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| @khenn | hey! | 20:03 |
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| sbaur | Happy New Year! | 20:03 |
| @khenn | sbaur - perldreamer tells me you have an x86 WRE for CentOS you might be willing to share =) | 20:04 |
| sbaur | i do, I'm not sure what state I left it in, let me look quick | 20:04 |
| @khenn | that would be great | 20:05 |
| @scrottie | Happy New Year! | 20:06 |
| sbaur | I'm just not quite sure how to clean out my site specific stuff, which is why I haven't posted it anywhere | 20:07 |
| sbaur | like mysql root password, etc | 20:07 |
| sbaur | I've removed my modproxy and modperl conf files and can tar up the wre dir as well as the wrebuild dir | 20:08 |
| @scrottie | maybe a quick script to change passwords is in order (and then run that in a VM and then shrink the image to get rid of old blocks) before posting it. | 20:08 |
| @khenn | you can just change the mysql root passwor | 20:09 |
| @khenn | and send it to me | 20:09 |
| @khenn | make it 123qwe which would be the default | 20:09 |
| sbaur | I copied the whole wre dir, and am not actually running that particular version now, so it's a bit tougher | 20:12 |
| @khenn | ah | 20:12 |
| @khenn | how difficult was it to build? | 20:12 |
| sbaur | i put the process in the wiki | 20:13 |
| sbaur | it was very timeconsuming | 20:13 |
| sbaur | but thanks to (i forget who) I could just follow along already outlined steps and fix the problems i ran into as opposed to figuring it all out from scratch | 20:14 |
| sbaur | tarring it up now | 20:14 |
| sbaur | i need to step away from my computer for a few, but hopefully it will be done tarring up by the time I get back | 20:16 |
| @khenn | this one? | 20:16 |
| @khenn | http://www.webgui.org/wiki/building-the-wre-on-64bit-rhel-5-or-centos-6 | 20:16 |
| sbaur | that's the one | 20:16 |
| @khenn | ok | 20:16 |
| @khenn | well if what you send me doesn't work out, I'll follow those instructions =) | 20:17 |
| @khenn | thanks so much sbaur! | 20:17 |
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| ckotil | oh sweet. ill jhave to follow that soon, i think. getting new hardware for the wre host | 21:18 |
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| khenn | so if I want to run setenvironment.sh every time I log in as root do I set that in /etc/profile or /etc/bashrc? | 23:46 |
| sbaur | either of those are for all users | 23:56 |
| sbaur | for root alone you want ~/.bash_profile or ~/.bashrc | 23:57 |
| sbaur | personally, i use .bash_profile | 23:57 |
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| khenn | thanks! | 00:04 |
| khenn | I have added it to both places and it's still not taking | 00:04 |
| khenn | must be doing something wrong | 00:04 |
| khenn | a digging I will go | 00:04 |
| sbaur | you do have to log out and log back in to see it, or at least source the file after you've changed it | 00:05 |
| sbaur | though test it with a second connection, in case you typo'd something badly | 00:05 |
| khenn | ok | 00:05 |
| khenn | typo =) | 00:07 |
| khenn | woohoo! Thanks sbaur! Worked great. Had one snafu with permissions on the mysql folder, but other than that no issues | 00:17 |
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| sbaur | i'm so happy to hear it! | 00:49 |
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| pskept | hi. where can i find the extras folder? | 21:57 |
| pskept | i want to look at one of the css files in there. | 21:57 |
| sbaur | in /data/WebGUI/www/extras | 21:58 |
| sbaur | assuming you have a standard install | 21:58 |
| sbaur | or, you could just type the url that your browser is pulling in into your browser and look at it in the browser | 21:59 |
| pskept | yeah i did the url. thanks! | 22:01 |
| pskept | i was trying to find it in the assets manager | 22:01 |
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| +BartJol | pskept: if you wish to alter the file, this will be undone with upgrading the site | 12:33 |
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| pskept | BartJol: thanks for the warning. i just wanted to take a look at it. | 14:37 |
| pskept | i very much love this cms. | 14:38 |
| +BartJol | yeah, but there are people who would do that :) | 14:38 |
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| ckotil | I've done it more than I like to admit | 16:21 |
| ckotil | the list of steps I have to complete after an upgrade is kind of insane. but lately I've been putting more and more into macro's bc they upgrade easier | 16:21 |
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| +BartJol | :) | 17:31 |
