--- Log opened Wed Feb 01 00:00:49 2006 |
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@WRE | *** [mode/#webgui(+o snapcount)] by gooey on EFnet | 00:22 |
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pass | I am going through the install process. The latest tarball is missing index.pl. Where can I get this file? | 00:23 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) what version? | 00:24 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) 6.8.x | 00:24 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) if it is, index.pl does not exist anymore | 00:24 |
pass | Yes it is 6.8.5. So the install doc isn't up to date? | 00:25 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) probably not | 00:25 |
pass | So, what am I supposed to be using/doing instead? | 00:25 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) actually... it seems to be up to date in head | 00:26 |
@pbmdawg | the install.txt | 00:26 |
@pbmdawg | in 6.8.5 | 00:26 |
@pbmdawg | is up to date | 00:26 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) yeah | 00:26 |
pass | ok, thanks | 00:26 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) oh it is... I don't have 6.8.5 on my system right now | 00:26 |
@pbmdawg | look under /docs/ | 00:27 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) grr... it's sad when you can't remember the commands to your own bot | 00:30 |
@WRE | * (snapcount@EN) shakes his head in disappointment at him self | 00:30 |
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perlDreamer | hey, all! | 01:15 |
@pbmdawg | hi | 01:18 |
@pbmdawg | kayak.com is cool | 01:18 |
perlDreamer | is it just an aggregator? | 01:20 |
@WRE | (phobia@EN) eh? | 01:20 |
@WRE | (phobia@EN) looking for me? :) | 01:20 |
@WRE | (phobia@EN) it's "!lastspoke" btw | 01:20 |
@WRE | (phobia@EN) kiXass http://www.insecure.org/stf/Nmap-4.00-Release.html | 01:24 |
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@WRE | *** Nick Change: phobia is now Nickola on EFnet | 01:53 |
@WRE | *** Nick Change: Nickola is now phobia on EFnet | 02:41 |
@pbmdawg | pass: I just updated the source installation documentation at http://www.plainblack.com/installing_webgui | 02:54 |
@WRE | <pbmdawg> http://tinyurl.com/4baaa | 02:54 |
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@WRE | (phobia@EN) :) | 03:47 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) I guess I don't have that on gooey | 03:47 |
@WRE | (phobia@EN) looks like bseen.tcl is broken | 03:47 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) just on wre | 03:47 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) ah damn | 03:47 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) he's talking again | 03:47 |
@WRE | (phobia@EN) gooey what is your problem? | 03:47 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) I'm going to have to turn that off | 03:47 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) Hey phob, I was thinking it might be better for Nickola to start off fixing bugs | 03:49 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) do you think she would like to do that | 03:49 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) I'm going to be doing them soon and I figured we could work on them together | 03:49 |
@WRE | (phobia@EN) cool | 03:49 |
@WRE | (phobia@EN) yah she'd probably like that | 03:49 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) probably a little easier way to ease into things | 03:50 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) ok... pass it on | 03:50 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) <tag> you're it | 03:50 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) hehe | 03:50 |
@WRE | (phobia@EN) heh done | 03:50 |
@WRE | (phobia@EN) right now I am using her computer... | 03:50 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) that's cool | 03:50 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) I'm being lazy now anyways | 03:50 |
@WRE | (phobia@EN) I'm supposed to be getting my laptop back tomorrow | 03:50 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) back? | 03:51 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) who has it | 03:51 |
@WRE | (phobia@EN) SPA | 03:51 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) why do they have your laptop | 03:51 |
@WRE | (phobia@EN) well it was there laptop | 03:51 |
@WRE | (phobia@EN) but I negotiated it as part of my settlement | 03:51 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) nice | 03:51 |
@WRE | (phobia@EN) their | 03:51 |
@WRE | (phobia@EN) not there | 03:51 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) you rule | 03:51 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) I finally sold that stock | 03:52 |
@WRE | (phobia@EN) wicked | 03:52 |
@WRE | (phobia@EN) anyway I gotta go, back later | 03:52 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) see ya | 03:53 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) pbmdawg: where do you think you're going? | 03:54 |
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* pbmdawg sings softly with a slight lisp, "yes, I love technology...." | 05:20 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) pbmdawg: where do you think you're going? | 05:20 |
@pbmdawg | ur | 05:21 |
@pbmdawg | oh | 05:21 |
@pbmdawg | "wherever I want to go, gawww" | 05:21 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) Tina! Eat your food | 05:21 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) hehe | 05:21 |
@pbmdawg | So, we're pretty much friends by now, right? | 05:22 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) well that depends | 05:23 |
@pbmdawg | Tina, you fat lard, come get some DINNER! | 05:23 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) if you keep sucking at your current rate... our friendship will only last for a finite amount of time | 05:23 |
@WRE | * (snapcount@EN) begins training to be a cage fighter | 05:24 |
@pbmdawg | LaFawnduh is *the* best thing that has ever happened to me. I'm 100% positive she's my soul mate. Don't worry Napoleon, I'm sure there's a babe out there for you too. Peace out. | 05:24 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) lol | 05:24 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) so great | 05:24 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) turn the beat around.... got to have percussion... | 05:26 |
@pbmdawg | Grandma took a little spill at the sand dunes today. Broke her coccyx. | 05:26 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) da da da da | 05:26 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) heh my dog is wigging out | 05:27 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) chasing invisible creatures and barking | 05:27 |
@pbmdawg | So are you guys like Pedro's cousins with all the sweet hookups? | 05:27 |
@pbmdawg | Geez, I think you ripped my mole off. | 05:28 |
@pbmdawg | Don: Do you wanna die Napoleon? | 05:28 |
@pbmdawg | Napoleon Dynamite: Yeah right. Who's the only one here who knows the illegal ninja moves from the government? | 05:28 |
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crythias | sigh | 07:01 |
crythias | it happened that my hd in my laptop failed. | 07:01 |
crythias | bound to happen. | 07:01 |
crythias | unfortunately, I forgot that I didn't have a *nix workstation anymore. | 07:01 |
crythias | can I just say that it's strange working on both a desktop and a fast pc? | 07:02 |
crythias | but alas, I never got this dev box to be friendly. | 07:02 |
crythias | I'm back in my happy place for a bit. ion3 is zippy :) | 07:03 |
crythias | but I don't have firefox or thunderbird on this machine yet. so .. | 07:03 |
crythias | "Crythias likes to talk to himself a lot. He averages 20 lines with no responses." | 07:04 |
crythias | calc crythias | 07:04 |
@WRE | crythias = saihtyrc | 07:04 |
crythias | greets later. | 07:04 |
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@pbmdawg | crythias | 07:29 |
crythias | yeah | 07:30 |
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lenthamen | chansen ? | 16:21 |
chansen | lenthamen: pong | 16:25 |
lenthamen | In mod_perl I want to add output to a request. I reckon I can do that using a PerlOutputFilterHandler | 16:26 |
chansen | sure | 16:26 |
lenthamen | but I get a "Apache2::Filter::print: (13) Permission denied" | 16:26 |
chansen | strange | 16:27 |
chansen | It's a sys error errno 13, do you have proper permissions on tempfiles? | 16:28 |
lenthamen | Wait.... I think I know what's going wrong... | 16:30 |
lenthamen | I'm printing after eos. | 16:30 |
lenthamen | End Of Stream indicator | 16:31 |
lenthamen | BTW: I have the code profiler working under mod_perl2.... I'm recursively looping through @WebGUI:: searching for CODE refs, and instrument that code refs. | 16:33 |
chansen | :) | 16:34 |
lenthamen | It took me half a day to figure out I need to do that in the ChildInit phase otherwise it won't work. | 16:35 |
chansen | does WebGUI buffer output and write it at once or does it stream it? | 16:36 |
lenthamen | buffer | 16:36 |
chansen | ok :) | 16:37 |
lenthamen | JT changed that a week ago. The upper part of the html is now send back to the browser in an early stage so it seems that the page is generated faster... | 16:38 |
chansen | ic | 16:45 |
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crythias | hi | 17:25 |
MrHairgrease | hi | 17:26 |
pbmdawg | hey len | 17:41 |
pbmdawg | is MSN working for you | 17:41 |
lenthamen | hey | 18:07 |
lenthamen | msn works :) | 18:07 |
lenthamen | and my outputfilter works too :) | 18:08 |
pass | when I access WebGUI I keep seeing this in the apache2 logs: client denied by server configuration: /data/www/extras/wz_tooltip.js | 18:30 |
pass | Anybody know how to fix this? | 18:30 |
pbmdawg | if no one answers here, post a question on the forums | 18:33 |
MrHairgrease | I'm not sure but it seems to be something in your httpd.conf | 18:35 |
MrHairgrease | what happens when you go to /extras/wz_tooltip.js in your browser | 18:35 |
MrHairgrease | ? | 18:36 |
pass | I get a forbidden error. | 18:37 |
MrHairgrease | also when you are logged in as admin? | 18:38 |
pass | I didn't try logging in yet. | 18:38 |
MrHairgrease | try that first | 18:39 |
pass | I logged in and I see a lot of the 'client denied by server configuration' errors when trying to access files in the /data/www/extras directory. | 18:41 |
MrHairgrease | it's probably something in our apache configuration. | 18:41 |
MrHairgrease | did you disable the rewriterule for extras? | 18:42 |
pass | probably not, what is the rewriterule for extras? | 18:42 |
MrHairgrease | it's a apache directive that allows you to rewrite urls | 18:43 |
MrHairgrease | if you are upgrading ther's a big chance that it is still in there | 18:43 |
pass | I didn't upgrade, this is my first time installing webgui | 18:44 |
MrHairgrease | ok | 18:44 |
MrHairgrease | the only thing I can think of is that you httpd config is flawed somewhere | 18:44 |
MrHairgrease | pbmdawg | 18:45 |
pass | I have 'Alias /extras /data/www/extras' in my config. | 18:46 |
MrHairgrease | which version of subversion are you guys running at svn.webgui.org? | 18:46 |
MrHairgrease | ditch the alias | 18:46 |
pass | ok | 18:46 |
pass | well that didn't help, do I need to setup a <Directory /> directive for /data/www/extas? | 18:48 |
pass | s/extas/extras/ | 18:48 |
MrHairgrease | No | 18:48 |
MrHairgrease | wait | 18:48 |
MrHairgrease | You must don't have to mention the extras directory in your config at all. | 18:53 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) it's not in the docs but | 19:06 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) it's probably easiest to have an alias for your extras | 19:07 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) also check your directory permissions to make sure the user the apache process runs as can read the directory | 19:07 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) Alias /extras /data/WebGUI/www/extras | 19:08 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) also... unless you copied extras from WebGUI to www (which you prolly shouldn't do) it should be in /data/WebGUI/www/extras | 19:09 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) without an alias | 19:09 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) apache is going to look for the extras folder in whatever you have the document root set to | 19:10 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) and unless you copy the folder or symlink it, it won't find it | 19:10 |
crythias | it's Allow, deny problem | 19:10 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) (without the alias directive) | 19:10 |
crythias | in httpd.conf | 19:10 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) could be that too | 19:10 |
crythias | by default httpd.conf denies everything but docroot | 19:11 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) but an alias would still work | 19:11 |
crythias | so you need a <Directory> directive for the extras (and uploads) to Allow, Deny | 19:11 |
crythias | alias would work only if follow symlinks is allowed. | 19:12 |
pass | I added a <Directory> directive and the errors went away . Now I can't login. | 19:13 |
pass | Here's what I see in the apache log: Can't call method "content_type" on an undefined value at /data/lib/WebGUI/HTTP.pm line 84.\n, referer: http://www.esteem2.com/public | 19:15 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) pass: what O/S are you on specifically? | 19:19 |
pass | Debian sarge | 19:19 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) you may want to use the wre. there is a binary on sourceforge for debain | 19:19 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) it's a lot easier =) | 19:20 |
pass | ok | 19:20 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) seems like you have a lot invested in the manual install though. | 19:20 |
pass | about a day | 19:21 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) Using the WRE you should be up and running in less than an hour | 19:22 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) depending on how long it takes you to download the files | 19:22 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) you'll also have the benefits of everything being configured for performance | 19:23 |
pass | I'll look into it, thanks | 19:23 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) np | 19:23 |
MrHairgrease | snapcount | 19:27 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) MrHairgrease | 19:28 |
MrHairgrease | who installed SVN::Web on svn.webgui.org | 19:28 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) prolly papa smurf | 19:28 |
MrHairgrease | ah JT | 19:28 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) it was on there before I was hired =) | 19:28 |
MrHairgrease | ah ok | 19:28 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) why? | 19:28 |
MrHairgrease | I've struggled with installing it here the whole afternoon | 19:29 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) ahh | 19:29 |
MrHairgrease | svn 1.3.0 didn't work | 19:29 |
MrHairgrease | so back to 1.2.6 | 19:29 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) I got the repository working locally | 19:29 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) but never fooled with the web part | 19:29 |
MrHairgrease | yeah we're gonna use it at procolix for internal projects | 19:30 |
MrHairgrease | installing svn is easy | 19:30 |
MrHairgrease | but getting the web frontend to work is the biggest pain i've had i months | 19:30 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) heh | 19:30 |
MrHairgrease | anyway | 19:30 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) well I wouldn't expect rizen on here any time soon | 19:30 |
MrHairgrease | time to go home | 19:30 |
MrHairgrease | see you guys later | 19:31 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) he's hiding until 6.9 is done | 19:31 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) later | 19:31 |
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@WRE | (snapcount@EN) oh my | 19:58 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) it's papa johns time =) | 19:58 |
pbmdawg | augh | 20:01 |
pbmdawg | torture | 20:01 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) torture that you can't have papa johns? | 20:01 |
pbmdawg | i can | 20:02 |
pbmdawg | it just takes too much time to go pick up | 20:02 |
pbmdawg | the delivery fee.tip is just so much | 20:02 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) delivery | 20:02 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) duh | 20:02 |
pbmdawg | ehh | 20:08 |
pbmdawg | hunger wins | 20:08 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) ahh... the convienience of ordering pizza online | 20:11 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) zero interaction with retards required | 20:11 |
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@pbmdawg | welcome oh1mrr | 20:14 |
oh1mrr | Thanks pbmdawg | 20:14 |
oh1mrr | And ge | 20:15 |
@xdanger | o someone else form finland =) | 20:16 |
@xdanger | from | 20:16 |
oh1mrr | Yes, from Pori | 20:16 |
@xdanger | I'm from Jyväskylä | 20:16 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) wow... looks like a full house over there on freenode | 20:17 |
@xdanger | oh1mrr: user of webgui ? | 20:19 |
oh1mrr | newbie and have problems to get it working properly :( | 20:21 |
@pbmdawg | well there are plenty of volunteers here willing to help you out :) | 20:21 |
@pbmdawg | just not me for the next hour . | 20:21 |
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@xdanger | oh1mrr: what version and what distro ? | 20:22 |
@xdanger | and what's your problem with it ?-) | 20:22 |
oh1mrr | If somebody could send me httpd.conf file, how I should do the things. I can ger webgui running, but trying to connect into server I can see only that index.pl script | 20:24 |
oh1mrr | I have latest webgui and distro is Mandriva 2006 | 20:25 |
@xdanger | the latest webgui (6.8.5-gamma) doesn't have a index.pl | 20:26 |
@xdanger | or does it have index.pl, don't know, but it doesn't use it =) | 20:27 |
oh1mrr | When I start: service httpd start | 20:30 |
oh1mrr | Starting httpd: | 20:30 |
oh1mrr | Starting WebGUI 6.8.5 | 20:30 |
oh1mrr | Loading www.example.com.conf | 20:30 |
oh1mrr | Loading www.oh1mrr.ampr.org.confWebGUI Started! | 20:30 |
oh1mrr | Argh sorry It slipped :( | 20:30 |
@xdanger | are you using wre ? | 20:31 |
oh1mrr | No | 20:31 |
crythias | the problem is... | 20:32 |
@xdanger | did you check out: http://www.plainblack.com/installing_webgui | 20:32 |
@WRE | <xdanger> http://tinyurl.com/4baaa | 20:32 |
crythias | don't send him there. | 20:32 |
@xdanger | =) | 20:32 |
crythias | invalid for 685 | 20:32 |
crythias | or, at least it has ben. | 20:32 |
oh1mrr | Just coming soon back, somebodys at the door | 20:33 |
@xdanger | didn't matt say earlier that he renewed it for 6.8.x ? | 20:33 |
crythias | I dunno. I guess I wasn't here for that revelation. | 20:33 |
crythias | oh | 20:34 |
MrHairgrease | oh1mrr: check this http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/YFJ6tQ36.html | 20:34 |
@WRE | <MrHairgrease> http://tinyurl.com/dv3ue | 20:34 |
crythias | guess it's better | 20:34 |
MrHairgrease | it's a working vhost def for a 685 site | 20:34 |
@xdanger | but now to home --> | 20:35 |
@xdanger | oh1mrr: you can allways buy hosting from us ;) | 20:35 |
oh1mrr | Ok, back. Now from the beginning, using Mandriva, apache2, webgui 6.8.5 and when starting sever I get webgi started message, but when connecting server I can see only directory listing. So doubt is that I can't connect into webgui, but normal http server | 20:40 |
oh1mrr | So I could use ready httpd.conf file as an exaple :) | 20:42 |
MrHairgrease | you checked out the link i posted? | 20:42 |
oh1mrr | Checking now, and comparing. I'll do the changes | 20:45 |
MrHairgrease | ok | 20:45 |
MrHairgrease | oh and you should probably ditch the www.example.com.conf file from your WebGUI/etc directory | 20:46 |
oh1mrr | Yes | 20:50 |
MrHairgrease | does it work? | 20:51 |
oh1mrr | Nope | 20:52 |
MrHairgrease | hmm | 20:52 |
MrHairgrease | did you put in LoadModule apreq_module modules/mod_apreq2.so? | 20:54 |
MrHairgrease | oh and be sure that above the vhost def you put 'NameVirtualHost *' without the ''. | 20:55 |
MrHairgrease | Not sure if that matters but you never know | 20:55 |
MrHairgrease | Also what does your error log say? | 20:56 |
oh1mrr | I didn't have apreq2 module line, but when added, I got :[root@oh1mrr conf]# service httpd start | 21:01 |
oh1mrr | Starting httpd: httpd: Syntax error on line 248 of /etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf: Cannot load /etc/httpd/modules/mod_apreq2.so into server: /etc/httpd/modules/mod_apreq2.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory | 21:01 |
oh1mrr | But Im sure ihave installed it | 21:01 |
MrHairgrease | hmm | 21:01 |
MrHairgrease | that's weird | 21:01 |
MrHairgrease | try to do 'locate mod_apreq' | 21:02 |
oh1mrr | Now it's making me laughing, locate mod_apreq | 21:05 |
oh1mrr | bash: locate: command not found | 21:05 |
MrHairgrease | you don't have locate? | 21:05 |
oh1mrr | Seems so, urpmi locate | 21:06 |
oh1mrr | no package named locate | 21:06 |
MrHairgrease | try urpmq -y locate | 21:07 |
MrHairgrease | also did you install these packages? | 21:08 |
MrHairgrease | apache2-mod_apreq libapreq2 perl-libapreq2 | 21:08 |
MrHairgrease | ah | 21:09 |
MrHairgrease | you probably have slocate installed | 21:09 |
oh1mrr | These installed :[root@oh1mrr conf]# rpm -qa | grep apreq2 | 21:09 |
oh1mrr | libapreq2-2.06-4.dev.4mdk | 21:09 |
oh1mrr | perl-libapreq2-2.06-4.dev.4mdk | 21:09 |
MrHairgrease | yeah and also apache2-mod_apreq | 21:10 |
MrHairgrease | you need that one too | 21:10 |
oh1mrr | I found mod_apreq2 from /usr/lib/apache-extramodules | 21:21 |
MrHairgrease | ah great | 21:23 |
oh1mrr | But still getting Starting httpd: httpd: Syntax error on line 248 of /etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf: Cannot load /etc/httpd/modules/mod_apreq2.so into server: /etc/httpd/modules/mod_apreq2.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory | 21:24 |
MrHairgrease | ok | 21:26 |
MrHairgrease | then find the location of mod_apreq2.so | 21:26 |
MrHairgrease | and put the full path in the LoadModule line | 21:26 |
MrHairgrease | in stead of a relative one (like module/mod_apreq2.so) | 21:27 |
oh1mrr | Something happened, now getting: The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to complete your request, when trying to connect into server, error_log shows | 21:37 |
oh1mrr | `WebGUI': Can't locate WebGUI.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.8/i `WebGUI': Can't locate WebGUI.pm in @INC (@INC contains: etc, it's obvious, that I have some paths missconfigured | 21:37 |
MrHairgrease | hmm, you could try PerlSetEnv PERL5LIB /path/to/WebGUI/lib after the LoadModule stuff | 21:40 |
oh1mrr | Didn't help :( | 21:45 |
MrHairgrease | ok try this | 21:45 |
MrHairgrease | create a file startup.pl | 21:45 |
MrHairgrease | containing | 21:45 |
MrHairgrease | use lib qw(/path/to/WebGUI/lib); 1; | 21:46 |
MrHairgrease | then do a PerlRequire startup.pl | 21:46 |
MrHairgrease | better even | 21:47 |
MrHairgrease | put an enter between the first ; and 1 | 21:48 |
MrHairgrease | only looks nicer though | 21:48 |
oh1mrr | Da*** Have to quit for now, family expect me doing something else, sure coming back tomorrow. GN and thanks a lot. | 21:58 |
MrHairgrease | bye | 21:59 |
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crythias | danger. get off the flo' ... | 03:59 |
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MrHairgrease | hey len | 14:52 |
MrHairgrease | have you ever got the test suite to work? | 14:53 |
lenthamen | hey Martin. | 14:56 |
lenthamen | I haven't tested the test suite ;) | 14:56 |
MrHairgrease | heh | 14:56 |
MrHairgrease | I think I know what the problem is already | 14:56 |
MrHairgrease | It looks like the test suite is using the wrong perl | 14:56 |
MrHairgrease | gonna check it out further | 14:56 |
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@WRE | (snapcount@EN) Goodmorning everyone | 16:11 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) or whatever time it is on your side of the earth =) | 16:11 |
MrHairgrease | here it's still morning | 16:12 |
MrHairgrease | it's only 15:10 | 16:12 |
MrHairgrease | so I just got out of bed =) | 16:13 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) haha | 16:13 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) looks like you can add that switch | 16:13 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) cool | 16:13 |
MrHairgrease | yeah I was actualling running the test suite while I was asleep. | 16:14 |
MrHairgrease | bet you can't do that ;) | 16:14 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) sure I can | 16:14 |
MrHairgrease | damn | 16:14 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) I'd have to start it while I was awake | 16:14 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) but it could run while I was sleeping | 16:14 |
MrHairgrease | use cron | 16:14 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) =) | 16:14 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) err | 16:15 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) you one upped me | 16:15 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) =) | 16:15 |
MrHairgrease | one-upped? | 16:15 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) an expression | 16:15 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) you did one better | 16:15 |
MrHairgrease | ok | 16:15 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) hard to explain | 16:15 |
MrHairgrease | I'm thinking of building the graphing stuff that was mentioned on the dev list a while ago | 16:16 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) do other language have a lot of expressions that don't really translate into something meaningful? | 16:16 |
MrHairgrease | Yeah dutch | 16:16 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) English has *a lot* | 16:16 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) I took two years of Spanish but it was worthless | 16:17 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) I can ask where the bathroom is and say hi | 16:17 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) coooooool | 16:17 |
MrHairgrease | Well that's about as good as my french | 16:17 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) What are you going to use to do it? | 16:17 |
MrHairgrease | image magick | 16:17 |
MrHairgrease | wait i'll post some examples | 16:18 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) nice | 16:18 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) are you going to model it after the Chartdirector API? | 16:18 |
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MrHairgrease | snapcount: http://geefmegeld.nl/charts | 16:26 |
MrHairgrease | don't know about the CD api | 16:27 |
MrHairgrease | never used it | 16:27 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) those look pretty good | 16:31 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) are you a math guy? | 16:31 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) math major at university? | 16:31 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) you should look at the ChartDirector Asset I contributed | 16:31 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) I'm using a library called ChartDirector | 16:32 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) the API for it is really nice | 16:32 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) maybe you could use it as a starting point | 16:32 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) your graphs look really good so far | 16:32 |
MrHairgrease | No | 16:33 |
MrHairgrease | no math | 16:33 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) really | 16:33 |
MrHairgrease | electrical enigineering | 16:33 |
MrHairgrease | you know silicon and stuff | 16:33 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) might as well be a math major =) | 16:34 |
MrHairgrease | math is a tool | 16:34 |
MrHairgrease | tools suck | 16:34 |
MrHairgrease | but you need em anyway | 16:34 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) yeah... I worked as an Electronics Technician for four years | 16:34 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) not an engineer by any means | 16:34 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) but I know a bit | 16:34 |
MrHairgrease | cool | 16:34 |
MrHairgrease | you're also a student? | 16:34 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) yeah | 16:35 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) I already have a degree in programming | 16:35 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) I'm working on a business degree now | 16:35 |
MrHairgrease | ok | 16:35 |
MrHairgrease | snapcount | 16:45 |
MrHairgrease | does the chart director asset run on 6.8.5? | 16:45 |
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crythias | heh math is a tool | 18:10 |
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crythias | Alex, I'll take minimum system req's to run WebGUI for $500 | 18:22 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) What is a 386 SX/33 with 4 MB Ram | 18:23 |
@pbmdawg | no, snapcount, i'm sorry; those are the minimum system requirements to decompress webgui's tar.gz | 18:24 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) ahh shucks | 18:24 |
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@WRE | (snapcount@EN) ooooooohhhhhhhhhh weeeeeeeeeee | 18:28 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) you and me goin' fishin' 'n tha dark | 18:28 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) da da da | 18:28 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) gimmie a gimmie a gimmie a redneck girl.... | 18:33 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) you guys should sing some dutch songs | 18:33 |
@pbmdawg | roy: get on aim. or unblock me. | 18:35 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) why would I do that | 18:35 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) the feature is working as intended =) | 18:35 |
@pbmdawg | blargh | 18:36 |
crythias | new blargh beer. Ask for it by name! | 18:36 |
MrHairgrease | ah beer! | 18:37 |
MrHairgrease | good idea gerald | 18:37 |
crythias | Too drunk to order? not anymore | 18:37 |
@pbmdawg | hahahha | 18:37 |
crythias | How do you think "Bud" keeps on being sold. | 18:37 |
MrHairgrease | damn | 18:37 |
crythias | junky beer. | 18:38 |
MrHairgrease | no cold beers @ procolix | 18:38 |
MrHairgrease | time to go home then =) | 18:38 |
crythias | heh | 18:38 |
@pbmdawg | how big's your office martin | 18:38 |
MrHairgrease | this big | 18:38 |
@pbmdawg | wow | 18:39 |
MrHairgrease | on a scale from 1 to 10 that is | 18:39 |
* crythias resizes his window... | 18:39 |
MrHairgrease | ahhh | 18:39 |
MrHairgrease | the walls are coming closer | 18:39 |
* crythias passes a Ricola. | 18:39 |
crythias | around. | 18:39 |
MrHairgrease | you guys saw this already? http://geefmegeld.nl/charts | 18:40 |
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crythias | kewl. now I feel like I need a key lime pie. | 18:40 |
MrHairgrease | Problem is | 18:40 |
crythias | or a cheesecake. | 18:40 |
MrHairgrease | the code that made it now segfaults | 18:41 |
MrHairgrease | so I'm debugging it right now | 18:41 |
crythias | smack seg around. Tell him to stop faulting. | 18:41 |
@pbmdawg | who's that big guy by the Perl sign | 18:41 |
MrHairgrease | yours truly | 18:41 |
MrHairgrease | duh | 18:41 |
crythias | ^Page(title); doesn't work. | 18:42 |
MrHairgrease | Yeah I noticed | 18:42 |
