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knowmad | Good day, anyone around who's familiar with debugging SPECTRE? I've got a server where spectre says it's connecting but workflows aren't getting run. I can see them showing up in the WorkflowInstance table but there's nothing running, waiting or suspended workflows showing up in the admin interface or via `spectre --status`. | 20:17 |
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knowmad | It looks like a configuration error; we were using a ServerName in modproxy that wasn't configured in modperl. I am getting a strange error message in webgui.org: "ERROR - www.mysite.com.conf - WebGUI::Mail::Send::send[538] - smtp object is defined in Send.pm for: localhost". | 20:53 |
@scrottie | hiya knowmad | 20:59 |
knowmad | hey scrottie | 20:59 |
@scrottie | well, congradulations. your error message is a "google bomb": there's exactly one hit for it. http://www.ptodirect.com/Patents/6178331 | 21:01 |
@scrottie | is this from a diagnostic test I had you insert into your Send.pm previously? | 21:02 |
@scrottie | that doesn't seem to match any standard WebGUI Send.pm error() call | 21:02 |
@scrottie | not even re-throwing an error from another module | 21:02 |
knowmad | let me take a look... | 21:03 |
@scrottie | if so, that might be a red herring. if it's after these lines, then $smpt *should* be defined: my $smtp = Net::SMTP->new($smtpServer); # connect to an SMTP server ... if (defined $smtp) { | 21:03 |
knowmad | i think you were helping Van with some debugging recently so that may explain it. BRB. | 21:04 |
@scrottie | http://pastie.org/4188589 | 21:05 |
@scrottie | that's something that I do when trying to debug Spectre stuff. when spectre fails to make a request, it gives the full text of the request and response as text, with that. | 21:06 |
@scrottie | I have some notes from Haarg explaining Spectre that I'll dig up, but it feels slightly disingenuous to read those off as a trouble shooting procedure when I don't really know what I'm talking about. | 21:07 |
knowmad | Bingo! That was it; looks like Van was doing some debugging. | 21:08 |
knowmad | thanks for the Spectre debugging patch; I found the following page useful as well: http://www.webgui.org/user-guides/webgui-administrators-guide/webgui-administrators-guide/troubleshooting | 21:09 |
@scrottie | was making that error go away all that was needed? email is going out otherwise? | 21:10 |
knowmad | yep, email is now being delivered; however, we have a rule on the other end that's sending it to /dev/null :(. Off to debug that next! Thanks for the tip. | 21:13 |
@scrottie | good, good. eek, bad, bad. | 21:13 |
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CIA-69 | wrebuild: Colin Kuskie wre7 * r0dd2a26 / (build.sh getsource.sh): Remove manual build of perl modules. - http://git.io/H_VsaA | 23:20 |
CIA-69 | wrebuild: Colin Kuskie wre7 * r7b22b66 / (4 files in 2 dirs): Update documentation for 0.9.4 - http://git.io/iECr4g | 23:20 |
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CIA-69 | webgui: Mark Leighton Fisher webgui-7.10 * r7a6ee77 / (docs/changelog/7.x.x.txt lib/WebGUI/Asset/Wobject/Search.pm): Fixed WebGUI::Asset::Wobject::Search::view() so HTML highlighting not broken by search phrase with unmatched char pairs - http://git.io/58nPxA | 00:08 |
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+danny_mk | scrottie: https://github.com/dannymk/webgui/tree/master/selenium | 00:16 |
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CIA-69 | webgui: Daniel Maldonado master * r79c2fff / (16 files): Initial Selenium Test Suite (Basic) - http://git.io/e2X1Qg | 10:39 |
@scrottie | danny_mk++ | 10:43 |
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+danny_mk | is the person that uses Selenium for testing here? Sorry to keep on asking but I forgot the nickname | 16:24 |
ckotil | sbaur , and I don't see him | 16:28 |
+danny_mk | yup, thanks | 16:29 |
+danny_mk | problem is writing IFrame/Frame Selenium tests, have to do some research and figure it out | 16:30 |
+danny_mk | scrottie: As I add tests do you need me to make other pull requests? | 17:53 |
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@scrottie | or get rid of the iframe =P | 18:53 |
@scrottie | danny_mk, mornin' | 18:53 |
@scrottie | danny_mk, yeah. the best thing you could do is make a branch for the selenium work that doesn't have any other commits in it for other stuff | 18:53 |
@scrottie | git branch selenium; git checkout selenium | 18:54 |
@scrottie | git cherry-pick b8596fd10da910254150db02dc7336bda5a25c89 # to bring over the one commit that you did | 18:55 |
@scrottie | then to push that: git push origin selenium | 18:56 |
@scrottie | (I think) | 18:56 |
@scrottie | github has a "send pushrequest" thing built in to it, too, but I'm happy to pull your branch | 18:57 |
+danny_mk | OK, still reading about possible Perl driven tests which would be the ideal way to run the tests | 18:58 |
@scrottie | oh yeah. that would be good. | 18:59 |
+danny_mk | I was writing some frameless tests: https://github.com/dannymk/webgui/tree/master/selenium/frameless | 18:59 |
+danny_mk | will let you know how it all works out. I am not writing any more tests until I figure out if the test should be run with: Test::WWW::Selenium, the Selenium IDE or something else | 19:01 |
@scrottie | understood. | 19:01 |
@scrottie | thanks for getting that started. | 19:02 |
@scrottie | and I find it encouraging that you aren't complaining about tons and tons of bugs. | 19:02 |
+danny_mk | LOL, I found a few already but will leave that for later | 19:02 |
@scrottie | storing the "test scripts" as essentially HTML seems awfully odd to me | 19:02 |
@scrottie | ah, I see | 19:02 |
+danny_mk | why? | 19:03 |
+danny_mk | html is the format used by the IDE and possibly the Perl modules | 19:03 |
+danny_mk | one positive note is that I found a way to test frames | 19:04 |
@scrottie | many formats are used by perl modules, including XML. | 19:05 |
@scrottie | HTML is a flavor of SGML (XML is another flavor of SGML) used for visual markup | 19:05 |
@scrottie | seems like XML would make more sense than HTML for storing stuff other than visual markup | 19:05 |
+danny_mk | scrottie: not sure about the file format requirements, initial documentation suggested html, not sure if xml is an option but I will go in that direction if available. | 19:09 |
+danny_mk | one thing about the tests, the WWW::Selenium (and derived classes) documentation suggest running a Java based Selenium test server. Will this be a problem for the community? | 19:10 |
@scrottie | maybe they write HTML because that's what the browser plugin can do. the browser knows how to read/write HTML but nothing else... | 19:10 |
@scrottie | except maybe JSON | 19:10 |
@scrottie | danny_mk, problems come in different sizes =) | 19:11 |
@scrottie | I think it'll make it harder for people to run the tests, but we really only need one person running the tests | 19:11 |
+danny_mk | I will take that as a "GO AHEAD", I will worry about supporting servers later | 19:12 |
@scrottie | having to install anything is always a small barrier | 19:12 |
@scrottie | exactly | 19:12 |
+danny_mk | OK, most people should have Java installed and the server seems to come in the form of a jar file: java -jar selenium-server-1.0-SNAPSHOT.jar [-port 4444] [-interactive] [-timeout 1800] | 19:13 |
@scrottie | I find that mine is never the right version | 19:13 |
@scrottie | anyway, if someone can find a better way, they can always send in a patch later | 19:13 |
+danny_mk | OK | 19:14 |
@scrottie | any docs about how to run the tests are helpful. I read the README (thanks for that), but we're all pretty clueless about this stuff, so everything helps. | 19:14 |
+danny_mk | more documentation to come as my Selenium understanding improves | 19:15 |
@scrottie | danny_mk++ | 19:16 |
+danny_mk | maybe even a few WebGUI youtube videos | 19:16 |
@scrottie | woot | 19:16 |
+danny_mk | been dying to test my new mic | 19:16 |
+danny_mk | hmm... come to think of it I hate my voice :-) | 19:16 |
@scrottie | I'm going to try to work on installer stuff today if I can get one other little itty bitty thing done | 19:16 |
@scrottie | almost everyone hates their voice. other people probably don't hate your voice. or maybe you sound like Gilbert Godfrey. | 19:17 |
+danny_mk | alright, I will let you get back to work, this stuff is interesting so I have to get to it. | 19:17 |
+danny_mk | :-/ | 19:17 |
@scrottie | well, feel free to chat me up about stuff. | 19:18 |
+danny_mk | I will as soon as I make progress, now to cleanup the OpenId branch and start a new Selenium branch...argghhh... | 19:18 |
@scrottie | I'm getting ready to take the trash downstairs and take a shower right now =P | 19:18 |
@scrottie | maybe run some mail across the street. | 19:18 |
@scrottie | heh. and I'll help with git stuff too. | 19:18 |
@scrottie | an Open Source project's version control system should not be an impedement to contributors. | 19:19 |
+danny_mk | too much shit to learn | 19:19 |
@scrottie | seriously. | 19:19 |
+danny_mk | why did I choose IT again? | 19:19 |
@scrottie | because programmers are eternal optimists, therefore you're an optimist, therefore the absurd amounts of work seem completely doable at times. | 19:20 |
+danny_mk | aahhh.... that was it. Thanks!!! | 19:20 |
@scrottie | ;p) | 19:21 |
@scrottie | "Actually the pull request were for my OpenId and Oauth2 modules" ... I don't know much about Oauth2 or OpenId, but if it has tests and the code looks good and the tests pass for me, I'll merge the code in. | 19:34 |
@scrottie | you just have to tell me how to find the code in question ;) | 19:34 |
@scrottie | openauth sounds like a pretty great feature, actually. | 19:42 |
ckotil | and CoSign! | 19:43 |
ckotil | Shibboleth too, as painful as that is | 19:44 |
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+danny_mk | scrottie: simple, it is just a way to use your "Facebook/Google/etc..." accounts to login to WebGUI | 20:16 |
+danny_mk | darn, I need to make a video about that too | 20:16 |
+danny_mk | One thing I definitely have to do is find out how to make WebGUI an OAuth2 server, this way other websites can authenticate against a WebGUI server. | 20:18 |
@scrottie | probably do that using a content handler (WebGUI::Content) subclass. | 20:21 |
@scrottie | they can handle actions on requests that aren't logged in. the PayPal callbacks are in there. | 20:21 |
@scrottie | er, are done that way. | 20:21 |
@scrottie | I imagine the client case (WebGUI authenticating against LiveJournal) would be more common. low hanging fruit. | 20:22 |
+danny_mk | I am pretty sure that is already done | 20:22 |
+danny_mk | hold on | 20:22 |
@scrottie | ah | 20:23 |
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+danny_mk | If a LiveJournal server is an OpenId server then the modules: http://www.webgui.org/bazaar/openid-auth-module | 20:24 |
@scrottie | ah. shows how little I know about this, too. | 20:29 |
+danny_mk | Yup, a LiveJournal account can be used to login to WebGUI when using the OpenId module | 20:29 |
@scrottie | various sites on the 'net offer to let me log in with my LiveJournal account information but it never actually works. | 20:29 |
@scrottie | I guess if I had seen it work, I would be more interested in the tech. | 20:30 |
+danny_mk | I am looking into OAuth2 because I want to make FaceBook apps available by writing them in WebGUI and using FaceBook as my deployment platform | 20:30 |
+danny_mk | Hey, I gave a presentation on it and everything at a WUC | 20:30 |
+danny_mk | :-) | 20:33 |
@scrottie | nice! | 20:34 |
@scrottie | every now and then, I watch one of the online WUC videos. | 20:35 |
+danny_mk | I use it all the time at work so my users don't need to remember another login and password. They just use their Yahoo, FaceBook, Google accounts to login. | 20:36 |
