--- Log opened Wed Mar 01 00:00:17 2006 00:07 -!- pbmdawg [n=SysAdmin@CPE-65-31-211-163.kc.res.rr.com] has left #webgui [] 00:09 -!- crythias [n=gyoung@64.200.2.35] has left #webgui [] 02:30 -!- crythias [n=Gerald@c-69-139-51-253.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #webgui 02:43 -!- crythias [n=Gerald@c-69-139-51-253.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 02:49 -!- crythias [n=Gerald@c-69-139-51-253.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #webgui 04:53 -!- pbmdawg [n=SysAdmin@CPE-65-31-211-163.kc.res.rr.com] has joined #webgui 04:53 -!- pbmdawg [n=SysAdmin@CPE-65-31-211-163.kc.res.rr.com] has left #webgui [] 05:27 -!- crythias [n=Gerald@c-69-139-51-253.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 09:41 -!- chansen [n=chansen@h48n3c1o1099.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #WebGUI 15:48 -!- crythias [n=Gerald@c-69-139-51-253.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #webgui 15:49 < crythias> *yawn* 15:49 -!- crythias [n=Gerald@c-69-139-51-253.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has left #webgui [] 17:17 -!- crythias [n=gyoung@64.200.2.35] has joined #webgui 17:25 -!- MrHairgrease [n=martin@x032124.its-s.tudelft.nl] has joined #webgui 19:26 < crythias> would you try something for me? 19:26 < MrHairgrease> sure 19:26 < crythias> do you have a browser that you can use the links toolbar for? 19:27 < MrHairgrease> I don't even know what the links took bar is 19:27 < MrHairgrease> I only have ff 1.0.2 available right now 19:27 < crythias> ok. np. Actually, I gotta go to lunch. 19:27 < MrHairgrease> bon apetit 19:27 < crythias> check this out: http://www.gwy2.org/sbs/sbs.html?url=http://www.plainblack.com/discuss 19:27 <@WRE> http://tinyurl.com/jp65p 19:29 < MrHairgrease> what is it good for? 19:29 < crythias> tech support 19:29 < MrHairgrease> I can see its usefulness for that indeed 19:29 < crythias> I have a button that automatically adds google search to any page. 19:30 < MrHairgrease> how does it do that 19:30 < MrHairgrease> javascript? 19:30 < crythias> so, you just click the button for the page you're on, and you get full google search 19:30 < crythias> yeah 19:30 < crythias> and frames 19:30 < MrHairgrease> cool 19:30 < MrHairgrease> submit it 19:30 < crythias> I based it upon something like www.gahooyoogle.com 19:31 < crythias> I've always wanted an easy way to split a current page/screen 19:31 < crythias> and browser wasn't cutting it for me. 19:31 < MrHairgrease> yeah 19:31 < MrHairgrease> first useful use of frames i'v ever seen 19:31 < crythias> you're using firefox, right? 19:32 < MrHairgrease> yeah 19:32 < crythias> you have the "Recent Headlines" bar, right? 19:32 < MrHairgrease> could be 19:32 < crythias> unless you've customized it. 19:32 < MrHairgrease> never looked into the 'advanced' features 19:32 < MrHairgrease> If I can browse it ok 19:32 < crythias> "links" bar is just a list of one-click things, where the rss feeds go. 19:33 < MrHairgrease> oh and I use the webdevelopers toolbar 19:33 < MrHairgrease> Oh ok 19:33 < MrHairgrease> I never use rss feeds 21:32 < crythias> !seen pbmdawg 21:32 <@WRE> pbmdawg (n=SysAdmin@CPE-65-31-211-163.kc.res.rr.com) was last seen parting #WebGUI 16 hours, 38 minutes ago stating "{}". 21:38 < crythias> http://www.gwy2.org/sbs/sbsdrag.html 22:07 -!- MrHairgrease [n=martin@x032124.its-s.tudelft.nl] has left #webgui [] 23:08 -!- snapcount [n=roy@24.241.121.70.cfl.res.rr.com] has joined #webgui 23:09 -!- mode/#webgui [+o snapcount] by WRE 23:27 <@snapcount> so I installed base and snort on my gateway machine last night 23:27 <@snapcount> the internet is a dangerous place 23:27 <@snapcount> especially if you have MS-SQL 23:28 <@snapcount> I've had like 90 attempts by some MS-SQL worm 23:47 < crythias> people behind webgui? where? 23:49 -!- crythias [n=gyoung@64.200.2.35] has quit ["Download Gaim: http://gaim.sourceforge.net/"] 23:55 -!- chansen [n=chansen@h48n3c1o1099.bredband.skanova.com] has quit ["later dudes"] --- Day changed Thu Mar 02 2006 00:44 -!- crythias [n=Gerald@c-69-139-51-253.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #webgui 00:44 <@snapcount> YO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 00:44 <@snapcount> YO 00:44 < crythias> 'lo 00:44 <@snapcount> is a toy with string 00:44 -!- terje [n=joem@vampira.scare.org] has joined #webgui 00:45 < terje> greetings 00:45 < terje> I'm having some trouble getting webgui going. 00:45 <@snapcount> hi there 00:45 < terje> I think perhaps there's some problems w/ the sourc.e 00:45 <@snapcount> ooh boy 00:45 <@snapcount> what kind of problems 00:45 < crythias> nah. nothing wrong with webgui *stares at ceiling.* must be user error. :-P 00:46 < crythias> j/k 00:46 < crythias> O:-) 00:46 < terje> heh 00:47 < terje> I got the sarcasam 00:47 < terje> sarcasm, even. 00:47 < terje> ok, here goes. 00:47 < terje> [webgui@helo lib]$ perl -c WebGUI.pm 00:47 < terje> Variable "$parenthesis" is not imported at (re_eval 12) line 2. 00:47 < terje> Global symbol "$parenthesis" requires explicit package name at (re_eval 12) line 2. 00:47 < terje> Compilation failed in regexp at WebGUI/Macro.pm line 53. 00:47 < terje> Compilation failed in require at WebGUI.pm line 22. 00:47 < terje> BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at WebGUI.pm line 22. 00:47 < crythias> because you're using 5.5.8 00:47 < crythias> change our to my 00:47 < terje> is that all? 00:47 < crythias> could be. 00:47 <@snapcount> wow 00:47 <@snapcount> never met someone actually using 5 00:48 <@snapcount> that's kind of cool 00:48 < crythias> I've only answered this question 3 times in the past week 00:48 < terje> This is perl, v5.8.6 built for i386-linux-thread-multi 00:48 <@snapcount> oh 00:48 <@snapcount> lol 00:48 <@snapcount> guess I should pay more attention 00:48 < crythias> no. you wouldn't have known. 00:48 < crythias> :) 00:49 < terje> so, I'm still not quite clear.. 00:49 < crythias> Macro.pm 00:49 < terje> change 'our' to 'my' where exactly? 00:49 < terje> ah 00:49 * terje smacks forehead 00:49 < crythias> hee 00:49 < crythias> not only do I know. I can read minds :) 00:49 <@snapcount> ooh boy 00:50 <@snapcount> self mutilation 00:50 < crythias> and you're killing yourself starting on 5.5.8 00:50 * snapcount gets some popcorn 00:50 < crythias> just saying. 00:50 < crythias> might want to take a look at my FAQ while you're at it :) http://www.gwy2.org/cgi-bin/fom 00:50 <@snapcount> ya know, the proper thing to do in a situation like this... is to ask our president what to do... 00:51 <@snapcount> !dubya 00:51 <@WRE> "I will have a foreign-handed foreign policy." 00:51 <@snapcount> see, there's the answer 00:51 <@snapcount> you need a foreign handed foreign policy 00:51 < crythias> http://www.gwy2.org/pipermail/webgui/2006-March/000013.html 00:51 <@WRE> http://tinyurl.com/o5vmu 00:52 <@snapcount> !bofh 00:52 <@WRE> BOFH Quick-excuse: Sysadmin accidentally destroyed pager with a large hammer. 00:53 <@snapcount> boy, I'm in a mood today 00:53 < crythias> I guess :) 00:53 * snapcount slaps snapcount around a bit with a large trout 00:53 < crythias> terje :) I hope you aren't offended by my responses :) 00:53 <@snapcount> or mine 00:53 < terje> I'm not 00:53 <@snapcount> you can pipe me to /dev/null 00:53 < terje> but I'm not sure they're correct either. 00:54 < terje> #our $parenthesis = qr /\( # Start with '(', 00:54 < terje> my $parenthesis = qr /\( # Start with '(', 00:54 < terje> is that what your saying needs to be changed? 00:54 < crythias> and restart apache 00:54 < terje> ah 00:55 < terje> but that's not right either. 00:55 < crythias> *gasp* 00:55 < crythias> because now what? 00:55 < terje> heh 00:55 < crythias> different error? 00:55 < crythias> like... Gateway Interface not perl? 00:56 * snapcount observes Mr Crythias... (Miss Cleo's cousin) 00:56 < terje> well 00:56 < terje> how is restarting apache going ot affect a perl script I'm running from the command line I wonder? 00:57 < terje> effect, even :) 00:57 < crythias> beats me. what effect is it having? 00:57 < crythias> affect is verb, effect is noun. :) 00:57 < terje> heh 00:58 < terje> thanks for the correction. 00:58 < crythias> you were correct in your first instance. 00:58 < terje> I'm simply doing a perl -c on the Macro.pm module 00:58 < crythias> ah. 00:58 < crythias> good call, that. 00:58 <@snapcount> terje 2, crythias 1 00:58 < crythias> you're doing it with -I /path/to/WebGUI/lib 00:58 < terje> changing our $parenthesis to my $parenthesis doesn't fix the problem 00:59 < terje> negative, I'm not even there yet. 00:59 < crythias> hrm. 00:59 < terje> here's what I'm seeing after the change: 00:59 < terje> [webgui@helo lib]$ perl -c WebGUI/Macro.pm 00:59 < terje> Global symbol "$parenthesis" requires explicit package name at (re_eval 6) line 2. 00:59 < terje> Compilation failed in regexp at WebGUI/Macro.pm line 54. 01:00 < terje> ya dig? 01:00 < crythias> http://www.plainblack.com/downloads/builds/5.5.8/WebGUI/lib/WebGUI/Macro.pm 01:00 <@WRE> http://tinyurl.com/rbbwv 01:01 < crythias> that's your original 01:01 < crythias> http://www.plainblack.com/downloads/builds/6.2.11-gamma/WebGUI/lib/WebGUI/Macro.pm 01:01 < crythias> that's probably close enough to what it should be 01:01 -!- MrHairgrease [n=martin@x032124.its-s.tudelft.nl] has joined #webgui 01:01 <@snapcount> Martin! 01:02 <@snapcount> I checked out SQLForm 01:02 <@snapcount> nice job 01:02 < MrHairgrease> thanks 01:02 <@snapcount> JT IMs me, "look at this" 01:02 < terje> hurah[webgui@helo lib]$ perl -c WebGUI.pm 01:02 < terje> WebGUI.pm syntax OK 01:02 < terje> thanks crythias! 01:02 <@snapcount> so I look, and it's your form 01:03 < crythias> my form? 01:03 <@snapcount> then he's like "what do you think" 01:03 <@snapcount> no 01:03 <@snapcount> SQLForm demo 01:03 <@snapcount> so I play 01:03 <@snapcount> and I'm like 01:03 <@snapcount> this fucking rules 01:03 <@snapcount> so he asks, "should we put it in core" 01:03 <@snapcount> and I say, "does the code suck, can we maintain it" 01:03 <@snapcount> and he's like 01:03 <@snapcount> code looks good 01:04 <@snapcount> the rest is history 01:04 < crythias> I can't guarantee 6.2.11 macro.pm is drop-in for 5.5.8 Macro.pm, terje 01:04 * MrHairgrease remebers sombody stomping his feet on the floor: I want it now! I want it now! 01:04 < crythias> You should diff them just to be sure. 01:04 <@snapcount> hehe 01:04 < MrHairgrease> wtf!?! 01:04 < MrHairgrease> you doubted my code? 01:04 <@snapcount> I doubt everyones code 01:04 < MrHairgrease> you'd better 01:04 <@snapcount> until I see it 01:05 < MrHairgrease> anyway 01:05 < MrHairgrease> a more ego related quetion 01:05 < MrHairgrease> question* 01:05 < MrHairgrease> where's this interview with me? 01:05 < MrHairgrease> I can't find it on wg,org 01:05 <@snapcount> all over half the known world 01:05 < crythias> Yeah, roy, where's the people behind webgui? 01:05 <@snapcount> can you not see it 01:05 < crythias> um ... not 01:05 <@snapcount> uh oh 01:05 < MrHairgrease> not that I'm that curious 01:06 <@snapcount> prolly set to admins 01:06 <@snapcount> shiza 01:06 < MrHairgrease> I know the answers already anyway =) 01:08 < terje> so, I've got what I hope is one last question .. 01:08 < terje> does this command: 01:08 < terje> mysql -e "grant all privileges on WebGUI.* to webgui@localhost identified by 'password'" 01:08 < terje> actually create the account for user webgui in mysql? 01:09 < terje> or does it simply grant access to webgui and I have to create that user account somehow? 01:10 < MrHairgrease> it also creates the account 01:10 < MrHairgrease> well sorta 01:10 < MrHairgrease> what you did should work anyway 01:12 < terje> hmm 01:12 < terje> I can see the webgui user account in mysql.user but still can't login using the stuff I set. 01:13 < terje> werid. 01:13 < MrHairgrease> can you do this: 01:13 < MrHairgrease> mysql -uwebgui -p WebGUI 01:13 < MrHairgrease> If you can log in with that 01:13 < MrHairgrease> the db is configured properly 01:15 < MrHairgrease> also is the tablename correct? 01:15 < MrHairgrease> mysql is case sensitive 01:15 < MrHairgrease> so webgui != WebGUI 01:15 < terje> right, I've figured that out 01:15 < MrHairgrease> ok 01:15 < terje> checking.. 01:16 < terje> ERROR 1044 (42000): Access denied for user 'webgui'@'localhost' to database 'WebGUI' 01:16 <@snapcount> there you are 01:16 < MrHairgrease> hmm 01:16 <@snapcount> thanks for pointing out my boo-boo 01:16 < MrHairgrease> that sucks 01:16 < terje> I'll have to update my pass and see if that helps. 01:16 < MrHairgrease> did you enter your password correctly in the grant clause 01:16 < MrHairgrease> roy 01:16 < terje> well, I thought I did :) 01:16 < MrHairgrease> you don't suck 01:17 < terje> do you know how to update that password? 01:17 < MrHairgrease> just do the grant again 01:17 < terje> oh ok 01:17 < MrHairgrease> that should work 01:17 < MrHairgrease> i think' 01:17 < crythias> if you're in 5.5.8 you'll need to make certain your dbi is uptodate 01:18 * snapcount enjoys some little caesars pizza 01:18 <@snapcount> mmm cheese Martin 01:18 < crythias> because mysql uses a different password mechanism 01:18 * MrHairgrease pukes 01:18 < MrHairgrease> yeah sure 01:18 < MrHairgrease> but using the mysql client should work 01:18 < crythias> might need to store under old password 01:18 < MrHairgrease> so if he cannot log in using that 01:18 < MrHairgrease> it's something else 01:19 < terje> ok MrHairgrease, I thin I'm good. 01:19 < terje> thanks! 01:19 < MrHairgrease> np 01:19 < MrHairgrease> roy 01:19 < MrHairgrease> I'm watching myself on the internet 01:19 < MrHairgrease> thank man 01:20 <@snapcount> huh 01:20 < terje> btw, I like the term 'Linuxish' 01:20 < MrHairgrease> yeah 01:20 < MrHairgrease> probably to piss of osx users =) 01:21 < MrHairgrease> roy: the picture 01:21 <@snapcount> yes 01:21 <@snapcount> you're looking at it 01:21 <@snapcount> ? 01:21 < MrHairgrease> of course 01:21 < MrHairgrease> calc narcism 01:21 <@WRE> No calc set for "narcism" 01:21 < MrHairgrease> crap 01:21 < MrHairgrease> no luck this time =) 01:21 <@snapcount> calc urine 01:21 <@WRE> urine = Did you know that all humans can urinate through their navels? 01:21 < MrHairgrease> how can you do that while you're eating 01:22 <@snapcount> I'm done eating now 01:22 < MrHairgrease> matt's wife has an lasting impact on all of us 01:22 < MrHairgrease> i bet you are 01:22 <@snapcount> calc marriage 01:22 <@WRE> marriage = my sister just got engaged but you're already married... 01:22 <@snapcount> that's the best one ever 01:22 < MrHairgrease> lol 01:23 < MrHairgrease> matt indeed does have all the good ones 01:27 <@snapcount> Martin, isn't it like 3am where you are 01:27 < MrHairgrease> no 01:27 < terje> oh man 01:27 < MrHairgrease> it's about 5 01:27 < MrHairgrease> j/k 01:27 <@snapcount> in the morning!? 01:27 < MrHairgrease> it's 00:30ish 01:27 < terje> there are so many errors now when I hit it from a web browser 01:28 < terje> I can't believe this thing ever works. 01:28 <@snapcount> what "thing" 01:28 < terje> There's nothing about having writable permissions on different directories in the install file. 01:29 <@snapcount> the only dir that needs +w is uploads 01:29 < MrHairgrease> wg-root/www/uploads 01:30 < terje> WebGUI::Style::process('There is a syntax error in this template. Please correct.') called at /home/webgui/html/WebGUI/lib/WebGUI.pm line 43 01:30 <@snapcount> what? 01:30 < MrHairgrease> what version are you on? 01:30 < terje> and there's more.. 01:30 < terje> WebGUI::_generatePage('There is a syntax error in this template. Please correct.') called at /home/webgui/html/WebGUI/lib/WebGUI.pm line 167 01:30 < terje> WebGUI::page('/home/webgui/html/WebGUI', 'WebGUI.conf') called at /home/webgui/html/WebGUI/www/index.pl line 28 01:30 < terje> Where's the version number? 01:30 < MrHairgrease> did you run wg-root/sbin/testEnvironment.pl 01:30 < MrHairgrease> ? 01:31 < terje> yes, it run's fine. 01:31 < terje> Latest version ........................... You are using 6.1.1 and 6.8.7-gamma is available. 01:31 <@snapcount> at the top of WebGUI.pm 01:31 <@snapcount> whoa 01:31 < terje> is that my problem? 