MrHairgrease | but i don't care | 18:42 |
@pbmdawg | in what version | 18:42 |
perlDreamer | roy? | 18:42 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) colin? | 18:42 |
MrHairgrease | dunno | 18:42 |
crythias | 6.7.8, apparently. | 18:42 |
perlDreamer | can we talk a little EventManager? | 18:43 |
MrHairgrease | check the page source | 18:43 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) sure | 18:43 |
perlDreamer | how done is the code? | 18:43 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) 40% | 18:43 |
perlDreamer | cool | 18:43 |
@pbmdawg | what does geef me geld mean | 18:43 |
perlDreamer | then I'm not going crazy :) | 18:44 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) I'm working on the view method now | 18:44 |
@pbmdawg | do I want to know | 18:44 |
crythias | he wants gold | 18:44 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) it's all complicated now | 18:44 |
@pbmdawg | it doesn't mean, "gild me"? | 18:44 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) perlDreamer: going crazy? | 18:44 |
crythias | or maybe he wants (to be) a gelding. | 18:44 |
perlDreamer | pbmdawg, if he did, you'd be gilty of gold theft :) | 18:44 |
perlDreamer | snapcount: I was looking for the logic using maximumAttendees and couldn't find it | 18:45 |
MrHairgrease | it means givememoney | 18:45 |
@pbmdawg | I thought it said glbta at first | 18:45 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) oh | 18:45 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) yeah that doesn't exist yet | 18:45 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) it will be a query | 18:45 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) will exist today though | 18:45 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) I PODified everything and alphabetized for you | 18:45 |
perlDreamer | thanks! | 18:46 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) sure thing | 18:46 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) I'll just pod as I go | 18:46 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) and you can edit it for clarity | 18:46 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) as you see fit | 18:46 |
perlDreamer | that will make my POD checker happy | 18:46 |
@pbmdawg | happier | 18:47 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) hehe | 18:47 |
perlDreamer | hey, I'm only about 45 files away from an automated test run | 18:47 |
@pbmdawg | really..... | 18:47 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) no shit | 18:47 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) wow! | 18:47 |
perlDreamer | yeah | 18:47 |
perlDreamer | unfortunately, they're the 45 biggest files | 18:47 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) you've been busy | 18:47 |
perlDreamer | :( | 18:47 |
perlDreamer | I did like 50 files in December | 18:47 |
perlDreamer | all little stuff like Macros, some operations, etc. | 18:48 |
perlDreamer | all: I've got a deal where if all tests pass in the test suite that an automated test run will be done nightly and sent out via email | 18:49 |
perlDreamer | the POD test is in the worst shape | 18:49 |
perlDreamer | so if you're bored, write some POD or run and fix the tests | 18:49 |
@pbmdawg | I can write pod. | 18:50 |
@xdanger | Is there a way to define textarea size per user ? | 18:51 |
perlDreamer | nothing straight forward | 18:51 |
@xdanger | just that the administrator want's to use something like 80x25, but for user the default would be better... | 18:51 |
@pbmdawg | =head2 thisSub | 18:51 |
@pbmdawg | Might do something. Might return something. | 18:51 |
@pbmdawg | =cut | 18:51 |
@pbmdawg | if you hack RichEdit.pm (or make it templatable... hint, hint), you can make tinymce resizable. | 18:52 |
@xdanger | I'm actually talking about default textarea, but that would also be nice ;) | 18:53 |
@pbmdawg | oh, textarea. | 18:53 |
@pbmdawg | sry | 18:53 |
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@xdanger | And another idea/question... how about a posibility to authenticate the session with httpauth ? I have a closed intranet and there could be a direct way to get the rss from a listing via http://user:pass@webguisite/intranet/cs?func=viewRSS | 18:55 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) I think chansen is going to be re-writing the Auth System for 6.9 | 18:56 |
perlDreamer | I just reran the POD test, and there are exactly 40 files needing substantive POD | 18:57 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) did mine pass? | 18:57 |
perlDreamer | yes | 18:57 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) sweet | 18:57 |
perlDreamer | pbmdawg's skeleton code would make any sub pass, and there's a threshold for how many subs can get by without POD | 18:58 |
perlDreamer | committing l10n work | 19:14 |
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perlDreamer | anyone familiar with the search guts? | 19:21 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) just JT I think | 19:22 |
MrHairgrease | going home | 19:23 |
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perlDreamer | snapcount: would you have a problem if I do stuff like this: | 19:33 |
perlDreamer | sprintf "<a href="%s">%s</a>", $self->getUrl("func=approveEvent;pid=".$pid), $i18n->get('approve event') | 19:34 |
perlDreamer | instead of using . to concatenate strings? | 19:35 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) no | 19:38 |
perlDreamer | cool, thanks! | 19:38 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) that's fine with me | 19:38 |
perlDreamer | I have a hard time reading all the quotes and dots | 19:38 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) hehe | 19:39 |
perlDreamer | committing | 19:47 |
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perlDreamer | are standard rules of precedence used for the Operator field in www_editEvent? | 19:54 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) oh sorry | 19:58 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) took me a minute to realize what you were talking about | 19:58 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) sort of | 19:59 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) one event may have many prereqs | 19:59 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) those prereqs are all anded together | 19:59 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) each prereq definition follows the rule assigned to it | 19:59 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) and or or | 19:59 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) does that make sense? | 19:59 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) prereq 1: Event2 OR Event 3 | 20:00 |
perlDreamer | oh, okay | 20:00 |
perlDreamer | yeah, that makes sense | 20:00 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) prereq2 2: Event 1 And Event 5 And Event 6 | 20:00 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) prereq 1 and 2 are anded | 20:00 |
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perlDreamer | is Manage Events to return to $self->view or is it a function? | 20:08 |
perlDreamer | and what is the PID of a new event? | 20:11 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) PID stems from productId because we're making events extensions of webgui products | 20:12 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) I'm not sure what you're asking on the other question | 20:13 |
perlDreamer | on the Add/Edit Event page AdminConsole, there is a link for "Manage Events" | 20:13 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) Yeah | 20:14 |
perlDreamer | does that go to $self->www_view, or $self->www_ManageEvents? | 20:14 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) manage events | 20:14 |
perlDreamer | cool, thanks | 20:14 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) Return to site will take them to view | 20:14 |
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@WRE | (snapcount@EN) colin: just committed some stuff | 20:19 |
perlDreamer | ok | 20:19 |
oh1mrr | Ge, read today again install instructions and downloaded "zillions" of perl-modules, I succeeded get WebGui running in my Mandriva. | 20:24 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) congrats! | 20:24 |
perlDreamer | oh, come on now, it's only really half a zillion, isn't it? | 20:24 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) a manual install of WG is no easy task | 20:25 |
@pbmdawg | oh by the way | 20:25 |
@pbmdawg | I should have mentioned in those instructions | 20:25 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) even if you've done it a few times | 20:25 |
@pbmdawg | testEnvironment.pl will install all of those for you if you let it | 20:25 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) nice | 20:25 |
@pbmdawg | but only one at a time | 20:25 |
* crythias was looking at dig talking about a pointer which emits a yellow beam and I was thinking but yeah, you don't want to eat the snow... | 20:25 |
oh1mrr | Nope, full zillion, in Mandriva there's nor ready pacages for full, so from CPAN most of them | 20:25 |
perlDreamer | ouch | 20:26 |
perlDreamer | Fedora Core and CentOs are friendlier than that. | 20:26 |
@pbmdawg | that's what I mean; cpan. testEnvironment.pl uses cpan. | 20:26 |
oh1mrr | Yes, with testE I did | 20:26 |
perlDreamer | snapcount: merged and committed | 20:27 |
@pbmdawg | oh | 20:27 |
oh1mrr | Only one module left without compiling, but seem to work without it | 20:27 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) which one? | 20:28 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) perlDreamer: cool =) | 20:28 |
oh1mrr | Checking for module Data::Structure::Util: Not Installed | 20:29 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) yeah... I think that's used in WSClient Asset | 20:29 |
perlDreamer | yeah | 20:29 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) if I remember correctly | 20:29 |
oh1mrr | It won't compile in my system | 20:29 |
crythias | I shouldn't post that | 20:30 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) crythias: what are you talking about | 20:30 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) am I late to the party =) | 20:30 |
perlDreamer | yellow lasers? | 20:30 |
crythias | yeah | 20:30 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) oh | 20:30 |
crythias | http://digg.com/technology/First_Yellow_Laser_Pointer | 20:30 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) "laser" | 20:30 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) </dr evil> | 20:31 |
crythias | with finger motions. | 20:31 |
crythias | air quotes | 20:31 |
crythias | "Alan Parsons Project" | 20:31 |
crythias | better ways to make yellow snow. | 20:31 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) and I shall call it!!..... | 20:31 |
crythias | but you have more control. | 20:31 |
crythias | ooh. Olde English. | 20:32 |
* pbmdawg has excellent control. | 20:32 |
crythias | sorry. drifting off to more nonsense. | 20:32 |
@pbmdawg | and taking me with you. | 20:32 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) colin: are you still working on EMS? | 20:32 |
@pbmdawg | (toward more nonsense) | 20:32 |
crythias | Egad! You astound me, Brain! -- That's a simple task, Pinky. | 20:34 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) haha | 20:34 |
@WRE | * (snapcount@EN) sings "my milkshake brings all the girls to the yard...." | 20:34 |
* crythias shakes it like a salt shaker. | 20:35 |
perlDreamer | snapcount: what is EMS? | 20:35 |
crythias | "Uh, I think so, Brain, but we'll never get a monkey to use dental floss." | 20:35 |
perlDreamer | Oh, nm | 20:35 |
perlDreamer | No, I'm done for a little bit | 20:35 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) an acronym for what you were working on before | 20:36 |
crythias | EVT MGMT | 20:36 |
perlDreamer | DCTR EVIL | 20:36 |
@pbmdawg | YELO LZR | 20:36 |
perlDreamer | YELO SNOW | 20:36 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) MILKSKE | 20:36 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) SLTSHKR | 20:36 |
@pbmdawg | BTR CTRL | 20:36 |
perlDreamer | what does Butter Central have to do with anything? | 20:37 |
crythias | *smirk* | 20:37 |
crythias | "I think so, Brain, but if they called them 'Sad Meals', kids wouldn't buy them!" | 20:37 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) GOAT BTR | 20:37 |
perlDreamer | hey now, be nice to goats | 20:38 |
crythias | anyway you read that, it's just. so. wrong. | 20:38 |
@pbmdawg | who's a goat biter | 20:38 |
@pbmdawg | or is it goat butterer | 20:38 |
crythias | beater. | 20:38 |
perlDreamer | isn't that what they add to vodka martini's, goat bitters? | 20:38 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) "You milked the cows? We don't have any cows..." | 20:38 |
@pbmdawg | lol | 20:38 |
@pbmdawg | gerald, roy wants you to answer all the support questions from now on | 20:39 |
@pbmdawg | in license plate acronyms only | 20:39 |
@pbmdawg | err | 20:39 |
perlDreamer | sounds like Coy.pm | 20:39 |
@pbmdawg | license plate abbr only | 20:39 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) that would be greeeaaattt | 20:39 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) thanks Peter | 20:40 |
crythias | oh no | 20:40 |
crythias | bad enough to do it in haiku | 20:40 |
@pbmdawg | who is Peter. | 20:40 |
perlDreamer | ha, soon I will have achieved my goal of 3500 L10n labels inside WebGUI! | 20:41 |
crythias | 2HRD2DO | 20:41 |
perlDreamer | Then nothing will stop me from taking over the world | 20:41 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) Hi Peter, this is Bill Lumberg calling again... we missed you this morning so go ahead and come on in okayy | 20:42 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) thanks | 20:42 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) $self->getEnglish("L10n"); | 20:43 |
perlDreamer | "L" + "ocailzatio" + "n" -> L + 10 letters + n = L10n | 20:43 |
crythias | "I wouldn't say I've been missing work, Bob" | 20:43 |
perlDreamer | kind of like i18n for internationalization | 20:44 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) I see | 20:44 |
crythias | no way. I think I just connected a synapse, having learned something. | 20:44 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) ocalizatio would be a cool word | 20:44 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) you should call it 1ocalizatio1 | 20:44 |
perlDreamer | oh cal ee zay shun | 20:45 |
perlDreamer | oh cal ee zay tee oh | 20:45 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) for 1 letter + "ocalizatio" + 1 letter | 20:45 |
crythias | I think people should be penalized for not reading my FAQ. Seriously. | 20:45 |
perlDreamer | What should we do to them? | 20:46 |
perlDreamer | Rack? Pincers? | 20:46 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) FIRE | 20:46 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) FIRE FIRE FIRE | 20:46 |
perlDreamer | Listen to Wayne Newton records until their heads explode | 20:46 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) turn the beat around.... got to have percussion | 20:46 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) turn it upside down | 20:46 |
perlDreamer | that's better than Wayne Newton, bad disco | 20:47 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) like a Rhinestone cowboy... | 20:47 |
@pbmdawg | it's pinky ut de brain | 20:51 |
perlDreamer | back in a bit | 20:51 |
@pbmdawg | those numbers are all running backwards! | 20:53 |
@pbmdawg | how will those poor little numbers see where they are going? | 20:53 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) did you hit your head? | 20:53 |
@pbmdawg | not sure what you mean | 20:54 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) what the hell are you talking about? | 20:54 |
@pbmdawg | stop hurting my ears | 20:55 |
@WRE | * (snapcount@EN) confused | 20:55 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) I need an opinion | 20:56 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) I'm naming methods | 20:57 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) I have one called eventIsApproved which returns boolean | 20:57 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) which is nice when you have something like if ($self->eventIsApproved) { .. } | 20:57 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) b/c it makes the code very readable | 20:57 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) well, I'm writing one now that checks if an event is full | 20:58 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) should it be isEventFull or eventIsFull | 20:58 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) or do you think the whole convention sucks | 20:58 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) this method will probably not be used in an if stmt | 20:59 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) it will be setting a template variable | 20:59 |
perlDreamer | that will probably be used as a boolean? | 20:59 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) yeah | 20:59 |
perlDreamer | I'd stick with the convention | 20:59 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) oh | 21:00 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) it will be used as a <tmpl_if> | 21:00 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) good call | 21:00 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) thx | 21:00 |
perlDreamer | I found some more labels to L10n, so I'll be doing a bit more work on EMS | 21:00 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) ok | 21:00 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) what is the diff between i18n and l10n | 21:00 |
perlDreamer | i18n is the process of making something use L10n | 21:01 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) so a localization is a language? | 21:01 |
perlDreamer | yes | 21:01 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) and i18n is a system that allows many languages | 21:01 |
perlDreamer | it's the process of making that system be localizable | 21:02 |
perlDreamer | brb | 21:02 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) oh | 21:02 |
crythias | ooh | 21:10 |
perlDreamer | see this, it will explain it all: http://search.cpan.org/~petdance/Locale-Maketext-1.10/lib/Locale/Maketext/TPJ13.pod | 21:11 |
crythias | got a reflink from my RSS post. | 21:11 |
@WRE | <perlDreamer> http://tinyurl.com/dl7dd | 21:11 |
perlDreamer | actually, wikipedia does a better job of it | 21:11 |
perlDreamer | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internationalization_and_localization | 21:12 |
@WRE | <perlDreamer> http://tinyurl.com/adcx4 | 21:12 |
crythias | :) | 21:16 |
perlDreamer | snapcount: almost ready to commit latest and last work. | 21:32 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) last? | 21:32 |
perlDreamer | I've done everything in SVN, so until you commit more, I'll probably turn to writing stuff for Help on EMS so I'll be out of your hair for a bit. | 21:33 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) i c | 21:33 |
perlDreamer | could you email me the most recent copy of the spec for this? | 21:33 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) I need your email addy | 21:33 |
perlDreamer | ckuskie at sterling dot net | 21:34 |
@xdanger | http://discuss.joelonsoftware.com/default.asp?joel.3.219431.12 | 21:34 |
@WRE | <xdanger> http://tinyurl.com/9xkgs | 21:34 |
perlDreamer | committing | 21:35 |
perlDreamer | headin' out for lunch | 21:38 |
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@WRE | * (snapcount@EN) yawns | 23:14 |
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perlDreamer | we should make gaim pay for these product advertisements | 23:43 |
@pbmdawg | in my gaim I can change the channel leave msg | 23:43 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) I like the idea of making them pay better | 23:44 |
perlDreamer | snapcount, I'm doing more L10n work on EMS | 23:48 |
perlDreamer | is the current SOW different from what's on the website for download? | 23:48 |
@pbmdawg | lots more stuff added, I think | 23:49 |
perlDreamer | I haven't ever seen any SOW or spec get smaller. | 23:49 |
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@WRE | (snapcount@EN) anyone have a 6.8.5 up right now? | 00:09 |
perlDreamer | I can set one up, what do you need? | 00:09 |
@pbmdawg | demo | 00:09 |
perlDreamer | or how 'bout demo? | 00:09 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) no... want to test off of pb servers | 00:10 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) I need you to setup a dataform | 00:10 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) and add some fields | 00:10 |
perlDreamer | give me a sec... | 00:10 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) then look at the entries in DataForm_field | 00:10 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) select name, assetId from DataForm_field | 00:11 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) cool... thanks a lot | 00:11 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) I appreciate it | 00:11 |
perlDreamer | | from | mx4CLiQt2pLWVw9_LVJvHA | | 00:15 |
perlDreamer | | to | mx4CLiQt2pLWVw9_LVJvHA | | 00:15 |
perlDreamer | | cc | mx4CLiQt2pLWVw9_LVJvHA | | 00:15 |
perlDreamer | | bcc | mx4CLiQt2pLWVw9_LVJvHA | | 00:15 |
perlDreamer | | subject | mx4CLiQt2pLWVw9_LVJvHA | | 00:15 |
perlDreamer | | one | mx4CLiQt2pLWVw9_LVJvHA | | 00:15 |
perlDreamer | | two | mx4CLiQt2pLWVw9_LVJvHA | | 00:15 |
perlDreamer | I added two fields, one and two to the Form. | 00:15 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) shit | 00:15 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) that's what I was afraid of | 00:15 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) thx | 00:15 |
perlDreamer | you mean automatically adding the mailto fields? | 00:16 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) no | 00:16 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) is that a clean install | 00:16 |
perlDreamer | yes | 00:16 |
perlDreamer | I didn't show you the fields from the default mail form on the install. | 00:17 |
perlDreamer | do you want those too? | 00:17 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) Did you check that out from branch | 00:17 |
perlDreamer | yes | 00:17 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) or is it a release | 00:17 |
perlDreamer | you want a clean 6.8.5 instead? | 00:17 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) can you run the upgrade from previousVersion | 00:17 |
perlDreamer | yes | 00:17 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) you did that? | 00:17 |
perlDreamer | no, I will do it | 00:18 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) oh ok | 00:18 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) thank you | 00:18 |
perlDreamer | +---------+------------------------+ | 00:21 |
perlDreamer | | name | assetId | | 00:21 |
perlDreamer | +---------+------------------------+ | 00:21 |
perlDreamer | | from | Szs5eev3OMssmnsyLRZmWA | | 00:21 |
perlDreamer | | to | Szs5eev3OMssmnsyLRZmWA | | 00:21 |
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perlDreamer | | bcc | Szs5eev3OMssmnsyLRZmWA | | 00:21 |
perlDreamer | | subject | Szs5eev3OMssmnsyLRZmWA | | 00:21 |
perlDreamer | | url | Szs5eev3OMssmnsyLRZmWA | | 00:21 |
perlDreamer | | message | Szs5eev3OMssmnsyLRZmWA | | 00:21 |
perlDreamer | | from | WDNzKm0Fy6_oVkBXYefNMQ | | 00:21 |
perlDreamer | | to | WDNzKm0Fy6_oVkBXYefNMQ | | 00:21 |
perlDreamer | | cc | WDNzKm0Fy6_oVkBXYefNMQ | | 00:21 |
perlDreamer | | bcc | WDNzKm0Fy6_oVkBXYefNMQ | | 00:21 |
perlDreamer | | subject | WDNzKm0Fy6_oVkBXYefNMQ | | 00:21 |
perlDreamer | | one | WDNzKm0Fy6_oVkBXYefNMQ | | 00:21 |
perlDreamer | | two | WDNzKm0Fy6_oVkBXYefNMQ | | 00:21 |
perlDreamer | +---------+------------------------+ | 00:21 |
perlDreamer | same setup as last time, but all fields in all dataforms this time | 00:21 |
perlDreamer | so what are you seeing that's worrisome? | 00:22 |
@pbmdawg | DataForm might not be fully versioned for addRevision | 00:22 |
perlDreamer | oh | 00:23 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) it's a site specific thing I think | 00:23 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) there is data in that table that is truncated | 00:23 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) specifically assetIds and name | 00:24 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) 14 char assetIds | 00:24 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) and the name values have the first two chars missing | 00:24 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) it happened after an upgrade | 00:24 |
perlDreamer | oh | 00:24 |
perlDreamer | that's bad | 00:24 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) so I wanted to make sure it wasn't a bug | 00:24 |
perlDreamer | want help chasing it down? | 00:24 |
perlDreamer | I need about 15 minutes to clean something up, then I'm good. | 00:25 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) I think JT knows what's wrong | 00:25 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) hold on... | 00:26 |
perlDreamer | not a good day... | 00:43 |
perlDreamer | Is anyone familiar with Redirect Assets? | 00:43 |
@pbmdawg | i am | 00:43 |
@pbmdawg | they're like, 2 lines and stuff ;) | 00:44 |
perlDreamer | yeah, that's what worries me. | 00:44 |
perlDreamer | what is it supposed to do if it is part of a Layout Asset? | 00:44 |
@pbmdawg | nothing | 00:45 |
perlDreamer | so, looking at the end of www_view, what good is the setRedirect call? | 00:46 |
perlDreamer | or does it just silently fail when it is part of another Asset? | 00:47 |
@pbmdawg | www_view isn't called when it's part of a layout | 00:48 |
perlDreamer | view() is instead? | 00:48 |
@pbmdawg | yeah | 00:49 |
perlDreamer | okay | 00:49 |
perlDreamer | and if you're in Admin mode you get shown a little list of links plus the editing icons | 00:55 |
@WRE | (snapcount@EN) later guys... thanks for the help earlier Colin | 00:56 |
perlDreamer | you bet | 00:56 |
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@pbmdawg | oh1mrr - are you there? | 01:26 |
perlDreamer | !lastSpoke oh1mrr | 01:30 |
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@pbmdawg | nuba: are you there? | 01:44 |
nuba | yes | 01:45 |
nuba | sup ? | 01:45 |
@pbmdawg | just wondering if I can somehow convince you to donate some time to webgui :) | 01:45 |
nuba | well i'm deeply buried at work now, sorry :( | 01:46 |
@pbmdawg | ah | 01:46 |
@pbmdawg | LuckyLStrike: same question? | 01:48 |
@WRE | * (Nickola@EN) installs WRE | 01:56 |
@WRE | * (Nickola@EN) watches WRE blow up. | 01:56 |
@WRE | (Nickola@EN) hehe | 01:56 |
@WRE | (Nickola@EN) Gotta love it. | 01:56 |
@pbmdawg | which wre | 01:56 |
@WRE | * (Nickola@EN) starts RTFM | 01:56 |
@WRE | (Nickola@EN) 0.6.0 Debian | 01:57 |
@pbmdawg | sarge? | 02:02 |
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@WRE | (Nickola@EN) Etch | 02:15 |
@WRE | (Nickola@EN) It seems that there is a problem with Mysql | 02:15 |
@WRE | (Nickola@EN) it's not leaving it's pid file, so no one can connect to it. | 02:16 |
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crythias | howdy | 03:46 |
pbmdawg | hey | 03:47 |
crythias | times like this, I wish I had a thin client wireless capable OS | 03:59 |
crythias | for my laptop. | 03:59 |
crythias | OTOH, I'm getting a 60gb drive | 03:59 |
crythias | of all the things I miss, I think I miss my passwords the most. | 04:00 |
crythias | fortunately gaim's accounts.xml is cross platform | 04:00 |
crythias | and *irk* passwords in plain text. Now for TV. It's time for beauty and the geek. | 04:01 |
crythias | BEAUTY | 04:02 |
crythias | TV ADDCT | 04:02 |
pbmdawg | TVSUKR | 04:02 |
pbmdawg | BOOBTOOB | 04:03 |
@WRE | (Nickola@EN) YARG | 04:25 |
@WRE | (Nickola@EN) wre ... install ... not working smoothly ... | 04:26 |
@WRE | (Nickola@EN) I have a question for you all about the wre, and I feel really silly asking...but...here goes.... | 04:43 |
@WRE | (Nickola@EN) What dirs are at the root of the wre? (/data/wre/) docs etc lib prereqs sbin var ? | 04:44 |
@WRE | (Nickola@EN) Is there supposed to be a WebGUI directory? | 04:44 |
crythias | wre=webgui | 05:01 |
crythias | CHM BUKT | 05:02 |
crythias | you're not dumb. YOu're academically inadequate. | 05:03 |
crythias | "What the **** is that supposed to mean?" | 05:03 |
crythias | LYM CHKN | 05:04 |
crythias | DDT ERRR | 05:05 |
@WRE | (Nickola@EN) okay....I'm thoroughly confused now. | 05:06 |
crythias | WebGUI Answer: WUT VRSN | 05:06 |
crythias | WebGUI Answer: UPGRADE | 05:06 |
@WRE | (Nickola@EN) wre 0.6.0 on a Debian etch system. | 05:07 |
crythias | WebGUI Answer: RTFM | 05:07 |
@WRE | (Nickola@EN) It has no "WebGUI" directory. | 05:07 |
@WRE | (Nickola@EN) so it errors when adding a site. | 05:07 |
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crythias | WebGUI Answer: SBMTBUG | 05:10 |
crythias | WebGUI Answer: NO | 05:10 |
crythias | hahahah | 05:11 |
pbmdawg | huh | 05:16 |
crythias | <form action=""><select><option>Choose an answer</option><option>What Version?</option><option>Errors?</option><option>Upgrade</option><option>Read Install page</option><option>Read Readme.txt</option><option>Read Migration.txt</option><option>Read gotcha.txt</option><option>append ?op=viewHelpIndex</option><option>Submit a bug report</option><select></form> | 05:16 |
crythias | er /select | 05:17 |
crythias | hahahahahhahzhzhahhhahahah | 05:20 |
* crythias laughs | 05:20 |
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perlDreamer | has anyone seen the DataForm bug posting on the boards? | 19:28 |
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crythias | !list | 20:22 |
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@snapcount | !dubya | 20:26 |
@WRE | "Families is where our nation finds hope, where wings take dream." | 20:26 |
@snapcount | pfft | 20:26 |
crythias | nobody at efnet | 20:29 |
@snapcount | My gateway machine went down earlier | 20:30 |
@snapcount | so the botnet is down b/c I'm too lazy to fix it | 20:30 |
* snapcount yawns | 20:30 |
crythias | loverly | 20:31 |
@snapcount | I did make progress... I've scripted all the iptables stuff so if I lose power, the gateway is configured automagically | 20:31 |
crythias | think I want a coke. but machine's down. bk is close. frozen coke not unreasonable. | 20:31 |
@snapcount | one of my port forwarding rules is wrong so gooey is cut off | 20:31 |
@snapcount | cat BK | grep coke | 20:32 |
crythias | Burger King | 20:32 |
crythias | yeah | 20:33 |
@snapcount | I'm feeling very frustrated and violent right now | 20:33 |
@snapcount | it's kinda cool | 20:33 |
@snapcount | I have an overwhelming desire to watch something explode | 20:34 |
@snapcount | like that MythBusters where they *vaporized* the cement truck | 20:34 |
@snapcount | that was so freaking awesome I almost peed my pants | 20:35 |
crythias | http://media.putfile.com/yes-kids-gasoline-does-explode | 20:37 |
@snapcount | holy shit | 20:38 |
@snapcount | how did they not burn | 20:38 |
crythias | http://media.putfile.com/kick-explode | 20:38 |
crythias | hee :) | 20:39 |
crythias | You never know what you're going to get if you ask me. | 20:40 |
crythias | did the first one help your explode fetish? | 20:40 |
@snapcount | yes... I feel better | 20:46 |
@snapcount | whoa... I think I just found some classified video | 20:48 |
@snapcount | http://media.putfile.com/F16_Fallujah_20040410 | 20:48 |
@WRE | <snapcount> http://tinyurl.com/dyenk | 20:48 |
@snapcount | what kind of site is this? | 20:49 |
@snapcount | crythias: do you work for the CIA? | 20:49 |
@snapcount | dude... that video better be a joke | 20:51 |
