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Ask and wait patiently (it might take awhile) 12:34 < maxscience> lol 12:34 < hawkaloogie> everyone comes in here and asks and then leaves before i get back to my compy 12:34 < hawkaloogie> when i say "a while" i mean "hours" 12:34 < maxscience> yeah I know lol 12:34 < hawkaloogie> it'd be better if people from different timezones frequented here 12:34 < maxscience> indeed 12:35 < hawkaloogie> it'd be REALLY BETTER if the salaried employees of plainblack corp at least idled here 12:35 < maxscience> indeed 12:35 < hawkaloogie> but that takes a certain level of nerd-life that i assume they've left behind ;-) 12:35 < maxscience> :D 12:35 < hawkaloogie> (those lucky barstads) 12:36 < maxscience> you know this? https://www.plainblack.com/development/portfolio/web_application_development_portfolio/vacation-calendar2 12:37 < hawkaloogie> looks sweet 12:37 < hawkaloogie> looks hella sweet 12:37 < maxscience> wondering why they didn't include that in the public distro... 12:38 < maxscience> exclusive right in the contract? naah :D 12:38 < hawkaloogie> it can probably be mimicked. with my SQLReport changes you'll be able to download any SQLReport as a template or a CSV file 12:39 < hawkaloogie> (i believe that i can talk about core changes, just not about other stuff under the NDA, friggen NDAs...) 12:39 < maxscience> lol 12:40 < maxscience> I don't think NDAs are very useful here.. Given that the webgui community is small :D 12:40 < hawkaloogie> well, sometimes they have to give sample data, which could be a sampling of real data 12:40 < hawkaloogie> which is probably the only thing the NDA covers 12:41 < hawkaloogie> i tried to make the other addition as generic as possible, so someday it can be added as an Operation (a little Import thing that can import CSV data to the database) 12:41 < hawkaloogie> would make it easier for people to migrate to WebGUI 12:41 < maxscience> someday? :) 12:41 < maxscience> well you can already do that at a DB level... With the right MySQL GUI utility 12:42 < hawkaloogie> yeah, along with a host of other changes i'd like to see (one table for each asset type? why not some sort of configuration file inside the database?) 12:42 < hawkaloogie> true nuff 12:42 < hawkaloogie> just annoying, you have to have a terminal 12:43 < hawkaloogie> i won't even start on how i could try to make webgui less dependant on MySQL, Apache2, and mod_perl2 12:43 < hawkaloogie> SQLite would rule 12:44 < maxscience> I think there are other areas to put efforts on 12:44 < maxscience> mysql 5 is more powerful than sqlite 12:44 < hawkaloogie> better docs 12:44 < hawkaloogie> of course, but at a price 12:44 < maxscience> which one? 12:45 < hawkaloogie> eh, got me there. it's all personal preference really 12:46 < maxscience> :D 12:46 < hawkaloogie> like PostgreSQL (which i despise and others swear by) 12:47 < maxscience> you also fix bugs? 12:47 < hawkaloogie> i've tried to fix a few, fixed a few others that were included in 7.0.8 12:48 < maxscience> there are a couple of easy-to-fix template bugs... Can I show you? 12:49 < hawkaloogie> i don't have svn commit access, but i can post fixes to the Bugs forum 12:49 < maxscience> ah a thing first... Could you look please here http://www.plainblack.com/bugs/tracker/admin-profile-does-not-show 12:50 < hawkaloogie> yeah, looked through that one 12:50 < maxscience> didn't understand dwilson reply... 12:50 < hawkaloogie> couldn't figure out "why" it was intentional 12:50 < maxscience> ah so you didn't understand his reply too... :D 12:51 < maxscience> as a matter of fact, visitors can't see my profile even though it's public... 12:52 < hawkaloogie> here it is: line 277 of Operation/Profile.pm 12:52 < hawkaloogie> wait no 12:52 < hawkaloogie> 280: return $session->privilege->insufficient() if(!$session->user->isInGroup(2)); 12:53 < maxscience> and Group(2) is the Visitors group? 12:53 < hawkaloogie> no, the Registerd Users group 12:53 < hawkaloogie> group(1) would be visitors 12:53 < hawkaloogie> what it SHOULD be is a configuration value 12:54 < hawkaloogie> where is that config value anyway? 12:54 < maxscience> mmmmh... There isn't 12:54 < maxscience> but you agree it's a bug? 12:55 < maxscience> why visitors can't see my profile if I set it to be public! 12:55 < hawkaloogie> okay, i see, the line above it lets people who set their profile to public be seen 12:55 < hawkaloogie> a simple comment out of line 280 would probably fix it 12:56 < hawkaloogie> but it might be better if there was some sort of way to specify if visitors can view the profile 12:56 < maxscience> mmh could you reply to that page ? 12:59 < hawkaloogie> done 13:05 < hawkaloogie> http://www.plainblack.com/rfe/request-for-enhancement/view-and-edit-user-profile-is-not-templatable <- this would be niceness 13:05 < hawkaloogie> why is Profile an Operation and not an Asset? or could make a Profile Wobject 13:06 < maxscience> indeed 13:06 < hawkaloogie> the profile wobject could then do what you want (allow visitors to view) and what they want (templating) 13:06 < maxscience> yep 13:06 < hawkaloogie> and it could do so using the profile operation 13:07 < maxscience> maybe a python WebGUI would be better? :P 13:07 < hawkaloogie> wtf's wrong with Perl? 13:08 < hawkaloogie> "PBtmpl0000000000000052" <- edit that template to change how profiles are displayed, but not who can view them 13:08 < maxscience> dunno really 13:08 < maxscience> yeah 13:08 < maxscience> thx 13:09 < hawkaloogie> i'll refrain from starting a holy war 13:09 < maxscience> the fact is that I want a variable template.. I have two different site design 13:09 < hawkaloogie> so it'd be the asset 13:09 < maxscience> but with Perl 6 it could be great 13:09 < hawkaloogie> and this www_viewProfile is NOT conducive to making that happen easily 13:09 < hawkaloogie> i could refactor this operation, and build an asset that would call some of its methods 13:10 < maxscience> it would be very nice indeed 13:10 < maxscience> I also search for a european version of the weather asset 13:10 < maxscience> it's US-only right now 13:11 < hawkaloogie> can't help ya there, it probably aggregates from NOAA 13:11 < maxscience> yep it does 13:11 < maxscience> that's why 13:11 < hawkaloogie> there IS a global one for airports 13:12 < hawkaloogie> the WeatherPixie uses it iirc 13:12 < maxscience> WeatherPixie? 13:12 < hawkaloogie> http://weatherpixie.com/ 13:13 < Radix_> hey guys 13:13 < maxscience> ah yeah but I wanted a rebrandable one :) 13:13 < maxscience> hey 13:13 < Radix_> I'm surprised to see people actually saying stuff on this channel :) 13:13 < maxscience> lol 13:14 < Radix_> hawkaloogie, were you at the WUC? 13:14 < hawkaloogie> wait, looks like NOAA uses METAR, which means that non-US for the weather asset should be trivial 13:14 < hawkaloogie> Radix_, no. can't afford and didn't get hired in time 13:15 < maxscience> yeah the point is to add an option to the weather asset so it searches from another database/web service... A bit like the Stock asset 13:17 < Radix_> i'd appreciate that too 13:19 < hawkaloogie> right now it looks like WeatherData is parsing a specific HTML file, which is bad 13:20 < hawkaloogie> if it could be altered to use some other sort of data, like the apparent standard METAR, it could be applied to any METAR service 13:21 < maxscience> I'm looking in a Javascript widget code that does world weather 13:22 < hawkaloogie> http://metar.noaa.gov/table_master.jsp?sub_menu=no&show=guide.html&dir=./documents/&title=title_helpful <- METAR format. why wasn't this used in the first place? 13:22 < maxscience> it's still US-only 13:23 < hawkaloogie> no, that's the international standard 13:24 < hawkaloogie> and NOAA compiles the METAR internationally and provides downloads 13:24 < maxscience> so could you modify it? :) 13:27 < hawkaloogie> it seems feasible that I could modify WeatherData to use the METAR format. if I were ever commissioned to do so (as right now i'm working two full-time jobs, one at walmart and one for plainblack) 13:28 < maxscience> oh 13:28 < hawkaloogie> but let's see if i can't at least give someone else my current research on the subject 13:28 < maxscience> wow thx 13:38 < hawkaloogie> http://www.plainblack.com/rfe/request-for-enhancement/weatherdata-asset---convert-to-international-format <- karma it up to get it implemented ;-) 13:44 < maxscience> gave all the karma I had lol 13:51 < hawkaloogie> i'm going to try to get a couple hours sleep before frank calls about all the bugs I know are in my code :'( 13:51 < maxscience> frank dillon :D 13:52 < hawkaloogie> ah crap. i forgot one thing. I'm using my own CSV which isn't included with WebGUI 13:53 < hawkaloogie> Text::CSV sucks... a lot... 13:53 < maxscience> :D 13:55 < hawkaloogie> now sleep 13:55 * hawkaloogie & 13:55 < maxscience> k c ya later :) 14:09 -!- maxscience [n=maxscien@85-18-14-23.fastres.net] has quit ["Computer goes to sleep!"] 17:42 -!- MrHairgrease [n=martin@x032124.its-s.tudelft.nl] has joined #webgui 17:42 -!- mode/#webgui [+v MrHairgrease] by ChanServ 17:52 -!