--- Log opened Tue Sep 01 00:00:30 2009 00:09 -!- preaction [n=doug@205.213.24.81] has quit ["This computer has gone to sleep"] 00:14 -!- preaction [n=doug@205.213.24.81] has joined #webgui 00:18 < preaction> and it seems like you can't insert a completely blank line. because this thing is stupid and everything's stupid 00:19 <+perlDreamer> the only way to insert a "blank" line is to insert a line with some kind of whitespace in it? 00:20 < preaction> correct 00:20 < preaction> a single space seems to work 00:20 < preaction> and this is still only in IE 00:20 < preaction> i imagine this is a surmountable problem, but i don't have time to surmount it right now 00:23 -!- BartJol1 [n=bart@49-167.surfsnel.dsl.internl.net] has left #webgui [] 00:31 <+perlDreamer> preaction: is this the DavGlass thing, or something built on top of YUI Editor? 00:31 < preaction> the davglass thing is built on-top of the YUI Editor 00:31 < preaction> it's the Dav Glass thing, but fixed 00:32 < preaction> at least, now that i'm starting to understand some of it 00:35 -!- preaction [n=doug@205.213.24.81] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 00:36 -!- preaction [n=doug@205.213.24.81] has joined #webgui 00:41 -!- stDavid [n=stDavid@static-72-64-138-146.tampfl.fios.verizon.net] has quit ["zzzzzzzzzz"] 00:42 < CIA-53> webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r6d393fe / t/Shop/PayDriver/Ogone.t : Make Ogone.t test for its own name. - http://bit.ly/UU7GP 00:45 -!- danny_mk [n=chatzill@64-204-40-34.client.dsl.net] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.2/20090729225027]"] 00:47 -!- SquOnk [n=emhn@201.211.88.228] has joined #webgui 00:47 < SquOnk> Greetings. 00:47 < SquOnk> I've setup a Weblog. I want to disable the ability to Reply (Add?) to the posts. 00:48 < SquOnk> I did check 'no' in Security's "Allow Replies". 00:48 < SquOnk> As a Visitor, I can only read the post and the bottom bar only gives Previous and Next as expected. 00:49 < SquOnk> But if I use any registered user, the "Add" option shows up and I can add comments. What gives? 01:03 -!- carogray [n=Caroline@host2.209.113.248.conversent.net] has quit ["Leaving."] 01:04 -!- preaction [n=doug@205.213.24.81] has quit ["This computer has gone to sleep"] 01:13 < SquOnk> Ah, figured it out. 01:27 -!- carogray [n=Caroline@host2.209.113.248.conversent.net] has joined #webgui 01:32 -!- mducharme [n=nothing@24.77.198.77] has joined #webgui 01:35 -!- topsub [n=topsub@69.132.179.250] has joined #webgui 01:38 -!- topsub [n=topsub@69.132.179.250] has left #webgui [] 01:41 -!- stDavid [n=stDavid@216-199-225-46.tpa.fdn.com] has joined #webgui 01:44 < SquOnk> carogray: Your CSS adventure had a happy ending? 01:45 < carogray> oh god no! 01:45 < SquOnk> Bummer 01:45 < carogray> just moved the DNS committed the version tag and ayah - it looks AWFUL seems to have been a previous version! 01:45 < SquOnk> carogray: Where is it? 01:45 < carogray> So hopefully not too many people will be looking at it tonight and I will be able to do some reconstructive work tonight 01:46 < carogray> http://www.mwlegal.org 01:46 < carogray> everything is broken and .... 01:46 < SquOnk> carogray: What's b0rken? 01:46 < carogray> well I had a flash movie working right and now it doesn't show up. 01:47 < carogray> I cant get the Metrowest legal Services in the footer to be in Century Schoolbook, the side menus are all wonky and .... 01:47 < SquOnk> Where was it supposed to show? 01:48 < carogray> http://test16.mlri.org/donate.html 01:49 < carogray> or perhaps mwlegal.org/donate.html 01:49 < carogray> hadn't really finished 01:49 < carogray> .... have to get last files together and pack up by 7:10 tonight so I can make the bus and work at home tonight... 01:49 < SquOnk> carogray: "OOPS! You forgot to upload swfobject.js! You must upload this file for your gallery to work." 01:49 < carogray> Iknow 01:50 < carogray> I already had fixed this... then I committed the version tag and somehow it undid it! 01:50 < carogray> I remember it is actually a name not matching somewhere. I have to go through it all again. 01:50 < carogray> you know like a jpg instead of a gif or ... a capital letter somewhere and lowercase somewhere else... 01:52 < SquOnk> carogray: I think you used /swfobject.js but it lives in /extras/ukplayer/swfobject.js 01:54 <+perlDreamer> ^Extras(ukplayer/swfobject.js); 01:54 < carogray> I will look, thanks for helping out. I get connected on the bus so I am hoping to work on it then but I have to get the files that were updated only about 4 1st and then perhaps if you are still around.. I am not too worried about the Flash since I did fix it before, but not being able to get the Century Schoolbook on the Metrowest Legal Services in the footer is driving me nuts... I can't figure out what I am doing wrong. 