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CIA-69 | webgui: Scott Walters master * r2417ce0 / (14 files): use the default of localhost:5000 instead of any other hard-coded URL; add instructions for changing this - http://git.io/D7QXFw | 22:12 |
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+danny_mk | scrottie: you around? | 00:12 |
@scrottie | yup! | 00:12 |
+danny_mk | OK, I am going to need a bit of git help to commit these changes | 00:13 |
@scrottie | alright. | 00:13 |
+danny_mk | so, do I create a git branch from my repo at: https://github.com/dannymk/webgui.git | 00:13 |
@scrottie | by the way, to avoid future conflicts, you should pull from the https://github.com/plainblack/webgui master into your branch you're working in for the selenium stuff | 00:13 |
@scrottie | yeah. 'git branch whatever' then 'git checkout whatever' should do it. | 00:14 |
+danny_mk | that did it fine, however does that not clone my repo and not WebGUIs repo? | 00:14 |
@scrottie | yeah, it does. it's a fork in the road, so to speak. er, it clones your repo. | 00:15 |
+danny_mk | OK, this will just be easier doing it by the numbers | 00:15 |
@scrottie | doesn't actually clone it, though. | 00:16 |
@scrottie | but effectively. | 00:16 |
@scrottie | do you have more changes sitting around somewhere that you want? | 00:16 |
+danny_mk | yes | 00:17 |
@scrottie | are they ready to be committed, or are they already commited, or not yet? | 00:17 |
+danny_mk | lets do it from scratch, I will just copy my changes into the new repo | 00:18 |
+danny_mk | it will be easier this way | 00:18 |
+danny_mk | step 1? | 00:18 |
+danny_mk | git clone https://github.com/plainblack/webgui | 00:18 |
@scrottie | alright, if you insist. you can always do 'git diff > /tmp/tmp.diff' and then apply them later with 'patch -p1 < /tmp/tmp.diff' if nothing else. | 00:18 |
@scrottie | clone creates a new repo | 00:18 |
@scrottie | you don't want to do that | 00:18 |
@scrottie | and it won't let you do that | 00:18 |
@scrottie | that would actually blow away changes you have | 00:19 |
+danny_mk | OK, here is where I am at | 00:19 |
+danny_mk | stand by | 00:19 |
@scrottie | 'git pull https://github.com/plainblack/webgui' | 00:19 |
@scrottie | that'll get you all of the changes (commits) that you don't have | 00:19 |
@scrottie | then there's a way to get rid of your local changes and go to the exact state of things as on that branch/repo on github | 00:20 |
@scrottie | in that branch | 00:20 |
+danny_mk | http://pastebin.com/SuWUF6js | 00:20 |
@scrottie | yeah. stuff is going to conflict. | 00:21 |
@scrottie | oh well. | 00:21 |
@scrottie | did you do the git pull? | 00:22 |
+danny_mk | nothing yet | 00:22 |
@scrottie | hmm? | 00:23 |
@scrottie | I assume you want the other patches besides 'Initial Selenium Test Suite (Basic)' too | 00:23 |
+danny_mk | basically everything stays the same with the exception of README and login.html | 00:24 |
+danny_mk | I think :-{ | 00:24 |
+danny_mk | should I do the git pull? | 00:25 |
@scrottie | yup. | 00:25 |
+danny_mk | OK, stand by | 00:25 |
@scrottie | that'll merge in stuff that is on github that you don't have. | 00:25 |
@scrottie | keeping things in sync avoids conflicts. | 00:25 |
@scrottie | except for when it causes them ;) | 00:25 |
+danny_mk | the file .DS_Store should not be there, that is a Mac thing. I should delete it from my repo | 00:26 |
@scrottie | okay. let's do that later after we get things sorted out. | 00:26 |
@scrottie | you can 'git rm' it and commit that change. | 00:26 |
+danny_mk | OK, I have to commit my README | 00:26 |
@scrottie | one thing at a time! | 00:26 |
+danny_mk | Please, commit your changes or stash them before you can merge. | 00:26 |
@scrottie | ah | 00:27 |
@scrottie | up to you. 'git add README', 'git commit' or else 'git stash' | 00:27 |
@scrottie | 'git stash' puts local changes onto a stack. then you can later 'git stash show' or 'git stash apply' or just forget about it. | 00:27 |
@scrottie | er, it undoes your changes but remembers them in a sort of temporary commit that goes onto a stack. | 00:28 |
+danny_mk | http://pastebin.com/JRZCrmZM | 00:30 |
@scrottie | we both tried to fix the URLs. if you had pulled my commit (and I had made it and sent it up and you saw it) before changing the same lines, it wouldn't have conflicted, by the way. | 00:32 |
@scrottie | conflicts are a pain. basically the same deal as in CVS or anything else. | 00:32 |
@scrottie | in this case though... let's not manually resolve them. | 00:32 |
+danny_mk | they are the same tests anyway, should I delete my copies and just pull yours? | 00:32 |
@scrottie | not exactly | 00:33 |
haarg | why are you trying to pull by url? generally i'd recommend adding a remote and using that to pull. | 00:33 |
@scrottie | haarg, we're working across repos here | 00:33 |
haarg | huh? | 00:33 |
@scrottie | he needs to track his own repo. in the future, I'll suggest that he push and then use github to send pull requests. | 00:33 |
haarg | so add the pb repo as 'upstream' and leave origin pointing at his own | 00:34 |
@scrottie | sounds good, haarg! let's do it! first, I want to clean up the state of his repo. | 00:34 |
+danny_mk | haarg: I am a git virgin, be gentle :-/ | 00:34 |
@scrottie | that's the thing about git. if you ask for help with it, people start spoonfeeding a billion commands, one after another. | 00:34 |
haarg | danny_mk: git repos can have multiple remotes. when you clone, it creates creates a repo named 'origin' by default. | 00:35 |
@scrottie | and then they fight over which commands you should be running. | 00:35 |
haarg | err, a remote named 'origin' | 00:35 |
haarg | you can add additional remotes with arbitrary names, letting you merge from multiple sources | 00:35 |
+danny_mk | well, my confusion comes from having my own repo, pushing my changes to my github repo and sending pull requests to plainblack for contributions | 00:36 |
+danny_mk | this is why I am having scrottie walk me through these changes | 00:37 |
+danny_mk | it is still pretty confusing to me | 00:37 |
+danny_mk | I have no idea where I am at this point | 00:37 |
@scrottie | sometimes the verbose way is less confusing. it's no great burdon to type in https://github.com/plainblack/webgui. | 00:38 |
@scrottie | danny_mk: right now, your local git repo knows about all of the commits from the plainblack webgui repo. | 00:38 |
haarg | it's more that it's kind of unknown what branch it will pull in, and i barely even know where it places the results if you just use a url | 00:38 |
+danny_mk | scrottie: OK, cool, that I get | 00:39 |
@scrottie | your local branch is in flux. it has the files edited, just like you would edit them, but when you commit the changes, it'll re-use an existing commit message and add a message about merging conflicts. | 00:39 |
@scrottie | or you can do other things. I want to something else. | 00:39 |
haarg | danny_mk: as of your last pastebin, you are half way though a merge. some things couldn't automatically be merged. | 00:39 |
haarg | can you pastebin the result of git status? | 00:39 |
+danny_mk | OK, hang on guys | 00:40 |
@scrottie | haarg, I don't want him to merge things. I'm going to have him reset his head and then cherry-pick his patches out. | 00:40 |
@scrottie | haarg, it won't conflict. we can skip my patch that I did at the same time as him on the same thing. | 00:40 |
@scrottie | haarg, we'll cover merges in a future episode. | 00:40 |
haarg | ok | 00:40 |
+danny_mk | http://pastebin.com/7YPtJaTC | 00:41 |
@scrottie | danny_mk, please do this: git reset --hard 79c2fffbbac7dccaaead9bab0d93ba497c218bd9 | 00:41 |
@scrottie | that will take everything back to exactly what things looked like in the plainblack webgui repo right after your "Initial Selenium Test Suite (Basic)" commit | 00:41 |
+danny_mk | are you sure? | 00:41 |
@scrottie | pretty sure =) | 00:41 |
+danny_mk | OK, should I save a copy of my changes someplace else? | 00:42 |
@scrottie | other stuff isn't gone. it's just not referenced by 'HEAD' any longer after that. | 00:42 |
+danny_mk | OK, doing it now | 00:42 |
@scrottie | which changes? the ones to readme? did you commit those or did you stash them? | 00:42 |
+danny_mk | HEAD is now at 79c2fff Initial Selenium Test Suite (Basic) | 00:42 |
+danny_mk | pretty sure they are stashed | 00:42 |
haarg | danny_mk: one thing to keep in mind with git is as long as you've committed something once, git keeps it around locally for at least 90 days | 00:43 |
+danny_mk | OK | 00:43 |
@scrottie | you always have a 'HEAD'. when you change branches, 'HEAD' changes. 'HEAD' gives you a handle on the entire tree (repo), but it only includes the stuff between it and the ground, not the other branches. but those branches can be merged together. and the stuff in them is still there. not all of the metaphorical branches are branches you create with 'git branch' | 00:43 |
haarg | it can be a pain to track down, but it saves the content in case you do a reset --hard or similar accidentally | 00:44 |
haarg | that only applies to committed content though, --hard is still dangerous if you have uncommitted files | 00:44 |
@scrottie | danny_mk, okay, next up, I'm going to have you "cherry-pick" out the changes you made previously, one by one. | 00:44 |
@scrottie | cherry-pick takes a commit that was done in another branch or otherwise elsewhere that's not part of the current branch and does the same thing to the current branch. | 00:45 |
@scrottie | git cherry-pick bc5a3052df80104abae697f17454586723140a82 ... do that | 00:45 |
+danny_mk | scrottie: explain something, what is the problem with leaving everything as it is right now? | 00:45 |
@scrottie | that's "Adding frameless tests to get around WebGUI/Selenium frame issue (may be a temporary solution)" | 00:45 |
@scrottie | danny_mk, the problem is that the reset --hard moved you to a (logical) branch where your other changes don't exist. | 00:46 |
+danny_mk | it is OK, I only need to make changes to the README which I can do manually, then I can add files, wouldn't that be easier? | 00:47 |
@scrottie | where I had you get reset --hard to was the current state of the plainblack webgui repo right after I applied your first patch. your other patches aren't in there. | 00:47 |
+danny_mk | OK | 00:47 |
@scrottie | it's pretty easy to cherry-pick. | 00:47 |
+danny_mk | I will follow the steps | 00:47 |
@scrottie | let's do that first and then figure out what's missing. | 00:47 |
@scrottie | git cherry-pick bc5a3052df80104abae697f17454586723140a82 ... that was the first one | 00:48 |
@scrottie | git cherry-pick c30de6c306b0be75e15855ca34649a638488f07f ... next | 00:48 |
+danny_mk | 9 files changed, 243 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-) | 00:48 |
+danny_mk | 1 files changed, 10 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-) | 00:48 |
+danny_mk | OK | 00:49 |
@scrottie | haarg, by the way, he was working in his master branch with unrelated changes and not having pulled from upstream recently. so the larger goal here is to get him into a branch (done), get those other unrelated chagnes out of that branch (done), and then get back the changes actually related to this branch/project (in progress) | 00:49 |
@scrottie | next up: git cherry-pick ac74244de080d6eabe401fdd7fd3271e61565de6 | 00:49 |
+danny_mk | 3 files changed, 107 insertions(+), 9 deletions(-) | 00:50 |
@scrottie | that's "Using the Selenium server instead of the Selelium IDE" and it's the last one I see in http://pastebin.com/SuWUF6js (working in reverse order, which makes sense, because each commit is on top of ones before it) | 00:50 |
@scrottie | okay. now you should be in pretty good shape there. | 00:50 |
@scrottie | inspect the files and make sure things are basically okay | 00:50 |
+danny_mk | OK, if you say so | 00:50 |
@scrottie | heh | 00:50 |
+danny_mk | stand by | 00:50 |
+danny_mk | OK | 00:51 |
+danny_mk | now what? | 00:51 |
@scrottie | 'git push origin selenium' | 00:51 |
+danny_mk | * [new branch] selenium -> selenium | 00:52 |