01:31 <@snapcount> holy hell man 01:31 < MrHairgrease> it's kinda ancient 01:31 <@snapcount> hard to say 01:31 <@snapcount> but that's really old 01:32 < MrHairgrease> you should try 6.7.x 01:32 < terje> with a name like -gamma I figured it was not ready for production. 01:32 <@snapcount> if you go past 6.7 you'll need MP2 01:32 < terje> MP2? 01:32 < terje> oh 01:32 <@snapcount> mod-perl2 01:32 < terje> mod_perl 01:32 < MrHairgrease> gamma = stable 01:32 < terje> yea, ok, so what version do you recommend then? 01:32 < MrHairgrease> only the api can change 01:32 < terje> i gotcha 01:32 <@snapcount> the latest 6.7 01:32 < MrHairgrease> what he says 01:32 < terje> cool, thanks for your patience guys. 01:33 <@snapcount> unless you want to reconfigure your environment 01:33 < terje> nah, lemme give that a shot. 01:33 < MrHairgrease> and compile stuff by hand 01:33 < terje> tomorrow! 01:33 < terje> I'm out for now. 01:33 < terje> thanks again. 01:33 <@snapcount> sure thing 01:33 <@snapcount> oy! 01:33 <@snapcount> oy! oy! 01:34 <@snapcount> !seen perlDreamer 01:34 <@snapcount> !lastSeen perlDreamer 01:34 <@snapcount> damn it 01:34 <@snapcount> can't remember cmds for my own bot 01:34 <@snapcount> !lastSpoke perlDreamer 01:35 * snapcount scratches his head with a stary gaze 01:35 < terje> has the database schema changed since 6.1.1 ? 01:35 < terje> should I just drop it and re-create it? 01:35 <@snapcount> oh yeah 01:36 < MrHairgrease> drop and re-recte 01:36 < terje> werd.. tomorrow then. 01:36 < terje> later. 01:37 < MrHairgrease> !seen perldreamer 01:37 < MrHairgrease> laters 01:38 <@snapcount> my seen script no workie 01:38 <@snapcount> or PEBCAK 01:38 < MrHairgrease> not me 01:38 <@snapcount> !lastSpoke crythias 01:38 <@WRE> crythias last uttered a word on #webgui 20 minutes ago. 01:38 <@snapcount> !last perlDreamer 01:38 < MrHairgrease> I saw crythias do a seen command on matt 01:39 <@snapcount> !lastSeen perlDreamer 01:39 < MrHairgrease> it should be !seen 01:39 <@snapcount> !seen fucker 01:39 <@WRE> snapcount, I don't remember seeing fucker. 01:39 <@snapcount> hey 01:39 <@snapcount> !seen perlDreamer 01:39 < MrHairgrease> !seen a threeheaded monkey 01:39 <@WRE> MrHairgrease, I don't remember seeing a. 01:39 < MrHairgrease> that's a shame 01:39 <@snapcount> so it works for people that don't exist 01:39 <@snapcount> nice 01:39 < MrHairgrease> !seen pbmdawg 01:39 <@WRE> pbmdawg (n=SysAdmin@CPE-65-31-211-163.kc.res.rr.com) was last seen parting #WebGUI 20 hours, 46 minutes ago stating "{}". 01:40 <@snapcount> oh I know why 01:40 < MrHairgrease> !seen mrhairgrease 01:40 <@WRE> MrHairgrease, go look in a mirror. 01:40 < MrHairgrease> heh 01:40 <@snapcount> haha 01:40 <@snapcount> tis b/c the bot knows you guys 01:40 * MrHairgrease click on that beautiful picture again 01:40 <@snapcount> it won't track ppl he don't knoweth 01:40 < MrHairgrease> a waste it iseth 01:41 <@snapcount> I'll have to introduce them 01:41 < MrHairgrease> you do that 01:52 < crythias> !seen a_three-toed_sloth 01:52 < MrHairgrease> later guys 01:52 < crythias> I'm ignored by wre 01:52 < crythias> hah 01:53 < MrHairgrease> quit 01:53 -!- MrHairgrease [n=martin@x032124.its-s.tudelft.nl] has quit ["Download Gaim: http://gaim.sourceforge.net/"] 01:55 <@snapcount> do you know anything about eggdrop crythias 01:55 < crythias> makes great soup 01:55 <@snapcount> aside from that? 01:56 < crythias> sorry. no. :( At last you have come upon the limits of my knowledge :) 01:56 <@snapcount> oh 01:58 <@snapcount> you should read up on it 01:59 <@snapcount> I'll give you access to the party line 01:59 <@snapcount> give you more privs 01:59 <@snapcount> fun stuff 02:05 < crythias> heh $7 alcy free beers 02:10 <@snapcount> I found that funny as well 02:19 < crythias> SideBy Google is my new fried. 02:19 < crythias> friend. 05:51 -!- crythias [n=Gerald@c-69-139-51-253.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit ["Leaving."] 15:15 -!- crythias [n=Gerald@c-69-139-51-253.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #webgui 16:26 -!- crythias [n=Gerald@c-69-139-51-253.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 16:49 -!- nbcccor1 [i=fwuser@rrcs-24-172-2-202.midsouth.biz.rr.com] has joined #webgui 16:50 < nbcccor1> hey, do any of you have any experience running Jabber or any other IM server? 16:54 <@snapcount> I logged into a jabber server yesterday 16:54 <@snapcount> does that count? 16:59 -!- chansen [n=chansen@h48n3c1o1099.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #WebGUI 17:08 -!- crythias [n=Gerald@c-69-139-51-253.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #webgui 17:09 -!- crythia1 [n=Gerald@c-69-139-51-253.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #webgui 17:09 -!- crythias [n=Gerald@c-69-139-51-253.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 17:20 -!- crythia1 [n=Gerald@c-69-139-51-253.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit ["Leaving."] 17:26 -!- nbcccor1 [i=fwuser@rrcs-24-172-2-202.midsouth.biz.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 17:27 -!- nbcccor2 [i=fwuser@rrcs-24-172-2-202.midsouth.biz.rr.com] has joined #webgui 17:27 < nbcccor2> not really. 17:27 <@snapcount> I figured 17:27 < nbcccor2> is my name showing as nbcccor2? 17:27 <@snapcount> yep 17:27 <@snapcount> <-- look here 17:27 <@snapcount> =) 17:28 < nbcccor2> it seems that gaim has some form of "undocumented learning opportunity". 17:28 < nbcccor2> because it increments that number when I re-open the chat window. 17:28 -!- nbcccor2 [i=fwuser@rrcs-24-172-2-202.midsouth.biz.rr.com] has left #webgui [] 17:28 -!- nbcccor2 [i=fwuser@rrcs-24-172-2-202.midsouth.biz.rr.com] has joined #webgui 17:28 < nbcccor2> my name should be nbcccorp 17:29 <@snapcount> can you issue commands? 17:29 <@snapcount> ie /stuff 17:29 < nbcccor2> yeah but nobody listens. 17:29 <@snapcount> try /nick dr_evil 17:30 -!- snapcount is now known as osama 17:30 -!- nbcccor2 is now known as dr_evi1 17:30 < dr_evi1> wow 17:30 < dr_evi1> it's changing the last char to a number 17:30 -!- osama is now known as dumb3y 17:30 -!- dr_evi1 is now known as abcdef 17:30 -!- dumb3y is now known as snapcount 17:30 -!- abcdef is now known as nbcccor1 17:31 <@snapcount> that's weird 17:31 < nbcccor1> I agree 17:31 <@snapcount> I have 0 bytes of knowledge re: gaim 17:31 <@snapcount> not even a bit 17:31 * snapcount slaps knee 17:32 < nbcccor1> hee 17:32 <@snapcount> grep snapcount > /dev/null 2>/dev/null 17:32 < nbcccor1> and to think, other people actually PAY for comedy 17:33 <@snapcount> don't forget the 2 17:33 <@snapcount> most of my output goes to STDERR 17:33 < nbcccor1> oh... so your married. 17:33 <@snapcount> no 17:33 <@snapcount> but that's funny 17:33 <@snapcount> lol 17:56 -!- Grobbebol [n=marc@host1.procolix.nl] has joined #webgui 17:57 -!- Grobbebol [n=marc@host1.procolix.nl] has left #webgui [] 17:58 -!- Grobbebol [n=marc@host1.procolix.nl] has joined #webgui 17:59 -!- Grobbebol [n=marc@host1.procolix.nl] has left #webgui [] 17:59 -!- Grobbebol [n=marc@host1.procolix.nl] has joined #webgui 18:15 -!- pbmdawg [n=SysAdmin@CPE-65-31-211-163.kc.res.rr.com] has joined #webgui 19:05 < terje> hi guys, I'm back. 19:05 < terje> having much success with the later version. 19:06 < terje> I think I'm having trouble getting my dsn right in the config file. 19:06 < terje> does this look right: dsn = DBI:mysql:host=localhost 19:08 -!- crythias [n=gyoung@64.200.2.35] has joined #webgui 19:08 < terje> eh, that's not what I meant. 19:11 < terje> ok, so I have the DSN right I think.. 19:11 < terje> but I'm getting this error: 19:12 < terje> Can't connect to data source , no database driver specified and DBI_DSN env var not set at /home/webgui/html/WebGUI/lib/WebGUI/Session.pm line 313 19:12 < terje> from my browser.. 19:12 < terje> any ideas? 19:12 < crythias> yeah. check preload.perl 19:12 < terje> cool, thanks. 19:12 < crythias> make sure it knows data dir of webgui 19:22 < crythias> Matt! 19:29 -!- nbcccor1 [i=fwuser@rrcs-24-172-2-202.midsouth.biz.rr.com] has left #webgui [] 19:34 < terje> ok 19:34 < terje> that was an issue.. 19:35 < terje> and I've fixed it.. and restart apache.. same error msg. 19:35 < terje> when apache starts it tells me it's loading WebGUI and the correct config file, etc. 19:35 < terje> not sure where to check next. 19:36 < crythias> like I'm telling someone else, you're going to absolutely hate yourself when 7 comes out. 19:37 < terje> lol 19:37 < crythias> because all this problem with 5.5.8... you're going to have to go through about 5 upgrades to get to 7. 19:37 < terje> I consider myself a pretty savy linux admin 19:37 < terje> dude, I'll just reinstall from scratch. 19:37 < crythias> hee 19:37 < crythias> That's funny. 19:38 < terje> that's just how I roll. 19:38 < terje> =) 19:38 < terje> so any more suggestions as to the cause and solution to, my problem? 19:38 < terje> brb, need coffee. 19:39 < crythias> if you can use mysql -u user -p password database and connect with the values in your webgui.conf... 19:40 < crythias> that helps. 19:40 < crythias> but I'm reasonably certain that your problem is related to DBI-mysql not matching mysql 4.1+ 19:44 < terje> I can connect using mysql -u ... database 19:44 < terje> let's check the DBI-mysql version, thanks. 19:50 < terje> is there a really simply test.pl I can do to see if that's the issue? 20:11 < terje> hmm.. 20:12 < terje> well I have a test script that uses DBI and I can connect to the WebGUI DB just fine. 20:12 * terje scratches head 20:19 < terje> do I need to modify this in www/index.pl 20:19 < terje> $configFile = "WebGUI.conf"; 20:19 < terje> to match the config file I created? 20:20 < pbmdawg> yes 20:37 < terje> ok, I'm pretty close now. 20:37 < terje> =) 20:45 < terje> dang man 20:45 < terje> so close yet so far. 20:46 < terje> I know I'm being needy 20:46 < terje> here's what I'm getting now.. 20:46 < terje> if I perl www/index.pl - works great 20:46 < terje> if I 20:46 < terje> [webgui@helo etc]$ GET http://webgui/WebGUI/www/index.pl 20:46 < terje> 500 Server closed connection without sending any data back 20:46 < terje> and the error in my log file is 20:46 < terje> failed to resolve handler WebGUI 20:47 < terje> I've checked my virtual host container and it seems to match the install document's instructions. 20:54 < pbmdawg> which install document are you using 20:54 < terje> http://www.plainblack.com/installing_webgui 20:54 <@WRE> http://tinyurl.com/4baaa 20:56 < terje> I think it's got something to do w/ PerlInitHandler WebGUI 20:57 < pbmdawg> yeah. 20:57 < pbmdawg> in your preload.perl 20:58 < pbmdawg> does it use the path that WebGUI.pm is in? 20:59 < terje> I believe so 20:59 < terje> it's set to 20:59 < terje> $webguiRoot = "/home/webgui/html/WebGUI"; 20:59 < pbmdawg> but does it "use" that path 20:59 < pbmdawg> err 20:59 < terje> shoudl that be /home/webgui/html/WebGUI/lib ? 20:59 < pbmdawg> possibly 21:00 < pbmdawg> I don't know where you put your lib files 21:00 < terje> ok 21:00 < pbmdawg> wait 21:00 < pbmdawg> no 21:00 < pbmdawg> what are the files/dirs under /home/webgui/html/ 21:00 < terje> just WebGUI 21:01 < pbmdawg> What's under that dir 21:01 < terje> docs etc lib sbin test.pl www 21:01 < pbmdawg> ok 21:01 < pbmdawg> in your apache.conf 21:01 < pbmdawg> PerlRequire /data/WebGUI/sbin/preload.perl 21:01 < pbmdawg> do you have that above your vhost? 21:02 < terje> [webgui@helo WebGUI]$ grep PerlRequire /etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf 21:02 < terje> PerlRequire /home/webgui/html/WebGUI/sbin/preload.perl 21:02 < pbmdawg> and it's above the vhost? 21:07 < pbmdawg> above the virtual host in the conf file, I mean 21:08 < pbmdawg> and what is PerlSetVar WebguiRoot set to 21:12 < terje> actually it's not. 21:12 < terje> that is, it's not in the vhost container 21:12 < terje> but the instructions don't say to put one in there. 21:12 < pbmdawg> I was asking it if was above the vhost, not in it 21:12 < terje> oh 21:12 < terje> yes, it's above the vhost 21:13 < terje> way above the vhost though 21:13 < terje> near the load module section 21:13 < terje> I'll move it down. 21:13 < pbmdawg> what about the PerlSetVar 21:14 < terje> PerlSetVar is set to the name of my config file in etc/ 21:14 < pbmdawg> that's in the vhost, right? 21:14 < pbmdawg> I mean the PerlSetVar WebguiRoot 21:15 < terje> yes 21:15 < pbmdawg> what's WebguiRoot set to (above the vhost) 21:16 < terje> PerlSetVar WebguiRoot /home/webgui/html/WebGUI 21:16 < pbmdawg> hrm 21:27 < pbmdawg> Apache can't find WebGUI.pm 21:28 < pbmdawg> but it should be able to find it if preload.perl is being loaded successfully 21:28 < pbmdawg> this is 6.8.7, right? 21:55 <@snapcount> wow 21:55 <@snapcount> looks like you guys are having a blast 21:57 <@snapcount> I love it when clients cancel login support requests 21:57 <@snapcount> it's like an early birthday present 22:37 < crythias> can't use installing_webgui for 558 22:37 < crythias> read the docs in docs 22:43 <@snapcount> my god, I can't believe it 22:43 < pbmdawg> ? 22:43 <@snapcount> I actually have time to write code now! 22:43 <@snapcount> yipee 22:43 * snapcount switches back to head 22:44 <@snapcount> someone cue up the KnightRider theme song 22:44 <@snapcount> "hello, michael" 22:44 < crythias> ... a man who does not exist. 22:45 <@snapcount> I never did get the physics behind him driving the car onto the semi 22:45 <@snapcount> but I guess they are both going about the same speed 22:47 <@snapcount> for some reason it would seem to me that upon entry into the trailer the do vectors would combine and he would drive into the cab at 60mph 22:47 <@snapcount> s/do/two 22:47 < crythias> http://web.archive.org/web/20050401071703/http://www.plainblack.com/installing_webgui 22:47 <@WRE> http://tinyurl.com/rcbyt 22:47 < pbmdawg> no 22:47 < crythias> what? 22:47 <@snapcount> maybe 22:48 <@snapcount> yes 22:48 <@snapcount> sometimes 22:48 < crythias> perhaps 22:48 <@snapcount> possibly 22:48 <@snapcount> pbmdawg: what are you no'ing about 22:48 < pbmdawg> as long as the firebird is rear wheel drive, he can drive up the semi ramp; he just has to put the car out of gear before the rear wheels touch the ramp 22:48 * crythias gazes into the 8 ball: 8-ball: Um. Why bother asking me? I'm not sentient. 22:49 <@snapcount> yes, but if the tires hit the ramp 22:49 <@snapcount> I am correct? 22:49 < pbmdawg> no 22:49 < crythias> front wheel drive shouldn't be a problem. 22:50 < crythias> not if brakes function, anyway. 22:50 <@snapcount> 60 -> 0 in 52 ft 22:50 <@snapcount> good breaks 22:50 <@snapcount> and that's a big trailer 22:50 <@snapcount> and a perfect reaction time 22:50 <@snapcount> I say he parks it in the cab 22:51 < crythias> While rear wheels are on the ground, car moves at car rate or drag rate. 22:51 < crythias> vectors are in the same direction, anyway. 22:52 <@snapcount> ok 22:52 <@snapcount> so riddle me this 22:52 <@snapcount> you drop a baseball into a pitching machine 22:52 <@snapcount> what's the difference 22:52 < crythias> acceleration 22:52 <@snapcount> ok 22:52 <@snapcount> so put the pitching machine in a truck 22:52 < pbmdawg> he's not going from 60 to 0 22:52 < pbmdawg> he's going from 60 to 55 22:53 < pbmdawg> if the truck is at 55 22:53 <@snapcount> good call 22:53 < pbmdawg> only the wheels have to slow down their rotation. 22:53 < pbmdawg> which is why he must push in the clutch 22:53 < crythias> http://www.madsci.org/posts/archives/dec96/849218944.Ph.r.html 22:53 < pbmdawg> or else break his transmission 22:53 <@WRE> http://tinyurl.com/ockqu 22:53 <@snapcount> we need to do an experiment 22:53 <@snapcount> sounds like a job for the myth busters! 22:54 < pbmdawg> that post is totally wrong 22:56 < crythias> because? 22:57 < crythias> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/browse_frm/thread/fa4309fe4d736015/a06b000140c520ee?tvc=1&q=knight+rider+car+semi&hl=en#a06b000140c520ee 22:57 <@snapcount> sounds right to me 22:57 <@WRE> http://tinyurl.com/mdte2 22:58 < crythias> the car is going 5 mph faster than the semi relative to road 22:58 < pbmdawg> the wheels have to slow down from 60mph to 5mph 22:58 < pbmdawg> but that happens all the time, with good brakes. 