01:55 < carogray> thanks so much you guys... I am keeping the log and will check back in when I am on the bus. It's about 1 hr 45 minutes and I get internet signal for most of the trip. 01:56 < SquOnk> carogray: id="LegalCredits" 01:56 < SquOnk> carogray: But LegalCredits has Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif in the CSS 01:57 < carogray> nope wrong page 01:57 < SquOnk> carogray: That's the main page. 01:57 < carogray> it's on an inner page that's the home page you are looking at 01:57 < carogray> I mean that's the home page 01:58 < carogray> At the bottom of http://test16.mlri.org/donate.html footer is in the pageFooterContainer and it is h4 01:59 < carogray> defined css for it above h4#MWLegal { font-family:"Century Schoolbook", Georgia, serif; font-color: #036; } 01:59 < carogray> found the files I need and copied them to my little card so I have a few minutes 02:01 < SquOnk> carogray: Well, I don't have Century Schoolbok. I have Century Schoolbook L 02:02 < CIA-53> webgui: Colin Kuskie master * rbaadf9c / docs/upgrades/upgrade_7.7.18-7.7.19.pl : Fix lots of typos. - http://bit.ly/16OL0Q 02:02 < carogray> Still it should show as Georgia or a serif font and be the right colour? 02:03 < carogray> SquOnk: is there a quick way to put your name in when I reply to you, or do you just type it in? 02:03 < SquOnk> carogray: I type "car" and the hit TAB. 02:03 < SquOnk> carogray: So try typing "sq" and then hit TAB. 02:04 -!- stDavid [n=stDavid@216-199-225-46.tpa.fdn.com] has quit ["zzzzzzzzzz"] 02:04 < SquOnk> carogray: I believe you're missing a comma between a:active and a:visited in the CSS fragment above the "problematic" one. A thing with CSS is that a syntax error makes the rest of the file is ignored. 02:04 < carogray> SquOnk: ooh yeah great... 02:05 < carogray> like I said yesterday I am not a detail person and I need to get ways to look at things afresh... thanks for that 02:07 < SquOnk> carogray: If you use Firefox, there's a plugin that let's you find out the CSS for each block. If it says "no CSS info" it means something is b0rken in the CSS... that's what led me to believe you had a syntax error in you CSS. 02:07 < carogray> aha would that be firebug? 02:07 < carogray> that would explain a lot when it says there is no style defined for body when I have definitely defined styles for body 02:08 < SquOnk> carogray: I use webdeveloper 02:09 < carogray> I think I might have used to have had that, will try it again...get it from mozilla plugins? 02:09 < SquOnk> carogray: Yes. 02:10 < SquOnk> carogray: I see you embed CSS with the HTML. That's not good or bad, but that's not the way I work. I tend to have CSS snippets separate from HTML and use some sort of CSS editor/validator before uploading, that way I now it's not b0rken. 02:11 < carogray> I am just doing it temporarily -like eventually will put it in it's own snippet and call it after combining it with home page css 02:12 < carogray> haven't found a way to be sure it works in WG without putting it in directly and can change it quicker if on same template than if somewhere else 02:12 < carogray> SquOnk: eek! 02:12 < carogray> gotta run will be on bus in about 10-15 mins 02:12 < carogray> talk to you then? 02:12 < SquOnk> carogray: I'll be leaving for home soon too. 02:13 < SquOnk> carogray: I'll get online later though. 02:13 < carogray> thanks 02:13 < carogray> bye 02:13 -!- carogray [n=Caroline@host2.209.113.248.conversent.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 02:15 <+perlDreamer> in 7.8, we can finally get rid of errorHandler! 02:15 <@Haarg> we can? 02:16 <+perlDreamer> sure, it was marked as deprecated 02:16 <+perlDreamer> there will only be log 02:16 <+perlDreamer> nice, short, simple "log" 02:16 <@Haarg> hrm 02:16 <@Haarg> that's a pretty large api change 02:17 <+perlDreamer> well, we can leave the original there for historical purposes 02:17 <+perlDreamer> backwards compatibility and all, but there's no reason to use errorHandler in the core anymore 02:18 <@Haarg> session->log->fatal is pretty weird, but aside from that i'd agree 02:19 <+perlDreamer> maybe we need a WebGUI::Compatibility module 02:19 <+perlDreamer> which could handle API naming changes and other simple thing 02:19 <+perlDreamer> *WebGUI::Session::errorHandler = *WebGUI::Session::log 02:20 <+perlDreamer> put it into modules.exclude by default 02:20 <+perlDreamer> and if people want to use it, they can uncomment it 02:25 <+perlDreamer> Haarg: did you have a chance to look in the database at the character set for the addresses that are having problems with ITransact? 