- maxscience [n=maxscien@85-18-14-23.fastres.net] has joined #webgui 17:53 < maxscience> yo 17:53 <+MrHairgrease> hey 17:54 < maxscience> could you fix some bugs? :) 17:54 <+MrHairgrease> of course i can 17:54 <+MrHairgrease> dunno if i have the time though 17:55 < maxscience> oh :( 17:55 <+MrHairgrease> there are a lot of bugs to fix 17:55 < maxscience> indeed 17:56 <+MrHairgrease> so what bugs are you refering to. 17:56 < maxscience> this one in particular http://www.plainblack.com/bugs/tracker/admin-profile-does-not-show 17:57 <+MrHairgrease> hmm 17:57 <+MrHairgrease> I think that is intended behaviour 17:57 <+MrHairgrease> the sho/hide option in profiles 17:57 < maxscience> nope... I'm chatting with Frank Dillon and he says it's a bug too 17:58 <+MrHairgrease> oh ok 17:58 <+MrHairgrease> i frank sis it 17:58 <+MrHairgrease> sais it 17:58 < maxscience> I said two times in that page that that options is already set to show/public 17:58 < maxscience> :) 17:58 <+MrHairgrease> sure enough 17:58 <+MrHairgrease> but... 17:59 <+MrHairgrease> I always thought that that option would only apply to logged in users and not to visitors 17:59 <+MrHairgrease> so 'make public' would actually mean 17:59 <+MrHairgrease> is viewable by registered users 17:59 < maxscience> mmh yeah but why then... The word public is PUBLIC... So Visitors should be able to see it 18:00 <+MrHairgrease> well 18:00 <+MrHairgrease> that's just a matter of interpretation 18:00 <+MrHairgrease> I agree though that it should be possible to show profiles to anyone 18:00 < maxscience> not really... If you just say "public", all of users should see it 18:00 <+MrHairgrease> whether they are logged in or not 18:00 <+MrHairgrease> well 18:01 < maxscience> Then rename that option to: show users to registred users. It will be more correct 18:01 < maxscience> show profile to registred users sorry :) 18:01 <+MrHairgrease> if I had a site only intended for people that registered 18:01 < maxscience> Yeah I know but it's not clear that way... 18:01 <+MrHairgrease> pls wait 18:04 <+MrHairgrease> ok 18:04 <+MrHairgrease> i'm back 18:04 < maxscience> ok :) 18:04 <+MrHairgrease> so let me explain 18:04 <+MrHairgrease> i have this site not open for visitors right 18:04 < maxscience> I understood 18:04 < maxscience> public = registred users 18:05 < maxscience> the point is that "public" is used in the wrong sense 18:05 <+MrHairgrease> in that case i want to give people the option whether or not to show their profile to other users 18:05 <+MrHairgrease> ok 18:05 <+MrHairgrease> i don't carte 18:05 <+MrHairgrease> care* 18:05 <+MrHairgrease> =) 18:05 < maxscience> lol but I do 18:05 <+MrHairgrease> if you wanna change it, go ahead 18:05 <+MrHairgrease> make it show profile to registered users =) 18:06 <+MrHairgrease> in stead 18:06 <+MrHairgrease> but you need the profile to be shown to visitors as well? 18:06 < maxscience> yep 18:06 <+MrHairgrease> hmm 18:06 <+MrHairgrease> well 18:07 <+MrHairgrease> i;m in a good mood today =) 18:07 <+MrHairgrease> so 18:07 <+MrHairgrease> this is what I think 18:07 < maxscience> :) 18:07 <+MrHairgrease> we add an extra option show profile to visitors 18:07 <+MrHairgrease> and rename the former 18:07 <+MrHairgrease> your task will be 18:08 <+MrHairgrease> to put that on the bug tracker 18:08 <+MrHairgrease> and get it approved by jt 18:08 <+MrHairgrease> (since it is a new feature) 18:08 <+MrHairgrease> If you succeed 18:08 < maxscience> bug tracker? You mean RFE? 18:08 <+MrHairgrease> I'll hack it into webgui 18:08 <+MrHairgrease> sure it is an rfe 18:08 <+MrHairgrease> but the 'bug' in your case is 18:09 < maxscience> well I don't think JT would approve that :) 18:09 <+MrHairgrease> In that case I cannot put it in 18:09 <+MrHairgrease> sorry 18:09 < maxscience> ok let's leave that behind :) Not a real priority anyway 18:09 <+MrHairgrease> ok 18:09 <+MrHairgrease> so put it on the rfe 18:10 < maxscience> can I point you two easy-to-fix bugs? 18:10 <+MrHairgrease> I'll fix the ambiguous label friday 18:10 <+MrHairgrease> sure why not 18:10 < maxscience> http://www.plainblack.com/bugs/tracker/poll-answers-and-percentage-not-displayed 18:10 <+MrHairgrease> But please take note that I only work one day a week 18:10 <+MrHairgrease> and I do have real assignments too =) 18:11 < maxscience> oh ok.. But you said you're in a good mood today so.. :) 18:11 <+MrHairgrease> sure 18:11 <+MrHairgrease> i finally got my drivers license 18:12 < maxscience> wow about time! :D 18:12 <+MrHairgrease> yeah i know 18:12 < maxscience> which car you got 18:12 <+MrHairgrease> no car 18:13 <+MrHairgrease> I only got my license 18:13 < maxscience> oh k 18:13 <+MrHairgrease> now I don't have money to own a car =) 18:13 <+MrHairgrease> the orony of life 18:13 <+MrHairgrease> irony* 18:13 <+MrHairgrease> don't need one though 18:13 < maxscience> oh k then 18:13 <+MrHairgrease> so i don't care that much 18:13 <+MrHairgrease> But what is the exact problem with the poll 18:14 <+MrHairgrease> the answers are not shown when using a graph? 18:14 < maxscience> not the answers.. The number of voters and percentage 18:14 <+MrHairgrease> oh 18:14 <+MrHairgrease> I can fix that 18:14 < maxscience> You see the Poll on http://www.plainblack.com/support 18:14 < maxscience> Yeah I guess it's a template issue 18:15 < maxscience> in that poll you see the percentage and number of votes for each answer and then Total Votes: 239 18:15 <+MrHairgrease> well that poll actually shows percentages 18:15 <+MrHairgrease> but if you have a pie 18:15 <+MrHairgrease> it prolly doesn't 18:15 < maxscience> I know. The point is that pies and 3d chart doesn't. Yep 18:15 <+MrHairgrease> that's what you mean right. 18:15 < maxscience> so this is a real bug finally? :) 18:15 <+MrHairgrease> it's not a template issue 18:16 <+MrHairgrease> prolly 18:16 < maxscience> ok :) 18:16 <+MrHairgrease> I'll check it out next friday 18:16 <+MrHairgrease> it's easy to fix anyway. 18:17 < maxscience> this is even more simple http://www.plainblack.com/bugs/tracker/events-calendar-error-in-big-template 18:18 <+MrHairgrease> it prolly is 18:18 <+MrHairgrease> i'll see it when i get to it 18:18 < maxscience> ok 18:18 <+MrHairgrease> you can probably fix the template bug yourself 18:19 <+MrHairgrease> just post the correct tempate in a replie to the bug 18:19 < maxscience> Yeah I know but then it wouldn't be commit to the official distro 18:19 <+MrHairgrease> and someone will get it in 18:19 < maxscience> oh k fine 18:19 < maxscience> last one :) http://www.plainblack.com/bugs/tracker/snippet-processing-as-template-doesnt-wor 18:19 <+MrHairgrease> just save work 18:19 <+MrHairgrease> =) 18:19 < maxscience> sorry wrong url http://www.plainblack.com/bugs/tracker/snippet-processing-as-template-doesnt-work 18:20 <+MrHairgrease> isVisitor is not passed to templates 18:20 <+MrHairgrease> only some session tmpl_vars 18:20 <+MrHairgrease> which I can't think of right now 18:20 < maxscience> but I took isVisitor from a template so I thought it would be fine :( 18:20 <+MrHairgrease> session.adminOn 18:21 <+MrHairgrease> what namespace? 18:21 < maxscience> let me check again 18:21 <+MrHairgrease> no every tmpl_var is available in each template 18:21 <+MrHairgrease> and snippets aren't templates at all 18:21 <+MrHairgrease> there are only very few tmpl_var that are passed to all templates 18:22 <+MrHairgrease> and hance also to the snippets 18:22 < maxscience> yeah I know but I thought that "processing as template" option would treat snippets as "all-around" templates 18:22 <+MrHairgrease> it probably does that 18:22 <+MrHairgrease> but what is an all-round template in your eyes? 18:23 < maxscience> well a template that is able to get all the tmpl vars working 18:23 <+MrHairgrease> it is impossible to have templates with 'all' tmplvars 18:23 <+MrHairgrease> 'all' template vars is a non-exeistent thing 18:24 <+MrHairgrease> how would you manage to get colaboration tmpl vars into some totally unrelated snippet? 18:24 <+MrHairgrease> that's just one example 18:24 < maxscience> yeah I understood :) 18:24 <+MrHairgrease> ok 18:24 <+MrHairgrease> so I'll close that bug then 18:24 <+MrHairgrease> ok? 18:24 < maxscience> but again, another thing to clarify in WebGUI 18:25 < maxscience> ok :) 18:25 <+MrHairgrease> coolio 18:25 <+MrHairgrease> se you later 18:25 < maxscience> it would be nice to have a list of available tmpl vars to be used in Snippets when "enable processing as template" is on 18:25 <+MrHairgrease> gotta go do soime shopping 18:25 <+MrHairgrease> well actually 18:25 < maxscience> oh ok c ya :) and thx for the help 18:25 <+MrHairgrease> drake said that the session templ_vars are deprecated 18:26 <+MrHairgrease> so they'll disappear soon probably 18:26 < maxscience> yeah... And he also said "hrmm".. :) So I guess it's something he's still checking 18:26 <+MrHairgrease> which might be why they are not dicumented 18:26 <+MrHairgrease> you know what 18:26 <+MrHairgrease> ask a question about it on the dev list 18:26 < maxscience> so you can leave that bug report open until we get some clarification from JT? 18:26 <+MrHairgrease> i'm kinda curious too =) 18:27 < maxscience> ok :) 18:27 <+MrHairgrease> yeah i can leave it open 18:27 <+MrHairgrease> but it is not a bug =) 18:27 <+MrHairgrease> anyways 18:27 < maxscience> fine :)) 18:27 <+MrHairgrease> see you 18:27 < maxscience> bye thx :) 18:27 -!- MrHairgrease is now known as MrAFKGrease 18:40 -!- maxscience [n=maxscien@85-18-14-23.fastres.net] has left #webgui [] 19:14 -!- Klaus_ [n=klaus_he@p57A586A1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #webgui 19:48 -!