22:59 < pbmdawg> you can easily lock your tires while travelling at 60 22:59 < pbmdawg> if you don't have ABS 22:59 < pbmdawg> so that's not an issue 22:59 <@snapcount> but you have 50 ft 22:59 <@snapcount> tops 22:59 < pbmdawg> what is an issue is if the car has *enough* inertia to get up the ramp 23:00 <@snapcount> but relative to the road matters not 23:00 <@snapcount> once the car is traveling 50 inside the semi 23:01 <@snapcount> then it's car relative to semi 23:01 * snapcount phones Adam Savage 23:01 <@snapcount> "we need a semi and knight rider... yes, we need them now" 23:02 <@snapcount> that would be a good episode 23:03 < pbmdawg> actually the 2nd half of that post is correct 23:03 < crythias> KNIGHT INDUSTRIES TWO THOUSAND 23:03 < crythias> ------------------------------ 23:03 < crythias> VEHICLE TYPE:  Front engine, rear wheel drive, two           23:03 < crythias>                passenger, two door coupe             23:03 < crythias> from official faq 23:04 * pbmdawg gets back to work 23:10 * pbmdawg excuses himself to barf 23:14 * snapcount fires up vmare and dreams of 7.0 23:15 < pbmdawg> I'm almost done with my vmware appliance: WebGUIdev 23:15 <@snapcount> excelllent 23:15 <@snapcount> what is a vmware appliance? 23:15 < pbmdawg> 330MB compressed 23:15 <@snapcount> gimmie a link 23:15 < pbmdawg> http://www.vmware.com/vmtn/appliances/challenge/ 23:15 <@WRE> http://tinyurl.com/qmd3g 23:15 <@snapcount> hey you guys want to hear a joke 23:16 <@snapcount> why are redneck murders so hard to solve? 23:16 <@snapcount> because there are usually no teeth and all the dna is the same 23:16 * snapcount slaps his knee and chuckles 23:17 < pbmdawg> I'm also making a firewall appliance and an email filtering appliance 23:30 < crythias> Knight Rider, a shadowy flight into the dangerous world of a man who does not exist. Michael Knight, a young loner on a crusade to champion the cause of the innocent, the helpless, the powerless in a world of criminals who operate above the law. 23:31 <@snapcount> don't forget the cousin of knight rider 23:31 <@snapcount> and possibly an even better show 23:31 <@snapcount> same time period 23:31 <@snapcount> any guesses? 23:31 < pbmdawg> voltron? 23:32 < crythias> street hawk 23:32 < pbmdawg> Airwolf 23:32 <@snapcount> ding ding ding 23:32 <@snapcount> Airwolf was the shiznet 23:32 < crythias> awe 23:32 < crythias> Street Hawk was cool 23:32 <@snapcount> voltron was also a good guess 23:32 < crythias> A-Team 23:32 <@snapcount> yes 23:33 < crythias> Blue Thunder 23:33 <@snapcount> you need to leave now 23:33 < pbmdawg> Matlock 23:33 < crythias> Powers of Matthew Star 23:33 < crythias> rr 23:33 < pbmdawg> Miami Vice 23:33 < crythias> Starman 23:33 <@snapcount> ooh ooh 23:33 < pbmdawg> Magnum PI 23:33 <@snapcount> speaking of rr 23:33 <@snapcount> we're getting bumped up tonight 23:33 < crythias> The Greatest American Hero 23:33 <@snapcount> more speed 23:34 < pbmdawg> ? 23:34 <@snapcount> if I pay them $$ I can get 10Mbps 23:34 < pbmdawg> heh 23:34 <@snapcount> everyone is getting 7Mbps as the std package 23:34 * pbmdawg has GigE metropolitan-area-network connection 23:34 < pbmdawg> (in his dreams) 23:35 <@snapcount> shit... I think my dog is on catnip again 23:35 * pbmdawg runs off to import some phone extensions. 23:35 * crythias sits on his OC48 pipe. awe, yeah. 23:35 <@snapcount> that's a big pipe 23:35 <@snapcount> my sb server had oc48 23:35 < crythias> smoke em if you got em 23:35 <@snapcount> It's gone as of today 23:36 <@snapcount> sniffle 23:36 < pbmdawg> mine is live for another few weeks. 23:37 < pbmdawg> my 1 remaining out of the 4, I mean. 23:37 < crythias> snapcount's KR problem has the car going 120mph.. the other views are that KR stalls 23:37 < pbmdawg> My view is that KR stalls or the transmission breaks; one of those :) 23:37 <@snapcount> yes but that is due to limitations of the carr 23:38 <@snapcount> if the car could take it, caterus parebus, the semi-drive would have a firebird up his ass asking for Micahael 23:38 < crythias> Manual transmission is great: drop clutch. 23:39 < crythias> ok. what if instead there was a wench pulling the car up? 23:40 < crythias> not that this is the case.. 23:40 <@snapcount> that would be fine 23:40 < crythias> how fast would the wench be pulling the car? 23:40 <@snapcount> relative to? 23:40 < crythias> the ground 23:41 < pbmdawg> yeah, I think that realistically, it would need something to pull it up, unless he approaches the semi in 2nd gear, but puts it in gear as soon as the rear wheels slow down to carVsRamp speed 23:41 <@snapcount> wench speed + semi speed 23:41 <@snapcount> and as soon as the car is on semi entirely 23:42 <@snapcount> just the wench speed 23:42 < crythias> what's the difference between wench pulling and car driving? 23:42 <@snapcount> the wench is attached to the truck 23:42 < pbmdawg> BWAHAHA 23:42 < pbmdawg> calc wench a young girl 23:42 < pbmdawg> calc winch a motorized cable-puller 23:42 < crythias> Depends on your characterization of Bonnie, I guess :) 23:43 < pbmdawg> calc wench 23:43 <@WRE> wench = a young girl 23:43 < crythias> hee 23:44 < crythias> oops. 23:44 < crythias> btw. gotta go. Be for my son's birthday 23:44 <@snapcount> did you guys hear the one about the pirate who walked into the bar with a steering wheel sticking out of his crotch? 23:44 < pbmdawg> he needed someone to turn hiim on? 23:44 <@snapcount> bartender: wtf is that? a steering wheel? 23:44 < crythias> on Robot Chicken. 23:45 <@snapcount> pirate: yarrr, tis drivin' me nuts 23:45 < crythias> What does Soylent Green taste like? Varies from person to person. 23:47 < crythias> l8rness 23:47 -!- crythias [n=gyoung@64.200.2.35] has quit ["Download Gaim: http://gaim.sourceforge.net/"] 23:48 <@snapcount> whoa 23:48 <@snapcount> all of the admin bars in head are empty --- Day changed Fri Mar 03 2006 00:13 < pbmdawg> /Roy empties the bars 00:14 <@snapcount> heh 00:15 <@snapcount> JT forgot to commit the new template 00:15 <@snapcount> hey I got this vmware img from you 00:15 <@snapcount> if you run setenvironment in /data/wre/etc 00:15 <@snapcount> and try to use svn 00:15 <@snapcount> does it puke? 00:15 < pbmdawg> huh 00:16 <@snapcount> on your cent-os vmware image 00:16 < pbmdawg> I didn't give you an image 00:16 < pbmdawg> you made it 00:16 <@snapcount> no I didn't 00:16 <@snapcount> I got it from you at JT's 00:16 <@snapcount> I copied it from your computer 00:16 < pbmdawg> I didn't think so 00:17 < pbmdawg> it uses my passwords 00:17 < pbmdawg> and I wouldn't have givne you my passwords 00:17 <@snapcount> maybe it's jt's image 00:17 <@snapcount> cuz it's using pb passwords 00:17 <@snapcount> anyways 00:17 <@snapcount> try running /data/wre/sbin/setenvironment 00:17 <@snapcount> then using svn 00:18 <@snapcount> it's fucking annoying b/c i have to open a new shell that's not using wre env vars to use svn 00:19 <@snapcount> linkin park is so great 00:26 <@snapcount> dedede 00:26 <@snapcount> ...I'm in love wit a strippa 00:26 <@snapcount> drop it low 00:58 < terje> eh, I'm back again 00:59 < terje> but it should be able to find it if preload.perl is being loaded successfully 00:59 < terje> yes, preload.perl is being found correctly 00:59 < terje> and it's able to load WebGUI.pm 01:00 < terje> [webgui@helo WebGUI]$ perl -c sbin/preload.perl 01:00 < terje> sbin/preload.perl syntax OK 01:00 < terje> so if anyone has any ideas, I'm all ears. 01:00 < terje> I'll keep fiddling w/ it. 01:00 <@snapcount> http://www.local6.com/news/7543710/detail.html 01:00 <@WRE> http://tinyurl.com/gp7ez 01:01 < pbmdawg> terje 01:01 < terje> yo 01:01 < pbmdawg> you cannot use those intall instructions you are using with webgui 5.5.8 01:01 < pbmdawg> those are for 6.8+ 01:01 < terje> no, I'm not using 5.5.8 01:01 < pbmdawg> oh; what version 01:01 < terje> I'm using 6.7-gammaa 01:01 < pbmdawg> can't use those install instructions with 6.7 01:02 < terje> oh really? 01:02 < pbmdawg> yes really 01:02 < terje> the install.txt file says to use those.. 01:02 < terje> What is the current stable version? 01:02 < pbmdawg> 6.8.7 01:03 < terje> alrighty. 01:03 < terje> I'm starting over with that src. 01:03 < terje> thanks. 01:03 < pbmdawg> you don't need to start over 01:03 < pbmdawg> just delete the /WebGUI dir and copy 6.8.7 there 01:03 < pbmdawg> the rest of your setup is fine 01:04 < pbmdawg> you don't need index.pl in 6.8, btw' 01:04 < terje> ok 01:07 < pbmdawg> then of course load the new create.sql 01:08 < terje> k 01:13 < terje> this is going much more smoothly :P 01:15 <@snapcount> mmm smoothies 01:17 < pbmdawg> well I either found a bug in Data::Dumper or something else is seriously wrong 01:17 < pbmdawg> $VAR1 = [ 01:17 < pbmdawg> 'userId', 01:17 < pbmdawg> ' 'internalExtension 01:17 < pbmdawg> ]; 01:18 <@snapcount> heh 01:18 < pbmdawg> but the bad part is 01:18 < pbmdawg> foreach (@$VAR1) { print $_ } 01:18 < pbmdawg> only returns 'userId' 01:19 <@snapcount> does it do if you use something besides the default var 01:19 < pbmdawg> same 01:19 <@snapcount> foreach my $var (@$VAR1) { print $var } 01:19 < pbmdawg> same 01:20 <@snapcount> what is $VAR1 01:20 <@snapcount> hash ref 01:20 < pbmdawg> array ref 01:20 <@snapcount> with one element 01:20 < pbmdawg> 2 01:20 <@snapcount> what are the elements, scalars? 01:20 < pbmdawg> yes 01:20 < pbmdawg> supposed to be userId and internalExtension 01:20 <@snapcount> that's a pretty simple structure 01:21 < pbmdawg> you'd think. 01:21 <@snapcount> so dumper is reporting data that doesn't exist in the array? 01:21 < pbmdawg> dumper is reporting data that is supposed to exist 01:21 < pbmdawg> but that doesn't exist when I do foreach 01:22 < pbmdawg> but dumper has that apostrophe in a weird place 01:22 <@snapcount> and why is that a data dumper problem? 01:22 <@snapcount> ahh 01:22 <@snapcount> I see that now 01:22 <@snapcount> I bet your structure is fucked up 01:22 <@snapcount> how is that array ref built 01:23 < pbmdawg> badly/wrongly, probably. 01:23 <@snapcount> thats a lot of *ly's 01:23 <@snapcount> !bash 01:23 <@WRE> |bash 76905| he was right, our mom is a weirdo...I went to go play laser tag, and I didn't tell her where I was going...and when I walked in just now she fucking assaulted my ass...with fists 01:23 <@WRE> |bash 76905| then she threw a book at me 0_o 01:23 <@WRE> |bash 76905| <_seb_> damn man she anally fisted you? 01:23 <@WRE> |bash 76905| <_seb_> that sucks 01:23 <@WRE> |bash 76905| <_seb_> must have hurt 01:24 <@snapcount> that's rather disturbing 01:25 <@snapcount> dude 01:25 <@snapcount> someone broke my shiznet 01:25 <@snapcount> Couldn't call method addToCart on asset for url: home/untitled Root cause: Can't locate object method "user" via package "Asset_EventManagementSystem" (perhaps you forgot to load "Asset_EventManagementSystem"?) at /data/WebGUI/lib/WebGUI/International.pm line 78. 01:25 <@snapcount> what. the. hell. 01:25 * snapcount get's out the light saber 01:26 < pbmdawg> hum 01:26 < pbmdawg> that might be a bug in perl 01:26 < pbmdawg> I changed it to use push 01:26 < pbmdawg> and it started working correctly 01:26 <@snapcount> ah ssss push it, push it real good 01:27 < pbmdawg> mruhaha. it is a bug in perl 01:27 <@snapcount> are you using version 2 01:27 <@snapcount> I need to get some new 'shoes' for my ride 01:28 < pbmdawg> if you put a scalar with an LF as the last char of the scalar into an array, that item in the array is ignored and read incorrectly. 01:28 <@snapcount> did you write a simple script to dup it 01:28 <@snapcount> outside of wg 01:28 < pbmdawg> no but I can 01:28 <@snapcount> I would 01:29 < pbmdawg> this is a script that's not in wg 01:29 <@snapcount> the simple part is the important part 01:29 < pbmdawg> this stuff happens before a wg session is even created. 01:30 <@snapcount> no perl developer is going to look into this unless you can dup it with like two lines of code 01:30 < pbmdawg> I know 01:30 <@snapcount> that would be pretty sweet if you found a bug in perl 01:30 <@snapcount> pbmdawg++ 01:31 < pbmdawg> buffer overflow here we come 01:31 < terje> so I've installed mod_perl as an RPM on FC4 but the perl modules are asking for it's src.. and apache's src code. 01:31 < pbmdawg> roy can you help terje 01:31 < terje> this has been a rough exercise for poor terje. 01:31 <@snapcount> why don't you just use the wre 01:31 <@snapcount> it's much easier 01:31 < terje> I guess because I don't know what that is. 01:31 < terje> :( 01:31 <@snapcount> all of this stuff is already compiled for you 01:32 <@snapcount> oh 01:32 <@snapcount> shiza 01:32 <@snapcount> calc wre 01:32 <@WRE> wre = WebGUI Runtime Environment 01:32 <@snapcount> it has all this crap pre-compiled and configured 01:32 < terje> lordy 01:32 <@snapcount> it's on sf.net 01:32 * terje googles WebGUI Runtime Environment 01:32 < terje> is there an FC4 version? 01:32 <@snapcount> www.sf.net/projects/pbwebgui 01:33 <@snapcount> there's an fc version that will get you close enough 01:33 <@snapcount> you want 0.6.x 01:33 <@snapcount> for WG versions 6.8.+ 01:33 <@snapcount> download the source 01:33 <@snapcount> and the prereqs tarball 01:33 <@snapcount> actually 01:34 <@snapcount> you don't even need those 01:34 <@snapcount> that's only if you want to compile yourself 01:34 <@snapcount> sigh 01:34 <@snapcount> I'll go look 01:34 * pbmdawg pokes roy for giving bad advice 01:34 <@snapcount> and stop being lazy 01:34 < terje> http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=51417&package_id=148913 01:34 <@WRE> http://tinyurl.com/rtvl4 01:35 <@snapcount> try the one for rhel4 01:35 <@snapcount> that should work fine 01:36 <@snapcount> I need to setup an FC server and make a wre binary for it 01:37 <@snapcount> If I could only do it without having to do anything... 01:37 * snapcount ponders 01:37 < terje> lol 01:37 < terje> use my machine 01:37 < terje> you can install it for me while you're at it. 01:37 < terje> I've been at this 2 days now. 01:37 <@snapcount> heh 01:37 < terje> :( 01:37 < pbmdawg> roy: not a bad idea 01:37 <@snapcount> yeah 01:37 < pbmdawg> I have all the fc4 cds downloaded so I could do it in a vm 01:37 < pbmdawg> but not tonight 01:37 <@snapcount> I'm sure that one would go over great with the HNIC 01:38 < pbmdawg> terje: do you have all the latest patches 01:38 < terje> OS patches? 01:39 < pbmdawg> yeah 01:39 < terje> yes 01:39 < terje> but this system is a mess now 01:39 < pbmdawg> FC4 has been for what, 9 months? 01:39 < pbmdawg> out 01:39 < pbmdawg> 1 year? 01:39 <@snapcount> abort 01:39 <@snapcount> abort 01:39 < terje> I think longer 01:40 < terje> yea, I think I'll reinstall the OS before trying this 01:40 < terje> there's all kinds of perl mods and packages I probably don't need (from webgui 6.1.1) 01:40 -!- pbmdawg [n=SysAdmin@CPE-65-31-211-163.kc.res.rr.com] has left #webgui [] 01:40 <@snapcount> terje: here's the deal 01:40 <@snapcount> that binary sucketh 01:40 <@snapcount> and won't work on FC4 01:41 <@snapcount> however 01:41 <@snapcount> I have good news 01:41 <@snapcount> you can compile it all yourself 01:41 < terje> i could use some 01:41 <@snapcount> and it will work fine 01:41 < terje> dude 01:41 <@snapcount> all the shit you need 01:41 <@snapcount> is in the package 01:41 < terje> there's a ridiculous amound of dependancies 01:41 <@snapcount> you just have to build it 01:41 <@snapcount> it's all in there 01:41 <@snapcount> that's the whole point 01:41 < terje> how about you bake an FC4 binary and I install that 01:41 < terje> :) 01:42 <@snapcount> I could do that 01:42 <@snapcount> do you want me to? 01:42 < terje> I would love that. 01:42 <@snapcount> you know what 01:42 <@snapcount> I will 01:42 < terje> hurrah 01:42 <@snapcount> a lot of people have asked 01:42 <@snapcount> it should be there tommorow 01:42 <@snapcount> or late tonight 01:42 < terje> I'm your new friend. 01:42 <@snapcount> heh 01:42 < terje> ok, I'll wait for it. 01:42 < terje> I have some much other stuff to do now. 01:42 < terje> thanks man. 01:42 <@snapcount> the checks in the mail ;=) 01:43 < terje> right "no go away terje and never bother us again" 01:43 <@snapcount> nah 01:43 <@snapcount> if you were an idiot maybe 01:43 <@snapcount> then I'd just kick you 01:43 <@snapcount> webgui is a beeotch for even the best sysadmins 01:43 <@snapcount> we're trying to improve on that 01:44 < terje> cool man, well I'd sure love to beta-test the FC4 binary. 