@scrottie | that'll push your branch to the "remote" (like haarg was talking about) named "origin", which should be github | 00:52 |
+danny_mk | LOL, the README has our irc conversation | 00:53 |
+danny_mk | have to clean that up | 00:53 |
@scrottie | heh | 00:53 |
@scrottie | yeah, that's a git bug ;) | 00:53 |
* scrottie does git pull https://github.com/dannymk/webgui selenium | 00:54 | |
@scrottie | I see about the IRC conversation. | 00:54 |
@scrottie | you should be able to fix that, add the related files, commit, then push... then tell me after you push and I'll pull that | 00:55 |
+danny_mk | OK, hold on | 00:55 |
@scrottie | no hurry. just narrating git processes. | 00:55 |
+danny_mk | OK, done | 00:57 |
+danny_mk | comments should be eliminated now | 00:57 |
+danny_mk | so, do I always do a git push origin selenium to update my selenium branch instead of my master branch? | 00:58 |
@scrottie | 'git push' by default pushes all of the branches that it can to origin | 00:58 |
@scrottie | where 'all of them that it can' means all of them that don't have commits pushed them that you haven't pulled down yet | 00:58 |
@scrottie | so usually 'git push' is fine. but 'git push origin selenium' in this case would be more explicit. | 00:59 |
+danny_mk | OK, hmmm.... I forgot to put 'run perl test.pl' in the README | 01:02 |
+danny_mk | OH well, have to do that now | 01:02 |
@scrottie | heh. on that topic, one other note... | 01:03 |
@scrottie | it's good not to be in too big of a hurry to push. | 01:03 |
@scrottie | you can rework your commits before you push, but once you push, it's hard to clean up commits. | 01:03 |
@scrottie | not a big deal. ask me later about how to clean up commits if you find that you're getting ready to push stuff and you have too many little commits. | 01:04 |
CIA-69 | webgui: Daniel Maldonado master * rb5b8f96 / (9 files in 2 dirs): Adding frameless tests to get around WebGUI/Selenium frame issue (may be a temporary solution) - http://git.io/87mS3g | 01:05 |
CIA-69 | webgui: Daniel Maldonado master * rcacc744 / selenium/README : Fix test URL - http://git.io/-cmvyw | 01:05 |
CIA-69 | webgui: Daniel Maldonado master * ra9037d6 / (selenium/README selenium/login.html selenium/test.pl): Using the Selenium server instead of the Selelium IDE - http://git.io/R2uIvA | 01:05 |
CIA-69 | webgui: Daniel Maldonado master * rf4aacb9 / selenium/README : Eliminated irc comments - http://git.io/VcIVIQ | 01:05 |
@scrottie | or ask haarg. haarg does know his stuff better than I do, as usual. | 01:05 |
@scrottie | a lot of people will just plan to make a lot of little commits as they go then merge them into one big commit later. | 01:06 |
@scrottie | I never got in that habit. probably should. | 01:07 |
+danny_mk | I do way too many commits but I tend to forget stuff so it is habit, I better be safe than sorry | 01:07 |
@scrottie | no, that's a good way to work. and git does let you clean them up after the fact. | 01:08 |
+danny_mk | well, I definitely will need to learn that later. | 01:08 |
+danny_mk | OK, I have to go now, my teenagers are waiting to be transported to fireworks, will catch up with you guys later this week. I should be on Thursday for critisizm/comments | 01:08 |
@scrottie | later danny_mk! have a good 4th. | 01:09 |
@scrottie | I'll be interested to hear about the bugs you found. | 01:09 |
+danny_mk | by the way scrottie, if you run those tests you will see the bugs in ... | 01:09 |
@scrottie | heh. I guess I should do that shouldn't I. | 01:09 |
@scrottie | in that case, nice work. | 01:10 |
@scrottie | danny_mk++ # writing tests that expose bugs | 01:10 |
+danny_mk | let me get back to you on that, have to make sure the tests are right (hmmm) | 01:11 |
+danny_mk | lord if I keep on typing I will never leave... | 01:12 |
@scrottie | get outta here! cheers. | 01:12 |
+danny_mk | later... have a good 4th everyone... | 01:12 |
+danny_mk | bye | 01:12 |
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+danny_mk | good day | 16:17 |
+danny_mk | scrottie: to bring my branch up to date with any changes you may have made I only have to run "git pull origin selenium" right? | 16:18 |
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@scrottie | mornin' danny_mk | 17:11 |
@scrottie | 'origin selenium' is your 'selenium' branch on your github fork of the plainblack webgui repo | 17:12 |
@scrottie | 'git pull https://github.com/plainblack/webgui master' while you have the selenium branch checked out would pull changes from the plainblack webgui repo's master branch into your selenium branch | 17:13 |
@scrottie | usually people do sub projects in branches and then merge them back into master, so you at some point would probably do 'git checkout master' then 'git merge selenium' to merge everything in the selenium branch into master | 17:15 |
+danny_mk | OK, I am hoping to get the frame stuff worked out today and tomorrow to add more tests | 17:16 |
@scrottie | git merge between branches (I'm a bit fuzzy on this) leaves you with one commit in the log even if it merged a whole bunch of commits, so details of the individual commits are lost. 'git rebase' preserves all of the individual commits. the docs say that 'git merge' is what 'git pull' does, so I'm confused. | 17:17 |
@scrottie | yay. | 17:18 |
+danny_mk | YOUR CONFUSED? I am hoping I don't muck this up when I am ready | 17:18 |
@scrottie | heh | 17:19 |
+danny_mk | OK, back to work, if I run across any issues I will let you know | 17:20 |
@scrottie | well, then, do what I do: 'git log' often and cut and paste the commit hashes into another file. I keep a notes file for projects that I work on that I cut and paste to/from heavily. I keep one-off queries in it, useful output, code fragments, lists of templates I'm working on, etc, and I also leave commit messages with commit hashes in there. | 17:20 |
+danny_mk | OK | 17:20 |
@scrottie | then if I get really confused, I can use those to get a handle on that work | 17:20 |
@scrottie | again with the tree metaphore... if you grab any leaf on a tree, you have a handle on the whole tree. | 17:20 |
@scrottie | each commit hash is like a leaf. | 17:21 |
@scrottie | in git terms, it represents everything between the trunk of the tree and that leaf. thing along the way is another commit. | 17:21 |
@scrottie | those all all of the commits that are in the project as it currently stands after the commit was made that gave you that commit hash. | 17:21 |
@scrottie | if you have that commit hash, you have everything in your project at that moment in time. | 17:22 |
@scrottie | that leaf is 'HEAD'. | 17:22 |
@scrottie | if you check out another branch, or do a merge, or rebase, or reset or merge conflicts, you'll wind up with a different 'HEAD' that represents a different leaf on the tree | 17:22 |
@scrottie | 'git reflog' is a log of times when 'HEAD' changes for any reason: you commited something else to a branch; you checked out another branch; you merged; etc | 17:23 |
@scrottie | that's also useful for getting a handle on work you did before that is a bit misplaced | 17:23 |
@scrottie | then when in serious doubt, you can 'git checkout <branch>', 'git reste --hard <whatever commit hash you want to go back to>', then start 'git cherry-picking <commit hash>'ing on each commit you want back again relative to that point | 17:24 |
@scrottie | like I made you do the other day | 17:24 |
@scrottie | okay, I shut up now. | 17:24 |
+danny_mk | hmmm... you make it sound simple | 17:25 |
@scrottie | git is a PITA to learn, but it *does* (mostly) make sense. | 17:25 |
@scrottie | understanding what things are (HEAD, commit hashes) helps make sense of all of it. | 17:25 |
+danny_mk | my biggest hurdle seems to be understanding the difference between my local repo, my github branch and the plainblack->selenium branch | 17:25 |
+danny_mk | I know when I commit I am doing commits to my local repo | 17:26 |
+danny_mk | when I do a git push, I am pushing/updating my github repo | 17:26 |
@scrottie | each branch is kind of like its own repo, except that it's really easy to move things between branches | 17:26 |
@scrottie | and 'git reflog' keeps track of changes to what 'HEAD' currently is across your entire local repo, not just on any branch of it | 17:27 |
@scrottie | so it's useful to think in terms of branches | 17:27 |
@scrottie | which commits are in which branches | 17:27 |
@scrottie | and that's the most significant difference between your selenium branch and the plainblack master branch... which commits are in each | 17:28 |
@scrottie | often, you'll have some that the plainblack master one doesn't, and it'll have some that you don't, and that's okay | 17:28 |
+danny_mk | OK | 17:29 |
@scrottie | looking for one example | 17:30 |
@scrottie | don't see how to do this without editing your .git/config | 17:32 |
+danny_mk | don't worry about it, when I get ready to update the remote repo with my changes I will contact you | 17:33 |
+danny_mk | my local repo is up to date | 17:33 |
@scrottie | here's a good way to see the exact differences between two branches... | 17:33 |
@scrottie | git log selenium..master | 17:33 |
@scrottie | git log master..selenium | 17:33 |
@scrottie | the first one shows you the commits that the master branch has that the selenium branch doesn't (yet) | 17:34 |
@scrottie | you could merge, rebase, or cherry-pick those in | 17:34 |
@scrottie | the second shows you the commits that the selenium branch has that the master branch doesn't (yet) | 17:34 |
@scrottie | you can also do: git log master..origin/master | 17:35 |
@scrottie | to figure out what origin/master has that you don't have yet in your local copy of the master branch | 17:35 |
@scrottie | for example | 17:35 |
@scrottie | .git/config tells you what 'origin' is... and you can add other "remotes" there, too. you could add a "plainblack" remote, if you wanted to. | 17:36 |
@scrottie | origin for me is git@github.com:/plainblack/webgui. for you, it is probably git@github.com:/dannkmk/webgui | 17:36 |
@scrottie | that's a good way to figure out what a merge or rebase or pull or push is going to do, before you actually attempt it. | 17:37 |
+danny_mk | yup, my origin is set to: url = ssh://git@github.com/dannymk/webgui.git | 17:37 |
@scrottie | if you put another entry in there for plainblack, you could do git log selenium..plainblack/master | 17:40 |
@scrottie | 'git diff' works like 'git log' but shows you the changes to the files in addition to just the commit message | 17:40 |
+danny_mk | OK | 17:41 |
haarg | you can also use git log -p if you want the normal log behavior, but with the changes | 18:02 |
haarg | git remote -v will tell you the remote config if you don't want to go into the config file itself | 18:03 |
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+danny_mk | sbaur: good day, selenium question of the day: Is there a way to test Ifram/Frame verifyElementPresent? | 18:16 |
+danny_mk | everything I read/find seems to point to using the WebDriver to write the tests. I was hoping to use the IDE but that seems limited. | 18:17 |
sbaur | I haven't had to do that so I'm not sure. | 18:17 |
sbaur | I haven't moved beyond the IDE, so cannot help with the webdriver. | 18:17 |
+danny_mk | there is a Perl module that would definitely do it: Selenium::Remote::Driver but I would have to write all those tests manually instead of using the IDE, the IDE is very convinient | 18:18 |
+danny_mk | OK | 18:18 |
sbaur | you can do something like assertElementPresent //div[@id='panel3']/div[2]/div/ul/li[2] | 18:19 |
sbaur | if you can find it in the dom... | 18:19 |
sbaur | but it isn't specifically for iframes | 18:20 |
+danny_mk | right | 18:20 |
+danny_mk | I guess I will test without the frames for now | 18:20 |
sbaur | good luck | 18:20 |
+danny_mk | thanks | 18:20 |
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+danny_mk | scrottie: OK, ready for my first commit of the day | 19:25 |
@scrottie | danny_mk, any quesiton in particular? | 19:56 |