- maxscience [n=maxscien@85-18-14-23.fastres.net] has joined #webgui 19:48 < maxscience> hey 19:48 < maxscience> anyone willing to help me convert my 10 lines php script into a WebGUI macro? :) 20:36 -!- MrAFKGrease [n=martin@x032124.its-s.tudelft.nl] has left #webgui [] 20:51 -!- maxscience [n=maxscien@85-18-14-23.fastres.net] has quit ["Quitting!"] --- Day changed Wed Oct 04 2006 00:36 -!- Klaus_ [n=klaus_he@p57A586A1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [] 00:42 -!- dhelsten [n=helsten@206.173.246.250.ptr.us.xo.net] has joined #webgui 00:43 < dhelsten> Radix there? 00:51 < dhelsten> I'm working on my Anonymous Registration Page and would like to collect more information. 00:52 < dhelsten> I'm thinking that the best way to deal with it would be to customize it field by field. 01:18 < dhelsten> Is there a way to call individual profile fields in the template? 01:31 < dhelsten> How about the names of profile categories? The help files don't show these fields at all. 02:03 < dhelsten> Well it has been a while and I've tried several combinations of to no avail 02:03 < dhelsten> I have to assume that it isn't possible to access the data outside of the loop. 02:04 < dhelsten> I need to insert more descriptive text in between fields in the sign up page. Any ideas? 02:13 < Radix_> morning 02:14 < Radix_> you can definitely customise the signup form. I've not ever done it. We're kinda in the same boat really.. got different customers that we want to sign up, and we want different required fields for each - makes it awkward to say the least 02:15 < Radix_> I haven't tackled that problem yet though 02:19 < Radix_> I was going to look at the html::template::eval template engine myself - see if I could write some more flexible logic in there based on incoming url 02:20 < Radix_> sorry.. ::expr, not eval 02:20 < Radix_> its 7:20am here.. head still waking up :) 02:38 < dhelsten> I'm not a coder so I won't be much help there. If you get anything, post it to the RFE or forum. Thanks for your help in getting me set up. I would have given up on WebGUI several weeks ago if it wasn't from some of your helpful posts. 02:38 < xdanger> it 02:37am here and I'm just leaving from work to go to sleep at home =D 02:38 < xdanger> damn deadlines =P 02:54 < dhelsten> sleep tight 02:54 -!- dhelsten [n=helsten@206.173.246.250.ptr.us.xo.net] has left #webgui [] 03:45 -!- davidcl [n=davidcl@static-67-62-180-106.t1.cavtel.net] has joined #webgui 03:57 < davidcl> I'm wondering if anyone on IRC can help me with my WebGUI upgrade troubles. 03:57 < davidcl> Described here: http://www.plainblack.com/install/upgrade_help/upgrading-from-5.5.8 03:58 < davidcl> Really right now I'm just trying to get the site working under 6.2.11-- I've reason to believe things will go pretty smoothly after that. 03:59 < davidcl> The 6.2.11 site is here on my testing server: http://deliver.klatha.com/ 04:03 -!- Radix-wrk [n=Radix@203.161.68.67] has joined #webgui 04:14 -!- Radix-wrk [n=Radix@203.161.68.67] has quit ["makes like a lemming and explodes!"] 05:40 -!- crythias [n=Gerald@c-68-51-234-189.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #webgui 05:40 -!- mode/#webgui [+v crythias] by ChanServ 05:45 -!- crythias [n=Gerald@c-68-51-234-189.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has left #webgui [] 06:35 -!- Radix-wrk [n=Jesse@203.161.68.67] has joined #webgui 08:17 -!- crythias [n=Gerald@c-68-51-234-189.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #webgui 08:17 -!- mode/#webgui [+v crythias] by ChanServ 08:38 -!- crythias [n=Gerald@c-68-51-234-189.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 09:56 -!- crythias [n=Gerald@c-68-51-234-189.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #webgui 09:56 -!- mode/#webgui [+v crythias] by ChanServ 10:26 -!- crythias [n=Gerald@c-68-51-234-189.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 12:32 -!- Radix-Work [n=Radix@203.161.68.67] has joined #webgui 12:32 -!- Radix-wrk [n=Jesse@203.161.68.67] has quit ["Windows doesn't have users. It has hostages."] 12:34 -!- Radix-Work [n=Radix@203.161.68.67] has quit [Client Quit] 14:00 < Radix_> davidcl: more than likely one of your styles is out of date.. I seem to recall having to redo my styles for 6.2.11 also 14:02 < Radix_> what you may want to do is keep upgrading to 6.8.11 and then 7.0, then do an edit branch and set your whole site to use a default webgui style. Once you've done that you can then work on the task of migrating your styles using theirs as an example. 14:03 < Radix_> styles have undergone a bit of a change in the upgrade from 5.8.8 (I did the same thing), but they're not hard to fix 14:06 < Radix_> I'm not familiar with 6.2.11 myself (jumped straight to 6.8.x when I did the upgrade), but try: ?func=manageAssets and see if that produces anything 14:07 < Radix_> if not, try ?op=editSettings and see if you can set the Admin Console template 14:08 < Radix_> try and pick one of the default webgui ones if you can 14:09 < Radix_> if you _don't_ have any of the default ones.. hmm.. you may have to grab them from the create.sql somehow - won't be fun for sure 15:02 -!- maxscience [n=maxscien@85-18-14-23.fastres.net] has joined #webgui 15:02 < maxscience> yo 17:17 < maxscience> anybody hooome? :) 18:07 < davidcl> hello 18:23 < maxscience> hi 18:23 < maxscience> do you know some Perl? 18:25 < davidcl> some, yes. 18:25 < davidcl> Radix_, thanks for the suggestion. 18:35 < Radix_> hope it helps! :) 18:35 < Radix_> now I'm off to bed :) 18:35 < davidcl> Radix_: I think func=manageAssets and op=editSittings must both be from later versions. opt=editSettings produced a non-existent operation message in the webgui log. 18:35 < davidcl> func=manageAssets didn't produce a log entry but it didn't do anything either 18:36 < maxscience> can you help me converting a 10-lines php script to a WebGUI macro? 18:36 < Radix_> hmm.. I don't have a version 6.2 so don't know what the equivalent would be 18:36 < davidcl> I'll try upgrading further. I don't think it will make my life any worse, and it may make it easier to get help! 18:36 < Radix_> one option is simply upgrading to version 7 and then sorting it out :) 18:36 < davidcl> maxscience: sorry, I don't know enough about WebGUI macros yet to help with that. 18:37 < Radix_> maxscience - what does the php script do? 18:41 < Radix_> post the ten lines (or pm them to me) - I probably can't write it, but I can take a look! 18:42 < Radix_> off to bed now :) 18:44 < maxscience> ok thx! :) have a good sleep 20:32 < davidcl> At 6.6 I can access the editSettings screen, but, as a trade-off, I can no longer see any content on the site. 20:36 < davidcl> Well-- I can actually see some of it, but URLs have changed. Articles which were embedded in pages are no longer embedded. 20:36 < davidcl> Meanwhile I still can't see how to change the site's style. 20:36 < davidcl> I think at this point I am probably missing something obvious due to my unfamiliarity with WebGUI 20:37 < davidcl> (well, recent versions of WebGUI anyway). 23:36 -!- maxscience [n=maxscien@85-18-14-23.fastres.net] has quit ["Quitting!"] --- Day changed Thu Oct 05 2006 02:25 < Radix_> if you can use ?func=editBranch at your root level, you can probably edit the pages and set the styles for the whole site 03:59 -!- Radix-wrk [n=Radix@203.161.68.67] has joined #webgui 12:00 -!- Radix-wrk [n=Radix@203.161.68.67] has quit ["Windows doesn't have users. 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Anyone here? 03:19 -!- isaacfinnegan [n=isaac@207.66.131.242] has quit [] 03:32 -!- crythias [n=Gerald@c-68-51-234-189.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #webgui 03:32 -!- mode/#webgui [+v crythias] by ChanServ 06:24 -!- crythias [n=Gerald@c-68-51-234-189.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has left #webgui [] 14:26 -!- vidar [i=gudjon@157.157.215.202] has joined #webgui 14:42 < vidar> hi guys 14:57 < vidar> If I want AJAX calendar, can I use the wobject for events calendar but request it only to show me the calendar itself not the whole page 14:57 < vidar> ok wow now func=ajaxInlineView works 15:19 -!- vidar [i=gudjon@157.157.215.202] has quit ["leaving"] 16:00 -!- crythias [n=Gerald@c-68-51-234-189.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #webgui 16:00 -!- mode/#webgui [+v crythias] by ChanServ 19:21 -!- Anime-Addict [n=Nunya@84-189-254-84.skylogicnet.it] has joined #webgui 19:21 < Anime-Addict> Ah wow, kinda empty 19:21 <+crythias> um. yeah. 19:22 < Anime-Addict> Not used to that on IRC. 19:22 < Anime-Addict> Anyone willing to losten to my situation in relevance to WebGUI? 19:22 < Anime-Addict> *listen 19:22 <+crythias> well take the high speed drama that is WebGUI's forums and distill it 10 % and ... well 10% of nothing is still.. 19:23 < Anime-Addict> I tried the forums and the termonology is way over my head. 19:23 < Anime-Addict> Im beyond noobish when it comes to this. 19:23 <+crythias> ok... 19:24 < Anime-Addict> I was casting around online for a nice CMS to use. I had used MKportal before and found it... lacking 19:24 < Anime-Addict> Afer receiving several opinions and some general research, i found WebGUI. 19:25 < Anime-Addict> And now I wish to install it, except I have No idea how. My webhosting is through DreamHost; I ahve shell and FTP access, but there is where my knowledge ends. 19:26 < Anime-Addict> What am I looking at to get this running? Or am I out of luck? 19:27 <+crythias> http://blog.dreamhosters.com/kbase/index.cgi?area=2446 19:28 < Anime-Addict> Okay I am looking. 