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| crythias | *yawn* | 15:49 |
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| crythias | would you try something for me? | 19:26 |
| MrHairgrease | sure | 19:26 |
| crythias | do you have a browser that you can use the links toolbar for? | 19:26 |
| MrHairgrease | I don't even know what the links took bar is | 19:27 |
| MrHairgrease | I only have ff 1.0.2 available right now | 19:27 |
| crythias | ok. np. Actually, I gotta go to lunch. | 19:27 |
| MrHairgrease | bon apetit | 19:27 |
| crythias | check this out: http://www.gwy2.org/sbs/sbs.html?url=http://www.plainblack.com/discuss | 19:27 |
| @WRE | <crythias> http://tinyurl.com/jp65p | 19:27 |
| MrHairgrease | what is it good for? | 19:29 |
| crythias | tech support | 19:29 |
| MrHairgrease | I can see its usefulness for that indeed | 19:29 |
| crythias | I have a button that automatically adds google search to any page. | 19:29 |
| MrHairgrease | how does it do that | 19:30 |
| MrHairgrease | javascript? | 19:30 |
| crythias | so, you just click the button for the page you're on, and you get full google search | 19:30 |
| crythias | yeah | 19:30 |
| crythias | and frames | 19:30 |
| MrHairgrease | cool | 19:30 |
| MrHairgrease | submit it | 19:30 |
| crythias | I based it upon something like www.gahooyoogle.com | 19:30 |
| crythias | I've always wanted an easy way to split a current page/screen | 19:31 |
| crythias | and browser wasn't cutting it for me. | 19:31 |
| MrHairgrease | yeah | 19:31 |
| MrHairgrease | first useful use of frames i'v ever seen | 19:31 |
| crythias | you're using firefox, right? | 19:31 |
| MrHairgrease | yeah | 19:32 |
| crythias | you have the "Recent Headlines" bar, right? | 19:32 |
| MrHairgrease | could be | 19:32 |
| crythias | unless you've customized it. | 19:32 |
| MrHairgrease | never looked into the 'advanced' features | 19:32 |
| MrHairgrease | If I can browse it ok | 19:32 |
| crythias | "links" bar is just a list of one-click things, where the rss feeds go. | 19:32 |
| MrHairgrease | oh and I use the webdevelopers toolbar | 19:33 |
| MrHairgrease | Oh ok | 19:33 |
| MrHairgrease | I never use rss feeds | 19:33 |
| crythias | !seen pbmdawg | 21:32 |
| @WRE | pbmdawg (n=SysAdmin@CPE-65-31-211-163.kc.res.rr.com) was last seen parting #WebGUI 16 hours, 38 minutes ago stating "{}". | 21:32 |
| crythias | http://www.gwy2.org/sbs/sbsdrag.html | 21:38 |
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| @snapcount | so I installed base and snort on my gateway machine last night | 23:27 |
| @snapcount | the internet is a dangerous place | 23:27 |
| @snapcount | especially if you have MS-SQL | 23:27 |
| @snapcount | I've had like 90 attempts by some MS-SQL worm | 23:28 |
| crythias | people behind webgui? where? | 23:47 |
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| --- Day changed Thu Mar 02 2006 |
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| @snapcount | YO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 | 00:44 |
| @snapcount | YO | 00:44 |
| crythias | 'lo | 00:44 |
| @snapcount | is a toy with string | 00:44 |
| -!- terje [n=joem@vampira.scare.org] has joined #webgui | 00:44 |
| terje | greetings | 00:45 |
| terje | I'm having some trouble getting webgui going. | 00:45 |
| @snapcount | hi there | 00:45 |
| terje | I think perhaps there's some problems w/ the sourc.e | 00:45 |
| @snapcount | ooh boy | 00:45 |
| @snapcount | what kind of problems | 00:45 |
| crythias | nah. nothing wrong with webgui *stares at ceiling.* must be user error. :-P | 00:45 |
| crythias | j/k | 00:46 |
| crythias | O:-) | 00:46 |
| terje | heh | 00:46 |
| terje | I got the sarcasam | 00:47 |
| terje | sarcasm, even. | 00:47 |
| terje | ok, here goes. | 00:47 |
| terje | [webgui@helo lib]$ perl -c WebGUI.pm | 00:47 |
| terje | Variable "$parenthesis" is not imported at (re_eval 12) line 2. | 00:47 |
| terje | Global symbol "$parenthesis" requires explicit package name at (re_eval 12) line 2. | 00:47 |
| terje | Compilation failed in regexp at WebGUI/Macro.pm line 53. | 00:47 |
| terje | Compilation failed in require at WebGUI.pm line 22. | 00:47 |
| terje | BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at WebGUI.pm line 22. | 00:47 |
| crythias | because you're using 5.5.8 | 00:47 |
| crythias | change our to my | 00:47 |
| terje | is that all? | 00:47 |
| crythias | could be. | 00:47 |
| @snapcount | wow | 00:47 |
| @snapcount | never met someone actually using 5 | 00:47 |
| @snapcount | that's kind of cool | 00:48 |
| crythias | I've only answered this question 3 times in the past week | 00:48 |
| terje | This is perl, v5.8.6 built for i386-linux-thread-multi | 00:48 |
| @snapcount | oh | 00:48 |
| @snapcount | lol | 00:48 |
| @snapcount | guess I should pay more attention | 00:48 |
| crythias | no. you wouldn't have known. | 00:48 |
| crythias | :) | 00:48 |
| terje | so, I'm still not quite clear.. | 00:49 |
| crythias | Macro.pm | 00:49 |
| terje | change 'our' to 'my' where exactly? | 00:49 |
| terje | ah | 00:49 |
| * terje smacks forehead | 00:49 |
| crythias | hee | 00:49 |
| crythias | not only do I know. I can read minds :) | 00:49 |
| @snapcount | ooh boy | 00:49 |
| @snapcount | self mutilation | 00:50 |
| crythias | and you're killing yourself starting on 5.5.8 | 00:50 |
| * snapcount gets some popcorn | 00:50 |
| crythias | just saying. | 00:50 |
| crythias | might want to take a look at my FAQ while you're at it :) http://www.gwy2.org/cgi-bin/fom | 00:50 |
| @snapcount | ya know, the proper thing to do in a situation like this... is to ask our president what to do... | 00:50 |
| @snapcount | !dubya | 00:51 |
| @WRE | "I will have a foreign-handed foreign policy." | 00:51 |
| @snapcount | see, there's the answer | 00:51 |
| @snapcount | you need a foreign handed foreign policy | 00:51 |
| crythias | http://www.gwy2.org/pipermail/webgui/2006-March/000013.html | 00:51 |
| @WRE | <crythias> http://tinyurl.com/o5vmu | 00:51 |
| @snapcount | !bofh | 00:52 |
| @WRE | BOFH Quick-excuse: Sysadmin accidentally destroyed pager with a large hammer. | 00:52 |
| @snapcount | boy, I'm in a mood today | 00:53 |
| crythias | I guess :) | 00:53 |
| * snapcount slaps snapcount around a bit with a large trout | 00:53 |
| crythias | terje :) I hope you aren't offended by my responses :) | 00:53 |
| @snapcount | or mine | 00:53 |
| terje | I'm not | 00:53 |
| @snapcount | you can pipe me to /dev/null | 00:53 |
| terje | but I'm not sure they're correct either. | 00:53 |
| terje | #our $parenthesis = qr /\( # Start with '(', | 00:54 |
| terje | my $parenthesis = qr /\( # Start with '(', | 00:54 |
| terje | is that what your saying needs to be changed? | 00:54 |
| crythias | and restart apache | 00:54 |
| terje | ah | 00:54 |
| terje | but that's not right either. | 00:55 |
| crythias | *gasp* | 00:55 |
| crythias | because now what? | 00:55 |
| terje | heh | 00:55 |
| crythias | different error? | 00:55 |
| crythias | like... Gateway Interface not perl? | 00:55 |
| * snapcount observes Mr Crythias... (Miss Cleo's cousin) | 00:56 |
| terje | well | 00:56 |
| terje | how is restarting apache going ot affect a perl script I'm running from the command line I wonder? | 00:56 |
| terje | effect, even :) | 00:57 |
| crythias | beats me. what effect is it having? | 00:57 |
| crythias | affect is verb, effect is noun. :) | 00:57 |
| terje | heh | 00:57 |
| terje | thanks for the correction. | 00:58 |
| crythias | you were correct in your first instance. | 00:58 |
| terje | I'm simply doing a perl -c on the Macro.pm module | 00:58 |
| crythias | ah. | 00:58 |
| crythias | good call, that. | 00:58 |
| @snapcount | terje 2, crythias 1 | 00:58 |
| crythias | you're doing it with -I /path/to/WebGUI/lib | 00:58 |
| terje | changing our $parenthesis to my $parenthesis doesn't fix the problem | 00:58 |
| terje | negative, I'm not even there yet. | 00:59 |
| crythias | hrm. | 00:59 |
| terje | here's what I'm seeing after the change: | 00:59 |
| terje | [webgui@helo lib]$ perl -c WebGUI/Macro.pm | 00:59 |
| terje | Global symbol "$parenthesis" requires explicit package name at (re_eval 6) line 2. | 00:59 |
| terje | Compilation failed in regexp at WebGUI/Macro.pm line 54. | 00:59 |
| terje | ya dig? | 01:00 |
| crythias | http://www.plainblack.com/downloads/builds/5.5.8/WebGUI/lib/WebGUI/Macro.pm | 01:00 |
| @WRE | <crythias> http://tinyurl.com/rbbwv | 01:00 |
| crythias | that's your original | 01:01 |
| crythias | http://www.plainblack.com/downloads/builds/6.2.11-gamma/WebGUI/lib/WebGUI/Macro.pm | 01:01 |
| crythias | that's probably close enough to what it should be | 01:01 |
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| @snapcount | Martin! | 01:01 |
| @snapcount | I checked out SQLForm | 01:02 |
| @snapcount | nice job | 01:02 |
| MrHairgrease | thanks | 01:02 |
| @snapcount | JT IMs me, "look at this" | 01:02 |
| terje | hurah[webgui@helo lib]$ perl -c WebGUI.pm | 01:02 |
| terje | WebGUI.pm syntax OK | 01:02 |
| terje | thanks crythias! | 01:02 |
| @snapcount | so I look, and it's your form | 01:02 |
| crythias | my form? | 01:03 |
| @snapcount | then he's like "what do you think" | 01:03 |
| @snapcount | no | 01:03 |
| @snapcount | SQLForm demo | 01:03 |
| @snapcount | so I play | 01:03 |
| @snapcount | and I'm like | 01:03 |
| @snapcount | this fucking rules | 01:03 |
| @snapcount | so he asks, "should we put it in core" | 01:03 |
| @snapcount | and I say, "does the code suck, can we maintain it" | 01:03 |
| @snapcount | and he's like | 01:03 |
| @snapcount | code looks good | 01:03 |
| @snapcount | the rest is history | 01:04 |
| crythias | I can't guarantee 6.2.11 macro.pm is drop-in for 5.5.8 Macro.pm, terje | 01:04 |
| * MrHairgrease remebers sombody stomping his feet on the floor: I want it now! I want it now! | 01:04 |
| crythias | You should diff them just to be sure. | 01:04 |
| @snapcount | hehe | 01:04 |
| MrHairgrease | wtf!?! | 01:04 |
| MrHairgrease | you doubted my code? | 01:04 |
| @snapcount | I doubt everyones code | 01:04 |
| MrHairgrease | you'd better | 01:04 |
| @snapcount | until I see it | 01:04 |
| MrHairgrease | anyway | 01:05 |
| MrHairgrease | a more ego related quetion | 01:05 |
| MrHairgrease | question* | 01:05 |
| MrHairgrease | where's this interview with me? | 01:05 |
| MrHairgrease | I can't find it on wg,org | 01:05 |
| @snapcount | all over half the known world | 01:05 |
| crythias | Yeah, roy, where's the people behind webgui? | 01:05 |
| @snapcount | can you not see it | 01:05 |
| crythias | um ... not | 01:05 |
| @snapcount | uh oh | 01:05 |
| MrHairgrease | not that I'm that curious | 01:05 |
| @snapcount | prolly set to admins | 01:06 |
| @snapcount | shiza | 01:06 |
| MrHairgrease | I know the answers already anyway =) | 01:06 |
| terje | so, I've got what I hope is one last question .. | 01:08 |
| terje | does this command: | 01:08 |
| terje | mysql -e "grant all privileges on WebGUI.* to webgui@localhost identified by 'password'" | 01:08 |
| terje | actually create the account for user webgui in mysql? | 01:08 |
| terje | or does it simply grant access to webgui and I have to create that user account somehow? | 01:09 |
| MrHairgrease | it also creates the account | 01:10 |
| MrHairgrease | well sorta | 01:10 |
| MrHairgrease | what you did should work anyway | 01:10 |
| terje | hmm | 01:12 |
| terje | I can see the webgui user account in mysql.user but still can't login using the stuff I set. | 01:12 |
| terje | werid. | 01:13 |
| MrHairgrease | can you do this: | 01:13 |
| MrHairgrease | mysql -uwebgui -p WebGUI | 01:13 |
| MrHairgrease | If you can log in with that | 01:13 |
| MrHairgrease | the db is configured properly | 01:13 |
| MrHairgrease | also is the tablename correct? | 01:15 |
| MrHairgrease | mysql is case sensitive | 01:15 |
| MrHairgrease | so webgui != WebGUI | 01:15 |
| terje | right, I've figured that out | 01:15 |
| MrHairgrease | ok | 01:15 |
| terje | checking.. | 01:15 |
| terje | ERROR 1044 (42000): Access denied for user 'webgui'@'localhost' to database 'WebGUI' | 01:16 |
| @snapcount | there you are | 01:16 |
| MrHairgrease | hmm | 01:16 |
| @snapcount | thanks for pointing out my boo-boo | 01:16 |
| MrHairgrease | that sucks | 01:16 |
| terje | I'll have to update my pass and see if that helps. | 01:16 |
| MrHairgrease | did you enter your password correctly in the grant clause | 01:16 |
| MrHairgrease | roy | 01:16 |
| terje | well, I thought I did :) | 01:16 |
| MrHairgrease | you don't suck | 01:16 |
| terje | do you know how to update that password? | 01:17 |
| MrHairgrease | just do the grant again | 01:17 |
| terje | oh ok | 01:17 |
| MrHairgrease | that should work | 01:17 |
| MrHairgrease | i think' | 01:17 |
| crythias | if you're in 5.5.8 you'll need to make certain your dbi is uptodate | 01:17 |
| * snapcount enjoys some little caesars pizza | 01:18 |
| @snapcount | mmm cheese Martin | 01:18 |
| crythias | because mysql uses a different password mechanism | 01:18 |
| * MrHairgrease pukes | 01:18 |
| MrHairgrease | yeah sure | 01:18 |
| MrHairgrease | but using the mysql client should work | 01:18 |
| crythias | might need to store under old password | 01:18 |
| MrHairgrease | so if he cannot log in using that | 01:18 |
| MrHairgrease | it's something else | 01:18 |
| terje | ok MrHairgrease, I thin I'm good. | 01:19 |
| terje | thanks! | 01:19 |
| MrHairgrease | np | 01:19 |
| MrHairgrease | roy | 01:19 |
| MrHairgrease | I'm watching myself on the internet | 01:19 |
| MrHairgrease | thank man | 01:19 |
| @snapcount | huh | 01:20 |
| terje | btw, I like the term 'Linuxish' | 01:20 |
| MrHairgrease | yeah | 01:20 |
| MrHairgrease | probably to piss of osx users =) | 01:20 |
| MrHairgrease | roy: the picture | 01:21 |
| @snapcount | yes | 01:21 |
| @snapcount | you're looking at it | 01:21 |
| @snapcount | ? | 01:21 |
| MrHairgrease | of course | 01:21 |
| MrHairgrease | calc narcism | 01:21 |
| @WRE | No calc set for "narcism" | 01:21 |
| MrHairgrease | crap | 01:21 |
| MrHairgrease | no luck this time =) | 01:21 |
| @snapcount | calc urine | 01:21 |
| @WRE | urine = <pb_M-Train> Did you know that all humans can urinate through their navels? | 01:21 |
| MrHairgrease | how can you do that while you're eating | 01:21 |
| @snapcount | I'm done eating now | 01:22 |
| MrHairgrease | matt's wife has an lasting impact on all of us | 01:22 |
| MrHairgrease | i bet you are | 01:22 |
| @snapcount | calc marriage | 01:22 |
| @WRE | marriage = <pbmdawg> my sister just got engaged <crythias> but you're already married... | 01:22 |
| @snapcount | that's the best one ever | 01:22 |
| MrHairgrease | lol | 01:22 |
| MrHairgrease | matt indeed does have all the good ones | 01:23 |
| @snapcount | Martin, isn't it like 3am where you are | 01:27 |
| MrHairgrease | no | 01:27 |
| terje | oh man | 01:27 |
| MrHairgrease | it's about 5 | 01:27 |
| MrHairgrease | j/k | 01:27 |
| @snapcount | in the morning!? | 01:27 |
| MrHairgrease | it's 00:30ish | 01:27 |
| terje | there are so many errors now when I hit it from a web browser | 01:27 |
| terje | I can't believe this thing ever works. | 01:28 |
| @snapcount | what "thing" | 01:28 |
| terje | There's nothing about having writable permissions on different directories in the install file. | 01:28 |
| @snapcount | the only dir that needs +w is uploads | 01:29 |
| MrHairgrease | wg-root/www/uploads | 01:29 |
| terje | WebGUI::Style::process('There is a syntax error in this template. Please correct.') called at /home/webgui/html/WebGUI/lib/WebGUI.pm line 43 | 01:30 |
| @snapcount | what? | 01:30 |
| MrHairgrease | what version are you on? | 01:30 |
| terje | and there's more.. | 01:30 |
| terje | WebGUI::_generatePage('There is a syntax error in this template. Please correct.') called at /home/webgui/html/WebGUI/lib/WebGUI.pm line 167 | 01:30 |