+danny_mk | well, I just want to walk through it one time with you just to make sure I do it right | 20:05 |
+danny_mk | if you have time | 20:05 |
@scrottie | commit something? | 20:06 |
@scrottie | git add <whatever>, git commit | 20:06 |
+danny_mk | http://pastebin.com/C7MWuaSq | 20:07 |
@scrottie | you were committing changes before. that doesn't change. | 20:10 |
+danny_mk | OK | 20:10 |
+danny_mk | OK, changes commited | 20:12 |
@scrottie | http://gitready.com/advanced/2009/02/10/squashing-commits-with-rebase.html ... that's one way to merge multiple commits together, if you've made a lot of smaller commits but want to bundle up that work into one larger commit | 20:15 |
+danny_mk | OK, I will keep a note for next time. Made many changes but just one commit | 20:16 |
+danny_mk | now, do I push my changes to my github repo? | 20:20 |
@scrottie | yup. 'git push' should do that. you should get message about 'selenium -> selenium' in addition to messages for other branches you have | 20:22 |
+danny_mk | 4335a6d..4ecadc6 selenium -> selenium | 20:24 |
+danny_mk | done? | 20:24 |
@scrottie | yup, that pushed. then at some point, get my attention and have me merge that into the plainblack repo. | 20:24 |
@scrottie | and whatever other patches should go. | 20:25 |
+danny_mk | OK, will do | 20:26 |
+danny_mk | thank you | 20:26 |
@scrottie | sure thing. thank you! | 20:26 |
haarg | another option for squashing a merge is git merge --squash. i generally don't do that though; if i'm squashing commits i use rebase -i to have full control. | 20:50 |
haarg | like most things in git, there are 5 different workflows to choose from | 20:51 |
+danny_mk | gotit | 20:54 |
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CIA-69 | webgui: Scott Walters master * r55aead8 / (lib/WebGUI/Config.pm sbin/testEnvironment.pl): Config::JSON stopped providing a BUILDARGS method, so we can't "around" it. subclass new() the old fashioned way and bump the Config::JSON version dep so we know we're getting the non-Moose one. - http://git.io/q9f2dQ | 10:49 |
@scrottie | https://gist.github.com/2973558 ... an attempt at a webgui installer. needs more testing, support for CentOS/RedHat, and it needs to be FatPacker-ed up so it can be ran straight away | 10:59 |
@scrottie | it's missing some things from the WRE setup still too. | 11:00 |
ckotil | interesting | 16:05 |
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ckotil | Is it possible to only display the search engine friendly URL? | 17:29 |
ckotil | too often , /uploads/94/67/9467a , these URLs get spread around, and people complain when they are out of date | 17:29 |
xdanger | you can use the streaming uploads, but that's only for File assets and I don't know if the "ui" side of it is working. | 17:34 |
ckotil | Ill try it. I see the option in my webgui.conf | 17:43 |
ckotil | thanks for the info xdanger | 17:46 |
ckotil | im seeing something wierd. streamingUploads is disabled on my dev and production site. yet the dev site doesn't redirect u to /uploads/94/67/9467a like the production site does | 17:53 |
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@scrottie | select value from settings where name='enableStreamingUploads' .. | 19:45 |
@scrottie | I'm not sure how that *works*. it doesn't seem to do anything other than set a value. | 19:47 |
ckotil | that name field doesn't exist in the dev or production. | 19:48 |
@scrottie | might be worth a try (setting it) but I really don't see how this feature works | 19:49 |
ckotil | heh. k. ill try it | 19:49 |
@scrottie | and no idea on your dev machine | 19:49 |
@scrottie | Apache handling redirects internally...? but that wouldn't happen in the request phase. | 19:50 |
ckotil | im doing apache proxying between vhosts/multiple domains | 19:50 |
ckotil | the dev and production both do it. | 19:51 |
ckotil | completely separate tho. | 19:51 |
ckotil | yeah, setting that did nothing. | 19:54 |
ckotil | oh well. not a huge deal. | 19:54 |
@scrottie | well, if you care about the feature and it isn't working, it may be worth opening a ticket for | 20:08 |
ckotil | ok, ill make a personal note, and try to spend some time on it. then ill open a ticket | 20:49 |
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@scrottie | danny_mk! howdy. | 21:02 |
+danny_mk | hey | 21:03 |
+danny_mk | whats up? | 21:03 |
CIA-69 | webgui: Scott Walters master * r560e722 / (lib/WebGUI/Config.pm sbin/testEnvironment.pl): | 21:05 |
CIA-69 | webgui: Revert "Config::JSON stopped providing a BUILDARGS method, so we can't "around" | 21:05 |
CIA-69 | webgui: it. subclass new() the old fashioned way and bump the Config::JSON version dep | 21:05 |
CIA-69 | webgui: so we know we're getting the non-Moose one." - http://git.io/7zjWDg | 21:05 |
@scrottie | https://gist.github.com/2973558 ... preliminary version of my installer. I chickened out on doing everything automatically and added a Curses UI. | 21:05 |
@scrottie | haven't actually tested on a new, bare Debian system yet. | 21:06 |
@scrottie | stole heavily from xdanger's installer .sh, perlDreamer's WRE scripts, my install instructions, etc | 21:06 |
haarg | i'm tempted to convert Config::JSON to use Moo or something | 21:06 |
haarg | i probably would if i was still actively working on wgdev | 21:07 |
@scrottie | my Moose is very sick. | 21:07 |
@scrottie | I think I'm experiencing Early Adopter Poison. | 21:07 |
@scrottie | I had the same thing with Google Apps. I beta-tested "Google for your Domain" probably ten years and completely messed up all of my related Google accounts indefinately afterewards. | 21:08 |
+danny_mk | I get bitten by the bug often :-/ | 21:09 |
+danny_mk | s/the/that/ | 21:09 |
@scrottie | find /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl | wc -l # 25515 ... lots of room for a long forgotten bad version of some undelcared dep of a dep of a dep to hide | 21:09 |
haarg | i don't generally have any issues with Moose, but it's really painful on the command line | 21:10 |
@scrottie | I hate Moose because I spend large number of hours dealing with it and I don't even use it myself, and this long ago created a vicious cycle where I don't use it because I don't use it and I spend time cleaning up after it. | 21:12 |
@scrottie | it's like picking up bottles and cans off of your yard when you don't even drink. it just makes you even more so not want to drink. | 21:13 |
@scrottie | the situation has changed from years ago when Moose merely had an abysmal chance of successful installation according to CPAN and I'd have to fight with it for hours if I wanted to use something that used it on one of the sparcs or on a BSD machine, but it still *feels* like the same thing. | 21:13 |
@scrottie | I wouldn't even care that they built a slow object around glob replacement and wrapping if it worked right. | 21:14 |
@scrottie | every generation of programmers develops some obsessive, highly technology specific, cargo-cult-ish notion of what software quality is and abandons all sense in persuit of it. | 21:15 |
* scrottie ran out of milk and had his espresso straight up this morning | 21:16 | |
@scrottie | there have been some hard-to-diagnose bugs in wG8 as a result of someone having some specific version of Class::MOP. supporting *Moose* isn't that bad; supporting all of the Mooses out there gets to be a bit like trying to support Android. | 21:19 |
+danny_mk | scrottie: on a hopefully posstitive note most tests are coming, I just have to figure our how to delete a metadata property after adding it | 21:23 |
@scrottie | yay | 21:24 |
+danny_mk | I mean things like that which are not referenced by a specific attribute id or css class | 21:24 |
+danny_mk | I figure the tests should definitely add a property->check to make sure the property is there->delete the property | 21:25 |
+danny_mk | check to make sure the property is not there | 21:25 |
+danny_mk | stuff like that | 21:25 |
@scrottie | I have no idea! which property? why would you want to delete a property? | 21:26 |
+danny_mk | NO | 21:27 |
@scrottie | ?? | 21:27 |
+danny_mk | like under: ?func=manageMetaData | 21:28 |
@scrottie | ooh, not an HTML/CSS property in the source of the document, but a WebGUI metadata property | 21:28 |
+danny_mk | adding a new metadata item | 21:28 |
+danny_mk | then deleting it | 21:28 |
+danny_mk | the same with advertising/databases/etc... | 21:29 |
+danny_mk | have to test functionality | 21:29 |
@scrottie | ahhh. | 21:31 |
+danny_mk | if there is only one clickable image on the page it is easy but under content filters we have a table->tr->td... | 21:32 |
+danny_mk | I would have to iterate over all the rows in the table and test for my "search for" term... | 21:33 |
@scrottie | JS UIs. eek. | 21:43 |
@scrottie | that worst part is that you can only test implementation. | 21:43 |
+danny_mk | not sure how and even if it is worth the effort to do this reliably | 21:59 |
@scrottie | probably not. | 21:59 |
+danny_mk | maybe just test to make sure I can add items, not so much delete them where I can't | 22:00 |
+danny_mk | well, were I can't do it the same way every time | 22:00 |
+danny_mk | I will have to make a note of those tests | 22:02 |
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CIA-69 | wrebuild: Colin Kuskie wre7 * ra58b139 / (3 files in 2 dirs): Add a graceful restart for modperl/modproxy to wreservice. - http://git.io/MUQswA | 00:03 |
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CIA-69 | webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.10 * ra3f5b3a / (docs/changelog/7.x.x.txt lib/WebGUI/Friends.pm): Handle the case when a friend approve message no longer exist. - http://git.io/JnUNsQ | 02:12 |
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+danny_mk | quick quetion: At a WUC a while ago someone asked about dynamically loading/configuring modules (Macros/WObjects). Is the community looking into this? It is undesirable to have to restart apache every time we load a new module or make configuration changes. | 22:05 |
@scrottie | Yeah, I think dynamic configuration would be a big improvement over storing configuration in the config file. | 22:09 |
@scrottie | if there's a module there, use it | 22:09 |
+danny_mk | right, so no one has talked about it? | 22:10 |
@scrottie | hrm? shouldn't be too hard. | 22:12 |
@scrottie | patches welcome. | 22:12 |
+danny_mk | I hope not because that would be an excellent feature | 22:12 |
@scrottie | one of my goals is to modularize WebGUI so I can put it on CPAN. | 22:13 |
@scrottie | that fits in well with that. | 22:13 |
+danny_mk | You mean so that we can have an interface and the user that is running the WebGUI instance go to cpan and install a local copy of the module? | 22:14 |
+danny_mk | THAT WOULD BE GREAT! | 22:14 |
@scrottie | it would be dumb to install WebGUI from CPAN, then if you wanted the Survey asset (if it didn't come with for some reason), have to do cpanm WebGUI::Asset::Wobject::Survey (the Wobject should go too but that's another discussion) and then have to edit your config file or have your WEBGUI_CONFIG environment variable set so that the Makefile.PL in the CPAN module knows how to do upgrades. | 22:14 |
@scrottie | local copies of modules would make probes harder... that would call for some kind of a manifest list of installed modules, which puts us back where were are | 22:15 |
@scrottie | basically | 22:15 |
@scrottie | hrm. or maybe not. | 22:15 |
@scrottie | there's preload.custom right now. | 22:15 |
@scrottie | that should go away in favor of scanning @INC. | 22:15 |
@scrottie | if you did plackup -I/my/webgui/lib app.psgi, then WebGUI would find any modules in /my/webgui/lib while scanning @INC | 22:16 |
+danny_mk | well, you have my vote if you want to tackle that. | 22:16 |
@scrottie | it would just have to recognize them as WebGUI modules. so they'd have to start with "WebGUI::". | 22:16 |
@scrottie | post an RFE on webgui.org/8 ;) | 22:16 |
@scrottie | I'll comment on it. | 22:16 |
+danny_mk | sure, we should have an install->enable option | 22:16 |