01:44 <@snapcount> I'll git 'r done 01:55 <@snapcount> heh 01:55 <@snapcount> I'm downloading these cd's 01:55 <@snapcount> all four at the same time 01:55 <@snapcount> 150Kb/s each 01:55 <@snapcount> not too shabby 02:05 * terje mixes a martini 02:27 <@snapcount> !dubya 02:27 <@WRE> "Listen, Al Gore is a very tough opponent. He is the incumbent. He represents the incumbency. And a challenger is somebody who generally comes from the pack and wins, if you're going to win. And that's where I'm coming from." 02:32 -!- crythias [n=Gerald@c-69-139-51-253.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #webgui 02:55 <@snapcount> hola 02:55 <@snapcount> coma estas 02:55 <@snapcount> donde esta el bano? el queso es viaja y ongo 02:56 <@snapcount> crythia 02:56 <@snapcount> crythias 02:56 <@snapcount> did I make your screen blink 02:56 < crythias> yeah 02:56 <@snapcount> hah 02:56 <@snapcount> hi 02:56 < crythias> or.. gaim told me you typed my name 02:56 <@snapcount> how are you 02:56 <@snapcount> where is the bathroom 02:56 <@snapcount> the cheese is old and moldy 02:56 < crythias> fine. the cheese is old and... stinky 02:56 < crythias> modly 02:56 < crythias> ok. 02:56 < crythias> moldy 02:57 <@snapcount> encino man 02:57 < crythias> bueno. Me gusta ensenar cosas nuevas 02:58 < crythias> how may I ab^hmuse you? 02:58 <@snapcount> just talkin 02:58 <@snapcount> I didn't need anything 02:58 < crythias> kewl 02:59 <@snapcount> I'm building an FC4 wre 02:59 <@snapcount> binary 02:59 <@snapcount> if it's possible 02:59 <@snapcount> JT has tried with FC3 and FC4 with no luck 02:59 < crythias> I should consider making a FreeBSD binary. 02:59 <@snapcount> yeah what the hell 02:59 <@snapcount> =) 02:59 < crythias> not certain I want to do zip-n-go... 03:00 <@snapcount> pointless 03:00 < crythias> well, 03:00 <@snapcount> we have a windows wre in the works 03:00 <@snapcount> it will be ready in 10^-2 centuries 03:00 < crythias> it'd be webgui.freebsd.tar.gz 03:01 < crythias> ready in a year? 03:01 < crythias> time to take your axatives... it's time for American Idol eliminations. 03:01 < crythias> laxatives. 03:01 <@snapcount> heh 03:02 <@snapcount> forgot you're a math guy 03:02 <@snapcount> most people are like huh? 03:02 < crythias> 10 types of people... those who understand binary, those who don't.. 03:02 <@snapcount> really screw with them 10^-3 centuries 03:02 <@snapcount> exactly 03:02 < crythias> 1.2 months? 03:03 <@snapcount> 1 century = 100 years 03:03 <@snapcount> so .1 centuries 03:03 < crythias> we've established 1^-2=1 year 03:03 < crythias> 10^-2 03:03 <@snapcount> 365/10 03:04 < crythias> 12 months/10 03:04 <@snapcount> 36.5 days 03:04 <@snapcount> or 365*.1 03:04 < crythias> almost a month 03:04 <@snapcount> more than a month 03:04 <@snapcount> see 03:04 <@snapcount> isn't this fun 03:04 <@snapcount> =) 03:04 <@snapcount> translation 03:04 <@snapcount> it will be done in 36.5 days 03:05 <@snapcount> the cheese is old and moldy 03:10 < crythias> chili con queso... a fromage 03:10 < crythias> with cheese 03:11 < crythias> Waiter, I'll have pie a la mode. Actually, I'd like some ice cream, too. 03:12 < crythias> I think I might submit my SideBy Google to digg 03:12 < crythias> "That's lame. Frames are so last century" 03:13 < crythias> I don't want to host it on my local box 03:14 <@snapcount> heh 03:36 -!- pbmdawg [n=SysAdmin@CPE-65-31-211-163.kc.res.rr.com] has joined #webgui 03:36 < pbmdawg> how's it coming terje 03:36 < pbmdawg> have you made an FC4 wre binary for us yet? :) 03:36 -!- snapcount [n=roy@24.241.121.70.cfl.res.rr.com] has quit ["www.snapcount.org"] 03:36 -!- mode/#webgui [+o pbmdawg] by WRE 03:37 -!- mode/#webgui [+o crythias] by pbmdawg 03:49 -!- pbmdawg [n=SysAdmin@CPE-65-31-211-163.kc.res.rr.com] has left #webgui [] 04:26 -!- chansen [n=chansen@h48n3c1o1099.bredband.skanova.com] has quit ["later dudes!"] 06:25 -!- crythias [n=Gerald@c-69-139-51-253.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 10:22 -!- chansen [n=chansen@h48n3c1o1099.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #WebGUI 15:09 -!- crythias [n=Gerald@c-69-139-51-253.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #webgui 15:45 -!- wouter_procolix [n=wouter@host1.procolix.nl] has joined #webgui 15:51 -!- Grobbebol [n=marc@host1.procolix.nl] has left #webgui [] 15:52 -!- Grobbebol [n=marc@host1.procolix.nl] has joined #webgui 15:55 -!- wouter_procolix [n=wouter@host1.procolix.nl] has quit ["Download Gaim: http://gaim.sourceforge.net/"] 15:57 -!- Grobbebol [n=marc@host1.procolix.nl] has left #webgui [] 15:57 -!- Grobbebol [n=marc@host1.procolix.nl] has joined #webgui 16:01 -!- wouter_procolix [n=wouter@host1.procolix.nl] has joined #webgui 16:02 < wouter_procolix> Hoi Grobbebol :-) 16:02 < Grobbebol> Dag meneer Wouter 16:18 -!- ian` [n=ian@host1.procolix.nl] has joined #webgui 16:18 -!- ian` is now known as ian_procolix 16:18 < ian_procolix> hoi wouter_procolix 16:19 < wouter_procolix> hoi ian_procolix 16:20 < ian_procolix> alles goed? 16:20 < ian_procolix> dag marc 16:20 < Grobbebol> dag ian 16:20 < ian_procolix> hallooo 16:22 -!- ian_procolix is now known as Ian|ProcoliX 16:47 -!- Grobbebol [n=marc@host1.procolix.nl] has left #webgui [] 16:54 -!- crythias [n=Gerald@c-69-139-51-253.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 17:30 -!- snapcount [n=roy@24.241.121.70.cfl.res.rr.com] has joined #webgui 17:30 -!- mode/#webgui [+o snapcount] by WRE 17:32 <@snapcount> welcome, friends from the Netherlands 17:32 <@snapcount> or is it just martin who is in the netherlands? 17:34 -!- crythias [n=Gerald@c-69-139-51-253.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #webgui 17:34 <@snapcount> crythias! 17:41 < Ian|ProcoliX> colleges 17:41 < Ian|ProcoliX> it is 17:41 < Ian|ProcoliX> mr snapcount 17:42 < Ian|ProcoliX> but martin is in the netherlands aswell :-) 17:52 <@snapcount> so I've decided I like VMWare 17:52 <@snapcount> so much easier than dragging another machine out of the basement 17:52 < Ian|ProcoliX> :P 17:52 <@snapcount> having a damn serverfarm in the house to run all the *nixes 17:52 < Ian|ProcoliX> but less cool 17:52 <@snapcount> yes in the social sense 17:53 <@snapcount> not in the thermodynamic sense 17:53 <@snapcount> hehe 17:53 < Ian|ProcoliX> true =) 17:53 -!- crythias [n=Gerald@c-69-139-51-253.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 17:53 <@snapcount> so what do you do over at Procolix Ian? 17:53 < Ian|ProcoliX> system and network engineer 17:54 <@snapcount> cool 17:54 < Ian|ProcoliX> i gotta kill the webgui's that take 100% cpu load on our servers ;) 17:54 <@snapcount> I have a great respect for network engineers 17:54 <@snapcount> oh haha 17:54 < Ian|ProcoliX> I have respect for them webgui developers 17:54 < Ian|ProcoliX> hehe 17:54 <@snapcount> I've been learning more about networking 17:54 <@snapcount> I recently got iptables going 17:54 <@snapcount> for my gateway machine at home 17:55 < Ian|ProcoliX> iptables is cool 17:55 <@snapcount> my latest conquest was snort and base 17:55 < Ian|ProcoliX> I dislike snort 17:55 -!- Grobbebol [n=marc@host1.procolix.nl] has joined #webgui 17:55 <@snapcount> so I can see all the script-kiddies and worms trying to violate me 17:55 < Ian|ProcoliX> takes to much cpu load 17:55 <@snapcount> yeah 17:55 <@snapcount> my little gateway server is like "ummf" 17:56 <@snapcount> but it's not like a business or anything 17:56 < Ian|ProcoliX> hehe 17:56 <@snapcount> it's just for my enjoyment and entertainment 17:56 < Ian|ProcoliX> yeah its fun to play around with when it works 17:56 < Ian|ProcoliX> when it doesn't its a pain in the ass 17:56 <@snapcount> true for many things 17:56 -!- Grobbebol [n=marc@host1.procolix.nl] has left #webgui [] 17:57 <@snapcount> I'm trying to compile a WRE binary for FC4 right now 17:57 <@snapcount> so far so good 17:57 < Ian|ProcoliX> :P 17:57 < Ian|ProcoliX> we're mostly into gentoo 17:57 <@snapcount> I love gentoo 17:57 <@snapcount> it's just cool 17:57 < Ian|ProcoliX> yep 17:58 <@snapcount> takes like 10 years to install though if you compile everything 17:58 < Ian|ProcoliX> whaha yeah 17:58 <@snapcount> but that's also what makes it cool 17:58 < Ian|ProcoliX> thats true 18:00 < Ian|ProcoliX> well im out 18:00 < Ian|ProcoliX> cu later roy 18:00 <@snapcount> later man 18:00 <@snapcount> nice talking with you 18:00 < Ian|ProcoliX> likewise 18:44 -!- wouter_procolix [n=wouter@host1.procolix.nl] has left #webgui [] 18:50 -!- crythias [n=gyoung@64.200.2.35] has joined #webgui 18:50 <@snapcount> gerald is coming 18:50 <@snapcount> ah 18:51 <@snapcount> damn it 18:51 <@snapcount> you beat me 18:51 <@snapcount> fc 4 wre 18:51 <@snapcount> so far so good 18:51 <@snapcount> mysql is compiling now 18:53 < crythias> sigh 18:53 < crythias> 6 diggs 18:53 <@snapcount> what does that mean 18:53 < crythias> http://digg.com/software/Mashup_any_WebPage_with_Google_at_the_click_of_a_button 18:53 <@WRE> http://tinyurl.com/mfktq 18:55 < crythias> ah, well 18:55 <@snapcount> what does 6 diggs mean though 18:55 <@snapcount> are they like votes 18:55 < crythias> yeah 18:56 <@snapcount> can I vote for it 18:56 < crythias> I "digg" this 18:56 < crythias> if you have an account. 18:56 <@snapcount> haha 18:56 <@snapcount> $$$ 18:56 <@snapcount> ? 18:56 < crythias> Free 18:56 <@snapcount> I'll promote your cause 18:56 < crythias> :) 18:56 < crythias> Thanks 18:57 -!- snapcount changed the topic of #webgui to: *==Vote for Gerald--* http://tinyurl.com/mfktq 18:57 <@snapcount> maybe we can double your votes 18:57 < crythias> I can digg it you can digg it we can digg it :) 18:57 <@snapcount> how many are required for fame and fortune 18:57 < crythias> hey ... 20 votes in an hourand I cna make it to front page :) 18:58 <@snapcount> we need to gather a militia for this task 19:00 -!- crythias [n=gyoung@64.200.2.35] has left #webgui [] 19:00 -!- crythias [n=gyoung@64.200.2.35] has joined #webgui 19:00 -!- mode/#webgui [+o crythias] by WRE 19:01 -!- pbmdawg [n=SysAdmin@CPE-65-31-211-163.kc.res.rr.com] has joined #webgui 19:02 <@crythias> ahh yeah... 'tis Matt! and welcome to .. here. 19:02 <@snapcount> matt 19:02 <@snapcount> we need your vote 19:03 <@snapcount> do you digg it 19:03 <@snapcount> I just registered 19:03 * pbmdawg crumples like a skyscraper 19:03 <@crythias> then we'll bum rush digg for WebGUI 7 :) 19:03 < terje> hey snapcount 19:03 <@snapcount> uhh 19:03 < terje> how'd it go last night? 19:03 <@snapcount> my digg didn't get counted 19:03 < terje> =) 19:03 <@snapcount> it's still going 19:04 <@snapcount> looking good so far 19:04 < terje> cool 19:04 <@crythias> did your knees explode or were they hit by missiles? 19:04 <@snapcount> mysql is compiling now 19:04 < terje> I'll re-image this box right now then. 19:04 <@snapcount> I think we're over the hump 19:04 <@crythias> Maybe the planes had to bounce off the ground before landing in you. 19:04 <@snapcount> apache/mp2/apr are the beeotches 19:05 <@snapcount> and they are dizone 19:05 < terje> you said hump.. 19:05 <@crythias> Whatcha gonna do with all that junk.. all that junk in side your hump... 19:05 <@snapcount> heh 19:05 < terje> what we really need is just a WRE linux distro based on FC4 19:05 < terje> like download and install this ISO 19:05 <@snapcount> matt 19:05 <@snapcount> appliances? 19:05 < pbmdawg> hee. I have it for Debian 19:06 <@crythias> u got me spendin'... spendin all my money on ye. all my time on ye. 19:06 < terje> yea dog 19:06 < pbmdawg> 334MB 19:06 <@snapcount> nice 19:06 <@snapcount> does it work yet 19:06 < pbmdawg> (compressed) 19:06 < pbmdawg> yeah 19:06 <@snapcount> sweet 19:06 < pbmdawg> just not on macs 19:06 < terje> that is sweet. 19:06 <@snapcount> ab results? 19:06 < pbmdawg> b/c there's no vmware player for a mac 19:06 <@crythias> *in whiner mode* "No, not debian! I *must* have it for Ubuntu" 19:06 <@snapcount> does it suck 19:06 < pbmdawg> royally 19:06 <@snapcount> really? 19:07 < pbmdawg> no, hold on, I'll run ab 19:07 <@snapcount> slower than crap eh 19:07 <@snapcount> we need to find someone with a production class machine 19:07 <@snapcount> get the vmware player on it 19:07 <@snapcount> simmer, and let cool 19:07 < pbmdawg> I have Athlon 3000 19:07 < pbmdawg> 1 GB ram 19:08 <@snapcount> cool 19:08 < pbmdawg> that's what I'm testing it on now 19:08 <@snapcount> now all we have to do is simmer, and let cool 19:08 < pbmdawg> do you want 100 unique visitors 19:08 < pbmdawg> (new sessions created for each) 19:08 < pbmdawg> or 100 of the same user 19:09 <@snapcount> yes 19:09 < pbmdawg> grr 19:09 <@snapcount> I want to hear your smoke detectors go off as the cpu melts 19:09 < pbmdawg> 330KB/s 19:09 <@snapcount> I choose a) alex 19:09 <@snapcount> 100 unique users for 300 19:10 < pbmdawg> for 100 unique users, 1 concurrent 19:10 <@crythias> 330 :) 19:11 <@snapcount> mysql compiled 19:11 < pbmdawg> 6.8.7 btw 19:11 <@snapcount> onto image magick 19:12 <@snapcount> I'm in love wit a strippa... 19:12 <@snapcount> dededededede 19:12 <@snapcount> drop it low 19:12 * pbmdawg barfs all over his dog, who looks very dejected and sad as a result. 19:12 <@snapcount> you don't like strippers 19:13 <@crythias> only when I'm painting. 19:14 < pbmdawg> 430 KB/s for -n200 -c5 with a wgSession cookie 19:14 < pbmdawg> that's not bad 19:15 <@snapcount> to do a true test 19:15 <@snapcount> you'd need to run it native on equiv hardware 19:15 < pbmdawg> yeah 19:15 <@snapcount> and see the delta yo 19:15 < pbmdawg> but that beats plainblack.com :P 19:15 < pbmdawg> heh 19:16 * pbmdawg DOS's plainblack.com 19:17 <@crythias> hee 19:18 <@crythias> wow. 19:19 <@snapcount> mom 19:19 <@snapcount> err 19:19 <@crythias> hee aay 19:19 <@snapcount> .mom 19:19 <@crythias> *mom 19:19 < pbmdawg> WOWMOM 19:19 <@snapcount> oh yeah 19:19 <@snapcount> my period was too low 19:20 <@crythias> I'm glad there's context for that statement. 19:20 <@snapcount> lol 19:21 <@crythias> woot? 19:23 <@snapcount> man... it would be nice to have a dl380 g4 here to do this wre build with 19:23 <@snapcount> 15K scsi drives 19:24 <@crythias> heh 19:24 < pbmdawg> 30K 19:24 <@snapcount> hyperthreaded cpus 19:24 <@snapcount> like 4GB of ram 19:24 <@snapcount> *sigh* 19:24 <@crythias> btw. my wife and I have a joke regarding "Don't end a sentence in a preposition" 19:25 <@crythias> A preposition isn't good to end a sentence with, dammit. 19:25 <@snapcount> like, "honey, do you want to go to bed early tonight, wink wink" 19:25 <@snapcount> none of those 19:25 <@snapcount> oh 19:25 <@snapcount> that's proposition 19:25 <@snapcount> my bad shorty 19:25 <@snapcount> fees 19:25 <@snapcount> I'm segfaulting 19:25 <@snapcount> a;alkjf 19:25 <@snapcount> ahh 19:26 <@snapcount> $self->reboot 19:27 <@snapcount> ==(0* snapcount 1.0.59.64 ready for work --*\ 19:27 <@crythias> heh. So the guy'd been in jail for a year. He was released, then arrested for soliciting a prostitute. The judge said, "what the heck? Don't you know you shouldn't end your sentence with a proposition?" 19:27 <@snapcount> Would you like to play a game? 19:27 <@crythias> Let's play global thermonuclear war. 19:27 <@snapcount> how about a nice game of tic-tac-toe? 19:28 <@snapcount> the only winning move is... not to play 19:28 <@crythias> No. Let's play global thermonuclear war. 19:28 <@crythias> Choose a side. 19:28 <@crythias> Let's play Russian 19:28 <@snapcount> I'll go with pluto 19:28 <@snapcount> the planet, not the dog 19:28 <@crythias> just making sure. 19:29 * snapcount grabs some popcorn as earth destroys it's self 19:29 <@snapcount> I'll go first 19:29 <@snapcount> you lost moscow 19:29 <@snapcount> I win 19:29 <@snapcount> you sunk my battleship 19:30 <@snapcount> !dubya 19:30 <@WRE> "I mean, there needs to be a wholesale effort against racial profiling, which is illiterate children." 