| ckotil | I thougth I saw something about a special kind of wobject/pm/asset you can create to add on to existing assets, and they will be upgrade friendly. am I making things up or does that really exist? | 17:36 |
| ckotil | a simple include may work pretty well for cases where I'm adding www_ methods to existing assets. but other times im adding new template variables, and other things inline | 17:36 |
| +BartJol | isn't that more an override in you customdir? | 17:41 |
| +BartJol | I can imagine such a construction | 17:42 |
| +BartJol | it might be possible to have code there that adds functionality to assets, but not sure how it reacts if there are double namespaces | 17:43 |
| +BartJol | but I think there are more experienced coders among the webgui people | 17:44 |
| +BartJol | s/think/know/ | 17:44 |
| ckotil | im not sure. i can code just enough to get into trouble ;) | 17:46 |
| +BartJol | most stuff I've done is years ago, around the last wuc | 17:48 |
| +BartJol | more into maintaining systems now | 17:49 |
| +BartJol | well, have to go | 17:50 |
| ckotil | later | 17:50 |
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| +BartJol | Hi Martin! | 18:10 |
| +MrHairgrease | BART!!!!!!! | 18:10 |
| +MrHairgrease | Long time no see | 18:10 |
| +MrHairgrease | how goes it there with | 18:11 |
| +MrHairgrease | ? | 18:11 |
| +BartJol | I go good | 18:11 |
| +MrHairgrease | good on ya | 18:11 |
| +BartJol | maybe even motorgood | 18:11 |
| +MrHairgrease | motorgood is more better | 18:11 |
| +MrHairgrease | than unmotorgood | 18:11 |
| +MrHairgrease | if you snap me | 18:12 |
| +BartJol | I snap you very well | 18:12 |
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| +MrHairgrease | weed i anyway | 18:12 |
| +BartJol | but how do you make it? | 18:13 |
| +MrHairgrease | i make it with perl outerearth | 18:14 |
| +MrHairgrease | and you | 18:14 |
| +MrHairgrease | how make you it? | 18:15 |
| +MrHairgrease | goes it good | 18:15 |
| +MrHairgrease | oh wait | 18:15 |
| +MrHairgrease | i see it all | 18:15 |
| +BartJol | I am registring the domain "unclogmyircchannel.com | 18:15 |
| +BartJol | " | 18:15 |
| +MrHairgrease | sorry may english is a beatje bad | 18:16 |
| +MrHairgrease | what bedraws that? | 18:16 |
| +BartJol | it bedraws unstopmyuncannychannel | 18:17 |
| +MrHairgrease | oh | 18:18 |
| +MrHairgrease | wow | 18:18 |
| +MrHairgrease | think i | 18:18 |
| +MrHairgrease | i meen | 18:18 |
| +BartJol | it goes nowhere about | 18:18 |
| +MrHairgrease | my brane is to small for that | 18:18 |
| +MrHairgrease | and everything | 18:18 |
| +MrHairgrease | hey bart, i have a good idea | 18:20 |
| +MrHairgrease | why shall we not come by eachother | 18:20 |
| +BartJol | and what holds that in? | 18:20 |
| +MrHairgrease | and | 18:20 |
| +MrHairgrease | koop a beer | 18:21 |
| +MrHairgrease | ? | 18:21 |
| +BartJol | the beer is up | 18:21 |
| +MrHairgrease | is it up | 18:21 |
| +MrHairgrease | ?? | 18:21 |
| +MrHairgrease | why | 18:21 |
| +BartJol | and I go to Schiedam | 18:21 |
| +MrHairgrease | were you forgotten to fill the coolcupbord by? | 18:21 |
| +BartJol | but there lie sirupwaffels on your desk | 18:24 |
| +MrHairgrease | how weed you that? | 18:24 |
| +MrHairgrease | is my webcam on? | 18:24 |
| +BartJol | yes, put some clething on | 18:24 |
| +MrHairgrease | no | 18:25 |
| +MrHairgrease | but i will plack the cam off | 18:25 |
| +MrHairgrease | is that also good? | 18:25 |
| +BartJol | i don't have to stick my eyes out | 18:26 |
| +BartJol | so it is good | 18:26 |
| +MrHairgrease | but is you will a stroopwafer than i can send one to you | 18:26 |
| +MrHairgrease | have you tape for me | 18:26 |
| +MrHairgrease | to plack it off | 18:26 |
| +MrHairgrease | ? | 18:26 |
| +BartJol | no | 18:26 |
| +MrHairgrease | ok then | 18:27 |
| +MrHairgrease | in that case i will track on my clething | 18:27 |
| +BartJol | but I have a footbalbadger, you can use that | 18:27 |
| +MrHairgrease | sry | 18:27 |
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| qwebirc66337 | hello | 10:10 |
| qwebirc66337 | i have some problem with installing wre console | 10:10 |
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| ckotil | are there any workflows for the collab system to post to twitter/facebook/linkedin/etc... ? | 18:21 |
| pvanthony | It would also be nice to have the story wobject to post to twitter/facebook/linkedin/etc. | 18:29 |
| ckotil | could pry use the same workflow. i see there is a post workflow, that by default is set to commit w/out approval (my site's default approval workflow) | 18:32 |