@snapcount | there's no way it's really classified | 20:51 |
@snapcount | I hope those people were bad guys | 20:53 |
crythias | no .. | 21:05 |
crythias | I don't work for cia :) | 21:05 |
@snapcount | ok | 21:05 |
@snapcount | just checking | 21:05 |
crythias | http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11062942/ | 21:05 |
crythias | http://media.putfile.com/How-to-fold-your-shirt | 21:08 |
@WRE | <crythias> http://tinyurl.com/bhh9h | 21:08 |
@snapcount | time to start some bug squashing | 21:33 |
@snapcount | wanna help gerald? | 21:33 |
@snapcount | (or anyone else here =) | 21:34 |
crythias | helping lost souls | 21:44 |
crythias | well, maybe not. | 21:45 |
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crythias | I'm supposed to remind you I live in Florida. | 21:50 |
@snapcount | huh? | 21:52 |
crythias | ooh. n8n: navigation | 21:52 |
@snapcount | you live in Florida? | 21:52 |
crythias | yeah | 21:52 |
@snapcount | I'm missing something | 21:52 |
crythias | a5e article | 21:52 |
@snapcount | is that tied into lost souls some how? | 21:52 |
crythias | no. | 21:52 |
crythias | so I'm working on an a5e, and find myself needing to remove the a5e from the n8n because the n8n is too cluttered what with f4rs and s7ts and whatnot. | 21:54 |
@snapcount | supercalifragilisticexpialidocious s32s | 21:55 |
crythias | a24z | 21:55 |
@snapcount | the alphabet | 21:55 |
crythias | zywvutsrqponmlkjihgfedcba | 21:55 |
pbmdawg | x | 21:55 |
@snapcount | xxx | 21:55 |
crythias | yeah slipt | 21:55 |
@snapcount | x1x | 21:55 |
crythias | zyxwvutsrqponmlkjihgfedcba | 21:55 |
crythias | oops | 21:55 |
@snapcount | matt: i need help figuring out a session problem | 21:56 |
crythias | sponge is a word you can spell with backwards alphabet | 21:56 |
crythias | sponged is among the longest | 21:56 |
pbmdawg | roy: I need 30 more hours in the day. | 21:57 |
crythias | heh. don't sleep for 4 | 21:57 |
@snapcount | sounds like matt is having deadline issues =) | 21:58 |
pbmdawg | no | 21:58 |
pbmdawg | I'm on time. | 21:58 |
crythias | you wimpersnappers ... in my day, I spent 12 hours straight coding my mud. | 21:58 |
* snapcount slaps crythias around a bit with a large trout | 21:58 |
crythias | that's after school. | 21:58 |
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@snapcount | well that was interesting | 21:59 |
crythias | yeah. | 21:59 |
@snapcount | i9g | 22:00 |
crythias | heh | 22:00 |
crythias | initsertng | 22:00 |
crythias | grr | 22:00 |
crythias | initseretng | 22:00 |
@snapcount | we should write a script that translates a series of words into i18n speak | 22:01 |
@snapcount | could prolly do it with one s// | 22:01 |
crythias | anyway, I'm aparently helpful on the boards today. | 22:01 |
@snapcount | cool | 22:01 |
@snapcount | !bash | 22:41 |
@WRE | |bash 34553| <mindstorms> i so l33t.....i combined my radio and computer output to my speakers | 22:41 |
@WRE | |bash 34553| <mindstorms> so now my head hurts when i have the radio and winamp on! | 22:41 |
@snapcount | !bash | 22:41 |
@WRE | |bash 34656| <+Psyko> I'm gonna go hump the couch | 22:42 |
@WRE | |bash 34656| <+Psyko> ~*boredom*~ | 22:42 |
@WRE | |bash 34656| <+Yamatto> dude, your couch puts out? | 22:42 |
@WRE | |bash 34656| <+Psyko> wall too | 22:42 |
@WRE | |bash 34656| <+Yamatto> damn | 22:42 |
@WRE | |bash 34656| <+Yamatto> i want your house | 22:42 |
@WRE | |bash 34656| <+Yamatto> unless you're like swapping wall for 'mom' | 22:42 |
@WRE | |bash 34656| <+Andaru> hahaha | 22:42 |
@WRE | |bash 34656| <+Andaru> and couch for 'little brother' | 22:42 |
@snapcount | !bofh | 22:42 |
@WRE | BOFH Quick-excuse: Smell from unhygenic janitorial staff wrecked the tape heads | 22:42 |
@snapcount | !bofh | 22:42 |
@WRE | BOFH Quick-excuse: Fiber optics caused gas main leak | 22:42 |
@snapcount | !bash | 22:43 |
@WRE | |bash 36186| <dranyam> Okay, my quote on bash.org is not mine | 22:43 |
@snapcount | !bash | 22:43 |
@WRE | |bash 40466| <DrNick668> man, a volvo hit me yesterday | 22:43 |
@WRE | |bash 40466| <DrNick668> the volvo hit me and it's gunna cost me like 200 bucks or some shit coz it was my fault | 22:43 |
@WRE | |bash 40466| <Warkha> was it an old person in the volvo? | 22:43 |
@WRE | |bash 40466| <DrNick668> nah, fat chick | 22:43 |
@WRE | |bash 40466| <DrNick668> i turned across the traffic and couldn't see her comin | 22:43 |
@WRE | |bash 40466| <Warkha> or throw food | 22:43 |
crythias | gee wonder what will show for google xmms firefox | 22:44 |
@snapcount | huh? | 22:44 |
@snapcount | you lost me | 22:44 |
@snapcount | what is xmms? | 22:44 |
crythias | it's music player for *nix | 22:45 |
@snapcount | oh cool | 22:45 |
@snapcount | you run x? | 22:45 |
crythias | yeah | 22:45 |
@snapcount | oh, that's right | 22:45 |
@snapcount | you told me this before | 22:45 |
crythias | at home, anyway. | 22:45 |
* crythias is browsing his ref logs. | 22:45 |
crythias | !google | 22:46 |
crythias | !google xmms firefox | 22:46 |
@WRE | Google Book Search @ http://books.google.com/books?q=xmms+firefox&hl=en&lr=lang_en&ie=UTF-8&safe=off&sa=N&tab=wp | 22:46 |
crythias | books? | 22:46 |
@snapcount | !g xmms | 22:46 |
@WRE | Sound Enhancing Plugins @ /url?sa=U&start=1&si=0&oi=smap&q=http://www.xmms.org/effect.php | Google Book Search @ http://books.google.com/books?q=xmms&hl=en&lr=lang_en&ie=UTF-8&safe=off&sa=N&tab=wp | 22:46 |
crythias | any straight search? | 22:46 |
@snapcount | !gg xmms | 22:46 |
@WRE | Accepted xmms-kde 3.1-1 (i386 source) @ http://groups.google.com/group/linux.debian.changes.devel/browse_thread/thread/650455e4bcbd4c78 | Installed xmms-goom 1.7.6-1 (i386 sour @ http://groups.google.com/group/debian.devel.changes/browse_thread/thread/8584a44708baa50b | xmms update @ http://groups.google.com/group/mailing.freebsd.ports/browse_thread/thread/4cf50da6a51e0839 | 22:46 |
crythias | !gg xmms firefox | 22:47 |
@WRE | chkrootkit detects hidden processes in m @ http://groups.google.com/group/linux.debian.user/browse_thread/thread/b95ad3d3065cadf3 | Firefox and bouncing cursor @ http://groups.google.com/group/alt.os.linux.suse/browse_thread/thread/59ffd3a32b4a36e2 | flash and mozilla (and firefox and epi @ http://groups.google.com/group/linux.debian.user/browse_thread/thread/881d60f8e9c85552 | 22:47 |
@snapcount | it does a straight search but google advertises their new book search at the top of the results | 22:47 |
@snapcount | so it picks it up | 22:47 |
crythias | !y xmms | 22:47 |
@snapcount | sorry | 22:47 |
@snapcount | we only use search engines whose stock is $400+ / share | 22:48 |
@snapcount | !quote GOOG | 22:48 |
@WRE | GOOG -> 379.17 -16.87 / Last Trade 3:48pm / Change -4.26% / Volume 379.20 / 52 Week Range 379.30 | 22:48 |
@snapcount | NOOO!!! | 22:48 |
@snapcount | it dropped | 22:48 |
crythias | time to get rid of that ... | 22:48 |
crythias | http://www.google.com/search?q=ion3%20firefox | 22:48 |
@WRE | <crythias> http://tinyurl.com/cd3du | 22:48 |
crythias | http://www.google.com/search?q=xmms%20firefox | 22:48 |
@snapcount | get rid of what | 22:49 |
@snapcount | the stock? | 22:49 |
crythias | search engine | 22:49 |
@snapcount | I *wish* I had some to get rid of =) | 22:49 |
@snapcount | the bot search engine | 22:49 |
@snapcount | it's a pos | 22:49 |
crythias | heh | 22:50 |
crythias | what would you expect number one search result for "unraring program"? | 22:50 |
@snapcount | winrar | 22:50 |
@snapcount | or winzip | 22:50 |
@snapcount | wait... can winzip do rar? | 22:50 |
@snapcount | I dunno | 22:50 |
@snapcount | what is it? | 22:50 |
crythias | http://www.google.com/search?q=unraring%20program | 22:51 |
@WRE | <crythias> http://tinyurl.com/94gqg | 22:51 |
@snapcount | grr | 22:51 |
@snapcount | nice | 22:51 |
@snapcount | Only the best AV software will unrar your files | 22:51 |
crythias | heh | 22:51 |
@snapcount | randcalc | 22:52 |
@WRE | wre = WebGUI Runtime Environment | 22:52 |
@snapcount | randcalc | 22:52 |
@WRE | flame = Roy and Martin are lovers | 22:52 |
@snapcount | nice | 22:52 |
@snapcount | randcalc | 22:52 |
crythias | ahhh yeahhh | 22:52 |
@WRE | whatistcl = <phobia> All I know about TCL is that TCL ain't perl | 22:52 |
@snapcount | Guess I should go try to figure out this session problem | 22:53 |
@snapcount | !bash 33582 | 23:15 |
@WRE | !bash: quote not found | 23:15 |
@snapcount | !bash 33852 | 23:16 |
@WRE | |bash| <@FKnight> if sex had a wizard | 23:16 |
@WRE | |bash| <@FKnight> my g/f would pick Typical | 23:16 |
@WRE | |bash| <@FKnight> no custom | 23:16 |
crythias | add? | 23:19 |
@snapcount | what | 23:20 |
@snapcount | whaqt | 23:20 |
@snapcount | que | 23:20 |
@snapcount | como | 23:20 |
@snapcount | eh? | 23:20 |
crythias | sex wizard Add | 23:20 |
@snapcount | speak english crythias | 23:21 |
@snapcount | complete sentences | 23:21 |
@snapcount | hables engles | 23:21 |
crythias | bash quote above. | 23:21 |
@snapcount | por favor | 23:21 |
@snapcount | did I add it? | 23:21 |
@snapcount | luckily no... I just found it and thought it was pretty funny | 23:22 |
crythias | regarding the bash quote referencing a wizard for sex, the two options given were typical and custom. While that is funny, I was thinking about what other options could be in a Wizard, such as add/remove. | 23:22 |
@snapcount | oh | 23:22 |
@snapcount | now see | 23:22 |
@snapcount | that made complete sentence | 23:22 |
@snapcount | hooked on phonics worked for me =) | 23:22 |
@snapcount | lol | 23:22 |
crythias | heh | 23:23 |
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@snapcount | I used to love seeing the signs on the side of the road | 23:23 |
@snapcount | "learn to read free" | 23:23 |
@snapcount | "call 555-555-5555" | 23:23 |
crythias | so, I thought, if there was a wizard, I wonder if the guy's wife would have chosen "add" | 23:23 |
@snapcount | no pictures or anything | 23:23 |
crythias | hi | 23:23 |
@snapcount | hi pass | 23:24 |
@snapcount | bandpass | 23:24 |
crythias | filter | 23:24 |
@snapcount | low pass | 23:24 |
@snapcount | hehe | 23:24 |
pass | I got webgui up and running yesterday. Now what??? Is the 'WebGUI Done Right' worth the $125? | 23:24 |
@snapcount | I think so... but I'm biased | 23:24 |
@snapcount | =) | 23:24 |
crythias | the support is worth $500 | 23:24 |
crythias | :) | 23:24 |
@snapcount | the support will give you more bang for your buck | 23:25 |
@snapcount | by far | 23:25 |
crythias | funny thing. I give free support and paid for it... | 23:25 |
@snapcount | that is funny | 23:25 |
crythias | english is a bugger. | 23:25 |
@snapcount | RWG has nice videos to show you how to do stuff | 23:25 |
crythias | yeah. | 23:26 |
pass | so the $500 bucks will help me migrate our existing web site into webgui? | 23:26 |
@snapcount | yep... we'll answer any questions you have | 23:26 |
crythias | well, it'll give you email support if you get stuck. | 23:26 |
@snapcount | but we won't do it for you | 23:26 |
pass | I'm sure I'll get stuck. | 23:26 |
pass | I'm not a web developer. | 23:26 |
crythias | migration from cms to cms is a pita anyway. | 23:26 |
crythias | What's weird is WebGUI works on a "chunk" dynamic, which I like a lot. | 23:27 |
@snapcount | I can't wait to hear this explanation | 23:27 |
crythias | chunk of content here, chunk of content there. | 23:28 |
crythias | you can expire chunks of content and move them without disturbing the layout of the page. | 23:28 |
pass | Our current website is not a cms. We just want to bring our website in house and I want to give our techsupport/sales/doc-writer a way to easily update/add pages. Seems like webgui will do that for me/us. Right? | 23:29 |
@snapcount | yep | 23:29 |
crythias | for mygration, tinymce would be nice in a pure copy/paste scenario. While you're viewing your old rendered content, highlight and paste it to the new article. | 23:29 |
crythias | you'll have to move images.likely. | 23:30 |
@snapcount | support covers everything... install, configuration, content, migration, apache, mysql, etc | 23:30 |
crythias | but, yeah, WebGUI *is* the way to easy update sites | 23:30 |
@snapcount | any question relating to your install of webgui | 23:30 |
crythias | I'd pay for support, especially if your thing is business important+ | 23:31 |
@snapcount | pass: what kind of business do you work for? | 23:31 |
pass | Now I have to convince upper mgmt to pay $1400 for a site design then $500 for support. | 23:31 |
crythias | $500 is easy enough to justify in most cases. Especially if you think about ldap support. | 23:31 |
pass | We are a small business that makes wirless access points. | 23:32 |
pass | www.esteem.com | 23:32 |
@snapcount | pass: you know that we do design as well, right? | 23:32 |
pass | Yes, I got a quote for $1400.00 | 23:32 |
@snapcount | oh cool =) | 23:32 |
crythias | <disclaimer> I'm not a plainblack.com employee, but snapcount is</disclaimer> | 23:33 |
@snapcount | cool | 23:33 |
crythias | you want to look identical (more or less) to your existing, pass? | 23:33 |
@snapcount | you guys build cellphone towers? | 23:33 |
pass | not towers, just devices | 23:34 |
@snapcount | oh | 23:34 |
pass | cythias: yes, they probably want it to look the same | 23:34 |
crythias | floating nav would be nice touch for wg... | 23:35 |
crythias | for those who don't curse it. | 23:35 |
pass | so wg doesn't support the floating nav? | 23:35 |
crythias | that's not true. It's just not one of the defaults. | 23:35 |
crythias | if it can go in HTML, it can go in WG, more or less. The idea constructs are different, though. | 23:36 |
crythias | instead of mushing everything together, one would build the parts that make up a whole, so it's potentially reusable | 23:37 |
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@snapcount | lenthamen! | 23:38 |
lenthamen | Hey snappie ;) | 23:39 |
@snapcount | didn't you write the commerce system? | 23:39 |
pass | I've played with wg for a little while now. Seems like a steep learning curve. Not as intuitive as I would have hoped. I guess after some time with WebGUI done right it would become easier to work with. Looks like an investment to get familiar with the system. | 23:39 |
lenthamen | Thank God I didn't | 23:39 |
@snapcount | damn | 23:39 |
lenthamen | Martin did... | 23:39 |
@snapcount | pass: the videos in WDR are a big help with that | 23:40 |
lenthamen | pass: What's so difficult about WebGUI ? | 23:40 |
lenthamen | pass: To add a page, click on "Add Layout" | 23:40 |
crythias | that menu is a pita | 23:40 |
lenthamen | pass: To add an article, click on "Add article" | 23:40 |
pass | well I was hoping I could do some redesign myself | 23:41 |
pass | Looks like I need to learn css | 23:41 |
crythias | What you'd have is article "Complete Wiresless Solutioins.. Made Simple" | 23:42 |
crythias | with content | 23:42 |
crythias | Article "Latest Press Release" | 23:42 |
crythias | possibly with a shortcut to the press release | 23:42 |
pass | and the menu system? just to mock it up it doesn't have to float. | 23:43 |
crythias | menu system is autogenerated | 23:43 |
* lenthamen just checked in WebGUI::PerformanceProfiler | 23:44 |
crythias | wahoo | 23:44 |
@snapcount | you rock! | 23:44 |
lenthamen | pfffff what a job that was ;) | 23:44 |
@snapcount | how do I use it | 23:44 |
@snapcount | I want to try it out | 23:45 |
* lenthamen is going to get another cold one. | 23:45 |
crythias | You can use dtree instead of vertical menu | 23:45 |
lenthamen | USAGE is documented in the POD | 23:45 |
crythias | I'm not completely familiar with the DHTML menus (I don't try a lot of different things) | 23:45 |
lenthamen | its easy | 23:45 |
lenthamen | PerlModule WebGUI::PerformanceProfiler PerlChildInitHandler WebGUI::PerformanceProfiler PerlOutputFilterHandler WebGUI::PerformanceProfiler | 23:45 |
lenthamen | PerlModule WebGUI::PerformanceProfiler | 23:46 |
lenthamen | PerlChildInitHandler WebGUI::PerformanceProfiler | 23:46 |
lenthamen | PerlOutputFilterHandler WebGUI::PerformanceProfiler | 23:46 |
@snapcount | add to the vhost? | 23:46 |
lenthamen | thats it | 23:46 |
lenthamen | global, I think | 23:46 |
lenthamen | I have it global | 23:46 |
lenthamen | might work in a vhost too | 23:46 |
* crythias handles his Init Child with a Perl Output Filter. | 23:46 |
* snapcount trys it | 23:47 |
* lenthamen is curious | 23:47 |
crythias | pass: you should take a look at my faq as well http://www.gwy2.org/cgi-bin/fom | 23:47 |
@snapcount | yikes! | 23:49 |
@snapcount | only half my page loads | 23:49 |
@snapcount | maybe this has to go in the httpd.conf | 23:50 |
@snapcount | and not a vhost | 23:50 |
lenthamen | yeah, move it out the vhost. | 23:50 |
crythias | I should go before someone figures out that I'm here and says, "Yeah, ummkay, Gerald, riight, let's see, I think I'll be needing you to come in on Saaaturday. Oh, and Sunday, as well, mmkay. Good." | 23:51 |
@snapcount | haha | 23:51 |
@snapcount | do the lines need to go in any specific place? | 23:52 |
lenthamen | nope | 23:52 |
@snapcount | i.e., above/below preload.perl, etc | 23:52 |
@snapcount | ok | 23:52 |
pass | crythias: thanks for the site, looks like it could help me out | 23:52 |
lenthamen | I've tried it both above/below preload.perl. | 23:52 |
lenthamen | doesn't matter. | 23:52 |
crythias | and now, I'll take my leave. | 23:53 |
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@snapcount | lenthamen: does the profiler code slow the site down? | 23:54 |
@snapcount | it seems like it is | 23:54 |
lenthamen | yeah | 23:54 |
@snapcount | and then counts the slowdown it caused in the results? | 23:55 |
lenthamen | it might be a bit slower but it's metric. | 23:55 |
@snapcount | well, I guess it doesn't matter for relative testing | 23:55 |
lenthamen | do you get results ? | 23:55 |
@snapcount | yep | 23:55 |
lenthamen | kewl ! | 23:55 |
@snapcount | p.s. it won't work in a vhost =) | 23:55 |
@snapcount | might want to pass that on | 23:56 |
lenthamen | I'll add that to the usage section in the code | 23:56 |
@snapcount | that's awesome that you got this in here | 23:56 |
@snapcount | it will be very useful | 23:56 |
lenthamen | I think the way it works is very cool.... It searches for code references and adds wrapper code around it. | 23:57 |
lenthamen | You can also profile something specific | 23:58 |
@snapcount | example? | 23:58 |
lenthamen | For example if you're working on WebGUI::Asset::Article, you could change $whatToProfile from "WebGUI" to "WebGUI::Asset::Article" | 23:58 |
lenthamen | I should make that configurable though. | 23:59 |
@snapcount | how do you change it now? | 23:59 |
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@snapcount | in the module? | 00:00 |
lenthamen | yeah. | 00:03 |
lenthamen | What do you think about this way: | 00:04 |
lenthamen | PerlModule WebGUI::PerformanceProfiler(WebGUI::Asset) | 00:04 |
lenthamen | that will limit to WebGUI::Asset::* | 00:05 |
lenthamen | defaults to WebGUI::* | 00:05 |
@snapcount | That would better than having to edit the module | 00:05 |
lenthamen | ok, going to do it that way. | 00:05 |
lenthamen | snapcount: I've changed it to PerlSetVar whatToProfile WebGUI::Asset::Wobject | 00:18 |
lenthamen | it's in svn | 00:18 |
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crythias | hee | 03:16 |
crythias | so ... I'm thinking of license plates.. MRE MEAT | 03:16 |
crythias | and it dawns on me. Maybe that's where it came from... | 03:16 |
crythias | "Meals Ready to Eat - Meat" | 03:17 |
crythias | what are we having today? Mystery Meat. | 03:17 |
crythias | I lost my job at the orange juice factory. I couldn't concentrate. | 03:18 |
crythias | Elf needs food... badly. Valkyrie shot the food. | 03:19 |
crythias | it should be noted that my new laptop hd is faster and quieter than my old one. | 03:21 |
crythias | nice to have 60gb available for my thin client, too. | 03:22 |
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MrHairgrease | matt | 17:00 |
MrHairgrease | I use rewrite rules to host multiple domians on one wg instance | 17:00 |
MrHairgrease | eg. subdomain.mydomain.com/ would be rewritten to the page /subdomain | 17:01 |
MrHairgrease | index.pl/subdomain that is | 17:01 |
MrHairgrease | however in 6.8 there's no index.pl scripts anymore | 17:02 |
MrHairgrease | so i figured let's dump the index.pl from the rule and be happy | 17:02 |
MrHairgrease | it doesn't seem to workl however | 17:02 |
MrHairgrease | probably because webgui get the uri before it's being rewritten. | 17:02 |
MrHairgrease | so how do i solve this | 17:02 |
pbmdawg | back | 17:05 |
pbmdawg | sry | 17:05 |
pbmdawg | did you have multiple gateway scripts? | 17:06 |
MrHairgrease | nope | 17:06 |
MrHairgrease | just a lot of serveralisases under the vhost | 17:07 |
MrHairgrease | the ide is as follows | 17:07 |
MrHairgrease | for each subdomain create a page root | 17:07 |
MrHairgrease | eg. webforum | 17:07 |
MrHairgrease | there's only one index.pl so we want to rewrite webforum.koornbeurs.nl to webforum.koornbeurs.nl/webforum | 17:08 |
pbmdawg | ok.. | 17:08 |
MrHairgrease | which is actually the same page as koornbeurs.nl/webforum | 17:08 |
MrHairgrease | I hacked WebGUI.pm as a quick fix. | 17:09 |
pbmdawg | so what if someone requests webforum.koornbeurs.nl/somePage | 17:09 |
MrHairgrease | but essentially that sucks | 17:09 |
MrHairgrease | then it should not rewrite | 17:09 |
MrHairgrease | just serve the page | 17:09 |
MrHairgrease | depending on what you want taht is | 17:09 |
pbmdawg | ok, so it's just requests whose uri is '/' | 17:10 |
MrHairgrease | in this case it is | 17:10 |
MrHairgrease | sometimes you don't want that | 17:10 |
MrHairgrease | for instance | 17:10 |
MrHairgrease | you have two languages on the same site | 17:10 |
MrHairgrease | wait | 17:11 |
MrHairgrease | i must be using drugs | 17:11 |
MrHairgrease | only the '/' | 17:11 |
pbmdawg | hey, look at my irc msg to you | 17:12 |
MrHairgrease | wait | 17:14 |
MrHairgrease | brb | 17:14 |
MrHairgrease | laters | 18:00 |
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crythias | yawn\ | 04:17 |
crythias | ORNMNTL | 04:23 |
pbmdawg | SUPRBWL | 04:24 |
perlDreamer | DETROIT | 04:24 |
crythias | GO STLRS | 04:24 |
perlDreamer | SEAHAWKS | 04:25 |
crythias | SEAHAWX | 04:25 |
pbmdawg | SEAHOGS | 04:25 |
crythias | BIG GAME | 04:25 |
pbmdawg | (sounds the same) | 04:25 |
perlDreamer | someone want to help me with snippets to fix a bug? | 04:26 |
crythias | kay | 04:26 |
pbmdawg | the bug is in assetproxy macro | 04:26 |
pbmdawg | well | 04:26 |
pbmdawg | sort of. | 04:26 |
perlDreamer | Not in snippet itself? | 04:26 |
crythias | oh. hrm. I also need to have 6.9.0.svn | 04:26 |
perlDreamer | no, it's in 6.8.5 | 04:27 |
pbmdawg | that's the only case I could think of that would have it put the <p></p> in there without the controls | 04:27 |
crythias | oh the ... | 04:27 |
crythias | it's not .pm.. it's the tinymce, likely. | 04:27 |
perlDreamer | it might be both AssetProxy and Snippet. | 04:28 |
perlDreamer | AssetProxy calls toggleToolbar. I'm guessing that turns off the toolbar | 04:28 |
crythias | gosh my laptop is silent with the new hd. | 04:28 |
perlDreamer | but then Snippet still adds the paragraph tags | 04:28 |
pbmdawg | crythias: did you get an acorn | 04:28 |
crythias | a what? | 04:28 |
pbmdawg | acorn hdd | 04:29 |
crythias | uh. no. was browsing and got the cheapest for my laptop. | 04:29 |
crythias | well, at least from this one vendor. | 04:29 |
crythias | 40gb for some $70 | 04:29 |
crythias | turns out I got a Hitachi travelstar to replace my ibm travelstar | 04:30 |
pbmdawg | how much papajohn's can you eat in 1 sitting | 04:30 |
pbmdawg | i used to be able to eat a whole large (pepperoni, bacon, extra cheese). now just 3/4 large. | 04:30 |
crythias | I was about to scream, but put it in, anyway, so far.. no more clicking. | 04:30 |
perlDreamer | UMMBACON | 04:31 |
crythias | oh, gosh, I don't know. if I wanted to , I could eat a whole, but I've been reducing my food intake, somewhat. | 04:31 |
crythias | just keep me away from sushi and dim sum. | 04:31 |
pbmdawg | I don't know what those are. | 04:31 |
perlDreamer | dim sum rocks | 04:31 |
crythias | aye. | 04:31 |
pbmdawg | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Hitachinotebookhd.jpg | 04:32 |
crythias | I go to a place called Bo LIngs | 04:32 |
@WRE | <pbmdawg> http://tinyurl.com/9h9v5 | 04:32 |
perlDreamer | I found the bug | 04:32 |
pbmdawg | k | 04:32 |
pbmdawg | crythias: is this what your old ibm disk drive looked like? | 04:33 |
pbmdawg | http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d7/IBM_old_hdd.jpg | 04:33 |
@WRE | <pbmdawg> http://tinyurl.com/dk88m | 04:34 |
perlDreamer | is AnyAsset->view ever called with args? | 04:34 |
pbmdawg | yeah | 04:34 |
pbmdawg | a few of the assets use it for special signals. | 04:34 |
crythias | no | 04:34 |
crythias | it looked like something else. said it was an ibm travelstar. | 04:34 |
crythias | in my inspiron 2500, it's the 6th hard drive to fail in the batch of 25 we bought 3 years ago | 04:35 |
crythias | all where ibm travelstars. | 04:35 |
crythias | where: were | 04:35 |
crythias | but I'm happy, now. silence + speed + size | 04:37 |
crythias | btw: links -g = fast, and creepy. | 04:39 |
pbmdawg | good fix colin | 04:39 |
perlDreamer | thx | 04:40 |
pbmdawg | is the reported avatar bug a duplicate? | 04:40 |
perlDreamer | probably, I haven't looked at it yet | 04:41 |
crythias | so, has JT screamed about the closing of old rfe's? | 04:41 |
perlDreamer | not that I've heard | 04:43 |
crythias | good. I'll just clean them all out :) | 04:44 |
perlDreamer | the new Avatar bug has different behavior from the one I fixed. But if he's using IE I'm betting that it's fixed. | 04:44 |
perlDreamer | the DataForm is seriously broken | 04:45 |
pbmdawg | i'll scream if you clean them all out! :) | 04:48 |
pbmdawg | yeah. the DataForm is almost as broken as the EventsCalendar. | 04:48 |
perlDreamer | are you telling me it's too early to upgrade? | 04:48 |
pbmdawg | yeah, if you have DataForms or Calendars. | 04:48 |
perlDreamer | haven't seen any calendar bugs | 04:49 |
pbmdawg | well | 04:52 |
crythias | HAK N COF | 04:52 |
pbmdawg | TRNHEDCOF | 04:57 |
crythias | BN PROBD | 04:59 |
pbmdawg | lol | 04:59 |
crythias | PREP H | 05:00 |
crythias | SML FNGR | 05:01 |
pbmdawg | HROIDS | 05:02 |
pbmdawg | LSRSRGY | 05:02 |
crythias | HM ROIDS | 05:02 |
crythias | brnd btt | 05:02 |
pbmdawg | HLTOSIS | 05:02 |
crythias | EYE GOUJ | 05:03 |
pbmdawg | THERACK | 05:03 |
crythias | NSL DRIP | 05:03 |
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crythias | awe | 05:03 |
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crythias | gmorning | 16:29 |
@pbmdawg | gmorning. | 16:57 |
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crythias | wow | 20:08 |
pbmdawg | wow? | 20:08 |
crythias | I can't believe that my hard drive on my laptop was what was slowing everything down. | 20:08 |
crythias | I mean, I can, but.. I didn't realize how bad. | 20:09 |
crythias | now, on the start of firefox, it's almost instantaneous. | 20:10 |
pbmdawg | FOXIERF | 20:15 |
crythias | heh | 20:15 |
crythias | THNDRBRD | 20:17 |
pbmdawg | THNDRFOX | 21:00 |
crythias | thats nice | 21:01 |
crythias | THNDRFYR | 21:01 |
crythias | LYTNGWLF | 21:01 |
pbmdawg | LITNGBUG | 21:02 |
crythias | CHOK LYN | 21:03 |
crythias | ROAD KLL | 21:04 |
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crythias | hey, len | 21:13 |
crythias | anatomicaly correct log | 21:15 |
lenthamen | hey crythias | 21:20 |
lenthamen | anatomicaly correct log ? | 21:20 |
pbmdawg | len | 21:23 |
pbmdawg | https://svn.webgui.org/svnweb/WebGUI%20SVN/revision?rev=796 | 21:24 |
@WRE | <pbmdawg> http://tinyurl.com/9ckka | 21:24 |
crythias | len: ren and stimpy | 21:26 |
crythias | niftiness | 21:27 |
crythias | It's log, log it's better than bad, it's good. | 21:28 |
lenthamen | k | 21:29 |
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perlDreamer | snapcount: you there? | 02:59 |
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crythias | hi | 03:06 |
crythias | bye | 03:06 |
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MrHairgrease | len | 16:33 |
MrHairgrease | do you know if mod_rewrite does its thing before or after the WebGUI handler is invoked? | 16:34 |
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lenthamen | Hey Martin | 17:06 |
lenthamen | I guess before. | 17:06 |
MrHairgrease | Well somehow rewrite rules that used to work on rewriting to index.pl don't seem to do their thing anymore now that webgui is a mod_perl handler | 17:07 |
lenthamen | because there's no index.pl... | 17:08 |
MrHairgrease | So I guessed mod_rewrite rwrites the uri after WebGUI has caught it | 17:08 |
MrHairgrease | Well the index.pl is not relevant in this case | 17:08 |
lenthamen | well, the thing is that WebGUI is a handler for the whole vhost, so requests always get passed to WebGUI. | 17:09 |
MrHairgrease | what I do is rewrite to a startpage based on the server_name | 17:09 |
MrHairgrease | something like | 17:10 |
MrHairgrease | RewriteCond %{SERVER_NAME} webforum.koornbeurs.nl$ [NC] | 17:10 |
MrHairgrease | RewriteRule ^/$ /webforum [L] | 17:10 |
lenthamen | Yeah I understand | 17:10 |
MrHairgrease | ok | 17:10 |
lenthamen | I also do that to redirect .com to /home_english | 17:10 |
lenthamen | that kind of stuff | 17:10 |
MrHairgrease | yeah | 17:10 |
MrHairgrease | and in your case it works on 6.8+? | 17:10 |
lenthamen | Not using 6.8 in prod yet. | 17:11 |
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MrHairgrease | ok | 17:12 |
MrHairgrease | maybe chanses knows | 17:12 |
pbmdawg | I'm here! | 17:12 |
MrHairgrease | chansen? | 17:12 |
MrHairgrease | hi matt | 17:12 |
pbmdawg | maybe I know. | 17:12 |
MrHairgrease | no I asked you already | 17:12 |
MrHairgrease | it's about the rewrite stuff on 68 | 17:12 |
pbmdawg | oh. | 17:12 |
pbmdawg | ask gerald | 17:13 |
MrHairgrease | gerald? | 17:13 |
pbmdawg | he knows apache better than the Apaches | 17:13 |
MrHairgrease | ok | 17:13 |
lenthamen | Martin have you had a look at the mod_rewrite logs ? | 17:15 |
MrHairgrease | yes and no | 17:15 |
MrHairgrease | sort of that is | 17:16 |
MrHairgrease | I have been very busy with other stuff | 17:16 |
MrHairgrease | I couldn't see anything wrong with loglevel 5 | 17:16 |
MrHairgrease | I'll have another look at it later this week. | 17:17 |
chansen | pong | 18:08 |
chansen | I guess it's not working because WebGUI shortcuts the trans handler by returning OK | 18:08 |
chansen | MrHairgrease: try commenting out that line | 18:09 |
MrHairgrease | mod_rewrite sits in the transhandler? | 18:09 |
chansen | IIRC yes | 18:09 |
MrHairgrease | ok will do | 18:09 |
MrHairgrease | moment please | 18:09 |
MrHairgrease | hmm, doesn't seem to work. | 18:11 |
lenthamen | Martin are you coming to amsterdam tomorrow night ? | 18:12 |
MrHairgrease | yeah | 18:12 |
MrHairgrease | free drinks and stuff ;) | 18:12 |
lenthamen | hehe, ok, will see you there than. | 18:12 |
MrHairgrease | what time is it again? | 18:12 |
lenthamen | starts at 17:30 | 18:12 |
MrHairgrease | ok | 18:12 |
MrHairgrease | i'll be there | 18:12 |
MrHairgrease | setting the trans handler to declined also doesn't work | 18:14 |
chansen | ok, i just checked, mod_rewrite does it's rewriting in several hooks, including ap_hook_translate_name | 18:25 |
chansen | try enabling mod_rewrite's log a level of 3 | 18:26 |
chansen | should give you some hints | 18:26 |
chansen | and try without WebGUI's trans handler | 18:28 |
MrHairgrease | ok I'll try that later this week | 18:35 |
MrHairgrease | thanks | 18:35 |
chansen | np :) | 18:35 |
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perlDreamer | crythias: there is medication to help with schizophrenia nowadays | 19:28 |
crythias | really? How do you know you don't get multiple doses? | 19:30 |