@scrottie | I've got a command line ticket filer in a gist somewhere too. I really should add that to WebGUI's sbin. | 22:17 |
+danny_mk | OK | 22:17 |
@scrottie | a bot that opens tickets would be nice too | 22:17 |
+danny_mk | There is no: http://www.webgui.org/8/rfe/ you mean http://www.webgui.org/rfe/, right? | 22:19 |
+danny_mk | then select WebGUI beta | 22:20 |
+danny_mk | right??? | 22:21 |
@scrottie | ugh. those two trackers need to be reconciled. | 22:23 |
@scrottie | maybe just put it at webgui.org/8 ? | 22:23 |
@scrottie | that's the one I pay attention to | 22:23 |
@scrottie | perlDreamer pays attention to the other one, fixing bugs in 7 | 22:23 |
@scrottie | maybe the "beta" option for webgui.org/ref needs to go away | 22:24 |
+danny_mk | OK | 22:25 |
@scrottie | afk a few. grocery run. | 22:43 |
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CIA-69 | webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.10 * rf25e394 / lib/WebGUI/Operation/VersionTag.pm : These secondary canView checks are not needed, since the whole thing is guarded by the canView at the top of www_manageRevisions. - http://git.io/aMvYjw | 00:35 |
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CIA-69 | webgui: Martin Kamerbeek plebgui-7.10 * rb1bb15e / (12 files in 6 dirs): Merge branch 'plebgui' into plebgui-7.10 - http://git.io/QRHjnQ | 15:50 |
CIA-69 | webgui: Martin Kamerbeek plebgui-7.10 * r544a62d / (5 files in 5 dirs): Fix a number of issues that arise when mod_perl is not installed. - http://git.io/MezNkg | 15:50 |
CIA-69 | webgui: Martin Kamerbeek plebgui-7.10 * r476ddbd / sbin/testEnvironment.pl : Make Apache2::request optional and add a dependency for PLack to testEnvironment - http://git.io/aHuXqg | 15:50 |
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CIA-69 | webgui: Martin Kamerbeek plebgui-7.10 * rc0f2dd5 / lib/WebGUI/Wizard/Setup.pm : Fix missing use statement in WebGUI::Wizard::Setup - http://git.io/GbQs2g | 16:09 |
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@scrottie | patspam. | 20:25 |
@scrottie | cheers. | 20:25 |
ckotil | http://www.rollingstones.com/webgui | 20:27 |
@scrottie | WordPress? | 20:30 |
@scrottie | URL is 404...? | 20:30 |
ckotil | yeah, but look closer | 20:32 |
ckotil | listen rather | 20:33 |
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+patspam | scrottie: *tips hat* | 22:37 |
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MarkLeightonFis1 | It also works for http://www.rollingstones.com/joomla! ... | 23:27 |
ckotil | and www.rollingstones.com/i_hate_updating_joomla_every_month | 23:33 |
MarkLeightonFis1 | and on and on into the night ... | 23:35 |
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+SynQ | hi there | 01:13 |
+SynQ | is webgui8 existing or none existing? | 01:13 |
+SynQ | just so that I don't look in the wrong place for it :) | 01:14 |
@scrottie | heh | 01:20 |
@scrottie | webgui8 exists | 01:20 |
@scrottie | the place to get it is http://github.com/plainblack/webgui | 01:21 |
@scrottie | if you do 'git clone' on the clone URL it gives you, you'll get a copy of it | 01:21 |
@scrottie | the install process is kind of a pain, and there are still bugs in it (especially in the admin interface; the API is pretty well tested at this pint) | 01:22 |
@scrottie | I'm working on an installer for it | 01:22 |
@scrottie | WebGUI7 is still considered to be the "stable" version. if you're non-technical or don't want to spend time reporting bugs (or fixing them), you should use 7. | 01:22 |
+SynQ | hehe | 01:37 |
+SynQ | I guess I don't fall under the non-technical denominator :) | 01:38 |
+SynQ | I have heared say that I'm <quote>very competent</quote> :P | 01:39 |
+SynQ | good to know that it exists though | 01:41 |
+SynQ | I'll ask martink what to do about it then :) | 01:42 |
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CIA-69 | webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.10 * rd7b0468 / lib/WebGUI/Cache.pm : No indirect object syntax. - http://git.io/F7Mw2A | 18:59 |
@scrottie | yarr. | 21:21 |
CIA-69 | wgdev: Mark Leighton Fisher master * r0d53d61 / lib/WGDev/Command/Ls.pm : Added '-d' option to list only the specified Asset(s) (similar to '-d' in ls(1)). - http://git.io/IKbEUw | 21:54 |
CIA-69 | wgdev: Mark Leighton Fisher master * r94018b6 / (lib/WGDev/Command/User.pm lib/WGDev/X.pm): Added "--delete userId [userId ...]" option to the "user" command - http://git.io/cUOHZw | 21:54 |
CIA-69 | wgdev: Graham Knop master * r20bccdc / Changes : v0.1207160 - http://git.io/8ZAk2w | 21:54 |
CIA-69 | wgdev: Mark Leighton Fisher user-delete-ls-dash-d * r378137d / (lib/WGDev/Command/User.pm lib/WGDev/X.pm): Added "--delete userId [userId ...]" option to the "user" command - http://git.io/kI0ixg | 21:54 |
CIA-69 | wgdev: --global user-delete-ls-dash-d * r55ada55 / (README lib/WGDev/Command/Batchedit.pm): Added Command/Batchedit.pm and updated the README for me as a contributor. - http://git.io/QWwpUw | 21:54 |
CIA-69 | wgdev: Mark Leighton Fisher user-delete-ls-dash-d * ra7c470d / lib/WGDev/Command/Ls.pm : Added '-d' option to list only the specified Asset(s) (similar to '-d' in ls(1)). - http://git.io/5Zqx7Q | 21:54 |
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@scrottie | patspam, what the heck is wrong with your linode? | 10:27 |
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+patspam | :) | 10:28 |
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sbaur | scrottie or daviddelikat: I've got a strange thing happening on one of my 7.5.40 sites | 18:29 |
@daviddelikat | hmm, we never see strange things... | 18:30 |
@daviddelikat | what's up? | 18:30 |
sbaur | A content manager added to files yesterday. Today, when trying to access those files through the url (not the uploads path) they are giving 404 | 18:30 |
sbaur | I found them in the uploads folder, used the storageid to get their assetids and there are no other revisions of those files and no other urls associated with them | 18:31 |
sbaur | If I'm not logged in, it says you need to be logged in to view them | 18:31 |
sbaur | if i am logged in (as admin) I get a 404 | 18:31 |
@daviddelikat | try adding ?func=edit to the url | 18:31 |
sbaur | s/to/two/ | 18:31 |
sbaur | that brings up the edit file | 18:32 |
sbaur | and it's set to Everyone can view | 18:32 |
@daviddelikat | so you can see the file in the edit form? | 18:32 |
sbaur | it says it's there... | 18:32 |
sbaur | and the link is to the correct place in the uploads dir | 18:33 |
@daviddelikat | ... thinking... | 18:33 |
@daviddelikat | can I take a look at them? | 18:34 |
sbaur | sure, let me see if I have a wg account for this site... | 18:34 |
@daviddelikat | would it make sence to open a ticket for this? | 18:34 |
sbaur | It's on my own server, not a pb server... | 18:35 |
@daviddelikat | ah | 18:35 |
sbaur | I'm going to try something first (adding something to the summary and re saving the file) Let it try to fix itself | 18:35 |
@daviddelikat | ok | 18:36 |
sbaur | well, that didn't work | 18:37 |
sbaur | And, I can't see the file in the assetmanager | 18:38 |
sbaur | could mixed up lineage cause this | 18:39 |
@daviddelikat | lineage could cause the asset manager issue | 18:40 |
@daviddelikat | not sure about the 404 issue | 18:40 |
@daviddelikat | try clearing the cache | 18:41 |
sbaur | as fyi, when I saved the metadata, it did do what it was supposed to as far as I can tell, created a new revision, with a new storageId | 18:41 |
@daviddelikat | you may need to clear browser cache also | 18:42 |
* sbaur clearing caches | 18:42 | |
sbaur | my browser cache is unhappy, though that wouldn't explain 3 different computers having the same symptoms | 18:43 |
@daviddelikat | true | 18:43 |
sbaur | cache's did not make a difference | 18:43 |
@daviddelikat | any chance there is a permission or ownership issue with the physical file? | 18:43 |
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sbaur | owned by webgui in the uploads dir | 18:44 |
@daviddelikat | another bit to check: there may a .wgaccess file in the directory, check and see what it says | 18:44 |
sbaur | no wgaccess files | 18:45 |
sbaur | I think I'm going to try running the rebuild lineage script... | 18:46 |
sbaur | one other datapoint, my content editor "swears" it worked yesterday after she uploaded these files. It only stopped working this morning | 18:46 |
* sbaur backing up site now... | 18:50 | |
@daviddelikat | I can't think of anything else without looking | 18:53 |
sbaur | lineage rebuild doesn't seem to have helped... | 19:01 |
@daviddelikat | does it show up in the asset manager? | 19:01 |
sbaur | I need to step away from my comp for a bit. I'll look into it again in a few min. | 19:01 |
sbaur | If I'm at the file's page and add ?op=assetManager it shows up(with no records found). But if I click the breadcrumbs to go up one level, it is not there | 19:02 |
sbaur | bbiab | 19:03 |
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sbaur | I'm back | 19:51 |
sbaur | OK, something is really funky with these files. I just tried uploading them a second time, this time into the Media folder using filepile, and they do not show up. | 19:52 |
sbaur | (in the asset manager) | 19:52 |
sbaur | ok, if I do them singly, they show up. they are both PDFs. so strange | 19:54 |
sbaur | Now that I've deleted the files, they show up in the trash just fine... | 20:05 |
sbaur | So strange. I've worked around the problem for now, but I don't know what process caused them to go wonky last night... | 20:09 |
sbaur | maybe I'll run the daily workflow by hand | 20:09 |
@scrottie | do the wG demo and try to replicate it there? if it's still happening, open a bug ticket? | 20:10 |
@scrottie | er, still happening in a newer version of wG. | 20:11 |
sbaur | i don't know if i can even replicate it on my system | 20:11 |
sbaur | it is just wonky | 20:11 |
@scrottie | ah, thought it meant that it reliably gave 404s trying to view them if you uploaded two pdfs at once | 20:11 |
sbaur | running the daily workflow did not cause my new copies of the files to disappear | 20:11 |
sbaur | oh, that bit. I will uploading two pdfs. But I did not get 404s from that, It just didn't upload them at all | 20:12 |
sbaur | s/will/will try/ | 20:12 |
sbaur | I'll let you know tomorrow or next week or next month, if the individually uploaded files disappear out of the asset manager, but are still in the DB and the uploads directory again, assuming it ever happens again | 20:13 |
@scrottie | "ok, if I do them singly, they show up. they are both PDFs. so strange" | 20:14 |
@scrottie | alright, good luck! | 20:15 |
sbaur | look back about an hour and 45 min for my original problem... | 20:15 |
@scrottie | I think the correct thing to do, from a support perspective, would be to read through the change log, identify any bug fixes that may be related... | 20:16 |
sbaur | I cannot duplicate the uploading two pdfs, does not upload anything problem on demo | 20:19 |
* sbaur hopes this strange behavior is not just the first sign of serious problems | 20:20 | |
@scrottie | sbaur, please keep good backups. there are any number of disasters that can strike... comprimised accounts, hardware failures, database corruption, etc. | 20:22 |
sbaur | backs up every day, and those backups get copied to a different server everyday... | 20:22 |
sbaur | barring fire/or other things that take out my whole rack, I should be ok... | 20:22 |
@scrottie | good. that and your upload files, and you should be mostly disaster proof. | 20:22 |
* scrottie nods | 20:23 | |
@scrottie | I have a script somewhere that exports wgpkgs of every asset that was edited since a given date | 20:23 |
sbaur | that could be most useful... | 20:23 |
@scrottie | you're welcome to a copy. (I really should do something with all of these one-offs). it seems like that could help make for an easy incremental backup setup. | 20:24 |
sbaur | are packages compatible between versions? i.e. would a package taken from a 7.5.x site be importable into a 7.10.x site? | 20:25 |