| terje | WebGUI::page('/home/webgui/html/WebGUI', 'WebGUI.conf') called at /home/webgui/html/WebGUI/www/index.pl line 28 | 01:30 |
| terje | Where's the version number? | 01:30 |
| MrHairgrease | did you run wg-root/sbin/testEnvironment.pl | 01:30 |
| MrHairgrease | ? | 01:30 |
| terje | yes, it run's fine. | 01:31 |
| terje | Latest version ........................... You are using 6.1.1 and 6.8.7-gamma is available. | 01:31 |
| @snapcount | at the top of WebGUI.pm | 01:31 |
| @snapcount | whoa | 01:31 |
| terje | is that my problem? | 01:31 |
| @snapcount | holy hell man | 01:31 |
| MrHairgrease | it's kinda ancient | 01:31 |
| @snapcount | hard to say | 01:31 |
| @snapcount | but that's really old | 01:31 |
| MrHairgrease | you should try 6.7.x | 01:32 |
| terje | with a name like -gamma I figured it was not ready for production. | 01:32 |
| @snapcount | if you go past 6.7 you'll need MP2 | 01:32 |
| terje | MP2? | 01:32 |
| terje | oh | 01:32 |
| @snapcount | mod-perl2 | 01:32 |
| terje | mod_perl | 01:32 |
| MrHairgrease | gamma = stable | 01:32 |
| terje | yea, ok, so what version do you recommend then? | 01:32 |
| MrHairgrease | only the api can change | 01:32 |
| terje | i gotcha | 01:32 |
| @snapcount | the latest 6.7 | 01:32 |
| MrHairgrease | what he says | 01:32 |
| terje | cool, thanks for your patience guys. | 01:32 |
| @snapcount | unless you want to reconfigure your environment | 01:33 |
| terje | nah, lemme give that a shot. | 01:33 |
| MrHairgrease | and compile stuff by hand | 01:33 |
| terje | tomorrow! | 01:33 |
| terje | I'm out for now. | 01:33 |
| terje | thanks again. | 01:33 |
| @snapcount | sure thing | 01:33 |
| @snapcount | oy! | 01:33 |
| @snapcount | oy! oy! | 01:33 |
| @snapcount | !seen perlDreamer | 01:34 |
| @snapcount | !lastSeen perlDreamer | 01:34 |
| @snapcount | damn it | 01:34 |
| @snapcount | can't remember cmds for my own bot | 01:34 |
| @snapcount | !lastSpoke perlDreamer | 01:34 |
| * snapcount scratches his head with a stary gaze | 01:35 |
| terje | has the database schema changed since 6.1.1 ? | 01:35 |
| terje | should I just drop it and re-create it? | 01:35 |
| @snapcount | oh yeah | 01:35 |
| MrHairgrease | drop and re-recte | 01:36 |
| terje | werd.. tomorrow then. | 01:36 |
| terje | later. | 01:36 |
| MrHairgrease | !seen perldreamer | 01:37 |
| MrHairgrease | laters | 01:37 |
| @snapcount | my seen script no workie | 01:38 |
| @snapcount | or PEBCAK | 01:38 |
| MrHairgrease | not me | 01:38 |
| @snapcount | !lastSpoke crythias | 01:38 |
| @WRE | crythias last uttered a word on #webgui 20 minutes ago. | 01:38 |
| @snapcount | !last perlDreamer | 01:38 |
| MrHairgrease | I saw crythias do a seen command on matt | 01:38 |
| @snapcount | !lastSeen perlDreamer | 01:39 |
| MrHairgrease | it should be !seen | 01:39 |
| @snapcount | !seen fucker | 01:39 |
| @WRE | snapcount, I don't remember seeing fucker. | 01:39 |
| @snapcount | hey | 01:39 |
| @snapcount | !seen perlDreamer | 01:39 |
| MrHairgrease | !seen a threeheaded monkey | 01:39 |
| @WRE | MrHairgrease, I don't remember seeing a. | 01:39 |
| MrHairgrease | that's a shame | 01:39 |
| @snapcount | so it works for people that don't exist | 01:39 |
| @snapcount | nice | 01:39 |
| MrHairgrease | !seen pbmdawg | 01:39 |
| @WRE | pbmdawg (n=SysAdmin@CPE-65-31-211-163.kc.res.rr.com) was last seen parting #WebGUI 20 hours, 46 minutes ago stating "{}". | 01:39 |
| @snapcount | oh I know why | 01:40 |
| MrHairgrease | !seen mrhairgrease | 01:40 |
| @WRE | MrHairgrease, go look in a mirror. | 01:40 |
| MrHairgrease | heh | 01:40 |
| @snapcount | haha | 01:40 |
| @snapcount | tis b/c the bot knows you guys | 01:40 |
| * MrHairgrease click on that beautiful picture again | 01:40 |
| @snapcount | it won't track ppl he don't knoweth | 01:40 |
| MrHairgrease | a waste it iseth | 01:40 |
| @snapcount | I'll have to introduce them | 01:41 |
| MrHairgrease | you do that | 01:41 |
| crythias | !seen a_three-toed_sloth | 01:52 |
| MrHairgrease | later guys | 01:52 |
| crythias | I'm ignored by wre | 01:52 |
| crythias | hah | 01:52 |
| MrHairgrease | quit | 01:53 |
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| @snapcount | do you know anything about eggdrop crythias | 01:55 |
| crythias | makes great soup | 01:55 |
| @snapcount | aside from that? | 01:55 |
| crythias | sorry. no. :( At last you have come upon the limits of my knowledge :) | 01:56 |
| @snapcount | oh | 01:56 |
| @snapcount | you should read up on it | 01:58 |
| @snapcount | I'll give you access to the party line | 01:59 |
| @snapcount | give you more privs | 01:59 |
| @snapcount | fun stuff | 01:59 |
| crythias | heh $7 alcy free beers | 02:05 |
| @snapcount | I found that funny as well | 02:10 |
| crythias | SideBy Google is my new fried. | 02:19 |
| crythias | friend. | 02:19 |
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| nbcccor1 | hey, do any of you have any experience running Jabber or any other IM server? | 16:50 |
| @snapcount | I logged into a jabber server yesterday | 16:54 |
| @snapcount | does that count? | 16:54 |
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| nbcccor2 | not really. | 17:27 |
| @snapcount | I figured | 17:27 |
| nbcccor2 | is my name showing as nbcccor2? | 17:27 |
| @snapcount | yep | 17:27 |
| @snapcount | <-- look here | 17:27 |
| @snapcount | =) | 17:27 |
| nbcccor2 | it seems that gaim has some form of "undocumented learning opportunity". | 17:28 |
| nbcccor2 | because it increments that number when I re-open the chat window. | 17:28 |
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| nbcccor2 | my name should be nbcccorp | 17:28 |
| @snapcount | can you issue commands? | 17:29 |
| @snapcount | ie /stuff | 17:29 |
| nbcccor2 | yeah but nobody listens. | 17:29 |
| @snapcount | try /nick dr_evil | 17:29 |
| -!- snapcount is now known as osama | 17:30 |
| -!- nbcccor2 is now known as dr_evi1 | 17:30 |
| dr_evi1 | wow | 17:30 |
| dr_evi1 | it's changing the last char to a number | 17:30 |
| -!- osama is now known as dumb3y | 17:30 |
| -!- dr_evi1 is now known as abcdef | 17:30 |
| -!- dumb3y is now known as snapcount | 17:30 |
| -!- abcdef is now known as nbcccor1 | 17:30 |
| @snapcount | that's weird | 17:31 |
| nbcccor1 | I agree | 17:31 |
| @snapcount | I have 0 bytes of knowledge re: gaim | 17:31 |
| @snapcount | not even a bit | 17:31 |
| * snapcount slaps knee | 17:31 |
| nbcccor1 | hee | 17:32 |
| @snapcount | grep snapcount > /dev/null 2>/dev/null | 17:32 |
| nbcccor1 | and to think, other people actually PAY for comedy | 17:32 |
| @snapcount | don't forget the 2 | 17:33 |
| @snapcount | most of my output goes to STDERR | 17:33 |
| nbcccor1 | oh... so your married. | 17:33 |
| @snapcount | no | 17:33 |
| @snapcount | but that's funny | 17:33 |
| @snapcount | lol | 17:33 |
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| terje | hi guys, I'm back. | 19:05 |
| terje | having much success with the later version. | 19:05 |
| terje | I think I'm having trouble getting my dsn right in the config file. | 19:06 |
| terje | does this look right: dsn = DBI:mysql:host=localhost | 19:06 |
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| terje | eh, that's not what I meant. | 19:08 |
| terje | ok, so I have the DSN right I think.. | 19:11 |
| terje | but I'm getting this error: | 19:11 |
| terje | Can't connect to data source , no database driver specified and DBI_DSN env var not set at /home/webgui/html/WebGUI/lib/WebGUI/Session.pm line 313 | 19:12 |
| terje | from my browser.. | 19:12 |
| terje | any ideas? | 19:12 |
| crythias | yeah. check preload.perl | 19:12 |
| terje | cool, thanks. | 19:12 |
| crythias | make sure it knows data dir of webgui | 19:12 |
| crythias | Matt! | 19:22 |
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| terje | ok | 19:34 |
| terje | that was an issue.. | 19:34 |
| terje | and I've fixed it.. and restart apache.. same error msg. | 19:35 |
| terje | when apache starts it tells me it's loading WebGUI and the correct config file, etc. | 19:35 |
| terje | not sure where to check next. | 19:35 |
| crythias | like I'm telling someone else, you're going to absolutely hate yourself when 7 comes out. | 19:36 |
| terje | lol | 19:37 |
| crythias | because all this problem with 5.5.8... you're going to have to go through about 5 upgrades to get to 7. | 19:37 |
| terje | I consider myself a pretty savy linux admin | 19:37 |
| terje | dude, I'll just reinstall from scratch. | 19:37 |
| crythias | hee | 19:37 |
| crythias | That's funny. | 19:37 |
| terje | that's just how I roll. | 19:38 |
| terje | =) | 19:38 |
| terje | so any more suggestions as to the cause and solution to, my problem? | 19:38 |
| terje | brb, need coffee. | 19:38 |
| crythias | if you can use mysql -u user -p password database and connect with the values in your webgui.conf... | 19:39 |
| crythias | that helps. | 19:40 |
| crythias | but I'm reasonably certain that your problem is related to DBI-mysql not matching mysql 4.1+ | 19:40 |
| terje | I can connect using mysql -u ... database | 19:44 |
| terje | let's check the DBI-mysql version, thanks. | 19:44 |
| terje | is there a really simply test.pl I can do to see if that's the issue? | 19:50 |
| terje | hmm.. | 20:11 |
| terje | well I have a test script that uses DBI and I can connect to the WebGUI DB just fine. | 20:12 |
| * terje scratches head | 20:12 |
| terje | do I need to modify this in www/index.pl | 20:19 |
| terje | $configFile = "WebGUI.conf"; | 20:19 |
| terje | to match the config file I created? | 20:19 |
| pbmdawg | yes | 20:20 |
| terje | ok, I'm pretty close now. | 20:37 |
| terje | =) | 20:37 |
| terje | dang man | 20:45 |
| terje | so close yet so far. | 20:45 |
| terje | I know I'm being needy | 20:46 |
| terje | here's what I'm getting now.. | 20:46 |
| terje | if I perl www/index.pl - works great | 20:46 |
| terje | if I | 20:46 |
| terje | [webgui@helo etc]$ GET http://webgui/WebGUI/www/index.pl | 20:46 |
| terje | 500 Server closed connection without sending any data back | 20:46 |
| terje | and the error in my log file is | 20:46 |
| terje | failed to resolve handler WebGUI | 20:46 |
| terje | I've checked my virtual host container and it seems to match the install document's instructions. | 20:47 |
| pbmdawg | which install document are you using | 20:54 |
| terje | http://www.plainblack.com/installing_webgui | 20:54 |
| @WRE | <terje> http://tinyurl.com/4baaa | 20:54 |
| terje | I think it's got something to do w/ PerlInitHandler WebGUI | 20:56 |
| pbmdawg | yeah. | 20:57 |
| pbmdawg | in your preload.perl | 20:57 |
| pbmdawg | does it use the path that WebGUI.pm is in? | 20:58 |
| terje | I believe so | 20:59 |
| terje | it's set to | 20:59 |
| terje | $webguiRoot = "/home/webgui/html/WebGUI"; | 20:59 |
| pbmdawg | but does it "use" that path | 20:59 |
| pbmdawg | err | 20:59 |
| terje | shoudl that be /home/webgui/html/WebGUI/lib ? | 20:59 |
| pbmdawg | possibly | 20:59 |
| pbmdawg | I don't know where you put your lib files | 21:00 |
| terje | ok | 21:00 |
| pbmdawg | wait | 21:00 |
| pbmdawg | no | 21:00 |
| pbmdawg | what are the files/dirs under /home/webgui/html/ | 21:00 |
| terje | just WebGUI | 21:00 |
| pbmdawg | What's under that dir | 21:01 |
| terje | docs etc lib sbin test.pl www | 21:01 |
| pbmdawg | ok | 21:01 |
| pbmdawg | in your apache.conf | 21:01 |
| pbmdawg | PerlRequire /data/WebGUI/sbin/preload.perl | 21:01 |
| pbmdawg | do you have that above your vhost? | 21:01 |
| terje | [webgui@helo WebGUI]$ grep PerlRequire /etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf | 21:02 |
| terje | PerlRequire /home/webgui/html/WebGUI/sbin/preload.perl | 21:02 |
| pbmdawg | and it's above the vhost? | 21:02 |
| pbmdawg | above the virtual host in the conf file, I mean | 21:07 |
| pbmdawg | and what is PerlSetVar WebguiRoot set to | 21:08 |
| terje | actually it's not. | 21:12 |
| terje | that is, it's not in the vhost container | 21:12 |
| terje | but the instructions don't say to put one in there. | 21:12 |
| pbmdawg | I was asking it if was above the vhost, not in it | 21:12 |
| terje | oh | 21:12 |
| terje | yes, it's above the vhost | 21:12 |
| terje | way above the vhost though | 21:13 |
| terje | near the load module section | 21:13 |
| terje | I'll move it down. | 21:13 |
| pbmdawg | what about the PerlSetVar | 21:13 |
| terje | PerlSetVar is set to the name of my config file in etc/ | 21:14 |
| pbmdawg | that's in the vhost, right? | 21:14 |
| pbmdawg | I mean the PerlSetVar WebguiRoot | 21:14 |
| terje | yes | 21:15 |
| pbmdawg | what's WebguiRoot set to (above the vhost) | 21:15 |
| terje | PerlSetVar WebguiRoot /home/webgui/html/WebGUI | 21:16 |
| pbmdawg | hrm | 21:16 |
| pbmdawg | Apache can't find WebGUI.pm | 21:27 |
| pbmdawg | but it should be able to find it if preload.perl is being loaded successfully | 21:28 |
| pbmdawg | this is 6.8.7, right? | 21:28 |
| @snapcount | wow | 21:55 |
| @snapcount | looks like you guys are having a blast | 21:55 |
| @snapcount | I love it when clients cancel login support requests | 21:57 |
| @snapcount | it's like an early birthday present | 21:57 |
| crythias | can't use installing_webgui for 558 | 22:37 |
| crythias | read the docs in docs | 22:37 |
| @snapcount | my god, I can't believe it | 22:43 |
| pbmdawg | ? | 22:43 |
| @snapcount | I actually have time to write code now! | 22:43 |
| @snapcount | yipee | 22:43 |
| * snapcount switches back to head | 22:43 |
| @snapcount | someone cue up the KnightRider theme song | 22:44 |
| @snapcount | "hello, michael" | 22:44 |
| crythias | ... a man who does not exist. | 22:44 |
| @snapcount | I never did get the physics behind him driving the car onto the semi | 22:45 |
| @snapcount | but I guess they are both going about the same speed | 22:45 |
| @snapcount | for some reason it would seem to me that upon entry into the trailer the do vectors would combine and he would drive into the cab at 60mph | 22:47 |
| @snapcount | s/do/two | 22:47 |
| crythias | http://web.archive.org/web/20050401071703/http://www.plainblack.com/installing_webgui | 22:47 |
| @WRE | <crythias> http://tinyurl.com/rcbyt | 22:47 |
| pbmdawg | no | 22:47 |
| crythias | what? | 22:47 |
| @snapcount | maybe | 22:47 |
| @snapcount | yes | 22:48 |
| @snapcount | sometimes | 22:48 |
| crythias | perhaps | 22:48 |
| @snapcount | possibly | 22:48 |
| @snapcount | pbmdawg: what are you no'ing about | 22:48 |
| pbmdawg | as long as the firebird is rear wheel drive, he can drive up the semi ramp; he just has to put the car out of gear before the rear wheels touch the ramp | 22:48 |
| * crythias gazes into the 8 ball: 8-ball: Um. Why bother asking me? I'm not sentient. | 22:48 |
| @snapcount | yes, but if the tires hit the ramp | 22:49 |
| @snapcount | I am correct? | 22:49 |
| pbmdawg | no | 22:49 |
| crythias | front wheel drive shouldn't be a problem. | 22:49 |
| crythias | not if brakes function, anyway. | 22:50 |
| @snapcount | 60 -> 0 in 52 ft | 22:50 |
| @snapcount | good breaks | 22:50 |
| @snapcount | and that's a big trailer | 22:50 |
| @snapcount | and a perfect reaction time | 22:50 |
| @snapcount | I say he parks it in the cab | 22:50 |
| crythias | While rear wheels are on the ground, car moves at car rate or drag rate. | 22:51 |
| crythias | vectors are in the same direction, anyway. | 22:51 |
| @snapcount | ok | 22:52 |
| @snapcount | so riddle me this | 22:52 |
| @snapcount | you drop a baseball into a pitching machine | 22:52 |
| @snapcount | what's the difference | 22:52 |
| crythias | acceleration | 22:52 |
| @snapcount | ok | 22:52 |
| @snapcount | so put the pitching machine in a truck | 22:52 |
| pbmdawg | he's not going from 60 to 0 | 22:52 |
| pbmdawg | he's going from 60 to 55 | 22:52 |
| pbmdawg | if the truck is at 55 | 22:53 |
| @snapcount | good call | 22:53 |
| pbmdawg | only the wheels have to slow down their rotation. | 22:53 |
| pbmdawg | which is why he must push in the clutch | 22:53 |