perlDreamer | well, if it works, one would think that you'd center around 1 personality | 19:30 |
perlDreamer | and I guess if you took too much it would leave you with 0 personality, and then you'd be an IRC bot :) | 19:31 |
crythias | heh | 19:31 |
perlDreamer | did you check out the doc change that I made to the Redirect Asset over the weekend? | 19:32 |
crythias | Headline: "User dies from overdose of Schizophrenic Medication. Family members of his 5 personalities gathered for support." | 19:32 |
perlDreamer | SCHIZDAD | 19:33 |
crythias | hrm? :) no... | 19:33 |
crythias | been otherwise occupied. | 19:33 |
crythias | ok. where did you edit help? | 19:34 |
crythias | wow. office svn is ancient. | 19:34 |
perlDreamer | It's the Asset_Redirect Help entry | 19:35 |
perlDreamer | and I did both branches | 19:35 |
perlDreamer | so either will work | 19:35 |
crythias | The Page Redirect Asset causes the user's browser to be redirected to another page. This will happen automatically if it is viewed standalone. If the Asset is viewed as part a Page Asset, or proxied via a macro, then nothing will happen | 19:36 |
perlDreamer | yup | 19:36 |
perlDreamer | that's it. | 19:36 |
crythias | it's almost a misnomer. | 19:37 |
crythias | The Page Redirect Asset is essentially a hyperlink that you can use in Navigation. | 19:37 |
perlDreamer | to take you to another page/site | 19:38 |
crythias | I think my sentence is clear(ish) about its purpose though. | 19:38 |
crythias | I think the redirection part is confusing. | 19:39 |
crythias | yes, it does that, but it's not inherently different from an a href except that it can show up in Navigation. | 19:39 |
perlDreamer | but unlike an HREF you don't have to get a page to make it work | 19:40 |
perlDreamer | there's no "source" to it | 19:40 |
crythias | because it's a url redirect if you give it out manually. | 19:40 |
perlDreamer | yes | 19:41 |
crythias | like tinyurl | 19:41 |
perlDreamer | yes | 19:41 |
crythias | interesting thing.. you could hide stuff in the url. | 19:41 |
crythias | redirect | 19:41 |
perlDreamer | sure | 19:42 |
perlDreamer | I think it would be great if JT made www.webgui.org/help redirect to the help index | 19:42 |
perlDreamer | ?op=viewHelpIndex | 19:42 |
perlDreamer | and I've been thinking about building a login link that is essentially ?op=auth;func=login (or whatever) | 19:43 |
perlDreamer | it's a front-end user way of doing Apache rename | 19:43 |
perlDreamer | but much heavier | 19:43 |
crythias | Have a few minutes? | 19:43 |
perlDreamer | yeah | 19:44 |
crythias | I have been working with someone who needed a solution for something. Basically, fill a dataform and use the dataform's values to populate a page. | 19:44 |
perlDreamer | WG version? | 19:45 |
crythias | not the entire page, but repeating text stuff. | 19:45 |
crythias | 6.7+ | 19:45 |
perlDreamer | 1 page/multiple pages | 19:45 |
crythias | 200 sites, | 19:45 |
crythias | grouped | 19:45 |
perlDreamer | I see two options | 19:45 |
perlDreamer | 1) Use the List view feature of the DataForm, and Proxy it onto all other sites | 19:46 |
crythias | the info from the dataform needs to filter for all the pages that belong to a site. | 19:46 |
perlDreamer | I don't understand that | 19:46 |
perlDreamer | anyway | 19:47 |
crythias | one wg instance, but these "sites" are under the uber umbrella. Sales, Communications, etc | 19:47 |
perlDreamer | each subsite pulls the same info from the same dataform? | 19:47 |
crythias | the problem is a) how to keep the information in tact for the pages that belong to the site in the department | 19:47 |
crythias | b) how to make it easy to insert the valid data exactly where it's needed. | 19:48 |
perlDreamer | what kind of information is it? | 19:48 |
crythias | unknown, but likely department head names, addresses, phone numbers. | 19:49 |
crythias | stuff that would be likely in a template. | 19:49 |
perlDreamer | and they want it centralized in 1 dataform to make it easy to manage | 19:49 |
crythias | maybe in a header or footer. | 19:49 |
crythias | yeah. | 19:49 |
crythias | and security for the siteadmins to edit only their own data. | 19:49 |
perlDreamer | Did you see the script that I posted over the weekend to WG's contrib area? | 19:49 |
perlDreamer | it takes a DataForm and translates it to a regular table inside the database | 19:50 |
perlDreamer | which makes it very easy to build SQLReports against | 19:50 |
crythias | ooh cool. | 19:50 |
perlDreamer | So now you only have to solve 1 problem, and that's the data editing problem | 19:51 |
perlDreamer | I think that can be done with multiple dataforms | 19:51 |
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perlDreamer | yo roy | 19:51 |
crythias | I worked a different angle. | 19:51 |
snapcount | yo | 19:51 |
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crythias | I created a macro that looked up the data... | 19:52 |
perlDreamer | snapcount: Don't know if Matt told you, but I can't duplicate any of the DataForm bugs | 19:52 |
perlDreamer | in 6.8.6 | 19:52 |
@snapcount | interesting | 19:52 |
@snapcount | I'm very concerned about those | 19:52 |
@snapcount | there are a couple posts on the boards about that from different people | 19:53 |
perlDreamer | crythias: that's a lighter weight solution than a full SQL report | 19:53 |
crythias | the problem is making the site match the info. | 19:53 |
crythias | I figured that out, too. but the client doesn't like it. | 19:53 |
perlDreamer | can you use the current URL for more information? | 19:54 |
crythias | that's my solution. 'cause otherwise I'd have to mess with the table. | 19:54 |
crythias | of all asset types | 19:54 |
perlDreamer | ug | 19:54 |
perlDreamer | client has a preference for end solution? | 19:55 |
perlDreamer | snapcount: unless they can give you step by step instructions for bug duplication or access to their site, I think it's going to be hard to diagnose those bug reports | 19:56 |
crythias | wants siteadmins cart blanche over url | 19:56 |
crythias | I'm reasonably certain that I have the best solution. | 19:57 |
@snapcount | I'm wondering if it's an ssl thing | 19:57 |
crythias | The problem is keeping the siteadmins within their realm of edit. | 19:57 |
perlDreamer | crythias: might have to use multiple dataforms | 19:58 |
crythias | why? | 19:58 |
crythias | and how will that help? | 19:58 |
perlDreamer | because there's no way in 1 dataform to tell who can edit which entries | 19:59 |
crythias | yes, but you can protect the dataform... | 19:59 |
perlDreamer | so then you need multiple dataforms for multiple editors | 19:59 |
crythias | and you can filter based upon a use profile | 19:59 |
crythias | user profile field | 19:59 |
crythias | let's say the dataform is custom. | 20:00 |
perlDreamer | custom how? | 20:00 |
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perlDreamer | like extended to allow per user data editing? | 20:00 |
crythias | well, could restrict dataset to edit based upon a user profile field. | 20:01 |
crythias | http://www.plainblack.com/?op=viewProfile;uid=2JfI1zjbxUsNfOoWy-rPwA | 20:01 |
@WRE | <crythias> http://tinyurl.com/avlct | 20:01 |
perlDreamer | then that would work, so long as editors are not allowed to edit their own profile field | 20:01 |
crythias | yeah, ok. | 20:01 |
crythias | my macro was based upon the first part of the page url and the field they want to retrieve. | 20:02 |
crythias | still, after all this mess, I'm just saying it's probably worth making all these changes in individual templates rather than fighting user silliness. | 20:03 |
crythias | even for 200 | 20:03 |
crythias | I can't guess from my macro which dataform/dataset to pull data from. | 20:03 |
crythias | and I'm not going to rely on the user to fill in the field in the macro. | 20:04 |
@snapcount | I'll be trying to get a 6.8.6 release out within the next couple of days | 20:06 |
@snapcount | anything anyone can do to help would be greatly appreciated | 20:06 |
crythias | gotta go. | 20:06 |
@snapcount | even if it's just confirming the bugs reported are actually bugs | 20:06 |
@snapcount | every little bit helps =) | 20:06 |
perlDreamer | I fixed a few over the weekend. I'll get busy with the docs, too. | 20:06 |
@snapcount | and if you can't help... pass it on to someone that can if you see them lurking around | 20:07 |
@snapcount | perlDreamer: thank you | 20:07 |
perlDreamer | I fixed an Avatar bug already, but it's worth testing 6.8 SVN with FireFox 1.5 to verify that it isn't a new bug. | 20:09 |
perlDreamer | But vitkovsky's IE bug for the Avatar should be fixed. | 20:09 |
@snapcount | ok... I'll check that out | 20:16 |
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crythias | howdy. | 01:11 |
crythias | fear leads to trembling. trembling leads to puking. puking leads to light headedness. lightheadedness leads to fainting. | 01:13 |
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snapcount | is anyone home!? | 02:48 |
snapcount | Lucy! I'm Home!!! | 02:48 |
pbmdawg | here. | 02:48 |
snapcount | tally one for the home team | 02:48 |
perlDreamer | yo | 02:48 |
snapcount | two | 02:48 |
snapcount | my god... we're on a roll | 02:49 |
perlDreamer | but only for a little bit | 02:49 |
snapcount | 1.5 | 02:49 |
perlDreamer | it that better? | 02:49 |
snapcount | still not bad | 02:49 |
perlDreamer | plus, I'm very lippy | 02:49 |
perlDreamer | 1.37 | 02:49 |
snapcount | lol | 02:49 |
snapcount | I have a MP2/Apache question | 02:49 |
* crythias is watching the aots chat feed. | 02:49 |
* pbmdawg wonders what aots is | 02:50 |
snapcount | ok | 02:50 |
crythias | attack of the show. | 02:50 |
crythias | g4tv. | 02:50 |
snapcount | so what does apache do when mp2 does this: | 02:50 |
snapcount | return Apache2::Const::DECLINED | 02:50 |
perlDreamer | goes to the next handler in the chain | 02:50 |
snapcount | I've searched and can't find the answer | 02:50 |
perlDreamer | go and read Geoff's MP2 presentations from the WUC. | 02:51 |
perlDreamer | great intro to MP2 | 02:51 |
snapcount | what is the next handler when that is being called in WebGUI.pm | 02:51 |
snapcount | in the request method | 02:51 |
pbmdawg | you can check | 02:51 |
pbmdawg | by asking apache to list the handlers | 02:51 |
snapcount | coool | 02:51 |
snapcount | how do you do that? | 02:52 |
snapcount | well, here is the issue at hand | 02:52 |
snapcount | I'm beating around the bush a tad | 02:52 |
snapcount | I can't figure out how to get MP2 to butt out when there is a request for a PHP page | 02:53 |
snapcount | Pre 6.8 this was easy | 02:53 |
snapcount | b/c you just did it with a rewrite rule | 02:53 |
snapcount | now, I'm scratching my head | 02:53 |
snapcount | PHP works if I turn MP2 off | 02:53 |
snapcount | and vice-versa | 02:53 |
crythias | http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/xxjnBQ36.html | 02:54 |
@WRE | <crythias> http://tinyurl.com/7w83l | 02:54 |
perlDreamer | inside WebGUI.pm, there is a subroutine called handler. | 02:54 |
snapcount | yes... been studying that one | 02:54 |
perlDreamer | have it DECLINE the request if it's for PHP | 02:54 |
crythias | you can turn off handler | 02:54 |
crythias | for urls | 02:54 |
perlDreamer | I think that's all you need to do | 02:54 |
snapcount | passthruUrls setting? | 02:54 |
crythias | yeah | 02:54 |
snapcount | it doesn't seem to work | 02:55 |
crythias | hrm. | 02:55 |
snapcount | when that happens, which instance of apache has the request | 02:55 |
snapcount | proxy or modperl | 02:55 |
snapcount | 80 || 81 | 02:55 |
crythias | you're on wre | 02:55 |
snapcount | yes | 02:55 |
crythias | that would be helpful to know | 02:55 |
snapcount | now you know =) | 02:56 |
crythias | or you stated it, and I'm being ignorant again. | 02:56 |
snapcount | no... I didn't | 02:56 |
snapcount | flame away | 02:56 |
snapcount | I guess that's the question | 02:56 |
snapcount | b/c I figured that DECLINE was what I needed | 02:56 |
snapcount | I need to know which apache gets the request | 02:57 |
snapcount | when MP2 returns a DECLINE | 02:57 |
snapcount | it's acting like it's going to mod_proxy | 02:57 |
perlDreamer | modperl | 02:57 |
perlDreamer | I think | 02:57 |
crythias | 81 | 02:57 |
snapcount | that would make sense | 02:57 |
snapcount | but it's not behaving that way | 02:57 |
snapcount | I need a simple test to see if DECLINE is working | 02:57 |
snapcount | w/o PHP | 02:57 |
snapcount | narrow the scope of the issue a little | 02:58 |
snapcount | I should be able to serve static content | 02:58 |
snapcount | if I use a passthruUrl right? | 02:58 |
snapcount | like a .gif | 02:58 |
crythias | think so | 02:58 |
snapcount | ok... where will apache look for the static content | 02:58 |
snapcount | in the document root? | 02:58 |
snapcount | of mod_perl apache | 02:58 |
snapcount | b/c I tried this and I got file not found errors in the apache logs | 02:59 |
snapcount | with no path | 02:59 |
snapcount | set the log level to debug | 02:59 |
* snapcount is having numerous issues today | 02:59 |
crythias | oh. | 02:59 |
snapcount | maybe I'm mal-nourished | 02:59 |
crythias | well, wait. | 02:59 |
crythias | don't forget that apache could do that for several reasons, including ALLOW, DENY issues on the folder | 03:00 |
snapcount | I didn't check that | 03:00 |
* snapcount slaps self with a large trout | 03:00 |
snapcount | what was that url you posted crythias? | 03:01 |
crythias | part of http://search.cpan.org/dist/mod_perl/docs/user/handlers/intro.pod | 03:01 |
@WRE | <crythias> http://tinyurl.com/ag79t | 03:01 |
snapcount | oh ok | 03:01 |
snapcount | thank you | 03:01 |
crythias | you're welcome :) | 03:01 |
snapcount | I'll check the perms and see if I can get a .gif to display | 03:01 |
snapcount | that should be a good step to getting this working | 03:02 |
snapcount | I'm so close I'm going insane | 03:02 |
snapcount | damn support requests =) | 03:02 |
crythias | yeah, well... I'm concerned about jay.phillz's filepile upload problem. | 03:02 |
snapcount | stay tuned for jubilation or cursing pending the outcoume | 03:02 |
snapcount | ehhh | 03:03 |
snapcount | bugs... | 03:03 |
crythias | I can't figure out why it's not working + not errors | 03:03 |
snapcount | that's all I wanted to work on today | 03:03 |
snapcount | and haven't touched a single one yet | 03:03 |
snapcount | is this in the public forums? | 03:03 |
crythias | http://www.plainblack.com/web_design_templates_and_themes/file-pile-uploads4../1#-gaWEwaI6hrUzxWe5AxAcA | 03:03 |
crythias | yeah | 03:03 |
@WRE | <crythias> http://tinyurl.com/8vrra | 03:03 |
crythias | but *I* know filepile works. | 03:04 |
snapcount | is there a bug report for it? or are we not sure there's a bug yet | 03:04 |
crythias | not sure there's a bug to report. | 03:04 |
snapcount | ok | 03:04 |
crythias | maybe it got zapped with a heart paddle. | 03:04 |
snapcount | FIRE | 03:04 |
snapcount | when I'm finished w/ support I'll be in bug search -n- destroy mode | 03:05 |
snapcount | if you're around later we can talk about it | 03:05 |
snapcount | try to figure it out | 03:05 |
crythias | :) | 03:05 |
snapcount | I want to get 6.8 stable | 03:05 |
crythias | except (sorry) I'll also be watching 24 | 03:05 |
crythias | in an hour. | 03:05 |
perlDreamer | I'd like you to get 6.8 stable, too | 03:05 |
snapcount | hey... priorities | 03:05 |
snapcount | perlDreamer: =) | 03:05 |
snapcount | ok... thx for the pointers | 03:06 |
crythias | meanwhile, I'll try to get flash running on my fresh FreeBSD 6.0 install | 03:06 |
crythias | on my laptop | 03:06 |
snapcount | be back in a bit | 03:06 |
crythias | 'kay | 03:07 |
crythias | freaky thing. | 03:07 |
perlDreamer | it is 6.7 | 03:07 |
crythias | I just realized that I have gobs of space on my laptop hd. I can now run WG on it. *gasp* | 03:07 |
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pbmdawg | GOBSY | 03:17 |
crythias | heh | 03:18 |
pbmdawg | DITSHIP | 03:18 |
crythias | FUM DUCK | 03:18 |
snapcount | SUPTSUX | 03:18 |
snapcount | Module Bug? Request filename is missing for URI | 03:19 |
* crythias is starting a new svn on the laptop... | 03:20 |
snapcount | what kind of error message is that! | 03:20 |
snapcount | it tells me nothing | 03:20 |
* snapcount convulses | 03:20 |
crythias | tinymce is taking | 03:20 |
crythias | too long | 03:20 |
snapcount | # An array of URLs that WebGUI should leave alone for normal | 03:22 |
snapcount | # processing by Apache. Anything that begins with these URLs | 03:22 |
snapcount | # will be entirely ignored by WebGUI | 03:22 |
snapcount | # passthruUrls => /icons, /documentation/pdf, /my-custom-application, /server-status, /perl-status | 03:22 |
snapcount | is that right? | 03:23 |
snapcount | shouldn't that be | 03:23 |
crythias | yeahbut | 03:23 |
snapcount | passthruUrls = something => list, list, list | 03:23 |
pbmdawg | Roy: what's your apache vhost look like | 03:23 |
snapcount | a text file =) | 03:23 |
snapcount | j/k | 03:23 |
snapcount | </dumbass> | 03:23 |
snapcount | one sec | 03:23 |
crythias | <location> directives | 03:24 |
snapcount | I shouldn't have to use those though | 03:25 |
snapcount | <VirtualHost *:81> | 03:25 |
snapcount | ServerName 192.168.0.8 | 03:25 |
snapcount | ServerName www.dev.com | 03:25 |
snapcount | DocumentRoot /data/domains/dev.com/www/public | 03:25 |
snapcount | SetHandler perl-script | 03:25 |
snapcount | PerlInitHandler WebGUI | 03:25 |
snapcount | PerlSetVar WebguiConfig www.dev.com.conf | 03:25 |
snapcount | </VirtualHost> | 03:25 |
crythias | http://www.plainblack.com/install/upgrade_help/directoryindex-problem-after-upgrade-to-v6.8/re-directoryindex-problem-after-upgrade-to-v6.8.5 | 03:25 |
@WRE | <crythias> http://tinyurl.com/ab23d | 03:25 |
snapcount | I saw that | 03:25 |
snapcount | it's only for indexes though | 03:25 |
snapcount | like index.php | 03:25 |
crythias | ok | 03:25 |
snapcount | thanks though | 03:25 |
snapcount | what about that config file entry | 03:26 |
snapcount | is it correct? | 03:26 |
snapcount | passthruUrls => url, url | 03:26 |
snapcount | that doesn't seem right | 03:26 |
crythias | maybe no > | 03:26 |
crythias | ? | 03:26 |
crythias | gimme a sec | 03:26 |
crythias | well, I'm in .svn in Operations | 03:27 |
pbmdawg | instead of PerlInitHandler, maybe try enclosing the equivalent APR api calls in <Perl> | 03:27 |
snapcount | you lost me matt | 03:27 |
snapcount | I'm a MP2 retard at this point | 03:27 |
pbmdawg | I'm a MP3 eater. | 03:28 |
snapcount | matt: do you know if that config file entry is correct? | 03:28 |
pbmdawg | yeah it's correct | 03:28 |
* crythias shuns mp4 | 03:28 |
snapcount | big arrow | 03:28 |
snapcount | instead of = | 03:28 |
snapcount | is right? | 03:28 |
crythias | finally got svn | 03:30 |
snapcount | woo hoo | 03:30 |
pbmdawg | no | 03:30 |
pbmdawg | should be = | 03:30 |
snapcount | passthruUrls = url, url, url | 03:30 |
pbmdawg | passThruUrls = something, other | 03:30 |
snapcount | ok... I'll try that | 03:31 |
snapcount | damn example | 03:31 |
snapcount | grr | 03:31 |
pbmdawg | if our profiler/tracer/debugger stored/outputted subroutine parameters, we could debug these things way more easily. | 03:32 |
crythias | What's the theory of JSON? | 03:33 |
crythias | and why can't the params be stored in a MySQL Table? | 03:33 |
snapcount | it works on Halloween and kills teenage girls | 03:33 |
pbmdawg | roy: ha | 03:33 |
crythias | yeah | 03:33 |
pbmdawg | crythias: JT, Roy, and I had a 2 hour in-person convo about that | 03:33 |
snapcount | that was fun | 03:34 |
crythias | well, I'm getting queried off list, as if I can make a difference or know. | 03:34 |
crythias | still, JSON seems to be silly. | 03:34 |
pbmdawg | it's a lot more faster and reliable than PlainConfig | 03:35 |
snapcount | the explanation I got | 03:35 |
pbmdawg | and likely faster than mysql. | 03:35 |
snapcount | is that it handles complex data structs better than PlainConfig | 03:35 |
pbmdawg | doesn't matter though; it's only parsed once. | 03:35 |
snapcount | like arrays, and hashes | 03:35 |
crythias | but ... what's the point and why would you *keep* handling ... yes | 03:35 |
snapcount | the theory is that the WRE Control Panel will be editing the config file | 03:36 |
crythias | it's only parsed once. it doesn't matter where the config params are stored. MySQL just makes it easier to manipulate. | 03:36 |
snapcount | not people | 03:36 |
crythias | and that changes how? | 03:37 |
snapcount | what are you referring to | 03:38 |
snapcount | what changes how? | 03:38 |
chansen | If it should not be editable by ppl, why not store a binary file instead? | 03:38 |
crythias | what difference does JSON make to the whole bit... | 03:38 |
chansen | config files are for human and should be as simple as possible | 03:38 |
crythias | digg ++ chansen | 03:38 |
snapcount | I don't know that the goal is to make it such that it can't be editable by people | 03:38 |
snapcount | like I said | 03:39 |
snapcount | JT told me he switched to JSON b/c it handles arrays,hashes better than PlainConfig | 03:39 |
snapcount | not as error prone | 03:39 |
chansen | I don't see the point, why not store perl data structures instead if you need that complex configs? | 03:40 |
crythias | yeah. | 03:40 |
chansen | and it's _alot_ faster | 03:40 |
snapcount | didn't you just argue that they should be editable by people? | 03:40 |
crythias | at least then you don't have to parse. | 03:40 |
snapcount | and simple? | 03:41 |
crythias | not quite. | 03:41 |
chansen | snapcount: I do, but i fail to see the reason for JSON in either case | 03:41 |
crythias | it's overhead. | 03:41 |
snapcount | overhead when? | 03:41 |
snapcount | when apache starts | 03:41 |
chansen | parsing | 03:41 |
snapcount | it's only read once | 03:41 |
chansen | is JS data structures easier to grok than perl structures? | 03:42 |
crythias | it's not hard to learn. | 03:42 |
crythias | and *gasp* it's not as if it's hard to make the examples work. | 03:42 |
snapcount | you can make that argument for either format | 03:43 |
chansen | JSON eq JS data structure | 03:43 |
snapcount | it's a matter of preferene | 03:43 |
snapcount | preference | 03:43 |
crythias | but wg is perl. | 03:43 |
snapcount | true | 03:44 |
crythias | wg isn't JS | 03:44 |
snapcount | I don't know why JT chose one over the other | 03:45 |
snapcount | I think his thinking is that it won't matter which one it is in the end | 03:45 |
snapcount | b/c he wants a control panel for editing the configs | 03:45 |
crythias | then put it in MySQL so we can have a real mgmt interface :) | 03:45 |
snapcount | it could change 1000x's from now to then | 03:45 |
snapcount | That may be a possibility | 03:46 |
snapcount | I'm sure he considered it | 03:46 |
snapcount | and decided not to use it for one reason or another | 03:46 |
snapcount | you'll have to ask him | 03:46 |
crythias | it's not as if speed is a critical factor in all this. | 03:46 |
chansen | It's definitively not a better idea to edit a config file on fs in a multiprocess/clustered environment | 03:47 |
chansen | MySQL ensures consistency thanks to ACID | 03:48 |
crythias | It's been suggested to me that all that's needed in the config is the login for the db. | 03:48 |
pbmdawg | chansen: how did you come to know so much | 03:49 |
snapcount | you guys both have good points | 03:49 |
snapcount | you should post your arguments to the dev list | 03:49 |
snapcount | kind of pointless to rant about it here | 03:50 |
chansen | pbmdawg: been in the business for a while :) | 03:50 |
crythias | good. so we can have "No" | 03:50 |
crythias | as a response | 03:50 |
pbmdawg | chansen: so, what are you, like 40? | 03:51 |
snapcount | so what are you suggesting? | 03:51 |
chansen | pbmdawg: 30 | 03:51 |
chansen | pbmdawg: started when I was 10 | 03:51 |
snapcount | JT is open to ideas | 03:51 |
snapcount | he says no alot | 03:51 |
snapcount | because he has already thought through a lot of the suggestions made | 03:51 |
crythias | :) | 03:51 |
snapcount | and found problems with them | 03:52 |
snapcount | but it's not as if he won't listen to a logical argument and consider things | 03:52 |
snapcount | he wants WG to be the best | 03:52 |
snapcount | he has no reason to shoot down valid ideas that are better | 03:52 |
crythias | yeah. I know. | 03:52 |
crythias | or I should know by now. | 03:53 |
snapcount | I just don't want you to be discouraged from presenting ideas b/c he's said no before | 03:53 |
crythias | btw ... installing my mod_perl2 via port | 03:53 |
snapcount | just think it through and present it in a sane way and make a clear case | 03:53 |
snapcount | is port like apt-get or yum? | 03:55 |
chansen | yes, but only source and usually more stable in my experience | 03:56 |
chansen | DarwinPorts++ # for image support | 03:57 |
snapcount | so there is no binary package mgmt in bsd | 03:57 |
snapcount | everything is compiled locally | 03:57 |
crythias | oh, yeah, you can get binaries | 03:57 |
snapcount | oh | 03:58 |
snapcount | I suppose I'll learn more about bsd when I get my mac | 03:58 |
crythias | it's just that sometimes it's better to compile versus what you have instead of what the binaries were compiled for | 03:58 |
snapcount | if they ever ship =) | 03:58 |
snapcount | ummkay | 03:59 |
snapcount | the passthruUrls setting is in the session | 03:59 |
snapcount | that's a plus | 03:59 |
snapcount | maybe we're making progress | 03:59 |
snapcount | okay... something is not right here | 04:00 |
snapcount | if I set a passthruUrl of /donkey | 04:00 |
pbmdawg | I think you don't specify the initial / | 04:00 |
snapcount | and goto http://mysite.com/donkey/file_doesn't exist.htm | 04:00 |
snapcount | I shouldn't get the wg not found page | 04:00 |
snapcount | I'll try that | 04:01 |
snapcount | I'm going of the example in the WebGUI.conf.original | 04:01 |
snapcount | but it was wrong once already | 04:01 |
snapcount | so hey | 04:01 |
snapcount | what the hell | 04:01 |
crythias | why shouldn't you get the not found. | 04:01 |
snapcount | b/c anything beginning with that url | 04:01 |
snapcount | is ignored | 04:01 |
snapcount | it's not handled by webgui at all | 04:01 |
crythias | 404 is in httpd.conf | 04:02 |
snapcount | no, I was talking about the wg default page | 04:03 |
snapcount | not a 404 | 04:03 |
crythias | (20:59:50) snapcount: I shouldn't get the wg not found page | 04:03 |
snapcount | yep | 04:03 |
snapcount | the wg not found page | 04:03 |
snapcount | *wg* | 04:03 |
snapcount | =) | 04:03 |
crythias | pb.com wg or ...? | 04:03 |
snapcount | home | 04:04 |
snapcount | that's what it is by default | 04:04 |
snapcount | on a webgui site | 04:04 |
crythias | ok. | 04:04 |
snapcount | this is such a horrible way to communicate | 04:04 |
pbmdawg | that's the truth. | 04:04 |
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snapcount | we need a videconferencing solution | 04:04 |
crythias | ok | 04:04 |
snapcount | but then we couldn't work in our underware | 04:05 |
chansen | force everybody to use a mac, ichat and isight ;) | 04:06 |
snapcount | that doesn't solve the working in our underware problem =) | 04:07 |
chansen | well, you could point the camera at the tv ;) | 04:09 |
snapcount | hehe | 04:09 |
snapcount | yeah... that is one solution | 04:09 |
chansen | or just do audio, what i do when my mother calls me at inappropriate times | 04:10 |
snapcount | whoa | 04:10 |
snapcount | that's kinda freaky | 04:10 |
snapcount | son of a bitch | 04:27 |
snapcount | either I'm using this config file incorrectly | 04:27 |
snapcount | or this thing is broken | 04:27 |
snapcount | me thinks the latter | 04:27 |
snapcount | a little debug code reveals the only url being checked in that foreach | 04:28 |
snapcount | is extras | 04:28 |
snapcount | none of my urls for skipping are being listed | 04:28 |
snapcount | ya know | 04:47 |
snapcount | damn how irritating is that | 04:47 |
snapcount | it's a bug | 04:47 |
snapcount | and it's related to PlainConfig | 04:47 |
snapcount | how ironic | 04:47 |
snapcount | if you pass a single pass thru url, it's not read as an array | 04:48 |
snapcount | so, we have to account for the value being a scalar, or an array to accomodate | 04:48 |
snapcount | hours of my life wasted | 04:48 |
crythias | oh my word | 04:48 |
* snapcount beats head into wall | 04:48 |
crythias | ACK! | 04:49 |
snapcount | lions, tigers, bears, oh my word! | 04:49 |
snapcount | err | 04:49 |
snapcount | something like that | 04:49 |
crythias | so sorry | 04:49 |
crythias | dumy | 04:49 |
snapcount | good one | 04:49 |
crythias | that is... passthru dummy | 04:49 |
snapcount | you're losing me | 04:50 |
* snapcount drifts further and further away | 04:50 |
crythias | make a dummy url as an option | 04:50 |
snapcount | yeah but that sucks | 04:50 |
crythias | yeah you're right. | 04:50 |
snapcount | then that url can never be used | 04:50 |
snapcount | and god knows | 04:50 |
snapcount | someone will want to use the one I pick | 04:50 |
snapcount | =) | 04:50 |
crythias | so make it $$ | 04:50 |
snapcount | a;lkjf;akjf;kaj;n;akkje;kjre | 04:50 |
crythias | yeah | 04:50 |
snapcount | I tried to make a page called a;lkjf;akjf;kaj;n;akkje;kjre and it doesn't work | 04:51 |
snapcount | I think it's a bug | 04:51 |
crythias | pl8sholder | 04:51 |
snapcount | only_stupid_people_would_name_this_as_a_page | 04:51 |
crythias | redloh_ecalp | 04:51 |
snapcount | haha | 04:52 |
snapcount | I love those | 04:52 |
crythias | this is direct flip | 04:52 |
snapcount | I can finally answer this poor soles support request | 04:52 |
snapcount | er | 04:52 |
snapcount | souls | 04:52 |
snapcount | hehe | 04:53 |
crythias | japloy-aceld | 04:53 |
snapcount | ooh | 04:53 |
crythias | can't use > | 04:53 |
snapcount | a word jumble | 04:53 |
crythias | no.. | 04:53 |
crythias | *THAT* is my upside down backwards font | 04:54 |
snapcount | ahh i c | 04:54 |
snapcount | you have a font that does that? | 04:54 |
crythias | no. | 04:54 |
snapcount | are you *serious* | 04:54 |
snapcount | oh | 04:54 |
crythias | I just use arial | 04:54 |
snapcount | that would be so bad ass | 04:54 |
crythias | duh | 04:54 |
snapcount | haha | 04:54 |
snapcount | what was I thinking | 04:54 |
crythias | hee | 04:55 |
crythias | le!je | 04:55 |
crythias | 24 was eh until the last 5 minutes | 05:00 |
snapcount | really | 05:05 |
snapcount | I'm waiting for the DVD set to come out for this season | 05:05 |
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lenthamen | Martin ? | 15:14 |
MrHairgrease | len | 15:17 |
MrHairgrease | whazzup | 15:17 |
lenthamen | Have you been to the FOSDEM meeting before ? | 15:18 |
MrHairgrease | only once | 15:18 |
MrHairgrease | I think in 2003 | 15:18 |
lenthamen | ok. Is it worth it ? | 15:18 |
MrHairgrease | well | 15:18 |
MrHairgrease | It was ok to see Koen advertsing WebGUI to RMS | 15:18 |
MrHairgrease | especially the response of mr stallman was fun | 15:19 |
MrHairgrease | but it didn't change my life | 15:19 |
MrHairgrease | essentially it's a bunch of nerds in a bit of a smudgy university with really disgusting toilets | 15:19 |
MrHairgrease | I went to some lectures | 15:20 |
MrHairgrease | and they were ok | 15:20 |
MrHairgrease | but not of real interrest to me | 15:20 |
lenthamen | ok.... The entrance is for free | 15:20 |
lenthamen | maybe that's why | 15:20 |
MrHairgrease | too shallow | 15:20 |
MrHairgrease | yeah probably | 15:20 |
MrHairgrease | for instance | 15:20 |
MrHairgrease | there was a talk about firebird | 15:20 |
lenthamen | There's also the SANE conference in Delft. | 15:21 |
MrHairgrease | whats that | 15:21 |
MrHairgrease | the acronym ring a bell | 15:21 |
lenthamen | that must be pretty good, but the entrance is really expensive. | 15:21 |
lenthamen | http://www.sane.nl/ | 15:21 |
lenthamen | There's a perl workshop | 15:21 |
lenthamen | http://www.sane.nl/sane2006/perl-workshop.html | 15:22 |