@scrottie | a fresh 7.5 might not exhibit that problem either. it may be a sort of database corruption. still, if it's easily reproduceable, we wanna fix it. | 20:25 |
@scrottie | in general, no. | 20:26 |
@scrottie | there's no single major incompatability, just thousands of small changes | 20:26 |
sbaur | darn, i was hoping for a way to get around stop versions... | 20:26 |
@scrottie | the upgrade scripts really are necessary. | 20:26 |
@scrottie | hrm. App::Nopaste really works on and off with gist, and I love gist, and I don't know what the details are with the other services. | 20:31 |
@scrottie | and right now, for me, it's off. | 20:32 |
haarg | i think App::Nopaste still uses the old API, which they have been moving away from and might be gone now | 20:32 |
@scrottie | sbaur, there's that script, in case it is useful: http://pastie.org/4272875 | 20:32 |
haarg | or actually it looks like it's been updated for the new api | 20:33 |
@scrottie | haarg, supposedly the latest version changes to the new API, but it just fails in a different way for me. hopefully it fails the same way for someone else so they can report the bug for me so that Shaun can fix it for me without me having to do anything except try to upgrade the thing every time I go to use it and it doesn't work. | 20:33 |
* scrottie nods | 20:33 | |
@scrottie | couple of days ago | 20:33 |
@scrottie | I should just add that to my daily cron... cpanm App::Nopaste | 20:33 |
@scrottie | haha, what am I talking about. I don't run cron. | 20:34 |
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+danny_mk | scrottie: hey, how are you. | 20:39 |
@scrottie | a bit strung out on code | 20:40 |
@scrottie | ICFP contest last weekend, then straight back into work | 20:40 |
@scrottie | yourself? | 20:40 |
+danny_mk | LOL, I bet | 20:40 |
+danny_mk | trying to get everything done at work, lots of Java stuff but eager to complete most of the WebGUI tests to move forward as I am anxiously waiting WebGUI8 prime so I can use WebGUI on some of my other projects | 20:41 |
+danny_mk | My boss is not here today so I will be able to write more tests | 20:42 |
+danny_mk | :-/ | 20:42 |
+danny_mk | by teh way what is the ICFP? | 20:48 |
@scrottie | w00t | 20:48 |
@scrottie | http://icfpcontest2012.wordpress.com/ | 20:49 |
@scrottie | it's part of a conference for functional programming languages (Ocaml, Haskell, Lisp, etc), designed to show off the advantages of functional programming languages. Haskell and Ocaml implementations tend to win. this year, the challenge was to implement a solver for Boulderdash-like puzzles. I did it in SNOBOL ;) | 20:50 |
+danny_mk | Lord have mercy, you have time for that stuff? Good for you. How do you think you did? | 20:51 |
@scrottie | intermediate. I worked Friday and then had a friends going away party Friday evening which meant that I wasn't functional until late in the morning on Saturday, then I went to bed at 5am Sunday night when the contest ran until something like 7am, my time, so I didn't spend nearly as much time on it as I could have. | 20:54 |
@scrottie | one friend took Friday off. | 20:55 |
@scrottie | I also slept a number of hours Sat night. a few years ago, friends got together and we slept very little and worked the whole time. | 20:55 |
@scrottie | er, worked over the duration of the contest. | 20:56 |
@scrottie | going into a meeting in a minute here, probably... | 20:56 |
@scrottie | I probably should have been working on the installer instead, and now breakage has been discovered... | 20:56 |
+danny_mk | LOL | 20:58 |
+danny_mk | that made me laugh | 20:58 |
+danny_mk | sorry | 20:59 |
+danny_mk | Good for you, kind of hard to stay focused some times heh? | 20:59 |
@scrottie | https://gist.github.com/3113445 if you're curious. a more serious stab at it would need a more serious strategy and probably some good AI. | 21:00 |
@scrottie | yeah. just not enough time for everything. | 21:00 |
+danny_mk | I have an application that I have been wanting to work on for two years now and I have only written about 50 lines of code. | 21:05 |
+danny_mk | definitely just not enough time | 21:05 |
sbaur | Thanks for the script scrotitie! | 21:08 |
+danny_mk | scrottie: good job | 21:12 |
CIA-69 | webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.10 * r6ca603e / (docs/changelog/7.x.x.txt lib/WebGUI/Form/AssetReportQuery.pm): Let the AssetReport asset search over all wobjects. - http://git.io/gIQ4gg | 21:28 |
@scrottie | sbaur, sure thing | 21:33 |
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+danny_mk | scrottie: got a lot done today, will talk about a commit tomorrow after I fix a few issues | 01:02 |
+danny_mk | have a good night | 01:02 |
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vanjwilson | Does anyone know if you can call a WebGUI macro in the "Extra <head> tags"? | 16:49 |
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ckotil | I think so. | 17:35 |
+danny_mk | scrottie: ready for another comit | 17:40 |
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vanjwilson | Don't know if anyone answered by question about Macros in "extra <head> tags"--(Ubuntu 12.04 crashed again)--but I found instances where I had used them that way before, so I think it must be something wrong with my new macro | 18:01 |
+danny_mk | vanjwilson: my boss just called me for a meeting, should not last long. I can do it in my local env test and let you know. | 18:02 |
+danny_mk | brb | 18:02 |
vanjwilson | thanks danny_mk, but it was a wetware error (I forgot to use JSON at the top of an included custom module, but it didn't throw an error with perl -c, or in the logs) | 18:24 |
+danny_mk | vanjwilson: glad you got it working. | 19:04 |
+danny_mk | scrottie: I am ready for another push to ??? | 19:05 |
+danny_mk | brb | 19:16 |
@scrottie | a'ight, let me do my email and get some coffee in me (not in that order) | 19:54 |
+danny_mk | scrottie: back from my lunch walk | 20:22 |
@scrottie | I'm kind of here, mostly. | 20:23 |
+danny_mk | ok, I have committed my chances to my local copy | 20:23 |
+danny_mk | have not pushed them to: github.com/dannymk/webgui.git | 20:23 |
@scrottie | let's see. what were we doing before? I think you only need to commit stuff and push it up and tell me you did it. | 20:23 |
@scrottie | but I offered to help merge patches if you wanted to. but that's up to you. I could do that after pulling your changes also. | 20:24 |
+danny_mk | It would be great if I could just push changes to my selenium branch at: github.com/dannymk/webgui.git | 20:25 |
+danny_mk | and you could get them from there | 20:25 |
+danny_mk | pull | 20:25 |
@scrottie | yup! | 20:25 |
@scrottie | another thing you can do is use github to send a "pull request" | 20:25 |
@scrottie | that generates an email with a link to a page with a button on it. that way, everyone here sees the proposed change, and anyone can just click the button to add the change. | 20:26 |
+danny_mk | I did, not sure my last one was "pulled"? | 20:26 |
@scrottie | hmm? didn't see the github email. | 20:26 |
+danny_mk | not really sure how that works | 20:26 |
+danny_mk | I have an OpenId pull request | 20:26 |
@scrottie | and I think it only does individual commits that way. you can't send a github branch merge request, as far as I know. | 20:26 |
@scrottie | oh. | 20:26 |
@scrottie | let me see | 20:26 |
+danny_mk | maybe I should have made an AlternateId branch | 20:27 |
@scrottie | some of these tasks require reading English, something I'm not necessarily up to before noon. | 20:28 |
@scrottie | "Oauth2 and OpenId modules" | 20:28 |
+danny_mk | yup | 20:28 |
+danny_mk | that has nothing to do with Selenium | 20:29 |
@scrottie | for some reason, there are 8 pull requests | 20:29 |
@scrottie | don't know why I didn't see *any* of those emails | 20:29 |
+danny_mk | Hmmm... I thought I only did one | 20:29 |
+danny_mk | oh well | 20:29 |
@scrottie | the rest of daviddelikat, who could accept his own pull requests... but maybe he wants code review...? | 20:30 |
@scrottie | er, the rest are from | 20:30 |
@scrottie | delikat, what's up with those pull requests? | 20:30 |
@daviddelikat | hmmm, going to have to read a few back posts... | 20:30 |
@scrottie | https://github.com/plainblack/webgui/pulls | 20:30 |
@daviddelikat | oye | 20:32 |
@daviddelikat | I though Colin had taken care of those... | 20:32 |
@scrottie | and apparently I was wrong. your oath pull request has several commits to it. | 20:32 |
@daviddelikat | as far as I knwo you can ignore all of my pull requests | 20:34 |
@daviddelikat | though you should probably not delete them | 20:34 |
+danny_mk | If I push my selenium branch to: https://github.com/dannymk/webgui/tree/selenium can you pickup the changes from there or do I have to do it some other way? | 20:35 |
@scrottie | some jpgs and Selenium stuff made it into the pull request... and a .swf... I'm going to deny that pull request (if I can figure out how) but I can see about reworking it. one other thing though, before I add this, it needs tests. I can help with that (or try to). | 20:37 |
@scrottie | yup, re pushing your selenium branch | 20:37 |
@scrottie | you should be able to 'git push origin selenium' | 20:37 |
@scrottie | to do that | 20:37 |
+danny_mk | I feel I should create a separate branch for my OpenId/OAuth stuff | 20:37 |
+danny_mk | let me push this selenium stuff up first | 20:37 |
@scrottie | sure | 20:38 |
@scrottie | also, was the OAuth stuff written for 7? | 20:38 |
+danny_mk | It should work for both 7-8 | 20:38 |
@scrottie | hrm. the Auth:: API changed in 8. have you tried it in 8? | 20:39 |
+danny_mk | nope, but I will right after this stuff | 20:39 |
@scrottie | and there was the whole Moose-ification thing | 20:39 |
+danny_mk | OK, changes pushed to: https://github.com/dannymk/webgui/tree/selenium/selenium | 20:41 |
+danny_mk | hmmmm.... that does not look right | 20:42 |
@scrottie | 7 is in feature freeze. no new features, just bug fixes. that doesn't mean that things can't go on the Bazaar, but if I merge this in, it's merging into 8. | 20:42 |
+danny_mk | OK, I will package it for the bazaar | 20:42 |
+danny_mk | I should also create a local AlternateId branch | 20:43 |
+danny_mk | I updated my master branch with the OpenId stuff | 20:43 |
+danny_mk | scrottie: hopefully a quick question. How do I remove my OpenId/Oauth2 commits to my github master repo so that I can create a AlternateId branch with those changes? | 20:48 |
@scrottie | I think it should go into wG8, too. but I think the code will effectively have to be forked to do it. | 20:48 |
@scrottie | you're trying to put the oauth stuff into its own branch and take those commits out of master? | 20:49 |
+danny_mk | yes | 20:49 |
@scrottie | git checkout matser; git branch oath; ... | 20:50 |
@scrottie | er, git checkout master; git branch oath | 20:50 |
+danny_mk | done | 20:51 |
@scrottie | is there anything else in your master? I'd be tempted in that case to git reset --hard back to whatever HEAD is on the plainblack repo, after pulling from there | 20:51 |
@scrottie | but that'll orphan (hide) any and all changes made there, and you may not necessarily want them in the oauth branch | 20:51 |
+danny_mk | no nothing else | 20:51 |
+danny_mk | OK, let me see if I can do this | 20:53 |
@scrottie | well, do 'git log master' and cut and paste the topmost commit hash somewhere safe with a note about that being the HEAD of the master branch before scrottie made you blow it away | 20:53 |
+danny_mk | git branch... | 20:53 |
+danny_mk | * altid | 20:53 |
+danny_mk | master | 20:53 |
+danny_mk | selenium | 20:53 |
+danny_mk | those are my three local branches | 20:54 |
@scrottie | then...: git checkout master; git pull https://github.com/plainblack/webgui.git; git reset --hard 560e7228fce8eed107c81774eb264ddfec3000ba | 20:56 |
+danny_mk | done | 20:57 |
@scrottie | alright. then, in the future, you'll probably want to pull from the plainblack repo into the master branch. but you won't need to or want to git reset --hard. | 20:58 |