19:28 < Anime-Addict> Ah well, that sure answers my question now doesn't it. 19:31 < Anime-Addict> weak. 19:31 -!- Anime-Addict [n=Nunya@84-189-254-84.skylogicnet.it] has left #webgui [] 19:51 -!- Radix_ [n=Radix@203.161.71.161.static.amnet.net.au] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:52 -!- Radix_ [n=Radix@203.161.71.161.static.amnet.net.au] has joined #webgui 21:25 -!- maxscience [n=maxscien@85-18-14-23.fastres.net] has joined #webgui 21:25 < maxscience> hey guys 21:25 < maxscience> anybody home? 23:01 -!- crythias [n=Gerald@c-68-51-234-189.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit ["Leaving."] 23:42 -!- maxscience [n=maxscien@85-18-14-23.fastres.net] has quit ["Quitting!"] 23:53 -!- rindolf [n=shlomi@bzq-88-155-15-138.red.bezeqint.net] has joined #webgui 23:53 < rindolf> Hi all! 23:54 < rindolf> I have problems installing WebGUI from the CentOS binary distribution. 23:54 < rindolf> I'm using Mandriva 2007. 23:54 < rindolf> I get: 23:54 -!- crythias [n=Gerald@c-68-51-234-189.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #webgui 23:54 -!- mode/#webgui [+v crythias] by ChanServ 23:56 < rindolf> Anyone has any idea with : http://sial.org/pbot/20390 ? --- Day changed Fri Oct 13 2006 00:01 -!- coder_ [n=tim@216-43-195-34.ip.mcleodusa.net] has joined #webgui 00:02 < rindolf> Hi coder_ 00:04 < coder_> hi 00:04 < rindolf> coder_: can you help me with http://sial.org/pbot/20390 ? 00:06 < coder_> http://www.tech-recipes.com/mysql_tips762.html <-- ? 00:08 < coder_> http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/can-not-connect-to-server.html 00:10 < coder_> im assuming no one else is around? 00:10 < coder_> =) 01:07 -!- rindolf [n=shlomi@bzq-88-155-15-138.red.bezeqint.net] has quit ["Yay! I'm a Llama again!"] 02:16 <+crythias> hrm 04:14 -!- preaction [n=doug@static-72-1-4-143.ntd.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 06:31 -!- crythias [n=Gerald@c-68-51-234-189.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has left #webgui [] 09:09 -!- crythias [n=Gerald@c-68-51-234-189.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #webgui 09:09 -!- mode/#webgui [+v crythias] by ChanServ 09:30 -!- crythias [n=Gerald@c-68-51-234-189.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 10:09 -!- miz29 [n=abc@adsl-71-132-140-236.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has joined #webgui 10:09 < miz29> hi all. need help with install mysql error.. 10:12 < miz29> got it! thnx 10:12 -!- miz29 [n=abc@adsl-71-132-140-236.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has quit [Client Quit] 11:26 -!- preaction [n=doug@static-72-1-4-143.ntd.net] has joined #webgui 15:59 -!- MrHairgrease [n=martin@host1.procolix.nl] has joined #webgui 15:59 -!- mode/#webgui [+v MrHairgrease] by ChanServ 16:10 -!- MrHairgrease [n=martin@host1.procolix.nl] has left #webgui [] 16:13 -!- MrHairgrease [n=martin@host1.procolix.nl] has joined #webgui 16:13 -!- mode/#webgui [+v MrHairgrease] by ChanServ 17:02 -!- Jiggie [n=none@63-239-138-22.dia.static.qwest.net] has joined #webgui 17:02 < Jiggie> hey guys... 17:02 < Jiggie> anyone here 17:02 <+MrHairgrease> yeah 17:03 <+MrHairgrease> but i'm pretty busy 17:10 < xdanger> I'm going for a beer now =) 17:11 <+MrHairgrease> good idea 17:11 <+MrHairgrease> I'll have a look if there some beer around here =) 17:11 <+MrHairgrease> gotta love fridays =) 17:15 * MrHairgrease found a can of beer! 17:43 -!- coder_ [n=tim@216-43-195-34.ip.mcleodusa.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 18:17 -!- MrHairgrease [n=martin@host1.procolix.nl] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 18:55 < Jiggie> no beer 18:55 < Jiggie> working 20:08 -!- nutrino [n=newtrino@snare.grnoc.iu.edu] has joined #webgui 21:26 -!- crythias [n=gyoung@64.200.2.35] has joined #webgui 21:26 -!- mode/#webgui [+v crythias] by ChanServ 22:48 < Jiggie> yo 22:48 < Jiggie> crythias give u 50-100 to upgrade a database for me 23:20 -!- crythias [n=gyoung@64.200.2.35] has quit [Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)] 23:42 -!- crythias [n=gyoung@64.200.2.35] has joined #webgui 23:42 -!- mode/#webgui [+v crythias] by ChanServ 23:55 -!- crythias [n=gyoung@64.200.2.35] has quit ["Leaving."] --- Day changed Sat Oct 14 2006 00:02 -!- Jiggie [n=none@63-239-138-22.dia.static.qwest.net] has quit ["« Ë×Çü®§îöñX » Info~[v10B.3.3]~ Released~[March 01 2006]~ Channel~[#Excurs"] 05:03 -!- crythias [n=Gerald@c-68-51-234-189.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #webgui 05:03 -!- mode/#webgui [+v crythias] by ChanServ 05:52 -!- crythias [n=Gerald@c-68-51-234-189.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit ["Leaving."] 06:31 -!- crythias [n=Gerald@c-68-51-234-189.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #webgui 06:31 -!- mode/#webgui [+v crythias] by ChanServ 06:31 -!- crythias [n=Gerald@c-68-51-234-189.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has left #webgui [] 11:13 -!- preaction [n=doug@static-72-1-4-143.ntd.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 14:07 -!- preaction [n=doug@static-72-1-4-143.ntd.net] has joined #webgui --- Day changed Sun Oct 15 2006 04:06 -!- crythias [n=Gerald@c-68-51-234-189.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #webgui 04:06 -!- mode/#webgui [+v crythias] by ChanServ 04:24 -!- preaction [n=doug@static-72-1-4-143.ntd.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 07:02 -!- crythias [n=Gerald@c-68-51-234-189.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has left #webgui [] 08:12 -!- preaction [n=doug@static-72-1-4-143.ntd.net] has joined #webgui 17:03 -!- diakopter [i=diakopte@CPE-65-27-23-81.kc.res.rr.com] has joined #webgui 17:04 -!- diakopter [i=diakopte@CPE-65-27-23-81.kc.res.rr.com] has left #webgui [] 17:18 -!- diakopter [i=diakopte@pdpc/supporter/active/diakopter] has joined #WebGUI 18:19 -!- diakopter [i=diakopte@pdpc/supporter/active/diakopter] has left #WebGUI [] 22:15 -!- preaction [n=doug@static-72-1-4-143.ntd.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 22:35 -!- preaction [n=doug@static-72-1-4-143.ntd.net] has joined #webgui 23:52 -!- diakopter [n=SysAdmin@pdpc/supporter/active/diakopter] has joined #webgui 23:55 < diakopter> hello 23:58 -!- diakopter [n=SysAdmin@pdpc/supporter/active/diakopter] has left #webgui [] --- Day changed Mon Oct 16 2006 00:51 -!- crythias [n=Gerald@c-68-51-234-189.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #webgui 00:51 -!- mode/#webgui [+v crythias] by ChanServ 04:05 -!- Radix-wrk [n=Radix@203.161.68.67] has joined #webgui 07:35 -!- Radix-wrk [n=Radix@203.161.68.67] has quit ["Windows doesn't have users. 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PB's website doesn't do that, so wondering how others are doing it. 09:54 < preaction> Radix-wrk, two different sites probably 10:01 < Radix-wrk> two different sites? 10:03 < Radix-wrk> mine is setup how it's described on the page - http://www.plainblack.com/enabling_ssl mostly.. one section for port 80, one section for port 443 10:04 < Radix-wrk> if I enable ssl in webgui, and the user logs in when on http, it switches them to https for the login, but it doesn't switch them back to http afterwards 10:08 < preaction> rofl and apparently i can't even look at that page... that has to change 10:08 < Radix-wrk> it's in the ruling webgui section 10:10 < preaction> i don't even see that section 10:10 < preaction> did you have to pay for it? 10:10 < Radix-wrk> yeah 10:10 < preaction> which would explain it 10:11 < preaction> maybe when i start work tomorrow they'll give me access to that 10:11 < Radix-wrk> it's useful, but by no means perfect - has a few things missing. 10:13 < Radix-wrk> Oh well.. hopefully someone at PB will see my support request from last week and reply 10:16 < Radix-wrk> the time zone difference sucks sometimes :) 10:19 < preaction> yeah, i have to wake up in 6 hours, :( 10:24 < Radix-wrk> about what time I head to bed almost ;) 12:59 -!- Radix|_ [n=Radix@203.161.71.161.static.amnet.net.au] has joined #webgui 13:18 -!- Radix_ [n=Radix@203.161.71.161.static.amnet.net.au] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 16:23 -!- crythias [n=gyoung@64.200.2.35] has joined #webgui 16:23 -!- mode/#webgui [+v crythias] by ChanServ 20:11 -!- Radix-Work [n=Radix@203.161.68.67] has joined #webgui 20:20 -!- Radix-wrk [n=Radix@203.161.68.67] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 22:24 -!- crythias [n=gyoung@64.200.2.35] has left #webgui [] --- Day changed Tue Oct 17 2006 02:54 -!- crythia1 [n=Gerald@c-68-51-234-189.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #webgui 02:54 -!- mode/#webgui [+v crythia1] by ChanServ 03:23 -!- preaction [n=doug@static-72-1-4-143.ntd.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 04:48 -!- crythia1 [n=Gerald@c-68-51-234-189.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 05:03 -!- diakopter [n=SysAdmin@pdpc/supporter/active/diakopter] has joined #webgui 05:06 -!- diakopter [n=SysAdmin@pdpc/supporter/active/diakopter] has left #webgui [] 05:58 -!- preaction [n=doug@static-72-1-4-143.ntd.net] has joined #webgui 12:03 -!- Radix-Work [n=Radix@203.161.68.67] has quit ["Windows doesn't have users. 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That and a bottle of somethin'. 05:29 < Radix-wrk> mornin' 05:31 -!