@WRE | <lenthamen> http://tinyurl.com/8alfh | 15:22 |
MrHairgrease | the fee is not for free | 15:23 |
MrHairgrease | but also not absurd compared to other conferences | 15:23 |
MrHairgrease | I can go for only 130 euro's | 15:24 |
MrHairgrease | just for being a student | 15:24 |
lenthamen | yeah. For me cost 450 euro | 15:25 |
lenthamen | that's quite a lot. | 15:25 |
MrHairgrease | and an additional 95 for the perl workshop | 15:25 |
MrHairgrease | I know I won't go | 15:25 |
MrHairgrease | better spend my money on booze, chicks and rock'n'roll | 15:26 |
lenthamen | hehe | 15:26 |
MrHairgrease | ok chick not chicks | 15:26 |
MrHairgrease | she won't aloow extra women on my side | 15:26 |
MrHairgrease | too bad for me I guess =) | 15:26 |
lenthamen | that's old fashioned.... | 15:26 |
lenthamen | ;) | 15:27 |
MrHairgrease | yeah | 15:27 |
MrHairgrease | you know Dutch women. | 15:27 |
MrHairgrease | btw. Marc is also comming to the wossa borrel | 15:27 |
lenthamen | Did you see the WebGUI::PerformanceProfiler ? | 15:27 |
lenthamen | who's marc ? | 15:27 |
MrHairgrease | Marc is our new test guy | 15:28 |
MrHairgrease | you probably saw him at the euro wuc | 15:28 |
lenthamen | ok. | 15:28 |
lenthamen | might be. | 15:28 |
MrHairgrease | I have seen a bit of the profiler | 15:28 |
MrHairgrease | you rock man | 15:28 |
MrHairgrease | injecting code in subs | 15:28 |
lenthamen | How cool that is :) | 15:29 |
MrHairgrease | I never thought I would ever play with software using typeglobs | 15:29 |
MrHairgrease | did you read perlguts btw? | 15:29 |
lenthamen | nope. | 15:29 |
lenthamen | There's a chapter on type globs in latest "Programming Perl" | 15:29 |
MrHairgrease | edition 3? | 15:30 |
MrHairgrease | my copy is @ procolix so I cannot look it up right now | 15:30 |
MrHairgrease | but I'll belive you | 15:30 |
MrHairgrease | seen this | 15:31 |
MrHairgrease | http://virtualthreads.blogspot.com/2006/02/understanding-memory-usage-on-linux.html | 15:31 |
@WRE | <MrHairgrease> http://tinyurl.com/dnd9d | 15:31 |
lenthamen | Sorry, it is in Advanced Perl Programming, 2nd edition (2005) | 15:31 |
lenthamen | I know the wrong reporting of VM usage on Linux. | 15:32 |
MrHairgrease | haven't got that one | 15:32 |
MrHairgrease | ok | 15:32 |
lenthamen | Can mail it to you if you like. | 15:32 |
MrHairgrease | yeah sure | 15:33 |
MrHairgrease | why not | 15:33 |
lenthamen | hold on. | 15:33 |
* MrHairgrease is holding on | 15:33 |
* MrHairgrease almost looses grip | 15:33 |
lenthamen | sent. | 15:34 |
MrHairgrease | .chm? | 15:34 |
MrHairgrease | what kind of format is that? | 15:34 |
lenthamen | I'm really waiting for a good book on mod_perl2. | 15:34 |
lenthamen | windows help format. | 15:35 |
MrHairgrease | i run linux | 15:35 |
lenthamen | Not sure if you can open it on linux. | 15:35 |
MrHairgrease | no worries | 15:35 |
MrHairgrease | I'll live | 15:35 |
lenthamen | Check this: http://xchm.sourceforge.net/ | 15:36 |
MrHairgrease | yeah, i was also googling | 15:37 |
MrHairgrease | I'm checking my package manager first | 15:37 |
MrHairgrease | more easier so to say | 15:37 |
MrHairgrease | bingo | 15:39 |
MrHairgrease | thanks | 15:41 |
lenthamen | Do you need "Perl Best Practises" as well ? | 15:57 |
MrHairgrease | We have that @ procolix already, but a digital copy won't hurt | 15:57 |
MrHairgrease | zap it over | 15:57 |
lenthamen | its on its way. | 15:59 |
MrHairgrease | yes! | 16:00 |
MrHairgrease | hebbes | 16:10 |
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snapcount | Good Morning Vietnam!!!!!!!!!!!! | 17:01 |
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snapcount | oompa loompa doopety doo | 17:57 |
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pbmdawg | bibbity bobbity boo | 18:27 |
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perlDreamer | how goes the debug, snapcount? | 19:17 |
pbmdawg | snapcount is counting snaps in class | 19:23 |
perlDreamer | one | 19:27 |
perlDreamer | two | 19:27 |
perlDreamer | three | 19:27 |
perlDreamer | four | 19:56 |
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crythias | what's new? | 21:10 |
perlDreamer | as far as I can tell, not a whole lot | 21:10 |
perlDreamer | everyone must be busy hacking | 21:10 |
* crythias passes ricolla around. | 21:11 |
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crythias | you know what I'd love to see in FireFox? A side by side tab. | 22:55 |
perlDreamer | so we can each see how much we spent? | 22:56 |
crythias | nah. | 22:56 |
crythias | sometimes I'm bouncing between two sites using one to provide info to the other. | 22:56 |
crythias | tabs stink for that, frankly. | 22:56 |
perlDreamer | I use the bindkeys to jump between tabs | 22:56 |
crythias | yeah, I suppose I could open in new window.. | 22:56 |
crythias | but I want to see both in the same window, side by side. | 22:57 |
perlDreamer | that would be a nice feature | 22:57 |
perlDreamer | isn't there some extension that does that? | 22:57 |
crythias | wish there was. it's not intuitively named if there is. | 22:57 |
crythias | but I'm thinking that I might supplant it by simply providing myself a frame split page that will take (at least) one side via http_referal | 22:58 |
crythias | take a button... | 23:00 |
crythias | like del.icio.us post | 23:00 |
crythias | javascript:location.href='http://del.icio.us/crythias?v=3&url='+encodeURIComponent(location.href)+'&title='+encodeURIComponent(document.title) | 23:00 |
crythias | which, on the surface, is a sql injection waiting to happen. | 23:01 |
crythias | ooh. | 23:12 |
crythias | I know... I can get sbsoogle.com | 23:13 |
pbmdawg | "read the gotcha" | 23:56 |
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pbmdawg | we should rename WebGUI to "read the gotcha" | 23:57 |
perlDreamer | it would help | 23:57 |
perlDreamer | it would help more if it displayed those pages the first time every admin logged in after an upgrade :) | 23:57 |
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perlDreamer | or, we could have a little javascript pop-up: | 00:08 |
perlDreamer | Have you read the gotchas.txt file yet? We broke a bunch of things in the release that you need to fix. | 00:08 |
perlDreamer | It would be internationalized, of course | 00:08 |
* snapcount laughs like pee-wee herman | 00:14 |
* pbmdawg smacks Roy like pee-wee herman | 00:14 |
perlDreamer | he does have a point | 00:15 |
@snapcount | who he be | 00:15 |
perlDreamer | the only thing worse than creating reams of documentation is trying to force people to read it | 00:15 |
perlDreamer | he be de dawg-Man | 00:16 |
@snapcount | word? | 00:16 |
@snapcount | oh snap | 00:16 |
@snapcount | or something | 00:16 |
@snapcount | </ebonics> | 00:16 |
perlDreamer | <jive> | 00:16 |
perlDreamer | how goes the debug? | 00:16 |
@snapcount | like the AIrplane movie | 00:16 |
@snapcount | excuse me sir | 00:16 |
@snapcount | I speak Jive | 00:16 |
@snapcount | maybe I can help | 00:16 |
@snapcount | great stuff... | 00:17 |
@snapcount | debug? | 00:17 |
@snapcount | like bug fixing core | 00:17 |
perlDreamer | You signed up to fix virtually bug in SF | 00:17 |
perlDreamer | yeah, core fixin's | 00:17 |
@snapcount | yeah... apparently I also signed up to answer every support request that PB receives | 00:17 |
pbmdawg | darn right | 00:17 |
perlDreamer | newbie! | 00:18 |
@snapcount | so I haven't even started | 00:18 |
@snapcount | newb | 00:18 |
@snapcount | NEWBIE | 00:18 |
perlDreamer | LOWMAN | 00:18 |
@snapcount | yeah | 00:18 |
@snapcount | I'm pretty much JT's bitch now | 00:18 |
pbmdawg | Tina! eat your food! | 00:22 |
pbmdawg | NUBE | 00:22 |
@snapcount | No Napolean... I'm training to be a cage fighter. | 00:22 |
@snapcount | man... I could sure go for some Papa Johns right now | 00:31 |
@snapcount | mmmm | 00:32 |
pbmdawg | don't tempt me | 00:33 |
perlDreamer | is it really that good? | 00:52 |
pbmdawg | unbelievably good. | 00:52 |
@snapcount | duh colin, duh | 00:53 |
perlDreamer | better than Pizza Hut | 00:53 |
@snapcount | gah | 00:53 |
@snapcount | by *far* | 00:53 |
@snapcount | mmm and desert pizza | 00:53 |
perlDreamer | better than Round Table? | 00:53 |
@snapcount | I don't know what round table is | 00:53 |
perlDreamer | ttp://www.roundtablepizza.com/ | 00:54 |
@snapcount | but probably a safe bet that papa johns is superior | 00:54 |
@snapcount | papa johns is like the borg | 00:54 |
@snapcount | it conquers all | 00:56 |
perlDreamer | Your stomach and wallet will adapt to service us. We are the Papa Johns. | 01:15 |
@snapcount | nice | 01:15 |
@snapcount | I like that | 01:15 |
perlDreamer | you can quote me | 01:15 |
perlDreamer | I'm a royalty free kind of guy | 01:15 |
@snapcount | copy left | 01:15 |
@snapcount | creative commons type eh | 01:15 |
perlDreamer | pretty much | 01:16 |
@snapcount | or are you a | 01:16 |
@snapcount | no rights reserved one | 01:16 |
perlDreamer | GPL vs BSD? | 01:16 |
@snapcount | I don't know the diff between the two honestly | 01:16 |
@snapcount | I'm just being silly | 01:16 |
perlDreamer | you summed them up really well | 01:16 |
perlDreamer | copyleft is use of copyright to promote free use | 01:16 |
perlDreamer | that's GPL to a T | 01:17 |
@snapcount | ok... makes sense | 01:17 |
perlDreamer | BSD says, "Here, it's yours" | 01:17 |
perlDreamer | "but don't remove the label" | 01:17 |
@snapcount | cool | 01:17 |
* snapcount knowledge++ | 01:17 |
perlDreamer | ++$snapcount | 01:17 |
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@snapcount | holy crap | 01:30 |
@snapcount | support is caught up | 01:30 |
perlDreamer | woohoo! | 01:30 |
@snapcount | that gives me 1.5 hours for bug fixen! | 01:30 |
@snapcount | yee haw!! | 01:30 |
perlDreamer | DataForm? | 01:30 |
@snapcount | I don't know where to begin | 01:31 |
@snapcount | there are so many | 01:31 |
perlDreamer | 2 | 01:31 |
@snapcount | 2? | 01:31 |
perlDreamer | dataform bugs | 01:31 |
@snapcount | oh... two dataform bugs | 01:31 |
@snapcount | I was speaking to the bugs in general | 01:31 |
perlDreamer | yeah | 01:31 |
perlDreamer | there are a lot | 01:31 |
@snapcount | that's a big one though | 01:31 |
@snapcount | I think I'll wait till later tonight or tommorow to start that one | 01:32 |
@snapcount | when I don't have other commitments that will interrupt the process | 01:32 |
@snapcount | I'm gonna try to pick off some easy ones | 01:32 |
perlDreamer | The Date > 2040 should be an easy one :) | 01:35 |
perlDreamer | and the passThru one is real easy, 11 character fix | 01:36 |
perlDreamer | and it won't happen in 6.9 | 01:36 |
@snapcount | yeah b/c of JSON | 01:36 |
@snapcount | but don't say that too loud | 01:36 |
@snapcount | or Colin will start flaming you =) | 01:37 |
perlDreamer | huh? | 01:37 |
perlDreamer | has he got something against JSON? | 01:37 |
@snapcount | oh god | 01:37 |
@snapcount | please don't go there... | 01:37 |
pbmdawg | Colin? | 01:37 |
@snapcount | you can ask him if you dare | 01:37 |
@snapcount | err Gerald | 01:37 |
@snapcount | I'm an idiot | 01:37 |
perlDreamer | thanks | 01:37 |
@snapcount | don't you love it when someone is addressing you about yourself in the third person | 01:38 |
crythias | JSON is lame. | 01:38 |
crythias | :) | 01:38 |
@snapcount | I love this room... you guys make me laugh my ass off | 01:39 |
perlDreamer | plop | 01:39 |
crythias | heh | 01:39 |
perlDreamer | hey, more room for Papa Johns! | 01:39 |
* crythias has his order on perpetual refresh. | 01:39 |
crythias | JSON wields a big machete. | 01:40 |
perlDreamer | It must be dull because you said JSON is lame. | 01:41 |
crythias | snicker snack, snicker snack and through and through. | 01:41 |
crythias | vorpal blade | 01:42 |
perlDreamer | snapcount, would you mind if I work on the profileField = 0 bug? | 01:45 |
* crythias shakes it like a polaroid picture. I'... I'm just bein' honest. | 01:47 |
@snapcount | no | 01:50 |
@snapcount | go for it | 01:50 |
@snapcount | assign as many as you'd like to yourself | 01:50 |
@snapcount | please, I'm begging you | 01:50 |
@snapcount | I'll buy you a beer at the WUC | 01:51 |
@snapcount | (cheap beer) | 01:51 |
perlDreamer | I owe you a beer anyway | 01:51 |
crythias | when's next? | 01:51 |
perlDreamer | for a late night server fix | 01:51 |
@snapcount | oh yeah | 01:51 |
@snapcount | crythias: later this year =) | 01:52 |
crythias | heh. | 01:52 |
perlDreamer | September, isn't it? | 01:52 |
@snapcount | I could tell you | 01:52 |
@snapcount | but I'd have to kill you | 01:52 |
perlDreamer | How much time have you been spending with JT? | 01:52 |
crythias | oh, that's ok. It's not like anyone would want to see me anyway. | 01:52 |
crythias | *again* | 01:52 |
perlDreamer | hogwash | 01:53 |
@snapcount | I'd like to meet you | 01:53 |
perlDreamer | if you're not there, we're coming to get you | 01:53 |
@snapcount | as far as seeing you again | 01:53 |
crythias | I'm being facetious. | 01:53 |
@snapcount | well, we'll see =) | 01:53 |
perlDreamer | that little hurricane thing that you went through... | 01:53 |
perlDreamer | it's nothing like us when we're bent out of shape | 01:53 |
perlDreamer | we'll rewrite your operating system | 01:54 |
crythias | heh. | 01:54 |
crythias | No, I'm definitely going to go to the next WUC, even if it means *gulp* I'll buy my own ticket. | 01:54 |
perlDreamer | since Papa John's uses WebGUI, we'll put code like: | 01:54 |
perlDreamer | If ($username eq 'crythia') { | 01:54 |
crythias | well, I don't want to be held to that. | 01:54 |
crythias | If I have to pay, I'm probably not going to be at my current job. | 01:55 |
@snapcount | I wish Papa Johns used WG | 01:55 |
perlDreamer | push @order, 'double tuna with jalapenos and peanut butter'; | 01:55 |
perlDreamer | } | 01:55 |
@snapcount | that would make them even more superior | 01:55 |
crythias | ahhh yeah... | 01:55 |
crythias | I'm still thinkin' that I want to make that side by side thing. | 01:56 |
perlDreamer | I found it | 01:57 |
crythias | oh? | 01:57 |
perlDreamer | (defined $u && $u->profileField($properties->{name}) | 01:57 |
crythias | oh. | 01:57 |
crythias | :) | 01:57 |
perlDreamer | anytime we store data that is false, it will fall through to the bottom | 01:57 |
perlDreamer | past the user profile field check | 01:57 |
perlDreamer | past the session check (with the same bug) | 01:57 |
perlDreamer | re lines 145-153 in ProfileField.pm, anyone see a problem with adding defined before all value checks? | 01:59 |
crythias | is necessary? | 02:01 |
perlDreamer | if you store the value 0, then the check fails even that the data is valid | 02:01 |
perlDreamer | I'm pretty sure it's necessary | 02:01 |
crythias | will break stuff? | 02:01 |
perlDreamer | that's what I'm askin'. | 02:01 |
crythias | will it take longer to parse? | 02:02 |
perlDreamer | probably. instead of just checking the veracity of the value, it has to check for definedness and then check the veracity of the return value of defined | 02:02 |
crythias | will anyone notice the difference in speed? Is there any other way to do it? will it still parse proper? | 02:03 |
perlDreamer | it will still parse, and I doubt the speed difference is humanly perceptible | 02:03 |
crythias | just do it, as long as it'll provide the negative parse proper. | 02:05 |
perlDreamer | I'll say that you said it was okay in the commit log :) | 02:05 |
crythias | who the heck am I, anyway? :) it's gotta be fixed, right? :) | 02:06 |
perlDreamer | j/k | 02:06 |
perlDreamer | You're WebGUI's best answer man. | 02:09 |
crythias | heh | 02:09 |
perlDreamer | Doctor of Discussion Boards | 02:09 |
perlDreamer | Friar of FAQ | 02:09 |
perlDreamer | snapcount: need someone to make an executive decision on a new bug | 02:16 |
@snapcount | dok | 02:51 |
perlDreamer | DataForm security bug on SF is complaining that default group to view dataform entries is Everyone. | 02:52 |
@snapcount | my decision is to authorize the release of nuclear weapons | 02:52 |
@snapcount | yeah... it was the same way before that feature existed | 02:52 |
@snapcount | that's why it was added so the security could be set | 02:52 |
perlDreamer | I'll let you close it with an appropriate business like answer then :) | 02:52 |
@snapcount | just say, "we have authorized the release of nuclear weapons" | 02:53 |
@snapcount | I'll close that one | 02:53 |
@snapcount | any other decisions, I'd like to blow some more stuff up if possible | 02:54 |
perlDreamer | I had another question but I forgot it. | 02:54 |
perlDreamer | must not have been too important | 02:55 |
@snapcount | well, you see Colin... there are the birds and there are the bees | 02:55 |
@snapcount | I'm hyper on chocolate chip cookies and mountain dew with a splash of chicken and dumplings | 02:56 |
@snapcount | forgive my insolence | 02:56 |
perlDreamer | nothing insolent about sex | 02:56 |
@snapcount | sex? what are you talking about | 02:56 |
@snapcount | I was talking about birds and bees | 02:56 |
@snapcount | you know... mammals and insects | 02:57 |
@snapcount | WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO | 02:57 |
perlDreamer | have some more Mountain Dew | 02:57 |
@snapcount | ok | 02:57 |
@snapcount | I'm cut off | 02:57 |
@snapcount | gotta go see my better half for a while | 02:57 |
perlDreamer | you married? | 02:57 |
@snapcount | nah | 02:57 |
@snapcount | too young for that =) | 02:57 |
crythias | he's got to go to the bathroom | 02:57 |
perlDreamer | listen, here, sonny | 02:57 |
@snapcount | haha | 02:58 |
@snapcount | sorry, no disrespect | 02:58 |
@snapcount | crythias: when I go there I'm usually seeing a man about a horse | 02:58 |
@snapcount | or as I like to say | 02:58 |
perlDreamer | shaking the dew off your lily | 02:58 |
@snapcount | dropping the kids off at the pool =) | 02:58 |
perlDreamer | copping a squat | 02:58 |
perlDreamer | doin' the potty dance | 02:58 |
crythias | making a deposit at the porcelain bank | 02:58 |
perlDreamer | (similar to the Neutron Dance) | 02:59 |
@snapcount | wow | 02:59 |
perlDreamer | and that's with no Mountain Dew | 02:59 |
@snapcount | alright... I will talk to you guys later | 02:59 |
@snapcount | peace out homies! | 02:59 |
crythias | doin the hershey squirts | 02:59 |
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perlDreamer | I think you squirted him out of the room! | 02:59 |
crythias | hee | 03:01 |
perlDreamer | and then perlDreamer brings the SVN server down to its knees | 03:01 |
crythias | ph, no. | 03:02 |
perlDreamer | it doesn't like it when I do merges | 03:02 |
crythias | sigh | 03:02 |
crythias | cpan installs take for ever | 03:03 |
crythias | well, one after another... | 03:03 |
perlDreamer | good night, all | 03:07 |
crythias | gnite | 03:07 |
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snapcount | I'm not really here | 03:57 |
snapcount | crythias: what was that site with the free website templates again? | 03:57 |
crythias | www.oswd.org | 03:57 |
snapcount | thanks | 03:57 |
snapcount | you rock | 03:57 |
crythias | i try | 03:58 |
crythias | snapcount: I've been also trying to assist nbcccorp | 04:13 |
snapcount | yeah | 04:26 |
snapcount | that one's brewing in my mind | 04:26 |
crythias | think it's a preload.perl thing. | 04:26 |
crythias | I'm chatting with him... SDIJason | 04:26 |
snapcount | he's using the WRE though | 04:27 |
crythias | yeah | 04:27 |
snapcount | those issues shouldn't exist | 04:27 |
snapcount | the wre works | 04:27 |
crythias | and I told him to upgrade to 6.8.0 before 6.8.4 | 04:27 |
crythias | or 685 | 04:27 |
snapcount | I'm going to dup his environment and try the upgrade myself | 04:28 |
snapcount | I don't know how else to troubleshoot it | 04:29 |
crythias | where would modperl... | 04:29 |
crythias | [Tue Feb 07 17:59:16 2006] [error] [client 10.0.2.75] failed to resolve handler `ModPerl::Registry::handler': Can't locate ModPerl/Registry/handler.pm | 04:31 |
crythias | where is this asked? | 04:31 |
snapcount | this perl module should be included in the latest version of the wre | 04:35 |
snapcount | It's probably called by WebGUI.pm | 04:35 |
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pbmdawg | lots of activity in the webgui world today... | 18:51 |
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crythias | hello | 19:29 |
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crythias | The duck, it does quack. | 21:54 |
crythias | Echoes, they cacaphonize. | 21:54 |
crythias | I need new eardrums. | 21:54 |
pbmdawg | Next Generation | 22:01 |
crythias | yes...? | 22:02 |
crythias | Matthew! Long time no talk. | 22:02 |
* crythias is having fun with XWindows on Cygwin from home via putty | 22:03 |
crythias | wowsers | 22:09 |
crythias | lots of posts | 22:10 |
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crythias | howdy | 22:48 |
@snapcount | ho | 22:48 |
@snapcount | it's mr. hankey | 22:48 |
crythias | xtopher asks a lot | 22:48 |
crythias | :) | 22:48 |
@snapcount | no kidding | 22:48 |
@snapcount | i just saw that... thought I was done | 22:48 |
@snapcount | like a freakin' support avalanche | 22:48 |
crythias | "NO" | 22:49 |
crythias | "NO" | 22:49 |
crythias | "Not unless you edit ___.pm | 22:49 |
crythias | :) | 22:49 |
@snapcount | hehe | 22:50 |
crythias | use iDontWorkForPlainBlackDisclaimer; | 22:52 |
@snapcount | that would not be in my best interest | 22:52 |
@snapcount | saying something like that may make it a reality | 22:53 |
crythias | no. *I* said that. | 22:53 |
@snapcount | oh I get it | 22:53 |
@snapcount | sorry | 22:53 |
@snapcount | my brain is fried | 22:53 |
perlDreamer | need more Mountain Dew | 22:53 |
@snapcount | all I've done today is micro-economics, managerial accounting, and a lot of support requests | 22:54 |
perlDreamer | I fixed another bug for you | 22:54 |
@snapcount | I got that nbcccccc guy going | 22:54 |
crythias | yeah | 22:54 |
crythias | :) | 22:54 |
crythias | I helped him as well. | 22:54 |
@snapcount | aparently you have to upgrade 6.7.5 -> 6.7.8 -> 6.8.0 -> 6.8.5 | 22:55 |
@snapcount | thanks | 22:55 |
perlDreamer | wait a minute | 22:55 |
@snapcount | perlDreamer: thanks | 22:55 |
perlDreamer | to get from 6.7.5 you have to run 4 upgrades? | 22:55 |
@snapcount | this guy did | 22:55 |
@snapcount | maybe that's just a coincidence | 22:55 |
@snapcount | but doing that sequence worked | 22:56 |
@snapcount | his WebGUI installation was searching for webgui/lib in /lib (like the root of his filesystem) | 22:56 |
crythias | thee upgrades. | 22:56 |
crythias | three | 22:56 |
@snapcount | weird | 22:56 |
@snapcount | what's the opposite of a fence-post error called | 22:57 |
@snapcount | fence error? | 22:57 |
@snapcount | =) | 22:57 |
@snapcount | off by one | 22:57 |
crythias | gatepass? | 22:57 |
@snapcount | <shrug> | 22:57 |
perlDreamer | two bugs drinking beer on the wal | 23:04 |
perlDreamer | two bugs drinking beer | 23:04 |
perlDreamer | uh | 23:04 |
perlDreamer | oh well | 23:04 |
@snapcount | good thing someone is getting to work on bugs | 23:04 |
@snapcount | I want to but it seems impossible | 23:04 |
@snapcount | it helps a lot | 23:04 |
@snapcount | I can't thank you enough | 23:05 |
perlDreamer | don't thank me too much, I only have time to work on the easy bugs that you and Matt use to take a breather :) | 23:05 |
@snapcount | that's fine | 23:05 |
perlDreamer | shortcut an existing asset, clipboard | 23:39 |
perlDreamer | add an shortcut asset, select by criteria | 23:39 |
crythias | Asset to Mirror would be Asset URL to mirror | 23:39 |
pbmdawg | like, working during class :) | 00:14 |
@snapcount | oh | 00:14 |
@snapcount | I put in about 55 - 60 hours a week | 00:15 |
@snapcount | far from JT status | 00:15 |
@snapcount | but that should count as full time | 00:15 |
@snapcount | actually | 00:15 |
@snapcount | prolly more like 50 - 55 | 00:15 |
pbmdawg | same for me, thereabouts. | 00:16 |
@snapcount | that's average I would guess | 00:16 |
@snapcount | probably for Frank too | 00:16 |
@snapcount | I don't know about vrby and steve | 00:16 |
@snapcount | I don't know what kind of hours they put in but i'm sure it's up there | 00:16 |
pbmdawg | frank's like 65-70 | 00:17 |
pbmdawg | or higher | 00:17 |
@snapcount | wow | 00:17 |
pbmdawg | (my guess) | 00:17 |
@snapcount | there's no way I could do that with my course load | 00:18 |
perlDreamer | ? | 00:32 |
@snapcount | heh | 00:33 |
@snapcount | converting it to 6.9 | 00:33 |
pbmdawg | 6.8 | 00:33 |
@snapcount | that's what I meant | 00:33 |
pbmdawg | say what you mean!!!! | 00:33 |
perlDreamer | esm? | 00:33 |
pbmdawg | I just static-shocked my notebook. | 00:33 |
@snapcount | this is like the caveman version of EMS | 00:33 |
pbmdawg | oh | 00:34 |
@snapcount | the predecessor00:35 <@snapcount> perlDreamer: it's a client app I wrote | 00:34 |
@snapcount | matt gets to go clean up after me | 00:35 |
@snapcount | I feel bad for him | 00:35 |
@snapcount | =) | 00:35 |
perlDreamer | ah | 00:35 |
perlDreamer | not core stuff | 00:35 |
@snapcount | nah | 00:35 |
perlDreamer | I don't think he's here | 00:43 |
@snapcount | he's here | 00:43 |
@snapcount | just ignoring us =) | 00:44 |
pbmdawg | huh | 00:44 |
@snapcount | see | 00:44 |
@snapcount | lol | 00:44 |
perlDreamer | what's the max data in allowed in DateTime? | 00:44 |
perlDreamer | s/data/date | 00:44 |
pbmdawg | DateTime.pm or WebGUI::DateTime | 00:45 |
perlDreamer | yes | 00:45 |
perlDreamer | where does the integer overflow? | 00:45 |
* snapcount snickers | 00:45 |
pbmdawg | um | 00:45 |
pbmdawg | I think it's 8 bit float. | 00:45 |
pbmdawg | no | 00:46 |
pbmdawg | 16 bit float | 00:46 |
pbmdawg | signed | 00:46 |
perlDreamer | how big are the mantissa and exponent fields? | 00:46 |
@snapcount | 10^69 | 00:48 |
@snapcount | -1.00 | 00:48 |
@snapcount | for tax | 00:48 |
@snapcount | lovely | 00:50 |
@snapcount | sf just went down | 00:50 |
perlDreamer | I have 4-5 of the bugs memorized | 00:51 |
perlDreamer | which ones have you already fixed? | 00:51 |
@snapcount | passthruUrls | 00:51 |
@snapcount | matrix tmpl var | 00:51 |
perlDreamer | both of them? | 00:51 |
@snapcount | what was the other one | 00:51 |
@snapcount | and the data form security | 00:51 |
perlDreamer | DirectoryIndex not working with passThruUrl | 00:51 |
@snapcount | oh yeah | 00:52 |
@snapcount | I'll do that one | 00:52 |
@snapcount | I saw that guys fix | 00:52 |
perlDreamer | do you have IE? | 00:52 |
@snapcount | but I don't understand why you have to add location blocks for indexs to be picked up | 00:52 |
perlDreamer | there were several with IE that I can't work on because I don't have it. | 00:52 |
@snapcount | I'd have to dust it off | 00:53 |
@snapcount | havent' fired IE up in like 6 months | 00:53 |
perlDreamer | how about FireFox 1.5? | 00:53 |
@snapcount | yep | 00:54 |
@snapcount | 1.5.0.1 | 00:54 |
perlDreamer | okay | 00:54 |
perlDreamer | there's an Avatar upload problem with FireFox reported by Vitkovsky | 00:54 |
perlDreamer | against IE and FireFox | 00:54 |
perlDreamer | i think an earlier bug may have already fixed it | 00:54 |
pbmdawg | a bug fixed another bug? | 00:55 |
pbmdawg | smart bugs.... | 00:55 |
perlDreamer | bugfix | 00:55 |
pbmdawg | roy: email me the salesmgr code (including runhourly) if you still have it | 00:55 |
@snapcount | there is no runHourly for salesmanager | 00:56 |
pbmdawg | err I mean macros | 00:56 |
pbmdawg | same thing | 00:56 |
perlDreamer | has anyone updated the Hourly script for 6.9? | 00:56 |
@snapcount | I'm not sure | 01:04 |
pbmdawg | nope | 01:05 |
@snapcount | matt: it's sent | 01:05 |
@snapcount | perlDreamer: any thoughts on the second passthru bug | 01:07 |
@snapcount | the regex should be working to catch anything after the url | 01:07 |
@snapcount | and returns declined | 01:08 |
@snapcount | funny thing is | 01:08 |
@snapcount | the passthruUrl is working | 01:08 |
@snapcount | you get a 404 | 01:08 |
@snapcount | it's just not serving the index page | 01:09 |
perlDreamer | cube talk, be back later | 01:11 |
@snapcount | ok | 01:11 |
@snapcount | weird | 01:11 |
@snapcount | adding those location blocks do make it work though | 01:12 |
@snapcount | so... aparently, a location block with SetHandler None does something that returning DECLINE does not | 01:12 |
@snapcount | nice | 01:14 |
@snapcount | modperl docs don't define the constants | 01:15 |
pbmdawg | dog ate my new cell phone | 01:15 |
@snapcount | like... it's broken? | 01:15 |
pbmdawg | he swallowed the antenna tip | 01:17 |
@snapcount | nice | 01:17 |
@snapcount | Matt: I'm looking for the definitions of the Apache Constants | 01:21 |
@snapcount | like DECLINE | 01:21 |
@snapcount | do you know where I can find that? | 01:21 |
@snapcount | perl.apache.org has squat | 01:22 |
perlDreamer | Apache2::Constants? | 01:22 |
@snapcount | yeah | 01:22 |
perlDreamer | how about perldoc that? | 01:22 |
@snapcount | I'm trying to figure out what is different between SetHandler None in a location block and returning DECLINED | 01:22 |
@snapcount | perldoc Apache2::Constants | 01:23 |
@snapcount | No documentation found for "Apache2::Constants". | 01:23 |
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crythias | Yugioh GX | 01:23 |
crythias | :) | 01:23 |
@snapcount | Yahtzee | 01:26 |
@snapcount | perldoc Apache2::Const | 01:26 |
crythias | apropos what? | 01:37 |
perlDreamer | be back later | 01:39 |
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perlDreamer | sf is back up | 01:52 |
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perlDreamer | go snapcount | 02:36 |
perlDreamer | you bug fixin' monster! | 02:36 |
perlDreamer | how the EMS coming? | 02:40 |
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perlDreamer | snapcount: you busy? | 07:50 |
@snapcount | hehe | 07:50 |
@snapcount | you're funny | 07:50 |
@snapcount | what's up | 07:50 |
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perlDreamer | snapcount, I found another bug | 08:22 |
@snapcount | ooh boy | 08:22 |
@snapcount | what is it | 08:23 |
perlDreamer | you can make WebGUI upload a file of zero size | 08:23 |
@snapcount | heh | 08:23 |
@snapcount | that's cool | 08:23 |
@snapcount | that should be a feature | 08:23 |
perlDreamer | and if you name it like an image, you can make the thumbnail creator fatal out | 08:23 |
perlDreamer | we need a size check in Storage.pm | 08:23 |
@snapcount | add it to the list =) | 08:24 |
perlDreamer | gotcha | 08:24 |
@snapcount | I'm convinced it's growing faster than its shrinking | 08:24 |
perlDreamer | I think you're right | 08:24 |
@snapcount | that's okay though | 08:24 |
perlDreamer | but I'll fix this one tomorrow instead of adding to the list | 08:24 |
@snapcount | just means we'll get it more stable | 08:25 |
perlDreamer | not okay if you're the solo bug fixer | 08:25 |
@snapcount | please add it to the bug list even if you are going to fix | 08:25 |
@snapcount | that way it's documented | 08:25 |
perlDreamer | okay | 08:25 |
@snapcount | I'm giving up on this dataform bug for now | 08:25 |
@snapcount | hopefully someone can tell me how to duplicate it | 08:26 |
* snapcount shrugs | 08:26 |
@snapcount | I've tried everything I can think of and I can't break it | 08:26 |
@snapcount | oh well, guess i should go to bed now... it's late | 08:27 |
@snapcount | talk to you later | 08:27 |
perlDreamer | good night | 08:30 |
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nbcccorp | Hey, is there anyone available who knows something about the ^If(); macro and how I might deal with comma's in it's tests? | 15:19 |
lenthamen | hey nbcccorp | 15:29 |
lenthamen | what are you trying to do ? | 15:30 |
nbcccorp | Hey. I'm using the if macro in wg and when the data has a comma in it the macro fails. | 15:38 |
nbcccorp | so I am using ^If('<tmpl_var row.field.name.value>' eq 'United States',true,false); | 15:39 |
nbcccorp | when it hits 'Korea, Republic of' it fails | 15:39 |
lenthamen | Ok, I understand. | 15:40 |