+danny_mk | OK, how do I update my github master branch with these changes? | 20:59 |
@scrottie | if git sees that the stuff that you're pulling is a continuation of what you already have, it automatically advances 'HEAD' so that you wind with all of those changes in the files in the repo. | 20:59 |
+danny_mk | I already pushed my selenium branch to github | 20:59 |
@scrottie | just git pull https://github.com/plainblack/webgui.git | 20:59 |
@scrottie | handling other branches has some options. if you pull into master like that, you can then merge those changes into other branches. or if the work in other branches doesn't go on too long and you're not worried about dealing with conflicts or don't want to deal with potential conflicts, you can simply never merge or rebase master into your other branches. | 21:00 |
@scrottie | just let them exist as a snapshot in time of WebGUI plus your local changes. | 21:00 |
@scrottie | but when you make a new branch off of master, you probably want to start with a recent snapshot of the plainblack repo, so it makes sense to git pull https://github.com/plainblack/webgui.git into master before you git fork | 21:01 |
+danny_mk | OK, but the only place I did a git fork was at: https://github.com/dannymk/webgui | 21:02 |
+danny_mk | on my pc I did a git clone https://github.com/dannymk/webgui | 21:03 |
+danny_mk | then git branch altid | 21:03 |
+danny_mk | git checkout altid | 21:03 |
+danny_mk | .... | 21:03 |
+danny_mk | git push origin altid | 21:03 |
+danny_mk | that updates my github fork... right? | 21:03 |
@scrottie | it should, yeah. | 21:04 |
@scrottie | "origin" almost certainly is https://github.com/dannymk/webgui | 21:04 |
+danny_mk | good | 21:04 |
@scrottie | I don't see an 'altid' branch in https://github.com/dannymk/webgui/branches | 21:05 |
+danny_mk | not yet, | 21:05 |
+danny_mk | hold on | 21:05 |
@scrottie | ah, okay | 21:05 |
@scrottie | I'm going to check the garden and run rent money downstairs | 21:06 |
@scrottie | back in a bit here | 21:06 |
+danny_mk | OK, altid branch is there now | 21:07 |
+danny_mk | what I need to do is get my master branch on github (https://github.com/dannymk/webgui) in sync with PB WebGUIs master branch | 21:08 |
@scrottie | git checkout master; git push --force origin master | 21:10 |
+danny_mk | excellent, thank you so much. I made notes, hopefully the last time I ask you that question. | 21:12 |
+danny_mk | most of the tests on my selenium branch test the admin functions | 21:13 |
+danny_mk | I am beginning work on the rest of the stuff, specifically the "New Content" functions | 21:14 |
+danny_mk | Shouldn't my master branch always stay in sync with PB WebGUI master branch? | 21:16 |
+danny_mk | I mean my master branch on github | 21:16 |
@scrottie | nope, a fork of a repo is a separate repo. you have to periodically pull from whatever "upstream" repo you want to stay in sync with. | 21:34 |
@scrottie | this can't exactly be completely automated because you might have conflicting changes that require a human to sort out | 21:35 |
@scrottie | it *could* be completely automated if you never worked in your master branch, only forked from it, but github doesn't make the assumption that that's the case. | 21:35 |
+danny_mk | yes, but there is no pull option in the github interface | 21:40 |
@scrottie | I'm kind of surprised that it doesn't (if it doesn't?) let you pull from upstream when it's a "fast forward" (no local changes, only new changes from upstream) | 21:43 |
@scrottie | but you can do as haarg suggested before and add a name for plainblack's webgui repo, so you could say 'pull pb' then 'push' to update | 21:44 |
+danny_mk | you mean a name in the configuration file? .git/config | 21:46 |
@scrottie | [remote "origin"] ... fetch = +refs/heads/*:refs/remotes/origin/* ... url = git@github.com:/plainblack/webgui | 21:47 |
@scrottie | those things. "remotes". | 21:47 |
haarg | git remote add plainblack https://github.com/plainblack/webgui && git fetch plainblack | 21:47 |
@scrottie | you could add that one but rename it from "origin" to "pb" | 21:47 |
@scrottie | there. or that. | 21:47 |
+danny_mk | thank you | 21:50 |
+danny_mk | Your branch is behind 'origin/master' by 2270 commits, and can be fast-forwarded. | 21:59 |
@scrottie | which branch? master? | 22:02 |
@scrottie | when you did the git pull and the git reset --hard, that should have made you 0 commits behind | 22:03 |
+danny_mk | I got it fixed | 22:03 |
@scrottie | a'right | 22:03 |
+danny_mk | wow, that was pretty scary but I think I finally got both my repos up to date | 22:18 |
@scrottie | if everything you care about is committed and you copy and paste the commit hash somewhere safe before you do anything to the branch, you should always be safe. | 22:23 |
@scrottie | you might do something where you need help to fix it afterwards, but the data will still be there ;) | 22:24 |
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+danny_mk | good, hate having to redo work | 22:25 |
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+danny_mk | later... | 22:50 |
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+patspam | watching Mark Shuttleworth's OSCON talk about juju | 19:15 |
+patspam | we should have a webgui juju charm | 19:16 |
@scrottie | hrm wha? | 19:16 |
+patspam | silly product names | 19:21 |
@scrottie | ah. | 19:22 |
@scrottie | I want to finish the installer script. install is way too complex and error prone. but it seems like as long as wG lacks relational integrity, that's never going to happen, because other things will continue to require an infinite amount of manual human labor, from me. | 19:36 |
@scrottie | one of the new guys wanted to foreign key constraint up everything | 19:37 |
@scrottie | oh, my. it's only Thursday. I woke up thinking it was Friday. | 19:39 |
CIA-69 | webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.10 * rca2c063 / (6 files in 6 dirs): Fix gateway issues in several modules, including auth for password recovery. Fixes bug #12375 - http://git.io/aykIeg | 19:39 |
sbaur | Hi everyone! Is there way to do a "calculation field" in a DataForm? Basically, I'm entering a start Date for something, and I need to be able to use just the Year part for a search and the whole date for display. And, I already have data in my DF so separating what I have into two fields is not a great option. | 20:50 |
@scrottie | I don't think DataForm has any feature like that, but where there's a non-intractable problem, there's a where. | 21:03 |
@scrottie | you could always add some JS to the template for the page that does that. | 21:03 |
@scrottie | "do it in the UI" seems to be the popular solutions these days. | 21:03 |
@scrottie | ... as I've been painfully experiencing over the past couple of weeks... | 21:03 |
@scrottie | while you're at it, return some complex, inconsistent JSON structures and stuff them right into a database field. | 21:04 |
sbaur | DF, isn't that already complex, inconsistent JSON structures? | 21:04 |
* sbaur is still not happy that DF moved to JSON for data storage | 21:05 | |
sbaur | it makes manipulating the data so much more difficult | 21:05 |
sbaur | I guess do it in the UI m21:26 <@scrottie> I miss the days when I could drop preaction into a homicidal rage with just three letters. | 21:07 |
sbaur | hehe | 21:26 |
@scrottie | there are a lot of bugs in the export logic. | 21:26 |
sbaur | I miss the days when preaction would hang out here | 21:26 |
* scrottie nods at sbaur | 21:26 | |
sbaur | and perlDreamer for that matter | 21:28 |
@scrottie | yeah. it makes it hard to talk about wG design on here. I can say whatever I want, but no consensus or plans can be formed here. | 21:29 |
@scrottie | without him. | 21:30 |
* sbaur hates deploying Java apps | 21:33 | |
sbaur | in Jave, it's apparently impossible to write a sensible/concise/useful error message | 21:37 |
@scrottie | heh | 21:38 |
sbaur | Ok, I'm done griping about that, at least here :D | 21:39 |
@scrottie | there's so much pedantry in Java designed to avoid ever having an error and yet still so many errors, I think programmers feel like they've lost a battle or experience some sort of congnative dissonse | 21:39 |
@scrottie | heh | 21:39 |
@scrottie | dissonance | 21:40 |
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SynQ | hi there :) | 02:03 |
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sbaur | hi SynQ | 02:04 |
+SynQ | hi | 02:05 |
+SynQ | any scrottie around? | 02:05 |
+SynQ | seen any activity from him lately? | 02:06 |
sbaur | he was around a few hours ago | 02:06 |
+SynQ | ok | 02:07 |
+SynQ | I'll go and walk the dog and see if he's around when I get back | 02:07 |
sbaur | you might want to ask your question before you go | 02:07 |
+SynQ | ah | 02:08 |
sbaur | since he's still signed in, he might read it and be able to leave a reply even he has to leave before you are back | 02:08 |
+SynQ | my question is 'can we roll out that update now' :) | 02:08 |
sbaur | :) | 02:08 |
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+SynQ | :) | 02:42 |
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+danny_mk | scrottie: Hi, I found a way to test the frame stuff. I will be re-writting some of the "committed" tests. I will let you know when they are done. | 17:12 |
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@scrottie | good morning! heya danny_mk | 19:59 |
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CIA-69 | webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.10 * r7c03fc7 / sbin/findBrokenAssets.pl : Allow a single asset to be passed into findBrokenAssets via --assetId - http://git.io/hgYQOw | 20:49 |
CIA-69 | webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.10 * rc120a8b / sbin/findBrokenAssets.pl : Only transfer data that's being used, to reduce loading and speed things up. - http://git.io/1q-zvw | 20:55 |
+danny_mk | Hi scrottie | 20:58 |
sbaur | Happy Friday everyone! | 21:07 |
sbaur | I am still trying to figure out my auto enter some stuff into a form field problem | 21:07 |
sbaur | I have a simple little javascript that does not seem to do anything, though the intertubes tell me it should. Full page source is at http://pastebin.com/2aRYbUNX and the field I'm trying to manipulate is course_year_formId | 21:09 |
sbaur | this is a DataForm in 7.6.35, and I'm just not getting something really basic. | 21:10 |
@scrottie | happpy Fridayy. | 21:12 |
* scrottie drools a bit | 21:12 | |
sbaur | The posted bit has two different copies of the script. which was a goof on my part. But removing one, does not make any difference | 21:12 |
@scrottie | document.getElementById('course_year_formId').value = '1000'; ... that bit? | 21:13 |
sbaur | that's the bit | 21:13 |
@scrottie | a likely problem is that 'course_year_formId' hasn't been parsed yet | 21:14 |
sbaur | so with webgui, it's not possible to use JS to manipulate a form? | 21:14 |
@scrottie | people do this document onLoad stuff to make sure to wait until everything is loaded before starting to minipulate the DOM to deal with that | 21:14 |
@scrottie | hmm? | 21:14 |
sbaur | oh | 21:15 |
@scrottie | WebGUI spits out HTML, JS, images, and all the usual stuff. | 21:15 |
@scrottie | there's nothing special about wG that makes it more or less possible. | 21:15 |
sbaur | so maybe that's the really basic bit that I'm missing | 21:15 |
@scrottie | if you install the Firebug plugin, it'll alert you to errors, and show you where in the JS they happened, when JS errors | 21:15 |
ckotil | chrome inspector will do that too | 21:15 |
sbaur | i had it then took it out due to memory leaks... | 21:15 |
@scrottie | if "document.getElementById('course_year_formId')" came up null, then it tried to do ".value = '1000'" on that null, that would throw an error | 21:16 |
@scrottie | yeah, I run two browers, a "lite" and a heavy. the heavy has Flash, Firebug, etc. the lite has NoScript with default deny ;) | 21:16 |
ckotil | not a bad idea | 21:16 |