| crythias | http://www.madsci.org/posts/archives/dec96/849218944.Ph.r.html | 22:53 |
| pbmdawg | or else break his transmission | 22:53 |
| @WRE | <crythias> http://tinyurl.com/ockqu | 22:53 |
| @snapcount | we need to do an experiment | 22:53 |
| @snapcount | sounds like a job for the myth busters! | 22:53 |
| pbmdawg | that post is totally wrong | 22:54 |
| crythias | because? | 22:56 |
| crythias | http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/browse_frm/thread/fa4309fe4d736015/a06b000140c520ee?tvc=1&q=knight+rider+car+semi&hl=en#a06b000140c520ee | 22:57 |
| @snapcount | sounds right to me | 22:57 |
| @WRE | <crythias> http://tinyurl.com/mdte2 | 22:57 |
| crythias | the car is going 5 mph faster than the semi relative to road | 22:58 |
| pbmdawg | the wheels have to slow down from 60mph to 5mph | 22:58 |
| pbmdawg | but that happens all the time, with good brakes. | 22:58 |
| pbmdawg | you can easily lock your tires while travelling at 60 | 22:59 |
| pbmdawg | if you don't have ABS | 22:59 |
| pbmdawg | so that's not an issue | 22:59 |
| @snapcount | but you have 50 ft | 22:59 |
| @snapcount | tops | 22:59 |
| pbmdawg | what is an issue is if the car has *enough* inertia to get up the ramp | 22:59 |
| @snapcount | but relative to the road matters not | 23:00 |
| @snapcount | once the car is traveling 50 inside the semi | 23:00 |
| @snapcount | then it's car relative to semi | 23:01 |
| * snapcount phones Adam Savage | 23:01 |
| @snapcount | "we need a semi and knight rider... yes, we need them now" | 23:01 |
| @snapcount | that would be a good episode | 23:02 |
| pbmdawg | actually the 2nd half of that post is correct | 23:03 |
| crythias | KNIGHT INDUSTRIES TWO THOUSAND | 23:03 |
| crythias | ------------------------------ | 23:03 |
| crythias | VEHICLE TYPE: Front engine, rear wheel drive, two | 23:03 |
| crythias | passenger, two door coupe | 23:03 |
| crythias | from official faq | 23:03 |
| * pbmdawg gets back to work | 23:04 |
| * pbmdawg excuses himself to barf | 23:10 |
| * snapcount fires up vmare and dreams of 7.0 | 23:14 |
| pbmdawg | I'm almost done with my vmware appliance: WebGUIdev | 23:15 |
| @snapcount | excelllent | 23:15 |
| @snapcount | what is a vmware appliance? | 23:15 |
| pbmdawg | 330MB compressed | 23:15 |
| @snapcount | gimmie a link | 23:15 |
| pbmdawg | http://www.vmware.com/vmtn/appliances/challenge/ | 23:15 |
| @WRE | <pbmdawg> http://tinyurl.com/qmd3g | 23:15 |
| @snapcount | hey you guys want to hear a joke | 23:15 |
| @snapcount | why are redneck murders so hard to solve? | 23:16 |
| @snapcount | because there are usually no teeth and all the dna is the same | 23:16 |
| * snapcount slaps his knee and chuckles | 23:16 |
| pbmdawg | I'm also making a firewall appliance and an email filtering appliance | 23:17 |
| crythias | Knight Rider, a shadowy flight into the dangerous world of a man who does not exist. Michael Knight, a young loner on a crusade to champion the cause of the innocent, the helpless, the powerless in a world of criminals who operate above the law. | 23:30 |
| @snapcount | don't forget the cousin of knight rider | 23:31 |
| @snapcount | and possibly an even better show | 23:31 |
| @snapcount | same time period | 23:31 |
| @snapcount | any guesses? | 23:31 |
| pbmdawg | voltron? | 23:31 |
| crythias | street hawk | 23:32 |
| pbmdawg | Airwolf | 23:32 |
| @snapcount | ding ding ding | 23:32 |
| @snapcount | Airwolf was the shiznet | 23:32 |
| crythias | awe | 23:32 |
| crythias | Street Hawk was cool | 23:32 |
| @snapcount | voltron was also a good guess | 23:32 |
| crythias | A-Team | 23:32 |
| @snapcount | yes | 23:32 |
| crythias | Blue Thunder | 23:33 |
| @snapcount | you need to leave now | 23:33 |
| pbmdawg | Matlock | 23:33 |
| crythias | Powers of Matthew Star | 23:33 |
| crythias | rr | 23:33 |
| pbmdawg | Miami Vice | 23:33 |
| crythias | Starman | 23:33 |
| @snapcount | ooh ooh | 23:33 |
| pbmdawg | Magnum PI | 23:33 |
| @snapcount | speaking of rr | 23:33 |
| @snapcount | we're getting bumped up tonight | 23:33 |
| crythias | The Greatest American Hero | 23:33 |
| @snapcount | more speed | 23:33 |
| pbmdawg | ? | 23:34 |
| @snapcount | if I pay them $$ I can get 10Mbps | 23:34 |
| pbmdawg | heh | 23:34 |
| @snapcount | everyone is getting 7Mbps as the std package | 23:34 |
| * pbmdawg has GigE metropolitan-area-network connection | 23:34 |
| pbmdawg | (in his dreams) | 23:34 |
| @snapcount | shit... I think my dog is on catnip again | 23:35 |
| * pbmdawg runs off to import some phone extensions. | 23:35 |
| * crythias sits on his OC48 pipe. awe, yeah. | 23:35 |
| @snapcount | that's a big pipe | 23:35 |
| @snapcount | my sb server had oc48 | 23:35 |
| crythias | smoke em if you got em | 23:35 |
| @snapcount | It's gone as of today | 23:35 |
| @snapcount | sniffle | 23:36 |
| pbmdawg | mine is live for another few weeks. | 23:36 |
| pbmdawg | my 1 remaining out of the 4, I mean. | 23:37 |
| crythias | snapcount's KR problem has the car going 120mph.. the other views are that KR stalls | 23:37 |
| pbmdawg | My view is that KR stalls or the transmission breaks; one of those :) | 23:37 |
| @snapcount | yes but that is due to limitations of the carr | 23:37 |
| @snapcount | if the car could take it, caterus parebus, the semi-drive would have a firebird up his ass asking for Micahael | 23:38 |
| crythias | Manual transmission is great: drop clutch. | 23:38 |
| crythias | ok. what if instead there was a wench pulling the car up? | 23:39 |
| crythias | not that this is the case.. | 23:40 |
| @snapcount | that would be fine | 23:40 |
| crythias | how fast would the wench be pulling the car? | 23:40 |
| @snapcount | relative to? | 23:40 |
| crythias | the ground | 23:40 |
| pbmdawg | yeah, I think that realistically, it would need something to pull it up, unless he approaches the semi in 2nd gear, but puts it in gear as soon as the rear wheels slow down to carVsRamp speed | 23:41 |
| @snapcount | wench speed + semi speed | 23:41 |
| @snapcount | and as soon as the car is on semi entirely | 23:41 |
| @snapcount | just the wench speed | 23:42 |
| crythias | what's the difference between wench pulling and car driving? | 23:42 |
| @snapcount | the wench is attached to the truck | 23:42 |
| pbmdawg | BWAHAHA | 23:42 |
| pbmdawg | calc wench a young girl | 23:42 |
| pbmdawg | calc winch a motorized cable-puller | 23:42 |
| crythias | Depends on your characterization of Bonnie, I guess :) | 23:42 |
| pbmdawg | calc wench | 23:43 |
| @WRE | wench = a young girl | 23:43 |
| crythias | hee | 23:43 |
| crythias | oops. | 23:44 |
| crythias | btw. gotta go. Be for my son's birthday | 23:44 |
| @snapcount | did you guys hear the one about the pirate who walked into the bar with a steering wheel sticking out of his crotch? | 23:44 |
| pbmdawg | he needed someone to turn hiim on? | 23:44 |
| @snapcount | bartender: wtf is that? a steering wheel? | 23:44 |
| crythias | on Robot Chicken. | 23:44 |
| @snapcount | pirate: yarrr, tis drivin' me nuts | 23:45 |
| crythias | What does Soylent Green taste like? Varies from person to person. | 23:45 |
| crythias | l8rness | 23:47 |
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| @snapcount | whoa | 23:48 |
| @snapcount | all of the admin bars in head are empty | 23:48 |
| --- Day changed Fri Mar 03 2006 |
| pbmdawg | /Roy empties the bars | 00:13 |
| @snapcount | heh | 00:14 |
| @snapcount | JT forgot to commit the new template | 00:15 |
| @snapcount | hey I got this vmware img from you | 00:15 |
| @snapcount | if you run setenvironment in /data/wre/etc | 00:15 |
| @snapcount | and try to use svn | 00:15 |
| @snapcount | does it puke? | 00:15 |
| pbmdawg | huh | 00:15 |
| @snapcount | on your cent-os vmware image | 00:16 |
| pbmdawg | I didn't give you an image | 00:16 |
| pbmdawg | you made it | 00:16 |
| @snapcount | no I didn't | 00:16 |
| @snapcount | I got it from you at JT's | 00:16 |
| @snapcount | I copied it from your computer | 00:16 |
| pbmdawg | I didn't think so | 00:16 |
| pbmdawg | it uses my passwords | 00:17 |
| pbmdawg | and I wouldn't have givne you my passwords | 00:17 |
| @snapcount | maybe it's jt's image | 00:17 |
| @snapcount | cuz it's using pb passwords | 00:17 |
| @snapcount | anyways | 00:17 |
| @snapcount | try running /data/wre/sbin/setenvironment | 00:17 |
| @snapcount | then using svn | 00:17 |
| @snapcount | it's fucking annoying b/c i have to open a new shell that's not using wre env vars to use svn | 00:18 |
| @snapcount | linkin park is so great | 00:19 |
| @snapcount | dedede | 00:26 |
| @snapcount | ...I'm in love wit a strippa | 00:26 |
| @snapcount | drop it low | 00:26 |
| terje | eh, I'm back again | 00:58 |
| terje | <pbmdawg> but it should be able to find it if preload.perl is being loaded successfully | 00:59 |
| terje | yes, preload.perl is being found correctly | 00:59 |
| terje | and it's able to load WebGUI.pm | 00:59 |
| terje | [webgui@helo WebGUI]$ perl -c sbin/preload.perl | 01:00 |
| terje | sbin/preload.perl syntax OK | 01:00 |
| terje | so if anyone has any ideas, I'm all ears. | 01:00 |
| terje | I'll keep fiddling w/ it. | 01:00 |
| @snapcount | http://www.local6.com/news/7543710/detail.html | 01:00 |
| @WRE | <snapcount> http://tinyurl.com/gp7ez | 01:00 |
| pbmdawg | terje | 01:01 |
| terje | yo | 01:01 |
| pbmdawg | you cannot use those intall instructions you are using with webgui 5.5.8 | 01:01 |
| pbmdawg | those are for 6.8+ | 01:01 |
| terje | no, I'm not using 5.5.8 | 01:01 |
| pbmdawg | oh; what version | 01:01 |
| terje | I'm using 6.7-gammaa | 01:01 |
| pbmdawg | can't use those install instructions with 6.7 | 01:01 |
| terje | oh really? | 01:02 |
| pbmdawg | yes really | 01:02 |
| terje | the install.txt file says to use those.. | 01:02 |
| terje | What is the current stable version? | 01:02 |
| pbmdawg | 6.8.7 | 01:02 |
| terje | alrighty. | 01:03 |
| terje | I'm starting over with that src. | 01:03 |
| terje | thanks. | 01:03 |
| pbmdawg | you don't need to start over | 01:03 |
| pbmdawg | just delete the /WebGUI dir and copy 6.8.7 there | 01:03 |
| pbmdawg | the rest of your setup is fine | 01:03 |
| pbmdawg | you don't need index.pl in 6.8, btw' | 01:04 |
| terje | ok | 01:04 |
| pbmdawg | then of course load the new create.sql | 01:07 |
| terje | k | 01:08 |
| terje | this is going much more smoothly :P | 01:13 |
| @snapcount | mmm smoothies | 01:15 |
| pbmdawg | well I either found a bug in Data::Dumper or something else is seriously wrong | 01:17 |
| pbmdawg | $VAR1 = [ | 01:17 |
| pbmdawg | 'userId', | 01:17 |
| pbmdawg | ' 'internalExtension | 01:17 |
| pbmdawg | ]; | 01:17 |
| @snapcount | heh | 01:18 |
| pbmdawg | but the bad part is | 01:18 |
| pbmdawg | foreach (@$VAR1) { print $_ } | 01:18 |
| pbmdawg | only returns 'userId' | 01:18 |
| @snapcount | does it do if you use something besides the default var | 01:19 |
| pbmdawg | same | 01:19 |
| @snapcount | foreach my $var (@$VAR1) { print $var } | 01:19 |
| pbmdawg | same | 01:19 |
| @snapcount | what is $VAR1 | 01:20 |
| @snapcount | hash ref | 01:20 |
| pbmdawg | array ref | 01:20 |
| @snapcount | with one element | 01:20 |
| pbmdawg | 2 | 01:20 |
| @snapcount | what are the elements, scalars? | 01:20 |
| pbmdawg | yes | 01:20 |
| pbmdawg | supposed to be userId and internalExtension | 01:20 |
| @snapcount | that's a pretty simple structure | 01:20 |
| pbmdawg | you'd think. | 01:21 |
| @snapcount | so dumper is reporting data that doesn't exist in the array? | 01:21 |
| pbmdawg | dumper is reporting data that is supposed to exist | 01:21 |
| pbmdawg | but that doesn't exist when I do foreach | 01:21 |
| pbmdawg | but dumper has that apostrophe in a weird place | 01:22 |
| @snapcount | and why is that a data dumper problem? | 01:22 |
| @snapcount | ahh | 01:22 |
| @snapcount | I see that now | 01:22 |
| @snapcount | I bet your structure is fucked up | 01:22 |
| @snapcount | how is that array ref built | 01:22 |
| pbmdawg | badly/wrongly, probably. | 01:23 |
| @snapcount | thats a lot of *ly's | 01:23 |
| @snapcount | !bash | 01:23 |
| @WRE | |bash 76905| <jjwalker> he was right, our mom is a weirdo...I went to go play laser tag, and I didn't tell her where I was going...and when I walked in just now she fucking assaulted my ass...with fists | 01:23 |
| @WRE | |bash 76905| <jjwalker> then she threw a book at me 0_o | 01:23 |
| @WRE | |bash 76905| <_seb_> damn man she anally fisted you? | 01:23 |
| @WRE | |bash 76905| <_seb_> that sucks | 01:23 |
| @WRE | |bash 76905| <_seb_> must have hurt | 01:23 |
| @snapcount | that's rather disturbing | 01:24 |
| @snapcount | dude | 01:25 |
| @snapcount | someone broke my shiznet | 01:25 |
| @snapcount | Couldn't call method addToCart on asset for url: home/untitled Root cause: Can't locate object method "user" via package "Asset_EventManagementSystem" (perhaps you forgot to load "Asset_EventManagementSystem"?) at /data/WebGUI/lib/WebGUI/International.pm line 78. | 01:25 |
| @snapcount | what. the. hell. | 01:25 |
| * snapcount get's out the light saber | 01:25 |
| pbmdawg | hum | 01:26 |
| pbmdawg | that might be a bug in perl | 01:26 |
| pbmdawg | I changed it to use push | 01:26 |
| pbmdawg | and it started working correctly | 01:26 |
| @snapcount | ah ssss push it, push it real good | 01:26 |
| pbmdawg | mruhaha. it is a bug in perl | 01:27 |
| @snapcount | are you using version 2 | 01:27 |
| @snapcount | I need to get some new 'shoes' for my ride | 01:27 |
| pbmdawg | if you put a scalar with an LF as the last char of the scalar into an array, that item in the array is ignored and read incorrectly. | 01:28 |
| @snapcount | did you write a simple script to dup it | 01:28 |
| @snapcount | outside of wg | 01:28 |
| pbmdawg | no but I can | 01:28 |
| @snapcount | I would | 01:28 |
| pbmdawg | this is a script that's not in wg | 01:29 |
| @snapcount | the simple part is the important part | 01:29 |
| pbmdawg | this stuff happens before a wg session is even created. | 01:29 |
| @snapcount | no perl developer is going to look into this unless you can dup it with like two lines of code | 01:30 |
| pbmdawg | I know | 01:30 |
| @snapcount | that would be pretty sweet if you found a bug in perl | 01:30 |
| @snapcount | pbmdawg++ | 01:30 |
| pbmdawg | buffer overflow here we come | 01:31 |
| terje | so I've installed mod_perl as an RPM on FC4 but the perl modules are asking for it's src.. and apache's src code. | 01:31 |
| pbmdawg | roy can you help terje | 01:31 |
| terje | this has been a rough exercise for poor terje. | 01:31 |
| @snapcount | why don't you just use the wre | 01:31 |
| @snapcount | it's much easier | 01:31 |
| terje | I guess because I don't know what that is. | 01:31 |
| terje | :( | 01:31 |
| @snapcount | all of this stuff is already compiled for you | 01:31 |
| @snapcount | oh | 01:32 |
| @snapcount | shiza | 01:32 |
| @snapcount | calc wre | 01:32 |
| @WRE | wre = WebGUI Runtime Environment | 01:32 |
| @snapcount | it has all this crap pre-compiled and configured | 01:32 |
| terje | lordy | 01:32 |
| @snapcount | it's on sf.net | 01:32 |
| * terje googles WebGUI Runtime Environment | 01:32 |
| terje | is there an FC4 version? | 01:32 |
| @snapcount | www.sf.net/projects/pbwebgui | 01:32 |
| @snapcount | there's an fc version that will get you close enough | 01:33 |
| @snapcount | you want 0.6.x | 01:33 |
| @snapcount | for WG versions 6.8.+ | 01:33 |
| @snapcount | download the source | 01:33 |
| @snapcount | and the prereqs tarball | 01:33 |
| @snapcount | actually | 01:33 |
| @snapcount | you don't even need those | 01:34 |
| @snapcount | that's only if you want to compile yourself | 01:34 |
| @snapcount | sigh | 01:34 |
| @snapcount | I'll go look | 01:34 |
| * pbmdawg pokes roy for giving bad advice | 01:34 |
| @snapcount | and stop being lazy | 01:34 |
| terje | http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=51417&package_id=148913 | 01:34 |
| @WRE | <terje> http://tinyurl.com/rtvl4 | 01:34 |