19:30 <@snapcount> lol 19:30 <@snapcount> !quote agthx 19:31 <@WRE> AGTHX -> 32.03 +0.10 / Last Trade Mar 2 / Change +0.31% / Volume N/A / 52 Week Range N/A 19:31 <@snapcount> go baby go 19:31 <@snapcount> !quote smcwx 19:31 <@WRE> SMCWX -> 38.54 +0.09 / Last Trade Mar 2 / Change +0.23% / Volume N/A / 52 Week Range N/A 19:31 < pbmdawg> !quote BC 19:31 <@WRE> BC -> 39.13 -0.63 / Last Trade 12:14pm / Change -1.58% / Volume 39.24 / 52 Week Range 39.28 19:35 * pbmdawg takes advantage of papajohns.com coupon: 1 large 2 topping for $7.99 19:37 <@snapcount> bitch 19:38 <@snapcount> I want some papa johns 19:38 < pbmdawg> $7.99 19:40 <@snapcount> and how do you expect me to come up with that kind of dough 19:41 * snapcount slaps his knee 19:41 <@snapcount> woo 19:41 < pbmdawg> sell your body 19:41 < pbmdawg> should take 2 nights 19:41 <@snapcount> damn 19:41 <@snapcount> that's not a bad idea 19:42 <@snapcount> I only need one of these kidneys... probably stand to loose a nipple or something 19:43 < pbmdawg> sell most of your liver; it'll grow back 19:43 <@snapcount> true true 19:44 <@snapcount> appendix, gal bladder 19:44 <@snapcount> worthless 19:44 <@snapcount> so I can get rid of those 19:46 <@snapcount> bling bling 19:46 <@snapcount> perlmodules are installing 19:47 <@snapcount> 'got new shoes on da ride... rollin' down 95' 20:00 -!- chansen [n=chansen@h48n3c1o1099.bredband.skanova.com] has quit ["bbl"] 20:10 <@snapcount> heh 20:10 <@snapcount> time for an experiment 20:10 <@snapcount> startkeylogger 20:11 <@snapcount> stopkeylogger 20:11 <@snapcount> damn 20:12 <@snapcount> http://blog.washingtonpost.com/securityfix/2006/03/keylogger_utterance_spooks_nor.html 20:12 <@WRE> http://tinyurl.com/kgrwh 20:41 <@crythias> startkeylogger 20:41 <@crythias> stopkeylogger 20:41 <@crythias> heh 20:42 <@snapcount> you all passed the test 20:42 <@snapcount> damn 20:42 <@snapcount> libapreq2 barfed 20:42 <@snapcount> figures 20:42 <@snapcount> last thing in the build 20:43 <@crythias> libapreq2 inhales forcefully 20:43 <@snapcount> I'll beat this bitch into submission 20:44 * snapcount dons his gi and numbchucks 20:44 <@snapcount> ah 20:45 <@snapcount> glue is missing a module 20:47 <@snapcount> anyone want a dougnut? 20:47 <@snapcount> I have cake style with chocolate glaze 20:47 <@crythias> glue! 20:48 <@snapcount> tastes great, less filling 20:48 <@crythias> http://mail.plainblack.com:8000/Lists/webguidev/Message/3218.html?Language= 20:49 <@crythias> Eclair: tastes great, more filling! 20:49 <@snapcount> I'm building glue manually 20:50 <@snapcount> it wanted ModPerl::MM which isn't installed for some reason by wre or cpan via prereqs 20:50 <@snapcount> appears to be compiling ok now 20:50 <@crythias> 1.fm rocks 20:50 <@snapcount> huh? 20:51 < pbmdawg> ECLAIRE.COM is already taken 20:51 <@snapcount> I had a genuis plan 20:51 <@snapcount> I was going to buy sketshooters.com 20:51 <@snapcount> that's what rappers are calling ejaculation now 20:51 <@snapcount> sket 20:51 <@crythias> ohh my beloved ice cream bar! how I love to lick your creamy filling! 20:51 <@snapcount> so I was gonna sell it to some porn site 20:51 < pbmdawg> skeet??????? 20:51 <@snapcount> they spell it 20:52 <@snapcount> sket 20:52 <@snapcount> I looked at some lyrics 20:52 <@snapcount> I bailed on the plan though 20:52 <@crythias> fountains of protein.com 20:52 <@snapcount> lol 20:52 <@crythias> ew 20:52 <@crythias> I think I'm going to be sick. 20:53 <@crythias> whiteprotein.com 20:54 <@crythias> and it's available. 20:55 <@snapcount> check sploogeblower.com 20:55 <@snapcount> rofl 20:55 <@crythias> yes 20:55 <@snapcount> we should alias it to webgui.org 20:55 < pbmdawg> LOLPLATES.COM  $8.95*/yr 20:56 < pbmdawg> available 20:56 <@crythias> heh! www.whiteprotein.com => "Welcome to plainblack.com" 20:56 < pbmdawg> sploogeblower.com available 20:56 <@crythias> sketshooter.com available 20:57 <@snapcount> what does it mean when a test returns a result of dubious 20:57 < pbmdawg> awwww milfkiller.com already taken. 20:57 <@snapcount> how about 20:57 <@snapcount> soccermom.com 20:57 <@snapcount> has a nice ring to it 20:57 <@crythias> dat's just sick 20:58 <@crythias> diediekitten.com 20:58 <@snapcount> stacy's mom... has got it goin' on 20:58 <@snapcount> so 20:59 <@snapcount> what does it mean 20:59 <@snapcount> the test wants to smoke a dubious 20:59 <@snapcount> I don't get it 21:01 <@snapcount> let's ask W 21:01 <@snapcount> !dubya 21:01 <@WRE> "They have miscalculated me as a leader." 21:01 <@snapcount> !dubya 21:01 <@WRE> "It's your money. You paid for it." 21:01 <@snapcount> !dubya 21:01 <@WRE> "If the East Timorians decide to revolt, I'm sure I'll have a statement." 21:02 <@snapcount> awesome 21:02 <@snapcount> !dubya 21:02 <@WRE> "The California crunch really is the result of not enough power-generating plants and then not enough power to power the power of generating plants." 21:02 <@snapcount> lol 21:02 <@snapcount> wow 21:05 < pbmdawg> !quote BC 21:05 <@WRE> BC -> 39.64 -0.12 / Last Trade 2:03pm / Change -0.30% / Volume 39.60 / 52 Week Range 39.65 21:08 <@crythias> calc 21:08 <@crythias> calc random 21:08 <@WRE> No calc set for "random" 21:08 <@snapcount> randcalc 21:08 <@WRE> foo = foobar 21:08 <@snapcount> lastcalc 21:09 <@snapcount> gawwwddd 21:09 <@snapcount> freakin' idiot 21:10 < pbmdawg> randcalc 21:10 <@WRE> confusion = DUDE this ROCKS but I'm not sure what to do with it. 21:10 < pbmdawg> randcalc 21:10 <@WRE> abcstore = Poker in the front. Liquor in the rear. Anteater out until further notice. 21:10 <@snapcount> randcalc 21:10 <@WRE> pomade = give me some of that palmade I hope you mean pomade 21:11 <@snapcount> randcalc 21:11 <@WRE> testes = here goes a new line  is it down here? 21:11 <@snapcount> randcalc 21:11 <@WRE> wouter = so. is it pronounced like wooter or router? 21:12 <@snapcount> ROFL 21:12 <@snapcount> I think that one is my new favorite 21:13 <@snapcount> !poker 21:13 < pbmdawg> randcalc 21:13 <@WRE> testes = here goes a new line  is it down here? 21:13 < pbmdawg> randcalc 21:13 <@WRE> mattscode = {dangit;} i broke 6.9... beyond repair, probably. 21:13 < pbmdawg> randcalc 21:13 <@WRE> urine = Did you know that all humans can urinate through their navels? 21:13 < pbmdawg> randcalc 21:13 <@WRE> flame = Roy and Martin are lovers 21:13 < pbmdawg> randcalc 21:13 <@WRE> two = one 21:14 < pbmdawg> randcalc 21:14 <@WRE> bunghole = FIRE FIRE FIRE!!! 21:14 < pbmdawg> randcalc 21:14 <@WRE> abcstore = Poker in the front. Liquor in the rear. Anteater out until further notice. 21:14 < pbmdawg> randcalc 21:14 <@WRE> docs = JT already wrote it currently it inserts 200 random words at a time into the database 21:14 < pbmdawg> randroy 21:14 <@snapcount> d;alfkdj;a 21:14 <@crythias> randcalc 21:14 <@WRE> urethra = {[23:14]} snapcount: or, you could commit it fucked up and try to get others to help you fix it 21:14 <@snapcount> uh 21:14 <@snapcount> error 21:14 < pbmdawg> randcalc 21:15 <@WRE> mattcompile = : I've never compiled anything before. 21:15 <@crythias> randcalc 21:15 <@WRE> burn = brb self-immolation 21:15 <@snapcount> dude 21:15 <@snapcount> they are screwed up 21:15 < pbmdawg> randcalc 21:15 <@WRE> stool = crythias: sharing stool. that's just .. gross. 21:15 <@snapcount> the keys don't match the values 21:15 <@snapcount> weird 21:16 < pbmdawg> yeah they do 21:16 <@snapcount> !bofh 21:16 < pbmdawg> just that one was off 21:16 <@WRE> BOFH Quick-excuse: You can tune a file system, but you can't tune a fish, from most tunefs man pages 21:16 < pbmdawg> !bash 21:16 <@WRE> |bash 85565| in biochem class today, and our teacher, has the hugest fastest ass ever, massive fat ass right. 21:16 <@WRE> |bash 85565| so hes writing on the board, and moving as he goes, when all of a sudden *WHACK*. he turned around too fast and his FAT ass hit the corner of his desk reall really hard. 21:16 <@WRE> |bash 85565| lol drops to the ground for like 30 seconds while clutching his rump, then gets up and runs out, blubbering all the way. 21:16 <@WRE> |bash 85565| i have never laughed so hard at someone elses expense. 21:16 < pbmdawg> !bash 21:16 <@WRE> |bash 88528| The most overlooked advantage to owning a computer is that if it fouls up there's no law against wacking it around a little. 21:16 <@WRE> |bash 88528| The same is actually true for a penis. 21:17 < pbmdawg> !bash 21:17 <@WRE> |bash 106602| OBLIQUE WROTE THE BOOK '101 HOME REMEDIES TO CURE WANKER'S CRAMP'. 21:17 <@WRE> |bash 106602| AND IS NOW WORKING ON 'HOW TO RESTORE RECTAL ELASTICITY' 21:17 < pbmdawg> calc chirp "And I was thinking, 'chirpy chirpy chirpy'" 21:17 < pbmdawg> !bash 21:17 <@WRE> |bash 119073| why are redneck murders so hard to solve 21:17 <@WRE> |bash 119073| cuz theres no dental records and all their DNA is the same 21:17 <@WRE> |bash 119073| HAHAHA 21:17 < pbmdawg> !bash 21:18 <@snapcount> heh 21:18 <@snapcount> you broke bash 21:18 < pbmdawg> !bash ME 21:18 <@WRE> !bash search results: Q# 23396 | Q# 4281 | Q# 5273 | Q# 99060 | Q# 244321 | Q# 287414 | Q# 99835 | Q# 207373 | Q# 5775 | Q# 4753 21:18 <@snapcount> !bash bash 21:18 <@WRE> !bash search results: Q# 21516 | Q# 185361 | Q# 60469 | Q# 192531 | Q# 345144 | Q# 194647 | Q# 31 | Q# 230936 | Q# 140720 | Q# 50070 21:18 < pbmdawg> !bash crythias 21:18 <@WRE> !bash: no results found for search 21:18 < pbmdawg> !bash roy 21:18 <@WRE> !bash search results: Q# 104383 | Q# 151861 | Q# 408973 | Q# 520466 | Q# 402242 | Q# 610952 | Q# 15920 | Q# 181581 | Q# 56044 | Q# 13813 21:18 < pbmdawg> !bash snapcount 21:18 <@snapcount> ooh 21:18 <@WRE> !bash: no results found for search 21:18 < pbmdawg> !bash 104383 21:19 <@WRE> !bash: quote has too many lines to display in public channel (max 12, quote has 34): sending as privmsg instead 21:19 < pbmdawg> !bash 151861 21:19 < pbmdawg> !bash 408973 21:19 < pbmdawg> !bash 21:19 < pbmdawg> !bash 21:19 < pbmdawg> !bash 21:19 < pbmdawg> !bash 21:19 < pbmdawg> !bash 21:20 < pbmdawg> /kick crythias 21:20 <@WRE> |bash| -[Conroy_Bumpus]- OH FUCK ME 21:20 <@WRE> |bash| -[Conroy_Bumpus]- I FORGOT TO PICK UP MY 7 YEAR OLD DAUGHTER FROM SOCCER PRACTICE 21:20 <@WRE> |bash| -[Conroy_Bumpus]- 9 HOURS AGO 21:20 <@WRE> |bash| -[Conroy_Bumpus]- HOLY SHIT 21:20 <@WRE> |bash| -[Conroy_Bumpus]- BYE 21:20 <@WRE> |bash| The most dangerous thing in the world is a Second Lieutenant with a map and a compass 21:20 <@WRE> |bash| Americans: Please divert your course 15 degrees to the North to avoid a collision. 21:20 <@WRE> |bash| Canadians: Recommend you divert YOUR course 15 degrees to the South to avoid a collision. 21:20 <@crythias> what? 21:20 <@WRE> |bash| Americans: This is the Captain of a US Navy ship. I say again, divert YOUR course. 21:20 <@WRE> |bash| Canadians: No. I say again, you divert YOUR course. 21:20 <@WRE> |bash| Americans: THIS IS THE AIRCRAFT CARRIER USS LINCOLN, THE SECOND LARGEST SHIP IN THE UNITED STATES' ATLANTIC FLEET. WE ARE ACCOMPANIED BY THREE DESTROYERS, THREE CRUISERS AND NUMEROUS SUPPORT VESSELS. I DEMAND THAT YOU CHANGE YOUR COURSE 15 DEGREES NORTH, THAT'S ONE FIVE DEGREES NORTH, OR COUNTER MEASURES WILL BE UNDERTAKEN TO ENSURE THE SAFETY OF THIS SHIP. 21:20 <@WRE> |bash| Canadians: This is a lighthouse. Your call. 21:20 <@WRE> |bash 124804| I will name my children after my testicles 21:20 <@WRE> |bash 124804| Left and Right 21:20 <@WRE> |bash 124804| ......... 21:20 <@WRE> |bash 124804| I don't think 'small' and 'smaller' are very good names. 21:20 -!- pbmdawg was kicked from #webgui by snapcount [violence is not the answer] 21:20 <@snapcount> hehe 21:21 -!- pbmdawg [n=SysAdmin@CPE-65-31-211-163.kc.res.rr.com] has joined #webgui 21:21 <@snapcount> where did you go? 21:21 -!- mode/#webgui [+o pbmdawg] by WRE 21:21 <@snapcount> uh oh 21:21 -!- mode/#webgui [-o snapcount] by pbmdawg 21:21 -!- mode/#webgui [+o snapcount] by WRE 21:21 -!- pbmdawg was kicked from #webgui by snapcount [not so fast] 21:22 -!- mode/#webgui [+i] by snapcount 21:22 <@snapcount> pfft 21:22 -!- mode/#webgui [-i] by snapcount 21:23 <@crythias> heh 21:23 <@crythias> lighthouse. your call 21:23 <@crythias> old joke. 21:24 <@crythias> guess he left 21:24 <@snapcount> I privmsged him 21:24 <@crythias> I tried to /invite 21:28 -!- mode/#webgui [+i] by crythias 21:28 -!- mode/#webgui [-i] by crythias 21:31 <@snapcount> anyone care to help test wre for fc4 21:32 * snapcount throws a bucket of water on terje 21:36 <@snapcount> 62MB 21:38 <@snapcount> matt has put me on the ignore list 21:38 * snapcount is ignored 21:38 <@snapcount> crythias, how bout it 21:38 -!- pbmdawg [n=SysAdmin@CPE-65-31-211-163.kc.res.rr.com] has joined #webgui 21:39 <@snapcount> he's bizack 21:39 <@snapcount> do you have fc4 installed matt 21:39 <@snapcount> wanna help test 21:39 < pbmdawg> no 21:39 < pbmdawg> no 21:39 <@snapcount> is that a no to both questions 21:40 <@snapcount> or one no with strong emphasis to one of the questions 21:40 < pbmdawg> yes 21:40 <@snapcount> hehe 21:40 -!- snapcount was kicked from #webgui by snapcount [play nice with others] 21:40 -!- snapcount [n=roy@24.241.121.70.cfl.res.rr.com] has joined #webgui 21:41 -!- mode/#webgui [+o snapcount] by WRE 21:41 <@snapcount> well fiddlesticks 21:44 < pbmdawg> buh roring 21:53 <@snapcount> where should I stick this file 21:53 < pbmdawg> guess 21:53 <@snapcount> if you say up my ass 21:53 <@snapcount> it would be funny 21:53 <@snapcount> anyways 21:53 < pbmdawg> SF 21:53 <@snapcount> where should I put it so peeps can dl and test 21:53 <@snapcount> yeah but 21:54 <@snapcount> I wanna make sure it works first 21:54 < pbmdawg> why; we release untested broken stuff all the time 21:54 <@snapcount> heh 21:54 <@snapcount> I guess my testing must suffice 22:04 < pbmdawg> STUFFIT 22:05 <@snapcount> SKETSHTR 22:05 <@snapcount> THE HNIC 22:06 < pbmdawg> SHIZZLE 22:06 <@snapcount> MA GRILL 22:07 <@snapcount> TUXNGOEY 22:08 <@snapcount> CPANSUX 22:08 < pbmdawg> CPANCAKE 22:09 <@crythias> calc urinecakes 22:09 <@WRE> urinecakes = That's not belly lint, that's urine cakes. 22:10 <@snapcount> has anyone ever seen nuba speak? 22:11 <@crythias> I'm sorry. energy radio is probably my favorite feed ever. 22:11 < nuba> no 22:13 <@crythias> heh. Best way to stop people shorting your stock is to post a profit. 22:14 <@snapcount> nuba: you're there 22:14 <@snapcount> just wondering 22:15 <@snapcount> crythias: you're failing to make sense again 22:15 <@crythias> comment posted to http://news.com.com/2100-1038-6045466.html?tag=tb 22:15 <@WRE> http://tinyurl.com/zjjk4 22:15 < nuba> snapcount: yes 22:15 <@crythias> son is complaining about short sellers of Overstock.com stock. 22:16 <@crythias> commenter says They won't do it if they post a profit. 22:16 < pbmdawg> short over stock stock 22:16 <@snapcount> yeah 22:17 <@snapcount> don't overstock on overstock stock especially if overstock stock is selling short 22:17 <@crythias> http://news.com.com/Need+your+PC+fixed+Get+ready+to+pay+up/2100-1041_3-6044445.html?tag=nefd.pulse 22:17 <@WRE> http://tinyurl.com/em3re 22:27 < nuba> snapcount: sup ? 22:28 <@snapcount> I'm building a new wre right now 22:30 <@crythias> a-shol-y 22:31 <@crythias> dunno. not making sense. 22:53 -!- crythias [n=gyoung@64.200.2.35] has quit ["Download Gaim: http://gaim.sourceforge.net/"] 23:07 -!- wouter_procolix [n=Administ@ipd50a25e5.speed.planet.nl] has joined #webgui 23:07 < pbmdawg> wouter 23:07 <@snapcount> calc wouter 23:07 <@WRE> wouter = so. is it pronounced like wooter or router? 23:07 < wouter_procolix> Hi math 23:08 < wouter_procolix> Well, some dutch people pronounce router like wooter, so that's a different question :-) 23:08 < wouter_procolix> But I guess it's like router :-) 23:08 < pbmdawg> or like water 23:08 < pbmdawg> or wuuter, as massachusets people pronounce "water" 23:09 < wouter_procolix> Hey, I have a WebGUI question: 23:09 < wouter_procolix> about the uploadsHandler 23:10 < wouter_procolix> Is it always called in current WebGUI versions, or is there an option for it... 23:10 < pbmdawg> current? 23:10 < pbmdawg> 6.8.x ? 23:10 < wouter_procolix> SVN version. 23:10 < wouter_procolix> 6.99 23:11 < wouter_procolix> Hmm, the question also for 6.8.7... 23:11 < wouter_procolix> Because some of our websites has problems with file permissions since it's upgraded to 6.8.7 yesterday. 23:11 <@snapcount> from what? 23:11 <@snapcount> what version were you at before? 23:12 < wouter_procolix> Hm, good question... I guess 6.5 or something like that... I'm not sure. I didn't do it myself. 