@scrottie | Firefox still burns crazy amounts of CPU just sitting there showing a couple dozen static pages with no JS enabled anywhere. | 21:17 |
@scrottie | stupid thing. | 21:17 |
ckotil | i only run it to debug and cross browser compatibility | 21:18 |
sbaur | 15 is suposed to be way better about memory issues | 21:18 |
sbaur | we'll see | 21:18 |
ckotil | lol | 21:18 |
ckotil | another reason why i jumped ship | 21:18 |
ckotil | updates every week | 21:18 |
@scrottie | memory/CPU waste seems to ebb and flow in FF. this "balance" has been maintained fo ryears. | 21:18 |
@scrottie | I turned the update notifications off. | 21:18 |
@scrottie | If I didn't loathe Google, I'd probably run Chrome. | 21:19 |
@scrottie | I despite the "smart bar". FF, as bad as it sucks, lets you turn things off. I despite autocomplete. It's so much faster if I can just type what I want rather than the thing bogging down loading suggestions that not only don't apply but actively insult me. And I don't want every stupid keystroke I type being sent to Google anyway. | 21:19 |
ckotil | aww, they're too pervasive to hate | 21:20 |
sbaur | so yes, I'm getting the is null error | 21:20 |
@scrottie | I'm doing it anyway. I'm crazy like that. | 21:20 |
@scrottie | sbaur, don't know if you have jquery on that page. if you're doing UI stuff like that, it's probably easist to load it. then the Internet should have about a billion examples of how to do onload events with that. I don't have the syntax committed to memory so I'd have to Google it myself. | 21:21 |
@scrottie | or you could do it straight HTML/DOM, too, if you didn't want to bring in jquery. | 21:21 |
sbaur | have heard of jquery, do not have it on this page | 21:22 |
haarg | i haven't had any performance issues with firefox for a long while, as long as firebug isn't enabled | 21:22 |
@scrottie | haarg, how often do you restart it? | 21:23 |
@scrottie | I find that eventually, it winds up at 100% CPU doing nothing if not restarted. | 21:23 |
sbaur | apparently, firebug, adblock plus and one other really popular were the worst for memory leaks, but many have been fixed with the newest versions | 21:23 |
haarg | on my laptop, every couple days i guess. never for performance reasons. | 21:23 |
@scrottie | which means that every so often, I notice that my laptop is warm and I'm inclined to restart it. this happens before I notice things are slow, usually. | 21:23 |
@scrottie | or if I'm on battery and I just don't want something hitting the CPU hard and draining my battery, I'll kill -stop it | 21:24 |
@scrottie | hrm. no adblock in the "lite" browser but the heavy one which has JS on uses it to block autocomplete on various things. | 21:24 |
@scrottie | it seems to be more a function of number of tabs. | 21:25 |
@scrottie | sbaur, http://www.w3schools.com/jsref/event_onload.asp ... w3schools is a popular reference (don't know if it's the best) for straight HTML5 stuff | 21:25 |
@scrottie | non-jquery | 21:26 |
haarg | w3schools is a pretty terrible resource | 21:26 |
@scrottie | haha | 21:26 |
haarg | i'd recommend mdc for most things | 21:26 |
@scrottie | I suspected. | 21:26 |
sbaur | ok, i'll check that out, currently I'm using stack overflow | 21:26 |
haarg | they even have good browser compat information about a lot of things | 21:26 |
sbaur | Success! | 21:28 |
@scrottie | yay! | 21:28 |
sbaur | Had to do it like this | 21:28 |
sbaur | window.onload = function() { | 21:28 |
sbaur | document.getElementById('date').onchange = validateDate; | 21:28 |
sbaur | }; | 21:28 |
haarg | onload triggers after everything on the page loads, including images etc | 21:29 |
haarg | for things like that you usually want an ondomready type thing, but that's not as simple to use. you'd want to use a framework for it. | 21:29 |
sbaur | I think this is simple enough that onload may be good enough | 21:30 |
sbaur | at least for this proof of concept bit | 21:31 |
@scrottie | hrm. one of these long weekends, I should try to translate mosaic to Haskell. | 21:32 |
sbaur | so, just to check my understanding, once the page is loaded, template variables are available for use? | 21:32 |
@scrottie | template variables really only exist on the server. | 21:32 |
@scrottie | you can do things like this: var foo = "[% template_variable %]"; | 21:33 |
@scrottie | and then if template_variable doesn't have any characters in it that would let it bust out of "" quoting, it'll wind up in foo | 21:33 |
sbaur | cool, that's pretty much what I'm going to have to do | 21:33 |
@scrottie | er, do that in the template on the server side. | 21:33 |
sbaur | basically, I have a user entered date, that I need to grab the year out of | 21:34 |
@scrottie | preaction has a branch of wG that lets you fetch all of the template vars as JSON. that's easier and saner. I need to finish that. | 21:34 |
@scrottie | there is JS date handling stuff... | 21:34 |
@scrottie | and JS regex stuff. | 21:34 |
ckotil | Id like that too | 21:36 |
sbaur | well, I have a good place to start from now, thanks for your help | 21:37 |
@scrottie | sbaur, you're welcome. have fun! | 21:37 |
haarg | there's also a json plugin for template toolkit and ways to do similar things in HTML::Template | 21:51 |
haarg | so you can do var foo = [% tmpl_var.json %]; | 21:51 |
haarg | and have it work safely | 21:51 |
sbaur | I used that JSON plugin somewhere once... | 21:51 |
haarg | actually you'd probably need tmpl_var.json | html | 21:52 |
sbaur | it worked pretty well as I recall | 21:52 |
@scrottie | sweet! | 21:53 |
* sbaur heads off to lunch | 21:53 | |
haarg | for one client i made a plugin for HTML::Template::Expr to do things with json decoding. and it was terrible. but not as terrible as thing thing i made initially. | 21:56 |
@scrottie | I've got this Acme::RPC module. I bet it's more terrible ;) | 21:59 |
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+SynQ | when fed up with firefox hangs and crashes: try the pale moon browser | 18:11 |
+SynQ | it rocks! | 18:12 |
+SynQ | it's basically a polished firefox | 18:12 |
+SynQ | and there is a 64 bit windows version available | 18:12 |
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@scrottie | there's a "Pentium 4 Celeron" in the corner running Windows I VNC into sometimes. | 22:20 |
@scrottie | I don't think it's 64 bit though ;) | 22:20 |
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@scrottie | heya Bart | 20:46 |
BartJol1 | heya | 20:48 |
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@scrottie | mornin', delikat | 21:05 |
@daviddelikat | hey scrottie | 21:05 |
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@scrottie | danny_mk! | 22:27 |
@scrottie | one of these days, I'm going to finish the installer and merge your stuff again. | 22:27 |
+danny_mk | OK | 22:35 |
+danny_mk | I am working on "New Content" tests today | 22:35 |
+danny_mk | Most of the admin function tests are done | 22:35 |
+danny_mk | https://github.com/dannymk/webgui/tree/selenium | 22:37 |
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+danny_mk | scrottie: OK, I have written a few tests here for some of the basic items like page/article/calendar (just adding them and verifying that adding them worked), I am going to need some feedback on these before I move too far | 00:21 |
+danny_mk | sbar1: would you be able to run a few of these tests to see if they are good enough? | 00:22 |
+danny_mk | sbaur1: | 00:23 |
sbaur1 | Hi Danny_mk, not today. I had major hardware problems yesterday and am still recovering from them | 00:26 |
sbaur1 | but next week, sure (I'm gone thursday and friday this week) | 00:26 |
+danny_mk | sbaur1: no, I mean sometime in the near future, just want to make sure I am going down the right path here | 00:26 |
+danny_mk | https://github.com/dannymk/webgui/tree/selenium/selenium | 00:27 |
sbaur1 | sure, I'll check it out when I have some time | 00:27 |
+danny_mk | excellent, thank you | 00:27 |
+danny_mk | I will check in with you next week Wenesday-Thursday | 00:28 |
sbaur1 | ok | 00:28 |
+danny_mk | Thank you, I am out of here... | 00:28 |
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@scrottie | sbaur1, you wouldn't be going to DEFCON now would you? | 00:36 |
sbaur1 | nope, Cavalia | 00:36 |
@scrottie | haven't heard of it. | 00:36 |
sbaur1 | http://www.cavalia.net/en/cavalia-show/tickets-info/san-jose-ca-usa | 00:36 |
@scrottie | interesting. Cirque de Sol gone equine? | 00:37 |
sbaur1 | exactly | 00:37 |
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CIA-69 | webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.10 * r79c8434 / lib/WebGUI/Asset/Story.pm : Fix the unlikely case of empty photo data in a Story asset when purging. - http://git.io/fJGdfg | 01:12 |
CIA-69 | webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.10 * r263b581 / lib/WebGUI/Account/Inbox.pm : Handle the case of not being able to instanciate messages when deleting a whole list of them. - http://git.io/rDQUOQ | 02:00 |
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@scrottie | FrIdAy!!! | 20:27 |
@scrottie | I completely butchered Monday, Tuesday, Weds, and Thursday, but I'm going to get today right. | 20:28 |
@scrottie | Sunday went pretty well though. | 20:44 |
@scrottie | on second thought, it looks like I could spend the entire day just going through open URLs and closing stuff I've finished with. | 21:22 |
@scrottie | what a week. | 21:22 |
@scrottie | I'd just like to say, redmine is the worst bug tracker I've ever had the displeasure to use. I used to hate RT. RT is just bloated, slow, and clunky. redmine is just bad. | 21:27 |
@scrottie | broken. | 21:27 |
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+danny_mk | hmmm.... I use RT, what do you recommend? | 22:09 |
@scrottie | haha | 22:14 |
@scrottie | whatever you personally don't hate | 22:14 |
@scrottie | I'm just venting | 22:14 |
@scrottie | I've never found a bug tracker that I actually like. aside from cutting off titles, the WebGUI one doesn't bother me too much at least. it's simple at least. | 22:15 |
@scrottie | but I have to wonder about people who are really enthusaistic about their bug tracker. | 22:15 |
@scrottie | Mantis, that Procolix uses, isn't bad. | 22:15 |
+danny_mk | the webgui one is good enough | 22:55 |
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seeker61 | when i start typing in a cell of datagridview after second stroke it erases data entered and starts over | 18:49 |
seeker61 | new to this how best to post a question | 18:55 |
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seeker61 | haarg: how is best to ask a question on here | 19:08 |
seeker61 | when i start typing in a cell in my datagridview the text is erased after second key stroke | 19:09 |
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haarg | welp | 20:29 |
CIA-69 | wrebuild: Colin Kuskie master * r3388ff7 / Task-WebGUI/dist.ini : Add back in modules needed for WebGUI 7 - http://git.io/6uzoCg | 20:57 |
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* scrottie shrugs | 22:13 | |
@scrottie | maybe I should make a bot that detects this scenario, where someone new connects, talks, and doesn't get a reply in a certain amount of time. | 22:14 |
@scrottie | then plays Hangman with them to keep them occupied until someone unidles ;) | 22:14 |
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sbaur | I saw his message, but have no clue what a datagridview is, so waited for someone more knowledgeable to come along | 23:31 |
@scrottie | no idea either. sounds like JS though. | 23:36 |
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haarg | i was going to suggest trying a different browser but i wouldn't know aside from that | 00:06 |
haarg | i'm assuming he just picked a name at random | 00:06 |
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CIA-69 | webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.10 * rc0d0418 / docs/create.sql : Preparing for 7.10.25 release - http://git.io/9XocNA | 04:47 |
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