| @snapcount | try the one for rhel4 | 01:35 |
| @snapcount | that should work fine | 01:35 |
| @snapcount | I need to setup an FC server and make a wre binary for it | 01:36 |
| @snapcount | If I could only do it without having to do anything... | 01:37 |
| * snapcount ponders | 01:37 |
| terje | lol | 01:37 |
| terje | use my machine | 01:37 |
| terje | you can install it for me while you're at it. | 01:37 |
| terje | I've been at this 2 days now. | 01:37 |
| @snapcount | heh | 01:37 |
| terje | :( | 01:37 |
| pbmdawg | roy: not a bad idea | 01:37 |
| @snapcount | yeah | 01:37 |
| pbmdawg | I have all the fc4 cds downloaded so I could do it in a vm | 01:37 |
| pbmdawg | but not tonight | 01:37 |
| @snapcount | I'm sure that one would go over great with the HNIC | 01:37 |
| pbmdawg | terje: do you have all the latest patches | 01:38 |
| terje | OS patches? | 01:38 |
| pbmdawg | yeah | 01:39 |
| terje | yes | 01:39 |
| terje | but this system is a mess now | 01:39 |
| pbmdawg | FC4 has been for what, 9 months? | 01:39 |
| pbmdawg | out | 01:39 |
| pbmdawg | 1 year? | 01:39 |
| @snapcount | abort | 01:39 |
| @snapcount | abort | 01:39 |
| terje | I think longer | 01:39 |
| terje | yea, I think I'll reinstall the OS before trying this | 01:40 |
| terje | there's all kinds of perl mods and packages I probably don't need (from webgui 6.1.1) | 01:40 |
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| @snapcount | terje: here's the deal | 01:40 |
| @snapcount | that binary sucketh | 01:40 |
| @snapcount | and won't work on FC4 | 01:40 |
| @snapcount | however | 01:41 |
| @snapcount | I have good news | 01:41 |
| @snapcount | you can compile it all yourself | 01:41 |
| terje | i could use some | 01:41 |
| @snapcount | and it will work fine | 01:41 |
| terje | dude | 01:41 |
| @snapcount | all the shit you need | 01:41 |
| @snapcount | is in the package | 01:41 |
| terje | there's a ridiculous amound of dependancies | 01:41 |
| @snapcount | you just have to build it | 01:41 |
| @snapcount | it's all in there | 01:41 |
| @snapcount | that's the whole point | 01:41 |
| terje | how about you bake an FC4 binary and I install that | 01:41 |
| terje | :) | 01:41 |
| @snapcount | I could do that | 01:42 |
| @snapcount | do you want me to? | 01:42 |
| terje | I would love that. | 01:42 |
| @snapcount | you know what | 01:42 |
| @snapcount | I will | 01:42 |
| terje | hurrah | 01:42 |
| @snapcount | a lot of people have asked | 01:42 |
| @snapcount | it should be there tommorow | 01:42 |
| @snapcount | or late tonight | 01:42 |
| terje | I'm your new friend. | 01:42 |
| @snapcount | heh | 01:42 |
| terje | ok, I'll wait for it. | 01:42 |
| terje | I have some much other stuff to do now. | 01:42 |
| terje | thanks man. | 01:42 |
| @snapcount | the checks in the mail ;=) | 01:42 |
| terje | right "no go away terje and never bother us again" | 01:43 |
| @snapcount | nah | 01:43 |
| @snapcount | if you were an idiot maybe | 01:43 |
| @snapcount | then I'd just kick you | 01:43 |
| @snapcount | webgui is a beeotch for even the best sysadmins | 01:43 |
| @snapcount | we're trying to improve on that | 01:43 |
| terje | cool man, well I'd sure love to beta-test the FC4 binary. | 01:44 |
| @snapcount | I'll git 'r done | 01:44 |
| @snapcount | heh | 01:55 |
| @snapcount | I'm downloading these cd's | 01:55 |
| @snapcount | all four at the same time | 01:55 |
| @snapcount | 150Kb/s each | 01:55 |
| @snapcount | not too shabby | 01:55 |
| * terje mixes a martini | 02:05 |
| @snapcount | !dubya | 02:27 |
| @WRE | "Listen, Al Gore is a very tough opponent. He is the incumbent. He represents the incumbency. And a challenger is somebody who generally comes from the pack and wins, if you're going to win. And that's where I'm coming from." | 02:27 |
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| @snapcount | hola | 02:55 |
| @snapcount | coma estas | 02:55 |
| @snapcount | donde esta el bano? el queso es viaja y ongo | 02:55 |
| @snapcount | crythia | 02:56 |
| @snapcount | crythias | 02:56 |
| @snapcount | did I make your screen blink | 02:56 |
| crythias | yeah | 02:56 |
| @snapcount | hah | 02:56 |
| @snapcount | hi | 02:56 |
| crythias | or.. gaim told me you typed my name | 02:56 |
| @snapcount | how are you | 02:56 |
| @snapcount | where is the bathroom | 02:56 |
| @snapcount | the cheese is old and moldy | 02:56 |
| crythias | fine. the cheese is old and... stinky | 02:56 |
| crythias | modly | 02:56 |
| crythias | ok. | 02:56 |
| crythias | moldy | 02:56 |
| @snapcount | encino man | 02:57 |
| crythias | bueno. Me gusta ensenar cosas nuevas | 02:57 |
| crythias | how may I ab^hmuse you? | 02:58 |
| @snapcount | just talkin | 02:58 |
| @snapcount | I didn't need anything | 02:58 |
| crythias | kewl | 02:58 |
| @snapcount | I'm building an FC4 wre | 02:59 |
| @snapcount | binary | 02:59 |
| @snapcount | if it's possible | 02:59 |
| @snapcount | JT has tried with FC3 and FC4 with no luck | 02:59 |
| crythias | I should consider making a FreeBSD binary. | 02:59 |
| @snapcount | yeah what the hell | 02:59 |
| @snapcount | =) | 02:59 |
| crythias | not certain I want to do zip-n-go... | 02:59 |
| @snapcount | pointless | 03:00 |
| crythias | well, | 03:00 |
| @snapcount | we have a windows wre in the works | 03:00 |
| @snapcount | it will be ready in 10^-2 centuries | 03:00 |
| crythias | it'd be webgui.freebsd.tar.gz | 03:00 |
| crythias | ready in a year? | 03:01 |
| crythias | time to take your axatives... it's time for American Idol eliminations. | 03:01 |
| crythias | laxatives. | 03:01 |
| @snapcount | heh | 03:01 |
| @snapcount | forgot you're a math guy | 03:02 |
| @snapcount | most people are like huh? | 03:02 |
| crythias | 10 types of people... those who understand binary, those who don't.. | 03:02 |
| @snapcount | really screw with them 10^-3 centuries | 03:02 |
| @snapcount | exactly | 03:02 |
| crythias | 1.2 months? | 03:02 |
| @snapcount | 1 century = 100 years | 03:03 |
| @snapcount | so .1 centuries | 03:03 |
| crythias | we've established 1^-2=1 year | 03:03 |
| crythias | 10^-2 | 03:03 |
| @snapcount | 365/10 | 03:03 |
| crythias | 12 months/10 | 03:04 |
| @snapcount | 36.5 days | 03:04 |
| @snapcount | or 365*.1 | 03:04 |
| crythias | almost a month | 03:04 |
| @snapcount | more than a month | 03:04 |
| @snapcount | see | 03:04 |
| @snapcount | isn't this fun | 03:04 |
| @snapcount | =) | 03:04 |
| @snapcount | translation | 03:04 |
| @snapcount | it will be done in 36.5 days | 03:04 |
| @snapcount | the cheese is old and moldy | 03:05 |
| crythias | chili con queso... a fromage | 03:10 |
| crythias | with cheese | 03:10 |
| crythias | Waiter, I'll have pie a la mode. Actually, I'd like some ice cream, too. | 03:11 |
| crythias | I think I might submit my SideBy Google to digg | 03:12 |
| crythias | "That's lame. Frames are so last century" | 03:12 |
| crythias | I don't want to host it on my local box | 03:13 |
| @snapcount | heh | 03:14 |
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| pbmdawg | how's it coming terje | 03:36 |
| pbmdawg | have you made an FC4 wre binary for us yet? :) | 03:36 |
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| wouter_procolix | Hoi Grobbebol :-) | 16:02 |
| Grobbebol | Dag meneer Wouter | 16:02 |
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| ian_procolix | hoi wouter_procolix | 16:18 |
| wouter_procolix | hoi ian_procolix | 16:19 |
| ian_procolix | alles goed? | 16:20 |
| ian_procolix | dag marc | 16:20 |
| Grobbebol | dag ian | 16:20 |
| ian_procolix | hallooo | 16:20 |
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| @snapcount | welcome, friends from the Netherlands | 17:32 |
| @snapcount | or is it just martin who is in the netherlands? | 17:32 |
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| @snapcount | crythias! | 17:34 |
| Ian|ProcoliX | colleges | 17:41 |
| Ian|ProcoliX | it is | 17:41 |
| Ian|ProcoliX | mr snapcount | 17:41 |
| Ian|ProcoliX | but martin is in the netherlands aswell :-) | 17:42 |
| @snapcount | so I've decided I like VMWare | 17:52 |
| @snapcount | so much easier than dragging another machine out of the basement | 17:52 |
| Ian|ProcoliX | :P | 17:52 |
| @snapcount | having a damn serverfarm in the house to run all the *nixes | 17:52 |
| Ian|ProcoliX | but less cool | 17:52 |
| @snapcount | yes in the social sense | 17:52 |
| @snapcount | not in the thermodynamic sense | 17:53 |
| @snapcount | hehe | 17:53 |
| Ian|ProcoliX | true =) | 17:53 |
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| @snapcount | so what do you do over at Procolix Ian? | 17:53 |
| Ian|ProcoliX | system and network engineer | 17:53 |
| @snapcount | cool | 17:54 |
| Ian|ProcoliX | i gotta kill the webgui's that take 100% cpu load on our servers ;) | 17:54 |
| @snapcount | I have a great respect for network engineers | 17:54 |
| @snapcount | oh haha | 17:54 |
| Ian|ProcoliX | I have respect for them webgui developers | 17:54 |
| Ian|ProcoliX | hehe | 17:54 |
| @snapcount | I've been learning more about networking | 17:54 |
| @snapcount | I recently got iptables going | 17:54 |
| @snapcount | for my gateway machine at home | 17:54 |
| Ian|ProcoliX | iptables is cool | 17:55 |
| @snapcount | my latest conquest was snort and base | 17:55 |
| Ian|ProcoliX | I dislike snort | 17:55 |
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| @snapcount | so I can see all the script-kiddies and worms trying to violate me | 17:55 |
| Ian|ProcoliX | takes to much cpu load | 17:55 |
| @snapcount | yeah | 17:55 |
| @snapcount | my little gateway server is like "ummf" | 17:55 |
| @snapcount | but it's not like a business or anything | 17:56 |
| Ian|ProcoliX | hehe | 17:56 |
| @snapcount | it's just for my enjoyment and entertainment | 17:56 |
| Ian|ProcoliX | yeah its fun to play around with when it works | 17:56 |
| Ian|ProcoliX | when it doesn't its a pain in the ass | 17:56 |
| @snapcount | true for many things | 17:56 |
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| @snapcount | I'm trying to compile a WRE binary for FC4 right now | 17:57 |
| @snapcount | so far so good | 17:57 |
| Ian|ProcoliX | :P | 17:57 |
| Ian|ProcoliX | we're mostly into gentoo | 17:57 |
| @snapcount | I love gentoo | 17:57 |
| @snapcount | it's just cool | 17:57 |
| Ian|ProcoliX | yep | 17:57 |
| @snapcount | takes like 10 years to install though if you compile everything | 17:58 |
| Ian|ProcoliX | whaha yeah | 17:58 |
| @snapcount | but that's also what makes it cool | 17:58 |
| Ian|ProcoliX | thats true | 17:58 |
| Ian|ProcoliX | well im out | 18:00 |
| Ian|ProcoliX | cu later roy | 18:00 |
| @snapcount | later man | 18:00 |
| @snapcount | nice talking with you | 18:00 |
| Ian|ProcoliX | likewise | 18:00 |
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| -!- crythias [n=gyoung@64.200.2.35] has joined #webgui | 18:50 |
| @snapcount | gerald is coming | 18:50 |
| @snapcount | ah | 18:50 |
| @snapcount | damn it | 18:51 |
| @snapcount | you beat me | 18:51 |
| @snapcount | fc 4 wre | 18:51 |
| @snapcount | so far so good | 18:51 |
| @snapcount | mysql is compiling now | 18:51 |
| crythias | sigh | 18:53 |
| crythias | 6 diggs | 18:53 |
| @snapcount | what does that mean | 18:53 |
| crythias | http://digg.com/software/Mashup_any_WebPage_with_Google_at_the_click_of_a_button | 18:53 |
| @WRE | <crythias> http://tinyurl.com/mfktq | 18:53 |
| crythias | ah, well | 18:55 |
| @snapcount | what does 6 diggs mean though | 18:55 |
| @snapcount | are they like votes | 18:55 |
| crythias | yeah | 18:55 |
| @snapcount | can I vote for it | 18:56 |
| crythias | I "digg" this | 18:56 |
| crythias | if you have an account. | 18:56 |
| @snapcount | haha | 18:56 |
| @snapcount | $$$ | 18:56 |
| @snapcount | ? | 18:56 |
| crythias | Free | 18:56 |
| @snapcount | I'll promote your cause | 18:56 |
| crythias | :) | 18:56 |
| crythias | Thanks | 18:56 |
| -!- snapcount changed the topic of #webgui to: *==Vote for Gerald--* http://tinyurl.com/mfktq | 18:57 |
| @snapcount | maybe we can double your votes | 18:57 |
| crythias | I can digg it you can digg it we can digg it :) | 18:57 |
| @snapcount | how many are required for fame and fortune | 18:57 |
| crythias | hey ... 20 votes in an hourand I cna make it to front page :) | 18:57 |
| @snapcount | we need to gather a militia for this task | 18:58 |
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| -!- mode/#webgui [+o crythias] by WRE | 19:00 |
| -!- pbmdawg [n=SysAdmin@CPE-65-31-211-163.kc.res.rr.com] has joined #webgui | 19:01 |
| @crythias | ahh yeah... 'tis Matt! and welcome to .. here. | 19:02 |
| @snapcount | matt | 19:02 |
| @snapcount | we need your vote | 19:02 |
| @snapcount | do you digg it | 19:03 |
| @snapcount | I just registered | 19:03 |
| * pbmdawg crumples like a skyscraper | 19:03 |
| @crythias | then we'll bum rush digg for WebGUI 7 :) | 19:03 |
| terje | hey snapcount | 19:03 |
| @snapcount | uhh | 19:03 |
| terje | how'd it go last night? | 19:03 |
| @snapcount | my digg didn't get counted | 19:03 |
| terje | =) | 19:03 |
| @snapcount | it's still going | 19:03 |
| @snapcount | looking good so far | 19:04 |
| terje | cool | 19:04 |
| @crythias | did your knees explode or were they hit by missiles? | 19:04 |
| @snapcount | mysql is compiling now | 19:04 |
| terje | I'll re-image this box right now then. | 19:04 |
| @snapcount | I think we're over the hump | 19:04 |
| @crythias | Maybe the planes had to bounce off the ground before landing in you. | 19:04 |
| @snapcount | apache/mp2/apr are the beeotches | 19:04 |
| @snapcount | and they are dizone | 19:05 |
| terje | you said hump.. | 19:05 |
| @crythias | Whatcha gonna do with all that junk.. all that junk in side your hump... | 19:05 |
| @snapcount | heh | 19:05 |
| terje | what we really need is just a WRE linux distro based on FC4 | 19:05 |
| terje | like download and install this ISO | 19:05 |
| @snapcount | matt | 19:05 |
| @snapcount | appliances? | 19:05 |
| pbmdawg | hee. I have it for Debian | 19:05 |
| @crythias | u got me spendin'... spendin all my money on ye. all my time on ye. | 19:06 |
| terje | yea dog | 19:06 |
| pbmdawg | 334MB | 19:06 |
| @snapcount | nice | 19:06 |
| @snapcount | does it work yet | 19:06 |
| pbmdawg | (compressed) | 19:06 |
| pbmdawg | yeah | 19:06 |
| @snapcount | sweet | 19:06 |
| pbmdawg | just not on macs | 19:06 |
| terje | that is sweet. | 19:06 |
| @snapcount | ab results? | 19:06 |
| pbmdawg | b/c there's no vmware player for a mac | 19:06 |
| @crythias | *in whiner mode* "No, not debian! I *must* have it for Ubuntu" | 19:06 |
| @snapcount | does it suck | 19:06 |
| pbmdawg | royally | 19:06 |
| @snapcount | really? | 19:06 |
| pbmdawg | no, hold on, I'll run ab | 19:07 |
| @snapcount | slower than crap eh | 19:07 |
| @snapcount | we need to find someone with a production class machine | 19:07 |
| @snapcount | get the vmware player on it | 19:07 |
| @snapcount | simmer, and let cool | 19:07 |
| pbmdawg | I have Athlon 3000 | 19:07 |
| pbmdawg | 1 GB ram | 19:07 |
| @snapcount | cool | 19:08 |
| pbmdawg | that's what I'm testing it on now | 19:08 |
| @snapcount | now all we have to do is simmer, and let cool | 19:08 |
| pbmdawg | do you want 100 unique visitors | 19:08 |
| pbmdawg | (new sessions created for each) | 19:08 |
| pbmdawg | or 100 of the same user | 19:08 |
| @snapcount | yes | 19:09 |
| pbmdawg | grr | 19:09 |
| @snapcount | I want to hear your smoke detectors go off as the cpu melts | 19:09 |
| pbmdawg | 330KB/s | 19:09 |
| @snapcount | I choose a) alex | 19:09 |
| @snapcount | 100 unique users for 300 | 19:09 |
| pbmdawg | for 100 unique users, 1 concurrent | 19:10 |
| @crythias | 330 :) | 19:10 |
| @snapcount | mysql compiled | 19:11 |
| pbmdawg | 6.8.7 btw | 19:11 |
| @snapcount | onto image magick | 19:11 |
| @snapcount | I'm in love wit a strippa... | 19:12 |
| @snapcount | dededededede | 19:12 |
| @snapcount | drop it low | 19:12 |