| ckotil | i could see creating a new workflow , commit w/out approval and post to social media | 18:32 |
| ckotil | but i was wondering if something like that already exists. | 18:32 |
| ckotil | users are wanting a blog :/ | 18:32 |
| ckotil | can the story asset work as a blog? | 18:33 |
| pvanthony | I think it should. I love the keyword feature in Story. | 18:33 |
| pvanthony | It categories stories by keyword. Very useful. | 18:34 |
| ckotil | ah cool | 18:35 |
| pvanthony | If you got a solution for automatically posting to twitter/facebook/linkedin/etc, please share. | 18:39 |
| ckotil | k | 18:39 |
| pvanthony | by any chance would anyone know how to make DateForm export date fields in human readable format instead of epoch. | 18:44 |
| ckotil | i think you could edit hte template to use a macro that would change it for you | 18:57 |
| pvanthony | Really? Cool. I will check it out. Thank you. | 19:16 |
| pvanthony | Opps. Could not find the template for the data export. Found the list template but no template for tab-limited export template. | 19:28 |
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| ckotil | im seriously considering a new contentHandler that will check to see if a client has a SSO ticket, and sign them in to webgui automagically if the ticket is valid. | 19:58 |
| @scrottie | hi ckotil | 20:11 |
| ckotil | hey scrottie | 20:13 |
| ckotil | to clarify SSO ticket, as in our internal SSO system, cosign. not a valid webgui SSO token | 20:14 |
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| dominix | hi there | 00:05 |
| dominix | is there a FAQ for beginners | 00:05 |
| sbaur | I don't think there's a faq, but it's been a long time since I went through the website, so I could be wrong | 00:07 |
| sbaur | what kind of beginner are you? sysadmin, developer, content person? | 00:07 |
| dominix | sysadmin | 00:20 |
| dominix | I am looking for a wait to remove default "webgui link" | 00:21 |
| dominix | a way | 00:21 |
| sbaur | from the style templates? from emails? | 00:22 |
| dominix | from the style templates | 00:22 |
| sbaur | here's how you get to it. Edit one of the page layout's that is using the style template in question, Then, click on the display tab, then click the edit next to the style template you want to change. Now, if it's still a default template, you'll get an error message saying that. Just click the Duplicate this template and edit link. | 00:25 |
| sbaur | once you've done that, you need to edit the page one more time and choose your new template as that page's template | 00:26 |
| sbaur | If you need to make that change to many pages, you can use the edit branch function to do apply it many times | 00:26 |
| dominix | ok | 00:27 |
| dominix | thanks, I'll try soon | 00:27 |
| sbaur | be sure to check out the https://www.webgui.org/user-guides there's lots of good info in there | 00:28 |
| dominix | sure | 00:28 |
| dominix | works well, thank sbaur | 00:34 |
| sbaur | your welcome | 00:35 |
| sbaur | argh, i hate when i mess up you're and your | 00:39 |
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| @khenn | yay I get to work on WebGUI today =) | 21:07 |
| sbaur | yay | 21:11 |
| pskept | i get to work IN webgui today | 21:24 |
| pskept | and its quite pleasant per usual | 21:25 |
| pskept | the only thing that is getting me today is that i've spent time moving to css positioning over the years and have come to love it. but for the content of the pages that get edited by users who use the wysiwyg editor its easier for them to edit if the content is in tables sometimes. | 21:26 |
| pskept | so i make this table and it just feels wrong. | 21:26 |
| pskept | is there something i'm missing or not considering? | 21:26 |
| @khenn | no | 21:31 |
| @khenn | tables are for tables of content =) | 21:31 |
| @khenn | but they are not for page layout | 21:31 |
| @khenn | you can configure the editor to only show features you want them to use | 21:32 |
| @khenn | you can take out fonts, colors, and all that other stuff that makes it confusing for your users | 21:33 |
| @khenn | so they are left with raw content to change | 21:33 |
| @khenn | with maybe bold, underline, indent, bullets, etc | 21:33 |
| @khenn | and then you can style the page to incorporate those properly | 21:33 |
| @khenn | the confusion then is getting past the content looking different on the site than it does in the editor | 21:34 |
| pskept | ok, good. i guess its just a matter of remembering that i didn't stop using tables i stopped using tables for layout. | 21:36 |