lenthamen | In the SQL query you could replace the field with a html escaped comma | 15:40 |
nbcccorp | what would that look like? | 15:41 |
nbcccorp | wait, I see what you mean, in the sql statement replace , with , right? | 15:44 |
lenthamen | exactly | 15:44 |
nbcccorp | I will try that. thx. | 15:44 |
lenthamen | select replace("foo,bar",",",","); | 15:45 |
nbcccorp | I think I will need to do a sql if test to see if there is a comma in the data returned | 15:46 |
lenthamen | You can just call the replace. It won't change the value if there's no comma in it. | 15:46 |
nbcccorp | didn't realize that. | 15:47 |
lenthamen | SELECT REPLACE(country , "," , ",") AS escaped_country FROM countries; | 15:48 |
lenthamen | Wouldn't it be easier to not use the If macro at all ? | 15:49 |
lenthamen | I mean, you can let MySQL do that kind of checks too. | 15:50 |
nbcccorp | I'm using the if macro to display an href if country=united states | 15:50 |
nbcccorp | in the report template | 15:50 |
nbcccorp | that worked perfectly. thank you. | 15:51 |
lenthamen | ok. you're welcome. | 15:51 |
nbcccorp | ^If('<tmpl_var field.value>' eq 'United States',<a href="/boardbooks/countbystate"><tmpl_var field.value></a>,<tmpl_var field.value>); | 15:52 |
nbcccorp | should I be able to do that in the sql statement? | 15:52 |
nbcccorp | rather, should I be able to work around that with a sql statement? | 15:53 |
lenthamen | yes, you can move that check in the sql statement. | 15:53 |
lenthamen | hold on a sec, I'm doing that somewhere... | 15:53 |
lenthamen | SELECT IF(1>2,1,0) as showlink | 15:57 |
lenthamen | Take a look at the mysql Control Flow Functions | 15:58 |
nbcccorp | ok. thx. | 15:58 |
lenthamen | In your template you can do this: | 15:59 |
lenthamen | <tmpl_if row.field.showlink.value> | 15:59 |
lenthamen | <!-- show the link --> | 15:59 |
lenthamen | </tmpl_if> | 15:59 |
nbcccorp | gotcha. That's a great way to deal with alot of things I am currently using the If macro for. Thanks. | 16:00 |
lenthamen | It's faster and less error prone. | 16:00 |
nbcccorp | and should simplify templates for me. | 16:01 |
lenthamen | yeah definitely. | 16:01 |
lenthamen | good luck with it... | 16:01 |
nbcccorp | I hope so.. | 16:01 |
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nbcccorp | anyone out there know if it's possible to do an Include in the webgui site.conf files? End up with one file which contains all the macro,wobject statements for all of my sites. | 16:43 |
@snapcount | sup peeps | 17:09 |
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@snapcount | WOO HOO | 18:29 |
pbmdawg | ? | 18:29 |
@snapcount | I finally know what the hell is going on | 18:29 |
@snapcount | with the directory index problem and passthruUrls | 18:29 |
@snapcount | apparently mod_dir is executed towards the end of the apache request cycle | 18:30 |
@snapcount | and because we take the cycle over with PerlInitHandler | 18:30 |
@snapcount | mod_dir never gets called | 18:30 |
@snapcount | and therefore never does it's magic to process index files | 18:30 |
@snapcount | so I just have to write a PerlFixupHandler to make mod_dir do it's thing | 18:31 |
@snapcount | at the appropriate time | 18:31 |
@snapcount | well, that's the theory anyway | 18:31 |
@snapcount | I'm going to try and implement a fix now | 18:32 |
@snapcount | so we'll see if I prematurally celebrated | 18:32 |
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crythias | he suffers from cd. celebratory dysfunction. Now, there is hope. A new series of medications is now available for cd. | 18:57 |
crythias | With ProLong, your celebrations can be longer and louder than ever before. | 18:58 |
crythias | Technological innovations allow you to control your celebrations until the right moment. You'll know when it's time, and you'll be ready. | 18:59 |
@snapcount | ROFLMAO | 18:59 |
crythias | Tom, from Sheboigan says, "I used to have premature celebration. I was at this surprise party, and completely ruined the surprise. Now, with ProLong, I can hold that celebration until it's time." | 19:00 |
* snapcount is crying | 19:00 |
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crythias | Mary, another satisfied customer, says, "My husband suffered from severe cd. He just couldn't celebrate. At our son's birthday party, he barely sang 'Happy Birthday'. Our son's next birthday is coming up, and my husband's been taking ProLong. My husband actually wants to dress up as a clown and tie balloons! Thank you, ProLong." | 19:03 |
perlDreamer | snapcount: y'all about ready to commit? | 19:04 |
perlDreamer | you shouldn't be afraid to commit you know | 19:04 |
perlDreamer | it shows an insecurity in relationships | 19:04 |
perlDreamer | plus, he who commits last has to merge | 19:04 |
crythias | http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/iFfl0688.nln.html | 19:05 |
@WRE | <crythias> http://tinyurl.com/9nntj | 19:05 |
* pbmdawg commits early and often | 19:05 |
@snapcount | not me | 19:05 |
pbmdawg | analogous to releasing early and releasing often. | 19:05 |
crythias | vote early. vote often! | 19:06 |
@snapcount | I will commit when I fix this passthruUrl bug | 19:06 |
crythias | Roy: You liked my commercial? | 19:06 |
@snapcount | I think I'm close | 19:06 |
@snapcount | yes | 19:06 |
@snapcount | you should start an ad agency | 19:06 |
crythias | heh | 19:06 |
crythias | yaknow, disconnected usb mice don't work. | 19:08 |
crythias | just sayin'. | 19:08 |
@snapcount | you need wireless usb | 19:08 |
@snapcount | !bofh | 19:09 |
@WRE | BOFH Quick-excuse: because Bill Gates is a Jehovah's witness and so nothing can work on St. Swithin's day. | 19:09 |
crythias | Suicides surged by 35 percent in 1998 as Japan's economy was mired in stagnation and have exceeded 30,000 every year since then. | 19:10 |
crythias | The heck? | 19:10 |
@snapcount | SCORE | 19:14 |
@snapcount | it works | 19:14 |
* snapcount does a dance | 19:14 |
@snapcount | that's the good news | 19:14 |
perlDreamer | what's the bad news? | 19:17 |
@snapcount | more support to do now =) | 19:17 |
perlDreamer | oy | 19:17 |
@snapcount | fixing this bug was my taking a break | 19:17 |
@snapcount | it was much needed | 19:17 |
@snapcount | had to bury my head in code for a bit | 19:17 |
@snapcount | get my bearings | 19:17 |
perlDreamer | could you mark which bugs you've fixed so that I don't duplicate what you've done | 19:17 |
@snapcount | I've been closing the trackers | 19:18 |
@snapcount | and I'm about to commit | 19:18 |
@snapcount | ok I committed | 19:39 |
perlDreamer | I did too | 19:39 |
perlDreamer | I'm looking at the new IP filter bug | 19:39 |
perlDreamer | any ideas? | 19:39 |
@snapcount | first thought is are they behind a proxy (like WRE) | 19:40 |
@snapcount | and is the IP being passed through | 19:40 |
perlDreamer | I'll test the basic feature, and then if it passes I'll ask them for more info | 19:41 |
@snapcount | but I'm pretty sure that WebGUI.pm takes care of that | 19:41 |
@snapcount | (proxies) | 19:41 |
@snapcount | yep | 19:41 |
@snapcount | ### check to see if client is proxied and adjust remote_addr as necessary | 19:41 |
@snapcount | if ($ENV{HTTP_X_FORWARDED_FOR} ne "") { | 19:41 |
@snapcount | $session{env}{REMOTE_ADDR} = $ENV{HTTP_X_FORWARDED_FOR}; | 19:41 |
@snapcount | } | 19:41 |
@snapcount | so it's probably something else | 19:41 |
perlDreamer | I have an idea | 19:42 |
perlDreamer | let's stop putting so many bugs INTO WebGUI so that we can spend less time debugging WG and more time doing fun stuff | 19:42 |
perlDreamer | like our top secret Papa John's work | 19:42 |
@snapcount | yes | 19:43 |
@snapcount | now you're thinking | 19:43 |
@snapcount | ok... back to support for me | 19:43 |
@snapcount | I'll check in from time to time | 19:43 |
@snapcount | hopefully I'll be back to bug squashing soon | 19:43 |
@snapcount | ok... my changes are merged into head as well | 20:00 |
perlDreamer | adding new users is broken | 20:01 |
@snapcount | I noticed that the other day | 20:01 |
@snapcount | in head right | 20:01 |
perlDreamer | 6.8.6 | 20:01 |
@snapcount | oh | 20:01 |
@snapcount | didn't know that | 20:01 |
perlDreamer | I'm going to test demo to see if it's there, too | 20:01 |
perlDreamer | it's broken there, too | 20:03 |
@snapcount | my god | 20:03 |
@snapcount | we need to put WebGUI in a tent | 20:03 |
@snapcount | and fumagate | 20:03 |
perlDreamer | everybody: We need to thoroughly test 6.8.5 | 20:03 |
perlDreamer | if you can create a demo site and try even the most menial of tasks, adding users, groups, changing settings | 20:04 |
@snapcount | for sure | 20:07 |
@snapcount | this is getting ridiculous | 20:07 |
perlDreamer | even 5 minutes will make a difference | 20:10 |
perlDreamer | it would be great if you post bugs to SF and then mention them here. | 20:10 |
pbmdawg | colin: anon. regist. works in 6.9....? | 20:41 |
perlDreamer | haven't checked | 20:41 |
perlDreamer | any suggestions for debugging this one in 6.8.6? | 20:41 |
perlDreamer | seems like I've seen this before, but don't remember how it got fixed. | 20:41 |
perlDreamer | huh | 20:42 |
perlDreamer | let me try again | 20:42 |
perlDreamer | Admin operation Add new user is broken | 20:43 |
perlDreamer | I didn't try anonymous registration | 20:43 |
perlDreamer | in 6.8.5 | 20:43 |
perlDreamer | I don't think anonymous registration is working either in 6.8.6 | 20:55 |
perlDreamer | seems to be working in 6.8.5 on plainblack.com | 20:55 |
perlDreamer | !lastSpoke snapcount | 23:27 |
@WRE | snapcount last uttered a word on #webgui 3 hours, 20 minutes ago. | 23:28 |
@snapcount | ;alkjf;la | 23:29 |
@snapcount | better? | 23:29 |
pbmdawg | worse | 23:29 |
@snapcount | now it will say 1 minute ago =) | 23:29 |
perlDreamer | it just got real quiet while I was gone at lunch | 23:29 |
crythias | !lastSpoke crythias | 23:29 |
@WRE | crythias last uttered a word on #webgui 4 hours, 19 minutes ago. | 23:29 |
perlDreamer | snapcount: supporting or debugging? | 23:30 |
@snapcount | debugging a support | 23:30 |
@snapcount | ironically, the root cause is probably bugs in 6.8 | 23:30 |
@snapcount | !lastspoke my_ass | 23:32 |
perlDreamer | What? | 23:32 |
perlDreamer | bugs in WebGUI? | 23:32 |
perlDreamer | surely you jest | 23:32 |
@snapcount | $self->jest; | 23:33 |
crythias | don't call me Shirley. | 23:33 |
crythias | hrm. | 23:34 |
crythias | I need to find a place that I can have a house. And a job. | 23:34 |
@snapcount | !quote MSFT | 23:35 |
@WRE | MSFT -> 26.69 -0.22 / Last Trade 4:30pm / Change -0.82% / Volume 26.63 / 52 Week Range 26.70 | 23:35 |
@snapcount | keep fallin' baby | 23:35 |
perlDreamer | !quote MXIM | 23:35 |
@WRE | MXIM -> 40.40 -1.28 / Last Trade 4:23pm / Change -3.07% / Volume 40.20 / 52 Week Range 40.75 | 23:35 |
perlDreamer | grrrr | 23:35 |
pbmdawg | !quote GOOG | 23:35 |
@WRE | GOOG -> 362.00 -7.08 / Last Trade 4:34pm / Change -1.92% / Volume 362.01 / 52 Week Range 362.24 | 23:35 |
pbmdawg | !quote AAPL | 23:35 |
@WRE | AAPL -> 64.73 -4.08 / Last Trade 4:34pm / Change -5.93% / Volume 64.73 / 52 Week Range 64.89 | 23:35 |
@snapcount | !WGUI | 23:36 |
@snapcount | !quote WGUI | 23:36 |
@WRE | WGUI -> No such stock symbol found | 23:36 |
perlDreamer | !quote PB | 23:36 |
@WRE | PB -> No such stock symbol found | 23:36 |
perlDreamer | !quote JT | 23:36 |
@WRE | JT -> No such stock symbol found | 23:36 |
@snapcount | !bash support | 23:36 |
@WRE | !bash search results: Q# 60469 | Q# 191063 | Q# 408973 | Q# 131553 | Q# 464561 | Q# 354453 | Q# 447828 | Q# 146073 | Q# 178285 | Q# 495510 | 23:36 |
pbmdawg | !quote JT.OB | 23:36 |
crythias | !quote PL-PB | 23:36 |
@WRE | JT.OB -> No such stock symbol found | 23:36 |
@WRE | PL-PB -> 24.45 0.00 / Last Trade 3:58pm / Change 0.00% / Volume 0.01 / 52 Week Range 4000.00 | 23:36 |
@snapcount | !bash 60469 | 23:36 |
@WRE | |bash| <tomfoolery> there's a small fire burning in my room | 23:36 |
@WRE | |bash| <beretta> lemme guess im supposed to act suprised that you're telling us and not making any attempt to extinguish it, so i can submit it to bash where it will join the ranks of the other 'SOMETHING CATOSTROPHIC HAPPENED SO I CAME TO TELL YOU GUYS ON IRC FIRST INSTEAD OF ATTEMPTING TO DEFUSE THE HOSTILE SITUATION' quotes that are grossly abundant, similar, and overrated. and despite a new one is submitted each week and only the location of the | 23:36 |
perlDreamer | what is bash? | 23:37 |
crythias | bash.org | 23:37 |
@snapcount | !bash colin | 23:37 |
@WRE | !bash search results: Q# 433425 | Q# 13857 | 23:37 |
crythias | !quote PL-PB | 23:37 |
@WRE | PL-PB -> 24.45 0.00 / Last Trade 3:58pm / Change 0.00% / Volume 0.01 / 52 Week Range 4000.00 | 23:37 |
crythias | !quote BLK | 23:38 |
@WRE | BLK -> 134.31 +3.20 / Last Trade 4:00pm / Change +2.44% / Volume 134.31 / 52 Week Range N/A | 23:38 |
@snapcount | !bofh | 23:38 |
@WRE | BOFH Quick-excuse: Too many little pins on CPU confusing it, bend back and forth until 10-20% are neatly removed. Do _not_ leave metal bits visible! | 23:38 |
crythias | !quote GUI | 23:38 |
@WRE | GUI -> 25.0999 +0.0999 / Last Trade 12:12pm / Change +0.40% / Volume 24.61 / 52 Week Range 26.90 | 23:38 |
@snapcount | calc mattscode | 23:39 |
@WRE | mattscode = <pbmdawg> {dangit;} i broke 6.9... beyond repair, probably. | 23:39 |
crythias | !quote WEB GUI | 23:39 |
@WRE | WEB -> 2005 9.45 / Last Trade Jan 6 / Change 0.00 / Volume 0.00% / 52 Week Range N/A | 23:39 |
crythias | calc marriage | 23:40 |
@WRE | marriage = <pbmdawg> my sister just got engaged <crythias> but you're already married... | 23:40 |
@snapcount | that's one of my favorites | 23:40 |
@snapcount | ok... back to work for me | 23:40 |
crythias | heh | 23:40 |
crythias | maleswanweb.com is available. | 23:42 |
crythias | lemmingdroppings.com | 23:51 |
crythias | icantbelievethatdomainisavailable.com | 23:53 |
crythias | swimmingool.com is available. Notice no P in it? Let's keep it that way. | 23:56 |
crythias | need to get the available domain stinkyfartpants.com | 23:58 |
@snapcount | how about geraldsfunnydomainnameatadiscountbargainpricejustforyou.com | 23:59 |
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crythias | heh | 00:00 |
crythias | ewwhatsmells.com | 00:00 |
crythias | randomsitename.com | 00:01 |
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@snapcount | d | 00:26 |
perlDreamer | r | 00:26 |
@snapcount | o | 00:26 |
pbmdawg | p | 00:26 |
@snapcount | i | 00:26 |
perlDreamer | n | 00:26 |
@snapcount | g | 00:27 |
pbmdawg | y | 00:27 |
@snapcount | nice | 00:27 |
@snapcount | you screwed it up | 00:27 |
perlDreamer | Hey, Ingy is nice | 00:27 |
@snapcount | dropingy | 00:27 |
@snapcount | that make no sense you jive turkey | 00:27 |
pbmdawg | my dog just ate a hole in my umbrella | 00:27 |
pbmdawg | uh | 00:27 |
pbmdawg | y was starting a new word | 00:27 |
perlDreamer | this is one expensive dog | 00:28 |
@snapcount | my bad brother | 00:28 |
pbmdawg | mozilla 1.4 is fast. | 00:28 |
@snapcount | ok new rule | 00:28 |
@snapcount | if anyone comes in here and says simply, "hello" | 00:28 |
@snapcount | we start that game | 00:28 |
@snapcount | but with words | 00:29 |
@snapcount | we'll go in order as listed by nick | 00:29 |
@snapcount | starting with who says the magic word | 00:29 |
perlDreamer | how about age instead? | 00:29 |
@snapcount | we may not know ages | 00:29 |
@snapcount | what if Capt_Kangaroo joins | 00:29 |
perlDreamer | he's dead | 00:30 |
@snapcount | exactly | 00:30 |
@snapcount | so how old is he | 00:30 |
@snapcount | hello | 00:30 |
perlDreamer | how | 00:30 |
perlDreamer | sorry, jumped the gun | 00:30 |
@snapcount | wow | 00:30 |
@snapcount | we suck | 00:31 |
@snapcount | I guess we'll have to stick to the license plate game | 00:31 |
@snapcount | heh | 00:31 |
perlDreamer | WE SUXORS | 00:31 |
@snapcount | I'm about to run a script that will add 1100 layouts to my dev site | 00:32 |
@snapcount | all under home | 00:32 |
perlDreamer | I'll pray | 00:32 |
@snapcount | my computer will probably melt | 00:32 |
@snapcount | Client added a bunch of content and it just 'disappeared' | 00:32 |
@snapcount | at first I was going to ask him to reproduce | 00:32 |
pbmdawg | good luck running ?func=manageAssets on home | 00:32 |
@snapcount | but... | 00:32 |
perlDreamer | like gone from database? | 00:33 |
@snapcount | like gone | 00:33 |
@snapcount | yeah | 00:33 |
@snapcount | no errors in log | 00:33 |
@snapcount | no anything | 00:33 |
@snapcount | just gone | 00:33 |
perlDreamer | sounds like a bad Hourly script | 00:33 |
@snapcount | sounds like 6.8 | 00:33 |
@snapcount | =) | 00:33 |
pbmdawg | sounds like WebGUI. | 00:33 |
pbmdawg | sounds like PlainBlack software. | 00:34 |
@snapcount | we *have* to get this stable | 00:34 |
@snapcount | we have a really good product | 00:34 |
pbmdawg | pffffff | 00:34 |
@snapcount | but the bugs have got to go | 00:34 |
pbmdawg | ;) it doesn't need to be stable | 00:34 |
pbmdawg | how do you think we make our money??!?!?!!!! | 00:34 |
@snapcount | by innovating | 00:34 |
perlDreamer | yeah, only slightly imbalanced | 00:34 |
perlDreamer | but right now it needs a serious dose of lithium | 00:35 |
@snapcount | we're not running the M$ strategy here | 00:35 |
@snapcount | =) | 00:35 |
pbmdawg | could'a fooled me | 00:35 |
@snapcount | actually... they have a lot of money | 00:35 |
@snapcount | hmm | 00:35 |
pbmdawg | yesh. | 00:35 |
perlDreamer | no | 00:35 |
perlDreamer | no no on | 00:35 |
perlDreamer | no | 00:35 |
pbmdawg | so jt likes len's profiler | 00:36 |
pbmdawg | ... heading out for a coupla hours. bb l8r | 00:36 |
@snapcount | to make things interesting | 00:37 |
@snapcount | lets add an article to each page as well | 00:38 |
perlDreamer | there you go | 00:38 |
perlDreamer | snapcount: you around? | 00:57 |
@snapcount | yes | 00:58 |
perlDreamer | a whole bunch of new templates were recently added to WG. | 00:59 |
perlDreamer | I think they might be a little screwed up. | 00:59 |
perlDreamer | where they added to 6.8.6? | 00:59 |
perlDreamer | on just 6.9? | 00:59 |
@snapcount | I'm not sure | 00:59 |
@snapcount | I'll have to ask Steve | 00:59 |
perlDreamer | I think the createAccount template might be bad | 01:00 |
@snapcount | I'm asking him now | 01:00 |
perlDreamer | hold on | 01:04 |
perlDreamer | the template is okay | 01:04 |
perlDreamer | it's the anonymousRegistration setting. | 01:05 |
@snapcount | he's checking them into 6.8 into a special folder in docs | 01:05 |
perlDreamer | okay, I'll double check them | 01:05 |
@snapcount | but nothing is done with them until the 6.8 -> 6.9 upgrade | 01:05 |
@snapcount | the upgrade adds them into 6.9 | 01:05 |
perlDreamer | okay | 01:05 |
* snapcount adds 5000 Page layouts under home | 01:07 |
perlDreamer | is anonymous registration off by default? | 01:08 |
@snapcount | yeah | 01:08 |
@snapcount | should be | 01:08 |
perlDreamer | okay, that means that my two bugs are down to 0.5 bugs | 01:08 |
@snapcount | cool | 01:09 |
@snapcount | that's a good trend | 01:09 |
perlDreamer | I had a friend verify that Moz 1.4 has the editUser problem, but other versions don't seem to | 01:09 |
perlDreamer | disabling tinyMCE is a temporary workaround | 01:09 |
@snapcount | I currently have 2800 assets in the db | 01:13 |
@snapcount | about half way there | 01:13 |
perlDreamer | any idea what might be making them disappear? | 01:14 |
@snapcount | no... that's why I'm doing this | 01:14 |
@snapcount | I can't think of anything that would make that happen | 01:14 |
perlDreamer | version control | 01:14 |
@snapcount | it's set to autocommit | 01:14 |
perlDreamer | I mean, it has the ability to do stuff like that | 01:15 |
@snapcount | oh yeah | 01:15 |
@snapcount | i c what you mean | 01:15 |
@snapcount | 4000 | 01:16 |
perlDreamer | while you're waiting, would you look at some code with me? | 01:17 |
@snapcount | sure | 01:17 |
perlDreamer | WebGUI::HTTP | 01:17 |
@snapcount | what are we looking at | 01:17 |
perlDreamer | sub getHeader | 01:17 |
perlDreamer | it's Frank's bug | 01:17 |
perlDreamer | there's a hash, %params, that has stuff added to it, but it never gets used | 01:18 |
@snapcount | ok | 01:19 |
@snapcount | I see it | 01:19 |
perlDreamer | so the bug is that the HTTP header fileName never gets set, and from this code, you can see why | 01:20 |
perlDreamer | it gets assigned to a hash that doesn't ever do anything | 01:20 |
perlDreamer | it looks like something was partially converted, then not finished | 01:20 |
@snapcount | yeah... the hash needs to have keys that match the header keys | 01:20 |
@snapcount | then set them | 01:20 |
@snapcount | in a loop or something | 01:21 |
@snapcount | or screw the loop | 01:21 |
@snapcount | and the hash | 01:21 |
@snapcount | and just set the properties in the if stmts | 01:21 |
perlDreamer | -attachment = Attachment | 01:22 |
perlDreamer | -expires = Expires | 01:22 |
perlDreamer | ? | 01:22 |
@snapcount | those are probably mp2 methods they are calling | 01:23 |
@snapcount | so we'll have to find the docs | 01:23 |
@snapcount | to see what properties we can set | 01:23 |
@snapcount | ->headers_out->set | 01:23 |
@snapcount | I'll look in the mp2 docs | 01:24 |
@snapcount | ok... it is part of the request object | 01:32 |
@snapcount | it just takes key value pairs | 01:32 |
@snapcount | of whatever | 01:32 |
@snapcount | we need a reference for HTTP/1.1 headers | 01:32 |
@snapcount | that are valid | 01:33 |
perlDreamer | or a copy of pre mp2 WebGUI code. | 01:33 |
@snapcount | that's what will tell us the keys we can use | 01:33 |
@snapcount | we could browse cvs | 01:33 |
@snapcount | http://www.w3.org/Protocols/rfc2616/rfc2616-sec14.html | 01:34 |
@WRE | <snapcount> http://tinyurl.com/9fxl7 | 01:34 |
perlDreamer | this is an old bug | 01:36 |
@snapcount | huh? | 01:37 |
perlDreamer | I've traced it all the way back to the 6.9 fork | 01:37 |
@snapcount | been around a while | 01:37 |
@snapcount | that link I posted has all the valid headers | 01:37 |
@snapcount | for http/1.1 | 01:37 |
perlDreamer | I don't see headers for attachment or cookie in there | 01:39 |
perlDreamer | the bug was introduced in CVS version 1.18 | 01:43 |
@snapcount | whoa | 01:43 |
perlDreamer | when WG was originally converted over to a mod_perl handler | 01:44 |
perlDreamer | in May 2005 | 01:44 |
@snapcount | ok... my script is done... I have to figure out this suppt req | 01:44 |
perlDreamer | thanks for the help | 01:44 |
@snapcount | I didn't really help =) but your welcom | 01:44 |
perlDreamer | chansen: are you lurking about? | 01:52 |
@snapcount | colin: those pages didn't disappear | 01:53 |
@snapcount | I was on the wrong server... I was on a dev server | 01:53 |
perlDreamer | still have all 5k? | 01:53 |
@snapcount | they are in the db | 01:53 |
perlDreamer | oh | 01:53 |
@snapcount | I do yeha | 01:53 |
@snapcount | so we know wg can do it =) | 01:53 |
@snapcount | kinda cool | 01:54 |
@snapcount | I moved em around and everything | 01:54 |
perlDreamer | so no support req? | 01:54 |
@snapcount | still have to figure out why they disappeared from the website | 01:54 |
@snapcount | but they are at least in the db | 01:54 |
perlDreamer | according to google, Apache2 doesn't do attachments yet | 01:55 |
perlDreamer | this blog entry is old, but it's the only thing I've found: http://darkwing.uoregon.edu/~tkay/alphamail_oldnews.html | 01:55 |
@WRE | <perlDreamer> http://tinyurl.com/du8um | 01:55 |
@snapcount | found em | 01:56 |
perlDreamer | the lost pages? | 01:56 |
perlDreamer | cool! | 01:56 |
@snapcount | they are in a trash-limbo state | 01:56 |
@snapcount | don't know what that means though | 01:57 |
@snapcount | or why it would happen =) | 01:57 |
perlDreamer | ah | 01:57 |
@snapcount | but that's why they aren't being shown | 01:57 |
@snapcount | guess I'll have to ask the big dog | 01:57 |
chansen | perlDreamer: whatsup? | 02:17 |
perlDreamer | does Apache2 support attachments? | 02:17 |
chansen | attachments? | 02:17 |
perlDreamer | similar to the CGI method header( -attachment => 'filename') | 02:18 |
chansen | ahh, ofcourse, just set the header | 02:18 |
chansen | IIRC $r->headers_out->set( Disposition => 'asdasdasd' ); | 02:18 |
perlDreamer | ah attachment = Disposition ? | 02:19 |
chansen | IIRC yes | 02:19 |
chansen | I'm pretty sure | 02:19 |
chansen | It's not a standard track | 02:19 |
chansen | but most browsers grok it | 02:19 |
perlDreamer | I'll try it | 02:20 |
perlDreamer | thanks | 02:20 |
perlDreamer | you've been awfully quiet today | 02:20 |
perlDreamer | actually, that's almost it | 02:22 |
perlDreamer | Content-Disposition: attachment; | 02:22 |
perlDreamer | filename=$attachment | 02:23 |
perlDreamer | but with your help I was able to track it down | 02:23 |
chansen | :) | 02:23 |
perlDreamer | later guys, thanks for the chat | 03:02 |
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crythias | howdy | 03:25 |
crythias | A skeleton walks into a bar. He tells the bartender... Gimme a beer. .... and a mop. | 03:26 |
* snapcount chuckels | 03:32 |
@snapcount | see you guys later | 03:32 |
@snapcount | need to take a break for a while | 03:33 |
crythias | wow | 03:36 |
crythias | support questions are nuts. | 03:37 |
crythias | calc remove marriage | 03:38 |
crythias | calc marriage | 03:38 |
@WRE | marriage = <pbmdawg> my sister just got engaged <crythias> but you're already married... | 03:38 |
crythias | remove marriage | 03:39 |
crythias | calc three | 03:39 |
@WRE | No calc set for "three" | 03:39 |
crythias | calc marriage | 03:39 |
@WRE | marriage = <pbmdawg> my sister just got engaged <crythias> but you're already married... | 03:39 |
crythias | sigh | 03:39 |
* pbmdawg snorts | 03:43 |
pbmdawg | calc crythias | 03:49 |
@WRE | crythias = saihtyrc | 03:49 |
pbmdawg | calc crythias FAHQEW | 03:49 |
crythias | well, I want it gone | 03:51 |
crythias | calc crythias | 03:51 |
@WRE | crythias = saihtyrc | 03:51 |
crythias | ahhyeah | 03:51 |
crythias | someone has zyxwvutsrqponmlkjihgfedcba.com | 03:52 |
pbmdawg | anyone know of a .pl to convert pod to html? | 04:29 |
pbmdawg | by "anyone", I mean the only person in here who is actually here - crythias? | 04:30 |
crythias | ? | 04:30 |
crythias | turned on gaim alert on my name ah... yeah. | 04:30 |
crythias | perl pod2html? | 04:31 |
crythias | that'd be command line. | 04:32 |
crythias | http://search.cpan.org/~jhi/perl-5.8.0/pod/pod2html.PL | 04:34 |
@WRE | <crythias> http://tinyurl.com/9tph7 | 04:34 |
crythias | http://search.cpan.org/~jhi/perl-5.8.0/lib/Pod/Html.pm | 04:35 |
@WRE | <crythias> http://tinyurl.com/bhzre | 04:35 |
crythias | beauty and geek.. He's a great little hostess. | 04:37 |
crythias | "hostess... is that a what you call a guy?" | 04:38 |
crythias | sigh | 04:55 |
pbmdawg | sigh? | 05:05 |
crythias | yeah | 05:07 |
crythias | did I give you what you needed? | 05:07 |
pbmdawg | I think so; thanks! | 05:07 |
crythias | :) | 05:07 |
pbmdawg | haven't tried it yet. | 05:08 |
pbmdawg | 'night | 05:38 |
crythias | night | 05:39 |
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MrHairgrease | chansen | 17:59 |
MrHairgrease | I found out the problem with the rewriting on 6.9 | 18:00 |
MrHairgrease | i happens to be that a PerlINitHandler normally is equivalent to PerlHeaderParserHandler | 18:00 |
MrHairgrease | except if it's directly in a virtualhost or no bloack at all | 18:01 |
MrHairgrease | in that case it's a PerlPostReadRequestHandler which precedes the transhandler phase | 18:01 |
MrHairgrease | which is indeed used by mod_rewrite | 18:02 |
MrHairgrease | Wrapping the stuff in a location block does the trick. | 18:02 |
chansen | cool | 18:03 |
@snapcount | I just fixed a similar problem | 18:03 |
MrHairgrease | what | 18:03 |
@snapcount | well, kinda similar | 18:03 |
MrHairgrease | oh ok. | 18:03 |
@snapcount | it was that directory indexes were ignored in passthruUrls | 18:03 |
@snapcount | it happened b/c mod_dir was being skipped | 18:04 |
MrHairgrease | how did you fix that? | 18:04 |
@snapcount | putting it in a location block also fixed | 18:04 |
@snapcount | I wrote another handler | 18:04 |
@snapcount | a PerlFixupHandler | 18:04 |
@snapcount | that handed of to mod_dir when needed | 18:04 |
@snapcount | it's in head in WebGUI.pm if you want to take a look | 18:04 |
MrHairgrease | maybe later | 18:05 |
@snapcount | maybe a similar solution is possible for this problem | 18:05 |
* snapcount shrugs | 18:05 |
MrHairgrease | I've been busy all day on the rwrite thing, explaining stuff to Wouter and fixing just a single bug | 18:05 |
@snapcount | heh | 18:05 |
MrHairgrease | that bug has cost me many hours today | 18:05 |
@snapcount | bugs suxk | 18:05 |
@snapcount | I spent a lot of time on the one I just told you about too | 18:06 |
@snapcount | about 5-6 hours | 18:06 |
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@snapcount | thx for helping with bugs btw | 18:06 |
@snapcount | I really appreciate it | 18:06 |
MrHairgrease | it's not in sf.net but when you upload a file or an image the privileges are not set correctly | 18:06 |
MrHairgrease | If you use a filepile that adds to the complexity | 18:06 |
MrHairgrease | but I didn't realse that at first | 18:07 |
MrHairgrease | frustrations | 18:07 |
MrHairgrease | but it's almost tested | 18:07 |
MrHairgrease | I'll put it in SVN this afternoon. | 18:07 |
@snapcount | cool | 18:07 |
@snapcount | rock on =) | 18:07 |
MrHairgrease | good idea! | 18:08 |
MrHairgrease | time for a you-know-what | 18:08 |
@snapcount | stripper? | 18:08 |
@snapcount | new car | 18:08 |
@snapcount | road trip | 18:08 |
MrHairgrease | yes | 18:09 |
@snapcount | all three! | 18:09 |
MrHairgrease | and a beer | 18:09 |
crythias | hair frosting. | 18:09 |
* snapcount cheers | 18:09 |
MrHairgrease | refreshing! | 18:09 |
crythias | did you take your celebratory medicine? | 18:09 |
@snapcount | haha | 18:09 |
MrHairgrease | being? | 18:09 |
MrHairgrease | very hard drugs? | 18:09 |
@snapcount | joke from yesterday | 18:10 |
crythias | Roy suffers from cd. :) celebratory dysfunction. | 18:10 |
@snapcount | I told crythias that I suffered from "premature celebration" | 18:10 |
@snapcount | and it turned into a joke about erectile disfunction | 18:10 |
@snapcount | pretty funny | 18:10 |
crythias | so I invented "ProLong" so you can have longer, louder celebrations. | 18:10 |
crythias | hrm. | 18:11 |
MrHairgrease | aha, so your the guy sending me those informative emails | 18:11 |
crythias | wow rafb cleans out fast | 18:12 |
MrHairgrease | If I didn't have email I would have never known my manlyhood was too short | 18:12 |
@snapcount | me either | 18:12 |
@snapcount | I used to think I was ok | 18:12 |
@snapcount | =) | 18:13 |
MrHairgrease | yeah, your poor girlfriend | 18:13 |
@snapcount | ouch | 18:13 |
* snapcount goes to a corner and pouts | 18:13 |
@snapcount | haha | 18:13 |
MrHairgrease | ouch? can't be hurt by a pinky | 18:13 |
@snapcount | calc MrHairgrease | 18:13 |
@WRE | MrHairgrease = eurohunk | 18:13 |
@snapcount | and this is the thanks I get... | 18:14 |
@snapcount | pinky and the brain | 18:14 |
crythias | narf | 18:14 |
MrHairgrease | msg wre ident whammo | 18:15 |
MrHairgrease | whoops | 18:15 |
crythias | http://www.burn.com/content/brain-waves/cheesewhiz.wav | 18:15 |
@WRE | <crythias> http://tinyurl.com/7augo | 18:15 |
@snapcount | haha | 18:16 |
MrHairgrease | calc pinky <snapcount> I used to think I was ok | 18:16 |
@snapcount | now you have to change your pass | 18:16 |
MrHairgrease | ho do i do that again | 18:16 |
@snapcount | at least you didn't have an embarrasing password | 18:16 |
MrHairgrease | ? | 18:16 |
@snapcount | "/msg wre pass yourpass" | 18:16 |
MrHairgrease | I'm getting the (17:17:24) WRE <AUTO-REPLY> : is away: (Auto-Away after 10 mins) [BX-MsgLog On] message again | 18:17 |
MrHairgrease | wre does not like me anymore i guess | 18:17 |
@snapcount | I'll ident you | 18:17 |