02:26 <@Haarg> no 02:28 <@Haarg> the character set is going to be utf8 in the database though 02:28 -!- carogray [n=Caroline@72-60-38-200.pools.spcsdns.net] has joined #webgui 02:29 <+perlDreamer> seems odd to me that someone from Wisconsin would be using a character set that wouldn't downgrade safely to latin-1 02:31 -!- SquOnk [n=emhn@201.211.88.228] has quit ["Yippie kay-ai-yay, fudder muckers!"] 02:33 -!- mducharme [n=nothing@24.77.198.77] has quit [Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)] 02:34 -!- stDavid [n=stDavid@72.64.138.146] has joined #webgui 02:52 < carogray> am I still here.. 02:52 < carogray> yep 02:52 < carogray> sorry just checking 02:52 <+perlDreamer> we hear you carogray 02:53 < carogray> I was checking out something about how pidgin works in a web browser and it told me that if I closed the window I would lose all my IRC connections 02:54 < carogray> just wanted to make sure I didn't disconnect from WebGUI chat room and then reconnect, got in trouble for that last week:-/ 02:55 <+perlDreamer> trouble? from whom? 02:55 < carogray> preaction 02:55 <+perlDreamer> I wouldn't sweat it. Accidents happen. 02:55 < carogray> perhaps he wasn't pissed off, you know how texting can come across a little more abruptly than in person 02:56 < carogray> I am just trying to be super careful now 02:56 < carogray> I have all this work to do now, but I have to ask are you going to be at the WUC next week perlDreamer? 02:57 <@Haarg> he wasn't angry, but you somehow had 6 clients connecting and disconnecting 02:57 <@Haarg> so it was spamming the channel pretty bad 02:57 <+perlDreamer> I will be at the WUC. In real life, I'm known as Colin Kuskie 02:57 < carogray> I had 6? how could that happen was it different machines? 02:57 < carogray> Oh ho. 02:57 <@Haarg> same machine 02:58 <@Haarg> i wouldn't worry about it though 02:58 < carogray> I know what happened at my end but I didn't realize there were 6 of me though! I was connected or trying to be connected through my friend's neighbor's wireless connection and it was driving me crazy didn't realize it was creating many of me.. until I was banned 02:59 < carogray> when he woke up I connected to his connection and then I stayed connected consistently, just didn't want to risk it again for the rest of the trip 03:00 -!- cap10morgan [n=cap10mor@h19-afsc.ded.indra.com] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 03:00 < carogray> So I am finally going to make it to the WUC this year pretty excited - we had been saving desperately last year and then had some money left over so I asked if I could spend it last minute - the day before the fiscal year ended on the WUC! So I am coming. Yay. 03:00 <+perlDreamer> cool! 03:02 < carogray> I will be way out of my element but it will be fun to meet you guys. anyone want anything from Boston or New Hampshire? 03:02 < carogray> I can even bring "happy pork" if you are not a vegetarian 03:08 <+perlDreamer> what is 'happy pork'? 03:08 -!- preaction [n=doug@static-72-1-4-143.ntd.net] has joined #webgui 03:09 * perlDreamer is going to take a break and play with the young ones. bbiaw 03:15 -!- SquOnk [n=emhn@190.201.100.194] has joined #webgui 03:15 < SquOnk> re 03:17 < carogray> perlDreamer: for when you get back "happy pork" is what we call our pigs when we eat them! Although they are fenced in the 'gambol' around in the woods eating acorns and poison ivy and lots of dunkin donuts and they have a grand time...eventually they go to freezer camp and we eat them and then sometimes they eat each other - perhaps too much information, but the meat is good and they are not living like the animals whose meat you buy fr 03:19 < carogray> SquOnk: just checking back looks like I have many errors - trying the w3c validators... tell me when you have an 'a' in an id is it supposed to be a#menu? or #menu a { ? not sure if my css is wrong - the way I have defined it or the way I am actually using it in the html... still figuring it all out 03:20 < carogray> fixed the comma you told me about still wrong, but now I am on to checking other errors 03:20 < SquOnk> carogray: a#menu works for 03:21 < SquOnk> carogray: #menu a works for inside anything id=menu 03:21 < SquOnk> carogray: They are two different things. 03:21 < SquOnk> carogray: Most of the time what you want is div#menu a, meaning "any found inside _the_