Const::DECLINED;   instead of redirect ?18:04
pbmdawgyeah18:04
xdangerhave you given it any thougts ?18:04
xdangerI just realized since storage is versioned with the changes to the asset, the files "real url" changes...18:05
xdangerthis could be a bad thing for linking or search engines18:05
xdangerit you do that passthru apache the url would be always the same but you could still version the storage locations...18:06
* pbmdawg is too busy to reply atm18:06
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terjemorning all19:32
terjehey snapcount - how's the FC4 binary?19:33
terjeI'll check site..19:33
snapcountI'm troubleshooting a problem with libapreq19:36
terjeah ok..19:39
crythia1seems reasonable that all but nuba could leave and come back?20:11
BearPersonthe problem is timing it right20:11
nubahey20:12
crythia1hey20:13
crythia1got nuba.20:13
nubai can leave & join later if need20:13
crythia1xdanger?20:13
snapcountI emailed JT about the group reg20:13
crythia1pbmdawg?20:13
pbmdawghere20:13
crythia1kill your bot, though, snapcount20:13
crythia1chansen?20:13
nubanevetheless, this is a very lame way of handling the channel20:14
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crythia1yeahbut we're fixing it.20:14
crythia1long term20:14
nubayup20:14
crythia1just short term is an issue.20:14
crythia1by we I mean not me20:14
snapcountpfft20:14
crythia1heh20:14
snapcountchansen20:14
-!- crythia1 is now known as crythias20:15
snapcountat least we don't have 40 people in here20:15
pbmdawgfollow my lead20:15
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BearPersonwell20:15
nubayeah that'd be rediculous20:15
nubaridiculous*20:15
nubaok there we go20:15
crythias#webgui-waitingroom20:15
BearPersonif you have any short-term issues I think I can cover20:15
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snapcountso are we all leaving now?20:16
snapcountis that the plan20:16
snapcountlol20:16
crythiasonly if we can catch chansen20:16
crythiasand terje20:16
crythiasand xdanger20:16
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snapcountdoh20:16
BearPersonhmm20:16
snapcountthis will make a great story one day20:16
nubaheh20:17
BearPersonanything immediate you need channel registration/ops for?20:17
crythias#webgui-waitingroom20:17
nubaok20:17
BearPersonnuba, you're not identified to nickserv by the way20:17
BearPersonI mean, we could just run the channel opless until we can get the group thing covered20:17
snapcountBearPerson: not really... just piece of mind and that special feeling you get with an @ next to your nic20:18
nubaBearPerson: just id'ed20:18
nubathx20:18
BearPersonand in case anything happens where we do need staff, I'll do my best to find some with whatever powers we need20:18
BearPersonhttp://freenode.net/channel_guidelines.shtml (second bullet) ;-)20:18
nubaso, should people go to #webgui-waiting room or stay here ?20:19
crythiasexcept, we're kinda ok with those who have ops.20:19
crythiasbut I like channel access list thing20:19
nubacome on, can one of the op-less ops herd us ? ;)20:19
BearPersonwell, you'll get the channel registration in the long run anyway20:20
snapcountwow20:21
snapcountI'm not a very good channel op20:21
snapcountI think I've broken just about every rule in that link20:21
BearPersonhehe20:22
BearPersonyou can always learn :P20:22
BearPersonthat page is just guidelines from freenode20:22
BearPersonthe things we found that tend to make channels nice and productive20:23
crythiasI think we need to have a vi vs. emacs war, here.20:23
BearPerson:)20:23
crythiasbecause we all know that notepad rocks.20:23
snapcountnotepad++20:24
nubabah i guess a fckedirot vs tinymce vs htmlarea would be more related to #webgui20:26
snapcountfreenode seems like a socialist kinda place which is odd compared to most irc networks20:27
snapcounttake Efnet for example20:27
BearPersonthanks :-)20:27
snapcount"remember...it's just irc.  we don't care"20:27
BearPersonwe try to not be "IRC" :)20:27
snapcounti see20:27
snapcountfunny thing is when matt created this channel, he just randomly picked the network20:28
snapcountit's nice you guys give a crap20:28
BearPersonwe may just be a bit complicated about all this group stuff20:28
BearPersoncompare http://freenode.net/policy.shtml#ontopic - we actually care what the channels on our networks are about ;-)20:29
snapcountwe fit #120:30
snapcountwoo hoo20:30
snapcountwe can stay!20:30
BearPerson:)20:31
BearPersonfreenode is all about providing a communication medium for groups that already exist outside of IRC20:32