| * pbmdawg barfs all over his dog, who looks very dejected and sad as a result. | 19:12 |
| @snapcount | you don't like strippers | 19:12 |
| @crythias | only when I'm painting. | 19:13 |
| pbmdawg | 430 KB/s for -n200 -c5 with a wgSession cookie | 19:14 |
| pbmdawg | that's not bad | 19:14 |
| @snapcount | to do a true test | 19:15 |
| @snapcount | you'd need to run it native on equiv hardware | 19:15 |
| pbmdawg | yeah | 19:15 |
| @snapcount | and see the delta yo | 19:15 |
| pbmdawg | but that beats plainblack.com :P | 19:15 |
| pbmdawg | heh | 19:15 |
| * pbmdawg DOS's plainblack.com | 19:16 |
| @crythias | hee | 19:17 |
| @crythias | wow. | 19:18 |
| @snapcount | mom | 19:19 |
| @snapcount | err | 19:19 |
| @crythias | hee aay | 19:19 |
| @snapcount | .mom | 19:19 |
| @crythias | *mom | 19:19 |
| pbmdawg | WOWMOM | 19:19 |
| @snapcount | oh yeah | 19:19 |
| @snapcount | my period was too low | 19:19 |
| @crythias | I'm glad there's context for that statement. | 19:20 |
| @snapcount | lol | 19:20 |
| @crythias | woot? | 19:21 |
| @snapcount | man... it would be nice to have a dl380 g4 here to do this wre build with | 19:23 |
| @snapcount | 15K scsi drives | 19:23 |
| @crythias | heh | 19:24 |
| pbmdawg | 30K | 19:24 |
| @snapcount | hyperthreaded cpus | 19:24 |
| @snapcount | like 4GB of ram | 19:24 |
| @snapcount | *sigh* | 19:24 |
| @crythias | btw. my wife and I have a joke regarding "Don't end a sentence in a preposition" | 19:24 |
| @crythias | A preposition isn't good to end a sentence with, dammit. | 19:25 |
| @snapcount | like, "honey, do you want to go to bed early tonight, wink wink" | 19:25 |
| @snapcount | none of those | 19:25 |
| @snapcount | oh | 19:25 |
| @snapcount | that's proposition | 19:25 |
| @snapcount | my bad shorty | 19:25 |
| @snapcount | fees | 19:25 |
| @snapcount | I'm segfaulting | 19:25 |
| @snapcount | a;alkjf | 19:25 |
| @snapcount | ahh | 19:25 |
| @snapcount | $self->reboot | 19:26 |
| @snapcount | ==(0* snapcount 1.0.59.64 ready for work --*\ | 19:27 |
| @crythias | heh. So the guy'd been in jail for a year. He was released, then arrested for soliciting a prostitute. The judge said, "what the heck? Don't you know you shouldn't end your sentence with a proposition?" | 19:27 |
| @snapcount | Would you like to play a game? | 19:27 |
| @crythias | Let's play global thermonuclear war. | 19:27 |
| @snapcount | how about a nice game of tic-tac-toe? | 19:27 |
| @snapcount | the only winning move is... not to play | 19:28 |
| @crythias | No. Let's play global thermonuclear war. | 19:28 |
| @crythias | Choose a side. | 19:28 |
| @crythias | Let's play Russian | 19:28 |
| @snapcount | I'll go with pluto | 19:28 |
| @snapcount | the planet, not the dog | 19:28 |
| @crythias | just making sure. | 19:28 |
| * snapcount grabs some popcorn as earth destroys it's self | 19:29 |
| @snapcount | I'll go first | 19:29 |
| @snapcount | you lost moscow | 19:29 |
| @snapcount | I win | 19:29 |
| @snapcount | you sunk my battleship | 19:29 |
| @snapcount | !dubya | 19:30 |
| @WRE | "I mean, there needs to be a wholesale effort against racial profiling, which is illiterate children." | 19:30 |
| @snapcount | lol | 19:30 |
| @snapcount | !quote agthx | 19:30 |
| @WRE | AGTHX -> 32.03 +0.10 / Last Trade Mar 2 / Change +0.31% / Volume N/A / 52 Week Range N/A | 19:31 |
| @snapcount | go baby go | 19:31 |
| @snapcount | !quote smcwx | 19:31 |
| @WRE | SMCWX -> 38.54 +0.09 / Last Trade Mar 2 / Change +0.23% / Volume N/A / 52 Week Range N/A | 19:31 |
| pbmdawg | !quote BC | 19:31 |
| @WRE | BC -> 39.13 -0.63 / Last Trade 12:14pm / Change -1.58% / Volume 39.24 / 52 Week Range 39.28 | 19:31 |
| * pbmdawg takes advantage of papajohns.com coupon: 1 large 2 topping for $7.99 | 19:35 |
| @snapcount | bitch | 19:37 |
| @snapcount | I want some papa johns | 19:38 |
| pbmdawg | $7.99 | 19:38 |
| @snapcount | and how do you expect me to come up with that kind of dough | 19:40 |
| * snapcount slaps his knee | 19:41 |
| @snapcount | woo | 19:41 |
| pbmdawg | sell your body | 19:41 |
| pbmdawg | should take 2 nights | 19:41 |
| @snapcount | damn | 19:41 |
| @snapcount | that's not a bad idea | 19:41 |
| @snapcount | I only need one of these kidneys... probably stand to loose a nipple or something | 19:42 |
| pbmdawg | sell most of your liver; it'll grow back | 19:43 |
| @snapcount | true true | 19:43 |
| @snapcount | appendix, gal bladder | 19:44 |
| @snapcount | worthless | 19:44 |
| @snapcount | so I can get rid of those | 19:44 |
| @snapcount | bling bling | 19:46 |
| @snapcount | perlmodules are installing | 19:46 |
| @snapcount | 'got new shoes on da ride... rollin' down 95' | 19:47 |
| -!- chansen [n=chansen@h48n3c1o1099.bredband.skanova.com] has quit ["bbl"] | 20:00 |
| @snapcount | heh | 20:10 |
| @snapcount | time for an experiment | 20:10 |
| @snapcount | startkeylogger | 20:10 |
| @snapcount | stopkeylogger | 20:11 |
| @snapcount | damn | 20:11 |
| @snapcount | http://blog.washingtonpost.com/securityfix/2006/03/keylogger_utterance_spooks_nor.html | 20:12 |
| @WRE | <snapcount> http://tinyurl.com/kgrwh | 20:12 |
| @crythias | startkeylogger | 20:41 |
| @crythias | stopkeylogger | 20:41 |
| @crythias | heh | 20:41 |
| @snapcount | you all passed the test | 20:42 |
| @snapcount | damn | 20:42 |
| @snapcount | libapreq2 barfed | 20:42 |
| @snapcount | figures | 20:42 |
| @snapcount | last thing in the build | 20:42 |
| @crythias | libapreq2 inhales forcefully | 20:43 |
| @snapcount | I'll beat this bitch into submission | 20:43 |
| * snapcount dons his gi and numbchucks | 20:44 |
| @snapcount | ah | 20:44 |
| @snapcount | glue is missing a module | 20:45 |
| @snapcount | anyone want a dougnut? | 20:47 |
| @snapcount | I have cake style with chocolate glaze | 20:47 |
| @crythias | glue! | 20:47 |
| @snapcount | tastes great, less filling | 20:48 |
| @crythias | http://mail.plainblack.com:8000/Lists/webguidev/Message/3218.html?Language= | 20:48 |
| @crythias | Eclair: tastes great, more filling! | 20:49 |
| @snapcount | I'm building glue manually | 20:49 |
| @snapcount | it wanted ModPerl::MM which isn't installed for some reason by wre or cpan via prereqs | 20:50 |
| @snapcount | appears to be compiling ok now | 20:50 |
| @crythias | 1.fm rocks | 20:50 |
| @snapcount | huh? | 20:50 |
| pbmdawg | ECLAIRE.COM is already taken | 20:51 |
| @snapcount | I had a genuis plan | 20:51 |
| @snapcount | I was going to buy sketshooters.com | 20:51 |
| @snapcount | that's what rappers are calling ejaculation now | 20:51 |
| @snapcount | sket | 20:51 |
| @crythias | ohh my beloved ice cream bar! how I love to lick your creamy filling! | 20:51 |
| @snapcount | so I was gonna sell it to some porn site | 20:51 |
| pbmdawg | skeet??????? | 20:51 |
| @snapcount | they spell it | 20:51 |
| @snapcount | sket | 20:52 |
| @snapcount | I looked at some lyrics | 20:52 |
| @snapcount | I bailed on the plan though | 20:52 |
| @crythias | fountains of protein.com | 20:52 |
| @snapcount | lol | 20:52 |
| @crythias | ew | 20:52 |
| @crythias | I think I'm going to be sick. | 20:52 |
| @crythias | whiteprotein.com | 20:53 |
| @crythias | and it's available. | 20:54 |
| @snapcount | check sploogeblower.com | 20:55 |
| @snapcount | rofl | 20:55 |
| @crythias | yes | 20:55 |
| @snapcount | we should alias it to webgui.org | 20:55 |
| pbmdawg | LOLPLATES.COM $8.95*/yr | 20:55 |
| pbmdawg | available | 20:56 |
| @crythias | heh! www.whiteprotein.com => "Welcome to plainblack.com" | 20:56 |
| pbmdawg | sploogeblower.com available | 20:56 |
| @crythias | sketshooter.com available | 20:56 |
| @snapcount | what does it mean when a test returns a result of dubious | 20:57 |
| pbmdawg | awwww milfkiller.com already taken. | 20:57 |
| @snapcount | how about | 20:57 |
| @snapcount | soccermom.com | 20:57 |
| @snapcount | has a nice ring to it | 20:57 |
| @crythias | dat's just sick | 20:57 |
| @crythias | diediekitten.com | 20:58 |
| @snapcount | stacy's mom... has got it goin' on | 20:58 |
| @snapcount | so | 20:58 |
| @snapcount | what does it mean | 20:59 |
| @snapcount | the test wants to smoke a dubious | 20:59 |
| @snapcount | I don't get it | 20:59 |
| @snapcount | let's ask W | 21:01 |
| @snapcount | !dubya | 21:01 |
| @WRE | "They have miscalculated me as a leader." | 21:01 |
| @snapcount | !dubya | 21:01 |
| @WRE | "It's your money. You paid for it." | 21:01 |
| @snapcount | !dubya | 21:01 |
| @WRE | "If the East Timorians decide to revolt, I'm sure I'll have a statement." | 21:01 |
| @snapcount | awesome | 21:02 |
| @snapcount | !dubya | 21:02 |
| @WRE | "The California crunch really is the result of not enough power-generating plants and then not enough power to power the power of generating plants." | 21:02 |
| @snapcount | lol | 21:02 |
| @snapcount | wow | 21:02 |
| pbmdawg | !quote BC | 21:05 |
| @WRE | BC -> 39.64 -0.12 / Last Trade 2:03pm / Change -0.30% / Volume 39.60 / 52 Week Range 39.65 | 21:05 |
| @crythias | calc | 21:08 |
| @crythias | calc random | 21:08 |
| @WRE | No calc set for "random" | 21:08 |
| @snapcount | randcalc | 21:08 |
| @WRE | foo = foobar | 21:08 |
| @snapcount | lastcalc | 21:08 |
| @snapcount | gawwwddd | 21:09 |
| @snapcount | freakin' idiot | 21:09 |
| pbmdawg | randcalc | 21:10 |
| @WRE | confusion = <pb_M-Train> DUDE this ROCKS but I'm not sure what to do with it. | 21:10 |
| pbmdawg | randcalc | 21:10 |
| @WRE | abcstore = Poker in the front. Liquor in the rear. Anteater out until further notice. | 21:10 |
| @snapcount | randcalc | 21:10 |
| @WRE | pomade = <rizen> give me some of that palmade <MrHairGrease> I hope you mean pomade | 21:10 |
| @snapcount | randcalc | 21:11 |
| @WRE | testes = here goes a new line is it down here? | 21:11 |
| @snapcount | randcalc | 21:11 |
| @WRE | wouter = <crythias> so. is it pronounced like wooter or router? | 21:11 |
| @snapcount | ROFL | 21:12 |
| @snapcount | I think that one is my new favorite | 21:12 |
| @snapcount | !poker | 21:13 |
| pbmdawg | randcalc | 21:13 |
| @WRE | testes = here goes a new line is it down here? | 21:13 |
| pbmdawg | randcalc | 21:13 |
| @WRE | mattscode = <pbmdawg> {dangit;} i broke 6.9... beyond repair, probably. | 21:13 |
| pbmdawg | randcalc | 21:13 |
| @WRE | urine = <pb_M-Train> Did you know that all humans can urinate through their navels? | 21:13 |
| pbmdawg | randcalc | 21:13 |
| @WRE | flame = Roy and Martin are lovers | 21:13 |
| pbmdawg | randcalc | 21:13 |
| @WRE | two = one | 21:13 |
| pbmdawg | randcalc | 21:14 |
| @WRE | bunghole = FIRE FIRE FIRE!!! | 21:14 |
| pbmdawg | randcalc | 21:14 |
| @WRE | abcstore = Poker in the front. Liquor in the rear. Anteater out until further notice. | 21:14 |
| pbmdawg | randcalc | 21:14 |
| @WRE | docs = <snapcount> JT already wrote it <snapcount> currently it inserts 200 random words at a time into the database | 21:14 |
| pbmdawg | randroy | 21:14 |
| @snapcount | d;alfkdj;a | 21:14 |
| @crythias | randcalc | 21:14 |
| @WRE | urethra = {[23:14]} snapcount: or, you could commit it fucked up and try to get others to help you fix it | 21:14 |
| @snapcount | uh | 21:14 |
| @snapcount | error | 21:14 |
| pbmdawg | randcalc | 21:14 |
| @WRE | mattcompile = <pb_M-Train>: I've never compiled anything before. | 21:15 |
| @crythias | randcalc | 21:15 |
| @WRE | burn = brb self-immolation | 21:15 |
| @snapcount | dude | 21:15 |
| @snapcount | they are screwed up | 21:15 |
| pbmdawg | randcalc | 21:15 |
| @WRE | stool = crythias: sharing stool. that's just .. gross. | 21:15 |
| @snapcount | the keys don't match the values | 21:15 |
| @snapcount | weird | 21:15 |
| pbmdawg | yeah they do | 21:16 |
| @snapcount | !bofh | 21:16 |
| pbmdawg | just that one was off | 21:16 |
| @WRE | BOFH Quick-excuse: You can tune a file system, but you can't tune a fish, from most tunefs man pages | 21:16 |
| pbmdawg | !bash | 21:16 |
| @WRE | |bash 85565| <revision> in biochem class today, and our teacher, has the hugest fastest ass ever, massive fat ass right. | 21:16 |
| @WRE | |bash 85565| <revision> so hes writing on the board, and moving as he goes, when all of a sudden *WHACK*. he turned around too fast and his FAT ass hit the corner of his desk reall really hard. | 21:16 |
| @WRE | |bash 85565| <revision> lol drops to the ground for like 30 seconds while clutching his rump, then gets up and runs out, blubbering all the way. | 21:16 |
| @WRE | |bash 85565| <revision> i have never laughed so hard at someone elses expense. | 21:16 |
| pbmdawg | !bash | 21:16 |
| @WRE | |bash 88528| <Fark_Ninja> The most overlooked advantage to owning a computer is that if it fouls up there's no law against wacking it around a little. | 21:16 |
| @WRE | |bash 88528| <Cerebus> The same is actually true for a penis. | 21:16 |
| pbmdawg | !bash | 21:17 |
| @WRE | |bash 106602| <tr0n> OBLIQUE WROTE THE BOOK '101 HOME REMEDIES TO CURE WANKER'S CRAMP'. | 21:17 |
| @WRE | |bash 106602| <tr0n> AND IS NOW WORKING ON 'HOW TO RESTORE RECTAL ELASTICITY' | 21:17 |
| pbmdawg | calc chirp "And I was thinking, 'chirpy chirpy chirpy'" | 21:17 |
| pbmdawg | !bash | 21:17 |
| @WRE | |bash 119073| <exo> why are redneck murders so hard to solve | 21:17 |
| @WRE | |bash 119073| <exo> cuz theres no dental records and all their DNA is the same | 21:17 |
| @WRE | |bash 119073| <fearz> HAHAHA | 21:17 |
| pbmdawg | !bash | 21:17 |
| @snapcount | heh | 21:18 |
| @snapcount | you broke bash | 21:18 |
| pbmdawg | !bash ME | 21:18 |
| @WRE | !bash search results: Q# 23396 | Q# 4281 | Q# 5273 | Q# 99060 | Q# 244321 | Q# 287414 | Q# 99835 | Q# 207373 | Q# 5775 | Q# 4753 | 21:18 |
| @snapcount | !bash bash | 21:18 |
| @WRE | !bash search results: Q# 21516 | Q# 185361 | Q# 60469 | Q# 192531 | Q# 345144 | Q# 194647 | Q# 31 | Q# 230936 | Q# 140720 | Q# 50070 | 21:18 |
| pbmdawg | !bash crythias | 21:18 |
| @WRE | !bash: no results found for search | 21:18 |
| pbmdawg | !bash roy | 21:18 |
| @WRE | !bash search results: Q# 104383 | Q# 151861 | Q# 408973 | Q# 520466 | Q# 402242 | Q# 610952 | Q# 15920 | Q# 181581 | Q# 56044 | Q# 13813 | 21:18 |
| pbmdawg | !bash snapcount | 21:18 |
| @snapcount | ooh | 21:18 |
| @WRE | !bash: no results found for search | 21:18 |
| pbmdawg | !bash 104383 | 21:18 |
| @WRE | !bash: quote has too many lines to display in public channel (max 12, quote has 34): sending as privmsg instead | 21:19 |
| pbmdawg | !bash 151861 | 21:19 |
| pbmdawg | !bash 408973 | 21:19 |
| pbmdawg | !bash | 21:19 |
| pbmdawg | !bash | 21:19 |
| pbmdawg | !bash | 21:19 |
| pbmdawg | !bash | 21:19 |
| pbmdawg | !bash | 21:19 |
| pbmdawg | /kick crythias | 21:20 |
| @WRE | |bash| -[Conroy_Bumpus]- OH FUCK ME | 21:20 |
| @WRE | |bash| -[Conroy_Bumpus]- I FORGOT TO PICK UP MY 7 YEAR OLD DAUGHTER FROM SOCCER PRACTICE | 21:20 |
| @WRE | |bash| -[Conroy_Bumpus]- 9 HOURS AGO | 21:20 |
| @WRE | |bash| -[Conroy_Bumpus]- HOLY SHIT | 21:20 |
| @WRE | |bash| -[Conroy_Bumpus]- BYE | 21:20 |
| @WRE | |bash| <FoXeh> The most dangerous thing in the world is a Second Lieutenant with a map and a compass | 21:20 |
| @WRE | |bash| <FoXeh> Americans: Please divert your course 15 degrees to the North to avoid a collision. | 21:20 |
| @WRE | |bash| <FoXeh> Canadians: Recommend you divert YOUR course 15 degrees to the South to avoid a collision. | 21:20 |
| @crythias | what? | 21:20 |
| @WRE | |bash| <FoXeh> Americans: This is the Captain of a US Navy ship. I say again, divert YOUR course. | 21:20 |
| @WRE | |bash| <FoXeh> Canadians: No. I say again, you divert YOUR course. | 21:20 |
| @WRE | |bash| <FoXeh> Americans: THIS IS THE AIRCRAFT CARRIER USS LINCOLN, THE SECOND LARGEST SHIP IN THE UNITED STATES' ATLANTIC FLEET. WE ARE ACCOMPANIED BY THREE DESTROYERS, THREE CRUISERS AND NUMEROUS SUPPORT VESSELS. I DEMAND THAT YOU CHANGE YOUR COURSE 15 DEGREES NORTH, THAT'S ONE FIVE DEGREES NORTH, OR COUNTER MEASURES WILL BE UNDERTAKEN TO ENSURE THE SAFETY OF THIS SHIP. | 21:20 |
| @WRE | |bash| <FoXeh> Canadians: This is a lighthouse. Your call. | 21:20 |