23:12 <@snapcount> oh 23:12 <@snapcount> It's not optional anymore afaik 23:12 <@snapcount> it was in that version though 23:12 < pbmdawg> it's probably a rewriting problem. 23:13 < wouter_procolix> I changed the permissions using "Edit branch" but the .wgaccess files were not updated accordingly. 23:13 <@snapcount> oh 23:13 < wouter_procolix> Also manual editing didn't work. So the images are still not visible :-( 23:13 <@snapcount> they won't be 23:13 < pbmdawg> known bug 23:13 <@snapcount> every time you edit a file 23:13 < wouter_procolix> Known solution?? 23:13 <@snapcount> it gets copied 23:13 <@snapcount> and hence a new .wgaccess 23:13 <@snapcount> basically 23:14 <@snapcount> the files are being versioned 23:14 <@snapcount> but it's fucked up 23:14 < wouter_procolix> Yikes.. So no quick fix probably... 23:14 <@snapcount> no.. colin and I worked on this for a while 23:14 < pbmdawg> oh, I added a flag parameter to getFiles that gets all the files, including .wgaccess ones 23:15 < wouter_procolix> What's getFiles? 23:15 < pbmdawg> Storage::getFiles 23:15 < wouter_procolix> okay. 23:15 < pbmdawg> just thought I'd throw that out there 23:17 < wouter_procolix> maybe a script to modify all .wgaccess files will do as a quick & dirty solution in this case. 23:19 < wouter_procolix> But I still don't understand the uploadsHandler (in SVN vesion)... I added some warn() statements in the uploadsHandler (between Session->open and $session->close), but nothing shows up in the webgui log when I access a file from the uploads directory. 23:19 < wouter_procolix> s/vesion/version/ 23:22 < pbmdawg> then 6.8.7 was upgraded/installed incorrectly 23:24 < wouter_procolix> :-( 23:44 <@snapcount> hey 23:44 <@snapcount> where does apache get it's path when it runs something like preload.perl 23:45 <@snapcount> the bastard is using the wrong perl 23:47 < wouter_procolix> Are you referring to the uploadsHandler problem?? 23:47 <@snapcount> no 23:47 <@snapcount> I'm off on my own little tangent here 23:47 < wouter_procolix> okay, phew... 23:47 <@snapcount> sorry 23:48 < wouter_procolix> than bastard != me :-) 23:48 <@snapcount> oh no 23:48 <@snapcount> haha 23:48 <@snapcount> bastard == apache 23:48 < wouter_procolix> Yeah, I guessed ;-) 23:58 -!- specsmu [n=rmiller@ppp-71-128-23-212.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net] has quit ["leaving"] --- Day changed Sat Mar 04 2006 00:02 < wouter_procolix> Okay, another bug... Adding new subscriptions throws an error. I traced it to this line: 00:03 < wouter_procolix> WebGUI::Commerce::Payment->recurringPeriodValues($session) 00:03 < wouter_procolix> (well, that's part of the line). 00:03 < wouter_procolix> $sessions seems fine at this point in the code 00:03 < wouter_procolix> So it must be in recurringPeriodValues I guess. 00:03 < wouter_procolix> https://svn.webgui.org/svnweb/WebGUI%20SVN/view/WebGUI/lib/WebGUI/Commerce/Payment.pm 00:03 <@WRE> http://tinyurl.com/s7lz6 00:04 < wouter_procolix> Then something happens with "Tie::IxHash" but I have no idea what that is or how it works. Can someone take a quick look at the function? 00:04 < wouter_procolix> It's only 10-15 lines and might be just a stupid typo or something like that... 00:05 < wouter_procolix> Oh, by the way, the error is as follows: 00:06 < wouter_procolix> Couldn't execute operation : WebGUI::Operation::Subscription::www_editSubscription. Root cause: Can't locate object method "user" via package "WebGUI::Commerce::Payment" at .../WebGUI/lib/WebGUI/International.pm line 78. 00:06 <@snapcount> I was trying to figure this out yesterday 00:06 <@snapcount> it's breaking my wobject 00:06 <@snapcount> my guess is that it's a call to the user object of session somewhere 00:08 < wouter_procolix> In www_editSubscription is a call to $session->user->isInGroup() but that works fine... 00:10 < wouter_procolix> Hmm: 00:10 < wouter_procolix> WebGUI::International->new($session, 'Commerce'); 00:10 <@snapcount> what line of what file are you talking about? 00:10 < wouter_procolix> That's in Paymet.pm (link a few lines above 00:10 < wouter_procolix> ) 00:11 < wouter_procolix> I still have difficulties with understanding how way Perl works.... 00:11 < wouter_procolix> What's the first argument ($_) in the function new, if it's called like above? 00:11 < wouter_procolix> $session? or $class? 00:11 < wouter_procolix> Because in Internationalization.pm: 00:11 < wouter_procolix> sub new { 00:11 < wouter_procolix> my ($class, $session, $namespace, $language) = @_; 00:13 <@snapcount> the way it's called above, $class will be equal to the part before the method 00:13 <@snapcount> $class=WebGUI::International 00:13 < wouter_procolix> Okay, then this seems wrong: 00:13 < wouter_procolix> WebGUI::Commerce::Payment->recurringPeriodValues($session) 00:14 < wouter_procolix> Because in Payment.pm: 00:14 < wouter_procolix> sub recurringPeriodValues { 00:14 < wouter_procolix> my ($session) = @_; 00:14 < wouter_procolix> So the first argument will be "WebGUI::Commerce::Payment" , isnt' it? 00:14 <@snapcount> try changing that to shift 00:14 <@snapcount> my $session = shift; 00:15 < wouter_procolix> Nope, that doesn't solve the problem :-( 00:16 < wouter_procolix> But it still looks wrong to me. 00:16 <@snapcount> oh 00:16 <@snapcount> it is wrong 00:16 <@snapcount> you can't do it like that 00:17 < wouter_procolix> AH, I think I've got it. 00:17 < wouter_procolix> I changed it like this: 00:17 < wouter_procolix> sub recurringPeriodValues{ 00:17 <@snapcount> it has to be WebGUI::Commerce::Payment->new($session)->recurringPeriodValues; 00:17 < wouter_procolix> my $class = shift; 00:17 < wouter_procolix> my $session = shift; 00:18 < wouter_procolix> And you're solution does make even more sense :-) 00:18 <@snapcount> unless WebGUI::Commerce::Payment->recurringPayment is a constructor 00:18 <@snapcount> that won't work 00:18 <@snapcount> the other way to do it would be 00:19 <@snapcount> my $payment = WebGUI::Commerce::Payment->new($session); 00:19 <@snapcount> $payment->recurringPayment(); 00:19 <@snapcount> period values 00:19 <@snapcount> whatever the method is 00:20 < wouter_procolix> Oh: 00:20 < wouter_procolix> Couldn't execute operation : WebGUI::Operation::Subscription::www_editSubscription. Root cause: Can't locate object method "new" via package "WebGUI::Commerce::Payment" 00:21 <@snapcount> oh 00:21 <@snapcount> the constructor must be something else then 00:21 < wouter_procolix> init... 00:21 < wouter_procolix> =head2 init ( namespace ) 00:22 < wouter_procolix> I'm not sure about that... 00:23 <@snapcount> sorry 00:23 <@snapcount> I'm wrong 00:23 <@snapcount> that's not a class method 00:23 <@snapcount> it's a procedural method 00:23 < wouter_procolix> So than my original solution is fine? 00:23 <@snapcount> no 00:24 <@snapcount> the class name is not passed to the function when it's procedural 00:24 <@snapcount> it's just for scope resolution 00:24 <@snapcount> The problem is probably in i18n 00:25 <@snapcount> look at the changes made to the Payment i18n 00:26 < wouter_procolix> The strange thing is that it worked (or at least it seemed to work) with one shift before "$session = shift" 00:26 <@snapcount> really? 00:26 < wouter_procolix> I looked at other occurences of "WebGUI::International->new($session [, namespace]) and they all were the same... 00:27 < wouter_procolix> Yes, I get a working form back, and no errors in the log file. 00:28 <@snapcount> I'm no perl OO expert myself 00:28 <@snapcount> so we should probably ask someone why that works 00:28 <@snapcount> to make sure it's right 00:28 < wouter_procolix> I'll ask Martin... I think he wrote the Commerce system or a big part of it. 00:29 <@snapcount> he would know 00:29 < wouter_procolix> Besides that, he has a lot of Perl experience, so he'll understand it better :-) 00:29 < wouter_procolix> I've a lot of experience in C/C++ and some other languages, but Perl is so much different... 00:30 < wouter_procolix> By the way, when saving the new subscription, I still get the "Can't call method "user"" error, but I'll take a look at that later... 00:31 < wouter_procolix> Either this was no good solution, or there is another bug. 00:32 < wouter_procolix> So I'm gonna stop working now.. I'll mail Martin about this problem. But thanks for the help. It's very helpful to talk about this stuff, IMHO. 00:32 <@snapcount> I agree 00:32 < wouter_procolix> okay, see you later than :-) 00:32 <@snapcount> laters 00:33 < terje> hey snapcount 00:33 < wouter_procolix> PS: Dag Ian :p 00:33 < terje> just checking ing.. 00:33 < terje> err, in. 00:33 -!- wouter_procolix [n=Administ@ipd50a25e5.speed.planet.nl] has left #webgui [] 00:33 < terje> anything test-worthy? 00:33 <@snapcount> I'm having issues 00:33 <@snapcount> almost 00:33 < terje> cool mon 00:34 < terje> Prolly Monday then.. 00:34 <@snapcount> prolly this weekend 00:34 <@snapcount> but by monday for sure 00:34 <@snapcount> my laptop sucketh 00:34 <@snapcount> so compiling and recompiling is slow 00:34 < terje> werdup 00:34 < terje> honestly though I have a box you can use if you like. 00:34 < terje> It's pretty speedy. 00:35 < terje> and it's got a fresh copy of FC4 on it =) - just let me know. 00:35 <@snapcount> thanks... I'm just about done now though 00:35 < terje> k 00:35 <@snapcount> I'll keep that in mind 00:35 < terje> k 01:09 -!- snapcount [n=roy@24.241.121.70.cfl.res.rr.com] has quit ["www.snapcount.org"] 01:13 < pbmdawg> terje 01:14 < pbmdawg> you can compile it yourself if you want. I did it on centos and I'm a linux newbie 01:24 * terje terje be laazie 01:24 < terje> I did think about it but snap said he'd hook itup. 01:39 < pbmdawg> I doubt he gets to it tonight; you might just go ahead and try it assuming you have the time 02:33 -!- pbmdawg [n=SysAdmin@CPE-65-31-211-163.kc.res.rr.com] has left #webgui [] 03:48 -!- crythias [n=Gerald@c-69-139-51-253.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #webgui 06:04 -!- perlDreamer [n=colink@199.107.160.242] has joined #webgui 06:04 < perlDreamer> if Gerald will write POD for 5 WebGUI core files, he gets my vote 06:06 -!- perlDreamer [n=colink@199.107.160.242] has quit [Client Quit] 07:54 -!- crythias [n=Gerald@c-69-139-51-253.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 08:38 -!- crythias [n=Gerald@c-69-139-51-253.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #webgui 09:00 -!- crythias [n=Gerald@c-69-139-51-253.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 12:33 -!- grobbebol [n=marc@84-107-150-38.dsl.quicknet.nl] has joined #webgui 12:36 -!- grobbebol [n=marc@84-107-150-38.dsl.quicknet.nl] has left #webgui [] 14:26 -!- crythias [n=Gerald@c-69-139-51-253.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #webgui 15:17 -!- chansen [n=chansen@h48n3c1o1099.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #WebGUI 16:37 -!- crythias [n=Gerald@c-69-139-51-253.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 17:20 -!- crythias [n=Gerald@c-69-139-51-253.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #webgui 17:41 -!- crythias [n=Gerald@c-69-139-51-253.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 22:12 -!- crythias [n=Gerald@c-69-139-51-253.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #webgui 22:15 -!- crythias [n=Gerald@c-69-139-51-253.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 23:47 -!- pbmdawg [n=SysAdmin@CPE-65-31-211-163.kc.res.rr.com] has joined #webgui 23:52 -!- pbmdawg [n=SysAdmin@CPE-65-31-211-163.kc.res.rr.com] has quit ["Leaving."] --- Log closed Sun Mar 05 00:53:49 2006 --- Log opened Sun Mar 05 00:58:14 2006 00:58 -!- xdanger [i=xdanger@i.should.be.in.a.mentalhouse.net] has joined #webgui 00:58 -!- ServerMode/#webgui [+ns] by orwell.freenode.net 00:58 -!- Irssi: #webgui: Total of 1 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 1 normal] 00:58 -!- Irssi: Join to #webgui was synced in 1 secs --- Log closed Sun Mar 05 01:06:24 2006 --- Log opened Sun Mar 05 01:11:25 2006 01:11 -!- xdanger [i=xdanger@i.should.be.in.a.mentalhouse.net] has joined #webgui 01:11 -!- Irssi: #webgui: Total of 3 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 3 normal] 01:11 -!- Irssi: Join to #webgui was synced in 1 secs 01:12 -!- nuba [i=nuba@zaxxon.telerama.com] has joined #webgui 01:12 -!- terje [n=joem@vampira.scare.org] has joined #webgui 01:49 -!- snapcount [n=roy@user-0c6t351.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #webgui 02:23 -!- pbmdawg [n=SysAdmin@CPE-65-31-211-163.kc.res.rr.com] has joined #webgui 02:24 < pbmdawg> terje: could you exit the room so we can reset the channel and give someone ops 02:24 < pbmdawg> chansen: also you? 02:24 < pbmdawg> nuba: you too? 02:25 < pbmdawg> xdanger? 02:25 < snapcount> everyone out! =0 02:25 < pbmdawg> Fire!!!!!! 02:25 < snapcount> if everyone but wre leaves he will cycle the channel automagically 02:25 < pbmdawg> good for him 02:26 < snapcount> he's freaking amazazzzing 02:26 < pbmdawg> he probably did that earlier, and then deoped himself or something 02:26 < pbmdawg> BIZATCHES 02:29 < pbmdawg> NUBA 02:44 -!- snapcount [n=roy@user-0c6t351.cable.mindspring.com] has left #webgui [] 02:46 -!- pbmdawg [n=SysAdmin@CPE-65-31-211-163.kc.res.rr.com] has left #webgui [] 03:13 -!- pbmdawg [n=SysAdmin@CPE-65-31-211-163.kc.res.rr.com] has joined #webgui 03:13 -!- pbmdawg [n=SysAdmin@CPE-65-31-211-163.kc.res.rr.com] has left #webgui [] 03:48 < nuba> sup ? 03:48 < nuba> oh, he left.. 04:00 -!- perlDreamer [n=colink@199.107.160.242] has joined #webgui 04:09 -!- pbmdawg [n=SysAdmin@CPE-65-31-211-163.kc.res.rr.com] has joined #webgui 04:09 < pbmdawg> NO OPS 04:09 < pbmdawg> part-A 04:09 < perlDreamer> 0x00 04:09 < pbmdawg> oops 04:09 < pbmdawg> par-TA 04:09 < perlDreamer> or in the case of my latest chip 5a5a5a5a 04:10 < perlDreamer> that would be two no-ops 04:10 < pbmdawg> EAX 04:11 -!- snapcount [n=roy@user-0c6t351.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #webgui 04:11 < pbmdawg> banillion 04:12 < pbmdawg> fasillious 04:12 < perlDreamer> calc E-ROD 04:12 < WRE> E-ROD = Evil Release Overlord and Destructor 04:12 < perlDreamer> greetings, Roy 04:12 < pbmdawg> randcalc 04:12 < WRE> plone = lame 04:12 < pbmdawg> randcalc 04:12 < WRE> confusion = DUDE this ROCKS but I'm not sure what to do with it. 04:13 < perlDreamer> now that's funny 04:13 < perlDreamer> or rand isn't very rand-ish 04:13 < snapcount> greetings 04:14 < snapcount> I see our effort to restore ops was a complete failure 04:15 < pbmdawg> calc papajohns sweet nectar of tomatos, cheese, and sugary dough with salty garlic yellow goo, and BACON, and pepper-ONI 04:15 < pbmdawg> calc papajohns 04:15 < WRE> papajohns = sweet nectar of tomatos, cheese, and sugary dough with salty garlic yellow goo, and BACON, and pepper-ONI 04:16 < pbmdawg> yeah no one left 04:16 < perlDreamer> so if no one is OP, how does one get op'ed? 04:17 < snapcount> everyone has to leave 04:17 < snapcount> and the channel will be cycled by wre 04:17 < snapcount> which will give him ops 04:17 < snapcount> he in turn 04:17 < snapcount> will op us 04:17 < snapcount> thus restoring order 04:17 < perlDreamer> but _everyone_ has to leave 04:20 < perlDreamer> even xdanger the schizo bot/user dude? 04:20 < snapcount> ok 04:20 < snapcount> I'm going to resort to darker methods 04:20 < snapcount> startkeylogger 04:20 < snapcount> nope 04:20 < snapcount> let's try this 04:23 < pbmdawg> roy: unblock me 04:23 < pbmdawg> or suffer the consequences 04:23 < pbmdawg> hey 04:24 < snapcount> hey 04:24 < snapcount> DCC SEND "byebyek" 0 0 0 04:26 < pbmdawg> calc extort : in high school p.e. class, our "coach" took us all to the local bowling alley, and each day each person put a dollar to the winner's pot. Guess who won every day? 04:26 < snapcount> DCC SEND 012345689012345678 04:26 < snapcount> fuck 04:27 < snapcount> the exploits aren't working 04:27 < snapcount> no one is vulnerable 04:27 < perlDreamer> "I am invincible!" 04:27 < perlDreamer> name that movie 04:27 < pbmdawg> Goldeneye 04:28 < pbmdawg> of course 04:28 < perlDreamer> props to the representative from Kansas 04:28 < pbmdawg> I used to say that all the time 04:28 < perlDreamer> what happened to the Floridian quote-a-matic? 