BearPersonI sometimes think of it as the friendly playground where all the children from the block can come to play vs. the ruined playground where the junkies gather and hang out 8-)20:33
nubaheh20:33
BearPersonwe're not really about forming groups on IRC (think warez/clan/gaming channels)20:34
BearPersonwe're currently writing something about that on http://freenode.net/humans.shtml20:36
BearPersonI guess the "meta-community" part is what I'm trying to say20:36
snapcountI get it now20:37
snapcountit's a cool idea20:37
snapcountfunny how we've just kinda been here and never bothered to read any of this stuff20:37
BearPerson:)20:37
snapcountI'm sure you get a lot of that20:38
crythiasactually, I chose it, cause it was default in gaim.20:44
snapcountoh20:44
snapcountmy bad20:44
crythiasnp20:44
snapcountI thought it was matt20:44
crythiasit was a collab. Colin had issues with direct IM. probably talked with Matt about it. I got involved in an issue, and created #webgui.20:45
crythiasbut the idea was Colin's and Matt's originally.20:46
BearPersoninteresting... a client where we are default ;-)20:46
BearPersonwe were removed from irssi's server list because they thought us not IRCish enough20:46
nubaoh i tried joining #webgui on freenode a few times before it came to actually exist. saw nobody, then left...20:46
BearPersonand requested to be taken off the mirc list to make less of a target for spambots20:47
nubasame thing on irc.perl.org20:47
crythiasheh.20:47
crythiaswell, part of #webgui's staying power has been some lurker/op holders. Some of it has just been increased (I believe) productivitiy among those who participate, and then there's just me.20:48
-!- snapcount changed the topic of #WebGUI to: We don't need no stinkin' ops!20:49
crythiasproductivity wrt working out bugs in the project20:49
snapcounteek!20:49
snapcountyou said the 'b' word20:49
crythiasum.. undocumented features, sorry.20:49
snapcounthehe20:50
crythiasbut we do diversify somewhat. it's not all perl...20:51
crythiaswe go offtopic some times. issat bad?20:51
crythiassometimes we just need to de-stress20:52
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crythiasguess we gotta stop with the LICNSTAG20:52
pbmdawgwhy is that20:52
crythiasOff-topic activity may result in users being   barred from the network.20:53
crythias*sniff*20:53
snapcountOFFTOPC20:53
pbmdawgzhyikes!20:53
crythiashttp://freenode.net/policy.shtml#offtopic20:54
pbmdawgthat would be a good movie title.  ("off topic")20:54
crythiasNo more NICERUG20:54
pbmdawgFRNCHME20:54
snapcountcrythias: don't make me come over there20:55
snapcountdid you read the whole paragraph?20:55
crythiasvarious forms of antisocial behavior20:55
snapcountif we're channeling goatse images we could get banned20:55
pbmdawgargh.20:56
pbmdawgthat means dubya is illegal too20:56
snapcounthey20:56
snapcountthat's just the facts20:56
snapcounthe said20:56
snapcountit20:56
pbmdawgpolitical invective20:56
pbmdawgstill.20:56
pbmdawgpr0n is "just the facts" too20:56
snapcountthere is nothing derogotary20:56
snapcountit's left to the user to interpret20:56
snapcount(I know you're right btw)20:57
crythias"I don't know much about pr0n, but I know what I like."20:57
snapcountwe may be too wild and unorthodoxed for freenode20:57
* pbmdawg dances with some hax0r activity20:57
crythiasbut hardly even know 0r20:59
* pbmdawg install IIS 2.0 on his unfirewalled pc.20:59
crythiasbecause ?21:00
pbmdawghttp://freenode.net/policy.shtml#proxies.21:00
snapcountwell, at least you guys are reading the rules21:01
BearPersonwell, being a bit off-topic on channel is okay21:01
BearPersonthis is still your channel, meant so yau can communicate, develop social skills, and socialize :)21:02
crythiaswith respect to freenode ops, if we've tacitly agreed to the content amongst the few of us (and it's not illegal), we'd generally be ok, right?21:02
snapcountnotice he mentioned *develop social skillz*21:02
* crythias smacks snapcount with a trout. 21:03
crythiassmells like fish...21:03
* snapcount punches crythias in the arm, "punch buggy green no punch back!"21:03
* pbmdawg wipes his mouth with an empty doritos bag.21:03
crythiasow!21:03
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* crythias rubs his arm.21:03
snapcountcolin!21:03
crythiasI'm tellin' mom!21:03
pbmdawgNILOC21:04
BearPersonyeah21:04
pbmdawgBearPerson = Colin ?21:04
BearPersonwithout complaints, we don't do anything at all usually :-)21:04
perlDreamerNo, I'm clothed thank you21:04