| @WRE | |bash 124804| <Sopabuena> I will name my children after my testicles | 21:20 |
| @WRE | |bash 124804| <Sopabuena> Left and Right | 21:20 |
| @WRE | |bash 124804| <GreenJeanz> ......... | 21:20 |
| @WRE | |bash 124804| <Mort> I don't think 'small' and 'smaller' are very good names. | 21:20 |
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| @snapcount | hehe | 21:20 |
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| @snapcount | where did you go? | 21:21 |
| -!- mode/#webgui [+o pbmdawg] by WRE | 21:21 |
| @snapcount | uh oh | 21:21 |
| -!- mode/#webgui [-o snapcount] by pbmdawg | 21:21 |
| -!- mode/#webgui [+o snapcount] by WRE | 21:21 |
| -!- pbmdawg was kicked from #webgui by snapcount [not so fast] | 21:21 |
| -!- mode/#webgui [+i] by snapcount | 21:22 |
| @snapcount | pfft | 21:22 |
| -!- mode/#webgui [-i] by snapcount | 21:22 |
| @crythias | heh | 21:23 |
| @crythias | lighthouse. your call | 21:23 |
| @crythias | old joke. | 21:23 |
| @crythias | guess he left | 21:24 |
| @snapcount | I privmsged him | 21:24 |
| @crythias | I tried to /invite | 21:24 |
| -!- mode/#webgui [+i] by crythias | 21:28 |
| -!- mode/#webgui [-i] by crythias | 21:28 |
| @snapcount | anyone care to help test wre for fc4 | 21:31 |
| * snapcount throws a bucket of water on terje | 21:32 |
| @snapcount | 62MB | 21:36 |
| @snapcount | matt has put me on the ignore list | 21:38 |
| * snapcount is ignored | 21:38 |
| @snapcount | crythias, how bout it | 21:38 |
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| @snapcount | he's bizack | 21:39 |
| @snapcount | do you have fc4 installed matt | 21:39 |
| @snapcount | wanna help test | 21:39 |
| pbmdawg | no | 21:39 |
| pbmdawg | no | 21:39 |
| @snapcount | is that a no to both questions | 21:39 |
| @snapcount | or one no with strong emphasis to one of the questions | 21:40 |
| pbmdawg | yes | 21:40 |
| @snapcount | hehe | 21:40 |
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| @snapcount | well fiddlesticks | 21:41 |
| pbmdawg | buh roring | 21:44 |
| @snapcount | where should I stick this file | 21:53 |
| pbmdawg | guess | 21:53 |
| @snapcount | if you say up my ass | 21:53 |
| @snapcount | it would be funny | 21:53 |
| @snapcount | anyways | 21:53 |
| pbmdawg | SF | 21:53 |
| @snapcount | where should I put it so peeps can dl and test | 21:53 |
| @snapcount | yeah but | 21:53 |
| @snapcount | I wanna make sure it works first | 21:54 |
| pbmdawg | why; we release untested broken stuff all the time | 21:54 |
| @snapcount | heh | 21:54 |
| @snapcount | I guess my testing must suffice | 21:54 |
| pbmdawg | STUFFIT | 22:04 |
| @snapcount | SKETSHTR | 22:05 |
| @snapcount | THE HNIC | 22:05 |
| pbmdawg | SHIZZLE | 22:06 |
| @snapcount | MA GRILL | 22:06 |
| @snapcount | TUXNGOEY | 22:07 |
| @snapcount | CPANSUX | 22:08 |
| pbmdawg | CPANCAKE | 22:08 |
| @crythias | calc urinecakes | 22:09 |
| @WRE | urinecakes = <crythias> That's not belly lint, that's urine cakes. | 22:09 |
| @snapcount | has anyone ever seen nuba speak? | 22:10 |
| @crythias | I'm sorry. energy radio is probably my favorite feed ever. | 22:11 |
| nuba | no | 22:11 |
| @crythias | heh. Best way to stop people shorting your stock is to post a profit. | 22:13 |
| @snapcount | nuba: you're there | 22:14 |
| @snapcount | just wondering | 22:14 |
| @snapcount | crythias: you're failing to make sense again | 22:15 |
| @crythias | comment posted to http://news.com.com/2100-1038-6045466.html?tag=tb | 22:15 |
| @WRE | <crythias> http://tinyurl.com/zjjk4 | 22:15 |
| nuba | snapcount: yes | 22:15 |
| @crythias | son is complaining about short sellers of Overstock.com stock. | 22:15 |
| @crythias | commenter says They won't do it if they post a profit. | 22:16 |
| pbmdawg | short over stock stock | 22:16 |
| @snapcount | yeah | 22:16 |
| @snapcount | don't overstock on overstock stock especially if overstock stock is selling short | 22:17 |
| @crythias | http://news.com.com/Need+your+PC+fixed+Get+ready+to+pay+up/2100-1041_3-6044445.html?tag=nefd.pulse | 22:17 |
| @WRE | <crythias> http://tinyurl.com/em3re | 22:17 |
| nuba | snapcount: sup ? | 22:27 |
| @snapcount | I'm building a new wre right now | 22:28 |
| @crythias | a-shol-y | 22:30 |
| @crythias | dunno. not making sense. | 22:31 |
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| pbmdawg | wouter | 23:07 |
| @snapcount | calc wouter | 23:07 |
| @WRE | wouter = <crythias> so. is it pronounced like wooter or router? | 23:07 |
| wouter_procolix | Hi math | 23:07 |
| wouter_procolix | Well, some dutch people pronounce router like wooter, so that's a different question :-) | 23:08 |
| wouter_procolix | But I guess it's like router :-) | 23:08 |
| pbmdawg | or like water | 23:08 |
| pbmdawg | or wuuter, as massachusets people pronounce "water" | 23:08 |
| wouter_procolix | Hey, I have a WebGUI question: | 23:09 |
| wouter_procolix | about the uploadsHandler | 23:09 |
| wouter_procolix | Is it always called in current WebGUI versions, or is there an option for it... | 23:10 |
| pbmdawg | current? | 23:10 |
| pbmdawg | 6.8.x ? | 23:10 |
| wouter_procolix | SVN version. | 23:10 |
| wouter_procolix | 6.99 | 23:10 |
| wouter_procolix | Hmm, the question also for 6.8.7... | 23:11 |
| wouter_procolix | Because some of our websites has problems with file permissions since it's upgraded to 6.8.7 yesterday. | 23:11 |
| @snapcount | from what? | 23:11 |
| @snapcount | what version were you at before? | 23:11 |
| wouter_procolix | Hm, good question... I guess 6.5 or something like that... I'm not sure. I didn't do it myself. | 23:12 |
| @snapcount | oh | 23:12 |
| @snapcount | It's not optional anymore afaik | 23:12 |
| @snapcount | it was in that version though | 23:12 |
| pbmdawg | it's probably a rewriting problem. | 23:12 |
| wouter_procolix | I changed the permissions using "Edit branch" but the .wgaccess files were not updated accordingly. | 23:13 |
| @snapcount | oh | 23:13 |
| wouter_procolix | Also manual editing didn't work. So the images are still not visible :-( | 23:13 |
| @snapcount | they won't be | 23:13 |
| pbmdawg | known bug | 23:13 |
| @snapcount | every time you edit a file | 23:13 |
| wouter_procolix | Known solution?? | 23:13 |
| @snapcount | it gets copied | 23:13 |
| @snapcount | and hence a new .wgaccess | 23:13 |
| @snapcount | basically | 23:13 |
| @snapcount | the files are being versioned | 23:14 |
| @snapcount | but it's fucked up | 23:14 |
| wouter_procolix | Yikes.. So no quick fix probably... | 23:14 |
| @snapcount | no.. colin and I worked on this for a while | 23:14 |
| pbmdawg | oh, I added a flag parameter to getFiles that gets all the files, including .wgaccess ones | 23:14 |
| wouter_procolix | What's getFiles? | 23:15 |
| pbmdawg | Storage::getFiles | 23:15 |
| wouter_procolix | okay. | 23:15 |
| pbmdawg | just thought I'd throw that out there | 23:15 |
| wouter_procolix | maybe a script to modify all .wgaccess files will do as a quick & dirty solution in this case. | 23:17 |
| wouter_procolix | But I still don't understand the uploadsHandler (in SVN vesion)... I added some warn() statements in the uploadsHandler (between Session->open and $session->close), but nothing shows up in the webgui log when I access a file from the uploads directory. | 23:19 |
| wouter_procolix | s/vesion/version/ | 23:19 |
| pbmdawg | then 6.8.7 was upgraded/installed incorrectly | 23:22 |
| wouter_procolix | :-( | 23:24 |
| @snapcount | hey | 23:44 |
| @snapcount | where does apache get it's path when it runs something like preload.perl | 23:44 |
| @snapcount | the bastard is using the wrong perl | 23:45 |
| wouter_procolix | Are you referring to the uploadsHandler problem?? | 23:47 |
| @snapcount | no | 23:47 |
| @snapcount | I'm off on my own little tangent here | 23:47 |
| wouter_procolix | okay, phew... | 23:47 |
| @snapcount | sorry | 23:47 |
| wouter_procolix | than bastard != me :-) | 23:48 |
| @snapcount | oh no | 23:48 |
| @snapcount | haha | 23:48 |
| @snapcount | bastard == apache | 23:48 |
| wouter_procolix | Yeah, I guessed ;-) | 23:48 |
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| wouter_procolix | Okay, another bug... Adding new subscriptions throws an error. I traced it to this line: | 00:02 |
| wouter_procolix | WebGUI::Commerce::Payment->recurringPeriodValues($session) | 00:03 |
| wouter_procolix | (well, that's part of the line). | 00:03 |
| wouter_procolix | $sessions seems fine at this point in the code | 00:03 |
| wouter_procolix | So it must be in recurringPeriodValues I guess. | 00:03 |
| wouter_procolix | https://svn.webgui.org/svnweb/WebGUI%20SVN/view/WebGUI/lib/WebGUI/Commerce/Payment.pm | 00:03 |
| @WRE | <wouter_procolix> http://tinyurl.com/s7lz6 | 00:03 |
| wouter_procolix | Then something happens with "Tie::IxHash" but I have no idea what that is or how it works. Can someone take a quick look at the function? | 00:04 |
| wouter_procolix | It's only 10-15 lines and might be just a stupid typo or something like that... | 00:04 |
| wouter_procolix | Oh, by the way, the error is as follows: | 00:05 |
| wouter_procolix | Couldn't execute operation : WebGUI::Operation::Subscription::www_editSubscription. Root cause: Can't locate object method "user" via package "WebGUI::Commerce::Payment" at .../WebGUI/lib/WebGUI/International.pm line 78. | 00:06 |
| @snapcount | I was trying to figure this out yesterday | 00:06 |
| @snapcount | it's breaking my wobject | 00:06 |
| @snapcount | my guess is that it's a call to the user object of session somewhere | 00:06 |
| wouter_procolix | In www_editSubscription is a call to $session->user->isInGroup() but that works fine... | 00:08 |
| wouter_procolix | Hmm: | 00:10 |
| wouter_procolix | WebGUI::International->new($session, 'Commerce'); | 00:10 |
| @snapcount | what line of what file are you talking about? | 00:10 |
| wouter_procolix | That's in Paymet.pm (link a few lines above | 00:10 |
| wouter_procolix | ) | 00:10 |
| wouter_procolix | I still have difficulties with understanding how way Perl works.... | 00:11 |
| wouter_procolix | What's the first argument ($_) in the function new, if it's called like above? | 00:11 |
| wouter_procolix | $session? or $class? | 00:11 |
| wouter_procolix | Because in Internationalization.pm: | 00:11 |
| wouter_procolix | sub new { | 00:11 |
| wouter_procolix | my ($class, $session, $namespace, $language) = @_; | 00:11 |
| @snapcount | the way it's called above, $class will be equal to the part before the method | 00:13 |
| @snapcount | $class=WebGUI::International | 00:13 |
| wouter_procolix | Okay, then this seems wrong: | 00:13 |
| wouter_procolix | WebGUI::Commerce::Payment->recurringPeriodValues($session) | 00:13 |
| wouter_procolix | Because in Payment.pm: | 00:14 |
| wouter_procolix | sub recurringPeriodValues { | 00:14 |
| wouter_procolix | my ($session) = @_; | 00:14 |
| wouter_procolix | So the first argument will be "WebGUI::Commerce::Payment" , isnt' it? | 00:14 |
| @snapcount | try changing that to shift | 00:14 |
| @snapcount | my $session = shift; | 00:14 |
| wouter_procolix | Nope, that doesn't solve the problem :-( | 00:15 |
| wouter_procolix | But it still looks wrong to me. | 00:16 |
| @snapcount | oh | 00:16 |
| @snapcount | it is wrong | 00:16 |
| @snapcount | you can't do it like that | 00:16 |
| wouter_procolix | AH, I think I've got it. | 00:17 |
| wouter_procolix | I changed it like this: | 00:17 |
| wouter_procolix | sub recurringPeriodValues{ | 00:17 |
| @snapcount | it has to be WebGUI::Commerce::Payment->new($session)->recurringPeriodValues; | 00:17 |
| wouter_procolix | my $class = shift; | 00:17 |
| wouter_procolix | my $session = shift; | 00:17 |
| wouter_procolix | And you're solution does make even more sense :-) | 00:18 |
| @snapcount | unless WebGUI::Commerce::Payment->recurringPayment is a constructor | 00:18 |
| @snapcount | that won't work | 00:18 |
| @snapcount | the other way to do it would be | 00:18 |
| @snapcount | my $payment = WebGUI::Commerce::Payment->new($session); | 00:19 |
| @snapcount | $payment->recurringPayment(); | 00:19 |
| @snapcount | period values | 00:19 |
| @snapcount | whatever the method is | 00:19 |
| wouter_procolix | Oh: | 00:20 |
| wouter_procolix | Couldn't execute operation : WebGUI::Operation::Subscription::www_editSubscription. Root cause: Can't locate object method "new" via package "WebGUI::Commerce::Payment" | 00:20 |
| @snapcount | oh | 00:21 |
| @snapcount | the constructor must be something else then | 00:21 |
| wouter_procolix | init... | 00:21 |
| wouter_procolix | =head2 init ( namespace ) | 00:21 |
| wouter_procolix | I'm not sure about that... | 00:22 |
| @snapcount | sorry | 00:23 |
| @snapcount | I'm wrong | 00:23 |
| @snapcount | that's not a class method | 00:23 |
| @snapcount | it's a procedural method | 00:23 |
| wouter_procolix | So than my original solution is fine? | 00:23 |
| @snapcount | no | 00:23 |
| @snapcount | the class name is not passed to the function when it's procedural | 00:24 |
| @snapcount | it's just for scope resolution | 00:24 |
| @snapcount | The problem is probably in i18n | 00:24 |
| @snapcount | look at the changes made to the Payment i18n | 00:25 |
| wouter_procolix | The strange thing is that it worked (or at least it seemed to work) with one shift before "$session = shift" | 00:26 |
| @snapcount | really? | 00:26 |
| wouter_procolix | I looked at other occurences of "WebGUI::International->new($session [, namespace]) and they all were the same... | 00:26 |
| wouter_procolix | Yes, I get a working form back, and no errors in the log file. | 00:27 |
| @snapcount | I'm no perl OO expert myself | 00:28 |
| @snapcount | so we should probably ask someone why that works | 00:28 |
| @snapcount | to make sure it's right | 00:28 |
| wouter_procolix | I'll ask Martin... I think he wrote the Commerce system or a big part of it. | 00:28 |
| @snapcount | he would know | 00:29 |
| wouter_procolix | Besides that, he has a lot of Perl experience, so he'll understand it better :-) | 00:29 |
| wouter_procolix | I've a lot of experience in C/C++ and some other languages, but Perl is so much different... | 00:29 |
| wouter_procolix | By the way, when saving the new subscription, I still get the "Can't call method "user"" error, but I'll take a look at that later... | 00:30 |
| wouter_procolix | Either this was no good solution, or there is another bug. | 00:31 |
| wouter_procolix | So I'm gonna stop working now.. I'll mail Martin about this problem. But thanks for the help. It's very helpful to talk about this stuff, IMHO. | 00:32 |
| @snapcount | I agree | 00:32 |
| wouter_procolix | okay, see you later than :-) | 00:32 |
| @snapcount | laters | 00:32 |
| terje | hey snapcount | 00:33 |
| wouter_procolix | PS: Dag Ian :p | 00:33 |
| terje | just checking ing.. | 00:33 |
| terje | err, in. | 00:33 |
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| terje | anything test-worthy? | 00:33 |
| @snapcount | I'm having issues | 00:33 |
| @snapcount | almost | 00:33 |
| terje | cool mon | 00:33 |
| terje | Prolly Monday then.. | 00:34 |
| @snapcount | prolly this weekend | 00:34 |
| @snapcount | but by monday for sure | 00:34 |
| @snapcount | my laptop sucketh | 00:34 |
| @snapcount | so compiling and recompiling is slow | 00:34 |
| terje | werdup | 00:34 |
| terje | honestly though I have a box you can use if you like. | 00:34 |
| terje | It's pretty speedy. | 00:34 |
| terje | and it's got a fresh copy of FC4 on it =) - just let me know. | 00:35 |
| @snapcount | thanks... I'm just about done now though | 00:35 |
| terje | k | 00:35 |
| @snapcount | I'll keep that in mind | 00:35 |
| terje | k | 00:35 |
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| pbmdawg | terje | 01:13 |
| pbmdawg | you can compile it yourself if you want. I did it on centos and I'm a linux newbie | 01:14 |
| * terje terje be laazie | 01:24 |
| terje | I did think about it but snap said he'd hook itup. | 01:24 |