04:28 < snapcount> I'm about to DDos those who are not complying 04:29 < snapcount> hopefully none of them are sitting at a university somewhere w/ an OC48 04:29 < pbmdawg> I think EV1 might shutter all our servers if you use those 04:29 < perlDreamer> if you can get the lurkers to leave, I'll go too 04:30 < pbmdawg> DIE DIE DIE lurklers 04:30 < snapcount> I wouldn't do that 04:30 < snapcount> I'm not insane 04:30 < snapcount> I have other machines for such purposes 04:30 < snapcount> DCC SEND "byebyek" 0 0 0 04:35 < pbmdawg> 0DAYWRZ 04:36 < perlDreamer> BAKD00R 04:37 < snapcount> ok 04:37 < snapcount> this will take a little prep 04:37 < perlDreamer> y'all think these 17" displays are too big? 04:37 < snapcount> just so everyone knows 04:37 < snapcount> this is not malicious 04:37 < snapcount> no harm intended 04:37 < snapcount> you will just fall off of freenode for a bit =) 04:37 * snapcount prepares to save the day 04:58 < pbmdawg> how is saving the day going 04:58 < snapcount> slowly 04:58 < snapcount> I have to setup a few more bots 04:58 < snapcount> it's going to be cool 04:59 < snapcount> it might suck if they have a script to auto rejoin or something 04:59 < snapcount> or a lot of bandwidth 04:59 < snapcount> but hey 04:59 < snapcount> worth a shot 05:03 < pbmdawg> Accidental Damage Protection (Except in Florida) 05:03 < pbmdawg> you can't get ADP in florida 05:03 < snapcount> what? 05:04 < pbmdawg> through dell 05:04 < snapcount> oh 05:04 < pbmdawg> you can't but accidental damage protection 05:04 < pbmdawg> buy 05:23 < pbmdawg> oh well. 05:23 < pbmdawg> it wasn't meant to be 05:23 < pbmdawg> (with me here, tonight, at least) 05:23 < snapcount> what's that 05:24 < pbmdawg> l8r 05:24 -!- pbmdawg [n=SysAdmin@CPE-65-31-211-163.kc.res.rr.com] has quit ["Leaving."] 05:24 < snapcount> heh 05:24 < snapcount> he's going to miss the fun 05:24 < snapcount> my army is compiling as we speak 05:47 < perlDreamer> what hackery are you brewing? 05:47 < perlDreamer> and why didn't you use perl? 05:54 < snapcount> hehe 06:16 < perlDreamer> still here 06:16 < snapcount> yrs 06:16 < perlDreamer> yrs? 06:17 < snapcount> y 06:17 < perlDreamer> what's yrs? 06:17 < perlDreamer> what does it mean? 06:17 < snapcount> redneck for yes 06:17 < perlDreamer> roger 06:31 < perlDreamer> I didn't know that you spoke rednect. 06:31 < perlDreamer> redneck 06:32 < snapcount> heh 06:33 < snapcount> you must learn at least one foreign language in college 06:33 < perlDreamer> that's not a foreign language, it's a dialect 06:33 < perlDreamer> I mean, do you really think an oregon redneck and florida redneck could communicate with one another? 06:34 < snapcount> hmm 06:34 < snapcount> perhaps 06:34 < perlDreamer> oh, sure. there are commonalities, like tobacco spitting etiquette 06:34 < perlDreamer> monster truck discussion 06:34 < perlDreamer> and talk about how to sight in your new rifle 06:34 < perlDreamer> but how do they talk about swamp boats, or snow mobiles 06:35 < perlDreamer> it just wouldn't work 06:35 < snapcount> sigh 06:35 < snapcount> I think you're right 06:35 < perlDreamer> are you about ready to nuke us? 06:35 < snapcount> I couldn't make it work on one server 06:36 < snapcount> I'm trying it on another one now 06:43 -!- WRE1 [n=WRE1@67-58-211-247.amtelecom.net] has joined #WebGUI 06:43 < snapcount> hehehe 06:44 < snapcount> there's one 06:48 -!- WRE2 [n=WRE2@67-58-211-247.amtelecom.net] has joined #WebGUI 06:48 < perlDreamer> two 06:48 < snapcount> wre counts as well 06:48 < snapcount> so that's three 06:48 < snapcount> I'm going to make one more 06:48 < perlDreamer> so what's the strategy? 06:48 < snapcount> they all are connecting from the same host so I have to be carefull 06:49 < snapcount> flood 06:49 < snapcount> all the bots will ping them simultaneously 06:49 < snapcount> when they attempt to reply to all of them 06:49 < snapcount> irc will think they are flooding the channel 06:49 < snapcount> and kick them 06:50 < snapcount> I have to install the script that will cooridinate the ping 06:50 < perlDreamer> and the channel gets cleared and you can be OP 06:50 < perlDreamer> cool 06:50 < snapcount> well, when everyone is gone 06:50 < snapcount> I will leave also with the bots 06:50 < snapcount> then when I join 06:50 < snapcount> I'll have ops 06:51 < snapcount> basically I'll be creating the channel 06:51 < snapcount> if it works 06:51 < snapcount> =) 06:51 -!- chansen [n=chansen@81.225.82.48] has quit ["bbl"] 06:53 -!- WRE3 [n=WRE3@67-58-211-247.amtelecom.net] has joined #WebGUI 06:57 < perlDreamer> hmmm 06:57 < perlDreamer> $#bots == $#people 06:58 < perlDreamer> we're about 12 files away from the test run being setup 06:59 < snapcount> sweeet 06:59 < perlDreamer> one small problem, though 06:59 < perlDreamer> all mixin packages fail the POD test 06:59 < perlDreamer> even though they have POD 06:59 < perlDreamer> it's because their package namespace differs from the filename 07:00 < perlDreamer> haven't figured out a way around it yet 07:00 < snapcount> ah 07:25 < perlDreamer> sounds like you're not having much luck either 07:26 < snapcount> just about ready 07:43 < snapcount> !rp_channels 07:43 < perlDreamer> ahhh 07:43 < perlDreamer> AAAAHHHHHHHH 07:43 < snapcount> huh? 07:44 < perlDreamer> I was preparing for Armageddon 07:44 < snapcount> not quite 07:44 < perlDreamer> but nothing is happening 07:45 < snapcount> heh 07:48 < perlDreamer> ten files and counting, plus 8 mixins 07:48 < snapcount> cool 07:49 < snapcount> colin 07:49 < perlDreamer> yeah 07:49 < snapcount> cut and past like 30 lines into the channel 07:49 < perlDreamer> 30 lines, okay 07:49 < snapcount> you'll prolly get kicked 07:49 < snapcount> but come back 07:49 < perlDreamer> ok 238 - WebGUI::Session::Style 07:49 < perlDreamer> ok 239 - WebGUI::Session::Url 07:49 < perlDreamer> ok 240 - WebGUI::Session::Var 07:49 < perlDreamer> ok 241 - WebGUI::Storage 07:49 < perlDreamer> ok 242 - WebGUI::Storage::Image 07:49 -!- perlDreamer [n=colink@199.107.160.242] has quit [Excess Flood] 07:49 < snapcount> I think I loaded the wrong script 07:50 -!- perlDreamer [n=colink@199.107.160.242] has joined #webgui 07:50 < perlDreamer> yup, kicked 07:51 < snapcount> wrong script then 08:00 < snapcount> I'll continue this in the morning 08:00 < snapcount> later 08:00 -!- snapcount [n=roy@user-0c6t351.cable.mindspring.com] has quit ["www.snapcount.org"] 08:00 -!- perlDreamer [n=colink@199.107.160.242] has quit ["Download Gaim: http://gaim.sourceforge.net/"] 15:07 -!- Irssi: #webgui: Total of 7 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 7 normal] 15:08 -!- xdanger [i=xdanger@i.should.be.in.a.mentalhouse.net] has left #webgui [] --- Log closed Sun Mar 05 15:08:23 2006 --- Log opened Mon Mar 06 14:14:44 2006 14:14 -!- xdanger [i=xdanger@i.should.be.in.a.mentalhouse.net] has joined #webgui 14:14 -!- Irssi: #webgui: Total of 4 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 4 normal] 14:14 -!- Irssi: Join to #webgui was synced in 0 secs 14:14 -!- xdanger [i=xdanger@i.should.be.in.a.mentalhouse.net] has left #webgui [] --- Log closed Mon Mar 06 14:14:58 2006 --- Log opened Mon Mar 06 17:06:06 2006 17:06 -!- xdanger [i=xdanger@i.should.be.in.a.mentalhouse.net] has joined #webgui 17:06 -!- Irssi: #webgui: Total of 6 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 6 normal] 17:06 -!- Irssi: Join to #webgui was synced in 0 secs 17:06 < xdanger> nothing yet =( 17:06 < snapcount> are'nt you on the chanserv as an op? 17:08 < snapcount> you registered the channel right? 17:12 < xdanger> no i didn't 17:12 < snapcount> I thought I saw freenode op you 17:12 * snapcount shrugs 17:12 < xdanger> that was propably after a network split 17:12 < snapcount> oh 17:12 < snapcount> I tried registering the channel and someone has already 17:23 -!- crythias [n=gyoung@64.200.2.35] has joined #webgui 17:24 < crythias> ok. 17:24 * snapcount puts 17:24 < snapcount> you don't have to leave 17:24 -!- snapcount changed the topic of #WebGUI to: nevermind, we gave up 17:24 < crythias> puts, putts, pouts? 17:24 < snapcount> pouts 17:24 < crythias> stats p not working in gaim 17:24 < crythias> no /who either 17:25 < crythias> hi 17:25 < snapcount> damn idlers 17:25 < crythias> um. yeah 17:25 < snapcount> I'm going to set the bot to start kicking them 17:25 < crythias> xdanger disappeared 17:25 < snapcount> so this doesn't happen again 17:26 < crythias> chansen 17:26 < crythias> terje 17:26 < snapcount> I'm kind of grumpy 17:26 < crythias> understood 17:26 < snapcount> we lost a pretty important server last night 17:26 < snapcount> twas a late night 17:26 < crythias> oh? ick. 17:26 < snapcount> had to buy a new server 17:26 < snapcount> and 17:26 < snapcount> the one that died 17:26 -!- BearPerson [i=karsten@sourcemage/wizard/pdpc.bronze.BearPerson] has joined #webgui 17:27 < snapcount> hosted about 80 sites and our primary dns 17:27 < crythias> I've been warned that my traffic was too much on my free host. 17:27 < crythias> ack! ack! ack! 17:27 < snapcount> yeah 17:27 < snapcount> it sucked hard 17:27 < snapcount> hi bear 17:28 < snapcount> for some reason libapreq is using the wrong perl 17:28 < snapcount> I'm so close to having this fc4 wre 17:28 < crythias> h 17:29 < snapcount> i 17:29 < snapcount> j 17:29 < snapcount> k 17:29 < snapcount> l 17:29 < crythias> sanpcount: http://freenode.net/group_registration.shtml 17:29 < WRE> http://tinyurl.com/7yvxk 17:29 < crythias> I think it's time to check it out. 17:29 < xdanger> BearPerson is a freenode staffer, and could help us get ops back 17:29 < snapcount> oh 17:29 < crythias> kewl 17:29 < snapcount> thanks x 17:29 < BearPerson> I'm not sure if you'd quite qualify for primary group, let me see 17:30 < snapcount> we usually have more peeps 17:30 < BearPerson> does any of you run/own something called "webgui" ? 17:30 < snapcount> they all left b/c we're trying to cycle the channel 17:30 < snapcount> yes 17:30 < BearPerson> hmm 17:30 < snapcount> I work for Plainblack 17:30 < snapcount> the comapany that makes WebGUI 17:30 < crythias> http://www.plainblack.com/webgui 17:31 < crythias> http://www.plainblack.com/staff snapcount is roy johnson 17:31 < crythias> I'm a volunteer. 17:31 < BearPerson> hmm 17:31 * snapcount dcc's some dna to BearPerson =) 17:31 < BearPerson> okay, looking good so far then 17:32 < BearPerson> hmm 17:33 < BearPerson> yeah, http://freenode.net/group_registration.shtml it will be then 17:33 < WRE> http://tinyurl.com/7yvxk 17:33 < snapcount> I need to read through this? 17:33 < BearPerson> how high op the food chain can we get someone to fill out an approving group form for one of the people in here? 17:33 < BearPerson> s/op/up/ 17:34 < BearPerson> yeah, would help 8-) 17:34 < snapcount> ok 17:34 < crythias> Probably JT 17:34 < snapcount> I'm in charge or all our community stuff 17:34 < snapcount> but I could get my boss to do it 17:34 < snapcount> he owns the company 17:34 < BearPerson> that'll work 8-) 17:34 < snapcount> k 17:34 < snapcount> so after we fill this out 17:34 < snapcount> we'll have ops again =) 17:35 < BearPerson> if you could get him to fill out one form as "approving contact" and you fill one out as "being approved" with his name in the "approved by", we should be fine 17:35 < snapcount> ok cool 17:35 < snapcount> appreciate the help 17:40 < snapcount> he's still sleeping b/c of last nights server episode, so we'll have to wait a bit 17:40 < xdanger> what kind of episode ?-) 17:41 < snapcount> complete hardware failure 17:41 < snapcount> primary dns 17:41 < snapcount> about 80 sites 17:41 < snapcount> we got it back up pretty fast 17:41 < chansen> whatsup? 17:42 < chansen> crythias: you called? 17:42 < snapcount> christian! 17:42 < snapcount> nobody has ops 17:42 < crythias> yeah, that 17:42 < crythias> nuba 17:42 < chansen> who need ops? ;P 17:42 < snapcount> we were trying to get everyone to leave so we could cycle the channel 17:42 < snapcount> hehe 17:42 < xdanger> those are nice... especially sunday evenings =) 17:42 < snapcount> xdanger: no doubt 17:43 < snapcount> I was just about to crawl into bed 17:43 < snapcount> and my phone starts going off with messages from the server 17:43 < snapcount> 'help me, I'm dying' 17:43 < chansen> cat FreeNode provide some assistant? 17:43 < chansen> s/cat/can't/ 17:43 < snapcount> yeah 17:43 < crythias> yeah but it's paperwork :) 17:43 < snapcount> BearPerson is a fn staffer 17:44 < snapcount> we're going to register the channel 17:44 < snapcount> but we have to wait for JT to wake up 17:44 < snapcount> haha 17:45 < chansen> it's kind of rude to ask people to leave, and even worse, cursing them. 17:46 < xdanger> hey, I actually have a question about wg... Is anyone doing anything to tempalate pagination ? 17:48 < snapcount> template it how? 17:49 < snapcount> so the links are templatable you mean 17:50 < xdanger> yes... We have a "multilingual" site that has event calendars on every language and "Previous 6 months - Next 6 months" 17:50 < xdanger> It would also be nice to have CS with out >> or << marks.. 17:51 -!- pbmdawg [n=SysAdmin@CPE-65-31-211-163.kc.res.rr.com] has joined #webgui 17:51 < snapcount> hey matt 17:51 < pbmdawg> hey drivel-tongue 17:52 < xdanger> someone could bread down the pagination.nextPage variable to pagination.nextPageUrl .nextPageText or something like that 17:54 < snapcount> do you have perl skillz? 17:54 < xdanger> little hacking now and then... 17:54 < snapcount> well, if you want to implement it using 6.99 17:54 < snapcount> you can submit your patch to the dev list 17:55 < snapcount> and we could get it in 7 17:55 < snapcount> I'll answer questions and stuff 17:55 < xdanger> There was some talks about convertion pagination to utility asset ? 17:55 < snapcount> but I don't have time to do it myself 17:55 < snapcount> I never heard that discussion 17:55 < xdanger> rfe 1229466 17:56 < xdanger> snapcount: http://tinyurl.com/zw5gy 17:58 < snapcount> that looks like matt's baby 17:59 < pbmdawg> more like my tarbaby 17:59 < snapcount> pfft 17:59 < pbmdawg> oh wait, that's the calendar. 17:59 < snapcount> did you ever run this idea by JT? 18:00 < snapcount> xdanger: I would suggest posting to the dev list referencing the rfe 18:00 < snapcount> if you're willing to try and implement it 18:00 < snapcount> make sure you state the end goal 18:00 < snapcount> as JT may no like the proposed implementation 18:01 < snapcount> but he will suggest alternatives 18:01 < snapcount> if you tell him what you're trying to accomplish 18:02 < xdanger> pagination is just about the last thing in webgui that hasn't been templated =) 18:02 < snapcount> I agree 18:02 < snapcount> I think it would be cool 18:03 < snapcount> you better do it fast though... in about two months no new features are going in for quite some time 18:03 < snapcount> now is the time to do it 18:03 < pbmdawg> not quite the last thing. 18:03 < pbmdawg> the form controls are not templatable (programmatically) 18:03 < pbmdawg> nor is the edit profile screen. 18:03 < pbmdawg> nor is the admin console (enough) 18:03 < snapcount> bah 18:04 < xdanger> pbmdawg: you remember this: 18:04 < xdanger> 15:46 <@xdanger> since we're using mod_perl2 shouldn't we use something like $r->filename($storage->getPath($self->get("filename"))); return Apache2::Const::DECLINED; instead of redirect ? 18:04 < pbmdawg> yeah 18:04 < xdanger> have you given it any thougts ? 18:05 < xdanger> I just realized since storage is versioned with the changes to the asset, the files "real url" changes... 18:05 < xdanger> this could be a bad thing for linking or search engines 18:06 < xdanger> it you do that passthru apache the url would be always the same but you could still version the storage locations... 18:06 * pbmdawg is too busy to reply atm 18:10 -!- crythia1 [n=gyoung@64.200.2.35] has joined #webgui 18:10 -!- crythias [n=gyoung@64.200.2.35] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 19:32 < terje> morning all 19:33 < terje> hey snapcount - how's the FC4 binary? 19:33 < terje> I'll check site.. 19:36 < snapcount> I'm troubleshooting a problem with libapreq 19:39 < terje> ah ok.. 20:11 < crythia1> seems reasonable that all but nuba could leave and come back? 20:11 < BearPerson> the problem is timing it right 20:12 < nuba> hey 20:13 < crythia1> hey 20:13 < crythia1> got nuba. 20:13 < nuba> i can leave & join later if need 20:13 < crythia1> xdanger? 