- crythia2 [n=Gerald@c-68-51-234-189.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #webgui 05:32 < crythia2> yeah 05:32 < Radix-wrk> one of you isn't enough huh? :) 05:32 < crythia2> guess not. and you? 05:33 < Radix-wrk> hehe.. one's at home, one's at work :) 05:33 -!- crythias [n=gyoung@64.200.2.35] has joined #webgui 05:33 -!- mode/#webgui [+v crythias] by ChanServ 05:33 < crythia2> hrm 05:33 < Radix-wrk> Besides.. two of me is the only way I'll get intelligent and meaningful conversation around here some days. 05:34 < Radix-wrk> ;) 05:34 < Radix-wrk> okay.. maybe not intelligent.. 05:34 -!- crythia1 [n=Gerald@68.51.234.189] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 05:35 < crythia2> got him... er ... me. 05:36 < Radix-wrk> I finally got my webgui perl script to work yesterday.. yay! I can now use a web url to add a webgui account (which means I can put it in our other database and a simple click will create the webgui account automatically). 05:37 < crythia2> kewl and you can use a wget call (forinstance) to automate the click... 05:37 < crythia2> or curl 05:39 < Radix-wrk> Well.. it's the other way we want to do it from. We have a filemaker database we keep user details in, and now we can simply press a button in filemaker and have it create an account for us matching the current user. 05:40 < Radix-wrk> it calls the url and passes along all the user details as parameters 05:41 < Radix-wrk> would be nice to do an auth module for it, but there's no perl DBI support for filemaker and no easy way to get webgui to talk to it 05:41 < Radix-wrk> so we're doing it via sql data dumps and perl scripts fired off via http :) 05:44 < crythia2> filemaker -> webgui? 05:45 < Radix-wrk> filemaker can do sql calls - so we're using that to dump info into mysql 05:45 < crythia2> right... 05:45 < Radix-wrk> we don't really want to play with the webgui sql directly though, could change in future and break things.. hence why I decided to use the webgui perl api to add users 05:45 < crythia2> ok. 05:46 < Radix-wrk> though we're using filemaker to dump a database containing group permissions for webgui to use 05:46 < Radix-wrk> that works a treat 05:46 < crythia2> I'm playing with xdrive 05:46 < Radix-wrk> what's that? 05:47 < crythia2> I remember some 5 years ago when people were left and right providing free web storage and then they ALL went byebye. 05:47 < crythia2> xdrive, idrive, freedrive... 05:47 < crythia2> now aol bought xdrive. 5gb free online storage. 05:47 < Radix-wrk> Ahh.. neat 05:47 < crythia2> worth a shot to trust again. 05:48 < Radix-wrk> you trust AOL? :) 05:48 < crythia2> "Free" but I don't know how much AOL can stay forever. 05:48 < crythia2> well, there is that, but on the other hand, AOL does have some deep pockets. 05:49 < crythia2> I unfortunately need to reboot my computer... installation of the xdrive client on Windows xp... 05:50 < crythia2> while I'm at it, I might as well enjoy time with my wife. Ciao for now. 05:50 < Radix-wrk> most of the free ones of yesterday got abused majorly by warez ppls.. hence why they went byebye 05:50 < Radix-wrk> enjoy :) 05:50 -!- crythia2 [n=Gerald@c-68-51-234-189.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 05:53 -!- preaction [n=doug@static-72-1-4-143.ntd.net] has joined #webgui 11:19 -!- commctrl [n=doug@static-72-1-4-143.ntd.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 12:53 -!- Radix-wrk [n=Radix@203.161.68.67] has quit ["Windows doesn't have users. 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And this is the perfect use for the dashboard - to let the customer see it all at a glance and customise it themselves 02:37 < Radix|_> what ticket system are you using? 02:59 -!- crythias [n=Gerald@c-68-51-234-189.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #webgui 02:59 -!- mode/#webgui [+v crythias] by ChanServ 03:34 -!- crythias [n=Gerald@c-68-51-234-189.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit ["Leaving."] 03:46 -!- Radix-wrk [n=Radix@203.161.68.67] has joined #webgui 04:43 -!- Netsplit leguin.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: ckotil, Radix|_, Radix-wrk 04:45 -!- Netsplit over, joins: ckotil, Radix|_ 04:46 -!- Radix-wrk [n=Radix@203.161.68.67] has joined #webgui 11:20 -!- Radix-wrk [n=Radix@203.161.68.67] has quit ["Windows doesn't have users. 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I'm out for a couple of hours 12:34 < vidar_> Æ:) 14:22 -!- Radix_ [n=Radix@203.161.71.161.static.amnet.net.au] has quit ["Windows doesn't have users, it has hostages."] 14:33 -!- Radix_ [n=Radix@203.161.71.161.static.amnet.net.au] has joined #webgui 14:42 -!- Radix_ [n=Radix@203.161.71.161.static.amnet.net.au] has quit ["Windows doesn't have users, it has hostages."] 14:48 -!- Radix_ [n=Radix@203.161.71.161.static.amnet.net.au] has joined #webgui 17:10 -!- crythias [n=Gerald@c-68-51-234-189.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] --- Day changed Sun Oct 22 2006 00:20 -!- crythias [n=Gerald@c-68-51-234-189.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #webgui 00:20 -!- mode/#webgui [+v crythias] by ChanServ 07:12 -!- crythias [n=Gerald@c-68-51-234-189.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 08:01 -!- crythias [n=Gerald@c-68-51-234-189.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #webgui 08:01 -!- mode/#webgui [+v crythias] by ChanServ 08:23 -!- crythias [n=Gerald@c-68-51-234-189.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 13:55 -!- Netsplit over, joins: Radix_ 13:55 -!- Netsplit leguin.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: vidar_ 13:55 -!- Netsplit over, joins: vidar_ 18:08 < vidar_> how comes that the new variables that I am declaring in the %var hash do never work in the templates 18:21 < vidar_> do they never refresh?? 18:22 < xdanger> did you clean your cache? 18:22 < xdanger> on the server side that is 18:22 < xdanger> templates and assets are cachet for some time 18:22 < vidar_> yes cleaned cach, restarted, commeted 18:23 < vidar_> sorry 18:23 < vidar_> cleared cache, restarted wre and commited 18:24 < vidar_> But the variables are completely nonexistent 18:25 < xdanger> commited? 18:25 < vidar_> changes 18:26 < vidar_> if I change the template then the changes are visible 18:26 < xdanger> you should commit first, then clear and restart 18:26 < vidar_> but if I change the perl code then it never matters 18:26 < vidar_> yes I did it in that order 18:28 < vidar_> I even changed some of the variables but no change 18:33 < vidar_> man 18:33 < vidar_> this is twisted 18:35 < vidar_> this is correct path? /data/WebGUI/lib/WebGUI/Asset/Wobject 18:49 < vidar_> is something wrong with this: 18:49 < vidar_> $var{'day.label'} = 5; 18:55 < vidar_> there must be some other caching going on 18:58 < vidar_> I removed some variables from the code but still no change 19:02 < xdanger> Is it before the $var is binded to the template? 19:03 < vidar_> yes 19:04 < vidar_> same place as the rest of the $var statements 19:04 < vidar_> I have done this before 19:04 < vidar_> no problem then 19:05 < vidar_> 'testvar' => $daysInMonth 19:05 < vidar_> in the push(@$monthloop, { did not either work 19:08 < vidar_> any advise on perl module reload forcing? 22:36 -!- crythias [n=Gerald@c-68-51-234-189.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #webgui 22:36 -!- mode/#webgui [+v crythias] by ChanServ 23:08 < xdanger> vidar_: Apache2::Reload or something... --- Day changed Mon Oct 23 2006 00:59 -!- preaction [n=doug@static-72-1-4-143.ntd.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 03:10 -!- Radix-wrk [n=Radix@203.161.68.67] has joined #webgui 05:29 -!- crythias [n=Gerald@c-68-51-234-189.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has left #webgui [] 06:22 -!- Radix-wrk [n=Radix@203.161.68.67] has quit ["Windows doesn't have users. 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It might take even longer... 23:25 -!- crythias changed the topic of #webgui to: WebGUI (Stable: 7.0.9 :: Dev: 7.1.1) || Need help? Ask and wait patiently (it might take awhile) 23:59 -!- crythias [n=gyoung@64.200.2.35] has quit ["Leaving."] --- Day changed Tue Oct 24 2006 00:02 < preaction> hey... we're bringing two staff up to speed (and i'm the slow one... :p) 00:03 < preaction> all these custom assets, all these old versions, all this CLUTTER 01:28 -!- crythias [n=Gerald@c-68-51-234-189.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #webgui 01:28 -!- mode/#webgui [+v crythias] by ChanServ 02:57 < preaction> crythias, which bug in particular? i'm pulling a late night for some reason :( 03:02 -!- Netsplit leguin.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: +crythias, preaction, vidar_, Radix_ 03:02 -!- Netsplit over, joins: +crythias, preaction, Radix_, vidar_ 03:45 -!- Radix-wrk [n=Radix@203.161.68.67] has joined #webgui 06:27 < Radix-wrk> anyone there? 06:28 <+crythias> heh 06:28 <+crythias> long time to read, reply 06:28 <+crythias> preaction: I'm joking. 06:29 < Radix-wrk> anyone know what the template variables are that you can use with to restrict it to the first X words or something? 06:29 <+crythias> only available with the uss, I think. 