@snapcount | and then he will listen | 18:17 |
MrHairgrease | do that | 18:17 |
crythias | this is JT's! http://www.burn.com/content/brain-waves/i-don't-see-it.wav | 18:18 |
@WRE | <crythias> http://tinyurl.com/cj5jw | 18:18 |
crythias | grr. | 18:18 |
crythias | http://www.burn.com/content/brain-waves/no-money.wav | 18:19 |
@WRE | <crythias> http://tinyurl.com/b9pdt | 18:19 |
@snapcount | ok try now | 18:19 |
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@snapcount | I think it's /msg wre pass oldpass newpass | 18:20 |
MrHairgrease | ah | 18:21 |
MrHairgrease | like that? | 18:21 |
MrHairgrease | still getting the same message | 18:21 |
crythias | http://www.burn.com/content/brain-waves/plan-that-works.wav | 18:23 |
@WRE | <crythias> http://tinyurl.com/8m4sp | 18:23 |
@snapcount | that reminds me | 18:24 |
@snapcount | I finally got my website up | 18:24 |
@snapcount | thanks for that link crythias | 18:24 |
@snapcount | those designs were pretty decent | 18:24 |
crythias | :} | 18:24 |
@snapcount | I wound up using one of them | 18:24 |
@snapcount | modified a bit of course | 18:24 |
@snapcount | but it let me have a nice looking wg site in about an hour | 18:25 |
@snapcount | all done in CSS | 18:25 |
@snapcount | was very nice | 18:25 |
crythias | kewl :) | 18:25 |
crythias | Yaknow, "Resident Evil" and "Game of the Year" doesn't exactly match for me for some reason. | 18:29 |
@snapcount | !dubya | 18:31 |
@WRE | "If I'm the president, we're going to have emergency-room care, we're going to have gag orders." | 18:31 |
crythias | Holy cow. http://www.gilby.com/unicycling/photos/2wheeler/ | 18:43 |
@WRE | <crythias> http://tinyurl.com/gv | 18:43 |
crythias | who is he? | 18:44 |
crythias | he's the guy who made tinyurl.com | 18:44 |
crythias | yeay. | 18:44 |
MrHairgrease | well it's in svn | 19:19 |
MrHairgrease | time to go home | 19:19 |
@snapcount | later | 19:21 |
@snapcount | thx for the help | 19:21 |
MrHairgrease | bye | 19:21 |
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perlDreamer | ahoy, snapcount | 21:03 |
perlDreamer | be thee bug fixin' today? | 21:03 |
@snapcount | trying | 21:03 |
@snapcount | I'm neck and neck with the support monster | 21:03 |
@snapcount | I close one | 21:04 |
@snapcount | he opens one | 21:04 |
@snapcount | I think I'm winning though | 21:04 |
@snapcount | the amt of support coming in this week has been insane | 21:04 |
@snapcount | very weird | 21:04 |
perlDreamer | 6.8 | 21:04 |
@snapcount | mostly | 21:04 |
@snapcount | a lot of them are people finding bugs | 21:04 |
perlDreamer | that's good | 21:05 |
@snapcount | I think I just found another one | 21:05 |
perlDreamer | me, too | 21:05 |
@snapcount | if you have like 300 children and you use the asset manager and go to the parent | 21:05 |
@snapcount | the children aren't listed | 21:05 |
@snapcount | it just lists no children at all | 21:05 |
@snapcount | what's yours | 21:05 |
perlDreamer | this is running from a test | 21:06 |
perlDreamer | all of a sudden, $session{dbh} gets lost | 21:06 |
@snapcount | lost? | 21:07 |
@snapcount | like loses connection to the database? | 21:07 |
perlDreamer | not an object anymore | 21:07 |
@snapcount | hmm | 21:07 |
perlDreamer | nm | 21:07 |
perlDreamer | it's always bad to have the call to "cleanup" before tests | 21:08 |
@snapcount | $self->isNaB('dbh_handle_disappears'); | 21:08 |
perlDreamer | isNaB? | 21:08 |
@snapcount | that's kinda like isNaN | 21:08 |
@snapcount | Not a Number | 21:08 |
perlDreamer | so what's B? | 21:09 |
@snapcount | I think it's a java or javascript notation | 21:09 |
@snapcount | Not a Bug | 21:09 |
@snapcount | =) | 21:09 |
@snapcount | if we could just get someone to write a isNaB method | 21:10 |
@snapcount | we would be a lot quicker at this whole bug fixing thing | 21:10 |
perlDreamer | or if we had users who wrote sane bug reports | 21:10 |
@snapcount | I think it would be easier to write the method | 21:11 |
@snapcount | lol | 21:11 |
perlDreamer | how about a ftB method? | 21:13 |
perlDreamer | $WebGUI->ftB(sf_ref => 34532123); | 21:14 |
@snapcount | there you go | 21:14 |
@snapcount | does the f mean "find" or "fix" | 21:14 |
perlDreamer | fix, of course | 21:14 |
perlDreamer | similar to Perl's DWIM module | 21:14 |
@snapcount | good man, good man | 21:14 |
@snapcount | what is that | 21:14 |
@snapcount | geez | 21:18 |
perlDreamer | ? | 21:18 |
@snapcount | I try to open the asset manager | 21:18 |
@snapcount | and its taking forever | 21:18 |
perlDreamer | 300 kids | 21:18 |
@snapcount | there's only 5004 pages | 21:18 |
@snapcount | under home | 21:18 |
@snapcount | my laptop is going to melt | 21:18 |
perlDreamer | get it off your lap | 21:19 |
@snapcount | onto what | 21:19 |
@snapcount | my piii 450 dev box | 21:19 |
perlDreamer | something metal | 21:19 |
perlDreamer | non flammable | 21:19 |
@snapcount | that will make it sloooower | 21:19 |
* snapcount is slow today | 21:19 |
@snapcount | 6337 nobody 25 0 142m 132m 5468 R 73.9 16.9 3:40.24 httpd | 21:20 |
@snapcount | webgui is being nice at least | 21:20 |
@snapcount | not taking all of the resources | 21:20 |
perlDreamer | $bug->close() | 21:21 |
@snapcount | you fixed it? | 21:21 |
perlDreamer | yeah | 21:21 |
perlDreamer | IP filter for Visitor | 21:21 |
* snapcount slides Colin a beer | 21:21 |
perlDreamer | Martin is fixing bugs,too | 21:22 |
@snapcount | still | 21:22 |
@snapcount | I thought he went home | 21:22 |
@snapcount | it's like two days in the future where he is or something | 21:22 |
@snapcount | I think | 21:22 |
perlDreamer | now to forward port | 21:23 |
@snapcount | the fun part | 21:23 |
perlDreamer | not too bad | 21:24 |
perlDreamer | merging in SVN is way better than CVS | 21:24 |
@snapcount | I meant when you have to adapt the change to be 6.9 compatible | 21:24 |
perlDreamer | yeah. That's not too fun | 21:24 |
@snapcount | hehe | 21:24 |
@snapcount | I hope peeps are remembering to do that | 21:25 |
perlDreamer | me 2 | 21:25 |
perlDreamer | I'm starting to feel like the indentation nazi. | 21:28 |
@snapcount | !dubya | 21:40 |
@WRE | "A tax cut is really one of the anecdotes to coming out of an economic illness." | 21:40 |
perlDreamer | !exit | 21:41 |
perlDreamer | !eval {warn "this is not a good idea"} | 21:41 |
perlDreamer | shields up! Red Alert! | 22:02 |
perlDreamer | new prereq's for WG 6.9 | 22:02 |
@snapcount | really | 22:03 |
@snapcount | what are they | 22:03 |
perlDreamer | Net::Subnets | 22:03 |
perlDreamer | maybe more | 22:03 |
perlDreamer | Crypt::Blowfish | 22:06 |
perlDreamer | MIME::Entity | 22:17 |
@snapcount | yeah | 22:17 |
@snapcount | err | 22:17 |
@snapcount | yay! rather | 22:17 |
@snapcount | two more bugs identified | 22:17 |
perlDreamer | identified = found or identified = diagnosed? | 22:18 |
@snapcount | found | 22:18 |
@snapcount | support requests are turning out to be our best qa tool | 22:18 |
perlDreamer | did you figure out the Asset problem you were working on earlier? | 22:19 |
@snapcount | yeah | 22:19 |
@snapcount | apparently you can paste a CR/LF into an asset title | 22:20 |
@snapcount | and that breaks the html that is generated in func=manageAssets | 22:20 |
perlDreamer | uh oh | 22:20 |
@snapcount | weird | 22:20 |
perlDreamer | so need to scan the database and remove them? | 22:20 |
@snapcount | also, their are anchor tags that are closed like this: <\/a> | 22:20 |
@snapcount | which is more of a minor thing | 22:21 |
@snapcount | I'm opening trackers for those now | 22:21 |
perlDreamer | how are we doing on EMS? | 22:27 |
@snapcount | I haven't touched it in a week | 22:27 |
perlDreamer | okay | 22:27 |
@snapcount | damn... just got two more login requests | 22:27 |
perlDreamer | just wanted to make sure there isn't a bunch of code to be labeled | 22:27 |
@snapcount | no need to scan the db | 22:28 |
@snapcount | it was just on one client's site | 22:28 |
@snapcount | it's not in wg default code/content | 22:29 |
perlDreamer | what I mean is, maybe we should include a scan of the user's database in the upgrade script to remove characters like this to prevent other users from having the same problem | 22:29 |
@snapcount | that might be a good idea | 22:30 |
@snapcount | you have to be really careful doing stuff like that though | 22:30 |
@snapcount | obliterate someones site... oops =) | 22:30 |
perlDreamer | blooey | 22:31 |
@snapcount | webblooey | 22:32 |
@snapcount | just got a lead on the dataform problem | 22:34 |
perlDreamer | cool! | 22:34 |
perlDreamer | so it's real? | 22:34 |
@snapcount | you have to wait a day before the problem starts occuring | 22:34 |
@snapcount | supposedly | 22:34 |
perlDreamer | no way | 22:34 |
@snapcount | that's what he said | 22:34 |
perlDreamer | one day.... | 22:35 |
@snapcount | my guess is when something in runHourly goes | 22:35 |
perlDreamer | anything in the log file | 22:35 |
@snapcount | so not exactly one day | 22:35 |
@snapcount | don't know... easy to test though | 22:35 |
@snapcount | just force runHourly to run everything now | 22:35 |
@snapcount | and see if it breaks the form | 22:35 |
perlDreamer | I'm in the middle of the 6.9 add user bug | 22:36 |
perlDreamer | maybe I'll try it next | 22:36 |
@snapcount | oh I'll do it | 22:36 |
@snapcount | i was just saying | 22:36 |
perlDreamer | ah, okay | 22:36 |
@snapcount | then again, this may be hogwash | 22:36 |
perlDreamer | **suspecting clean hogs | 22:36 |
* perlDreamer suspects clean hogs | 22:37 |
@snapcount | hehe | 22:38 |
perlDreamer | do you know how to do this 6.8-ish code in 6.9? $session{form}{uid} = $u->userId unless ($isSecondary); | 22:39 |
@snapcount | $self->session->form->get("uid") = $self->session->user->get("uid") unless ... | 22:41 |
perlDreamer | ->get can be an lvalue? | 22:41 |
perlDreamer | this is an assignment | 22:41 |
@snapcount | oh | 22:41 |
perlDreamer | yeah | 22:42 |
@snapcount | duh | 22:42 |
@snapcount | hehe | 22:42 |
perlDreamer | I'm wondering if this is dead code. | 22:42 |
perlDreamer | I'm going to leave it and go to the next snapcount bug | 22:43 |
perlDreamer | I should give a mini talk on perl quoting constructs at the next WUC | 22:46 |
perlDreamer | this is ridiculous | 22:46 |
@snapcount | the only way I can see to set a form session var | 22:47 |
@snapcount | is to meddle with session->request | 22:47 |
@snapcount | which probably isn't good practice | 22:47 |
perlDreamer | not unless you're writing tests :) | 22:47 |
@snapcount | we should be reading the value from the post into a var somewhere in the beginning | 22:48 |
perlDreamer | I'm guessing that the code is dead. It might have been used at some point, but isn't anymore. | 22:48 |
@snapcount | and then screwing with it | 22:48 |
@snapcount | oh | 22:48 |
@snapcount | imagine that | 22:49 |
@snapcount | sf is down again | 22:49 |
perlDreamer | can't handle the WG bug submission load | 22:49 |
@snapcount | LMAO | 22:49 |
perlDreamer | This is an upaid advertisement: | 22:50 |
perlDreamer | Want to lose a quick 15 pounds, no dieting and no exercise? | 22:50 |
perlDreamer | Head on over to #webgui and wait for a great joke | 22:50 |
perlDreamer | then you can LYAO and fit in those jeans again | 22:50 |
@snapcount | there you go | 22:50 |
perlDreamer | HTML bug fixed | 22:52 |
@snapcount | the changelog for this release is going to be like a mile long | 22:53 |
perlDreamer | about the HTML bug with bad links \/a | 22:56 |
perlDreamer | in javascript strings does slash '/' need to be escaped? | 22:56 |
@snapcount | ummm | 22:57 |
@snapcount | I don't think so | 22:58 |
perlDreamer | I don't think so either. | 22:58 |
perlDreamer | I'll ask Dr AJAX | 22:58 |
@snapcount | maybe in a regex or something | 22:58 |
perlDreamer | Form::Text.pm is used all over the place as a baseclass for other form elements | 23:12 |
perlDreamer | I fixed the newline problem in Text.pm, and quickly scanned all other form elements that use it _and_ have their own getValueFromPost method. | 23:15 |
perlDreamer | should we skip the database scan? | 23:15 |
perlDreamer | I'm thinking we should | 23:15 |
@snapcount | yeah | 23:15 |
@snapcount | we'll keep an eye out for postings about it on the forums | 23:16 |
@snapcount | it's unlikely someone would do it anyway | 23:16 |
perlDreamer | someone is testing 6.9 | 23:19 |
@snapcount | what? | 23:19 |
perlDreamer | SF is back up. | 23:19 |
perlDreamer | "wmvanoijen" has posted 4 new 6.9 bugs | 23:20 |
@snapcount | cool | 23:20 |
perlDreamer | there are only like 17 6.8 bugs | 23:21 |
@snapcount | a lot have been closed | 23:22 |
@snapcount | thanks to people like you | 23:23 |
perlDreamer | have you had any luck with the DataForm? | 23:24 |
@snapcount | still doing support | 23:25 |
@snapcount | at this point I don't think I'll get to do any bugfixing until sunday | 23:26 |
@snapcount | but the good news is | 23:26 |
@snapcount | that it's all I'll be doing | 23:26 |
--- Day changed Sat Feb 11 2006 |
perlDreamer | at least you have something to do | 00:01 |
@snapcount | this is true | 00:03 |
@snapcount | being busy is a *good* thing | 00:03 |
perlDreamer | I would love to have something to work on for $dayJob | 00:03 |
@snapcount | so do you just sit in the office and work on WG | 00:04 |
perlDreamer | pretty much | 00:04 |
@snapcount | cool | 00:04 |
@snapcount | so you get paid by $dayJob to work on WG | 00:04 |
@snapcount | that's awesome | 00:04 |
perlDreamer | yeah | 00:04 |
perlDreamer | but not good for that feeling of job security | 00:04 |
@snapcount | we should put your employer in the credits | 00:04 |
@snapcount | yeah... that would suck | 00:05 |
perlDreamer | I wouldn't do that | 00:05 |
@snapcount | I was joking | 00:06 |
perlDreamer | okay, hard to tell over IM | 00:06 |
@snapcount | hehe | 00:06 |
@snapcount | I know | 00:06 |
perlDreamer | on the dataform bug, which user gave feedback? | 00:38 |
perlDreamer | was it unable to move fields or disappearing fields? | 00:39 |
@snapcount | disappearing | 00:39 |
perlDreamer | I'll give it a shot | 00:39 |
@snapcount | perlDreamer is a wild man! | 00:39 |
@snapcount | bug killin' crazy | 00:40 |
perlDreamer | bored stiff? | 00:40 |
* snapcount hands perlDreamer an Orkin shirt | 00:40 |
@snapcount | me? | 00:40 |
perlDreamer | me | 00:40 |
@snapcount | oh | 00:40 |
@snapcount | heh | 00:40 |
perlDreamer | no luck with the Hourly script | 00:54 |
@snapcount | that bug is driving me nutz | 00:55 |
@snapcount | you still can't reproduce eh | 00:55 |
perlDreamer | we don't have enough info to debug it | 00:55 |
perlDreamer | no | 00:55 |
@snapcount | all we have are symptoms | 00:56 |
@snapcount | did you try editing the dataform after running all of the runhourly scripts | 00:57 |
perlDreamer | just the fields | 00:57 |
perlDreamer | I'll try the dataform quick | 00:57 |
@snapcount | maybe shove some data in it | 00:57 |
perlDreamer | did that | 00:59 |
perlDreamer | you know, if he's wrong about his version, this sounds like a 6.8.4 Form bug | 01:04 |
@snapcount | no... it's a 6.8.5 site | 01:05 |
@snapcount | I'm sure | 01:05 |
perlDreamer | do you know the URL? | 01:07 |
@snapcount | Originally this was reported as happening after an upgrade | 01:10 |
@snapcount | I just remembered that | 01:10 |
@snapcount | but we tried that didn't we | 01:11 |
perlDreamer | no | 01:11 |
perlDreamer | there was a recent bug involving dataForm field data. I'll track it down | 01:12 |
perlDreamer | do you know which version Aaron upgraded from? | 01:15 |
@snapcount | Well, I've spoken to John about it | 01:15 |
@snapcount | from donorware | 01:15 |
@snapcount | he said it happened after the 6.8.4 -> 6.8.5 upgrade | 01:15 |
perlDreamer | there's nothing in the upgrade script for that upgrade that looks dangerous | 01:17 |
@snapcount | yeah... I know | 01:17 |
@snapcount | I'm wondering if they just didn't notice | 01:17 |
perlDreamer | okay, I need your superior hacking skills for a sec | 01:28 |
perlDreamer | are you busy? | 01:29 |
@snapcount | hello | 01:30 |
perlDreamer | no, it's not what I thought it was | 01:31 |
perlDreamer | I got mislead by useAssetId in setCollateral | 01:31 |
perlDreamer | I thought you had to pass it to it, but it gets generated inside setCollateral | 01:31 |
@snapcount | well, you are supposed to send the assetId in the hash | 01:33 |
@snapcount | even if you use 1 | 01:33 |
perlDreamer | no, it gets pulled from $self | 01:33 |
perlDreamer | if useAssetId ne "0" | 01:33 |
@snapcount | I thought the API docs said to set it either way | 01:33 |
@snapcount | I could be mistaken though | 01:33 |
@snapcount | I trust you =) | 01:34 |
perlDreamer | headin' out | 03:32 |
perlDreamer | see y'all later | 03:32 |
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crythia1 | A ghost walks into a bar. "Give me a beer!" it wails at the bartender. "Sorry," the bartender said. "You've reached your limit. You're two sheets to the wind."' | 04:18 |
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crythias | I don't suppose there was ever clickable | 04:22 |
crythias | er.. draggable navigation. | 04:22 |
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crythias | http://www.google.com/search?q=brown+and+bubbly | 06:14 |
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perlDreamer | roy: you still up? monster | 06:23 |
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crythias | 2RLE4BS | 16:15 |
MrHairgrease | too real for bullshit? | 16:15 |
crythias | early | 16:17 |
MrHairgrease | no here it is | 16:18 |
MrHairgrease | it 15.30 or something where I am | 16:18 |
crythias | heh | 16:18 |
crythias | 0918 | 16:18 |
MrHairgrease | I'm almost finished with cloathing myself | 16:19 |
MrHairgrease | I took a shower some 3 hours ago or so | 16:19 |
crythias | lazy day, eh? | 16:19 |
MrHairgrease | No man | 16:19 |
MrHairgrease | I'm doing internationalisation for the SQLForm | 16:20 |
MrHairgrease | so that I can finally release it | 16:20 |
crythias | :):) | 16:20 |
MrHairgrease | Writing docs is not my favorite passtime though | 16:20 |
MrHairgrease | actually it sucks | 16:20 |
MrHairgrease | But tonight Len is comming to Delft | 16:21 |
MrHairgrease | so that will probably be fun | 16:21 |
pbmdawg | it's a blizzard here. | 16:40 |
crythias | oh? Balmy 70s here. | 16:44 |
crythias | kidding. 54 | 16:45 |
MrHairgrease | Here it's about 5 degrees or something. Very boring gray weather. | 16:46 |
crythias | 68.1 °F / 20.1 °C Clear | 16:46 |
pbmdawg | 1 meter visibility. | 16:48 |
pbmdawg | "whiteout" they call it | 16:48 |
crythias | 2WYT2DR | 16:51 |
pbmdawg | 2WYT2DY | 16:56 |
crythias | WYTRAPR | 16:58 |
crythias | brown and bubbly | 17:05 |
pbmdawg | augh; what was that from | 17:07 |
crythias | Superbowl | 17:24 |
crythias | Pepsi slogan | 17:24 |
pbmdawg | oh yeah | 17:40 |
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pbmdawg | !dubya | 01:09 |
@WRE | "Reading is the basics for all learning." | 01:09 |
pbmdawg | !dubya | 01:10 |
@WRE | "If I'm the president, we're going to have emergency-room care, we're going to have gag orders." | 01:10 |
pbmdawg | !dubya | 01:10 |
@WRE | "Kosovians can move back in." | 01:10 |
pbmdawg | !dubya | 01:10 |
@WRE | "The woman who knew that I had dyslexia--I never interviewed her." | 01:10 |
@snapcount | you still need help? | 01:10 |
pbmdawg | oh yeah | 01:10 |
@snapcount | I was afk | 01:10 |
pbmdawg | i noticed | 01:10 |
pbmdawg | 22 hours | 01:10 |
@snapcount | yeah... have to do other things in life | 01:11 |
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pbmdawg | wb | 01:28 |
crythias | howdy | 01:28 |
crythias | 6.9 versus 7.0? | 01:29 |
pbmdawg | fight! | 01:29 |
crythias | I think I'm going to say 6.9 is a must. | 01:29 |
crythias | I might not understand everything, but Workflow isn't even a thought yet. | 01:30 |
crythias | well, ok, it's a thought, but unless there is something more concrete on implementation, ... | 01:30 |
crythias | it's a potential API change, which shouldn't be on 7 | 01:31 |
crythias | I guess that's a point to be discussed. | 01:31 |
crythias | it'd be nice to say 6.9 is 7.0 RC | 01:32 |
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crythias | the heck? | 01:55 |
crythias | all of a sudden, my screen goes black. | 01:55 |
@snapcount | screen saver? | 02:37 |
@snapcount | power saving | 02:38 |
crythias | had to hit power and fscking new boot. | 02:44 |
@snapcount | that sounds like a windows feature =) | 02:44 |
crythias | likely part of my attempt to get flash to work in firefox. | 02:44 |
crythias | says it's unstable | 02:46 |
crythias | I don't think we should skip 6.9 release. | 02:46 |
crythias | by we, I mean you. | 02:46 |
crythias | :) | 02:46 |
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crythias | hi | 03:00 |
crythias | love these 80's movies. | 03:07 |
crythias | Guy: "I used to be in a band. You know Bruce Springsteen? .... I have lots of his albums." | 03:08 |
crythias | Fry: Make up some emotions and tell her you have them. | 03:32 |
@snapcount | oy | 03:33 |
@snapcount | see you guys tommorow | 03:33 |
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pbmdawg | welcome! | 04:16 |
crythias | thank you | 04:16 |
crythias | hee | 04:16 |
crythias | wow | 04:20 |
crythias | I'm a cartoon network geek. | 04:20 |
crythias | Got started watching this show... Zatch Bell. | 04:20 |
crythias | typical Trading Card Game commercial movie. | 04:21 |
crythias | tv show. | 04:21 |
crythias | cutish, but I wonder the age of who should be watching it. | 04:21 |
crythias | It's all "friends are important at any cost" type stuff. | 04:22 |
pbmdawg | oh | 04:23 |
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@snapcount | pbmdawg: do you know what the problem was with the dataforms? | 18:13 |
@snapcount | I see the bug is closed but nothing in the changelog | 18:13 |
pbmdawg | oh | 18:29 |
pbmdawg | yeah | 18:30 |
pbmdawg | i haven't committed the changelog yet | 18:30 |
pbmdawg | 'tis a long story | 18:30 |
pbmdawg | but basically | 18:30 |
pbmdawg | _toNull() in DataForm.pm wasn't converted to use the new tabId behavior when Colin implemented a related fix in 6.8.4 | 18:30 |
@snapcount | oh cool | 18:31 |
@snapcount | I'm glad you guys figured that out | 18:31 |
@snapcount | I'm going to work on bugs for a few hours now | 18:31 |
@snapcount | when I'm done we're going to do a release | 18:31 |
@snapcount | we've got quite a few fixes in already | 18:32 |
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pbmdawg | greaser | 18:34 |
MrHairgrease | hey | 18:34 |
@snapcount | hey matt: does the 6.8.6 upgrade work for you | 18:34 |
pbmdawg | don't know yet. | 18:34 |
pbmdawg | colin just created that file | 18:34 |
@snapcount | oh ok... | 18:35 |
pbmdawg | I think...... wait................. | 18:35 |
@snapcount | I think it's a problem in AssetTrash | 18:35 |
@snapcount | not the upgrade script | 18:35 |
pbmdawg | oh | 18:35 |
pbmdawg | did you update? | 18:35 |
@snapcount | 10 minutes ago | 18:35 |
pbmdawg | fixing; hold on. | 18:36 |
pbmdawg | 'twas my fault from yesterday | 18:36 |
@snapcount | np... thx | 18:36 |
pbmdawg | k; update now | 18:38 |
@snapcount | that did it | 18:41 |
@snapcount | thanks | 18:42 |
MrHairgrease | Question | 19:02 |
@snapcount | ooh boy | 19:02 |
* snapcount raises his hand | 19:02 |
MrHairgrease | When you add posts in the collab system... | 19:02 |
MrHairgrease | you can specify 'text', 'mixed text/html' etc. | 19:03 |
MrHairgrease | But when you set it to text... | 19:03 |
MrHairgrease | the result is a bunch of <p>'s in the final text | 19:03 |
MrHairgrease | that's of course due to the rich editor | 19:03 |
MrHairgrease | is that a bug? | 19:03 |
@snapcount | I think it is | 19:04 |
MrHairgrease | Ok | 19:04 |
MrHairgrease | but what would be the intended fix? | 19:04 |
MrHairgrease | the behaviour i mean | 19:04 |
@snapcount | well, see that's a good point | 19:04 |
@snapcount | how else can you seperate text | 19:04 |
MrHairgrease | convert </p> to <br>? | 19:04 |
@snapcount | I mean, you're displaying in a browser | 19:04 |
@snapcount | yeah | 19:04 |
MrHairgrease | and sitch all other formatting? | 19:04 |
@snapcount | but that's also html | 19:05 |
MrHairgrease | true | 19:05 |
@snapcount | if it should be just text, then technically that means no formatting at all | 19:05 |
@snapcount | which is worthless | 19:05 |
MrHairgrease | so no richeditor | 19:05 |
@snapcount | I think the intent is to strip out all but the most basic formatting | 19:05 |
@snapcount | like paragraphs and br | 19:05 |
@snapcount | i.e., no bold, fonts, etc | 19:06 |
MrHairgrease | Hmm | 19:06 |
@snapcount | I'd ask JT | 19:06 |
MrHairgrease | paragraphs should be converted to <br> s imho | 19:06 |
@snapcount | That makes sense to me | 19:06 |
@snapcount | it makes it even more basic | 19:06 |
MrHairgrease | yeah | 19:06 |
MrHairgrease | you could strip everything and wrap it in pre | 19:07 |
MrHairgrease | but that would suck very much | 19:07 |
@snapcount | lol | 19:07 |
MrHairgrease | fixed font width | 19:07 |
MrHairgrease | no good | 19:07 |
MrHairgrease | I'll email the list | 19:07 |
@snapcount | actually | 19:07 |
@snapcount | I think what that's for is if you're putting text into the editor that has no formatting and you want it displayed in html as it is in the text | 19:08 |
@snapcount | i.e., CR/LF are converted to an HTML equiv | 19:08 |
@snapcount | and 2 CR/LF are changed to paragraphs | 19:08 |
@snapcount | where selecting html means the text you are posting contains html tags | 19:08 |
MrHairgrease | yeah but the problem is that the richeditor wraps everything in paragraphs | 19:08 |
@snapcount | and you want them interpreted | 19:08 |
MrHairgrease | no | 19:09 |
MrHairgrease | I think an enter is a br two enters is <br><br> | 19:09 |
@snapcount | ok... that's fine with me | 19:09 |
@snapcount | I see your point | 19:09 |
pbmdawg | <br /><br /> | 19:09 |
MrHairgrease | purist | 19:09 |
@snapcount | heh | 19:09 |
@snapcount | I would ask the list just to make sure | 19:10 |
MrHairgrease | shall I ask on the list to be sure? | 19:10 |
@snapcount | haha | 19:10 |
pbmdawg | i'm not a purist. but whoever is insisting that webgui is xhtml 1.0 strict is. | 19:10 |
@snapcount | They are going to start their own fork of WebGUI called Web-Purey | 19:10 |
@snapcount | ah ha | 19:11 |
@snapcount | found the cause | 19:11 |
@snapcount | now I have to figure out how to fix it | 19:11 |
MrHairgrease | cause for what? | 19:11 |
@snapcount | [ 1429299 ] RTE Collateral Functions Break when Prev Proxy Cache On | 19:12 |
@snapcount | the urls look like this: /page?noCache=388484;84858?op=something | 19:12 |
@snapcount | s/?/; | 19:12 |
MrHairgrease | yeah | 19:13 |
MrHairgrease | I know of the feature | 19:13 |
MrHairgrease | never used it though | 19:13 |
@snapcount | anyway, that's the problem | 19:13 |
MrHairgrease | Just fixed another uploads related bug | 19:13 |
@snapcount | I have to figure out where tinymce makes those urls so I can fix it | 19:13 |
@snapcount | cool | 19:13 |
MrHairgrease | This one was easy though | 19:13 |
@snapcount | a bug is a bug | 19:14 |
@snapcount | and a fixed bug is a good thing =) | 19:14 |
MrHairgrease | Last friday one bug took me about the whole day | 19:14 |
@snapcount | those are fun | 19:14 |
MrHairgrease | quite a diffrent beast | 19:14 |
MrHairgrease | sadist! | 19:14 |
@snapcount | no, just sarcastic | 19:14 |
MrHairgrease | must be the timezone difference | 19:15 |
MrHairgrease | or the earth rays of course | 19:15 |
@snapcount | must be | 19:16 |
@snapcount | WebGUI/www/extras/tinymce2/jscripts/tiny_mce/plugins/pagetree/editor_plugin.js | 19:22 |
@snapcount | matt, can you help me | 19:22 |
@snapcount | I need some js guidance | 19:22 |
@snapcount | line 26 is the problem | 19:22 |
@snapcount | but I don't know the best way to fix it | 19:22 |
@snapcount | template['file'] = "../../../../../.." + getWebguiProperty ("pageURL") + '?op=richEditPageTree'; | 19:23 |
@snapcount | we need to use the ? if it's the first property and use a semi-colon otherwise | 19:23 |
MrHairgrease | cant you do a regex on getWebguiProperty ("pageURL") | 19:24 |
@snapcount | yeah | 19:24 |
@snapcount | thanks, I think that will work | 19:25 |
MrHairgrease | someting like if (getWebguiProperty ("pageURL").match(/\?/) { ; } else { ?} | 19:25 |
pbmdawg | back | 19:27 |
@snapcount | how about this | 19:27 |
@snapcount | //Check for proper get delimiter | 19:27 |
@snapcount | var seperator = ''; | 19:27 |
@snapcount | if (getWebguiProperty ("pageURL").match(/\?/) { seperator = ';' } else { seperator = '?'} | 19:27 |
@snapcount | template['file'] = "../../../../../.." + getWebguiProperty ("pageURL") + seperator + 'op=richEditPageTree'; | 19:27 |
MrHairgrease | does that work? | 19:27 |
@snapcount | I'm trying it now | 19:28 |
@snapcount | I'm a js retard so we'll see | 19:28 |
MrHairgrease | that's a familiar sentiment =) | 19:28 |
@snapcount | sweet | 19:31 |
@snapcount | that did it | 19:31 |
@snapcount | thx for the help | 19:31 |
MrHairgrease | np | 19:32 |
@snapcount | now I have to look through all of these and make sure there aren't others | 19:32 |
MrHairgrease | I'm gonna continue writing hover help for the SQLForm | 19:32 |
* MrHairgrease sighs deeply | 19:32 |
@snapcount | documentation.... fun stuff | 19:32 |
MrHairgrease | gotta love vim | 19:33 |
pbmdawg | growl | 20:05 |
* snapcount throws pbmdawg a slice of Papa Johns | 20:05 |
MrHairgrease | Papa's Johns? | 20:06 |
MrHairgrease | eew | 20:06 |
@snapcount | they have Papa Johns over on your side of the world? | 20:07 |
MrHairgrease | don't think so | 20:07 |
MrHairgrease | what are those? | 20:07 |
@snapcount | did you try it while in the states? | 20:07 |
@snapcount | it's a pizza restaurant | 20:07 |
MrHairgrease | Oh ok. | 20:07 |
MrHairgrease | I'm not really a pizza person anyway | 20:07 |
* snapcount gasps | 20:07 |
MrHairgrease | I *hate* cheese | 20:07 |
@snapcount | lol | 20:08 |
@snapcount | that's funny | 20:08 |
@snapcount | I don't know why | 20:08 |
MrHairgrease | I rather eat something with garlic | 20:08 |
@snapcount | but that's really funny | 20:08 |
MrHairgrease | and pepper | 20:08 |
MrHairgrease | Chinese, mexican whatever | 20:08 |
MrHairgrease | or just plain dutch food | 20:08 |
@snapcount | that's good stuff also | 20:08 |
MrHairgrease | yeah | 20:08 |
MrHairgrease | i know | 20:08 |
pbmdawg | p.o.s. perl hashes | 20:10 |
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usr-src | hello | 20:11 |
@snapcount | hi there | 20:11 |
pbmdawg | hey usr-src | 20:11 |
MrHairgrease | yo | 20:11 |
usr-src | pretty cool project for such a small group of developers! | 20:11 |
usr-src | and mmm! perl! | 20:12 |
MrHairgrease | thanks | 20:12 |
MrHairgrease | perl = good | 20:12 |
* usr-src nods and smiles | 20:12 |
pbmdawg | what makes you think the group of developers is small | 20:13 |
@snapcount | MrHairgrease: is the upload method a drop in replacement for tmpFileName in MP2? | 20:14 |
MrHairgrease | dunno | 20:14 |
MrHairgrease | never heard of those | 20:14 |
MrHairgrease | I think matt knows | 20:14 |
@snapcount | they are used in HttpProxy | 20:14 |
pbmdawg | roy: what | 20:14 |
pbmdawg | oh | 20:14 |
pbmdawg | oh man. | 20:15 |
usr-src | pbmdawg, well. when you look at the freenode-registry project, the channel is full of people. but they get nothing done | 20:15 |
MrHairgrease | Hmm, I'm writing docs, so the same thing goes for me I guess =) | 20:15 |
@snapcount | most of our developers are anti-social | 20:15 |
usr-src | oh no | 20:16 |
MrHairgrease | Except for the Euro hunks | 20:16 |
* usr-src hides | 20:16 |
pbmdawg | oh. the size of the webgui channel is not related at all to the size of the group of developers | 20:16 |
@snapcount | calc MrHairgrease | 20:16 |
@WRE | MrHairgrease = eurohunk | 20:16 |
MrHairgrease | we actually talk to females | 20:16 |
MrHairgrease | and cuddle them =) | 20:16 |
@snapcount | lol | 20:16 |