| pskept | i think they understand the concept of styles and why it looks different in the editor. but everyone always says they get it. so i guess i'll see. | 21:37 |
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| +BartJol | mmm, I see webgui 7.10.23 missing from the download page (http://update.webgui.org/7.x.x/). Are they removed in relation to some bugs? | 15:25 |
| alpha- | looks like the last release was in nov 2012 | 15:40 |
| alpha- | pretty slow pace | 15:40 |
| +BartJol | ah, I see that that one didn't contain a to Version. fixed it manually | 15:50 |
| +BartJol | yes, it has now changed to a community version | 15:51 |
| +BartJol | and everyone is busy | 16:01 |
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| elnino | hey! Hi everyone... I got a problem. I'm missing all my draggable classes, so I can't move anything. | 18:01 |
| elnino | 7.9.33-stable | 18:02 |
| elnino | looking at the source I don't see anything that may have overritten it the styling. | 18:02 |
| elnino | looking at the version tags, I haven't touched anything since September. no upgrades either. | 18:03 |
| elnino | i'm full admin/9 guru still. but I don't have access to the server, is there something in the config that could have changed? | 18:05 |
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| @scrottie | yarr. | 18:07 |
| elnino | oh never mind. | 18:07 |
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| sbaur | If I make a change to wre.conf's log rotation setting, do I need to restart wreservices (anything) for it to take effect or will it just take effect next time to goes to rotate logs? | 19:21 |
| @scrottie | I would guess that it would take effect next time it goes to rotate logs... | 19:22 |
| sbaur | that's my guess too, guess I'll just check it tomorrow | 19:23 |
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| xootom_ | hey, anyone around? | 00:31 |
| sbaur | i am, what's the question? | 00:42 |
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| xootom | I've | 00:45 |
| xootom | currently | 00:45 |
| xootom | wanted | 00:46 |
| xootom | so | 00:46 |
| xootom | so | 00:46 |
| xootom | back | 00:47 |
| xootom | the | 00:47 |
| sbaur | one word per line? seriously? | 00:47 |
| xootom | huh? | 00:48 |
| xootom | oh | 00:48 |
| xootom_ | hold on crappy irc client... lemme paste into webchat | 00:48 |
| sbaur | way better :) | 00:49 |
| xootom_ | :o) I've been running webgui sites on rackspace cloud servers running debian for the last couple of years, before that used the wre on centos. at the moment i'm on an old debian sid which was in order to get webgui from the repository | 00:49 |
| xootom_ | currently running on 7.10.23 | 00:49 |
| xootom_ | wanted to get the servers up to date, and also webgui.. so recently tried upgrading, but can't really get anywhere as apache segfaults and won't start, nothing in logs etc | 00:49 |
| xootom_ | so i'm thinking it'd be better to start again with a fresh server image | 00:49 |
| xootom_ | so question is what's the most stable/best supported way? | 00:49 |
| xootom_ | back to centos 5.8 and a wre?... or ubuntu, but 7.10.27 seems to only be in the next version so i guess unstable, i.e. april 2013 release | 00:49 |
| xootom_ | the only downloadable wre seems to be 32 bit though not sure if rackspace images are 32 bit | 00:50 |
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| sbaur | 1) i've only ever used RHEL, CentoOS, so can't help with the debian | 00:50 |
| sbaur | 2) I have a tarball of 64bit WRE that someone else used successfully (including the wrebuild dir if you need to rebuild it) that I can make available to you. You'd have to reset the mysql password | 00:51 |
| sbaur | my tarball was compiled against rhel5 64 bit | 00:52 |
| sbaur | I'm still back on 7.6, so can't help with the 7.10 specific question | 00:52 |
| sbaur | but maybe scrottie can chime in | 00:52 |
| xootom | yeah might be safer to go back to the wre. going to rebuild a server with centos | 00:53 |
| xootom | if you've rolled your own wre, how up to date is it with patches etc? | 00:55 |
| sbaur | I used the latest version out of git as of about a month ago | 00:55 |
| xootom | sounds good, i remember having a go doing a 64 bit one a couple of years ago but some perl modules wouldn't build and i don't think it ever worked for me hence going debian | 00:56 |
| sbaur | PM me your email address and I will send you a link to my dropbox with the tarball | 01:01 |
| xootom | great thanks :o) | 01:05 |
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| @scrottie | 64 bit build makes sense | 03:16 |