06:30 <+crythias> cs 06:30 < Radix-wrk> I've seen them used before with forums in webgui, but can't remember the syntax 06:30 < Radix-wrk> yeah.. with cs posts 06:30 < Radix-wrk> It's like or something like that.. 06:30 < Radix-wrk> it's not documented anywhere though of course.. so I can't remember the exact wording used 06:32 <+crythias> yeah 06:33 < Radix-wrk> I remember running into it in someone's example code - and thinking.. damn.. that's cool, but didn't have a use for it straight away.. now I have and can't remember what syntax it was 06:33 <+crythias> yeah and it's not as easy to find as before 06:36 < Radix-wrk> There should be a search for help :) 06:37 < Radix-wrk> content.first.100words 06:38 <+crythias> yeah. and others 06:38 < Radix-wrk> might have been an RFE though it looks like 06:39 < Radix-wrk> http://www.plainblack.com/plain_black_support/post.pm-variables 06:40 <+crythias> http://www.plainblack.com/using_webgui?op=viewHelp;hid=article%20template;namespace=Asset_Article 06:43 < Radix-wrk> doesn't seem to be in collaboration posts though 06:46 < Radix-wrk> only variable for the post is content - no other options.. bummer.. might see if that's RFE'd already and if not request it. 06:46 <+crythias> yeah 06:48 <+crythias> http://www.gwy2.org/fomfiles/cache/75.html 06:51 < Radix-wrk> I'll have to hassle joeri again about sqlreport.org - that has some awesome sql examples in it. He said he'd fixed it, but the site is still down for me. 07:34 -!- crythias [n=Gerald@c-68-51-234-189.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has left #webgui [] 07:52 < preaction> there's also the same thing in the Article wobject 07:53 < preaction> i find the entire thing kludgy, since all those vars need to be propagated in memory 07:53 < preaction> instead there should be a "previewLength" with something like (1 paragraph) or (100 words) 11:45 -!- Radix-wrk [n=Radix@203.161.68.67] has quit ["Windows doesn't have users. 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(respectfully) 21:40 < ckotil> i could, but i have 10 different host names 21:40 <+crythias> all 10 will use the same rss page? 21:41 < ckotil> same template 21:41 <+crythias> even if it was a session variable... 21:41 <+crythias> (turning debug on will help) 21:41 < ckotil> k 21:42 <+crythias> you'd get it from the request, I think, right? 21:43 < ckotil> i dunno. session.env.hostname i got from your nav template example 21:43 < ckotil> seems to no longer work in wG7 21:44 <+crythias> right. I think no more session variables. 21:44 < ckotil> OK 21:44 < ckotil> ^C is that the macro for company url? 21:45 < ckotil> bc i could pry get by using that. 21:45 <+crythias> http://www.plainblack.com/using_webgui?op=viewHelp;hid=template%20variables;namespace=Asset_Template 21:45 <+crythias> http://www.plainblack.com/using_webgui?op=viewHelp;hid=company%20name;namespace=Macro_c_companyName 21:46 <+crythias> http://www.plainblack.com/using_webgui?op=viewHelp;hid=company%20url;namespace=Macro_u_companyUrl 21:46 < ckotil> ;] 21:46 < ckotil> thanks 21:46 <+crythias> you're welcome. 23:13 -!- ckotil [n=newtrino@snare.grnoc.iu.edu] has quit ["leaving"] 23:32 -!- Jiggie [n=none@63-239-138-22.dia.static.qwest.net] has joined #webgui 23:36 -!- Jiggie [n=none@63-239-138-22.dia.static.qwest.net] has quit ["« Ë×Çü®§îöñX » Info~[v10B.3.3]~ Released~[March 01 2006]~ Channel~[#Excurs"] --- Day changed Wed Oct 25 2006 00:17 -!- crythias [n=gyoung@64.200.2.35] has left #webgui [] 00:20 < preaction> damnit he left and i needed to thank him for helping me out... support days are brutal... 02:20 < Radix_> You're doing a fair bit of support these days I notice.. giving JT and Roy a break huh? :) 02:23 < preaction> yeah, Roy's got a big project, and JT's just forsaken support 02:23 < Radix_> heh 02:24 < preaction> Roy's got the fun of updating a whole slew of custom assets to webgui 7 02:24 < Radix_> Ahh.. lovely 02:24 < preaction> (that were written by retarded monkeys) 02:24 < preaction> but i don't ask questions 02:24 < Radix_> who's that for - brunswick? 02:24 < preaction> hmm... i just insulted a client and i'm going to tell you whom? omg! 02:25 < Radix_> lol 02:25 < Radix_> true :) 02:25 < preaction> but to be honest, i don't know. wasnt' paying that much attention 02:25 < preaction> just liked the idea of getting them updated 02:25 < preaction> old versions... ew... 02:25 < Radix_> fair enough 02:26 < preaction> but as a trade-off, i get to completely redesign the EventsCalendar from scratch. 02:26 < preaction> this thing is going to be Sweet 02:26 < Radix_> neat 02:27 < preaction> Multiple feed types (iCal, RSS, Atom, XML, etc...) that just use standard templates (so you can edit just about every possible way of giving the data out) 02:27 < preaction> I also hope to implement a larger percentage of the iCal RFC than most other systems 02:27 < preaction> or at least leave things open enough so that they can be later 02:28 < preaction> i'd REALLY like to see a centralized Event system, or Calendar system 02:28 < preaction> so that things such as iCal's ToDo list, Journal entries, etc... can just be IN THERE 02:28 < Radix_> any support for outlook 2003's crippled output formats? (I hate MS myself, but more than half my office uses it) 02:29 < preaction> yeah, that's a big thing. wikipedia (of all places) has details on how I can do the workarounds 02:29 < Radix_> heh.. cool 02:29 < preaction> i have in mind a ?feed=ical;compat=outlook2003 or something similar 02:30 < Radix_> sounds good :) 02:30 < preaction> with also allowing ?template= to be specified right from the URL (for custom templates) 02:30 < preaction> so that you can have a default ?feed=XXX template, but also allow users to see it different ways 02:32 < Radix_> Well I guess I'd better head off to work. See ya again in an hour if you're still awake :) 02:33 < preaction> have fun 03:35 -!- Radix-wrk [n=Radix@203.161.68.67] has joined #webgui 03:59 * Radix-wrk reads one of preaction's replies in the PB support forum and offers to help carry a pitchfork for the cause. 03:59 < preaction> lol, oh god 03:59 < Radix-wrk> heh 04:00 < preaction> the #css channel is RIFE with this crap... 04:00 < preaction> hell, steve's got a problem with some CSS dropdown menus he's building with the navigation asset... it's weird. 04:00 < Radix-wrk> yeah.. css/styles suck with IE around (and still very much dominant) unfortunately 04:00 < preaction> in IE, the items that do not have a child UL are messed up 04:01 < preaction> i've been stumped for hours 04:01 < Radix-wrk> can't fake a UL then? - ie.
     
      04:01 < Radix-wrk> err..
    04:02 < preaction> that's not in the navigation asset 04:02 < preaction> i think it's something to do with the negative margins he's been using 04:02 < Radix-wrk> erk 04:02 < Radix-wrk> enjoy! :) (better you than me) 04:02 < preaction> yeah... 04:03 < preaction> i gave up and am now enjoying reading about Gnome's development roadmap 04:03 < Radix-wrk> heh 11:50 -!- Radix-wrk [n=Radix@203.161.68.67] has quit ["Windows doesn't have users. It has hostages."] 15:12 < vidar_> preaction: I have been changing the EventsCalendar for my boss, he has some very basic needs which are not present (such as view only single/ day/week). 15:13 < vidar_> But for some strange reason I can no longer change the source code 16:10 -!- ckotil [n=newtrino@snare.grnoc.iu.edu] has joined #webgui 16:32 -!- MrHairgreas1 [n=martin@host1.procolix.nl] has joined #webgui 17:25 < vidar_> OK now this issue needs to be resolved 17:26 < vidar_> $var{'pagination.previousPageUrlVidar'} = $self->getUrl('calMonthStart='.($calMonthStart-$monthRangeLength).';calMonthEnd='.($calMonthEnd-$monthRangeLength)); 17:26 < vidar_> $var{'pagination.previousPageUrlVidar2'} = $self->getUrl('calMonthStart='.($calMonthStart-$monthRangeLength).';calMonthEnd='.($calMonthEnd-$monthRangeLength)); 17:26 < preaction> um... that has to be the worst possible way to do it? 17:26 < vidar_> the first variable is accessible from within a the template but the second is not 17:27 < vidar_> preaction: this is just copy paste from existing code 17:27 < preaction> which would explain why i'm rewriting it 17:28 < preaction> i haven't even gotten a chance to look at the old one yet, i've just got a preliminary writeup on the new one 17:28 < vidar_> I have looked at the old one 17:29 < vidar_> first to fix this code (was missing parenthesis) to allow me to use AJAX to scrool between months 17:30 < preaction> oooh 17:30 < vidar_> now I decleared an array of a particular day 17:30 < vidar_> to be able to have a template showing only one day of the month 17:31 < vidar_> but the problem is that webgui/wre does not want to allow me to access the new variables 17:31 < vidar_> and my boss is really annoyed why the calendar is still missing this essential functionality 17:31 < preaction> where did you put them? 17:32 < vidar_> at the same place as the rest 17:32 < preaction> and i said i'm working on it, the problem is they've given me a month for the rewrite 17:32 < preaction> you restarted apache, right? 17:32 < vidar_> look above, the first variable is working but the second (next statment in the code) is not accessible 17:33 < vidar_> I have restarted everything except the server 17:33 < vidar_> physical server that is 17:33 < preaction> meaning, i assume the kernel 17:33 < vidar_> yes 17:33 < vidar_> running wre on debian 17:33 < preaction> you'd have to paste more of your code than just those two lines 17:34 < preaction> damnit, why no bot in here 17:34 < preaction> perlbot gave you a pastebin to use 17:35 < vidar_> When I added the AJAX URL variable then I only needed to perform rc.webgui restart and it was working 17:35 < vidar_> ok 17:35 < vidar_> let my find a decent version 17:35 < vidar_> hard to code without any testing 17:36 < preaction> sure it's not, use Apache2::Reload 17:36 < preaction> that's what I use in my dev environment, works quite awesomely 17:40 < vidar_> Should I put use Apache::Reload in EventsCalendar.pm ? 