usr-src | lol | 20:16 |
pbmdawg | some of us marry them. | 20:16 |
@snapcount | sucker | 20:16 |
usr-src | :-p | 20:16 |
MrHairgrease | you're married, matt? | 20:17 |
pbmdawg | of course | 20:17 |
MrHairgrease | sucker :P | 20:17 |
usr-src | lol | 20:17 |
MrHairgrease | for how long? | 20:17 |
pbmdawg | everyone at plainblack is married except for roy. | 20:17 |
MrHairgrease | Oh really? | 20:17 |
MrHairgrease | when did jt marry then | 20:17 |
pbmdawg | oh, soon. | 20:18 |
@snapcount | he's still in negotiations | 20:18 |
@snapcount | but they are supposed to close soon | 20:18 |
@snapcount | lol | 20:18 |
MrHairgrease | yeah | 20:18 |
MrHairgrease | that's what I heard in vegas | 20:18 |
@snapcount | end of the year | 20:18 |
MrHairgrease | cool | 20:18 |
MrHairgrease | I'll send him a card when the time is there | 20:18 |
@snapcount | I'm really getting sick of apache's meaningless error messages | 20:19 |
pbmdawg | martin: did you check out the performance profiler | 20:19 |
@snapcount | apache: something is wrong | 20:19 |
MrHairgrease | Only a bit | 20:19 |
@snapcount | ooh thanks | 20:19 |
@snapcount | for nothing | 20:19 |
MrHairgrease | haven't seen the table mode yet | 20:19 |
MrHairgrease | write docs first | 20:20 |
pbmdawg | usr-src: care to join us? | 20:20 |
pbmdawg | the todo list is well-defined. | 20:20 |
pbmdawg | if not well-recorded. | 20:20 |
@snapcount | we are hatching a diabolical scheme to infiltrate Papa Johns Pizza and use them as a stepping stone for world domination | 20:21 |
pbmdawg | no seriously. | 20:30 |
MrHairgrease | Is this understandable by mere mortals? http://rafb.net/paste/results/5wDa1k59.html | 20:39 |
@WRE | <MrHairgrease> http://tinyurl.com/avs3f | 20:39 |
@snapcount | I grok it | 20:43 |
MrHairgrease | Well I should be safe then | 20:43 |
MrHairgrease | thanks | 20:43 |
pbmdawg | colin will fix the misspellings :) | 20:43 |
MrHairgrease | yeah | 20:43 |
MrHairgrease | very reassuring | 20:43 |
MrHairgrease | =) | 20:43 |
MrHairgrease | no sarcasm intended btw. | 20:44 |
MrHairgrease | really meant that | 20:45 |
pbmdawg | if it gets included in the core, i mean. | 20:45 |
pbmdawg | which could happen if it meets certain criteria | 20:46 |
MrHairgrease | being? | 20:46 |
pbmdawg | if it's set by default to not modify a webgui site db without lots of rigamarole | 20:47 |
MrHairgrease | I won't let you use the default database link | 20:47 |
pbmdawg | as in... it uses its own or other databases | 20:47 |
pbmdawg | well, you could create another database link that uses the same site db credentials and dsn | 20:47 |
MrHairgrease | so you cannot do things to the WG db unless you create a seperate dblink in which you connect to the webgui db | 20:48 |
pbmdawg | well, I like it | 20:48 |
MrHairgrease | you tried it already? | 20:48 |
pbmdawg | no | 20:48 |
MrHairgrease | It must be very good | 20:48 |
pbmdawg | we'll see if that's enough | 20:48 |
MrHairgrease | If you like it, just by the way it smells | 20:48 |
MrHairgrease | =) | 20:49 |
pbmdawg | no i mean I think that protection is enough. | 20:49 |
MrHairgrease | ok | 20:49 |
pbmdawg | i have a problem you guys | 20:49 |
MrHairgrease | We'll see what happens | 20:50 |
MrHairgrease | problem? | 20:50 |
@snapcount | ed? | 20:50 |
pbmdawg | ?op=editCommerceSettings | 20:50 |
MrHairgrease | yeah whats wrong with it | 20:50 |
pbmdawg | $session{setting}{commerceViewShoppingCartTemplateId} | 20:50 |
pbmdawg | is empty | 20:50 |
pbmdawg | except it isn't. | 20:50 |
@snapcount | ? | 20:51 |
MrHairgrease | Ah I nknow this one | 20:51 |
MrHairgrease | It's not using the settings api | 20:51 |
MrHairgrease | or it's a typo somewhere | 20:51 |
MrHairgrease | I thought I already fixed that | 20:51 |
MrHairgrease | but apparently not | 20:51 |
pbmdawg | not in 6.8 | 20:51 |
MrHairgrease | wait I'll mail you a file that presumably works | 20:52 |
pbmdawg | grrr | 20:54 |
MrHairgrease | check your mail | 20:55 |
pbmdawg | so procolix is fixing bugs for its customers but not in svn? | 20:55 |
MrHairgrease | probably forgot | 20:55 |
MrHairgrease | dunno | 20:55 |
MrHairgrease | I have been very busy the last few months | 20:55 |
MrHairgrease | And I already fixed bugs in 686 | 20:55 |
pbmdawg | that doesn't fix it | 20:56 |
MrHairgrease | Ok, then I don't know | 20:56 |
pbmdawg | hu | 20:59 |
pbmdawg | hum | 20:59 |
pbmdawg | in fact | 20:59 |
pbmdawg | $session{setting} is empty | 20:59 |
pbmdawg | wait; scratch that. | 20:59 |
MrHairgrease | well, that might have something to do with it =) | 20:59 |
pbmdawg | setting.commerceViewShoppingCartTemplateId = PBtmplVSC0000000000001 | 21:00 |
MrHairgrease | commerceViewShoppingCartTemplateId | 21:01 |
MrHairgrease | whoops | 21:01 |
pbmdawg | oh | 21:01 |
pbmdawg | i see the problem | 21:01 |
pbmdawg | $session{setting}{$_} = $session{form}{$_}; | 21:02 |
pbmdawg | needs to be at line 516 | 21:02 |
pbmdawg | that fixed it. | 21:03 |
pbmdawg | roy: I can finally see the checkout screen :) | 21:04 |
MrHairgrease | happy shopping! | 21:05 |
@snapcount | woo hoo | 21:07 |
pbmdawg | roy: can you wait until tonight to release 686 | 21:38 |
pbmdawg | I have to get this calendar fix done | 21:38 |
@snapcount | I have to be done with the release by 6:00p | 21:39 |
pbmdawg | oh. | 21:39 |
pbmdawg | so what's my deadline. | 21:39 |
@snapcount | I've got other stuff going on tonight that I can't miss | 21:39 |
@snapcount | basically, an hour | 21:39 |
pbmdawg | from now??? | 21:39 |
@snapcount | maybe a few minutes more | 21:39 |
@snapcount | yep | 21:39 |
pbmdawg | crap | 21:39 |
@snapcount | if you're close, I'll let you finish it up | 21:40 |
@snapcount | but the release takes about 3 hours to do | 21:40 |
pbmdawg | goodness... | 21:40 |
@snapcount | yeah... long process | 21:40 |
pbmdawg | including upgrading all the servers you mean? | 21:40 |
MrHairgrease | afk | 21:40 |
@snapcount | no... just plainblack, and demo | 21:41 |
@snapcount | I think I fixed the http proxy problem | 21:44 |
@snapcount | but google and wiki and yahoo don't seem to work | 21:44 |
@snapcount | I think they are using trickery | 21:44 |
@snapcount | for example | 21:44 |
@snapcount | their button text is "Google Search" | 21:44 |
@snapcount | the http proxy url encodes that to "Google%20Search" | 21:45 |
@snapcount | however | 21:45 |
@snapcount | if you do a search on google | 21:45 |
@snapcount | it is changed to "Google+Search" | 21:45 |
@snapcount | Where is there a form I can test this on? | 21:45 |
MrHairgrease | do a form post to the same page and look in the debug output | 21:52 |
MrHairgrease | that might do it | 21:52 |
@snapcount | I'm not following you | 21:53 |
@snapcount | I just proxied the CS on my website | 21:56 |
@snapcount | and I can go through the pages | 21:56 |
@snapcount | ok... it accepted a login on slashdot | 22:00 |
@snapcount | i.e., I proxied slashdot from my wg dev site and I could login | 22:01 |
@snapcount | so I guess it's fixed | 22:01 |
pbmdawg | but can you upload files through the proxy? ;) | 22:06 |
@snapcount | How would I test that | 22:07 |
pbmdawg | find a file upload box...? | 22:07 |
@snapcount | If this doesn't fix it someone can submit another bug report... | 22:08 |
@snapcount | I'm over it =) | 22:08 |
@snapcount | It's working best I can tell | 22:09 |
@snapcount | how's your calendar stuff coming matt? | 22:22 |
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@snapcount | do you need any help? | 22:23 |
pbmdawg | grr | 22:24 |
@snapcount | is that a yes? | 22:25 |
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usr-src | sorry for the nick flood | 00:04 |
MrHairgrease | later guys | 00:07 |
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@snapcount | see ya | 00:07 |
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crythias | ooh | 04:38 |
crythias | time to update faq | 04:38 |
pbmdawg | yeah | 04:38 |
pbmdawg | gawww | 04:39 |
pbmdawg | i swear that dataform thing was fixed.... | 04:41 |
crythias | oh, no. | 04:48 |
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lonki | hi guys | 14:02 |
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lonki | guys, just a quick question, are security bugs that are found in the 6.xx verions backported/fixed in the latest stable 5.x version? | 15:21 |
MrHairgrease | Is this bug also applicable to other versions than 6.8.5? | 15:23 |
lonki | yes, the one where lists with form data is visible to anyone | 15:24 |
MrHairgrease | Sorry, I'm not following you | 15:26 |
MrHairgrease | I was refering to - fixed a serious security bug that would allow user account creation using a well crafted url when anonymous registration is set to off. (Thanks to Luke Bartholemy for the patch) | 15:26 |
MrHairgrease | Since which version is that in WG? | 15:26 |
MrHairgrease | Or is it in all of them? | 15:26 |
lonki | hmm, ok, I did mean another bug, but is the one you mentioned fixed in 5.x too? | 15:26 |
MrHairgrease | I dunno | 15:27 |
MrHairgrease | That's why I'm asking | 15:27 |
MrHairgrease | Well | 15:27 |
MrHairgrease | if it is in 5.x it is probably not fixed | 15:27 |
MrHairgrease | but you can of course alway backport | 15:27 |
MrHairgrease | however to be certain you should ask one of the plainblack guys | 15:27 |
lonki | hmm, ok | 15:29 |
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pbmdawg | no, no new releases for anything less than 6.8.6 are being made | 15:38 |
lonki | pbmdawg, thanks for the info, that will help me decide some stuff | 15:43 |
lonki | prolly to move to something completely differen | 15:43 |
pbmdawg | why is that | 15:44 |
lonki | we do not have enough customers running on webgui to affort support | 15:44 |
lonki | and the update scripts suck (sorry) | 15:44 |
lonki | it is just costing us to much | 15:45 |
pbmdawg | do you mean *all* of the update scripts suck, or particular ones are causing you trouble | 15:46 |
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lonki | pbmdawg, some of them | 15:48 |
lonki | and I am not spending anymore time on it | 15:48 |
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@xdanger | imho. webgui 6.x upgrade scripts do a great job considering the changes in webgui =) | 16:17 |
lonki | not if you have to update from 5.5.4 | 16:18 |
MrHairgrease | upgrading can indeed be a pain sometimes | 16:20 |
MrHairgrease | however if you make sure that you've emtied your trash and purged disk cacches, a lot of problems can be avoided | 16:21 |
MrHairgrease | at least | 16:21 |
lonki | we just don't have enough customers to hire support, we might be switching to plone if we can test that a bit more | 16:21 |
MrHairgrease | that is our experience | 16:21 |
lonki | empty trash? | 16:21 |
MrHairgrease | yeah | 16:21 |
MrHairgrease | do that before upgrading | 16:22 |
lonki | which trash? | 16:22 |
pbmdawg | the upgrade from 6.2.11 to 6.3 doesn't handle trash well. | 16:22 |
MrHairgrease | all trash | 16:22 |
lonki | I never got passed 6.0.0 | 16:22 |
lonki | with the wre and 6.6.7 that is | 16:22 |
MrHairgrease | hmm | 16:23 |
MrHairgrease | never used the wre | 16:23 |
pbmdawg | lonki - you know you have to upgrade to 6.2.11 first, and then upgrade to 6.3...? | 16:24 |
lonki | pbmdawg, yes I know, but see ^^, I never could go byond 6.0.x | 16:25 |
MrHairgrease | lonki, do you have many custom wobjects? | 16:25 |
lonki | some of them yes, but we used a default site to test it | 16:26 |
MrHairgrease | weird | 16:26 |
pbmdawg | then why did you say 6.6.7 | 16:26 |
lonki | pbmdawg, we tried to updat to that version a while ago | 16:26 |
lonki | we did not succeed | 16:26 |
MrHairgrease | can't remember having that much trouble | 16:26 |
MrHairgrease | but it's a long time ago of course. | 16:27 |
MrHairgrease | lonki, have you checked out recent wg versions? | 16:27 |
pbmdawg | when I say you have to upgrade to 6.2.11 first, I mean you have to not have webgui 6.6.7 libraries on there. just 6.2.11. | 16:27 |
MrHairgrease | WG has come a long way since the crude 5.5 era | 16:27 |
lonki | MrHairgrease, nopes | 16:27 |
lonki | every hour I am spending on it will be to much, we need something that can be maintained by almost anyone | 16:28 |
lonki | but thank you all for the help, I might look at webgui when there are new stable versions | 16:30 |
pbmdawg | almost anyone is a pretty broad swath. | 16:30 |
lonki | pbmdawg, the fact is that I might be doing other projects and will not have the time to update, | 16:31 |
lonki | then some other sysop will have to do it | 16:31 |
lonki | some of them even without unix knowledge | 16:31 |
pbmdawg | heh heh. sysops without unix knowledge? is that possible? and you would consider letting them touch your unix machines? | 16:32 |
lonki | :-), not my descision | 16:32 |
lonki | brb | 16:33 |
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nbcccorp | hey, does anyone know what the regex would be to do a mod_rewrite of a url to change it's case to lowercase? so http://site.com/ThisUrl.PDF would become http://site.com/thisurl.pdf | 17:00 |
MrHairgrease | http://www.webmasterworld.com/forum92/5308.htm | 17:01 |
MrHairgrease | or google on mod_rewrite and lowercase | 17:02 |
nbcccorp | thx. I found the lowercase func but it doesn't seem to be working. I was hoping it was just something dumb by me. Will keep trying. | 17:04 |
MrHairgrease | ok | 17:04 |
MrHairgrease | good luck | 17:04 |
nbcccorp | better to be lucky than good. | 17:04 |
MrHairgrease | heh | 17:04 |
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lonki | hmm, RewriteCond ${lowercase:%{HTTP_HOST}|NONE} ^(.+)$ | 17:13 |
lonki | should work yes | 17:13 |
MrHairgrease | nbccorp, are you using wg 6.8.x? | 17:14 |
MrHairgrease | oh he's gone | 17:14 |
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MrHairgrease | question | 19:23 |
MrHairgrease | what's wrong if I get the following message using the wre | 19:23 |
MrHairgrease | [Mon Feb 13 18:21:08 2006] [error] [Mon Feb 13 18:21:08 2006] -e: Can't call method "www_view" on an undefined value at /data/WebGUI/ lib/WebGUI.pm line 121.\n | 19:24 |
crythias | space before lib? | 19:24 |
MrHairgrease | that's probably a typo | 19:25 |
MrHairgrease | joeri copy-pasted the message to me | 19:25 |
MrHairgrease | so that i could ask | 19:25 |
crythias | ok. Probably need more info as to what was happening when it occurred, version, etc. | 19:26 |
MrHairgrease | yeah | 19:26 |
MrHairgrease | Joeri's trying out the wre so we'll probably find out the problem | 19:27 |
MrHairgrease | just though I'd ask | 19:27 |
pbmdawg | martin | 19:27 |
MrHairgrease | yes | 19:27 |
pbmdawg | what version of wre; what version of webgui | 19:28 |
MrHairgrease | My guess | 19:28 |
MrHairgrease | is the latest and greatest | 19:28 |
MrHairgrease | Joeri's doing a job interview now | 19:28 |
MrHairgrease | so I can't ask | 19:28 |
MrHairgrease | It looks similar to misconfigured dsn or something | 19:29 |
pbmdawg | hiring your replacement? ;) | 19:29 |
MrHairgrease | probably my new minion | 19:32 |
MrHairgrease | I hope =) | 19:32 |
crythias | PFY :) | 19:35 |
MrHairgrease | GFY? | 19:35 |
MrHairgrease | oops | 19:35 |
crythias | From BOFH | 19:35 |
MrHairgrease | must have been listining to much to deadbolt | 19:35 |
MrHairgrease | I know the BOFH, but I can't recall the PFY | 19:36 |
crythias | Pimply Faced Youth. | 19:36 |
crythias | the minion | 19:36 |
MrHairgrease | but it's probably his evil minion right? | 19:36 |
crythias | yeah | 19:36 |
MrHairgrease | ah | 19:36 |
MrHairgrease | I remember | 19:36 |
crythias | "Hey, I've only got 1MB remaining of my 4MB quota, and I need to load a 3MB file. Fix it now!" "What's your username? *click click click* OK, you now have 4MB available." "so.. 7MB total?" "no, you have 4MB available." realization sinks in ... "ARRRG!!!" | 19:38 |
crythias | heh | 19:39 |
crythias | ahhh ywah. | 19:40 |
crythias | yeah | 19:40 |
* crythias nods his head. That's about right. | 19:40 |
MrHairgrease | I think you mean *clickety clickety click* | 19:40 |
crythias | heh | 19:40 |
MrHairgrease | I also no my classics | 19:40 |
MrHairgrease | even though I'm a pretty young eurohunk | 19:41 |
MrHairgrease | no = know btw | 19:41 |
crythias | Can't get over how much paper was used on that line printer during college. | 19:41 |
MrHairgrease | stupid fonetic thinking | 19:41 |
crythias | shunka shunka shunka | 19:41 |
MrHairgrease | I don't wanna know what you're thinking about right noww | 19:41 |
crythias | it's a 10 line PASCAL program, and takes 3 11x17 greenbar pages to print. | 19:42 |
crythias | line printers. | 19:42 |
crythias | glorious dot matrix. | 19:42 |
MrHairgrease | Yeah I know those to | 19:42 |
MrHairgrease | I mean | 19:43 |
MrHairgrease | I no dose two | 19:43 |
crythias | heh. | 19:43 |
MrHairgrease | English is so simple | 19:43 |
MrHairgrease | =) | 19:43 |
crythias | 2EZ4YOU | 19:43 |
MrHairgrease | you got it | 19:43 |
MrHairgrease | wait till you read the international messages in the SQLForm | 19:44 |
crythias | hee :) I think we need a License Tag i18n. | 19:44 |
crythias | DELENTRY | 19:44 |
crythias | DELEMALL | 19:45 |
crythias | FLDNAME | 19:45 |
crythias | MKDTAFRM | 19:45 |
crythias | well, 7 chars will be fun. | 19:45 |
crythias | and then we can do haiku i18n. | 19:45 |
crythias | This button you press | 19:46 |
crythias | Will do nothing, however | 19:46 |
crythias | many times you press. | 19:46 |
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pbmdawg | WebGUI Reloaded. | 22:45 |
pbmdawg | Snapcount Reloaded | 22:46 |
pbmdawg | Snapcount Unhinged | 22:46 |
crythias | my word. | 22:49 |
crythias | ignorant people suck. | 22:49 |
crythias | what's worse, they don't know they're ignorant. | 22:49 |
pbmdawg | they don't know what they don't know | 22:49 |
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crythias | I'm not apathetic. I just don't care. | 23:30 |
perlDreamer | those aren't synonyms? | 23:30 |
crythias | yeah | 23:31 |
perlDreamer | what are you apathetic about? | 23:31 |
crythias | nothin'. | 23:32 |
perlDreamer | phew | 23:32 |
perlDreamer | for a second, I thought you were talking about dataform bugs | 23:32 |
crythias | I gotta go. Did you read my humor post? | 23:32 |
perlDreamer | yes | 23:32 |
perlDreamer | I appreciate good haiku | 23:33 |
crythias | well, get busy :) | 23:33 |
crythias | haiku haiku.pm | 23:33 |
perlDreamer | coy.pm | 23:33 |
crythias | I thought it was fun. | 23:33 |
crythias | Delete this Entry. If you want to do something else, this is not it. | 23:34 |
crythias | hee | 23:34 |
crythias | hrm... | 23:34 |
crythias | I've got ideas. | 23:35 |
crythias | ttl84 | 23:35 |
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@snapcount | "my milkshake brings all the girls to the yard" | 23:35 |
perlDreamer | quoth snapcount | 23:37 |
perlDreamer | are you supporting today? | 23:39 |
pbmdawg | snapcount is braindead today | 23:40 |
pbmdawg | j/k | 23:40 |
perlDreamer | he did do a release last night | 23:40 |
perlDreamer | without telling anyone so that we could get last second fixes in | 23:41 |
@snapcount | I operate in stealth | 23:42 |
@snapcount | I am unpredictable and coy | 23:42 |
@snapcount | I am snapcount | 23:42 |
* snapcount flales his cloak | 23:42 |
perlDreamer | snapcount cannot spell: flails | 23:42 |
@snapcount | I have assistants that do that for me | 23:42 |
@snapcount | ya know | 23:42 |
@snapcount | spell check and stuff | 23:42 |
perlDreamer | :) | 23:43 |
@snapcount | bad spelers of the world untie | 23:43 |
@snapcount | =) | 23:43 |
@snapcount | we're doing probably 2 more 6.8 releases so no worries | 23:43 |
perlDreamer | okay | 23:43 |
perlDreamer | that poor fellow from pcbc is probably going to bust a blood vessel | 23:44 |
@snapcount | when we have more bugs and/or fixes I'll do another release | 23:44 |
@snapcount | why? | 23:44 |
@snapcount | the dataform guy | 23:44 |
perlDreamer | yeah | 23:44 |
@snapcount | I thought that was fixed | 23:44 |
perlDreamer | I'll try it on demo. | 23:44 |
perlDreamer | either that or he needs a clue bat | 23:45 |
@snapcount | pfft | 23:45 |
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perlDreamer | I just figured out that guy's bug from his board post. | 23:51 |
perlDreamer | it's a PEBKAC | 23:51 |
pbmdawg | ? | 23:51 |
@snapcount | cool | 23:51 |
perlDreamer | Problem Exists Between Keyboard and Chair | 23:51 |
perlDreamer | but we could help him a little | 23:51 |
@snapcount | damn it | 23:51 |
pbmdawg | what guy | 23:52 |
@snapcount | someone broke op=viewCart in head | 23:52 |
perlDreamer | allbygrace | 23:52 |
@snapcount | grrrrr | 23:52 |
perlDreamer | head 6.9? | 23:52 |
@snapcount | yes | 23:52 |
@snapcount | I hate that | 23:52 |
perlDreamer | wasn't broken before? | 23:52 |
@snapcount | no | 23:52 |
@snapcount | </pouting> | 23:52 |
perlDreamer | His problem is that he selected the Email Form template to be used to display the DataForm to the user. | 23:53 |
perlDreamer | It would be nice if we could prevent the user from shooting themselves in the foot with that one. | 23:54 |
@snapcount | IMO that's a bug | 23:54 |
pbmdawg | those templates need separate namespaces | 23:54 |
@snapcount | If a template doesn't work for that functionality why is it in that namespace? | 23:55 |
@snapcount | exactly | 23:55 |
perlDreamer | that's going to be hard to do. | 23:55 |
perlDreamer | there's no way to distinguish between any user submitted ones, is there? | 23:55 |
@snapcount | what do you mean? | 23:55 |
perlDreamer | it's trivial to create new namespaces | 23:55 |
perlDreamer | it's impossible to go and reassign all existing templates into those namespaces | 23:56 |
perlDreamer | we can do the WG default ones because we know their names/purposes | 23:56 |
pbmdawg | there's got to be some identifying portion of the email template | 23:56 |
perlDreamer | maybe | 23:56 |
perlDreamer | snapcount, there is forward merged %session stuff in www_editCommerceSettings | 23:57 |
pbmdawg | oops; ha; that's my fault | 23:57 |
pbmdawg | yet again | 23:57 |
@snapcount | honestly though, worst case they copy their existing template, delete it, make a new one and paste it | 23:57 |
pbmdawg | no wonder they told me to stop working on that | 23:57 |
perlDreamer | I've been doing that too. | 23:57 |
perlDreamer | snapcount: yes | 23:57 |
perlDreamer | should we do it? | 23:58 |
@snapcount | I dunno | 23:58 |
@snapcount | it kinda sux | 23:58 |
perlDreamer | p.s. I'll fix the session stuff real quick | 23:58 |
pbmdawg | thanks | 23:58 |
@snapcount | we should ask the list about that one | 23:58 |
pbmdawg | actually just remove that line | 23:58 |
perlDreamer | pbmdawg: why? | 23:58 |
pbmdawg | nm | 23:58 |
* pbmdawg slaps himself | 23:58 |
perlDreamer | get Joella to do it | 23:59 |
@snapcount | yeah | 23:59 |
* pbmdawg gets slapped by Cody | 23:59 |
@snapcount | then you could be on COPS maybe | 23:59 |
pbmdawg | only sailors use condoms, baby | 23:59 |
@snapcount | did I miss something? | 23:59 |
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@snapcount | nm | 00:00 |
pbmdawg | austin powers. | 00:00 |
@snapcount | ahh | 00:00 |
perlDreamer | Commerce code committed. | 00:00 |
perlDreamer | snapcount, let us know if that fixed it | 00:00 |
@snapcount | gracias amigo | 00:00 |
perlDreamer | de nada | 00:00 |
perlDreamer | Cual quier para mis amigos | 00:00 |
@snapcount | Which do you like for your friends? | 00:01 |
* snapcount got a C+ in Spanish II | 00:01 |
perlDreamer | I was trying to translate the German "etwas", which is anything, but I think I goofed | 00:01 |
* pbmdawg was getting a D in Spanish II before he realized he didn't need it (or Spanish I!) to graduate. | 00:02 |
@snapcount | I should've argued Perl as a language credit | 00:02 |
perlDreamer | Etwas fur mein freunden | 00:02 |
@snapcount | that fixed it | 00:03 |
@snapcount | thx | 00:03 |
perlDreamer | perl -wc reveals a world of bugs | 00:03 |
@snapcount | whoa | 00:08 |
@snapcount | don't you love it when you forget that you already did something you thought you still have to do | 00:09 |
perlDreamer | yes | 00:13 |
@snapcount | umm | 00:15 |
@snapcount | does debug not work in 6.9 | 00:16 |
perlDreamer | no se | 00:16 |
perlDreamer | Weis nicht | 00:16 |
perlDreamer | don't know | 00:16 |
@snapcount | I see | 00:16 |
perlDreamer | uh, duh, hrm | 00:16 |
@snapcount | begin debug1 | 00:16 |
@snapcount | I just had an apiphany | 00:19 |
@snapcount | I'm sure colin will correct my spelling | 00:19 |
@snapcount | but | 00:19 |
perlDreamer | epiphany | 00:19 |
@snapcount | I'm wondering if the EMS shouldn't use a lineage system | 00:20 |
@snapcount | it may simplify a lot of things | 00:20 |
@snapcount | but I don't want to overcomplicate it | 00:20 |
@snapcount | it would mean re-designing it though | 00:20 |
@snapcount | damn | 00:21 |
@snapcount | the code will be scarier but it will make things like identifying prereqs, etc easier | 00:21 |
@snapcount | and faster | 00:21 |
@snapcount | screw it | 00:22 |
@snapcount | I'll stick with what I've got; make it work; then make it better | 00:22 |
perlDreamer | good idea | 00:22 |
@snapcount | 3600 == 1 hour epoch right? | 00:26 |
pbmdawg | yah | 00:26 |
@snapcount | colin what is the correct way to set a default value for a radio list | 00:32 |
@snapcount | defaultValue => "key" | 00:33 |
pbmdawg | value | 00:33 |
@snapcount | oh | 00:33 |
pbmdawg | err | 00:33 |
pbmdawg | defaultValue | 00:33 |
pbmdawg | one of those | 00:33 |
pbmdawg | :) | 00:33 |
@snapcount | huh? | 00:34 |
pbmdawg | either value or defaultValue | 00:34 |
@snapcount | yeah, but what is it matching | 00:34 |
@snapcount | defaultValue => "value" | 00:34 |
@snapcount | defaultValue => [key] | 00:34 |
@snapcount | etc | 00:34 |
pbmdawg | defaultValue => [[[[{{{{[{{[{[{'key'}]}]}}]}}}}]]]] | 00:35 |
@snapcount | thank god it' | 00:35 |
@snapcount | s something simple | 00:35 |
@snapcount | I've determined this task to be impossible | 00:39 |
pbmdawg | what, getting an answer out of me? | 00:41 |
@snapcount | that too | 00:41 |
@snapcount | the code says it's just expecting a string | 00:42 |
@snapcount | value => "match_the_key" | 00:42 |
@snapcount | but that no workie | 00:42 |
perlDreamer | radio list via Form.pm or via Form::RadioList? | 00:42 |
@snapcount | I created an HTMLForm object $f and create it like this $f->radioList | 00:43 |
@snapcount | using value => "key" | 00:44 |
perlDreamer | value => 'key' | 00:44 |
perlDreamer | should work fine | 00:44 |
perlDreamer | not working fine? | 00:44 |
@snapcount | here is my code | 00:44 |
@snapcount | forgive the paste, I'm lazy | 00:44 |
@snapcount | $f->radioList( | 00:44 |
@snapcount | -name => "requirement", | 00:44 |
@snapcount | -options => { "and" => $i18n->get("and"), | 00:44 |
@snapcount | "or" => $i18n->get("or"), | 00:44 |
@snapcount | }, | 00:44 |
@snapcount | -value => "and", | 00:44 |
@snapcount | -label => $i18n->get("add/edit event operator"), | 00:44 |
@snapcount | -hoverHelp => $i18n->get("add/edit event operator description"), | 00:44 |
@snapcount | ); | 00:44 |
perlDreamer | and it's not preselecting 'and' | 00:44 |
@snapcount | no | 00:45 |
@snapcount | I don't see anything in the logs either | 00:45 |
@snapcount | I must be doing something wrong | 00:45 |
perlDreamer | I don't see anything wrong | 00:47 |
perlDreamer | stick a ErrorHandler statement or two inside the RadioList sub and have it print out your value and each key in the hash | 00:48 |
perlDreamer | 6.9? | 00:49 |
perlDreamer | I reran one of the form tests for the Radio List, and it seems to be working. | 00:54 |
@snapcount | hmm | 00:58 |
@snapcount | foreach my $key (keys %options) { | 01:00 |
@snapcount | my $checked = 0; | 01:00 |
@snapcount | if ($self->get('value') eq $key) { | 01:00 |
@snapcount | $checked = 1; | 01:00 |
@snapcount | } | 01:00 |
@snapcount | is value, the value defined in the radio list | 01:00 |
perlDreamer | yes | 01:00 |
@snapcount | so the key has to match the value in the radio list definition or this won't work | 01:01 |
perlDreamer | yes | 01:01 |
@snapcount | ok... right now it's like this | 01:02 |
@snapcount | "and" => "And" | 01:02 |
@snapcount | in my radioList def | 01:02 |
@snapcount | "and" ne "And" | 01:03 |
@snapcount | oh wait | 01:03 |
perlDreamer | hold on a sec, I misspoke | 01:03 |
@snapcount | when you say value, you mean the value posted | 01:04 |
perlDreamer | RadioList value has to match option key | 01:04 |
perlDreamer | right | 01:04 |
@snapcount | not the value displayed | 01:04 |
perlDreamer | right | 01:04 |
@snapcount | ok | 01:04 |
perlDreamer | but that doesn't help you | 01:04 |
perlDreamer | because it's what you're already doing | 01:04 |
@snapcount | yeah | 01:04 |
@snapcount | just double checking | 01:04 |
@snapcount | Is the radiolist used anywhere else in WG | 01:04 |
perlDreamer | All over | 01:05 |
perlDreamer | DataForm | 01:05 |
perlDreamer | you can also run t/Form/ListEquiv.t and look uncomment the debug output to look at individual form code | 01:05 |
perlDreamer | that's what I did | 01:05 |
perlDreamer | her | 01:08 |
perlDreamer | here | 01:08 |
perlDreamer | in this one I changed the case between keys and values | 01:08 |
perlDreamer | # RadioList, simple equivalency | 01:08 |
perlDreamer | # direct<input type="radio" name="myRadioList" value="a" />A | 01:08 |
perlDreamer | # <input type="radio" name="myRadioList" value="b" checked="checked" />B | 01:08 |
perlDreamer | # <input type="radio" name="myRadioList" value="c" />C | 01:08 |
perlDreamer | # <input type="radio" name="myRadioList" value="d" />D | 01:08 |
perlDreamer | # <input type="radio" name="myRadioList" value="e" />E | 01:08 |
perlDreamer | # <input type="radio" name="myRadioList" value="f" />F | 01:09 |
perlDreamer | # <input type="radio" name="myRadioList" value="g" />G | 01:09 |
perlDreamer | # <input type="radio" name="myRadioList" value="h" />H | 01:09 |
perlDreamer | # dynamic<input type="radio" name="myRadioList" value="a" />a | 01:09 |
perlDreamer | # <input type="radio" name="myRadioList" value="b" checked="checked" />b | 01:09 |
perlDreamer | # <input type="radio" name="myRadioList" value="c" />c | 01:09 |
perlDreamer | # <input type="radio" name="myRadioList" value="d" />d | 01:09 |
perlDreamer | # <input type="radio" name="myRadioList" value="e" />e | 01:09 |
@snapcount | got it | 01:09 |
perlDreamer | # <input type="radio" name="myRadioList" value="f" />f | 01:09 |
perlDreamer | # <input type="radio" name="myRadioList" value="g" />g | 01:09 |
perlDreamer | # <input type="radio" name="myRadioList" value="h" />h | 01:09 |
@snapcount | I found the problem | 01:09 |
perlDreamer | what was it? | 01:09 |
@snapcount | $f->radioList( | 01:09 |
@snapcount | -name => "requirement", | 01:09 |
@snapcount | -options => { 0 => $i18n->get("and"), | 01:09 |
@snapcount | 1 => $i18n->get("or"), | 01:09 |
@snapcount | }, | 01:09 |
@snapcount | -value => 0, | 01:09 |
@snapcount | -label => $i18n->get("add/edit event operator"), | 01:09 |
@snapcount | -hoverHelp => $i18n->get("add/edit event operator description"), | 01:09 |
@snapcount | ); | 01:09 |
@snapcount | that works | 01:09 |
perlDreamer | but words don't? | 01:09 |
@snapcount | doesn't appear so | 01:10 |
@snapcount | I didn't test it very well | 01:10 |
@snapcount | but the above code doesn't work | 01:10 |
@snapcount | way above | 01:10 |
perlDreamer | yeah | 01:10 |
pbmdawg | if ($self->get('value') eq $key) { | 01:13 |
pbmdawg | if ($self->get('value') eq $key || $self->get('value') == $key) { | 01:13 |
@snapcount | yeah but if that were the problem my problem shouldn't have been a problem | 01:13 |
@snapcount | 'text' eq 'text' should work | 01:14 |
@snapcount | which is what I was doing at first | 01:14 |
* snapcount scratches nogin | 01:14 |
@snapcount | I'll submit a bug report for it | 01:15 |
@snapcount | we'll figure it out | 01:15 |
perlDreamer | this works | 01:21 |
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