| pbmdawg | I doubt he gets to it tonight; you might just go ahead and try it assuming you have the time | 01:39 |
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| --- Log opened Sun Mar 05 00:58:14 2006 |
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| -!- ServerMode/#webgui [+ns] by orwell.freenode.net | 00:58 |
| -!- Irssi: #webgui: Total of 1 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 1 normal] | 00:58 |
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| --- Log closed Sun Mar 05 01:06:24 2006 |
| --- Log opened Sun Mar 05 01:11:25 2006 |
| -!- xdanger [i=xdanger@i.should.be.in.a.mentalhouse.net] has joined #webgui | 01:11 |
| -!- Irssi: #webgui: Total of 3 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 3 normal] | 01:11 |
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| -!- nuba [i=nuba@zaxxon.telerama.com] has joined #webgui | 01:12 |
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| pbmdawg | terje: could you exit the room so we can reset the channel and give someone ops | 02:24 |
| pbmdawg | chansen: also you? | 02:24 |
| pbmdawg | nuba: you too? | 02:24 |
| pbmdawg | xdanger? | 02:25 |
| snapcount | everyone out! =0 | 02:25 |
| pbmdawg | Fire!!!!!! | 02:25 |
| snapcount | if everyone but wre leaves he will cycle the channel automagically | 02:25 |
| pbmdawg | good for him | 02:25 |
| snapcount | he's freaking amazazzzing | 02:26 |
| pbmdawg | he probably did that earlier, and then deoped himself or something | 02:26 |
| pbmdawg | BIZATCHES | 02:26 |
| pbmdawg | NUBA | 02:29 |
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| nuba | sup ? | 03:48 |
| nuba | oh, he left.. | 03:48 |
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| pbmdawg | NO OPS | 04:09 |
| pbmdawg | part-A | 04:09 |
| perlDreamer | 0x00 | 04:09 |
| pbmdawg | oops | 04:09 |
| pbmdawg | par-TA | 04:09 |
| perlDreamer | or in the case of my latest chip 5a5a5a5a | 04:09 |
| perlDreamer | that would be two no-ops | 04:10 |
| pbmdawg | EAX | 04:10 |
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| pbmdawg | banillion | 04:11 |
| pbmdawg | fasillious | 04:12 |
| perlDreamer | calc E-ROD | 04:12 |
| WRE | E-ROD = Evil Release Overlord and Destructor | 04:12 |
| perlDreamer | greetings, Roy | 04:12 |
| pbmdawg | randcalc | 04:12 |
| WRE | plone = lame | 04:12 |
| pbmdawg | randcalc | 04:12 |
| WRE | confusion = <pb_M-Train> DUDE this ROCKS but I'm not sure what to do with it. | 04:12 |
| perlDreamer | now that's funny | 04:13 |
| perlDreamer | or rand isn't very rand-ish | 04:13 |
| snapcount | greetings | 04:13 |
| snapcount | I see our effort to restore ops was a complete failure | 04:14 |
| pbmdawg | calc papajohns sweet nectar of tomatos, cheese, and sugary dough with salty garlic yellow goo, and BACON, and pepper-ONI | 04:15 |
| pbmdawg | calc papajohns | 04:15 |
| WRE | papajohns = sweet nectar of tomatos, cheese, and sugary dough with salty garlic yellow goo, and BACON, and pepper-ONI | 04:15 |
| pbmdawg | yeah no one left | 04:16 |
| perlDreamer | so if no one is OP, how does one get op'ed? | 04:16 |
| snapcount | everyone has to leave | 04:17 |
| snapcount | and the channel will be cycled by wre | 04:17 |
| snapcount | which will give him ops | 04:17 |
| snapcount | he in turn | 04:17 |
| snapcount | will op us | 04:17 |
| snapcount | thus restoring order | 04:17 |
| perlDreamer | but _everyone_ has to leave | 04:17 |
| perlDreamer | even xdanger the schizo bot/user dude? | 04:20 |
| snapcount | ok | 04:20 |
| snapcount | I'm going to resort to darker methods | 04:20 |
| snapcount | startkeylogger | 04:20 |
| snapcount | nope | 04:20 |
| snapcount | let's try this | 04:20 |
| pbmdawg | roy: unblock me | 04:23 |
| pbmdawg | or suffer the consequences | 04:23 |
| pbmdawg | hey | 04:23 |
| snapcount | hey | 04:24 |
| snapcount | DCC SEND "byebyek" 0 0 0 | 04:24 |
| pbmdawg | calc extort <pbmdawg>: in high school p.e. class, our "coach" took us all to the local bowling alley, and each day each person put a dollar to the winner's pot. Guess who won every day? | 04:26 |
| snapcount | DCC SEND 012345689012345678 | 04:26 |
| snapcount | fuck | 04:26 |
| snapcount | the exploits aren't working | 04:27 |
| snapcount | no one is vulnerable | 04:27 |
| perlDreamer | "I am invincible!" | 04:27 |
| perlDreamer | name that movie | 04:27 |
| pbmdawg | Goldeneye | 04:27 |
| pbmdawg | of course | 04:28 |
| perlDreamer | props to the representative from Kansas | 04:28 |
| pbmdawg | I used to say that all the time | 04:28 |
| perlDreamer | what happened to the Floridian quote-a-matic? | 04:28 |
| snapcount | I'm about to DDos those who are not complying | 04:28 |
| snapcount | hopefully none of them are sitting at a university somewhere w/ an OC48 | 04:29 |
| pbmdawg | I think EV1 might shutter all our servers if you use those | 04:29 |
| perlDreamer | if you can get the lurkers to leave, I'll go too | 04:29 |
| pbmdawg | DIE DIE DIE lurklers | 04:30 |
| snapcount | I wouldn't do that | 04:30 |
| snapcount | I'm not insane | 04:30 |
| snapcount | I have other machines for such purposes | 04:30 |
| snapcount | DCC SEND "byebyek" 0 0 0 | 04:30 |
| pbmdawg | 0DAYWRZ | 04:35 |
| perlDreamer | BAKD00R | 04:36 |
| snapcount | ok | 04:37 |
| snapcount | this will take a little prep | 04:37 |
| perlDreamer | y'all think these 17" displays are too big? | 04:37 |
| snapcount | just so everyone knows | 04:37 |
| snapcount | this is not malicious | 04:37 |
| snapcount | no harm intended | 04:37 |
| snapcount | you will just fall off of freenode for a bit =) | 04:37 |
| * snapcount prepares to save the day | 04:37 |
| pbmdawg | how is saving the day going | 04:58 |
| snapcount | slowly | 04:58 |
| snapcount | I have to setup a few more bots | 04:58 |
| snapcount | it's going to be cool | 04:58 |
| snapcount | it might suck if they have a script to auto rejoin or something | 04:59 |
| snapcount | or a lot of bandwidth | 04:59 |
| snapcount | but hey | 04:59 |
| snapcount | worth a shot | 04:59 |
| pbmdawg | Accidental Damage Protection (Except in Florida) | 05:03 |
| pbmdawg | you can't get ADP in florida | 05:03 |
| snapcount | what? | 05:03 |
| pbmdawg | through dell | 05:04 |
| snapcount | oh | 05:04 |
| pbmdawg | you can't but accidental damage protection | 05:04 |
| pbmdawg | buy | 05:04 |
| pbmdawg | oh well. | 05:23 |
| pbmdawg | it wasn't meant to be | 05:23 |
| pbmdawg | (with me here, tonight, at least) | 05:23 |
| snapcount | what's that | 05:23 |
| pbmdawg | l8r | 05:24 |
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| snapcount | heh | 05:24 |
| snapcount | he's going to miss the fun | 05:24 |
| snapcount | my army is compiling as we speak | 05:24 |
| perlDreamer | what hackery are you brewing? | 05:47 |
| perlDreamer | and why didn't you use perl? | 05:47 |
| snapcount | hehe | 05:54 |
| perlDreamer | still here | 06:16 |
| snapcount | yrs | 06:16 |
| perlDreamer | yrs? | 06:16 |
| snapcount | y | 06:17 |
| perlDreamer | what's yrs? | 06:17 |
| perlDreamer | what does it mean? | 06:17 |
| snapcount | redneck for yes | 06:17 |
| perlDreamer | roger | 06:17 |
| perlDreamer | I didn't know that you spoke rednect. | 06:31 |
| perlDreamer | redneck | 06:31 |
| snapcount | heh | 06:32 |
| snapcount | you must learn at least one foreign language in college | 06:33 |
| perlDreamer | that's not a foreign language, it's a dialect | 06:33 |
| perlDreamer | I mean, do you really think an oregon redneck and florida redneck could communicate with one another? | 06:33 |
| snapcount | hmm | 06:34 |
| snapcount | perhaps | 06:34 |
| perlDreamer | oh, sure. there are commonalities, like tobacco spitting etiquette | 06:34 |
| perlDreamer | monster truck discussion | 06:34 |
| perlDreamer | and talk about how to sight in your new rifle | 06:34 |
| perlDreamer | but how do they talk about swamp boats, or snow mobiles | 06:34 |
| perlDreamer | it just wouldn't work | 06:35 |
| snapcount | sigh | 06:35 |
| snapcount | I think you're right | 06:35 |
| perlDreamer | are you about ready to nuke us? | 06:35 |
| snapcount | I couldn't make it work on one server | 06:35 |
| snapcount | I'm trying it on another one now | 06:36 |
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| snapcount | hehehe | 06:43 |
| snapcount | there's one | 06:44 |
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| perlDreamer | two | 06:48 |
| snapcount | wre counts as well | 06:48 |
| snapcount | so that's three | 06:48 |
| snapcount | I'm going to make one more | 06:48 |
| perlDreamer | so what's the strategy? | 06:48 |
| snapcount | they all are connecting from the same host so I have to be carefull | 06:48 |
| snapcount | flood | 06:49 |
| snapcount | all the bots will ping them simultaneously | 06:49 |
| snapcount | when they attempt to reply to all of them | 06:49 |
| snapcount | irc will think they are flooding the channel | 06:49 |
| snapcount | and kick them | 06:49 |
| snapcount | I have to install the script that will cooridinate the ping | 06:50 |
| perlDreamer | and the channel gets cleared and you can be OP | 06:50 |
| perlDreamer | cool | 06:50 |
| snapcount | well, when everyone is gone | 06:50 |
| snapcount | I will leave also with the bots | 06:50 |
| snapcount | then when I join | 06:50 |
| snapcount | I'll have ops | 06:50 |
| snapcount | basically I'll be creating the channel | 06:51 |
| snapcount | if it works | 06:51 |
| snapcount | =) | 06:51 |
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| perlDreamer | hmmm | 06:57 |
| perlDreamer | $#bots == $#people | 06:57 |
| perlDreamer | we're about 12 files away from the test run being setup | 06:58 |
| snapcount | sweeet | 06:59 |
| perlDreamer | one small problem, though | 06:59 |
| perlDreamer | all mixin packages fail the POD test | 06:59 |
| perlDreamer | even though they have POD | 06:59 |
| perlDreamer | it's because their package namespace differs from the filename | 06:59 |
| perlDreamer | haven't figured out a way around it yet | 07:00 |
| snapcount | ah | 07:00 |
| perlDreamer | sounds like you're not having much luck either | 07:25 |
| snapcount | just about ready | 07:26 |
| snapcount | !rp_channels | 07:43 |
| perlDreamer | ahhh | 07:43 |
| perlDreamer | AAAAHHHHHHHH | 07:43 |
| snapcount | huh? | 07:43 |
| perlDreamer | I was preparing for Armageddon | 07:44 |
| snapcount | not quite | 07:44 |
| perlDreamer | but nothing is happening | 07:44 |
| snapcount | heh | 07:45 |
| perlDreamer | ten files and counting, plus 8 mixins | 07:48 |
| snapcount | cool | 07:48 |
| snapcount | colin | 07:49 |
| perlDreamer | yeah | 07:49 |
| snapcount | cut and past like 30 lines into the channel | 07:49 |
| perlDreamer | 30 lines, okay | 07:49 |
| snapcount | you'll prolly get kicked | 07:49 |
| snapcount | but come back | 07:49 |
| perlDreamer | ok 238 - WebGUI::Session::Style | 07:49 |
| perlDreamer | ok 239 - WebGUI::Session::Url | 07:49 |
| perlDreamer | ok 240 - WebGUI::Session::Var | 07:49 |
| perlDreamer | ok 241 - WebGUI::Storage | 07:49 |
| perlDreamer | ok 242 - WebGUI::Storage::Image | 07:49 |
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| snapcount | I think I loaded the wrong script | 07:49 |
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| perlDreamer | yup, kicked | 07:50 |
| snapcount | wrong script then | 07:51 |
| snapcount | I'll continue this in the morning | 08:00 |
| snapcount | later | 08:00 |
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| -!- Irssi: #webgui: Total of 7 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 7 normal] | 15:07 |
| -!- xdanger [i=xdanger@i.should.be.in.a.mentalhouse.net] has left #webgui [] | 15:08 |
| --- Log closed Sun Mar 05 15:08:23 2006 |
| --- Log opened Mon Mar 06 14:14:44 2006 |
| -!- xdanger [i=xdanger@i.should.be.in.a.mentalhouse.net] has joined #webgui | 14:14 |
| -!- Irssi: #webgui: Total of 4 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 4 normal] | 14:14 |
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| --- Log closed Mon Mar 06 14:14:58 2006 |
| --- Log opened Mon Mar 06 17:06:06 2006 |
| -!- xdanger [i=xdanger@i.should.be.in.a.mentalhouse.net] has joined #webgui | 17:06 |
| -!- Irssi: #webgui: Total of 6 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 6 normal] | 17:06 |
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| xdanger | nothing yet =( | 17:06 |
| snapcount | are'nt you on the chanserv as an op? | 17:06 |
| snapcount | you registered the channel right? | 17:08 |
| xdanger | no i didn't | 17:12 |
| snapcount | I thought I saw freenode op you | 17:12 |
| * snapcount shrugs | 17:12 |
| xdanger | that was propably after a network split | 17:12 |
| snapcount | oh | 17:12 |
| snapcount | I tried registering the channel and someone has already | 17:12 |
| -!- crythias [n=gyoung@64.200.2.35] has joined #webgui | 17:23 |
| crythias | ok. | 17:24 |
| * snapcount puts | 17:24 |
| snapcount | you don't have to leave | 17:24 |
| -!- snapcount changed the topic of #WebGUI to: nevermind, we gave up | 17:24 |
| crythias | puts, putts, pouts? | 17:24 |
| snapcount | pouts | 17:24 |
| crythias | stats p not working in gaim | 17:24 |
| crythias | no /who either | 17:24 |
| crythias | hi | 17:25 |
| snapcount | damn idlers | 17:25 |
| crythias | um. yeah | 17:25 |
| snapcount | I'm going to set the bot to start kicking them | 17:25 |
| crythias | xdanger disappeared | 17:25 |
| snapcount | so this doesn't happen again | 17:25 |
| crythias | chansen | 17:26 |
| crythias | terje | 17:26 |
| snapcount | I'm kind of grumpy | 17:26 |
| crythias | understood | 17:26 |
| snapcount | we lost a pretty important server last night | 17:26 |
| snapcount | twas a late night | 17:26 |
| crythias | oh? ick. | 17:26 |
| snapcount | had to buy a new server | 17:26 |
| snapcount | and | 17:26 |
| snapcount | the one that died | 17:26 |
| -!- BearPerson [i=karsten@sourcemage/wizard/pdpc.bronze.BearPerson] has joined #webgui | 17:26 |
| snapcount | hosted about 80 sites and our primary dns | 17:27 |
| crythias | I've been warned that my traffic was too much on my free host. | 17:27 |
| crythias | ack! ack! ack! | 17:27 |
| snapcount | yeah | 17:27 |
| snapcount | it sucked hard | 17:27 |
| snapcount | hi bear | 17:27 |
| snapcount | for some reason libapreq is using the wrong perl | 17:28 |
| snapcount | I'm so close to having this fc4 wre | 17:28 |
| crythias | h | 17:28 |
| snapcount | i | 17:29 |
| snapcount | j | 17:29 |
| snapcount | k | 17:29 |
| snapcount | l | 17:29 |
| crythias | sanpcount: http://freenode.net/group_registration.shtml | 17:29 |
| WRE | <crythias> http://tinyurl.com/7yvxk | 17:29 |
| crythias | I think it's time to check it out. | 17:29 |
| xdanger | BearPerson is a freenode staffer, and could help us get ops back | 17:29 |
| snapcount | oh | 17:29 |
| crythias | kewl | 17:29 |
| snapcount | thanks x | 17:29 |
| BearPerson | I'm not sure if you'd quite qualify for primary group, let me see | 17:29 |
| snapcount | we usually have more peeps | 17:30 |
| BearPerson | does any of you run/own something called "webgui" ? | 17:30 |
| snapcount | they all left b/c we're trying to cycle the channel | 17:30 |
| snapcount | yes | 17:30 |
| BearPerson | hmm | 17:30 |
| snapcount | I work for Plainblack | 17:30 |
| snapcount | the comapany that makes WebGUI | 17:30 |
| crythias | http://www.plainblack.com/webgui | 17:30 |
| crythias | http://www.plainblack.com/staff snapcount is roy johnson | 17:31 |
| crythias | I'm a volunteer. | 17:31 |
| BearPerson | hmm | 17:31 |
| * snapcount dcc's some dna to BearPerson =) | 17:31 |
| BearPerson | okay, looking good so far then | 17:31 |
| BearPerson | hmm | 17:32 |
| BearPerson | yeah, http://freenode.net/group_registration.shtml it will be then | 17:33 |
| WRE | <BearPerson> http://tinyurl.com/7yvxk | 17:33 |
| snapcount | I need to read through this? | 17:33 |
| BearPerson | how high op the food chain can we get someone to fill out an approving group form for one of the people in here? | 17:33 |