17:41 < preaction> no, put it in your apache2.conf for your dev environment 17:41 < preaction> and it has to be Apache2::Reload, you're using apache2 17:41 < vidar_> http://sial.org/pbot/20647 17:42 < vidar_> preaction: I am still waiting for a dev environment 17:42 < preaction> a single line after SetHandler perl-script 17:42 < preaction> PerlInitHandler Apache2::Reload 17:42 < vidar_> ok 17:42 < preaction> it doesn't hurt anything on production (that i've noticed, do NOT quote me on that) 17:42 < vidar_> hehe 17:42 < vidar_> it is not production 17:42 < vidar_> but it is being used on a presentation 17:43 < preaction> all it does is reload a Perl module that's changed, I mean the only harm is if somehow you completely screw up the module and just forget about the Reload thing 17:43 < preaction> oh wait, you need another line: PerlSetVar ReloadAll On 17:43 < preaction> (that can be different things depending on what modules you want to reload) 17:44 < vidar_> humm 17:44 < vidar_> do I need both lines or just the latter} 17:45 < preaction> both 17:45 < preaction> the first one loads Apache2::Reload 17:45 < preaction> the second one tells Apache2::Reload what modules it's supposed to reload 17:45 < vidar_> what about PerlInitHandler WebGUI} 17:45 < preaction> that stays 17:46 < vidar_> ok 17:46 < preaction> that's very very important :p 17:46 < preaction> read perldoc Apache2::Reload 17:46 < vidar_> ok lets try this 17:47 < preaction> ... this code is a mess (not yours, the entire thing... can't blame you for trying to add things to an existing mess) 17:47 < vidar_> hehe 17:48 < preaction> but it does give a good idea: instead of using different tables for different events, just use folders in the asset tree 17:48 < vidar_> yes that is neat 17:48 < vidar_> will your not be compatible with the current version? 17:48 < preaction> should they be configurable: say "EventCalendar instance 1" uses /events/public and "EventCalendar instance 2" uses /events 17:48 < preaction> it'll break all compatibility, it has to 17:49 < preaction> i'll be making an upgrade script as best i can 17:49 < preaction> but with your changes, it might be difficult 17:49 < vidar_> the thing that I like about this one is the scope 17:49 < preaction> but your changes will be obsolete with my new one 17:49 < vidar_> preaction: my changes are basically adding a extra GET parameter to filter one day 17:49 < preaction> scope is basically selecting which folder is the folder we look for the event assets in 17:49 < vidar_> yes 17:50 < preaction> would've been better to add a new www_ func 17:50 < preaction> so i would think it far better to say "Select what folder to look for event assets in" and "Recursion depth" <- more straightforward 17:50 < vidar_> preaction: that is what I thought 17:50 < preaction> i have to change the event assets too 17:50 < preaction> there are basic things that don't exist in them 17:51 < vidar_> preaction: I did not find any www_func documentation so I was not sure how that copes with templates 17:51 < preaction> yeah, that's an interesting case... 17:51 < vidar_> :> 17:51 < preaction> if i understand correctly... 17:52 < preaction> webGUI calls the www_ method (with equal to the ?func= param) 17:52 < vidar_> yes 17:52 < preaction> the default www_view calls prepareView() to prepare the template 17:52 < preaction> then calls view() 17:53 < preaction> then writes headers, head tags, stylings, other stuff, and then the view() response, and then footers and the like 17:53 < vidar_> all the code is in view() 17:54 < vidar_> but it seems that the modules was not reloaded 17:54 < preaction> did you reload Apache2 after changing the config? 17:54 < preaction> check the error log, you might've had a module error (and apache2::Reload would fail) 17:54 < vidar_> I restarted WRE 17:55 < vidar_> ok 17:55 < vidar_> still trying to find my way around WRE 17:55 < preaction> not the webgui error log, the apache2 error log, /data/wre/prereqs/apache2/logs/modperl.error.log <- should be 17:57 < vidar_> [Wed Oct 25 14:47:11 2006] [warn] Init: Session Cache is not configured [hint: SSLSessionCache] 17:57 < vidar_> [Wed Oct 25 14:47:14 2006] [notice] Apache/2.0.58 (Unix) WebGUI/7.0.7 mod_ssl/2.0.58 OpenSSL/0.9.7i mod_apreq2-20051231/2.5.7 mod_perl/2.0.2 Perl/v5.8.8 configured -- resuming normal operations 17:57 < vidar_> nothing going on here 17:58 < vidar_> [Wed Oct 25 13:28:15 2006] (27998) Apache2::SizeLimit httpd process too big, exiting at SIZE=100480 KB SHARE=45652 KB REQUESTS=871 LIFETIME=21760 seconds 17:58 < vidar_> interesting 17:59 < preaction> that happens all the time, i think the purpose of that is that mod_perl doesn't clean up some things right 17:59 < preaction> or WebGUI 17:59 < preaction> there are a lot of circular references :( 18:00 < vidar_> perhaps I should update webgui 18:00 < preaction> what version you using? 18:00 < vidar_> 7.0.7 18:00 < preaction> 7.1 isn't stable, but 7.0.9 is 18:00 < preaction> should be trivial 18:01 < vidar_> scared to see if some of the templates break 18:01 < preaction> why is there a startMonth and an endMonth? 18:01 < preaction> your templates should be fine 18:01 < preaction> unless you changed the default ones 18:01 < preaction> read the changelog 18:02 < preaction> and the 7.0.* releases are bugfixes, .. is the standard we're using iirc 18:34 -!- MrHairgreas1 [n=martin@host1.procolix.nl] has left #webgui [] 18:56 < ckotil> how do I view the rss feed from the messageboards? 18:56 < ckotil> or, rss feed of the message boards rather 19:02 -!- MrHairgrease [n=martin@x032124.its-s.tudelft.nl] has joined #webgui 19:02 -!- mode/#webgui [+v MrHairgrease] by ChanServ 20:06 < vidar_> preaction: they use startMonth & EndMonth because the calendar can display multiple months at the same time 20:08 < preaction> okay, that's planned for a future addition in mine, but to start will only be one "period" period being a day, week, etc... 20:10 < vidar_> I haveé gathererd quite a specification from various customers regarding the calendar 20:11 < vidar_> could be useful to see what others expect from a calendar asset 20:16 < preaction> and I told frank I should post to the dev forum with the design doc I had, but he vetoed (since this rewrite is being funded by a client) 20:16 < preaction> so instead I just have to keep everything open-ended, which is my default way of designing anyway *toot* 20:18 <+MrHairgrease> good to see someone's picking up the calendar 20:18 <+MrHairgrease> what are the features your client needs? 20:18 <+MrHairgrease> or is it just a rewrite of the existing functionality? 20:19 < vidar_> that would be a waste of money 20:19 <+MrHairgrease> why? 20:19 <+MrHairgrease> I agree it sucks 20:19 <+MrHairgrease> but it just needs extra stuff 20:20 < vidar_> no 20:20 <+MrHairgrease> a rewrite would be base 20:20 < preaction> rewrite for more features, iCal, RSS, plus open-ended for more 20:20 < vidar_> for example 20:20 <+MrHairgrease> yeah 20:20 <+MrHairgrease> so it needs extra stuff =) 20:20 <+MrHairgrease> right? 20:21 < preaction> oh yes 20:21 < vidar_> 'url' => $filteredEvents{$day}->[0]->{url} 20:21 <+MrHairgrease> yeah 20:22 <+MrHairgrease> that's ugly 20:22 < vidar_> so each days url is just an event on that day 20:22 < vidar_> what about other events on that day?? 20:22 < vidar_> this is trivial 20:23 < vidar_> or at least there should be a 'all' => $filteredEvents{$day} 20:24 <+MrHairgrease> probably it does 20:25 <+MrHairgrease> I'm sure preaction will fix those things 20:27 < vidar_> MrHairgrease: do you have any idea why my code does not show up after apache restart? 20:28 <+MrHairgrease> you mean you get perl code in you browser? 20:29 <+MrHairgrease> usually that's b/c apache doesn't know what to do with the files 20:29 < vidar_> no I mean that my improved EventsCalendar behaves like the old one 20:29 <+MrHairgrease> oh 20:29 <+MrHairgrease> did you stop/start apache? 20:29 < vidar_> í stoped WRE 20:30 <+MrHairgrease> ok 20:30 <+MrHairgrease> I never used the wre before 20:30 <+MrHairgrease> so I'm not sure what to do 20:30 <+MrHairgrease> did you flush the cache? 20:30 < vidar_> The only thing that has changed since I last modified the source is that more RAM was installed 20:31 < vidar_> MrHairgrease: yes 20:31 <+MrHairgrease> another possibility is that you are editing the wrong file 20:31 <+MrHairgrease> I had that once 20:31 < vidar_> if I completly remove the module then it outputs a blank page 20:31 < vidar_> if I use the new variables in the template then they are blank 20:31 <+MrHairgrease> hmm 20:31 <+MrHairgrease> weird 20:32 <+MrHairgrease> what kind of changes did you do 20:32 < vidar_> if I change the content of existing variable then the old value is still showing 20:33 < vidar_> I mostly added a new variable to the hash varible containing all the template stuff 20:33 <+MrHairgrease> can you paste the diff somewhere? 20:33 <+MrHairgrease> I'll have a look 20:34 <+MrHairgrease> but first I have to do some grocery shopping 20:34 <+MrHairgrease> I'll be back in 30 or so 20:34 -!