20:13 < snapcount> I emailed JT about the group reg 20:13 < crythia1> pbmdawg? 20:13 < pbmdawg> here 20:13 < crythia1> kill your bot, though, snapcount 20:13 < crythia1> chansen? 20:14 < nuba> nevetheless, this is a very lame way of handling the channel 20:14 -!- WRE [n=WRE@67-58-211-247.amtelecom.net] has quit ["snapcount"] 20:14 < crythia1> yeahbut we're fixing it. 20:14 < crythia1> long term 20:14 < nuba> yup 20:14 < crythia1> just short term is an issue. 20:14 < crythia1> by we I mean not me 20:14 < snapcount> pfft 20:14 < crythia1> heh 20:14 < snapcount> chansen 20:15 -!- crythia1 is now known as crythias 20:15 < snapcount> at least we don't have 40 people in here 20:15 < pbmdawg> follow my lead 20:15 -!- pbmdawg [n=SysAdmin@CPE-65-31-211-163.kc.res.rr.com] has left #webgui [] 20:15 < BearPerson> well 20:15 < nuba> yeah that'd be rediculous 20:15 < nuba> ridiculous* 20:15 < nuba> ok there we go 20:15 < crythias> #webgui-waitingroom 20:15 < BearPerson> if you have any short-term issues I think I can cover 20:15 -!- nuba [i=nuba@zaxxon.telerama.com] has left #webgui [] 20:16 < snapcount> so are we all leaving now? 20:16 < snapcount> is that the plan 20:16 < snapcount> lol 20:16 < crythias> only if we can catch chansen 20:16 < crythias> and terje 20:16 < crythias> and xdanger 20:16 -!- nuba [i=nuba@zaxxon.telerama.com] has joined #webgui 20:16 < snapcount> doh 20:16 < BearPerson> hmm 20:16 < snapcount> this will make a great story one day 20:17 < nuba> heh 20:17 < BearPerson> anything immediate you need channel registration/ops for? 20:17 < crythias> #webgui-waitingroom 20:17 < nuba> ok 20:17 < BearPerson> nuba, you're not identified to nickserv by the way 20:17 < BearPerson> I mean, we could just run the channel opless until we can get the group thing covered 20:18 < snapcount> BearPerson: not really... just piece of mind and that special feeling you get with an @ next to your nic 20:18 < nuba> BearPerson: just id'ed 20:18 < nuba> thx 20:18 < BearPerson> and in case anything happens where we do need staff, I'll do my best to find some with whatever powers we need 20:18 < BearPerson> http://freenode.net/channel_guidelines.shtml (second bullet) ;-) 20:19 < nuba> so, should people go to #webgui-waiting room or stay here ? 20:19 < crythias> except, we're kinda ok with those who have ops. 20:19 < crythias> but I like channel access list thing 20:19 < nuba> come on, can one of the op-less ops herd us ? ;) 20:20 < BearPerson> well, you'll get the channel registration in the long run anyway 20:21 < snapcount> wow 20:21 < snapcount> I'm not a very good channel op 20:21 < snapcount> I think I've broken just about every rule in that link 20:22 < BearPerson> hehe 20:22 < BearPerson> you can always learn :P 20:22 < BearPerson> that page is just guidelines from freenode 20:23 < BearPerson> the things we found that tend to make channels nice and productive 20:23 < crythias> I think we need to have a vi vs. emacs war, here. 20:23 < BearPerson> :) 20:23 < crythias> because we all know that notepad rocks. 20:24 < snapcount> notepad++ 20:26 < nuba> bah i guess a fckedirot vs tinymce vs htmlarea would be more related to #webgui 20:27 < snapcount> freenode seems like a socialist kinda place which is odd compared to most irc networks 20:27 < snapcount> take Efnet for example 20:27 < BearPerson> thanks :-) 20:27 < snapcount> "remember...it's just irc. we don't care" 20:27 < BearPerson> we try to not be "IRC" :) 20:27 < snapcount> i see 20:28 < snapcount> funny thing is when matt created this channel, he just randomly picked the network 20:28 < snapcount> it's nice you guys give a crap 20:28 < BearPerson> we may just be a bit complicated about all this group stuff 20:29 < BearPerson> compare http://freenode.net/policy.shtml#ontopic - we actually care what the channels on our networks are about ;-) 20:30 < snapcount> we fit #1 20:30 < snapcount> woo hoo 20:30 < snapcount> we can stay! 20:31 < BearPerson> :) 20:32 < BearPerson> freenode is all about providing a communication medium for groups that already exist outside of IRC 20:33 < BearPerson> I sometimes think of it as the friendly playground where all the children from the block can come to play vs. the ruined playground where the junkies gather and hang out 8-) 20:33 < nuba> heh 20:34 < BearPerson> we're not really about forming groups on IRC (think warez/clan/gaming channels) 20:36 < BearPerson> we're currently writing something about that on http://freenode.net/humans.shtml 20:36 < BearPerson> I guess the "meta-community" part is what I'm trying to say 20:37 < snapcount> I get it now 20:37 < snapcount> it's a cool idea 20:37 < snapcount> funny how we've just kinda been here and never bothered to read any of this stuff 20:37 < BearPerson> :) 20:38 < snapcount> I'm sure you get a lot of that 20:44 < crythias> actually, I chose it, cause it was default in gaim. 20:44 < snapcount> oh 20:44 < snapcount> my bad 20:44 < crythias> np 20:44 < snapcount> I thought it was matt 20:45 < crythias> it was a collab. Colin had issues with direct IM. probably talked with Matt about it. I got involved in an issue, and created #webgui. 20:46 < crythias> but the idea was Colin's and Matt's originally. 20:46 < BearPerson> interesting... a client where we are default ;-) 20:46 < BearPerson> we were removed from irssi's server list because they thought us not IRCish enough 20:46 < nuba> oh i tried joining #webgui on freenode a few times before it came to actually exist. saw nobody, then left... 20:47 < BearPerson> and requested to be taken off the mirc list to make less of a target for spambots 20:47 < nuba> same thing on irc.perl.org 20:47 < crythias> heh. 20:48 < crythias> well, part of #webgui's staying power has been some lurker/op holders. Some of it has just been increased (I believe) productivitiy among those who participate, and then there's just me. 20:49 -!- snapcount changed the topic of #WebGUI to: We don't need no stinkin' ops! 20:49 < crythias> productivity wrt working out bugs in the project 20:49 < snapcount> eek! 20:49 < snapcount> you said the 'b' word 20:49 < crythias> um.. undocumented features, sorry. 20:50 < snapcount> hehe 20:51 < crythias> but we do diversify somewhat. it's not all perl... 20:51 < crythias> we go offtopic some times. issat bad? 20:52 < crythias> sometimes we just need to de-stress 20:52 -!- pbmdawg [n=SysAdmin@CPE-65-31-211-163.kc.res.rr.com] has joined #webgui 20:52 < crythias> guess we gotta stop with the LICNSTAG 20:52 < pbmdawg> why is that 20:53 < crythias> Off-topic activity may result in users being barred from the network. 20:53 < crythias> *sniff* 20:53 < snapcount> OFFTOPC 20:53 < pbmdawg> zhyikes! 20:54 < crythias> http://freenode.net/policy.shtml#offtopic 20:54 < pbmdawg> that would be a good movie title. ("off topic") 20:54 < crythias> No more NICERUG 20:54 < pbmdawg> FRNCHME 20:55 < snapcount> crythias: don't make me come over there 20:55 < snapcount> did you read the whole paragraph? 20:55 < crythias> various forms of antisocial behavior 20:55 < snapcount> if we're channeling goatse images we could get banned 20:56 < pbmdawg> argh. 20:56 < pbmdawg> that means dubya is illegal too 20:56 < snapcount> hey 20:56 < snapcount> that's just the facts 20:56 < snapcount> he said 20:56 < snapcount> it 20:56 < pbmdawg> political invective 20:56 < pbmdawg> still. 20:56 < pbmdawg> pr0n is "just the facts" too 20:56 < snapcount> there is nothing derogotary 20:56 < snapcount> it's left to the user to interpret 20:57 < snapcount> (I know you're right btw) 20:57 < crythias> "I don't know much about pr0n, but I know what I like." 20:57 < snapcount> we may be too wild and unorthodoxed for freenode 20:57 * pbmdawg dances with some hax0r activity 20:59 < crythias> but hardly even know 0r 20:59 * pbmdawg install IIS 2.0 on his unfirewalled pc. 21:00 < crythias> because ? 21:00 < pbmdawg> http://freenode.net/policy.shtml#proxies. 21:01 < snapcount> well, at least you guys are reading the rules 21:01 < BearPerson> well, being a bit off-topic on channel is okay 21:02 < BearPerson> this is still your channel, meant so yau can communicate, develop social skills, and socialize :) 21:02 < crythias> with respect to freenode ops, if we've tacitly agreed to the content amongst the few of us (and it's not illegal), we'd generally be ok, right? 21:02 < snapcount> notice he mentioned *develop social skillz* 21:03 * crythias smacks snapcount with a trout. 21:03 < crythias> smells like fish... 21:03 * snapcount punches crythias in the arm, "punch buggy green no punch back!" 21:03 * pbmdawg wipes his mouth with an empty doritos bag. 21:03 < crythias> ow! 21:03 -!- perlDreamer [n=ckuskie@nat089.mxim.com] has joined #webgui 21:03 * crythias rubs his arm. 21:03 < snapcount> colin! 21:03 < crythias> I'm tellin' mom! 21:04 < pbmdawg> NILOC 21:04 < BearPerson> yeah 21:04 < pbmdawg> BearPerson = Colin ? 21:04 < BearPerson> without complaints, we don't do anything at all usually :-) 21:04 < perlDreamer> No, I'm clothed thank you 21:04 < crythias> heh 21:04 < snapcount> perlDreamer == colin 21:04 * crythias roflol 21:04 < snapcount> lol 21:05 * crythias picks up bits of dorito crumbs in his shirt. 21:05 < snapcount> sorry it took me a while to get that one 21:05 < perlDreamer> snapcount: your plan to take over the world did not come to fruition 21:05 < snapcount> no 21:05 * pbmdawg sneezes a pygmy elephant. 21:05 < crythias> gotta vacuum before I do that rolling. 21:05 * crythias rolls his own. 21:05 * pbmdawg brings his own 21:05 < crythias> ewww ... 21:06 < pbmdawg> hum. carpet carpet. 21:06 < perlDreamer> so what's the hot hacking topic of the day? 21:07 < pbmdawg> I think we need a FOSS project named Loogie so I can say I'm hacking a Loogie. 21:08 < pbmdawg> and so roy can say, "I'm compiling my Loogie" 21:08 < pbmdawg> and so colin can say, "I'm documenting my loogie" 21:09 < crythias> and gerald can say, "why can't we use a different loogie?" 21:09 < nuba> and I lurk 21:09 < crythias> a lurker in the loogie 21:09 * pbmdawg branches Loogie to a new project: Lung 21:10 < pbmdawg> forks, rather. 21:10 < crythias> fork up a loung 21:10 < crythias> lung 21:10 < pbmdawg> LUNGBOT 21:10 < crythias> TOESQSH 21:10 < pbmdawg> TOECRLR 21:10 < crythias> GUILUGY 21:11 < crythias> toejam and lungbutter.com 21:11 < pbmdawg> lunch 21:12 < crythias> lungbutter.com has been taken 21:12 < pbmdawg> LUNGCAK 21:13 -!- MrHairgrease [n=martin@x032124.its-s.tudelft.nl] has joined #webgui 21:13 < pbmdawg> EATJUNK 21:13 < crythias> hair greases, toejam, and lungbutter. 21:13 < crythias> ahh yeah. 21:13 < MrHairgrease> nop 21:13 < MrHairgrease> nop 21:13 < MrHairgrease> nop 21:13 < MrHairgrease> why? 21:13 < crythias> exactly 21:13 < BearPerson> whee 21:14 * MrHairgrease feels like misbehaving! 21:14 < MrHairgrease> Try to kick me 21:14 < MrHairgrease> =) 21:14 < BearPerson> o_O 21:14 * BearPerson quietly points to /stats p 21:14 < crythias> client doesn't like /stats p 21:15 < MrHairgrease> no such command 21:15 < BearPerson> please don't misbehave 8-) 21:15 < crythias> "That command doesn't work on this protocol" 21:15 < BearPerson> /quote stats p 21:15 < MrHairgrease> you all suck c 21:15 < MrHairgrease> oh ok 21:15 < MrHairgrease> =) 21:15 < BearPerson> hmm, gaim does not like it 21:15 < crythias> it's true 21:15 < BearPerson> (1141672523 20:15) [freenode] -!- p BearPerson (i=karsten@sourcemage/wizard/pdpc.bronze.BearPerson) 21:15 < BearPerson> (1141672523 20:15) [freenode] -!- p spb (n=spb@gentoo/developer/spb) 21:15 < BearPerson> *hint* *hint* 21:15 < BearPerson> (1141672523 20:15) [freenode] -!- p 2 staff members 21:15 < BearPerson> ;-) 21:15 < crythias> He's cool, though. 21:15 < MrHairgrease> I do not understand 21:16 < MrHairgrease> It must be monday 21:16 < pbmdawg> we've been visited by an angel 21:16 < MrHairgrease> when? 21:16 < MrHairgrease> when you were drunk this weekend? 21:16 < BearPerson> in other words, yes, you can misbehave, no, there's no channel ops here, BUT a freenode (firstlevel) staffer is :P 21:16 < pbmdawg> it's a weekend? 21:16 < MrHairgrease> ah 21:16 * MrHairgrease shuts up 21:16 < BearPerson> "can" meaning "I won't be able to stop you... for a while :P" 21:17 < crythias> but don't kick him :) 21:17 < MrHairgrease> do I hear evil laughter? 21:17 < BearPerson> :) 21:17 < MrHairgrease> you can kick me 21:17 < MrHairgrease> just don't ban 21:17 < BearPerson> how about quiet? ;-) 21:17 * MrHairgrease ..... 21:18 < BearPerson> nah, let's leave the subject :) 21:18 < MrHairgrease> ok 21:18 < BearPerson> I don't really like waving priviliges around 21:18 < MrHairgrease> so how's it going on the coding front? 21:18 * BearPerson sits back again and grabs the popcorn 21:19 < MrHairgrease> bearperson: do you also use webgui? 21:20 < crythias> he's not heard of it. he's just helping us regain channel ops 21:21 < crythias> by telling us, and by us I mean roy how to apply. 21:21 < MrHairgrease> ok 21:21 < MrHairgrease> how did we loose em anyway? 21:21 < MrHairgrease> every op logged out? 21:21 < crythias> all ops left 21:21 < crythias> yeah 21:23 < BearPerson> we do have channel registration stuff, but I guess that only got noticed after that ;-) 21:27 < crythias> sigh 21:27 < crythias> I think I gotta change hosting providers. 21:27 < MrHairgrease> why? 21:27 < crythias> my traffic went from 7mb/day to 200+mb/day 21:27 < crythias> and the free hoster says, pay up or lose connection. 21:28 < MrHairgrease> well 21:28 < MrHairgrease> it's only a 2000+ % increase 21:28 < crythias> yeah. and no idea how or why. 21:28 < MrHairgrease> so I can imagine he says that 21:28 < crythias> I did pay up. 21:28 < MrHairgrease> You dunno where the traffic comes from? 21:29 < crythias> no, and neither do they. 21:29 < MrHairgrease> but is it up or downstream? 21:29 < crythias> *shrug* it's traffic. 21:30 < crythias> but most likely from my site to someone. 21:30 < MrHairgrease> oh 21:30 < crythias> but without logs, I don't know. 21:30 < MrHairgrease> your website 21:30 < MrHairgrease> I thought you meant your work or home connection 21:30 < MrHairgrease> my mistake 21:30 < crythias> and I don't see the hits that would cause it. 21:30 < crythias> np. 21:30 < MrHairgrease> 200 mb per day is not that much 21:31 < crythias> well, no, but my free host: doteasy.com allows 1gb/month traffic. 21:31 < MrHairgrease> oh ok 21:31 < crythias> I paid $18 in an emergency for traffic. 21:31 < MrHairgrease> i see 21:31 < crythias> 10gb/month 21:31 < MrHairgrease> why don't you have logs? 21:32 < crythias> I don't host., 21:32 < crythias> brb 21:32 < MrHairgrease> ok 21:32 < crythias> I host gwy2.org, but I don't have anything but ftp access to gwy.org 21:33 < MrHairgrease> i see 21:35 < crythias> so. I'm looking at $7.95/month for gwy.org and large traffic 21:36 < crythias> which I can swing, ... I think I will go with www.bluehost.com 21:36 < MrHairgrease> ok 21:36 < MrHairgrease> I've podded the SQLForm today 21:37 < MrHairgrease> so it's one step closer to inclusion in the core 21:37 < crythias> yee haq 21:37 < MrHairgrease> somebody here used it already? 22:25 < crythias> pnut butter, jelly. 22:28 < snapcount> we need to up crythias' meds 22:30 < crythias> ah yeah 22:30 * crythias zips up in a banana costume... 22:30 * crythias gets out the maracas 22:31 * crythias looks blankly into a camera ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmWoVkhXI3o&search=peanut%20butter%20jelly 22:32 -!- snapcount [n=roy@24.241.121.70.cfl.res.rr.com] has quit ["www.snapcount.org"] 22:32 -!- snapcount [n=roy@24.241.121.70.cfl.res.rr.com] has joined #webgui 22:32 < crythias> heh 22:32 < crythias> keycapture on 22:33 < perlDreamer> calc E-ROD 22:33 < crythias> no wre 22:33 < pbmdawg> crythias: is that your kid? 22:33 < snapcount> so, /quit and /part really are different 22:33 < crythias> not at all 22:33 < crythias> I have a 2 year old. that's it. 22:33 < snapcount> I have a 4 month old 22:33 < crythias> isn't that video stupid funny? 22:34 < pbmdawg> you and your kydeeprn............. 22:34 < crythias> that's enough of that. 22:34 < crythias> thbbpt :) 22:34 < pbmdawg> alright alright 22:34 < snapcount> http://www.snapcount.org/home/photos/my-pictures/nikkis