| @scrottie | trying to stop apache from coredumping if it wants to coredump... that's harder. | 03:17 |
| @scrottie | I'd have to attach a debugger to the process to even have a clue what was wrong with it. | 03:17 |
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| pskept | is it possible to easily import data into a Data Table asset? | 18:17 |
| pskept | is there another asset i should be considering instead? | 18:18 |
| sbaur | We wrote a script to import data into a DataForm from a tab delimited file. You need to know the structure of the DataForm you are loading into obviously. We also had to have some "calculation fields" so we have that logic in the script as well. | 18:20 |
| sbaur | I can share it if you like. (After I sanitize it to make sure nothing is in there that shouldn't be) | 18:20 |
| pskept | yes that would be great | 18:21 |
| pskept | no rush. | 18:21 |
| pskept | thank you | 18:21 |
| sbaur | heh, and you have just made me realize my script is not in version control so win-win | 18:23 |
| pskept | yay! | 18:24 |
| @scrottie | sbaur++, again | 18:37 |
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| pskept | hello again. what is an ideal method for storing multiple related files. this list of files can be displayed on a page solo. it could also be displayed on an other page that would agregate many lists of files. | 21:28 |
| pskept | my first thought is a folder for the files and then navigation assets to display them in a list. | 21:28 |
| pskept | aggregate* | 21:29 |
| sbaur | we use folders for most of the files we have to store | 21:54 |
| ckotil | same. unless some bit of text in an article relates to a file. then we may add the file to the article. | 21:55 |
| pskept | cool. | 22:04 |
| pskept | i keeping having this fear that there are these ideal solutions that i am over looking. but i'm thinking that i just need to remember that there is more than one way to play with a cat. | 22:06 |
| ckotil | yeah. lots more. and it confuses people | 22:09 |
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| sbaur | I still have some 7.5 sites. I'm seeing the following error on one of them | 00:42 |
| sbaur | WebGUI::Asset::loadModule[1614] - Couldn't compile asset package: WebGUI::Asset::Post::ThreadResult:success. Root cause: Can't locate WebGUI/Asset/Post/ThreadResult:success.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /data/wre/prereqs/bin/../../ /data/wg-custom/development/7.5/lib /data/wg-custom/production/lib /data/WebGUI/lib /data/wre/prereqs/lib/perl5/5.8.8/i686-linux /data/wre/prereqs/lib/perl5/5.8.8 /data/wre/prereqs/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8/i686-linux /data/wre/prereqs | 00:42 |
| sbaur | which just looks plain odd to me. line 1161 (according to less) of asset.pm is a } inside of a =head2 =cut block | 00:44 |
| sbaur | right above the sub getIsa | 00:44 |
| sbaur | anyone have any hints on tracking this one down? | 00:45 |
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| sbaur | So, I'm trying to download findBrokenAssets.pl from http://www.plainblack.com/downloads/builds/7.8.24-stable/WebGUI/sbin/ and it's telling me I don't have enough permissions to download it | 01:44 |
| sbaur | Is that because I should be trying to get it from git? | 01:44 |
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| @scrottie | sbaur... I wasn't aware of http://www.plainblack.com/downloads/builds/7.8.24-stable/ and don't have access to that, but I can help you fetch previous revisions from git. | 18:24 |
| @scrottie | an } inside of POD is probably a bug. | 18:24 |
| @scrottie | 'git checkout 7.8.24' should get you that exact version given a git checkout of wG | 18:27 |
| sbaur | thanks scrottie, i'll try that later today | 18:28 |
| @scrottie | "asset.pm is a } inside of a =head2 =cut block" ... not seeing that. line 1161 of Asset.pm in that version is part of getEditTabs(). is that right? | 18:29 |
| @scrottie | sure. | 18:29 |
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| haarg | if you don't have a git checkout, https://raw.github.com/plainblack/webgui/v7.8.24/sbin/findBrokenAssets.pl | 18:32 |
| @scrottie | verily. | 18:41 |
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| pskept | is it possible to modify what is displayed under "version tags" to only show the current user's versions? | 22:42 |
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| sbaur | I don't think so pskept, but i'm not 100% sure. | 23:25 |
| sbaur | since anyone can join any version tag... it seems like listing them all would be good | 23:25 |
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