- MrHairgrease is now known as MrAfkGrease 20:38 -!- Chris62vw [n=chris@lv.pm.org] has joined #webgui 20:38 -!- perlbot [n=perlbot@lv.pm.org] has joined #webgui 20:39 -!- Chris62vw [n=chris@lv.pm.org] has left #webgui [] 20:50 < vidar_> starnge 20:50 < vidar_> I magnaged to change the Event.pm 20:53 < vidar_> must be some error in my code 21:02 <+MrAfkGrease> did you commit your new templates? 21:06 < vidar_> Not always, I see them changes as I always put version number on them 22:11 < ckotil> how do I view the rss feed of the messageboards? 22:18 -!- isaacfinnegan [n=isaac@207.66.131.242] has joined #webgui 22:18 < isaacfinnegan> anyone here? 22:18 < isaacfinnegan> when processing a template, are macros processed before or after the template variables 22:18 < isaacfinnegan> template tags, I mean 22:27 <+MrAfkGrease> after 22:27 <+MrAfkGrease> macro's are processed in the end 22:32 < isaacfinnegan> k. thx 23:01 < preaction> perlbot <3 23:01 < perlbot> bullshit, I'm way more than 3 23:02 < preaction> perlbot cpan for HTML::Template 23:02 < perlbot> Documentation for 'HTML::Template' can be found here: http://xrl.us/srx8 23:02 < preaction> yay 23:02 < preaction> now i get roy to give me chanserv and this place can start hopping 23:03 <+MrAfkGrease> perlbot > 3 23:03 <+MrAfkGrease> perlbot < 3 23:03 < preaction> perlbot help 23:03 < perlbot> (fact)::tell (who) about (what)::(what) > (who)::learn (what) as (info)::relearn (fact) as (info)::phone (phone number)::shorten (url)::shorten it::search (module)::docs (module)::perldoc -f (function)::jargon (term)::math::fortune::flip::host (type) (record)::rot13::roll (die)::tempconv (temp)::scramble (foo)::8ball::slap::diss::what time is it::top/bottom (number) karma::geoip (ip) 23:04 < preaction> perlbot codebase 23:04 < perlbot> check out my insides: http://chrisangell.com/incoming/chrisbot/v3 23:04 < preaction> crap... what's the factoid for the list of factoids... 23:05 <+MrAfkGrease> perlbot fortune 23:05 < perlbot> "He could be a poster child for retroactive birth control." 23:05 <+MrAfkGrease> perlbot slap 23:05 < preaction> perlbot slap MrAfkGrease 23:05 * perlbot slaps MrAfkGrease around a bit with a large trout 23:05 < preaction> also, you can interact w/ perlbot in pm, or in #perlbot 23:05 <+MrAfkGrease> no 23:06 < preaction> the author's a friend of mine, and it's one of the main #perl bots (so i always miss it when i need factoids) 23:06 <+MrAfkGrease> I'll let you guys 'enjoy' my boredom 23:06 <+MrAfkGrease> =) 23:06 < preaction> oh, i see how it is 23:06 < preaction> perlbot be MrAfkGrease 23:06 < perlbot> How I can make teh web wit pearl?!?! 23:06 <+MrAfkGrease> perlbot be preaction 23:06 < perlbot> How I can make teh web wit pearl?!?! 23:06 < preaction> i need to get him some more of those :p 23:06 <+MrAfkGrease> perlbot be Rizen 23:06 < perlbot> How I can make teh web wit pearl?!?! 23:07 <+MrAfkGrease> hmmm 23:07 < preaction> wtf... no randomness anymore? 23:07 <+MrAfkGrease> does that serve a purpose in any way? 23:07 < preaction> nope, just a way to flame newbs 23:07 <+MrAfkGrease> oh 23:07 <+MrAfkGrease> that should grow the community =) 23:08 < preaction> main purpose is infobot, has some other nice things 23:08 <+MrAfkGrease> perlbot rot13 webgui 23:08 < perlbot> jrothv 23:08 < preaction> perlbot host a plainblack.com 23:08 < perlbot> plainblack.com has address 207.44.136.25 23:08 < preaction> perlbot host plainblack.com 23:08 <+MrAfkGrease> perlbot rot13 jrothv 23:08 < perlbot> webgui 23:08 < preaction> perlbot host ip plainblack.com 23:08 < perlbot> Sorry, type ip isn't allowed. It might take up too much space here, or may be unsupported. Allowed types are: a aaaa ptr mx ns cname 23:08 <+MrAfkGrease> perlbot rot13 MrHairgrease 23:08 < perlbot> ZeUnveternfr 23:08 -!- MrAfkGrease is now known as ZeUnveternfr 23:08 < preaction> perlbot -f crypt 23:09 < preaction> lol 23:09 < perlbot> Documentation for 'crypt' can be found here: http://snipurl.com/fsst 23:09 <+ZeUnveternfr> perlbot scramble yoMomma 23:09 < perlbot> ymomMoa 23:09 <+ZeUnveternfr> perlbot scramble yoMomma 23:09 < perlbot> yMmmooa 23:09 <+ZeUnveternfr> nice 23:10 <+ZeUnveternfr> now it's even easier to perform useless tasks =) 23:10 < preaction> perlbot scramble i believe that was based on the study that you can still read words if the first and last letters are in the correct place 23:10 < perlbot> i beileve taht was bsead on the sdtuy taht you can slitl raed wrdos if the frist and lsat leertts are in the crrceot pclae 23:10 <+ZeUnveternfr> ah 23:11 <+ZeUnveternfr> i get it 23:11 <+ZeUnveternfr> perlbot flip onno 23:11 < preaction> perlbot flip 2 23:11 < preaction> hmm... 23:11 < preaction> perlbot ymmv 23:11 < perlbot> Your mileage may vary 23:11 <+ZeUnveternfr> aha 23:11 < preaction> that's the main thing, i need it in almost every channel i'm in 23:12 <+ZeUnveternfr> perlbot scramble otto 23:12 < preaction> i hate explaining IRC acronyms 23:12 <+ZeUnveternfr> so don't 23:12 < preaction> i don't, perlbot does 23:12 < preaction> perlbot tmtowtdi 23:12 < perlbot> The Perl motto: There's more than one way to do it! 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Your kind of idiot! 23:26 < preaction> perlbot karma preaction 23:26 < perlbot> Karma for preaction: -1 23:26 < preaction> aww... 23:26 <+ZeUnveternfr> perlbot karma ZeUnveternfr 23:26 < perlbot> ZeUnveternfr doesn't have any karma 23:27 <+ZeUnveternfr> well there's a surprise =) 23:27 <+ZeUnveternfr> MrHairgrease++ 23:27 <+ZeUnveternfr> perlbot karma MrHairgrease 23:27 < perlbot> Karma for MrHairgrease: 1 23:27 <+ZeUnveternfr> MrHairgrease++ 23:27 <+ZeUnveternfr> perlbot karma MrHairgrease 23:27 < perlbot> Karma for MrHairgrease: 2 23:27 <+ZeUnveternfr> hah! 23:27 <+ZeUnveternfr> beat the system 23:28 -!- ZeUnveternfr is now known as MrHairgrease 23:28 * MrHairgrease is invincible! 23:28 <+MrHairgrease> perlbot flip zappo 23:28 <+MrHairgrease> MrHairgrease++ 23:28 < perlbot> What kind of idiot karmas himself? Your kind of idiot! 23:29 <+MrHairgrease> perlbot karma MrHairgrease 23:29 < perlbot> Karma for MrHairgrease: 1 23:37 < ckotil> Are there any way to view/get stats of user page views? 23:43 < preaction> like, on a per-WebGUI-user basis? or like from the Apache access logs? 23:48 < ckotil> per webgui user would be really nice 23:48 < ckotil> i can use awstats on the logs. 23:49 <+MrHairgrease> perhaps you can tie in webgui larma as well 23:49 <+MrHairgrease> karma* 23:49 <+MrHairgrease> perlbot perlbot 23:49 < perlbot> Perl OO tricks and examples - http://perldoc.perl.org/perlbot.html 23:50 < preaction> there'd probably be a way to see which user logged in from which IP and for what duration from the access logs, otherwise i'm not seeing anything directly inside webgui 23:50 < ckotil> ya. 23:50 <+MrHairgrease> you'd have to tie perlbot to the webgui api to do the karma thing 23:50 < xdanger> MrHairgrease++ 23:51 <+MrHairgrease> xdanger++ 23:51 < preaction> oh, that's what you mean 23:51 <+MrHairgrease> yes 23:51 < xdanger> yey, a bot to play with! 23:51 < preaction> i think chris made a list karma site 23:51 < preaction> i want to know where the list factoids site is too 23:51 < ckotil> it'd be really cool to see page views and performance. in webgui 23:51 < xdanger> I should be reading for my exam =) 23:51 <+MrHairgrease> who's chris 23:51 < preaction> Chris62vw wrote perlbot 23:51 < preaction> perlbot author 23:51 <+MrHairgrease> oh 23:52 <+MrHairgrease> ic 23:52 < preaction> perlbot Chris62vw 23:52 < perlbot> my master 23:52 <+MrHairgrease> perlbot chris 23:52 < perlbot> Master of the universe! 23:52 <+MrHairgrease> heh 23:52 < preaction> and so modest too 23:52 <+MrHairgrease> well 23:52 <+MrHairgrease> more modest than I am 23:52 <+MrHairgrease> =) 23:52 < preaction> you claim time as your mistress? 23:53 < preaction> could you give me some more? i seem to lose large chunks of it to the support forums 23:54 <+MrHairgrease> not time 23:54 <+MrHairgrease> it must be that weidr 11th string theory dimesion 23:54 <+MrHairgrease> perlbot slap Mrhairgrease 23:54 * perlbot slaps Mrhairgrease around a bit with a large trout 23:55 <+MrHairgrease> that's better 23:56 < preaction> the one that ties all of creation together, the force, God, metaphysics, quantum theory, and good ol' Width/Depth/Height all in one? 23:58 <+MrHairgrease> yeah 23:58 <+MrHairgrease> that's it --- Day changed Thu Oct 26 2006 00:10 < ckotil> heh 00:17 -!- ckotil [n=newtrino@snare.grnoc.iu.edu] has quit ["leaving"] 00:19 -!- isaacfinnegan [n=isaac@207.66.131.242] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 01:56 -!- MrHairgrease [n=martin@x032124.its-s.tudelft.nl] has left #webgui [] 03:47 -!- Radix-wrk [n=Radix@203.161.68.67] has joined #webgui 03:54 -!- crythia1 [n=Gerald@c-68-51-234-189.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #webgui 03:54 -!- mode/#webgui [+v crythia1] by ChanServ 04:50 -!- Radix-Work [n=Radix@203.161.68.67] has joined #webgui 04:54 -!- Radix-wrk [n=Radix@203.161.68.67] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 07:02 -!- Radix-wrk [n=Radix@203.161.68.67] has joined #webgui 07:02 -!- Radix-wrk [n=Radix@203.161.68.67] has quit [Client Quit] 07:17 -!- Radix-Work [n=Radix@203.161.68.67] has quit ["Windows doesn't have users. 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