| BearPerson | s/op/up/ | 17:33 |
| BearPerson | yeah, would help 8-) | 17:34 |
| snapcount | ok | 17:34 |
| crythias | Probably JT | 17:34 |
| snapcount | I'm in charge or all our community stuff | 17:34 |
| snapcount | but I could get my boss to do it | 17:34 |
| snapcount | he owns the company | 17:34 |
| BearPerson | that'll work 8-) | 17:34 |
| snapcount | k | 17:34 |
| snapcount | so after we fill this out | 17:34 |
| snapcount | we'll have ops again =) | 17:34 |
| BearPerson | if you could get him to fill out one form as "approving contact" and you fill one out as "being approved" with his name in the "approved by", we should be fine | 17:35 |
| snapcount | ok cool | 17:35 |
| snapcount | appreciate the help | 17:35 |
| snapcount | he's still sleeping b/c of last nights server episode, so we'll have to wait a bit | 17:40 |
| xdanger | what kind of episode ?-) | 17:40 |
| snapcount | complete hardware failure | 17:41 |
| snapcount | primary dns | 17:41 |
| snapcount | about 80 sites | 17:41 |
| snapcount | we got it back up pretty fast | 17:41 |
| chansen | whatsup? | 17:41 |
| chansen | crythias: you called? | 17:42 |
| snapcount | christian! | 17:42 |
| snapcount | nobody has ops | 17:42 |
| crythias | yeah, that | 17:42 |
| crythias | nuba | 17:42 |
| chansen | who need ops? ;P | 17:42 |
| snapcount | we were trying to get everyone to leave so we could cycle the channel | 17:42 |
| snapcount | hehe | 17:42 |
| xdanger | those are nice... especially sunday evenings =) | 17:42 |
| snapcount | xdanger: no doubt | 17:42 |
| snapcount | I was just about to crawl into bed | 17:43 |
| snapcount | and my phone starts going off with messages from the server | 17:43 |
| snapcount | 'help me, I'm dying' | 17:43 |
| chansen | cat FreeNode provide some assistant? | 17:43 |
| chansen | s/cat/can't/ | 17:43 |
| snapcount | yeah | 17:43 |
| crythias | yeah but it's paperwork :) | 17:43 |
| snapcount | BearPerson is a fn staffer | 17:43 |
| snapcount | we're going to register the channel | 17:44 |
| snapcount | but we have to wait for JT to wake up | 17:44 |
| snapcount | haha | 17:44 |
| chansen | it's kind of rude to ask people to leave, and even worse, cursing them. | 17:45 |
| xdanger | hey, I actually have a question about wg... Is anyone doing anything to tempalate pagination ? | 17:46 |
| snapcount | template it how? | 17:48 |
| snapcount | so the links are templatable you mean | 17:49 |
| xdanger | yes... We have a "multilingual" site that has event calendars on every language and "Previous 6 months - Next 6 months" | 17:50 |
| xdanger | It would also be nice to have CS with out >> or << marks.. | 17:50 |
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| snapcount | hey matt | 17:51 |
| pbmdawg | hey drivel-tongue | 17:51 |
| xdanger | someone could bread down the pagination.nextPage variable to pagination.nextPageUrl .nextPageText or something like that | 17:52 |
| snapcount | do you have perl skillz? | 17:54 |
| xdanger | little hacking now and then... | 17:54 |
| snapcount | well, if you want to implement it using 6.99 | 17:54 |
| snapcount | you can submit your patch to the dev list | 17:54 |
| snapcount | and we could get it in 7 | 17:55 |
| snapcount | I'll answer questions and stuff | 17:55 |
| xdanger | There was some talks about convertion pagination to utility asset ? | 17:55 |
| snapcount | but I don't have time to do it myself | 17:55 |
| snapcount | I never heard that discussion | 17:55 |
| xdanger | rfe 1229466 | 17:55 |
| xdanger | snapcount: http://tinyurl.com/zw5gy | 17:56 |
| snapcount | that looks like matt's baby | 17:58 |
| pbmdawg | more like my tarbaby | 17:59 |
| snapcount | pfft | 17:59 |
| pbmdawg | oh wait, that's the calendar. | 17:59 |
| snapcount | did you ever run this idea by JT? | 17:59 |
| snapcount | xdanger: I would suggest posting to the dev list referencing the rfe | 18:00 |
| snapcount | if you're willing to try and implement it | 18:00 |
| snapcount | make sure you state the end goal | 18:00 |
| snapcount | as JT may no like the proposed implementation | 18:00 |
| snapcount | but he will suggest alternatives | 18:01 |
| snapcount | if you tell him what you're trying to accomplish | 18:01 |
| xdanger | pagination is just about the last thing in webgui that hasn't been templated =) | 18:02 |
| snapcount | I agree | 18:02 |
| snapcount | I think it would be cool | 18:02 |
| snapcount | you better do it fast though... in about two months no new features are going in for quite some time | 18:03 |
| snapcount | now is the time to do it | 18:03 |
| pbmdawg | not quite the last thing. | 18:03 |
| pbmdawg | the form controls are not templatable (programmatically) | 18:03 |
| pbmdawg | nor is the edit profile screen. | 18:03 |
| pbmdawg | nor is the admin console (enough) | 18:03 |
| snapcount | bah | 18:03 |
| xdanger | pbmdawg: you remember this: | 18:04 |
| xdanger | 15:46 <@xdanger> since we're using mod_perl2 shouldn't we use something like $r->filename($storage->getPath($self->get("filename"))); return Apache2::Const::DECLINED; instead of redirect ? | 18:04 |
| pbmdawg | yeah | 18:04 |
| xdanger | have you given it any thougts ? | 18:04 |
| xdanger | I just realized since storage is versioned with the changes to the asset, the files "real url" changes... | 18:05 |
| xdanger | this could be a bad thing for linking or search engines | 18:05 |
| xdanger | it you do that passthru apache the url would be always the same but you could still version the storage locations... | 18:06 |
| * pbmdawg is too busy to reply atm | 18:06 |
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| terje | morning all | 19:32 |
| terje | hey snapcount - how's the FC4 binary? | 19:33 |
| terje | I'll check site.. | 19:33 |
| snapcount | I'm troubleshooting a problem with libapreq | 19:36 |
| terje | ah ok.. | 19:39 |
| crythia1 | seems reasonable that all but nuba could leave and come back? | 20:11 |
| BearPerson | the problem is timing it right | 20:11 |
| nuba | hey | 20:12 |
| crythia1 | hey | 20:13 |
| crythia1 | got nuba. | 20:13 |
| nuba | i can leave & join later if need | 20:13 |
| crythia1 | xdanger? | 20:13 |
| snapcount | I emailed JT about the group reg | 20:13 |
| crythia1 | pbmdawg? | 20:13 |
| pbmdawg | here | 20:13 |
| crythia1 | kill your bot, though, snapcount | 20:13 |
| crythia1 | chansen? | 20:13 |
| nuba | nevetheless, this is a very lame way of handling the channel | 20:14 |
| -!- WRE [n=WRE@67-58-211-247.amtelecom.net] has quit ["snapcount"] | 20:14 |
| crythia1 | yeahbut we're fixing it. | 20:14 |
| crythia1 | long term | 20:14 |
| nuba | yup | 20:14 |
| crythia1 | just short term is an issue. | 20:14 |
| crythia1 | by we I mean not me | 20:14 |
| snapcount | pfft | 20:14 |
| crythia1 | heh | 20:14 |
| snapcount | chansen | 20:14 |
| -!- crythia1 is now known as crythias | 20:15 |
| snapcount | at least we don't have 40 people in here | 20:15 |
| pbmdawg | follow my lead | 20:15 |
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| BearPerson | well | 20:15 |
| nuba | yeah that'd be rediculous | 20:15 |
| nuba | ridiculous* | 20:15 |
| nuba | ok there we go | 20:15 |
| crythias | #webgui-waitingroom | 20:15 |
| BearPerson | if you have any short-term issues I think I can cover | 20:15 |
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| snapcount | so are we all leaving now? | 20:16 |
| snapcount | is that the plan | 20:16 |
| snapcount | lol | 20:16 |
| crythias | only if we can catch chansen | 20:16 |
| crythias | and terje | 20:16 |
| crythias | and xdanger | 20:16 |
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| snapcount | doh | 20:16 |
| BearPerson | hmm | 20:16 |
| snapcount | this will make a great story one day | 20:16 |
| nuba | heh | 20:17 |
| BearPerson | anything immediate you need channel registration/ops for? | 20:17 |
| crythias | #webgui-waitingroom | 20:17 |
| nuba | ok | 20:17 |
| BearPerson | nuba, you're not identified to nickserv by the way | 20:17 |
| BearPerson | I mean, we could just run the channel opless until we can get the group thing covered | 20:17 |
| snapcount | BearPerson: not really... just piece of mind and that special feeling you get with an @ next to your nic | 20:18 |
| nuba | BearPerson: just id'ed | 20:18 |
| nuba | thx | 20:18 |
| BearPerson | and in case anything happens where we do need staff, I'll do my best to find some with whatever powers we need | 20:18 |
| BearPerson | http://freenode.net/channel_guidelines.shtml (second bullet) ;-) | 20:18 |
| nuba | so, should people go to #webgui-waiting room or stay here ? | 20:19 |
| crythias | except, we're kinda ok with those who have ops. | 20:19 |
| crythias | but I like channel access list thing | 20:19 |
| nuba | come on, can one of the op-less ops herd us ? ;) | 20:19 |
| BearPerson | well, you'll get the channel registration in the long run anyway | 20:20 |
| snapcount | wow | 20:21 |
| snapcount | I'm not a very good channel op | 20:21 |
| snapcount | I think I've broken just about every rule in that link | 20:21 |
| BearPerson | hehe | 20:22 |
| BearPerson | you can always learn :P | 20:22 |
| BearPerson | that page is just guidelines from freenode | 20:22 |
| BearPerson | the things we found that tend to make channels nice and productive | 20:23 |
| crythias | I think we need to have a vi vs. emacs war, here. | 20:23 |
| BearPerson | :) | 20:23 |
| crythias | because we all know that notepad rocks. | 20:23 |
| snapcount | notepad++ | 20:24 |
| nuba | bah i guess a fckedirot vs tinymce vs htmlarea would be more related to #webgui | 20:26 |
| snapcount | freenode seems like a socialist kinda place which is odd compared to most irc networks | 20:27 |
| snapcount | take Efnet for example | 20:27 |
| BearPerson | thanks :-) | 20:27 |
| snapcount | "remember...it's just irc. we don't care" | 20:27 |
| BearPerson | we try to not be "IRC" :) | 20:27 |
| snapcount | i see | 20:27 |
| snapcount | funny thing is when matt created this channel, he just randomly picked the network | 20:28 |
| snapcount | it's nice you guys give a crap | 20:28 |
| BearPerson | we may just be a bit complicated about all this group stuff | 20:28 |
| BearPerson | compare http://freenode.net/policy.shtml#ontopic - we actually care what the channels on our networks are about ;-) | 20:29 |
| snapcount | we fit #1 | 20:30 |
| snapcount | woo hoo | 20:30 |
| snapcount | we can stay! | 20:30 |
| BearPerson | :) | 20:31 |
| BearPerson | freenode is all about providing a communication medium for groups that already exist outside of IRC | 20:32 |
| BearPerson | I sometimes think of it as the friendly playground where all the children from the block can come to play vs. the ruined playground where the junkies gather and hang out 8-) | 20:33 |
| nuba | heh | 20:33 |
| BearPerson | we're not really about forming groups on IRC (think warez/clan/gaming channels) | 20:34 |
| BearPerson | we're currently writing something about that on http://freenode.net/humans.shtml | 20:36 |
| BearPerson | I guess the "meta-community" part is what I'm trying to say | 20:36 |
| snapcount | I get it now | 20:37 |
| snapcount | it's a cool idea | 20:37 |
| snapcount | funny how we've just kinda been here and never bothered to read any of this stuff | 20:37 |
| BearPerson | :) | 20:37 |
| snapcount | I'm sure you get a lot of that | 20:38 |
| crythias | actually, I chose it, cause it was default in gaim. | 20:44 |
| snapcount | oh | 20:44 |
| snapcount | my bad | 20:44 |
| crythias | np | 20:44 |
| snapcount | I thought it was matt | 20:44 |
| crythias | it was a collab. Colin had issues with direct IM. probably talked with Matt about it. I got involved in an issue, and created #webgui. | 20:45 |
| crythias | but the idea was Colin's and Matt's originally. | 20:46 |
| BearPerson | interesting... a client where we are default ;-) | 20:46 |
| BearPerson | we were removed from irssi's server list because they thought us not IRCish enough | 20:46 |
| nuba | oh i tried joining #webgui on freenode a few times before it came to actually exist. saw nobody, then left... | 20:46 |
| BearPerson | and requested to be taken off the mirc list to make less of a target for spambots | 20:47 |
| nuba | same thing on irc.perl.org | 20:47 |
| crythias | heh. | 20:47 |
| crythias | well, part of #webgui's staying power has been some lurker/op holders. Some of it has just been increased (I believe) productivitiy among those who participate, and then there's just me. | 20:48 |
| -!- snapcount changed the topic of #WebGUI to: We don't need no stinkin' ops! | 20:49 |
| crythias | productivity wrt working out bugs in the project | 20:49 |
| snapcount | eek! | 20:49 |
| snapcount | you said the 'b' word | 20:49 |
| crythias | um.. undocumented features, sorry. | 20:49 |
| snapcount | hehe | 20:50 |
| crythias | but we do diversify somewhat. it's not all perl... | 20:51 |
| crythias | we go offtopic some times. issat bad? | 20:51 |
| crythias | sometimes we just need to de-stress | 20:52 |
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| crythias | guess we gotta stop with the LICNSTAG | 20:52 |
| pbmdawg | why is that | 20:52 |
| crythias | Off-topic activity may result in users being barred from the network. | 20:53 |
| crythias | *sniff* | 20:53 |
| snapcount | OFFTOPC | 20:53 |
| pbmdawg | zhyikes! | 20:53 |
| crythias | http://freenode.net/policy.shtml#offtopic | 20:54 |
| pbmdawg | that would be a good movie title. ("off topic") | 20:54 |
| crythias | No more NICERUG | 20:54 |
| pbmdawg | FRNCHME | 20:54 |
| snapcount | crythias: don't make me come over there | 20:55 |
| snapcount | did you read the whole paragraph? | 20:55 |
| crythias | various forms of antisocial behavior | 20:55 |
| snapcount | if we're channeling goatse images we could get banned | 20:55 |
| pbmdawg | argh. | 20:56 |
| pbmdawg | that means dubya is illegal too | 20:56 |
| snapcount | hey | 20:56 |
| snapcount | that's just the facts | 20:56 |
| snapcount | he said | 20:56 |
| snapcount | it | 20:56 |
| pbmdawg | political invective | 20:56 |
| pbmdawg | still. | 20:56 |
| pbmdawg | pr0n is "just the facts" too | 20:56 |
| snapcount | there is nothing derogotary | 20:56 |
| snapcount | it's left to the user to interpret | 20:56 |
| snapcount | (I know you're right btw) | 20:57 |
| crythias | "I don't know much about pr0n, but I know what I like." | 20:57 |
| snapcount | we may be too wild and unorthodoxed for freenode | 20:57 |
| * pbmdawg dances with some hax0r activity | 20:57 |
| crythias | but hardly even know 0r | 20:59 |
| * pbmdawg install IIS 2.0 on his unfirewalled pc. | 20:59 |
| crythias | because ? | 21:00 |
| pbmdawg | http://freenode.net/policy.shtml#proxies. | 21:00 |
| snapcount | well, at least you guys are reading the rules | 21:01 |
| BearPerson | well, being a bit off-topic on channel is okay | 21:01 |
| BearPerson | this is still your channel, meant so yau can communicate, develop social skills, and socialize :) | 21:02 |
| crythias | with respect to freenode ops, if we've tacitly agreed to the content amongst the few of us (and it's not illegal), we'd generally be ok, right? | 21:02 |
| snapcount | notice he mentioned *develop social skillz* | 21:02 |
| * crythias smacks snapcount with a trout. | 21:03 |
| crythias | smells like fish... | 21:03 |
| * snapcount punches crythias in the arm, "punch buggy green no punch back!" | 21:03 |
| * pbmdawg wipes his mouth with an empty doritos bag. | 21:03 |
| crythias | ow! | 21:03 |
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| * crythias rubs his arm. | 21:03 |
| snapcount | colin! | 21:03 |
| crythias | I'm tellin' mom! | 21:03 |
| pbmdawg | NILOC | 21:04 |
| BearPerson | yeah | 21:04 |
| pbmdawg | BearPerson = Colin ? | 21:04 |
| BearPerson | without complaints, we don't do anything at all usually :-) | 21:04 |
| perlDreamer | No, I'm clothed thank you | 21:04 |
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